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time favorite people in the world. He is the former

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And if you love history, he's the guy. His name

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before we even hi, Dean, how are you hey? How

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Speaker 6: Thanks for welcoming me on, And there's always a great introduction.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm always glad that you can appear, Dean. Before

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for the audience that I need to do Charles Wrangell

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passed away. Charles Wrangel, Democrat, a Democrat that I very often,

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very often disagreed with on some policy matters. There were

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a few policy things that Charlie Wrangele used to talk

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about back when he was a member of Congress. He

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served goodness. I think he served twenty fourth three. He

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served twenty three terms in Congress, which you know, Yetta,

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that's a long time. Became the first African American to

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head up the Ways and Means Committee, which used to

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mean something back when committee chairs had real power in Congress.

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Represented Harlem, part of the New York the Gang of Four,

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the Big Four, Basil Pattison, Charlie Wrango, Percy Sutton, David

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Charlie Wrangle was. Charlie Wrangle was a man who served

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his country and heroically as well. In the Korean War,

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he won the Purple Heart and the Soul Star for bravery.

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I mean, this guy led his troops out of a

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situation with an unexpected attack from North Korea that just

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really could have killed them all. He was wounded in

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that process. He's a high school dropout who later went

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back after serving in the military and applied himself became

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not just a college college graduate, but then went on

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to get his law degree. And at a time this

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was a difficult time in America when Charlie Wrangell rose

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to power. Wasn't the most difficult time in America, but

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it certainly was. We were still dealing with the Jim

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Crow Democrat apartheid system in America that Democrats set up.

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about Charlie Wrangele. I don't want to spend the show

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doing it. Perhaps I'll have more time to talk about

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him Saturday. I disagreed with him on so many things,

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fondness that also recognized his service to this country in

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the military and his passion. Of course, he ran into

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some ethics problems with the Democrats later in life, which

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is one of the reasons why he decided not to

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seek reelection in twenty seventeen. But I don't even want

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to focus on that. At the time, when he was

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being censured, he said that his legacy's not going to

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be or his story's not going to be defined by that,

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but by the story of his life, and he led

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an amazing life, and I felt a sense of loss today.

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who passed away at age ninety four, who did a

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those in New York who knew him. And I think

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that Charlie Wrangle, I think that it would be fair

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to say that he had a great life, Dean, would you.

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in The New York Sun about the example between John

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and here's why. And that person leaves there feeling like

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a million bucks instead of getting booed by a crowd

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like in that John Kerry count Hall. And then people

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identify with that little guy. And I think I have

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he used to come by Fox News Channel. Charlie Wrangle

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and Brian from the old Rush TV show once was

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saying to him, Oh, can I can I get your car?

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he said, wow, you drove yourself and he said, yay.

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can drive cars, I could go to the supermarket. Just

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with that thing not getting pupped up, didn't demand a

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car just yeah, I can drive and do my own things.

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as I said of William McKinley, had his ears so

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close to the ground that he had grasshoppers in it.

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and then they would they would go right to you,

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was a dedicated Democrat, but that didn't mean that he

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had to be a nasty, hateful person, and that he

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could be somebody where you would see him. And we've

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met a million people over the courses of our career,

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not to name droppers say things, but somebody who had

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real gravitas, and you'd say, yeah, I'd like to I'd

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and as you said, great service to the city of

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was never just a stepping stone to something else. And

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or was his military service you think of being surrounded

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and came home and earned the earned the Purple Heart

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a moment that that was really the stuff of movies.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he had. It was remarkable how he led his

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men out of harm's way being surrounded in North Korea.

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It was studying. And what a great thing to talk

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about on this Memorial Day. You have a column here today.

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and if you want to do that, if we wanted

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to bring people up to speak, because there are people

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no idea why we even celebrate right Memorial Day. I

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don't think any of those people are in this audience,

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but you have a column today. First of all, Dean, seriously,

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you're really Dean, really Dean.

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Speaker 6: He'st from New Jersey. I'm from New Jersey. There's a

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each other. And hey, when you go see it, I'm

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to see it. I'm not going to

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see m I five. I'll wait for it on TV.

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It delivers the movie magic Hollywood's been missing. That's Dean.

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Carryanis uh on Tom Cruise's new movie and The Final

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Mission Impossible. Apparently Dean thinks it's a great movie that

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Speaker 6: Enjoyed the heck out of it. Exciting and it was fun,

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and it was It's nice to see the US military

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think that your audience would like that part of it.

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the evil guy, and I thought that's some birds expectations

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and yeah, it's it's silly and it's implausible, as I

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says I do the audience thanks to the audience. This

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asked him to comment on the tariffs. He said, I

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want to keep the focus on the movie. Who does

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their politics at the moment. He does those little thank

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yous before the movie, thanking the audience for coming, thanking

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Speaker 8: I read an article. I don't know if mister k

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saw that. He apparently lied to a rival studio. When

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and that scared out their studios and they made them

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and told people to try to keep them working. And

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when COVID hit they were shooting in Italy, he rented

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a cruise ship so that all of the old cast

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just be thrown out on the street because they of course,

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everything shot down overnight for COVID. And so I think

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because at first I was a little confused, to be

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quite frank with you, I was like, what, why'd her?

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James Godlan Snurly, Jan Carryannis, historian from a web producer

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Speaker 5: We will never forget the brave. Today we honor all heroes.

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James Golding is thirty, Dean Cary andis is here? Dean?

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Why did you okay from Memorial Day eighteen seventy five?

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it and more definitely come back. But tell us why

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you decided that this was the approach that you wanted

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Speaker 6: Well, I wanted to write something that was uplifting and

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that connected us, because, as you were saying before, a

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from the Civil War, and Dean went back and looked

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in history. What were people talking about on Memorial Day

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as America approached its one hundredth birthday. Here we are

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Speaker 5: We will never forget the Brave. Today we honor all

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heroes with me. Dean carrianis historyauthor dot com, a New

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York Sun columnist. All right, Dean, Today's by the way

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quick reference. Lady Benedict texted me. She wants to know

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is this the final mission for Mission Impossible or the

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final final mission?

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I don't, I don't. I don't want to give any spoils. Well,

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let's put it this way. I think if they want

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to do another one, they can.

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Speaker 5: Do another one.

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Speaker 6: And I think that they probably will know that Tom

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Cruise started. I'm going to mix it in with the Beatles. There,

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what did he do today?

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Speaker 5: He started that franchise.

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Speaker 6: It was it wasn't quite three years ago today, but

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the Civil War, you know, you said, so you wrote

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something in your column, Dean that kind of blew my

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mind and I had never even thought about it. You

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mentioned that it the death hole in the Civil War.

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died in the Civil War. That's about two percent of

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the population. Now, if we had a war and we

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put it on in today's numbers, what two percent of

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the American population would be, that would be equal to

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six point eight million people dying.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, the population of Massachusetts. So everyone in that poppy.

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on Memorial Day? As we've prepared to celebrate the hundredth

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anniversary of this country was.

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about midway point and reconstruction. So something that I always

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keep at the forefront of my mind is that for

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Ken Burns to tell that beautiful story that everybody likes,

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cut out the fact that that beautiful picture of Gettysburg

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and shaking hands of old veterans across the hedge was

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done by selling out the freedmen and leaving the formerly

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enslaved people in the Southern States in many cases completely disenfranchised.

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out of those stories. So I wanted to look at

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eighteen seventy five, what is our thinking. We're still electing

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civil war generals, all these civil war republicans as president

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and looking to them. Ulysses Grant has made his war

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against the kukuks Klan, the militant wing of the Democratic

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white supremacy over those same freedmen. But this is such

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a high watermark for that dream of equality. In eighteen

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Speaker 5: Go to the South.

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Speaker 6: They reconstruct those Southern states and their governments. We have

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six black Republicans also serving in the House of Representatives.

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of the Ways and Means Committee. This back then, they

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probably thought this is going to be the norm, and

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of course it ends up not being the norm. There

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ends up being a long period of time where there

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aren't any more black representatives in Congress and so. But

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been so brutal, the South had been so soundly defeated,

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that you had people saying who had been on the

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defeated side, who'd been generals. I quote one of them here,

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General Clement and Slim Evans. You can you can hear him, right,

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I was. I was thinking of my head hearing it

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in the fog worn leghorn voice. Try not to say

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it like that, General Evans, U and the New York

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embodying the true reconstruction spirit. And he said, let us

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do nothing to keep alive the passions of war. To

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study its lessons is prudence, to profit by its teaching

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his wisdom. But to stir up the own animosities is madness.

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and we dismissed our resentment. And I compared that to today,

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and I said, we're so many people want to hold

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on to resentment, whoever they are. I'm not speaking of

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any one group. It's so easy for all of us

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to hold on to resentment. But they had paid that

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massive price that you just described. They'd seen farms destroyed,

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people had lost their sons, entirely people. This is not

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six hundred and twenty thousand figure is on the low end, probably,

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that lost limbs. This was such a brutal war that

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people had just had enough of it. This was something

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William to come to. Sherman said, the Great Union General

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the South has chosen war. Well, let's give it to

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them until they're sick of it. And that's indeed what

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they did. And by eighteen seventy five, ten years after

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the surrender at Appromatus Courthouse, that's what people are thinking of, thinking,

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you know, let's never have this happen again. Let's go

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back to settling things that are in the using the

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tool the Constitution gives us, as I guess what I write,

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and so they avoid that, whereas today people talk about

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another civil war and you're met with nods, you know,

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these knowing nods that if fatalism is somehow enlightened, as

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if this nihilistic view that oh, sure of course people

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are just going to start shooting each other. We just

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accepted nothing.

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Speaker 5: We can do.

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Speaker 6: Well, if you live through that civil war these people

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did in eighteen seventy five, they wanted none of it.

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They wanted to move on. They accepted Lincoln's vision, even

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though he passed away Grant, of course, enforced it at

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the point of a bayonet, at the point of a gun,

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which is what it also required for us to do,

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not sify Germany, for us to get rid of the

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war lost in Imperial Japan, very similar to what Israel

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will have to do if they don't want to end

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up having to do to deal with Hamas again in

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another twenty years. And that was the idea of reconstruction.

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the one United States flag, not one side carrying a

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different flag. It was the Confederate flag force that would

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have been. So that to me was an amazing time

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to check in on them where they were saying, let's

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do better, let's never again for all this we hear

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about the South shall rise again, and we I don't

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know if people still hear that at all today, but

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occasionally you'd hear someone someone say that the North and

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South wanted to find ways to avoid that ever happening again,

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because they the nation just went crazy and to war

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against itself and had this horrible bloodlust. And so I

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thought that looking ahead to our two hundred and fifty,

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if we could draw some inspiration from that and set

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our goal also to create a more perfect, more just.

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Speaker 5: Union, well that is quite the inspirational. And that I would

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urge people to look for your column, jan Where can

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they find your column number one?

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Speaker 6: They can go see me at history Dean. I won't

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ask anybody to learn to spell Carrie Annis. But also

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I put it up on substack. This is my first

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substack post Historydean dot substack dot com. Even though I

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think substacks are blogs for people who are too pretentious

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to say they have blogs. I decided to put it

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up there because it was something I went back and

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forth with a little bit trying to figure out what

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to do with it. And I said, I really just

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want to get it out there because it was very

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personal to me, and that substack seemed like a good

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place for it. But and you were kind enough to

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tweet it out, So thank you for doing that. And

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you can see a picture there by the way of

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those those six African Americans who served in Congress at

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that period, and think a little bit about what might

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have been if we if we've been able to keep

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our foot on the on the gas and keep our

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Speaker 5: If it had, if Lincoln's vision for a reconciliated country

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without malice had been followed through America, would be quite

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different than it is today. There's no question about it.

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Speaker 2: Dean.

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Speaker 5: I got to thank you again and thank you for

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always being here for us on these very important days

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in American history. I cannot tell you how much I

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appreciate that. Again, folks, you can find his website historyauthor

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dot com, Dean carrianas History Dean and Dean. We'll look

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forward to we need to do figure out something special

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for the two hundred and fifty Dean.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that would be great.

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Speaker 5: We should definitely do that, Okay.

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Speaker 6: Lets yeah, thank you connection.

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Speaker 5: Thank you so much, Jane. We appreciate it. Folks. We

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are going to end today, thank you. We're going to

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end today with Pete hag Seth. Now, Donald Trump made

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great speech. He released a statement, but I thought Pete

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hag Seth's speech today as the Tomb of the Unknown

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Sol was incredible. We want to leave enough time so

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you can hear it. So coming up Secretary of Defense,

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Pete Hegseeth. His speech today just simply incredible. Coming back,

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do not go away.

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Speaker 4: To those who fought and gave their lives for this country.

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Speaker 5: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: The Rush Hour with James Golden on the Red Apple

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Podcast Network. The Rush Hour with James Golden entertaining and

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informative on the Red Apple Podcast Network.

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Speaker 5: We are forever grateful who served. James Golden sternly. Time

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is running out. I want to get to this speech

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today by Defense Secretary Pete heigsth Folks, you'll understand why

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I thought this. If you haven't heard it, why I

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thought you should.

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Speaker 10: President Trump, Vice President Vance, Chairman Kin, Gold Star, Families, ladies,

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and gentlemen, thank you for joining us today to remember

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our fallen warriors. We gather here to honor our very

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best gone in their youth. To properly do so, we

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understand who they are and what they fought for. It

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is our simple duty to them. You know, throughout time,

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civilizations have honored the powerful, the well connected, and the

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well born. Emperors and kings have built magnificent shrines to

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their own royal greatness. Yet in America, with our great

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experien in self government, it is fitting that the most

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honored and closely guarded tomb in the land is that

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of an anonymous soldier of an unknown rank.

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Speaker 2: When the first unknown.

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Speaker 10: Soldier was selected for burial in nineteen twenty one, he

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laid in state at the Capitol Rotunda. Throngs of Americans

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paid their respects when the tomb was dedicated on November eleventh,

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Veterans Day. The unknown received the Medal of honor. It's

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a uniquely American tradition that we honor anonymous sacrifice above

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worldly greatness. While we don't know the Unknown's identity, race, or.

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Speaker 2: Creed, we know his story. It's the story of every soldier,

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every warrior. It's a simple story as old as war.

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Speaker 10: A young man with hopes and dreams and loves who's

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called by his God country leaves behind his hometown, his parents,

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his siblings, his sweetheart, all that he knows to go

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fight a war that he may or may not understand.

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He's called to go through helen back, to sleep in

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a trench, to eat out of a tin cup, or

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on the hood of a hum v to pray as

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bullets and bombs thunder around him, to fear for the

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bullet or the mortar, or the ied or the RPG

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with his name on it. He does it willingly and

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stoically because he loves his country, his brothers in arms,

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and his family. This is the story of the Unknown,

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the story of the fallen soldier who we have gathered

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today to honor. It is the story of the American warrior.

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He answered the call, fought and died for this republic.

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Speaker 2: The ultimate sacrifice of a free people. You see, the.

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Speaker 10: American soldier fights not because he hates what's in front

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of him, but because he loves what's behind him.

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Speaker 2: We honor his.

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Speaker 10: Self for sacrifice, his courage, his duty, and his love,

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as Jesus taught his disciples, Greater love hath no man

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than this, that a man lay down his life for

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his friends. This love is a gift given freely. And

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yet this gift comes with responsibility to those living.

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Speaker 2: We owe a duty to those who have fallen in war.

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Speaker 10: They have paid a debt we can never repay, and

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for that we owe gratitude and remembrance.

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Speaker 2: We owe at least this.

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Speaker 10: To remember their sacrifice and honor their memory year after year,

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salute after salute, ceremony after ceremony, parade after parade, pray

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after prayer, that by our remembrance we keep lit the

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eternal flame of their heroic deeds in defense of our nation.

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And we owe eternal vigilance, eternal vigilance the price of freedom.

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These men died for something, the hope of a free, secure.

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Speaker 2: And peaceful republic.

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Speaker 10: That is our inheritance, and we must steward it and

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hand it down to our kids.

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Speaker 2: And our grandkids. We must live worthy of it.

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Speaker 10: These men dreamt of a future in which their children

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would not fear of attack. No enemy could threaten their peace,

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no war could require them to take up arms. The

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duty we owe these men is peace, which only can

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be achieved through strength. And because we strive for peace,

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we must prepare for war. That's the job of the

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Chairman and I and so many others at the Defense

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Department each and every day. We will never on behalf

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of those who've given so much.

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Speaker 2: We will never be complacent. We owe these men nothing.

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Speaker 10: Less our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. So

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on this Memorial Day, in honor of the unknown soldiers

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and the known, let us rededicate ourselves to God and country,

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to our great Republic two hundred and forty nine years on.

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We stand on the shoulders of great men, and on

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the shoulders of those great men in those graves.

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Speaker 2: And may we live worthy of it.

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Speaker 10: Thank you, God bless our warriors, and may God bless

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our fallen and Amen, Amen.

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Speaker 5: And amen. And on this Memorial day, what I would

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just like to do add to that is say God

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bless all of the men and women who have sacrificed

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their lives so that we can be the beneficiaries of

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a freedom that changed the world and the direction of

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the world, and that we can call ourselves proudly American citizens.

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Because if you go back, this did not come easy.

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It does not come easy as God intended. May God

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bless and protect each and every single one of you,

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your family, your loved ones. Love and gratitude my friends

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always for your being here with me and allowing me

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to be with you. We're here, God willing for the

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Tuesday edition. Until then, my friends, I bid you, I

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do Happy Memorial Day. Bye.

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