WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.879 --> 00:00:04.879 I don't believe you want to leave like this whispering 2 00:00:04.919 --> 00:00:09.119 I love you when I'll always be here to us. 3 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:11.720 No problemma to getti move to You can plend on 4 00:00:11.839 --> 00:00:14.519 your dilemma. I gotta take it from your man. That's 5 00:00:14.560 --> 00:00:16.920 my mission. If its love has really got the hand 6 00:00:16.920 --> 00:00:19.440 of the competition. You're the type of girl, the kind of. 7 00:00:24.559 --> 00:00:29.480 Hollywood is he good, greatest of all time. Number One 8 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:33.759 priority self preservation that applies to the majority different situations. 9 00:00:34.159 --> 00:00:36.359 The hands got something that you can't quite handle. 10 00:00:36.759 --> 00:00:39.119 Give it to your man, rough and anywhere that handcuffs. 11 00:00:39.119 --> 00:00:41.920 I'm well from the black while we stand up. Candem, candem, 12 00:00:41.960 --> 00:00:45.079 condemn candem. But let it breathe for a second. Hold on, 13 00:00:45.479 --> 00:00:49.039 let that let that sit there for a second. Crazy 14 00:00:49.240 --> 00:00:54.399 hell COOLJ is back on the cruise, cruising, cruising? What's up? 15 00:00:54.479 --> 00:00:55.000 Man, what's up? 16 00:00:55.719 --> 00:00:58.119 Confused with that intro? Yeah, yeah it was with that night. 17 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:00.600 I was right, It's crazy. Was hot, Yeah, that was hot. 18 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:03.000 That was hot. We got to get you that. Different chambers, 19 00:01:03.200 --> 00:01:07.680 different chambers, different change, different memories, different moments and time 20 00:01:07.959 --> 00:01:11.200 and time errors. Eras for sure, you know what I'm saying. 21 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:13.840 Like the King of Eras, dog you know what I'm saying, 22 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:15.359 young legend, living legend al. 23 00:01:15.599 --> 00:01:17.920 I'm thankful, man, I'm thankful. Yeah, yeah, I like to. 24 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.640 I just wanted to show people that we could keep going, 25 00:01:21.680 --> 00:01:23.760 you know what I'm saying, Like hip hop, You know, 26 00:01:23.879 --> 00:01:26.400 dreams don't have deadlines. Baby, At the end of the day, 27 00:01:26.400 --> 00:01:29.079 it's about pressing play. That's a fact that I'm everything 28 00:01:29.079 --> 00:01:31.840 all bets off. Press play. Let me press play on 29 00:01:31.879 --> 00:01:34.920 that joy press play high feel right then? 30 00:01:35.079 --> 00:01:35.200 Right? 31 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.040 Yeah, Now, when you describe it like making films making 32 00:01:38.120 --> 00:01:40.959 albums right throughout the years, right, you have Steven Spielberg, 33 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:44.200 Martin Scors, these great filmmakers, so many more, right, and 34 00:01:44.200 --> 00:01:46.359 then we have the old Cool Jays and so forth 35 00:01:46.439 --> 00:01:49.599 right making great albums, it's the same vibe because, yeah, 36 00:01:49.599 --> 00:01:52.359 because you want to just do things that I just 37 00:01:52.400 --> 00:01:54.519 wanted to show people that was possible. I think that 38 00:01:54.599 --> 00:01:57.359 hip hop had gotten to a place where we kind 39 00:01:57.359 --> 00:02:01.439 of felt like you just have to trying to dismiss 40 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:04.519 anything that came before and time moves, and I just 41 00:02:04.560 --> 00:02:07.760 don't agree with that concept because it's not about it's 42 00:02:07.799 --> 00:02:11.319 about old and new, not old and young and so 43 00:02:11.479 --> 00:02:14.479 and the new means the new idea it's so I 44 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:16.879 think people the reason why people get caught up in 45 00:02:16.919 --> 00:02:21.919 the idea sometimes of rors and being able to continue 46 00:02:21.919 --> 00:02:25.759 is because of where the new ideas come from. So 47 00:02:25.759 --> 00:02:27.639 it's about like if you have a fresh idea, if 48 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.360 you have a new approach, if you have a new 49 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:31.639 take on how to make the music. Like when we were 50 00:02:31.599 --> 00:02:33.919 talking about the song, the sound of the beat sound different, 51 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:37.319 Like if you have something new, you could keep going. 52 00:02:37.520 --> 00:02:40.280 You know what I'm saying. It's about innovation, the force. 53 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:44.039 The force is out on all streaming platforms. Just crazy man, 54 00:02:44.360 --> 00:02:49.080 you and Q tip Yeah, thankful man, god bless yeah man, 55 00:02:50.039 --> 00:02:53.000 than's you crazy man? Just everything just sounds so well 56 00:02:53.039 --> 00:02:55.800 put together right and of course you got legends on 57 00:02:55.840 --> 00:02:59.039 the project. NOAs with a song with nas right, praise him? 58 00:02:59.719 --> 00:03:01.879 Is that like to get him on the song? Is 59 00:03:01.879 --> 00:03:04.120 that a text a call emails not a DM well 60 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:05.080 with nos no no no. 61 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:07.080 I text him. I text him and told him about 62 00:03:07.120 --> 00:03:07.439 the song. 63 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.800 And you know, I wanted to, you know cause I'm 64 00:03:10.919 --> 00:03:13.919 like dabbling in supreme mathematics from when I was a 65 00:03:14.000 --> 00:03:15.599 kid on that on that particular song. 66 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:16.520 So he came in. 67 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:18.439 I wanted him to paint a picture you know what 68 00:03:18.479 --> 00:03:20.639 I'm saying to kind of take people transport him to 69 00:03:20.680 --> 00:03:23.000 that time, because the things that I'm saying on that record, 70 00:03:23.479 --> 00:03:25.840 particularly praise them, is very subtle. So if you don't 71 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:28.520 know the supreme mathematics, some of the things I'm saying 72 00:03:28.560 --> 00:03:30.639 could go over your head. But if you if you 73 00:03:30.759 --> 00:03:33.280 understand it, then it's like it's it's it's like coded. 74 00:03:33.360 --> 00:03:35.280 So it's it's fun, you know in that regard. 75 00:03:35.400 --> 00:03:37.680 So like with him, I just hit him like yo, 76 00:03:37.759 --> 00:03:40.439 we never did this and then and it was just 77 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:42.039 was time, you know what I'm saying. And I wanted 78 00:03:42.080 --> 00:03:44.639 to rhyme and make songs with the guys that were 79 00:03:44.639 --> 00:03:48.120 the most talented, but also people that fit the song 80 00:03:48.199 --> 00:03:49.039 that I was working on. 81 00:03:49.080 --> 00:03:53.680 So like with Nas, that beat be just fit me 82 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:54.960 and Nas, and like the one with. 83 00:03:55.080 --> 00:03:57.439 Em it fit me and m and like all of 84 00:03:57.439 --> 00:03:59.479 the song like sweety it fit me and Sweetie, you 85 00:03:59.479 --> 00:04:00.000 know what I'm saying. 86 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:01.759 So that was the vibe, you know what I'm saying. 87 00:04:01.800 --> 00:04:04.120 Man on murder Gram, you Eminem did y'all thing I 88 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:06.680 mentioned this off the air, L was not about to 89 00:04:06.800 --> 00:04:10.039 let Eminem get away with nothing on that song. Let 90 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:12.280 me tell you some man, Eminem is my man. He's 91 00:04:12.360 --> 00:04:16.120 my friend, you know what I'm saying. And I look 92 00:04:16.199 --> 00:04:19.439 at him as like, you know, like he's like having 93 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:23.920 a super talented younger brother who who's really dedicated. He's 94 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:26.279 like a scientist when it comes to em seeing and 95 00:04:26.319 --> 00:04:29.240 I love that because I'm that way too. And so 96 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:33.839 it was just the perfect opportunity for us to rock together. 97 00:04:33.920 --> 00:04:36.399 We had talked about it for many years and we had, 98 00:04:36.519 --> 00:04:38.800 you know, kind of flirted with the idea, but we 99 00:04:38.839 --> 00:04:41.120 never you know, got around to it. And it was like, 100 00:04:41.199 --> 00:04:42.879 this made sense to me. Yeah, we got you know, 101 00:04:42.879 --> 00:04:44.959 because I don't like the thing. My thing is like, 102 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:47.680 if you're gonna put different people on a song together, 103 00:04:47.720 --> 00:04:50.600 it's not enough to just the idea of it. Can't 104 00:04:50.639 --> 00:04:53.160 just be good. The execution got to be great. So 105 00:04:53.240 --> 00:04:55.720 me and m you know, making a sting, right, Yeah, 106 00:04:56.480 --> 00:04:58.959 it's got a sting, baby, And that's what we did. So, Yo, 107 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:00.399 we had a ball with that one. You know, you're 108 00:05:00.439 --> 00:05:02.439 his favorite rapper, it's not one of his favorite rappers. 109 00:05:02.639 --> 00:05:04.519 And he loves the fact that he gets to call 110 00:05:04.560 --> 00:05:06.879 you Todd like that's I love. 111 00:05:06.839 --> 00:05:10.920 That he's welcome to call me Todd, no problem. 112 00:05:10.959 --> 00:05:12.759 I've heard him in interviews like, yeah, he's my friend 113 00:05:12.800 --> 00:05:15.560 Todd like yeah, no doubt. Right now, that's my friend Marshall, 114 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:19.720 a good friend of mine, my very talented friend, Marshal. 115 00:05:20.240 --> 00:05:23.199 You know that's that's a TV show, tod At Marshall. Yeah, 116 00:05:24.360 --> 00:05:27.800 it really is like an album title, right man, you 117 00:05:27.879 --> 00:05:30.920 know Garcia, you know Jackie that's is actually a super fan. 118 00:05:30.959 --> 00:05:35.720 We let him in the building, man, I I submitted. 119 00:05:35.800 --> 00:05:36.959 Uh that's. 120 00:05:38.399 --> 00:05:38.600 Why. 121 00:05:40.439 --> 00:05:40.839 Yeah. 122 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:47.120 Look he's stopped many other artists, but not your here man, 123 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:47.720 welcome back. 124 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:47.879 To the show. 125 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:50.240 We are Thank you, Thank you man, thank you for sure. 126 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.160 The Force is out platforms. Can you talk to us 127 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:55.360 about the title and the artwork of the project. Yeah, 128 00:05:55.399 --> 00:05:57.519 so the Force, you know, it's about that that in 129 00:05:57.560 --> 00:06:00.279 the voice society you that like that encourages you to 130 00:06:00.360 --> 00:06:02.800 inspire you to go after your dreams. Right, Like we're 131 00:06:02.839 --> 00:06:04.680 all on this kind of big adventure, you know what 132 00:06:04.720 --> 00:06:08.120 I'm saying, Like everybody's the hero of their own life movie. 133 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:10.160 You know what I'm saying. And where you go with 134 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:11.920 that is up to you. Me. 135 00:06:12.680 --> 00:06:14.800 You know, I choose to like follow my bliss and 136 00:06:14.839 --> 00:06:17.279 follow that voice inside of me, so I make the music, 137 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.759 and I make hip hop because I love it, you 138 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:21.800 know what I'm saying, no other reason. It really is 139 00:06:21.839 --> 00:06:23.839 about loving it, just the same way I loved it 140 00:06:23.959 --> 00:06:26.519 when I first started. I did it because I loved it. 141 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:30.319 So the lover is first. That's so that's what the 142 00:06:30.360 --> 00:06:33.600 Force is about. The forces about tapping into what's inside 143 00:06:33.600 --> 00:06:36.639 of you and getting that out and really you. 144 00:06:36.560 --> 00:06:39.319 Know, taking that to the next level. If that makes sense, 145 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:40.120 you know what I'm saying. 146 00:06:40.680 --> 00:06:45.800 In terms of the artwork, Q Tip actually Drew did 147 00:06:46.560 --> 00:06:48.000 the artwork on the cover, you know. 148 00:06:47.959 --> 00:06:50.120 What I'm saying. Like he had showed me a sketch. 149 00:06:50.120 --> 00:06:52.319 He was messing around with sketches and all that, and 150 00:06:52.319 --> 00:06:53.959 he sent the sketch to me. I was like, Yo, 151 00:06:54.040 --> 00:06:56.160 this is it. I said, this is crazy. We need 152 00:06:56.199 --> 00:06:58.399 to use this for the album cover. So I combine 153 00:06:58.480 --> 00:07:01.879 that with you know, with the shoot and and you know, 154 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:03.399 the Force cover was born. 155 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:06.399 So I really, you know, worked on this. 156 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:10.519 It was very collaborative in terms of you know, the 157 00:07:10.600 --> 00:07:14.040 people and the you know, just the approach. 158 00:07:14.279 --> 00:07:17.040 You know. I didn't want to like, I just didn't 159 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.439 want to do nothing boring man. 160 00:07:18.319 --> 00:07:21.279 You know, saying like my dudes, like it's nothing worse 161 00:07:21.319 --> 00:07:24.560 than you know, your heroes like half stepping, you know, 162 00:07:24.800 --> 00:07:25.480 late in the game. 163 00:07:25.800 --> 00:07:27.480 You know it's like, don't do that, bro, Like. 164 00:07:28.360 --> 00:07:30.480 Yeah, yeah, album just to put out. I don't slip 165 00:07:30.519 --> 00:07:33.199 on a banana peal, you know, slip on a banana 166 00:07:33.199 --> 00:07:35.439 appeal with your album, because that's what you know people 167 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:36.000 be expecting. 168 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:42.120 Here we go, I'm done, Here we go, Here we go, 169 00:07:43.639 --> 00:07:45.000 Little Ellie, I know what he goes. 170 00:07:45.240 --> 00:07:46.600 I know what you're gonna do. 171 00:07:47.199 --> 00:07:49.439 I know you're gonna try to sound like somebody. 172 00:07:49.120 --> 00:07:52.680 That's very true, very true, and you had a lot 173 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:53.959 of fun and you got to work. 174 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:54.319 Yeah. 175 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.920 Yeah, you gotta listen. Man, if you really love something, 176 00:07:56.959 --> 00:07:58.879 you gotta put your heart and soul in tweet. You 177 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:01.040 gotta be passionate about the songs you rapping like the 178 00:08:01.120 --> 00:08:04.360 rands do. I'm like, y'all, you know, actually. 179 00:08:04.079 --> 00:08:05.120 I'm written like I love it. 180 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:07.319 You know what I'm saying, Like, you know, I know 181 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:09.639 what you're saying, Like I started out, You're doing this 182 00:08:09.800 --> 00:08:12.759 because I love it. So as long as you maintained 183 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:14.560 that love for it and that passion for it, you're 184 00:08:14.560 --> 00:08:16.360 gonna go hard. Man. You know what I'm saying, Like 185 00:08:16.720 --> 00:08:18.920 you gotta want it, Like I was telling somebody earlier, 186 00:08:19.040 --> 00:08:21.480 like if they shoved your head in a barrel of water, 187 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:23.000 you gotta want it like you would want air. 188 00:08:23.120 --> 00:08:25.160 You know what I'm saying. You gotta be hungry for that. 189 00:08:25.199 --> 00:08:28.560 You know, there's an artist that that that are hip hop. Right, 190 00:08:28.600 --> 00:08:31.319 you gave us hip hop, You gave you continue its 191 00:08:31.360 --> 00:08:33.360 a lot of ways, in a lot in a lot 192 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:35.159 of ways, no matter what you did too, whether it 193 00:08:35.200 --> 00:08:38.039 was on the screen or coming out them speakers. Yeah, yeah, nah, 194 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:40.840 it's look, man, I'm just happy that I've been able 195 00:08:40.840 --> 00:08:43.879 to make, you know, a contribution, you know, to the world, 196 00:08:44.120 --> 00:08:46.879 and have the impact that I've had. You know, you 197 00:08:47.799 --> 00:08:50.159 just never know, man, it just kind of worked out 198 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:52.399 that way. I when I fell in love with the game, 199 00:08:52.440 --> 00:08:55.960 I didn't know that, you know, I was gonna grab 200 00:08:56.080 --> 00:08:58.480 so much of it, you know, and influence so much 201 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.159 of it. I just did it from pure passion, like 202 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:03.399 a little kid staring at the vinyl, going in a circle, 203 00:09:03.480 --> 00:09:06.919 imagining myself inside the record, like wondering what it was 204 00:09:06.960 --> 00:09:08.919 like when I heard these voices coming out of the song. 205 00:09:08.960 --> 00:09:11.440 You know what I'm saying, Because it's like, you know, 206 00:09:11.480 --> 00:09:13.240 as a little kid. I just wanted to feel that 207 00:09:13.360 --> 00:09:16.919 empowered feeling, feel powerful. You know sometimes you know you 208 00:09:17.000 --> 00:09:20.159 ca catch a whooping from your step pops or something, 209 00:09:20.200 --> 00:09:22.720 and you know you go to your room and you like, yo. 210 00:09:22.960 --> 00:09:25.320 You know that that music it. 211 00:09:25.360 --> 00:09:26.840 Serves a purpose. You know what I'm saying. 212 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:30.639 It like made me feel hold again. So I was like, yo, Yo, 213 00:09:30.879 --> 00:09:32.879 Now I'm gonna whoop some I'm gonna whoop some. 214 00:09:32.759 --> 00:09:35.240 Man some cakes. You know I'm gonna tap you know 215 00:09:35.240 --> 00:09:35.639 what I mean? 216 00:09:36.000 --> 00:09:37.919 Something, what do you think you're stronger for us? 217 00:09:38.000 --> 00:09:39.799 Love or hate? Love? 218 00:09:40.159 --> 00:09:43.600 Yeah, because the love can stop hate, but hate can't 219 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:48.360 stop love. Say that one more time. I said love 220 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.879 is stronger because love can stop hate, but hay can't 221 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:53.840 stop love. Okay, you know what I'm saying. So it's 222 00:09:53.879 --> 00:09:56.480 like I give you an example. It's like if you're 223 00:09:56.480 --> 00:10:00.120 in a dark room and I like a match, that 224 00:10:00.159 --> 00:10:03.440 one little that one little light, that one little source 225 00:10:03.440 --> 00:10:07.759 of light illuminates the whole room. Darkness doesn't come from anywhere, 226 00:10:08.440 --> 00:10:10.639 It just is what it is. You know what I'm saying. 227 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:13.559 So it's like, now, now mind you, Now here's the 228 00:10:13.559 --> 00:10:14.679 flip side of what you're saying. 229 00:10:15.480 --> 00:10:16.440 Now, if you ask me. 230 00:10:17.759 --> 00:10:20.799 Can can can traumatic experiences or can you hate some 231 00:10:21.000 --> 00:10:24.639 hating somebody fuel you to go do things? That's a 232 00:10:24.639 --> 00:10:29.000 different conversation. Yes, it can, absolutely the motive. But that's 233 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:31.279 but you gotta remember what you're doing, though, is you're 234 00:10:31.279 --> 00:10:34.320 you're taking that heat, that hate and you're transforming it 235 00:10:34.360 --> 00:10:35.720 into your love for something else. 236 00:10:36.159 --> 00:10:39.200 So you're still flipping the script. Yep. Ultimately, even though 237 00:10:39.200 --> 00:10:40.000 the hate of. 238 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:42.320 You know, this person beat me or this person did 239 00:10:42.360 --> 00:10:44.240 this to me, and that may be the thing that 240 00:10:44.279 --> 00:10:46.519 moves you to do a certain thing, my big brother, 241 00:10:46.879 --> 00:10:50.159 you know, you know, whatever it is, it's still that 242 00:10:50.320 --> 00:10:53.320 you're gonna channel that. You're still transmuting that into something 243 00:10:53.360 --> 00:10:55.799 else to take your life to the next level. You 244 00:10:55.799 --> 00:11:00.159 feel men with podcast? Yeah, real qui we need. 245 00:11:01.720 --> 00:11:02.639 It's called the Force. 246 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:08.080 You've shown you tip a lot of love since you've 247 00:11:08.080 --> 00:11:10.480 been in the interview, the artwork and the production. Do 248 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:12.759 you recall the first time you ever heard a tripe 249 00:11:12.759 --> 00:11:14.399 called quest and what did you think of them? 250 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:15.120 Oh? 251 00:11:15.200 --> 00:11:17.840 Yeah, I mean just hearing you know, I left my 252 00:11:17.879 --> 00:11:20.720 wile in El Segundo and then you know, seeing them 253 00:11:20.919 --> 00:11:24.039 do a video in my neighborhood. On top of the cleaners, 254 00:11:24.519 --> 00:11:26.440 like you know, you know when they did that video 255 00:11:26.480 --> 00:11:28.399 on top of the cleaners back in the days, like 256 00:11:28.919 --> 00:11:31.759 you know, that was like incredible to me. It was 257 00:11:31.799 --> 00:11:33.720 amazing to me. It was like dudes from my hood, 258 00:11:33.840 --> 00:11:38.840 like you know, made it. I couldn't have been happier. 259 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:41.840 Like it was just an incredible feeling because I know, 260 00:11:42.000 --> 00:11:44.639 like my neighborhood is filled with so many different artists 261 00:11:44.639 --> 00:11:46.799 that have come from there, so from even from back 262 00:11:46.840 --> 00:11:48.039 in the days, from like run. 263 00:11:47.879 --> 00:11:50.840 DMC, and then you got ll Cool J. 264 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:53.000 And then you got a tribe called Quest, and then 265 00:11:53.039 --> 00:11:55.720 you got you know, in other parts of town, Mob Deep, 266 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:58.320 and then you got Fifties and then you got job Rule, 267 00:11:58.399 --> 00:12:01.679 and then you have like all of these various artists 268 00:12:02.399 --> 00:12:04.440 all come from around there. You had James Brown who 269 00:12:04.480 --> 00:12:07.480 lived around there, Count Basie who lived around there, and 270 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:10.639 you know Louis Armstrong who lived around there. And I 271 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.159 mean it's just a very it's a lot. It's a 272 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:15.240 lot of music and a lot of vibes. So see 273 00:12:15.279 --> 00:12:19.000 a tribe. They were unbelievable, man, And then just what 274 00:12:19.039 --> 00:12:21.720 they did, how they did it, it was crazy crazy, 275 00:12:21.720 --> 00:12:23.679 you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, super dope it 276 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:26.200 was a different sound, super dope and sophisticated. 277 00:12:26.279 --> 00:12:26.919 You know what I'm saying. 278 00:12:27.200 --> 00:12:29.519 I was, you know, very sophisticated. You know me, I've 279 00:12:29.559 --> 00:12:31.600 always been like a little bit of a savage man, 280 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:35.240 like a lot of savage baby, a lot of savageness 281 00:12:35.320 --> 00:12:39.759 going on. Yeah. They was very sophisticated, a little bit 282 00:12:39.879 --> 00:12:42.440 a little bit more well read, so to speak. You 283 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:47.360 know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, savage man, no shirt man, 284 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:48.159 you know what I mean. 285 00:12:48.240 --> 00:12:48.919 Let's get to it. 286 00:12:49.000 --> 00:12:52.360 Let's get to it. 287 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:54.440 You know a lot of artists come in here and 288 00:12:54.480 --> 00:12:57.120 they're very like flashy with Julie. I want to point 289 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.200 out because I haven't been able to keep my eyes 290 00:12:59.240 --> 00:12:59.480 off it. 291 00:12:59.519 --> 00:12:59.879 Your friend. 292 00:13:00.759 --> 00:13:07.559 Yeah, oh yeah, so so you were fifty alt lt 293 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:12.360 A cool t. This is now you know what little kids, 294 00:13:12.840 --> 00:13:15.240 little kids give I did like some in stores right 295 00:13:15.639 --> 00:13:18.440 sign in vinyl and like there'll be like ten year 296 00:13:18.480 --> 00:13:20.360 olds and eight year olds that may come with their 297 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:21.919 parents and stuff, and they made these for me. And 298 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:24.080 the reason why I put it on is because it 299 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.840 just shows you how your music can keep, you know, 300 00:13:27.919 --> 00:13:31.000 impacting people. Like for a lot there's little kids right 301 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:33.000 now that are ten, twelve years old and murder Graham 302 00:13:33.080 --> 00:13:34.320 is the first time they heard lf. 303 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:37.159 They don't even know about the love songs that people know. 304 00:13:37.240 --> 00:13:39.960 They don't know the other old the harder songs like 305 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:41.480 el Bomb, they don't know Rock. 306 00:13:41.399 --> 00:13:43.120 The Bells, they don't know none of that. 307 00:13:43.399 --> 00:13:45.840 Like murder Graham is the first time they ever heard 308 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:48.399 of ll cooj So, but then you got people who 309 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:50.399 love you better was the first time they heard me 310 00:13:50.559 --> 00:13:52.679 and you got people doing it was. But then you 311 00:13:52.679 --> 00:13:54.559 got people back in the days going back to Cali 312 00:13:54.639 --> 00:13:57.240 and all these other Mama said nak So it's like 313 00:13:57.799 --> 00:14:00.399 it's like to me, you know, for them little kids 314 00:14:00.399 --> 00:14:02.039 to take the time and to do that, you know, 315 00:14:02.120 --> 00:14:04.480 the force and to make me these little bracelest. I mean, 316 00:14:04.600 --> 00:14:07.720 it was just like a reminder that I'm touching all 317 00:14:07.799 --> 00:14:09.799 kinds of audiences, you know what I'm saying. 318 00:14:09.600 --> 00:14:11.120 Like that's that's trippy to me. 319 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.799 You know, that's kind of like that's you know, it's trippy, 320 00:14:15.039 --> 00:14:17.600 like you know, but but it's also. 321 00:14:17.519 --> 00:14:22.000 Like it's it's how it should be. Na man. 322 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.159 You know, my son he's seven, he's a fan of 323 00:14:24.200 --> 00:14:26.919 the Beastie Boys because one of their songs was in Trolls. 324 00:14:27.360 --> 00:14:28.639 You see so here you go. 325 00:14:28.840 --> 00:14:32.000 He loves brass monkey see, there you go, there you go, 326 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:33.639 there you go. 327 00:14:34.399 --> 00:14:35.120 That's my point. 328 00:14:35.200 --> 00:14:35.519 That's it. 329 00:14:35.600 --> 00:14:36.240 That's my point. 330 00:14:36.360 --> 00:14:39.440 So you know, for me, man like with this album, 331 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:43.279 it's like it's just an opportunity to get new fans 332 00:14:43.279 --> 00:14:45.440 and to give the day one fans something that they 333 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:47.960 haven't had in a long time, and to have fun 334 00:14:48.000 --> 00:14:48.960 doing it, you know what I'm saying. 335 00:14:49.000 --> 00:14:52.080 Yes, So that being said, performing at the VMAs for 336 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:55.080 like forty years of him, like, how does that even 337 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:57.879 like because you said, you know, you touched so many 338 00:14:57.879 --> 00:15:00.639 different audiences, how do you even pick what am I 339 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:01.120 gonna do? 340 00:15:01.759 --> 00:15:04.039 You know, when when ll Coolja is performing, you're gonna 341 00:15:04.039 --> 00:15:07.120 get ll Coolja. So you're gonna get, you know, stuff 342 00:15:07.240 --> 00:15:09.879 that if you're depending on your age and when you 343 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:13.320 when you got into LL or whether even then if 344 00:15:13.440 --> 00:15:15.759 even if you never did, and this is your first time, 345 00:15:15.799 --> 00:15:17.759 you're gonna hear a cross section of things. You're gonna 346 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:19.960 hear things from the early days, and you're gonna hear 347 00:15:20.000 --> 00:15:23.799 things brand new. I'm like, you know, it's a it's 348 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:26.600 kind of a weird kind of thing for me because 349 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.000 I have like so many different entry points, right like, 350 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:31.519 you got people that know me for hosting Grammys and 351 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:34.840 people that know me for doing television shows, and you know, 352 00:15:34.879 --> 00:15:35.639 so it's it is. 353 00:15:35.799 --> 00:15:38.960 It does get weird, but you know what I'm saying, 354 00:15:39.039 --> 00:15:46.440 get awkward. I love that, Sam Hannah. It does get awkward. 355 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:49.080 But you know what, I just I just make the 356 00:15:49.159 --> 00:15:51.519 music and just pick what makes sense to me, and 357 00:15:51.559 --> 00:15:53.679 I go by my gut because the one thing that's 358 00:15:53.720 --> 00:15:56.679 important with all of this is taste and instincts, you 359 00:15:56.679 --> 00:15:58.639 know what I'm saying. So you know, it's just like 360 00:15:58.720 --> 00:15:59.320 anything else. 361 00:15:59.360 --> 00:15:59.919 You know what I'm saying. 362 00:15:59.879 --> 00:16:02.840 It's like, it's just like boxing, right, it's science, of course, 363 00:16:02.840 --> 00:16:06.879 but then this instinct and you know it's that combination, right, sir, Yes, sir, 364 00:16:07.039 --> 00:16:09.000 Spirit of Syrus with Snoop. How did that come together? 365 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:10.279 So Spirit of Cyrus. 366 00:16:11.039 --> 00:16:14.000 I got a call from a high level person in 367 00:16:14.080 --> 00:16:15.639 law enforcement and they was telling me, yo, you need 368 00:16:15.679 --> 00:16:16.240 to stay in the house. 369 00:16:16.320 --> 00:16:17.840 I'm like, why do I need to stay in the house. 370 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:20.279 They was like, well, there's a man hunt out for 371 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:23.600 this guy named Christopher Donna, and you look exactly like him. 372 00:16:23.960 --> 00:16:25.639 And then I went on the internet and I'm looking 373 00:16:25.679 --> 00:16:27.480 at this guy and it's like, I see his face 374 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:31.799 and he looks just like me coming out my note. 375 00:16:31.919 --> 00:16:34.360 He's bald, he looks just like me, and nay. On 376 00:16:34.440 --> 00:16:37.519 top of that, On top of that, people are like 377 00:16:37.600 --> 00:16:39.879 making jokes and memes, so they're putting us together on 378 00:16:39.919 --> 00:16:41.759 the joint. So I'm like, yo, yo, you guys are 379 00:16:41.799 --> 00:16:43.639 real funny. You trying to get me smashed. So and 380 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:45.279 then the talk came like you should play him in 381 00:16:45.279 --> 00:16:47.399 the movie. Well, there was that kind of talk, and 382 00:16:47.440 --> 00:16:49.320 so I went down the rabbit hole. And when I 383 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.360 went down the rabbit hole, I read his manifesto. I 384 00:16:51.360 --> 00:16:54.440 read different things that he had said, and I saw 385 00:16:54.600 --> 00:16:57.639 the things that he was talking about in terms of 386 00:16:57.679 --> 00:16:59.519 the issues he was having with the department, and the 387 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:02.240 black verse is Blue and his like everything he was 388 00:17:02.279 --> 00:17:04.960 going through, it looked it was like a metaphor or 389 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:08.000 an analogy for what was going on in America. And 390 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:09.680 so I just decided to write the song. I was 391 00:17:09.720 --> 00:17:12.039 inspired to write the song from a true place, and 392 00:17:12.039 --> 00:17:15.039 it just tell it how it went. And then when 393 00:17:15.039 --> 00:17:17.000 we when we had the sonics and everything, it was 394 00:17:17.079 --> 00:17:19.079 just like when I came up with that, don't try 395 00:17:19.079 --> 00:17:21.160 to apprehend me a black and Blue, I said, Yo, 396 00:17:21.200 --> 00:17:23.799 Snooper sound crazy, saying that. I was like, Yo, Snooper, 397 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:26.039 sound perfect on that, because you know, think about murder 398 00:17:26.160 --> 00:17:28.359 was a case back in the day Snoop's early music. 399 00:17:28.680 --> 00:17:32.079 It's like them dangerous, rough, raw sounding records, and that's 400 00:17:32.079 --> 00:17:33.680 how spirited Sirrus sounded to me. 401 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.319