Speaker 1: I don't believe you want to leave like this whispering
Speaker 1: I love you when I'll always be here to us.
Speaker 2: No problemma to getti move to You can plend on
Speaker 2: your dilemma. I gotta take it from your man. That's
Speaker 2: my mission. If its love has really got the hand
Speaker 2: of the competition. You're the type of girl, the kind of.
Speaker 1: Hollywood is he good, greatest of all time. Number One
Speaker 1: priority self preservation that applies to the majority different situations.
Speaker 2: The hands got something that you can't quite handle.
Speaker 1: Give it to your man, rough and anywhere that handcuffs.
Speaker 1: I'm well from the black while we stand up. Candem, candem,
Speaker 1: condemn candem. But let it breathe for a second. Hold on,
Speaker 1: let that let that sit there for a second. Crazy
Speaker 1: hell COOLJ is back on the cruise, cruising, cruising? What's up?
Speaker 2: Man, what's up?
Speaker 1: Confused with that intro? Yeah, yeah it was with that night.
Speaker 1: I was right, It's crazy. Was hot, Yeah, that was hot.
Speaker 1: That was hot. We got to get you that. Different chambers,
Speaker 1: different chambers, different change, different memories, different moments and time
Speaker 1: and time errors. Eras for sure, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like the King of Eras, dog you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: young legend, living legend al.
Speaker 2: I'm thankful, man, I'm thankful. Yeah, yeah, I like to.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to show people that we could keep going,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like hip hop, You know,
Speaker 1: dreams don't have deadlines. Baby, At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it's about pressing play. That's a fact that I'm everything
Speaker 1: all bets off. Press play. Let me press play on
Speaker 1: that joy press play high feel right then?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, when you describe it like making films making
Speaker 1: albums right throughout the years, right, you have Steven Spielberg,
Speaker 1: Martin Scors, these great filmmakers, so many more, right, and
Speaker 1: then we have the old Cool Jays and so forth
Speaker 1: right making great albums, it's the same vibe because, yeah,
Speaker 1: because you want to just do things that I just
Speaker 1: wanted to show people that was possible. I think that
Speaker 1: hip hop had gotten to a place where we kind
Speaker 1: of felt like you just have to trying to dismiss
Speaker 1: anything that came before and time moves, and I just
Speaker 1: don't agree with that concept because it's not about it's
Speaker 1: about old and new, not old and young and so
Speaker 1: and the new means the new idea it's so I
Speaker 1: think people the reason why people get caught up in
Speaker 1: the idea sometimes of rors and being able to continue
Speaker 1: is because of where the new ideas come from. So
Speaker 1: it's about like if you have a fresh idea, if
Speaker 1: you have a new approach, if you have a new
Speaker 1: take on how to make the music. Like when we were
Speaker 1: talking about the song, the sound of the beat sound different,
Speaker 1: Like if you have something new, you could keep going.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's about innovation, the force.
Speaker 1: The force is out on all streaming platforms. Just crazy man,
Speaker 1: you and Q tip Yeah, thankful man, god bless yeah man,
Speaker 1: than's you crazy man? Just everything just sounds so well
Speaker 1: put together right and of course you got legends on
Speaker 1: the project. NOAs with a song with nas right, praise him?
Speaker 1: Is that like to get him on the song? Is
Speaker 1: that a text a call emails not a DM well
Speaker 1: with nos no no no.
Speaker 2: I text him. I text him and told him about
Speaker 2: the song.
Speaker 1: And you know, I wanted to, you know cause I'm
Speaker 1: like dabbling in supreme mathematics from when I was a
Speaker 1: kid on that on that particular song.
Speaker 2: So he came in.
Speaker 1: I wanted him to paint a picture you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying to kind of take people transport him to
Speaker 1: that time, because the things that I'm saying on that record,
Speaker 1: particularly praise them, is very subtle. So if you don't
Speaker 1: know the supreme mathematics, some of the things I'm saying
Speaker 1: could go over your head. But if you if you
Speaker 1: understand it, then it's like it's it's it's like coded.
Speaker 2: So it's it's fun, you know in that regard.
Speaker 1: So like with him, I just hit him like yo,
Speaker 1: we never did this and then and it was just
Speaker 1: was time, you know what I'm saying. And I wanted
Speaker 1: to rhyme and make songs with the guys that were
Speaker 1: the most talented, but also people that fit the song
Speaker 1: that I was working on.
Speaker 2: So like with Nas, that beat be just fit me
Speaker 2: and Nas, and like the one with.
Speaker 1: Em it fit me and m and like all of
Speaker 1: the song like sweety it fit me and Sweetie, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So that was the vibe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Man on murder Gram, you Eminem did y'all thing I
Speaker 1: mentioned this off the air, L was not about to
Speaker 1: let Eminem get away with nothing on that song. Let
Speaker 1: me tell you some man, Eminem is my man. He's
Speaker 1: my friend, you know what I'm saying. And I look
Speaker 1: at him as like, you know, like he's like having
Speaker 1: a super talented younger brother who who's really dedicated. He's
Speaker 1: like a scientist when it comes to em seeing and
Speaker 1: I love that because I'm that way too. And so
Speaker 1: it was just the perfect opportunity for us to rock together.
Speaker 1: We had talked about it for many years and we had,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of flirted with the idea, but we
Speaker 1: never you know, got around to it. And it was like,
Speaker 1: this made sense to me. Yeah, we got you know,
Speaker 1: because I don't like the thing. My thing is like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna put different people on a song together,
Speaker 1: it's not enough to just the idea of it. Can't
Speaker 1: just be good. The execution got to be great. So
Speaker 1: me and m you know, making a sting, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got a sting, baby, And that's what we did. So, Yo,
Speaker 1: we had a ball with that one. You know, you're
Speaker 1: his favorite rapper, it's not one of his favorite rappers.
Speaker 1: And he loves the fact that he gets to call
Speaker 1: you Todd like that's I love.
Speaker 2: That he's welcome to call me Todd, no problem.
Speaker 1: I've heard him in interviews like, yeah, he's my friend
Speaker 1: Todd like yeah, no doubt. Right now, that's my friend Marshall,
Speaker 1: a good friend of mine, my very talented friend, Marshal.
Speaker 1: You know that's that's a TV show, tod At Marshall. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it really is like an album title, right man, you
Speaker 1: know Garcia, you know Jackie that's is actually a super fan.
Speaker 1: We let him in the building, man, I I submitted.
Speaker 1: Uh that's.
Speaker 2: Why.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Look he's stopped many other artists, but not your here man,
Speaker 1: welcome back.
Speaker 2: To the show.
Speaker 1: We are Thank you, Thank you man, thank you for sure.
Speaker 1: The Force is out platforms. Can you talk to us
Speaker 1: about the title and the artwork of the project. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the Force, you know, it's about that that in
Speaker 1: the voice society you that like that encourages you to
Speaker 1: inspire you to go after your dreams. Right, Like we're
Speaker 1: all on this kind of big adventure, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like everybody's the hero of their own life movie.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. And where you go with
Speaker 2: that is up to you. Me.
Speaker 1: You know, I choose to like follow my bliss and
Speaker 1: follow that voice inside of me, so I make the music,
Speaker 1: and I make hip hop because I love it, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, no other reason. It really is
Speaker 1: about loving it, just the same way I loved it
Speaker 1: when I first started. I did it because I loved it.
Speaker 1: So the lover is first. That's so that's what the
Speaker 1: Force is about. The forces about tapping into what's inside
Speaker 1: of you and getting that out and really you.
Speaker 2: Know, taking that to the next level. If that makes sense,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: In terms of the artwork, Q Tip actually Drew did
Speaker 1: the artwork on the cover, you know.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying. Like he had showed me a sketch.
Speaker 1: He was messing around with sketches and all that, and
Speaker 1: he sent the sketch to me. I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: this is it. I said, this is crazy. We need
Speaker 1: to use this for the album cover. So I combine
Speaker 1: that with you know, with the shoot and and you know,
Speaker 1: the Force cover was born.
Speaker 2: So I really, you know, worked on this.
Speaker 1: It was very collaborative in terms of you know, the
Speaker 1: people and the you know, just the approach.
Speaker 2: You know. I didn't want to like, I just didn't
Speaker 2: want to do nothing boring man.
Speaker 1: You know, saying like my dudes, like it's nothing worse
Speaker 1: than you know, your heroes like half stepping, you know,
Speaker 1: late in the game.
Speaker 2: You know it's like, don't do that, bro, Like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, album just to put out. I don't slip
Speaker 1: on a banana peal, you know, slip on a banana
Speaker 1: appeal with your album, because that's what you know people
Speaker 1: be expecting.
Speaker 2: Here we go, I'm done, Here we go, Here we go,
Speaker 2: Little Ellie, I know what he goes.
Speaker 1: I know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 2: I know you're gonna try to sound like somebody.
Speaker 1: That's very true, very true, and you had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun and you got to work.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta listen. Man, if you really love something,
Speaker 1: you gotta put your heart and soul in tweet. You
Speaker 1: gotta be passionate about the songs you rapping like the
Speaker 1: rands do. I'm like, y'all, you know, actually.
Speaker 2: I'm written like I love it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I know
Speaker 1: what you're saying, Like I started out, You're doing this
Speaker 1: because I love it. So as long as you maintained
Speaker 1: that love for it and that passion for it, you're
Speaker 1: gonna go hard. Man. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 1: you gotta want it, Like I was telling somebody earlier,
Speaker 1: like if they shoved your head in a barrel of water,
Speaker 1: you gotta want it like you would want air.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You gotta be hungry for that.
Speaker 1: You know, there's an artist that that that are hip hop. Right,
Speaker 1: you gave us hip hop, You gave you continue its
Speaker 1: a lot of ways, in a lot in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways, no matter what you did too, whether it
Speaker 1: was on the screen or coming out them speakers. Yeah, yeah, nah,
Speaker 1: it's look, man, I'm just happy that I've been able
Speaker 1: to make, you know, a contribution, you know, to the world,
Speaker 1: and have the impact that I've had. You know, you
Speaker 1: just never know, man, it just kind of worked out
Speaker 1: that way. I when I fell in love with the game,
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, you know, I was gonna grab
Speaker 1: so much of it, you know, and influence so much
Speaker 1: of it. I just did it from pure passion, like
Speaker 1: a little kid staring at the vinyl, going in a circle,
Speaker 1: imagining myself inside the record, like wondering what it was
Speaker 1: like when I heard these voices coming out of the song.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Because it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: as a little kid. I just wanted to feel that
Speaker 1: empowered feeling, feel powerful. You know sometimes you know you
Speaker 1: ca catch a whooping from your step pops or something,
Speaker 1: and you know you go to your room and you like, yo.
Speaker 1: You know that that music it.
Speaker 2: Serves a purpose. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It like made me feel hold again. So I was like, yo, Yo,
Speaker 1: Now I'm gonna whoop some I'm gonna whoop some.
Speaker 2: Man some cakes. You know I'm gonna tap you know
Speaker 2: what I mean?
Speaker 1: Something, what do you think you're stronger for us?
Speaker 2: Love or hate? Love?
Speaker 1: Yeah, because the love can stop hate, but hate can't
Speaker 1: stop love. Say that one more time. I said love
Speaker 1: is stronger because love can stop hate, but hay can't
Speaker 1: stop love. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So it's
Speaker 1: like I give you an example. It's like if you're
Speaker 1: in a dark room and I like a match, that
Speaker 1: one little that one little light, that one little source
Speaker 1: of light illuminates the whole room. Darkness doesn't come from anywhere,
Speaker 1: It just is what it is. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, now, now mind you, Now here's the
Speaker 1: flip side of what you're saying.
Speaker 2: Now, if you ask me.
Speaker 1: Can can can traumatic experiences or can you hate some
Speaker 1: hating somebody fuel you to go do things? That's a
Speaker 1: different conversation. Yes, it can, absolutely the motive. But that's
Speaker 1: but you gotta remember what you're doing, though, is you're
Speaker 1: you're taking that heat, that hate and you're transforming it
Speaker 1: into your love for something else.
Speaker 2: So you're still flipping the script. Yep. Ultimately, even though
Speaker 2: the hate of.
Speaker 1: You know, this person beat me or this person did
Speaker 1: this to me, and that may be the thing that
Speaker 1: moves you to do a certain thing, my big brother,
Speaker 1: you know, you know, whatever it is, it's still that
Speaker 1: you're gonna channel that. You're still transmuting that into something
Speaker 1: else to take your life to the next level. You
Speaker 1: feel men with podcast? Yeah, real qui we need.
Speaker 2: It's called the Force.
Speaker 4: You've shown you tip a lot of love since you've
Speaker 4: been in the interview, the artwork and the production. Do
Speaker 4: you recall the first time you ever heard a tripe
Speaker 4: called quest and what did you think of them?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean just hearing you know, I left my
Speaker 1: wile in El Segundo and then you know, seeing them
Speaker 1: do a video in my neighborhood. On top of the cleaners,
Speaker 1: like you know, you know when they did that video
Speaker 1: on top of the cleaners back in the days, like
Speaker 1: you know, that was like incredible to me. It was
Speaker 1: amazing to me. It was like dudes from my hood,
Speaker 1: like you know, made it. I couldn't have been happier.
Speaker 1: Like it was just an incredible feeling because I know,
Speaker 1: like my neighborhood is filled with so many different artists
Speaker 1: that have come from there, so from even from back
Speaker 1: in the days, from like run.
Speaker 2: DMC, and then you got ll Cool J.
Speaker 1: And then you got a tribe called Quest, and then
Speaker 1: you got you know, in other parts of town, Mob Deep,
Speaker 1: and then you got Fifties and then you got job Rule,
Speaker 1: and then you have like all of these various artists
Speaker 1: all come from around there. You had James Brown who
Speaker 1: lived around there, Count Basie who lived around there, and
Speaker 1: you know Louis Armstrong who lived around there. And I
Speaker 1: mean it's just a very it's a lot. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of music and a lot of vibes. So see
Speaker 1: a tribe. They were unbelievable, man, And then just what
Speaker 1: they did, how they did it, it was crazy crazy,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, super dope it
Speaker 1: was a different sound, super dope and sophisticated.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I was, you know, very sophisticated. You know me, I've
Speaker 1: always been like a little bit of a savage man,
Speaker 1: like a lot of savage baby, a lot of savageness
Speaker 1: going on. Yeah. They was very sophisticated, a little bit
Speaker 1: a little bit more well read, so to speak. You
Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, savage man, no shirt man,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Let's get to it.
Speaker 1: Let's get to it.
Speaker 3: You know a lot of artists come in here and
Speaker 3: they're very like flashy with Julie. I want to point
Speaker 3: out because I haven't been able to keep my eyes
Speaker 3: off it.
Speaker 2: Your friend.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, so so you were fifty alt lt
Speaker 1: A cool t. This is now you know what little kids,
Speaker 1: little kids give I did like some in stores right
Speaker 1: sign in vinyl and like there'll be like ten year
Speaker 1: olds and eight year olds that may come with their
Speaker 1: parents and stuff, and they made these for me. And
Speaker 1: the reason why I put it on is because it
Speaker 1: just shows you how your music can keep, you know,
Speaker 1: impacting people. Like for a lot there's little kids right
Speaker 1: now that are ten, twelve years old and murder Graham
Speaker 1: is the first time they heard lf.
Speaker 2: They don't even know about the love songs that people know.
Speaker 1: They don't know the other old the harder songs like
Speaker 1: el Bomb, they don't know Rock.
Speaker 2: The Bells, they don't know none of that.
Speaker 1: Like murder Graham is the first time they ever heard
Speaker 1: of ll cooj So, but then you got people who
Speaker 1: love you better was the first time they heard me
Speaker 1: and you got people doing it was. But then you
Speaker 1: got people back in the days going back to Cali
Speaker 1: and all these other Mama said nak So it's like
Speaker 1: it's like to me, you know, for them little kids
Speaker 1: to take the time and to do that, you know,
Speaker 1: the force and to make me these little bracelest. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just like a reminder that I'm touching all
Speaker 1: kinds of audiences, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like that's that's trippy to me.
Speaker 1: You know, that's kind of like that's you know, it's trippy,
Speaker 1: like you know, but but it's also.
Speaker 2: Like it's it's how it should be. Na man.
Speaker 1: You know, my son he's seven, he's a fan of
Speaker 1: the Beastie Boys because one of their songs was in Trolls.
Speaker 2: You see so here you go.
Speaker 1: He loves brass monkey see, there you go, there you go,
Speaker 1: there you go.
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 2: That's my point.
Speaker 1: So you know, for me, man like with this album,
Speaker 1: it's like it's just an opportunity to get new fans
Speaker 1: and to give the day one fans something that they
Speaker 1: haven't had in a long time, and to have fun
Speaker 1: doing it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yes, So that being said, performing at the VMAs for
Speaker 3: like forty years of him, like, how does that even
Speaker 3: like because you said, you know, you touched so many
Speaker 3: different audiences, how do you even pick what am I
Speaker 3: gonna do?
Speaker 1: You know, when when ll Coolja is performing, you're gonna
Speaker 1: get ll Coolja. So you're gonna get, you know, stuff
Speaker 1: that if you're depending on your age and when you
Speaker 1: when you got into LL or whether even then if
Speaker 1: even if you never did, and this is your first time,
Speaker 1: you're gonna hear a cross section of things. You're gonna
Speaker 1: hear things from the early days, and you're gonna hear
Speaker 1: things brand new. I'm like, you know, it's a it's
Speaker 1: kind of a weird kind of thing for me because
Speaker 1: I have like so many different entry points, right like,
Speaker 1: you got people that know me for hosting Grammys and
Speaker 1: people that know me for doing television shows, and you know,
Speaker 1: so it's it is.
Speaker 2: It does get weird, but you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: get awkward. I love that, Sam Hannah. It does get awkward.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I just I just make the
Speaker 1: music and just pick what makes sense to me, and
Speaker 1: I go by my gut because the one thing that's
Speaker 1: important with all of this is taste and instincts, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you know, it's just like
Speaker 1: anything else.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's like, it's just like boxing, right, it's science, of course,
Speaker 1: but then this instinct and you know it's that combination, right, sir, Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: Spirit of Syrus with Snoop. How did that come together?
Speaker 2: So Spirit of Cyrus.
Speaker 1: I got a call from a high level person in
Speaker 1: law enforcement and they was telling me, yo, you need
Speaker 1: to stay in the house.
Speaker 2: I'm like, why do I need to stay in the house.
Speaker 1: They was like, well, there's a man hunt out for
Speaker 1: this guy named Christopher Donna, and you look exactly like him.
Speaker 1: And then I went on the internet and I'm looking
Speaker 1: at this guy and it's like, I see his face
Speaker 1: and he looks just like me coming out my note.
Speaker 1: He's bald, he looks just like me, and nay. On
Speaker 1: top of that, On top of that, people are like
Speaker 1: making jokes and memes, so they're putting us together on
Speaker 1: the joint. So I'm like, yo, yo, you guys are
Speaker 1: real funny. You trying to get me smashed. So and
Speaker 1: then the talk came like you should play him in
Speaker 1: the movie. Well, there was that kind of talk, and
Speaker 1: so I went down the rabbit hole. And when I
Speaker 1: went down the rabbit hole, I read his manifesto. I
Speaker 1: read different things that he had said, and I saw
Speaker 1: the things that he was talking about in terms of
Speaker 1: the issues he was having with the department, and the
Speaker 1: black verse is Blue and his like everything he was
Speaker 1: going through, it looked it was like a metaphor or
Speaker 1: an analogy for what was going on in America. And
Speaker 1: so I just decided to write the song. I was
Speaker 1: inspired to write the song from a true place, and
Speaker 1: it just tell it how it went. And then when
Speaker 1: we when we had the sonics and everything, it was
Speaker 1: just like when I came up with that, don't try
Speaker 1: to apprehend me a black and Blue, I said, Yo,
Speaker 1: Snooper sound crazy, saying that. I was like, Yo, Snooper,
Speaker 1: sound perfect on that, because you know, think about murder
Speaker 1: was a case back in the day Snoop's early music.
Speaker 1: It's like them dangerous, rough, raw sounding records, and that's
Speaker 1: how spirited Sirrus sounded to me.
Speaker 2: So I caught Snoop up. He came down to the studio.
Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: I said, Yo, let's do it. He came down, We
Speaker 2: did it, and there it is.
Speaker 1: You smoke with Snooper. No, no, I ain't trying to
Speaker 1: Smoke't gonna have me in an emergency room.
Speaker 2: Mess around with Snooper. You know what I'm saying, mess
Speaker 2: srout with Snoopy. Snoop. Man, I ain't.
Speaker 1: Built for that, baby, No, I ain't ready for that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't ready for that. I ain't ready for that. Man.
Speaker 1: Now for the Spirit of Cyrus. It did come off
Speaker 1: like a script.
Speaker 2: Nah.
Speaker 1: It felt like oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Visually yeah,
Speaker 1: because I just because I can see it in my mind.
Speaker 1: I can see it in my mind. This is my manifesto,
Speaker 1: the reason why I did it. The presser called me evil,
Speaker 1: label me a menace. Don't let the lives deceive you.
Speaker 1: They pushed me to my limit. Racisms of disease. It's
Speaker 1: only right. I kill it, black blood you quit that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it just it just felt like you know, and as
Speaker 1: you go down that that rabbit hole and you One
Speaker 1: thing I did with this record that was important to
Speaker 1: me is no censorship and other And when I say censorship,
Speaker 1: what I mean is censoring my inspiration. I'm not told
Speaker 1: my cousin every you know people, whatever it is, what
Speaker 1: it is, I'm talking about censoring the inspiration. So I
Speaker 1: was inspired. No, you know, whatever I'm inspired to write
Speaker 1: is what I'm gonna write, and let the chips forward
Speaker 1: they may.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to be.
Speaker 1: Divisive or volatile or provocative. I'm just gonna let the
Speaker 1: inspiration take me where it takes me. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, like a hot date be you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, You can let you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: take me. It takes me right to this back seat.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about the VA performance as well, the
Speaker 1: V yeah VM, my performance was crazy man. The death
Speaker 1: Jamn yeah yeah, shout out to death jam and it
Speaker 1: was fun, you know what I'm saying, Just getting up
Speaker 1: there and again prime example.
Speaker 2: So you got all these kids.
Speaker 1: You know, they twenty nineteen eighteen, and you know, and
Speaker 1: they rocket to the music, you know, but some of
Speaker 1: them they know proclivities were for word doing it. They're like, okay,
Speaker 1: but they know proclivities were for word. It's like it's
Speaker 1: a very yo.
Speaker 2: It's dope. It's dope. Though it was fun, no question,
Speaker 2: no question. Ain't that right? M J deaf Jam bred
Speaker 2: in the building.
Speaker 4: He speaking of death Jam. Those tours back in the
Speaker 4: day were legendary. I mean pup again, I mean the
Speaker 4: Beastie Boys and so on and so forth, and I
Speaker 4: mean you got a good story, a good nugget you
Speaker 4: could share backstage.
Speaker 1: On man I so many man I used to I
Speaker 1: had a tour where I used to come out of
Speaker 1: the radio and Flavor Flavor.
Speaker 2: I get up in the radio. He's in there waiting,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, you know, I'm like, I got a.
Speaker 2: Middle of my intro. I'm like, I'm in my set
Speaker 2: on my problem, Like, Yo, Flave, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: B He's like, yo, al Man, I said, just come
Speaker 1: out with me, and he comes out the radio. Women
Speaker 1: it's just like yo yo. So many different things we
Speaker 1: went through so many yo bro like yo, and then
Speaker 1: there's some things that probably would you better shed off air.
Speaker 5: Yeah, inspiration, that's all it is.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: I was thinking about it, like, what is a line
Speaker 3: that you've written that makes you laugh that you're like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe I said that.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I believe I said everything. I believe I
Speaker 1: said all of it. I in fact, it's the whole
Speaker 1: point is when it makes me laugh, I want to
Speaker 1: use it like like it's somebod that stuff is like
Speaker 1: it is the ridiculousness of it that makes it. I
Speaker 1: don't know, It's just so many songs I've written, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Uh, I mean so many songs
Speaker 1: about women are always great, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 1: I mean even header Sprung fool, you know, sexy and
Speaker 1: you know you're just you're laying it.
Speaker 2: I like the wild Out. I like the wild Out,
Speaker 2: Like Headsprung was silly. Headsprung was silly, but I wrote Headsprung.
Speaker 1: It's like it's kind of like, you know how Robert
Speaker 1: de Niro would do analyze this right, like sometimes he
Speaker 1: would do the you know he would do you know,
Speaker 1: Godfather too or heat, but then he'll do analy well,
Speaker 1: Headsprung was the equivalent of a actor doing a comedy, okay, right,
Speaker 1: so so so when you think about, like the opening
Speaker 1: lines of it, when I say they call me big
Speaker 1: Ellie a bit silly, big money big really like it's
Speaker 1: just ridiculous, But that was the whole point. Works, yes,
Speaker 1: because of that, right so like so so a lot
Speaker 1: of things I write, it depends on the song, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. But but when I get a
Speaker 1: chuckle out of myself, that's usually a good son, you know,
Speaker 1: because if I if I yeah, if you know.
Speaker 2: If I'm feeling that we're in the right zone, in
Speaker 2: the right zone.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned heads frong because the New York Liberty
Speaker 3: use your song.
Speaker 1: Yeah, big Ellie, Yeah yeah, yeah Ellie it's crazy. That's nuts,
Speaker 1: that's nuts, right, Yeah, it's cool. Not it's cool, it's great.
Speaker 1: Who knew? Boy is crazy? Thank you man? Man? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just come on man, thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Bosco energy,
Speaker 1: it's like a visit on my neck and snowing on
Speaker 1: my wrists. You want to teach them how to hustle.
Speaker 1: Take a pick of me and show him this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that doing is crazy the bos energy. I shot a
Speaker 1: video for that. I actually got a visual for that,
Speaker 1: and that song is really what. The thing that inspired
Speaker 1: that song is a movie called Downtown eighty one and
Speaker 1: it was a semi auto auto biographical film about Jean
Speaker 1: Michelle Boskia, the artist. And in the in the movie,
Speaker 1: he did this funny dance, him and fab fab five
Speaker 1: Freddy in this little spot and he starts doing this
Speaker 1: little ridiculous, like little silly dance. And when he did that,
Speaker 1: me and Tim was looking at We just started laughing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, look at this dance. And we ended
Speaker 1: up making the song over that wow and taking off
Speaker 1: the dance. Yeah, because yeah, yeah, so there's actually a
Speaker 1: dance that goes with boskiot energy.
Speaker 2: There's a dance.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And talk were coming from and I ain't Chris
Speaker 1: Brown bro like, so if I could do it, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, if I could do it, I'm
Speaker 1: not Todd Brown bro.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: It ain't t Brown over, so I could do it.
Speaker 1: That's right, Yo, that's right. We're in good space, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Good Darston Fat Joe Saturday Night Special. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's not about a gun. Well that I mean you.
Speaker 1: That was obviously one of the plays on the words,
Speaker 1: but it's really about because your decisions are like a gun, right.
Speaker 2: It kind of goes back to like remember.
Speaker 1: The godfeather too, he said, I think it was a
Speaker 1: golf He was godfather too, he said.
Speaker 2: He said, I don't know anything about you know, politics?
Speaker 1: He said, well, you understand guns, he said, yeah, he said, well,
Speaker 1: he said, money is a gun, and politics is known
Speaker 1: when to pull a trigger. Right. So it's like, but
Speaker 1: the song itself is about integrity. Always keep your word,
Speaker 1: always paying back. The one thing you learn moving around
Speaker 1: any street, any hood in the world in general, don't
Speaker 1: try to be a tough guy, have manners, respect people's mothers, girls, sisters.
Speaker 1: No one is shut up, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Know how to play your position and keep your work.
Speaker 1: You do these things, you got a better chance, you know,
Speaker 1: getting out of there with a sandwich in your life, right,
Speaker 1: Like you want to go get a sandwich and have
Speaker 1: your life and enjoy your life, right, So these are
Speaker 1: things that will help that. So Saturday Night Special is
Speaker 1: really a song about integrity and the idea that yo,
Speaker 1: if I tell you I'm gonna do something I do it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm saying, if I tell you I'm.
Speaker 1: Bringing four sodas over the mar I'm bringing four sodas
Speaker 1: over the mar period.
Speaker 2: So and that goes for every area of life. Whether
Speaker 2: you're in the street.
Speaker 1: I just we just put in a street metaphor, but
Speaker 1: that if you're going to do hair, if you're going
Speaker 1: to med school, if you're going to be a lawyer,
Speaker 1: if you're a mechanic, if the mechanic says to you,
Speaker 1: your car is gonna be ready Thursday, Joe, you said Thursday,
Speaker 1: I'm in next third.
Speaker 2: Don't play, man, don't play.
Speaker 1: You said Thursday. Yeah, you're funny guy. It's every mechanic, man,
Speaker 1: you feel me. So that's the thinking behind Saturday Night Special.
Speaker 1: That's the whole idea of keeping your word and not
Speaker 1: you don't got to be perfect, but that moral integrity.
Speaker 1: You know, what I'm saying is doing what you say
Speaker 1: you're gonna do. Yes, sir, your force is out on
Speaker 1: all streaming platforms. A question, cool j Man. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: youngest legend alive. Yeah, I appreciate that. Look at you, man,
Speaker 1: You know, I feel good now you should thankful, you know,
Speaker 1: and and and you feel good. You take care of yourself.
Speaker 1: You have. You know, we got a lot of hip
Speaker 1: hop legends going early. When I say early in they fifty. Yeah, no, raizy,
Speaker 1: that's scary.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You gotta exercise, man, you gotta you gotta look.
Speaker 1: Are you telling me that or all of us?
Speaker 3: All of us?
Speaker 2: I'm telling all of us that I do.
Speaker 1: Ye. Yeah, that has you got? Now you're good. My
Speaker 1: son the other.
Speaker 2: Day said dak can I my desert back?
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck, yeah, that's a problem. That's a problem.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Now you gotta look when your elbow bend. If your
Speaker 1: elbow ben and you're getting tired, that's an issue.
Speaker 2: That's an issue.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like you know, you know
Speaker 1: you got twenty two year olds walking up says like young,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to what's doing out of breath? Man, it's
Speaker 1: supposed to be yo yo crazy. So, like being in
Speaker 1: shape is a big part of this because it's good
Speaker 1: for your mind too.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, what's your what's your day
Speaker 2: to day?
Speaker 1: Like, what's your So it depends, but I work on
Speaker 1: endurance and stamming up primarily. Primarily everything I do is
Speaker 1: to be able to go to distance. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. It's it's less about trying to be muscle
Speaker 1: man and seeing how heavy I can lift. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to be hercules. I'm just I just want to
Speaker 1: have good stamina and be strong, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So I do a lot of things like into training
Speaker 1: and a lot of you know, cardio and a lot
Speaker 1: of stuff that keeps my heart rate elevated. And then
Speaker 1: of course I lift weights and all that too. But
Speaker 1: it's a combination of those things, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first time you performed? Where was it?
Speaker 1: What happened publicly?
Speaker 2: You mean professionally or as an amateur?
Speaker 1: As an amateur? Oh man, the first time I performed, well,
Speaker 1: it started off in the room, so that don't count.
Speaker 1: But outside it was the basement of a church, and
Speaker 1: a girl came up to me and said, boy, you
Speaker 1: can't wrap and goes back to your thing about the
Speaker 1: you know, the hate and the living. Yeah, go get it,
Speaker 1: you gotta if you strong enough to transform. And so
Speaker 1: she said that to me, and that kind of was
Speaker 1: good inspiration, you know what I'm saying. Professionally, professionally, Manhattan
Speaker 1: Center High School.
Speaker 2: Now it was a high school.
Speaker 1: They pushed the lunch room table well, actually no, the
Speaker 1: first time was at my high school, you know, like
Speaker 1: ninth grade. I went to the shop class. I performed
Speaker 1: in the shop class. That gave me an opportunity to
Speaker 1: do that. My man bim me set it up.
Speaker 2: I did that. I never came back to school. That
Speaker 2: was over with. I had five thousand dollars in my
Speaker 2: dresser draw. I was happy at over. Grandma was kicking me.
Speaker 2: I ain't trying to hear that.
Speaker 1: Man, I got hey, yeah, I got five thousand. Say
Speaker 1: that like, I ain't.
Speaker 2: Going back to school. But then, but.
Speaker 1: Yo yo, it takes something, yo yo yo yo five
Speaker 1: thousand and your draw felt like that was like.
Speaker 6: Yo, bro, I felt like Caesar, like Caesar. I felt
Speaker 6: like Caesar, Hell Caesar. So then nobody nothing nothing.
Speaker 1: So then professionally, outside of that, when I got Book
Speaker 1: four show it was Manhattan Center High School, they push
Speaker 1: the lunch room tables together. And I remember like after
Speaker 1: we finished performing, you know, a couple of the kids
Speaker 1: was like, yo, sign this for mean I was signed
Speaker 1: or grass. I looked at my man cut created I'm
Speaker 1: like yo. I was like.
Speaker 2: He was like, I was like, yo, I like this.
Speaker 2: He was like I like this. He was like yeah,
Speaker 2: I like this too, you know, saying that.
Speaker 1: We was just signing and actually a little side note,
Speaker 1: my first show ever, did my man's car broke down?
Speaker 1: The axle broke on his car. Yeah, So we had
Speaker 1: to walk like twenty blocks to the show. He was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: but they're gonna they're gonna strip my car.
Speaker 2: I'm like, man, fuck that car. Man, let him strip it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, let him strip that joint.
Speaker 2: We gotta go.
Speaker 1: So we left the car in the middle of the street,
Speaker 1: walk like, just walk like twenty blocks and get to
Speaker 1: the show. I wasn't missing that show no matter what,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, because you gotta want it.
Speaker 1: So we went to the show and do what we
Speaker 1: had to do, and you know, rest is history and
Speaker 1: car Yeah, I don't even know. I was so excited.
Speaker 1: I didn't even get back to that. I wasn't even
Speaker 1: I wasn't even thinking about that shit. Yo, he had
Speaker 1: to go deal with that. Push my part before me.
Speaker 2: I'm good.
Speaker 1: I'm Gucci. I'm Gucci man. We were doing this the
Speaker 1: forest Man, The Forest Man. Listen to a vibe to
Speaker 1: it is crazy man. Yeah. The music once again from
Speaker 1: Oh Cool Jay. Thank you, appreciate you, thank you. Cruising Baby,
Speaker 1: Let's get it man. Cruise show really, no question, all day,