Speaker 1: All right, what's going on?
Speaker 2: Drivetime Wednesday afternoon, twelve minutes past the hour of two o'clock.
Speaker 3: Another scorching hots August.
Speaker 2: Day outside about ninety two degrees sunning here in downtown
Speaker 2: Salix City, Utah, right outside of our Broadway Media studios.
Speaker 2: And as it is every single day, it's going.
Speaker 3: To have you along for the ride's mets check.
Speaker 2: It's beyond the Mike Porter Larson, beyond the Glass today
Speaker 2: with a jam pack Wednesday show, as we get you
Speaker 2: halfway through that work week and one day closer to
Speaker 2: the weekend.
Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday to you.
Speaker 4: A lot of college football on the show today, a
Speaker 4: lot of college football conversation, as we are just well.
Speaker 2: Quite frankly days away from the start of the season
Speaker 2: week zero and then week after that University of Utah
Speaker 2: gets rolling by Utah State.
Speaker 3: You're one under Bronco Menden Hall.
Speaker 2: A lot of storylines to get to, a lot of
Speaker 2: conversations surrounding the start of the college football season, and
Speaker 2: of course, a lot of Big twelve conversation. Listen to
Speaker 2: a couple of Big twelve pods today. David Pollock, formerly
Speaker 2: of ESPN, was on a Big twelve podcast this morning
Speaker 2: with a lot of very complimentary things to say about
Speaker 2: the University of Utah, his confidence that they will bounce
Speaker 2: back after a five win season last year. Year one
Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve, how will your two shape out
Speaker 2: for the Utes?
Speaker 4: And of course BYU continue to look for their quarterback.
Speaker 4: Reasonable expectations Year one for Bronco Meta Hall with eighty
Speaker 4: new players. Eighty new players at Utah State among the
Speaker 4: most turnover into country. Bronco's a great coach, He's a
Speaker 4: great organized communicator, dedicated.
Speaker 2: To the process. Bryson Barnes will be under center for
Speaker 2: the Aggies. What's a realistic expectation for them? Get in
Speaker 2: all the college football storylines. Utah Jazz made a trade yesterday.
Speaker 2: George Yang is rolling back to Salt Lake City. Jazz
Speaker 2: are preparing for another year of futility. How does that
Speaker 2: land with a player like Lowry Marketing. I know he's
Speaker 2: a max money guy, and I know he got his contract,
Speaker 2: but I just kind of have to wonder, and we'll
Speaker 2: get into some of this on the show today. What
Speaker 2: sort of adverse effect culturally does it have on an
Speaker 2: organization when you're about to enter your fourth straight year
Speaker 2: of not being very good at what you do, and yes,
Speaker 2: the long game is what they're preaching, and we'll see
Speaker 2: if the fans continue.
Speaker 3: To stick along for the ride.
Speaker 2: And hopefully there's some more hope this year than there
Speaker 2: has been over the prior few seasons. But we'll get
Speaker 2: into some of that out of the show today. Utah
Speaker 2: Mammoth have filed a lawsuit against a bad company about
Speaker 2: the name change from Utah Hockey Club to Utah Mammoth.
Speaker 4: So we'll get into some of that. Maybe we'll do
Speaker 4: some sports court tomorrow with our.
Speaker 2: Friends Handy and Handy about that dynamic RSL in action
Speaker 2: tonight Lead's Cup action.
Speaker 3: And it is a midweek tilt.
Speaker 2: They're going to take on a Mexican club as they're
Speaker 2: trying to advance out of the group play in League's Cup,
Speaker 2: and it looks like we could see the new designated
Speaker 2: player tonight and RSL made it official as well just
Speaker 2: a number of minutes ago that they have made another acquisition.
Speaker 2: So Rawan Cruz, the player that Pablo referred to on
Speaker 2: this show as a nine and a half like a
Speaker 2: striker that can also make plays.
Speaker 3: Received his work visa this morning.
Speaker 2: He should be available tonight against Caratiaro. I think that's
Speaker 2: how you say it. Do not tweet a me. I
Speaker 2: don't care. But it is a Mexican side tonight that
Speaker 2: RSL needs to win in order to give themselves a chance.
Speaker 2: I think they need to get all three tonight, which
Speaker 2: means they cannot advance the penalty kicks, and then I
Speaker 2: think they need six different results to go their way.
Speaker 3: So small chance, like Utah in.
Speaker 2: The FACT twelve Championship a couple of years ago, like
Speaker 2: five things had to go to ut Way and it did.
Speaker 2: RSL also signed Victor Olatunji today. Olatunji today from Sparta
Speaker 2: Prague two point five mil. It's a tam deal. Love
Speaker 2: the tam. It's different than gam M I less is
Speaker 2: a dumb league. It goes through June of twenty twenty eight,
Speaker 2: with options for the rest of twenty eight twenty nine.
Speaker 2: RSL paid DC United a one hundred and twenty five
Speaker 2: thousand dollars discovery rights fee as well, so two editions
Speaker 2: in the attack for Pablo's Group and MLS play will
Speaker 2: continue coming up on Sunday in New York, so a
Speaker 2: lot to do. NFL preseason action coming up this weekend.
Speaker 2: Should or Sanders is gonna get a start for the
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns under center. Hard Knocks episode released last night.
Speaker 2: The debut of Hard Knocks features the Buffalo Bills. So
Speaker 2: NFL football right around the corner as well. So a
Speaker 2: lot to do on the show with a good guest list. Well,
Speaker 2: welcome in our good friend Tony Parks will be our
Speaker 2: first guest. Tony, of course the voice of the Bees,
Speaker 2: but a long time radio personality in our market. We'll
Speaker 2: do some college football, some jazz, and some Bees with Tony. Today,
Speaker 2: Dave Fox stops by live in studio, So if you've
Speaker 2: ever wanted to meet Dave, maybe just start your way
Speaker 2: downtown to our Broadway Media studios and get the paparazzi ready.
Speaker 2: As Dave will roll In was on TV with Dave
Speaker 2: last night, T thirty five Cam Why you we Call that?
Speaker 2: Five questions with Spence streaming at kutv dot com as well.
Speaker 2: Voice of the Utes Bill Riley back on the program today.
Speaker 2: Then we'll preview tonight's match for RSL and talk about
Speaker 2: these two new editions with the chief decision maker over there, Kurt.
Speaker 3: Schmidt on the show as well.
Speaker 2: So Tony Parks, Dave Fox Bill, Riley, Kirk Schmidt, Me
Speaker 2: Spence check, ats all of you, the great listeners, and
Speaker 2: that guy Porter Larson on a Wednesday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Happy Wednesday, young man. How are you?
Speaker 1: I'm well? How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm well? Thank you for asking, of course, right off
Speaker 3: the top of Duke, Duke is good. Duke is chilling.
Speaker 2: You know, I just realized something. We're about to turn
Speaker 2: six years old. The show is turning six years old
Speaker 2: next week. Okay, we'll be doing this for six years.
Speaker 2: Duke's about to turn five.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 2: And our show is very much like Duke getting old, well,
Speaker 2: not getting old, but we are kind of as a
Speaker 2: radio show where a lot like Duke is. He is
Speaker 2: very calm, he's very cute, he's very handsome.
Speaker 3: Here we go. He does a very very good job
Speaker 3: most of the time.
Speaker 2: Then sometimes he has an accident inside and you have
Speaker 2: to throw away a blanket or a.
Speaker 4: Carpet, and that's kind of how we are. Yeah, we're
Speaker 4: pretty balanced.
Speaker 3: Most of the time.
Speaker 2: Good looking guys, handsome, cute, do a good job. And
Speaker 2: then then occasionally there's an accident on the carpet and
Speaker 2: you know, and by the way, for you dog owners
Speaker 2: out there, throw away the carpet, throw away the blanket, like,
Speaker 2: don't do the whole like orange mix where it's like, hey,
Speaker 2: this will solve your odor problem.
Speaker 3: No, it smells like poop, period.
Speaker 2: And then you try the orange stuff and it just
Speaker 2: smells like orange poop forever.
Speaker 1: The best did you have an accident is weak?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, The best solution is to throw it
Speaker 3: out like I'm with you.
Speaker 2: You can never like I don't know. I can only
Speaker 2: speak for my dog who's here in studio. When Duke
Speaker 2: has an accident in the house and it hasn't happened
Speaker 2: for quite some time because he's house trained, it doesn't
Speaker 2: smell like a cute, little puppy dog poop. It smells
Speaker 2: like a grown man went to del taco at three
Speaker 2: am and woke up with diary at four and just
Speaker 2: went all over the carpet. So the first, the first
Speaker 2: few accidents, I did, try the whole, like, hey, the
Speaker 2: orange miracle bottle.
Speaker 3: You get at Petco, This is going to eliminate the odor.
Speaker 2: And then it just goes from smelling like diarrhea to
Speaker 2: orange flavor diarrhea. Throw out the blanket throughout the carpet,
Speaker 2: start from scratch.
Speaker 3: Does that make sense.
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you.
Speaker 3: But as a radio show.
Speaker 2: We're very much like Duke locked in most of the time,
Speaker 2: but occasionally there's an accident and that gets us in trouble.
Speaker 3: That sound right, I think it's about right.
Speaker 2: I don't sleep very well, so these are the weird
Speaker 2: things to go through my head when I'm trying to sleep.
Speaker 6: I've seen a lot of people that compare dogs to
Speaker 6: their owners, like they morph into each other. Uh huh,
Speaker 6: and that seems to come to fruition sometimes.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, Duke is just nappy now on the ground.
Speaker 3: Good boy, good boy, Duke.
Speaker 2: All right, anyway, loose analogy. That's what happens when you
Speaker 2: have a busy mind. You don't sleep well. You just
Speaker 2: think about weird things. Tony Parks will be our first
Speaker 2: guest today in the program. But football season is here,
Speaker 2: and the Utah ESPN Radio Network is getting you ready
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Speaker 2: college ball. It's the thirty one Days of Football presented
Speaker 2: by Baskin Robbins on ESPN seven hundred. All Right, a
Speaker 2: couple of minutes here opening tip Porter, I want you
Speaker 2: to chime in because I was listening to a couple
Speaker 2: of pods earlier today. If I just asked you the
Speaker 2: cliched August question prior to college football, what does a
Speaker 2: successful season look like for Utah football this year? And
Speaker 2: I always find this question interesting because Kyle has said
Speaker 2: this standard that certainly wasn't met last season. And if
Speaker 2: we're honest, they didn't meet our expectations. They didn't meet
Speaker 2: their own expectations. They didn't meet the expectations of the
Speaker 2: bookies in Vegas, they didn't meet the expectations of the
Speaker 2: national media. You look at some of the over unders,
Speaker 2: you look at some of the previews, and Utah does
Speaker 2: not have the pressure this year that they did last
Speaker 2: year when everybody thought they were going to win the thing.
Speaker 2: If I say to you eight nine wins, you know,
Speaker 2: good bowl game, does that feel like a successful season?
Speaker 2: How would you define success for football this year?
Speaker 6: I think with where this program is in the context
Speaker 6: of where college football is, I don't really care if
Speaker 6: it's eight nine, ten, seven wins. I care if you're
Speaker 6: playing for something at the end of the year, if
Speaker 6: you're going into the final week of the season and
Speaker 6: you have an opportunity, say, oh, I don't know, to
Speaker 6: win a Big twelve championship and get to a playoff,
Speaker 6: play your way in. I don't care if you won
Speaker 6: eight games. I don't care how pretty it has looked.
Speaker 6: I think that's where we're at, not only with college football,
Speaker 6: but with the team coached by one Kyle Whittingham, who
Speaker 6: you know, whether you think this is his.
Speaker 1: Last year or his last three or four years.
Speaker 6: There's a little bit of a last ride feel to it, right,
Speaker 6: And I think with that context included, yeah, I don't
Speaker 6: care if it's a ten win season. I care if
Speaker 6: going into the final week of the regular season you
Speaker 6: have some sort of opportunity to play your way way
Speaker 6: into a.
Speaker 3: Big twelve championship game.
Speaker 6: And if you can do that, then you know the optics,
Speaker 6: the non linear way that the season will go. That
Speaker 6: means less to me than what we see in late
Speaker 6: November and October.
Speaker 2: So it's interesting because if I said to you, did
Speaker 2: BYU have a successful season a year ago, you have
Speaker 2: to say yes, right, you have to say yes, eleven
Speaker 2: wins Ala Mobole, but didn't play in the Big twelve
Speaker 2: Championship game, because these questions always have to be steeped
Speaker 2: with context and expectation. And one of the reasons last
Speaker 2: year felt like such a gut punch for Utah football
Speaker 2: was the expectation for the Utes heading into the season,
Speaker 2: and expectations in life and in sports often lead to
Speaker 2: failure and often lead to disappointment. And Ted Lassel Porter's
Speaker 2: favorite television program, it's not todd all of us that
Speaker 2: it is the hope that kills you. But the over
Speaker 2: under this year, according to Vegas Insider, for Utah football,
Speaker 2: is seven point five wins. So if I gave you
Speaker 2: Porter right now eight wins for Utah, if I said
Speaker 2: you can take eight go to a bowl game, I
Speaker 2: can't guarantee that's gonna even sniff the Big Twelve championship.
Speaker 2: But Vegas says seven point five five wins a year ago,
Speaker 2: year two and the Big Twelve. If I give you
Speaker 2: eight wins for Utah football right now, do you take it?
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 6: I think I'm gonna roll with I think I'm gonna
Speaker 6: roll with my chances, with the coaching staff we have
Speaker 6: with uh. Like I said, the context of college football,
Speaker 6: which I think right now is kind of chaotic, right
Speaker 6: and I think that this coaching staff, the experience that
Speaker 6: they have, they have an opportunity to kind of not
Speaker 6: catch lightning in a bottle. But you do have to
Speaker 6: look at college football in kind of a smaller timeline.
Speaker 6: And I have confidence in this staff in, you know,
Speaker 6: maybe putting together a nine to ten game run outside
Speaker 6: of you know, just take it eight games and good.
Speaker 6: I think they're capable of maybe more than that. I'm
Speaker 6: not saying I think it's likely. I think that that's
Speaker 6: a pretty fair over under from the folks in Vegas.
Speaker 6: But I'm I'm gonna roll the dice and say, you know,
Speaker 6: eight or nine. Maybe if you really start well, you
Speaker 6: look at that double digit and that would be a
Speaker 6: success to me.
Speaker 2: DraftKings also has Utah's over under total at seven point five.
Speaker 2: Draft Kings for Bringing Me Young. It's eight point five.
Speaker 2: So eight point five wins for BYU, seven point five
Speaker 2: wins for Utah. It's interesting when you consider the schedule
Speaker 2: for Utah this year, and ultimately, as we've all learned,
Speaker 2: when it comes to you trying to predict and prognosticate
Speaker 2: what the Big twelve will look like, it is often
Speaker 2: an exercise in futility.
Speaker 3: It's not the best conference in America.
Speaker 2: It's not close quite frankly, but it might be the
Speaker 2: most competitive, just with a group of seven to eight
Speaker 2: really really good football teams. It feels a little bit
Speaker 2: like the PAC twelve did over the final couple of
Speaker 2: seasons for Utah. The PAC twelve, but when you kind
Speaker 2: of read around, look at some Vegas ods, read some
Speaker 2: media members that are trying to predict Utah, and BYU
Speaker 2: seem to be in the mix of teams that people
Speaker 2: think can win it. Arizona State in that mix, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of love for David Randon Baylor, a lot
Speaker 2: of unknown in Colorado as they say goodbye to a
Speaker 2: Heisman Trophy winner and their quarterback. Iowa State and k
Speaker 2: State seem to be those benefit of the doubt teams
Speaker 2: in this conference. And then of course Texas Tech with
Speaker 2: their massive investment, their economic investment and the talent has
Speaker 2: to be considered part of the mix.
Speaker 3: Mike Gunny got rid of most of his staff.
Speaker 2: I don't think this is going to be a season
Speaker 2: where Oklahoma State does much. TCU was kind of in
Speaker 2: the mix as well, but most of the teams that
Speaker 2: are considered to be potentially winning the Big twelve championship.
Speaker 2: Utah is pretty fortunate because they get Texas Tech at home,
Speaker 2: they get Arizona State at home, they get Colorado at home,
Speaker 2: and they get Case State at home. The two road
Speaker 2: games that you need to watch out for, of course,
Speaker 2: are clearly at Brigham Young down Provo and then at
Speaker 2: Baylor and Waco, and then a tricky one at the
Speaker 2: end of the season at Kansas as well. But three
Speaker 2: of the potential Big twelve contending teams are playing Utah
Speaker 2: here in Salt Lake City, so obviously that bodes well.
Speaker 2: Seven and a half Vegas line for over underwins for
Speaker 2: Utah football. It feels like they can definitely get over that.
Speaker 2: Can they do more than eight or nine wins? Will
Speaker 2: eight or nine wins be enough to get them in
Speaker 2: the mix to win a Big twelve championship home Only
Speaker 2: time will tell. So it is that time of year
Speaker 2: where we're honed in on a lot of these predictions
Speaker 2: and expectations. Then obviously we'll learn more about these teams
Speaker 2: once kickoff comes, which is only twenty four days away.
Speaker 4: So I really wanted to enjoy its happy Gilmore too,
Speaker 4: wanted to sit down last night, not a lot going on,
Speaker 4: not a lot of sports, hanging out with a dog,
Speaker 4: made a little dinner, sat down, fired up Happy You
Speaker 4: Go More Too. Was hoping for at least some nostalgia,
Speaker 4: and to be fair, maybe there's still some. But after
Speaker 4: fifteen minutes, I'm like, this is just so bad. I
Speaker 4: had to turn it off.
Speaker 2: So therefore went over to HBO and fired up the
Speaker 2: new documentary on Billy Joel. Two part doc they're both
Speaker 2: like three hours, so didn't get through all of it,
Speaker 2: but we're gonna do a little bit Billy Joel on
Speaker 2: the show today, port Red. I don't know if you
Speaker 2: have a Billy Joel take at all, or you did
Speaker 2: try to watch Happy Gilmore Too for a minute, didn't you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 6: I think I said yesterday like turned into like grown
Speaker 6: ups kind of right.
Speaker 3: That's the exact right description.
Speaker 1: Spoiler alert.
Speaker 6: When he kills his wife two minutes into the movie,
Speaker 6: all right, here we go, and it just it just
Speaker 6: kind of keeps going. And I get it. It's supposed
Speaker 6: to be outrageous. Is an Adam Sandler movie. We're expected
Speaker 6: to just like lean into that. Uh, But I think
Speaker 6: there's a limit to how much you can just like
Speaker 6: start filming and throw your friends on and not really
Speaker 6: have like a plan. Yeah, and that's real script. This
Speaker 6: is a movie we've waiting for for twenty years, Like,
Speaker 6: give us something that has some flow with the storyline
Speaker 6: that we just saw. I don't know, sorry to go
Speaker 6: big on Happy Goalmore. Billy Joel's fine, all.
Speaker 3: Right, Billy Joel's fine.
Speaker 2: No, no, Ultimately I'll watch the rest of it, mostly
Speaker 2: because Shooter McGavin looks like my father and he hates
Speaker 2: that he does. It's like my favorite thing. It's my
Speaker 2: favorite thing. In fact, he was mistook in the airport.
Speaker 2: Poor shooting McGavin. Ones and anyway, Happy Gilmore Too. I'll
Speaker 2: get through it.
Speaker 1: See on the on the ninth Green Dave Check.
Speaker 2: Its indeed live and studio, one of my good friends
Speaker 2: in this business. It's always a pleasure to catch up
Speaker 2: with Tony Parks, the voice of the Bees. Have you
Speaker 2: have you tried to suffer through Happy Gilmore Too?
Speaker 3: Yet?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I went in. Look the bar's low.
Speaker 4: It's gonna kind of be a bunch of I don't know,
Speaker 4: just cameos where you kind of have references to stuff.
Speaker 4: You just go in for a few laughs, just to
Speaker 4: you know, see what it's like.
Speaker 3: Okay, cool.
Speaker 4: I did that with Coming to America too, yea was yeah,
Speaker 4: same kind of thing.
Speaker 3: Didn't go in.
Speaker 4: There like, oh I hope this is great. No, just
Speaker 4: you're gonna laugh, You're gonna see a lot of the
Speaker 4: same characters. You can have some fun with it. And
Speaker 4: once I was passed that part about twenty minutes in,
Speaker 4: I fell asleep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeah, fair enough, I want to sleep. I had. No,
Speaker 3: you can't go into it thinking like this be great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just no, you can't replicate it. So there don't
Speaker 4: even try to replicate it. The big thing is just
Speaker 4: to have it essentially be a bunch of throwbacks. Would
Speaker 4: laughs the other thing, And you tell me if you
Speaker 4: do this, yeah, and I've always done this, and you
Speaker 4: know you and I work in sports and have worked
Speaker 4: in sports for a long time. So if I'm watching
Speaker 4: a sports movie, I'm like overly critical.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's a movie screen. That's not how you
Speaker 2: shoot a jump shot, that's not how you throw football. Right,
Speaker 2: So there's also part of me like, all right, three
Speaker 2: holes in one on a par fours, right, you know,
Speaker 2: I do have this weird dynamic if I'm watching a
Speaker 2: sports movie, I'm overly critical like the sports scenes because
Speaker 2: actors are not athletes.
Speaker 3: I hate to be that way too, but I am.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like, first of all, the PA announcers not doing
Speaker 4: play by play, So that's a dead giveaway that you
Speaker 4: didn't really know what you were doing with any of this, right.
Speaker 4: I love the movie Major League more than anything, but
Speaker 4: Lou Brown does get away batting ten hitters in that
Speaker 4: championship game against the.
Speaker 2: Endgames, you're pitching from a stretch, there's a man on first.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just weird stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Oh, there's just yeah, there's like little stuff like that
Speaker 4: that I'm like, no, No, there's football lines out in
Speaker 4: the outfield in May Like, you hate to have to
Speaker 4: be that way, but you do get that way because
Speaker 4: that helps with the authenticity of the movie. And so
Speaker 4: I think every time I've watched these, I'm like, you
Speaker 4: could have had just a few people sitting in on
Speaker 4: this and help you out with that fine detail.
Speaker 3: I remember I.
Speaker 2: Had Dennis Lindsay on my show. It was prior to
Speaker 2: an NBA draft, and I asked him if he had
Speaker 2: seen Draft Day with Kevin Costner. Yeah, And I was
Speaker 2: not expected Dennis went off on like a ten minute
Speaker 2: diatribe about how inaccurate that movie is when it comes
Speaker 2: to the draft process. It's funny if a movie's made
Speaker 2: about something that you're very familiar with, you're just overly
Speaker 2: critical of how Hollywood depicts it.
Speaker 4: You have to I think they should actually sit in
Speaker 4: those rooms and then get people to be like, hey,
Speaker 4: watch this, Yeah, what are we missing? Oh, we're over
Speaker 4: exaggerating this.
Speaker 7: Oh.
Speaker 4: When I put together the Steve Clouke documentary, I wasn't
Speaker 4: able to find film of his very first game that
Speaker 4: he ever went to, some random July game in nineteen
Speaker 4: sixty three. But I found film of the fifty nine
Speaker 4: World Series and a home run that went to the
Speaker 4: same area, and I it was awesome. But I kept
Speaker 4: telling them, you've got to zoom in on this home
Speaker 4: run and they're like, why, it's great because the umpire
Speaker 4: and right field like signals home run and it looks
Speaker 4: so cool. I was like, because that's a World Series game,
Speaker 4: and you'd have an umpire and right field in the
Speaker 4: World Series and this is a regular season game in July.
Speaker 1: And they're like, Oh, no one's gonna care.
Speaker 4: I'm like, it is all Steve Cloukey, we'll talk about
Speaker 4: if he sees this for sure, and so I like,
Speaker 4: we had to go over this for ten minutes. So
Speaker 4: I've always thought I wish they would do that with
Speaker 4: movies or anything like that, to be like, no, that's
Speaker 4: too unbelievable.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then people like what.
Speaker 4: I'm like, okay, but what how are we trying to
Speaker 4: depict this Moneyball?
Speaker 1: I was the one who was like, Nope, that's a
Speaker 1: day game. That's a day game. I remember that game.
Speaker 3: As a taycad. I hate to be that way, but
Speaker 3: I'm the same one. No, that's true.
Speaker 2: Moneyball is funny because I actually I took a date
Speaker 2: to that movie. Okay, and afterwards she's like, well, wait,
Speaker 2: they didn't win. It's like, well, they won like whatever,
Speaker 2: twenty straight. Yeah, well but they didn't win. They didn't
Speaker 2: win like in the playoffs. And she wasn't a big
Speaker 2: sports fan, but she's like, what's they didn't win the
Speaker 2: World Series. He's like, well, they won a bunch of
Speaker 2: games straight and Brad Pitt played Billy being whatever.
Speaker 3: It's a fun story. Yeah, anyway, have you been made, dude?
Speaker 3: I love it. Things are good. Yeah, go to the
Speaker 3: ballpark every day. Enjoy it all the time. Yep. Just
Speaker 3: wake up every day, go to a baseball game.
Speaker 1: There's nothing like it.
Speaker 4: Watching the journeys of so many people being so connected
Speaker 4: to them.
Speaker 3: It's wonderful.
Speaker 9: Man.
Speaker 4: New Ballpark's beautiful. It's great to have its first summer.
Speaker 4: You know, we have the spring part and all of that,
Speaker 4: and just the different chapters of the year. The way
Speaker 4: the whole America First Square is coming together with the
Speaker 4: new Megaplex and now the Amphitheater, it's really cool because
Speaker 4: three sixty five, that whole area is just gonna have
Speaker 4: something family friendly and cool to do. So the stadium
Speaker 4: is obviously where you'll find me most times, but just
Speaker 4: watching it all come together, it's beautiful.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Give me a quick breakdown of where we're at with
Speaker 2: the team and how things are going, and you know,
Speaker 2: maybe some prospects to look out for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, coming off of what I think was their absolute
Speaker 4: best road road series and really series altogether. They beat
Speaker 4: the team with the best record in the league four
Speaker 4: out of five to start that series, I mean, really
Speaker 4: soundly handled them, gave a game away even with a
Speaker 4: fluky ground ball that hit second base that would have
Speaker 4: ended the game. But you know something like that, you
Speaker 4: win four out of six. It's the team with the
Speaker 4: most amount of quality starts in all of the Pacific
Speaker 4: Coast League, right like, it's the team that I think
Speaker 4: has young emerging players. That's a positive sign to see.
Speaker 4: So one guy like his Jared Souther coming out of
Speaker 4: the pen. Sammy Peralta, who spent some time with the
Speaker 4: Sox last year, he was right there now with the UH.
Speaker 4: He was pitcher of the Week for the Pacific Coast League,
Speaker 4: So a big tip of the hat to him for
Speaker 4: his great work and what he was able to do.
Speaker 4: And so so proud of so many different guys. But
Speaker 4: it's been fun to watch successful players come along. I
Speaker 4: like a guy named Victor Maderos. I call him the
Speaker 4: Boa Constrictor because the way he just methodically takes over
Speaker 4: a game, a great starting pitcher who's just magnificent to watch.
Speaker 3: And then there's a young kid in Caden Dana.
Speaker 4: He's got electric stuff and you know he's just going
Speaker 4: to continue to get better and better. So it's fun
Speaker 4: watching each guy. But Sammy PERALTA big tip of that
Speaker 4: to him. Pitcher of the Month for the Pacific Coast
Speaker 4: League in July, and he deserves all the credit in
Speaker 4: the world. So it's been awesome. Man, Are are you
Speaker 4: getting the crowds that you need to get?
Speaker 8: Yeah?
Speaker 4: You know, the Tribune did a little piece on a
Speaker 4: little bit of an attendance dip, which I think is
Speaker 4: going to be inevitable when you move from a centrally
Speaker 4: located area.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people out in this direction
Speaker 2: have had a out south. I mean I have a
Speaker 2: lot of friends and you and I talked about this
Speaker 2: when the news came down that the Bees were headed south.
Speaker 2: You're simply going to react to the news as it
Speaker 2: pertains to you, right, So I live in Salt Lake.
Speaker 3: I was bummed.
Speaker 2: My buddies who used to go at the time don't
Speaker 2: go anymore. But much of the valley is migrated down south.
Speaker 2: The population down there is booming. So what have the
Speaker 2: crowds been like so far?
Speaker 4: Crowd's been great because a number of sellouts from games
Speaker 4: that are not theme nights, games that are not fireworks nights.
Speaker 3: Last night was a great crowd.
Speaker 4: That was a Tuesday night. I mean it was the
Speaker 4: burm was packed. I mean, there were a lot of
Speaker 4: people walking around. What I like about the crowd is
Speaker 4: when you go to the game every night, it feels
Speaker 4: like everybody's first game. And that's going to be like
Speaker 4: that this first year. So the first April and May,
Speaker 4: I didn't expect it to be great at all because
Speaker 4: that's the springtime. New location, six thirty five starts. Kids
Speaker 4: have school the next day. The other part that people
Speaker 4: forget about April May games. The weather's part of it,
Speaker 4: there's no doubt. The other part of it is if
Speaker 4: anything gets in the way, you have seventy games to
Speaker 4: choose from, you can always put it off. So let's
Speaker 4: say you're going to go Thursday, and then you know,
Speaker 4: it took a little too long to pick up the kids,
Speaker 4: and then.
Speaker 3: I forgot we had to drop this off. You know what,
Speaker 3: I'm tired. Let's just let's just go another time. And
Speaker 3: that's how it happens.
Speaker 4: So now you get to this part of the year
Speaker 4: and you're seeing terrific crowds. Next year is the one
Speaker 4: where I think it's going to be fair to really
Speaker 4: see on the different chapters on how it's attended. It's
Speaker 4: an area that loves events, and it's an area that
Speaker 4: loves their stuff. So that Daybreak community and that whole
Speaker 4: pocket out there, they're juiced about it. They love the
Speaker 4: whole entire thing. Like I said, I think you put
Speaker 4: it perfectly. You're going to react to how it affects you.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's how.
Speaker 4: If you're in Davis County, you're like, this is the
Speaker 4: stupidest thing ever, right, and then if you're in South Jordan,
Speaker 4: you're like, well this is great.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we went over there. It was an amazing experience. Right.
Speaker 4: And then for some people they didn't have to get
Speaker 4: on one freeway now they have to get on three.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, and for some of the belly acheing.
Speaker 2: In fact, a buddy of mine who lives a little
Speaker 2: further up north to your point, not quite in Davis County,
Speaker 2: but like North Salt.
Speaker 4: Lake, dude to coope believe the Bees are moving down south.
Speaker 4: I'm like, how many Bees games did you go to
Speaker 4: last year's?
Speaker 9: Right?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Three?
Speaker 2: Like all right, well, don't pretend you were going to
Speaker 2: forty or fifty. If you went to two or three,
Speaker 2: it doesn't really adversly affect you. So hopefully they give
Speaker 2: the support one more thing here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Occasionally I'll see a social media post or a headline
Speaker 2: about MLB expansion, and Rob Manfred has said it's not
Speaker 2: happening until the new CBA is ratified.
Speaker 3: I think that's in two years if I remember correctly.
Speaker 2: But every time this comes up, it's Nashville, it's Salt Lake,
Speaker 2: it's Portland. I feel like those are the three, and
Speaker 2: I feel like we're continued, you know, to be mentioned
Speaker 2: right in the mix.
Speaker 1: If we're not at the top, we're close to the top.
Speaker 2: And obviously the Millers have put together comprehensive plans to
Speaker 2: put a shovel in the dirt as soon as they
Speaker 2: get the green light. I am so badly hoping this
Speaker 2: happens for us. Oh, do you have any insight as
Speaker 2: to where we're at now?
Speaker 4: The insight that I could give you is this, as
Speaker 4: far as like, okay, chances, what are the chances I
Speaker 4: would if you were to make me say, okay, when
Speaker 4: does expansion happen?
Speaker 3: Well, that we don't really know, So you'd have to
Speaker 3: be after.
Speaker 1: The CBA, and we have to wait. We don't even
Speaker 1: know how long that would be.
Speaker 4: Plus you forget too once it was even announced, like okay,
Speaker 4: the Arizona Diamondbacks and the Tampa Bay Devil Rays way
Speaker 4: back when it was four years before games were ever played.
Speaker 4: It was a long time, so there's a process there. Plus,
Speaker 4: you forget this too, is like Ryan Smith purchasing you know,
Speaker 4: the hockey team. That team already existed, so it was
Speaker 4: a turnkey thing. You had the arena all that. I know,
Speaker 4: it's not automatic. It takes work, sure, but it's totally
Speaker 4: different with expansion. You got to get a spring training facility,
Speaker 4: you need minor league affiliates.
Speaker 8: You did.
Speaker 3: There's so much that's going to go into that.
Speaker 4: Where I think Salt Lake has the advantage over everybody
Speaker 4: else is the headaches that they've minimized or removed.
Speaker 3: One of the greatest things that they have.
Speaker 4: I mean, you really have to tip your hat to
Speaker 4: everybody involved on this to say, implementation is how do
Speaker 4: we make sure that we are the best, most attractive
Speaker 4: in front, ready to go with all the headaches, all
Speaker 4: the nonsense, all the everything that goes on behind the
Speaker 4: scenes that just drags on. Forty seven chain emails and
Speaker 4: a bunch of odds and ends that just exhaust time.
Speaker 4: They've said here it is boom, there's the plan, and
Speaker 4: they've gotten in touch with people who know, they've gotten
Speaker 4: in touch with people who understand those complexities.
Speaker 3: They can help see around some corners to speed things up.
Speaker 4: That, if anything, should make Salt Lake as attractive as
Speaker 4: anything else. And then on top of that, you know
Speaker 4: a great sports market that would attend and have attention
Speaker 4: and have a fever pitch around their team.
Speaker 2: So Bob Nightingale, MLB columnists for USA Today, on July
Speaker 2: twenty second, so not too long ago, wrote that he's
Speaker 2: been told Salt Lake City and Nashville remain the strongest
Speaker 2: expansion markets, and I did miss I misspoke earlier. The
Speaker 2: new CBA actually expires at the end of next season,
Speaker 2: so it ends in twenty six. The negotiations are going
Speaker 2: on right now, so we might not get news until
Speaker 2: the end of twenty six. However, about a week ago,
Speaker 2: Portland's making a push. Portland is making a push because
Speaker 2: they need to kind of do something to figure out
Speaker 2: their downtown situation. That is, unfortunately, you know, led to
Speaker 2: a lot of people moving from downtown Portland, including some
Speaker 2: friends of mine that moved up to Gresham. So it
Speaker 2: does feel like those are the three markets, Nashville, Saw
Speaker 2: Lake and Portland. And to your point about the Millers
Speaker 2: and how they're ready to make this happen as soon
Speaker 2: as they get the green light. It feels like we're
Speaker 2: gonna in a good space with it. We'll do some
Speaker 2: college football during the next segment here. With the remaining
Speaker 2: time here, let's do a little jazz. Tony and I
Speaker 2: worked together for a number of years over at the
Speaker 2: old station when we were broadcast partners with the Jazz
Speaker 2: doing pre off and post and new decision maker in
Speaker 2: town with Austin Ahe and I gotta be honest, I
Speaker 2: kind of like his approach compared to what they've been
Speaker 2: trying to do over the past three seasons. No matter
Speaker 2: the narrative they try to force down people's throats to
Speaker 2: the propaganda that they encourage their you know, state on
Speaker 2: media members to forward. This is year four of a
Speaker 2: rebuild that's been clunky, to say the least, and I
Speaker 2: think they finally have ripped the band aid off as
Speaker 2: opposed to trying to put you know, these things together
Speaker 2: with duct tape and Shugo.
Speaker 3: The George Dang trade you know, doesn't mean a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Essentially, Boston was trying to shed some salary and the
Speaker 2: Jazz get two second rounders. George is a safe bet.
Speaker 2: You know you and I worked over there when he
Speaker 2: was playing. He's a good guy.
Speaker 4: He's a pro that will kind of help these young
Speaker 4: players play or these young players.
Speaker 2: Learn how to be professionals. But here's here's what I
Speaker 2: want to ask you. Because you've been around several of
Speaker 2: our local teams for a number of different years and
Speaker 2: seeing several different iterations of coaching staffs, so front offices
Speaker 2: of rosters, how does losing seep into the culture of
Speaker 2: a team and the culture of an organization, And how
Speaker 2: does it affect Like Larry Marketing got his MAX deal,
Speaker 2: so he got paid. That's fine, But I wonder if
Speaker 2: you're if you're lowry, do you I feel like your
Speaker 2: value as an NBA player has been adversely affected because A,
Speaker 2: you were told that you're not playing very much last
Speaker 2: year even when you're healthy. And b it's been three
Speaker 2: years since he really had a good season because they
Speaker 2: were semi serious about winning year one and Larry had
Speaker 2: some grown ups around him like Mike Conley and Kelly Olynnock.
Speaker 2: And then how does it affect to Will Hardy that
Speaker 2: for the fourth year he does not have the tools
Speaker 2: he needs to win games. And look, coaches are judged
Speaker 2: on one thing, it's their win loss record. Will's won
Speaker 2: about thirty two percent of his games. I know, we
Speaker 2: do this thing where it's like, well, Will's bright and
Speaker 2: he's a good coach, he's the one to ride with. Okay,
Speaker 2: that's fine. But if you're Will Hardy, if you're a
Speaker 2: head coach and you don't have the tools you need
Speaker 2: to compete, if you're Larry Market and you're a star
Speaker 2: player and you're not surrounded with adults and you're not
Speaker 2: able to show exactly who you are in the landscape
Speaker 2: of professional basketball. If you're in the ticket office, if
Speaker 2: you're selling sponsorships, if you're part of an organization that's
Speaker 2: about to enter your fourth year of inability to compete
Speaker 2: with peers, what does that do to the entire operation?
Speaker 3: I mean it's it's not healthy.
Speaker 4: Like, in my opinion, if you want to sell to
Speaker 4: me going forward, there's some growth, there's some opportunity, there's
Speaker 4: some positive momentum.
Speaker 3: I'm actually all in on that.
Speaker 4: I was filling in for you last November and I thought, okay, well,
Speaker 4: with what I'm watching here, I thought, this is really
Speaker 4: unfair to will Hardy. It was one of the first
Speaker 4: things I said, like, this is like, there's not a
Speaker 4: lot he can do with this, and so my point
Speaker 4: was they should actually extend him.
Speaker 3: And I'm thinking two three years. They gave the guy six.
Speaker 4: That's great, and by the way, that was the first
Speaker 4: moment where you finally admitted but like, okay. So the
Speaker 4: way I put it is this, if you want to
Speaker 4: sell to me, there's big things coming up in an
Speaker 4: evolution of growth and things like that, with the changes
Speaker 4: you made to your front office, with the extension of
Speaker 4: your head coach, with some of the things you want
Speaker 4: going forward, I'm all in. I'll listen, but don't do
Speaker 4: that and sell to me that the last three years
Speaker 4: were necessary, because they were not. If one of them was,
Speaker 4: I might listen to that. Two of them, I'm not
Speaker 4: so sure. Three of them, I don't want to hear it.
Speaker 4: I don't want to hear it. You can't be in
Speaker 4: the third year of this and there's literally nothing like
Speaker 4: I was like, explain to me what Jazz.
Speaker 3: DNA is right now. Nobody could tell me. Explain to
Speaker 3: me what the culture of the team is.
Speaker 4: Give me one thing that makes us think, oh well, this,
Speaker 4: don't give me he's young, that that's not growth, that's
Speaker 4: not nothing excites me with he's young and he hit
Speaker 4: a three like that. No, let's get into really what's
Speaker 4: going on here. So if you want to sell it
Speaker 4: to me going forward, I'll listen. Actually, because now you
Speaker 4: started making moves that, in my opinion, start to admit
Speaker 4: even your motto, which would builds with us, climb with us,
Speaker 4: with whatever it was, Okay, Well, now you're implying that
Speaker 4: what just happened the last three years was certainly not
Speaker 4: that right. So at least you're the biggest thing you've done,
Speaker 4: whether outwardly or subconsciously, is admit that what's going on
Speaker 4: in the last three years is really unnecessary. So, in
Speaker 4: my opinion, no, it's not helpful. No, it's not good.
Speaker 4: When I watch Quinn Snyder's team step in and they
Speaker 4: weren't good, but you could an identity forming. You could
Speaker 4: see alignment with front office, with head coach with Okay,
Speaker 4: you're building some leadership here and there, Oh, Rudy is
Speaker 4: a defensive identity. Okay, there's a culture building here. You
Speaker 4: and I were sitting there in post game shows where
Speaker 4: they were they lost nine in a row, but they
Speaker 4: felt good about the place they were going.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: And I've talked this, I've told the story. I'm sitting
Speaker 4: in a game last year going I have no idea
Speaker 4: what this is. I have no idea what this is.
Speaker 4: This is just a two hour and fifteen minute like, okay,
Speaker 4: competed for a half, rolled over and died in the
Speaker 4: third quarter defensively, and everybody was like numb to it.
Speaker 3: And I'm like, man, that I'm not used to as
Speaker 3: being around the Jazz.
Speaker 4: So to my point going forward here, you can't do
Speaker 4: this again until people, oh, no, no, it's cool, it's cool.
Speaker 3: No, it's not.
Speaker 4: Even if you're a thirty two win team. You've got
Speaker 4: to show me something that. Okay, this is what Will
Speaker 4: is starting to form with the overall culture, mindset, identity
Speaker 4: of Utah Jazz basketball, because I believe he wants to
Speaker 4: build it. And I watched it at the G League
Speaker 4: and I think Morrison and Wojahowski like what they've done
Speaker 4: with their staff altogether.
Speaker 3: These are good moves.
Speaker 4: I saw it there and I could see what they
Speaker 4: were trying to do, but I also saw it not
Speaker 4: formulate at the NBA level.
Speaker 2: Yeah, eighty five and one sixty one, as well as
Speaker 2: record thirty four percent win percentage. And I am in
Speaker 2: the camp where I don't believe most of the results
Speaker 2: are on him or not. I am in that camp.
Speaker 2: He's also coached the two worst defensive teams in jazz
Speaker 2: history over the past two years, and honestly almost historically
Speaker 2: bad as it pertains to their peers in NBA basketball.
Speaker 2: That's how bad defensively they've been. And the other thing
Speaker 2: to think about is they're not really close. So at
Speaker 2: what point does the rubber meet the road now? As
Speaker 2: you alluded to, And I, like I said, I think
Speaker 2: Austin has come in and made some difficult decisions that
Speaker 2: have been necessary. I think they were too stubborn early
Speaker 2: on about Clarkson trying to get a first rounder for him.
Speaker 2: I think they were too stubborn for you know, their
Speaker 2: asks with John Collins, Colin Sexton. You know, whether it
Speaker 2: was Danny or or Justin or whatever, the fact that
Speaker 2: Austin was like, we just need to get rid of
Speaker 2: these dudes. We know that you love JC, we know
Speaker 2: that you know you like Sexton's energy, we know that
Speaker 2: you liked that John Collins may have had a career
Speaker 2: year last year, but they are not part of our
Speaker 2: future plans, and.
Speaker 3: No matter what, we need to get rid of them.
Speaker 2: So usef Narkets your throwaway couple second rounders here there,
Speaker 2: you know, buying out Clarkson. Let's just move on from
Speaker 2: this area of ambiguity where some nights we look okay
Speaker 2: and other nights we look anemick, And let's go all
Speaker 2: in on playing these young players, because I think there's
Speaker 2: a lot to like about Walter Clayton Junior. And I
Speaker 2: actually hope he's starting a point guard opening night, because
Speaker 2: call your look, it was unrealistic to expect him to
Speaker 2: fix a shot in a couple of months. But I
Speaker 2: summer league, my man didn't look like he's getting jumpers
Speaker 2: up at all. And I know that he's a bowl.
Speaker 2: I know that he's you know, good baseline end to end.
Speaker 2: He's fast, he's got a good feel for the game.
Speaker 2: But we need to learn about Ace. Ace might provide
Speaker 2: some hope, and so let's get him in the lineup.
Speaker 2: And hopefully Taylor's read with his health and let's get
Speaker 2: him in the lineup. But I want these kids playing
Speaker 2: thirty thirty five minutes. Yeah, it doesn't mean that they're
Speaker 2: close to being good, but at least you can kind
Speaker 2: of see a direction this year that I don't think
Speaker 2: we've seen over the past three seasons.
Speaker 3: No, I think you're one hundred percent right on with it.
Speaker 4: I think Tim McMahon said it best too, and he
Speaker 4: came on when I was filling in for you one
Speaker 4: of those times, and he just said, I essentially like
Speaker 4: paraphrasing of bit, but I think this postseason and the
Speaker 4: NBA Finals and all that should really make organizations look
Speaker 4: in the mirror and just get honest about the fact
Speaker 4: that they're not as close as they pretend to be.
Speaker 4: And having assets is one thing, having a hopeful future
Speaker 4: is one thing, but that does not guarantee that your
Speaker 4: operation is properly in place and properly operating so that
Speaker 4: it will be good enough to get the results you want.
Speaker 4: Saying look how much capital we have, Look how much
Speaker 4: of this But okay, that's nice, do you really know
Speaker 4: what you're doing with it? Do you have everything under
Speaker 4: the hood to actually get your team there? So what
Speaker 4: I also don't want to have going forward is this
Speaker 4: team being successful in the future and then saying, well, see,
Speaker 4: but those three years were necessary.
Speaker 3: No, they weren't.
Speaker 1: No, they weren't.
Speaker 3: You just gotta get honest about it. You gotta.
Speaker 4: There's a guy that I worked with and known, and
Speaker 4: he worked with a lot of people on health and
Speaker 4: body transformation and all that stuff, and he was like,
Speaker 4: first thing I do is I talk to him.
Speaker 1: If they're too in love with their story, I can't
Speaker 1: work with him.
Speaker 4: Like, whoa, he's the first thing they need to do
Speaker 4: is get rid of their narrative, get rid of their story,
Speaker 4: get honest about it.
Speaker 3: Once they do that, we can work together.
Speaker 4: But if I have this arm wrestle of well, no,
Speaker 4: that's not true because blah blah blah. Oh no boy,
Speaker 4: and they kind of want to stick to this story.
Speaker 4: He's like, it's a never win situation. So I just
Speaker 4: tell him, when you're ready to get rid of your
Speaker 4: narrative and your story about why you got in this situation,
Speaker 4: come talk to me.
Speaker 3: So if the Jazz want to get honest about that, they.
Speaker 4: Got a real shot. But if they want to kind
Speaker 4: of have one foot in front of the other and be.
Speaker 1: Like, well, no, but that's kind of what we were
Speaker 1: doing and to justify it.
Speaker 4: No, because now you're going to keep having residuals of
Speaker 4: what you once were, and you need to, as you said,
Speaker 4: rip the band aid, but you need to acknowledge and
Speaker 4: be honest about the past three years and then you
Speaker 4: can start thriving and climb together going forward. Yeah, the
Speaker 4: messaging has been really clunky, and I like justin'sanik a lot.
Speaker 4: I've known Danny Ainge since I was two. I'm not
Speaker 4: trying to.
Speaker 2: Be overly critical of the two guys, who I think
Speaker 2: are good at their job. But when they planted last
Speaker 2: year through Sarah, through Sarah Todd, and they clearly did
Speaker 2: the messaging that the last three years have been a
Speaker 2: tear down and the rebuild begins now, I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: who are you fooling? Who do you think you're talking to?
Speaker 2: And you know what, Tony, that's an admission of a
Speaker 2: failure because you can break down look at what the
Speaker 2: Celtics have done this offseason.
Speaker 1: You can break down teams quickly.
Speaker 2: It like if you decide to move on from Gobert
Speaker 2: and Mitchell and Quinn and Dennis take off. Okay, fine,
Speaker 2: that's true that you bought the team. The man with
Speaker 2: the gold makes the rules. You bought the house. You
Speaker 2: can buy the furniture, I get it, but take all
Speaker 2: the furniture out of once and remodel. Don't take a
Speaker 2: couch out here and then decide you're gonna do the
Speaker 2: bedroom later, like get it done. And the fact that
Speaker 2: you claim that you were intentionally breaking it down for
Speaker 2: three years to start the rebuild now is a almost
Speaker 2: an embarrassing angle of messaging. Like the messaging messaging has
Speaker 2: been clunky. I just think you get on the same page. Okay,
Speaker 2: we made some mistakes, and I'm not talking about the
Speaker 2: yellow jerseys. I'm talking about your personnel. I don't give
Speaker 2: a rip about the laundry.
Speaker 4: That was embarrassing, but whatever, No, I don't I don't
Speaker 4: care about that anything, but just talking about what watch, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And then people are like, well, who's the blame? You know,
Speaker 1: who's the blame?
Speaker 3: Who is it?
Speaker 4: This guy is that that guy's I'm like, well, I'm
Speaker 4: not in their offices, I'm not in the meetings. I'm
Speaker 4: not I don't know the backstory. I don't know whose
Speaker 4: expectation and commitment level might have been skewed. I've got
Speaker 4: no idea, but I always use the same example. Some
Speaker 4: comedian used this one day. He's like, you know, I've
Speaker 4: never flown a helicopter in my life. I would never
Speaker 4: know how to fly a helicopter, So I'm not going
Speaker 4: to pretend like that I do. But if I see
Speaker 4: one in a tree, I know someone screwed up and
Speaker 4: I know something's gone wrong. So if you see we no, no, no,
Speaker 4: this is what we were doing, I don't believe you.
Speaker 4: And then and for you to be like, well, you
Speaker 4: weren't there, you didn't see what happened, It's like, no,
Speaker 4: I got it, but I saw what happened. And you
Speaker 4: can't tell me that everything's going according to plan when
Speaker 4: it looks like this, because it's not going according to plan.
Speaker 4: Now it might going forward, but just because it does
Speaker 4: going forward doesn't mean you can sell to me. Like
Speaker 4: quit trying to sell to me the last three years.
Speaker 4: Let's just let's own it and let's go. And I
Speaker 4: think that would actually do a lot of people a
Speaker 4: huge favor to just say, yeah, this didn't go as
Speaker 4: quickly or as methodically as we'd hoped. But here's what
Speaker 4: we do have a lot to work with going forward.
Speaker 4: We've got a brilliant mind. We just hired back in here.
Speaker 4: Now we've got a number of other people in place.
Speaker 4: I think this coaching staff is loaded and ready. By
Speaker 4: the way, you have two other two assistants on this
Speaker 4: staff who've been G League head coaches, who understand development.
Speaker 3: But here's the other thing. They know.
Speaker 4: They know exactly how to serve a head coach and
Speaker 4: to make his life a lot better. This is an
Speaker 4: outstanding move with that staff, outstanding move at the front office.
Speaker 4: Does Ace work out? That's a huge question, and you
Speaker 4: know that's all part of this. You're not going to
Speaker 4: pad a thousand. Hey, what made Reggie Jackson awesome was
Speaker 4: they struck out a ton.
Speaker 3: But men did. He had a bunch of home runs.
Speaker 4: Okay, yep, so you're going to strike out, but you
Speaker 4: can't match those strikeouts with singles. You got to hit
Speaker 4: some on the burrel too. So that's where this is
Speaker 4: going to be fun to watch this whole process.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 4: They last year they released a documentary they did on
Speaker 4: fifty years of the Utah Jazz YEP, and the early
Speaker 4: stuff was awesome, and then you get to the modern
Speaker 4: day stuff and it's like I'm watching Ryan Smith's you
Speaker 4: Jumpers in the qual tricks office answering questions.
Speaker 3: I'm like, what's going on? But the snapshot that kind of.
Speaker 4: Made me roll my eyes a little bit is Will
Speaker 4: Hardy looks at the camera. He's like, this is now
Speaker 4: your grandfather's Utah jazz. I'm like, okay, well, then who
Speaker 4: are you? That's like, okay, you're trying to shed yourself
Speaker 4: from a very successful thirty thirty five year run under
Speaker 4: you know, Saan Battiston, then the Miller Stewardship. I get
Speaker 4: that you're trying to do your own thing, but what
Speaker 4: is the thing, Because to your point, it's not the fable,
Speaker 4: there's nothing you can point to. Culture to me is
Speaker 4: always a real thing if you can be reductive and
Speaker 4: define it without getting lost in minutia. And I feel
Speaker 4: like that's all I get from them over there. It's
Speaker 4: different messaging from year to year, but whatever. One more
Speaker 4: jazz thing here though, because I have not had you
Speaker 4: on air, Tony since the passing of Frank Yeah, man,
Speaker 4: So you know, Frank was like a second father to me.
Speaker 4: I allocated my entire Monday show to him. With the
Speaker 4: help of Richard Smith.
Speaker 2: We had my father on, we had Scott Layden on,
Speaker 2: We had Rod McBride on. We've had a bunch of
Speaker 2: former Jazz staffers on to talk about Frank and Frank
Speaker 2: was part of a documentary the CASL did about the
Speaker 2: eighty three eighty four Jazz. It was the team that
Speaker 2: was like, okay, we might make it. We made the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Frank coach of the year, Executive of the year. You know,
Speaker 2: they draft John the draft car. Then away we go,
Speaker 2: And one of the snapshot moments was Frank saying there
Speaker 2: are no bad cities.
Speaker 3: There are only bad organizations, right.
Speaker 2: But mostly I wanted to get your take on your
Speaker 2: experience with him, because I can recall being to the
Speaker 2: ballpark oftentimes and it's time for the seventh inning stretch
Speaker 2: and you walk over there and Frank grabs the mic
Speaker 2: and away we go. So I know that you knew
Speaker 2: him well, Tony, So before we catch a break, your
Speaker 2: thoughts on the life and legacy of Frank Layton.
Speaker 3: Oh, it's personal. I mean that guy. A lot of
Speaker 3: people didn't know this well.
Speaker 4: My mom and I first came over here, and you know,
Speaker 4: i'd take care of myself at knights and stuff like that,
Speaker 4: and she would be working a lot of waitressing shifts
Speaker 4: and bartending shifts and all of that. And she worked
Speaker 4: at a place called Annabels, and one of her regulars
Speaker 4: with Barbara and Frank Layton, and she connected with them
Speaker 4: and they connected with her, and it was a really
Speaker 4: special thing. And man, they tipped well, and they were
Speaker 4: so generous and you know, so humble. The fact that
Speaker 4: Frank would admit, you know, it was when Jerry introduced
Speaker 4: a high pick and roll. That's when the theme in
Speaker 4: another level. And they weren't gonna do that with me.
Speaker 4: I just didn't have some of the acumen Jerry had
Speaker 4: to say that to be in the world of egotistical maniacs,
Speaker 4: for him to go on a show like Dazzling Dunks
Speaker 4: and Basketball Bloopers, to be able to make himself And
Speaker 4: by the way, I have a special message, Hi mom.
Speaker 4: What a beautiful tribute to his mother who passed away
Speaker 4: with during his childbirth. You know, like this guy just
Speaker 4: always found a beautiful way to weave in wonderful messages.
Speaker 4: Was incredibly supportive to me personally throughout so many things.
Speaker 4: I'll never forget all the conversations we had after the
Speaker 4: seventh inning stretch because that would be when I'm pretty
Speaker 4: much done. I would sit there with him for two
Speaker 4: and a half inches and Frank and Smitty and I
Speaker 4: would tell stories and laugh, and they were just wonderful messages,
Speaker 4: wonderful history. The stories he told me about Larry Miller,
Speaker 4: ways that the organization changed, that Larry changed.
Speaker 3: That goes like Larry a lot of credit.
Speaker 4: He took the lesson well and he formulated it and
Speaker 4: it turned into something beautiful. I mean, cornerstone moments. He
Speaker 4: took me behind the veil so many times. I'm like,
Speaker 4: no way. He's like, that's when it happened, you know,
Speaker 4: and he but he was. He was okay to own
Speaker 4: his own mistakes and.
Speaker 3: I was still better here. I need to let that go.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: Just wow, man, Like so we had and the guy
Speaker 4: was at Jackie Robinson's first game.
Speaker 3: The fact that he was like, yeah, he's writers who were.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, half the fans were him.
Speaker 3: It was Brooklyn. We were in the graded. Nobody cared,
Speaker 3: you're making it up.
Speaker 4: He's like, you know, Cleveland or Philly or Boston, sure,
Speaker 4: but this was Brooklyn. Everything about him was honesty, authenticity, true,
Speaker 4: genuine kind heart. And I'll never forget it as fast
Speaker 4: as I can wrap that up like he connected with
Speaker 4: my mom there.
Speaker 3: Many years later he and I become friends.
Speaker 4: Then all of a sudden, I introduced he and my
Speaker 4: mom back to each other, and it was like they
Speaker 4: picked up right where they left off. Yeah, fifty two
Speaker 4: minutes straight, a lot of Brooklyn in that room and
Speaker 4: they just went off.
Speaker 1: That's very cool, and I'm like, what's going on here?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 4: So He'll always be a dear friend of mine and
Speaker 4: big thanks to Smitty and also great job Scott lad
Speaker 4: and everybody at the service.
Speaker 3: It was special for sure.
Speaker 2: All Right, before we catch a break, Like any good coach,
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Speaker 3: Dave Fox and Studio.
Speaker 2: It was on TV with Dave last night ten thirty five. KMYU,
Speaker 2: we call it five Questions or Spence. Bill Ridley will
Speaker 2: stop by as well. Kurt Schmidt Tony Parks does some
Speaker 2: TV over on KMYU from time to time talking bees
Speaker 2: and Tony's live in studio for another segment.
Speaker 3: I always appreciate Tony's time.
Speaker 2: All Right, five wins for Utah football year one in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. It feels like, and this is a
Speaker 2: testament to coach wit. It feels like they are getting
Speaker 2: the benefit of the doubt from a lot of people
Speaker 2: as far as their ability to bounce back. Vegas has
Speaker 2: the over under for Utah wins at seven point five.
Speaker 2: If I give you eight wins for Utah football, would
Speaker 2: you take that as a successful season based off of
Speaker 2: expectations and the myriad of changes on the coaching staffs
Speaker 2: and with the personnel.
Speaker 4: If it's eight and you were contending for most of
Speaker 4: the year and your other four, you're looking at being
Speaker 4: right there. Sure, But if you're out classed and it's
Speaker 4: clear that there's a gap between you and anybody else
Speaker 4: who can contend for a playoff spot, no, So it's
Speaker 4: kind of weird. You know, you go eight and four,
Speaker 4: you're like, hey, would you take that? It's like, well,
Speaker 4: there's different kinds of eight and four. If you limp
Speaker 4: your way at eight and four because you beat up
Speaker 4: on teams that barely had a pulse, and you're like,
Speaker 4: but it was better than what we just did. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 4: improvement and sufficiency are two different things. So I think
Speaker 4: it really, to me depends on how they compete, how
Speaker 4: they contend. Last year really surprised me. I think it's
Speaker 4: also really eye opening that I think it was interesting.
Speaker 4: Last year was kind of the first season of a
Speaker 4: new era. I know the era started earlier, but it
Speaker 4: was the first season where it truly felt like all
Speaker 4: of college football moved into this new business, this new
Speaker 4: understanding about what it takes.
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying Utah wasn't willing to do what
Speaker 3: it takes.
Speaker 4: I'm saying that Utah was having to adjust to the
Speaker 4: way they do things, which they have certain things that
Speaker 4: they will not bend on and they shouldn't, and then
Speaker 4: also trying to adjust to the new era of college
Speaker 4: football all at once. You could see, like clearly like
Speaker 4: there's an adjustment there. One thing I know about Kyle Winningham,
Speaker 4: historically he's adjusted better than maybe any coach I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: With the new eras right, I mean, there was post
Speaker 4: urban social media PAC twelve, I mean everything COVID sadly
Speaker 4: death of players, right, like everything that's going on. So
Speaker 4: now it's not just the back twelve transition. It's this
Speaker 4: new era that exists in the world of what a
Speaker 4: player expects, how you manage player and personnel, everything that
Speaker 4: it comes with.
Speaker 3: Now it's very unique and different.
Speaker 2: It's a really good point because I do think there
Speaker 2: are and we all exist in our own echo chambers.
Speaker 9: Right.
Speaker 2: So when I say I feel like there are youth fans,
Speaker 2: I'm basically talking about the youth fans that are kind
Speaker 2: of in my ecosystem that I talk to and hear from,
Speaker 2: whether it's direct messages, social media, or just talking to
Speaker 2: people around town. I think there are legitimate questions that
Speaker 2: certain members of this fan base have as to whether
Speaker 2: or not this athletic department has efficiently you know, translated,
Speaker 2: or you know, kind of transitioned, I guess is the
Speaker 2: better way to say it into this new world of
Speaker 2: college athletics, because I think you put it well last year,
Speaker 2: did feel like, Okay, we now have had a couple
Speaker 2: of years of nil, We've had a couple of years
Speaker 2: of transfer portal, the seismic shifts in the landscapes of
Speaker 2: conferences appear to have settled for now. It's one of
Speaker 2: those things that's always permeating under the scenes that it
Speaker 2: could really manifest again at the drop of a hat.
Speaker 2: If there's anything we've learned about college football and college
Speaker 2: athletics over the past five years, as it has changed,
Speaker 2: is going to be constant. But last year felt like, Okay,
Speaker 2: PAC twelve's dead.
Speaker 3: We know the deal. Everyone's in the new conferences. We
Speaker 3: know the deal.
Speaker 2: Of course, there's still some shifting with the new PAC twelve,
Speaker 2: but the Big twelve is set. ACC is set Big ten,
Speaker 2: SEC all set P four conferences sets settled in.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: Now everybody has had ample time to adjust to what
Speaker 2: is now normal, And the fact that Utah won five
Speaker 2: games I think is probably permeating in people's minds with
Speaker 2: questions like, okay, is this is this athletic department doing
Speaker 2: what it has to do to compete at the highest
Speaker 2: of levels in this new era. So I feel like
Speaker 2: there's actually pressure on Utah football this year in a
Speaker 2: way that last year the pressure was we all thought
Speaker 2: they were gonna win the thing right. Last year the
Speaker 2: pressure was Vegas picked them to win the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: National Football Riders for the most part, picked them to
Speaker 2: win the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: Local media picked them to win the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: So the targets on your back last year is the
Speaker 2: team that we thought was gonna win it. That target
Speaker 2: is not on their back this year. There are there
Speaker 2: are some people that believe Utah will win the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: but it's not a consensus, not close. So to me,
Speaker 2: the target this year feels different. It's it's not Okay,
Speaker 2: you're the favorite, everyone's hunting you. It's you need to
Speaker 2: prove to this community, in this fan base. You're doing
Speaker 2: what you need to do to adjust to the new
Speaker 2: normal college football.
Speaker 3: Yeah, do you have the commitment to do what it takes.
Speaker 4: And Utah's teams have had great success and probably even
Speaker 4: overachieved at times without people knowing it because they weren't
Speaker 4: just talented and there was a great culture and all that.
Speaker 4: They could manage a program that was very devoted to
Speaker 4: the team, devoted to the culture and the cause. I
Speaker 4: think that's a very hard thing to do now in
Speaker 4: this era of college football. You're managing eighty different free agents,
Speaker 4: you're managing eighty different expectations. You could manage that before,
Speaker 4: but there was a very straight level of what it
Speaker 4: would take.
Speaker 3: To manage it.
Speaker 4: Now there's variables you can't measure, variables you can't underestimate,
Speaker 4: and by the way, variables. I don't envy any coach
Speaker 4: that have to manage in basketball or football in any way.
Speaker 4: I really think that this is something that anybody who
Speaker 4: tries to pretend they have a full grasp on it,
Speaker 4: they don't. And I think last year showed some programs
Speaker 4: really got to jump ahead to show an advantage that
Speaker 4: maybe people didn't know they had.
Speaker 3: Arizona State was one of those.
Speaker 4: We were like, Wow, they they really figured out how
Speaker 4: to do this in a way that the previous era
Speaker 4: they didn't have this kind of success, and so I
Speaker 4: think that's going to be eye opening on how they
Speaker 4: do it. I think BYU has great advantages in that
Speaker 4: I think Utah can have them.
Speaker 3: But now there's a different way.
Speaker 4: You almost have to completely you have to manage it
Speaker 4: like a pro sports team almost.
Speaker 1: And I can't say I have all the answers. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I don't.
Speaker 4: And I really feel for a guy in any coach
Speaker 4: in any situation that's been from the previous era now
Speaker 4: have an acclimate to this because so many of the
Speaker 4: things you may have to do were counterintuitive to what
Speaker 4: you've done before.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And the pressure also includes a community that is probably
Speaker 2: looking for improvement in order for them to up their investments.
Speaker 3: Oh that's where this is.
Speaker 2: All right, be a never ending thing and it's interesting, Tony, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, this is the time of year where we
Speaker 2: were in Dallas for Big twelve Media Day and then
Speaker 2: SEC in Atlanta.
Speaker 3: The Big Ten was in Vegas.
Speaker 2: I'm listening to all these coaches because I really I've
Speaker 2: always loved listening to coaches. I think coaches make the
Speaker 2: best color commentators on broadcasts, whether it's basketball, football, or baseball.
Speaker 2: All due respect to a lot of X players, some
Speaker 2: of them do a great job. All of my favorite
Speaker 2: color commentators in pro basketball have always been coaches. Loved
Speaker 2: Hubie Right, loved Van Gandhi. Obviously I loved how ESPN
Speaker 2: was like, we're firing Jeff because we're afraid he's going
Speaker 2: to take a coaching job, and we're hiring jj Reddick.
Speaker 3: Oh he's now with the Lakers. Like, good job, way
Speaker 3: to go.
Speaker 2: So I've always been fascinated in whenever I have an opportunity.
Speaker 2: If a coach is at a podium, I listen right
Speaker 2: and over the past four years, every time, whether it's
Speaker 2: Kyle or Klannie, and look, not every time if they're
Speaker 2: asked about a game, but if they're just addressing people,
Speaker 2: they are pleading with the community. We need investment from him.
Speaker 2: And it's a new ask. Whether it's UTAH or by
Speaker 2: U or LSU or whoever. It's no longer like we
Speaker 2: need you to buy season tickets, we need you to
Speaker 2: buy food and bev and merch. It's no we need
Speaker 2: you to donate to the collective. We need you to
Speaker 2: if you're a business owner, we need you to come
Speaker 2: up with creative ways to include these athletes. Like the
Speaker 2: ask of the community now is a much different thing
Speaker 2: on a much higher level. And if they win four
Speaker 2: or five games again this year, that's a bad omen.
Speaker 2: That's going to say to a lot of people, like
Speaker 2: are you ready to adjust to the new landscape of
Speaker 2: college football? So the bullseye last year was you're the favorite.
Speaker 2: The bulls eye this year is there's a community that's
Speaker 2: going wait a second, you're one in a new conference. Okay,
Speaker 2: we all thought you were going to be this and
Speaker 2: you're ultimately not right. So you got to show us
Speaker 2: that you're heading in the right direction and you know
Speaker 2: what you need to do to adjust.
Speaker 3: I think that's a real thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, last year you you had an athletic director walk
Speaker 4: on the field on the last play of the game
Speaker 4: to get after a referee. Why do you think you
Speaker 4: did that? Everyone's like, why are the emotions of the
Speaker 4: game and we've.
Speaker 8: All been there.
Speaker 4: No pressure. Pressure? Do you know how much pressure is there?
Speaker 4: People going, Chris, he'll never have these problems. Do you
Speaker 4: know how many people are blowing up that guy's phone
Speaker 4: every fifteen minutes. He's got to listen to something and
Speaker 4: it's exhausting his time, and he's going, Guys, I'm trying
Speaker 4: to figure this out. Just let me do my job, right.
Speaker 4: I'm not even saying I agree with his behavior. I'm
Speaker 4: saying he's feeling pressure. It didn't come from the fact
Speaker 4: that he just can't handle the rivalry and he just
Speaker 4: wants to win so bad. No, he wants to win,
Speaker 4: but he's also trying to manage so many different things
Speaker 4: in an era that has never really been experienced before,
Speaker 4: and it's never been a part of his experience.
Speaker 3: Of the coaches experience.
Speaker 4: Everybody's trying to figure it out, and the year didn't
Speaker 4: go as well as they wanted.
Speaker 3: And you know what really would have saved the whole
Speaker 3: dang thing, beating BYU.
Speaker 1: It'd have been like, hey, I got it, just give.
Speaker 3: Us some time here. And they thought they had it
Speaker 3: and then it went away.
Speaker 4: And the whole entire time, he's feeling it because he
Speaker 4: knows what the phone calls are going to be like.
Speaker 4: He knows what that lunch is going to be like.
Speaker 4: When he's sitting there rolling and the going I got it.
Speaker 4: I hear you from people who don't get it, by
Speaker 4: the way, but yet he needs them to write two
Speaker 4: Comma checks up and then he needs like this this
Speaker 4: is I'm just explaining my perception of what I think happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't do that.
Speaker 4: I mean, the first thing I thought to myself when
Speaker 4: I saw that wasn't what an idiot that.
Speaker 1: It's all about him?
Speaker 4: Huh.
Speaker 3: You don't think the players.
Speaker 8: Want to win?
Speaker 4: No, it's pressure, unbelievable amounts of pressure. I think I
Speaker 4: told you this. After the game, I'm walking home and
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, my phone just goes oh yeah, like,
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 3: No idea this taxt phone calls. You know.
Speaker 2: I stuck around for the game after I went over
Speaker 2: to say hi to Colanie and a Rod because those
Speaker 2: are my guys. Congratulations whatever, you know, kind of get
Speaker 2: the feel of what everything was like. And so instead
Speaker 2: of going to the pressure, I'm like, I'll watch you
Speaker 2: when I get home. Boom, phone call after phone call?
Speaker 2: Are you listening to Mark Harlan?
Speaker 3: Text after text? Did you hear what Mark just said?
Speaker 2: And then somebody sent me because in the modern day
Speaker 2: and age of social media, it's up on you know,
Speaker 2: social like that, somebody sent me the video and I
Speaker 2: was unaware at the time that he had got on
Speaker 2: the field.
Speaker 1: Didn't see that because I was actually down on the
Speaker 1: south end.
Speaker 2: Zone, so I did not have the view of Mark
Speaker 2: actually going out on the field. And I watched the video,
Speaker 2: I went, oh, my goodness, and just picture brett yor
Speaker 2: Mark waking up, going like, Okay, really, dude, you're not
Speaker 2: happy to be part of this conference?
Speaker 3: Good luck, bro.
Speaker 2: Like I actually was concerned because I like Mark. Mark's
Speaker 2: been good to me. This is not an anti market
Speaker 2: every time I've met it. I'm just giving a glimpse
Speaker 2: into this is a new area. No, I want to
Speaker 2: be clear, and I said the next day, my guess
Speaker 2: is Mark wants to do over there, and we all
Speaker 2: need do overs in life. He probably want a moment,
Speaker 2: probably wants them all again. Let's let's give them the
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3: Totally.
Speaker 2: I believe people deserve grace for things done via emotion. Okay,
Speaker 2: so I'm not raking him over the coals, but I
Speaker 2: was concerned that Brett yor Mark Northeast, don't mess with me, dude,
Speaker 2: swim with the fishes was going to come down much
Speaker 2: harder on Mark than he did.
Speaker 3: But I think you bring a good point.
Speaker 2: It's a microcosm of the pressure that is involved right now,
Speaker 2: which makes this season Tony very interesting to cover from
Speaker 2: the perspective of Utah football because the other thing that
Speaker 2: has to be mentioned is the momentum in a lot
Speaker 2: of ways has shifted about forty miles down south.
Speaker 3: Utah.
Speaker 2: Not just the football program, but the athletic department had
Speaker 2: about a twelve year ish run of clear momentum, not
Speaker 2: just results. It was a generation of Utah football dominance
Speaker 2: over Brigham Young. The numbers bear that out, but Also,
Speaker 2: there was this weird five six year period where Chase Hansen,
Speaker 2: who played his high school football in BYU's backyard, comes
Speaker 2: to Utah. Britten Covey, whose family name is on twenty
Speaker 2: buildings in Provo, is a youth. There was this weird
Speaker 2: kind of era where the momentum was up here and
Speaker 2: BYU fans can get mad at that all you want,
Speaker 2: but it is true. The data shows the n Everything
Speaker 2: shows it now. We have to be honest, whether it's basketball,
Speaker 2: certainly with what Kevin Young is built down there a
Speaker 2: team that could make the Final Four this year, and
Speaker 2: an eleven win season a year ago in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: A top twenty five recruiting class next year for BYU
Speaker 2: on the football side of things, the best recruiting class
Speaker 2: they've ever had. There's a feeling, and I don't think
Speaker 2: it's just a feeling, because feelings aren't facts, but there's
Speaker 2: a feeling that's backed up by a lot of data
Speaker 2: that the momentum is now down there right. Another question
Speaker 2: that Utah has to answer I think this year is
Speaker 2: are you keeping up with your rival the way you
Speaker 2: need to be keeping up with them? Well, the one
Speaker 2: thing that I think really helped them in that PAC
Speaker 2: twelve early era five and seven. You know, well, it's
Speaker 2: patients and you need the depth to be and the
Speaker 2: PAC twelve, and it was true, but the patience was
Speaker 2: easier when you beat.
Speaker 3: BYU both those years. Yep, it just once.
Speaker 4: And by the way, that's not just to this rivalry,
Speaker 4: that's say any rivalry that'll happen. John Cooper went to
Speaker 4: Rose Bowls and was unbelievable. Couldn't beat Michigan out as
Speaker 4: simple as that. If they had expanded to a twelve
Speaker 4: team playoff, he might have won to Natty's I'm not kidding,
Speaker 4: but they didn't. And that's when it was almost single
Speaker 4: elimination and so he couldn't even survive. And they brought
Speaker 4: it up about Team GPA, which we all knew was
Speaker 4: a lie. So anyway, in this situation here, no that
Speaker 4: it goes without even saying that. When this new era
Speaker 4: came around, I remember people saying, well, the.
Speaker 3: Richard just gonna get rich.
Speaker 4: I said, hold on, there are some programs now that
Speaker 4: are really going to have a real chance more than
Speaker 4: they did before.
Speaker 3: Michigan was one of them.
Speaker 4: You're going to see some other SEC teams that maybe
Speaker 4: not had been household names before that could start to
Speaker 4: rise up a little bit moreas a place like Arizona State.
Speaker 4: The reason why is now because instead of Alabama having
Speaker 4: the three best left tackles, now they have the very
Speaker 4: best and the other two went somewhere else. So now
Speaker 4: the depth gets spread out a little bit more. Plus,
Speaker 4: the program that can organize funds the right way and
Speaker 4: organize their program the right way to go into aligning
Speaker 4: the individual's success and prosperity with the programs. The one
Speaker 4: that knows how to manage it like a pro sports
Speaker 4: team best is going to have a leg up on
Speaker 4: the other. The one thing with BYU that I think
Speaker 4: is an enormous advantage is you have those who are, well,
Speaker 4: i'll put money in it if this or that happens,
Speaker 4: and then you have those who are like, well, I'm
Speaker 4: just putting money into it anyway because i just want
Speaker 4: to be a part of the programs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: So there's a guy who plays with the Bees. His
Speaker 4: name is Nico Cavadas. He played with Notre Dame and
Speaker 4: he and I've talked about this about the way Notre
Speaker 4: Dame has it. He's like, dude, there, guys, they'll just
Speaker 4: do anything, just do anything, just to stand in the room,
Speaker 4: just to I mean, they'll pay any amount of money,
Speaker 4: blank check, whatever. And so Notre Dame is always going
Speaker 4: to be like in the playoffs, They'll be in the
Speaker 4: picture every year BYU. And I'm not going to say
Speaker 4: they're the same thing, but they do have some similarity
Speaker 4: with the number of people who will just pour the
Speaker 4: money in. Yeah, and it'll give BYU a little more
Speaker 4: flexibility to course correct when they're not quite right. They
Speaker 4: have a little more flexibility to course correct. Utah, I
Speaker 4: don't think has as much room for air in this
Speaker 4: next stretch.
Speaker 3: I perceive that at least.
Speaker 2: You know, in an interesting way.
Speaker 3: And I'm just this is just kind of donning on
Speaker 3: me in real time.
Speaker 2: The religious tie to both Notre Dame and by U
Speaker 2: in this dynamic is hugely beneficial because you know, there are.
Speaker 3: So many religious people.
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying this in a derogatory way that
Speaker 2: just it's blind faith. It's I'm a believer, I'm all in.
Speaker 2: There's nothing that would ever happen. I am ten toes
Speaker 2: down with this religion, and my religion owns this institution.
Speaker 2: And if I help this institution. I forward the message.
Speaker 2: How much money do you need?
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Oh, they're Nico told me there are people at Notre
Speaker 4: Dame that would just do whatever it takes.
Speaker 2: I am a Catholic, I love the Catholic Church. What
Speaker 2: do I need to do to further the message of
Speaker 2: the Catholic Church? Does that mean Notre Dame football needs
Speaker 2: to be good?
Speaker 4: Okay? Great, I'm a business owner. Here's twenty million dollars. Yes,
Speaker 4: do you need my private plane?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 3: Whatever?
Speaker 2: Resource an interesting dynamics to consider it. I'm right, wrong
Speaker 2: or indifferent, it's just part of the deal.
Speaker 1: Does this player need a country club membership?
Speaker 3: Does this play player one? I'm not kidding.
Speaker 4: They'll they'll go to and and it's not even an insult.
Speaker 4: It's just it's their passion, it's their money. This is
Speaker 4: the way they want to spend it. And you get
Speaker 4: the right number of people who want to pour money
Speaker 4: into it. Even if it's Ryan Smith, there's supportive of
Speaker 4: b what right like and people are going, well, that's
Speaker 4: not right, No, it's his money. That's the way this
Speaker 4: era is right now. Yeah, And the messaging is like, okay,
Speaker 4: so you're telling me that if we get ajdbantsa, we
Speaker 4: play yukon of the Garden in November, and so suddenly
Speaker 4: millions of people are exposed to BYU and therefore, by proxy,
Speaker 4: they're exposed to the church I love.
Speaker 3: Here's my money. There you go. It's really interesting to
Speaker 3: consider you man.
Speaker 4: Well, when this first came out, I was like, BYU basketball,
Speaker 4: I thought I was shocked that they weren't better earlier
Speaker 4: in this era.
Speaker 3: And I kept telling you that.
Speaker 4: And now with the way they've lined it up with
Speaker 4: the coach, with the funds, now you just need it
Speaker 4: to come together in terms of performance. Now it's how
Speaker 4: you manage it. But they have the resources they need
Speaker 4: because fewer players, but you just need the few stars
Speaker 4: who really shine and you're gonna get what you need there.
Speaker 4: And then with football it's spread out a little bit more.
Speaker 4: So you got to go in on quarterback. You know,
Speaker 4: some skill position, key defensive players. But by you will
Speaker 4: have the chance to make that happen. That's why you
Speaker 4: know when you see the situation. Obviously with you know,
Speaker 4: an offseason that involves players switching and things like that's
Speaker 4: gonna happen a little more often. It's why I've told you,
Speaker 4: and I came on the show as a guest one
Speaker 4: time and said we need to make it okay for
Speaker 4: them to say I got a better offer. I'm sorry,
Speaker 4: I got a better offer, and I'm going to BYU
Speaker 4: or I'm going here or I'm going there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, one more thing, toe it. I'll set you loose.
Speaker 2: DraftKings over under BYU eight point five, Utah seven point five. Oh,
Speaker 2: So what do you think successful year for BYU? If
Speaker 2: I gave you nine, do you take that new quarterback
Speaker 2: and such?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think nine. Gosh, if you got nine, I
Speaker 4: think that'd be really great. The fact that you still
Speaker 4: have so many good things happening, and they do have
Speaker 4: a lot of talent.
Speaker 3: That's great.
Speaker 4: Anytime you go in with a new quarterback, it's college
Speaker 4: football with a new quarterback and you hung player. There's
Speaker 4: a lot of complexities with that. So nine, I think
Speaker 4: you would definitely take that.
Speaker 3: Eight.
Speaker 4: I think if you're a ute fan, like I said,
Speaker 4: if you're eight and you're truly contending and you're not
Speaker 4: showing this massive gap between you and the rest who
Speaker 4: are competing for a Big twelve title, then I think
Speaker 4: that's great.
Speaker 3: Great to see my friend man all right, the Great
Speaker 3: Parks Boys.
Speaker 2: William Riley, better known as Bill, we'll join the program
Speaker 2: at four o'clock today. Kurt Schmidt, RSL's chief decision maker,
Speaker 2: will join us at four thirty. RSL plays tonight, and
Speaker 2: we are going to see their new designated player, Rwan
Speaker 2: Cruz got his work visa this morning, so we'll see
Speaker 2: Rowan tonight.
Speaker 3: Joining me live in studio.
Speaker 4: Looking very casual today for a change, is my friend
Speaker 4: Dave Fox.
Speaker 3: Hello, Dave, how are you? Are you good? It's fun
Speaker 3: to be casual.
Speaker 2: I'd have to put on a suit, little T shirt
Speaker 2: and shorts my favorite part of the job. Porter and
Speaker 2: I are in pajamas every day. Although you do have
Speaker 2: the little webcams. He probably you don't care. No, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't any money from that. Start paying me up
Speaker 2: from YouTube. I'll put on a suit. Okay, well maybe
Speaker 2: you could get a deal, get you know what. You
Speaker 2: know how I'll bed paying Roan. Yeah, they they're not
Speaker 2: answering our phone calls anymore. Unfortunately they don't advertise is
Speaker 2: on the station. But Porter and I are only wearing
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Speaker 4: That's the only shorts that are next level great. They
Speaker 4: built a great company and proud brothers. Ye are you
Speaker 4: joining us straight off the lake?
Speaker 1: No, I'm i'm uh. Let me explain.
Speaker 2: I you know, high school football starts next week. You
Speaker 2: don't care about high school football, but it starts next week.
Speaker 2: We do two games a week, well the week before,
Speaker 2: so tonight and tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: Get this. We do media knights, two of them.
Speaker 2: We do one at Lee High for all the southern teams,
Speaker 2: want at Farmington for the northern teams. And we invite
Speaker 2: every team that's going to be on our air to send,
Speaker 2: you know, like half a dozen players, and then we
Speaker 2: just do various media things with him.
Speaker 1: And that's why I'm dressed like.
Speaker 3: This, Hi, bud.
Speaker 2: And okay, so wait, you're dressed like that because you
Speaker 2: don't have to be in front of the camera right right, right,
Speaker 2: right right right? So how does it feel to be
Speaker 2: Duke is licking you? Duke is a friendly pop, Duke
Speaker 2: likes to come. Are you a dog owner?
Speaker 3: No? Okay? Do you do you like dogs?
Speaker 1: It depends. He's a good dog.
Speaker 3: Oh he's the best.
Speaker 2: But I'm not like you know, no, I don't well,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to say about that. I don't
Speaker 2: hate dogs, but we haven't had a dog in many,
Speaker 2: many years. We had a dog.
Speaker 3: It was great. Says a lot about you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're casual because you're not gonna be in
Speaker 2: front of the camera. You're just gonna be behind the
Speaker 2: camera exploiting children. I'm gonna be down the football field
Speaker 2: with Adam Mikolitch and Jake Edmonds and a couple of
Speaker 2: other guys from the station that are helping shoot all
Speaker 2: these elements, and I just kind of help orchestrate the
Speaker 2: whole thing, move the teams around. So, okay, you guys
Speaker 2: are over here, you guys are here, and so it's
Speaker 2: just casual. I'm just wearing a hat and a T
Speaker 2: shirt because it's a hundred degrees. And do you feel
Speaker 2: bad that potentially that you're feeding into unnecessary egos of
Speaker 2: fifteen and sixteen year olds where they're dance in front
Speaker 2: of a camera before it's like they're in the NFL,
Speaker 2: not even a little bit. It's awesome. It's all part
Speaker 2: of the jar of sports.
Speaker 3: They love it. Who's going to be good this year
Speaker 3: in high school football?
Speaker 2: Well, let me ask corner can corner can Well, you
Speaker 2: know what the High School Association did they finally put
Speaker 2: the absolute best teams, which are Skyridge Lee, High Loan
Speaker 2: Peak in their own region. American Forks also in there.
Speaker 2: But those four are going to be incredible. I'd say
Speaker 2: Corner Canyon Lee, High Loan Peak especially, and really all
Speaker 2: of them so good that in fact, in the last
Speaker 2: month of the season, every week we have a matchup
Speaker 2: of two of those teams on at some point. I
Speaker 2: think in the last four or five weeks, each of
Speaker 2: those teams is on three times. So all of that,
Speaker 2: that's how good it is. All of them are down South. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're all in that same general area. They're so good.
Speaker 2: Huh Yeah. How are my Braves this year? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: with you on the Braves if any say, champs been
Speaker 2: to the championship game two years in a row, but
Speaker 2: a little bit of rebuilding. Emerson Guileman, their terrific quarterback
Speaker 2: is at Byu. I've actually seen him and said, you know,
Speaker 2: by use that three horse race. But Emerson's in there,
Speaker 2: you know, throwing the football as well with him, and
Speaker 2: I think he's got a decent future down there. But
Speaker 2: they they graduated a lot, so it's going to be
Speaker 2: a little more of a challenge this year, but I'm
Speaker 2: excited for My grandson plays for him, so I'm very excited.
Speaker 2: What position he actually it's he's a quarterback and he's
Speaker 2: in the same They're in the exact same position as BYU.
Speaker 1: Three guys all vying for the starting quarterback position.
Speaker 2: You have a grandson that's old enough to be playing
Speaker 2: high school football.
Speaker 1: I have a grandson on an LDS mission his older brother.
Speaker 3: So whose kid is this?
Speaker 2: This is Lauren and Casey's shout out Lauren, case And
Speaker 2: what's your grandson's name?
Speaker 3: Madden?
Speaker 4: Shout out Madden. Oh wow, set up to be a
Speaker 4: football player.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like, how about this Madden plays football for
Speaker 2: Bountiful and his younger sister, Kendall, is a cheerleader for
Speaker 2: woods Cross. Family mom's moms dividing up her time everywhere
Speaker 2: some family beef.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, wait wait wait these.
Speaker 3: Are siblings from the same family. Yeah, I have so
Speaker 3: many questions. That's no big deal.
Speaker 2: That's he chose to play football Bountiful and she chose
Speaker 2: to stay in woods Cross with her friends. Okay, maybe
Speaker 2: I'm old, but what happened to boundaries? Like when I
Speaker 2: was growing up. D you live, so you go to
Speaker 2: this school.
Speaker 1: That Why do you think those four teams we talked
Speaker 1: about are all so good?
Speaker 8: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, are we talking of tampering? Are we talking?
Speaker 1: I don't tampering? But you know the portals alive?
Speaker 2: And well, who's the most dishonest program in this Oh,
Speaker 2: there isn't a dishonest No, who's the one? Okay, who's
Speaker 2: the one that everybody else is like? Oh, they're the coach?
Speaker 2: There he goes again, he poasted another player.
Speaker 3: Who's the one.
Speaker 2: There's there's plenty of teams that take full advantage of
Speaker 2: kids that want to play. It's corner Canyon, isn't I know?
Speaker 2: Eric here is a great guy, great coach, town of guy.
Speaker 2: He also coaches track and field, by the way. Oh okay,
Speaker 2: And they're all they're all good guys down there, Barb
Speaker 2: brock Bank at Loan Peak, they're all justin Hammett Skyridge,
Speaker 2: They're they're all really good. There's got to be one
Speaker 2: coach that everyone's mad at all the time. Porter, do
Speaker 2: you know the answer to this question?
Speaker 4: Dave has to work with all these people, we do
Speaker 4: not who's the one program that paches.
Speaker 1: Well, it was kind of the Corner Canyon.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, you could go way back to the nineties
Speaker 2: when Skyline was doing it.
Speaker 6: It's always been a thing, but I think I think
Speaker 6: it became like a little bit more known that it
Speaker 6: was happening. Canyon was new at the same time, all
Speaker 6: of a sudden they were good and putting a quarterback in.
Speaker 1: The NFL Draft every couple of years.
Speaker 2: That the kid having to move into their boundaries and really,
Speaker 2: oh wait, so boundaries are a thing. I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: if you are in the boundaries that then it's easy.
Speaker 1: If you're not, it's a little more challenging. So the
Speaker 1: answers Corner Canyon.
Speaker 2: All right, moving on, I'm gonna ask you the question
Speaker 2: we've been discussing. Okay, okay, uh, Vegas over underwins, shout
Speaker 2: out Corner Canyon. My brother's kids are my nieces and
Speaker 2: nephews are going to go to Corner Canyon when they're
Speaker 2: old enough. I have them this year against Liberty, Arizona,
Speaker 2: two state champions.
Speaker 3: So how about that.
Speaker 2: That's yeah, So Vegas over underwins for the UT is
Speaker 2: seven point five.
Speaker 3: Uh huh okay uh.
Speaker 2: DraftKings Sportsbook for b yu is eight point five successful
Speaker 2: season for Utah football. Dave season year two in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve, in your opinion, looks like what, well more
Speaker 2: than seven point five, I'll tell you that much, and
Speaker 2: partially because of all the hype.
Speaker 1: Now, hang on a second.
Speaker 2: If we go back a year ago and Cam Rising
Speaker 2: stays healthy the entire season, who knows what kind of
Speaker 2: I mean what they had four losses that were by
Speaker 2: a single score. If you know, if they win those,
Speaker 2: then it's a whole different story. So health always is
Speaker 2: at the top of the list. But assuming everything stays healthy,
Speaker 2: I think success is over that.
Speaker 1: And a lot of.
Speaker 2: It's just because so much, I mean, from springball on
Speaker 2: everyone has been talking about the excitement of this new
Speaker 2: offense and Dampier and what he's going to bring, and
Speaker 2: even coach Winningham has alluded to the incredible offensive line.
Speaker 2: So I'm not saying it's their fault, but it kind
Speaker 2: of is. They put themselves in a position where everyone's
Speaker 2: really excited to see this team be successful, and I
Speaker 2: think anything less I mean, I mean, I'm not into
Speaker 2: the point five, but let's say eight plus.
Speaker 3: That's what it's got to be.
Speaker 2: Well, the good news is the point five is impossible.
Speaker 2: It's just how they said lines. Now they go, if
Speaker 2: I gave you eight wins for Utah, do you take
Speaker 2: you say, Okay, successful Sea, But.
Speaker 1: I think they'll go over. I'll put them at nine.
Speaker 2: See it's interesting because I'm going to disagree with you
Speaker 2: a little bit. I don't think there are audacious expectations
Speaker 2: around the Utah football program like there were a year ago.
Speaker 4: Last year it felt like the hype train was really
Speaker 4: going down the track.
Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't just us locally Vegas picks them
Speaker 2: to win the Big Twelve a year ago, not all,
Speaker 2: but most of the national media, including most of the
Speaker 2: big dogs, like Utah is the favorite, and then it's
Speaker 2: like k State, Oklahoma State, whatever. It's wild how this
Speaker 2: conference was flipped on its head last year, juxtaposed to
Speaker 2: who we expected to win and who we expected to
Speaker 2: be bad. Arizona State BYU picked near the bottom, and
Speaker 2: they both had great years. But this year, I don't
Speaker 2: think the hype train is where the pressure is. Where
Speaker 2: I think the pressure lies is proving to the community
Speaker 2: that you've adjusted the right way to the new normal
Speaker 2: of college football. Like last year was the first year
Speaker 2: where we didn't have a seismic shift with conferences.
Speaker 3: Everyone's in the conference.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously the PAC twelve is different, but the
Speaker 2: P four conferences were settled. We had four, you know,
Speaker 2: three four years of transfer portal and nil. Now the
Speaker 2: house b NCAA has passed. You're paying these kids. I
Speaker 2: think there are questions that people have, like as you
Speaker 2: taught football adjusted to the new normal of what college
Speaker 2: football demands now. I asked you yesterday and five questions
Speaker 2: with Spence. You just mentioned pressure, So I'm gonna circle
Speaker 2: back to that. Who's under the most pressure? Is it
Speaker 2: the coach, Kyle Whningham, Is it your offensive coordinator beck?
Speaker 2: Is it your quarterback damp here? And you said it's
Speaker 2: Dans Devin. Yeah, yeah, you totally felt like and in
Speaker 2: a lot of respects, I agree with you on that.
Speaker 2: You're right about wit He's his legacy is Cemanty. Kyle
Speaker 2: doesn't have anything approve to anybody. But I mean they
Speaker 2: could win zero games and Kyle still Kyle having said that,
Speaker 2: I still okay, So we'll agree to disagree on this.
Speaker 2: I think maybe the the media high training isn't there,
Speaker 2: but just sense that the ute nation high train is
Speaker 2: that and they're expecting means yes, this is for sure
Speaker 2: expecting to be a big bounce bounce back year and
Speaker 2: that's why. And you're circling back to your original question
Speaker 2: what looks like success? Well, usually the fans are the
Speaker 2: ones that really gauge success, and they're gonna want to
Speaker 2: see eight nine wins.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but fans don't. Fans are idiots. They don't know.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, just ask me what looks like success,
Speaker 2: and I think that's what looks like. But if you're
Speaker 2: telling me that like dudes on college football message boards
Speaker 2: are driving the hype train, Okay, go ahead, because they
Speaker 2: don't have a life like that's all they care about
Speaker 2: is where their.
Speaker 3: College is still out there.
Speaker 2: But I don't how many media members have you seen
Speaker 2: pick Utah to win the conference that? The answer is
Speaker 2: not zero, but it's not many, not a ton, and
Speaker 2: last year was everybody. And it's kind of all over
Speaker 2: the place too. There are some polls that have Utah
Speaker 2: higher than BYU, and some have BYU. Well, that coach's
Speaker 2: poll that just came out that none of the coaches
Speaker 2: actually vote on, as you pointed out yesterday, have BYU
Speaker 2: higher and utes not even rank so, but I'm just
Speaker 2: my answer to your question.
Speaker 1: That's what I believe it is.
Speaker 2: And I think the fact that they will not have
Speaker 2: this massive target on their back as their prohibitive favorites.
Speaker 4: I think Kyle likes that. I think he likes, you know, totally.
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I don't think he ever loves because
Speaker 2: once you if you go back to a year ago
Speaker 2: when everyone said they were going to win the championship,
Speaker 2: now you have to every week explain to your guys
Speaker 2: why that doesn't mean anything, and you have to have
Speaker 2: a conversation that you just don't want to have to
Speaker 2: waste time having. You just want them to go out
Speaker 2: and play and do their thing. Now he doesn't have
Speaker 2: to deal.
Speaker 3: With that well.
Speaker 2: And also, once upon a time you had to insulate
Speaker 2: your players from like two daily periodicals and Talk in
Speaker 2: Sports with Dave Fox.
Speaker 4: Right now now.
Speaker 2: At halftime, these kids go into the locker room and
Speaker 2: pull up their phone and see tweets, and so you
Speaker 2: cannot insulate them from expectation. And so last year, all
Speaker 2: these players are reading about the projections and the prognostications,
Speaker 2: and when you're an eighteen, nineteen twenty year old kid,
Speaker 2: pressure is going to inevitably affect you in a way
Speaker 2: that it doesn't affect you when you're a fully grown adult.
Speaker 2: If you feel like everyone is expecting you to win
Speaker 2: the conference and win every week, that's got a way
Speaker 2: on you. So the fact that now you can fire
Speaker 2: up your phone and it's like, oh, yeah, we're picked forth
Speaker 2: or fifth, I actually think that's a nice way to
Speaker 2: provide some motivation. And you know what, by that rationale,
Speaker 2: then you're essentially saying you're picked to go bowling.
Speaker 1: But going bowling nowadays doesn't mean a whole lot.
Speaker 2: Now with six games and you're bowling, So is that
Speaker 2: a level of success, Well, it'd be more successful than
Speaker 2: last year. But I just I think there are a
Speaker 2: lot of there's a lot of hype out there that
Speaker 2: wants more.
Speaker 3: Wants more, for sure.
Speaker 4: I just think it's a little bit of a different
Speaker 4: dynamic when you're picked as the favorite.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right, and then you know the pressure.
Speaker 2: But look, Dave, I do think there's a different sort
Speaker 2: of pressure on the program this year to prove to
Speaker 2: people in this community that are being asked to invest
Speaker 2: in a different way on a different level. It used
Speaker 2: to be Yeah, by season tickets. You know, if you're
Speaker 2: a if you're in a lum and you've been able
Speaker 2: to make some money, yeah, please donate.
Speaker 3: We need boosters.
Speaker 9: Now.
Speaker 2: It's like, donate to the collective by season tickets. Okay,
Speaker 2: we have this round of fundraising that we're gonna do
Speaker 2: to make sure that we can have NIL at a
Speaker 2: certain level. Like if you're going to ask a community
Speaker 2: to open up their pocketbooks, you have to show them
Speaker 2: that your football program is ready to compete at a
Speaker 2: high level. And by the way, we're raising the prices
Speaker 2: on our tickets. But wait, you only won five games
Speaker 2: here last year. Yeah, we know, we're still raising our
Speaker 2: price right right.
Speaker 3: So there you go.
Speaker 2: I know you got to get out of here. So
Speaker 2: let me ask you about YU. Do you have a
Speaker 2: feel at all who's going to be under center?
Speaker 1: I just keep feeling like it's Hillstead.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think I agree with that.
Speaker 2: It just I think he's got a little bit more
Speaker 2: of the experience. I was talking to somebody of the
Speaker 2: station yesterday. They're like, how come they're wearing green vest
Speaker 2: instead of red? And I'm like, you don't know a
Speaker 2: lot about the rivalry, do you. Yeah, that's how it
Speaker 2: works down there. It's the blue zone and stop the
Speaker 2: red zone. I'm getting tired of seeing a quarterback in
Speaker 2: number forty seven, But that's okay. They're young, Yeah, can
Speaker 2: give a man like number twelve or something. But I
Speaker 2: liked him by the way. I like them as well.
Speaker 3: He has measurables that the other two don't. He's big.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they just ran out of quarterback
Speaker 2: numbers in the Green vest or if he's really gonna
Speaker 2: wear forty seven.
Speaker 4: We had we had Spencer Letnn from y U t
Speaker 4: V yesterday he said that's the number he wants to wear.
Speaker 3: He wants to wear.
Speaker 1: When that and nowadays you can.
Speaker 2: I guess he was running back in high school and
Speaker 2: that was the number he wore, So that's gonna be.
Speaker 3: He wants to stick with forty seven.
Speaker 2: Fine, but I really believe if if you know, I
Speaker 2: think it's hillsted. I don't even think base that on
Speaker 2: other than I just feel like he is the most
Speaker 2: prepared And what a great job Kilani has done talking
Speaker 2: to all his guys who he knows are gonna be questioned, like.
Speaker 3: Who was who's the receiver that was available yesterday? Chase?
Speaker 2: It was Chase, and even he was like, you know,
Speaker 2: because what do people ask, well, is anyone what does
Speaker 2: one do different than the other?
Speaker 3: And they're all the same.
Speaker 2: We catch a ball and then I'll look back and say,
Speaker 2: oh he threw that, you know, because you can't tell. Well,
Speaker 2: I don't think we all believe that necessarily, but man,
Speaker 2: do they toll the line properly? And Kalani's saying the
Speaker 2: same thing. Every one of them is doing great stuff.
Speaker 2: It's going to be hard, and we asked them to
Speaker 2: make a hard honest and they are making a hard honest.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, I think he'll
Speaker 1: stead will be the guy.
Speaker 3: Do you think they know?
Speaker 1: I think they know.
Speaker 2: I've got to imagine they at least have a yeah,
Speaker 2: probably have a feeling. You would figure that once you
Speaker 2: get to game week, the number one would get the
Speaker 2: majority of the reps. And I don't know how, Like
Speaker 2: somebody was saying that yesterday, Well maybe they won't announce
Speaker 2: it until game day, And I'm not sure you could
Speaker 2: go that far because the on game week isn't that
Speaker 2: the way it always is? The number one gets the
Speaker 2: majority of the reps. So that's gonna be a little tricky,
Speaker 2: but I don't know. He tries to say that last
Speaker 2: year was that there was a quarterback battle. I don't
Speaker 2: think there really was. Well, I mean technically they claimed
Speaker 2: there was between the Bahannon kid and Jake, and then
Speaker 2: the year before that was Jaron Hall and then Zach.
Speaker 3: There was a Zach Wilson or Mangum.
Speaker 2: Y're like, they've been through QB battles before, and I
Speaker 2: think Klanie and a Rout have shown that they usually
Speaker 2: make the right choice. I have to imagine they have
Speaker 2: a leen and the other nice things. They open up
Speaker 2: against Portland State, so whatever, you know, Really their first
Speaker 2: three aren't bad. Stanford for the second week, that's a
Speaker 2: program that's in a little trouble right now. They've got
Speaker 2: interim coach Frank Braik Andrew Luck has taken over as
Speaker 2: the GM.
Speaker 3: But we'll see.
Speaker 2: I know you got to go, yep, thanks for having
Speaker 2: to see you, Dave. Okay high school football next week.
Speaker 8: Love it?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well you need.
Speaker 2: It's the purest form of athletic amateurism. Let's just remember
Speaker 2: what he said about Corner Canyon. I was your mics off.
Speaker 3: Oh no, oh no.
Speaker 2: He's saying that he loves corner canyon. Okay, bye, Dave,
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Speaker 7: Detouring your way through Sugarhouse, Fiddler's is easily accessible from
Speaker 7: eleventh East with free parking. Now open for lunch and
Speaker 7: dinner daily with Sunday brunch and awesome late night eats.
Speaker 7: Come and wind and enjoy the game with a cold
Speaker 7: one at Fiddler's. Sugarhouse is neighborhood sports bar.
Speaker 3: Must be twenty one to enter Hive.
Speaker 4: In the Voice of the Utes, Jill Riley joins us
Speaker 4: in the four o'clock hour Socomore college football Hert.
Speaker 3: Schmid rolls by as well.
Speaker 2: RSL is in action tonight, but a very special guest
Speaker 2: live in studio. I was a resident of sugar House
Speaker 2: for twelve years before the hipsters took over. Then I
Speaker 2: moved out, but while I lived there, Fiddler's was a
Speaker 2: constant for me RSL watch parties, hanging out for college football,
Speaker 2: NFL as well. New ownership now and the new owner, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: joins me live in studio.
Speaker 3: Jimmy, how are you man? I'm doing good. How are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the time today and congratulations. So let's talk
Speaker 2: about what I'll say is a reimagined Fiddler's experience. Now,
Speaker 2: you and I are both locals, spent a lot of
Speaker 2: time there back in the day, and you've taken over.
Speaker 3: What do you want our listeners to know?
Speaker 1: It's like a phoenix from the ashes there.
Speaker 10: We're reinventing an old staple of the neighborhood. It was,
Speaker 10: you know, such a community spot, such a great place
Speaker 10: for so many years, and if that place were to
Speaker 10: have closed forever, it would have.
Speaker 3: Been huge scar in the neighborhood.
Speaker 8: For sure.
Speaker 3: I grew up three blocks away.
Speaker 10: That's my home, that's my hometown. I feel I feel
Speaker 10: at home in the neighborhood, so I had to bring
Speaker 10: it back.
Speaker 2: It's awesome and I'm excited to experience the reimagined fiddlers.
Speaker 2: It's no longer Fiddler's Elbow, It's just Fiddler's So it's
Speaker 2: Fiddler's Sugarhouse. The website is Fiddler's Sugarhouse dot com. Now, Jimmy,
Speaker 2: it's no secret for anybody that has attempted to traverse
Speaker 2: the Sugarhouse space these days that it is a little
Speaker 2: bit complicated, daunting, daunting, convoluted.
Speaker 4: So talk about the access to Fiddlers right now, easy
Speaker 4: access off of eleventh East.
Speaker 10: You can come off of the freeway down twenty first South,
Speaker 10: take a RTE and then left right into our parking lot.
Speaker 10: Some really good news. They just paved last night. So
Speaker 10: twenty first South is paved. It's not open in both directions. Yeah,
Speaker 10: but a few days we should be we should be.
Speaker 3: Doing pretty good. All right, good that actually, that is
Speaker 3: good news.
Speaker 4: And I would imagine with football season coming up college football, NFL,
Speaker 4: you'll have all the things that football fans want.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, we have.
Speaker 10: Twenty TVs in the building. You can see a TV
Speaker 10: from every seat in the house.
Speaker 2: Also Sunday brunch, late night eats. So if you're looking
Speaker 2: for a place to watch Utah games BYU games, college
Speaker 2: football games must be twenty one right. It's the thing
Speaker 2: we do in the state. We are a bar, not
Speaker 2: a restaurant. They make you put signs up and such,
Speaker 2: sure do so twenty one and over all, right, you
Speaker 2: brought some food in smells wonderful.
Speaker 3: Tell me what we got.
Speaker 10: So we brought just kind of a standard cheese pizza.
Speaker 3: Love it. I think it's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 10: The plain nature of it is just delicious cheese, sauce bread.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 10: We brought our Buffalo wings, fiddlers Burger with garlic, mayo,
Speaker 10: shredded lettuce, just an awesome third pound patty. And that's
Speaker 10: some Korean chili garlic.
Speaker 2: Good stuff, man, good stuff, all right. So website Fiddlersugarhouse dot.
Speaker 3: Com correct same with the Instagram handle.
Speaker 2: Okay, and follow them on social So Fiddler's in Sugarhouse.
Speaker 2: At Fiddler's Sugarhouse now, so reimagine experience of an old
Speaker 2: staple in a community that I lived in for twelve
Speaker 2: years that I really loved. Easily accessible from eleventh Feast
Speaker 2: with free parking. Now open for lunch and dinner, daily
Speaker 2: Sunday brunch as well late night eats. Come unwind and
Speaker 2: enjoy the game with a cold one at Fiddler's Sugarhouse
Speaker 2: neighborhood sports bar. Must be twenty one, find their menu
Speaker 2: and hours online at Fiddlersugarhouse dot com.
Speaker 3: Jimmy, thanks so much. Good to meet you. If you
Speaker 3: need anything, let us know. Okay, yeah, absolutely, thanks for
Speaker 3: having me. Greay, we'll catch a break.
Speaker 2: Bill Riley Jones is coming up next right here, Ron
Speaker 2: ESPN seven hundred.
Speaker 7: Tired of detouring your way through Sugarhouse. Fiddler's is easily
Speaker 7: accessible from eleventh East with free parking. Now open for
Speaker 7: lunch and dinner daily with Sunday brunch and awesome late
Speaker 7: night it eats. Come and wind and enjoy the game
Speaker 7: with a cold one at Fidlers Sugarhouses Neighborhood Sports Bar.
Speaker 3: Must be twenty one to enter. We're doing eighties Joel.
Speaker 2: Now, Eighties Joel, shout out, Horatio Sands step Brothers. We
Speaker 2: only exclusively do eighties Joel. Sir, that's all right, it's
Speaker 2: all right classic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you can only rely on the old school Billy
Speaker 4: Joel so much, Voice of the Huge Time, Bill Riley
Speaker 4: Wednesday Afternoon, Ryle's Happy Wednesday, Sir?
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 8: Is this?
Speaker 9: The FN? Catalina Winem.
Speaker 2: I love that they had an eighties Joel cover band.
Speaker 2: It is so perfect because look, I like Billy Joel,
Speaker 2: but the eighties.
Speaker 3: I think it's safe to say got loose for our guy.
Speaker 9: The Glasshouses is his peak, probably peak Joel. But yeah,
Speaker 9: the later stuff hit here, hit there, But yeah, you're right,
Speaker 9: it's you know, and the Horatio Sands could have been
Speaker 9: any better.
Speaker 2: I tried to watch Happy Gilmore Too last night. Lasted
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes. So I dug into the Billy Joel documentary
Speaker 2: on HBO.
Speaker 3: Have you tried to watch?
Speaker 9: I've heard it. Yeah, I did watch Happy Gilmore Too.
Speaker 9: I didn't go in with high expectations. I found it amusing.
Speaker 9: It was fine. But for you I have. I've heard
Speaker 9: great things about the Joel documentary.
Speaker 8: Is it good?
Speaker 3: Highly recommend?
Speaker 4: I watched. I watched the first part. It's a two
Speaker 4: parter ors so highly recommend, excellent. I'll dial it up.
Speaker 2: You're watching anything else these days? What's what's on the
Speaker 2: Bill Riley TV show list?
Speaker 9: Not a whole lot going on right now, spence To
Speaker 9: be fair, I got into Handmaid's Tale, the Hulu show
Speaker 9: with Elizabeth Moss, The Seed. The last season just came out,
Speaker 9: and I've been watching that. I never watched it when
Speaker 9: it came out initially, and went into that. It's got
Speaker 9: a lot of HBO show vibes where you've got to
Speaker 9: kind of let the characters develop. But outside of that,
Speaker 9: not much. Just doing a lot of reading, a lot
Speaker 9: of football reading and studying right now for the fall
Speaker 9: from the fall season coming up.
Speaker 2: Well, in that case, we should start with a comprehend
Speaker 2: to break down of how George and Yang fits in
Speaker 2: with the Jazz roster.
Speaker 9: Oh my gosh, the minivan is back.
Speaker 3: He is?
Speaker 9: What was what was the I mean, they just trying
Speaker 9: to get to the floor of what they have to spend.
Speaker 9: What's the thought process behind bringing George back?
Speaker 2: You get two second round picks for a salary Boston
Speaker 2: didn't want, and I think that's it. I wouldn't be
Speaker 2: stunned if they actually bought him out. But that was
Speaker 2: a question. Tongue in cheek. No one gives a rip.
Speaker 2: They're not going to be good this year, so let's
Speaker 2: stop football, Bill.
Speaker 9: The Huts will be good this year. Yeah, I'm betting
Speaker 9: on So we talk about that.
Speaker 2: So the question I've been asking everybody today is what
Speaker 2: does success look like year two? In the Big twelve?
Speaker 2: The Vegas over under seven point five wins. If I
Speaker 2: gave you eight, Bill would you take that out of
Speaker 2: the gates.
Speaker 8: Yes, I would.
Speaker 9: I saw that line, you know, not for entertainment purposes only,
Speaker 9: but I liked the over on that bet. I'm not
Speaker 9: predicting an eleven and one season or anything like that,
Speaker 9: but I think this team was average quarterback play away
Speaker 9: from being eight or nine wins last year. I think
Speaker 9: they're going to have more than that this year.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 9: The schedule's tough, I mean Texas Tech and BYU in
Speaker 9: Arizona State, and the finishing up with the Kansas schools
Speaker 9: is not going to be easy. But I know if
Speaker 9: I were gambling and allowed to gamble, would I would
Speaker 9: look at that and say, I'm with you on that spence.
Speaker 9: I think over seven and a half is a is
Speaker 9: a pretty fair thought on this Utah football team.
Speaker 2: We were discussing the dynamic of pressure and when it
Speaker 2: comes to what Utah football found themselves in last year,
Speaker 2: the pressure was pretty simple to explain. Everybody thought that
Speaker 2: we're going to win the thing, and so you enter
Speaker 2: other stadiums with the proverbial favorite bullseye on your back.
Speaker 2: You welcome teams into your stadium that are motivated to
Speaker 2: come in and beat the team that everyone thinks is
Speaker 2: going to win it.
Speaker 3: That pressure is not there this year.
Speaker 2: Is that something you think can be beneficial for the
Speaker 2: coaching staff you utilize the whole us against the world mentality.
Speaker 9: Yeah, I think so, and I think you can provide
Speaker 9: that little chip on the shoulder. Though I will say
Speaker 9: I think a lot of people you and I've talked
Speaker 9: about this ever since Big twelve media days, I think
Speaker 9: the tide is shifted a little bit. Not that Utah
Speaker 9: is some sort of overwhelming favorite like they were a
Speaker 9: year ago, but I think more people are jumping on
Speaker 9: the Utah bandwagon, but it's not unanimous, and there's a
Speaker 9: case to be made for ASU or Kansas State or
Speaker 9: Baylor or whomever. So I think they can use that
Speaker 9: a little bit, though not too much. It's not as
Speaker 9: if people expect them to finish near the bottom of
Speaker 9: the league, So I think it's a little bit of one.
Speaker 9: But I think more than anything else, I think this
Speaker 9: team's just hungry. And again, it's not the same team
Speaker 9: that was here two or three years ago, but there's
Speaker 9: a lot of guys in the coaching staff, and I
Speaker 9: think there's a lot of people that are eager to
Speaker 9: restore Utah football to what it's been the last decade
Speaker 9: or so. And I think they've got a chance to
Speaker 9: do that if they stay healthy. Obviously everything's predicated on
Speaker 9: the quarterback position, So if Devin Dampierre stays upright this
Speaker 9: year behind that outstanding offensive line, I think they've got
Speaker 9: a great chance to do it.
Speaker 2: Is there a and you can only experience this, experience
Speaker 2: this if you're in the building like you are, it's
Speaker 2: always hard to ascertain what's real or what's not on
Speaker 2: social or just on TV on video.
Speaker 3: Is there a more loose feel with the group this year?
Speaker 8: You know?
Speaker 3: Preseason?
Speaker 2: Last year, I think all those expectations and then the
Speaker 2: ambiguity about the health of not just Cameron but the
Speaker 2: other players probably permeated throughout the entire thing. I felt
Speaker 2: like there was kind of like an uptight feel in.
Speaker 4: The building last year. Does it feel like it's a
Speaker 4: little more loose so far this year?
Speaker 9: I wouldn't say loose, Spence, I would say very dialed in.
Speaker 9: I think that these guys, especially on the offensive side
Speaker 9: of the football, where they've brought in a new scheme,
Speaker 9: they really got. These coaches are really locked into the
Speaker 9: details and coaching the details. I've been out to a
Speaker 9: number of practices and being able to watch a lot
Speaker 9: of practice, I see is a lot of detail oriented
Speaker 9: coaching and these guys really being locked in on, you know,
Speaker 9: the little things. And I wouldn't say it's tense. I
Speaker 9: wouldn't say it's loose. What I'd say is it's very
Speaker 9: locked in and focused on what they have to do.
Speaker 9: You're installing a new offense, you know, sure the quarterback
Speaker 9: knows it, one of the receivers, one of the quarterback
Speaker 9: and the running backs know it, but everybody else doesn't.
Speaker 9: So even through springtill now, there's a lot of really
Speaker 9: refinement and attention to detail that Again, maybe I didn't
Speaker 9: pay as much attention last year to it, but this
Speaker 9: year I can really see these coaches focused in on
Speaker 9: the little things and making sure the little things are
Speaker 9: taken care of, because you know that old adage, if
Speaker 9: you let the little things go, then they snowball into
Speaker 9: big things, and they're not doing that right now. So
Speaker 9: not loose, not tight, I would say focused.
Speaker 2: When it comes to you know, it's nice to know
Speaker 2: who the starter is under center, and of course it's Devin,
Speaker 2: And it seems like there's a lot of praise for
Speaker 2: bird flick Fickland, the new kid that we need to
Speaker 2: get to know about a little bit. Does it feel
Speaker 2: like that quarterback room is still a battle behind Devon
Speaker 2: or do you think it's I think it's settled one two, three.
Speaker 9: No, No, No, I still think it's a battle. I
Speaker 9: think they're going to want to look at both scrimmages before.
Speaker 9: I mean, obviously, if you were if you were battling
Speaker 9: for a number one quarterback, you want to get that
Speaker 9: thing settled as soon as humanly possible. I think with
Speaker 9: the backup quarterback thing, You're right, bird Fickland has looked
Speaker 9: for a guy that's a true freshman, and he looks
Speaker 9: sharp in the spring. But Isaac has looked good at
Speaker 9: times this fall too. I think both those guys have
Speaker 9: had their moments. Isaac's got the experience factor, bird Fickland's
Speaker 9: a little bit more athletics, got a little bit more
Speaker 9: of a live arm. So I don't think they're going
Speaker 9: to set out again. This is just me hypothesizing, but
Speaker 9: I don't think that they're going to settle that backup
Speaker 9: quarterback thing till probably later in camp. I think they
Speaker 9: want to give both those guys as many reps as
Speaker 9: they possibly can to figure out who that backup quarterback is.
Speaker 2: What do you think the Nate Johnson experience this year
Speaker 2: looks like? Obviously we know Nate he was here before transferring.
Speaker 2: He transfers back in not in the mix to start,
Speaker 2: and that's fine. But what sort of Nate Johnson experience
Speaker 2: you think we're in for it for you ta this year?
Speaker 9: I think, and again this bear with me here. I
Speaker 9: think you know how the forty nine ers used Deebo Samuel,
Speaker 9: how they lined him up all over the field. They
Speaker 9: put him in the slot, they'd line him up in
Speaker 9: the backfield, they bring him in motion, they'd line him
Speaker 9: up out. Why I think you're going to see them
Speaker 9: do something like that with Nate Johnson because he doesn't
Speaker 9: have a defined position. He was a quarterback his entire life.
Speaker 9: But what we know is he's a terrific athlete. So
Speaker 9: I think what Jason Beck and his staff are figuring
Speaker 9: out this fall camp, and I think they were doing
Speaker 9: a little bit in spring too, is you know where
Speaker 9: his absolute strengths are, where you're going to see him
Speaker 9: thrive the most. I don't think you're going to see
Speaker 9: Nate Johnson on the field for forty five or fifty snaps,
Speaker 9: Well maybe you I don't know, but my guess is
Speaker 9: I think they're going to utilize him in situations that
Speaker 9: best fit his athleticism and his football mold right now,
Speaker 9: because again, yeah, I know, we saw him do a
Speaker 9: lot of things when he was here a couple of
Speaker 9: years ago. He sat behind the pavey at at Vandy
Speaker 9: last year, so he's really learning to be a field
Speaker 9: player more than a quarterback right now. But I think
Speaker 9: that you're going to see his role probably evolve as
Speaker 9: the year goes along. It might be a small role
Speaker 9: as the season begins, but if he thrives in that
Speaker 9: small role, I could absolutely see him with an expanded
Speaker 9: role as the season goes along, just because he's such
Speaker 9: a phenomenal athlete. And when you see him even out
Speaker 9: of the practice field, his size, his speed, his kind
Speaker 9: of wiggle a little bit on the field, it stands out.
Speaker 9: So I think, you know, initially it'll probably be a
Speaker 9: little bit of a I don't even know if limited
Speaker 9: is right word, but a smaller package. And then I
Speaker 9: think as he gets more and more comfortable being a
Speaker 9: field player, I think that package evolves.
Speaker 2: I know I ask you every week, but it does
Speaker 2: seem to be by a coach WIT's own admission. The
Speaker 2: positional group on offense that has the most unknowns right now,
Speaker 2: and if Devin's numbers will improve through the air, juxtapose
Speaker 2: what he did a year ago in New Mexico. He's
Speaker 2: got to find some receivers to catch the football. You know,
Speaker 2: when you look at just the measurements the Merriweather kids
Speaker 2: six five one ninety five, which certainly is the size
Speaker 2: you want at that position.
Speaker 3: But how is that group coming?
Speaker 8: Bill?
Speaker 3: Can you share any progress with us? Hey?
Speaker 9: I talked to Micah Simon, who's the wide receiver coach,
Speaker 9: quite a bit after practices, and I think he likes
Speaker 9: what he's seeing. I don't know that they've got their
Speaker 9: locked in top six or seven yet, but I think
Speaker 9: they're beginning to get a feel for it. I've heard
Speaker 9: good things about Tobias Merriweather, as you mentioned Spence. He
Speaker 9: has those measurables six' five one to ninety, five can
Speaker 9: run a four to four and get.
Speaker 8: Deep he has.
Speaker 9: IT i Know Larry, simmons the transfer From Southern, myths
Speaker 9: has had some good days. Too Creed, whittemore kid that's
Speaker 9: a transfer From Mississippi, state has had some good. Practices
Speaker 9: same thing With Ryan, davis who was in this offense last,
Speaker 9: year And Dadrin, zipperer who was in this offense a year,
Speaker 9: ago has had some moments. Too SO i think they're
Speaker 9: beginning to get a feel for.
Speaker 8: It you.
Speaker 9: Know, again it's a little bit like the backup quarterback.
Speaker 9: SPOT i don't know that you have to lock in
Speaker 9: your top six now in the second week of, camp
Speaker 9: BUT i think you probably want to have it locked
Speaker 9: up by the time camp kind of wraps up next.
Speaker 2: Week does it feel like Was shan IS rb one by?
Speaker 2: Far and what else do can you tell us about that?
Speaker 3: Room you?
Speaker 2: Know Was Sean parker good freshman Year wazoo five point
Speaker 2: four yards per carry wasn't their, primary but at practice
Speaker 2: this last week he said he's looking to eclipse one,
Speaker 2: thousand wants to touch fifteen. Hundred utah has had seventeen
Speaker 2: one thousand yard running backs in its. History it's a
Speaker 2: position that has great history and. Pedigree so does it
Speaker 2: feel like Was shan has separated himself and who else
Speaker 2: is shining in that?
Speaker 9: ROOM i think he would probably BE rb one right.
Speaker 9: NOW i don't know. THAT i think the days of you,
Speaker 9: know remember When John white And Devontae booker and guys
Speaker 9: like that would get thirty carries a. GAME i think
Speaker 9: those days have gone by the. Wayside but remember Was
Speaker 9: shawn last year as a, freshman a true freshman Of
Speaker 9: Washington state ran for seven hundred and fifty seven hundred
Speaker 9: and seventy. Yards he didn't have an offensive line like
Speaker 9: he's got this year At, utah SO i would say
Speaker 9: he's probably the number one. Option but Mckirie, rodgers who
Speaker 9: played At New mexico a year, ago who was the
Speaker 9: backup there a year, ago he's in the mix as.
Speaker 9: WELL a green young man from UNLV's getting some. Touches
Speaker 9: they really like this young kid from The dallas, Area Daniel.
Speaker 9: Bray it's a true, freshman not a real big running back,
Speaker 9: yet but he's super. Fast SO i think you're probably
Speaker 9: going to see a little bit of a. MIX i
Speaker 9: don't think we see one guy getting twenty seven to
Speaker 9: thirty carries a, game BUT i think it's pretty fair
Speaker 9: to say right now That wayshan would probably be that
Speaker 9: lead guy With, rogers the guy who played in the
Speaker 9: offense a year ago right behind.
Speaker 3: Him you know.
Speaker 2: You referenced the sketch AND i guess it depends on
Speaker 2: what you read and who you listen. To BUT i
Speaker 2: feel Like Texas, Tech Arizona, state And Kansas state are
Speaker 2: three of WHAT i would say six or seven teams
Speaker 2: that are mentioned to win The big, twelve you get
Speaker 2: all three of those teams at. Home seems like the
Speaker 2: road test will Be provo AGAINST, byu Then waco Against.
Speaker 2: Baylor but just kind of generally, speaking your thoughts on the,
Speaker 2: schedule how it starts out at The Rose bowl against
Speaker 2: A ucla team with a lot of new. Players the
Speaker 2: non con includes Cal poly at home than The Porter
Speaker 2: Larson bowl And.
Speaker 3: Laramie but what do you what do you make of
Speaker 3: just the.
Speaker 2: Schedule both non conon conference and we'll sell you loose after.
Speaker 9: THIS i think it sets up pretty Well, spence to be,
Speaker 9: FAIR i, mean you're playing two road. GAMES i THINK,
Speaker 9: ucla you, KNOW i think they're going to be better
Speaker 9: on offense this. Year they struggled last year early with
Speaker 9: Did Deshaun foster as there is our head, coach first
Speaker 9: semit coach got a little bit better as a year went,
Speaker 9: along but defensively they have not been very good and
Speaker 9: they look pretty empty. There this, year maybe something. Changes
Speaker 9: we'll get to see Nko. Iamaliava we'll see what he's
Speaker 9: able to. DO i Like utah's chances. There, obviously Cal
Speaker 9: poly at. Home i'm not sure What yo's got just.
Speaker 9: Yet they weren't picked super high in The Mount West.
Speaker 9: Conference but going To, laramie and, again that's a game
Speaker 9: right before you're coming home to Play Texas. Tech you
Speaker 9: don't want to take anything for, granted BUT i think
Speaker 9: those three games are all very winnable For. Utah and
Speaker 9: then you get that first big Test Texas, tech who
Speaker 9: spent depending on the reports you, here anywhere from twenty
Speaker 9: five to fifty five million dollars in the offseason on their.
Speaker 9: Roster they're going to be. Good they've got a regial
Speaker 9: veteran quarterback coming, Back they've got they loaded up on
Speaker 9: their offensive and defensive lines with. Transfers now the real
Speaker 9: question is can you make all those guys fit together?
Speaker 9: Quickly we'll, See BUT i like the way the schedule
Speaker 9: plays out for, them and like you, said to Have,
Speaker 9: tech to Have Arizona, state to Have Kansas state at,
Speaker 9: HOME i think the two really tough road games are
Speaker 9: they are them are The baylor game in Mid november
Speaker 9: and that game In, provo which is always a tough.
Speaker 9: Game THOUGH i will, say depending On kansas's health And
Speaker 9: Jalen daniel's, health that could be a really big game
Speaker 9: at the end of the. Year in, fact it might
Speaker 9: be a game that determines whether you go to The
Speaker 9: big twelve championship, game because if that kid's, healthy he is.
Speaker 9: Dynamic he Is devin dam pier like in his. Athleticism
Speaker 9: he's just been beat up the last couple of. Years
Speaker 9: SO i think that could be a sneaky tough, game
Speaker 9: Especially thanksgiving. Weekend BUT i do like the way the
Speaker 9: schedule sets, up especially Having tech And Arizona state and
Speaker 9: K state In Salt Lake. City BUT i agree with.
Speaker 9: YOU i think there's five or six teams that could
Speaker 9: make a real case for winning this. League and the
Speaker 9: good news For utah is three of the five of
Speaker 9: them play rice.
Speaker 2: Cycles is your handler giving us the high? Sign is
Speaker 2: that what's happening?
Speaker 9: Now he might be coming down the?
Speaker 3: Hall all, Right, Bill, well we'll set you.
Speaker 9: Loose thanks for the, time, Buddy Thanks benthell talk you
Speaker 9: Saying Bill.
Speaker 2: Riley voice the you who now has a handler us
Speaker 2: when he has to get off the.
Speaker 1: Phone it was just a short time. Ago he was
Speaker 1: just a he was just a.
Speaker 2: Coworker what, Happens, well he's big time IN us, now
Speaker 2: a big twelve media.
Speaker 4: Day he was the one you coach wit didn't even
Speaker 4: have a. Handler kyle sat down with us for twenty.
Speaker 1: MINUTES i, KNOW i will, SAY i do know the.
Speaker 3: Issue today.
Speaker 6: They're about to do interviews on the, Hill so all,
Speaker 6: right practice just got, Over.
Speaker 2: OKAY i WAS i was surprised to Hear bill say
Speaker 2: IF i gave him eight wins, today he takes.
Speaker 1: THAT i was a little.
Speaker 6: Too now he's up there every, day he may have
Speaker 6: a little CLOSER i than we.
Speaker 1: Do, right we're.
Speaker 6: Not we're not operating off of seeing these guys on the.
Speaker 6: Field so, hey maybe this early in camp there's a
Speaker 6: little trepidation on you, know saying we're gonna win nine ten.
Speaker 6: Games i'm okay with. That let's revisit this exact conversation
Speaker 6: WHEN i Get bill on final week of fall, camp
Speaker 6: right when we get those guys on in Late, august
Speaker 6: that's WHEN i feel like maybe we can put some
Speaker 6: stock into.
Speaker 2: It, yeah a couple of scrimmages left between now AND
Speaker 2: ucla Coach beck last week did say that this week
Speaker 2: they are starting their game specific planning for The. Bruins
Speaker 2: AND i would imagine if you're starting to implement schemes
Speaker 2: and you're starting to really put a game plan. Together
Speaker 2: and we talked about this earlier WITH. BYU i don't
Speaker 2: know who's starting a quarterback FOR, byu but my guess
Speaker 2: is they know or they have a lean And i'm
Speaker 2: quite sure whether it's the backup quarterback job With Bird
Speaker 2: ficklin And Isaac wilson or this wide receiver room that
Speaker 2: feels so full of. Unknowns if they're putting in game
Speaker 2: plans this, week they certainly have an, idea if not knowing,
Speaker 2: altogether who's the Backup devin and how that wide receiver
Speaker 2: room is going to, look what the defensive line rotation
Speaker 2: is going to look.
Speaker 3: Like because it's no longer like it is time, man
Speaker 3: like we're.
Speaker 2: There we are basically three weeks in change away from game.
Speaker 2: Day interesting thing ABOUT ucla is they're going to be
Speaker 2: a little bit better, offensively but they're among the lowest
Speaker 2: teams in the country in returning, production not just in
Speaker 2: The big. TEN i think we've talked about this. THOUGH
Speaker 2: i do like that landing. SPOT i Like game.
Speaker 4: ONE i like that it's a BRAND i like that
Speaker 4: it's The Rose, bowl AND i like you have A
Speaker 4: ucla team, where even if they're not you know what
Speaker 4: they have been historically, speaking you get a win OVER
Speaker 4: ucla at The Rose bowl week, one over a brand
Speaker 4: name team and a team that maybe isn't all that
Speaker 4: dominant that it feels like a nice landing spot for.
Speaker 1: ME i think so.
Speaker 6: Too, obviously scheduling happens so far out that it's not
Speaker 6: like this is something you, planned you baked. In but
Speaker 6: getting an opponent THAT, i you, KNOW i Think utah can, beat,
Speaker 6: now it's not a. Cakewalk it's not AN fcs. School
Speaker 6: it's not you, know opening up against a team that
Speaker 6: is paying their entire yearly budget just to come up
Speaker 6: here and.
Speaker 9: Get.
Speaker 1: Stomped that's not what you have week.
Speaker 6: One it's a winnable football game against a school you
Speaker 6: have history, against against a school Who Kyle whittingham has historically,
Speaker 6: dominated and you know, worse worse, thing it doesn't. Matter
Speaker 6: it's a non conference game against a Former pac twelve.
Speaker 6: Fo if you have to knock The rust off and
Speaker 6: go ohn one in week, one well at least you
Speaker 6: do it In.
Speaker 2: Pasadena, yeah that's fair and you're not, wrong because the
Speaker 2: conference games are what. Matters but with this non conference,
Speaker 2: SCHEDULE i do think the expectation should be The Utah
Speaker 2: inters conference play three and.
Speaker 3: OHO i think they're going to be favorite AT.
Speaker 2: Ucla we'll see what the game line looks like during game,
Speaker 2: week which again three weeks in. Change they are of
Speaker 2: course going to be a massive Favor the Cal poly
Speaker 2: game is going to be one of those like seventy
Speaker 2: to three, games and then on the road At. Laramie
Speaker 2: if this was nineteen ninety, seven Maybe i'd say that's
Speaker 2: a little bit. Tricky it shouldn't be this. Year so
Speaker 2: the first conference, Game Texas tech at, home the expectation
Speaker 2: has to Be utahs three and zero heading into that,
Speaker 2: game even though the non conference games don't carry the
Speaker 2: same type of weight that the conference games. Carry Texas,
Speaker 2: Tech Arizona, state and K state at, home that's a
Speaker 2: big deal BECAUSE i do think those are three and
Speaker 2: if you look At Bill CONLEY'S s AND p and
Speaker 2: then out Of Adam rittenberg wrote a piece about the
Speaker 2: thirty two teams he thinks can actually win the national.
Speaker 2: Championship he lists all three of those. Teams he Lists Texas,
Speaker 2: tech he Lists Arizona, State any Lists Case.
Speaker 3: State three really.
Speaker 2: Good football teams out of this conference that will be
Speaker 2: playing here In Salt Lake. City of, course the two
Speaker 2: biggest road tests by far AT byu down In, provo
Speaker 2: then At baylor In. Wacombe all, right we'll get back
Speaker 2: to college football in the five o'clock the, program but
Speaker 2: from a local, standpoint there's actually a game. TONIGHT rsl
Speaker 2: is An action In Leagues cup, play and we will
Speaker 2: see one of their shiny new. Toys Ron cruz has
Speaker 2: been given his work. Visa he's available For pablo to play.
Speaker 2: Tonight and then they made The olatunji signing official as.
Speaker 2: Well all, right we'll get back to some of their
Speaker 2: college football conversation in the five o'clock. Hour got SOME
Speaker 2: nfl preseason as. Well coming up this, weekend we'll get
Speaker 2: to we'll take it out at Six Tony parks stopped
Speaker 2: by Earlier Dave fox rolled in, studio then a couple
Speaker 2: of minutes with the voice of the Youths Bill. Riley
Speaker 2: BUT rsl is an action tonight and we will see
Speaker 2: the debut of one of their new.
Speaker 3: Players Rown cruz.
Speaker 4: Has received his visa and it's eligible to make his
Speaker 4: club debut tonight In League's cup. Action Kurt schmidt the
Speaker 4: primary decision, maker The director Of Soccer ops or whatever
Speaker 4: the new title. Is he's just the guy that signs the,
Speaker 4: players which is a very important. Role, Kurt Happy, Wednesday,
Speaker 4: sir how are?
Speaker 3: You i'm?
Speaker 8: Good how are?
Speaker 3: You i'm. Good let's start With Rowan.
Speaker 2: Cruise let's start with the new player you have, signed
Speaker 2: and potentially we'll get to see him. Tonight origin, Story,
Speaker 2: Kurt when did you first hear about? Him how did
Speaker 2: this process play? Out what kind of what kind of
Speaker 2: player is?
Speaker 8: He, yeah we've we've actually been aware of him for
Speaker 8: for a. WHILE i think it's been it's almost been
Speaker 8: a at least nine or twelve months since we first
Speaker 8: heard his. Name we, actually you, know worked on him
Speaker 8: earlier in this in this, season in the primary, window
Speaker 8: he had made a big move To Vota, fogo but
Speaker 8: there was a chance that they might not use him
Speaker 8: as much as they, thought and so we we were
Speaker 8: speaking to them about alone a few months, ago but
Speaker 8: things didn't quite line, up and so to have them
Speaker 8: line up now is, obviously you, know, serendipitous which you
Speaker 8: always need a little bit of that in this in
Speaker 8: this line of. Work but you, know it's good that
Speaker 8: we were to line everything up and bring him on
Speaker 8: board for the rest of this year and hopefully next
Speaker 8: year as.
Speaker 2: Well So pablo this week referred to him as like
Speaker 2: a nine and a, half you, know a striker that
Speaker 2: can score goals but also make.
Speaker 3: Plays what sort of player Is?
Speaker 8: Ruwan, yeah nine and a, half, Nine he's sort of
Speaker 8: done both of those. Things and one of the things
Speaker 8: that's a positive about him is he can fit with
Speaker 8: the rest of our. Players he doesn't have one role
Speaker 8: that he has to do this, thing and so you,
Speaker 8: know you can only pair him with these certain players
Speaker 8: he can balance OFF i think anyone in our attack
Speaker 8: currently that we would play up top next to, him
Speaker 8: which is a. Positive he is probably a little more
Speaker 8: comfortable or adept in that nine and a half, role
Speaker 8: which just, means you, know he's someone that maybe gets
Speaker 8: the ball defeat a little bit more than comes from
Speaker 8: a slightly deeper space than the nine whose main job
Speaker 8: is to stretch and push the center backs back and
Speaker 8: occupy those two guys to create some space. Underneath so
Speaker 8: he's a guy that can play and. Connect you can
Speaker 8: play the ball into, him get it back off of, him.
Speaker 8: Combine he moves well after receiving and, passing and he
Speaker 8: finds good spaces in the. Box and he was able
Speaker 8: to score quite a few goals doing that thing In.
Speaker 2: Bulgaria so help me understand the type of level he's
Speaker 2: been playing, At, kurt and how that, compares if it
Speaker 2: does at, all WITH. Mls it's been it's always been
Speaker 2: fascinating to me to witness players come from certain leagues
Speaker 2: in certain countries and certain levels in other places and
Speaker 2: either really struggle to acclimate or just shine.
Speaker 3: Right out of the.
Speaker 2: Gates how does his level of play recently compare to
Speaker 2: what he's going to be up AGAINST.
Speaker 3: Nmls it's a.
Speaker 11: Great, Question and level of play doesn't where he's coming,
Speaker 11: from doesn't so much dictate how he'll do, here but
Speaker 11: it just tries to give you clues because the adaptation
Speaker 11: risk is one of the biggest risks that we encounter
Speaker 11: when we're signing.
Speaker 8: Players how do they adapt to this? League adapt to this.
Speaker 8: Country there's a lot of off field factors that play into.
Speaker 8: It cultural factors or you, know they once you, know
Speaker 8: they come to, practice they go, home they come to,
Speaker 8: games they go. Home you, know they're at home more
Speaker 8: time than they're with us. Often so when they're at,
Speaker 8: home what are they. Doing do they have a, family
Speaker 8: are they you, know do they know how to go grocery?
Speaker 8: Shopping are they comfortable eating the food in the? Sculpture
Speaker 8: all these things play into. It language is certainly the obvious,
Speaker 8: One so all those things play into. It so it's
Speaker 8: hard to say that he's coming from this, level so you,
Speaker 8: know we know he can do this sort of thing
Speaker 8: in our. League one of the things, though that was
Speaker 8: very important to us as we were looking for this,
Speaker 8: player is that we find the player who was used
Speaker 8: to carrying the load for his. Team so if we
Speaker 8: find a guy who has, scored you, know double digit
Speaker 8: plus goals in the season for his, team has been
Speaker 8: the main man and had to put them on his
Speaker 8: on his back at different, points that's, something you, know
Speaker 8: that's that's something that we wanted this player to have
Speaker 8: experience so that when they come, here they they won't
Speaker 8: be surprised that's something that they're asked to do, here
Speaker 8: but they can shoulder the goal scoring load and and
Speaker 8: not be the first time that they've been asked to do.
Speaker 2: That so as far as the way this contract, works
Speaker 2: it is a loan with a purchase, option is What i've.
Speaker 2: READ i would imagine that you would very much like
Speaker 2: to keep him around long term if it works. Out
Speaker 2: so what's this process going to be like and kind
Speaker 2: of walk us through what options you have to kind
Speaker 2: of keep him here long term if he steps in
Speaker 2: and plays really.
Speaker 9: Well, yeah this structure just gives us.
Speaker 8: Flexibility but, certainly you, know we brought him here because
Speaker 8: we like, him and you, know we'd love for the
Speaker 8: relationship to be longer. Term for, now he's he's with
Speaker 8: us for a minimum of basically twelve, months and then
Speaker 8: we have an option to extend through the end of
Speaker 8: the season the, loan and then before the loan, terminates
Speaker 8: we have the option to purchase him should we decide
Speaker 8: to do. So and obviously a lot of factors go into,
Speaker 8: that you, know his performance being one of the biggest,
Speaker 8: ones but certainly the finances and all that play into
Speaker 8: it as. Well we think it's, that you, know good
Speaker 8: number relative to what he's moved forward, recently and given
Speaker 8: you know the expectations of what he could do for,
Speaker 8: us you, know so we're comfortable with those those aspects of.
Speaker 2: IT i believe he's been on the ground eleven, days
Speaker 2: so give us some early returns in, training meeting the,
Speaker 2: team you, know meeting his, teammates meeting the coaching. Staff
Speaker 2: pablo was singing his praises about what a nice kid he.
Speaker 2: Is so eleven days actually here on the, ground what
Speaker 2: can you?
Speaker 8: Share, yeah nice kid speaks speaks More english than you
Speaker 8: might expect from a guy who's only lived In bulgaria And.
Speaker 8: Brazil you, know gets, along seems to get along really
Speaker 8: well with his, teammates and you, know he's gotten into
Speaker 8: some training. Sessions. Now it's been a little tough because
Speaker 8: of the closeness of all the Games Wednesday, Saturday Wednesday.
Speaker 8: Saturday the rhythm of the trainings have been a little
Speaker 8: bit broken. Up so we haven't been in the pun
Speaker 8: in sort of big spaces with our group just because
Speaker 8: our group has been recovering and preparing for the next.
Speaker 8: Game but we've seen him in moments in front of
Speaker 8: goal you, know he looked. Good he's got he's got
Speaker 8: the soft. Feet LIKE i, said he can, combine he
Speaker 8: moves well off of. That so those those have been,
Speaker 8: positives and LIKE i, said off the, field he seems
Speaker 8: to be. Integrating obviously that's a slower. Process it'll take,
Speaker 8: time but the early returns on that are very.
Speaker 2: GOOD i have a feeling you're going to tell me
Speaker 2: this is up To, Pablo but do you think we
Speaker 2: will see him?
Speaker 8: Tonight, well, YEAH i mean it is up to up
Speaker 8: to the. Game i'd be surprised if he doesn't decide
Speaker 8: to put him into the game tonight at some. Points
Speaker 8: and certainly it's a good moment to get him into a,
Speaker 8: game you, know in this Last League's cup game as
Speaker 8: we as we start restart league play on On. Sunday you,
Speaker 8: know regardless of what what The League's cup future holds for,
Speaker 8: us getting him into this game is going to just
Speaker 8: help speed up the acclimatization of him to our team
Speaker 8: in our.
Speaker 2: League as far as the approach, TONIGHT i BELIEVE i
Speaker 2: started reading the tiebreaker Scenarios, kurt THEN i DECIDED i
Speaker 2: wanted to go.
Speaker 3: On living my.
Speaker 2: Life BUT i believe you need all three tonight and
Speaker 2: like six results to go your. Way so it's an
Speaker 2: interesting approach where obviously you want to win and get
Speaker 2: all three and then hope that luck is on your,
Speaker 2: side but with such a small chance of advancing and
Speaker 2: a team that probably is suffering from a bit of
Speaker 2: fatigue because the truncated, schedule maybe you want to rest
Speaker 2: some guys. Too what's what's the approach tonight as you
Speaker 2: enter the league's cup.
Speaker 8: Match, YEAH i, mean, look we've got to take you,
Speaker 8: know this is very, cliche, Right we've got to take
Speaker 8: care of our. Result the rest of it is in
Speaker 8: the hands of the. Universe so you, know the other,
Speaker 8: NIGHT i think things broke for us had we maximize
Speaker 8: our point, total but we didn't take care of our.
Speaker 8: Job so we just have to do do what we can,
Speaker 8: do control the controllables and do what's in front of,
Speaker 8: us and then you, know figure out where the chips
Speaker 8: fall after after everyone else. Plays but from a fatigue,
Speaker 8: standpoint you're. RIGHT i think certainly the whole group has
Speaker 8: been playing and putting in the work and playing every you,
Speaker 8: know every three four days over the last few. Weeks
Speaker 8: but there are some, guys you, know that have had
Speaker 8: more games than. Others and we you, know we've brought
Speaker 8: The egg off the bench the other night because he's you,
Speaker 8: know he's played more games in the last two months
Speaker 8: THAN i think we have as a, team just with
Speaker 8: The Gold cup and those sorts of. Things and you
Speaker 8: know a few other guys who haven't really been rotated
Speaker 8: out in a, while you, know maybe get a little
Speaker 8: bit of a rest or come or come off the
Speaker 8: bench and play a few less minutes in this, one
Speaker 8: and we get to see some of the some of
Speaker 8: the guys that you know that need to push for
Speaker 8: their starting jobs from the. Bench BUT i think that
Speaker 8: we've put out a, team or we will put out
Speaker 8: a team that we're really confident and while also preparing
Speaker 8: for you, know the next run of, games.
Speaker 2: You made another signing that became, official SO i can
Speaker 2: ask you About Victor. OLATUNJI i believe he had arrived On,
Speaker 2: sunday not available.
Speaker 3: Tonight.
Speaker 2: Uh my understanding is you're hoping to get that visa
Speaker 2: across the line prior to this. Weekend you've Got New
Speaker 2: york On. Sunday but let's start with same. QUESTION i
Speaker 2: ask you About cruz origin. Story when did you first
Speaker 2: discover this. Kid what was the process that brought him
Speaker 2: here At Salt.
Speaker 8: Lake, yeah that one was a little more. RECENT i
Speaker 8: think we picked him up just in the last six
Speaker 8: months and started following. Him you, know he's a guy
Speaker 8: that is is like we talked about nine nine and a,
Speaker 8: half he's more of a nine to nine or he's
Speaker 8: got a you, know he likes to play up, top
Speaker 8: he likes to be. Physical he's got a big. Frame you,
Speaker 8: know he's got got more size than we have elsewhere
Speaker 8: on our team and, strength and he's he's a guy
Speaker 8: that can hold the ball, up that can run in.
Speaker 8: Behind he's got good, speed he's good at driving the
Speaker 8: defense back and creating space underneath him for guy Like
Speaker 8: diego And jego to. Operate and he's a big, target you,
Speaker 8: know in and around the box for us to find
Speaker 8: in front of.
Speaker 2: Goal interesting he references, size, well that was one of
Speaker 2: the first Things pablo. Reference he actually, said we're kind
Speaker 2: of a small, team more of like a target or
Speaker 2: an athlete that just happens to be.
Speaker 8: TALL i wouldn't say he's, like you, know he's not
Speaker 8: a guy that kind of makes all his money in
Speaker 8: the air from that and from that, standpoint like so
Speaker 8: he's not a guy who can only really play with
Speaker 8: his head or is you, know maybe dominance with his,
Speaker 8: head but the kind of average everywhere eld he's more well.
Speaker 8: Rounded but from a from a size, standpoint, yeah He's
Speaker 8: he's a big boy that's gonna occupy a lot of
Speaker 8: attention from center backs and he's going to make it
Speaker 8: really really difficult on the other team center backs to
Speaker 8: uh to win the ball off of.
Speaker 2: Him what is uh Ole? Tunji as far as his contract?
Speaker 2: Details two point five million Fee. Tam for our listeners
Speaker 2: who know nothing About, tam including, me that's what he.
Speaker 2: Is but is he around for multiple? Years what are
Speaker 2: his contract?
Speaker 5: Details, yeah we've got we've got four years or, sorry
Speaker 5: four plus years on him with option including the option.
Speaker 8: Years and, Yeah, TAM i guess you're. Right it's will
Speaker 8: be a wonderful ten. Means but essentially what it means
Speaker 8: is we took that transfer fee and instead of paying
Speaker 8: it all at, once we've structured the paintings out over
Speaker 8: over a few.
Speaker 4: Years are you a bigger fan Of tam or gam uh?
Speaker 8: Neither just just give me cash that you can send
Speaker 8: me Cash. SPENCE i don't need tame or game right.
Speaker 4: Now at some Point i'm gonna make you laugh on the.
Speaker 4: SHOW i don't know How i'm gonna, land but at
Speaker 4: some Point i'm gonna do.
Speaker 8: It, uh how do you think you should say? Something? Fun?
Speaker 3: Not fair? Enough fair? Enough well? Played? Sir how do
Speaker 3: you how do.
Speaker 4: You anticipate cruise And olatunji is spitting in With, Diego, Diego,
Speaker 4: gozo you, know don the whole group like when when
Speaker 4: they have enough time under their, Belt dac lame To
Speaker 4: pablo and get it the right shape and this thing
Speaker 4: is going to be fully.
Speaker 3: Developed how do you kind of see that group playing?
Speaker 8: Together, YEAH i mean they both bring slightly different. Things
Speaker 8: and LIKE i, Said victor is the guy that will
Speaker 8: stretch and push center backs back and create space underneath
Speaker 8: him for for guys Like Diego diego to operate in that,
Speaker 8: space receive the well turn and then play the ball
Speaker 8: through and you you know find him with their through
Speaker 8: balls ideally and creatchans on. Goal you, know Uh rwan
Speaker 8: Or juan is someone who who both those guys can
Speaker 8: play the play the ball into and get it off
Speaker 8: of and so they can combine around around the defense
Speaker 8: to to create, space and he's he's someone that will
Speaker 8: give them that target and be a reference point for
Speaker 8: them for you know, guys you know guy Like dom
Speaker 8: on the wing Or gozo even you, know both guys
Speaker 8: will be really good targets behind the last line and
Speaker 8: in the box for their. Service so you, know they
Speaker 8: PROVIDE i think different things for each one of those,
Speaker 8: guys but the the the net net of it all
Speaker 8: is both guys will make the jobs of the other
Speaker 8: other you, know two three four attackers whatever underneath them
Speaker 8: a lot.
Speaker 2: Easier so let's, see today's date Is august, Sixth kurt
Speaker 2: just so you know that is there's fifteen days left
Speaker 2: in this. Window is your work? Done are you working
Speaker 2: on other? Editions what can you share with OUR rsl fan.
Speaker 3: Listeners, yeah we're.
Speaker 8: Working on probably, one one or two more. Things you,
Speaker 8: know it's obviously you know they haven't come together, yet
Speaker 8: so you, know nothing's, guaranteed But i'm hopeful to get
Speaker 8: one or two more guys in the door potentially. There
Speaker 8: you know that may there hasn't one one more one
Speaker 8: or two out at some. Point you, know that depends
Speaker 8: on a lot of other factors as. Well but if
Speaker 8: it all comes, together we might add one or two
Speaker 8: more pieces this. Window are we looking in the?
Speaker 2: Attack how are we looking on the back? Line it
Speaker 2: feels like your midfield is your, strength but where are
Speaker 2: we looking.
Speaker 8: At that's a good. Question i'll probably keep, that keep
Speaker 8: that to myself for, now but probably. Not we're not
Speaker 8: we're likely to sign another. Striker three threes on us
Speaker 8: in one. Window fair?
Speaker 3: Enough speaking of your, midfield you know A.
Speaker 2: MECCA i know he's not one hundred percent, yet but,
Speaker 2: man it's just a reminder of what he is when he's.
Speaker 2: Healthy now that he's been back playing you, know thirty
Speaker 2: forty to fifty minutes or. Whatever But, ruiz it's such
Speaker 2: a feel good. Story Against Club, america he may have
Speaker 2: been the best player on the. Field then Oh hata
Speaker 2: somehow has channeled his inner Like. Rinaldo he had one
Speaker 2: goal in like eighty games and he has three in
Speaker 2: the last. Three what sort of advantage does it give
Speaker 2: you to have three preferred you, know central holding. Mids
Speaker 2: you know in your formation you typically play two of the.
Speaker 2: Three it feels like that's your.
Speaker 3: Lynchpin. Kurt is that?
Speaker 8: Fair it's definitely the strongest part of our, roster the
Speaker 8: deepest part of our, roster and you, know, honestly it's
Speaker 8: a massive headache For, poplow you, know And pablo's got
Speaker 8: three you, know three or more, guys uh for two
Speaker 8: spots that that all want to and and honestly are
Speaker 8: capable of starting you, KNOW mls games for, him and you,
Speaker 8: know it makes the competition. Tight you, know it's it's,
Speaker 8: pushed you, know a guy Like Joel kulskin to write
Speaker 8: back at. Times so you, know it's it's certainly a
Speaker 8: headache and a problem for for the coaching staff Or.
Speaker 8: Pablo but but those are the good problems that that
Speaker 8: we like to try to give give our coaches is you,
Speaker 8: know not not who we're going to play because nobody
Speaker 8: is stepping, up but who we're going to play because
Speaker 8: everyone's playing at their top level and and it makes
Speaker 8: it difficult to pick the best. Too So pablo is
Speaker 8: it's really really good to see where he's at right.
Speaker 8: Now he's been he's been. Fantastic, obviously he's missed a
Speaker 8: lot of time with, injury and it was very reasonable
Speaker 8: to expect and to see the last few, months you,
Speaker 8: know for him to get back into it and get
Speaker 8: back closer to the level he was that when this
Speaker 8: sort of injury uh situation started about roughly eighteen or
Speaker 8: now it's like almost two years. Ago so to see
Speaker 8: his play the last few games has been. Phenomenal you,
Speaker 8: know his path, thing his, vision his ability to create
Speaker 8: chances for, us and then even some things THAT i
Speaker 8: don't think were his strength a couple of years, ago
Speaker 8: he's now working on and improving to the point where
Speaker 8: these are not, liabilities are things that concern us as,
Speaker 8: much which is you, know some of his, defensing his work,
Speaker 8: rate defending his work, rate his ability closed on, space
Speaker 8: his ability tracking, back his wills to do things like.
Speaker 8: That that's been. Phenomenal and then you, know it's really
Speaker 8: hard to elaborate too much on. OHEIA i, mean, obviously
Speaker 8: when a player like that is scoring goals for, you
Speaker 8: then you'll take. It and you, know he can't can't
Speaker 8: do can't do much more than that other than recover
Speaker 8: the ball as much as he, does cover as much
Speaker 8: ground as he, does and then also put the ball
Speaker 8: in the back of the.
Speaker 2: Net SO i find the art and honestly science of
Speaker 2: talent evaluation and sport. FASCINATING i always have on a scouting,
Speaker 2: level and you, know nobody bats a. Thousand everybody has.
Speaker 2: Misses everybody has a lot of. Misses you just hope
Speaker 2: that you can intertwine some of those misses with some
Speaker 2: big home runs and some good. Hits it didn't work
Speaker 2: out With, lachlan and you, Know i'll let you kind
Speaker 2: of elaborate as to why you think that is and
Speaker 2: also intertwined in your. Question i'm wondering what your personal
Speaker 2: approach is when it comes to analyzing and whether or
Speaker 2: not this is even possible when it comes to analyzing
Speaker 2: if a young man is ready to be a, Professional
Speaker 2: because when it comes to being a, pro all these
Speaker 2: guys have. Talent every professional athlete has. Talent they're used
Speaker 2: to dominating younger. Leagues they were dominant in high, school
Speaker 2: they were dominant in, college they were dominant in. Juniors
Speaker 2: if you want to play in the, pros if you
Speaker 2: want to play in the highest, level talent's not.
Speaker 3: Enough you've got to be a.
Speaker 2: Professional when it comes to the way you analyze these,
Speaker 2: things how can you be sure that you're signing somebody
Speaker 2: that's ready to do what they have to do for
Speaker 2: you every, day not just game.
Speaker 8: Day, WELL i, mean FIRST i would say you're never, sure,
Speaker 8: right and you, know you're trying to analyze all these
Speaker 8: things from afar and until they are here in your,
Speaker 8: group in your, team you, know in your, city you
Speaker 8: don't know them as well as you do when that.
Speaker 8: Happens so we do a lot of work obviously evaluating,
Speaker 8: talent like you, said and watching the player play. Games
Speaker 8: we have multiple people, Watch we do, rankings we watch,
Speaker 8: clips we watch full. Games you, know we ask people
Speaker 8: that we know who know the player or who've seen
Speaker 8: the player what they think can get outside feedback on
Speaker 8: all those. Things but then we do the same thing
Speaker 8: and you, know when it comes to the character mentality
Speaker 8: side of the, game you, know we do a lot
Speaker 8: of reference checks of hopefully we find people that play with,
Speaker 8: him people that he played, for coaches he played, for
Speaker 8: people that you, know just at familiar with those marketplaces
Speaker 8: and and just know a lot about the players in that.
Speaker 8: Marketplace and you, know we try to find, out you, know,
Speaker 8: hey what kind of person is, this what kind of
Speaker 8: kid is? This and it's and it's never black and,
Speaker 8: white right because these are all young, men and you,
Speaker 8: know sometimes young men are you, know great, citizens and
Speaker 8: sometimes young men do things that are you, know not
Speaker 8: ideal or make, mistakes and as we all have when we're,
Speaker 8: young and so you, know you've got to parse things
Speaker 8: and we through what's, important what's not? Important what what
Speaker 8: it's a deal breaker for us, essentially and what what
Speaker 8: what things can we work on with the player or
Speaker 8: the things that we can help him, overcome or the
Speaker 8: things that will change if he comes here versus where he's.
Speaker 8: At you, know is you, know maybe he's a leader
Speaker 8: in his locker room, There well is that going to translate?
Speaker 8: Here you, know when he's a new player in a new,
Speaker 8: country you, know is he going to be a leader
Speaker 8: in the locker room? HERE i don't. Know you, know
Speaker 8: those are things that we have to work on and find.
Speaker 8: Out and you, know, again until they're, here it's you,
Speaker 8: know you can never fully answer all of those. Questions
Speaker 8: but we do go through a lot of exhaustive light
Speaker 8: work to to find out as much as we can
Speaker 8: about these these players before we bring them.
Speaker 3: Here why do you think it didn't work out With?
Speaker 8: Lachlin good, question you, Know and and sometimes timing is
Speaker 8: is a big. Factor you, KNOW i Think lachlan someone
Speaker 8: who's come in and a lot of a lot of
Speaker 8: success IN i guess in sports in, general but certainly
Speaker 8: in this. Game is is about being, ready being prepared
Speaker 8: to seize your, opportunity you, know and to to go
Speaker 8: to someone else for a, second like you, know vocalist
Speaker 8: and AND i spoke in pre season about you, know
Speaker 8: his pathway and his future and what that looks. Like
Speaker 8: and and you, know the net net of the conversation
Speaker 8: without you, know going too far into it is and
Speaker 8: like you can play at this, level be, ready it's.
Speaker 8: Coming when you get, it don't let it go. Right
Speaker 8: and that's obviously something that he's. Done and you, KNOW i,
Speaker 8: think you, know Certainly lockey had opportunities with us as.
Speaker 8: Well AND i don't, think you, know through any deficiency
Speaker 8: or FAULT i guess of his. Own but in the
Speaker 8: games where he, was you, know he had the opportunities
Speaker 8: to grab the. Game it wasn't that he, uh you,
Speaker 8: know played extremely. Poorly it was just he didn't grab.
Speaker 8: It he didn't take the. Opportunity and and that was.
Speaker 8: Difficult and sometimes some some, players for various, reasons may
Speaker 8: get a few more, opportunities some players make it a few.
Speaker 8: Less sometimes it's you, know your, attitude your, personality your.
Speaker 8: Characters sometimes with how you're, training it's your work. Rate
Speaker 8: there's a lot of factors that go into how many
Speaker 8: opportunities are you going to? Get but the reality, is
Speaker 8: if you're a good enough player at this, level you
Speaker 8: are going to get an opportunity and are you going
Speaker 8: to be prepared to take? It and you, know whether
Speaker 8: he was prepared to take it or. Not you, KNOW
Speaker 8: i don't know if he prepared, himself BUT i know
Speaker 8: that when he did have those, opportunities it's unfortunate BECAUSE
Speaker 8: i think he has a lot of, talent he's a good,
Speaker 8: player he's a good. Kid but, yeah he didn't he
Speaker 8: didn't grab it on the. Field and a number of
Speaker 8: factors came together in the summer window to make this
Speaker 8: the right move for him and the right move for. Us,
Speaker 8: obviously it frees up a roster, spot in international spots
Speaker 8: and cap. Space all those things were advantageous on our.
Speaker 8: Side and you, know he he gets a clean start
Speaker 8: and a first started at a new club and he's
Speaker 8: able to work his way up.
Speaker 2: There there are very few players IN, mls if, any
Speaker 2: that have had the calendar year The diego has The
Speaker 2: Diego luna, has he has The Gold cup experience where
Speaker 2: his star just shot through the. Roof he has The
Speaker 2: Skills Challenge All star, experience and then he has the
Speaker 2: task of carrying a heavy load for you guys because
Speaker 2: he's that. Good what do you see? Lately is it
Speaker 2: a little bit of? Fatigue is he pressing too? Hard
Speaker 2: is this a young man learning to be a? STAR
Speaker 2: i Remember Donovan mitchell went through, This he went through
Speaker 2: a real downtime AND i talked to his, Coach Quinn,
Speaker 2: snyder and he, said he's learning to be a. STAR
Speaker 2: i don't think anybody saw The Donovan mitchell evolution when it,
Speaker 2: happened And i'm not sure how many people Saw diego
Speaker 2: star shooting through the roof the way it. Has is
Speaker 2: its a young player just learning to carry a very
Speaker 2: very heavy load both on and off the.
Speaker 8: Field, yeah you did a great job of answering that.
Speaker 8: Question and it's all of the, above your spot, on you,
Speaker 8: know and it's you, KNOW i guess it's what you
Speaker 8: what do You what are you saying when you say
Speaker 8: learning to be a? Star AND i think it's just you, know,
Speaker 8: obviously you, know you get to where you are by
Speaker 8: doing what you've. Done and so sometimes when people get
Speaker 8: to a certain, point it's, like Well i've got to you,
Speaker 8: know it's it's on me. NOW i got to do
Speaker 8: a little. More and sometimes that pushes you to try
Speaker 8: things a little bit, differently and it's you, know just
Speaker 8: about realizing, like, hey just just do my. Thing my
Speaker 8: thing got me, here my thing will be. Fine AND
Speaker 8: i Think diego when he's come, back HE'S i, mean
Speaker 8: he's putting a ton of, work he has a ton
Speaker 8: of miles on his. Legs fatigue is certainly playing into,
Speaker 8: it you, know, learning learning how to kind of even
Speaker 8: off the, field you, know deal with some of the.
Speaker 8: Stuff And diego is a really like well grounded, kid
Speaker 8: down to earth. Kid and you, Know i've never seen
Speaker 8: a person as young as he is deal with the
Speaker 8: tension he's getting in such a, good, positive you, know
Speaker 8: seemingly healthy. Way so like all that is, great but you,
Speaker 8: know like that that type of the year he's having
Speaker 8: would obviously affect the best of us and in some,
Speaker 8: way and so obviously he's. Not he's, not you, know
Speaker 8: not that it's that better or, worse but he's certainly
Speaker 8: not in the same headspace and and expectations for himself
Speaker 8: and pressure on himself now as he, was you know
Speaker 8: In march or In february when when he got to
Speaker 8: us from from nationally, camp, right and so all that's,
Speaker 8: changed and so that requires some adaptation on his part
Speaker 8: on our. Part and it's you, know it's just about
Speaker 8: learning and growing together and figuring, Out, okay how do
Speaker 8: we how do we maximize you, know what's going on with, you,
Speaker 8: Diego how do we how do we harness what you've
Speaker 8: gotten the best way? Possible how do, we you, know
Speaker 8: add some players around you to help maybe make your
Speaker 8: job a little bit, easier take some load off of,
Speaker 8: you so that you, know you can be more impactful
Speaker 8: in fewer moments rather than having to try to do
Speaker 8: something in the. Moment so that's that's really the process
Speaker 8: that we're going through right.
Speaker 2: Now how much of his skill, set if at, all
Speaker 2: colored your context and decision making when you were scouting
Speaker 2: and cruise and all the tune gi you, Know AND
Speaker 2: i talked To pablo about this this. Week i've always
Speaker 2: been a just give me the, talent give me the,
Speaker 2: talent will figure it. Out i've always been a gimme
Speaker 2: the talent. Guy but, also you, know certainly this is
Speaker 2: the case in other. Sports i'm not sure how pertinent
Speaker 2: it is in. Soccer it's a much different. Game when
Speaker 2: you have a player as brad As. Diego do you
Speaker 2: analyze what he does well when you're scouting these other
Speaker 2: players to make sure they fit his skill? Set or
Speaker 2: is it just like these guys are, awesome let's figure it.
Speaker 8: Out, no not not the second. Thing i've Been i've
Speaker 8: been a place or two where it's the second thing
Speaker 8: of just let's get talent in the door and figure it.
Speaker 8: Out and you, KNOW i think you you that works
Speaker 8: out when you get, really really, lucky you, know and
Speaker 8: it's it's, tough but it's certainly not something that's repeatable or.
Speaker 8: Systematic so you, know when we were signing these two,
Speaker 8: players we absolutely kept a close eye on what we
Speaker 8: thought diego strengths, Were what were things that we could
Speaker 8: compliment him, with and what were things that would enhance
Speaker 8: his skill. Set and you, know LIKE i described the
Speaker 8: two guys to you, earlier, right we you, know he's
Speaker 8: a guy that likes top right in the space. Underneath
Speaker 8: so we found someone or wanted to find someone that
Speaker 8: could play on the iceland that could. Stretch you, know
Speaker 8: If diego were a player that loved to run in
Speaker 8: behind from deeper positions and you, know be the guy
Speaker 8: who runs to the near, post then we probably sign
Speaker 8: a different, player, right who maybe does different things than. That.
Speaker 8: Right but so the compliment to What diego does is
Speaker 8: someone who does, stretch who does running, behind and then
Speaker 8: bringing in someone Like 'uan who he can combine, with,
Speaker 8: right and so he's not trying to dribble three four
Speaker 8: players in the middle of the. Defense but he's now
Speaker 8: someone where Maybe diego can beat one or two players
Speaker 8: off the, dribble but then combine and play at one
Speaker 8: two to get around another one and use him as
Speaker 8: a decoy at times or use him as an option
Speaker 8: at times to feed and e can. Scoble so, YEAH
Speaker 8: i mean when you talk about do we look at
Speaker 8: what would Compliment? Diego absolutely, right and as well as
Speaker 8: the rest of the. TEAM i don't want to just
Speaker 8: focus On diego there and put too much on. Him
Speaker 8: we focus on what we have and how do we compliment,
Speaker 8: that and that's critical to.
Speaker 2: Us last, week you, Know i've asked you About Rafa
Speaker 2: cabral pretty much. Weekly and you, know you alluded to
Speaker 2: something a little bit earlier like sometimes your best laid plans,
Speaker 2: aside you need a little. Luck And i'm not saying
Speaker 2: you got lucky, here but he has just been as
Speaker 2: bright as any spot on your roster in my, opinion
Speaker 2: and you can make a case that keeper is the
Speaker 2: most important position in. Soccer and watching him last week
Speaker 2: Against Club, america in those, pks there's a Little Nikki
Speaker 2: romando feel with the way he stepped.
Speaker 3: Up it didn't work out.
Speaker 4: Against San Luis San, luis but what can you say
Speaker 4: about what that addition has meant to your club this?
Speaker 8: Year i'm honestly can't say. Enough it wasn't luck getting
Speaker 8: someone with his, character his, mentality, leadership those were all
Speaker 8: things that we we you, know dug into in the
Speaker 8: in the sort of recruitment process and and came back
Speaker 8: with flying, colors like there were no question, marks no
Speaker 8: doubts about his, character his, mentality his, leadership what he
Speaker 8: could add to our team in our locker. Room and
Speaker 8: so from that, standpoint you, know he's he's been as
Speaker 8: advertised and it's been. Great, obviously the you, know the
Speaker 8: part that was a little bit less certain was just
Speaker 8: Coming he's coming off the season where he hasn't played
Speaker 8: with any, games and you, know he's he's getting a little,
Speaker 8: older which you, know for a lot of players is an,
Speaker 8: issue but for goalkeepers it's it's much much less of an.
Speaker 8: Issue you can get goalkeepers, playing you, know into thirty thirty,
Speaker 8: nine forty forty. One you, know the goalkeepers can play
Speaker 8: for a long time in that, position especially as they
Speaker 8: as they get. Older they understand, positioning they're good with their,
Speaker 8: feet they can, organize and those are all things that
Speaker 8: are strengths of his. Obviously so, YEAH i, mean but
Speaker 8: he also ticked a lot of boxes for. Adaptation he Spoke,
Speaker 8: english he played abroad into AND i think two different
Speaker 8: countries before going back To brazil and coming. Here you,
Speaker 8: know so he ticked a lot of boxes that made
Speaker 8: you think, Like, okay this is a guy that a you,
Speaker 8: know has has shown he can adapt after his own
Speaker 8: country speaks the language, here he'd probably adapt well, here
Speaker 8: B i, think you, know and this is what we
Speaker 8: love to see from guys is his desire to come
Speaker 8: to come. Here you, know he really wanted to come,
Speaker 8: here and that's something that isn't isn't lost on us,
Speaker 8: either because those, players those, players when they get, here
Speaker 8: they're the, committed they're the most. Committed they integrate the
Speaker 8: best into the, team the, club of the, community and
Speaker 8: those are the types of guys that we love to.
Speaker 3: Have last, Thing, Colon i'll set you loose on.
Speaker 2: This it got late early for you guys with a rough,
Speaker 2: start but you're unbeaten in eight of your last nine
Speaker 2: and you went from thirteenth to eight in The west
Speaker 2: since Mid.
Speaker 3: June why the? Turnaround what do you attributed to?
Speaker 8: MOST i, mean, look we are THE i think the
Speaker 8: third or fourth youngest team in terms of of you,
Speaker 8: know playing, time, minutes way at average age in in the.
Speaker 8: League and the answer sometimes this question is is really, obvious,
Speaker 8: Right so what a young players. Do they develop and
Speaker 8: they get better as long as they're given minutes and
Speaker 8: they're given proper. Coaching and that's you, know what ourgans.
Speaker 8: Done so you, know a lot of our group has gotten,
Speaker 8: better right and and they've, developed and so that's helped results.
Speaker 8: ALONG i think, learning you, know the coaches figuring out
Speaker 8: a little bit of tweaking the tactical structure a little
Speaker 8: bit at times has been has been helpful as, well
Speaker 8: right Adding gozo in a few. Games there is that
Speaker 8: is that second striker option as well as a wide.
Speaker 8: Option you, know having that flexibility in, him that's something
Speaker 8: that has helped the team and the team structure a
Speaker 8: lot as. Well so figuring some of those things out
Speaker 8: on the fly and then honestly as some of it
Speaker 8: is you, know and not to go back to, this
Speaker 8: but something is a little bit of luck because you,
Speaker 8: know we had games i think early in the season
Speaker 8: where our performance and if you look at someone like
Speaker 8: the underlying more advanced statistical, metrics you know our performance was.
Speaker 8: Good we should have won this game or drawn this,
Speaker 8: game or we shouldn't have lost this, game and we
Speaker 8: did lose the. Game then you, know you get to
Speaker 8: some of these games later and that that has switched
Speaker 8: a little. Bit and so that's something whereas you play
Speaker 8: more games and you have a bigger sample, size as
Speaker 8: long as you keep playing at a good, level you
Speaker 8: know you're you're going to do what those things usually
Speaker 8: say you should. Do AND i think that's that's where
Speaker 8: things have gotten as. Well and we're continuing to play
Speaker 8: at a high level and the team has now more
Speaker 8: confidence and more, belief which you know is a virtuous.
Speaker 2: Cycle, now, well it's been fun to watch the. Turnaround
Speaker 2: congrats on. That congrats on getting these players across the.
Speaker 2: Line good luck to, Night, kurt AND i appreciate the. Time, okay,
Speaker 2: YEAH i appreciate.
Speaker 8: It, svence thanks all, Right Kurch.
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