Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to an episode of Challenges, the podcast
all about the challenge as always. I am Brian sitting
in his bedroom talking to his kids through Alexa as
he only knows how to parent.
Speaker 2: They go gat Sweet Tea.
Speaker 1: Sitting up in Minnesota dreaming about when she gets to
go down under next Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because it's seventy degrees down there and it's negative nine here.
Well not meymore, but Carl in San Diego.
Speaker 1: And sitting at work being disappointed he didn't buy tickets
to go to Minnesota in February. Zach het every challenge
about dot com to the Facebook. It's the end of
the season, you know this.
Speaker 2: Man, everybody's running out of steam this season.
Speaker 3: I really liked this episode.
Speaker 2: Dumb, You're dumb, then stupid.
Speaker 1: Everybody's fired except for me, Tim, I'm fired, So now
it's just you.
Speaker 2: Oh no, fuck. Well, I don't know what to do.
I don't know what to say. No. Now, this is
the dul drums. We talked about it last week, you know,
episode sixteen seventeen eighteen. It's like they're just torture, They're miserable.
We're all ready for this to be done. This sea,
this episode was super slow and dumb.
Speaker 3: Legitimately, I finished this episode and had the exact thought
of Tim probably hated this episode because we're in the
doldrums of the season. Yep, and I really liked this
episode tonight.
Speaker 2: Thirteen is the number of episodes the season should have.
Any more than that, It's ridiculous. This season is ridiculous.
Speaker 3: We're never gonna get thirteen episodes again. I know, going
to be just that. I mean, unless it's All Stars,
it's never going to be just that All Stars.
Speaker 2: Because it's thirteen. It's perfect. It's perfect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, this I will agree with David saying this episode
did not need to be ninety minutes. It could be.
It could have been an hour. There was a lot
of filler in this episode. I will say the.
Speaker 2: Later ones are all this way. They're all this way,
very clearly patted out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, sorry, we'll fee what were you saying?
Speaker 1: It also happened in this episode.
Speaker 2: I don't know what Carlin's got. The Carlin's got.
Speaker 1: This also happened in this episode.
Speaker 3: I mean, Tim can try, but all will work.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Corey went home.
Speaker 3: Boo spoilers.
Speaker 2: I know, all right, miss.
Speaker 3: Season forty, Episode sixteen must win Era newsplash spoilers. It
was not a double elimination, which I was really hoping
it would be.
Speaker 2: Nope, I knew it wouldn't be. I called that shit.
Speaker 3: I was hoping that it was going to be because.
Speaker 2: You're hoping for the end of the season, because you
are also recognizing we're in theduldrums. Yeah, yeah, I just
I was hoping.
Speaker 3: They Oh yeah, so this week they didn't start with
like the normal last week on they did a full
life flashback of the entire season, lots.
Speaker 2: Of it, didn't eve notice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a full like two minutes of just
like flashbacks and all that sort of thing of the
entire season. And then we had the actual flashback was
the when Big Easy like straight up died in the final.
Speaker 2: Loved this flashback.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a good one.
Speaker 2: One of the just quintessential like challenge moments. I love
that Brad was the only guy on that team wanted
to hold up for Big Easy. You guys, remember that,
was it Brad or was it CT?
Speaker 3: I thought it was CT.
Speaker 2: No, it's a good guy, Brad.
Speaker 4: That was Brad, Which is funny because I know if
you guys realized the last week they they are showing
the flashback of Nea Mayah being the last black man
to win the Challenge and exact same episode and season.
Speaker 3: Oh that was the same, the same season, different teams.
Speaker 4: Huhy I one was because Easy died.
Speaker 2: Yes, sort of a win by default, not a great
win either, but it counts. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you think nowadays if they had someone on their
team who died in the finale, would they let the
team continue or would they just pull that person and
the or would they pull that person to let the
team continue, or would they disqualify the entire team.
Speaker 2: It really depends on the season, because in Cutthroat they
would have let people, They let people off the team.
But that's the one where like Laurel almost died and
Abraham was puking all over himself and ship.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, lot, Laurel, it was I thought it was
Kara almost. Oh no, maybe it was Laurel. You're right, Lord, Sarah,
Sarah died Sarah.
Speaker 2: But then, yeah, there's other seasons they don't let you,
So I don't know what the you know, it just
depends on the rules that season.
Speaker 4: Yes, I think our most recent example is when Olivia
bust up her face and he else you wanted to
keep going by himself and yeah, but that was Pears.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a partnership.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think pairs, regardless of the season, they're
never going to let the other person just continue on
as a single person. But if it's a team, if
there are three or more people, what was that one,
two or more people, what was the team?
Speaker 2: Was it War of the World's or War the World's
two or whatever? Where Polly was.
Speaker 3: Dying, Oh yeah he did. He did get his ship
together enough to like continue going on. He was definitely dying.
Speaker 2: I can't I couldn't remember how that how that story ended.
He kept going. They didn't pull him out, and they didn't. Okay,
remember when.
Speaker 1: West carried Kenny up a hills? Yeah, Wes got carried
up a hill.
Speaker 3: Yep, after carrying Kenny metaphorically all season.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I just I wonder if nowadays, like if they would
pull the entire team, or if they would just pull
that person and let them continue. Really just food for thought. Okay,
we're back in the house. Everybody's congratulating Jenny. I don't
I really don't care for Jenny.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I never need to see her again.
I'm done.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think she's one of the best female athletes
we've ever had, but she's not great television.
Speaker 2: She's boring and kind of weird. Yeah, super interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't even know that she's necessarily one of
the I mean, she objectively is a good athlete, but
she gases the fuck out when there's anything that's endurance.
The preview for next week is gonna be it shows
her gas in the fuck out.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Mandy just said to you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's also depend It might
just be like her current you know, cardio status, because
we did see her win a season where she not
only won her gender but beat Bananas as the first
person there.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm aware. I just I just don't care
for her.
Speaker 4: She's just nah, it's just not entertaining television.
Speaker 3: No, it's not like there were the number of references
to Halo's and Angels that she made in like a
one minute period was excessive, and.
Speaker 4: We lost an angel last week that was very depressing.
Speaker 2: No, No, it wasn't.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't.
Speaker 2: We were all fine with that.
Speaker 4: He deserves better.
Speaker 1: Shouldn't aligned herself with the losing team.
Speaker 2: Ye should have been taller and stronger, shot collar and
at six or four, I'm Paula.
Speaker 3: We also get Cory complaining about being a target again,
to which he complains to Kylon and Kylon tells him
to suck it up because Kylon has also been a
target four times.
Speaker 2: So Colin hasn't been in this saying three times though, right.
Speaker 3: No, he has a budd season.
Speaker 1: He was in five, he was in.
Speaker 3: Five last season, yeah, which Corey has had a lot
of that as well. I just it cracked me up
when kind of like I've been in four times too,
like don't bring your ship to me, but we gonna
We get a talking head from Johnny saying that Corey
sounds like the car salesman of the challenge right now,
trying to.
Speaker 1: Just not aware that he's just talking about himself.
Speaker 3: No he's not, but it still was funny.
Speaker 4: I agree, he's not talking about himself.
Speaker 1: He is talking about.
Speaker 2: No, Zach.
Speaker 3: That was not a no. He's not talking about himself.
Speaker 4: That was a no.
Speaker 3: He doesn't realize that he is talking about himself because
Johnny absolutely is a used car salesman.
Speaker 4: He's like the high class like you know, it's not salesman.
Speaker 3: Zach was in here yesterday last week when we were
talking all kinds of shit about Johnny so good a.
Speaker 4: Did Tim stand up for bananas while I was gone, Yes.
Speaker 2: I did, Yes, I did. Don't don't listen to the episode.
Just take my work.
Speaker 1: He jumped in on.
Speaker 2: The Nope, Nope, I was on your side of all
the time he spoke for you spoke on your behalf bullshit.
Speaker 3: We also get Kara and Derek talking and she think
really the only thing that came at that was her
telling him that he basically played a perfect game. And
then we're very rapidly onto the challenge.
Speaker 1: You can't just like run through ship and expect me.
Speaker 4: Too.
Speaker 3: You know what's going on.
Speaker 2: You got to watch the reflection on his glasses. If
it's him scrolling through Facebook or porn, give him a second.
Speaker 3: I me scrolling through porn. That's not my problem.
Speaker 1: I'm going to post the pre show the Patreon.
Speaker 2: Oh is that one?
Speaker 3: We have a Parker challenge, which cham was so excited
about our group chat. He watched the episode Have it
your Way.
Speaker 2: You ruled it?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Wolfy was so excited that he had Burger King for
dinner tonight in honor of this challenge.
Speaker 2: We're in the challenge spirit. I thought you were the
Challenge grinch this year, but look at you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it takes a lot to talk me into Burger King.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Burger King's not great. I feel like every time
I've had them, their burger has been super dry.
Speaker 1: McDonalds.
Speaker 3: Do you guys think Donalds is better fries?
Speaker 1: Though? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Let Zach talk Jesus, you guys think the challenge approaches
Burger King? And is Burger King approach the challenge?
Speaker 2: I've never thought to give a ship about that, Zach.
Speaker 5: That's my next thought has been, like, like, let's say
Burger King's approaching them, Like why don't do we ever
get like McDonald's their Wendy's reaching out and like we
can up that they're giving you like twenty wappers will
give you thirty big necks.
Speaker 2: Remember it used to be Chili's, so Burger King Burger
King must have come in and taken out Chili's for
the for the shitty food sponsor. Chilies is a better
place though, right chick and salsa.
Speaker 4: I used to not like Chili's, but I've come around
on in the like the last year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you get there, Zach, you're a picky eater, Yeah,
if you buckle it.
Speaker 1: No, it's just I'm not taking Zach's word on anything
food related.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm interested. That's what I'm interested. That's what I'm.
Speaker 1: Interested in now I do. I'm just like, well, there's
lots of stuff you didn't used to.
Speaker 3: Like, there's lots of stuff you currently don't like or
don't want to try because it sounds weird.
Speaker 2: But that's why I'm interested. Like, what do you what's
your what's your go to at Chili's?
Speaker 4: Still? I mean so awesome? Probably a Chili's like five
times in my entire life. Sometimes I think I think
I usually get the ribs with like.
Speaker 3: The the baby back, baby back, baby back ribs, like
the Cajun corn.
Speaker 1: Can do you go for Cajun corn?
Speaker 3: That's what I was about to say.
Speaker 4: Wow, I love Caigen.
Speaker 1: An enigma wrapped in a riddle. It's the Cajun part
that's throwing me off.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because cage is typically pretty spicy.
Speaker 4: Oh, I love spice for that Cajun alfredo for dinner tonight.
I put Cajun season on almost everything.
Speaker 3: You like spicy? Since when do you like spicy.
Speaker 4: I've always liked spicy, although I will say the last
like six to nine months, my age is catching up
with me. My body doesn't like spicy as much, but
I still like it.
Speaker 2: Do you use the Tony's Cajun spice? Is that your
Is that your thing? Is it like a green green
shaker bottle thing?
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Now I'll have to look like
a what what brand it is?
Speaker 1: But slap your mama Cajun?
Speaker 3: Hold hold on back up. You like spicy food, I'm
so stuck on the I what I mean.
Speaker 4: I've always loved it, like hot wings around my favor
its actually have some jerky at home. I think I've
said to Wolf and Tim I'd bring it to them
like it's so spicy, like I love spicy foods even I.
I'll take like one.
Speaker 2: Bite of that and then I right now, this is
this is not shocking to me because spice is like
a spicy like a spice. It's not it's not a flavor,
a texture or anything.
Speaker 3: So I get that doesn't like all kinds of ships.
Speaker 2: But spices, like like a hot spice is just like
a spice. You know, Yes, that's not weird to me
it doesn't. It's not really like a flavor, you know
what I mean. It's like it's I don't you know
what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: No, I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 1: It's not a flavor.
Speaker 3: Doesn't normally when people have weird food things, they don't
like spicy things because it's a weird food thing, Like
it causes your mouth to do things that it doesn't
normally do. Like the fact that he doesn't like that
he likes spice is blowing my mind. When he doesn't
like things like juice vegetables.
Speaker 1: Carlin wants to know what that mouth do.
Speaker 4: I will say, like I would never be like, cut
up a jalapeno and gave me a slice. I would
never eat that, not because i's spice, just because of
the actual like texture and of it. But if you
like grind it up.
Speaker 3: Chris wants to know what that mouth does too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you like grind it up and mix ito
something like in Alaska, we have this butcher chop that
makes this best halabino cheese and it's to die for.
That's what.
Speaker 2: It's a texture thing, right, It's like a sensory thing
the foods, Right, It's not A. Yeah, it's not a
it's not necessarily the spice pure and taste.
Speaker 4: Yeah, depends like on the item.
Speaker 3: And see that's the thing. It's texture and taste and
spice is a huge thing with conversation that I'm gonna
that I just can't seem to be lost on right now. Okay,
we need to move on because otherwise I'm just going
to continue spiraling into this.
Speaker 2: I hate they already do. Wait till we get to
the reviews later.
Speaker 3: Oh sweet, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 3: Uh oh, okay, so we're under the game. Apparently this
game is something that's been on TJ says that it's
been on the books for years, but they've never found
a place where they have the perfect location. And my
thought to that was it had absolutely nothing to do
with the location and everything to do with the liability
of this challenge. And I have a feeling that because
they're in Vietnam, they have finally found a country who
is okay with taking on the liability, with them taking
on the liability of throwing people off a cliff in
a car. What do you guys think?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, Yeah, I think that this is one
of these This is another one like, it sounds really
cool to plan a challenge like this, but you're actually
watching it, this is not a cool challenge. Really. The
puzzle is then like just sort of sitting there and
shoving little things in and out, and then they just
sort of sit there while the car drives itself. Yeah,
and then like the long it's just like a long shot.
I have a car into water. I don't know. I
was just like super bored, like one second in and
then they're just swimming. I don't know, I don't know.
I just I thought it would be way cooler.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I thought that the car's gonna go like super fast,
like you know, hit a jump, go fly in the
end to get yanked out by the cord. But it's
like just a slow roll off the edge. I'm like,
that's good boring.
Speaker 2: See.
Speaker 1: I thought a better version of this would be to
do the puzzle. You have a certain amount of time
do the puzzle. You don't get it in time, a
car takes off, goes over the cliff with you in,
it ops out. You have to like swim to the
finish line, where if you do the puzzle, you can
like just get out of the car and run to
the finish line. I feel like that would have been
more exciting. There's like a ticking clock aspect to it. Yeah,
oh shit, yeah, I gotta get this done.
Speaker 2: Yep. I think there's a lot of you. And also
I think that MTV like they do these big events
right with like explosions and fires, but they don't actually
look all that good on TV. I'm sure, like when
you're there, it's cool, but you look at a show
like Survivor, those challenges are way cooler to watch and
they're just digging through sand and stuff, and I don't know,
I just think these challenges are more engaging. Like these
mini finals where they're where they're just running and climbing
through stuff and digging. It feels more like, yeah this,
I don't know, this just didn't do much for me.
Speaker 4: I mean, I would even love for them to just
go back to some of the old basic challenges like
trying to eat a nice you know, ball of ice
go without your hands, or you know, rubbed the soap
off of a of a pole with your body.
Speaker 2: Yep. Yeah, they've missed the mark trying to make these epic.
It's like, all right, now we're just watching a car
go off a cliff, like, I don't know, what.
Speaker 3: Should you guys say, the more it makes me realize
that this challenge was kind of boring to watch, But
it might just be because I was watching it while
at work, so you just.
Speaker 2: Needed it to be bands plaining to you, So you're welcome.
Speaker 3: I also so, okay, I guess I haven't actually explained
the game. So the game is called fire Plunge. They
have to sit in the car and solve the puzzle
where there are like twelve plugs and they have to
take those fell plugs and only four of them actually
plug into anything that works, and they have to get
those four up and running. And once they get those
up and running, they have quote unquote hot wired the car,
and then the car will move forward and be pulled
off a cliff with them in it. But they are
attached to a safety line, so as the car plummets down,
they get pulled out of the car and are just
hanging off the edge of the cliff. And then it
doesn't show it, but that safety line obviously lowers them
down so they're only like ten feet off the water,
and then it drops them into the water and then
they have to swim for fifty for five hundred meters,
which is a that's a pretty serious swim. Um. Yeah,
so that's the that's the challenge. The fastest man and
woman when slowest are obviously the losers. Johnny has a
thirty second penalty because he was the last place person
last week. Jordan absolutely kills all of this. He like
machine in the water, seems to get through the puzzle
really quickly.
Speaker 2: This is another one too, where this this one above
any other challenge I think we've seen this season. We
need the fucking times on these things. We have absolutely
zero clue how anybody does we see? Like Kyland, I
don't know. To my is kind of like he was
doing okay, but Banana said he was slow, but nobody
else said anything. And nope, we don't have a time,
Like how did Kyland do? We don't know. Banana's with
his thirty second penalty, how did he rank? I don't know,
he just didn't get last, Like I don't Why aren't
they telling us things? Yeah you know what I'm saying, Yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 4: If I don't want to see them during the challenge,
like because then like once someone goes over their time,
you know they lost but love. Yeah, like it was
scoreboard at the end of the challenge where it shows
here's everyone's final times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need that, we need that.
Speaker 3: Oh it was nice to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah the love.
Speaker 4: So David pointed out. I think it's David in the
chat that said, uh that, uh yeah that he had
it took ninety minutes after each round to reset this.
Did you guys want to that too, because that's my
first albe I watched the car going is as like
DoD they have like ten of these cars or they
haven't pulled it out every single time and bring it
back up to the top of the cliff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I only saw it in the water, like from
an actual area shot when the aerial shot when they
were dropping someone in. I only saw it in the
water once because the tires were bright green. See, it
looked like they were pulling it out every single time.
And if you notice, like you can kind of tell
from the angle, like how dark things started to get,
Like towards the very the last or two people, it
looked significantly darker outside than it did the first few. Yeah,
so I'm sure that that challenge took all fucking day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you said it Carlin, but it wasn't. They
didn't like, it wasn't like the car splash, and then
they unclipped. I bet in real time it was like
the car splashed, and then they let the car fucking
sink to whatever safe level, and then they lowered the
contestant one hundred feet or whatever. You know what I mean.
There's probably like twenty minutes they're dangling there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it didn't even look like the car went down
that far. Like the the aerial shot where you actually
saw the wheels. It looked at the wheels were only
like five feet under the water, So I bet you
had water where it landed was not very deep.
Speaker 2: Well, then they had to move the cable to so
the challenger could drop in a safer space or something.
I don't know, but I'm sure this had a lot
of setup and yeah, tear down.
Speaker 4: Yeah, if I was a challenge like a producer of
the actual like daily challenges, I'd be so pissed when
I shut up and they told me I had to
call a car up to the top of the cliff
ten times that day.
Speaker 3: Yeah they're kidding, Yeah, because apparently that cliff was three
hundred feet tall, which it didn't look quite that tottle
bit who knows. I will say so, I'd forgotten about
this because I kind of blocked it out. But I
did fast forward through a lot of this because during
this challenge, as they were plugging in all of these
different things, there was a ton of filler in here.
Almost every single person went through and told us their
reason for why they did the challenge and why they
wanted to win, and why they love this game. Hate
that shit, I do not care.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Swanny in the chair, Hey Swany, we haven't
seen Swani for a while. So Tory said her artist
wasn't buckled in right beforehand before takeoff, and TJ saved
her by telling production TJ literal literal superhero, yeah literally, why.
Speaker 3: We should thank him on the on the album.
Speaker 4: Well, now we won't know. You know, what happens if
someone dies in a final or in a competition.
Speaker 3: Well, if she died in the competition, that we wouldn't
have seen this entire season.
Speaker 4: The show would really be over. That answers that question
from earlier about what they let them keep going.
Speaker 3: Versus figurative dying two different things.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 3: Uh, let's see where was I? Oh, Yeah. So Jordan
absolutely kills all of it. He does a great job
in the super fast swim, all that sort of thing.
Derek fucking fails miserably on the puzzle. He takes so
long from the looks of things on the puzzle.
Speaker 1: It's weird.
Speaker 2: I thought he was supposed to be a good puzzle guy.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's been really good on all the other puzzles.
It was very strange.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't don't count him out yet, Tim.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this may have just not been the
right kind of puzzle for him.
Speaker 2: Who knows.
Speaker 3: Kara. Kara does not do well on the swim, as
she likes to put it, or as she puts it
in the in the show, she is an average Joe swimmer,
which I agree like if any of us were out
there swimming, we probably would have looked like her. Uh
in a in a field of Michael Phelps.
Speaker 2: Yeah, excuse me, Wolfy would have been.
Speaker 3: A Michael Phelps in a field of average Joe's among us.
Speaker 1: As long as we're on.
Speaker 2: The same page, Are you a good swimmer, Wolfy?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 2: Do we have any good swimmers on the on the podcast?
Speaker 3: I was at one point in time, but it's been
like twenty five years.
Speaker 4: So no, no, I'm an average Joefish sure, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm Carl Maria esque. Yeah, yeah, I
can get there. I'm not gonna drown. I'll get there,
but it's yeah, probably not very fast yep.
Speaker 3: Sam Michelle says that she could beat any woman in
that house in a swim. Apparently she's very good at swimming.
She didn't look any better than any of the rest.
Speaker 4: Of them though.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but if he gives a time, you know,
that'd be nice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true. If they give us a time that
we might be able to see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Otherwise, Yeah, what the fuck do we know? We're
just taking these people's word for it.
Speaker 3: Yep. Ultimately, the winners end up being Tory and Jordan,
and as TJ says, Bik comes to the party and
gives them both five thousand dollars a piece. M Rachel
is super upset when she doesn't win. She thought that
she thought that she had this one in the bag.
Speaker 2: M h. And again I want to know how far
behind Rachel was. Yeah, why aren't they like, why do
they sell it to us? A little bit with Rachel
saying like, oh I was I thought I was because.
Speaker 3: They can't fudge the numbers if they give us the
actual times.
Speaker 2: Still it's gross. I hate it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think that's the reason, because they could
definitely fudge the numbers if they told us we don't
know what the numbers are now, they could tell us
any number they want true. Believe it true?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I guess I would. I would believe it even.
I guess that's the good point, Zach. I'd believe whatever
the fuck they put up there, and it doesn't mean
it's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then the losers end up being Kara obviously and
Derek and unfortunately for Corey because Jordan has won, and
because Derek has lost, Corey's automatically going in because Corey, Jordan,
and Derek were the targets for this week. Yeah, and
then it's you know, surprise, surprise, Burger King has provided
a feast for everyone, and.
Speaker 2: Ultimately I think this works out well for everybody. Uh.
Jordan obviously doesn't have to go in, and then Corey
and Derek because neither of them like they don't have
to battle each other out nominations or try to sell
each other whatever. When they do talk about it, like
they're cool, like they're fine with each other, you know,
And so it's kind of a it's a kind of
a nice change of pace to see them talking at
this bar.
Speaker 3: And yeah, well this is the second time we've seen
this happen. The last time it was with the ladies,
but yeah, I mean it's or was it with the ladies.
It might have been with whatever. It's happened twice now,
but yeah, it also like it saves the person of
the opposite sex who won from having to make any
enemies as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Toros is definitely left out. Yep, pretty chill
rest of the episodey have very little politics and convincing
and all the stuff that we usually see from here now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so we go straight to the bar where
everybody is just shoving their faces full of b K.
I will say, there's a shot of Jenny sucking on
a straw from a b K drink. Her lips look
fucking crazy.
Speaker 2: They like describe them.
Speaker 3: They like full duck lips. And there will only be
a few people who get this. But if you know,
you know, they were reminiscent of Taylor's lips when she's
eaten cotton candy from the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
It's just it, Like I said, you.
Speaker 1: Don't bring that trash here.
Speaker 2: What was what was she drinking out of the straw?
Speaker 3: I don't know whatever she was drinking from a cup,
but it just her lips out there.
Speaker 2: I have a huge I have a weird thing about
this though. This is not for me, but I used to.
This is actually a wolf be my buddy Shay. His
first wife. His first wife, Pam was obsessed with her teeth.
She was really upsessed with having white teeth. And so
she would drink every drink out of a straw so
that it wouldn't touch her teeth. And it was very
distracting because she would put the straw back pretty far
back in her mouth, and then her mouth would have
to like stretched a weird way because strawtraw. Yeah kind
of yeah, because you wanted to shoot the liquid like
past her teeth. You know, that's weird. Is that what
Jenny was doing?
Speaker 5: Jenny?
Speaker 3: And Jenny, No, I had nothing to do with that.
It was purely because Jenny has had so much lip
filler and I realized I realized this, Uh, No, Jenny
has had so much lip filler that her lips were
just like they were. They caught it as a profile,
so you could see how far out her lips stuck
as she was sucking on a straw, and it's just
it looked crazy.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. I love it. It's like an overinflated donut.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, just nuts. Yeah, it's stuck out in my memory.
It still sticks out.
Speaker 2: Obviously, I need to go back and find it. It's
a lot I need to find it.
Speaker 3: So we get uh, Derek talking to Cory about elimination
Day and they're both saying, you know, well, we're gonna
do well something, and Derek happens to tell Corey that
elimination Day happens to land on his late sister's birthday,
so he's feeling real emotional about it. This is kind
of a theme that carries through the rest of the episode.
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh, And but it made sense by the way,
every confessional we saw of Derek this episode, the guy
looked fucking crushed and so sad and defeated, And the
whole time I was thinking, well that there's gone home
because like, how fucking Saddy isn't every confessional So it
definitely misled me on that. But it was like, now
I know, it's just it's all this his sister's stuff.
Speaker 3: Yep, We've got Jenny, Tory, and Rachel are all talking
and they're all like Rachel's telling them that she was
really bummed, and they're just you know, hyping her up
like you've done really really well this season and they're
doing that toller like we're competitors and all that.
Speaker 2: Gross.
Speaker 3: And then we get a talking ahead of Jenny talking
about how Derek owes her favor and how she's gonna
cash in on this favor because we're at the very
end of the game and she feels like he owes
her and I mean, I guess technically he does.
Speaker 2: But no, he does not. He does not. He doesn't
know her.
Speaker 1: I love this because she's like, well, you know, since
I did this for you, I would love it.
Speaker 2: And he was just like nah, yeah, sweet, because I
don't think Jenny did it for him, right. She sort
of saved him accidentally because there was more choices that
she picked. So her point was like, well, I didn't
throw you in when I could have, but like that's
not but what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because when later on when she is talking to
him yet Not only does she say that, but in
her talking head she talk or in their conversation, or
in the one of the two, she talks about how, like,
really early on in the game, I saved you, so
now at the very end of the game where it
means so much more, you should save.
Speaker 2: Me, and you were one of nine guys who I saved,
and I am the only woman you will save.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the only woman in comparison to the two
people you've been working with most of this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's insane, It's insane what she's doing here.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: David says that Derek Jenny interaction really shows how after
she is at the social game one hundred percent.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, this is the ship that I think Karl
and I like, this is like the stuff that you
don't like Jenny, Like when and when you see her,
it's like, what are you doing? Why are you saying
these words? Like what the fuck's wrong with you?
Speaker 3: Pulled almost this exact same move the last time we
saw her, like in the last game that she played, yeah,
like two or three seasons ago, and we thought the
same thing then, like what the fuck are you doing? Yeah,
Like I could understand pulling this move, like trying to
pull out this card three episodes ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but right now, yeah, no, not right now. No,
it's not even with a shot. It's not even worth
a shot. Yeah, three episodes ago, it's worth a shot. Yeah, yeah,
I try it.
Speaker 4: Even if she'd pulled them aside, you know, the rounds
she's saved Kim and like found on one on one
being like, hey, I want to work with you. I
got your back. You know, I'm gonna look out for you.
Because then at least, you know, she can say like hey,
like I've had your back this entire game. Yeah, just
kind of out of nowhere where she's like, hey.
Speaker 3: I saved you. I kind of saved you that once.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you got to pull them aside and like really
make them feel like hey, like by me saving you,
this means now we have like something going that in
the future we can build on.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, this is far too little, far too late. Sorry, Jenny,
Yeah you've done.
Speaker 3: Um, yeah, we've got let's see what else.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: Johnny Bananas is talking to all the guys and telling
them about like, oh yeah, being in a final. He's
trying to scare the guys who've never been to a
final like Kyland and Derek. Oh, being in a final,
it's fucking terrified, Like you're so excited to get there,
but then it's terrifying to be in it.
Speaker 1: It's just I just wouldn't know. You guys would know.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you Derek was. But Derek was
in the All Stars Final.
Speaker 3: Maybe scared, but it's it's so obvious what you're trying
to do.
Speaker 4: I think I even said in this episode though, that
Derek had never been to one. So I wonder if
they don't even count All Stars finals as real finals.
Speaker 1: No, because last last do we counted or not? Together?
Speaker 2: I agree with because last last episode somebody said we've
all been to a final except for Kylon. You know
somebody somebody else threw that out, so you know who knows.
Speaker 3: Yeah, then we're back in the house.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: Carra and Michelle have kind of done the same thing
for Derek that some of the ladies did a few
episodes for Michelle's birthday. They set up Derek's bed with
candles and you know, trying to make him feel real
special and basically hold space for him and his reaction
to the next day and the fact that his it's
his sister's birthday without her being there. It was I
found this very sweet, but at the same time, like,
this is a challenge.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've done this before, right, He's been featured
with this Beyond thing with the All Star seasons.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like, yeah, they featured him the season
that she passed away. Yeah, she passed away, and then
he was there like two or three weeks later.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was Michelle that I was thinking of. She
was the other one that had never done a final.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: Oh we get Corey calling his baby mama's talking all
of his kids.
Speaker 2: Oh crushing ador.
Speaker 1: Stop.
Speaker 2: It's nice to see Cheyenne and uh writer the first
Challenge baby. Look at how old that challenge baby is now? Yes,
the first Challenge baby, wasn't it? The first of the
first couple that met on the challenge had a baby.
Speaker 1: Tory and Brad.
Speaker 3: Tory and Brad, they have two.
Speaker 2: Kids, right, yeah tell him Brad?
Speaker 1: Yeah what your boy, Brad and you about his kids
in his face?
Speaker 2: So really, fuck that one up?
Speaker 3: Yeah you did?
Speaker 2: You're right, Yeah you did. I really did you.
Speaker 3: No longer get to call.
Speaker 2: Him your boy, No, I still can't watch me, watch me, dude.
Speaker 4: Even before that, I don't know kids, but.
Speaker 2: Sean and uh Rachel don't don't don't don't know. Those
people don't exist anymore. Future no stop stop stop ross stop.
Speaker 1: Practically brought his kid on the challenge. Wouldn't that be
the first challenge baby?
Speaker 2: But that wasn't that wasn't an internal challenge baby. You know, Betty,
Betty was not show.
Speaker 3: That's the only baby that's ever been on the show.
Speaker 2: That's not true. Blues blues little baby. Wasn't she pregnant?
Speaker 3: That was?
Speaker 2: That was? That was Gladys That's right, Yes, but yes,
there's a bunch of pregnant ladies. Yeah, I have quite
a few.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Melissa and Natalie so disappointed.
Speaker 2: In you, Tim, I know I'm disappointed myself. But what
can I say?
Speaker 3: Yeah, lots of lots of.
Speaker 2: A challenge a challenge baby, that writer a challenge baby.
Speaker 1: And then there's the one Tory and the other Derek.
We're gonna have if they want.
Speaker 4: Oh god, that was Did anyone else find it interesting?
Just how desperate Chien seemed to see Corey like that.
That did not just seem like, hey, we have a kid, here.
Speaker 1: That seemed like.
Speaker 4: They had something going on the side.
Speaker 2: Hmmm.
Speaker 4: No, she just seemed like just the way there was.
She was like just talk about how much she missed
him and wanted him to come home and like that
just like seemed like I want you. You know your
child misses you. That seemed like I miss you, like
come home with the money.
Speaker 1: I didn't pick any of that up. No, I got
that she's been on the show, she knows the experience,
and she was like, you've been doing this long enough,
you better get a wind.
Speaker 2: Yeah I got. I got good co parent vibes from this.
I got like good friend, friendly, playful co parent. I
didn't get any and requited love type ship.
Speaker 1: My thought was, I'm glad they're on such good terms
they can like sort of roast each other over.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it seems kind of good natured ribbing. It
seemed kind of like fun I just found it funny.
Speaker 3: That like Corey calls his current girlfriend to talk to
his first two uh younger kids and has to also
call cheyennes he can talk to his other kids. I
don't know, I just found it funny. How many more baby.
Speaker 2: Mamas you got? Don't judge don't judge Carlin.
Speaker 4: How dare you?
Speaker 2: It's just how there you?
Speaker 4: He's probably got a contract to got called to promote
team mom.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, AMBERB has had a challenge baby too, right,
what Chauncey.
Speaker 2: But they met outside of the challenge right then she
brought and then she brought him in. That doesn't quite count.
That doesn't really count. Got to meet on the challenge.
Challenge has to bring you together, according to your rules.
Speaker 1: People who met on the challenge, won a challenge and
then had two children and were married and then have
since been divorced don't count either.
Speaker 2: Hey, I said I was wrong, Wolfy, What in what
world did I said? I didn't count? I immediately said
I was wrong.
Speaker 3: I'm just I love I love that we get to
roast you about this, and now like, god, this is great.
Speaker 2: Well, I think you guys just look stupid because I
already admitted I was wrong about that.
Speaker 1: You're the one who looks stupid.
Speaker 2: I did forget my boy Brad.
Speaker 3: Yep. But none of this, None of this matters because
Cory goes on Yeah, yes, we're on to eleven.
Speaker 1: God damn it. I even set that up and im
he wasn't even ready, I'm too busy laughing at Tim.
Speaker 3: All right, this elimination is called closing time.
Speaker 2: The game Wolfe.
Speaker 1: You want to explain the game, How does that title
even make any sense with this?
Speaker 3: Because the gate was closing, that's stupid.
Speaker 1: So you have to wind up this crank that lifts
the door. Then you run in and carry bricks around
the other side. Then you have to create the challenge
forty logo, and then you can't do it in the sand.
You have to stack all your bricks on whatever platform
platform and whoever gets it done first once yep.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like the sand thing was the strategy
that threw the that that defined how these players played
this game, right, stacking the bricks on the platform as
opposed on the sand.
Speaker 3: I actually I really enjoyed this elimination too. It was
I thought that the because this elimination to me was
kind of i mean, obviously very different game, but somewhat
reminiscent of like a not so fast that sort of thing,
like where there's some strategy, there's some.
Speaker 2: Endurance, there's strength.
Speaker 1: Chris points out, basically the elimination was the puzzle that
cost Johnny the final he was in. But I will
correct that and say that that is the puzzle that
Johnny Bananas quit on during the final.
Speaker 2: But that was that was sort of what he said, right,
is that you you get that, you get a wrong
start on these center block puzzles and you're kind of
fucked like you kind of have to get it right away.
And and yes, Carlon, you nailed it. Like Derek treated
this as all three of those all at the same time,
Corey treated this as strength first and then puzzle later.
And it was the wrong strategy clearly.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think if they had had the ability to put
things on the sand, they could have. You know, Corey
would have brought them over and kind of spread them
out a little bit more and started putting things together.
I actually I really enjoyed the addition of you cannot
put things on the sand until you get all forty
eight blocks over there. I thought that was a that
was a very fun twist.
Speaker 2: I thought so too. But I do wonder why Corey
didn't just continue to pile his shit up and then
when he had all the things, then you take them
all down, because there was a time where he was
he wasn't taking him off the platform. He was still
rearranging them on the platform, and it's like, that's got
to be that's got to take you longer. Just stack
those bricks up randomly, get all forty eight, and then
take them all off again.
Speaker 3: It's because he's Corey. I know, he's just not a
smart person channeling his inner puzzle king as many times
as he wants, or will never be good at puzzles.
Speaker 1: You don't need all of the blocks to finish the puzzle.
Speaker 2: Oh I didn't catch that.
Speaker 1: Carry all the blocks over would eat up more.
Speaker 2: You're wasting, You're wasting some.
Speaker 3: I didn't think you have to have all of them
over there to finish the puzzle. But you could. You
could start, you could start putting it all together.
Speaker 1: Nope, someone pointed out, because I think Derek went back
to get more, or maybe it was Corey and Jordan's like,
you don't need those, you don't need those.
Speaker 3: No, but Jordan, and at least the way that I
interpreted that was that you can start finish it, like
putting your puzzle together without all of the blocks. There
beings the more blocks.
Speaker 2: That's how I that's how I met That's how I
heard it too.
Speaker 3: The harder it is to put everything together. So you
have to have all forty eight in order to complete
the puzzle, but you don't have to have all forty
eight to start completing the puzzle.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's how I heard it too, But it was
I never saw Corey put anything into the sand. Why
didn't he just get the rest of the fucking blocks.
But I agree with you, Carl, and like Corey. I
love Corey. I have nothing but amazing things to say
about Corey. But he's just dumb. He's just not He's
not that smart, and that is why he's never gonna
win the show. He lacks that thing that like Jordan
and Bananas and West and like these, like these greats
that can sort of see the game in a different
way and do it in the best, smartest way. Corey
doesn't have it. And I don't know if he can
learn that skill. That's that's a tough one.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I really appreciated Derek's strategy to this. So Derek's
strategy was to kind of build up sections of this
puzzle back where you pick up the cinder blocks and
bring them over in stacks of two or three already
put together in like a zero or with part of
the challenge logo that sort of thing, and then bring
them over there. But as he was bringing them over there,
he made sure that the side that had the writing
on it was first face to him as he's carrying it,
and then when he got it there, he put it
down so that it was not facing towards Corey. And
he even rather than putting it around the back side
of the platform, he put it on the sides of
the platform and like stacked things up on the sides
so that he could get all forty eight of them
over there and then just rotate those ones on the
side to the side that's facing Corey so that it
was like just a real quick face towards Corey and
then be done so that Corey couldn't see the answer
of what the logo was supposed to look like. I
thought that was very smart on his part.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Derek did this pretty much flawlessly. And yeah, you'd
have to be pretty good to beat Derek here.
Speaker 3: I think, Yeah, he did a great job on that. Hmm. Yeah,
I'm I don't see anything else in my I mean,
there wasn't really anything else here. Derek won this pretty handily,
like I've done, They didn't show Corey's stack. Towards the end,
they only showed Derek's side, which makes me think that
Corey's was way behind.
Speaker 2: I think so too, And I kind of think once
Corey saw that it was done, I'm not sure Corey
kept going, you know, so at that point, like you know,
I know you disagree with Wolfe, but that's kind of
where Bananas was on that final. It's like, if I
start over, I lose, So why start over? Just fuck it?
Speaker 3: I mean, agreed, But at the same time, that's still quitting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah it is.
Speaker 3: I don't think, Yeah, we know that, you don't think
that that's quitting.
Speaker 2: But Corey, you know, to his credit, gave ran over,
gave Derek a big heartfelt hug, like you can tell.
And Corey believes these things that he's saying. He's like,
you killed it, you did great. I you know, you
deserve it. I'm glad I lost to you.
Speaker 3: Like, yeah, Derek is very emotional about his win. And
I've made a point to say in my notes that
Corey is a super gracious loser. Like he he comes
over and he's jumping with with Derek, like you did
so good. Go kill the final, like Corey has Corey
is a super super gracious loser. It was it was
very impressive to see, Like it shows just how big
of a person he can be.
Speaker 2: Ye give me and I think that. And now, I mean,
I just think Corey is a good human in that way.
I just think he's like he can next with people
and he likes them. And we saw him with Nelly
and how excited Nelly was with see Cory, and yeah,
I just think Corey's is that is that kind of guy?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Corey seems like a genuinely fun human being.
But yeah, he's just never gonna win one of these things.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's too bad.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: The new targets, Derek has to pick targets now, he,
like he told Jenny, comes down to the numbers, like
I can't say you can't go in or you won't
go in. So he picks Jenny and Rachel obviously, And
then we get a quick talking head from Kara saying that,
you know, because he has to choose between me and Michelle,
I have told him to go ahead and put me
and so he doesn't have to choose that again. So
he thanks her for taking that off his plate and
chooses Kara, and then we get TJ you know, and
he does his like I lied kind of kind of
thing where he takes a minute and thinks about things
and ultimately tells them they're changing locations. Doesn't tell them
where they're going, just tells them, and it's going to
be a lot less green. It looked just as green
in all of the previous but whenever. So they're changing
locations between now and next episode.
Speaker 2: Yep. Location change. It used to be happen every season,
but we haven't seen a location change in many, many years.
I think that's one of the things like cod COVID
killed it, and I think this is the first time
we've seen it back.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: It's also kind of interesting because he says the next
time I will see you, we will be in a
different location, which I interpret as we are not going
to have a challenge and an elimination before we change locations.
So we're going to take four guys and five women,
which that usually doesn't happen. Usually they do the final
elimination of that fifth person before they do that locate
like it's you, you do this and you get to
go to the next location. But if you fail you
get to go home.
Speaker 2: I bet they'll do like a final agents or a
free agents type of thing and eliminate one of the women,
like right before the final starts.
Speaker 3: Well they have I think they have to eliminate. That's
when they should be going down to three people.
Speaker 2: Well, then then they'll be if they eliminate one woman,
it'll be the it'll start with four four men for women,
and then at some point, you know, double elimination during the.
Speaker 1: Final or something showed them doing another challenge.
Speaker 3: Yeah, normally they don't. Normally they don't do final with
four and four. They do a final with three and three.
They purge up the last two right before the final starts.
Speaker 1: They do a final, they do, they do the final,
and then they purge during the final.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we saw that with like Casey and Nannie and
Ship like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they start with four and go to three.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Carlin, who's the challenge amateur? Now look
at you, Look at you. But let's make an let's
make fun of Carlin for saying something slightly wrong one
time because your.
Speaker 1: Fucking internet your pictures all blurry again, Ship that I
have no point.
Speaker 2: My internet fucked me again. God damn it. It was
so good for a while and then I know, and
I was about to just really just have a great point.
Speaker 3: Have we lost Saggie Bananas completely?
Speaker 4: I'm still here.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just haven't heard you in a while.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you have how much to say? And
if there's any social media news to share with you
guys when we get back to it.
Speaker 3: Well, we're at the end of the episode.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey, do we haven't reviewed him? We do, we
have one, and unfortunately this might be the last review
we ever read on the show because that charterable shut
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low note as we like to do. Perfect Challenge fan
O five leaves us a one star review titled I
don't know Stove, maybe Stove? Are you challenged? Fan O five?
I used to really look forward to the show. It
was fun to hear their thoughts on the Challenge as
well as the review for the week. Lately, the show
has really taking a turn when they finally get to
record in the show, which seems to be whenever they
feel like a lot of time. I don't know, I
don't care. That's just weird. It's always Thursdays, right, that's
weird at eight every week? So you're wrong, they're a
challenge fan of five carl and get ready, Carlin is
the worst in my opinion. You think she just flat
out hates the Challenge, which, if this is the case,
why be on a podcast all about the challenge?
Speaker 1: That'd be me.
Speaker 3: Say, I think he's got the wrong person on that one.
I came in saying that I really liked this episode.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, this episode. This is a this
is a bummer of an episode. The great season though
so far, they always criticize challenges for being dumb. Oh yeah,
and or air headed. Yeah that's true. Yet there isn't
one episode where they don't get off track talking about
random things that have nothing to do with the challenge. Yeah,
that's offensive, challenge.
Speaker 1: How dare you challenge fan when you have your own
podcast as you want.
Speaker 4: I don't know about you, guys, podcasts sometimes when people
get off track and just kind of talking.
Speaker 2: About totally are absolutely it is. Uh, if you guys
hate the challenge so much, maybe it's time to call it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, apparently I'm not the only one who hates
the challenge, because it goes from Karlon hates the challenge
to you guys hate the challenge.
Speaker 2: So I do not hate the challenge. I like the season.
I've been very pro this season. This is the first
episode I think where I've been like act, come on,
I really like the season. Too, Let's get over this ship,
let's be done.
Speaker 3: I think Wolfy's the only one who's who's having real
issues Woolf.
Speaker 2: He's been the Debbie down or this this season. For sure.
Speaker 1: I don't have any issues. I'm just I'm over the challenge.
That's not an issue.
Speaker 2: Well, podcast about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we still haven't had any kind of announcement for
season forty one, so it's really might be the end fingers.
Speaker 2: I think it's it. I think it's it. I think
it's it. We're gonna We're gonna All Stars five and
that's it. It's done.
Speaker 4: So I don't know, because I was looking at some
stuff and like people have been to point out, like
ever since they started doing these All Stars and spin
offs that they've only been filming once a year and
it's usually not until like May to June, so we
still have like several more months, like because like season
forty was filmed this last May.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but we knew the people who were going really
early on. Like, I don't know, it just it feels
like we it's been a really long time since we've
had any kind of announcement for this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I don't know, that's all I care about that.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be surprised if this is if they're gonna,
like as Bravo likes to call it, they're going to
put the show on pause, yeah, which really just means
they're just never going to bring it back. There's sunsetting
the show without saying they're canceling it. And I mean
maybe they'll do all like All Stars might air on MTV.
There was the whole rumor about an airing on MTV.
In all reality, it'll probably air on Paramount and then it'll.
Speaker 4: Be done and depending if you trust him. And I mean,
I've told you, guys, Carlin that I have one alumni
who's already told me that they're confirmed for forty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: But Nya's full of shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I just don't think it's Zach no offense to you.
I put zero stock in that. And it's not that
I don't think that happened. I think that Nia said
that to you. I just don't think n knows anything.
And I think if a casting director told her that,
I don't think a casting director knows anything either, because
these are decisions that are like five or six steps
above them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like that's one of those things
that the challengers would say anything they need to to
try and kind of keep the interest in this, because
like all of any other reality TV show, if you
ask the members of that show, oh, are you gonna
be on next season, they'll do the I mean, of
course I am, even if it's a very well known
thing that they have been let go.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, so we'll see. And David says, Paramount
as a company is in financial trouble and MTV was
just part of that deal to that other thing, and yeah,
I don't know, just seems like a weird thing. It
seems like weird shit's happening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I will have the faith that it's coming back.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 3: No, I have no faith that it's coming back.
Speaker 1: Hey, does somebody want to do.
Speaker 2: Leagues?
Speaker 4: Or yea?
Speaker 2: Are we not going to talk about land and being
a date rapist? We're not there yet, Jesus Christ, all right,
I just really want to talk about that.
Speaker 3: We're not there yet. So Zach, do you have the
host league or do you want me to just pull
up the stuff on my end?
Speaker 4: Just put up on your end. I'm in the vehicle
right now, so I can't look it up.
Speaker 3: Okay, so Zach, as we do know, traded away to
Tim because Tim lost all of his players. It away Michelle, Corey,
and Kyland. So Zach still had Jenny, Jordan, and I
think it was Olivia. He still had someone other, someone else.
So Zach is now down to just Jenny and Jordan,
which still pretty decent team. He's still also beating the
absolute pants off of all of us, but Wolfe is
coming up. At least according to the scores in here,
Zach is at thirty nine hundred points and Wolfy has
broken three thousand.
Speaker 2: And Wolfe's pants are off and he's coming up, is
what Colin said. Just want to say that, just going
to restate that.
Speaker 3: I'm just so Wolfy on his team still has Johnny,
Tory and Kara again, super fucking stack team. I'm in
third place at twenty two hundred points, so it was
solid seven hundred points behind Wolfy. Uh, and I have
Derek and Rachel and then Big Uncle Sweet Tea is
pulling in at third with eighteen hundred points and he
has still on his team. He has Michelle and Kyland.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks Sech, Thanks again, buddy.
Speaker 3: So we'll see how this goes. But I have a
feeling that Zach is going to win very happy.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling too. I don't give a shit
about this one anymore. I've I've totally just just into
the public league now, yep, I've abandoned, abandoned that one.
Speaker 3: Public league. First place CT Phone Home at thirty one
fifty six, second place is myself with thirty one oh nine,
and third place is I touched Johnny's Banana with thirty
six four. I was really hedging my bets on this
week being a double elimination. So even though I only
had twelve players left and it looks like we now
actually still have at least three more episodes, I put
in four players. Now I only have eight players for
the next three episodes.
Speaker 2: Which I also only have eight I've only have eight.
Speaker 3: Could be an issue, but I was thinking about it today,
like putting four players in next week and then or
maybe putting in three players I don't know, three players
next week, putting in one player of the week after,
because if it's a two part.
Speaker 2: We'll see too weasy.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean it's game talk, and i've how are
you planning on doing it? Ten?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but there's thousands of people that listen
to this episode, and there's like forty people that play
the game.
Speaker 3: So I think a lot of people are all of
the thousands of people we talked about the game every week.
Speaker 2: I know, and they should don't join it. This is
more fun than I thought it would be. It is
actually fun. It is and it took me a while,
and now I see the strategy. I'm getting it. I'm
getting it. That's that's why I'm number six. I'm in six.
Fucker's six.
Speaker 3: Big Uncle Sweet Tea is coming in at six, that's right, right,
with twenty eight thirty three, that's right. It's doing a
real good job.
Speaker 2: I wanted to make top five and I'm how many points.
I'm like thirty points a top five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're at twenty eight thirty three, and Whoppers
for Life.
Speaker 2: Is at fifth with Christina Christina I think it's her name. Yep.
You take fifty points to get that watch Out, watch
Out Christina.
Speaker 3: Mm yeah, you're coming in close.
Speaker 2: I know I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And then we've got Zachie Bananas is in at eighteenth
with twenty five oh.
Speaker 2: Five and.
Speaker 3: Wolfy whatever last is thirty third because Wolfy hasn't put
any picks in since episode eleven.
Speaker 2: Lame Wolfy. Now you've got a lot of good players left, though,
you should start playing them now, make comeback.
Speaker 4: Yeah uh.
Speaker 3: And then the the public Budget League for the Crisp
High five, which I mean, honestly, both of these might
be a Chris High five because if we don't have
any episodes after this season, then there's no guest spot.
Speaker 2: We get All Stars five All Stars five after the season.
Theoretically All Stars five has been shot. We'll see, we'll
see All Stars five.
Speaker 3: All right. So Budget League first place ct phone Home,
second place I touched Johnny Spanana, the third places men,
and fourth place is ct Chew Chew Chew chew train Uh. Zach,
he's in at eighth on that one, and big Ucal
Sweetee's in at tenth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I take bigger risks on that one. Not doing
so good on that one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was kind of I like that one because
it's kind of fun because you can you can gamble
more money on the bigger players, and for a while
some of the big players were super cheap because it
made a whole lot of big moves.
Speaker 2: Yet yep. So it's getting harder now, Yeah, yep.
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's where we're at with the Fantasy League.
They are lots of fun. If we do this again
for all Stars, everybody should join. It's a really good time.
You just have to pick your players once a week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Zach, could you do social media stuff?
Speaker 4: So for this week, we only have one thing from
this current week, which is that d got engaged to
her boyfriend of two years who des d oh.
Speaker 2: Who cares, probably dr and her fiance probably Yes, sorry
that was I just I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: And then from last week, since I was in here,
Tim brought it up a little bit. Tim might remember
the details than I do, but yes. Someone posted an
image from a Facebook group about are we dating the
same guy? In Denver? And it was a picture of
Landon claiming that she had been going on a date
with this guy and just found.
Speaker 2: Out he was married and gave us in this right.
Speaker 4: Llle just gave his initials, posted a picture of him,
and some Challenge fans very quickly recognized him and spread
it around the Challenge social media world.
Speaker 2: It's funny, the Facebook guy. It's like a screenshot of
this Facebook group of yeah we dated the same guy whatever,
And then the first comments were like, is that the
guy from real world? Like all these people are commenting
about it? Yeah, you know that seems it seems like
land And cheat on his wife with this lady.
Speaker 4: So there's a podcast I listened to and they the
hosts live in Denver, and they actually do a section
every single episode about this Facebook group. So I'm I'm
like months behind, but I'm kind of get caught up now,
just as honestly, if they discuss this land And post in.
Speaker 2: This oh interesting, all right, we'll get an exclusive exclusive
dish if you find something, Zach, Yeah, all right, interesting.
We'll stay with from landa guys Landon will date rape
you if you find him?
Speaker 1: What is this date thing you keep?
Speaker 4: There?
Speaker 2: Was it?
Speaker 3: There was a comment on There was a comment on
this whole thread that is unverified, but there was a
comment on it where some woman said that Landon had
date raped her.
Speaker 2: Was the person posted it? Was it? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I really hope that that is not true, but
I don't know either way.
Speaker 2: It's a podcast, I can say whatever I want. That's unverified.
I mean, you might as well come at me Landon.
Speaker 1: Nothing else matters anymore.
Speaker 2: That's right, that's right, Come see me Landing.
Speaker 1: Well thanks. Everybody had every challenge but dot com joined,
the Facebook group, joined, Patreon, join all that stuff. Uh,
I guess that's it for this episode of Challenge.
Speaker 2: It's been Brian big Over, Sweety.
Speaker 3: Carlin, san Diego, Zachu Bananas and his Burger.
Speaker 1: King says you rule.
Speaker 3: Charlotte Ala Si.
Speaker 2: He called her dad mhm