1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:00,240 Speaker 1: Yoda. 2 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,759 Speaker 2: How are you mate, fantastic. How are you doing today, Paul. 3 00:00:04,639 --> 00:00:05,639 Speaker 1: I'm pretty good man. 4 00:00:05,679 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 3: I'm in New York doing some media stuff, having a 5 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,199 good time. Nothing to complain about. 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 2: You know, It's it's become like Christmas in July Shark Week. 7 00:00:14,119 --> 00:00:16,000 There are so many people that I have met in 8 00:00:16,039 --> 00:00:18,160 the past couple of weeks. That's all we've talked about. 9 00:00:18,399 --> 00:00:20,399 Shark Week is coming and you're part of this. 10 00:00:22,039 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: I know. It's mind blowing. Dude. 11 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 3: I'm just a small town Australia kid and all of 12 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:29,440 a sudden, I'm getting paid to travel the world, have adventures, 13 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,559 go swimming with shark and try not to die. 14 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,399 Speaker 1: It's just like being in the military. 15 00:00:33,799 --> 00:00:37,119 Speaker 2: Speaking of those swims with those sharks, the way that 16 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:40,520 you will set up scenarios where the shark will attack you. 17 00:00:40,439 --> 00:00:42,920 You were like a test dummy to too many people 18 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,439 of just trying to survive. 19 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 20 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm starting to feel like bait more and more. God, 21 00:00:49,439 --> 00:00:52,039 But you know, there's there's also fun in that. There's 22 00:00:52,079 --> 00:00:55,280 also education in that, and I'm fortunate enough to have 23 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,359 learned from the best in the business over more than 24 00:00:58,359 --> 00:01:01,359 a decade, and so every thing we do, even though 25 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:02,960 it looks harrowing. 26 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:03,759 Speaker 1: It looks terrifying. 27 00:01:04,359 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: We've planned and we have safety protocols, and so we 28 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,519 do it so that we can teach you new stuff, 29 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:14,439 new technologies, new science, new ways to stay safe in 30 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,599 the ocean around these incredible animals. 31 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: Well, here in America, we've always loved our spaghetti westerns. 32 00:01:20,439 --> 00:01:22,400 The good guys always wore the white hats and the 33 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,280 bad guys wore the black ones. But I'm learning from you. 34 00:01:25,519 --> 00:01:27,480 The shark is not a bad guy. 35 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: You know. 36 00:01:28,439 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 2: This shark does amazing things to that ocean. 37 00:01:32,239 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Absolutely. 38 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 3: They're what we call a keystone species, which means that 39 00:01:36,599 --> 00:01:39,480 they're kind of like a Jenga tower, you know, how 40 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:42,000 you remove a bunch of blocks from the bottom and 41 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,040 the whole thing becomes precarious and then collapses. You remove 42 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,840 sharks from an ecosystem, and that's what happens to the 43 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,760 ecosystem below them. It begins to collapse. So they're vitally important. 44 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:56,319 We need to protect them more. We need to realize 45 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:58,879 that we shouldn't be afraid of seeing sharks in the ocean. 46 00:01:59,079 --> 00:02:01,400 We should be afraid of not seeing him in the ocean. 47 00:02:01,719 --> 00:02:04,519 Speaker 2: Wow, don't you think though that being the fiftieth anniversary 48 00:02:04,519 --> 00:02:07,480 of the movie Jaws, that people are more involved with 49 00:02:07,599 --> 00:02:09,360 sharks and that your guys's numbers are going to be 50 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,240 shooting through the roof. 51 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 3: Well, that's what we want because then we can break 52 00:02:13,719 --> 00:02:16,199 down the myths. You know, I'm not afraid of sharks. 53 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:18,840 I'm more afraid of people that can't tell reality from fiction. 54 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,599 They're my biggest concern because they're the people that go 55 00:02:21,719 --> 00:02:25,919 out for these shark fishing competitions and kill these beautiful 56 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:27,560 animals for no reason. 57 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: Yep, you know they're not eating them. 58 00:02:29,039 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 3: They're maybe they're keeping them for trophies, but most of 59 00:02:31,439 --> 00:02:33,680 the time they're throwing them in the dumpster, like you 60 00:02:33,719 --> 00:02:35,919 can't do to a land based animal what you can 61 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:38,599 do to a shark. Just because you can't hear the 62 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:41,919 sharks scream doesn't mean you're not making it suffer. And 63 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,159 so that breaks my heart and that's why I me 64 00:02:44,199 --> 00:02:46,479 and my friends on Shark Week, we're always standing up 65 00:02:46,479 --> 00:02:49,599 for the shark, trying to teach people how amazing they are, 66 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:52,719 why they should respect them. Because if you respect something, 67 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:53,840 you'll want to protect it. 68 00:02:54,199 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 2: Please do not move. There's more Shark Talk with Paul 69 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,599 de Gilder coming up next to North Carolina and we're 70 00:03:00,599 --> 00:03:02,919 talking Shark Week with Paul de Gelder. Let's get back 71 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:05,719 to that talk. I'm here in North Carolina and man, 72 00:03:05,759 --> 00:03:07,520 they were talking about that big old shark that was 73 00:03:07,599 --> 00:03:09,719 off our shores this year. I mean, it has become 74 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:13,599 such almost an every summer event anywhere. Sharks in our waters. 75 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,319 Speaker 3: I know, who would have thought sharks in the ocean, 76 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:25,319 That's ridiculous. These are amazing animals that migrate long distances. Yeah, 77 00:03:25,319 --> 00:03:28,759 you had a huge, great white shark out there. That's amazing. 78 00:03:28,879 --> 00:03:31,319 You should be so proud. And imagine getting to see 79 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:33,919 that in real life with your own eyeballs. 80 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,199 Speaker 1: Most people won't have that opportunity. 81 00:03:36,199 --> 00:03:38,639 Speaker 3: And so that's why Shark Week, I think, is still 82 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,280 popular thirty seven years on. 83 00:03:40,599 --> 00:03:42,919 Speaker 1: We get to show you these remarkable animals. 84 00:03:43,199 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: And we live in a world of technology, the wealth 85 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,599 of the world's knowledge within a few key strokes, there's 86 00:03:49,599 --> 00:03:53,439 no reason to use ignorance as an excuse for going 87 00:03:53,439 --> 00:03:56,680 out and getting bitten by a shark. Look Away, you're swimming, 88 00:03:56,719 --> 00:03:59,000 look away, you're diving. Look away, you're fishing. Look Away 89 00:03:59,039 --> 00:04:01,240 you spear fishing, And make sure there hasn't been any 90 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:04,879 sharks or shark interactions close to where you are, and 91 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,280 if there is, maybe go somewhere else, maybe stay. 92 00:04:07,039 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: Out of the water that day. 93 00:04:08,319 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 3: So we need to take the onus on ourselves because 94 00:04:11,599 --> 00:04:13,879 that is their home and that is where they hunt. 95 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: Do you see yourself as a historian of sharks and 96 00:04:17,439 --> 00:04:21,120 or a preacher or a teacher of Hey, hey guys, 97 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,560 open your heart, open your eyes, this is a living, 98 00:04:23,759 --> 00:04:24,480 breathing thing. 99 00:04:26,079 --> 00:04:29,079 Speaker 3: Oh jeez, I've never really thought of that. Probably not 100 00:04:29,639 --> 00:04:33,360 an historian. I wouldn't take that title away from people 101 00:04:33,399 --> 00:04:37,160 that actually studied and dedicate their lives to that. I 102 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,560 like to think of myself as a conduit between the 103 00:04:40,639 --> 00:04:44,519 scientists on Shark Week that have made these discoveries and 104 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:48,160 the audience that is tuning in to listen and see 105 00:04:48,199 --> 00:04:50,920 the action and learn new stuff. I like to be 106 00:04:50,959 --> 00:04:54,000 able to break down what's going on, provide that information 107 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:56,120 to the audience, and also have some adventure while I'm 108 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:56,439 at it. 109 00:04:56,639 --> 00:04:58,879 Speaker 2: What is it with the human being where we think 110 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:02,000 that we can team the wild heart of a shark? 111 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 3: Oh that's why we get married, isn't it? The suckers 112 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:11,079 for punishment? Look man, shark that's why sharks are so special, 113 00:05:11,079 --> 00:05:13,439 is one of the reasons anyway, because they are an 114 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,480 apex predator, and yet you can get in the water 115 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,439 with them and swim with them as long as you 116 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:19,319 show them respect. 117 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: Now, you can't do that to any of the wild animal. 118 00:05:21,720 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: You can't walk up to a pack of lions and 119 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,800 give it a bison leg, or hyenas or wolves or bears. 120 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,839 If you do that, you are risking being absolutely destroyed. 121 00:05:31,879 --> 00:05:36,040 But sharks, we've shown if you respect them, if you 122 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,079 are smart and intelligent beings, which a lot of us 123 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:40,959 like to think we are, then you will do it 124 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:42,959 safely and you can come out the other end with 125 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,040 an incredible experience instead of getting killed. 126 00:05:46,319 --> 00:05:48,439 Speaker 1: And so that's why we like to show. 127 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,399 Speaker 2: In everything that you're doing on a daily basis. Will 128 00:05:51,399 --> 00:05:53,959 you ever figure out the mindset of how a shark 129 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,759 actually thinks and reacts? 130 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,600 Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to leave that up to the scientists 131 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:00,319 because I don't know how to do that stuff. I'm 132 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,879 just the ex military dummy that acts as bait apparently. 133 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 2: Well being somebody who grew up on the oceans and 134 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:10,600 things right there in Australia. I mean, it's one of 135 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:12,360 those things. I mean, when did you know that this 136 00:06:12,519 --> 00:06:15,480 was going to be the path of your choice? 137 00:06:16,079 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 3: After I became part shark, when I was bitten in 138 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,720 a nuclear reactor by radio active sharks, after I got 139 00:06:24,759 --> 00:06:26,519 attacked by the shark. When I was in the Navy, 140 00:06:26,879 --> 00:06:28,879 I kind of focused on just getting back to work 141 00:06:28,879 --> 00:06:32,000 because that was my passion, being a clearance diver in 142 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,519 the Navy, and I thought I was going to lose 143 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,959 that by losing two of my limbs, and so I 144 00:06:38,079 --> 00:06:40,600 fought tooth and nail to get back to work. There 145 00:06:40,639 --> 00:06:44,120 wasn't until around twenty fourteen that Shark Week came along 146 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:46,800 and asked me to co host a show with one 147 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:50,879 of the ogs of Shark Week, Andy Cassi Grandy, and 148 00:06:51,199 --> 00:06:53,879 they let me go diving with great white sharks in 149 00:06:53,879 --> 00:06:56,560 a cage. Andy and I fell off a jet ski 150 00:06:56,759 --> 00:06:59,000 when we got smashed by a wave when the shark 151 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,319 was swimming around, and I was just hooked. After that, 152 00:07:02,399 --> 00:07:04,439 I'm like, I get to learn stuff, I get to 153 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,759 have adventures, and I get to share that with a 154 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,040 massive audience and hopefully teach them about sharks as well. 155 00:07:10,079 --> 00:07:12,959 And so over the years, my passion just grows. 156 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,319 Speaker 2: Wow, you got to come back to this show anytime 157 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:15,759 in the future. 158 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:16,000 Speaker 1: Paul. 159 00:07:16,040 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 2: The door is always going to be open for you. 160 00:07:18,839 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: Anytime, mate. 161 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:23,079 Speaker 3: I've always got some story or some crazy adventure going on. 162 00:07:23,439 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: Will you be brilliant today? 163 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,319 Speaker 1: Okay you two mate, have a great day. 164 00:07:27,399 --> 00:07:27,839 Speaker 2: Thank you.