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Speaker 1: You.

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Speaker 2: I'm now listening to soft core History.

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to Softcore History. I'm your

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host for the week, Damn Adjester, joined as always by

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Robert Fox.

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Speaker 2: What is happening?

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Speaker 1: How are we feeling? I'm trying to get the energy

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up right now because I think I got food poisoning

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last night.

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Speaker 2: Sick. I think I got food poisoning like thirty minutes ago.

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Hell yeah, let's go.

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Speaker 1: That's the energy we need.

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Speaker 2: There might be a diary of break in this episode.

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I'm not gonna lie like it's bad.

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Speaker 1: That was me last night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife under cooks some stuff and I meet

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like already it's been a problem. So these these beers

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I'm tossing onto the fire should be real great. This

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z in is gonna help a lot.

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Speaker 1: You're building a wall to block it. I think those

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are the reinforcements my.

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Speaker 2: Stomach at this point. He is just like a sick

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old man, like broken.

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Speaker 1: Mine's been like that since I was seventeen with Crone's disease.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know, you know the feeling.

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome to the shit.

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Speaker 2: Today. Our episodes about Vietnam.

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Speaker 1: Uh, we do mention Vietnam actually, oh sweet, Yeah, we're

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talking about one. Michael Aquino Aquino, Okay, Yeah, what's hot

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in the streets right now is demonic pedophiles.

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Speaker 2: I can't imagine why.

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna cover one. So that worked in the

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US military.

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah. So what's funny to me about like a pophile? Well,

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fair enough. What's funny to me about all the Epstein

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stuff is like there's like a sidebar that some people

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are having about like they had these like crazy rituals,

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and it appears to me that there's maybe some truth

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to it that they had like some like weird ritual thing.

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But I think it was, like my first guess is

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it was just them being like dumb and funny is

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not the right word, but like being like almost like

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I and like, oh, yeah, we're a secret group. Let's

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have some dumb secret.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like you're covering up for those people right now.

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Speaker 2: Dog everything. Out of everything they did, the part I'm

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the least concerned about is if they stood in a

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room with robes on.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We've been a part of organizations that do the

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stupid ritual b Yeah, I've been in part of three

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three very ornate like bizarre organizations, the Catholic Church.

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Speaker 2: I was an altar boy all that stuff, boy Scouts,

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and in particular within the boy Scouts, the Order of

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the Arrow. Do you ever do that?

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Speaker 1: I made it to cub Scout and I lost the

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Pinewood Derby. I spent a lot of time with my

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uncle Frank putting together that car, and I lost to

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a guy that just put his block on wheels in

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one because of weight distribution. Just a hard block, hard block,

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goddamn thing to it. I spent hours on my car.

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It looks sweet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, oh, the wind resistance is so low

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and it's just a block with.

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Speaker 1: A because gravity. You just dropping off the top, right.

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Speaker 2: I think not only did you lose, but it sounds

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like your uncle Frank probably lost some money gambling off.

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I feel like in your life the adults were gambling

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on the Pinewood Derby.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he just passed. Actually, so shus my uncle Frank.

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He had a piece of the Berlin wall that my

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mom's gonna send so hell yeah, DECK don't know why

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he had that. He also put it together with my

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great grandfather's like memorabilia.

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Speaker 2: Well like war memorabilia.

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Speaker 1: I don't know Frank Murphy. Oh yeah, the lieutenant governor. Yeah. Yeah,

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so he made kind of like a shadow box with

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all of his stuff, but then randomly put in this

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piece of the Berlin Wall in no way related.

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Speaker 2: It's just like, what is what's the theme here? History? Yeah,

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general history could be anything.

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Speaker 1: So my mom's gonna send the whole thing, I believe,

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and I'm just like, I just I just kind of

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want the.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna unbox the thing.

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Speaker 1: I want the wall.

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Speaker 2: There's a there's a historical artifact that me and my

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siblings are in the process of fighting over that our

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family has a one of our ancestors served in the

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War of eighteen twelve. And he and we have a

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land somewhere in Missouri. Signed by and this is the

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best part, signed by real ink from the man himself,

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the worst president in US history.

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Speaker 1: James Buchanan, Pennsylvania's own. Yeah, yeah, we got two technically

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because Biden also born in Scranton. I believe. Yep, yep,

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claims Delaware.

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Speaker 2: You can have him Delaware, but yeah, I really really

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want that fucking James Buchanan, Like land grant or whatever.

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It's like part of his like for his service basically.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I get that.

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Speaker 2: And then the third one was frat. So I've been

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the all the back to the point the initiation stuff like, yeah,

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a lot of these things. People they just make shit

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up and it's kind of pointless. It's just there to

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be there.

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Speaker 1: Well, my fraternity was based off like Freemason stuff. All

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of our rituals were at a Freemason lodge.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was.

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Speaker 1: A Freemason connection to that. You guys did like ancient

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Egypt shit, uhuh, which we're gonna get into today as well.

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Oh cool, Well, maybe he kind of crosses over.

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Speaker 2: Maybe he's a brother, maybe brother Aquino. You know what

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it's actually really fucked up, is I do have like

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I mean, i'll say friend because I don't want to

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be like a dick. But I know I know a

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guy who is in UT, who's at UT in my fraternity.

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His last name is a Quino.

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Speaker 1: Maybe related. Yeah, Well, there's actually two Michael Aquinos that

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are in operations. Okay, one's for the US military and

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one is like a Filipino. Huh, So it's not the

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Filipino guy, all right, we're talking about a white man

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that is very recognizable if you look at a photo

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because of his eyebrows and his hair.

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Speaker 2: Is it just like wild Man?

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Speaker 1: Think Eddie Munster with the hair and he's younger. And

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then the eyebrows he has like luciferian eyebrows, Oh like

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an upward like he customizes his in the middle like

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an upward like cartoonishly evil eyebrows.

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Speaker 2: Oh boy, it's the last thing you want to see

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walking towards you in a basement now.

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Speaker 1: Michael Aquino was born an only child in San Francisco

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in October of nine, team forty six. His father, Michael Senior,

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served in George Patten's Third Army and influenced him at

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a young age.

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Speaker 2: Boy, there's a lot of connections here. My grandfather was

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also in George Patten's third Army. Was he in the

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second Armored Division.

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Speaker 1: I didn't look into his dad.

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Speaker 2: That's fine, that's fine. I just want to know if

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my grandpa knew.

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Speaker 1: Possibly. Michael became an Eagle Scout at Santa Barbara High

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School and entered ROTC at UC Santa Barbara, where he

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studied political science.

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Speaker 2: He's a banana slug.

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Speaker 1: He was sweet merch made famous in pulp fiction.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: He was commissioned as a second lieutenant in the US

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Army in nineteen sixty eight and initially assigned to the

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eighty second Airborne at Fort Bragg, but was moved to

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psychological operations at the John F. Kennedy Special Warfare Center,

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also at Fort Bragg.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was name for Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of ironic, right, A little bit, A little bit,

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isn't it ironic? Don't you think they killed the president

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and the named the building after him?

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Speaker 2: Pide and play inside.

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Speaker 1: Michael was in a weird headspace question in life, and

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was admittedly suicidal during his training. He went back home

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for a brief leave and saw him ad in the

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underground Berkeley barb for a Satanic circle at the Founder

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of the Church of Satan's house. Anton.

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Speaker 2: Anton is such a good Satanist's first name.

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Speaker 1: He's the founder.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like that's a great name for anything Russian, not

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anything Russian, but like a Russian Slavic because you just

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get this like respute and vibe immediately it's a that's

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a that's on brand. I bet his name was George

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and he rebranded.

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Speaker 1: I think he's kind of a nerd.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of these guys like go look at like,

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I don't know what the actual like the like the

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church is Satan, people who protest or whatever. It's like

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D and D dudes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, a lot more people practice kind of dark

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magic than you think you have, all those Alistair Crowley

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followers disciples. I mean he makes an appearance in this episode.

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Speaker 2: Define dark magic because half the women we know are

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rubbing crystals on shit.

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Speaker 1: It's true. So I mean ninety of women in Austin

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at least believe in some type of spiritual witchcraft.

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Speaker 2: Right, Just have a religion and just be Catholic.

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Speaker 1: We have too many skeletons in our closet.

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Speaker 2: If you want a fun, creepy old religion.

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Speaker 1: But not really ride for it, yeah, I'd be like,

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you could be as casual as you want to stay

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away from it. Yeah, maybe we'll go back in our

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seventies eighties if I thought.

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Speaker 2: I would do it with kids, But boys, Sunday mornings

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are just a nightmare.

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Speaker 1: Just to cover our bases. Yeah, you know, before I die,

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just go back to the church, like just in case

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I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: Plus, you need you just need something to do at

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six in the morning, walk them all all they're not

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even open at six.

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Speaker 1: Well, god, when we're eighty, do you think they're there's

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probably no malls, but.

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Speaker 2: It just being it'll just be an indoor like walking

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area for old people where instead of like they probably.

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Speaker 1: Won't let the olds outside it's when we're Yeah.

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Speaker 2: It will be soup. We'll be soup. For the younger generation,

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they're like.

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Speaker 1: You're waiting taxpayer money by existing, by living.

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Speaker 2: Get out of here.

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Speaker 1: Don't worry. Grandpa will vaporize you instantly.

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Speaker 2: You won't feel a thing like you're like, oh man,

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it looked like you felt something. No, don't worry about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be those suicide pods on steroids. Yeah,

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you go in, you get zapped like a bug, and

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it's over. I prefer you move on to the next life.

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Speaker 2: I don't want the suicide pods that we have. I

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want those suicide boosts that Futurama had where you can

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hear them dying.

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Speaker 1: They're like, I'm sure you can hear them die in

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the suicide They're.

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Speaker 2: Like, but they're like very clearly being stabbed over the

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inside the box shitty music that you pick to die to,

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just and you you forget to pick and they play yah.

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Speaker 1: Now. Michael had a brief encounter with Levey a year

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prior at the San Francisco premiere of Rosemary's Baby, of course,

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and decided, let's just see what this guy's about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see what's the harm in going to one satan circle.

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Speaker 1: The night was full of ritual theatrics, including a robed

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doorsman who was actually just a professor, like a local

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professor from college.

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Speaker 2: Right, like that again? Is the thing? Is that? Like

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you're like, oh, it's this whole thing, and then like

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the robe comes off and it's like fucking like Steve Smith,

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you know, like it's just like the most normal ass

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fucking dude.

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Speaker 1: So your accountant for your tax Yeah, like.

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Speaker 2: You're just like, what are you doing here? This isn't

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this isn't exciting anymore now that I know you're here.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that's how they feel at Bohemian Grove.

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Speaker 2: If like the wrong person is there.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're all just worship in a statue of

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chud is here? Is Steve Balmer?

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got a name, he's got money. Yeah, of course, but

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to be eaten. But yeah, yeah, Steve Balmer though, like

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like always bothering people about like is it my turn

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Speaker 1: Nothing worse than being a bad hanging at Bohemian Grove

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like elon Right Island.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Anton also popped out of an Egyptian sarcophagus.

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of it. I made a video about it for TFN

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they're gonna line up and getting screamed at. And then

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they come out and it's like they're just like because

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this is really how it is. I remember Jared complimenting

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me on being like that's the most accurate thing I've

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ever seen where he they just come out and they're like,

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Speaker 1: We'd enter one by one and we were greeted by

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the historian who was like in charge of everything for

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the ritual, and we would always just fuck with them.

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the world's tallest brother, Yeah, just like kids in the

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trench coat type situation.

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Speaker 2: There's there was like one year where the person in

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that position for us was like just very like country

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and homophobic. So I would just get like as close

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to his ear as possible, and because you were supposed

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to win whispering, I'd just be like and I like

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I'd be just like pass word, Like I would just

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whisper it and like then like blow and it's just

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be like.

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Speaker 1: Michael, however, found Anton himself to be pretty funny, relaxed,

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self assured and in his own words, that was the

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night he took the apple.

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Speaker 2: Oh. Did they do some Adam and Eve shit?

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Speaker 1: Probably, But I think it's more metaphoric.

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apple there will that.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee though. The Church of Satan has a very

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real apple that you take.

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Speaker 2: Ye, and they really are they probably They probably didn't

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do this back then, but I think ever since the

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film The Vivich was released, they need to ask their

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new initiates, dost thous want? Dost thou want to live deliciously.

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Speaker 1: Quina was also recently married, so him and his wife,

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now back at Fort Bragg, decided to send in applications

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to join the church. I guess she was pretty easily

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manipulated or talked into. She married him, didn't she doing

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the Church of Satan?

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Speaker 2: What about this man in any way? Says marriage material?

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Speaker 1: She was previously a Mormon.

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Speaker 2: Okay, she's so she's just running the pendulum here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's kind of going all ends of the spectrum. Yep,

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just kind of dabbling, seeing what's available, see what it's like.

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Speaker 2: You gotta check out everything.

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Speaker 1: He deployed the Vietnam in nineteen sixty nine and directed

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syup teams with First Infantry Division and Green Berets, where

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he conducted experiments with sound, including blasting demonic screams out

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of helicopters to disorient and terrify the viet Cong. The

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Vietnamese believed the unburied dead roamed the earth in pain,

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so Michael also messed with ghostly sounds over loud speakers

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to cause the viet Cong to desert.

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Speaker 2: God, say what you want about CIA or Special Ops

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or sy ops or whatever, but we've done some hilarious things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We covered that story where.

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Speaker 2: Yep, the greatest one of all time with.

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Speaker 1: The intelligence agent sees kidnapped a soldier, hung him up

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from a tree, not a US sol, a Filipino, so

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Filipino soldier. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: They staged a vampire attack.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they believed vampires and.

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Speaker 2: The communist Filipino rebels bought it. It's it's the greatest

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story I've ever heard.

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Speaker 1: He's doing sign ups shit. Because of this, many theorized

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he might have played apart in MK Ultra.

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Speaker 2: At this point MK Ultra is like Epstein, right, It's

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like who wasn't involved? Right?

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Speaker 1: Because he penned a paper called Mine War Breaking Down

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his discoveries with psychological warfare on the Vietcong. Yeah, and

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also saying it was a proper way to go about war,

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what just break him mentally, and that you should do

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it before you actually invaded country.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we kind of broke the egg too quick

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on that one. They were already pretty resolved.

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Speaker 1: He's like, we could have saved a lot of lives

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if we just mentally broke them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, before we Because what's funny about the Vietnamese is

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that Actually though, here's the thing I gotta say, in

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that time period, at least the Vietnamese were unbreakable. They

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were invaded by Japan, France, then reinvaded by France.

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Speaker 1: Then people don't give France enough ship for.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, then invaded by the United States.

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Speaker 1: I don't blame Vietnam on us. That's that's France.

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Speaker 2: That's fair. That's like your buddy who is a pussy.

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Speaker 1: They dragged us into a.

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Speaker 2: Fight ship and get you get dragged into a fight

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and you're like and it's just you don't want to.

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Speaker 1: Be there, and they hide behind you. Yeah, and actually

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just bailed.

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Speaker 2: They just leave, just get out of there. Uh. And

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then what you got that you got it. You wiped

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Big Top front and then by the way, China invaded

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them right after we.

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Speaker 1: Left, and they kind of win, not win, but they.

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Speaker 2: Here's the thing. Does Vietnam exist today? Yes, they won.

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Speaker 1: They won.

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Speaker 2: Look if if we won the American Revolution, they won

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the Vietnam War. Yeah, that's the long and short of it.

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Because we tactically got slapped up and down. I mean,

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we did better against the British in the Vietnam. I

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don't think the vid.

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Speaker 1: I guess you can say the same about Afghanistan. Never

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been conquered. Yeah, has been Russia, US, Britain. I was

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in the Great He skipped it. He didn't even want

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to fuck with it. He was just like, but he

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hipped a toe, didn't he didn't he dip a toe?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And he was just like, but like, here's the thing, Like,

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even the British and the Victorian era. Certainly, I understand

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why we were there. What what was in it for Alexander?

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I don't know. And I think he realized that and

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was like, what's there? Oh nothing?

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Speaker 1: He sucked around in India. There's there's things to do

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in India.

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Speaker 2: Stuff in India, lots of money in India.

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Speaker 1: India is terrifying. Well yeah, especially then.

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Speaker 2: It's the end of the earth, Like literally they I'm

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sure the soldiers were like, are we on this planet anymore?

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Speaker 1: Michael began regular correspondence with Anton while he was over

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in the Jungles, and wrote in the cult text The Diabolikon,

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which reinterpreted the War in Heaven in the Book of Revelations.

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Speaker 2: Great title, much better than like Dionetics. The Diabolicon.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a sweet title. That's dope, and it's just

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reinterpreted how Satan fell got to hear both sides of

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the story. Michael returned to the States and was soon

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made a high ranking priest an editor of the church's

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Cloven Hoof newsletter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's okay, not as good. That sounds like the

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Cloven Hoof sounds like, let's say the Satanists had their

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own city.

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Speaker 1: Also, not a Quino's title, It already exists.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm just saying like this sounds like a

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high school newspaper for Satanists.

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Speaker 1: As the years passed, Michael grew more and more frustrated

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with LaVey's policies. In May of nineteen seventy five, Equina

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was edited in an edition of The Cloven Hoof and

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read a draft article by Anton that made him do

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a bit of a double take, made him question what

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am I doing here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, the thing that already is problematic is that

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you know, Anton's over there in San Francisco talking a

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big game about Satanism. Michael's doing evil shit.

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Speaker 1: Yeah you're picking it up. Yeah, he's pretty much like

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Anton's not about this life. Yeah, he's not hard enough.

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Speaker 2: Anton hadn't been in those streets, in those jungles. I

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should say, like, Michael's like you think you know about Hell.

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I've been to Hill and I was king of it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he was just apocalypse now and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, and like what Anton's just like doing some

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heroin and and like being weird with other hippies that.

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Speaker 1: He's bringing to a bunch of right right now.

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Speaker 2: Granted to be fair to Anton, there's more than one

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way to sin. You know, it can't all be murder

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and death. There needs to be gluttony. You should have

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a fat guy just caught just stuffing his face to

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the point where he looks like the vampire from Blade.

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Speaker 1: And you need be like hr of a cult. You

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gotta fill every single role.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be sweet. Like, all right, now you're applying

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for the glutton position. How much would you say eating

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a day? Like you only like three thousand collars right now,

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but obviously open to like getting it higher than that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're only around three bills right now. We're gonna

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need five, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: A minimum five. Have you seen my one thousand pounds

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twins or whatever. We're gonna need you to look at

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least like that.

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Speaker 1: One of his biggest problems with the leader was that

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Anton was offered to sell ranks within.

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Speaker 2: The church, so he Martin luthering it kind of east

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the Martin Luther Satanism.

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Speaker 1: Equino knew money was tight, but he considered the sale

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of ranks dishonorable and corrupt.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Church of Satan, it's the Church of Satan. There

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should be rank corruption, corruption should move you forward. Yes, yeah,

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I don't think this is like the funniest part about

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this is that they're like they're like they it's like

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neither of them understand what like what they're supposed to be.

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Speaker 1: Well, the Church of Satan too, also doesn't really believe

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in Satan.

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Speaker 2: The current iteration that like does pro abortion and like

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like pro religious freedom.

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Speaker 1: Atheists and anything else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly, And they're just like using a loophole

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to like fuck with people. These guys sound like they

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were more like, fuck, what's that movie the one that

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everyone thinks is scary? Scary as fuck? Uh where the

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chick cuts her head off at the end and the

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sun becomes hereditary. Yes, yes, they need to be doing

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hereditary shit.

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Speaker 1: Well, in a Queno's eyes, Levey had always refused to

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believe in Satan as an actual supernatural being, and this

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undermined the true purpose of Satanism, or at least what

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Michael thought, and reinforced the reputation of the church as

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a farcical sideshow. He's like, if we don't believe in

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a real supernatural being that is Satan, what do we

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even doing?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, guys, what are we doing here? This isn't

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a I didn't think this was a joke when I

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just it's.

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Speaker 1: The Church of Satan.

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Speaker 2: I went to Vietnam and did a bunch of evil shit,

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and I was like, they're gonna be so proud of me.

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And I get back here and you're just hanging out

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jacking off in the living room.

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Speaker 1: So Quano left with many church members and priests to

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form his own religion. Quino said that the Great Rebel

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communicated to him that he no longer wished to be

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known by the Hebrew name Satan, but by his proper name.

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Speaker 2: Well only right, that Satan would hate Jews.

473
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Speaker 1: What do you think his proper name is. It's a

474
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historical figure, you know him, you love him. It's probably

475
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part of your fraternity.

476
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:14,799
Speaker 2: Uh what that threw me for? Loop?

477
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: Michael Kuano then establishes and sets up the Temple of Set.

478
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Speaker 2: Okay, we didn't do Set.

479
00:23:23,319 --> 00:23:27,400
Speaker 1: You guys, weren't Set guys. What do you guys do?

480
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Speaker 2: We didn't really have like any pharaoh name in the

481
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,000
whole thing. It was just like the house was called

482
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a pyramid, and they would be like Horus maybe, well, oh,

483
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:42,680
Cyrus is you know the goat. I guess yeah, Cyrus

484
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is like the head guy. He's like the Zeus or whatever.

485
00:23:45,839 --> 00:23:49,759
But uh, it was more just using like Egyptian terminology

486
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and there's like a thing like you cross the.

487
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Speaker 1: Dial and do you guys have a pilgrimage to Memphis?

488
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Speaker 2: We did go see the bass prow we did do

489
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our formals Memphis several years. Not every year, we'd do

490
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the Ozarks two. But yeah, we did go to Memphis

491
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several times.

492
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Speaker 1: Did you stay at the Bass Pro Shop?

493
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Speaker 2: I wish.

494
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Speaker 1: I think there's a hotel a top.

495
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Speaker 2: Fuck why didn't we? We've been thrown out, some wred

496
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have puked in the fish tank.

497
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Speaker 1: And they say America doesn't build anything anymore. I mean,

498
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it's beautiful we're gonna have obviously, I'm sorry. Who else

499
00:24:20,599 --> 00:24:23,720
is built like a recent pyramid besides the Bass Pro Shop?

500
00:24:23,799 --> 00:24:25,400
No one, even though I know it was a hockey

501
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,440
arena originally in Memphis. It's like a minor league cocky arena,

502
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but they just converted.

503
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, first off, the United States alone has

504
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built like what do you think the over under is

505
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:42,079
one hundred coliseums football stadiums.

506
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we haven't really built any new ones, not a ton.

507
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I mean obviously the ones in La.

508
00:24:48,079 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: Jerry World's pretty new. Not really it ten No, fifteen

509
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,039
years old. No, it's fifteen years old.

510
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Speaker 1: It's older than you think Jerry World was built.

511
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess twenty ten t nine.

512
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Speaker 1: Two thousand and nine. So we're going on sixteen, seventeen years. Yeah,

513
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,559
it's almost twenty years, two.

514
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 2: Decades time for a new one.

515
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Speaker 1: Most of these stadiums that were built early two thousands,

516
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like the link was I think two thousand and three

517
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:14,519
or four.

518
00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, same thing so far is new Mercedes Benz in Atlanta.

519
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:20,920
It's pretty new.

520
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,839
Speaker 1: So yeah, we got to build some more stuff we do.

521
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 2: I'm fair of that. And then that doesn't include like

522
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the baseball stadiums.

523
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Speaker 1: Instead of doing FDR's dumbass new deal, they should do

524
00:25:38,319 --> 00:25:41,480
like a public builds program for stadiums.

525
00:25:41,319 --> 00:25:43,119
Speaker 2: They already do, I mean the public base for them,

526
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I know.

527
00:25:43,519 --> 00:25:45,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, but let's get the let's get the jobs up,

528
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you know.

529
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Speaker 2: Okay, so yeah, now it's like now the county not

530
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,519
only pledges money, but they pledge their own citizens that

531
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build it.

532
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Speaker 1: It's like me, right, I'm unemployed right now, pick up

533
00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,079
a hammer.

534
00:25:58,839 --> 00:26:00,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, if we get a baseball team, you got to

535
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:01,640
start help building that.

536
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,759
Speaker 1: Then I would have a vested interest in the baseball

537
00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:07,359
team here. Yeah, it's like I built that. He didn't

538
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,240
build that. I built that.

539
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Part of this. They'll give you season tickets in the

540
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three hundred sections.

541
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Speaker 1: Maybe like six games a year. Yeah, Yeah, they'll sprinkle.

542
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,559
Speaker 2: It and it's like a bit of a time share

543
00:26:17,599 --> 00:26:18,440
season ticket.

544
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:24,319
Speaker 1: Situation for everybody involved. Yeah. Build So the Temple Set

545
00:26:24,319 --> 00:26:27,440
was born and registered as a nonprofit church in California

546
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:31,359
and received state and federal recognition and tax exemption the

547
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,559
very same year. So he knew how to play the system.

548
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:37,880
We should become, you know, a church, yeah, and tax exempt.

549
00:26:38,839 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: Why not?

550
00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: It's all bullshit anyway, softies, where are you at?

551
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:43,839
Speaker 2: Let's go.

552
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:46,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have a cult of personality.

553
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,279
Speaker 2: You have a following, probably more than he had.

554
00:26:50,119 --> 00:26:53,279
Speaker 1: Hard to say at first. Yeah, well it just ripped

555
00:26:53,319 --> 00:26:54,839
off a bunch of people from the church to Satan.

556
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: You're right, right, right, and he.

557
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,839
Speaker 1: Said, he left with like one hundred people.

558
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're better than that. We got that.

559
00:27:01,559 --> 00:27:05,119
Speaker 1: They eventually came to the conclusion. It was more like

560
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:05,680
twenty eight.

561
00:27:07,319 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 2: Of course it was.

562
00:27:09,079 --> 00:27:12,599
Speaker 1: Michael produced a religious text, the Book of Coming Forth

563
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,519
by Night, which he alleged had been revealed to him

564
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:18,400
by Set through a process of automatic writing.

565
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:20,599
Speaker 2: So Little Joseph Smith action.

566
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: Setians believe that Set is the one real God and

567
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:28,279
that he has aided humanity by giving them a questioning intellect.

568
00:27:28,599 --> 00:27:33,920
The Black Flame which distinguishes them from other animal species.

569
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Speaker 2: I do like the I mean it's good for the

570
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,519
Church of Satan to immediately have some some sort of

571
00:27:40,599 --> 00:27:42,400
like supremacy.

572
00:27:45,079 --> 00:27:46,519
Speaker 1: No, they're above the Church Satan.

573
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,519
Speaker 2: I know, well, the Church is set we either way,

574
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,160
like they're like, we are the chosen species.

575
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: He gave us intellect, which I guess everyone else is

576
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:55,000
an NPC.

577
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,039
Speaker 2: I guess. Actually that's really what all the major religions

578
00:27:58,039 --> 00:27:58,799
believe anyway.

579
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're all believing the same guy.

580
00:28:02,279 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 2: We're special Big three.

581
00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: I believe in this.

582
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're special little monkeys.

583
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:12,680
Speaker 1: The Father, Yeah, not necessarily the Son or the Holy Spirit.

584
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,839
Speaker 2: They believe in the prophet last son.

585
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: Is believes in Jesus.

586
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,079
Speaker 2: Yeah, Jesus.

587
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: I think he's the most quoted prophet in.

588
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,400
Speaker 2: He's their number two. He's number two. Yeah, he's supposed

589
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
to come back and behead everyone. I believe Jesus.

590
00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:30,559
Speaker 1: Yeah that's kind of sick.

591
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, with like a curvy sword almost certainly. Yeah, Gimitar

592
00:28:35,079 --> 00:28:35,799
or whatever they're called.

593
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: Do they think he was a little bit more hardcore

594
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than the Catholics lead.

595
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:43,759
Speaker 2: On apparently, Yeah, they don't, like they don't have soft

596
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:45,000
it's not soft Jesus.

597
00:28:45,039 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: The only story in the Qoran about Jesus is him

598
00:28:47,519 --> 00:28:48,240
at the temples.

599
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's really why they liked him. They're like,

600
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,960
he went in and just like fucked up Jewish money. Yeah,

601
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,039
hell yeah, this is our guy. He said something about

602
00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:00,480
like loving each other. No, I got it, just cut

603
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,079
that part out. He will have him cutting heads off.

604
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 1: Set is held in high esteem as a teacher whose

605
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,640
example is to be emulated, but he is not worshiped

606
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,519
as a deity.

607
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,039
Speaker 2: He's just one of the guys.

608
00:29:14,599 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: The temple promotes the idea that practitioners should seek self

609
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:22,559
deification and thus attain an immortality of consciousness.

610
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,079
Speaker 2: I think this guy's drawn a lot from his Mormon wife,

611
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,039
kind of you will become your own God.

612
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 1: Now that you say it, I'm kind of seeing the

613
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,039
influence of the Mormon wife.

614
00:29:34,119 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 2: She was the secret one there.

615
00:29:35,279 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: Yeah.

616
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: I do like it, though, that is very like satanic

617
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:43,519
and like like the narcissistic, like selfish part of it.

618
00:29:43,759 --> 00:29:45,039
Speaker 1: There is no God, You're the guy.

619
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's that's on brand. I love it.

620
00:29:48,319 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 1: Kind of reminds me when I worked for a few

621
00:29:50,519 --> 00:29:55,839
days for a charity that worked, you know, on the

622
00:29:55,880 --> 00:30:01,559
sidewalks of Lamar. Yeah, every morning before we went out

623
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,279
and just like begged people to save the children.

624
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: And it wasn't one of that. Wasn't that one of

625
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,279
those charities where it's like could you spare a few

626
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:09,920
dollars and you're like, yeah, I don't know, here's four

627
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,359
dollars and they're like, oh, actually, we'd like you to

628
00:30:11,359 --> 00:30:14,160
sign a subscription and you're like, fuck off.

629
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,039
Speaker 1: So you can't do a one time donation. So you

630
00:30:16,039 --> 00:30:19,519
have to get these people to sign up as they're

631
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:23,000
walking about their busy day on an iPad for a

632
00:30:23,079 --> 00:30:24,079
year long subscription.

633
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're like, get the fuck away from me.

634
00:30:26,599 --> 00:30:27,960
I can already tell this isn't real.

635
00:30:28,039 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 1: And the people that did it the most were the

636
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,400
ones that could never afford it.

637
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: I'm sure, I'm sure. And there was no way that

638
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,960
that money went to anywhere useful.

639
00:30:38,519 --> 00:30:42,720
Speaker 1: They were tricking some dumb dumbs into, you know, a

640
00:30:42,839 --> 00:30:45,920
monthly hit on their bank account, and.

641
00:30:46,079 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: They were there every day. You said you were on Lamar.

642
00:30:48,039 --> 00:30:50,440
But I worked downtown in Austin for like a year

643
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,559
and a half. Every fucking day when I would go

644
00:30:53,599 --> 00:30:55,680
to get my coffee or like if I didn't bring

645
00:30:55,759 --> 00:30:58,319
lunch and had to go to like just grab lunch

646
00:30:58,359 --> 00:31:03,160
real quick somewhere three different times every block. I fucking

647
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:03,720
hated them.

648
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,559
Speaker 1: Not to mention, I don't think like any of the

649
00:31:05,599 --> 00:31:06,680
money goes to the.

650
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 2: No, it's clearly bullshit.

651
00:31:08,279 --> 00:31:13,519
Speaker 1: It's it's all just paying their salaries or their hourlies.

652
00:31:13,319 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 2: And like the salaries of the people in charge of

653
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,839
the nonsense. Oh my god, this.

654
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:18,839
Speaker 1: Is a little scam.

655
00:31:19,039 --> 00:31:21,519
Speaker 2: If someone was like a like I heard. If I

656
00:31:21,519 --> 00:31:24,279
read about a car ramming into a pedestrian in South

657
00:31:24,319 --> 00:31:27,319
Austin or in downtown Austin and it was one of them,

658
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,839
I would be less sad that if it was an

659
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:31,920
honest human being.

660
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: Setians believe in the existence of magic as a force

661
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,119
which can be manipulated through ritual.

662
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:39,359
Speaker 2: Well.

663
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah. Following initiation into the temple, a Setian can proceed

664
00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,960
along a series of six degrees, each of which requires

665
00:31:49,039 --> 00:31:52,839
greater responsibilities to the group. As a result, most members

666
00:31:53,119 --> 00:31:56,839
remain in the first two degrees, governed by a high

667
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,319
priest or priestess and a wider council of nine. The

668
00:32:00,359 --> 00:32:04,759
temple is also divided into groups known as pylons, through

669
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:08,440
which Setiens can meet or correspond in order to advance

670
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:14,759
their magical work in that particular area. Michael's Book of

671
00:32:14,839 --> 00:32:18,480
Coming forth by Night makes reference to the Book of Law,

672
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:23,279
which is the text produced by the occultist Alistair Crowley

673
00:32:23,519 --> 00:32:27,559
in nineteen oh four, which provided the basis of Crowley's religion.

674
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:28,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, play the hits.

675
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,599
Speaker 1: Michael presented himself as Crowley's Air.

676
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:38,359
Speaker 2: Okay, I like that. That's that's a good person to invoke, right,

677
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,559
I mean, Jesus invoked, being of the House of David.

678
00:32:42,599 --> 00:32:45,039
Speaker 1: He was also pretty big back then, Crowley.

679
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: That doesn't surprise me. All the weird fucking shit.

680
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:51,799
Speaker 1: It's the sixties, right, Yeah, Yeah, sixties, seventies, yeah, eighties.

681
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,119
I mean, Ozzie has an entire song named Miss de

682
00:32:55,319 --> 00:33:00,960
Crab right, and I believe like the Beatles were allegedly

683
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:04,720
influenced by Crowley. Pretty much any British person.

684
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 2: They the Beatles, you know that flame burned, bright and quit.

685
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,960
They probably had twenty different religions from the span of

686
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,519
like sixty seven to sixty nine.

687
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:19,519
Speaker 1: In the nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighties, he was

688
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:24,759
also a part time NATO liaison officer in several European countries.

689
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: Oh good. He's still still in the military.

690
00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:28,319
Speaker 1: He's in the military the entire time.

691
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:29,279
Speaker 2: Perfect. Perfect.

692
00:33:30,319 --> 00:33:33,279
Speaker 1: While off duty on one of these tours, he visited

693
00:33:35,079 --> 00:33:37,759
a castle in Germany that was used by the SS

694
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:38,960
and Heinrich Himmler.

695
00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,799
Speaker 2: Great, I mean, Nazi seems like a logical step for

696
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,759
your evil church.

697
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 1: Aquino stated that his interest in Nazism was academic.

698
00:33:49,880 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 2: Don't they all, don't they all? That's how it always starts.

699
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,759
I'm just a wait, that's a whole scene from Succession, right.

700
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,240
I was like, if you read a decision as you

701
00:34:00,279 --> 00:34:02,880
read by a uh yeah, a couple times.

702
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 1: A couple of things you missed.

703
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 2: Why, Yeah, I just interested in the time period. Sure. Sure.

704
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: Many members of the Temple Set voiced their opposition to

705
00:34:15,559 --> 00:34:19,719
Michael's position on both Nazism and power within his own

706
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:24,840
church and relinquished him as high priest in nineteen seventy nine.

707
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:28,039
To Ronald Keith Barrett, he.

708
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,559
Speaker 2: Got canceled in the Church of Satan and his Church

709
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,519
Set church as Set Temple Set, and his cancelable offense

710
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,880
was being too interested in the Nazis. These people can't

711
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,639
get anything right.

712
00:34:40,519 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: It was more a power thing, okay, like we don't

713
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:46,599
really care for what you think of yourself. Yeah, about

714
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,000
religion where you're supposed to be God. We don't like

715
00:34:49,039 --> 00:34:49,800
that you think you're God.

716
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 2: Right, we thought that we're all supposed to be God's here.

717
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:56,320
What's going on? Start trading me like God? I'm always

718
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,480
blowing you at the orgy.

719
00:34:58,199 --> 00:35:02,519
Speaker 1: Barrett's leadership was also criticized as authoritarian, resulting in a

720
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:06,199
decline in the temple's membership. Barrett resigned his office and

721
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:09,880
severed ties with the organization in May of nineteen eighty two.

722
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,679
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is this is like modern times.

723
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,559
At this point, I'm four years away from being born.

724
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: And started the Temple of Anubis.

725
00:35:18,519 --> 00:35:21,079
Speaker 2: Oh God, I think he should have gone to a

726
00:35:21,079 --> 00:35:24,119
different country like ancient religion. At that point.

727
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,599
Speaker 1: Guess who slides right back in as high priest our

728
00:35:28,679 --> 00:35:30,280
boy Michael Kuana.

729
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have gone, Look, you already did the

730
00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,559
egypt thing. Go Hades this time?

731
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,119
Speaker 1: Really cover your basis?

732
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 2: Yeah? Or not? Hades? What's the uh? Who's the Greek

733
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,360
god of the underworld? If he governs Hades or whatever

734
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,880
James Woods played him in Hercules.

735
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: I think it's just Hades.

736
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 2: It is Hades, Okay, Okay, it is Hades, but they

737
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:57,880
also call it Haiti. I don't know, whatever, doesn't matter. Yeah,

738
00:35:57,880 --> 00:35:58,639
should have gone Hades.

739
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: He also arrives back in San Francisco in nineteen eighty,

740
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:07,199
where he served as an active guard reserve and taught

741
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:12,719
at Golden Gate University. Well, you gotta inspire the youth.

742
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:17,639
Speaker 2: A West Coast university is gonna take all sorts. I mean,

743
00:36:17,679 --> 00:36:19,920
they're just always into weird shit. That's one of my

744
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,159
favorite parts of the movie Oppenheimer is that like all

745
00:36:24,199 --> 00:36:27,480
of his friends are fucking communists, like all of them.

746
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,039
Speaker 1: And he's always just like, yeah, I'm at the parties.

747
00:36:30,239 --> 00:36:34,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's really there for the pussy. He's literally really

748
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:35,239
there for the pussy.

749
00:36:36,159 --> 00:36:39,960
Speaker 1: Florence Pugh. I'm not gonna thruw stones at Oppenheimer.

750
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 2: Look, Iowa, with Florence Pugh's taking her shirt off, I'm

751
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,760
gonna start questioning all sorts of economic systems to keep

752
00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,440
the shirt off.

753
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,320
Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty one, he was a reserve attache at

754
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:57,920
the Defensive Intelligence Agency and then entered the Florence Service

755
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,480
Institute as a student on behalf of the US Department

756
00:37:00,519 --> 00:37:03,760
of the State. So he keeps moving up the fucking ranks,

757
00:37:04,599 --> 00:37:07,719
but also leads a cult.

758
00:37:07,639 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 2: Just on the side. How does he have time?

759
00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, You're like, I feel.

760
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,199
Speaker 2: Just overwhelmed, and it's like I gotta send four emails.

761
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,159
Speaker 1: This is almost inspiring. Yeah, this guy started his own church.

762
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,480
But also, you know, never let that get in the way.

763
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:26,679
His passion's never gotten the way of his work.

764
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,480
Speaker 2: But and you know what too, though, just less distractions.

765
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:35,039
You got like six TV channels, no phone. He probably

766
00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:37,800
didn't have a lot of friends. I mean basically the

767
00:37:38,199 --> 00:37:42,440
temple is set was probably his social life and his wife. Yeah.

768
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 1: So prior to entering his doctoral program, how he briefly

769
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:53,239
worked at Merrill Lynch and obtained his license to trade

770
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,559
securities on the New York Stock Exchange. Oh boy, so

771
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:01,280
you really can throw everything in. This guy anks a

772
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:08,199
military We've already talked about. The Jews just really hit

773
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:09,159
all SEO.

774
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 2: Notes, Oh my god, every single one.

775
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: Michael attracted greater publicity for his temple through appearances on

776
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,360
television talk shows like Oprah Winfrey and Geraldo.

777
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 2: He was on Oprah. That was back when Oprah had

778
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,400
to have freaks on too.

779
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was on Oprah with his wife, people forget

780
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:29,800
and some dude in the crowd was like asking Michael

781
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,559
a question. I saw a clip of this and he

782
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:35,440
was talking about his backstory in the Church of Satan

783
00:38:35,639 --> 00:38:38,320
and how he killed a guy. I'm like, did he

784
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:39,440
just admit that on TV?

785
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,119
Speaker 2: He's full of shit. I mean, he's probably killed people.

786
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,039
Speaker 1: But it was just a random guy asking a Quano.

787
00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, the random guy.

788
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, it wasn't a Quano say anything.

789
00:38:51,199 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, it was this.

790
00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: Random audience member was like, I used to be in

791
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,679
the Church of Satan. I didn't know who this guy was,

792
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,840
but we all killed him and I to the authorities

793
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,320
after and like there was this whole investigation, but the

794
00:39:03,360 --> 00:39:06,840
church has hatan then threat my life, my family's live. Yeah,

795
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,039
and he kept going on. But I don't think Oprah

796
00:39:09,199 --> 00:39:09,840
expected that.

797
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:11,159
Speaker 2: What was Oprah Like?

798
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: She was just blown away. I didn't really have a ton.

799
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oprah used to just be Sally Jesse, Raphael Or

800
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,559
or Maury Povich. That's how she got her start.

801
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. Also, if you knew what Michael Aquana looked like

802
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:29,360
in this interview, it's hilarious. I'll show you a photo right.

803
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 2: Now, you please do Oh? Yeah, I forgot you told

804
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,280
me earlier that Eddie Munster and the eyebrows and all

805
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:38,400
that shit. Good lord, who was following this man, who

806
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,800
was hiring him?

807
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,320
Speaker 1: How is he still in the military, How.

808
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 2: Does he have a job?

809
00:39:42,039 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: How like that?

810
00:39:43,079 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 2: Yeah?

811
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: Like literally Eddie monster, right, yeah, with the hair fucked.

812
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:53,679
In November nineteen eighty six, this is when things start

813
00:39:53,679 --> 00:39:58,920
to go south. Okay, satanic panic, Okay, hot in the streets. Yeah,

814
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,840
the sam Francisco police begin to investigate allegations of sexual

815
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,719
abuse in connection with the Army's child development center at

816
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:12,000
the Presido of San Francisco. A girl came forward in

817
00:40:12,039 --> 00:40:16,440
August nineteen eighty seven and identified Aquano as the culprit.

818
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,800
At least fifty eight out of one hundred children who

819
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,280
attended the daycare center showed physical and the mental signs

820
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,239
of sexual abuse.

821
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: But what center the daycare? How old are these kids?

822
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:33,559
Speaker 1: They're young?

823
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 2: Good lord, I mean he looks like a child molester.

824
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:42,119
Speaker 1: So leading into a lawsuit by the parents for sixty

825
00:40:42,159 --> 00:40:43,760
million in damages.

826
00:40:43,519 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: To what are they seeing the government?

827
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:51,039
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's a daycare center for the military. Yeah, yeah,

828
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,599
So it's like, fellow soldier.

829
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 2: Get right, whose kids are just getting molested wholesale.

830
00:40:57,559 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: I guess. Allegedly, fifty eight of the thousand had as

831
00:41:02,559 --> 00:41:07,480
Jesus Christ, and they claimed that they were being taken

832
00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:11,400
to some type of like rituals by Aquano.

833
00:41:11,559 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 2: Yeah sure, yeah, well he's nailing the Satan part.

834
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:23,039
Speaker 1: Police raided aquanos home. However, insufficient evidence was found to

835
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:26,599
support the allegations, and it was revealed that Aquano was

836
00:41:26,639 --> 00:41:29,159
living in DC at the time of the alleged abuse,

837
00:41:29,679 --> 00:41:31,519
so the police dropped the phony charges.

838
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean that's good alibi. But I'm sure the

839
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,119
parents were still like, my five year old has chlamytee.

840
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,400
Speaker 1: Has gone rhea? Still, how does that happen?

841
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:46,039
Speaker 2: Somebody put it there.

842
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:53,199
Speaker 1: Although no charges were filed, the board ended Aquano's full

843
00:41:53,199 --> 00:41:56,760
time active Guard reserve contract in nineteen ninety and he

844
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:03,199
was transferred to Saint Louis. All right, sounds like a

845
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,360
church cover up the yeah, just move parishes.

846
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,159
Speaker 2: Oh wait, oh mister Aquino, yeah, I remember him.

847
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 1: There was also rumored connections of Michael and the Church

848
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:17,719
of Set being connected to the disappearance of a paper

849
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:22,320
boy Johnny Gosh in nineteen eighty two, but no real

850
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,559
evidence ever supported that.

851
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:24,679
Speaker 2: Yeah.

852
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,639
Speaker 1: So there was a couple of yeah, weird things with

853
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:27,440
his church with.

854
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:32,639
Speaker 2: Kids, and you know, they were literally telling everyone they

855
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:36,920
were in evil church. So that's evidence.

856
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: I don't know if they ever said they were evil.

857
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:40,599
Speaker 2: I guess.

858
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:44,679
Speaker 1: You're confused in Satan with evil. I don't think they

859
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,679
have an opinion of Satan being evil.

860
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:51,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, but yeah, all right, fair enough. But

861
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,400
I'll say this, if they all think that they are gods,

862
00:42:56,719 --> 00:43:01,039
then they might decide to do God stuff, which is

863
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:05,079
whatever they want. Yeah, at any time to anyone.

864
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: Nineteen ninety four, Coino retired from active services in the Army,

865
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:16,280
being honorably transferred to the Retired Reserve and awarded the

866
00:43:16,519 --> 00:43:18,039
Meritorious Service Medal.

867
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,880
Speaker 2: Okay, so, good job, you're a good soldier.

868
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,199
Speaker 1: I mean he was fucking in it for a while.

869
00:43:26,119 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 2: Dude, Yes, for thirty years. Yeah.

870
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,280
Speaker 1: Although he had stepped down as high Priest of the

871
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,440
Temple Set in nineteen ninety six, he returned to the

872
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:38,000
role briefly from two thousand and two to two thousand

873
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,000
and four, and he remained a prominent figure within the

874
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:47,639
organization as a priest have Set until his death, which

875
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,119
came in September of twenty nineteen, at the age of

876
00:43:51,159 --> 00:43:54,280
seventy two. Wow, we lost him just right before COVID.

877
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, just lost just just makes you think, makes you think,

878
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:01,480
last act, what.

879
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:02,559
Speaker 1: If he released the virus?

880
00:44:02,679 --> 00:44:05,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did it.

881
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 1: He did. COVID September of twenty nineteen started popping off

882
00:44:09,559 --> 00:44:17,719
in Asia around that time, right October October memory huh huh,

883
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:18,880
just connecting to os.

884
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: Guys, Ye, just asking questions.

885
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:29,719
Speaker 1: While the Satanic ritual abuse declined, Quano continued to be

886
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,239
a figure of prominence in mind control conspiracy theories because

887
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:36,400
of his long career as a psychological warfare officer in

888
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,880
the US Army. So there's a lot of people that

889
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:42,519
kind of connect him with any type of sy op

890
00:44:42,599 --> 00:44:45,760
that goes on. Yeah, that's pretty fairy.

891
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:46,840
Speaker 2: I mean he was doing it.

892
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,719
Speaker 1: He was doing it, or at least had some type

893
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,119
of connection. Maybe he wrote the playbook for him.

894
00:44:53,039 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 2: Right, and then everyone else just just took it from there. Yeah.

895
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:00,320
I kind of want to just like he die in

896
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:00,880
Saint Louis.

897
00:45:01,199 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so, Okay, you don't die in Saint Louis,

898
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:07,840
moved to Saint Louis and you try to find another

899
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:08,239
way out.

900
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair, Yeah, I don't just says he died, Damn.

901
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:12,800
I want to know.

902
00:45:13,639 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: And that is the church where the Temple of Set

903
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:18,440
and Michael Aquino.

904
00:45:19,519 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: Satan's high Priest, Well Set Well Satan and then Set.

905
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,039
Speaker 1: Not really super consistent.

906
00:45:27,199 --> 00:45:29,679
Speaker 2: No, but they're figuring things out. You think early Christianity

907
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:33,159
was super consistent all over the map. The Gnostics were

908
00:45:33,159 --> 00:45:34,920
weirdo yeah, all over the map.

909
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:38,119
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Nastics better though, I might.

910
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:40,639
Speaker 2: I believe we did a whole episode on him with Jake.

911
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,599
Speaker 1: I want to go full of Gnostic all right, dude,

912
00:45:42,679 --> 00:45:44,840
But how many different variations are there.

913
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 2: Of NaSTA infinite? Yeah? It was like every little weird

914
00:45:49,519 --> 00:45:52,559
secluded community was kind of its own thing to some extent.

915
00:45:52,800 --> 00:46:03,519
I think, would you learn today? I earned I learned

916
00:46:03,519 --> 00:46:08,719
that Uh, Satanists really value the wrong things like honor.

917
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: Dude. I'm telling you the Church of Satan now is

918
00:46:14,159 --> 00:46:16,480
not what you think I know now, But this is

919
00:46:16,519 --> 00:46:17,559
that I think then too.

920
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:18,679
Speaker 2: Clearly.

921
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: I think Anton was more about just chilling.

922
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they were. It sounded like a lot

923
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,239
of them were just there to do drugs and bang.

924
00:46:26,360 --> 00:46:29,119
Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like that yeah, yeah, hopefully of

925
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:29,760
age people.

926
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,400
Speaker 2: One would hope, but it was the sixties in San Francisco,

927
00:46:33,519 --> 00:46:37,840
so one does not believe you have. If anything, though,

928
00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:41,280
this tells me that it's like it's almost like anti

929
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,719
it's like a disapproval of conspiracy theories in a lot

930
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,440
of ways, just because like disagree. The government just like

931
00:46:48,519 --> 00:46:50,559
didn't even pay attention. They were just like, I guess

932
00:46:50,599 --> 00:46:52,639
this guy, like they weren't even like looking.

933
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: At it might be a good distraction. They also might

934
00:46:56,719 --> 00:47:00,719
think it's a psychological warfare. Op. Yeah, maybe he's getting

935
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,000
said some dirt on people.

936
00:47:02,039 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 2: I was just wonder how many people like left the

937
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:07,400
Psyops division. They're like, oh my god, those fucking guys

938
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,800
at PSYOPS. Like, yeah, I know, man, but it's just

939
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,000
a whole different, whole different group over there. They're they're

940
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their own fucking thing. Man.

941
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't really fuck with them.

942
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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want to spend a lot of time.

943
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You go, you drop off the memo, You just get

944
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out of there, you get.

945
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:26,199
Speaker 1: Out, went over did satanic rituals that then Heinrich Himler's

946
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:34,840
spot right, purely academic, just really about the education of

947
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:35,159
it all.

948
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 2: I was just there to learn. What's wrong with learning?

949
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:42,039
You don't know what conclusions I was drawing?

950
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:43,280
Speaker 1: You want a white history away?

951
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was just I was just there. Okay, Now

952
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,119
I have my own conclusions. Might be a different your conclusions,

953
00:47:50,159 --> 00:47:50,920
but we're all different.

954
00:47:51,519 --> 00:47:53,639
Speaker 1: So but I'm a little bit more educated on the manner.

955
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:57,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, so if I think that maybe they're a little sweet,

956
00:47:58,159 --> 00:48:00,639
maybe I've read more than you and that's why I

957
00:48:00,639 --> 00:48:01,039
think that.

958
00:48:01,199 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: Look, the uniforms were sharp.

959
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: No one's denying that. No one's ever denying that. Say

960
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:12,960
you want, but they.

961
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: Dressed well, who's today's hitler?

962
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:24,599
Speaker 2: Uh, that's a toughie. No one was really like horrible.

963
00:48:24,719 --> 00:48:29,800
Everyone was weird, at least on the record.

964
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:30,039
Speaker 1: Yeah.

965
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess whoever molested those kids and gave them

966
00:48:33,760 --> 00:48:36,920
the kids I got like STDs. Yeah, I mean someone did.

967
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,239
Speaker 1: Someone did They described ritual ceremonies that they were a

968
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:42,559
part of.

969
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 2: Yeah.

970
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: Now, everything I said with the child stuff for Aquanos alleged,

971
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,000
I don't want to get sued by his estate or family.

972
00:48:49,639 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 2: The temple is set.

973
00:48:50,599 --> 00:48:53,880
Speaker 1: Temple set. But man, there's a lot of smoke there.

974
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, maybe he didn't do it. If he

975
00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:59,559
was actually in DC the whole time, but it seems

976
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:01,039
like he was connected to it.

977
00:49:01,559 --> 00:49:04,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, if your church does it and you're the leader

978
00:49:04,599 --> 00:49:07,920
of the church, still on you.

979
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:11,559
Speaker 2: No, Pope John Paul is a saint. He's the same.

980
00:49:11,639 --> 00:49:14,039
Speaker 1: I mean he literally is the say right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

981
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:16,079
I believe so. Actually, no, I think the time has

982
00:49:16,119 --> 00:49:16,480
to pass.

983
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 2: No, he's been venerated.

984
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: Oh did he got expedited?

985
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he got the fast pass.

986
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:27,119
Speaker 1: Can we revoke that? I think there's a lot.

987
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 2: Of No, we're dumping We dump it all on Benedict.

988
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's the fall guy. Yeah, certainly, that's why you retired.

989
00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:35,679
Speaker 2: The Nazi pope is the one we dumped it all on.

990
00:49:36,599 --> 00:49:37,199
Speaker 1: Is the target?

991
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: Yep, yep.

992
00:49:38,679 --> 00:49:43,079
Speaker 1: John Paul bad guy, though also a legedly Mother Teresa

993
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:44,360
bad lady.

994
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,559
Speaker 2: Oh that's an old one.

995
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 1: But with the child stuff too.

996
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: Oh I've heard that. But I know, like there's a

997
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,599
lot of people who were like she purposefully didn't give

998
00:49:52,639 --> 00:49:56,280
them medicine, was doing like a basically the Catholic version

999
00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,719
of you know, essential oils, but with rosaries or something.

1000
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,079
Speaker 1: I should do an episode where he exposed Mother Teresa.

1001
00:50:03,079 --> 00:50:05,679
Speaker 2: That's all you expose her. She's a Saint too. I

1002
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:06,840
believe God.

1003
00:50:06,679 --> 00:50:09,800
Speaker 1: Damn it, we had to pull some of these people

1004
00:50:09,840 --> 00:50:11,320
out like the Hall of Fame.

1005
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,800
Speaker 2: These two wouldn't even be in the top one hundred

1006
00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:16,719
worst saints in history.

1007
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:19,880
Speaker 1: We know you hate the dog.

1008
00:50:20,679 --> 00:50:23,159
Speaker 2: The dog wasn't even a real saint. I'm talking like

1009
00:50:23,199 --> 00:50:27,440
Saint Olga or honestly, I feel like Saint Louis probably.

1010
00:50:27,199 --> 00:50:29,159
Speaker 1: Viking the broad Catholicism.

1011
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there's any king, any king that is a saint,

1012
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:35,480
probably a bad guy.

1013
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,440
Speaker 1: Any interest in the temple set Nah?

1014
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:39,119
Speaker 2: Not really.

1015
00:50:39,159 --> 00:50:41,199
Speaker 1: You want to raise your kids to be Setnians.

1016
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,559
Speaker 2: Oh they're already big enough, Dix.

1017
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 1: You're you gonna raise them to be what are you

1018
00:50:48,159 --> 00:50:49,119
a Delta Sig?

1019
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: Yeah? If they want to be, they want to join

1020
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:56,119
del Sig. I won't really push them into it. Like

1021
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:57,800
I hope they don't have training when they're in college

1022
00:50:57,840 --> 00:50:59,960
if they go to like a big state school. But uh,

1023
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,840
if they go to like a fucking smaller school.

1024
00:51:02,679 --> 00:51:04,119
Speaker 1: We're thinking about it. I wonder if we have any

1025
00:51:04,119 --> 00:51:05,760
connection to Bohemian Grove.

1026
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably your little Fiji internship.

1027
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 1: Our mascot is an owl, Okay, so yes, it's a

1028
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,599
snowy white owl. Yeah, so probably we free Mason connections.

1029
00:51:16,639 --> 00:51:17,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, damn it.

1030
00:51:17,679 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I just never got invited to be

1031
00:51:20,039 --> 00:51:23,400
a free Mason. I didn't make the cut. No, it's

1032
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:26,800
like maybe like the fraternity Fiji is a tryout.

1033
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,400
Speaker 2: Because that, Yeah, you weren't taking it seriously enough.

1034
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: It's the minor leagues. I didn't get called up that.

1035
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like he keeps stacking guys on top of him

1036
00:51:34,199 --> 00:51:36,159
and like hitting people in the dick on the way in,

1037
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:40,559
like he's not beheming. Yeah, he's not beheming growth material.

1038
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:44,360
Speaker 1: Damn I'll have to sneak in like Alex.

1039
00:51:44,199 --> 00:51:47,559
Speaker 2: Jones yep, which I'm sure he did.

1040
00:51:48,159 --> 00:51:50,079
Speaker 1: No, he did. He's the one that broke the Bohemian

1041
00:51:50,119 --> 00:51:54,280
growth news. All right, get caught up, dude, it's been

1042
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:59,039
right this whole time. No, well, you can keep living blindly.

1043
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:02,079
Speaker 2: Yeah. I just walk around whistling the Andy Griffith theme having

1044
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:02,760
a great time.

1045
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,639
Speaker 1: Sure you are, and you're really just trying to drown

1046
00:52:08,679 --> 00:52:09,880
out the noise of your children.

1047
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,199
Speaker 2: That's all. Like it's like, could did you hear about

1048
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,480
the elite pedophile ring that meets a Dubai It's like, dude,

1049
00:52:16,519 --> 00:52:19,239
I my fucking kids are going crazy right now. I

1050
00:52:19,239 --> 00:52:21,800
don't have time. Are they molesting my kids? Are they

1051
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:22,920
molesting my kids?

1052
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 1: No?

1053
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 2: Then I just don't have time for it. That's my stays.

1054
00:52:28,639 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 1: Okay, ah boy. Anyway, check us out on Patreon, Patreon

1055
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:37,679
dot com. Slash Software history two editional episodes every week

1056
00:52:37,880 --> 00:52:40,880
that drop on Wednesday and Friday. On the lower tier,

1057
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,360
we also do a sports show. Uh. For the higher tier,

1058
00:52:45,639 --> 00:52:47,679
it's that middle tier, and then we have a higher

1059
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,000
higher tier that nobody's a part of, but we just

1060
00:52:50,039 --> 00:52:52,840
have as a joke because somebody signed up once, yeah,

1061
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,800
and we got them maybe forgot for a minute, for

1062
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,239
a minute, and then they got rid of it.

1063
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:00,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the one day they're accounting was like, uh,

1064
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:01,559
explain this.

1065
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: Why are you paying them this much more?

1066
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,559
Speaker 2: They're like, I can't delete it.

1067
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,880
Speaker 1: So lower two tiers are the legit ones. If you're

1068
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,679
feeling generous enough, Yeah, hit that high tier. Excommunicated by

1069
00:53:11,719 --> 00:53:13,079
the Pope is what it's called.

1070
00:53:13,159 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: Oh hell yeah, which we did do an episode that

1071
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,280
technically should have gotten this ex community and.

1072
00:53:18,199 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 1: Technically you get to pick the theme of the episode

1073
00:53:20,519 --> 00:53:23,280
for a month. So if you joined that.

1074
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:25,079
Speaker 2: Too, oh yeah, you know, you get to be an editor,

1075
00:53:27,159 --> 00:53:27,440
so you.

1076
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: Get to choose the topic. We'll cover it and you

1077
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:35,679
help support us. Check out YouTube software history on YouTube.

1078
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:41,239
We're past ten point five now. We're growing slowly but surely. Yeah,

1079
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,239
we have some more sketches come in. Last bookstore sketch

1080
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:47,000
of this last.

1081
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 2: Batch a batch too.

1082
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna drop that Tuesday. I'm done with that

1083
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,480
on all platforms. To drop Tuesday.

1084
00:53:54,119 --> 00:53:54,639
Speaker 2: Works for me.

1085
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: I haven't done it yet. Yeah, we're recording this on

1086
00:53:57,920 --> 00:53:58,559
a Sunday night.

1087
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,599
Speaker 2: It's fine, don't to push it. I think it's a

1088
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:02,039
good one.

1089
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:03,599
Speaker 1: I think it's one of the better ones.

1090
00:54:03,599 --> 00:54:04,320
Speaker 2: It's a Jack one.

1091
00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 1: It's with Jack and your lovely wife, my lovely wife. Yeah,

1092
00:54:08,039 --> 00:54:10,960
there's a threesome. Spit roasted your wife with Jack.

1093
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, me and Jack when we were on either side

1094
00:54:13,679 --> 00:54:13,920
of her.

1095
00:54:15,599 --> 00:54:16,639
Speaker 1: She's getting from both ends.

1096
00:54:16,719 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, she really is. So check it out. Check out

1097
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,000
my wife getting it from both ends from me and

1098
00:54:21,079 --> 00:54:25,320
Jack on Tuesday on Jack Maniville, Instagram and YouTube. And

1099
00:54:25,519 --> 00:54:26,400
I guess TikTok.

1100
00:54:28,159 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't even care about TikTok.

1101
00:54:29,320 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I still post it there, but yeah, it's.

1102
00:54:31,679 --> 00:54:33,880
Speaker 1: You can find us individually on Instagram too, if you

1103
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,519
want to follow us. I don't really post anything of

1104
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:37,920
interest out there than our stuff.

1105
00:54:38,039 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you can still.

1106
00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:42,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, just get my account out, Just check it out. Yeah,

1107
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,280
leave review I five stars pleasing? Thank you Apple and Spotify. Uh,

1108
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,559
still trying to work out this transition to our RSS feed,

1109
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,360
So video on Spotify will be coming soon, just not yet. Yeah,

1110
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,639
we're dealing with some annoying shit right now with an

1111
00:54:57,679 --> 00:54:59,239
old host with.

1112
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,199
Speaker 2: The current host platform, which I won't hold totally tuckshit

1113
00:55:03,280 --> 00:55:06,880
on yet, but if things get annoying, I'm not going

1114
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,599
to have kind words about them.

1115
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:14,559
Speaker 1: No anyway, I love you, guess for our Fox. I'm damnagester.

1116
00:55:14,599 --> 00:55:15,480
You just got sauce served