WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.160 --> 00:00:04.280 It seems to be a big foot leaning against a 2 00:00:04.400 --> 00:00:07.320 tree in a wooded area. I have seen plenty of 3 00:00:07.320 --> 00:00:10.880 people with big feet, but not bigfoot tree minds and brush. 4 00:00:11.199 --> 00:00:13.560 He see's about seven and seven and a half foot tall, 5 00:00:14.119 --> 00:00:17.039 sasquatch looking back at it. Make these stories for what 6 00:00:17.079 --> 00:00:19.839 they are in hopes that maybe, like, if it's out there, 7 00:00:19.839 --> 00:00:22.199 then't show me. Yeah, it's like a grunt and a knock. 8 00:00:22.239 --> 00:00:24.879 It's like a oh. I think there's kind of a 9 00:00:24.920 --> 00:00:27.399 cultural tendency for people to want to make Bigfoot a 10 00:00:27.480 --> 00:00:36.600 quote unquote monster. Welcome to ECBRO Bigfoot Radio. All right, 11 00:00:37.439 --> 00:00:41.560 welcome back for the year twenty twenty five. Today for 12 00:00:41.600 --> 00:00:44.320 the first our first guest into the new year on 13 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:48.719 the New Year's Day, He's no stranger to the bigfoot world. 14 00:00:49.079 --> 00:00:50.719 Ladies and gentlemen. We're not going to beat around the 15 00:00:50.719 --> 00:00:55.560 bush because right now we got mister Ron House, aka 16 00:00:56.159 --> 00:00:59.920 Biker Bigfoot Air Force veteran, and I'm glad to have 17 00:01:00.079 --> 00:01:03.039 them with us. We're gonna talk to Bigfoot today. And 18 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:06.680 if you don't know Ron House, if you have not 19 00:01:06.879 --> 00:01:12.120 met Ron House, he is Bigfoot himself. But let's not 20 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.799 delay any further. Ron House, thank you for coming on 21 00:01:15.959 --> 00:01:20.680 ECVR Bigfoot Radio. How are you doing today? I'm doing great, brother, 22 00:01:20.760 --> 00:01:27.480 How are you doing? Oh I'm actually I'm just fabulous. 23 00:01:29.239 --> 00:01:33.200 You know, tell you what twenty twenty four has been. 24 00:01:34.000 --> 00:01:36.079 I guess you could say it's been quite the adventure 25 00:01:36.120 --> 00:01:38.519 with a lot of ups and downs. And I think 26 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.480 I can Yeah, I think a lot of us could 27 00:01:41.799 --> 00:01:48.000 relate to that. So definitely relate with that. Absolutely on 28 00:01:48.159 --> 00:01:51.519 the roller coaster of adventure. Oh for sure. 29 00:01:53.640 --> 00:01:57.239 I don't know even where to begin, I think, I mean, 30 00:01:57.319 --> 00:01:59.840 you know, yeah, I mean we could go back to 31 00:01:59.879 --> 00:02:05.280 the beginning and you know when we first started, like, well, 32 00:02:05.680 --> 00:02:08.400 when it was back in the early part of twenty 33 00:02:08.439 --> 00:02:12.479 twenty four, we well. 34 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:19.439 We actually did some camping together. Was that back in May? Yes? Yeah, 35 00:02:19.639 --> 00:02:21.639 at the beginning of the camping trip, we had to 36 00:02:21.759 --> 00:02:28.280 show Missing Legends in Bakersville, Pennsylvania. That's right, Yeah, camp 37 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.560 at the park and then the next day headed off 38 00:02:31.560 --> 00:02:35.039 to the mountains and did our week long investigation up there, 39 00:02:35.080 --> 00:02:38.520 and that that was an adventure and a half. I'll 40 00:02:38.560 --> 00:02:42.159 tell you. Well, you know, it's funny you mentioned you 41 00:02:42.199 --> 00:02:44.520 brought up how we camped at the park. You know, 42 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:49.400 looking back at that that was actually fun. Actually, it 43 00:02:49.439 --> 00:02:53.639 was actually pretty intriguing too, because we had some activity 44 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:57.960 going on around us at that park. So yeah, well, 45 00:02:58.159 --> 00:03:00.080 part of what we saw, I don't know if you recall, 46 00:03:00.120 --> 00:03:02.639 because you guys are seeing eye shine and we were 47 00:03:02.680 --> 00:03:05.560 hearing some weird noises and here I am, I'm a 48 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:10.599 wildlife researcher, and it just sounded different out there and 49 00:03:10.840 --> 00:03:14.280 did when we approached. Well, what I walked out there 50 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:16.599 was shining my light or I took a hold of 51 00:03:16.599 --> 00:03:20.240 somebody's flight, I don't remember, but I do recall seeing 52 00:03:20.240 --> 00:03:22.120 some eye shine up in a tree. And then next 53 00:03:22.120 --> 00:03:25.280 you know these two. Now don't get me wrong, I 54 00:03:25.319 --> 00:03:30.319 have seen some very large raccoons before, but I'm like 55 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.800 maybe fifteen maybe twenty feet from this one tree, and 56 00:03:33.800 --> 00:03:35.319 all of a sudden, I see one at the top. 57 00:03:35.520 --> 00:03:39.080 I seen these two massive raccoons going straight down the 58 00:03:39.120 --> 00:03:42.439 tree headfirst, like walking down the tree. They had us 59 00:03:42.520 --> 00:03:45.479 on a lot of goose chase there for a little while. Oh, 60 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:49.479 but they were huge. They were huge. And yeah, it's like, 61 00:03:49.639 --> 00:03:51.240 I don't know what they were doing up in those trees, 62 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:54.120 but they were either fighting or I don't know. Raccoons 63 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:56.879 are usually quiet on the most part. But those raccoons 64 00:03:56.919 --> 00:04:02.919 were raising, yeah, raising some ruckets, so they were with us. 65 00:04:04.159 --> 00:04:09.039 Oh for sure, they know what they were doing. But 66 00:04:09.120 --> 00:04:14.280 you know it's funny that alone was Yeah, absolutely, it 67 00:04:14.319 --> 00:04:20.160 really was. And you know, I know it was really 68 00:04:20.240 --> 00:04:22.160 good for a lot of people. I had a lot 69 00:04:22.160 --> 00:04:27.480 of positive feedback regarding that event. I know there was 70 00:04:27.519 --> 00:04:29.959 a lot of people wanted me to continue it, which 71 00:04:30.319 --> 00:04:32.480 I hope to pick it back up somewhere in the 72 00:04:32.480 --> 00:04:35.759 near future. The only problem, as I you know, as 73 00:04:35.800 --> 00:04:40.279 I discussed with you, is we really needed a new location. Yeah, 74 00:04:40.560 --> 00:04:43.839 it was a big location, just bad for you know, 75 00:04:43.920 --> 00:04:46.639 people being able to find it and also people you know, 76 00:04:46.839 --> 00:04:51.000 be able to connect with the internet bright like you 77 00:04:51.040 --> 00:04:53.600 could ask Christy I was. You know, it was funny 78 00:04:53.639 --> 00:04:55.959 because I was kind of laughing and joking with her, 79 00:04:57.160 --> 00:04:59.000 like she was walking out in front of her booth 80 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.199 with her arm of her holding it up straight up 81 00:05:01.199 --> 00:05:03.959 in the air, look at her sign and uh so, 82 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:06.199 I come to find out, I guess she wasn't the 83 00:05:06.240 --> 00:05:09.040 only one that had the issue, but uh yeah, but 84 00:05:09.120 --> 00:05:11.079 so that was a bit concern. I always want to 85 00:05:11.079 --> 00:05:14.360 make sure my vendors are set and you know, I 86 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.319 don't want their sales to get messed up, you know, 87 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:20.439 because regardless, a lot of people do both cash and 88 00:05:20.839 --> 00:05:24.439 cards sales. Some people don't, you know, nowadays, a lot 89 00:05:24.480 --> 00:05:27.360 of people don't carry cash. Like myself, I don't necessarily 90 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:29.879 carry cash because it's I don't like to have much 91 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:33.600 of my wallet, so I just everything's about account But 92 00:05:33.800 --> 00:05:37.000 uh yeah, a lot of people depend on using their card, 93 00:05:37.360 --> 00:05:40.879 uh for purchases. So so that was a big part 94 00:05:40.920 --> 00:05:43.839 of why I needed a new location, something where it 95 00:05:43.920 --> 00:05:47.439 was going to be closer to a tower, something that 96 00:05:47.519 --> 00:05:49.720 was you know, not as wooded, because you know, that 97 00:05:49.839 --> 00:05:53.120 was a great park. It was well wooded. I mean 98 00:05:53.399 --> 00:05:56.040 it was actually very squatchy behind the park as you saw. 99 00:05:57.000 --> 00:05:59.759 That's that's what I liked about it. It really had 100 00:05:59.759 --> 00:06:05.439 that feel exactly. And I mean we've done plenty of 101 00:06:05.480 --> 00:06:08.920 shows over the years, and that right there just made 102 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:11.920 it even better, just having the feel of being out 103 00:06:11.959 --> 00:06:14.759 there and the nature like that. But you know, being 104 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:18.279 so secluded, it just it made for other issues. So 105 00:06:19.839 --> 00:06:22.240 we'll get lucky enough to find another place similar, but 106 00:06:22.360 --> 00:06:27.759 we won't have the problems. Yeah. Yeah, I mean I'm 107 00:06:27.759 --> 00:06:30.800 gonna I got some friends out there. I still connect 108 00:06:30.839 --> 00:06:34.360 with you know, they actually run a podcast show, and 109 00:06:35.720 --> 00:06:38.199 we're gonna I'm gonna stay in touch with them and 110 00:06:38.240 --> 00:06:42.519 see if something could come back, because, like I said, 111 00:06:42.560 --> 00:06:46.720 that was last May and I would love to continue. 112 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:49.079 But I don't see it happening. As I told others, 113 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.839 I don't see it happening this year. But you know, 114 00:06:53.240 --> 00:06:55.319 so I don't know. I mean, there's a lot of 115 00:06:55.480 --> 00:06:58.000 different events up there in Pennsylvania too, out in different 116 00:06:58.040 --> 00:07:02.319 parts of the state, and speaking about events, I thought 117 00:07:02.319 --> 00:07:05.120 maybe while I'm thinking about it, I wanted to ask 118 00:07:05.199 --> 00:07:07.720 you maybe if you don't have much to say on 119 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:11.639 it right now, that's totally fine. But now you had 120 00:07:12.959 --> 00:07:16.519 mentioned or talked about somewhere down the lines or maybe 121 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:19.600 in the near future. I mean, if you don't want 122 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:21.759 me to bring this up, I don't know. But no, 123 00:07:21.959 --> 00:07:25.079 you were, okay, so you had talked about doing a 124 00:07:25.079 --> 00:07:29.560 show of some sort here in Pennsylvania in the near future. 125 00:07:29.560 --> 00:07:30.839 You want to, Yeah, if you want to kind of 126 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.040 talk about that, kind of fill us in on that. Well, 127 00:07:33.040 --> 00:07:34.759 I don't want to give away too much about it 128 00:07:34.800 --> 00:07:37.519 because I'm still working on it, but I mean you 129 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:40.600 were there when I did my show a few years 130 00:07:40.639 --> 00:07:43.839 back at the Legion that I belonged to, right it was, 131 00:07:44.040 --> 00:07:46.439 it was just a small little thing, and you know 132 00:07:46.480 --> 00:07:52.399 it was great. You know yourself, Les o'dale and Mary 133 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:56.639 Fabian were all there. Oh sure they loved it. We 134 00:07:56.680 --> 00:07:58.519 didn't get much of a crowd in there, but I 135 00:07:58.560 --> 00:08:01.079 mean it was just something new that I was trying, 136 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:02.959 and I was trying to help the Legion, you know, 137 00:08:03.120 --> 00:08:06.519 get people in there, and just something you know, just 138 00:08:06.560 --> 00:08:10.759 getting me started somewhere. But ever since that, I have 139 00:08:10.879 --> 00:08:13.000 been going to a lot of shows that other people 140 00:08:13.160 --> 00:08:16.319 put off, whether I'm visiting or being part of it, 141 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:19.560 and I've been paying attention on how things work, and 142 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:22.040 I've got a lot of things in my mind that 143 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:24.480 i want to do for this. So that's why it's 144 00:08:24.480 --> 00:08:27.360 taking me so long, because I wanted to come off 145 00:08:27.360 --> 00:08:31.600 with as little hitches as possible. I know, it's right, 146 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:36.240 can't It's it's gonna happen, but you know, I just 147 00:08:36.360 --> 00:08:38.320 I want to make sure that everybody has a good 148 00:08:38.360 --> 00:08:41.320 experience with it because I have a wide range of 149 00:08:41.360 --> 00:08:44.000 things that I'm involved in and I'm trying to bring 150 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:48.639 all those together. Yes, it will be here in Pennsylvania. 151 00:08:50.519 --> 00:08:52.559 I'm not sure, if it's going to happen this year, 152 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:55.720 I was hoping it would, but it's probably going to 153 00:08:55.759 --> 00:09:02.279 be in twenty twenty six. Well okay, Well, like we discussed, 154 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:04.320 you know, it's been a roller coaster for twenty twenty 155 00:09:04.320 --> 00:09:07.679 four so it kind of set me back a little 156 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:09.480 bit on how I'm going to do things for twenty 157 00:09:09.519 --> 00:09:14.919 twenty five, right, I mean, you know personally what you know, 158 00:09:15.039 --> 00:09:17.840 Christy and I have been going through and everything, so 159 00:09:17.879 --> 00:09:22.840 it's it's been a little bit of a setback, and 160 00:09:22.919 --> 00:09:25.799 you know, things like that happen. Yeah, we're all run 161 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:30.480 into obstacles for sure, So definitely, but you know, as 162 00:09:30.519 --> 00:09:34.399 you know, a show can put a lot of financial 163 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.399 bind on you, so you know, I know with how 164 00:09:37.480 --> 00:09:40.120 what I have planned is going to take a lot 165 00:09:40.120 --> 00:09:42.639 of finances and a lot of backing. So I'm still 166 00:09:42.679 --> 00:09:46.799 working on a lot of things. But again, it's going 167 00:09:46.840 --> 00:09:51.360 to involve everything that I'm involved with, So I just 168 00:09:51.399 --> 00:09:53.200 want to make sure that I get all the channels 169 00:09:53.279 --> 00:09:55.440 right and make sure that we can get this thing 170 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:57.399 off without a hitch if possible. 171 00:09:58.440 --> 00:10:02.960 Right, Absolutely, could I mention something, I mean, you know, 172 00:10:03.399 --> 00:10:05.600 it's just something that might give you some thought or 173 00:10:05.639 --> 00:10:11.120 idea and maybe on how to early promote things. Well 174 00:10:11.559 --> 00:10:14.080 I shouldn't really say promote, but kind of like open 175 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:18.639 up that door, per se. Well, before I ever started 176 00:10:19.159 --> 00:10:22.159 my annual EC Bureau of Virginia Bigfoot conference that goes 177 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:25.720 on every June right here in Virginia, what led up 178 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:31.279 to that was me I was hosting library lectures. 179 00:10:31.440 --> 00:10:36.080 I was given presentations at the local library, sharing my 180 00:10:36.240 --> 00:10:41.039 research and my knowledge on certain things, you know, with bigfoot, 181 00:10:41.159 --> 00:10:46.159 and you know, kind of blending into wildlife, my wildlife knowledge. 182 00:10:46.720 --> 00:10:50.919 And every every time I dated a library lecture, I 183 00:10:51.000 --> 00:10:54.840 was getting more and more people. And the last library 184 00:10:54.919 --> 00:11:00.440 lecture I ever held before starting my first conference, I 185 00:11:00.480 --> 00:11:04.559 had a fairly decent filled up a conference room at 186 00:11:04.559 --> 00:11:08.279 the library. The library room is not entirely all that big, 187 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.320 but it holds up the I think the large room 188 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:15.639 holds up to seventy five people. But it was yeah, 189 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.200 but it was. It wasn't quite filled, but it was 190 00:11:18.440 --> 00:11:22.960 filled enough. But as I'm talking and doing my presentations 191 00:11:23.200 --> 00:11:25.840 my observation, I couldn't help but notice that it was 192 00:11:25.919 --> 00:11:30.679 people with notebooks and write and taking notes. I was like, okay, 193 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:33.960 it kind of felt very encouraging. I know, I was like, 194 00:11:33.960 --> 00:11:36.519 there's people taking notes from based off of what I'm presenting. 195 00:11:37.200 --> 00:11:40.519 I I'm not gonna lie. I felt like like a 196 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:47.000 teacher or professor. But it was quite exciting. But apart 197 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.080 from all that, my point is is it was drawing 198 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:55.440 people in. I was promoting these library lectures. But then 199 00:11:56.440 --> 00:12:01.679 the idea, yeah, the idea to make something more mad Well, okay, 200 00:12:01.879 --> 00:12:05.039 there's so many other boots on the ground, researchers with 201 00:12:05.240 --> 00:12:08.440 knowledge and information. Well, it's kind of that's hard to 202 00:12:08.600 --> 00:12:13.279 bring that up because I've actually ventured into that. I 203 00:12:13.519 --> 00:12:17.360 have been talking to some local libraries about coming and 204 00:12:17.399 --> 00:12:21.879 doing something like that. Right so, one of them is 205 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:25.200 down in Brownsville. The other one is I have a 206 00:12:25.279 --> 00:12:27.519 huge resource right down the road for me, which is 207 00:12:27.559 --> 00:12:33.000 California College. So that would be a great place to 208 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:37.159 aim for right there if they allowed it. Absolutely, So 209 00:12:37.440 --> 00:12:39.600 I'm gonna be reaching out more and more to them. 210 00:12:40.120 --> 00:12:44.080 I know Brownsville's on board, and I guess that they 211 00:12:44.159 --> 00:12:48.679 have some people that do come in there to you know, 212 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:53.759 get books and stuff for research of their own. There's 213 00:12:53.799 --> 00:12:57.000 there's some people that are out there in this field, 214 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:01.519 so you know, they have some resources to connect me with, 215 00:13:02.919 --> 00:13:07.279 which isn't I guess they're not that far away either, right, 216 00:13:08.159 --> 00:13:10.559 So you know, it is something that I have been 217 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:13.039 thinking about. Plus, you know, with the bike or big 218 00:13:13.039 --> 00:13:15.960 foot side of things, I'm hoping to get on some 219 00:13:16.000 --> 00:13:20.000 bike runs or maybe some bike rallies that happened in 220 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:22.799 the area. I was involved in a lot of that 221 00:13:22.919 --> 00:13:26.840 whenever I was in Allegiant Riders, and I think the 222 00:13:26.879 --> 00:13:29.799 first year that I became a Legion Rider, I was 223 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:35.159 at maybe twenty to thirty different rides and rallies in 224 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.559 one year. Oh nice. So you know, I've made a 225 00:13:39.600 --> 00:13:42.320 lot of connections with those people. So I'm guarantee you 226 00:13:42.360 --> 00:13:44.360 that I can get out there and get to these 227 00:13:44.399 --> 00:13:48.919 shows and reach these people again. Since I've stepped away 228 00:13:48.919 --> 00:13:52.799 from that scene for a while, you know, if I 229 00:13:52.840 --> 00:13:55.080 go back, you know, I'm sure I can grab these 230 00:13:55.120 --> 00:13:58.480 people again. I'm hoping, you know, to try to work 231 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:02.399 with even the Harley dealership too, because as you know, uh, 232 00:14:03.320 --> 00:14:06.600 I was able to do a mountain Fest down at 233 00:14:06.600 --> 00:14:10.159 Triple S Harley and Morgan Toombus, Virginia last year with 234 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:15.759 William Jeffrow So that was an interesting and fun time. Absolutely, 235 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.039 those guys are awesome, aren't they Yes, they are, They're 236 00:14:20.080 --> 00:14:24.320 great it. Uh, I mean we became real good friends 237 00:14:24.360 --> 00:14:27.519 with them down in Sutton last year and uh if 238 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:31.440 of course it was Christie's doing with her oatmel cream 239 00:14:31.480 --> 00:14:37.159 pot cookies. Oh, we went up to talk to the 240 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:40.200 guys and you know, we did. The conversation led into 241 00:14:40.320 --> 00:14:44.279 them inviting us to the Morgantown show and uh and 242 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:47.840 then the next thing, you know, we're over in the 243 00:14:47.879 --> 00:14:51.440 mountains of Pennsylvania over at Benner's Run campground and that's 244 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:55.919 where we did our engagement with the guys. So very awesome. 245 00:14:56.399 --> 00:15:00.720 So yeah, they're they're super good sports, they're wonderful guys personally. 246 00:15:00.919 --> 00:15:05.159 Just it's been great at knowing them. And uh, you know, 247 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.360 I talk about this all the time ever since I 248 00:15:07.559 --> 00:15:12.519 went public with what I do. It's just been a 249 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.759 heck of a journey and the amount of people that 250 00:15:14.799 --> 00:15:20.679 I've met, whether they're longtime investigators like yourself and others, 251 00:15:21.120 --> 00:15:24.279 or whether they're TV personal It's just like the first year, 252 00:15:25.159 --> 00:15:29.519 the first show that I did down in Sutton, Doctor Mildrim, 253 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:33.000 you know, it was It's just it started there and 254 00:15:33.080 --> 00:15:36.960 that was less O'Dell's doing. He got me in on 255 00:15:36.960 --> 00:15:41.759 that one. So oh yeah, I recall that became and 256 00:15:41.799 --> 00:15:46.039 that became an annual thing now. So yeah, I tell 257 00:15:46.080 --> 00:15:48.519 you that that first year you were down there, I know, 258 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:52.480 I was down with my old girlfriend at the time, 259 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:57.639 and that was a great presentation all the way around, 260 00:15:57.720 --> 00:16:01.080 both from you and Meltrum. I really enjoyed that. That 261 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.519 was that that Friday, that was a Friday before the 262 00:16:04.559 --> 00:16:08.320 big show, and it was really uh the team with 263 00:16:08.360 --> 00:16:12.440 what you did in Belgium's first presentation at that banquet 264 00:16:12.519 --> 00:16:15.600 right there, that was like definitely set the moon for 265 00:16:15.639 --> 00:16:18.679 the whole week. And for me that was just like, 266 00:16:20.200 --> 00:16:23.639 I don't even know how to describe it. I don't know. 267 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:27.519 It just felt like it was a I don't know, 268 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:29.600 I don't have the words to describe it. I really 269 00:16:29.600 --> 00:16:33.159 don't field. It's all I can say right now because 270 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:38.399 I don't have the words to really but uh, yeah, 271 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:44.559 I mean the day of the bank besides maybe but 272 00:16:45.720 --> 00:16:52.039 I hope actually suffering. Yeah, the medication I was on 273 00:16:52.200 --> 00:16:54.519 really took a toll on between Ducation that was on 274 00:16:54.639 --> 00:17:02.679 at the time and and Durman that East. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 275 00:17:02.720 --> 00:17:05.039 whenever you with you being on that medication and that 276 00:17:05.119 --> 00:17:10.640 heat you've got experience what I do deal with every day. 277 00:17:12.240 --> 00:17:17.640 You're you're cutting out, go back? Oh uh, this is 278 00:17:17.680 --> 00:17:26.319 good stuff? Yeah, m hm, you know, hey, you're you're 279 00:17:26.359 --> 00:17:32.559 fading out, buddy. I don't think you can know. I 280 00:17:32.680 --> 00:17:34.559 don't spend a lot of good stuff coming out of 281 00:17:34.599 --> 00:17:44.680 that for both. Uh. You First, it's that you're a 282 00:17:44.759 --> 00:17:50.559 big He's saying something like, I see a lot of people. 283 00:17:55.240 --> 00:18:02.079 Can you go? Are you still here? Yeah? I I 284 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:07.839 lost audio there for a second. You you faded away. 285 00:18:08.519 --> 00:18:11.920 I know you were talking about the Sutton event a 286 00:18:11.960 --> 00:18:14.200 couple of years ago, but I couldn't hear everything you said. 287 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:27.440 All right, okay, so yeah, my bluetooth are disconnected there 288 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.400 for a second, so that's why I didn't hear anything. 289 00:18:29.480 --> 00:18:33.880 So okay, So yeah, did you want to share or 290 00:18:33.920 --> 00:18:39.000 throw anything out there about that or we started talking 291 00:18:39.000 --> 00:18:45.359 about Sutton? Hold on one second, you're, as I said, 292 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:47.400 your audio cut out and I couldn't hear what you 293 00:18:47.440 --> 00:18:57.599 were talking about. Yeah, let me Okay, something's not right 294 00:18:57.720 --> 00:18:59.960 right now. We're having I'm having checking on the difficulties 295 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:04.880 because my my audio is not picking up. I hear you. 296 00:19:07.240 --> 00:19:10.160 So while I'm having a technical difficulty, do you want 297 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:11.880 to continue. If you want to talk about Sutton or 298 00:19:12.599 --> 00:19:16.279 share about what you felt or experienced there, feel free 299 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:21.079 to throw that out there, all right. So, yeah, about 300 00:19:21.079 --> 00:19:23.079 that Sutton show for the first time, it was a 301 00:19:23.119 --> 00:19:29.359 great opener for me personally and also for the mission 302 00:19:29.400 --> 00:19:35.079 that I have. You know, I was very thankful that 303 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:41.000 the the Sutton Museum family, Laurel and all them welcome 304 00:19:41.079 --> 00:19:43.920 to be in less got me involved with it. I 305 00:19:43.960 --> 00:19:47.000 got to meet doctor Mildrim, which obviously you know a 306 00:19:47.000 --> 00:19:49.519 lot of people that are in the big Foot world 307 00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:53.079 or whether it are fans of the TV shows and stuff. 308 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:55.079 Just to you know, be able to meet doctor Mildrim 309 00:19:55.160 --> 00:20:00.680 was a great opportunity and just really awesome here. You know. 310 00:20:02.359 --> 00:20:04.960 So the next day after the conference, you know, him 311 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:09.640 and I got to talk personally at the conference hall 312 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:16.759 down in town and him sharing his own personal problems 313 00:20:16.920 --> 00:20:19.920 in his life that you know, connected him into a 314 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:26.160 PTSD problem. It was just I was in awe. You know, 315 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:31.680 here I am like really idolizing this man for what 316 00:20:31.759 --> 00:20:34.039 he does in the big Foot world and he's sharing 317 00:20:34.039 --> 00:20:36.279 a story with me. I was like, wow, the tables 318 00:20:36.279 --> 00:20:38.759 have turned here for a moment, I thought that was 319 00:20:38.799 --> 00:20:42.319 really great. But just the amount of people that really 320 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:44.519 reacted to me and came over to me and talked 321 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:49.119 to me, and just meeting all the people. It was 322 00:20:49.200 --> 00:20:53.440 just a wonderful experience down there and being accepted into 323 00:20:53.480 --> 00:20:57.359 this And you know, I'm thankful for you as well, 324 00:20:57.480 --> 00:21:00.240 you know, the years that we've known each other, the 325 00:21:00.359 --> 00:21:06.359 sense all that. Uh, it's just it's just boosted everything 326 00:21:06.400 --> 00:21:10.200 that I've strived to do here, you know, oh absolutely, 327 00:21:11.240 --> 00:21:13.720 you know. It's it started with my interest as a 328 00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:16.680 child because of a sighting that I had, and then 329 00:21:16.759 --> 00:21:19.799 later you know, now I'm living in an area that 330 00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:21.640 was a hot spot at one time. It was on 331 00:21:21.680 --> 00:21:26.000 the news for a sighting and an investigation and happened 332 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:29.279 here in Daisytown. You know, it just my interests kept 333 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:31.480 growing and growing and growing, and then finally, you know, 334 00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:35.160 I come out into the public with all this after 335 00:21:35.200 --> 00:21:38.400 all those years of doing private investigations and stuff like that, 336 00:21:38.559 --> 00:21:41.759 and you know, watching TV shows and you know, doing 337 00:21:41.759 --> 00:21:47.240 the research and stuff. It's it's really different being out 338 00:21:47.240 --> 00:21:50.240 there in the public eye with all this and and 339 00:21:50.359 --> 00:21:52.920 you know, getting to know people and learning their stories 340 00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:57.960 and and getting out there and doing investigations with fellow investigators. 341 00:21:58.000 --> 00:22:02.079 It's it's really wonderful being able to do all this stuff. 342 00:22:02.319 --> 00:22:06.839 And you know, and then you look at personal life too. 343 00:22:07.400 --> 00:22:09.720 You know, I've dealt with a lot of things in 344 00:22:09.759 --> 00:22:14.240 my life and you know, whether it was good or bad, 345 00:22:14.559 --> 00:22:18.880 and you just keep on pushing through and trying to 346 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:22.000 find your way with things in life. And whenever this 347 00:22:22.720 --> 00:22:27.839 came in to my story that I would, you know, 348 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:31.640 be able to tell this stuff and let people know, hey, 349 00:22:31.680 --> 00:22:34.680 you know, it doesn't matter what your got going on, like, 350 00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:38.759 you know, you just got to push through. It really 351 00:22:38.799 --> 00:22:42.000 opened people up. And that's what I love about it too, 352 00:22:43.000 --> 00:22:46.079 is the camaraderie ship that I have with a lot 353 00:22:46.119 --> 00:22:51.160 of people because they feel what I'm saying and that 354 00:22:51.279 --> 00:22:55.519 gives them enough inside of them so that they want 355 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.359 to share with me. And you know, it's very hard 356 00:22:59.359 --> 00:23:03.400 to talk about. And that's what I stress with people 357 00:23:03.480 --> 00:23:07.720 during these conferences that I do is to you know, 358 00:23:07.799 --> 00:23:11.119 let people know that sometimes you'll feel better after you 359 00:23:11.240 --> 00:23:14.720 let it out. I mean, like I've had many talks 360 00:23:14.759 --> 00:23:18.559 with different veterans about things, and you know, they go 361 00:23:18.640 --> 00:23:22.000 through these wars and these battles and stuff, and then 362 00:23:22.039 --> 00:23:24.279 they don't talk about it and they battle it for 363 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:27.480 the rest of their life because they're holding this in. Hey, 364 00:23:27.519 --> 00:23:30.079 just let it out, talk to somebody. Maybe you'll feel 365 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:34.079 better about it. I mean, what happens not going to change, 366 00:23:34.359 --> 00:23:36.680 but you know, it can change your future on how 367 00:23:36.680 --> 00:23:41.480 you look at things. Same thing with sightings. You know, 368 00:23:42.039 --> 00:23:46.559 I try to help people with that as well. I 369 00:23:46.720 --> 00:23:51.839 had my sighting and at the moment it scared me. 370 00:23:52.200 --> 00:23:55.359 I was only thirteen years old. But ever since then, 371 00:23:55.480 --> 00:23:57.599 you know, you hear stories about people saying, oh, I 372 00:23:57.640 --> 00:24:00.880 won't go back into the woods because of that me. 373 00:24:01.000 --> 00:24:02.839 It draws me into the woods. I want to get 374 00:24:02.839 --> 00:24:04.359 out there and I want to learn. I want to 375 00:24:04.400 --> 00:24:07.640 have more sightings. I want to find more evidence and 376 00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.960 stuff like that. You know, you could have both aspects 377 00:24:11.319 --> 00:24:15.640 of PTSD, you know, where it drives you to learn 378 00:24:15.680 --> 00:24:19.119 more or it drives you away. So the best thing 379 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:21.559 you can do is just go to somebody and talk 380 00:24:21.599 --> 00:24:26.799 to them about it. Absolutely, yeah, because the more experiences 381 00:24:26.920 --> 00:24:31.440 you have to me in one way, shape or form, 382 00:24:31.519 --> 00:24:34.119 it's actually a piece of research. Is a piece of 383 00:24:35.160 --> 00:24:37.640 information or knowledge that we could pick up or gain. 384 00:24:38.119 --> 00:24:43.400 You know, it definitely is. Because I know one thing 385 00:24:43.480 --> 00:24:46.960 from the very first conference I did, which was in Suttin, 386 00:24:47.839 --> 00:24:51.279 and every single one after that, and now podcasts that 387 00:24:51.319 --> 00:24:55.680 I've been on, I've learned from those people that come 388 00:24:55.720 --> 00:24:59.640 to me, and it has changed how I do things, 389 00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:05.160 and I'm reaching for more information so I have more 390 00:25:05.240 --> 00:25:08.920 to give to people. I'm not telling people stories, but 391 00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:12.279 their stories are helping me through and help me along 392 00:25:12.319 --> 00:25:18.559 and you know, making what I'm doing better. For sure, 393 00:25:20.319 --> 00:25:22.720 you started a good thing. You really good. You have 394 00:25:22.880 --> 00:25:27.640 started a really good thing. And right now I think 395 00:25:27.759 --> 00:25:31.119 the strong winds over here affecting my system. But you 396 00:25:31.119 --> 00:25:34.640 could hear me, okay, right, yeah, I can hear you now, Okay, 397 00:25:35.480 --> 00:25:38.359 So yeah, I mean you come along ways? How long 398 00:25:38.640 --> 00:25:41.759 have you been starting as far as putting this out there, 399 00:25:41.759 --> 00:25:45.799 as far as what you do with the motivation motivation 400 00:25:46.240 --> 00:25:49.000 that I can't I'm getting tongue tight, the motivational speaking 401 00:25:49.200 --> 00:25:55.680