WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.200 --> 00:00:03.799 He's the pride of Norwich, Connecticut and an adopted son 2 00:00:03.839 --> 00:00:07.240 of Salt Lake City. After forty years with the Utah Jazz, 3 00:00:07.599 --> 00:00:11.199 there's no one better to talk some hoops. Richard Smitty 4 00:00:11.240 --> 00:00:15.000 Smith is back on the Drive on ESPN seven hundred. 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:18.760 Well, little breaking news about a commit for Utah football 6 00:00:18.839 --> 00:00:23.519 in twenty twenty six. Kelvin Obots the number nine overall 7 00:00:23.519 --> 00:00:25.679 recruit in the twenty twenty six class. This kid is 8 00:00:25.760 --> 00:00:30.359 legit offensive tackle. We'll see what that does to Utah's 9 00:00:30.399 --> 00:00:33.159 recruiting rankings. Of course that's not for two years. There's 10 00:00:33.200 --> 00:00:35.320 still football left to be played before we get to 11 00:00:35.320 --> 00:00:37.960 know these young men. It is day two of the 12 00:00:38.119 --> 00:00:41.240 NBA Free agency. Wimbledon's going on. It feels like a 13 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:44.560 great data Richard Smitty Smith, Liven Studio. You've been catching 14 00:00:44.600 --> 00:00:46.359 any of the tennis I have? 15 00:00:46.439 --> 00:00:46.640 You know? 16 00:00:46.719 --> 00:00:54.280 The Wimbledon started Sunday and today earlier today, Cocoa golf 17 00:00:54.359 --> 00:00:59.200 number two seed and the women's singles draw lost right 18 00:00:59.240 --> 00:01:03.359 after winning the Rolling Garrows in Paris and and so 19 00:01:03.439 --> 00:01:06.040 it's a big, big loss on the women's side right 20 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.439 off the bat in the tournament. But that's a big 21 00:01:08.439 --> 00:01:11.400 different spence between playing on clay and playing on grass, 22 00:01:11.439 --> 00:01:15.400 it's a it's a major, major difference in the way 23 00:01:15.439 --> 00:01:18.120 you play the game. And they they make that transition 24 00:01:18.200 --> 00:01:20.719 all the time in the spring, you know, from from 25 00:01:20.719 --> 00:01:23.519 the middle of June, you know, through the through the 26 00:01:23.519 --> 00:01:27.719 middle of July and going on grass over in Europe, 27 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.760 and it's just it's a tougher game. It's a different game. 28 00:01:30.959 --> 00:01:33.480 Cocoa Goff became the third woman in the Open era 29 00:01:33.560 --> 00:01:35.799 to lose in the first round at Wimbledon after winning 30 00:01:35.799 --> 00:01:37.920 the championship of the French Open, So or a pretty 31 00:01:37.959 --> 00:01:40.920 rare thing. Novak Djokovic just one of his ninety ninth 32 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.280 Wimbledon match, which is third all time. So some fun 33 00:01:43.319 --> 00:01:45.719 tennis going on over at Wimbledon. Is that your Is 34 00:01:45.719 --> 00:01:48.359 Wimbledon your favorite major championship? 35 00:01:48.439 --> 00:01:51.239 Well, no, I mean I I enjoy I just enjoy 36 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:53.799 the tennis and you know it all. Had never been 37 00:01:53.799 --> 00:01:59.239 to Wimbledon. My wife Linda has been there, and you know, 38 00:01:59.319 --> 00:02:02.120 my brother on my nephew have been there. And I've 39 00:02:02.120 --> 00:02:04.480 been to the Australian Open and the US Open a 40 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:07.799 one hundred times over the because we go back every 41 00:02:07.840 --> 00:02:11.039 year for the US Open. But Indian Wells of course 42 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:13.479 the last several years. But I haven't been to Wimbledon. 43 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:16.360 That's on my list, and I can never go Spence 44 00:02:16.400 --> 00:02:19.319 because Wimbledon is always this time of year. So working 45 00:02:19.319 --> 00:02:23.080 for the Jazz, it was always the draft, going right 46 00:02:23.120 --> 00:02:26.120 into free agency, going right into summer league, so it 47 00:02:26.199 --> 00:02:28.199 was never a time we were able to go and 48 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:30.919 travel and do that. So I'm looking forward to trying 49 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.360 to do that in the next few years. But it's 50 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.039 a fun, you know, traditional place. It's one of the 51 00:02:37.080 --> 00:02:41.000 one of the grand spots obviously in the sport of 52 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.159 tennis for sure. 53 00:02:42.240 --> 00:02:44.759 All right, let's do the jazz stuff this segment. We'll 54 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:46.800 save the next segment for some of the big picture 55 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.639 NBA free agency storylines. Of course, it's day two of 56 00:02:50.759 --> 00:02:53.520 NBA Free agency, and Smitty, you've been coming on the 57 00:02:53.520 --> 00:02:57.039 show now for a while and it feels like names 58 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.360 like Colin Sexton and Jordan Clarkson have come up in 59 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:03.000 potential tree talks and conversations. Well, we learned what the 60 00:03:03.039 --> 00:03:05.560 market is for those two players, and the answer is 61 00:03:05.599 --> 00:03:07.639 not great. So let's start with the Sexton move. They 62 00:03:07.639 --> 00:03:09.680 had to attach a second round pick to the deal 63 00:03:09.759 --> 00:03:12.879 to get him to Charlotte in exchange for use of Nurkic, 64 00:03:12.960 --> 00:03:15.319 who is a VET that is a backup big at 65 00:03:15.319 --> 00:03:17.960 this point, what do you make of the deal? 66 00:03:18.080 --> 00:03:18.280 Dude? 67 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.439 San Colin Sexton and a second to Charlotte. 68 00:03:21.479 --> 00:03:24.719 Well, first of all, I'm a Sexton fan, and so 69 00:03:24.840 --> 00:03:27.039 I'm the wrong guy to ask, probably, you know, in 70 00:03:27.080 --> 00:03:29.800 that regard because he's even though I get, you know, 71 00:03:29.840 --> 00:03:32.280 they just drafted the Clayton kid and he's probably gonna 72 00:03:32.280 --> 00:03:36.639 take a bulk of those minutes, and they're still trying 73 00:03:36.639 --> 00:03:39.680 to figure out what can't they George is and and 74 00:03:40.479 --> 00:03:43.879 you know what the Williams kid is, and and a 75 00:03:43.919 --> 00:03:46.680 Collier and all that. So I get that that that 76 00:03:46.759 --> 00:03:49.560 part of it. But for me, Sexton is one of 77 00:03:49.560 --> 00:03:52.479 the guys who has proven he can play in this league. 78 00:03:52.879 --> 00:03:57.560 He was He's gotten more efficient every year he's been 79 00:03:57.560 --> 00:04:00.240 in the league. This past year, I thought he was 80 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:05.080 very efficient, played a very tight game during the course 81 00:04:05.120 --> 00:04:07.120 of the year on a team that wasn't winning, in 82 00:04:07.240 --> 00:04:10.039 a team that didn't really care about winning, and he 83 00:04:10.159 --> 00:04:11.680 was one of the few guys who would go out 84 00:04:11.680 --> 00:04:15.159 and compete every night, in my opinion, And so you know, 85 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.199 I understand they're trying to get off his money. And 86 00:04:17.240 --> 00:04:19.360 I understand they're trying to get the young guys, you know, 87 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:22.360 the playing time, and I get that part of it. 88 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:25.839 But when you see him moving a guy who's actually 89 00:04:25.879 --> 00:04:29.040 proven that that he's has some value in the league 90 00:04:29.160 --> 00:04:32.879 in terms of how he plays and his production level, 91 00:04:32.959 --> 00:04:37.160 that's that's sometimes a head scratcher to me. But you know, okay, 92 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.519 that's that's the way they're they're choosing to do their 93 00:04:39.519 --> 00:04:40.279 business right now. 94 00:04:40.360 --> 00:04:42.480 Were you surprised that they couldn't get more value for 95 00:04:42.560 --> 00:04:44.199 him or do you feel like they just wanted to, 96 00:04:45.000 --> 00:04:46.839 you know, find a new home for him and clear 97 00:04:46.920 --> 00:04:47.759 up time for the young guy. 98 00:04:47.959 --> 00:04:51.279 Yeah, I'm not sure how to gauge that spence. You know, 99 00:04:52.160 --> 00:04:54.920 I think he's more valuable than that myself. But okay, 100 00:04:55.360 --> 00:04:57.560 they know, maybe they had their own time frame. They 101 00:04:57.639 --> 00:05:00.199 wanted to get out from under it before the free 102 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:02.519 agency stuff started, so they could figure out where they 103 00:05:02.519 --> 00:05:05.120 were at money wise and whatnot. I'm not I'm not 104 00:05:05.160 --> 00:05:08.480 convinced that Nurkic is gonna be part of uh, you know, 105 00:05:08.519 --> 00:05:10.519 what they're gonna try and do next year. I don't 106 00:05:10.519 --> 00:05:13.480 know if that was Yeah, I'm not sure what the 107 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:16.519 play was there, to be honest with you, unless unless 108 00:05:16.519 --> 00:05:19.240 they like Nurkic for some reason that that I don't see, 109 00:05:20.160 --> 00:05:22.680 and yeah and uh you know, or they think he's 110 00:05:22.720 --> 00:05:27.160 gonna have more value to some playoff type team come 111 00:05:27.399 --> 00:05:32.240 February during the trade deadline, where somebody's gonna want, uh 112 00:05:32.319 --> 00:05:34.319 you know, a big that they can put in a 113 00:05:34.360 --> 00:05:39.279 lineup during rotations in the in the playoffs. Maybe that's 114 00:05:39.360 --> 00:05:41.959 what the the the longer play is here. But of 115 00:05:42.000 --> 00:05:45.279 course he's on an expiring contract next year as well, 116 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:47.920 so you know, a worst case scenario, they have him 117 00:05:47.920 --> 00:05:50.720 on the team for this coming season, they get off 118 00:05:50.800 --> 00:05:53.920 him next summer, They got that money to use next 119 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:56.879 summer and free agency stuff, and they and they move on. 120 00:05:57.160 --> 00:06:00.720 So I think the whole thing with the Jazz is 121 00:06:00.879 --> 00:06:06.120 just a big, evolving moving puzzle that they're going to 122 00:06:06.199 --> 00:06:09.279 constantly keep moving guys in and out of during the 123 00:06:09.399 --> 00:06:12.720 summer and into the fall and even during next season. 124 00:06:12.800 --> 00:06:16.800 I think these next twelve months are all to me 125 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.480 going to be part of a big experiment under the 126 00:06:20.519 --> 00:06:25.399 Austin Ange direction to see how they set themselves up 127 00:06:25.720 --> 00:06:28.759 for the summer of twenty six and then moving forward. 128 00:06:29.360 --> 00:06:31.040 That's what it feels like to me. 129 00:06:31.199 --> 00:06:35.160 So they essentially cut Jordan. They essentially cut Jordan Clarkson. 130 00:06:35.199 --> 00:06:37.600 Technically it was a buyout. If the numbers have in 131 00:06:37.600 --> 00:06:39.439 front of me are correct, that saved the Jazz about 132 00:06:39.480 --> 00:06:42.560 a million dollars in cash. So I have a couple 133 00:06:42.519 --> 00:06:46.879 of questions here. The reaction to the news that Jordan 134 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:49.399 is no longer a jazz man has been really interesting 135 00:06:49.439 --> 00:06:52.639 to follow. People are genuinely sad that he's leaving. The 136 00:06:52.680 --> 00:06:55.920 trade that you guys made for him, in retrospect was 137 00:06:55.920 --> 00:06:58.079 an excellent deal. You moved Dante Ax him a couple 138 00:06:58.160 --> 00:07:01.319 second rounders to Cleveland for Jordan comes here, wins six 139 00:07:01.360 --> 00:07:03.720 Man of the Year, played really well for Quinn, last 140 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:07.800 holdover from that group. So just wonder what your thoughts 141 00:07:07.800 --> 00:07:09.519 are that they've decided to move on from him in 142 00:07:09.560 --> 00:07:11.120 the way that they did. He's going to be a 143 00:07:11.199 --> 00:07:14.439 nick and maybe you can provide some color and context 144 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.279 as far as what he meant to the jazz organization. 145 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.519 Well, I think that I think it's not surprising to me. 146 00:07:21.560 --> 00:07:23.000 I think they've been trying to do that for a 147 00:07:23.079 --> 00:07:26.319 year now. I think they finally got to it. You know, 148 00:07:26.920 --> 00:07:30.800 they found away with Jordan. They couldn't do anything during 149 00:07:30.839 --> 00:07:33.639 the season last year. They couldn't find anybody to bite 150 00:07:34.040 --> 00:07:37.279 on this deal that had, you know, obviously last season 151 00:07:37.319 --> 00:07:40.759 in this coming season under contract, you know, added at 152 00:07:40.959 --> 00:07:44.959 an okay number in today's NBA terms, at fourteen million 153 00:07:45.000 --> 00:07:49.360 a year. You know, I'm not surprised at all that 154 00:07:49.439 --> 00:07:52.920 they you know, they decided to move on from him. 155 00:07:53.040 --> 00:07:54.720 You know, it was just a matter of getting him, 156 00:07:55.879 --> 00:07:57.720 figuring out a way to do what. They couldn't find 157 00:07:57.720 --> 00:08:00.680 a trade partner they liked apparently, so they worked to 158 00:08:00.759 --> 00:08:02.680 deal with him to get a buyout so he could 159 00:08:03.040 --> 00:08:05.360 get the freedom to move to a team where he 160 00:08:05.439 --> 00:08:10.519 feels he can add something to a contending team and 161 00:08:11.120 --> 00:08:13.360 give himself a little bit more spark and a little 162 00:08:13.759 --> 00:08:17.439 more life on the court. Fourteen that's trying to win 163 00:08:17.560 --> 00:08:20.480 and trying to be competitive night in the night out, 164 00:08:21.040 --> 00:08:23.879 and you know, and the Jazz get out from some money. 165 00:08:24.360 --> 00:08:28.279 And that's the whole play here. And look, that was 166 00:08:28.319 --> 00:08:30.920 the play really when they signed him to this deal 167 00:08:31.720 --> 00:08:33.360 that they did a couple of years ago, because they 168 00:08:33.600 --> 00:08:36.399 front loaded that deal at twenty four I think it 169 00:08:36.480 --> 00:08:39.399 was at twenty five the first year, and then fourteen 170 00:08:39.440 --> 00:08:42.200 and fourteen. So the whole deal was set up so 171 00:08:42.240 --> 00:08:45.080 that they could move him at some point during the 172 00:08:45.159 --> 00:08:47.639 last two years. It just took him a year to 173 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:50.080 figure out how to do it. They didn't get a 174 00:08:50.120 --> 00:08:53.120 trade partner, so they did the buyout thing. Saved themselves 175 00:08:53.200 --> 00:08:56.360 a little money. Clarkson gets to decide where he's going 176 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:58.919 to go instead of just being put in the trade, 177 00:08:59.399 --> 00:09:01.879 so it kind of works out for everybody. I'm always 178 00:09:01.919 --> 00:09:05.240 surprised players are willing to give up, you know, any money, 179 00:09:05.279 --> 00:09:07.639 you know, in some kind of a buyout situation. I've 180 00:09:07.679 --> 00:09:11.200 never understood why players would do that, but I guess 181 00:09:11.279 --> 00:09:13.799 that's what you do when you just get to some 182 00:09:13.919 --> 00:09:17.240 point in your life where oh, I have enough money, 183 00:09:17.600 --> 00:09:20.399 that's okay, I'll I'll just leave some on the table. 184 00:09:20.720 --> 00:09:22.279 You can take it, and I'm going to go out 185 00:09:22.279 --> 00:09:25.200 the side door. Okay, I guess. 186 00:09:25.399 --> 00:09:27.600 And it really just begs the question as far as 187 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:32.080 what's next, and to underscore the points that you're essentially making. 188 00:09:33.360 --> 00:09:38.559 It just it feels like Austin as the primary decision maker, 189 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:40.480 has just decided they're going to clear the deck and 190 00:09:40.559 --> 00:09:44.240 next year it's weird, Smitty and we should acknowledge that 191 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:47.600 Austin is a recent higher So some of the messaging 192 00:09:47.639 --> 00:09:50.000 from the front office last year probably is not the 193 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:52.559 messaging from the front office this year. But one of 194 00:09:52.600 --> 00:09:55.440 their cliched lines. And I heard Xanik say this, I 195 00:09:55.480 --> 00:09:58.519 heard Danny say this, I heard Will say this is 196 00:09:58.559 --> 00:10:01.679 they kept saying pups can't raise pups. Okay, so last 197 00:10:01.720 --> 00:10:05.039 year was kind of like Patty Mills, Drew u Banks 198 00:10:05.159 --> 00:10:07.480 will bring in some locker room vets to help these 199 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:09.240 young players learn how to be pros. 200 00:10:09.919 --> 00:10:11.360 Feels like there's a paradigm shift. 201 00:10:11.399 --> 00:10:13.399 It feels like pups this year will very much be 202 00:10:13.519 --> 00:10:15.320 raising pups because it looks like what we're going to 203 00:10:15.360 --> 00:10:17.159 see is just all these young kids playing a lot 204 00:10:17.159 --> 00:10:17.600 of minutes. 205 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:20.200 Yeah, well, I imagine they will. And uh, you know, 206 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.840 there's something that said to be said for veteran leadership. 207 00:10:24.360 --> 00:10:27.480 They're helping young guys learn how to do it. I guess. 208 00:10:27.559 --> 00:10:30.759 I mean, look, we just Joe Ingles is going to 209 00:10:30.799 --> 00:10:34.399 go back to Minnesota another three and we know Joe, 210 00:10:34.919 --> 00:10:37.720 you know, I'm not sure he has anything left in 211 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.639 the gas tank, but but obviously Minnesota sees him as 212 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:47.080 being a valuable member of their group. With this group 213 00:10:47.120 --> 00:10:49.960 of the Jazz, I don't know, you know, the Patty 214 00:10:50.039 --> 00:10:52.960 Mills threw U Banks and I don't. I don't. I 215 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:57.120 never got that anyway, especially when they're they're you know, 216 00:10:57.200 --> 00:11:00.000 they're everybody knows that they're not trying to win games. 217 00:11:00.240 --> 00:11:04.159 So that makes it difficult if you're a veteran to 218 00:11:04.279 --> 00:11:06.559 try and get to get the point across the guys 219 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.600 about you know, this is how we conduct ourselves. This 220 00:11:09.679 --> 00:11:12.320 is how we go about our business every day, working 221 00:11:12.360 --> 00:11:15.879 hard in practice and staying late, arriving early in the 222 00:11:15.919 --> 00:11:18.799 weight room, whatever it is. And and and guys are 223 00:11:18.799 --> 00:11:20.720 asking in the middle of the game like like, uh, 224 00:11:21.120 --> 00:11:23.120 you know, to do what what are we're doing? We're 225 00:11:23.240 --> 00:11:26.000 gonna lose by twenty anyway, what's what's the difference? So 226 00:11:26.039 --> 00:11:31.480 that that's a very tough, uh complex thing that I 227 00:11:31.480 --> 00:11:36.159 think is just very difficult for an organization to manage, 228 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:38.960 you know, and keep everybody going the right direction. You're 229 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:41.559 either you're either trying to put your best foot forward 230 00:11:41.879 --> 00:11:44.360 and you're trying to to to to do the best 231 00:11:44.399 --> 00:11:47.240 you can every night, or or you got a different 232 00:11:47.279 --> 00:11:50.679 agenda and guys learn learn things differently, and they they 233 00:11:50.759 --> 00:11:54.440 certainly uh get can get into good habits and they 234 00:11:54.480 --> 00:11:58.120 also can get into bad habits depending on what your 235 00:11:58.200 --> 00:12:01.679 organization is is asking you to do from one moment 236 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:04.159 to the next. So you know, we'll see, I mean, 237 00:12:04.200 --> 00:12:07.720 the Jazz just they're they're in this great uh flux 238 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:11.559 area right now, and they've got new new sheriff in town, 239 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:15.759 as they say, and you know, we'll see again. But 240 00:12:15.840 --> 00:12:18.639 Austin ain't isn't trying to pull the Donald Trump thing. 241 00:12:18.679 --> 00:12:21.000 You know, he's not like what man on an island 242 00:12:21.039 --> 00:12:24.320 trying to run everything. You know, He's got valuable guys 243 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:27.279 with him in the room, and not the least of which, 244 00:12:27.320 --> 00:12:30.759 of course, is his dad. And he's got a very 245 00:12:30.759 --> 00:12:35.320 involved owner and so that plays into it somehow. And uh, 246 00:12:35.559 --> 00:12:37.720 but they got a lot of guys in there voicing, 247 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:40.440 you know, opinions about what they should do and how 248 00:12:40.480 --> 00:12:42.759 they should be handling their guys and all that. But 249 00:12:42.799 --> 00:12:45.799 it's no uh, it's no secret and it shouldn't be 250 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:49.240 that that that they're gonna play their young guys a 251 00:12:49.279 --> 00:12:51.360 lot of minutes and have them in some kind of 252 00:12:52.039 --> 00:12:56.799 set rotation as the season starts in terms of minutes 253 00:12:56.960 --> 00:13:01.120 and responsibilities and and seeing you know what these guys 254 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.000 can can figure out going forward. 255 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:04.960 So it brings us to John Collins. 256 00:13:05.440 --> 00:13:07.960 That's the next name tone in on, and we'll get 257 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:10.120 to some others because I honestly don't know how this 258 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:14.120 is going to play out. Twenty six point five mil 259 00:13:14.360 --> 00:13:17.200 expiring this year. This is the first time they've had 260 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:20.240 him with an expiring contract. I don't know how much 261 00:13:20.399 --> 00:13:24.279 of that plays into the ability to move on from him. 262 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:26.679 You can make an argument, Smitty that last year was 263 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:29.279 his best year as a pro, maybe second to the 264 00:13:29.360 --> 00:13:31.840 year he had in Atlanta before he got his big contract. 265 00:13:32.399 --> 00:13:34.799 But if you're a GM and you're running a team 266 00:13:34.840 --> 00:13:36.919 and Austin calls you and says, what about John Collins, 267 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:37.480 what do you say? 268 00:13:37.720 --> 00:13:39.960 Well, first of all, you know John Collins has a 269 00:13:39.960 --> 00:13:43.840 big number for what John Collins does. Yep, right now 270 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:47.759 in the NA Now, he played very well last year 271 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:50.679 my opinion, on a team that wasn't trying to play well. 272 00:13:50.840 --> 00:13:56.120 So I give him credit for that. He's he's a 273 00:13:56.159 --> 00:13:58.960 big guy, he's a fluid guy who can play inside 274 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.919 and outside. It depends on the team. It depends on 275 00:14:02.000 --> 00:14:04.799 who else they got on the floor with him playing. 276 00:14:05.960 --> 00:14:07.840 You know, I have to I have to admit I 277 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:10.399 liked him better last year than I did the previous 278 00:14:10.480 --> 00:14:13.720 couple of years. I was never a big John Collins guy. 279 00:14:13.840 --> 00:14:16.720 I always thought, you know, he played in second gear 280 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.799 and never really was busting it out on the floor. 281 00:14:19.879 --> 00:14:23.159 But but last year I thought he played well, uh, 282 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:26.080 you know, for for most of the year on a 283 00:14:26.159 --> 00:14:29.279 team where it was difficult to play well and to 284 00:14:29.320 --> 00:14:33.639 put your best foot forward. And so you know, they're 285 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:35.279 gonna have to try and find a team that that 286 00:14:35.480 --> 00:14:38.639 is willing to uh to take on his money. I 287 00:14:38.639 --> 00:14:41.039 don't know who wants to do that. The Jazz may 288 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:42.960 have to try and do something, you know, where they're 289 00:14:43.000 --> 00:14:45.919 willing to take on keep you know, taking on some 290 00:14:46.000 --> 00:14:48.159 of the money and do some kind of a deal 291 00:14:48.240 --> 00:14:51.360 with that with somebody. It's gonna be difficult to move him, 292 00:14:51.360 --> 00:14:54.440 I think, merely because of the money that he makes. 293 00:14:54.440 --> 00:14:58.960 So they're gonna have to have something involving his money 294 00:14:59.039 --> 00:15:02.279 and how they handle that if they in fact want 295 00:15:02.360 --> 00:15:03.559 to move on from him. 296 00:15:03.879 --> 00:15:06.240 I'm gonna ask you about the other transactions, just because 297 00:15:06.279 --> 00:15:09.159 they were made. We might have ten seconds for each 298 00:15:09.200 --> 00:15:12.080 of them. They wave Johnny, they wave Johnny Jews. 299 00:15:12.159 --> 00:15:15.159 Come see now now that shows you're not being serious. 300 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:16.399 What do you actuct like that? 301 00:15:16.440 --> 00:15:17.320 What do you know? 302 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:17.600 Like? 303 00:15:18.559 --> 00:15:21.000 I mean, well, I mean was there did you think 304 00:15:21.039 --> 00:15:22.440 there was a place for him at the end of 305 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:22.840 the bench. 306 00:15:23.080 --> 00:15:26.440 No, no, no, I've never been at Johnny Jusi and 307 00:15:26.519 --> 00:15:28.879 guy you know, all these G League guys they've been 308 00:15:29.200 --> 00:15:32.639 playing the last year or so. You know. Again, you know, 309 00:15:32.679 --> 00:15:35.480 we can debate that all we want about, you know, 310 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.600 why they have a G League team if they're using 311 00:15:37.639 --> 00:15:40.519 the Jazz as their G League team. But okay, that's 312 00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.600 that's what they're the route that they're choosing to go, 313 00:15:43.639 --> 00:15:46.559 and so far the fans are going along with it 314 00:15:46.559 --> 00:15:49.320 because the fans are paying full boat money to come 315 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.879 see a G League team play on the floor. Okay, 316 00:15:52.519 --> 00:15:54.360 you know, you guys want to do that, go ahead. 317 00:15:54.679 --> 00:15:56.279 You know, I don't know how long that will last, 318 00:15:56.519 --> 00:15:58.639 you know, but that's that's what they've been doing. And 319 00:15:59.000 --> 00:16:02.799 guys like Jews and you Banks and Micah Potter and whatever, 320 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.240 they're just you know, they're they're like seat fillers at 321 00:16:06.240 --> 00:16:09.320 the Oscar Oscars to me, you know, I mean, they're 322 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:11.960 just not You're not getting anywhere. You're spinning your tires. 323 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.639 That's my opinion. Now that's probably why I'm sitting in 324 00:16:14.639 --> 00:16:18.320 the radio station instead of being over in their meetings, 325 00:16:18.399 --> 00:16:20.559 you know. So that's you know, that's the way they're 326 00:16:20.639 --> 00:16:22.600 they're they're going about their business. 327 00:16:22.639 --> 00:16:25.320 Oh you just gave me ninety seconds on Johnny jew Zang. 328 00:16:25.320 --> 00:16:26.559 I didn't think we'd be able to do that. 329 00:16:26.840 --> 00:16:30.039 Hey, you know, well, look he was very good. He 330 00:16:30.120 --> 00:16:33.200 had a very nice career at UCLA, you know, after 331 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:36.840 transferring from Kentucky and and played himself well and got 332 00:16:36.919 --> 00:16:39.159 himself some NBA money. Okay, I don't know if he'll 333 00:16:39.159 --> 00:16:42.519 get an NBA job. He's really a EuroLeague A type 334 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.679 player to me, and where you can have a nice career, 335 00:16:46.120 --> 00:16:48.519 you know, as we've seen a lot of our local guys, 336 00:16:48.600 --> 00:16:51.879 you know, Jacon Carroll being one of them, having a 337 00:16:52.320 --> 00:16:56.080 terrific career Real Madrid for a decade, and Johnny Juzang 338 00:16:56.120 --> 00:16:58.600 should be over there, you know, with one of those teams. 339 00:16:58.639 --> 00:17:00.840 That's my opinion. But you know, I'm not his agent, 340 00:17:00.960 --> 00:17:03.879 and and I'm certainly not in an NBA team that 341 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:05.799 might try and and give him another chance. 342 00:17:06.039 --> 00:17:09.119 And equally compelling news they've guaranteed the deals FEMA Kai 343 00:17:09.200 --> 00:17:09.839 Luke this year. 344 00:17:10.079 --> 00:17:12.400 Yeah, And I don't know what to say about that either. 345 00:17:12.920 --> 00:17:16.000 That's another that's another placeholder. I'm not I'm not sure 346 00:17:16.319 --> 00:17:18.599 what that what that's about. He's probably a good guy, 347 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:22.400 you know. I mean again, I watched him play when 348 00:17:22.400 --> 00:17:26.680 he was fifteen sixteen over in Europe. He hasn't gotten 349 00:17:26.680 --> 00:17:29.000 any better. He's just you know, he's just a guy 350 00:17:29.000 --> 00:17:31.319 out there every now and then he makes a couple 351 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:35.039 of shots in the game. Okay, and uh and again. 352 00:17:35.079 --> 00:17:37.799 But he's a guy who could be having a much 353 00:17:37.839 --> 00:17:41.200 bigger career and a more substantial one if he chose 354 00:17:41.240 --> 00:17:43.519 to play over in Europe where he's from. And he 355 00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:46.119 may end up doing that at some point, but the 356 00:17:46.200 --> 00:17:49.200 Jazz have decided at least to guarantee his kind of Now, 357 00:17:49.279 --> 00:17:51.359 that may be something where they just want to keep 358 00:17:51.400 --> 00:17:53.680 his contract, you know, in their back pocket in case 359 00:17:53.680 --> 00:17:55.880 they have to use it as a filler in some 360 00:17:55.960 --> 00:17:59.039 kind of other move where they have to either take 361 00:17:59.079 --> 00:18:01.599 back money or give money or something like that. So 362 00:18:02.000 --> 00:18:04.039 they could also be a play like that down the 363 00:18:04.079 --> 00:18:04.759 road as well. 364 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:05.559 All right. 365 00:18:05.680 --> 00:18:09.240 So it brings us into this space where, you know, 366 00:18:09.279 --> 00:18:11.160 all we can do is read the riding on the 367 00:18:11.200 --> 00:18:13.039 wall here and try to read the tea leaves where 368 00:18:13.079 --> 00:18:17.160 Clarkson is gone, Sexton is gone every time I open 369 00:18:17.279 --> 00:18:19.480 up anything about what could be next. And the Jazzer 370 00:18:19.559 --> 00:18:22.680 mentioned everyone says they're talking to teams about John Collins. 371 00:18:23.240 --> 00:18:25.440 Do you think they're talking to teams about marketing? Do 372 00:18:25.480 --> 00:18:28.200 you think they're having conversations about Lowry? I don't know 373 00:18:28.200 --> 00:18:32.079 if they're having any active conversations. I haven't heard anything 374 00:18:32.599 --> 00:18:35.920 from any of my sources around the NBA about that 375 00:18:36.240 --> 00:18:38.759 kind of stuff going on. I think they would certainly 376 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:44.960 entertain any conversation about any guy based on the current 377 00:18:45.039 --> 00:18:47.839 status of the team, and that is something that there's 378 00:18:47.880 --> 00:18:51.400 still there's still at the starting line and they're still waiting, 379 00:18:51.599 --> 00:18:54.000 you know, for the gun to go off to start 380 00:18:54.039 --> 00:18:56.960 the race, and they're still trying to formulate what their 381 00:18:57.359 --> 00:18:59.880 team looks like in that regard. So, you know, I 382 00:19:00.039 --> 00:19:03.359 don't think Marketing is untouchable. I don't think Kessel is untouchable. 383 00:19:04.839 --> 00:19:07.000 You know, any of their guys certainly would be in 384 00:19:07.079 --> 00:19:11.160 a conversation based on what other teams are looking at 385 00:19:11.319 --> 00:19:13.640 or what they would have to offer, and how the 386 00:19:13.960 --> 00:19:17.599 how the Jazz headed up now by the main decision 387 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:22.039 maker being Austin age, how they view what they're trying 388 00:19:22.079 --> 00:19:24.799 to do in terms of the overall makeup of their group. 389 00:19:27.200 --> 00:19:30.400 Hello, so I have the I have the Jazz payroll 390 00:19:30.400 --> 00:19:30.880 in front of me. 391 00:19:31.200 --> 00:19:32.400 Okay, I got to ask. 392 00:19:32.440 --> 00:19:34.000 I'm going to ask a question before I ask what 393 00:19:34.039 --> 00:19:35.960 I want to ask to make sure that my understanding 394 00:19:36.000 --> 00:19:36.359 is correct? 395 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:37.079 Is correct? 396 00:19:37.680 --> 00:19:39.960 Is it possible that they have a team option on 397 00:19:40.079 --> 00:19:41.720 Taylor Hendricks after this year? 398 00:19:42.799 --> 00:19:46.279 Yeah? Well yeah, Well, the way that the NBA contracts work, 399 00:19:47.519 --> 00:19:51.000 the rookie contracts are four year deals. The first two 400 00:19:51.119 --> 00:19:55.119 years are guaranteed, the third year is a team option, 401 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:59.119