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Speaker 1: It's Nicole Atkins on the Rock and Roll History Show.
Speaker 3: Hello, everybody, Welcome back to the Rock and Roll History
Show in Hudson River Radio. I'm Brian Horowitz. We've got
an unusual interesting topic lined up for you tonight. But
before we hop into that, as always, allow me to
introduce the Crambones, who were joining us here first and
foremost from the Richter Observatory. He figured out how many
drummers it takes to change a light bulb one two, three, four, Neil.
Speaker 9: You might want to throw in a fifth there.
Speaker 3: Just someone's got to hold the ladder.
Speaker 9: Yeah, they have a hard time with that anyway. How
you doing, everybody, and.
Speaker 3: The host of Paranormally yours she read that dog's bark
about one hundred and twenty times per day, but it's
a rough estimate. Pale nucle Is here.
Speaker 5: Hi, Brian, Yes, I want to learn how to make
your guitar sound better.
Speaker 3: Okay, stay tuned. Oh but them nice well played?
Speaker 10: Sorry, I just had to.
Speaker 3: And the host of the Silver Screen she saw a
perfectionist walk into a bar and immediately turn around and leave.
Apparently the bar wasn't set high enough. Mercedes can't just here?
Speaker 10: That was good?
Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, our officially retired teacher he thinks they should
make decaf coffee tables. John Kelly is with us, Hi, John,
Oh hey, why not?
Speaker 11: You know I in my retirement, I could just sick.
Speaker 3: You can nap whenever you want, pretty much. H At last,
ban least. The host of Shaving Cream she took a
course in speed waiting. Now she can wait an hour
in only ten minutes. Barbara Ville is here.
Speaker 12: Oh timey whimy.
Speaker 3: All right. So our topic tonight is courtesy of Mercedes,
who is going to explain and then lead us off.
So take it away.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well you surprise me on that one, all right?
How to describe it? It's songs with a count off
in the beginning or somewhere in the song, I suppose.
Speaker 3: So math we have to do math tonight? Is that
what you're Yes, we do.
Speaker 1: We got numbers for you. It's like one to the four.
Speaker 10: Right or something or something.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I hope I can get that right when it's
my turn.
Speaker 1: Bray, can you tell us why they do that?
Speaker 3: It sets it well, Neil can explain too. It sets
the tempo for the song, so everybody comes in at
the same time and everybody's playing at the same tempo.
It is what the conductor does in front of an
orchestra too, but they use gestures instead of counting out.
Speaker 9: Loud their hand movement in that case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's the hand movement.
Speaker 1: Explain why they often include it in the.
Speaker 3: Record because it sounds cool.
Speaker 1: That's what I was, That's what I figured. Thank you
very much.
Speaker 3: That's my best answer. I guess if you want to
sing along now you know when when.
Speaker 1: To start which start singing right when you're singing.
Speaker 3: In the shower, so you can't always, you know, see
what's going on, so I count.
Speaker 1: That's true. Yep, I get somebody to come in and
count for me in the shower.
Speaker 9: The trick is to get the band to be playing
the same song.
Speaker 3: Also true. That actually happened to me last week, actually
early last week. I went to an orchestra rehearsal and
there's a page turned and I had the wrong page too.
Speaker 9: I'd be lying if I said it never happened to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I was playing and then we stop and
the conductor looks at me and goes, what are you playing?
I said, apparently I have the wrong page too, But
at least you know I was playing because you could hear.
Speaker 1: It well, talking about let's go back to my shower.
Speaker 3: What you asked for?
Speaker 1: There are six of us, Yeah, talking about singing in
the shower and have somebody on there to count off
for you. That immediately reminded me of rock and.
Speaker 9: Roll school, right, I know the scene, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Joey's singing to what's her name? On the In the movie.
Speaker 9: Riff Randall played PJ Sols PJ Sos.
Speaker 1: I absolutely love her. Love that movie. And the Ramones
are very famous for their count offs.
Speaker 13: Count yeah well and those kinds of songs, you know,
they they they're they're simple but not easy, which we've
talked about before.
Speaker 3: You know, the chords are pretty straightforward, but a lot
of them are so fast that if you don't all
come in at the same time. Train Wreck and you're
off the rails.
Speaker 9: And that's why they started doing it. They could not
master the silent count.
Speaker 12: So yeah, it's like some people have to read aloud.
Speaker 9: So there they said, take it, take it D D
one to three four and boom. They all started at
the same time.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 9: Not always the same song either, but.
Speaker 3: That's okay, all right, So yeah, you're up first, take
us take us away.
Speaker 1: Oh god, So I picked my song today because it's
a live version and I was actually at the show,
and so I think that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 1: It was led Zeppelin in nineteen seventy three. Oh it
was it Madison Square Garden, Brian Love It.
Speaker 3: Were there any French Canadians there starting fights?
Speaker 1: There was no Canadians where I was.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1: So the name of the song is the Ocean. It's
a song by English rock band led Zeppelin from their
nineteen seventy three Houses as a Holy. Led Zeppelin were
an English rock band formed in London in nineteen sixty
eight and continued till nineteen eighty. The band members were
vocalist Robert Plant, guitarist Jimmy Page, Bassis, keyboard bassist keyboard
John Paul Jones and drummer John Bonham. They and you know,
if you don't know the stuff, you really yeah, it
just shouldn't.
Speaker 10: Be here, right.
Speaker 3: You have to go many many years back to episode one,
twenty seventeen. Good luck with that, but I'm.
Speaker 1: Going to go on and refresh your memory a little
bit more. They were known for their heavy, guitar driven sound,
and influences included blues and folk music. Led Zeppelin or
cited as an originator of hard rock and heavy metal.
They're among the best selling musical artists of all time.
They influenced the music industry, particularly in the development of
album oriented rock and stadium rock. We all know what
album oriented rock.
Speaker 10: Is, right.
Speaker 3: Should by now.
Speaker 1: Page. The guitar has composed most of led Zeppelin's music,
and Plant wrote most of the lyrics. Jones occasionally contributed
keyboard parts. According to Wikipedia, the half of their career
so a series of record breaking tours that earned the
group a reputation for excess and debauchery.
Speaker 9: In other words, rock and roll.
Speaker 1: Yes, led Zeppelin have sold and estimated two hundred to
three hundred million records worldwide. That doesn't sound like enough,
does it.
Speaker 9: I was going to say that sounds a little, you know,
on the shy side.
Speaker 3: I mean, is that just final? Not like CDs and
all the stuff that comes later?
Speaker 9: Is that an older.
Speaker 1: Possibly that it's just final? I don't know, question for
another time. I guess some of their biggest hits were
A Stairway to Heaven, Whole Out of Love, and Ramble
On and there are so many more. Led Zeppelin evolved
from a previous band, the Yardbirds, and were originally named
the New Yardbirds. This song is one of the few
Zeppelin songs where all four members share the writing credit.
Listen for the unusual time signature being partially in septuple meter,
with a repeated two measure phrase consisting of one bar
of four four slash four four four.
Speaker 3: Four beats per measure a quarter no gets a beat.
Speaker 1: Okay, and one bar of seven eight.
Speaker 6: Seats.
Speaker 3: I think it's seven fours. It's seven eight now I'm
gonna have to count.
Speaker 9: It's kind of like walking or running up the stairs
too fast, missing a step and kind of hitting your
knee and then getting up and walking again.
Speaker 1: Right, okay, But that doesn't sound as good as Zeppelin does.
Speaker 3: It depends because it'll make you scream like Robert Plant
depending on how you might be able to hit the notes.
Speaker 9: It's about as easy too, about as easy as playing
it like that.
Speaker 1: So of course listen for the count in in the beginning,
but a couple of other things to listen for. It
can be barely heard during due to all the guitar overdubs,
but during the last minute or so, John Paul Jones
and John Bonham sing for one of the only times
on a Zeppelin album they are harmonizing the phrase do up,
So listen for that. And also, if you listen carefully,
you can hear a phone ringing in the studio at
one minute thirty seven seconds, and again a second rang
around one minute forty one seconds. So that's your treasure hunt.
Let's hear the ocean, d.
Speaker 14: Messengers, the sunshine, laughing of the range, looking a.
Speaker 4: Look, a hurt, a sound.
Speaker 5: Fall.
Speaker 8: She who is.
Speaker 14: Singing, singing songs some of my times every day she
needs to sing them.
Speaker 15: A mountains abound your snuff the way.
Speaker 2: Sit so howsomebon hard.
Speaker 5: For you.
Speaker 4: It's a real sol.
Speaker 9: No no no no no no no no no no
no no no no no no no no no.
Speaker 15: No no no no no, no, no, no, no, sen
do the whole job can be on the old things.
Speaker 4: I'm a Sunday say. I didn't think of the whole job.
Speaker 2: I'm the old Jim Bass hello, miss.
Speaker 5: No no.
Speaker 1: To catch any of those those things, you were best
to look for.
Speaker 10: No time for it. Yeah, because I was just enjoying
the song.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We counted out the measures. Yeah, I was seventy eight.
Speaker 1: We did We did that in the beginning. You did
that in the beginning.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the countain or the introduction is we've done four
already and now we're steady, is done by John Bonham.
He's referring to the previous four recording takes, so we
can assume that the one on the record is the
fifth take of the session. The ocean is a metaphor
for the sea of heads that Robert Plant faced in
the auditoriums. According to group photographer or biographer Dave Lewis,
I didn't know that, did.
Speaker 5: You know that?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 9: No, that's that's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Actually I thought that was really cool.
Speaker 1: But a visual Yeah. In the last line, the girl
who Won My Heart refers to Robert Plant's daughter Carmen,
who was born in nineteen sixty eight, who was three
years old at the time of recording, and apparently he
did change that line for whatever whatever her age was
at the time of the concert. So a few fun
facts about the band. Zeppelin's partying is a thing of
a legend. You may have heard the story about how
they once rented six floors of the Andes West Hollywood
Hotel in LA for their entourage and friends hosting a
drug fueled orgy while drummer John Bonham wrote, a motorbike
down the hotel corridors.
Speaker 10: As one does.
Speaker 3: How do you get that up there?
Speaker 1: Elevator? Yeah, through the lobby, great elevator. I guess you
pay off the guy at the freight area. I don't
know anyway. By nineteen seventy three, Zeppelin had their own
custom plane, the Starship. It had a bar with a
keyboard organ, built in, a video library and shower room,
and cost thirty thousand dollars to I don't know if
that's per trip or per year.
Speaker 3: There's no way that's per year.
Speaker 10: Get out of it.
Speaker 1: I didn't look it up. Jimmy Page's Gibson EDS twelve
seventy five was named the coolest guitar and rock in
a twenty twelve pole Love That and the name led
Zeppelin came from a joke made by The Who's Keith Moon,
who told Jimmy Page that a new supergroup would go
down like a lead balloon. Page, according along with the
rest of the band, decided to change the spelling of
lead like the metal to lead led so it wouldn't
be mispronounced lead, And they changed balloon to Zeppelin for
a stronger, more dramatic image. And did you hear me
singing in the in the recorder?
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 16: I was like that.
Speaker 3: Ground was perfect.
Speaker 1: And I knew all the words. So thanks for listening
to my son.
Speaker 3: That is pretty cool.
Speaker 10: Good choice.
Speaker 3: Now you just have to find a photograph of you somewhere.
There has to be something of the crowds, and you
gotta remember where you were sitting and see if we
can find you as the dot.
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, yeah in the ocean.
Speaker 17: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 1: My head was part of the ocean.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 12: There you go?
Speaker 18: Cool?
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Mercedes, Barbara, you're up.
Speaker 12: Okay, Well, we're gonna do a complete turnaround from what
Zeppelin with my choice song. The song I chose is
called you Get what You Give, and It's by the
New Radicals. The New Radicals were an American pop band
centered around band members Greg Alexander on lead vocals, guitar,
and songwriting, and Danielle Breesebois on keyboard, percussion and backing vocals.
They used session and tour musicians in lieu of employing
other permanent members, and they formed in Los Angeles in
nineteen ninety seven and only released one album, and it
was called Maybe You've Been Brainwashed Too. Alexander received a
six hundred thousand dollars advance from MCA Records and the
album was released October of nineteen ninety eight. Their sound
was heavily influenced by nineteen seventies soul and rock. The
album received criticism for its themes of drug and sex references,
as well as its denouncement of society. In spite of this,
the song you Get What You Give reach number thirty
six on the Billboard Hot one hundred top the charts
in Canada and New Zealand, and reached number five in
Ireland and Scotland. So why would pause here and listen
to You Get What You Give?
Speaker 10: By the New Radicals?
Speaker 16: Wag Locast We got the dreamer's disease see edge or teams.
Speaker 14: To got to counter the these songs. The business still
safety loves, beware the challenge, fro the smash of mersades
face lest.
Speaker 15: That will not to cry.
Speaker 4: Oh, I can be a dying head.
Speaker 14: You got the music Indians Where you got the music?
Indians on the dance, the swells.
Speaker 6: Got the book through them.
Speaker 4: Don't give up, you got reason to.
Speaker 6: Guess. We only net with.
Speaker 4: I'm coming home by your time shouts, get to me.
Speaker 2: Now and we rather music come out?
Speaker 14: Where what have you doing? And stuff bad? Let's dye
by child, small.
Speaker 15: Dad, You can't.
Speaker 4: Changes bad?
Speaker 14: Just you got the music in you. Don't last God,
you got the music in you?
Speaker 4: What dances the smallest god of fucking don't get up?
You got a reason to it, can't.
Speaker 2: We only got what packing last go heal the music
in you?
Speaker 3: You forget that?
Speaker 4: Can I?
Speaker 2: You're all the get what you give.
Speaker 14: Your god get what's your kid?
Speaker 6: Just stop being a better.
Speaker 14: Heasan sansibout dying empty.
Speaker 17: Big bankers, dying by compute, and crashes down and call
him well then love and back and she went back
in Hans and cordial man the Jill Young Color Yours.
Speaker 12: So Craig Alexander disbanded the group in nineteen ninety nine,
prior to the release of the band's second single, because
he grew tired of touring and interviews. He began to
focus on writing and producing songs for other artists. However,
he continued to partner with Brezeois for songwriting, and they
were non needed for an Academy Award for Best Original
Song for their song Lost Stars from the film Begin Again.
The New Radicals have received numerous offers to reha Nite,
but Alexander repeatedly declines, but they did get together one
time to perform at the twenty twenty one presidential inauguration.
I wanted to talk a bit about the band member,
Danielle Brisblaugh. Anyone recognized that, yes, okay, that's the only one.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank.
Speaker 3: You, because I didn't know that. Okay, yes, I didn't
know this.
Speaker 12: I've always liked the song. I picked the song. Then
all of a sudden, I'm doing the research and I'm
reading who the main band members are, and I immediately
recognize the name. Danielle Brisbaugh starred in later seasons of
All in the family and in the spinoff Archie Bunker's
Place playing the daughter of Edith's step cousin, the little girl.
Speaker 3: The little girl it Stephanie was that her character? Yeah,
the black hair girl. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I did not know.
Speaker 10: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 12: That kind of blew me away too, Like all this time,
all these years, I've liked the song and never knew that.
Speaker 3: Well, it's good she has a job. You hear about
the child star that kind of you know, yeah, it
doesn't go well.
Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, I'm glad it worked out for her.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 12: So I wanted to also talk about the lyrics at
the end of the song, as they focused on social
issues and celebrity bashing with lyrics like health insurance, rip off, lying,
and you're all fakes run to your mansions. Alexander explained
that these lyrics were purposely included to see if the
media would focus on the real issues or the celebrity
ridicule and personally tell me if you agree or you
don't agree. The lyrics and the cadence at the end
of the song to me are reminiscent of I Do
the Rock by Tim Curry. I got silence, Oh maybe not,
maybe not, I guess I'm the only one that thinks
that that's you look pensive, Mercedes.
Speaker 1: I'd have to hear it.
Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, no, it totally reminded me of that the whole,
the whole cadence of the whole of that part of
the song.
Speaker 10: But that's it.
Speaker 12: That's how I wanted to end it with that comparison.
Speaker 3: Very cool, all right, Mercedes had something.
Speaker 1: It reminds me a little of that song. I got
the music in me. Yeah, was that that wasn't Kiki
d was it?
Speaker 12: I don't know that wasn't that covered by? Like they're
all different artists.
Speaker 10: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I don't think so.
Speaker 12: But anyway, I feel like I saw a Share do
it on the Sonny and Share show.
Speaker 1: I feel well that that doesn't surprise me.
Speaker 12: Yeah, I feel like I feel like I saw a
Tini's Herder maybe cover it once.
Speaker 1: Really I could be wrong, hmm, geek it is Kiki
d Oh shut yeah? Yeah, good cool?
Speaker 3: All right, thank you, Barbara. Quick break and we'll be
back with porn right after this. Hudson Riverradio dot Com.
Your dad likes us.
Speaker 1: This concludes the first part of this cassette.
Speaker 3: Please turn the cassette over and begin again on side too.
This is Hudson River Radio dot Com and counting one
two third Crambone John. That's you, hey, everybody.
Speaker 11: Well, you know the tonight's theme. It's an interesting one.
And given the thought we're talking about countdowns or count
ups as it were, what better theme to talk about
than taxes. Let's all get out our calculators and our
checkbooks and figure this out. My selection tonight was Taxman
Uh from the Beatles I believe it was nineteen sixty six,
written by George Harrison, that critiques the high levels of
taxation imposed by the United Kingdom government of the nineteen
sixties that were basically pissed off about the amount of
money they had to pay the UK government, which at
the time was about ninety five percent of their income.
Speaker 3: Misleading, a little bit misleading because it was a marginal
tax rate. Still, so it's ninety five percent over the
millions they were making. It wasn't still they weren't losing
ninety five percent of their income.
Speaker 11: Well, they were going bankrupt for that, you know.
Speaker 3: Well they were going bankrupt from mismanagement too, because that's
a whole nother thing.
Speaker 11: The bottom line is they were going bankrupt and they
were paying huge amount of money in taxes. So George
Harrison decided to write a song about it so we
could make more money and pay more taxes. So without
further ado, Brian, let's just go right into tax Man,
and well before we go, I will say the opening
for the song, sets the tempo, the one, two, three,
four of the count up. Then he goes into the
whole text thing. So, Brian, let's let's hear what they
have to say.
Speaker 2: One let me tell you how it will be. There's
one for nineteen for me.
Speaker 4: Goes, I'm the tax man.
Speaker 6: Yeah, the tax man.
Speaker 19: Five percent of bit too small, be thankful, I don't
take it.
Speaker 2: Goes, I'm the tax man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the tax man.
Speaker 2: Give me a driver, John, tax the street. If you
try to send to.
Speaker 4: Tax yours, if you get to call.
Speaker 2: The tax le me if you take a tax, your.
Speaker 19: Tax the tax, Yeah, the tax don't ask me what
I wanted. If you don't want to pay some.
Speaker 6: Goes u the tax man. Yea on the tax man,
My those who died many and tax tax taes.
Speaker 20: Angel Okay.
Speaker 11: Tax Man by the Beadle, nineteen sixty six, written by
George Harrison, Essentially, he was upset with Harold Wilson, who
had introduced the uh he was the Prime minister and
leader of the Labor government at the time, had introduced
a ninety five percent super tax, and they were frustrated
with the amount of money that they were paying out
given how successful they were. What's interesting about the song
putting inside the whole.
Speaker 3: Issue of because we all love paying our taxes, right, Yeah,
not really, but uh.
Speaker 11: It was one of the first times that the Beatles
introduced the ability, their ability or their talent to combine
their their music with the social topics of the day
and to make it into a hit music, a hit
you know, a hit song, hit music, and this particular
song is iconic in that regard as well. So uh,
he would they were also upset. Now a couple of
interesting points about the song. You heard Harold Wilson, the
Prime minister at the time leader of the Labor government.
He was also upset with the leader of the Conservative Party,
Edward Heath, for making them the first living people. So
he made them the first living people to be mentioned
in a Beatles song. So I always wonder what how
did they feel about that? I mean, it's to be
to be recognized by the Beatles at the prime of
their career.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going to guess they weren't fans, and probably they.
Speaker 11: Were mocking they were being the song. Yeah, would have
been love to have been a fly on the wall
in that.
Speaker 3: So that was tax mant off fill their tea.
Speaker 11: Yes, started off with that one, two, three, four, setting
the tone and then we go right into the numbers here.
So I hope you all enjoyed your you know, walk
down memory lane with the Beatles.
Speaker 12: Tax Man George is my favorite.
Speaker 10: Yes, spring goes my favorite.
Speaker 3: George's recognition came a little bit too late, but he
finally got it because for a long time, I don't
know if it still is, but Here Comes the Sun
was the top streaming Beatles song for a long time.
Speaker 11: Well, it's so yeah, the song actually created It would
be interesting if this song was if we had today's
technology then in terms of how the kinds of discussions
that were going on with respect to tax policy, wealth distribution,
government policy, and all of these hot controversial topics, which
which was we're raging at the time. The Beatles were
fortunate enough that they could speak out openly about it.
The average guy could not, So I think a lot
of people really enjoyed enjoyed it, and I think made
probably made the song.
Speaker 3: Even more popular.
Speaker 11: It would have been interesting that with today's technology, the
debates which could have started with the release of this song.
Speaker 3: Put him in jail. Lock him up?
Speaker 9: All right? Thanks job.
Speaker 11: So that was tax Man.
Speaker 3: Hope you all enjoyed it, yep, thank you? All right, Gail,
what do you have for us?
Speaker 10: Okay? Well, I thought that no one else would know
this song but me.
Speaker 5: However, I found out that Barbara has already played this
song on her podcast called Shaving Cream, which I highly recommend.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 5: Many many years ago, I was driving down the road
on my way to work, listening to the radio in
the car, as I always do, and I heard this
song that was to me hilarious because it was this
guy practically yelling that he can only count to four,
and I thought, well, this was amusing. It was on
like a heavy metal station, and I just thought it
was brilliant because I have a twisted sense of humor.
So then we come up with this topic of countdown
or count up, and I'm like, I wonder if I
can find that song. Had I only heard it once
in my life, and I heard it a really really
really long time ago, so I did find it. And
the band is called Psycho Stick and they are an
American comic metalcore band from Tempe, Arizona, and they're known
for their comical image and use of humor in their
songs and lyrics. Their style is referred to by themselves
and some online album review sites as humor core, which
kind of like makes sense to date, Well, this was
an old reference, so they've probably done more albums since
what I read, but at that point they had released
five albums nationally. Their first album was We Couldn't Think
Of a Title, that came out in two thousand and three.
Their second album, Sandwich, was released in two thousand and nine,
and the song I chose I Can Only Count to
four comes from their third album, which is titled Space
Vampires Versus Zombie Dinosaurs in three D.
Speaker 10: He just doesn't get much better than.
Speaker 5: That right off the tongue, Yeah, and I was released
August sixteenth, two thy eleven. The members of Psycho Stick
are Alex Schmellis, Alex Schmellis Dontre on drums, Robert rob
Cerzy lead vocals, Joshua the jay k Key guitars and vocals,
and Maddy J. Pool Moose is his nickname. I don't understand,
and I'm not even sure how to pronounce it's his
last name because it's spelled r z E m y K,
and he's on bass and vocals. And I have a
couple other little tidbits, but let's listen to this very amusing,
wonderful song.
Speaker 6: I can only count four.
Speaker 2: I can only counter four.
Speaker 6: I can only counter four. I can only counter wa two.
Speaker 4: It counts, so.
Speaker 6: You can't count?
Speaker 2: Can you count that one?
Speaker 7: I can't council one two, I can count two, three,
I can counter three four, I can't got a one?
Speaker 21: What comes after one?
Speaker 13: Two?
Speaker 2: What comes after two?
Speaker 4: Dollar?
Speaker 8: Three?
Speaker 2: What jumes after three?
Speaker 7: I can only council, I can only council four.
Speaker 6: I can only counsel for.
Speaker 4: I can only counsel four.
Speaker 2: I can only count the four. I can only count a.
Speaker 6: For god.
Speaker 21: One two nd county. I'm gonna gonna count, gonna count
there one.
Speaker 2: I can counsel one or two. I can count two, three,
I can count a three.
Speaker 22: I can't count a bar?
Speaker 2: What comes after one?
Speaker 9: Two?
Speaker 7: What comes after tree? What comes after frame, I can
only council four. I can only count four. I can
only counsel four. I can only counsel for. I can't
only count to four.
Speaker 6: I can only count four. Normal moll easing you never
made two is no.
Speaker 2: School at macation.
Speaker 6: There's your mind now the number in the least.
Speaker 16: The brandy hid.
Speaker 9: I can only count four.
Speaker 2: I can only count a fort if. I can only
count the ball.
Speaker 8: One.
Speaker 21: You can counsel one, two, you can count the two, three,
you can counsel three.
Speaker 2: You can't count no more?
Speaker 15: What comes after one?
Speaker 6: Two?
Speaker 21: What comes after two?
Speaker 9: Three?
Speaker 2: What comes after three?
Speaker 6: They can only counter part?
Speaker 2: We can only on the floor.
Speaker 7: Count for counting, only.
Speaker 4: Count the burn.
Speaker 5: I think that's one of the best songs I've ever
heard of my life. You cannot possibly be depressed while
you're listening to that song, because it's hilarious.
Speaker 10: Something I did not know is that it's actually.
Speaker 5: A parody of let the Bodies Hit the Floor by
Drowning Pool. And I've never heard that song, but Bodies
hit the Floor kind of makes it sound like something
out of Walking Dead. But it's like I think it
was for one of the like Rambo movies or something
thing next.
Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, but.
Speaker 5: It's been covered by, among other artists, the Muppets on
Sesame Street. Yes, for obvious reasons.
Speaker 6: And and that.
Speaker 3: Now I have to look at that's got to be
on YouTube.
Speaker 23: You know.
Speaker 10: You know I refer to that.
Speaker 9: I refer to that type of singing as cookie monster singing.
Speaker 18: That isn't that what they call scream something scream a yeah,
something like that.
Speaker 9: I call it cookie monster. That's great, that's a good thing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but Neil, you had you had a point while
we were talking while the song was on.
Speaker 9: Well, I I think it's funny because, in my, you know,
not so humble opinion, a lot of metal music, heavy
metal music is so serious and so you know, there's
no sense of humor, you know, pretentious that that that
that's a good word to put in there, and yeah,
it's and to turn it around and make it funny
is beautiful. It's like it turns the tables on that
type of music. And you know, like I find a
lot of the metal is a very humorless you know,
it's very old, is so important and self important. And
to turn it around and say, you know, I can't count,
I can only count the four it's it's brilliant. That's
so funny.
Speaker 1: But that's why they came out with spinal Tap.
Speaker 9: It could have been an outtake of spinal Tap. Yes, exactly,
thank you.
Speaker 10: Yes, So I hope you guys enjoyed that. I absolutely
absolutely adore it. That's one of my favorites.
Speaker 12: Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I cannot. I can't wait to see the Street one.
Speaker 10: It's awesome. I will love it, trust me.
Speaker 3: Right, all right, thank you, Gail. We're going to take
another real quick break and we have two more to go,
so stick around. Let'son Riverradio dot Com.
Speaker 2: Hudson River Radio dot Com.
Speaker 3: All right, Neil, we're up to you.
Speaker 9: Well, we started the show at the top they're talking
about the Ramones and how they are, you know, famous
for their countofs like that. I think that the count
Offs were just as iconic as their leather jackets and sunglasses.
I think, you know, when you think of the Ramones,
you think of a count Off. And they are, of
course my favorite band in the world. I've featured them
here on the Rock and Roll History Show a number
of times, so I decided maybe I wouldn't do that
this time around. And because I would spare you, but yeah,
I was like as soon as as soon as the
topic was mentioned, I went ramones, I'll go somewhere different,
and yeah, my song today is not so much a
count off but like a countdown and with my own like,
how should I say difficulty with numbers. I'm terrible at math,
I guess is what I'm trying to say. And I
even have probably a bit of dyscalculia, so doing it
backwards would be right up my alley. The song I
picked is called five four three two one and it's
by the group Manfred Mann now Manfred Man was an
English based rock band who were prominent in the nineteen
sixties in the swinging London scene and in the British Invasion,
and they frequently had hits on the UK Singles Chart.
Now the band was named after their keyboard player, Manfred Man.
They formed in nineteen sixty two, and they went through
a few personnel changes at the beginning before settling on
the line up of Manford Man drummer Mike Hugg singer
Paul Jones, Mike Vickerson on guitar and Dave Richmond on bass.
Now interesting side note here. The band would later feature
two other famous names on bass. Two other famous bass players,
one being the legendary Jack Bruce, best known, of course
for his time with Kream along with Eric Clapton and
Ginger Baker. The other being Klaus Vorman, who played in
John Lennon's Plastic Ono band, and he's probably even more
famous for creating the cover artwork for the Beatles groundbreaking
Revolver LP in nineteen sixty six. And John you knew
that because that's where Taxman came from. Right right, yes,
Manfred Man's breakthrough hit came In nineteen sixty four, the
group was asked to write a theme song for a
new weekly pop music show called Ready Steady Go, and
Man Mike hug and Paul Jones came up with five
four three two one. The show, Ready Steady Go was
along the lines of American bandstand here in the US,
and it featured the audience dancing as well as interacting
with the musical artists, and it was a little more
informal and youth oriented than its BBC rival or counterpart,
Top of the Pops. Ready Steady Go aired every Friday
evening from August nineteen sixty three until December of nineteen
sixty six, and they would begin with the line the
weekend starts here, followed by the song five four three
two one. Now. This weekly TV exposure helped the song
reach number five on the UK Singles charts, and in
an interview, Manfred Mann said that he imagined ready, Steady
Go as being like a rocket, so they wrote five
four three two one as a countdown to launch it.
Speaker 6: Thoma wrote the.
Speaker 21: Six down the Valley on the horses under one, but
wasn't Amalle Brandon ba three.
Speaker 6: Two one h h. It was the Man Friends.
Speaker 2: By both three two one, by three two one. The
Georgians waited at the.
Speaker 6: Game for weeks by all three two one in.
Speaker 2: A ward and lost to the Sea of this League
by three to one.
Speaker 6: Who let him know?
Speaker 2: Who wasn't the bricks by three one h h.
Speaker 10: It was a man Friend.
Speaker 6: By three two one.
Speaker 8: Five both three two one, by three to one, five
three to one, five three two one.
Speaker 2: It was Mad Friends.
Speaker 9: A jumping little number there. If I do say so myself,
I agree, I like it.
Speaker 3: And it had the harmonica for Gail.
Speaker 9: I thought of that too.
Speaker 10: The shrieky kinds that special favorite.
Speaker 3: That's it when you're starting to drift off and you
need to pick me up.
Speaker 9: That's what you hit going.
Speaker 10: I'd rather just have coffee, thank you very much.
Speaker 9: You can have both well. Later in that year, nineteen
sixty four, the band Man for Man would hit solid
gold with a hit number one in the UK and
the US with their cover of the Exciers hit do
Wah Diddy Diddy. There she goes just walking down the street.
You know what I'm talking. They had two more number
one UK singles, Pretty Flamingo in nineteen sixty six and
the Mighty Quinn in nineteen sixty eight and interest song.
Interesting sorry, but interesting that both of these songs were
also covers, So you know, cover bands take note.
Speaker 10: Didn't Rod Stewart covert Fretty?
Speaker 12: Oh yeah, he did see that song? I love not
the Quinn song?
Speaker 3: Yuck.
Speaker 9: I kind of like that one myself.
Speaker 1: Yucks review.
Speaker 9: Your opinion is duly noted John and rejected by nineteen
sixty nine. By nineteen sixty nine, frustrated with their image
as a singles band and the failure of their last
two albums, the group decided to break up. Now Manfred
Man would go on to form Manfred Band's Earth Band
in the early nineteen seventies and have several hits covering
Bruce Springsteen songs as well, most notably Lin Died by
the Light in nineteen seventy seven.
Speaker 1: And deth Like a Deuce.
Speaker 9: Yes, that's it, Yes, loose like a deuce.
Speaker 1: Not not the other word.
Speaker 9: No, I think that's what everyone not.
Speaker 10: The German not the German word for shower.
Speaker 9: Deuce like two anyway. After going behind on a hiatus
in the late eighties and early nineties, the earth Band
continues as of last year twenty twenty four to perform
and tour. So there you have five four three two
one nice catchy. Yeah. I like that.
Speaker 3: I could see why it was a good theme, you know,
because even if you it's one of those songs where
you could take a clip and you got you got it,
you got the idea. It was like TikTok before TikTok. Nice.
All right, one more to go now, Neil counts it down.
I'm going to count up, so stay with me here.
Back in nineteen fifty seven. Gloria Maria Mili Gross Fajardo
Garcia was born in Havana, Cuba. Around nineteen fifty nine,
her family fled the Cuban Revolution and settled in Miami.
Her mother had earned a PhD in Cuba, but her
records were destroyed when they left for the US, so
she earned her teaching degree credentials in the US again
and taught in the Dade County public school system. In
nineteen sixty one, her father participated in the failed Bay
of Pigs invasion of Cuba. He was captured and held
in Cuba for two years before being sent back to
the US, where he promptly joined the army and was
sent to Vietnam. He came back from Vietnam with serious
health issues from being exposed to agent Orange, so his
wife and his daughter, Gloria, wound up having to take
care of him for a couple of years. Now, Gloria
became a naturalized citizen in nineteen seventy four. At seventeen,
She was an honor student in high school and then
attended the University of Miami, graduating in nineteen seventy nine
with a degree in psychology and French. While she was
in college, she also worked as a translator at Miami
International Airport because she was fluent in English, Spanish, and French.
Now she was singing in church in nineteen seventy five.
How many times have we heard the church story when
she met another Cuban exile named Emilio Estefan Gomez. Emilia
was and is a musician and had recently formed a
professional band called the Miami Latin Boys. The band was
booked and was performing at a wedding where the guests
happened to include Gloria and Gloria's cousin, Mercedes, A different Mercedes,
not our Mercedes. Unless there's something else that we don't know. Okay,
you were busy at the Zeppelin concert? I was yep.
So Gloria and Mercedes got up and did a few
songs with the band, unplanned, impromptu, and the band was
so impressed that they all for both of them a
gig with the band. So Gloria was in college, so
she took the gig with the stipulation that she could
only work on the weekends so she could continue her education.
The band agreed, and then they changed the band name
to Miami Sound Machine, which may ring a bell. Gloria
started dating Emilio. They got married two years later, nineteen
seventy seven, and she was and is now known as
Gloria Estefant. The band continued to add musicians and changed personnel,
including the departure of cousin Mercedes, but they kept putting
out new material almost constantly. Gloria was painfully shy, one
of those people that's at home on stage, but face
to face is like really uncomfortable. So she had to
double down. Now that she was the only one out front,
she didn't have her cousin with her. Their popularity grew
in Latin America, and in nineteen eighty five they put
out the hit single Conga that cracked the top ten
here in the USA. I think everybody probably knows that one,
even though you may not know it's ror, but everybody
knows that song. That year, they also appeared on The
Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. They appeared on American Bandstand
other network talk shows. They were on MTV a lot
doing interviews and having their videos played. And now they
were mainstream and they made it big. By nineteen eighty seven,
the only original member was guitarist Kiki Garcia, and the
band was renamed Gloria Estefan and Miami Sound Machine. They
released the album Let It Loose that year, and it
wound up having five hit singles. Those of us of
a certain age we'll definitely remember. Neil will probably not
because the eighties were kind of a blip, so uh huh, Thelip,
I thought it blip, so I think most of us
would remember the songs. The Rhythm is Gonna get You
anything for you bet you say that can't stay away
from you? And the one We're Gonna hear one two three. Now,
if you pay attention, this song actually goes to eleven.
Like another thing, another thing that in rock history that
you may or may not recall.
Speaker 10: Start one five.
Speaker 3: It starts one, two, three, four, and it goes up
from there, but it ends on eleven, So pay attention
for that, all right. A year later, Kik had quit
the band, and he told Rolling Stone in an interview,
there is no Miami sound machine. There is Gloria and
Emilio telling a bunch of hired musicians what to do.
I kind of get that. Emelio defended the move, noting that, well,
she's the singer, she's out front, and people should know
her name, so I kind of get both sides of
the story. You know, Kiki was an original member when
it was Miami Latin Boys and now it's something totally different.
But you're also a hired musician. That's your job to
get songs and making the money, So I get both.
I don't know, pick aside if you must, I guess.
In nineteen ninety, her tour bus was hit by a
tractor trailer in Pennsylvania during a snowstorm. She suffered spinal
fractures that required implanting titanium rods along her vertebrae, and
she went through a long and painful recovery, but she
recovered and she has not stopped since. Amelia would go
on to be a wildly successful producer. He had major
influence with the popularity of Latin music in the nineteen nineties,
which I can definitely attest to because that's when I
was still DJing weddings and other events and all that,
and Latin music was very popular. This is when Shakira
made it big. J Lo, John Scata, Mark Anthony Ricky Martin,
and Amelio Estefan had a lot to do with the
success of that. They both continued to put out new material,
including a jukebox musical about their careers called On Your Feet,
which came out in twenty fifteen. I have not seen it.
They own owned several restaurants, they own two hotels because
one is apparently not enough, and they bought a minor
steak in the Miami Dolphins. Their estimated net worth now
is between five hundred and seven hundred million dollars.
Speaker 9: Wow, so.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you got any extra send it
this way? What else can I say?
Speaker 1: That guy couldn't stick there with the band, and that
guy said nope, I'm out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, so something tells me there's some sour grapes going on.
Speaker 3: Oh, there's sour grapes that if you leave it to
the estifants, they probably start a vineyard and make it
wine from the way they seem to run businesses. So
good for them. Yeah, but yeah, I get it, man,
I get being a little bitter and feeling like you're
cast aside. And you know, when you're one of the
original guys, you want to have some ownership in the project,
and when it's kind of taken away from you.
Speaker 9: I'm guessing there was a little more behind the scenes
that nobody's talking. Yeah, no, no, just saying, you know, yeah,
I'm sure he's doing all right, but yep, not that
many meals.
Speaker 3: I would agree with you know what. We've heard it
a thousand times. There's always three sides to the story,
and the truth is in the middle, you know.
Speaker 9: So who knows.
Speaker 3: But as we listen to the song one, two three,
think about it. It hit number three in nineteen eighty seven,
and yeah it goes to eleven. So give a listening
count alone.
Speaker 22: They tell me you show it, but I won't.
Speaker 6: You just say don't with me?
Speaker 22: You know it's not just fun and day to so
much passion side?
Speaker 4: Did you need a bare.
Speaker 2: To want to drink buck?
Speaker 24: Come on, be taken, not be back, sing Saint eleven.
Speaker 25: I'm just gonna keep from counting to come out of
your shell. Boy, you know we all. I can be blood.
Speaker 23: You're afree of evening, but I am never giving not
on your love, no matter what is it.
Speaker 6: I will see.
Speaker 22: Your barn away she stands warm you bare me bread
and ball my love.
Speaker 24: Time wanted to drink bocme on me be say you
love me? Buks slime like ten eleven counters going a
game on your do mine.
Speaker 4: There's a mad boy.
Speaker 22: I will see you your mon away.
Speaker 2: The chance for ball you want me jack my p.
Speaker 20: To drink back on Me and say you love me,
Bank sixty seven, nine eleven Counts Gone and hime on
the Compaine, what you drinking for?
Speaker 3: I don't know if spinal Tap gets royalties for the
eleven thing, the writing credit, I don't know how that works. Yeah,
or the count on Sesame Street. He may get a cut.
I'm not sure, but I'm a fan.
Speaker 20: I'd go.
Speaker 3: I still go see her now. I haven't seen the musical.
I don't know if i'd want to say. I'm not
a fan of like jukebox musicals where you like, you know,
you're cram and songs in to tell the story kind
of thing, but i'd go see her. I'd go see
the band.
Speaker 5: I used to like musicals when I was young. Now
it's just like, okay, so things are happening, things are happening.
All of a sudden, somebody bursts into song.
Speaker 3: It's like it depends, it depends on it on the
on theic. But you know, like years ago, I was
in my twenties, I saw a Smokey Joe's Cafe and
I don't remember any of it other than hating it
and thinking it was so stupid.
Speaker 1: And I just I saw eight misbehave in Fats Waller musical.
Speaker 10: Oh that was probably good.
Speaker 1: So good it was I ended up by in the final.
Speaker 3: But then I have to admit we did see Neil Diamonds.
What's the name of it? A beautiful I forgot what
the name of it is, and that was excellent. I
have to admit that was excellent. So all right, I
guess I'm breaking my own rules there. What can I
say before we wrap up? Neil, you are participating in
a charity event coming up, So why don't we give
that a little mention?
Speaker 9: Oh? Great, Yeah, if anybody happens to be in the
Rockland County area, NIAC part pularly on December fourteenth, Sunday,
the I think the twenty ninth annual Blankfest is taking place. Now,
what that is Instead of a cash donation or you know,
to pay to get in, like a cover charge, what
they ask is that you bring a blanket, either you know,
new or used, as long as it's clean any condition. Yeah, say,
as long as it's you know, cleaned up. And after
they collect all the blankets on beginning on Christmas Eve,
they take them all down into New York City and
distribute them to homeless people right on the street. It's
TRUC directly, directly. Yeah, there's no no, no middleman, no nothing,
just they put them all in vans and cars and
fan out mostly Lower Manhattan and give them to anybody
who seems to need one. And you know, I've been
involved with many of them over the you know these
twenty nine, not all of them. But I will be
there this year. I can't tell you what time. The
event runs from like noon to midnight, I believe when
I'll be performing, if you want to call it that,
probably later in the evening than earlier. But I'd say
go there anytime because there every band, all the performers
are top notch. So you know, it is great entertainment
and it's for a great cause. So that's Blankfest December
fourteenth at the Hudson House in Nayak, New York.
Speaker 3: Excellent. Yeah, so we'll have more details and kind of
a better idea when you're going to be playing next week.
Speaker 9: So I should know more hopefully yes, coming up next week.
Speaker 3: Awesome, Thank you? Cool? All right, Crambones, any final thoughts
before we wrap it up? Pull the plug. I think
this was a good one. That was interesting. It was
a good fanth review. You know, next time we'll do algebra.
We'll see if we can add an X into the equation.
Speaker 2: Bongs with algebra.
Speaker 5: Algebra, I don't think that's a thing, but believe it
or not, I have used algebra in daily life at work.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it comes into play person that I've met.
Speaker 8: That that.
Speaker 9: All right?
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