WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.240 --> 00:00:01.120 All right, what's going on? 2 00:00:01.199 --> 00:00:05.599 Drivetime Wednesday afternoon, twelve minutes past the hour of two o'clock. 3 00:00:06.200 --> 00:00:09.240 Another scorching hots August. 4 00:00:08.919 --> 00:00:12.839 Day outside about ninety two degrees sunning here in downtown 5 00:00:12.880 --> 00:00:16.719 Salix City, Utah, right outside of our Broadway Media studios. 6 00:00:16.719 --> 00:00:18.559 And as it is every single day, it's going. 7 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:20.440 To have you along for the ride's mets check. 8 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:22.679 It's beyond the Mike Porter Larson, beyond the Glass today 9 00:00:22.719 --> 00:00:25.960 with a jam pack Wednesday show, as we get you 10 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:29.199 halfway through that work week and one day closer to 11 00:00:29.559 --> 00:00:30.160 the weekend. 12 00:00:30.239 --> 00:00:31.440 Happy Wednesday to you. 13 00:00:32.240 --> 00:00:34.359 A lot of college football on the show today, a 14 00:00:34.359 --> 00:00:37.600 lot of college football conversation, as we are just well. 15 00:00:37.479 --> 00:00:39.759 Quite frankly days away from the start of the season 16 00:00:40.520 --> 00:00:44.039 week zero and then week after that University of Utah 17 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.119 gets rolling by Utah State. 18 00:00:46.240 --> 00:00:48.039 You're one under Bronco Menden Hall. 19 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:51.439 A lot of storylines to get to, a lot of 20 00:00:51.439 --> 00:00:54.920 conversations surrounding the start of the college football season, and 21 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:57.159 of course, a lot of Big twelve conversation. Listen to 22 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:01.840 a couple of Big twelve pods today. David Pollock, formerly 23 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.879 of ESPN, was on a Big twelve podcast this morning 24 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:08.200 with a lot of very complimentary things to say about 25 00:01:08.239 --> 00:01:11.879 the University of Utah, his confidence that they will bounce 26 00:01:11.959 --> 00:01:14.959 back after a five win season last year. Year one 27 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.120 in the Big Twelve, how will your two shape out 28 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:18.719 for the Utes? 29 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.560 And of course BYU continue to look for their quarterback. 30 00:01:22.599 --> 00:01:25.879 Reasonable expectations Year one for Bronco Meta Hall with eighty 31 00:01:26.280 --> 00:01:31.280 new players. Eighty new players at Utah State among the 32 00:01:31.280 --> 00:01:35.439 most turnover into country. Bronco's a great coach, He's a 33 00:01:35.439 --> 00:01:38.719 great organized communicator, dedicated. 34 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:41.319 To the process. Bryson Barnes will be under center for 35 00:01:41.359 --> 00:01:44.840 the Aggies. What's a realistic expectation for them? Get in 36 00:01:44.879 --> 00:01:48.920 all the college football storylines. Utah Jazz made a trade yesterday. 37 00:01:48.959 --> 00:01:52.239 George Yang is rolling back to Salt Lake City. Jazz 38 00:01:52.280 --> 00:01:55.719 are preparing for another year of futility. How does that 39 00:01:55.799 --> 00:01:58.840 land with a player like Lowry Marketing. I know he's 40 00:01:58.879 --> 00:02:01.280 a max money guy, and I know he got his contract, 41 00:02:01.319 --> 00:02:03.519 but I just kind of have to wonder, and we'll 42 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:05.200 get into some of this on the show today. What 43 00:02:05.400 --> 00:02:09.039 sort of adverse effect culturally does it have on an 44 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:11.599 organization when you're about to enter your fourth straight year 45 00:02:11.639 --> 00:02:15.120 of not being very good at what you do, and yes, 46 00:02:15.240 --> 00:02:17.400 the long game is what they're preaching, and we'll see 47 00:02:17.400 --> 00:02:18.879 if the fans continue. 48 00:02:18.479 --> 00:02:20.159 To stick along for the ride. 49 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:22.240 And hopefully there's some more hope this year than there 50 00:02:22.240 --> 00:02:24.439 has been over the prior few seasons. But we'll get 51 00:02:24.479 --> 00:02:26.479 into some of that out of the show today. Utah 52 00:02:26.479 --> 00:02:29.719 Mammoth have filed a lawsuit against a bad company about 53 00:02:29.759 --> 00:02:33.159 the name change from Utah Hockey Club to Utah Mammoth. 54 00:02:33.439 --> 00:02:35.439 So we'll get into some of that. Maybe we'll do 55 00:02:35.479 --> 00:02:36.960 some sports court tomorrow with our. 56 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:40.919 Friends Handy and Handy about that dynamic RSL in action 57 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:43.919 tonight Lead's Cup action. 58 00:02:45.280 --> 00:02:46.719 And it is a midweek tilt. 59 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:50.800 They're going to take on a Mexican club as they're 60 00:02:50.840 --> 00:02:54.120 trying to advance out of the group play in League's Cup, 61 00:02:54.159 --> 00:02:57.159 and it looks like we could see the new designated 62 00:02:57.159 --> 00:03:01.439 player tonight and RSL made it official as well just 63 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:05.840 a number of minutes ago that they have made another acquisition. 64 00:03:06.840 --> 00:03:10.439 So Rawan Cruz, the player that Pablo referred to on 65 00:03:10.479 --> 00:03:12.280 this show as a nine and a half like a 66 00:03:12.319 --> 00:03:14.360 striker that can also make plays. 67 00:03:15.039 --> 00:03:16.759 Received his work visa this morning. 68 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:21.039 He should be available tonight against Caratiaro. I think that's 69 00:03:21.039 --> 00:03:22.639 how you say it. Do not tweet a me. I 70 00:03:22.680 --> 00:03:25.560 don't care. But it is a Mexican side tonight that 71 00:03:25.680 --> 00:03:28.479 RSL needs to win in order to give themselves a chance. 72 00:03:28.520 --> 00:03:31.039 I think they need to get all three tonight, which 73 00:03:31.080 --> 00:03:33.400 means they cannot advance the penalty kicks, and then I 74 00:03:33.400 --> 00:03:35.759 think they need six different results to go their way. 75 00:03:36.680 --> 00:03:39.000 So small chance, like Utah in. 76 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:41.240 The FACT twelve Championship a couple of years ago, like 77 00:03:41.280 --> 00:03:43.080 five things had to go to ut Way and it did. 78 00:03:43.960 --> 00:03:48.319 RSL also signed Victor Olatunji today. Olatunji today from Sparta 79 00:03:48.319 --> 00:03:52.080 Prague two point five mil. It's a tam deal. Love 80 00:03:52.120 --> 00:03:55.360 the tam. It's different than gam M I less is 81 00:03:55.360 --> 00:03:58.439 a dumb league. It goes through June of twenty twenty eight, 82 00:03:58.439 --> 00:04:00.560 with options for the rest of twenty eight twenty nine. 83 00:04:01.240 --> 00:04:03.879 RSL paid DC United a one hundred and twenty five 84 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.479 thousand dollars discovery rights fee as well, so two editions 85 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.479 in the attack for Pablo's Group and MLS play will 86 00:04:10.520 --> 00:04:14.360 continue coming up on Sunday in New York, so a 87 00:04:14.360 --> 00:04:17.040 lot to do. NFL preseason action coming up this weekend. 88 00:04:17.120 --> 00:04:18.800 Should or Sanders is gonna get a start for the 89 00:04:18.839 --> 00:04:25.680 Cleveland Browns under center. Hard Knocks episode released last night. 90 00:04:25.759 --> 00:04:28.839 The debut of Hard Knocks features the Buffalo Bills. So 91 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:31.920 NFL football right around the corner as well. So a 92 00:04:31.920 --> 00:04:34.519 lot to do on the show with a good guest list. Well, 93 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:37.399 welcome in our good friend Tony Parks will be our 94 00:04:37.399 --> 00:04:39.279 first guest. Tony, of course the voice of the Bees, 95 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:42.279 but a long time radio personality in our market. We'll 96 00:04:42.319 --> 00:04:45.279 do some college football, some jazz, and some Bees with Tony. Today, 97 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:49.600 Dave Fox stops by live in studio, So if you've 98 00:04:49.600 --> 00:04:52.120 ever wanted to meet Dave, maybe just start your way 99 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:56.839 downtown to our Broadway Media studios and get the paparazzi ready. 100 00:04:56.879 --> 00:04:59.240 As Dave will roll In was on TV with Dave 101 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.759 last night, T thirty five Cam Why you we Call that? 102 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:05.519 Five questions with Spence streaming at kutv dot com as well. 103 00:05:06.279 --> 00:05:09.040 Voice of the Utes Bill Riley back on the program today. 104 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:12.879 Then we'll preview tonight's match for RSL and talk about 105 00:05:12.879 --> 00:05:16.319 these two new editions with the chief decision maker over there, Kurt. 106 00:05:16.199 --> 00:05:17.639 Schmidt on the show as well. 107 00:05:17.680 --> 00:05:21.120 So Tony Parks, Dave Fox Bill, Riley, Kirk Schmidt, Me 108 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:23.079 Spence check, ats all of you, the great listeners, and 109 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:25.920 that guy Porter Larson on a Wednesday afternoon. 110 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:27.399 Happy Wednesday, young man. How are you? 111 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:28.920 I'm well? How are you? 112 00:05:29.519 --> 00:05:32.959 I'm well? Thank you for asking, of course, right off 113 00:05:32.959 --> 00:05:35.079 the top of Duke, Duke is good. Duke is chilling. 114 00:05:36.600 --> 00:05:39.040 You know, I just realized something. We're about to turn 115 00:05:39.199 --> 00:05:41.319 six years old. The show is turning six years old 116 00:05:41.360 --> 00:05:43.720 next week. Okay, we'll be doing this for six years. 117 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:44.920 Duke's about to turn five. 118 00:05:45.120 --> 00:05:45.519 Wow. 119 00:05:45.800 --> 00:05:48.800 And our show is very much like Duke getting old, well, 120 00:05:48.839 --> 00:05:51.000 not getting old, but we are kind of as a 121 00:05:51.079 --> 00:05:54.000 radio show where a lot like Duke is. He is 122 00:05:54.759 --> 00:05:57.879 very calm, he's very cute, he's very handsome. 123 00:05:58.040 --> 00:05:59.959 Here we go. He does a very very good job 124 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:00.560 most of the time. 125 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.399 Then sometimes he has an accident inside and you have 126 00:06:03.439 --> 00:06:04.680 to throw away a blanket or a. 127 00:06:04.600 --> 00:06:07.600 Carpet, and that's kind of how we are. Yeah, we're 128 00:06:07.639 --> 00:06:08.360 pretty balanced. 129 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:09.000 Most of the time. 130 00:06:09.480 --> 00:06:12.360 Good looking guys, handsome, cute, do a good job. And 131 00:06:12.399 --> 00:06:14.839 then then occasionally there's an accident on the carpet and 132 00:06:15.079 --> 00:06:18.519 you know, and by the way, for you dog owners 133 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:22.000 out there, throw away the carpet, throw away the blanket, like, 134 00:06:22.079 --> 00:06:24.839 don't do the whole like orange mix where it's like, hey, 135 00:06:24.879 --> 00:06:26.399 this will solve your odor problem. 136 00:06:26.439 --> 00:06:29.079 No, it smells like poop, period. 137 00:06:29.240 --> 00:06:30.879 And then you try the orange stuff and it just 138 00:06:30.879 --> 00:06:32.480 smells like orange poop forever. 139 00:06:33.120 --> 00:06:34.839 The best did you have an accident is weak? 140 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:36.920 No, no, no, The best solution is to throw it 141 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:39.360 out like I'm with you. 142 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.879 You can never like I don't know. I can only 143 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.560 speak for my dog who's here in studio. When Duke 144 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:46.399 has an accident in the house and it hasn't happened 145 00:06:46.399 --> 00:06:49.600 for quite some time because he's house trained, it doesn't 146 00:06:49.639 --> 00:06:52.079 smell like a cute, little puppy dog poop. It smells 147 00:06:52.079 --> 00:06:54.319 like a grown man went to del taco at three 148 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:57.439 am and woke up with diary at four and just 149 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:00.360 went all over the carpet. So the first, the first 150 00:07:00.439 --> 00:07:03.279 few accidents, I did, try the whole, like, hey, the 151 00:07:03.399 --> 00:07:05.079 orange miracle bottle. 152 00:07:04.800 --> 00:07:06.959 You get at Petco, This is going to eliminate the odor. 153 00:07:07.319 --> 00:07:10.120 And then it just goes from smelling like diarrhea to 154 00:07:10.199 --> 00:07:13.360 orange flavor diarrhea. Throw out the blanket throughout the carpet, 155 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:14.079 start from scratch. 156 00:07:14.120 --> 00:07:14.800 Does that make sense. 157 00:07:15.240 --> 00:07:16.000 I think I'm with you. 158 00:07:16.079 --> 00:07:17.199 But as a radio show. 159 00:07:17.000 --> 00:07:19.000 We're very much like Duke locked in most of the time, 160 00:07:19.040 --> 00:07:21.120 but occasionally there's an accident and that gets us in trouble. 161 00:07:21.920 --> 00:07:23.800 That sound right, I think it's about right. 162 00:07:24.319 --> 00:07:26.079 I don't sleep very well, so these are the weird 163 00:07:26.120 --> 00:07:27.839 things to go through my head when I'm trying to sleep. 164 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:31.560 I've seen a lot of people that compare dogs to 165 00:07:31.560 --> 00:07:34.319 their owners, like they morph into each other. Uh huh, 166 00:07:34.319 --> 00:07:37.879 and that seems to come to fruition sometimes. 167 00:07:38.399 --> 00:07:41.480 Okay, well, Duke is just nappy now on the ground. 168 00:07:41.680 --> 00:07:43.639 Good boy, good boy, Duke. 169 00:07:43.759 --> 00:07:46.639 All right, anyway, loose analogy. That's what happens when you 170 00:07:46.639 --> 00:07:48.199 have a busy mind. You don't sleep well. You just 171 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.240 think about weird things. Tony Parks will be our first 172 00:07:51.279 --> 00:07:53.839 guest today in the program. But football season is here, 173 00:07:54.120 --> 00:07:56.839 and the Utah ESPN Radio Network is getting you ready 174 00:07:56.839 --> 00:07:59.639 with thirty one Days of Football presented by Baskin Robbins. 175 00:08:00.360 --> 00:08:02.279 Tune in daily for the best coverage of pro and 176 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:05.040 college ball. It's the thirty one Days of Football presented 177 00:08:05.040 --> 00:08:08.360 by Baskin Robbins on ESPN seven hundred. All Right, a 178 00:08:08.360 --> 00:08:10.120 couple of minutes here opening tip Porter, I want you 179 00:08:10.199 --> 00:08:12.639 to chime in because I was listening to a couple 180 00:08:12.639 --> 00:08:16.920 of pods earlier today. If I just asked you the 181 00:08:17.000 --> 00:08:20.279 cliched August question prior to college football, what does a 182 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:24.759 successful season look like for Utah football this year? And 183 00:08:24.839 --> 00:08:27.600 I always find this question interesting because Kyle has said 184 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:30.839 this standard that certainly wasn't met last season. And if 185 00:08:30.839 --> 00:08:33.879 we're honest, they didn't meet our expectations. They didn't meet 186 00:08:33.879 --> 00:08:37.720 their own expectations. They didn't meet the expectations of the 187 00:08:37.879 --> 00:08:40.919 bookies in Vegas, they didn't meet the expectations of the 188 00:08:41.039 --> 00:08:44.000 national media. You look at some of the over unders, 189 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.039 you look at some of the previews, and Utah does 190 00:08:46.080 --> 00:08:48.279 not have the pressure this year that they did last 191 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.159 year when everybody thought they were going to win the thing. 192 00:08:51.240 --> 00:08:54.879 If I say to you eight nine wins, you know, 193 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:57.960 good bowl game, does that feel like a successful season? 194 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.080 How would you define success for football this year? 195 00:09:01.200 --> 00:09:05.799 I think with where this program is in the context 196 00:09:06.120 --> 00:09:09.240 of where college football is, I don't really care if 197 00:09:09.279 --> 00:09:12.919 it's eight nine, ten, seven wins. I care if you're 198 00:09:12.960 --> 00:09:16.480 playing for something at the end of the year, if 199 00:09:16.519 --> 00:09:19.679 you're going into the final week of the season and 200 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:22.039 you have an opportunity, say, oh, I don't know, to 201 00:09:22.080 --> 00:09:25.519 win a Big twelve championship and get to a playoff, 202 00:09:25.559 --> 00:09:28.000 play your way in. I don't care if you won 203 00:09:28.080 --> 00:09:31.159 eight games. I don't care how pretty it has looked. 204 00:09:31.200 --> 00:09:34.399 I think that's where we're at, not only with college football, 205 00:09:34.440 --> 00:09:39.960 but with the team coached by one Kyle Whittingham, who 206 00:09:40.320 --> 00:09:42.240 you know, whether you think this is his. 207 00:09:42.240 --> 00:09:44.480 Last year or his last three or four years. 208 00:09:45.639 --> 00:09:49.159 There's a little bit of a last ride feel to it, right, 209 00:09:49.919 --> 00:09:52.879 And I think with that context included, yeah, I don't 210 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:55.840 care if it's a ten win season. I care if 211 00:09:56.279 --> 00:10:00.440 going into the final week of the regular season you 212 00:10:00.519 --> 00:10:02.639 have some sort of opportunity to play your way way 213 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:03.039 into a. 214 00:10:02.960 --> 00:10:04.120 Big twelve championship game. 215 00:10:04.159 --> 00:10:08.759 And if you can do that, then you know the optics, 216 00:10:08.799 --> 00:10:13.759 the non linear way that the season will go. That 217 00:10:13.919 --> 00:10:17.200 means less to me than what we see in late 218 00:10:17.240 --> 00:10:18.320 November and October. 219 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:20.759 So it's interesting because if I said to you, did 220 00:10:20.799 --> 00:10:24.600 BYU have a successful season a year ago, you have 221 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:28.080 to say yes, right, you have to say yes, eleven 222 00:10:28.120 --> 00:10:30.960 wins Ala Mobole, but didn't play in the Big twelve 223 00:10:31.039 --> 00:10:34.399 Championship game, because these questions always have to be steeped 224 00:10:34.399 --> 00:10:38.360 with context and expectation. And one of the reasons last 225 00:10:38.399 --> 00:10:40.840 year felt like such a gut punch for Utah football 226 00:10:41.039 --> 00:10:44.000 was the expectation for the Utes heading into the season, 227 00:10:44.840 --> 00:10:48.480 and expectations in life and in sports often lead to 228 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:52.399 failure and often lead to disappointment. And Ted Lassel Porter's 229 00:10:52.399 --> 00:10:55.919 favorite television program, it's not todd all of us that 230 00:10:56.080 --> 00:10:58.799 it is the hope that kills you. But the over 231 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:02.159 under this year, according to Vegas Insider, for Utah football, 232 00:11:02.240 --> 00:11:05.679 is seven point five wins. So if I gave you 233 00:11:05.759 --> 00:11:08.399 Porter right now eight wins for Utah, if I said 234 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:11.320 you can take eight go to a bowl game, I 235 00:11:11.360 --> 00:11:14.360 can't guarantee that's gonna even sniff the Big Twelve championship. 236 00:11:14.360 --> 00:11:17.519 But Vegas says seven point five five wins a year ago, 237 00:11:17.679 --> 00:11:19.759 year two and the Big Twelve. If I give you 238 00:11:19.840 --> 00:11:22.159 eight wins for Utah football right now, do you take it? 239 00:11:23.960 --> 00:11:24.000 No. 240 00:11:25.000 --> 00:11:28.200 I think I'm gonna roll with I think I'm gonna 241 00:11:28.240 --> 00:11:30.440 roll with my chances, with the coaching staff we have 242 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:33.200 with uh. Like I said, the context of college football, 243 00:11:33.200 --> 00:11:35.759 which I think right now is kind of chaotic, right 244 00:11:36.200 --> 00:11:40.080 and I think that this coaching staff, the experience that 245 00:11:40.159 --> 00:11:44.840 they have, they have an opportunity to kind of not 246 00:11:44.960 --> 00:11:47.759 catch lightning in a bottle. But you do have to 247 00:11:47.919 --> 00:11:50.559 look at college football in kind of a smaller timeline. 248 00:11:51.039 --> 00:11:53.840 And I have confidence in this staff in, you know, 249 00:11:53.919 --> 00:11:58.039 maybe putting together a nine to ten game run outside 250 00:11:58.039 --> 00:12:00.600 of you know, just take it eight games and good. 251 00:12:00.879 --> 00:12:03.639 I think they're capable of maybe more than that. I'm 252 00:12:03.639 --> 00:12:06.039 not saying I think it's likely. I think that that's 253 00:12:06.039 --> 00:12:08.960 a pretty fair over under from the folks in Vegas. 254 00:12:10.240 --> 00:12:13.440 But I'm I'm gonna roll the dice and say, you know, 255 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:18.279 eight or nine. Maybe if you really start well, you 256 00:12:18.639 --> 00:12:21.120 look at that double digit and that would be a 257 00:12:21.159 --> 00:12:21.720 success to me. 258 00:12:22.039 --> 00:12:26.559 DraftKings also has Utah's over under total at seven point five. 259 00:12:26.639 --> 00:12:29.000 Draft Kings for Bringing Me Young. It's eight point five. 260 00:12:29.519 --> 00:12:32.159 So eight point five wins for BYU, seven point five 261 00:12:32.200 --> 00:12:36.039 wins for Utah. It's interesting when you consider the schedule 262 00:12:36.159 --> 00:12:40.720 for Utah this year, and ultimately, as we've all learned, 263 00:12:41.039 --> 00:12:43.360 when it comes to you trying to predict and prognosticate 264 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.720 what the Big twelve will look like, it is often 265 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.320 an exercise in futility. 266 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:49.399 It's not the best conference in America. 267 00:12:49.440 --> 00:12:51.360 It's not close quite frankly, but it might be the 268 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:54.759 most competitive, just with a group of seven to eight 269 00:12:54.879 --> 00:12:57.120 really really good football teams. It feels a little bit 270 00:12:57.159 --> 00:12:59.039 like the PAC twelve did over the final couple of 271 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:02.360 seasons for Utah. The PAC twelve, but when you kind 272 00:13:02.360 --> 00:13:05.000 of read around, look at some Vegas ods, read some 273 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:09.120 media members that are trying to predict Utah, and BYU 274 00:13:09.320 --> 00:13:11.720 seem to be in the mix of teams that people 275 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.600 think can win it. Arizona State in that mix, there's 276 00:13:14.639 --> 00:13:17.720 a lot of love for David Randon Baylor, a lot 277 00:13:17.759 --> 00:13:19.960 of unknown in Colorado as they say goodbye to a 278 00:13:20.000 --> 00:13:23.639 Heisman Trophy winner and their quarterback. Iowa State and k 279 00:13:23.840 --> 00:13:25.919 State seem to be those benefit of the doubt teams 280 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:28.080 in this conference. And then of course Texas Tech with 281 00:13:28.120 --> 00:13:31.799 their massive investment, their economic investment and the talent has 282 00:13:31.840 --> 00:13:33.639 to be considered part of the mix. 283 00:13:33.960 --> 00:13:35.600 Mike Gunny got rid of most of his staff. 284 00:13:35.639 --> 00:13:36.919 I don't think this is going to be a season 285 00:13:36.960 --> 00:13:40.039 where Oklahoma State does much. TCU was kind of in 286 00:13:40.039 --> 00:13:42.679 the mix as well, but most of the teams that 287 00:13:42.720 --> 00:13:46.000 are considered to be potentially winning the Big twelve championship. 288 00:13:46.080 --> 00:13:48.840 Utah is pretty fortunate because they get Texas Tech at home, 289 00:13:49.240 --> 00:13:52.600 they get Arizona State at home, they get Colorado at home, 290 00:13:52.639 --> 00:13:55.519 and they get Case State at home. The two road 291 00:13:55.559 --> 00:13:57.840 games that you need to watch out for, of course, 292 00:13:57.879 --> 00:14:01.120 are clearly at Brigham Young down Provo and then at 293 00:14:01.159 --> 00:14:04.080 Baylor and Waco, and then a tricky one at the 294 00:14:04.159 --> 00:14:07.519 end of the season at Kansas as well. But three 295 00:14:07.559 --> 00:14:10.639 of the potential Big twelve contending teams are playing Utah 296 00:14:10.639 --> 00:14:12.960 here in Salt Lake City, so obviously that bodes well. 297 00:14:13.679 --> 00:14:17.559 Seven and a half Vegas line for over underwins for 298 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:20.879 Utah football. It feels like they can definitely get over that. 299 00:14:21.080 --> 00:14:23.399 Can they do more than eight or nine wins? Will 300 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:25.240 eight or nine wins be enough to get them in 301 00:14:25.240 --> 00:14:28.000 the mix to win a Big twelve championship home Only 302 00:14:28.039 --> 00:14:30.320 time will tell. So it is that time of year 303 00:14:30.360 --> 00:14:32.639 where we're honed in on a lot of these predictions 304 00:14:32.639 --> 00:14:36.360 and expectations. Then obviously we'll learn more about these teams 305 00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:39.360 once kickoff comes, which is only twenty four days away. 306 00:14:39.759 --> 00:14:43.840 So I really wanted to enjoy its happy Gilmore too, 307 00:14:44.200 --> 00:14:47.120 wanted to sit down last night, not a lot going on, 308 00:14:47.200 --> 00:14:49.480 not a lot of sports, hanging out with a dog, 309 00:14:50.039 --> 00:14:53.159 made a little dinner, sat down, fired up Happy You 310 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:56.919 Go More Too. Was hoping for at least some nostalgia, 311 00:14:57.000 --> 00:14:59.000 and to be fair, maybe there's still some. But after 312 00:14:59.080 --> 00:15:02.840 fifteen minutes, I'm like, this is just so bad. I 313 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:03.799 had to turn it off. 314 00:15:04.360 --> 00:15:07.240 So therefore went over to HBO and fired up the 315 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:10.960 new documentary on Billy Joel. Two part doc they're both 316 00:15:11.039 --> 00:15:13.440 like three hours, so didn't get through all of it, 317 00:15:15.000 --> 00:15:16.960 but we're gonna do a little bit Billy Joel on 318 00:15:17.000 --> 00:15:18.679 the show today, port Red. I don't know if you 319 00:15:18.679 --> 00:15:20.559 have a Billy Joel take at all, or you did 320 00:15:20.559 --> 00:15:22.600 try to watch Happy Gilmore Too for a minute, didn't you? 321 00:15:22.919 --> 00:15:24.320 Yeah? 322 00:15:24.440 --> 00:15:27.720 I think I said yesterday like turned into like grown 323 00:15:27.799 --> 00:15:29.000 ups kind of right. 324 00:15:29.039 --> 00:15:30.679 That's the exact right description. 325 00:15:31.559 --> 00:15:32.840 Spoiler alert. 326 00:15:33.000 --> 00:15:35.720 When he kills his wife two minutes into the movie, 327 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:39.559 all right, here we go, and it just it just 328 00:15:39.639 --> 00:15:41.960 kind of keeps going. And I get it. It's supposed 329 00:15:41.960 --> 00:15:45.159 to be outrageous. Is an Adam Sandler movie. We're expected 330 00:15:45.159 --> 00:15:47.960 to just like lean into that. Uh, But I think 331 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:50.440 there's a limit to how much you can just like 332 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:54.759 start filming and throw your friends on and not really 333 00:15:54.759 --> 00:15:59.360 have like a plan. Yeah, and that's real script. This 334 00:15:59.399 --> 00:16:01.200 is a movie we've waiting for for twenty years, Like, 335 00:16:01.240 --> 00:16:04.279 give us something that has some flow with the storyline 336 00:16:04.279 --> 00:16:06.879 that we just saw. I don't know, sorry to go 337 00:16:07.360 --> 00:16:09.799 big on Happy Goalmore. Billy Joel's fine, all. 338 00:16:09.759 --> 00:16:10.960 Right, Billy Joel's fine. 339 00:16:11.000 --> 00:16:13.600 No, no, Ultimately I'll watch the rest of it, mostly 340 00:16:13.600 --> 00:16:16.279 because Shooter McGavin looks like my father and he hates 341 00:16:16.360 --> 00:16:18.799 that he does. It's like my favorite thing. It's my 342 00:16:18.840 --> 00:16:22.080 favorite thing. In fact, he was mistook in the airport. 343 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:26.919 Poor shooting McGavin. Ones and anyway, Happy Gilmore Too. I'll 344 00:16:26.919 --> 00:16:27.399 get through it. 345 00:16:27.480 --> 00:16:29.919 See on the on the ninth Green Dave Check. 346 00:16:29.840 --> 00:16:33.279 Its indeed live and studio, one of my good friends 347 00:16:33.279 --> 00:16:35.200 in this business. It's always a pleasure to catch up 348 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.679 with Tony Parks, the voice of the Bees. Have you 349 00:16:38.159 --> 00:16:40.399 have you tried to suffer through Happy Gilmore Too? 350 00:16:40.480 --> 00:16:40.679 Yet? 351 00:16:40.840 --> 00:16:41.080 Yeah? 352 00:16:41.240 --> 00:16:43.960 Yeah, I went in. Look the bar's low. 353 00:16:44.559 --> 00:16:49.360 It's gonna kind of be a bunch of I don't know, 354 00:16:49.480 --> 00:16:52.120 just cameos where you kind of have references to stuff. 355 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:54.399 You just go in for a few laughs, just to 356 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:55.559 you know, see what it's like. 357 00:16:55.679 --> 00:16:56.279 Okay, cool. 358 00:16:56.320 --> 00:17:00.679 I did that with Coming to America too, yea was yeah, 359 00:17:00.720 --> 00:17:01.399 same kind of thing. 360 00:17:01.480 --> 00:17:02.039 Didn't go in. 361 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:03.759 There like, oh I hope this is great. No, just 362 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:05.599 you're gonna laugh, You're gonna see a lot of the 363 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:07.839 same characters. You can have some fun with it. And 364 00:17:08.039 --> 00:17:10.640 once I was passed that part about twenty minutes in, 365 00:17:11.200 --> 00:17:11.880 I fell asleep. 366 00:17:11.960 --> 00:17:14.640 Yeah, so yeah, fair enough, I want to sleep. I had. No, 367 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.559 you can't go into it thinking like this be great. 368 00:17:17.759 --> 00:17:22.119 Yeah, just no, you can't replicate it. So there don't 369 00:17:22.160 --> 00:17:24.079 even try to replicate it. The big thing is just 370 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:26.880 to have it essentially be a bunch of throwbacks. Would 371 00:17:26.920 --> 00:17:28.759 laughs the other thing, And you tell me if you 372 00:17:28.799 --> 00:17:31.119 do this, yeah, and I've always done this, and you 373 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:32.839 know you and I work in sports and have worked 374 00:17:32.880 --> 00:17:35.200 in sports for a long time. So if I'm watching 375 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:37.920 a sports movie, I'm like overly critical. 376 00:17:38.039 --> 00:17:40.480 I'm like, that's a movie screen. That's not how you 377 00:17:40.519 --> 00:17:42.759 shoot a jump shot, that's not how you throw football. Right, 378 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:45.039 So there's also part of me like, all right, three 379 00:17:45.039 --> 00:17:47.440 holes in one on a par fours, right, you know, 380 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.920 I do have this weird dynamic if I'm watching a 381 00:17:50.960 --> 00:17:53.799 sports movie, I'm overly critical like the sports scenes because 382 00:17:53.799 --> 00:17:55.119 actors are not athletes. 383 00:17:56.000 --> 00:17:57.799 I hate to be that way too, but I am. 384 00:17:57.920 --> 00:17:59.960 Yeah, Like, first of all, the PA announcers not doing 385 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:02.640 play by play, So that's a dead giveaway that you 386 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:06.559 didn't really know what you were doing with any of this, right. 387 00:18:07.400 --> 00:18:10.559 I love the movie Major League more than anything, but 388 00:18:10.720 --> 00:18:12.960 Lou Brown does get away batting ten hitters in that 389 00:18:13.039 --> 00:18:14.319 championship game against the. 390 00:18:14.319 --> 00:18:17.839 Endgames, you're pitching from a stretch, there's a man on first. 391 00:18:18.000 --> 00:18:19.799 Yeah, just weird stuff like that. 392 00:18:19.880 --> 00:18:21.839 Oh, there's just yeah, there's like little stuff like that 393 00:18:21.839 --> 00:18:24.880 that I'm like, no, No, there's football lines out in 394 00:18:24.920 --> 00:18:27.839 the outfield in May Like, you hate to have to 395 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:30.279 be that way, but you do get that way because 396 00:18:30.319 --> 00:18:33.319 that helps with the authenticity of the movie. And so 397 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:35.759 I think every time I've watched these, I'm like, you 398 00:18:35.759 --> 00:18:37.480 could have had just a few people sitting in on 399 00:18:37.519 --> 00:18:39.720 this and help you out with that fine detail. 400 00:18:39.799 --> 00:18:40.920 I remember I. 401 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.799 Had Dennis Lindsay on my show. It was prior to 402 00:18:44.440 --> 00:18:47.319 an NBA draft, and I asked him if he had 403 00:18:47.359 --> 00:18:50.359 seen Draft Day with Kevin Costner. Yeah, And I was 404 00:18:50.400 --> 00:18:52.960 not expected Dennis went off on like a ten minute 405 00:18:53.119 --> 00:18:56.920 diatribe about how inaccurate that movie is when it comes 406 00:18:56.920 --> 00:18:59.680 to the draft process. It's funny if a movie's made 407 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.000 about something that you're very familiar with, you're just overly 408 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:03.680 critical of how Hollywood depicts it. 409 00:19:03.839 --> 00:19:05.599 You have to I think they should actually sit in 410 00:19:05.640 --> 00:19:07.480 those rooms and then get people to be like, hey, 411 00:19:07.480 --> 00:19:10.160 watch this, Yeah, what are we missing? Oh, we're over 412 00:19:10.200 --> 00:19:10.880 exaggerating this. 413 00:19:11.039 --> 00:19:11.200 Oh. 414 00:19:11.640 --> 00:19:16.000 When I put together the Steve Clouke documentary, I wasn't 415 00:19:16.039 --> 00:19:18.079 able to find film of his very first game that 416 00:19:18.119 --> 00:19:20.519 he ever went to, some random July game in nineteen 417 00:19:20.599 --> 00:19:23.279 sixty three. But I found film of the fifty nine 418 00:19:23.279 --> 00:19:25.240 World Series and a home run that went to the 419 00:19:25.240 --> 00:19:28.440 same area, and I it was awesome. But I kept 420 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:31.680 telling them, you've got to zoom in on this home 421 00:19:31.759 --> 00:19:33.799 run and they're like, why, it's great because the umpire 422 00:19:33.799 --> 00:19:35.759 and right field like signals home run and it looks 423 00:19:35.799 --> 00:19:38.319 so cool. I was like, because that's a World Series game, 424 00:19:38.480 --> 00:19:39.880 and you'd have an umpire and right field in the 425 00:19:39.920 --> 00:19:42.079 World Series and this is a regular season game in July. 426 00:19:42.119 --> 00:19:44.039 And they're like, Oh, no one's gonna care. 427 00:19:44.160 --> 00:19:47.559 I'm like, it is all Steve Cloukey, we'll talk about 428 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:50.160 if he sees this for sure, and so I like, 429 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:52.720 we had to go over this for ten minutes. So 430 00:19:53.160 --> 00:19:54.880 I've always thought I wish they would do that with 431 00:19:55.039 --> 00:19:57.920 movies or anything like that, to be like, no, that's 432 00:19:57.960 --> 00:19:58.759 too unbelievable. 433 00:19:58.839 --> 00:19:59.680 Yeah, and then people like what. 434 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:03.400 I'm like, okay, but what how are we trying to 435 00:20:03.440 --> 00:20:05.359 depict this Moneyball? 436 00:20:05.519 --> 00:20:07.160 I was the one who was like, Nope, that's a 437 00:20:07.240 --> 00:20:09.839 day game. That's a day game. I remember that game. 438 00:20:09.720 --> 00:20:12.119 As a taycad. I hate to be that way, but 439 00:20:12.160 --> 00:20:13.119 I'm the same one. No, that's true. 440 00:20:13.400 --> 00:20:16.039 Moneyball is funny because I actually I took a date 441 00:20:16.079 --> 00:20:21.839 to that movie. Okay, and afterwards she's like, well, wait, 442 00:20:21.880 --> 00:20:26.359 they didn't win. It's like, well, they won like whatever, 443 00:20:26.440 --> 00:20:29.599 twenty straight. Yeah, well but they didn't win. They didn't 444 00:20:29.640 --> 00:20:32.160 win like in the playoffs. And she wasn't a big 445 00:20:32.200 --> 00:20:34.559 sports fan, but she's like, what's they didn't win the 446 00:20:34.559 --> 00:20:36.359 World Series. He's like, well, they won a bunch of 447 00:20:36.440 --> 00:20:39.039 games straight and Brad Pitt played Billy being whatever. 448 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:42.799 It's a fun story. Yeah, anyway, have you been made, dude? 449 00:20:42.839 --> 00:20:44.519 I love it. Things are good. Yeah, go to the 450 00:20:44.559 --> 00:20:48.160 ballpark every day. Enjoy it all the time. Yep. Just 451 00:20:48.559 --> 00:20:50.200 wake up every day, go to a baseball game. 452 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:51.119 There's nothing like it. 453 00:20:51.759 --> 00:20:54.240 Watching the journeys of so many people being so connected 454 00:20:54.279 --> 00:20:55.000 to them. 455 00:20:55.559 --> 00:20:56.240 It's wonderful. 456 00:20:56.240 --> 00:20:56.359 Man. 457 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:59.519 New Ballpark's beautiful. It's great to have its first summer. 458 00:20:59.599 --> 00:21:01.359 You know, we have the spring part and all of that, 459 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:03.279 and just the different chapters of the year. The way 460 00:21:03.319 --> 00:21:05.400 the whole America First Square is coming together with the 461 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:08.680 new Megaplex and now the Amphitheater, it's really cool because 462 00:21:08.759 --> 00:21:11.359 three sixty five, that whole area is just gonna have 463 00:21:11.440 --> 00:21:15.000 something family friendly and cool to do. So the stadium 464 00:21:15.039 --> 00:21:17.160 is obviously where you'll find me most times, but just 465 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:19.400 watching it all come together, it's beautiful. 466 00:21:19.440 --> 00:21:19.640 Man. 467 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:21.519 Give me a quick breakdown of where we're at with 468 00:21:21.559 --> 00:21:24.039 the team and how things are going, and you know, 469 00:21:24.079 --> 00:21:25.559 maybe some prospects to look out for. 470 00:21:25.680 --> 00:21:28.119 Yeah, coming off of what I think was their absolute 471 00:21:28.160 --> 00:21:32.359 best road road series and really series altogether. They beat 472 00:21:32.359 --> 00:21:33.880 the team with the best record in the league four 473 00:21:33.920 --> 00:21:36.359 out of five to start that series, I mean, really 474 00:21:36.440 --> 00:21:39.720 soundly handled them, gave a game away even with a 475 00:21:39.759 --> 00:21:42.039 fluky ground ball that hit second base that would have 476 00:21:42.119 --> 00:21:44.960 ended the game. But you know something like that, you 477 00:21:45.000 --> 00:21:47.440 win four out of six. It's the team with the 478 00:21:47.440 --> 00:21:49.920 most amount of quality starts in all of the Pacific 479 00:21:49.920 --> 00:21:52.160 Coast League, right like, it's the team that I think 480 00:21:52.200 --> 00:21:55.119 has young emerging players. That's a positive sign to see. 481 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:57.920 So one guy like his Jared Souther coming out of 482 00:21:57.920 --> 00:21:59.920 the pen. Sammy Peralta, who spent some time with the 483 00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:04.440 Sox last year, he was right there now with the UH. 484 00:22:04.519 --> 00:22:07.240 He was pitcher of the Week for the Pacific Coast League, 485 00:22:07.240 --> 00:22:09.359 So a big tip of the hat to him for 486 00:22:09.480 --> 00:22:11.480 his great work and what he was able to do. 487 00:22:11.599 --> 00:22:13.519 And so so proud of so many different guys. But 488 00:22:13.599 --> 00:22:16.480 it's been fun to watch successful players come along. I 489 00:22:16.559 --> 00:22:18.680 like a guy named Victor Maderos. I call him the 490 00:22:18.680 --> 00:22:22.319 Boa Constrictor because the way he just methodically takes over 491 00:22:22.359 --> 00:22:25.759 a game, a great starting pitcher who's just magnificent to watch. 492 00:22:25.799 --> 00:22:27.559 And then there's a young kid in Caden Dana. 493 00:22:27.920 --> 00:22:30.440 He's got electric stuff and you know he's just going 494 00:22:30.519 --> 00:22:32.880 to continue to get better and better. So it's fun 495 00:22:32.920 --> 00:22:35.200 watching each guy. But Sammy PERALTA big tip of that 496 00:22:35.240 --> 00:22:37.599 to him. Pitcher of the Month for the Pacific Coast 497 00:22:37.640 --> 00:22:40.640 League in July, and he deserves all the credit in 498 00:22:40.640 --> 00:22:43.839 the world. So it's been awesome. Man, Are are you 499 00:22:43.839 --> 00:22:45.440 getting the crowds that you need to get? 500 00:22:45.559 --> 00:22:45.759 Yeah? 501 00:22:45.799 --> 00:22:49.119 You know, the Tribune did a little piece on a 502 00:22:49.160 --> 00:22:51.240 little bit of an attendance dip, which I think is 503 00:22:51.359 --> 00:22:54.880 going to be inevitable when you move from a centrally 504 00:22:54.880 --> 00:22:55.680 located area. 505 00:22:55.920 --> 00:22:56.680 Yeah. 506 00:22:56.759 --> 00:22:59.559 I don't know how many people out in this direction 507 00:22:59.640 --> 00:23:01.079 have had a out south. I mean I have a 508 00:23:01.079 --> 00:23:03.079 lot of friends and you and I talked about this 509 00:23:03.160 --> 00:23:05.359 when the news came down that the Bees were headed south. 510 00:23:05.839 --> 00:23:08.960 You're simply going to react to the news as it 511 00:23:09.000 --> 00:23:11.920 pertains to you, right, So I live in Salt Lake. 512 00:23:12.039 --> 00:23:12.720 I was bummed. 513 00:23:13.720 --> 00:23:15.640 My buddies who used to go at the time don't 514 00:23:15.640 --> 00:23:19.039 go anymore. But much of the valley is migrated down south. 515 00:23:19.079 --> 00:23:21.640 The population down there is booming. So what have the 516 00:23:21.640 --> 00:23:22.519 crowds been like so far? 517 00:23:22.599 --> 00:23:26.920 Crowd's been great because a number of sellouts from games 518 00:23:26.960 --> 00:23:29.599 that are not theme nights, games that are not fireworks nights. 519 00:23:29.720 --> 00:23:30.880 Last night was a great crowd. 520 00:23:30.880 --> 00:23:32.640 That was a Tuesday night. I mean it was the 521 00:23:32.640 --> 00:23:34.200 burm was packed. I mean, there were a lot of 522 00:23:34.200 --> 00:23:36.720 people walking around. What I like about the crowd is 523 00:23:36.759 --> 00:23:38.480 when you go to the game every night, it feels 524 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:40.799 like everybody's first game. And that's going to be like 525 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:43.759 that this first year. So the first April and May, 526 00:23:43.880 --> 00:23:46.440 I didn't expect it to be great at all because 527 00:23:46.480 --> 00:23:50.000 that's the springtime. New location, six thirty five starts. Kids 528 00:23:50.000 --> 00:23:52.000 have school the next day. The other part that people 529 00:23:52.039 --> 00:23:54.519 forget about April May games. The weather's part of it, 530 00:23:54.519 --> 00:23:57.079 there's no doubt. The other part of it is if 531 00:23:57.119 --> 00:24:00.440 anything gets in the way, you have seventy games to 532 00:24:00.519 --> 00:24:02.759 choose from, you can always put it off. So let's 533 00:24:02.759 --> 00:24:04.720 say you're going to go Thursday, and then you know, 534 00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:06.519 it took a little too long to pick up the kids, 535 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:06.880 and then. 536 00:24:06.759 --> 00:24:08.720 I forgot we had to drop this off. You know what, 537 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:11.160 I'm tired. Let's just let's just go another time. And 538 00:24:11.200 --> 00:24:11.920 that's how it happens. 539 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:14.160 So now you get to this part of the year 540 00:24:14.359 --> 00:24:16.720 and you're seeing terrific crowds. Next year is the one 541 00:24:16.720 --> 00:24:18.799 where I think it's going to be fair to really 542 00:24:18.839 --> 00:24:22.519 see on the different chapters on how it's attended. It's 543 00:24:22.559 --> 00:24:24.880 an area that loves events, and it's an area that 544 00:24:24.920 --> 00:24:27.920 loves their stuff. So that Daybreak community and that whole 545 00:24:27.960 --> 00:24:30.599 pocket out there, they're juiced about it. They love the 546 00:24:30.599 --> 00:24:32.599 whole entire thing. Like I said, I think you put 547 00:24:32.640 --> 00:24:34.880 it perfectly. You're going to react to how it affects you. 548 00:24:35.680 --> 00:24:36.319 Yeah, that's how. 549 00:24:36.359 --> 00:24:37.880 If you're in Davis County, you're like, this is the 550 00:24:37.880 --> 00:24:41.680 stupidest thing ever, right, and then if you're in South Jordan, 551 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:43.400 you're like, well this is great. 552 00:24:43.559 --> 00:24:45.920 Yeah, we went over there. It was an amazing experience. Right. 553 00:24:46.519 --> 00:24:48.720 And then for some people they didn't have to get 554 00:24:48.720 --> 00:24:51.400 on one freeway now they have to get on three. 555 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:54.279 Yeah. Well, and for some of the belly acheing. 556 00:24:54.519 --> 00:24:56.440 In fact, a buddy of mine who lives a little 557 00:24:56.480 --> 00:24:58.759 further up north to your point, not quite in Davis County, 558 00:24:58.759 --> 00:24:59.799 but like North Salt. 559 00:24:59.720 --> 00:25:03.000 Lake, dude to coope believe the Bees are moving down south. 560 00:25:03.039 --> 00:25:04.960 I'm like, how many Bees games did you go to 561 00:25:05.079 --> 00:25:05.599 last year's? 562 00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:05.720 Right? 563 00:25:06.440 --> 00:25:06.480 Like? 564 00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:07.039 Three? 565 00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:09.599 Like all right, well, don't pretend you were going to 566 00:25:09.680 --> 00:25:12.039 forty or fifty. If you went to two or three, 567 00:25:12.079 --> 00:25:14.400 it doesn't really adversly affect you. So hopefully they give 568 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:15.519 the support one more thing here. 569 00:25:15.759 --> 00:25:16.160 Yeah. 570 00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:20.200 Occasionally I'll see a social media post or a headline 571 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:24.839 about MLB expansion, and Rob Manfred has said it's not 572 00:25:24.960 --> 00:25:27.480 happening until the new CBA is ratified. 573 00:25:27.519 --> 00:25:29.759 I think that's in two years if I remember correctly. 574 00:25:30.400 --> 00:25:34.319 But every time this comes up, it's Nashville, it's Salt Lake, 575 00:25:34.480 --> 00:25:36.799 it's Portland. I feel like those are the three, and 576 00:25:36.880 --> 00:25:39.640 I feel like we're continued, you know, to be mentioned 577 00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:40.359 right in the mix. 578 00:25:40.559 --> 00:25:42.400 If we're not at the top, we're close to the top. 579 00:25:42.920 --> 00:25:47.000 And obviously the Millers have put together comprehensive plans to 580 00:25:47.039 --> 00:25:49.119 put a shovel in the dirt as soon as they 581 00:25:49.119 --> 00:25:52.400 get the green light. I am so badly hoping this 582 00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:55.000 happens for us. Oh, do you have any insight as 583 00:25:55.000 --> 00:25:55.799 to where we're at now? 584 00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:58.279 The insight that I could give you is this, as 585 00:25:58.359 --> 00:26:01.559 far as like, okay, chances, what are the chances I 586 00:26:01.680 --> 00:26:04.559 would if you were to make me say, okay, when 587 00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:05.640 does expansion happen? 588 00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:07.839 Well, that we don't really know, So you'd have to 589 00:26:07.880 --> 00:26:08.400 be after. 590 00:26:08.240 --> 00:26:09.720 The CBA, and we have to wait. We don't even 591 00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:10.640 know how long that would be. 592 00:26:10.759 --> 00:26:14.680 Plus you forget too once it was even announced, like okay, 593 00:26:14.880 --> 00:26:17.839 the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays way 594 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:21.000 back when it was four years before games were ever played. 595 00:26:21.079 --> 00:26:24.400 It was a long time, so there's a process there. Plus, 596 00:26:24.440 --> 00:26:28.079 you forget this too, is like Ryan Smith purchasing you know, 597 00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.920 the hockey team. That team already existed, so it was 598 00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:33.359 a turnkey thing. You had the arena all that. I know, 599 00:26:33.400 --> 00:26:36.039 it's not automatic. It takes work, sure, but it's totally 600 00:26:36.039 --> 00:26:39.039 different with expansion. You got to get a spring training facility, 601 00:26:39.200 --> 00:26:40.519 you need minor league affiliates. 602 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:40.880 You did. 603 00:26:41.000 --> 00:26:43.319 There's so much that's going to go into that. 604 00:26:43.759 --> 00:26:47.119 Where I think Salt Lake has the advantage over everybody 605 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.559 else is the headaches that they've minimized or removed. 606 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:53.839 One of the greatest things that they have. 607 00:26:54.000 --> 00:26:55.960 I mean, you really have to tip your hat to 608 00:26:56.079 --> 00:27:01.160 everybody involved on this to say, implementation is how do 609 00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.920 we make sure that we are the best, most attractive 610 00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.160 in front, ready to go with all the headaches, all 611 00:27:06.160 --> 00:27:09.480 the nonsense, all the everything that goes on behind the 612 00:27:09.480 --> 00:27:12.640 scenes that just drags on. Forty seven chain emails and 613 00:27:12.680 --> 00:27:14.839 a bunch of odds and ends that just exhaust time. 614 00:27:14.920 --> 00:27:17.680 They've said here it is boom, there's the plan, and 615 00:27:17.720 --> 00:27:20.240 they've gotten in touch with people who know, they've gotten 616 00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:22.440 in touch with people who understand those complexities. 617 00:27:22.440 --> 00:27:25.240 They can help see around some corners to speed things up. 618 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:28.559 That, if anything, should make Salt Lake as attractive as 619 00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:30.319 anything else. And then on top of that, you know 620 00:27:30.640 --> 00:27:33.359 a great sports market that would attend and have attention 621 00:27:33.480 --> 00:27:35.599 and have a fever pitch around their team. 622 00:27:35.960 --> 00:27:40.519 So Bob Nightingale, MLB columnists for USA Today, on July 623 00:27:40.640 --> 00:27:43.920 twenty second, so not too long ago, wrote that he's 624 00:27:43.960 --> 00:27:46.799 been told Salt Lake City and Nashville remain the strongest 625 00:27:46.799 --> 00:27:50.519 expansion markets, and I did miss I misspoke earlier. The 626 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.200 new CBA actually expires at the end of next season, 627 00:27:53.680 --> 00:27:56.559 so it ends in twenty six. The negotiations are going 628 00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:59.079 on right now, so we might not get news until 629 00:27:59.119 --> 00:28:02.079 the end of twenty six. However, about a week ago, 630 00:28:02.160 --> 00:28:05.240 Portland's making a push. Portland is making a push because 631 00:28:05.279 --> 00:28:07.240 they need to kind of do something to figure out 632 00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:11.519 their downtown situation. That is, unfortunately, you know, led to 633 00:28:11.559 --> 00:28:13.920 a lot of people moving from downtown Portland, including some 634 00:28:13.960 --> 00:28:16.200 friends of mine that moved up to Gresham. So it 635 00:28:16.240 --> 00:28:18.799 does feel like those are the three markets, Nashville, Saw 636 00:28:18.880 --> 00:28:21.720 Lake and Portland. And to your point about the Millers 637 00:28:21.759 --> 00:28:24.279 and how they're ready to make this happen as soon 638 00:28:24.319 --> 00:28:26.599 as they get the green light. It feels like we're 639 00:28:26.640 --> 00:28:29.480 gonna in a good space with it. We'll do some 640 00:28:29.519 --> 00:28:32.880 college football during the next segment here. With the remaining 641 00:28:32.920 --> 00:28:34.720 time here, let's do a little jazz. Tony and I 642 00:28:34.799 --> 00:28:36.519 worked together for a number of years over at the 643 00:28:36.559 --> 00:28:38.880 old station when we were broadcast partners with the Jazz 644 00:28:38.920 --> 00:28:43.079 doing pre off and post and new decision maker in 645 00:28:43.119 --> 00:28:47.480 town with Austin Ahe and I gotta be honest, I 646 00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:50.119 kind of like his approach compared to what they've been 647 00:28:50.160 --> 00:28:54.079 trying to do over the past three seasons. No matter 648 00:28:54.559 --> 00:28:56.920 the narrative they try to force down people's throats to 649 00:28:56.960 --> 00:29:00.160 the propaganda that they encourage their you know, state on 650 00:29:00.240 --> 00:29:03.240 media members to forward. This is year four of a 651 00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.119 rebuild that's been clunky, to say the least, and I 652 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:08.240 think they finally have ripped the band aid off as 653 00:29:08.279 --> 00:29:10.720 opposed to trying to put you know, these things together 654 00:29:10.759 --> 00:29:12.000 with duct tape and Shugo. 655 00:29:13.079 --> 00:29:15.400 The George Dang trade you know, doesn't mean a whole lot. 656 00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.640 Essentially, Boston was trying to shed some salary and the 657 00:29:17.720 --> 00:29:20.720 Jazz get two second rounders. George is a safe bet. 658 00:29:20.759 --> 00:29:22.160 You know you and I worked over there when he 659 00:29:22.240 --> 00:29:23.599 was playing. He's a good guy. 660 00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.720 He's a pro that will kind of help these young 661 00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:28.359 players play or these young players. 662 00:29:28.200 --> 00:29:30.880 Learn how to be professionals. But here's here's what I 663 00:29:30.920 --> 00:29:33.880 want to ask you. Because you've been around several of 664 00:29:33.920 --> 00:29:35.640 our local teams for a number of different years and 665 00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:40.240 seeing several different iterations of coaching staffs, so front offices 666 00:29:40.279 --> 00:29:46.920 of rosters, how does losing seep into the culture of 667 00:29:46.960 --> 00:29:50.079 a team and the culture of an organization, And how 668 00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:53.440 does it affect Like Larry Marketing got his MAX deal, 669 00:29:53.599 --> 00:29:57.400 so he got paid. That's fine, But I wonder if 670 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:01.039 you're if you're lowry, do you I feel like your 671 00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:05.039 value as an NBA player has been adversely affected because A, 672 00:30:05.279 --> 00:30:07.400 you were told that you're not playing very much last 673 00:30:07.480 --> 00:30:10.039 year even when you're healthy. And b it's been three 674 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:12.359 years since he really had a good season because they 675 00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.000 were semi serious about winning year one and Larry had 676 00:30:15.000 --> 00:30:17.839 some grown ups around him like Mike Conley and Kelly Olynnock. 677 00:30:18.960 --> 00:30:21.440 And then how does it affect to Will Hardy that 678 00:30:22.039 --> 00:30:24.160 for the fourth year he does not have the tools 679 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:27.119 he needs to win games. And look, coaches are judged 680 00:30:27.119 --> 00:30:29.559 on one thing, it's their win loss record. Will's won 681 00:30:29.599 --> 00:30:31.559 about thirty two percent of his games. I know, we 682 00:30:31.599 --> 00:30:33.400 do this thing where it's like, well, Will's bright and 683 00:30:33.480 --> 00:30:36.000 he's a good coach, he's the one to ride with. Okay, 684 00:30:36.079 --> 00:30:38.920 that's fine. But if you're Will Hardy, if you're a 685 00:30:38.960 --> 00:30:41.640 head coach and you don't have the tools you need 686 00:30:41.680 --> 00:30:43.599 to compete, if you're Larry Market and you're a star 687 00:30:43.680 --> 00:30:47.440 player and you're not surrounded with adults and you're not 688 00:30:47.799 --> 00:30:50.240 able to show exactly who you are in the landscape 689 00:30:50.759 --> 00:30:54.480 of professional basketball. If you're in the ticket office, if 690 00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:57.400 you're selling sponsorships, if you're part of an organization that's 691 00:30:57.400 --> 00:30:59.880 about to enter your fourth year of inability to compete 692 00:30:59.880 --> 00:31:02.920 with peers, what does that do to the entire operation? 693 00:31:03.119 --> 00:31:04.480 I mean it's it's not healthy. 694 00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.559 Like, in my opinion, if you want to sell to 695 00:31:07.559 --> 00:31:10.079 me going forward, there's some growth, there's some opportunity, there's 696 00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:11.440 some positive momentum. 697 00:31:11.480 --> 00:31:12.599 I'm actually all in on that. 698 00:31:13.079 --> 00:31:17.839 I was filling in for you last November and I thought, okay, well, 699 00:31:17.839 --> 00:31:20.279 with what I'm watching here, I thought, this is really 700 00:31:20.359 --> 00:31:21.759 unfair to will Hardy. It was one of the first 701 00:31:21.799 --> 00:31:23.839 things I said, like, this is like, there's not a 702 00:31:23.839 --> 00:31:26.400 lot he can do with this, and so my point 703 00:31:26.519 --> 00:31:27.960 was they should actually extend him. 704 00:31:28.359 --> 00:31:31.960 And I'm thinking two three years. They gave the guy six. 705 00:31:32.480 --> 00:31:35.599 That's great, and by the way, that was the first 706 00:31:35.599 --> 00:31:38.559 moment where you finally admitted but like, okay. So the 707 00:31:38.599 --> 00:31:39.839 way I put it is this, if you want to 708 00:31:39.839 --> 00:31:41.880 sell to me, there's big things coming up in an 709 00:31:41.920 --> 00:31:44.319 evolution of growth and things like that, with the changes 710 00:31:44.359 --> 00:31:46.440 you made to your front office, with the extension of 711 00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:48.440 your head coach, with some of the things you want 712 00:31:48.480 --> 00:31:50.920 going forward, I'm all in. I'll listen, but don't do 713 00:31:51.039 --> 00:31:53.720 that and sell to me that the last three years 714 00:31:53.720 --> 00:31:56.440 were necessary, because they were not. If one of them was, 715 00:31:56.519 --> 00:31:58.839 I might listen to that. Two of them, I'm not 716 00:31:58.880 --> 00:32:01.240 so sure. Three of them, I don't want to hear it. 717 00:32:02.400 --> 00:32:04.400 I don't want to hear it. You can't be in 718 00:32:04.920 --> 00:32:07.319 the third year of this and there's literally nothing like 719 00:32:07.359 --> 00:32:09.000 I was like, explain to me what Jazz. 720 00:32:08.839 --> 00:32:11.519 DNA is right now. Nobody could tell me. Explain to 721 00:32:11.559 --> 00:32:12.839 me what the culture of the team is. 722 00:32:13.119 --> 00:32:15.359 Give me one thing that makes us think, oh well, this, 723 00:32:15.920 --> 00:32:18.720 don't give me he's young, that that's not growth, that's 724 00:32:18.759 --> 00:32:21.839 not nothing excites me with he's young and he hit 725 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:25.680 a three like that. No, let's get into really what's 726 00:32:25.720 --> 00:32:28.440 going on here. So if you want to sell it 727 00:32:28.440 --> 00:32:31.160 to me going forward, I'll listen. Actually, because now you 728 00:32:31.240 --> 00:32:33.440 started making moves that, in my opinion, start to admit 729 00:32:33.960 --> 00:32:37.440 even your motto, which would builds with us, climb with us, 730 00:32:37.000 --> 00:32:40.240 with whatever it was, Okay, Well, now you're implying that 731 00:32:40.240 --> 00:32:41.960 what just happened the last three years was certainly not 732 00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:45.000 that right. So at least you're the biggest thing you've done, 733 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:50.400 whether outwardly or subconsciously, is admit that what's going on 734 00:32:50.400 --> 00:32:53.359 in the last three years is really unnecessary. So, in 735 00:32:53.440 --> 00:32:56.440 my opinion, no, it's not helpful. No, it's not good. 736 00:32:56.480 --> 00:32:58.960 When I watch Quinn Snyder's team step in and they 737 00:32:58.960 --> 00:33:02.000 weren't good, but you could an identity forming. You could 738 00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:05.240 see alignment with front office, with head coach with Okay, 739 00:33:05.240 --> 00:33:08.039 you're building some leadership here and there, Oh, Rudy is 740 00:33:08.079 --> 00:33:11.119 a defensive identity. Okay, there's a culture building here. You 741 00:33:11.160 --> 00:33:12.720 and I were sitting there in post game shows where 742 00:33:12.720 --> 00:33:14.880 they were they lost nine in a row, but they 743 00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.039 felt good about the place they were going. 744 00:33:17.079 --> 00:33:17.279 Yep. 745 00:33:17.400 --> 00:33:19.240 And I've talked this, I've told the story. I'm sitting 746 00:33:19.240 --> 00:33:20.759 in a game last year going I have no idea 747 00:33:20.759 --> 00:33:23.759 what this is. I have no idea what this is. 748 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.000 This is just a two hour and fifteen minute like, okay, 749 00:33:28.000 --> 00:33:30.240 competed for a half, rolled over and died in the 750 00:33:30.240 --> 00:33:33.880 third quarter defensively, and everybody was like numb to it. 751 00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.680 And I'm like, man, that I'm not used to as 752 00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:37.640 being around the Jazz. 753 00:33:37.839 --> 00:33:41.119 So to my point going forward here, you can't do 754 00:33:41.240 --> 00:33:43.759 this again until people, oh, no, no, it's cool, it's cool. 755 00:33:43.799 --> 00:33:44.200 No, it's not. 756 00:33:44.920 --> 00:33:48.079 Even if you're a thirty two win team. You've got 757 00:33:48.119 --> 00:33:50.400 to show me something that. Okay, this is what Will 758 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:55.000 is starting to form with the overall culture, mindset, identity 759 00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.680 of Utah Jazz basketball, because I believe he wants to 760 00:33:57.680 --> 00:33:59.559 build it. And I watched it at the G League 761 00:33:59.559 --> 00:34:02.599 and I think Morrison and Wojahowski like what they've done 762 00:34:02.640 --> 00:34:03.759 with their staff altogether. 763 00:34:03.960 --> 00:34:04.799 These are good moves. 764 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:06.559 I saw it there and I could see what they 765 00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:08.519 were trying to do, but I also saw it not 766 00:34:08.599 --> 00:34:10.000 formulate at the NBA level. 767 00:34:10.119 --> 00:34:12.559 Yeah, eighty five and one sixty one, as well as 768 00:34:12.559 --> 00:34:16.079 record thirty four percent win percentage. And I am in 769 00:34:16.119 --> 00:34:18.599 the camp where I don't believe most of the results 770 00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:21.039 are on him or not. I am in that camp. 771 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:25.039 He's also coached the two worst defensive teams in jazz 772 00:34:25.079 --> 00:34:27.760 history over the past two years, and honestly almost historically 773 00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.280 bad as it pertains to their peers in NBA basketball. 774 00:34:31.280 --> 00:34:34.159 That's how bad defensively they've been. And the other thing 775 00:34:34.199 --> 00:34:36.639 to think about is they're not really close. So at 776 00:34:36.639 --> 00:34:39.559 what point does the rubber meet the road now? As 777 00:34:39.599 --> 00:34:43.000 you alluded to, And I, like I said, I think 778 00:34:43.039 --> 00:34:46.599 Austin has come in and made some difficult decisions that 779 00:34:46.639 --> 00:34:50.000 have been necessary. I think they were too stubborn early 780 00:34:50.039 --> 00:34:52.519 on about Clarkson trying to get a first rounder for him. 781 00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.280 I think they were too stubborn for you know, their 782 00:34:55.360 --> 00:34:59.280 asks with John Collins, Colin Sexton. You know, whether it 783 00:34:59.280 --> 00:35:02.000 was Danny or or Justin or whatever, the fact that 784 00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:03.880 Austin was like, we just need to get rid of 785 00:35:03.880 --> 00:35:06.800 these dudes. We know that you love JC, we know 786 00:35:06.880 --> 00:35:10.000 that you know you like Sexton's energy, we know that 787 00:35:10.079 --> 00:35:11.960 you liked that John Collins may have had a career 788 00:35:12.039 --> 00:35:13.880 year last year, but they are not part of our 789 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:15.519 future plans, and. 790 00:35:15.559 --> 00:35:17.519 No matter what, we need to get rid of them. 791 00:35:17.599 --> 00:35:21.639 So usef Narkets your throwaway couple second rounders here there, 792 00:35:21.880 --> 00:35:24.960 you know, buying out Clarkson. Let's just move on from 793 00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:27.639 this area of ambiguity where some nights we look okay 794 00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.159 and other nights we look anemick, And let's go all 795 00:35:30.199 --> 00:35:33.119 in on playing these young players, because I think there's 796 00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.079 a lot to like about Walter Clayton Junior. And I 797 00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.400 actually hope he's starting a point guard opening night, because 798 00:35:37.400 --> 00:35:41.119 call your look, it was unrealistic to expect him to 799 00:35:41.159 --> 00:35:42.679 fix a shot in a couple of months. But I 800 00:35:43.079 --> 00:35:45.679 summer league, my man didn't look like he's getting jumpers 801 00:35:45.719 --> 00:35:48.119 up at all. And I know that he's a bowl. 802 00:35:48.199 --> 00:35:51.400 I know that he's you know, good baseline end to end. 803 00:35:51.400 --> 00:35:53.239 He's fast, he's got a good feel for the game. 804 00:35:53.920 --> 00:35:56.679 But we need to learn about Ace. Ace might provide 805 00:35:56.719 --> 00:35:58.679 some hope, and so let's get him in the lineup. 806 00:35:58.719 --> 00:36:01.360 And hopefully Taylor's read with his health and let's get 807 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:03.000 him in the lineup. But I want these kids playing 808 00:36:03.039 --> 00:36:05.599 thirty thirty five minutes. Yeah, it doesn't mean that they're 809 00:36:05.599 --> 00:36:08.159 close to being good, but at least you can kind 810 00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:10.199 of see a direction this year that I don't think 811 00:36:10.199 --> 00:36:11.599 we've seen over the past three seasons. 812 00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:13.519 No, I think you're one hundred percent right on with it. 813 00:36:13.559 --> 00:36:15.440 I think Tim McMahon said it best too, and he 814 00:36:15.480 --> 00:36:17.119 came on when I was filling in for you one 815 00:36:17.119 --> 00:36:20.159 of those times, and he just said, I essentially like 816 00:36:20.920 --> 00:36:23.440 paraphrasing of bit, but I think this postseason and the 817 00:36:23.559 --> 00:36:26.800 NBA Finals and all that should really make organizations look 818 00:36:26.800 --> 00:36:28.639 in the mirror and just get honest about the fact 819 00:36:28.639 --> 00:36:30.960 that they're not as close as they pretend to be. 820 00:36:31.440 --> 00:36:34.719 And having assets is one thing, having a hopeful future 821 00:36:34.800 --> 00:36:36.360 is one thing, but that does not guarantee that your 822 00:36:36.440 --> 00:36:40.119 operation is properly in place and properly operating so that 823 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:41.960 it will be good enough to get the results you want. 824 00:36:42.360 --> 00:36:44.519 Saying look how much capital we have, Look how much 825 00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:47.079 of this But okay, that's nice, do you really know 826 00:36:47.119 --> 00:36:49.199 what you're doing with it? Do you have everything under 827 00:36:49.199 --> 00:36:52.559 the hood to actually get your team there? So what 828 00:36:52.679 --> 00:36:54.440 I also don't want to have going forward is this 829 00:36:54.480 --> 00:36:56.880 team being successful in the future and then saying, well, see, 830 00:36:56.880 --> 00:36:58.840 but those three years were necessary. 831 00:36:59.000 --> 00:36:59.639 No, they weren't. 832 00:37:00.239 --> 00:37:00.920 No, they weren't. 833 00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:03.679 You just gotta get honest about it. You gotta. 834 00:37:03.880 --> 00:37:06.840 There's a guy that I worked with and known, and 835 00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.199 he worked with a lot of people on health and 836 00:37:09.239 --> 00:37:12.239 body transformation and all that stuff, and he was like, 837 00:37:12.320 --> 00:37:13.559 first thing I do is I talk to him. 838 00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:15.159 If they're too in love with their story, I can't 839 00:37:15.159 --> 00:37:15.840 work with him. 840 00:37:15.880 --> 00:37:17.920 Like, whoa, he's the first thing they need to do 841 00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:19.679 is get rid of their narrative, get rid of their story, 842 00:37:19.920 --> 00:37:20.760 get honest about it. 843 00:37:20.800 --> 00:37:22.199 Once they do that, we can work together. 844 00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:24.800 But if I have this arm wrestle of well, no, 845 00:37:24.920 --> 00:37:27.840 that's not true because blah blah blah. Oh no boy, 846 00:37:28.239 --> 00:37:29.960 and they kind of want to stick to this story. 847 00:37:30.199 --> 00:37:32.480 He's like, it's a never win situation. So I just 848 00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:33.800 tell him, when you're ready to get rid of your 849 00:37:34.039 --> 00:37:36.639 narrative and your story about why you got in this situation, 850 00:37:36.760 --> 00:37:37.360 come talk to me. 851 00:37:37.559 --> 00:37:39.800 So if the Jazz want to get honest about that, they. 852 00:37:39.760 --> 00:37:41.760 Got a real shot. But if they want to kind 853 00:37:41.800 --> 00:37:43.119 of have one foot in front of the other and be. 854 00:37:43.079 --> 00:37:45.000 Like, well, no, but that's kind of what we were 855 00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:46.440 doing and to justify it. 856 00:37:47.079 --> 00:37:50.159 No, because now you're going to keep having residuals of 857 00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:52.559 what you once were, and you need to, as you said, 858 00:37:52.639 --> 00:37:54.920 rip the band aid, but you need to acknowledge and 859 00:37:54.960 --> 00:37:57.480 be honest about the past three years and then you 860 00:37:57.519 --> 00:38:01.880 can start thriving and climb together going forward. Yeah, the 861 00:38:01.920 --> 00:38:06.679 messaging has been really clunky, and I like justin'sanik a lot. 862 00:38:06.800 --> 00:38:09.000 I've known Danny Ainge since I was two. I'm not 863 00:38:09.039 --> 00:38:09.440 trying to. 864 00:38:09.360 --> 00:38:11.119 Be overly critical of the two guys, who I think 865 00:38:11.199 --> 00:38:15.440 are good at their job. But when they planted last 866 00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:19.679 year through Sarah, through Sarah Todd, and they clearly did 867 00:38:20.199 --> 00:38:22.719 the messaging that the last three years have been a 868 00:38:22.760 --> 00:38:27.559 tear down and the rebuild begins now, I'm like, dude, 869 00:38:28.199 --> 00:38:30.920 who are you fooling? Who do you think you're talking to? 870 00:38:31.480 --> 00:38:34.079 And you know what, Tony, that's an admission of a 871 00:38:34.239 --> 00:38:37.360 failure because you can break down look at what the 872 00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:38.840 Celtics have done this offseason. 873 00:38:38.920 --> 00:38:41.840 You can break down teams quickly. 874 00:38:42.320 --> 00:38:44.400 It like if you decide to move on from Gobert 875 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.320 and Mitchell and Quinn and Dennis take off. Okay, fine, 876 00:38:47.360 --> 00:38:49.000 that's true that you bought the team. The man with 877 00:38:49.000 --> 00:38:50.599 the gold makes the rules. You bought the house. You 878 00:38:50.639 --> 00:38:53.559 can buy the furniture, I get it, but take all 879 00:38:53.559 --> 00:38:55.519 the furniture out of once and remodel. Don't take a 880 00:38:55.559 --> 00:38:57.239 couch out here and then decide you're gonna do the 881 00:38:57.239 --> 00:38:59.880 bedroom later, like get it done. And the fact that 882 00:38:59.920 --> 00:39:03.360 you claim that you were intentionally breaking it down for 883 00:39:03.440 --> 00:39:07.519 three years to start the rebuild now is a almost 884 00:39:07.519 --> 00:39:11.280 an embarrassing angle of messaging. Like the messaging messaging has 885 00:39:11.320 --> 00:39:15.039 been clunky. I just think you get on the same page. Okay, 886 00:39:15.360 --> 00:39:18.679 we made some mistakes, and I'm not talking about the 887 00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.320 yellow jerseys. I'm talking about your personnel. I don't give 888 00:39:21.360 --> 00:39:22.400 a rip about the laundry. 889 00:39:22.400 --> 00:39:24.880 That was embarrassing, but whatever, No, I don't I don't 890 00:39:24.920 --> 00:39:27.840 care about that anything, but just talking about what watch, yes, exactly. 891 00:39:27.920 --> 00:39:28.079 Yeah. 892 00:39:28.159 --> 00:39:30.119 And then people are like, well, who's the blame? You know, 893 00:39:30.159 --> 00:39:30.639 who's the blame? 894 00:39:30.679 --> 00:39:31.079 Who is it? 895 00:39:31.119 --> 00:39:33.320 This guy is that that guy's I'm like, well, I'm 896 00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:35.599 not in their offices, I'm not in the meetings. I'm 897 00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.559 not I don't know the backstory. I don't know whose 898 00:39:38.679 --> 00:39:41.480 expectation and commitment level might have been skewed. I've got 899 00:39:41.519 --> 00:39:43.800 no idea, but I always use the same example. Some 900 00:39:43.840 --> 00:39:46.280 comedian used this one day. He's like, you know, I've 901 00:39:46.320 --> 00:39:48.760 never flown a helicopter in my life. I would never 902 00:39:48.760 --> 00:39:51.119 know how to fly a helicopter, So I'm not going 903 00:39:51.199 --> 00:39:55.000 to pretend like that I do. But if I see 904 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:57.480 one in a tree, I know someone screwed up and 905 00:39:57.559 --> 00:40:01.280 I know something's gone wrong. So if you see we no, no, no, 906 00:40:01.320 --> 00:40:04.039 this is what we were doing, I don't believe you. 907 00:40:04.320 --> 00:40:05.800 And then and for you to be like, well, you 908 00:40:05.800 --> 00:40:07.400 weren't there, you didn't see what happened, It's like, no, 909 00:40:07.440 --> 00:40:11.119 I got it, but I saw what happened. And you 910 00:40:11.159 --> 00:40:14.119 can't tell me that everything's going according to plan when 911 00:40:14.159 --> 00:40:16.559 it looks like this, because it's not going according to plan. 912 00:40:16.639 --> 00:40:19.000 Now it might going forward, but just because it does 913 00:40:19.039 --> 00:40:21.119 going forward doesn't mean you can sell to me. Like 914 00:40:21.199 --> 00:40:23.320 quit trying to sell to me the last three years. 915 00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.199 Let's just let's own it and let's go. And I 916 00:40:26.239 --> 00:40:29.079 think that would actually do a lot of people a 917 00:40:29.119 --> 00:40:31.480 huge favor to just say, yeah, this didn't go as 918 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:34.519 quickly or as methodically as we'd hoped. But here's what 919 00:40:34.559 --> 00:40:36.599 we do have a lot to work with going forward. 920 00:40:36.679 --> 00:40:38.679 We've got a brilliant mind. We just hired back in here. 921 00:40:38.679 --> 00:40:40.800 Now we've got a number of other people in place. 922 00:40:40.880 --> 00:40:43.159 I think this coaching staff is loaded and ready. By 923 00:40:43.159 --> 00:40:45.639 the way, you have two other two assistants on this 924 00:40:45.679 --> 00:40:49.039 staff who've been G League head coaches, who understand development. 925 00:40:49.079 --> 00:40:50.000 But here's the other thing. They know. 926 00:40:50.159 --> 00:40:52.119 They know exactly how to serve a head coach and 927 00:40:52.159 --> 00:40:53.719 to make his life a lot better. This is an 928 00:40:53.719 --> 00:40:57.519 outstanding move with that staff, outstanding move at the front office. 929 00:40:57.880 --> 00:41:00.559 Does Ace work out? That's a huge question, and you 930 00:41:00.599 --> 00:41:02.360 know that's all part of this. You're not going to 931 00:41:02.400 --> 00:41:06.159 pad a thousand. Hey, what made Reggie Jackson awesome was 932 00:41:06.199 --> 00:41:07.320 they struck out a ton. 933 00:41:07.239 --> 00:41:08.920 But men did. He had a bunch of home runs. 934 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:11.519 Okay, yep, so you're going to strike out, but you 935 00:41:11.559 --> 00:41:13.679 can't match those strikeouts with singles. You got to hit 936 00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.880 some on the burrel too. So that's where this is 937 00:41:15.880 --> 00:41:17.440 going to be fun to watch this whole process. 938 00:41:17.519 --> 00:41:17.719 Yeah. 939 00:41:17.719 --> 00:41:20.920 They last year they released a documentary they did on 940 00:41:21.000 --> 00:41:24.079 fifty years of the Utah Jazz YEP, and the early 941 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.760 stuff was awesome, and then you get to the modern 942 00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:29.199 day stuff and it's like I'm watching Ryan Smith's you 943 00:41:29.320 --> 00:41:31.719 Jumpers in the qual tricks office answering questions. 944 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.039 I'm like, what's going on? But the snapshot that kind of. 945 00:41:35.079 --> 00:41:37.880 Made me roll my eyes a little bit is Will 946 00:41:38.000 --> 00:41:39.719 Hardy looks at the camera. He's like, this is now 947 00:41:39.760 --> 00:41:42.360 your grandfather's Utah jazz. I'm like, okay, well, then who 948 00:41:42.400 --> 00:41:46.920 are you? That's like, okay, you're trying to shed yourself 949 00:41:46.960 --> 00:41:52.000 from a very successful thirty thirty five year run under 950 00:41:52.239 --> 00:41:54.920 you know, Saan Battiston, then the Miller Stewardship. I get 951 00:41:54.920 --> 00:41:57.039 that you're trying to do your own thing, but what 952 00:41:57.239 --> 00:42:00.440 is the thing, Because to your point, it's not the fable, 953 00:42:00.559 --> 00:42:03.360 there's nothing you can point to. Culture to me is 954 00:42:03.960 --> 00:42:07.519 always a real thing if you can be reductive and 955 00:42:07.559 --> 00:42:10.320 define it without getting lost in minutia. And I feel 956 00:42:10.360 --> 00:42:12.119 like that's all I get from them over there. It's 957 00:42:12.159 --> 00:42:15.440 different messaging from year to year, but whatever. One more 958 00:42:15.559 --> 00:42:17.320 jazz thing here though, because I have not had you 959 00:42:17.400 --> 00:42:20.760 on air, Tony since the passing of Frank Yeah, man, 960 00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.639 So you know, Frank was like a second father to me. 961 00:42:24.159 --> 00:42:27.920 I allocated my entire Monday show to him. With the 962 00:42:27.960 --> 00:42:29.199 help of Richard Smith. 963 00:42:29.239 --> 00:42:31.159 We had my father on, we had Scott Layden on, 964 00:42:32.159 --> 00:42:34.679 We had Rod McBride on. We've had a bunch of 965 00:42:35.079 --> 00:42:38.719 former Jazz staffers on to talk about Frank and Frank 966 00:42:38.800 --> 00:42:41.239 was part of a documentary the CASL did about the 967 00:42:41.280 --> 00:42:43.239 eighty three eighty four Jazz. It was the team that 968 00:42:43.360 --> 00:42:46.119 was like, okay, we might make it. We made the playoffs. 969 00:42:46.519 --> 00:42:49.159 Frank coach of the year, Executive of the year. You know, 970 00:42:49.280 --> 00:42:51.239 they draft John the draft car. Then away we go, 971 00:42:51.719 --> 00:42:54.159 And one of the snapshot moments was Frank saying there 972 00:42:54.159 --> 00:42:55.679 are no bad cities. 973 00:42:55.840 --> 00:42:58.119 There are only bad organizations, right. 974 00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:02.079 But mostly I wanted to get your take on your 975 00:43:02.119 --> 00:43:04.800 experience with him, because I can recall being to the 976 00:43:04.840 --> 00:43:07.679 ballpark oftentimes and it's time for the seventh inning stretch 977 00:43:07.719 --> 00:43:10.239 and you walk over there and Frank grabs the mic 978 00:43:10.280 --> 00:43:12.159 and away we go. So I know that you knew 979 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:14.519 him well, Tony, So before we catch a break, your 980 00:43:14.519 --> 00:43:16.320 thoughts on the life and legacy of Frank Layton. 981 00:43:16.320 --> 00:43:18.599 Oh, it's personal. I mean that guy. A lot of 982 00:43:18.639 --> 00:43:20.239 people didn't know this well. 983 00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:22.639 My mom and I first came over here, and you know, 984 00:43:22.679 --> 00:43:24.920 i'd take care of myself at knights and stuff like that, 985 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.760 and she would be working a lot of waitressing shifts 986 00:43:27.800 --> 00:43:30.280 and bartending shifts and all of that. And she worked 987 00:43:30.320 --> 00:43:32.800 at a place called Annabels, and one of her regulars 988 00:43:32.880 --> 00:43:35.559 with Barbara and Frank Layton, and she connected with them 989 00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:37.039 and they connected with her, and it was a really 990 00:43:37.079 --> 00:43:39.000 special thing. And man, they tipped well, and they were 991 00:43:39.000 --> 00:43:42.119 so generous and you know, so humble. The fact that 992 00:43:42.199 --> 00:43:45.480 Frank would admit, you know, it was when Jerry introduced 993 00:43:45.480 --> 00:43:48.199 a high pick and roll. That's when the theme in 994 00:43:48.320 --> 00:43:50.320 another level. And they weren't gonna do that with me. 995 00:43:50.440 --> 00:43:53.199 I just didn't have some of the acumen Jerry had 996 00:43:53.320 --> 00:43:56.599 to say that to be in the world of egotistical maniacs, 997 00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:58.639 for him to go on a show like Dazzling Dunks 998 00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:00.760 and Basketball Bloopers, to be able to make himself And 999 00:44:00.800 --> 00:44:02.639 by the way, I have a special message, Hi mom. 1000 00:44:02.880 --> 00:44:04.960 What a beautiful tribute to his mother who passed away 1001 00:44:05.000 --> 00:44:07.719 with during his childbirth. You know, like this guy just 1002 00:44:07.760 --> 00:44:10.000 always found a beautiful way to weave in wonderful messages. 1003 00:44:10.079 --> 00:44:13.559 Was incredibly supportive to me personally throughout so many things. 1004 00:44:13.760 --> 00:44:15.920 I'll never forget all the conversations we had after the 1005 00:44:15.960 --> 00:44:17.639 seventh inning stretch because that would be when I'm pretty 1006 00:44:17.679 --> 00:44:18.840 much done. I would sit there with him for two 1007 00:44:18.840 --> 00:44:21.440 and a half inches and Frank and Smitty and I 1008 00:44:21.519 --> 00:44:24.360 would tell stories and laugh, and they were just wonderful messages, 1009 00:44:24.400 --> 00:44:26.800 wonderful history. The stories he told me about Larry Miller, 1010 00:44:27.199 --> 00:44:29.679 ways that the organization changed, that Larry changed. 1011 00:44:29.760 --> 00:44:31.599 That goes like Larry a lot of credit. 1012 00:44:31.679 --> 00:44:34.800 He took the lesson well and he formulated it and 1013 00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:38.280 it turned into something beautiful. I mean, cornerstone moments. He 1014 00:44:38.360 --> 00:44:40.360 took me behind the veil so many times. I'm like, 1015 00:44:40.519 --> 00:44:43.599 no way. He's like, that's when it happened, you know, 1016 00:44:43.639 --> 00:44:46.280 and he but he was. He was okay to own 1017 00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:47.480 his own mistakes and. 1018 00:44:47.440 --> 00:44:50.199 I was still better here. I need to let that go. 1019 00:44:50.480 --> 00:44:50.679 You know. 1020 00:44:50.920 --> 00:44:53.320 Just wow, man, Like so we had and the guy 1021 00:44:53.440 --> 00:44:54.960 was at Jackie Robinson's first game. 1022 00:44:55.519 --> 00:44:58.159 The fact that he was like, yeah, he's writers who were. 1023 00:44:58.000 --> 00:45:00.639 Like, oh, half the fans were him. 1024 00:45:00.960 --> 00:45:03.960 It was Brooklyn. We were in the graded. Nobody cared, 1025 00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:04.840 you're making it up. 1026 00:45:05.159 --> 00:45:08.440 He's like, you know, Cleveland or Philly or Boston, sure, 1027 00:45:08.760 --> 00:45:13.760 but this was Brooklyn. Everything about him was honesty, authenticity, true, 1028 00:45:13.880 --> 00:45:16.840 genuine kind heart. And I'll never forget it as fast 1029 00:45:16.840 --> 00:45:18.760 as I can wrap that up like he connected with 1030 00:45:18.800 --> 00:45:19.280 my mom there. 1031 00:45:19.320 --> 00:45:21.039 Many years later he and I become friends. 1032 00:45:21.400 --> 00:45:23.000 Then all of a sudden, I introduced he and my 1033 00:45:23.039 --> 00:45:25.000 mom back to each other, and it was like they 1034 00:45:25.000 --> 00:45:27.039 picked up right where they left off. Yeah, fifty two 1035 00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.199 minutes straight, a lot of Brooklyn in that room and 1036 00:45:29.320 --> 00:45:30.159 they just went off. 1037 00:45:30.360 --> 00:45:32.360 That's very cool, and I'm like, what's going on here? 1038 00:45:32.440 --> 00:45:32.639 You know? 1039 00:45:32.800 --> 00:45:34.679 So He'll always be a dear friend of mine and 1040 00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:36.800 big thanks to Smitty and also great job Scott lad 1041 00:45:36.800 --> 00:45:37.880 and everybody at the service. 1042 00:45:38.039 --> 00:45:39.079 It was special for sure. 1043 00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:41.199 All Right, before we catch a break, Like any good coach, 1044 00:45:41.239 --> 00:45:43.199 it's time to update the game plan for a healthy 1045 00:45:43.239 --> 00:45:46.239 green lawn. As the hot weather continues this month, make 1046 00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.840 sure you're using i FHA's Step three Summer Lawn Food 1047 00:45:48.840 --> 00:45:51.719 for healthy turf that stays green and every season i 1048 00:45:51.920 --> 00:45:54.199 FA Step three Lawn Food. It's the ultimate lawn owner 1049 00:45:54.239 --> 00:45:56.840 power move at IFA brit. 1050 00:45:56.880 --> 00:45:58.000 Dave Fox and Studio. 1051 00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:02.760 It was on TV with Dave last night ten thirty five. KMYU, 1052 00:46:02.840 --> 00:46:05.960 we call it five Questions or Spence. Bill Ridley will 1053 00:46:05.960 --> 00:46:09.199 stop by as well. Kurt Schmidt Tony Parks does some 1054 00:46:09.320 --> 00:46:12.559 TV over on KMYU from time to time talking bees 1055 00:46:12.599 --> 00:46:15.599 and Tony's live in studio for another segment. 1056 00:46:15.599 --> 00:46:17.199 I always appreciate Tony's time. 1057 00:46:17.719 --> 00:46:22.239 All Right, five wins for Utah football year one in 1058 00:46:22.280 --> 00:46:25.880 the Big twelve. It feels like, and this is a 1059 00:46:25.920 --> 00:46:30.159 testament to coach wit. It feels like they are getting 1060 00:46:30.159 --> 00:46:32.199 the benefit of the doubt from a lot of people 1061 00:46:32.239 --> 00:46:35.320 as far as their ability to bounce back. Vegas has 1062 00:46:35.360 --> 00:46:38.960 the over under for Utah wins at seven point five. 1063 00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:43.719 If I give you eight wins for Utah football, would 1064 00:46:43.760 --> 00:46:46.280 you take that as a successful season based off of 1065 00:46:46.320 --> 00:46:50.239 expectations and the myriad of changes on the coaching staffs 1066 00:46:50.239 --> 00:46:51.000 and with the personnel. 1067 00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:55.039 If it's eight and you were contending for most of 1068 00:46:55.039 --> 00:46:59.519 the year and your other four, you're looking at being 1069 00:46:59.599 --> 00:47:03.639 right there. Sure, But if you're out classed and it's 1070 00:47:03.760 --> 00:47:07.400 clear that there's a gap between you and anybody else 1071 00:47:07.400 --> 00:47:10.639 who can contend for a playoff spot, no, So it's 1072 00:47:10.719 --> 00:47:12.159 kind of weird. You know, you go eight and four, 1073 00:47:12.199 --> 00:47:13.519 you're like, hey, would you take that? It's like, well, 1074 00:47:13.679 --> 00:47:16.280 there's different kinds of eight and four. If you limp 1075 00:47:16.320 --> 00:47:17.920 your way at eight and four because you beat up 1076 00:47:17.920 --> 00:47:20.800 on teams that barely had a pulse, and you're like, 1077 00:47:20.800 --> 00:47:22.800 but it was better than what we just did. It's like, yeah, 1078 00:47:22.920 --> 00:47:25.840 improvement and sufficiency are two different things. So I think 1079 00:47:25.840 --> 00:47:28.159 it really, to me depends on how they compete, how 1080 00:47:28.159 --> 00:47:31.360 they contend. Last year really surprised me. I think it's 1081 00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:35.719 also really eye opening that I think it was interesting. 1082 00:47:35.920 --> 00:47:38.159 Last year was kind of the first season of a 1083 00:47:38.199 --> 00:47:41.039 new era. I know the era started earlier, but it 1084 00:47:41.079 --> 00:47:43.719 was the first season where it truly felt like all 1085 00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:47.760 of college football moved into this new business, this new 1086 00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:49.199 understanding about what it takes. 1087 00:47:49.320 --> 00:47:51.039 And I'm not saying Utah wasn't willing to do what 1088 00:47:51.119 --> 00:47:51.480 it takes. 1089 00:47:51.760 --> 00:47:54.280 I'm saying that Utah was having to adjust to the 1090 00:47:54.320 --> 00:47:56.960 way they do things, which they have certain things that 1091 00:47:57.000 --> 00:48:00.360 they will not bend on and they shouldn't, and then 1092 00:48:00.440 --> 00:48:04.000 also trying to adjust to the new era of college 1093 00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:07.360 football all at once. You could see, like clearly like 1094 00:48:07.800 --> 00:48:10.159 there's an adjustment there. One thing I know about Kyle Winningham, 1095 00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:14.840 historically he's adjusted better than maybe any coach I've ever seen. 1096 00:48:15.400 --> 00:48:17.760 With the new eras right, I mean, there was post 1097 00:48:17.880 --> 00:48:23.800 urban social media PAC twelve, I mean everything COVID sadly 1098 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:26.880 death of players, right, like everything that's going on. So 1099 00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:29.320 now it's not just the back twelve transition. It's this 1100 00:48:29.360 --> 00:48:32.519 new era that exists in the world of what a 1101 00:48:32.559 --> 00:48:36.920 player expects, how you manage player and personnel, everything that 1102 00:48:36.960 --> 00:48:37.480 it comes with. 1103 00:48:37.519 --> 00:48:38.760 Now it's very unique and different. 1104 00:48:38.800 --> 00:48:42.800 It's a really good point because I do think there 1105 00:48:42.800 --> 00:48:46.239 are and we all exist in our own echo chambers. 1106 00:48:46.280 --> 00:48:46.480 Right. 1107 00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:49.760 So when I say I feel like there are youth fans, 1108 00:48:50.760 --> 00:48:52.960 I'm basically talking about the youth fans that are kind 1109 00:48:53.000 --> 00:48:56.440 of in my ecosystem that I talk to and hear from, 1110 00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:59.280 whether it's direct messages, social media, or just talking to 1111 00:48:59.320 --> 00:49:03.159 people around town. I think there are legitimate questions that 1112 00:49:03.519 --> 00:49:06.400 certain members of this fan base have as to whether 1113 00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:13.800 or not this athletic department has efficiently you know, translated, 1114 00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:16.719 or you know, kind of transitioned, I guess is the 1115 00:49:16.760 --> 00:49:19.039 better way to say it into this new world of 1116 00:49:19.039 --> 00:49:23.639 college athletics, because I think you put it well last year, 1117 00:49:23.719 --> 00:49:26.800 did feel like, Okay, we now have had a couple 1118 00:49:26.840 --> 00:49:28.760 of years of nil, We've had a couple of years 1119 00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:32.960 of transfer portal, the seismic shifts in the landscapes of 1120 00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.400 conferences appear to have settled for now. It's one of 1121 00:49:36.440 --> 00:49:39.119 those things that's always permeating under the scenes that it 1122 00:49:39.159 --> 00:49:42.000 could really manifest again at the drop of a hat. 1123 00:49:42.400 --> 00:49:44.800 If there's anything we've learned about college football and college 1124 00:49:44.840 --> 00:49:47.079 athletics over the past five years, as it has changed, 1125 00:49:47.159 --> 00:49:51.079 is going to be constant. But last year felt like, Okay, 1126 00:49:51.199 --> 00:49:52.039 PAC twelve's dead. 1127 00:49:52.119 --> 00:49:54.559 We know the deal. Everyone's in the new conferences. We 1128 00:49:54.599 --> 00:49:55.039 know the deal. 1129 00:49:55.079 --> 00:49:57.280 Of course, there's still some shifting with the new PAC twelve, 1130 00:49:57.320 --> 00:50:00.599 but the Big twelve is set. ACC is set Big ten, 1131 00:50:00.800 --> 00:50:03.280 SEC all set P four conferences sets settled in. 1132 00:50:04.039 --> 00:50:04.400 Okay. 1133 00:50:04.440 --> 00:50:08.400 Now everybody has had ample time to adjust to what 1134 00:50:08.519 --> 00:50:12.239 is now normal, And the fact that Utah won five 1135 00:50:12.360 --> 00:50:17.320 games I think is probably permeating in people's minds with 1136 00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:21.880 questions like, okay, is this is this athletic department doing 1137 00:50:21.920 --> 00:50:24.559 what it has to do to compete at the highest 1138 00:50:24.559 --> 00:50:27.639 of levels in this new era. So I feel like 1139 00:50:27.679 --> 00:50:31.519 there's actually pressure on Utah football this year in a 1140 00:50:31.559 --> 00:50:34.280 way that last year the pressure was we all thought 1141 00:50:34.280 --> 00:50:36.360 they were gonna win the thing right. Last year the 1142 00:50:36.400 --> 00:50:38.559 pressure was Vegas picked them to win the Big twelve. 1143 00:50:38.960 --> 00:50:41.119 National Football Riders for the most part, picked them to 1144 00:50:41.159 --> 00:50:41.920 win the Big Twelve. 1145 00:50:41.960 --> 00:50:44.239 Local media picked them to win the Big Twelve. 1146 00:50:44.639 --> 00:50:46.639 So the targets on your back last year is the 1147 00:50:46.639 --> 00:50:49.320 team that we thought was gonna win it. That target 1148 00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:51.039 is not on their back this year. There are there 1149 00:50:51.039 --> 00:50:53.920 are some people that believe Utah will win the Big Twelve, 1150 00:50:54.000 --> 00:50:58.119 but it's not a consensus, not close. So to me, 1151 00:50:58.199 --> 00:51:00.559 the target this year feels different. It's it's not Okay, 1152 00:51:00.639 --> 00:51:03.920 you're the favorite, everyone's hunting you. It's you need to 1153 00:51:03.920 --> 00:51:05.960 prove to this community, in this fan base. You're doing 1154 00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:07.760 what you need to do to adjust to the new 1155 00:51:07.800 --> 00:51:08.760 normal college football. 1156 00:51:08.840 --> 00:51:10.599 Yeah, do you have the commitment to do what it takes. 1157 00:51:11.000 --> 00:51:14.039 And Utah's teams have had great success and probably even 1158 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:18.840 overachieved at times without people knowing it because they weren't 1159 00:51:18.960 --> 00:51:21.960 just talented and there was a great culture and all that. 1160 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:24.599 They could manage a program that was very devoted to 1161 00:51:24.639 --> 00:51:27.920 the team, devoted to the culture and the cause. I 1162 00:51:27.960 --> 00:51:30.400 think that's a very hard thing to do now in 1163 00:51:30.440 --> 00:51:34.519 this era of college football. You're managing eighty different free agents, 1164 00:51:35.079 --> 00:51:38.880 you're managing eighty different expectations. You could manage that before, 1165 00:51:39.559 --> 00:51:42.280 but there was a very straight level of what it 1166 00:51:42.280 --> 00:51:42.760 would take. 1167 00:51:42.679 --> 00:51:43.199 To manage it. 1168 00:51:43.280 --> 00:51:47.679 Now there's variables you can't measure, variables you can't underestimate, 1169 00:51:47.679 --> 00:51:50.480 and by the way, variables. I don't envy any coach 1170 00:51:50.840 --> 00:51:54.679 that have to manage in basketball or football in any way. 1171 00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:57.119 I really think that this is something that anybody who 1172 00:51:57.519 --> 00:51:59.360 tries to pretend they have a full grasp on it, 1173 00:51:59.440 --> 00:52:02.480 they don't. And I think last year showed some programs 1174 00:52:02.800 --> 00:52:05.800 really got to jump ahead to show an advantage that 1175 00:52:05.880 --> 00:52:06.920 maybe people didn't know they had. 1176 00:52:06.920 --> 00:52:08.159 Arizona State was one of those. 1177 00:52:08.239 --> 00:52:10.719 We were like, Wow, they they really figured out how 1178 00:52:10.719 --> 00:52:12.920 to do this in a way that the previous era 1179 00:52:12.960 --> 00:52:15.440 they didn't have this kind of success, and so I 1180 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:17.119 think that's going to be eye opening on how they 1181 00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:19.599 do it. I think BYU has great advantages in that 1182 00:52:19.960 --> 00:52:21.880 I think Utah can have them. 1183 00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:24.000 But now there's a different way. 1184 00:52:24.000 --> 00:52:26.000 You almost have to completely you have to manage it 1185 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:27.559 like a pro sports team almost. 1186 00:52:27.679 --> 00:52:29.400 And I can't say I have all the answers. I'm 1187 00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:30.320 gonna be honest, I don't. 1188 00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:32.920 And I really feel for a guy in any coach 1189 00:52:32.920 --> 00:52:35.719 in any situation that's been from the previous era now 1190 00:52:35.760 --> 00:52:37.639 have an acclimate to this because so many of the 1191 00:52:37.719 --> 00:52:40.639 things you may have to do were counterintuitive to what 1192 00:52:40.679 --> 00:52:41.320 you've done before. 1193 00:52:41.400 --> 00:52:42.480 Yeah, you know. 1194 00:52:42.800 --> 00:52:47.920 And the pressure also includes a community that is probably 1195 00:52:48.519 --> 00:52:52.360 looking for improvement in order for them to up their investments. 1196 00:52:52.360 --> 00:52:53.320 Oh that's where this is. 1197 00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.519 All right, be a never ending thing and it's interesting, Tony, Like, 1198 00:52:57.000 --> 00:52:58.519 you know, this is the time of year where we 1199 00:52:58.519 --> 00:53:01.039 were in Dallas for Big twelve Media Day and then 1200 00:53:01.159 --> 00:53:02.280 SEC in Atlanta. 1201 00:53:02.760 --> 00:53:04.039 The Big Ten was in Vegas. 1202 00:53:04.719 --> 00:53:07.280 I'm listening to all these coaches because I really I've 1203 00:53:07.320 --> 00:53:10.360 always loved listening to coaches. I think coaches make the 1204 00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:14.639 best color commentators on broadcasts, whether it's basketball, football, or baseball. 1205 00:53:14.679 --> 00:53:16.440 All due respect to a lot of X players, some 1206 00:53:16.480 --> 00:53:19.079 of them do a great job. All of my favorite 1207 00:53:19.119 --> 00:53:22.920 color commentators in pro basketball have always been coaches. Loved 1208 00:53:23.000 --> 00:53:26.840 Hubie Right, loved Van Gandhi. Obviously I loved how ESPN 1209 00:53:26.960 --> 00:53:28.760 was like, we're firing Jeff because we're afraid he's going 1210 00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:30.840 to take a coaching job, and we're hiring jj Reddick. 1211 00:53:30.920 --> 00:53:32.760 Oh he's now with the Lakers. Like, good job, way 1212 00:53:32.800 --> 00:53:33.000 to go. 1213 00:53:34.039 --> 00:53:37.320 So I've always been fascinated in whenever I have an opportunity. 1214 00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:39.840 If a coach is at a podium, I listen right 1215 00:53:40.360 --> 00:53:43.519 and over the past four years, every time, whether it's 1216 00:53:43.599 --> 00:53:46.360 Kyle or Klannie, and look, not every time if they're 1217 00:53:46.360 --> 00:53:48.719 asked about a game, but if they're just addressing people, 1218 00:53:49.639 --> 00:53:52.760 they are pleading with the community. We need investment from him. 1219 00:53:53.400 --> 00:53:57.039 And it's a new ask. Whether it's UTAH or by 1220 00:53:57.159 --> 00:54:00.360 U or LSU or whoever. It's no longer like we 1221 00:54:00.360 --> 00:54:02.239 need you to buy season tickets, we need you to 1222 00:54:02.239 --> 00:54:05.159 buy food and bev and merch. It's no we need 1223 00:54:05.159 --> 00:54:08.000 you to donate to the collective. We need you to 1224 00:54:08.280 --> 00:54:10.320 if you're a business owner, we need you to come 1225 00:54:10.400 --> 00:54:13.239 up with creative ways to include these athletes. Like the 1226 00:54:13.440 --> 00:54:16.280 ask of the community now is a much different thing 1227 00:54:16.320 --> 00:54:18.679 on a much higher level. And if they win four 1228 00:54:18.760 --> 00:54:21.960 or five games again this year, that's a bad omen. 1229 00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:23.679 That's going to say to a lot of people, like 1230 00:54:23.760 --> 00:54:26.639 are you ready to adjust to the new landscape of 1231 00:54:26.679 --> 00:54:29.400 college football? So the bullseye last year was you're the favorite. 1232 00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:31.320 The bulls eye this year is there's a community that's 1233 00:54:31.360 --> 00:54:35.119 going wait a second, you're one in a new conference. Okay, 1234 00:54:35.159 --> 00:54:36.639 we all thought you were going to be this and 1235 00:54:36.679 --> 00:54:39.519 you're ultimately not right. So you got to show us 1236 00:54:39.559 --> 00:54:41.360 that you're heading in the right direction and you know 1237 00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:42.639 what you need to do to adjust. 1238 00:54:42.679 --> 00:54:43.519 I think that's a real thing. 1239 00:54:43.679 --> 00:54:47.880 Yeah, last year you you had an athletic director walk 1240 00:54:47.920 --> 00:54:49.480 on the field on the last play of the game 1241 00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:53.480 to get after a referee. Why do you think you 1242 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:57.039 did that? Everyone's like, why are the emotions of the 1243 00:54:57.119 --> 00:54:58.159 game and we've. 1244 00:54:58.000 --> 00:54:58.559 All been there. 1245 00:54:58.679 --> 00:55:03.519 No pressure. Pressure? Do you know how much pressure is there? 1246 00:55:04.079 --> 00:55:06.559 People going, Chris, he'll never have these problems. Do you 1247 00:55:06.559 --> 00:55:08.119 know how many people are blowing up that guy's phone 1248 00:55:08.199 --> 00:55:10.519 every fifteen minutes. He's got to listen to something and 1249 00:55:10.519 --> 00:55:12.440 it's exhausting his time, and he's going, Guys, I'm trying 1250 00:55:12.480 --> 00:55:14.480 to figure this out. Just let me do my job, right. 1251 00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:17.000 I'm not even saying I agree with his behavior. I'm 1252 00:55:17.000 --> 00:55:19.400 saying he's feeling pressure. It didn't come from the fact 1253 00:55:19.400 --> 00:55:22.880 that he just can't handle the rivalry and he just 1254 00:55:22.960 --> 00:55:24.719 wants to win so bad. No, he wants to win, 1255 00:55:25.079 --> 00:55:27.360 but he's also trying to manage so many different things 1256 00:55:27.400 --> 00:55:30.000 in an era that has never really been experienced before, 1257 00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:32.119 and it's never been a part of his experience. 1258 00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:33.039 Of the coaches experience. 1259 00:55:33.199 --> 00:55:36.559 Everybody's trying to figure it out, and the year didn't 1260 00:55:36.559 --> 00:55:37.519 go as well as they wanted. 1261 00:55:37.760 --> 00:55:39.519 And you know what really would have saved the whole 1262 00:55:39.599 --> 00:55:41.440 dang thing, beating BYU. 1263 00:55:41.760 --> 00:55:44.280 It'd have been like, hey, I got it, just give. 1264 00:55:44.159 --> 00:55:46.199 Us some time here. And they thought they had it 1265 00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:47.719 and then it went away. 1266 00:55:48.880 --> 00:55:51.559 And the whole entire time, he's feeling it because he 1267 00:55:51.639 --> 00:55:53.079 knows what the phone calls are going to be like. 1268 00:55:53.599 --> 00:55:55.079 He knows what that lunch is going to be like. 1269 00:55:55.119 --> 00:55:57.159 When he's sitting there rolling and the going I got it. 1270 00:55:57.199 --> 00:55:59.400 I hear you from people who don't get it, by 1271 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:01.199 the way, but yet he needs them to write two 1272 00:56:01.199 --> 00:56:03.280 Comma checks up and then he needs like this this 1273 00:56:03.360 --> 00:56:07.239 is I'm just explaining my perception of what I think happened. 1274 00:56:07.440 --> 00:56:08.320 Yeah, you don't do that. 1275 00:56:08.400 --> 00:56:10.760 I mean, the first thing I thought to myself when 1276 00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:12.800 I saw that wasn't what an idiot that. 1277 00:56:12.920 --> 00:56:14.000 It's all about him? 1278 00:56:14.239 --> 00:56:14.599 Huh. 1279 00:56:14.639 --> 00:56:16.119 You don't think the players. 1280 00:56:15.760 --> 00:56:16.239 Want to win? 1281 00:56:16.599 --> 00:56:21.320 No, it's pressure, unbelievable amounts of pressure. I think I 1282 00:56:21.360 --> 00:56:24.920 told you this. After the game, I'm walking home and 1283 00:56:24.960 --> 00:56:29.559 all of a sudden, my phone just goes oh yeah, like, 1284 00:56:29.719 --> 00:56:30.119 I had. 1285 00:56:30.039 --> 00:56:32.199 No idea this taxt phone calls. You know. 1286 00:56:32.239 --> 00:56:34.400 I stuck around for the game after I went over 1287 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:36.239 to say hi to Colanie and a Rod because those 1288 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:38.599 are my guys. Congratulations whatever, you know, kind of get 1289 00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:41.280 the feel of what everything was like. And so instead 1290 00:56:41.280 --> 00:56:42.559 of going to the pressure, I'm like, I'll watch you 1291 00:56:42.559 --> 00:56:45.639 when I get home. Boom, phone call after phone call? 1292 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:47.320 Are you listening to Mark Harlan? 1293 00:56:47.440 --> 00:56:49.599 Text after text? Did you hear what Mark just said? 1294 00:56:50.280 --> 00:56:52.639 And then somebody sent me because in the modern day 1295 00:56:52.639 --> 00:56:54.519 and age of social media, it's up on you know, 1296 00:56:54.599 --> 00:56:57.920 social like that, somebody sent me the video and I 1297 00:56:58.039 --> 00:56:59.480 was unaware at the time that he had got on 1298 00:56:59.519 --> 00:57:00.000 the field. 1299 00:57:00.000 --> 00:57:02.039 Didn't see that because I was actually down on the 1300 00:57:02.079 --> 00:57:02.679 south end. 1301 00:57:02.639 --> 00:57:05.519 Zone, so I did not have the view of Mark 1302 00:57:05.559 --> 00:57:08.119 actually going out on the field. And I watched the video, 1303 00:57:08.159 --> 00:57:13.360 I went, oh, my goodness, and just picture brett yor 1304 00:57:13.400 --> 00:57:19.000 Mark waking up, going like, Okay, really, dude, you're not 1305 00:57:19.280 --> 00:57:20.559 happy to be part of this conference? 1306 00:57:20.599 --> 00:57:21.199 Good luck, bro. 1307 00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:23.840 Like I actually was concerned because I like Mark. Mark's 1308 00:57:23.880 --> 00:57:25.519 been good to me. This is not an anti market 1309 00:57:25.559 --> 00:57:27.679 every time I've met it. I'm just giving a glimpse 1310 00:57:27.719 --> 00:57:29.320 into this is a new area. No, I want to 1311 00:57:29.320 --> 00:57:31.440 be clear, and I said the next day, my guess 1312 00:57:31.480 --> 00:57:33.119 is Mark wants to do over there, and we all 1313 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:35.400 need do overs in life. He probably want a moment, 1314 00:57:35.440 --> 00:57:37.239 probably wants them all again. Let's let's give them the 1315 00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:38.039 benefit of the doubt. 1316 00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:38.559 Totally. 1317 00:57:38.599 --> 00:57:42.519 I believe people deserve grace for things done via emotion. Okay, 1318 00:57:42.559 --> 00:57:45.360 so I'm not raking him over the coals, but I 1319 00:57:45.480 --> 00:57:49.519 was concerned that Brett yor Mark Northeast, don't mess with me, dude, 1320 00:57:49.559 --> 00:57:52.679 swim with the fishes was going to come down much 1321 00:57:52.719 --> 00:57:53.880 harder on Mark than he did. 1322 00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:56.079 But I think you bring a good point. 1323 00:57:56.199 --> 00:57:59.960 It's a microcosm of the pressure that is involved right now, 1324 00:58:00.639 --> 00:58:04.599 which makes this season Tony very interesting to cover from 1325 00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:07.119 the perspective of Utah football because the other thing that 1326 00:58:07.199 --> 00:58:11.679 has to be mentioned is the momentum in a lot 1327 00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:14.400 of ways has shifted about forty miles down south. 1328 00:58:15.159 --> 00:58:15.559 Utah. 1329 00:58:16.159 --> 00:58:19.880 Not just the football program, but the athletic department had 1330 00:58:19.880 --> 00:58:24.480 about a twelve year ish run of clear momentum, not 1331 00:58:24.599 --> 00:58:27.480 just results. It was a generation of Utah football dominance 1332 00:58:27.519 --> 00:58:30.920 over Brigham Young. The numbers bear that out, but Also, 1333 00:58:31.280 --> 00:58:34.719 there was this weird five six year period where Chase Hansen, 1334 00:58:34.880 --> 00:58:38.320 who played his high school football in BYU's backyard, comes 1335 00:58:38.320 --> 00:58:42.039 to Utah. Britten Covey, whose family name is on twenty 1336 00:58:42.079 --> 00:58:45.199 buildings in Provo, is a youth. There was this weird 1337 00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:49.480 kind of era where the momentum was up here and 1338 00:58:49.599 --> 00:58:51.519 BYU fans can get mad at that all you want, 1339 00:58:51.599 --> 00:58:54.000 but it is true. The data shows the n Everything 1340 00:58:54.000 --> 00:59:00.000 shows it now. We have to be honest, whether it's basketball, 1341 00:59:00.360 --> 00:59:03.119 certainly with what Kevin Young is built down there a 1342 00:59:03.119 --> 00:59:05.960 team that could make the Final Four this year, and 1343 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.239 an eleven win season a year ago in the Big Twelve, 1344 00:59:08.639 --> 00:59:11.480 A top twenty five recruiting class next year for BYU 1345 00:59:11.840 --> 00:59:14.159 on the football side of things, the best recruiting class 1346 00:59:14.199 --> 00:59:17.760 they've ever had. There's a feeling, and I don't think 1347 00:59:17.760 --> 00:59:19.800 it's just a feeling, because feelings aren't facts, but there's 1348 00:59:19.880 --> 00:59:22.239 a feeling that's backed up by a lot of data 1349 00:59:22.880 --> 00:59:26.480 that the momentum is now down there right. Another question 1350 00:59:26.559 --> 00:59:29.039 that Utah has to answer I think this year is 1351 00:59:29.159 --> 00:59:31.159 are you keeping up with your rival the way you 1352 00:59:31.199 --> 00:59:32.719 need to be keeping up with them? Well, the one 1353 00:59:32.719 --> 00:59:34.599 thing that I think really helped them in that PAC 1354 00:59:34.679 --> 00:59:38.400 twelve early era five and seven. You know, well, it's 1355 00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.440 patients and you need the depth to be and the 1356 00:59:40.480 --> 00:59:43.280 PAC twelve, and it was true, but the patience was 1357 00:59:43.320 --> 00:59:44.639 easier when you beat. 1358 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:46.719 BYU both those years. Yep, it just once. 1359 00:59:46.960 --> 00:59:48.880 And by the way, that's not just to this rivalry, 1360 00:59:48.960 --> 00:59:52.199 that's say any rivalry that'll happen. John Cooper went to 1361 00:59:52.280 --> 00:59:55.239 Rose Bowls and was unbelievable. Couldn't beat Michigan out as 1362 00:59:55.239 --> 00:59:57.199 simple as that. If they had expanded to a twelve 1363 00:59:57.239 --> 00:59:59.800 team playoff, he might have won to Natty's I'm not kidding, 1364 01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:02.760 but they didn't. And that's when it was almost single 1365 01:00:02.800 --> 01:00:06.000 elimination and so he couldn't even survive. And they brought 1366 01:00:06.000 --> 01:00:08.159 it up about Team GPA, which we all knew was 1367 01:00:08.199 --> 01:00:11.280 a lie. So anyway, in this situation here, no that 1368 01:00:11.880 --> 01:00:16.159 it goes without even saying that. When this new era 1369 01:00:16.239 --> 01:00:19.000 came around, I remember people saying, well, the. 1370 01:00:19.000 --> 01:00:19.840 Richard just gonna get rich. 1371 01:00:19.920 --> 01:00:22.880 I said, hold on, there are some programs now that 1372 01:00:22.960 --> 01:00:25.519 are really going to have a real chance more than 1373 01:00:25.519 --> 01:00:26.280 they did before. 1374 01:00:26.760 --> 01:00:28.000 Michigan was one of them. 1375 01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:30.239 You're going to see some other SEC teams that maybe 1376 01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.199 not had been household names before that could start to 1377 01:00:32.719 --> 01:00:35.840 rise up a little bit moreas a place like Arizona State. 1378 01:00:35.920 --> 01:00:38.800 The reason why is now because instead of Alabama having 1379 01:00:38.840 --> 01:00:41.880 the three best left tackles, now they have the very 1380 01:00:41.920 --> 01:00:45.119 best and the other two went somewhere else. So now 1381 01:00:45.159 --> 01:00:47.559 the depth gets spread out a little bit more. Plus, 1382 01:00:48.039 --> 01:00:51.039 the program that can organize funds the right way and 1383 01:00:51.159 --> 01:00:54.480 organize their program the right way to go into aligning 1384 01:00:54.519 --> 01:00:58.599 the individual's success and prosperity with the programs. The one 1385 01:00:58.599 --> 01:01:00.280 that knows how to manage it like a pro sports 1386 01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:02.159 team best is going to have a leg up on 1387 01:01:02.239 --> 01:01:04.199 the other. The one thing with BYU that I think 1388 01:01:04.280 --> 01:01:08.280 is an enormous advantage is you have those who are, well, 1389 01:01:08.280 --> 01:01:10.559 i'll put money in it if this or that happens, 1390 01:01:10.800 --> 01:01:12.159 and then you have those who are like, well, I'm 1391 01:01:12.159 --> 01:01:14.239 just putting money into it anyway because i just want 1392 01:01:14.239 --> 01:01:15.079 to be a part of the programs. 1393 01:01:15.679 --> 01:01:16.199 Yeah. 1394 01:01:16.199 --> 01:01:17.480 So there's a guy who plays with the Bees. His 1395 01:01:17.519 --> 01:01:20.280 name is Nico Cavadas. He played with Notre Dame and 1396 01:01:20.320 --> 01:01:22.440 he and I've talked about this about the way Notre 1397 01:01:22.519 --> 01:01:24.119 Dame has it. He's like, dude, there, guys, they'll just 1398 01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:26.519 do anything, just do anything, just to stand in the room, 1399 01:01:26.559 --> 01:01:28.280 just to I mean, they'll pay any amount of money, 1400 01:01:28.280 --> 01:01:31.400 blank check, whatever. And so Notre Dame is always going 1401 01:01:31.440 --> 01:01:33.679 to be like in the playoffs, They'll be in the 1402 01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:36.760 picture every year BYU. And I'm not going to say 1403 01:01:36.760 --> 01:01:39.559 they're the same thing, but they do have some similarity 1404 01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.360 with the number of people who will just pour the 1405 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:45.480 money in. Yeah, and it'll give BYU a little more 1406 01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:48.960 flexibility to course correct when they're not quite right. They 1407 01:01:49.079 --> 01:01:52.400 have a little more flexibility to course correct. Utah, I 1408 01:01:52.440 --> 01:01:55.039 don't think has as much room for air in this 1409 01:01:55.119 --> 01:01:55.599 next stretch. 1410 01:01:55.800 --> 01:01:57.199 I perceive that at least. 1411 01:01:57.039 --> 01:02:00.159 You know, in an interesting way. 1412 01:02:01.199 --> 01:02:02.800 And I'm just this is just kind of donning on 1413 01:02:02.840 --> 01:02:03.599 me in real time. 1414 01:02:04.639 --> 01:02:07.519 The religious tie to both Notre Dame and by U 1415 01:02:07.920 --> 01:02:13.000 in this dynamic is hugely beneficial because you know, there are. 1416 01:02:12.960 --> 01:02:14.039 So many religious people. 1417 01:02:14.039 --> 01:02:16.199 And I'm not saying this in a derogatory way that 1418 01:02:16.360 --> 01:02:19.679 just it's blind faith. It's I'm a believer, I'm all in. 1419 01:02:19.880 --> 01:02:22.199 There's nothing that would ever happen. I am ten toes 1420 01:02:22.239 --> 01:02:26.079 down with this religion, and my religion owns this institution. 1421 01:02:26.800 --> 01:02:29.840 And if I help this institution. I forward the message. 1422 01:02:29.960 --> 01:02:31.480 How much money do you need? 1423 01:02:32.199 --> 01:02:32.719 You know what I mean? 1424 01:02:32.800 --> 01:02:35.360 Oh, they're Nico told me there are people at Notre 1425 01:02:35.440 --> 01:02:37.840 Dame that would just do whatever it takes. 1426 01:02:37.880 --> 01:02:40.559 I am a Catholic, I love the Catholic Church. What 1427 01:02:40.719 --> 01:02:42.960 do I need to do to further the message of 1428 01:02:43.000 --> 01:02:45.920 the Catholic Church? Does that mean Notre Dame football needs 1429 01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:46.280 to be good? 1430 01:02:46.360 --> 01:02:49.360 Okay? Great, I'm a business owner. Here's twenty million dollars. Yes, 1431 01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:50.440 do you need my private plane? 1432 01:02:51.960 --> 01:02:52.000 Like? 1433 01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:52.360 Whatever? 1434 01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:55.519 Resource an interesting dynamics to consider it. I'm right, wrong 1435 01:02:55.559 --> 01:02:57.000 or indifferent, it's just part of the deal. 1436 01:02:57.199 --> 01:02:59.159 Does this player need a country club membership? 1437 01:02:59.159 --> 01:03:01.360 Does this play player one? I'm not kidding. 1438 01:03:01.360 --> 01:03:04.159 They'll they'll go to and and it's not even an insult. 1439 01:03:04.199 --> 01:03:06.000 It's just it's their passion, it's their money. This is 1440 01:03:06.000 --> 01:03:08.280 the way they want to spend it. And you get 1441 01:03:08.280 --> 01:03:10.000 the right number of people who want to pour money 1442 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:12.039 into it. Even if it's Ryan Smith, there's supportive of 1443 01:03:12.079 --> 01:03:14.719 b what right like and people are going, well, that's 1444 01:03:14.760 --> 01:03:16.599 not right, No, it's his money. That's the way this 1445 01:03:16.679 --> 01:03:19.320 era is right now. Yeah, And the messaging is like, okay, 1446 01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:21.800 so you're telling me that if we get ajdbantsa, we 1447 01:03:21.840 --> 01:03:24.840 play yukon of the Garden in November, and so suddenly 1448 01:03:24.880 --> 01:03:28.039 millions of people are exposed to BYU and therefore, by proxy, 1449 01:03:28.039 --> 01:03:29.400 they're exposed to the church I love. 1450 01:03:29.480 --> 01:03:31.679 Here's my money. There you go. It's really interesting to 1451 01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:32.519 consider you man. 1452 01:03:32.559 --> 01:03:35.280 Well, when this first came out, I was like, BYU basketball, 1453 01:03:35.320 --> 01:03:37.320 I thought I was shocked that they weren't better earlier 1454 01:03:37.360 --> 01:03:37.840 in this era. 1455 01:03:38.119 --> 01:03:39.000 And I kept telling you that. 1456 01:03:39.360 --> 01:03:40.960 And now with the way they've lined it up with 1457 01:03:40.960 --> 01:03:43.400 the coach, with the funds, now you just need it 1458 01:03:43.440 --> 01:03:45.320 to come together in terms of performance. Now it's how 1459 01:03:45.360 --> 01:03:47.480 you manage it. But they have the resources they need 1460 01:03:47.519 --> 01:03:50.519 because fewer players, but you just need the few stars 1461 01:03:50.519 --> 01:03:53.159 who really shine and you're gonna get what you need there. 1462 01:03:53.199 --> 01:03:55.159 And then with football it's spread out a little bit more. 1463 01:03:55.440 --> 01:03:56.960 So you got to go in on quarterback. You know, 1464 01:03:57.000 --> 01:04:01.000 some skill position, key defensive players. But by you will 1465 01:04:01.039 --> 01:04:02.920 have the chance to make that happen. That's why you 1466 01:04:02.920 --> 01:04:05.760 know when you see the situation. Obviously with you know, 1467 01:04:05.840 --> 01:04:08.960 an offseason that involves players switching and things like that's 1468 01:04:08.960 --> 01:04:11.039 gonna happen a little more often. It's why I've told you, 1469 01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:12.480 and I came on the show as a guest one 1470 01:04:12.519 --> 01:04:14.519 time and said we need to make it okay for 1471 01:04:14.599 --> 01:04:16.840 them to say I got a better offer. I'm sorry, 1472 01:04:17.039 --> 01:04:18.920 I got a better offer, and I'm going to BYU 1473 01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:20.360 or I'm going here or I'm going there. 1474 01:04:20.400 --> 01:04:22.159 Yeah, one more thing, toe it. I'll set you loose. 1475 01:04:23.039 --> 01:04:27.159 DraftKings over under BYU eight point five, Utah seven point five. Oh, 1476 01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:29.960 So what do you think successful year for BYU? If 1477 01:04:30.000 --> 01:04:32.079 I gave you nine, do you take that new quarterback 1478 01:04:32.079 --> 01:04:32.440 and such? 1479 01:04:32.559 --> 01:04:32.960 Yeah? 1480 01:04:33.079 --> 01:04:35.199 Yeah, I think nine. Gosh, if you got nine, I 1481 01:04:35.199 --> 01:04:37.639 think that'd be really great. The fact that you still 1482 01:04:37.679 --> 01:04:39.239 have so many good things happening, and they do have 1483 01:04:39.280 --> 01:04:39.880 a lot of talent. 1484 01:04:40.000 --> 01:04:40.480 That's great. 1485 01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.800 Anytime you go in with a new quarterback, it's college 1486 01:04:43.800 --> 01:04:45.920 football with a new quarterback and you hung player. There's 1487 01:04:45.960 --> 01:04:48.320 a lot of complexities with that. So nine, I think 1488 01:04:48.360 --> 01:04:49.400 you would definitely take that. 1489 01:04:49.599 --> 01:04:49.840 Eight. 1490 01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:51.599 I think if you're a ute fan, like I said, 1491 01:04:51.599 --> 01:04:55.320 if you're eight and you're truly contending and you're not 1492 01:04:55.400 --> 01:04:58.039 showing this massive gap between you and the rest who 1493 01:04:58.079 --> 01:04:59.760 are competing for a Big twelve title, then I think 1494 01:04:59.760 --> 01:05:00.239 that's great. 1495 01:05:00.480 --> 01:05:02.320 Great to see my friend man all right, the Great 1496 01:05:02.719 --> 01:05:03.519 Parks Boys. 1497 01:05:05.679 --> 01:05:10.880 William Riley, better known as Bill, we'll join the program 1498 01:05:10.920 --> 01:05:15.280 at four o'clock today. Kurt Schmidt, RSL's chief decision maker, 1499 01:05:15.320 --> 01:05:17.920 will join us at four thirty. RSL plays tonight, and 1500 01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:20.320 we are going to see their new designated player, Rwan 1501 01:05:20.480 --> 01:05:24.800 Cruz got his work visa this morning, so we'll see 1502 01:05:24.840 --> 01:05:25.760 Rowan tonight. 1503 01:05:26.519 --> 01:05:27.679 Joining me live in studio. 1504 01:05:28.599 --> 01:05:32.119 Looking very casual today for a change, is my friend 1505 01:05:32.199 --> 01:05:32.599 Dave Fox. 1506 01:05:32.639 --> 01:05:34.320 Hello, Dave, how are you? Are you good? It's fun 1507 01:05:34.320 --> 01:05:35.000 to be casual. 1508 01:05:35.079 --> 01:05:37.960 I'd have to put on a suit, little T shirt 1509 01:05:37.960 --> 01:05:39.840 and shorts my favorite part of the job. Porter and 1510 01:05:39.840 --> 01:05:42.559 I are in pajamas every day. Although you do have 1511 01:05:42.599 --> 01:05:45.320 the little webcams. He probably you don't care. No, yeah, 1512 01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.559 I don't any money from that. Start paying me up 1513 01:05:48.559 --> 01:05:51.119 from YouTube. I'll put on a suit. Okay, well maybe 1514 01:05:51.119 --> 01:05:52.559 you could get a deal, get you know what. You 1515 01:05:52.559 --> 01:05:56.159 know how I'll bed paying Roan. Yeah, they they're not 1516 01:05:56.239 --> 01:06:00.199 answering our phone calls anymore. Unfortunately they don't advertise is 1517 01:06:00.199 --> 01:06:01.960 on the station. But Porter and I are only wearing 1518 01:06:02.039 --> 01:06:04.599 round round dot com is where you go, there you go. 1519 01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:08.760 That's the only shorts that are next level great. They 1520 01:06:08.800 --> 01:06:11.760 built a great company and proud brothers. Ye are you 1521 01:06:12.199 --> 01:06:13.840 joining us straight off the lake? 1522 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:16.760 No, I'm i'm uh. Let me explain. 1523 01:06:16.880 --> 01:06:18.679 I you know, high school football starts next week. You 1524 01:06:18.679 --> 01:06:20.880 don't care about high school football, but it starts next week. 1525 01:06:20.920 --> 01:06:23.320 We do two games a week, well the week before, 1526 01:06:23.400 --> 01:06:24.559 so tonight and tomorrow night. 1527 01:06:24.599 --> 01:06:26.920 Get this. We do media knights, two of them. 1528 01:06:27.159 --> 01:06:29.519 We do one at Lee High for all the southern teams, 1529 01:06:29.599 --> 01:06:32.119 want at Farmington for the northern teams. And we invite 1530 01:06:32.159 --> 01:06:34.519 every team that's going to be on our air to send, 1531 01:06:34.719 --> 01:06:36.559 you know, like half a dozen players, and then we 1532 01:06:36.679 --> 01:06:38.320 just do various media things with him. 1533 01:06:38.960 --> 01:06:40.159 And that's why I'm dressed like. 1534 01:06:40.079 --> 01:06:40.599 This, Hi, bud. 1535 01:06:41.320 --> 01:06:44.599 And okay, so wait, you're dressed like that because you 1536 01:06:44.639 --> 01:06:46.800 don't have to be in front of the camera right right, right, 1537 01:06:46.880 --> 01:06:48.559 right right right? So how does it feel to be 1538 01:06:49.519 --> 01:06:51.880 Duke is licking you? Duke is a friendly pop, Duke 1539 01:06:52.039 --> 01:06:54.639 likes to come. Are you a dog owner? 1540 01:06:54.960 --> 01:06:57.039 No? Okay? Do you do you like dogs? 1541 01:06:57.320 --> 01:06:59.440 It depends. He's a good dog. 1542 01:06:59.480 --> 01:07:00.159 Oh he's the best. 1543 01:07:00.400 --> 01:07:04.760 But I'm not like you know, no, I don't well, 1544 01:07:04.760 --> 01:07:06.079 I don't know what to say about that. I don't 1545 01:07:06.159 --> 01:07:08.280 hate dogs, but we haven't had a dog in many, 1546 01:07:08.320 --> 01:07:09.280 many years. We had a dog. 1547 01:07:09.320 --> 01:07:11.039 It was great. Says a lot about you. 1548 01:07:11.199 --> 01:07:13.719 Yeah, so you're casual because you're not gonna be in 1549 01:07:13.719 --> 01:07:15.559 front of the camera. You're just gonna be behind the 1550 01:07:15.599 --> 01:07:20.440 camera exploiting children. I'm gonna be down the football field 1551 01:07:20.440 --> 01:07:24.360 with Adam Mikolitch and Jake Edmonds and a couple of 1552 01:07:24.400 --> 01:07:26.679 other guys from the station that are helping shoot all 1553 01:07:26.719 --> 01:07:28.639 these elements, and I just kind of help orchestrate the 1554 01:07:28.639 --> 01:07:30.440 whole thing, move the teams around. So, okay, you guys 1555 01:07:30.480 --> 01:07:32.800 are over here, you guys are here, and so it's 1556 01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:34.519 just casual. I'm just wearing a hat and a T 1557 01:07:34.599 --> 01:07:36.880 shirt because it's a hundred degrees. And do you feel 1558 01:07:36.880 --> 01:07:41.119 bad that potentially that you're feeding into unnecessary egos of 1559 01:07:41.159 --> 01:07:43.159 fifteen and sixteen year olds where they're dance in front 1560 01:07:43.159 --> 01:07:45.360 of a camera before it's like they're in the NFL, 1561 01:07:45.519 --> 01:07:47.280 not even a little bit. It's awesome. It's all part 1562 01:07:47.360 --> 01:07:48.760 of the jar of sports. 1563 01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:50.599 They love it. Who's going to be good this year 1564 01:07:50.599 --> 01:07:51.480 in high school football? 1565 01:07:51.480 --> 01:07:53.639 Well, let me ask corner can corner can Well, you 1566 01:07:53.679 --> 01:07:57.000 know what the High School Association did they finally put 1567 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:02.239 the absolute best teams, which are Skyridge Lee, High Loan 1568 01:08:02.280 --> 01:08:06.000 Peak in their own region. American Forks also in there. 1569 01:08:06.400 --> 01:08:11.400 But those four are going to be incredible. I'd say 1570 01:08:11.440 --> 01:08:15.280 Corner Canyon Lee, High Loan Peak especially, and really all 1571 01:08:15.320 --> 01:08:17.800 of them so good that in fact, in the last 1572 01:08:17.840 --> 01:08:21.199 month of the season, every week we have a matchup 1573 01:08:21.840 --> 01:08:24.119 of two of those teams on at some point. I 1574 01:08:24.119 --> 01:08:25.680 think in the last four or five weeks, each of 1575 01:08:25.720 --> 01:08:27.640 those teams is on three times. So all of that, 1576 01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:29.920 that's how good it is. All of them are down South. Yeah, 1577 01:08:29.960 --> 01:08:32.159 they're all in that same general area. They're so good. 1578 01:08:32.479 --> 01:08:35.880 Huh Yeah. How are my Braves this year? Yeah, I'm 1579 01:08:35.920 --> 01:08:38.960 with you on the Braves if any say, champs been 1580 01:08:38.960 --> 01:08:40.560 to the championship game two years in a row, but 1581 01:08:40.560 --> 01:08:43.439 a little bit of rebuilding. Emerson Guileman, their terrific quarterback 1582 01:08:43.520 --> 01:08:45.920 is at Byu. I've actually seen him and said, you know, 1583 01:08:46.039 --> 01:08:48.319 by use that three horse race. But Emerson's in there, 1584 01:08:48.720 --> 01:08:50.399 you know, throwing the football as well with him, and 1585 01:08:50.399 --> 01:08:52.399 I think he's got a decent future down there. But 1586 01:08:52.520 --> 01:08:54.680 they they graduated a lot, so it's going to be 1587 01:08:54.680 --> 01:08:56.880 a little more of a challenge this year, but I'm 1588 01:08:56.880 --> 01:08:59.479 excited for My grandson plays for him, so I'm very excited. 1589 01:08:59.479 --> 01:09:02.760 What position he actually it's he's a quarterback and he's 1590 01:09:02.760 --> 01:09:05.560 in the same They're in the exact same position as BYU. 1591 01:09:05.720 --> 01:09:09.359 Three guys all vying for the starting quarterback position. 1592 01:09:09.439 --> 01:09:11.479 You have a grandson that's old enough to be playing 1593 01:09:11.560 --> 01:09:12.439 high school football. 1594 01:09:12.560 --> 01:09:16.439 I have a grandson on an LDS mission his older brother. 1595 01:09:17.279 --> 01:09:18.720 So whose kid is this? 1596 01:09:18.720 --> 01:09:22.079 This is Lauren and Casey's shout out Lauren, case And 1597 01:09:22.079 --> 01:09:23.119 what's your grandson's name? 1598 01:09:23.399 --> 01:09:23.760 Madden? 1599 01:09:23.840 --> 01:09:26.760 Shout out Madden. Oh wow, set up to be a 1600 01:09:26.760 --> 01:09:27.439 football player. 1601 01:09:27.520 --> 01:09:32.239 Yeah, it's like, how about this Madden plays football for 1602 01:09:32.319 --> 01:09:36.199 Bountiful and his younger sister, Kendall, is a cheerleader for 1603 01:09:36.239 --> 01:09:40.960 woods Cross. Family mom's moms dividing up her time everywhere 1604 01:09:41.000 --> 01:09:41.800 some family beef. 1605 01:09:42.319 --> 01:09:44.039 No, no, no, no, wait wait wait these. 1606 01:09:43.880 --> 01:09:48.119 Are siblings from the same family. Yeah, I have so 1607 01:09:48.159 --> 01:09:50.439 many questions. That's no big deal. 1608 01:09:50.479 --> 01:09:53.560 That's he chose to play football Bountiful and she chose 1609 01:09:53.600 --> 01:09:56.439 to stay in woods Cross with her friends. Okay, maybe 1610 01:09:56.479 --> 01:09:58.720 I'm old, but what happened to boundaries? Like when I 1611 01:09:58.760 --> 01:10:00.840 was growing up. D you live, so you go to 1612 01:10:00.840 --> 01:10:01.640 this school. 1613 01:10:01.640 --> 01:10:03.479 That Why do you think those four teams we talked 1614 01:10:03.520 --> 01:10:04.560 about are all so good? 1615 01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:05.760 Oh? 1616 01:10:06.279 --> 01:10:08.479 Okay, are we talking of tampering? Are we talking? 1617 01:10:08.439 --> 01:10:11.920 I don't tampering? But you know the portals alive? 1618 01:10:11.960 --> 01:10:14.279 And well, who's the most dishonest program in this Oh, 1619 01:10:14.279 --> 01:10:17.560 there isn't a dishonest No, who's the one? Okay, who's 1620 01:10:17.600 --> 01:10:20.159 the one that everybody else is like? Oh, they're the coach? 1621 01:10:20.239 --> 01:10:21.880 There he goes again, he poasted another player. 1622 01:10:21.880 --> 01:10:22.359 Who's the one. 1623 01:10:22.359 --> 01:10:25.760 There's there's plenty of teams that take full advantage of 1624 01:10:25.880 --> 01:10:28.119 kids that want to play. It's corner Canyon, isn't I know? 1625 01:10:28.640 --> 01:10:31.520 Eric here is a great guy, great coach, town of guy. 1626 01:10:31.560 --> 01:10:34.600 He also coaches track and field, by the way. Oh okay, 1627 01:10:34.800 --> 01:10:37.159 And they're all they're all good guys down there, Barb 1628 01:10:37.159 --> 01:10:39.880 brock Bank at Loan Peak, they're all justin Hammett Skyridge, 1629 01:10:40.680 --> 01:10:43.079 They're they're all really good. There's got to be one 1630 01:10:43.119 --> 01:10:45.479 coach that everyone's mad at all the time. Porter, do 1631 01:10:45.520 --> 01:10:46.600 you know the answer to this question? 1632 01:10:46.720 --> 01:10:48.520 Dave has to work with all these people, we do 1633 01:10:48.560 --> 01:10:50.600 not who's the one program that paches. 1634 01:10:50.359 --> 01:10:53.439 Well, it was kind of the Corner Canyon. 1635 01:10:54.439 --> 01:10:56.279 Well, dude, you could go way back to the nineties 1636 01:10:56.279 --> 01:10:57.920 when Skyline was doing it. 1637 01:10:57.920 --> 01:11:00.239 It's always been a thing, but I think I think 1638 01:11:00.279 --> 01:11:03.399 it became like a little bit more known that it 1639 01:11:03.439 --> 01:11:06.800 was happening. Canyon was new at the same time, all 1640 01:11:06.840 --> 01:11:09.800 of a sudden they were good and putting a quarterback in. 1641 01:11:09.720 --> 01:11:11.079 The NFL Draft every couple of years. 1642 01:11:11.159 --> 01:11:16.720 That the kid having to move into their boundaries and really, 1643 01:11:16.720 --> 01:11:19.199 oh wait, so boundaries are a thing. I'm just saying, 1644 01:11:19.199 --> 01:11:21.600 if you are in the boundaries that then it's easy. 1645 01:11:21.640 --> 01:11:23.600 If you're not, it's a little more challenging. So the 1646 01:11:23.640 --> 01:11:24.640 answers Corner Canyon. 1647 01:11:25.119 --> 01:11:27.479 All right, moving on, I'm gonna ask you the question 1648 01:11:27.520 --> 01:11:31.720 we've been discussing. Okay, okay, uh, Vegas over underwins, shout 1649 01:11:31.720 --> 01:11:34.039 out Corner Canyon. My brother's kids are my nieces and 1650 01:11:34.119 --> 01:11:35.640 nephews are going to go to Corner Canyon when they're 1651 01:11:35.640 --> 01:11:37.960 old enough. I have them this year against Liberty, Arizona, 1652 01:11:38.079 --> 01:11:39.239 two state champions. 1653 01:11:39.239 --> 01:11:39.840 So how about that. 1654 01:11:39.840 --> 01:11:43.279 That's yeah, So Vegas over underwins for the UT is 1655 01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:44.039 seven point five. 1656 01:11:44.119 --> 01:11:45.199 Uh huh okay uh. 1657 01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:50.000 DraftKings Sportsbook for b yu is eight point five successful 1658 01:11:50.079 --> 01:11:53.279 season for Utah football. Dave season year two in the 1659 01:11:53.279 --> 01:11:56.079 Big twelve, in your opinion, looks like what, well more 1660 01:11:56.159 --> 01:11:58.760 than seven point five, I'll tell you that much, and 1661 01:11:58.840 --> 01:12:00.840 partially because of all the hype. 1662 01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:02.279 Now, hang on a second. 1663 01:12:02.359 --> 01:12:04.439 If we go back a year ago and Cam Rising 1664 01:12:04.479 --> 01:12:07.359 stays healthy the entire season, who knows what kind of 1665 01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:10.239 I mean what they had four losses that were by 1666 01:12:10.279 --> 01:12:12.760 a single score. If you know, if they win those, 1667 01:12:12.880 --> 01:12:16.319 then it's a whole different story. So health always is 1668 01:12:16.359 --> 01:12:19.079 at the top of the list. But assuming everything stays healthy, 1669 01:12:19.119 --> 01:12:21.079 I think success is over that. 1670 01:12:21.680 --> 01:12:22.279 And a lot of. 1671 01:12:22.239 --> 01:12:24.920 It's just because so much, I mean, from springball on 1672 01:12:25.560 --> 01:12:27.920 everyone has been talking about the excitement of this new 1673 01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:30.920 offense and Dampier and what he's going to bring, and 1674 01:12:31.000 --> 01:12:34.640 even coach Winningham has alluded to the incredible offensive line. 1675 01:12:34.840 --> 01:12:39.159 So I'm not saying it's their fault, but it kind 1676 01:12:39.159 --> 01:12:41.600 of is. They put themselves in a position where everyone's 1677 01:12:41.640 --> 01:12:43.960 really excited to see this team be successful, and I 1678 01:12:44.000 --> 01:12:47.239 think anything less I mean, I mean, I'm not into 1679 01:12:47.279 --> 01:12:50.239 the point five, but let's say eight plus. 1680 01:12:51.399 --> 01:12:52.239 That's what it's got to be. 1681 01:12:52.319 --> 01:12:54.399 Well, the good news is the point five is impossible. 1682 01:12:54.479 --> 01:12:56.600 It's just how they said lines. Now they go, if 1683 01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.880 I gave you eight wins for Utah, do you take 1684 01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:02.000 you say, Okay, successful Sea, But. 1685 01:13:02.039 --> 01:13:05.000 I think they'll go over. I'll put them at nine. 1686 01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.000 See it's interesting because I'm going to disagree with you 1687 01:13:08.000 --> 01:13:12.319 a little bit. I don't think there are audacious expectations 1688 01:13:12.560 --> 01:13:15.680 around the Utah football program like there were a year ago. 1689 01:13:16.399 --> 01:13:19.279 Last year it felt like the hype train was really 1690 01:13:19.479 --> 01:13:20.560 going down the track. 1691 01:13:20.600 --> 01:13:24.119 I mean, it wasn't just us locally Vegas picks them 1692 01:13:24.119 --> 01:13:26.520 to win the Big Twelve a year ago, not all, 1693 01:13:26.560 --> 01:13:29.079 but most of the national media, including most of the 1694 01:13:29.079 --> 01:13:31.399 big dogs, like Utah is the favorite, and then it's 1695 01:13:31.439 --> 01:13:34.600 like k State, Oklahoma State, whatever. It's wild how this 1696 01:13:34.720 --> 01:13:37.239 conference was flipped on its head last year, juxtaposed to 1697 01:13:37.239 --> 01:13:39.079 who we expected to win and who we expected to 1698 01:13:39.079 --> 01:13:41.479 be bad. Arizona State BYU picked near the bottom, and 1699 01:13:41.479 --> 01:13:44.880 they both had great years. But this year, I don't 1700 01:13:44.920 --> 01:13:47.640 think the hype train is where the pressure is. Where 1701 01:13:47.680 --> 01:13:52.199 I think the pressure lies is proving to the community 1702 01:13:52.239 --> 01:13:54.600 that you've adjusted the right way to the new normal 1703 01:13:54.640 --> 01:13:57.800 of college football. Like last year was the first year 1704 01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.520 where we didn't have a seismic shift with conferences. 1705 01:14:01.800 --> 01:14:02.920 Everyone's in the conference. 1706 01:14:02.960 --> 01:14:04.680 You know, obviously the PAC twelve is different, but the 1707 01:14:04.680 --> 01:14:08.119 P four conferences were settled. We had four, you know, 1708 01:14:08.199 --> 01:14:11.399 three four years of transfer portal and nil. Now the 1709 01:14:11.399 --> 01:14:14.439 house b NCAA has passed. You're paying these kids. I 1710 01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:17.479 think there are questions that people have, like as you 1711 01:14:17.560 --> 01:14:20.439 taught football adjusted to the new normal of what college 1712 01:14:20.479 --> 01:14:23.119 football demands now. I asked you yesterday and five questions 1713 01:14:23.119 --> 01:14:25.479 with Spence. You just mentioned pressure, So I'm gonna circle 1714 01:14:25.520 --> 01:14:27.800 back to that. Who's under the most pressure? Is it 1715 01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:30.680 the coach, Kyle Whningham, Is it your offensive coordinator beck? 1716 01:14:30.840 --> 01:14:33.600 Is it your quarterback damp here? And you said it's 1717 01:14:33.680 --> 01:14:37.680 Dans Devin. Yeah, yeah, you totally felt like and in 1718 01:14:37.720 --> 01:14:39.800 a lot of respects, I agree with you on that. 1719 01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:43.720 You're right about wit He's his legacy is Cemanty. Kyle 1720 01:14:43.800 --> 01:14:45.960 doesn't have anything approve to anybody. But I mean they 1721 01:14:45.960 --> 01:14:49.079 could win zero games and Kyle still Kyle having said that, 1722 01:14:49.159 --> 01:14:52.000 I still okay, So we'll agree to disagree on this. 1723 01:14:52.159 --> 01:14:55.760 I think maybe the the media high training isn't there, 1724 01:14:55.800 --> 01:14:59.800 but just sense that the ute nation high train is 1725 01:14:59.840 --> 01:15:04.199 that and they're expecting means yes, this is for sure 1726 01:15:04.199 --> 01:15:07.640 expecting to be a big bounce bounce back year and 1727 01:15:07.680 --> 01:15:10.800 that's why. And you're circling back to your original question 1728 01:15:10.920 --> 01:15:14.520 what looks like success? Well, usually the fans are the 1729 01:15:14.520 --> 01:15:17.119 ones that really gauge success, and they're gonna want to 1730 01:15:17.119 --> 01:15:18.359 see eight nine wins. 1731 01:15:18.600 --> 01:15:21.359 Yeah, but fans don't. Fans are idiots. They don't know. 1732 01:15:21.399 --> 01:15:23.399 Well, I mean, just ask me what looks like success, 1733 01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:25.239 and I think that's what looks like. But if you're 1734 01:15:25.279 --> 01:15:28.079 telling me that like dudes on college football message boards 1735 01:15:28.119 --> 01:15:30.000 are driving the hype train, Okay, go ahead, because they 1736 01:15:30.000 --> 01:15:31.720 don't have a life like that's all they care about 1737 01:15:31.760 --> 01:15:32.199 is where their. 1738 01:15:32.079 --> 01:15:33.359 College is still out there. 1739 01:15:33.720 --> 01:15:36.000 But I don't how many media members have you seen 1740 01:15:36.239 --> 01:15:38.439 pick Utah to win the conference that? The answer is 1741 01:15:38.439 --> 01:15:40.840 not zero, but it's not many, not a ton, and 1742 01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:43.239 last year was everybody. And it's kind of all over 1743 01:15:43.279 --> 01:15:45.600 the place too. There are some polls that have Utah 1744 01:15:45.680 --> 01:15:48.760 higher than BYU, and some have BYU. Well, that coach's 1745 01:15:48.800 --> 01:15:50.319 poll that just came out that none of the coaches 1746 01:15:50.319 --> 01:15:53.600 actually vote on, as you pointed out yesterday, have BYU 1747 01:15:53.720 --> 01:15:57.560 higher and utes not even rank so, but I'm just 1748 01:15:57.800 --> 01:15:58.960 my answer to your question. 1749 01:15:59.039 --> 01:15:59.960 That's what I believe it is. 1750 01:16:00.159 --> 01:16:04.119 And I think the fact that they will not have 1751 01:16:04.199 --> 01:16:07.880 this massive target on their back as their prohibitive favorites. 1752 01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:10.720 I think Kyle likes that. I think he likes, you know, totally. 1753 01:16:11.199 --> 01:16:13.319 You know, yeah, I don't think he ever loves because 1754 01:16:13.680 --> 01:16:16.039 once you if you go back to a year ago 1755 01:16:16.079 --> 01:16:18.479 when everyone said they were going to win the championship, 1756 01:16:18.560 --> 01:16:20.800 now you have to every week explain to your guys 1757 01:16:20.840 --> 01:16:23.039 why that doesn't mean anything, and you have to have 1758 01:16:23.079 --> 01:16:25.720 a conversation that you just don't want to have to 1759 01:16:25.760 --> 01:16:28.000 waste time having. You just want them to go out 1760 01:16:28.039 --> 01:16:30.439 and play and do their thing. Now he doesn't have 1761 01:16:30.479 --> 01:16:30.920 to deal. 1762 01:16:30.800 --> 01:16:31.439 With that well. 1763 01:16:31.479 --> 01:16:35.119 And also, once upon a time you had to insulate 1764 01:16:35.319 --> 01:16:39.239 your players from like two daily periodicals and Talk in 1765 01:16:39.279 --> 01:16:40.319 Sports with Dave Fox. 1766 01:16:40.680 --> 01:16:44.600 Right now now. 1767 01:16:43.159 --> 01:16:44.960 At halftime, these kids go into the locker room and 1768 01:16:44.960 --> 01:16:48.439 pull up their phone and see tweets, and so you 1769 01:16:48.479 --> 01:16:52.560 cannot insulate them from expectation. And so last year, all 1770 01:16:52.600 --> 01:16:58.479 these players are reading about the projections and the prognostications, 1771 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:01.039 and when you're an eighteen, nineteen twenty year old kid, 1772 01:17:01.680 --> 01:17:03.960 pressure is going to inevitably affect you in a way 1773 01:17:04.000 --> 01:17:06.439 that it doesn't affect you when you're a fully grown adult. 1774 01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:09.520 If you feel like everyone is expecting you to win 1775 01:17:09.560 --> 01:17:12.319 the conference and win every week, that's got a way 1776 01:17:12.399 --> 01:17:14.279 on you. So the fact that now you can fire 1777 01:17:14.319 --> 01:17:16.039 up your phone and it's like, oh, yeah, we're picked forth 1778 01:17:16.159 --> 01:17:19.680 or fifth, I actually think that's a nice way to 1779 01:17:19.720 --> 01:17:23.079 provide some motivation. And you know what, by that rationale, 1780 01:17:23.159 --> 01:17:25.720 then you're essentially saying you're picked to go bowling. 1781 01:17:26.239 --> 01:17:28.479 But going bowling nowadays doesn't mean a whole lot. 1782 01:17:28.560 --> 01:17:31.199 Now with six games and you're bowling, So is that 1783 01:17:31.359 --> 01:17:33.920 a level of success, Well, it'd be more successful than 1784 01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:36.640 last year. But I just I think there are a 1785 01:17:36.680 --> 01:17:38.439 lot of there's a lot of hype out there that 1786 01:17:38.520 --> 01:17:39.279 wants more. 1787 01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:40.880 Wants more, for sure. 1788 01:17:41.079 --> 01:17:42.520 I just think it's a little bit of a different 1789 01:17:42.600 --> 01:17:44.199 dynamic when you're picked as the favorite. 1790 01:17:44.239 --> 01:17:46.239 Yeah, you're right, and then you know the pressure. 1791 01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:50.359 But look, Dave, I do think there's a different sort 1792 01:17:50.359 --> 01:17:53.439 of pressure on the program this year to prove to 1793 01:17:53.520 --> 01:17:57.520 people in this community that are being asked to invest 1794 01:17:57.720 --> 01:18:01.000 in a different way on a different level. It used 1795 01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:03.119 to be Yeah, by season tickets. You know, if you're 1796 01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:05.600 a if you're in a lum and you've been able 1797 01:18:05.600 --> 01:18:07.640 to make some money, yeah, please donate. 1798 01:18:07.720 --> 01:18:08.520 We need boosters. 1799 01:18:08.600 --> 01:18:08.760 Now. 1800 01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:12.159 It's like, donate to the collective by season tickets. Okay, 1801 01:18:12.199 --> 01:18:15.560 we have this round of fundraising that we're gonna do 1802 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:17.199 to make sure that we can have NIL at a 1803 01:18:17.239 --> 01:18:19.840 certain level. Like if you're going to ask a community 1804 01:18:20.000 --> 01:18:22.600 to open up their pocketbooks, you have to show them 1805 01:18:22.640 --> 01:18:24.520 that your football program is ready to compete at a 1806 01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:26.399 high level. And by the way, we're raising the prices 1807 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:28.479 on our tickets. But wait, you only won five games 1808 01:18:28.479 --> 01:18:30.640 here last year. Yeah, we know, we're still raising our 1809 01:18:30.680 --> 01:18:31.800 price right right. 1810 01:18:32.119 --> 01:18:32.680 So there you go. 1811 01:18:33.239 --> 01:18:34.439 I know you got to get out of here. So 1812 01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:36.279 let me ask you about YU. Do you have a 1813 01:18:36.319 --> 01:18:38.039 feel at all who's going to be under center? 1814 01:18:39.560 --> 01:18:42.479 I just keep feeling like it's Hillstead. 1815 01:18:42.560 --> 01:18:42.720 Yeah. 1816 01:18:42.760 --> 01:18:43.640 I think I agree with that. 1817 01:18:43.680 --> 01:18:46.159 It just I think he's got a little bit more 1818 01:18:46.199 --> 01:18:49.560 of the experience. I was talking to somebody of the 1819 01:18:49.600 --> 01:18:52.239 station yesterday. They're like, how come they're wearing green vest 1820 01:18:52.319 --> 01:18:53.920 instead of red? And I'm like, you don't know a 1821 01:18:53.960 --> 01:18:56.319 lot about the rivalry, do you. Yeah, that's how it 1822 01:18:56.319 --> 01:18:58.520 works down there. It's the blue zone and stop the 1823 01:18:58.520 --> 01:19:02.600 red zone. I'm getting tired of seeing a quarterback in 1824 01:19:02.680 --> 01:19:04.840 number forty seven, But that's okay. They're young, Yeah, can 1825 01:19:04.960 --> 01:19:07.359 give a man like number twelve or something. But I 1826 01:19:07.600 --> 01:19:09.840 liked him by the way. I like them as well. 1827 01:19:09.920 --> 01:19:12.159 He has measurables that the other two don't. He's big. 1828 01:19:12.239 --> 01:19:13.960 I don't know if they just ran out of quarterback 1829 01:19:14.039 --> 01:19:16.560 numbers in the Green vest or if he's really gonna 1830 01:19:16.600 --> 01:19:17.439 wear forty seven. 1831 01:19:17.560 --> 01:19:20.039 We had we had Spencer Letnn from y U t 1832 01:19:20.159 --> 01:19:21.880 V yesterday he said that's the number he wants to wear. 1833 01:19:21.960 --> 01:19:22.399 He wants to wear. 1834 01:19:22.479 --> 01:19:23.840 When that and nowadays you can. 1835 01:19:23.920 --> 01:19:26.000 I guess he was running back in high school and 1836 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:28.000 that was the number he wore, So that's gonna be. 1837 01:19:28.279 --> 01:19:29.680 He wants to stick with forty seven. 1838 01:19:29.840 --> 01:19:33.000 Fine, but I really believe if if you know, I 1839 01:19:33.000 --> 01:19:35.159 think it's hillsted. I don't even think base that on 1840 01:19:35.199 --> 01:19:37.279 other than I just feel like he is the most 1841 01:19:37.319 --> 01:19:41.239 prepared And what a great job Kilani has done talking 1842 01:19:41.279 --> 01:19:44.199 to all his guys who he knows are gonna be questioned, like. 1843 01:19:44.760 --> 01:19:47.399 Who was who's the receiver that was available yesterday? Chase? 1844 01:19:47.479 --> 01:19:50.159 It was Chase, and even he was like, you know, 1845 01:19:50.159 --> 01:19:52.479 because what do people ask, well, is anyone what does 1846 01:19:52.520 --> 01:19:53.800 one do different than the other? 1847 01:19:53.840 --> 01:19:54.760 And they're all the same. 1848 01:19:55.600 --> 01:19:57.119 We catch a ball and then I'll look back and say, 1849 01:19:57.159 --> 01:19:59.720 oh he threw that, you know, because you can't tell. Well, 1850 01:20:00.279 --> 01:20:02.560 I don't think we all believe that necessarily, but man, 1851 01:20:02.600 --> 01:20:05.079 do they toll the line properly? And Kalani's saying the 1852 01:20:05.119 --> 01:20:07.079 same thing. Every one of them is doing great stuff. 1853 01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:08.479 It's going to be hard, and we asked them to 1854 01:20:08.479 --> 01:20:10.640 make a hard honest and they are making a hard honest. 1855 01:20:10.680 --> 01:20:12.760 But at the end of the day, I think he'll 1856 01:20:12.800 --> 01:20:13.640 stead will be the guy. 1857 01:20:13.720 --> 01:20:14.319 Do you think they know? 1858 01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:16.239 I think they know. 1859 01:20:16.680 --> 01:20:18.439 I've got to imagine they at least have a yeah, 1860 01:20:18.720 --> 01:20:22.439 probably have a feeling. You would figure that once you 1861 01:20:22.479 --> 01:20:25.319 get to game week, the number one would get the 1862 01:20:25.319 --> 01:20:28.680 majority of the reps. And I don't know how, Like 1863 01:20:28.720 --> 01:20:30.920 somebody was saying that yesterday, Well maybe they won't announce 1864 01:20:30.920 --> 01:20:32.640 it until game day, And I'm not sure you could 1865 01:20:32.640 --> 01:20:36.600 go that far because the on game week isn't that 1866 01:20:36.600 --> 01:20:38.880 the way it always is? The number one gets the 1867 01:20:38.920 --> 01:20:41.880 majority of the reps. So that's gonna be a little tricky, 1868 01:20:41.920 --> 01:20:44.720 but I don't know. He tries to say that last 1869 01:20:44.760 --> 01:20:46.520 year was that there was a quarterback battle. I don't 1870 01:20:46.520 --> 01:20:50.840 think there really was. Well, I mean technically they claimed 1871 01:20:50.880 --> 01:20:54.479 there was between the Bahannon kid and Jake, and then 1872 01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:58.479 the year before that was Jaron Hall and then Zach. 1873 01:20:58.560 --> 01:21:00.640 There was a Zach Wilson or Mangum. 1874 01:21:00.680 --> 01:21:03.039 Y're like, they've been through QB battles before, and I 1875 01:21:03.039 --> 01:21:05.159 think Klanie and a Rout have shown that they usually 1876 01:21:05.159 --> 01:21:07.680 make the right choice. I have to imagine they have 1877 01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:10.000 a leen and the other nice things. They open up 1878 01:21:10.000 --> 01:21:12.720 against Portland State, so whatever, you know, Really their first 1879 01:21:12.760 --> 01:21:15.640 three aren't bad. Stanford for the second week, that's a 1880 01:21:15.680 --> 01:21:17.600 program that's in a little trouble right now. They've got 1881 01:21:17.720 --> 01:21:20.399 interim coach Frank Braik Andrew Luck has taken over as 1882 01:21:20.439 --> 01:21:20.760 the GM. 1883 01:21:20.840 --> 01:21:21.359 But we'll see. 1884 01:21:21.359 --> 01:21:22.800 I know you got to go, yep, thanks for having 1885 01:21:22.800 --> 01:21:25.479 to see you, Dave. Okay high school football next week. 1886 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:26.079 Love it? 1887 01:21:26.159 --> 01:21:27.359 Yeah, well you need. 1888 01:21:27.399 --> 01:21:31.600 It's the purest form of athletic amateurism. Let's just remember 1889 01:21:31.640 --> 01:21:34.880 what he said about Corner Canyon. I was your mics off. 1890 01:21:34.920 --> 01:21:35.920 Oh no, oh no. 1891 01:21:36.319 --> 01:21:38.680 He's saying that he loves corner canyon. Okay, bye, Dave, 1892 01:21:38.720 --> 01:21:40.840 good to see you all right before we catch a break. 1893 01:21:40.880 --> 01:21:42.720 Like any good coach, it's time to update the game 1894 01:21:42.760 --> 01:21:45.520 plan for a healthy green lawn as the hot weather 1895 01:21:45.600 --> 01:21:48.119 continues this month. To make sure you're using IFA Step 1896 01:21:48.239 --> 01:21:50.960 three Summer lawn Food for healthy turf that stays green 1897 01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:53.880 and every season. I FA is Step three lawn Food. 1898 01:21:53.920 --> 01:21:56.319 It's the ultimate lawn owner power move. 1899 01:22:00.119 --> 01:22:04.279 Detouring your way through Sugarhouse, Fiddler's is easily accessible from 1900 01:22:04.319 --> 01:22:06.840 eleventh East with free parking. Now open for lunch and 1901 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:09.560 dinner daily with Sunday brunch and awesome late night eats. 1902 01:22:09.760 --> 01:22:11.640 Come and wind and enjoy the game with a cold 1903 01:22:11.640 --> 01:22:14.079 one at Fiddler's. Sugarhouse is neighborhood sports bar. 1904 01:22:14.279 --> 01:22:15.600 Must be twenty one to enter Hive. 1905 01:22:15.960 --> 01:22:19.840 In the Voice of the Utes, Jill Riley joins us 1906 01:22:19.880 --> 01:22:23.520 in the four o'clock hour Socomore college football Hert. 1907 01:22:23.359 --> 01:22:24.520 Schmid rolls by as well. 1908 01:22:24.640 --> 01:22:27.640 RSL is in action tonight, but a very special guest 1909 01:22:27.680 --> 01:22:30.479 live in studio. I was a resident of sugar House 1910 01:22:30.520 --> 01:22:32.800 for twelve years before the hipsters took over. Then I 1911 01:22:32.840 --> 01:22:36.399 moved out, but while I lived there, Fiddler's was a 1912 01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:40.760 constant for me RSL watch parties, hanging out for college football, 1913 01:22:40.880 --> 01:22:44.800 NFL as well. New ownership now and the new owner, Jimmy, 1914 01:22:45.000 --> 01:22:46.159 joins me live in studio. 1915 01:22:46.279 --> 01:22:48.079 Jimmy, how are you man? I'm doing good. How are you? 1916 01:22:48.159 --> 01:22:48.479 I'm good. 1917 01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:53.199 I appreciate the time today and congratulations. So let's talk 1918 01:22:53.239 --> 01:22:57.039 about what I'll say is a reimagined Fiddler's experience. Now, 1919 01:22:57.079 --> 01:22:59.239 you and I are both locals, spent a lot of 1920 01:22:59.239 --> 01:23:01.319 time there back in the day, and you've taken over. 1921 01:23:01.359 --> 01:23:02.520 What do you want our listeners to know? 1922 01:23:03.359 --> 01:23:05.119 It's like a phoenix from the ashes there. 1923 01:23:05.560 --> 01:23:09.720 We're reinventing an old staple of the neighborhood. It was, 1924 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:12.319 you know, such a community spot, such a great place 1925 01:23:12.319 --> 01:23:15.119 for so many years, and if that place were to 1926 01:23:15.159 --> 01:23:16.239 have closed forever, it would have. 1927 01:23:16.199 --> 01:23:17.359 Been huge scar in the neighborhood. 1928 01:23:17.359 --> 01:23:17.680 For sure. 1929 01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:19.720 I grew up three blocks away. 1930 01:23:20.399 --> 01:23:23.840 That's my home, that's my hometown. I feel I feel 1931 01:23:23.840 --> 01:23:25.319 at home in the neighborhood, so I had to bring 1932 01:23:25.319 --> 01:23:25.600 it back. 1933 01:23:25.840 --> 01:23:30.039 It's awesome and I'm excited to experience the reimagined fiddlers. 1934 01:23:30.039 --> 01:23:33.560 It's no longer Fiddler's Elbow, It's just Fiddler's So it's 1935 01:23:33.560 --> 01:23:38.039 Fiddler's Sugarhouse. The website is Fiddler's Sugarhouse dot com. Now, Jimmy, 1936 01:23:38.039 --> 01:23:41.880 it's no secret for anybody that has attempted to traverse 1937 01:23:41.960 --> 01:23:44.439 the Sugarhouse space these days that it is a little 1938 01:23:44.439 --> 01:23:48.560 bit complicated, daunting, daunting, convoluted. 1939 01:23:48.680 --> 01:23:51.800 So talk about the access to Fiddlers right now, easy 1940 01:23:51.800 --> 01:23:53.039 access off of eleventh East. 1941 01:23:53.560 --> 01:23:56.399 You can come off of the freeway down twenty first South, 1942 01:23:56.600 --> 01:23:59.079 take a RTE and then left right into our parking lot. 1943 01:24:00.039 --> 01:24:04.439 Some really good news. They just paved last night. So 1944 01:24:04.600 --> 01:24:07.560 twenty first South is paved. It's not open in both directions. Yeah, 1945 01:24:07.600 --> 01:24:09.800 but a few days we should be we should be. 1946 01:24:09.840 --> 01:24:12.319 Doing pretty good. All right, good that actually, that is 1947 01:24:12.319 --> 01:24:12.800 good news. 1948 01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:16.439 And I would imagine with football season coming up college football, NFL, 1949 01:24:16.640 --> 01:24:19.039 you'll have all the things that football fans want. 1950 01:24:19.119 --> 01:24:19.960 Yeah. Yeah, we have. 1951 01:24:19.880 --> 01:24:23.000 Twenty TVs in the building. You can see a TV 1952 01:24:23.119 --> 01:24:24.319 from every seat in the house. 1953 01:24:24.920 --> 01:24:28.560 Also Sunday brunch, late night eats. So if you're looking 1954 01:24:28.560 --> 01:24:31.520 for a place to watch Utah games BYU games, college 1955 01:24:31.520 --> 01:24:34.880 football games must be twenty one right. It's the thing 1956 01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:37.039 we do in the state. We are a bar, not 1957 01:24:37.159 --> 01:24:39.600 a restaurant. They make you put signs up and such, 1958 01:24:39.760 --> 01:24:42.239 sure do so twenty one and over all, right, you 1959 01:24:42.279 --> 01:24:44.079 brought some food in smells wonderful. 1960 01:24:44.399 --> 01:24:45.239 Tell me what we got. 1961 01:24:45.359 --> 01:24:47.520 So we brought just kind of a standard cheese pizza. 1962 01:24:47.760 --> 01:24:49.680 Love it. I think it's a beautiful thing. 1963 01:24:49.960 --> 01:24:54.199 The plain nature of it is just delicious cheese, sauce bread. 1964 01:24:54.359 --> 01:24:54.600 Right. 1965 01:24:55.119 --> 01:24:59.680 We brought our Buffalo wings, fiddlers Burger with garlic, mayo, 1966 01:25:00.039 --> 01:25:03.840 shredded lettuce, just an awesome third pound patty. And that's 1967 01:25:03.840 --> 01:25:04.960 some Korean chili garlic. 1968 01:25:05.399 --> 01:25:09.359 Good stuff, man, good stuff, all right. So website Fiddlersugarhouse dot. 1969 01:25:09.159 --> 01:25:11.119 Com correct same with the Instagram handle. 1970 01:25:10.960 --> 01:25:14.159 Okay, and follow them on social So Fiddler's in Sugarhouse. 1971 01:25:14.159 --> 01:25:17.279 At Fiddler's Sugarhouse now, so reimagine experience of an old 1972 01:25:17.279 --> 01:25:19.319 staple in a community that I lived in for twelve 1973 01:25:19.399 --> 01:25:22.600 years that I really loved. Easily accessible from eleventh Feast 1974 01:25:22.680 --> 01:25:26.039 with free parking. Now open for lunch and dinner, daily 1975 01:25:26.279 --> 01:25:29.039 Sunday brunch as well late night eats. Come unwind and 1976 01:25:29.159 --> 01:25:31.439 enjoy the game with a cold one at Fiddler's Sugarhouse 1977 01:25:31.800 --> 01:25:35.000 neighborhood sports bar. Must be twenty one, find their menu 1978 01:25:35.159 --> 01:25:37.600 and hours online at Fiddlersugarhouse dot com. 1979 01:25:37.720 --> 01:25:39.199 Jimmy, thanks so much. Good to meet you. If you 1980 01:25:39.239 --> 01:25:41.359 need anything, let us know. Okay, yeah, absolutely, thanks for 1981 01:25:41.399 --> 01:25:42.520 having me. Greay, we'll catch a break. 1982 01:25:42.560 --> 01:25:44.600 Bill Riley Jones is coming up next right here, Ron 1983 01:25:44.840 --> 01:25:47.800 ESPN seven hundred. 1984 01:25:50.479 --> 01:25:54.399 Tired of detouring your way through Sugarhouse. Fiddler's is easily 1985 01:25:54.439 --> 01:25:57.279 accessible from eleventh East with free parking. Now open for 1986 01:25:57.359 --> 01:25:59.760 lunch and dinner daily with Sunday brunch and awesome late 1987 01:25:59.840 --> 01:26:01.960 night it eats. Come and wind and enjoy the game 1988 01:26:01.960 --> 01:26:04.880 with a cold one at Fidlers Sugarhouses Neighborhood Sports Bar. 1989 01:26:05.079 --> 01:26:08.239 Must be twenty one to enter. We're doing eighties Joel. 1990 01:26:08.319 --> 01:26:13.960 Now, Eighties Joel, shout out, Horatio Sands step Brothers. We 1991 01:26:14.000 --> 01:26:18.479 only exclusively do eighties Joel. Sir, that's all right, it's 1992 01:26:18.479 --> 01:26:19.239 all right classic. 1993 01:26:19.359 --> 01:26:21.920 Yeah, you can only rely on the old school Billy 1994 01:26:21.960 --> 01:26:25.680 Joel so much, Voice of the Huge Time, Bill Riley 1995 01:26:25.720 --> 01:26:28.079 Wednesday Afternoon, Ryle's Happy Wednesday, Sir? 1996 01:26:28.119 --> 01:26:28.560 How are you? 1997 01:26:29.399 --> 01:26:29.640 Is this? 1998 01:26:29.760 --> 01:26:32.520 The FN? Catalina Winem. 1999 01:26:35.039 --> 01:26:37.479 I love that they had an eighties Joel cover band. 2000 01:26:37.560 --> 01:26:40.159 It is so perfect because look, I like Billy Joel, 2001 01:26:40.199 --> 01:26:40.880 but the eighties. 2002 01:26:41.159 --> 01:26:43.079 I think it's safe to say got loose for our guy. 2003 01:26:43.720 --> 01:26:48.199 The Glasshouses is his peak, probably peak Joel. But yeah, 2004 01:26:48.279 --> 01:26:51.159 the later stuff hit here, hit there, But yeah, you're right, 2005 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:54.279 it's you know, and the Horatio Sands could have been 2006 01:26:54.279 --> 01:26:54.720 any better. 2007 01:26:55.079 --> 01:26:57.760 I tried to watch Happy Gilmore Too last night. Lasted 2008 01:26:57.840 --> 01:27:00.479 fifteen minutes. So I dug into the Billy Joel documentary 2009 01:27:00.520 --> 01:27:01.119 on HBO. 2010 01:27:01.319 --> 01:27:02.840 Have you tried to watch? 2011 01:27:03.560 --> 01:27:06.199 I've heard it. Yeah, I did watch Happy Gilmore Too. 2012 01:27:07.039 --> 01:27:10.319 I didn't go in with high expectations. I found it amusing. 2013 01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:12.920 It was fine. But for you I have. I've heard 2014 01:27:12.920 --> 01:27:14.840 great things about the Joel documentary. 2015 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:15.279 Is it good? 2016 01:27:15.479 --> 01:27:16.399 Highly recommend? 2017 01:27:16.560 --> 01:27:18.840 I watched. I watched the first part. It's a two 2018 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:22.479 parter ors so highly recommend, excellent. I'll dial it up. 2019 01:27:22.720 --> 01:27:25.319 You're watching anything else these days? What's what's on the 2020 01:27:25.319 --> 01:27:27.119 Bill Riley TV show list? 2021 01:27:27.359 --> 01:27:30.159 Not a whole lot going on right now, spence To 2022 01:27:30.199 --> 01:27:36.079 be fair, I got into Handmaid's Tale, the Hulu show 2023 01:27:36.119 --> 01:27:40.199 with Elizabeth Moss, The Seed. The last season just came out, 2024 01:27:40.279 --> 01:27:42.680 and I've been watching that. I never watched it when 2025 01:27:42.680 --> 01:27:45.760 it came out initially, and went into that. It's got 2026 01:27:45.760 --> 01:27:48.359 a lot of HBO show vibes where you've got to 2027 01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:51.720 kind of let the characters develop. But outside of that, 2028 01:27:51.800 --> 01:27:53.399 not much. Just doing a lot of reading, a lot 2029 01:27:53.439 --> 01:27:55.760 of football reading and studying right now for the fall 2030 01:27:55.840 --> 01:27:57.039 from the fall season coming up. 2031 01:27:57.319 --> 01:27:59.960 Well, in that case, we should start with a comprehend 2032 01:28:00.119 --> 01:28:02.159 to break down of how George and Yang fits in 2033 01:28:02.199 --> 01:28:03.039 with the Jazz roster. 2034 01:28:03.800 --> 01:28:05.640 Oh my gosh, the minivan is back. 2035 01:28:05.720 --> 01:28:06.079 He is? 2036 01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.399 What was what was the I mean, they just trying 2037 01:28:08.399 --> 01:28:10.479 to get to the floor of what they have to spend. 2038 01:28:11.479 --> 01:28:13.640 What's the thought process behind bringing George back? 2039 01:28:13.800 --> 01:28:16.600 You get two second round picks for a salary Boston 2040 01:28:16.600 --> 01:28:18.640 didn't want, and I think that's it. I wouldn't be 2041 01:28:18.680 --> 01:28:21.279 stunned if they actually bought him out. But that was 2042 01:28:21.319 --> 01:28:23.399 a question. Tongue in cheek. No one gives a rip. 2043 01:28:23.399 --> 01:28:25.039 They're not going to be good this year, so let's 2044 01:28:25.039 --> 01:28:26.039 stop football, Bill. 2045 01:28:27.680 --> 01:28:30.760 The Huts will be good this year. Yeah, I'm betting 2046 01:28:30.800 --> 01:28:32.199 on So we talk about that. 2047 01:28:32.560 --> 01:28:35.279 So the question I've been asking everybody today is what 2048 01:28:35.319 --> 01:28:37.840 does success look like year two? In the Big twelve? 2049 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:41.640 The Vegas over under seven point five wins. If I 2050 01:28:41.680 --> 01:28:43.479 gave you eight, Bill would you take that out of 2051 01:28:43.479 --> 01:28:44.199 the gates. 2052 01:28:44.520 --> 01:28:45.479 Yes, I would. 2053 01:28:45.520 --> 01:28:50.000 I saw that line, you know, not for entertainment purposes only, 2054 01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:54.399 but I liked the over on that bet. I'm not 2055 01:28:54.600 --> 01:28:57.560 predicting an eleven and one season or anything like that, 2056 01:28:57.640 --> 01:29:02.920 but I think this team was average quarterback play away 2057 01:29:02.960 --> 01:29:06.479 from being eight or nine wins last year. I think 2058 01:29:06.520 --> 01:29:08.239 they're going to have more than that this year. 2059 01:29:08.279 --> 01:29:08.439 Now. 2060 01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:12.920 The schedule's tough, I mean Texas Tech and BYU in 2061 01:29:13.000 --> 01:29:16.039 Arizona State, and the finishing up with the Kansas schools 2062 01:29:16.119 --> 01:29:18.680 is not going to be easy. But I know if 2063 01:29:18.760 --> 01:29:21.800 I were gambling and allowed to gamble, would I would 2064 01:29:21.800 --> 01:29:23.960 look at that and say, I'm with you on that spence. 2065 01:29:24.000 --> 01:29:27.119 I think over seven and a half is a is 2066 01:29:27.159 --> 01:29:30.479 a pretty fair thought on this Utah football team. 2067 01:29:30.840 --> 01:29:34.239 We were discussing the dynamic of pressure and when it 2068 01:29:34.319 --> 01:29:38.600 comes to what Utah football found themselves in last year, 2069 01:29:38.640 --> 01:29:41.439 the pressure was pretty simple to explain. Everybody thought that 2070 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.079 we're going to win the thing, and so you enter 2071 01:29:44.279 --> 01:29:48.039 other stadiums with the proverbial favorite bullseye on your back. 2072 01:29:48.119 --> 01:29:50.760 You welcome teams into your stadium that are motivated to 2073 01:29:50.760 --> 01:29:52.439 come in and beat the team that everyone thinks is 2074 01:29:52.439 --> 01:29:52.920 going to win it. 2075 01:29:53.520 --> 01:29:55.840 That pressure is not there this year. 2076 01:29:56.560 --> 01:29:59.119 Is that something you think can be beneficial for the 2077 01:29:59.159 --> 01:30:03.039 coaching staff you utilize the whole us against the world mentality. 2078 01:30:03.680 --> 01:30:05.760 Yeah, I think so, and I think you can provide 2079 01:30:05.800 --> 01:30:07.920 that little chip on the shoulder. Though I will say 2080 01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:10.600 I think a lot of people you and I've talked 2081 01:30:10.600 --> 01:30:13.319 about this ever since Big twelve media days, I think 2082 01:30:13.560 --> 01:30:16.479 the tide is shifted a little bit. Not that Utah 2083 01:30:16.520 --> 01:30:18.840 is some sort of overwhelming favorite like they were a 2084 01:30:18.920 --> 01:30:21.720 year ago, but I think more people are jumping on 2085 01:30:21.760 --> 01:30:24.720 the Utah bandwagon, but it's not unanimous, and there's a 2086 01:30:24.760 --> 01:30:27.359 case to be made for ASU or Kansas State or 2087 01:30:27.880 --> 01:30:30.760 Baylor or whomever. So I think they can use that 2088 01:30:30.840 --> 01:30:32.640 a little bit, though not too much. It's not as 2089 01:30:32.720 --> 01:30:34.760 if people expect them to finish near the bottom of 2090 01:30:34.800 --> 01:30:37.760 the league, So I think it's a little bit of one. 2091 01:30:37.800 --> 01:30:39.720 But I think more than anything else, I think this 2092 01:30:39.840 --> 01:30:42.920 team's just hungry. And again, it's not the same team 2093 01:30:42.960 --> 01:30:45.199 that was here two or three years ago, but there's 2094 01:30:45.239 --> 01:30:47.600 a lot of guys in the coaching staff, and I 2095 01:30:47.640 --> 01:30:49.640 think there's a lot of people that are eager to 2096 01:30:49.840 --> 01:30:52.800 restore Utah football to what it's been the last decade 2097 01:30:52.920 --> 01:30:54.960 or so. And I think they've got a chance to 2098 01:30:54.960 --> 01:30:57.520 do that if they stay healthy. Obviously everything's predicated on 2099 01:30:57.560 --> 01:31:01.399 the quarterback position, So if Devin Dampierre stays upright this 2100 01:31:01.560 --> 01:31:04.159 year behind that outstanding offensive line, I think they've got 2101 01:31:04.199 --> 01:31:05.680 a great chance to do it. 2102 01:31:05.720 --> 01:31:10.520 Is there a and you can only experience this, experience 2103 01:31:10.560 --> 01:31:12.520 this if you're in the building like you are, it's 2104 01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:15.920 always hard to ascertain what's real or what's not on 2105 01:31:16.039 --> 01:31:18.119 social or just on TV on video. 2106 01:31:18.720 --> 01:31:22.159 Is there a more loose feel with the group this year? 2107 01:31:22.760 --> 01:31:22.880 You know? 2108 01:31:23.159 --> 01:31:23.720 Preseason? 2109 01:31:23.800 --> 01:31:26.239 Last year, I think all those expectations and then the 2110 01:31:26.920 --> 01:31:29.479 ambiguity about the health of not just Cameron but the 2111 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.720 other players probably permeated throughout the entire thing. I felt 2112 01:31:32.760 --> 01:31:36.319 like there was kind of like an uptight feel in. 2113 01:31:36.279 --> 01:31:38.000 The building last year. Does it feel like it's a 2114 01:31:38.039 --> 01:31:39.560 little more loose so far this year? 2115 01:31:40.159 --> 01:31:44.000 I wouldn't say loose, Spence, I would say very dialed in. 2116 01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:47.720 I think that these guys, especially on the offensive side 2117 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:49.720 of the football, where they've brought in a new scheme, 2118 01:31:49.800 --> 01:31:52.720 they really got. These coaches are really locked into the 2119 01:31:52.800 --> 01:31:56.000 details and coaching the details. I've been out to a 2120 01:31:56.079 --> 01:31:59.079 number of practices and being able to watch a lot 2121 01:31:59.119 --> 01:32:03.079 of practice, I see is a lot of detail oriented 2122 01:32:03.119 --> 01:32:07.079 coaching and these guys really being locked in on, you know, 2123 01:32:07.199 --> 01:32:10.960 the little things. And I wouldn't say it's tense. I 2124 01:32:11.000 --> 01:32:13.680 wouldn't say it's loose. What I'd say is it's very 2125 01:32:13.760 --> 01:32:17.319 locked in and focused on what they have to do. 2126 01:32:17.600 --> 01:32:20.239 You're installing a new offense, you know, sure the quarterback 2127 01:32:20.319 --> 01:32:22.239 knows it, one of the receivers, one of the quarterback 2128 01:32:22.279 --> 01:32:24.920 and the running backs know it, but everybody else doesn't. 2129 01:32:25.000 --> 01:32:28.319 So even through springtill now, there's a lot of really 2130 01:32:28.840 --> 01:32:33.439 refinement and attention to detail that Again, maybe I didn't 2131 01:32:33.439 --> 01:32:35.680 pay as much attention last year to it, but this 2132 01:32:35.840 --> 01:32:40.439 year I can really see these coaches focused in on 2133 01:32:40.520 --> 01:32:42.880 the little things and making sure the little things are 2134 01:32:42.920 --> 01:32:45.159 taken care of, because you know that old adage, if 2135 01:32:45.199 --> 01:32:48.279 you let the little things go, then they snowball into 2136 01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:50.560 big things, and they're not doing that right now. So 2137 01:32:51.199 --> 01:32:53.439 not loose, not tight, I would say focused. 2138 01:32:54.039 --> 01:32:56.439 When it comes to you know, it's nice to know 2139 01:32:56.479 --> 01:32:59.199 who the starter is under center, and of course it's Devin, 2140 01:32:59.439 --> 01:33:01.760 And it seems like there's a lot of praise for 2141 01:33:01.840 --> 01:33:04.239 bird flick Fickland, the new kid that we need to 2142 01:33:04.239 --> 01:33:06.680 get to know about a little bit. Does it feel 2143 01:33:06.720 --> 01:33:09.880 like that quarterback room is still a battle behind Devon 2144 01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:12.800 or do you think it's I think it's settled one two, three. 2145 01:33:13.479 --> 01:33:15.640 No, No, No, I still think it's a battle. I 2146 01:33:15.680 --> 01:33:18.000 think they're going to want to look at both scrimmages before. 2147 01:33:18.000 --> 01:33:20.600 I mean, obviously, if you were if you were battling 2148 01:33:20.680 --> 01:33:22.640 for a number one quarterback, you want to get that 2149 01:33:22.680 --> 01:33:26.279 thing settled as soon as humanly possible. I think with 2150 01:33:26.399 --> 01:33:29.640 the backup quarterback thing, You're right, bird Fickland has looked 2151 01:33:29.640 --> 01:33:31.640 for a guy that's a true freshman, and he looks 2152 01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:34.319 sharp in the spring. But Isaac has looked good at 2153 01:33:34.359 --> 01:33:36.560 times this fall too. I think both those guys have 2154 01:33:36.600 --> 01:33:41.079 had their moments. Isaac's got the experience factor, bird Fickland's 2155 01:33:41.439 --> 01:33:43.479 a little bit more athletics, got a little bit more 2156 01:33:43.520 --> 01:33:46.600 of a live arm. So I don't think they're going 2157 01:33:46.680 --> 01:33:49.079 to set out again. This is just me hypothesizing, but 2158 01:33:49.279 --> 01:33:51.439 I don't think that they're going to settle that backup 2159 01:33:51.520 --> 01:33:54.800 quarterback thing till probably later in camp. I think they 2160 01:33:54.880 --> 01:33:56.840 want to give both those guys as many reps as 2161 01:33:56.840 --> 01:33:59.920 they possibly can to figure out who that backup quarterback is. 2162 01:34:00.319 --> 01:34:02.680 What do you think the Nate Johnson experience this year 2163 01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:05.920 looks like? Obviously we know Nate he was here before transferring. 2164 01:34:06.000 --> 01:34:09.279 He transfers back in not in the mix to start, 2165 01:34:09.359 --> 01:34:12.159 and that's fine. But what sort of Nate Johnson experience 2166 01:34:12.199 --> 01:34:13.800 you think we're in for it for you ta this year? 2167 01:34:14.439 --> 01:34:18.720 I think, and again this bear with me here. I 2168 01:34:18.800 --> 01:34:21.520 think you know how the forty nine ers used Deebo Samuel, 2169 01:34:21.960 --> 01:34:23.840 how they lined him up all over the field. They 2170 01:34:23.960 --> 01:34:25.640 put him in the slot, they'd line him up in 2171 01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:27.800 the backfield, they bring him in motion, they'd line him 2172 01:34:27.840 --> 01:34:30.079 up out. Why I think you're going to see them 2173 01:34:30.119 --> 01:34:33.319 do something like that with Nate Johnson because he doesn't 2174 01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:36.520 have a defined position. He was a quarterback his entire life. 2175 01:34:36.520 --> 01:34:39.520 But what we know is he's a terrific athlete. So 2176 01:34:39.600 --> 01:34:42.039 I think what Jason Beck and his staff are figuring 2177 01:34:42.079 --> 01:34:43.720 out this fall camp, and I think they were doing 2178 01:34:43.720 --> 01:34:46.159 a little bit in spring too, is you know where 2179 01:34:46.199 --> 01:34:49.800 his absolute strengths are, where you're going to see him 2180 01:34:50.359 --> 01:34:52.279 thrive the most. I don't think you're going to see 2181 01:34:52.319 --> 01:34:55.800 Nate Johnson on the field for forty five or fifty snaps, 2182 01:34:55.920 --> 01:34:58.000 Well maybe you I don't know, but my guess is 2183 01:34:58.199 --> 01:35:02.159 I think they're going to utilize him in situations that 2184 01:35:02.359 --> 01:35:06.560 best fit his athleticism and his football mold right now, 2185 01:35:06.600 --> 01:35:09.000 because again, yeah, I know, we saw him do a 2186 01:35:09.039 --> 01:35:10.199 lot of things when he was here a couple of 2187 01:35:10.279 --> 01:35:12.760 years ago. He sat behind the pavey at at Vandy 2188 01:35:12.840 --> 01:35:15.680 last year, so he's really learning to be a field 2189 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.520 player more than a quarterback right now. But I think 2190 01:35:18.560 --> 01:35:21.399 that you're going to see his role probably evolve as 2191 01:35:21.439 --> 01:35:23.720 the year goes along. It might be a small role 2192 01:35:23.760 --> 01:35:26.399 as the season begins, but if he thrives in that 2193 01:35:26.439 --> 01:35:29.880 small role, I could absolutely see him with an expanded 2194 01:35:29.960 --> 01:35:32.199 role as the season goes along, just because he's such 2195 01:35:32.199 --> 01:35:34.920 a phenomenal athlete. And when you see him even out 2196 01:35:34.960 --> 01:35:38.960 of the practice field, his size, his speed, his kind 2197 01:35:39.000 --> 01:35:41.279 of wiggle a little bit on the field, it stands out. 2198 01:35:41.359 --> 01:35:44.239 So I think, you know, initially it'll probably be a 2199 01:35:44.279 --> 01:35:47.239 little bit of a I don't even know if limited 2200 01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:49.199 is right word, but a smaller package. And then I 2201 01:35:49.239 --> 01:35:51.960 think as he gets more and more comfortable being a 2202 01:35:51.960 --> 01:35:53.760 field player, I think that package evolves. 2203 01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:56.000 I know I ask you every week, but it does 2204 01:35:56.039 --> 01:35:58.560 seem to be by a coach WIT's own admission. The 2205 01:35:58.600 --> 01:36:02.039 positional group on offense that has the most unknowns right now, 2206 01:36:02.079 --> 01:36:06.079 and if Devin's numbers will improve through the air, juxtapose 2207 01:36:06.159 --> 01:36:08.119 what he did a year ago in New Mexico. He's 2208 01:36:08.119 --> 01:36:11.039 got to find some receivers to catch the football. You know, 2209 01:36:11.079 --> 01:36:14.640 when you look at just the measurements the Merriweather kids 2210 01:36:14.640 --> 01:36:18.720 six five one ninety five, which certainly is the size 2211 01:36:18.760 --> 01:36:19.840 you want at that position. 2212 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:21.239 But how is that group coming? 2213 01:36:21.319 --> 01:36:21.479 Bill? 2214 01:36:21.520 --> 01:36:23.920 Can you share any progress with us? Hey? 2215 01:36:24.119 --> 01:36:26.520 I talked to Micah Simon, who's the wide receiver coach, 2216 01:36:26.640 --> 01:36:29.039 quite a bit after practices, and I think he likes 2217 01:36:29.079 --> 01:36:31.079 what he's seeing. I don't know that they've got their 2218 01:36:31.159 --> 01:36:34.199 locked in top six or seven yet, but I think 2219 01:36:34.199 --> 01:36:36.399 they're beginning to get a feel for it. I've heard 2220 01:36:36.439 --> 01:36:40.760 good things about Tobias Merriweather, as you mentioned Spence. He 2221 01:36:40.880 --> 01:36:44.760 has those measurables six' five one to ninety, five can 2222 01:36:44.840 --> 01:36:46.199 run a four to four and get. 2223 01:36:46.239 --> 01:36:47.520 Deep he has. 2224 01:36:47.560 --> 01:36:50.600 IT i Know Larry, simmons the transfer From Southern, myths 2225 01:36:50.600 --> 01:36:54.640 has had some good days. Too Creed, whittemore kid that's 2226 01:36:54.640 --> 01:36:57.960 a transfer From Mississippi, state has had some good. Practices 2227 01:36:58.079 --> 01:37:00.760 same thing With Ryan, davis who was in this offense last, 2228 01:37:00.840 --> 01:37:03.520 year And Dadrin, zipperer who was in this offense a year, 2229 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:06.760 ago has had some moments. Too SO i think they're 2230 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:07.960 beginning to get a feel for. 2231 01:37:08.039 --> 01:37:08.520 It you. 2232 01:37:08.560 --> 01:37:10.960 Know, again it's a little bit like the backup quarterback. 2233 01:37:11.000 --> 01:37:12.720 SPOT i don't know that you have to lock in 2234 01:37:12.760 --> 01:37:16.119 your top six now in the second week of, camp 2235 01:37:16.560 --> 01:37:18.920 BUT i think you probably want to have it locked 2236 01:37:19.000 --> 01:37:20.960 up by the time camp kind of wraps up next. 2237 01:37:20.960 --> 01:37:24.560 Week does it feel like Was shan IS rb one by? 2238 01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:27.600 Far and what else do can you tell us about that? 2239 01:37:28.039 --> 01:37:28.359 Room you? 2240 01:37:28.399 --> 01:37:31.960 Know Was Sean parker good freshman Year wazoo five point 2241 01:37:32.039 --> 01:37:36.520 four yards per carry wasn't their, primary but at practice 2242 01:37:36.520 --> 01:37:38.560 this last week he said he's looking to eclipse one, 2243 01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:41.600 thousand wants to touch fifteen. Hundred utah has had seventeen 2244 01:37:41.720 --> 01:37:44.960 one thousand yard running backs in its. History it's a 2245 01:37:45.000 --> 01:37:48.439 position that has great history and. Pedigree so does it 2246 01:37:48.439 --> 01:37:51.000 feel like Was shan has separated himself and who else 2247 01:37:51.079 --> 01:37:51.760 is shining in that? 2248 01:37:51.840 --> 01:37:56.159 ROOM i think he would probably BE rb one right. 2249 01:37:56.199 --> 01:37:59.119 NOW i don't know. THAT i think the days of you, 2250 01:37:59.119 --> 01:38:02.359 know remember When John white And Devontae booker and guys 2251 01:38:02.439 --> 01:38:05.159 like that would get thirty carries a. GAME i think 2252 01:38:05.199 --> 01:38:07.479 those days have gone by the. Wayside but remember Was 2253 01:38:07.600 --> 01:38:09.760 shawn last year as a, freshman a true freshman Of 2254 01:38:09.840 --> 01:38:13.159 Washington state ran for seven hundred and fifty seven hundred 2255 01:38:13.199 --> 01:38:16.119 and seventy. Yards he didn't have an offensive line like 2256 01:38:16.159 --> 01:38:19.039 he's got this year At, utah SO i would say 2257 01:38:19.199 --> 01:38:24.000 he's probably the number one. Option but Mckirie, rodgers who 2258 01:38:24.039 --> 01:38:26.079 played At New mexico a year, ago who was the 2259 01:38:26.119 --> 01:38:28.960 backup there a year, ago he's in the mix as. 2260 01:38:29.000 --> 01:38:33.479 WELL a green young man from UNLV's getting some. Touches 2261 01:38:33.520 --> 01:38:36.439 they really like this young kid from The dallas, Area Daniel. 2262 01:38:36.520 --> 01:38:39.720 Bray it's a true, freshman not a real big running back, 2263 01:38:39.800 --> 01:38:42.960 yet but he's super. Fast SO i think you're probably 2264 01:38:42.960 --> 01:38:44.479 going to see a little bit of a. MIX i 2265 01:38:44.479 --> 01:38:47.640 don't think we see one guy getting twenty seven to 2266 01:38:47.720 --> 01:38:51.359 thirty carries a, game BUT i think it's pretty fair 2267 01:38:51.399 --> 01:38:54.079 to say right now That wayshan would probably be that 2268 01:38:54.199 --> 01:38:56.640 lead guy With, rogers the guy who played in the 2269 01:38:56.680 --> 01:38:57.960 offense a year ago right behind. 2270 01:38:58.039 --> 01:38:59.039 Him you know. 2271 01:38:59.079 --> 01:39:02.439 You referenced the sketch AND i guess it depends on 2272 01:39:02.520 --> 01:39:05.159 what you read and who you listen. To BUT i 2273 01:39:05.199 --> 01:39:09.880 feel Like Texas, Tech Arizona, state And Kansas state are 2274 01:39:10.000 --> 01:39:13.359 three of WHAT i would say six or seven teams 2275 01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:16.520 that are mentioned to win The big, twelve you get 2276 01:39:16.560 --> 01:39:18.760 all three of those teams at. Home seems like the 2277 01:39:18.840 --> 01:39:23.359 road test will Be provo AGAINST, byu Then waco Against. 2278 01:39:23.439 --> 01:39:27.279 Baylor but just kind of generally, speaking your thoughts on the, 2279 01:39:27.279 --> 01:39:30.319 schedule how it starts out at The Rose bowl against 2280 01:39:30.319 --> 01:39:33.640 A ucla team with a lot of new. Players the 2281 01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:36.159 non con includes Cal poly at home than The Porter 2282 01:39:36.239 --> 01:39:36.920 Larson bowl And. 2283 01:39:36.960 --> 01:39:39.760 Laramie but what do you what do you make of 2284 01:39:39.840 --> 01:39:40.159 just the. 2285 01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:42.720 Schedule both non conon conference and we'll sell you loose after. 2286 01:39:42.760 --> 01:39:45.640 THIS i think it sets up pretty Well, spence to be, 2287 01:39:45.680 --> 01:39:47.880 FAIR i, mean you're playing two road. GAMES i THINK, 2288 01:39:48.000 --> 01:39:50.479 ucla you, KNOW i think they're going to be better 2289 01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:53.279 on offense this. Year they struggled last year early with 2290 01:39:53.439 --> 01:39:55.880 Did Deshaun foster as there is our head, coach first 2291 01:39:55.880 --> 01:39:58.159 semit coach got a little bit better as a year went, 2292 01:39:58.199 --> 01:40:01.760 along but defensively they have not been very good and 2293 01:40:01.800 --> 01:40:05.039 they look pretty empty. There this, year maybe something. Changes 2294 01:40:05.279 --> 01:40:08.199 we'll get to see Nko. Iamaliava we'll see what he's 2295 01:40:08.239 --> 01:40:11.720 able to. DO i Like utah's chances. There, obviously Cal 2296 01:40:11.800 --> 01:40:14.680 poly at. Home i'm not sure What yo's got just. 2297 01:40:14.800 --> 01:40:17.079 Yet they weren't picked super high in The Mount West. 2298 01:40:17.079 --> 01:40:20.560 Conference but going To, laramie and, again that's a game 2299 01:40:20.640 --> 01:40:22.920 right before you're coming home to Play Texas. Tech you 2300 01:40:22.960 --> 01:40:25.279 don't want to take anything for, granted BUT i think 2301 01:40:25.319 --> 01:40:28.279 those three games are all very winnable For. Utah and 2302 01:40:28.319 --> 01:40:31.039 then you get that first big Test Texas, tech who 2303 01:40:31.119 --> 01:40:34.039 spent depending on the reports you, here anywhere from twenty 2304 01:40:34.079 --> 01:40:37.000 five to fifty five million dollars in the offseason on their. 2305 01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:40.000 Roster they're going to be. Good they've got a regial 2306 01:40:40.079 --> 01:40:42.760 veteran quarterback coming, Back they've got they loaded up on 2307 01:40:42.760 --> 01:40:46.079 their offensive and defensive lines with. Transfers now the real 2308 01:40:46.159 --> 01:40:48.960 question is can you make all those guys fit together? 2309 01:40:49.039 --> 01:40:51.439 Quickly we'll, See BUT i like the way the schedule 2310 01:40:51.439 --> 01:40:53.279 plays out for, them and like you, said to Have, 2311 01:40:53.520 --> 01:40:57.000 tech to Have Arizona, state to Have Kansas state at, 2312 01:40:57.039 --> 01:41:00.199 HOME i think the two really tough road games are 2313 01:41:00.239 --> 01:41:03.880 they are them are The baylor game in Mid november 2314 01:41:04.399 --> 01:41:06.640 and that game In, provo which is always a tough. 2315 01:41:06.640 --> 01:41:10.000 Game THOUGH i will, say depending On kansas's health And 2316 01:41:10.119 --> 01:41:13.199 Jalen daniel's, health that could be a really big game 2317 01:41:13.239 --> 01:41:14.680 at the end of the. Year in, fact it might 2318 01:41:14.720 --> 01:41:16.800 be a game that determines whether you go to The 2319 01:41:16.840 --> 01:41:20.199 big twelve championship, game because if that kid's, healthy he is. 2320 01:41:20.319 --> 01:41:24.159 Dynamic he Is devin dam pier like in his. Athleticism 2321 01:41:24.479 --> 01:41:26.560 he's just been beat up the last couple of. Years 2322 01:41:26.600 --> 01:41:29.119 SO i think that could be a sneaky tough, game 2323 01:41:29.239 --> 01:41:32.760 Especially thanksgiving. Weekend BUT i do like the way the 2324 01:41:32.800 --> 01:41:36.760 schedule sets, up especially Having tech And Arizona state and 2325 01:41:36.840 --> 01:41:38.920 K state In Salt Lake. City BUT i agree with. 2326 01:41:39.000 --> 01:41:40.840 YOU i think there's five or six teams that could 2327 01:41:40.840 --> 01:41:43.159 make a real case for winning this. League and the 2328 01:41:43.199 --> 01:41:44.920 good news For utah is three of the five of 2329 01:41:44.960 --> 01:41:45.600 them play rice. 2330 01:41:45.600 --> 01:41:48.880 Cycles is your handler giving us the high? Sign is 2331 01:41:48.880 --> 01:41:49.560 that what's happening? 2332 01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:51.760 Now he might be coming down the? 2333 01:41:51.800 --> 01:41:53.520 Hall all, Right, Bill, well we'll set you. 2334 01:41:53.600 --> 01:41:56.079 Loose thanks for the, time, Buddy Thanks benthell talk you 2335 01:41:56.159 --> 01:41:56.880 Saying Bill. 2336 01:41:56.680 --> 01:42:00.279 Riley voice the you who now has a handler us 2337 01:42:00.279 --> 01:42:01.520 when he has to get off the. 2338 01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:05.640 Phone it was just a short time. Ago he was 2339 01:42:05.680 --> 01:42:06.760 just a he was just a. 2340 01:42:06.800 --> 01:42:10.279 Coworker what, Happens, well he's big time IN us, now 2341 01:42:10.319 --> 01:42:11.199 a big twelve media. 2342 01:42:11.279 --> 01:42:14.760 Day he was the one you coach wit didn't even 2343 01:42:14.800 --> 01:42:17.560 have a. Handler kyle sat down with us for twenty. 2344 01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:20.840 MINUTES i, KNOW i will, SAY i do know the. 2345 01:42:20.840 --> 01:42:21.840 Issue today. 2346 01:42:23.039 --> 01:42:25.039 They're about to do interviews on the, Hill so all, 2347 01:42:25.119 --> 01:42:26.680 right practice just got, Over. 2348 01:42:26.800 --> 01:42:30.800 OKAY i WAS i was surprised to Hear bill say 2349 01:42:31.279 --> 01:42:33.600 IF i gave him eight wins, today he takes. 2350 01:42:33.640 --> 01:42:34.920 THAT i was a little. 2351 01:42:34.920 --> 01:42:39.760 Too now he's up there every, day he may have 2352 01:42:39.840 --> 01:42:41.159 a little CLOSER i than we. 2353 01:42:41.199 --> 01:42:41.800 Do, right we're. 2354 01:42:41.840 --> 01:42:47.800 Not we're not operating off of seeing these guys on the. 2355 01:42:47.840 --> 01:42:52.279 Field so, hey maybe this early in camp there's a 2356 01:42:52.279 --> 01:42:58.640 little trepidation on you, know saying we're gonna win nine ten. 2357 01:42:58.720 --> 01:43:04.800 Games i'm okay with. That let's revisit this exact conversation 2358 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:08.359 WHEN i Get bill on final week of fall, camp 2359 01:43:08.520 --> 01:43:13.079 right when we get those guys on in Late, august 2360 01:43:13.560 --> 01:43:15.279 that's WHEN i feel like maybe we can put some 2361 01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:15.760 stock into. 2362 01:43:15.800 --> 01:43:18.079 It, yeah a couple of scrimmages left between now AND 2363 01:43:18.199 --> 01:43:21.720 ucla Coach beck last week did say that this week 2364 01:43:22.520 --> 01:43:26.119 they are starting their game specific planning for The. Bruins 2365 01:43:26.720 --> 01:43:29.560 AND i would imagine if you're starting to implement schemes 2366 01:43:29.640 --> 01:43:32.119 and you're starting to really put a game plan. Together 2367 01:43:33.039 --> 01:43:35.760 and we talked about this earlier WITH. BYU i don't 2368 01:43:35.800 --> 01:43:38.720 know who's starting a quarterback FOR, byu but my guess 2369 01:43:38.800 --> 01:43:42.159 is they know or they have a lean And i'm 2370 01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.359 quite sure whether it's the backup quarterback job With Bird 2371 01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:49.520 ficklin And Isaac wilson or this wide receiver room that 2372 01:43:49.600 --> 01:43:53.800 feels so full of. Unknowns if they're putting in game 2373 01:43:53.880 --> 01:43:58.239 plans this, week they certainly have an, idea if not knowing, 2374 01:43:58.279 --> 01:44:02.039 altogether who's the Backup devin and how that wide receiver 2375 01:44:02.119 --> 01:44:04.319 room is going to, look what the defensive line rotation 2376 01:44:04.439 --> 01:44:04.920 is going to look. 2377 01:44:04.960 --> 01:44:07.800 Like because it's no longer like it is time, man 2378 01:44:07.880 --> 01:44:08.239 like we're. 2379 01:44:08.239 --> 01:44:11.279 There we are basically three weeks in change away from game. 2380 01:44:11.359 --> 01:44:14.560 Day interesting thing ABOUT ucla is they're going to be 2381 01:44:14.600 --> 01:44:18.640 a little bit better, offensively but they're among the lowest 2382 01:44:18.760 --> 01:44:21.720 teams in the country in returning, production not just in 2383 01:44:21.720 --> 01:44:24.680 The big. TEN i think we've talked about this. THOUGH 2384 01:44:24.720 --> 01:44:27.239 i do like that landing. SPOT i Like game. 2385 01:44:27.319 --> 01:44:29.520 ONE i like that it's a BRAND i like that 2386 01:44:29.560 --> 01:44:31.880 it's The Rose, bowl AND i like you have A 2387 01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:35.159 ucla team, where even if they're not you know what 2388 01:44:35.239 --> 01:44:37.760 they have been historically, speaking you get a win OVER 2389 01:44:37.840 --> 01:44:40.279 ucla at The Rose bowl week, one over a brand 2390 01:44:40.319 --> 01:44:43.479 name team and a team that maybe isn't all that 2391 01:44:43.600 --> 01:44:46.640 dominant that it feels like a nice landing spot for. 2392 01:44:46.680 --> 01:44:47.319 ME i think so. 2393 01:44:47.399 --> 01:44:51.119 Too, obviously scheduling happens so far out that it's not 2394 01:44:51.199 --> 01:44:54.960 like this is something you, planned you baked. In but 2395 01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:59.039 getting an opponent THAT, i you, KNOW i Think utah can, beat, 2396 01:45:00.600 --> 01:45:03.000 now it's not a. Cakewalk it's not AN fcs. School 2397 01:45:03.000 --> 01:45:06.119 it's not you, know opening up against a team that 2398 01:45:06.279 --> 01:45:10.000 is paying their entire yearly budget just to come up 2399 01:45:10.039 --> 01:45:10.319 here and. 2400 01:45:11.920 --> 01:45:12.159 Get. 2401 01:45:12.199 --> 01:45:14.199 Stomped that's not what you have week. 2402 01:45:14.279 --> 01:45:18.000 One it's a winnable football game against a school you 2403 01:45:18.039 --> 01:45:22.479 have history, against against a school Who Kyle whittingham has historically, 2404 01:45:22.520 --> 01:45:30.079 dominated and you know, worse worse, thing it doesn't. Matter 2405 01:45:30.840 --> 01:45:34.000 it's a non conference game against a Former pac twelve. 2406 01:45:34.000 --> 01:45:36.319 Fo if you have to knock The rust off and 2407 01:45:36.359 --> 01:45:38.520 go ohn one in week, one well at least you 2408 01:45:38.600 --> 01:45:38.920 do it In. 2409 01:45:39.000 --> 01:45:42.520 Pasadena, yeah that's fair and you're not, wrong because the 2410 01:45:42.560 --> 01:45:45.520 conference games are what. Matters but with this non conference, 2411 01:45:45.600 --> 01:45:49.079 SCHEDULE i do think the expectation should be The Utah 2412 01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:50.399 inters conference play three and. 2413 01:45:50.439 --> 01:45:52.239 OHO i think they're going to be favorite AT. 2414 01:45:52.319 --> 01:45:56.279 Ucla we'll see what the game line looks like during game, 2415 01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:58.720 week which again three weeks in. Change they are of 2416 01:45:58.720 --> 01:46:01.600 course going to be a massive Favor the Cal poly 2417 01:46:01.760 --> 01:46:03.439 game is going to be one of those like seventy 2418 01:46:03.520 --> 01:46:07.079 to three, games and then on the road At. Laramie 2419 01:46:07.119 --> 01:46:10.159 if this was nineteen ninety, seven Maybe i'd say that's 2420 01:46:10.199 --> 01:46:13.239 a little bit. Tricky it shouldn't be this. Year so 2421 01:46:13.319 --> 01:46:16.960 the first conference, Game Texas tech at, home the expectation 2422 01:46:17.079 --> 01:46:19.079 has to Be utahs three and zero heading into that, 2423 01:46:19.119 --> 01:46:22.119 game even though the non conference games don't carry the 2424 01:46:22.159 --> 01:46:25.439 same type of weight that the conference games. Carry Texas, 2425 01:46:25.479 --> 01:46:28.640 Tech Arizona, state and K state at, home that's a 2426 01:46:28.680 --> 01:46:30.520 big deal BECAUSE i do think those are three and 2427 01:46:30.560 --> 01:46:33.600 if you look At Bill CONLEY'S s AND p and 2428 01:46:33.640 --> 01:46:36.600 then out Of Adam rittenberg wrote a piece about the 2429 01:46:36.640 --> 01:46:39.279 thirty two teams he thinks can actually win the national. 2430 01:46:39.399 --> 01:46:42.960 Championship he lists all three of those. Teams he Lists Texas, 2431 01:46:43.000 --> 01:46:45.319 tech he Lists Arizona, State any Lists Case. 2432 01:46:45.319 --> 01:46:47.279 State three really. 2433 01:46:47.079 --> 01:46:49.479 Good football teams out of this conference that will be 2434 01:46:49.520 --> 01:46:51.920 playing here In Salt Lake. City of, course the two 2435 01:46:51.960 --> 01:46:55.039 biggest road tests by far AT byu down In, provo 2436 01:46:55.159 --> 01:46:58.399 then At baylor In. Wacombe all, right we'll get back 2437 01:46:58.399 --> 01:47:00.840 to college football in the five o'clock the, program but 2438 01:47:01.000 --> 01:47:04.560 from a local, standpoint there's actually a game. TONIGHT rsl 2439 01:47:05.199 --> 01:47:08.279 is An action In Leagues cup, play and we will 2440 01:47:08.319 --> 01:47:11.920 see one of their shiny new. Toys Ron cruz has 2441 01:47:11.920 --> 01:47:14.800 been given his work. Visa he's available For pablo to play. 2442 01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:18.960 Tonight and then they made The olatunji signing official as. 2443 01:47:19.000 --> 01:47:21.079 Well all, right we'll get back to some of their 2444 01:47:21.119 --> 01:47:26.640 college football conversation in the five o'clock. Hour got SOME 2445 01:47:26.760 --> 01:47:30.359 nfl preseason as. Well coming up this, weekend we'll get 2446 01:47:30.399 --> 01:47:33.039 to we'll take it out at Six Tony parks stopped 2447 01:47:33.039 --> 01:47:36.520 by Earlier Dave fox rolled in, studio then a couple 2448 01:47:36.560 --> 01:47:38.520 of minutes with the voice of the Youths Bill. Riley 2449 01:47:38.560 --> 01:47:42.239 BUT rsl is an action tonight and we will see 2450 01:47:42.279 --> 01:47:44.079 the debut of one of their new. 2451 01:47:44.119 --> 01:47:45.720 Players Rown cruz. 2452 01:47:45.439 --> 01:47:48.760 Has received his visa and it's eligible to make his 2453 01:47:48.840 --> 01:47:52.880 club debut tonight In League's cup. Action Kurt schmidt the 2454 01:47:52.920 --> 01:47:56.720 primary decision, maker The director Of Soccer ops or whatever 2455 01:47:56.760 --> 01:47:58.960 the new title. Is he's just the guy that signs the, 2456 01:47:59.000 --> 01:48:01.720 players which is a very important. Role, Kurt Happy, Wednesday, 2457 01:48:01.720 --> 01:48:02.199 sir how are? 2458 01:48:02.199 --> 01:48:03.600 You i'm? 2459 01:48:03.640 --> 01:48:04.119 Good how are? 2460 01:48:04.159 --> 01:48:06.119 You i'm. Good let's start With Rowan. 2461 01:48:06.199 --> 01:48:09.319 Cruise let's start with the new player you have, signed 2462 01:48:10.239 --> 01:48:13.680 and potentially we'll get to see him. Tonight origin, Story, 2463 01:48:13.760 --> 01:48:15.600 Kurt when did you first hear about? Him how did 2464 01:48:15.600 --> 01:48:17.640 this process play? Out what kind of what kind of 2465 01:48:17.640 --> 01:48:18.079 player is? 2466 01:48:18.119 --> 01:48:22.319 He, yeah we've we've actually been aware of him for 2467 01:48:22.319 --> 01:48:24.760 for a. WHILE i think it's been it's almost been 2468 01:48:24.800 --> 01:48:28.199 a at least nine or twelve months since we first 2469 01:48:28.239 --> 01:48:32.039 heard his. Name we, actually you, know worked on him 2470 01:48:32.119 --> 01:48:35.640 earlier in this in this, season in the primary, window 2471 01:48:36.000 --> 01:48:39.279 he had made a big move To Vota, fogo but 2472 01:48:39.600 --> 01:48:41.760 there was a chance that they might not use him 2473 01:48:41.760 --> 01:48:43.720 as much as they, thought and so we we were 2474 01:48:43.760 --> 01:48:46.800 speaking to them about alone a few months, ago but 2475 01:48:46.880 --> 01:48:49.399 things didn't quite line, up and so to have them 2476 01:48:49.439 --> 01:48:52.720 line up now is, obviously you, know, serendipitous which you 2477 01:48:52.720 --> 01:48:54.640 always need a little bit of that in this in 2478 01:48:54.720 --> 01:48:56.800 this line of. Work but you, know it's good that 2479 01:48:56.840 --> 01:48:59.119 we were to line everything up and bring him on 2480 01:48:59.159 --> 01:49:01.880 board for the rest of this year and hopefully next 2481 01:49:01.960 --> 01:49:02.199 year as. 2482 01:49:02.239 --> 01:49:05.359 Well So pablo this week referred to him as like 2483 01:49:05.359 --> 01:49:07.560 a nine and a, half you, know a striker that 2484 01:49:07.600 --> 01:49:09.039 can score goals but also make. 2485 01:49:09.079 --> 01:49:10.840 Plays what sort of player Is? 2486 01:49:10.920 --> 01:49:15.880 Ruwan, yeah nine and a, half, Nine he's sort of 2487 01:49:15.920 --> 01:49:18.399 done both of those. Things and one of the things 2488 01:49:18.399 --> 01:49:21.359 that's a positive about him is he can fit with 2489 01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:24.760 the rest of our. Players he doesn't have one role 2490 01:49:24.760 --> 01:49:26.720 that he has to do this, thing and so you, 2491 01:49:26.760 --> 01:49:28.680 know you can only pair him with these certain players 2492 01:49:28.680 --> 01:49:33.039 he can balance OFF i think anyone in our attack 2493 01:49:33.079 --> 01:49:34.880 currently that we would play up top next to, him 2494 01:49:35.039 --> 01:49:37.159 which is a. Positive he is probably a little more 2495 01:49:37.520 --> 01:49:39.800 comfortable or adept in that nine and a half, role 2496 01:49:39.840 --> 01:49:42.239 which just, means you, know he's someone that maybe gets 2497 01:49:42.239 --> 01:49:44.560 the ball defeat a little bit more than comes from 2498 01:49:44.600 --> 01:49:47.960 a slightly deeper space than the nine whose main job 2499 01:49:48.039 --> 01:49:51.720 is to stretch and push the center backs back and 2500 01:49:51.760 --> 01:49:54.159 occupy those two guys to create some space. Underneath so 2501 01:49:54.960 --> 01:49:57.560 he's a guy that can play and. Connect you can 2502 01:49:57.560 --> 01:49:59.479 play the ball into, him get it back off of, him. 2503 01:49:59.479 --> 01:50:03.920 Combine he moves well after receiving and, passing and he 2504 01:50:03.960 --> 01:50:06.479 finds good spaces in the. Box and he was able 2505 01:50:06.479 --> 01:50:09.439 to score quite a few goals doing that thing In. 2506 01:50:09.680 --> 01:50:14.680 Bulgaria so help me understand the type of level he's 2507 01:50:14.720 --> 01:50:18.720 been playing, At, kurt and how that, compares if it 2508 01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:21.760 does at, all WITH. Mls it's been it's always been 2509 01:50:21.800 --> 01:50:24.920 fascinating to me to witness players come from certain leagues 2510 01:50:24.960 --> 01:50:28.800 in certain countries and certain levels in other places and 2511 01:50:28.840 --> 01:50:31.880 either really struggle to acclimate or just shine. 2512 01:50:31.640 --> 01:50:32.119 Right out of the. 2513 01:50:32.119 --> 01:50:35.159 Gates how does his level of play recently compare to 2514 01:50:35.199 --> 01:50:36.279 what he's going to be up AGAINST. 2515 01:50:36.359 --> 01:50:38.920 Nmls it's a. 2516 01:50:38.840 --> 01:50:42.960 Great, Question and level of play doesn't where he's coming, 2517 01:50:42.960 --> 01:50:45.439 from doesn't so much dictate how he'll do, here but 2518 01:50:45.560 --> 01:50:48.159 it just tries to give you clues because the adaptation 2519 01:50:48.399 --> 01:50:51.239 risk is one of the biggest risks that we encounter 2520 01:50:51.279 --> 01:50:51.920 when we're signing. 2521 01:50:52.000 --> 01:50:54.560 Players how do they adapt to this? League adapt to this. 2522 01:50:54.600 --> 01:50:57.680 Country there's a lot of off field factors that play into. 2523 01:50:57.680 --> 01:51:00.560 It cultural factors or you, know they once you, know 2524 01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:02.359 they come to, practice they go, home they come to, 2525 01:51:02.439 --> 01:51:04.520 games they go. Home you, know they're at home more 2526 01:51:04.520 --> 01:51:07.000 time than they're with us. Often so when they're at, 2527 01:51:07.000 --> 01:51:08.880 home what are they. Doing do they have a, family 2528 01:51:08.960 --> 01:51:10.920 are they you, know do they know how to go grocery? 2529 01:51:10.920 --> 01:51:13.239 Shopping are they comfortable eating the food in the? Sculpture 2530 01:51:13.239 --> 01:51:16.239 all these things play into. It language is certainly the obvious, 2531 01:51:16.279 --> 01:51:19.079 One so all those things play into. It so it's 2532 01:51:19.279 --> 01:51:22.239 hard to say that he's coming from this, level so you, 2533 01:51:22.279 --> 01:51:24.479 know we know he can do this sort of thing 2534 01:51:24.600 --> 01:51:26.560 in our. League one of the things, though that was 2535 01:51:26.640 --> 01:51:28.439 very important to us as we were looking for this, 2536 01:51:28.560 --> 01:51:31.720 player is that we find the player who was used 2537 01:51:31.720 --> 01:51:34.199 to carrying the load for his. Team so if we 2538 01:51:34.239 --> 01:51:37.000 find a guy who has, scored you, know double digit 2539 01:51:37.000 --> 01:51:39.439 plus goals in the season for his, team has been 2540 01:51:39.479 --> 01:51:41.720 the main man and had to put them on his 2541 01:51:41.840 --> 01:51:44.479 on his back at different, points that's, something you, know 2542 01:51:44.520 --> 01:51:47.680 that's that's something that we wanted this player to have 2543 01:51:47.760 --> 01:51:52.319 experience so that when they come, here they they won't 2544 01:51:52.960 --> 01:51:55.520 be surprised that's something that they're asked to do, here 2545 01:51:55.560 --> 01:51:57.920 but they can shoulder the goal scoring load and and 2546 01:51:58.159 --> 01:51:59.760 not be the first time that they've been asked to do. 2547 01:51:59.800 --> 01:52:03.560 That so as far as the way this contract, works 2548 01:52:04.039 --> 01:52:06.960 it is a loan with a purchase, option is What i've. 2549 01:52:07.000 --> 01:52:10.800 READ i would imagine that you would very much like 2550 01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.439 to keep him around long term if it works. Out 2551 01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:17.640 so what's this process going to be like and kind 2552 01:52:17.640 --> 01:52:20.239 of walk us through what options you have to kind 2553 01:52:20.239 --> 01:52:22.239 of keep him here long term if he steps in 2554 01:52:22.279 --> 01:52:22.920 and plays really. 2555 01:52:22.960 --> 01:52:26.359 Well, yeah this structure just gives us. 2556 01:52:26.399 --> 01:52:28.880 Flexibility but, certainly you, know we brought him here because 2557 01:52:28.880 --> 01:52:30.760 we like, him and you, know we'd love for the 2558 01:52:30.840 --> 01:52:34.960 relationship to be longer. Term for, now he's he's with 2559 01:52:35.039 --> 01:52:40.399 us for a minimum of basically twelve, months and then 2560 01:52:40.439 --> 01:52:42.199 we have an option to extend through the end of 2561 01:52:42.199 --> 01:52:46.479 the season the, loan and then before the loan, terminates 2562 01:52:46.840 --> 01:52:50.199 we have the option to purchase him should we decide 2563 01:52:50.199 --> 01:52:52.720 to do. So and obviously a lot of factors go into, 2564 01:52:52.760 --> 01:52:55.000 that you, know his performance being one of the biggest, 2565 01:52:55.000 --> 01:52:57.680 ones but certainly the finances and all that play into 2566 01:52:57.720 --> 01:53:00.239 it as. Well we think it's, that you, know good 2567 01:53:00.319 --> 01:53:05.359 number relative to what he's moved forward, recently and given 2568 01:53:05.600 --> 01:53:08.000 you know the expectations of what he could do for, 2569 01:53:08.159 --> 01:53:12.319 us you, know so we're comfortable with those those aspects of. 2570 01:53:12.319 --> 01:53:14.880 IT i believe he's been on the ground eleven, days 2571 01:53:15.079 --> 01:53:18.600 so give us some early returns in, training meeting the, 2572 01:53:18.640 --> 01:53:22.439 team you, know meeting his, teammates meeting the coaching. Staff 2573 01:53:22.479 --> 01:53:25.960 pablo was singing his praises about what a nice kid he. 2574 01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:28.720 Is so eleven days actually here on the, ground what 2575 01:53:28.800 --> 01:53:29.039 can you? 2576 01:53:29.079 --> 01:53:34.239 Share, yeah nice kid speaks speaks More english than you 2577 01:53:34.319 --> 01:53:37.439 might expect from a guy who's only lived In bulgaria And. 2578 01:53:37.520 --> 01:53:41.279 Brazil you, know gets, along seems to get along really 2579 01:53:41.319 --> 01:53:45.319 well with his, teammates and you, know he's gotten into 2580 01:53:45.319 --> 01:53:49.079 some training. Sessions. Now it's been a little tough because 2581 01:53:49.119 --> 01:53:53.000 of the closeness of all the Games Wednesday, Saturday Wednesday. 2582 01:53:53.000 --> 01:53:55.960 Saturday the rhythm of the trainings have been a little 2583 01:53:55.960 --> 01:53:58.560 bit broken. Up so we haven't been in the pun 2584 01:53:58.640 --> 01:54:01.199 in sort of big spaces with our group just because 2585 01:54:01.640 --> 01:54:04.000 our group has been recovering and preparing for the next. 2586 01:54:04.000 --> 01:54:06.880 Game but we've seen him in moments in front of 2587 01:54:06.880 --> 01:54:09.359 goal you, know he looked. Good he's got he's got 2588 01:54:09.399 --> 01:54:12.319 the soft. Feet LIKE i, said he can, combine he 2589 01:54:12.399 --> 01:54:14.359 moves well off of. That so those those have been, 2590 01:54:14.399 --> 01:54:17.199 positives and LIKE i, said off the, field he seems 2591 01:54:17.239 --> 01:54:20.159 to be. Integrating obviously that's a slower. Process it'll take, 2592 01:54:20.199 --> 01:54:21.920 time but the early returns on that are very. 2593 01:54:21.920 --> 01:54:24.359 GOOD i have a feeling you're going to tell me 2594 01:54:24.439 --> 01:54:26.399 this is up To, Pablo but do you think we 2595 01:54:26.439 --> 01:54:27.039 will see him? 2596 01:54:27.039 --> 01:54:31.960 Tonight, well, YEAH i mean it is up to up 2597 01:54:32.039 --> 01:54:36.199 to the. Game i'd be surprised if he doesn't decide 2598 01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:38.000 to put him into the game tonight at some. Points 2599 01:54:38.079 --> 01:54:40.880 and certainly it's a good moment to get him into a, 2600 01:54:40.960 --> 01:54:44.000 game you, know in this Last League's cup game as 2601 01:54:44.000 --> 01:54:49.039 we as we start restart league play on On. Sunday you, 2602 01:54:49.039 --> 01:54:52.359 know regardless of what what The League's cup future holds for, 2603 01:54:52.439 --> 01:54:54.760 us getting him into this game is going to just 2604 01:54:54.840 --> 01:54:59.359 help speed up the acclimatization of him to our team 2605 01:54:59.399 --> 01:54:59.560 in our. 2606 01:54:59.640 --> 01:55:03.239 League as far as the approach, TONIGHT i BELIEVE i 2607 01:55:03.279 --> 01:55:06.239 started reading the tiebreaker Scenarios, kurt THEN i DECIDED i 2608 01:55:06.239 --> 01:55:06.600 wanted to go. 2609 01:55:06.640 --> 01:55:07.159 On living my. 2610 01:55:07.239 --> 01:55:10.560 Life BUT i believe you need all three tonight and 2611 01:55:10.680 --> 01:55:14.279 like six results to go your. Way so it's an 2612 01:55:14.279 --> 01:55:17.239 interesting approach where obviously you want to win and get 2613 01:55:17.239 --> 01:55:19.560 all three and then hope that luck is on your, 2614 01:55:19.600 --> 01:55:22.880 side but with such a small chance of advancing and 2615 01:55:22.960 --> 01:55:25.359 a team that probably is suffering from a bit of 2616 01:55:25.359 --> 01:55:28.520 fatigue because the truncated, schedule maybe you want to rest 2617 01:55:28.560 --> 01:55:30.880 some guys. Too what's what's the approach tonight as you 2618 01:55:31.279 --> 01:55:32.079 enter the league's cup. 2619 01:55:32.119 --> 01:55:35.960 Match, YEAH i, mean, look we've got to take you, 2620 01:55:36.000 --> 01:55:38.479 know this is very, cliche, Right we've got to take 2621 01:55:38.479 --> 01:55:41.079 care of our. Result the rest of it is in 2622 01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:43.439 the hands of the. Universe so you, know the other, 2623 01:55:43.560 --> 01:55:47.840 NIGHT i think things broke for us had we maximize 2624 01:55:47.840 --> 01:55:50.279 our point, total but we didn't take care of our. 2625 01:55:50.439 --> 01:55:54.039 Job so we just have to do do what we can, 2626 01:55:54.079 --> 01:55:56.039 do control the controllables and do what's in front of, 2627 01:55:56.159 --> 01:55:59.239 us and then you, know figure out where the chips 2628 01:55:59.239 --> 01:56:03.000 fall after after everyone else. Plays but from a fatigue, 2629 01:56:03.039 --> 01:56:06.119 standpoint you're. RIGHT i think certainly the whole group has 2630 01:56:06.119 --> 01:56:08.439 been playing and putting in the work and playing every you, 2631 01:56:08.439 --> 01:56:11.800 know every three four days over the last few. Weeks 2632 01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:14.720 but there are some, guys you, know that have had 2633 01:56:15.800 --> 01:56:18.279 more games than. Others and we you, know we've brought 2634 01:56:18.319 --> 01:56:20.840 The egg off the bench the other night because he's you, 2635 01:56:20.840 --> 01:56:23.239 know he's played more games in the last two months 2636 01:56:23.319 --> 01:56:26.000 THAN i think we have as a, team just with 2637 01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:28.199 The Gold cup and those sorts of. Things and you 2638 01:56:28.239 --> 01:56:30.680 know a few other guys who haven't really been rotated 2639 01:56:30.680 --> 01:56:34.159 out in a, while you, know maybe get a little 2640 01:56:34.199 --> 01:56:36.720 bit of a rest or come or come off the 2641 01:56:36.760 --> 01:56:40.319 bench and play a few less minutes in this, one 2642 01:56:40.439 --> 01:56:42.600 and we get to see some of the some of 2643 01:56:42.640 --> 01:56:44.880 the guys that you know that need to push for 2644 01:56:44.920 --> 01:56:47.079 their starting jobs from the. Bench BUT i think that 2645 01:56:47.119 --> 01:56:48.840 we've put out a, team or we will put out 2646 01:56:48.880 --> 01:56:52.680 a team that we're really confident and while also preparing 2647 01:56:52.760 --> 01:56:54.840 for you, know the next run of, games. 2648 01:56:55.079 --> 01:56:57.760 You made another signing that became, official SO i can 2649 01:56:57.800 --> 01:57:00.960 ask you About Victor. OLATUNJI i believe he had arrived On, 2650 01:57:01.079 --> 01:57:03.119 sunday not available. 2651 01:57:03.159 --> 01:57:03.479 Tonight. 2652 01:57:03.800 --> 01:57:06.760 Uh my understanding is you're hoping to get that visa 2653 01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:09.560 across the line prior to this. Weekend you've Got New 2654 01:57:09.640 --> 01:57:12.920 york On. Sunday but let's start with same. QUESTION i 2655 01:57:12.960 --> 01:57:15.640 ask you About cruz origin. Story when did you first 2656 01:57:15.720 --> 01:57:17.960 discover this. Kid what was the process that brought him 2657 01:57:18.000 --> 01:57:18.399 here At Salt. 2658 01:57:18.439 --> 01:57:22.000 Lake, yeah that one was a little more. RECENT i 2659 01:57:22.000 --> 01:57:23.680 think we picked him up just in the last six 2660 01:57:23.720 --> 01:57:27.119 months and started following. Him you, know he's a guy 2661 01:57:27.199 --> 01:57:30.560 that is is like we talked about nine nine and a, 2662 01:57:30.600 --> 01:57:32.880 half he's more of a nine to nine or he's 2663 01:57:32.920 --> 01:57:34.920 got a you, know he likes to play up, top 2664 01:57:34.960 --> 01:57:38.359 he likes to be. Physical he's got a big. Frame you, 2665 01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:40.880 know he's got got more size than we have elsewhere 2666 01:57:40.920 --> 01:57:43.960 on our team and, strength and he's he's a guy 2667 01:57:43.960 --> 01:57:45.680 that can hold the ball, up that can run in. 2668 01:57:45.760 --> 01:57:49.560 Behind he's got good, speed he's good at driving the 2669 01:57:49.600 --> 01:57:53.199 defense back and creating space underneath him for guy Like 2670 01:57:53.239 --> 01:57:56.399 diego And jego to. Operate and he's a big, target you, 2671 01:57:56.399 --> 01:57:58.319 know in and around the box for us to find 2672 01:57:58.359 --> 01:57:58.720 in front of. 2673 01:57:58.720 --> 01:58:02.560 Goal interesting he references, size, well that was one of 2674 01:58:02.600 --> 01:58:05.079 the first Things pablo. Reference he actually, said we're kind 2675 01:58:05.079 --> 01:58:08.680 of a small, team more of like a target or 2676 01:58:08.720 --> 01:58:10.239 an athlete that just happens to be. 2677 01:58:10.319 --> 01:58:16.039 TALL i wouldn't say he's, like you, know he's not 2678 01:58:16.119 --> 01:58:18.640 a guy that kind of makes all his money in 2679 01:58:18.680 --> 01:58:20.920 the air from that and from that, standpoint like so 2680 01:58:20.960 --> 01:58:22.479 he's not a guy who can only really play with 2681 01:58:22.520 --> 01:58:25.199 his head or is you, know maybe dominance with his, 2682 01:58:25.279 --> 01:58:27.680 head but the kind of average everywhere eld he's more well. 2683 01:58:27.800 --> 01:58:32.279 Rounded but from a from a size, standpoint, yeah He's 2684 01:58:32.319 --> 01:58:34.680 he's a big boy that's gonna occupy a lot of 2685 01:58:34.720 --> 01:58:36.680 attention from center backs and he's going to make it 2686 01:58:36.720 --> 01:58:40.560 really really difficult on the other team center backs to 2687 01:58:40.000 --> 01:58:41.439 uh to win the ball off of. 2688 01:58:41.479 --> 01:58:44.960 Him what is uh Ole? Tunji as far as his contract? 2689 01:58:45.000 --> 01:58:51.520 Details two point five million Fee. Tam for our listeners 2690 01:58:51.560 --> 01:58:54.880 who know nothing About, tam including, me that's what he. 2691 01:58:55.039 --> 01:58:58.039 Is but is he around for multiple? Years what are 2692 01:58:58.079 --> 01:58:58.680 his contract? 2693 01:58:58.680 --> 01:59:03.760 Details, yeah we've got we've got four years or, sorry 2694 01:59:04.880 --> 01:59:08.720 four plus years on him with option including the option. 2695 01:59:08.800 --> 01:59:12.039 Years and, Yeah, TAM i guess you're. Right it's will 2696 01:59:12.079 --> 01:59:14.680 be a wonderful ten. Means but essentially what it means 2697 01:59:14.720 --> 01:59:17.000 is we took that transfer fee and instead of paying 2698 01:59:17.000 --> 01:59:20.199 it all at, once we've structured the paintings out over 2699 01:59:20.399 --> 01:59:21.199 over a few. 2700 01:59:21.239 --> 01:59:27.000 Years are you a bigger fan Of tam or gam uh? 2701 01:59:27.439 --> 01:59:31.800 Neither just just give me cash that you can send 2702 01:59:31.800 --> 01:59:34.039 me Cash. SPENCE i don't need tame or game right. 2703 01:59:34.039 --> 01:59:36.000 Now at some Point i'm gonna make you laugh on the. 2704 01:59:36.039 --> 01:59:37.760 SHOW i don't know How i'm gonna, land but at 2705 01:59:37.760 --> 01:59:38.600 some Point i'm gonna do. 2706 01:59:38.640 --> 01:59:41.600 It, uh how do you think you should say? Something? Fun? 2707 01:59:41.840 --> 01:59:44.880 Not fair? Enough fair? Enough well? Played? Sir how do 2708 01:59:44.920 --> 01:59:46.159 you how do. 2709 01:59:46.119 --> 01:59:51.039 You anticipate cruise And olatunji is spitting in With, Diego, Diego, 2710 01:59:51.880 --> 01:59:55.439 gozo you, know don the whole group like when when 2711 01:59:55.520 --> 01:59:58.720 they have enough time under their, Belt dac lame To 2712 01:59:58.840 --> 02:00:01.399 pablo and get it the right shape and this thing 2713 02:00:02.000 --> 02:00:02.840 is going to be fully. 2714 02:00:02.880 --> 02:00:05.239 Developed how do you kind of see that group playing? 2715 02:00:05.239 --> 02:00:09.000 Together, YEAH i mean they both bring slightly different. Things 2716 02:00:09.279 --> 02:00:11.039 and LIKE i, Said victor is the guy that will 2717 02:00:11.479 --> 02:00:14.239 stretch and push center backs back and create space underneath 2718 02:00:14.279 --> 02:00:17.359 him for for guys Like Diego diego to operate in that, 2719 02:00:17.439 --> 02:00:20.000 space receive the well turn and then play the ball 2720 02:00:20.079 --> 02:00:22.479 through and you you know find him with their through 2721 02:00:22.560 --> 02:00:26.600 balls ideally and creatchans on. Goal you, know Uh rwan 2722 02:00:27.279 --> 02:00:30.199 Or juan is someone who who both those guys can 2723 02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:32.640 play the play the ball into and get it off 2724 02:00:32.720 --> 02:00:35.520 of and so they can combine around around the defense 2725 02:00:35.640 --> 02:00:38.960 to to create, space and he's he's someone that will 2726 02:00:39.159 --> 02:00:42.239 give them that target and be a reference point for 2727 02:00:42.359 --> 02:00:44.640 them for you know, guys you know guy Like dom 2728 02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:47.560 on the wing Or gozo even you, know both guys 2729 02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:50.840 will be really good targets behind the last line and 2730 02:00:51.199 --> 02:00:54.560 in the box for their. Service so you, know they 2731 02:00:54.680 --> 02:00:57.119 PROVIDE i think different things for each one of those, 2732 02:00:57.159 --> 02:01:00.439 guys but the the the net net of it all 2733 02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:03.640 is both guys will make the jobs of the other 2734 02:01:04.079 --> 02:01:06.800 other you, know two three four attackers whatever underneath them 2735 02:01:07.079 --> 02:01:07.319 a lot. 2736 02:01:07.399 --> 02:01:12.800 Easier so let's, see today's date Is august, Sixth kurt 2737 02:01:12.960 --> 02:01:16.319 just so you know that is there's fifteen days left 2738 02:01:16.439 --> 02:01:20.000 in this. Window is your work? Done are you working 2739 02:01:20.079 --> 02:01:22.720 on other? Editions what can you share with OUR rsl fan. 2740 02:01:22.840 --> 02:01:25.119 Listeners, yeah we're. 2741 02:01:24.960 --> 02:01:31.119 Working on probably, one one or two more. Things you, 2742 02:01:31.159 --> 02:01:34.840 know it's obviously you know they haven't come together, yet 2743 02:01:36.000 --> 02:01:39.439 so you, know nothing's, guaranteed But i'm hopeful to get 2744 02:01:39.600 --> 02:01:44.439 one or two more guys in the door potentially. There 2745 02:01:44.560 --> 02:01:48.119 you know that may there hasn't one one more one 2746 02:01:48.239 --> 02:01:51.479 or two out at some. Point you, know that depends 2747 02:01:51.520 --> 02:01:54.359 on a lot of other factors as. Well but if 2748 02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:56.279 it all comes, together we might add one or two 2749 02:01:56.319 --> 02:01:58.479 more pieces this. Window are we looking in the? 2750 02:01:58.600 --> 02:02:00.600 Attack how are we looking on the back? Line it 2751 02:02:00.680 --> 02:02:03.319 feels like your midfield is your, strength but where are 2752 02:02:03.319 --> 02:02:03.920 we looking. 2753 02:02:03.720 --> 02:02:09.000 At that's a good. Question i'll probably keep, that keep 2754 02:02:09.039 --> 02:02:12.479 that to myself for, now but probably. Not we're not 2755 02:02:12.640 --> 02:02:15.359 we're likely to sign another. Striker three threes on us 2756 02:02:15.439 --> 02:02:16.680 in one. Window fair? 2757 02:02:16.800 --> 02:02:19.600 Enough speaking of your, midfield you know A. 2758 02:02:19.720 --> 02:02:22.920 MECCA i know he's not one hundred percent, yet but, 2759 02:02:23.119 --> 02:02:25.800 man it's just a reminder of what he is when he's. 2760 02:02:25.880 --> 02:02:28.279 Healthy now that he's been back playing you, know thirty 2761 02:02:28.319 --> 02:02:32.199 forty to fifty minutes or. Whatever But, ruiz it's such 2762 02:02:32.239 --> 02:02:34.520 a feel good. Story Against Club, america he may have 2763 02:02:34.520 --> 02:02:36.439 been the best player on the. Field then Oh hata 2764 02:02:36.560 --> 02:02:40.439 somehow has channeled his inner Like. Rinaldo he had one 2765 02:02:40.520 --> 02:02:42.479 goal in like eighty games and he has three in 2766 02:02:42.520 --> 02:02:46.760 the last. Three what sort of advantage does it give 2767 02:02:46.840 --> 02:02:49.960 you to have three preferred you, know central holding. Mids 2768 02:02:50.439 --> 02:02:53.079 you know in your formation you typically play two of the. 2769 02:02:53.159 --> 02:02:54.720 Three it feels like that's your. 2770 02:02:54.800 --> 02:02:55.640 Lynchpin. Kurt is that? 2771 02:02:55.760 --> 02:03:00.119 Fair it's definitely the strongest part of our, roster the 2772 02:03:00.159 --> 02:03:02.840 deepest part of our, roster and you, know, honestly it's 2773 02:03:02.920 --> 02:03:06.760 a massive headache For, poplow you, know And pablo's got 2774 02:03:06.880 --> 02:03:09.960 three you, know three or more, guys uh for two 2775 02:03:10.039 --> 02:03:14.079 spots that that all want to and and honestly are 2776 02:03:14.159 --> 02:03:18.720 capable of starting you, KNOW mls games for, him and you, 2777 02:03:18.800 --> 02:03:21.680 know it makes the competition. Tight you, know it's it's, 2778 02:03:21.760 --> 02:03:24.840 pushed you, know a guy Like Joel kulskin to write 2779 02:03:24.880 --> 02:03:27.920 back at. Times so you, know it's it's certainly a 2780 02:03:28.039 --> 02:03:30.880 headache and a problem for for the coaching staff Or. 2781 02:03:30.960 --> 02:03:34.359 Pablo but but those are the good problems that that 2782 02:03:34.479 --> 02:03:37.000 we like to try to give give our coaches is you, 2783 02:03:37.079 --> 02:03:39.760 know not not who we're going to play because nobody 2784 02:03:40.399 --> 02:03:42.159 is stepping, up but who we're going to play because 2785 02:03:42.159 --> 02:03:44.800 everyone's playing at their top level and and it makes 2786 02:03:44.840 --> 02:03:48.039 it difficult to pick the best. Too So pablo is 2787 02:03:48.199 --> 02:03:50.960 it's really really good to see where he's at right. 2788 02:03:51.039 --> 02:03:53.840 Now he's been he's been. Fantastic, obviously he's missed a 2789 02:03:53.880 --> 02:03:56.439 lot of time with, injury and it was very reasonable 2790 02:03:56.479 --> 02:03:59.399 to expect and to see the last few, months you, 2791 02:03:59.479 --> 02:04:02.960 know for him to get back into it and get 2792 02:04:03.079 --> 02:04:06.479 back closer to the level he was that when this 2793 02:04:06.640 --> 02:04:10.279 sort of injury uh situation started about roughly eighteen or 2794 02:04:10.359 --> 02:04:13.439 now it's like almost two years. Ago so to see 2795 02:04:13.560 --> 02:04:17.039 his play the last few games has been. Phenomenal you, 2796 02:04:17.119 --> 02:04:19.600 know his path, thing his, vision his ability to create 2797 02:04:19.680 --> 02:04:22.359 chances for, us and then even some things THAT i 2798 02:04:22.439 --> 02:04:25.079 don't think were his strength a couple of years, ago 2799 02:04:25.399 --> 02:04:29.239 he's now working on and improving to the point where 2800 02:04:29.319 --> 02:04:33.119 these are not, liabilities are things that concern us as, 2801 02:04:33.199 --> 02:04:35.600 much which is you, know some of his, defensing his work, 2802 02:04:35.680 --> 02:04:38.640 rate defending his work, rate his ability closed on, space 2803 02:04:38.680 --> 02:04:41.079 his ability tracking, back his wills to do things like. 2804 02:04:41.159 --> 02:04:44.199 That that's been. Phenomenal and then you, know it's really 2805 02:04:44.239 --> 02:04:46.640 hard to elaborate too much on. OHEIA i, mean, obviously 2806 02:04:47.680 --> 02:04:50.159 when a player like that is scoring goals for, you 2807 02:04:50.319 --> 02:04:53.199 then you'll take. It and you, know he can't can't 2808 02:04:53.239 --> 02:04:55.600 do can't do much more than that other than recover 2809 02:04:55.720 --> 02:04:57.199 the ball as much as he, does cover as much 2810 02:04:57.239 --> 02:04:58.680 ground as he, does and then also put the ball 2811 02:04:58.720 --> 02:04:59.159 in the back of the. 2812 02:04:59.239 --> 02:05:03.640 Net SO i find the art and honestly science of 2813 02:05:03.840 --> 02:05:07.880 talent evaluation and sport. FASCINATING i always have on a scouting, 2814 02:05:08.000 --> 02:05:12.600 level and you, know nobody bats a. Thousand everybody has. 2815 02:05:12.720 --> 02:05:15.039 Misses everybody has a lot of. Misses you just hope 2816 02:05:15.079 --> 02:05:17.920 that you can intertwine some of those misses with some 2817 02:05:18.000 --> 02:05:20.840 big home runs and some good. Hits it didn't work 2818 02:05:20.880 --> 02:05:23.920 out With, lachlan and you, Know i'll let you kind 2819 02:05:23.960 --> 02:05:26.680 of elaborate as to why you think that is and 2820 02:05:26.800 --> 02:05:31.199 also intertwined in your. Question i'm wondering what your personal 2821 02:05:31.479 --> 02:05:34.720 approach is when it comes to analyzing and whether or 2822 02:05:34.760 --> 02:05:37.119 not this is even possible when it comes to analyzing 2823 02:05:37.279 --> 02:05:39.560 if a young man is ready to be a, Professional 2824 02:05:40.319 --> 02:05:43.800 because when it comes to being a, pro all these 2825 02:05:43.840 --> 02:05:47.359 guys have. Talent every professional athlete has. Talent they're used 2826 02:05:47.359 --> 02:05:50.840 to dominating younger. Leagues they were dominant in high, school 2827 02:05:50.840 --> 02:05:53.439 they were dominant in, college they were dominant in. Juniors 2828 02:05:53.960 --> 02:05:55.600 if you want to play in the, pros if you 2829 02:05:55.640 --> 02:05:58.159 want to play in the highest, level talent's not. 2830 02:05:58.359 --> 02:05:59.359 Enough you've got to be a. 2831 02:05:59.439 --> 02:06:02.279 Professional when it comes to the way you analyze these, 2832 02:06:02.359 --> 02:06:04.840 things how can you be sure that you're signing somebody 2833 02:06:04.880 --> 02:06:06.239 that's ready to do what they have to do for 2834 02:06:06.319 --> 02:06:08.039 you every, day not just game. 2835 02:06:08.159 --> 02:06:12.079 Day, WELL i, mean FIRST i would say you're never, sure, 2836 02:06:12.319 --> 02:06:14.359 right and you, know you're trying to analyze all these 2837 02:06:14.399 --> 02:06:16.960 things from afar and until they are here in your, 2838 02:06:17.079 --> 02:06:20.880 group in your, team you, know in your, city you 2839 02:06:21.239 --> 02:06:23.079 don't know them as well as you do when that. 2840 02:06:23.239 --> 02:06:27.359 Happens so we do a lot of work obviously evaluating, 2841 02:06:27.439 --> 02:06:30.760 talent like you, said and watching the player play. Games 2842 02:06:30.880 --> 02:06:33.479 we have multiple people, Watch we do, rankings we watch, 2843 02:06:33.560 --> 02:06:36.800 clips we watch full. Games you, know we ask people 2844 02:06:36.920 --> 02:06:39.319 that we know who know the player or who've seen 2845 02:06:39.359 --> 02:06:42.159 the player what they think can get outside feedback on 2846 02:06:42.239 --> 02:06:44.119 all those. Things but then we do the same thing 2847 02:06:44.199 --> 02:06:46.840 and you, know when it comes to the character mentality 2848 02:06:46.960 --> 02:06:48.600 side of the, game you, know we do a lot 2849 02:06:48.640 --> 02:06:53.000 of reference checks of hopefully we find people that play with, 2850 02:06:53.199 --> 02:06:55.600 him people that he played, for coaches he played, for 2851 02:06:56.520 --> 02:06:59.279 people that you, know just at familiar with those marketplaces 2852 02:06:59.399 --> 02:07:02.960 and and just know a lot about the players in that. 2853 02:07:03.079 --> 02:07:06.000 Marketplace and you, know we try to find, out you, know, 2854 02:07:06.079 --> 02:07:07.840 hey what kind of person is, this what kind of 2855 02:07:07.920 --> 02:07:10.399 kid is? This and it's and it's never black and, 2856 02:07:10.479 --> 02:07:13.800 white right because these are all young, men and you, 2857 02:07:13.880 --> 02:07:17.800 know sometimes young men are you, know great, citizens and 2858 02:07:17.880 --> 02:07:21.119 sometimes young men do things that are you, know not 2859 02:07:21.279 --> 02:07:23.840 ideal or make, mistakes and as we all have when we're, 2860 02:07:23.880 --> 02:07:26.119 young and so you, know you've got to parse things 2861 02:07:26.199 --> 02:07:30.520 and we through what's, important what's not? Important what what 2862 02:07:30.640 --> 02:07:34.800 it's a deal breaker for us, essentially and what what 2863 02:07:35.279 --> 02:07:37.960 what things can we work on with the player or 2864 02:07:38.000 --> 02:07:40.479 the things that we can help him, overcome or the 2865 02:07:40.560 --> 02:07:43.840 things that will change if he comes here versus where he's. 2866 02:07:43.880 --> 02:07:47.279 At you, know is you, know maybe he's a leader 2867 02:07:47.359 --> 02:07:49.479 in his locker room, There well is that going to translate? 2868 02:07:49.560 --> 02:07:51.239 Here you, know when he's a new player in a new, 2869 02:07:51.399 --> 02:07:53.239 country you, know is he going to be a leader 2870 02:07:53.279 --> 02:07:55.079 in the locker room? HERE i don't. Know you, know 2871 02:07:55.199 --> 02:07:57.600 those are things that we have to work on and find. 2872 02:07:57.640 --> 02:08:00.680 Out and you, know, again until they're, here it's you, 2873 02:08:00.760 --> 02:08:03.640 know you can never fully answer all of those. Questions 2874 02:08:03.720 --> 02:08:07.039 but we do go through a lot of exhaustive light 2875 02:08:07.159 --> 02:08:08.760 work to to find out as much as we can 2876 02:08:08.840 --> 02:08:10.560 about these these players before we bring them. 2877 02:08:10.600 --> 02:08:12.239 Here why do you think it didn't work out With? 2878 02:08:12.319 --> 02:08:18.279 Lachlin good, question you, Know and and sometimes timing is 2879 02:08:19.399 --> 02:08:21.880 is a big. Factor you, KNOW i Think lachlan someone 2880 02:08:21.960 --> 02:08:24.039 who's come in and a lot of a lot of 2881 02:08:24.640 --> 02:08:27.399 success IN i guess in sports in, general but certainly 2882 02:08:27.399 --> 02:08:31.680 in this. Game is is about being, ready being prepared 2883 02:08:31.760 --> 02:08:35.479 to seize your, opportunity you, know and to to go 2884 02:08:35.600 --> 02:08:37.760 to someone else for a, second like you, know vocalist 2885 02:08:37.840 --> 02:08:41.199 and AND i spoke in pre season about you, know 2886 02:08:41.319 --> 02:08:43.359 his pathway and his future and what that looks. Like 2887 02:08:44.000 --> 02:08:46.399 and and you, know the net net of the conversation 2888 02:08:46.479 --> 02:08:48.680 without you, know going too far into it is and 2889 02:08:49.000 --> 02:08:51.760 like you can play at this, level be, ready it's. 2890 02:08:51.800 --> 02:08:54.319 Coming when you get, it don't let it go. Right 2891 02:08:54.399 --> 02:08:57.319 and that's obviously something that he's. Done and you, KNOW i, 2892 02:08:57.439 --> 02:09:00.359 think you, know Certainly lockey had opportunities with us as. 2893 02:09:00.399 --> 02:09:05.720 Well AND i don't, think you, know through any deficiency 2894 02:09:06.479 --> 02:09:08.760 or FAULT i guess of his. Own but in the 2895 02:09:08.840 --> 02:09:11.000 games where he, was you, know he had the opportunities 2896 02:09:11.039 --> 02:09:15.119 to grab the. Game it wasn't that he, uh you, 2897 02:09:15.199 --> 02:09:17.960 know played extremely. Poorly it was just he didn't grab. 2898 02:09:18.039 --> 02:09:21.159 It he didn't take the. Opportunity and and that was. 2899 02:09:21.199 --> 02:09:25.000 Difficult and sometimes some some, players for various, reasons may 2900 02:09:25.000 --> 02:09:27.119 get a few more, opportunities some players make it a few. 2901 02:09:27.239 --> 02:09:30.279 Less sometimes it's you, know your, attitude your, personality your. 2902 02:09:30.359 --> 02:09:32.960 Characters sometimes with how you're, training it's your work. Rate 2903 02:09:33.079 --> 02:09:35.359 there's a lot of factors that go into how many 2904 02:09:35.399 --> 02:09:38.199 opportunities are you going to? Get but the reality, is 2905 02:09:38.239 --> 02:09:40.039 if you're a good enough player at this, level you 2906 02:09:40.079 --> 02:09:42.239 are going to get an opportunity and are you going 2907 02:09:42.279 --> 02:09:44.840 to be prepared to take? It and you, know whether 2908 02:09:44.920 --> 02:09:46.560 he was prepared to take it or. Not you, KNOW 2909 02:09:46.600 --> 02:09:48.680 i don't know if he prepared, himself BUT i know 2910 02:09:48.840 --> 02:09:51.680 that when he did have those, opportunities it's unfortunate BECAUSE 2911 02:09:51.680 --> 02:09:53.000 i think he has a lot of, talent he's a good, 2912 02:09:53.039 --> 02:09:55.319 player he's a good. Kid but, yeah he didn't he 2913 02:09:55.319 --> 02:09:58.439 didn't grab it on the. Field and a number of 2914 02:09:58.520 --> 02:10:00.720 factors came together in the summer window to make this 2915 02:10:00.840 --> 02:10:02.479 the right move for him and the right move for. Us, 2916 02:10:02.560 --> 02:10:05.800 obviously it frees up a roster, spot in international spots 2917 02:10:05.840 --> 02:10:09.079 and cap. Space all those things were advantageous on our. 2918 02:10:09.159 --> 02:10:12.000 Side and you, know he he gets a clean start 2919 02:10:12.159 --> 02:10:13.960 and a first started at a new club and he's 2920 02:10:14.000 --> 02:10:15.840 able to work his way up. 2921 02:10:15.880 --> 02:10:19.760 There there are very few players IN, mls if, any 2922 02:10:20.039 --> 02:10:22.600 that have had the calendar year The diego has The 2923 02:10:22.680 --> 02:10:26.840 Diego luna, has he has The Gold cup experience where 2924 02:10:26.920 --> 02:10:29.880 his star just shot through the. Roof he has The 2925 02:10:29.920 --> 02:10:32.560 Skills Challenge All star, experience and then he has the 2926 02:10:33.239 --> 02:10:36.079 task of carrying a heavy load for you guys because 2927 02:10:36.079 --> 02:10:39.279 he's that. Good what do you see? Lately is it 2928 02:10:39.359 --> 02:10:41.600 a little bit of? Fatigue is he pressing too? Hard 2929 02:10:41.880 --> 02:10:43.720 is this a young man learning to be a? STAR 2930 02:10:43.880 --> 02:10:46.479 i Remember Donovan mitchell went through, This he went through 2931 02:10:46.479 --> 02:10:48.600 a real downtime AND i talked to his, Coach Quinn, 2932 02:10:48.600 --> 02:10:50.880 snyder and he, said he's learning to be a. STAR 2933 02:10:51.680 --> 02:10:54.880 i don't think anybody saw The Donovan mitchell evolution when it, 2934 02:10:54.960 --> 02:10:57.039 happened And i'm not sure how many people Saw diego 2935 02:10:57.119 --> 02:10:59.319 star shooting through the roof the way it. Has is 2936 02:10:59.880 --> 02:11:02.880 its a young player just learning to carry a very 2937 02:11:03.000 --> 02:11:04.640 very heavy load both on and off the. 2938 02:11:04.720 --> 02:11:08.840 Field, yeah you did a great job of answering that. 2939 02:11:08.960 --> 02:11:12.720 Question and it's all of the, above your spot, on you, 2940 02:11:12.800 --> 02:11:14.720 know and it's you, KNOW i guess it's what you 2941 02:11:14.880 --> 02:11:16.159 what do You what are you saying when you say 2942 02:11:16.239 --> 02:11:18.479 learning to be a? Star AND i think it's just you, know, 2943 02:11:18.640 --> 02:11:21.399 obviously you, know you get to where you are by 2944 02:11:21.479 --> 02:11:24.159 doing what you've. Done and so sometimes when people get 2945 02:11:24.199 --> 02:11:25.960 to a certain, point it's, like Well i've got to you, 2946 02:11:26.039 --> 02:11:27.520 know it's it's on me. NOW i got to do 2947 02:11:27.560 --> 02:11:30.159 a little. More and sometimes that pushes you to try 2948 02:11:30.239 --> 02:11:32.640 things a little bit, differently and it's you, know just 2949 02:11:32.720 --> 02:11:35.640 about realizing, like, hey just just do my. Thing my 2950 02:11:35.720 --> 02:11:37.560 thing got me, here my thing will be. Fine AND 2951 02:11:37.880 --> 02:11:40.479 i Think diego when he's come, back HE'S i, mean 2952 02:11:40.520 --> 02:11:42.399 he's putting a ton of, work he has a ton 2953 02:11:42.479 --> 02:11:45.319 of miles on his. Legs fatigue is certainly playing into, 2954 02:11:45.399 --> 02:11:48.680 it you, know, learning learning how to kind of even 2955 02:11:48.840 --> 02:11:51.000 off the, field you, know deal with some of the. 2956 02:11:51.039 --> 02:11:53.600 Stuff And diego is a really like well grounded, kid 2957 02:11:53.720 --> 02:11:56.720 down to earth. Kid and you, Know i've never seen 2958 02:11:56.800 --> 02:11:59.760 a person as young as he is deal with the 2959 02:12:00.079 --> 02:12:03.560 tension he's getting in such a, good, positive you, know 2960 02:12:03.680 --> 02:12:08.600 seemingly healthy. Way so like all that is, great but you, 2961 02:12:08.680 --> 02:12:13.000 know like that that type of the year he's having 2962 02:12:13.079 --> 02:12:15.560 would obviously affect the best of us and in some, 2963 02:12:15.760 --> 02:12:18.720 way and so obviously he's. Not he's, not you, know 2964 02:12:18.920 --> 02:12:21.520 not that it's that better or, worse but he's certainly 2965 02:12:21.600 --> 02:12:24.960 not in the same headspace and and expectations for himself 2966 02:12:25.079 --> 02:12:28.199 and pressure on himself now as he, was you know 2967 02:12:28.319 --> 02:12:30.680 In march or In february when when he got to 2968 02:12:30.840 --> 02:12:33.199 us from from nationally, camp, right and so all that's, 2969 02:12:33.319 --> 02:12:36.079 changed and so that requires some adaptation on his part 2970 02:12:36.159 --> 02:12:38.399 on our. Part and it's you, know it's just about 2971 02:12:38.479 --> 02:12:41.159 learning and growing together and figuring, Out, okay how do 2972 02:12:41.239 --> 02:12:44.439 we how do we maximize you, know what's going on with, you, 2973 02:12:44.640 --> 02:12:46.760 Diego how do we how do we harness what you've 2974 02:12:46.800 --> 02:12:48.680 gotten the best way? Possible how do, we you, know 2975 02:12:48.840 --> 02:12:51.359 add some players around you to help maybe make your 2976 02:12:51.439 --> 02:12:54.199 job a little bit, easier take some load off of, 2977 02:12:54.319 --> 02:12:56.960 you so that you, know you can be more impactful 2978 02:12:57.039 --> 02:12:59.000 in fewer moments rather than having to try to do 2979 02:12:59.119 --> 02:13:02.359 something in the. Moment so that's that's really the process 2980 02:13:02.479 --> 02:13:03.199 that we're going through right. 2981 02:13:03.239 --> 02:13:06.279 Now how much of his skill, set if at, all 2982 02:13:06.720 --> 02:13:10.159 colored your context and decision making when you were scouting 2983 02:13:10.199 --> 02:13:12.560 and cruise and all the tune gi you, Know AND 2984 02:13:12.640 --> 02:13:15.680 i talked To pablo about this this. Week i've always 2985 02:13:15.680 --> 02:13:17.880 been a just give me the, talent give me the, 2986 02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:19.840 talent will figure it. Out i've always been a gimme 2987 02:13:19.920 --> 02:13:23.439 the talent. Guy but, also you, know certainly this is 2988 02:13:23.479 --> 02:13:25.359 the case in other. Sports i'm not sure how pertinent 2989 02:13:25.359 --> 02:13:27.840 it is in. Soccer it's a much different. Game when 2990 02:13:27.880 --> 02:13:30.159 you have a player as brad As. Diego do you 2991 02:13:30.399 --> 02:13:33.720 analyze what he does well when you're scouting these other 2992 02:13:33.800 --> 02:13:36.039 players to make sure they fit his skill? Set or 2993 02:13:36.119 --> 02:13:38.000 is it just like these guys are, awesome let's figure it. 2994 02:13:38.039 --> 02:13:43.319 Out, no not not the second. Thing i've Been i've 2995 02:13:43.399 --> 02:13:45.479 been a place or two where it's the second thing 2996 02:13:45.600 --> 02:13:47.840 of just let's get talent in the door and figure it. 2997 02:13:47.880 --> 02:13:51.159 Out and you, KNOW i think you you that works 2998 02:13:51.199 --> 02:13:55.119 out when you get, really really, lucky you, know and 2999 02:13:55.760 --> 02:13:58.840 it's it's, tough but it's certainly not something that's repeatable or. 3000 02:13:58.920 --> 02:14:01.520 Systematic so you, know when we were signing these two, 3001 02:14:01.560 --> 02:14:04.439 players we absolutely kept a close eye on what we 3002 02:14:04.600 --> 02:14:07.560 thought diego strengths, Were what were things that we could 3003 02:14:07.600 --> 02:14:10.520 compliment him, with and what were things that would enhance 3004 02:14:10.640 --> 02:14:12.960 his skill. Set and you, know LIKE i described the 3005 02:14:13.319 --> 02:14:15.680 two guys to you, earlier, right we you, know he's 3006 02:14:15.720 --> 02:14:17.920 a guy that likes top right in the space. Underneath 3007 02:14:17.960 --> 02:14:20.239 so we found someone or wanted to find someone that 3008 02:14:20.319 --> 02:14:22.560 could play on the iceland that could. Stretch you, know 3009 02:14:22.600 --> 02:14:25.159 If diego were a player that loved to run in 3010 02:14:25.199 --> 02:14:27.680 behind from deeper positions and you, know be the guy 3011 02:14:27.680 --> 02:14:30.159 who runs to the near, post then we probably sign 3012 02:14:30.239 --> 02:14:34.439 a different, player, right who maybe does different things than. That. 3013 02:14:34.680 --> 02:14:36.479 Right but so the compliment to What diego does is 3014 02:14:36.520 --> 02:14:38.840 someone who does, stretch who does running, behind and then 3015 02:14:38.960 --> 02:14:42.239 bringing in someone Like 'uan who he can combine, with, 3016 02:14:42.479 --> 02:14:44.960 right and so he's not trying to dribble three four 3017 02:14:45.039 --> 02:14:47.840 players in the middle of the. Defense but he's now 3018 02:14:47.920 --> 02:14:49.920 someone where Maybe diego can beat one or two players 3019 02:14:49.960 --> 02:14:51.880 off the, dribble but then combine and play at one 3020 02:14:51.920 --> 02:14:54.760 two to get around another one and use him as 3021 02:14:54.800 --> 02:14:56.600 a decoy at times or use him as an option 3022 02:14:56.720 --> 02:14:59.319 at times to feed and e can. Scoble so, YEAH 3023 02:14:59.319 --> 02:15:02.319 i mean when you talk about do we look at 3024 02:15:02.800 --> 02:15:06.000 what would Compliment? Diego absolutely, right and as well as 3025 02:15:06.000 --> 02:15:07.039 the rest of the. TEAM i don't want to just 3026 02:15:07.039 --> 02:15:09.439 focus On diego there and put too much on. Him 3027 02:15:09.720 --> 02:15:11.640 we focus on what we have and how do we compliment, 3028 02:15:11.720 --> 02:15:12.600 that and that's critical to. 3029 02:15:12.720 --> 02:15:17.239 Us last, week you, Know i've asked you About Rafa 3030 02:15:17.439 --> 02:15:21.039 cabral pretty much. Weekly and you, know you alluded to 3031 02:15:21.119 --> 02:15:24.880 something a little bit earlier like sometimes your best laid plans, 3032 02:15:24.920 --> 02:15:27.159 aside you need a little. Luck And i'm not saying 3033 02:15:27.159 --> 02:15:29.960 you got lucky, here but he has just been as 3034 02:15:30.039 --> 02:15:32.920 bright as any spot on your roster in my, opinion 3035 02:15:33.000 --> 02:15:34.720 and you can make a case that keeper is the 3036 02:15:34.760 --> 02:15:38.520 most important position in. Soccer and watching him last week 3037 02:15:38.520 --> 02:15:41.039 Against Club, america in those, pks there's a Little Nikki 3038 02:15:41.119 --> 02:15:42.960 romando feel with the way he stepped. 3039 02:15:43.000 --> 02:15:43.960 Up it didn't work out. 3040 02:15:43.800 --> 02:15:46.880 Against San Luis San, luis but what can you say 3041 02:15:47.079 --> 02:15:50.119 about what that addition has meant to your club this? 3042 02:15:50.279 --> 02:15:57.239 Year i'm honestly can't say. Enough it wasn't luck getting 3043 02:15:57.359 --> 02:16:01.000 someone with his, character his, mentality, leadership those were all 3044 02:16:01.119 --> 02:16:05.399 things that we we you, know dug into in the 3045 02:16:05.760 --> 02:16:09.279 in the sort of recruitment process and and came back 3046 02:16:09.319 --> 02:16:11.680 with flying, colors like there were no question, marks no 3047 02:16:11.840 --> 02:16:15.119 doubts about his, character his, mentality his, leadership what he 3048 02:16:15.159 --> 02:16:17.239 could add to our team in our locker. Room and 3049 02:16:17.399 --> 02:16:20.279 so from that, standpoint you, know he's he's been as 3050 02:16:20.359 --> 02:16:23.039 advertised and it's been. Great, obviously the you, know the 3051 02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:24.800 part that was a little bit less certain was just 3052 02:16:25.359 --> 02:16:27.760 Coming he's coming off the season where he hasn't played 3053 02:16:27.760 --> 02:16:31.600 with any, games and you, know he's he's getting a little, 3054 02:16:31.600 --> 02:16:33.440 older which you, know for a lot of players is an, 3055 02:16:33.479 --> 02:16:36.559 issue but for goalkeepers it's it's much much less of an. 3056 02:16:36.600 --> 02:16:39.639 Issue you can get goalkeepers, playing you, know into thirty thirty, 3057 02:16:39.719 --> 02:16:42.239 nine forty forty. One you, know the goalkeepers can play 3058 02:16:42.319 --> 02:16:45.479 for a long time in that, position especially as they 3059 02:16:45.959 --> 02:16:48.360 as they get. Older they understand, positioning they're good with their, 3060 02:16:48.399 --> 02:16:51.479 feet they can, organize and those are all things that 3061 02:16:51.559 --> 02:16:54.399 are strengths of his. Obviously so, YEAH i, mean but 3062 02:16:54.639 --> 02:16:58.319 he also ticked a lot of boxes for. Adaptation he Spoke, 3063 02:16:58.399 --> 02:17:01.920 english he played abroad into AND i think two different 3064 02:17:01.920 --> 02:17:05.319 countries before going back To brazil and coming. Here you, 3065 02:17:05.360 --> 02:17:07.000 know so he ticked a lot of boxes that made 3066 02:17:07.000 --> 02:17:09.479 you think, Like, okay this is a guy that a you, 3067 02:17:09.559 --> 02:17:12.000 know has has shown he can adapt after his own 3068 02:17:12.000 --> 02:17:14.760 country speaks the language, here he'd probably adapt well, here 3069 02:17:15.639 --> 02:17:17.559 B i, think you, know and this is what we 3070 02:17:17.840 --> 02:17:21.440 love to see from guys is his desire to come 3071 02:17:21.719 --> 02:17:24.079 to come. Here you, know he really wanted to come, 3072 02:17:24.120 --> 02:17:27.040 here and that's something that isn't isn't lost on us, 3073 02:17:27.079 --> 02:17:29.879 either because those, players those, players when they get, here 3074 02:17:29.920 --> 02:17:32.959 they're the, committed they're the most. Committed they integrate the 3075 02:17:33.000 --> 02:17:35.479 best into the, team the, club of the, community and 3076 02:17:35.600 --> 02:17:37.040 those are the types of guys that we love to. 3077 02:17:37.120 --> 02:17:39.479 Have last, Thing, Colon i'll set you loose on. 3078 02:17:39.559 --> 02:17:42.479 This it got late early for you guys with a rough, 3079 02:17:42.559 --> 02:17:45.120 start but you're unbeaten in eight of your last nine 3080 02:17:45.840 --> 02:17:47.959 and you went from thirteenth to eight in The west 3081 02:17:48.000 --> 02:17:48.399 since Mid. 3082 02:17:48.520 --> 02:17:51.600 June why the? Turnaround what do you attributed to? 3083 02:17:51.799 --> 02:17:56.959 MOST i, mean, look we are THE i think the 3084 02:17:57.120 --> 02:18:00.280 third or fourth youngest team in terms of of you, 3085 02:18:00.360 --> 02:18:03.399 know playing, time, minutes way at average age in in the. 3086 02:18:03.479 --> 02:18:08.319 League and the answer sometimes this question is is really, obvious, 3087 02:18:08.399 --> 02:18:11.319 Right so what a young players. Do they develop and 3088 02:18:11.399 --> 02:18:13.479 they get better as long as they're given minutes and 3089 02:18:13.520 --> 02:18:15.760 they're given proper. Coaching and that's you, know what ourgans. 3090 02:18:15.760 --> 02:18:18.200 Done so you, know a lot of our group has gotten, 3091 02:18:18.280 --> 02:18:21.639 better right and and they've, developed and so that's helped results. 3092 02:18:21.680 --> 02:18:25.280 ALONG i think, learning you, know the coaches figuring out 3093 02:18:25.319 --> 02:18:27.200 a little bit of tweaking the tactical structure a little 3094 02:18:27.200 --> 02:18:29.399 bit at times has been has been helpful as, well 3095 02:18:29.520 --> 02:18:32.399 right Adding gozo in a few. Games there is that 3096 02:18:32.600 --> 02:18:34.440 is that second striker option as well as a wide. 3097 02:18:34.479 --> 02:18:37.920 Option you, know having that flexibility in, him that's something 3098 02:18:38.120 --> 02:18:40.840 that has helped the team and the team structure a 3099 02:18:40.920 --> 02:18:43.479 lot as. Well so figuring some of those things out 3100 02:18:43.559 --> 02:18:46.600 on the fly and then honestly as some of it 3101 02:18:46.840 --> 02:18:48.479 is you, know and not to go back to, this 3102 02:18:48.600 --> 02:18:50.559 but something is a little bit of luck because you, 3103 02:18:50.639 --> 02:18:52.520 know we had games i think early in the season 3104 02:18:52.600 --> 02:18:54.959 where our performance and if you look at someone like 3105 02:18:55.040 --> 02:18:59.600 the underlying more advanced statistical, metrics you know our performance was. 3106 02:18:59.600 --> 02:19:01.280 Good we should have won this game or drawn this, 3107 02:19:01.360 --> 02:19:03.280 game or we shouldn't have lost this, game and we 3108 02:19:03.360 --> 02:19:05.159 did lose the. Game then you, know you get to 3109 02:19:05.239 --> 02:19:07.920 some of these games later and that that has switched 3110 02:19:07.920 --> 02:19:10.079 a little. Bit and so that's something whereas you play 3111 02:19:10.559 --> 02:19:12.399 more games and you have a bigger sample, size as 3112 02:19:12.440 --> 02:19:14.200 long as you keep playing at a good, level you 3113 02:19:14.280 --> 02:19:16.600 know you're you're going to do what those things usually 3114 02:19:16.680 --> 02:19:19.600 say you should. Do AND i think that's that's where 3115 02:19:19.639 --> 02:19:21.760 things have gotten as. Well and we're continuing to play 3116 02:19:21.760 --> 02:19:23.840 at a high level and the team has now more 3117 02:19:23.920 --> 02:19:27.159 confidence and more, belief which you know is a virtuous. 3118 02:19:27.200 --> 02:19:30.360 Cycle, now, well it's been fun to watch the. Turnaround 3119 02:19:30.479 --> 02:19:33.040 congrats on. That congrats on getting these players across the. 3120 02:19:33.120 --> 02:19:35.440 Line good luck to, Night, kurt AND i appreciate the. Time, okay, 3121 02:19:36.440 --> 02:19:37.040 YEAH i appreciate. 3122 02:19:37.079 --> 02:19:38.280 It, svence thanks all, Right Kurch. 3123 02:19:38.200 --> 02:19:41.239 Schmid our solid action tonight In League's cup. 3124 02:19:41.479 --> 02:19:45.360 Play they're back in action IN Mls cup play Against 3125 02:19:45.399 --> 02:19:48.879 New york coming up On. Sunday we hit one hundred degrees, 3126 02:19:48.959 --> 02:19:52.840 today according to our Guy, chase the eight one hundredth 3127 02:19:52.959 --> 02:19:57.559 degree day In utah this, summer so it is still 3128 02:19:57.639 --> 02:19:59.719 very much, summer even though fall is right around the 3129 02:19:59.760 --> 02:20:04.000 corner here in Early, august R i slid action Tonight 3130 02:20:04.120 --> 02:20:08.440 Leagues cup play seven thirty On Apple. Television are you 3131 02:20:08.559 --> 02:20:10.639 Into Hard? Knocks have you ever been in A Hard? 3132 02:20:10.719 --> 02:20:12.159 Knocks is this a program you watch? 3133 02:20:13.680 --> 02:20:20.079 Historically kind? Of i've definitely was a pretty regular watcher 3134 02:20:20.200 --> 02:20:24.760 back in the, Day BUT i don't know if it's 3135 02:20:24.879 --> 02:20:29.879 the the difficulty in like streaming everything and knowing when 3136 02:20:29.959 --> 02:20:33.920 stuff is dropping and having all the different Platforms I've 3137 02:20:34.360 --> 02:20:39.680 i've fallen, off like my entirety of the watching. Schedule 3138 02:20:39.799 --> 02:20:44.520 so DO i Watch Hard, Knocks, yes. WILL i probably 3139 02:20:44.600 --> 02:20:49.760 watched those new episodes the week before football, season probably 3140 02:20:50.239 --> 02:20:52.079 probably more the Way i'll consume. 3141 02:20:52.120 --> 02:20:55.879 It it is really well. DONE i like, you like 3142 02:20:56.040 --> 02:20:58.399 it was revolutionary when they first came. 3143 02:20:58.440 --> 02:20:59.239 Out it's, like this is. 3144 02:20:59.399 --> 02:21:02.280 Awesome SO i probably watched the first five or six 3145 02:21:02.360 --> 02:21:05.959 seasons and like weighted with baited breath for every episode 3146 02:21:06.000 --> 02:21:08.760 to come. Out you make a good, point, though BECAUSE 3147 02:21:09.239 --> 02:21:11.120 i don't, know, MAN i just feel like there are 3148 02:21:11.159 --> 02:21:14.840 so many, Options we're so. Inundated i'll get a recommendation, like, 3149 02:21:14.920 --> 02:21:16.680 hey you gotta watch Mob land and now you got 3150 02:21:16.799 --> 02:21:18.520 to finish this, show and you got to check out 3151 02:21:18.600 --> 02:21:20.799 this On Paramount, plus and it's, like, Okay i'll sign 3152 02:21:20.879 --> 02:21:22.520 up for that and then cancel it later because it 3153 02:21:22.559 --> 02:21:25.479 has nothing ELSE i want on. IT i did not 3154 02:21:25.600 --> 02:21:30.639 watch episode, one but The Buffalo bills are the feature 3155 02:21:30.799 --> 02:21:34.680 team On Hard knocks this. Year it dropped last. Night 3156 02:21:35.040 --> 02:21:37.799 a Little Dalton kincaid, action Little Cold bishop. 3157 02:21:37.840 --> 02:21:39.399 Action we got a little local flavor on The. 3158 02:21:39.479 --> 02:21:42.680 Bills that's that's what will probably get me to uh 3159 02:21:43.319 --> 02:21:45.760 to tune in is is having some local, players and 3160 02:21:46.200 --> 02:21:48.879 quite a few of them on That bill's. Roster that's 3161 02:21:48.959 --> 02:21:53.879 a that's an organization that that likes. TO i likes, 3162 02:21:53.959 --> 02:21:55.559 to you, know fill it out when it comes to 3163 02:21:55.680 --> 02:21:57.440 To utah guys and not Just youtuh guys when we 3164 02:21:57.479 --> 02:22:01.479 were state. Folks there's a there's quite a local flare 3165 02:22:01.520 --> 02:22:02.799 on this this year's Hard. 3166 02:22:02.840 --> 02:22:05.239 KNOCK i am going to make an attempt to Finish 3167 02:22:05.319 --> 02:22:06.239 Happy gilmore too. 3168 02:22:06.360 --> 02:22:09.079 Tonight. NICE i cannot guarantee THAT i will do. 3169 02:22:09.159 --> 02:22:12.360 It AND i was excited for the, cameos but there 3170 02:22:12.440 --> 02:22:15.319 was this awkward Like Xander schoffle scene where he was 3171 02:22:15.360 --> 02:22:17.520 making like that's what she said jokes and it wasn't, 3172 02:22:17.559 --> 02:22:21.000 funny and then Like Ricky fowler was giving him some 3173 02:22:21.120 --> 02:22:23.719 flak and, LIKE i don't, know, MAN i THINK i 3174 02:22:23.760 --> 02:22:24.879 made it about twenty thirty. 3175 02:22:24.920 --> 02:22:28.479 MINUTES i fell, asleep so like, YOU i have to, 3176 02:22:28.559 --> 02:22:30.680 ADMIT i have to finish it in order to give, 3177 02:22:30.719 --> 02:22:34.399 you like a full. Critique but, yeah it felt like 3178 02:22:35.399 --> 02:22:39.680 again a guy trying to get his friends on a 3179 02:22:39.760 --> 02:22:44.719 movie a movie. Screen and also the cameos just felt 3180 02:22:44.799 --> 02:22:48.159 like cameos for the purpose of a. Cameo give me 3181 02:22:48.239 --> 02:22:50.559 a cameo with like a guy who can act and 3182 02:22:51.479 --> 02:22:55.040 plays a funny. Role and like knocks The cameo out 3183 02:22:55.079 --> 02:22:57.680 of the. Park Dan patrick does a good job on 3184 02:22:57.719 --> 02:23:01.159 all these and he doesn't go too far right when 3185 02:23:01.239 --> 02:23:02.680 you try to do it too, much it just it 3186 02:23:02.879 --> 02:23:07.120 just becomes basically like a bunch of famous guys hanging 3187 02:23:07.159 --> 02:23:09.799 out with a. Camera and that seems what it, like 3188 02:23:09.879 --> 02:23:10.079 what it. 3189 02:23:10.239 --> 02:23:13.280 WAS i will say, This Adam sandler is a good. 3190 02:23:13.360 --> 02:23:17.479 FRIEND i would do A sandler, like give me a day, 3191 02:23:17.559 --> 02:23:20.120 rate pay me five, Grand i'll fly somewhere and be 3192 02:23:20.239 --> 02:23:20.760 in your dopey. 3193 02:23:20.840 --> 02:23:22.319 Movie Adam sandler takes care of his. 3194 02:23:22.399 --> 02:23:26.120 Buddies let me be, clear IF i were like, FAMOUS 3195 02:23:26.520 --> 02:23:29.719 i would be walking around in basketball shorts and silly 3196 02:23:29.799 --> 02:23:32.200 shirts and putting all my friends in. MOVIES i would 3197 02:23:32.239 --> 02:23:34.719 be doing a lot of What Adam sandler is, doing 3198 02:23:34.799 --> 02:23:38.479 playing like pickup basketball on random courts outside In New 3199 02:23:38.600 --> 02:23:42.520 york and la. Like he is living a similar life 3200 02:23:42.559 --> 02:23:44.600 to WHAT i probably would be doing IF i had unlimited. 3201 02:23:44.639 --> 02:23:47.959 Money but that doesn't save him from critiques of his. 3202 02:23:48.120 --> 02:23:51.079 Films in, fairness neither you OR i are very, famous 3203 02:23:51.120 --> 02:23:53.639 and we wear basketball shorts and shirts to work every. 3204 02:23:53.719 --> 02:23:57.079 Day, yeah, yeah you're, right all, RIGHT i GUESS I 3205 02:23:57.479 --> 02:24:01.280 i already have a similar quardrobe to to Mister, Sandler. 3206 02:24:01.040 --> 02:24:02.799 So i'm gonna give it a. Whirl we'll try to finish. 3207 02:24:02.879 --> 02:24:05.520 It most Likely i'll finish The Billy joel documentary, tonight 3208 02:24:05.639 --> 02:24:07.719 but order before we get out of. 3209 02:24:07.719 --> 02:24:09.879 Here what comes our? Way on A thursday edition of the. 3210 02:24:09.920 --> 02:24:13.399 Show on A thursday edition of the, show usually A friday, 3211 02:24:13.520 --> 02:24:16.440 guest but moving them up a. Day chris Com ronnie in. 3212 02:24:16.680 --> 02:24:19.920 Studio of, course we'll cover all of our bases with C. 3213 02:24:20.159 --> 02:24:23.440 K we'll have some practice from The university Of. Utah in, 3214 02:24:23.479 --> 02:24:26.760 fact we'll have some sound From Kyle whittingham tomorrow as 3215 02:24:26.799 --> 02:24:30.479 they are just wrapping up camp right, Now Sports court, 3216 02:24:30.559 --> 02:24:34.200 tomorrow or More ruiz of THE Nfl network. Tomorrow so 3217 02:24:34.959 --> 02:24:36.440 kind of all over the map on A. 3218 02:24:36.479 --> 02:24:39.520 Thursday very nice special shout out today to our Friend 3219 02:24:39.760 --> 02:24:43.760 jimmy From fiddler's And. 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