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<v Speaker 1>Adventist Radio London inspiration.

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<v Speaker 2>For the song.

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<v Speaker 3>Talking Point.

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<v Speaker 4>It's talking great, it's talking Point conversations.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to have.

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<v Speaker 1>Good evening.

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<v Speaker 3>Good evening, and welcome to another edition of Talking Point.

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<v Speaker 3>I trust and pray that you've had a good week

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<v Speaker 3>thus far.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the second installment of our series. In the

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<v Speaker 3>beginning was the Word, and it's just a play on

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<v Speaker 3>the text, but really it's a decision by us to

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<v Speaker 3>start the new year with a deep dive into the

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<v Speaker 3>Word of God. To help us do that past to

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<v Speaker 3>Nick is back and he's going to take us through

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<v Speaker 3>another of the beatitudes. So we're really looking forward to that.

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<v Speaker 3>We really enjoyed last week and I'm going to just

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<v Speaker 3>maybe brief free cap or will do a brief recap

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<v Speaker 3>before we move into the second slide. As it were, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>how are we doing. Let's just do a sound check

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<v Speaker 3>and just ensure that everybody's on and everybody's okay tonight.

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<v Speaker 3>I have with me the usual I want to say suspects,

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<v Speaker 3>but I'll stay away from that. Our usual co host

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<v Speaker 3>uh Pedro's on evening, Petro Angie and of course our

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<v Speaker 3>US member Malember. How are you guys doing? Patro maybe

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<v Speaker 3>if you kick us off.

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<v Speaker 5>Good, good evening everybody, and welcome to Talking Point. Yep,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm back. I missed last week. I'm so sorry we missed.

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<v Speaker 5>You had a previous engagement that I had to go to,

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<v Speaker 5>so it was nowhere else it was gonna be too noisy,

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<v Speaker 5>so I couldn't joy. I really I hate that I

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<v Speaker 5>missed it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, good to have you back.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yes, it's good to be back. Thank you. You're sure?

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<v Speaker 2>If I'm sure, I don't know. Sometimes I wonder.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it would have been a nice maybe a

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<v Speaker 3>good opportunity to throw some shade, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't do shade the other time on me, So you

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<v Speaker 2>know that's what I'm saying. Are you sure? Because you

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<v Speaker 2>know I'm a deserter, so you know I forgot that word.

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<v Speaker 3>You are not?

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<v Speaker 2>But you know you asked me how my week went?

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<v Speaker 2>Or you just asking me just you know, yes, how

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<v Speaker 2>are you?

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<v Speaker 3>How's your week?

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<v Speaker 2>Then?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 5>My week was was good besides losing my phone. But

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<v Speaker 5>you know, and that's about it. It's material.

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<v Speaker 2>What can you do?

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<v Speaker 5>Can't cry about it? Because you cry about it's not

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<v Speaker 5>gonna make a difference. You stop crying. Guess what still lost,

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<v Speaker 5>so you know, move on and you know, just try.

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<v Speaker 3>To talking offline about how it feels I'm sorry, go.

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<v Speaker 2>On ahead, what you say now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying we were talking offline about how it

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<v Speaker 3>feels like our life is on that device, so different

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<v Speaker 3>to how it was many many years ago when it

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<v Speaker 3>was just numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>My life is definitely on that phone, between phone numbers

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<v Speaker 5>and stuff. I got what's up numbers and I can't

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<v Speaker 5>what's episode crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>I can't switch.

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<v Speaker 5>I got a new SIM card with my old number,

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<v Speaker 5>but the What's up on my on the phone I

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<v Speaker 5>have now would not let me.

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<v Speaker 2>It's telling me go to.

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<v Speaker 5>The all phone to connect the phone the phone I

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<v Speaker 5>have now do WhatsApp, but I can't because that phone

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<v Speaker 5>is lost.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't remember how there is a way to navigate that.

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<v Speaker 3>But maybe we can chat offline.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no, I'm gonna figure it out. I just it

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<v Speaker 2>just happened.

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<v Speaker 5>It just happened, so I haven't had a chance to

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<v Speaker 5>really look into it. But yeah, I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 5>that's only frustrating. But that as for that. You know,

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<v Speaker 5>life is good. You know, I'm alive, My family is good,

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<v Speaker 5>everybody's good. You guys are good. And I'm happy.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's the perspective. Indeed, Angie, how are you?

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<v Speaker 6>I have felt better.

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<v Speaker 7>Indeed, another round of this cold flu whatever bug that's

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<v Speaker 7>going around that's hit me again midweek, so I'm feeling

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<v Speaker 7>a little bit under the weather. So I excuse my

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<v Speaker 7>croaky voice and possible fits of coughing that might happen. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 7>it's been a bit of retiring week. I've had not

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<v Speaker 7>had much energy. I've still kind of been working, but

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<v Speaker 7>to be bad. But yeah, I really could do with

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<v Speaker 7>a holiday because this cold weather, and I think I've

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<v Speaker 7>really misjudged how cold it was as well this week

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<v Speaker 7>because of a couple of days when it's actually freezing.

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<v Speaker 7>So hopefully I can shift this cold cold as soon

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<v Speaker 7>as possible and get back to full strength and what

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<v Speaker 7>have you. So but you know, praise Gods, still here

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<v Speaker 7>making it through, pushing through, and so yeah, quick.

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<v Speaker 5>Angela, you know you're not actually when it's cold, like

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<v Speaker 5>warm because the summer's out, that's when you really get

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<v Speaker 5>sick because it's the change in the weather. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 5>kind of you kind of think, oh, you know, the

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<v Speaker 5>sun is out, maybe a little bit warmer, so then

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<v Speaker 5>you don't just like you normally dress.

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<v Speaker 7>I don't even think it's that because I do wrap up.

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<v Speaker 7>Most people will be looking at me like it's reading

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<v Speaker 7>not that cold, Angela. But I'm like, I felt like

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<v Speaker 7>I really misjudged it. But you know when you get

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<v Speaker 7>a chill, and I think the cold over in the

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<v Speaker 7>UK is one that just seeps straight into your bones.

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<v Speaker 7>So that's how I felt it this week. And it's

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<v Speaker 7>just like, and I guess maybe because my immune system

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<v Speaker 7>is struggling at the moment.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you just just to recovered. Yeah, so you yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>you sound like I sounded last week, just about but

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<v Speaker 3>I'm proud to say me that gave it to you because.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I had to cut you off.

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<v Speaker 5>She sounds a whole lot better than you sounded.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh I still miss you. I still miss you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's true. That's true, to be fair, and I still

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<v Speaker 3>have a bit of a cough. But but all is well.

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<v Speaker 3>God is good in the end. You know, we just

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<v Speaker 3>give thanks for life, give thanks for life, and to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure you, you know, drink all those at home

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<v Speaker 3>remedies and all the juice and all the bits and

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<v Speaker 3>all that stuff to just get yourself back to full steam,

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<v Speaker 3>fulling Melimba, How are you, How are you doing? Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to say.

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<v Speaker 8>This is my second time being with you, guys. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>so excited. Hello everybody. You Welcome to Talking Points. It's

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<v Speaker 8>good to have you. We didn't have you last week,

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<v Speaker 8>so it's interesting that you're here this time around.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. It's interesting to have you around too.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you. Otherwise, I have been good, guys. My week

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<v Speaker 8>has been great. I was agreeing with Angela about how

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<v Speaker 8>good it was last weekend was freezing. I was going

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<v Speaker 8>to church on Saturday. The sun was out. I thought,

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<v Speaker 8>oh the sun is out, but it was like minus

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<v Speaker 8>three or four when I went outside. It was deceasing. Yes,

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<v Speaker 8>I was freezing last week. But God is good. I'm

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<v Speaker 8>very fine. Like Pedro said, we're all fine. You guys

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<v Speaker 8>are fine, and be grateful to God for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen. Amen. I love that perspective. Indeed, all things wetever,

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<v Speaker 3>all things wet together, we're good. So that love the Lord. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>I want, without further you, let's jump into some prayer.

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<v Speaker 3>I think in between of the conversations I kind of

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<v Speaker 3>hinted to how my week has been. I'm feeling a

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<v Speaker 3>little better, sounding a lot better according to Pedro, and

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<v Speaker 3>just looking forward to going through the study. It was

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<v Speaker 3>so enlightening last week some I think maybe a different

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<v Speaker 3>perspective or a deeper perspective would you say on things

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<v Speaker 3>that we've come across before, read before, but never really

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<v Speaker 3>took that view, So passonikly, thank you for that, and

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<v Speaker 3>we're looking forward to bring you back on so we

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<v Speaker 3>can continue the discussion. Guys, what did you think, what's

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<v Speaker 3>your kind of takeaway or what's your highlight from last week?

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<v Speaker 3>If we just do that briefly before we go on.

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<v Speaker 7>I'm going to be honest, I don't think i've really

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<v Speaker 7>I feel like I've reflected on this after wards, and

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<v Speaker 7>I felt like I don't really think I've really done

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<v Speaker 7>a real deep dive study into the attitudes before I

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<v Speaker 7>think I had. It's a very very long time because

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<v Speaker 7>a lot of things seems very new to me, So

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<v Speaker 7>for me it's like, oh, I've never really done this before.

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<v Speaker 4>So.

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<v Speaker 7>It was really interesting to look at it and to

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<v Speaker 7>sort of see the perspective the idea that these obviously

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<v Speaker 7>were quite foundational statements, blessings, instructions and promises was really

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<v Speaker 7>interesting as well. And you know the fact that we

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<v Speaker 7>can be overcomers to the things that are happening, but

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<v Speaker 7>we have to almost die to self and we have

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<v Speaker 7>to really be in a position where we are fully

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<v Speaker 7>dependent on God to be able to receive some of

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<v Speaker 7>these promises. And you know, some of the statements almost

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<v Speaker 7>seem slightly contradictory, but you know that they are talking

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<v Speaker 7>about their leading towards hope. You know, if you do something,

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<v Speaker 7>you would you would inherit something, you would gain something,

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<v Speaker 7>you'd be blessed by something. So I'm had it really interesting.

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<v Speaker 7>So yeah, looking forward to the rest of it as well.

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<v Speaker 7>But yeah, recognizing that you know, we can be we

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<v Speaker 7>can be overcome as we can be conquer as we are,

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<v Speaker 7>we can be the dates if we're putting our full

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<v Speaker 7>life and trusting God in his hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen. Amen, Blumbers. What's your highlight takeaway?

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<v Speaker 9>Oh?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, last week was very interesting. One thing that I

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<v Speaker 8>love the most is the realization that if we are

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<v Speaker 8>poor in spirit, the Kingdom of God belongs to us

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<v Speaker 8>because they makeew five us three says blessed the poor

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<v Speaker 8>in spirit. For theirs is the kingdom of Heaven, and

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<v Speaker 8>so realizing that we are partakers of heaven, are citizens,

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<v Speaker 8>and God is our God. You know, every time we

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<v Speaker 8>think of God, it feels like he's far apart, like

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<v Speaker 8>he's in heaven and we are here. But last week,

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<v Speaker 8>the way person me explained it made me realize that

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<v Speaker 8>he's literally like my governor. I belong here, I'm entitled

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<v Speaker 8>to the shares of heaven, and that just made me

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<v Speaker 8>feel very courageous for the future. It gives you a

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<v Speaker 8>certain level of confidence in God and a certain level

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<v Speaker 8>of certainty for our future. I just felt like living

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<v Speaker 8>all to God because I know who is my president,

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<v Speaker 8>I know who is my king, I know who is

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<v Speaker 8>leading me, and so it just made me to feel

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<v Speaker 8>like I can be poor in spirit because the kingdom

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<v Speaker 8>of Heaven belongs to me. I never looked at the

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<v Speaker 8>Beatitudes in this way. I've read the Beatitudes before, I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like I've understand I've understood a few of them.

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<v Speaker 8>But the way we discussed last week, the way it

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<v Speaker 8>was broken down, and just hearing each person giveing their

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<v Speaker 8>understand them at a deeper level and just basically seeing

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<v Speaker 8>point was really nice and interesting. But I'm just grateful

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<v Speaker 8>first beatitudes, which was quite interesting. I'm looking forward to

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<v Speaker 3>just pray definily. Father, thank you again for the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>Bless the technology. Bless all of us in Jesus name.

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<v Speaker 3>I pray, Amen and a man passionate. You've been waiting

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<v Speaker 3>patiently or will be taking a bit of our highlights

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<v Speaker 6>Look at that.

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, no, I mean hearing you guys share, I

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<v Speaker 6>Again.

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<v Speaker 4>you guys share for me, it is just an absolute

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 4>But in terms of yeah, your spot on and your

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<v Speaker 4>to it as well, So spot on, spot on to

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<v Speaker 4>all of you, Pedro, God bless you, bro. It's really

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<v Speaker 4>nice having you because this evening, and of course looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to you to your input as well. As we

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<v Speaker 4>Sure sure, sure, So, just as just before we go

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<v Speaker 4>series just a bit of a correction. Hair is called

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<v Speaker 4>becoming spiritually untouchable. The reason being that word macarios, which

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<v Speaker 4>you highlighted xenia, which is translated blessed or happy or satisfied,

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<v Speaker 4>literally means untouchable, and of course to be spiritually on

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<v Speaker 4>untouchable in the context that we looked at last time,

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<v Speaker 4>give them that satisfaction. So when we every time we

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<v Speaker 4>which for me is really makes the Beatitude such an

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely amazing foundational teaching. Of course, we also look at

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<v Speaker 4>We also spoke about the fact that the beatitudes themselves

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<v Speaker 4>But that very first one is a foundation for the

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<v Speaker 4>And and every other one of that that Jesus speaks about,

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<v Speaker 4>all of them has a conditional format. There is a

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<v Speaker 6>So we need God.

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<v Speaker 4>But but what God needs from us really is for

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<v Speaker 4>to be deliberate at pursuing those conditions. The truth is,

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<v Speaker 4>some of those conditions are uncomfortable.

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<v Speaker 4>Conditions called for us to go against the very green

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<v Speaker 6>But that's what's required.

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<v Speaker 4>And as long as those conditions are met, that spiritual blessing,

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<v Speaker 4>that spiritual benefit. God is the one who provides it.

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<v Speaker 4>And hey, if God gives it, no deboney the hell

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<v Speaker 6>So with that said, I'm not sure if Pedro, I

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know if Pedro any of one of you

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<v Speaker 3>It, I'm happy for you to go ahead, Petrol, where

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<v Speaker 5>I'm happy to go right into it because I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>But yeah, you guys are making my work as a

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<v Speaker 4>So the second beattitude. Of course, we find it in

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<v Speaker 4>March chapter five, verse four, and there Jesus said, Blessed

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<v Speaker 4>that those who moan for they will be confident. And and

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<v Speaker 4>So let's just just spend some time just exploring it.

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<v Speaker 4>So what does it mean to moan? What does it

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<v Speaker 4>mean to moan? So let me just open it up

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<v Speaker 4>concept of moaning. But when you hear moaning or blessed

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<v Speaker 4>are those who moan? What comes to mind? What do

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<v Speaker 3>And generally, just as you said for the beatitude before,

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<v Speaker 3>be predisposed to or want to do. We predisposed in

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<v Speaker 3>the right term, but we'd want to do. And that

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<v Speaker 3>rings true for morning. It speaks of being sad, being

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<v Speaker 3>you know, losing a loved one or losing something, And

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<v Speaker 3>so when you're saying this is the condition, like, maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I want want that blessing on the back of this

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<v Speaker 3>this is not something I would necessarily want for myself

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<v Speaker 5>So that just comfort. That gives me comfort in knowing that.

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<v Speaker 5>But that's just yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 7>and both then you and Pedia both said and again

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<v Speaker 7>for comfort and people are encouraging around you what have you,

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<v Speaker 7>at the time, it doesn't feel like I'm sometimes getting

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<v Speaker 7>any comfort so wanting to so it almost feels like

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<v Speaker 7>a bit of a contradiction. I feel I don't feel

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<v Speaker 7>like I'm being blessed when I'm mourning, if that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 7>But again, this is where I know I have to

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<v Speaker 7>put my full trust in God to say, you know

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<v Speaker 7>you can bring me through this. You can bring me

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<v Speaker 7>the comfort I have, the faith I have the belief.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, you have promised that you will be the comforter.

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<v Speaker 7>And sometimes it's completely leaning because if you're completely broken

436
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<v Speaker 7>as you're mourning, and now I you know, this year

437
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<v Speaker 7>I lost one of my really good close friends. And

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<v Speaker 7>you know, I find myself sometimes breaking down or getting

439
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<v Speaker 7>completely accept something might just bring up a memory or

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<v Speaker 7>what have you. And I know sometimes it's not just

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<v Speaker 7>by my own strength, my own doing that I can

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<v Speaker 7>get through this. I've really got to cling to God

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<v Speaker 7>and really have to believe the promise that he didn't

444
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<v Speaker 7>come and meet and he'd give it the strength to

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<v Speaker 7>move through. But again it feels like almost a contradiction

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<v Speaker 7>in terms. But again it's like you said, you have

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<v Speaker 7>to be in that position where it's uncomfortable. We have

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<v Speaker 7>to meet those conditions for Him to bless us and

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<v Speaker 7>receive that blessing.

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<v Speaker 4>Me.

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<v Speaker 8>I can also just come in. I'm gonna get one sentence,

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<v Speaker 8>I think. And you mentioned when you're like sad, when

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<v Speaker 8>you're feeling sad, or when you're at your lowest. I

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<v Speaker 8>would like to think of it as listen to those

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<v Speaker 8>who mourn. You know, when you're moaning, you feel like

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<v Speaker 8>you are at your lowest. You feel because it's a

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<v Speaker 8>sad moment, at your lowest. And God promised that He's

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<v Speaker 8>going to send us a comforter who will comfort us.

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<v Speaker 8>And so for me, besides just losing a loved one,

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<v Speaker 8>I'll take it as mourning our grief. I mean seeing

461
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<v Speaker 8>serrantity is the wad sin. There are times that we

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<v Speaker 8>are deep in sin, that we are so sad and miserable,

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<v Speaker 8>and it's at that moment that God comforts us. There's

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<v Speaker 8>a way in which if you align your life with God,

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<v Speaker 8>even if you try and stray, because you remember who

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<v Speaker 8>God is, like a lost son, He's still going to

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<v Speaker 8>find a way of bringing you back home in different ways.

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<v Speaker 8>Be it causing you to be sick so much that

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<v Speaker 8>you remember that there's a God and you have to pray.

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<v Speaker 8>Be it causing you to feel so hungry impoverished that

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<v Speaker 8>you remember that there's a God who's a provider. I

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<v Speaker 8>feel like it's been at such a low moment of

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<v Speaker 8>your life that you just want to remember that there's

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<v Speaker 8>a God who is more than able to comfort me

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<v Speaker 8>because he promised us that he will be there with

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<v Speaker 8>us up to the end of time. So it's just

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<v Speaker 8>for me, it's just been at such a low moment

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<v Speaker 8>in your life that it gives you the comfort that

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<v Speaker 8>there's somebody greater than what I'm going through at this moment.

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<v Speaker 6>Mmmmmm, thank you so much, Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 4>On you You've actually set the stage first there with

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<v Speaker 4>your last comment.

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<v Speaker 6>Molember.

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<v Speaker 4>So we we we we all, in one way or another,

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<v Speaker 4>have experienced grief and morning.

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<v Speaker 6>There's no question there.

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<v Speaker 4>The Greek word that's used there is, and I deliberately

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<v Speaker 4>mentioned in the Greek word because there are some English

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<v Speaker 4>words attached to it that we know. So the Greek

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<v Speaker 4>word is path us, and it means to experience misfortune

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<v Speaker 4>or or to experiperience deep grief. So it's an emotional condition.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the things that I have always been a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit surprised about is that there's tends to be

494
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<v Speaker 4>people who believe, oh, you know, if you are a Christian,

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<v Speaker 4>there must be no emotion involved and nothing is whether

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<v Speaker 4>from the truth. It is impossible for you to have

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<v Speaker 4>that relationship with God and not experience any type of

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<v Speaker 4>emotion at all. While God asks us to love to

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<v Speaker 4>gapy him, you would hear the prophet speaks and that

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<v Speaker 4>that would a gappy or that type of love that

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<v Speaker 4>we're supposed to have for God. It encompasses holistic love,

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<v Speaker 4>so it's loving Him with our minds, with our bodies,

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<v Speaker 4>and with our hearts emotionally. So here God is inviting

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<v Speaker 4>us to be deliberate at pursuing an experiencing h and

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<v Speaker 4>a very sad and uncomfortable emotion. Mm hmm, it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>a little bit on the crazy side if you ask me.

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<v Speaker 4>But but then he's saying, that's the condition that you

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<v Speaker 4>have to meet in order for you to be comforted.

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<v Speaker 4>Let me just put just plug something in here. We

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<v Speaker 4>have to remember that the beatitudes ah the beginning of

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<v Speaker 4>a spiritual discourse. Yeah, So as we are looking at

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<v Speaker 4>the word moaning with the context is going to determine

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<v Speaker 4>the meaning of that word because and I'm saying this,

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<v Speaker 4>because they are persons who moan, but who are still

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<v Speaker 4>grieving years later and who are not in that place

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<v Speaker 4>of comfort. So there is there is moaning, and there

517
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<v Speaker 4>is moaning here. What God is saying, what Christ is saying,

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<v Speaker 4>is that there is a particular type of moaning where

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<v Speaker 4>you will be comforted. The English word that's related to it,

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<v Speaker 4>we know them well, is empathy. So we see that

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<v Speaker 4>same uh, the root of path here, So empathy, sympathy

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<v Speaker 4>And of course if you're if you're if you're empathetic

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<v Speaker 4>to someone, it means that you are you've experienced what

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<v Speaker 4>they've going through so you can relate to it. M H.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're sympathetic with someone, it means you've not experienced

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<v Speaker 4>what they're going through. But because you are a human being,

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<v Speaker 4>you could see the herd, you can see their pain

528
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<v Speaker 4>and you and you are you are feeling to some

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<v Speaker 4>extent what they are feeling.

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<v Speaker 6>You're feeling sorry for them.

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<v Speaker 4>So so that that the words literally means, and this

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<v Speaker 4>is interesting, the literal meaning of the word is experiencing, experiencing.

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<v Speaker 4>So so when Jesus says, blessed as those who moan,

534
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<v Speaker 4>he said, blessed of those who don't. Don't just profess,

535
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<v Speaker 4>but who are actually experiencing this spiritual condition that I'm

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<v Speaker 4>talking about. So now we all know, we all know,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've described it, hair spoken about his outspoken about mine.

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<v Speaker 6>You.

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<v Speaker 4>The moaning is what happens when you have deep gree

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<v Speaker 4>for intense sorrow. And the truth is, I'm smiling and laughing,

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<v Speaker 4>but it's not twenty The truth is there is a deep,

542
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<v Speaker 4>absolutely crazy sense of moaning that could get you in

543
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<v Speaker 4>such a crazy place that you were completely lost. I remember,

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<v Speaker 4>I remember when my my mom died. I I sat

545
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<v Speaker 4>listened to one of my colleagues pressure funeral. I knew

546
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<v Speaker 4>it was a great summon, but I don't remember a

547
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<v Speaker 4>thing he said. When when you're moaning, it's like you're

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<v Speaker 4>completely out of it, I mean, think of it. So grief,

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<v Speaker 4>grief is actually a response to deep loss.

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<v Speaker 9>Yep.

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<v Speaker 4>The extent of your moaning is always related to the

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<v Speaker 4>extent of what you've lost. So if you lose someone

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<v Speaker 4>who means the absolute world to you, your moaning is

554
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<v Speaker 4>going to be that heavy. On the flip side, if

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<v Speaker 4>you if someone close to you dies and you've not

556
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<v Speaker 4>been in heavily invested in them, that the grief is

557
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<v Speaker 4>not that heavy.

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<v Speaker 6>When when Jesus has.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaks about moaning, he's talking about that that deep sense

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<v Speaker 4>of loss, that deep sense of sadness. I mean, what

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<v Speaker 4>forgive me for saying this, guys, but you'll get where

562
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<v Speaker 4>I'm going. What God in his right mind, who have

563
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<v Speaker 4>said to his people I care about your well being,

564
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<v Speaker 4>says to them, I'm actually inviting you to deliberately pursue

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<v Speaker 4>experience of deep grief, an experience of deep loss, in

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<v Speaker 4>order for you to be a recipient of a blessing

567
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<v Speaker 4>that will make you spiritually untouchable. Now, just to go

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<v Speaker 4>a bit deeper hair. So just to give some context,

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<v Speaker 4>just that we can understand it. When he says moaning hair,

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<v Speaker 4>is he just referring to the type of social money

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<v Speaker 4>that we are used to the emotional bits alone. No, because,

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<v Speaker 4>as we've already highlighted it, he's speaking hair from a

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual context. So just a few passages I want to

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<v Speaker 4>to share in James chapter four was eight or nine

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<v Speaker 4>the same word is using verse nine, but just to

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<v Speaker 4>get some context, so it was eight. Jim says, come

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<v Speaker 4>near to God. Get the context. The context is drawing

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<v Speaker 4>near to God. Come here to God, and he will

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<v Speaker 4>come near to you, wash your hands, your sinners, and

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<v Speaker 4>purify your heart. You double money. So so this is

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<v Speaker 4>God saying, Hey, this is my invitation to you to

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<v Speaker 4>be as genuine with me, as close to me as

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<v Speaker 4>possible possible.

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<v Speaker 6>God, how do we do that?

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<v Speaker 4>Verse nine, grieve moan and will change your laughter to

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<v Speaker 4>moaning and your joy to gloom. In other words, God

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<v Speaker 4>is saying here through the Profit, through through James, that

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<v Speaker 4>the comfort that I want you to get, that spiritual

589
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<v Speaker 4>comfort your you're drawing near to me requires you going

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<v Speaker 4>that place of moaning. It requires you to experience that

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<v Speaker 4>deep sorrow, deep grief. Let me share an order passage

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<v Speaker 4>and then try to bring it together for sa just

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<v Speaker 4>to open it up a bit. So in in second

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<v Speaker 4>Grand Films one and with five, this is one of

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<v Speaker 4>my favorite passages in the Bible. And I'll share with

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<v Speaker 4>you why so it US five or Second Frinians one.

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<v Speaker 4>Paul says, but just as we share abundantly in the

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<v Speaker 4>sufferings of Christ, what we share in the sufferings of Christ?

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<v Speaker 4>But I thought Christ suffering on the cross was all

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<v Speaker 4>just as we say in the suffers of Christ. And

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<v Speaker 4>mind you, the same way that is used here is

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<v Speaker 4>the word that's used there is the same with pathos,

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<v Speaker 4>which is a reference to the sufferings of Christ. So

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<v Speaker 4>also our comfort and bounds through Christ. So let me

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<v Speaker 4>get stop here to open up open this up onto

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<v Speaker 4>ask you what do you think he means? What does

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<v Speaker 4>Paul mean here when he talks about the sufferings of

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<v Speaker 4>Christ that we share abundantly in.

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<v Speaker 3>Mm hmm, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Mean how how how can we possibly share in the

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<v Speaker 4>sufferings of Christ?

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good one, if I were to had I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure that I know. But for me I would say,

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<v Speaker 3>in his in his empathy for others, in his in

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<v Speaker 3>his his heart for others, that would be that would

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<v Speaker 3>be my guest, and it really is a guest. But

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<v Speaker 3>for me, he he was a compassionate God Christ, or

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<v Speaker 3>he is a compassionate Christ correction, and he had a

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<v Speaker 3>feeling and a heart for his fellow men.

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<v Speaker 4>Mm hmm mmmm okay, okay, thank you, Xeniah. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if anyone else wants to add their voice.

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<v Speaker 8>Hair, sorry, ask again, Yeah, yeah, no.

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<v Speaker 4>The question here is how how can we share? How

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<v Speaker 4>do we share in the sufferings of Christ? And again

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<v Speaker 4>the same word is using here, the same word that

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<v Speaker 4>just uses in Matthew five and Us four path of

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<v Speaker 4>us when it's a basis than those who won, but

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<v Speaker 4>they will be comforted. So we've basically seeing second grand

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<v Speaker 4>Fians one five mirroring the second at Articue. So the

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<v Speaker 4>question here is how do we share in the suffering

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<v Speaker 4>or in the morning of Christ.

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<v Speaker 7>I guess it's maybe in a similar way that we

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<v Speaker 7>experience certain things, whether it's we go through troubles, we

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<v Speaker 7>have trial, you know, we have challenges in this I

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<v Speaker 7>guess in the same way, maybe in different ways that

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<v Speaker 7>Christ suffer. But if he suffered for certain things, Let's

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<v Speaker 7>say he suffered for his fate. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 7>preaching what have you, he was persecuted for that. We

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<v Speaker 7>might go through similar things if we are sharing what

641
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<v Speaker 7>we believe, et cetera, or we're going through challenges in life.

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<v Speaker 7>So I guess in some way there's the empathy side

643
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<v Speaker 7>of it, or we can kind of recognize the challenges

644
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<v Speaker 7>that we're facing, So there is a level of sympathy

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<v Speaker 7>recognizing what Christ went through through for us in a

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<v Speaker 7>similar way, we can sort of empathize and maybe in

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<v Speaker 7>some ways put ourselves in his shoes to a certain degree.

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<v Speaker 7>So I guess it's where we can relate to the

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<v Speaker 7>things that He's gone through.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 8>I agree with us In and Angela, just like both

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<v Speaker 8>of them have said, I feel like we share up

653
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<v Speaker 8>the suffering with Christ when we literally go through what

654
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<v Speaker 8>he went through. That's the way we can be empathetic

655
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<v Speaker 8>because then we are walking in his shoes. His sons

656
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<v Speaker 8>today especially been on this part of the world. You

657
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<v Speaker 8>feel like it becomes so hard to preach the word

658
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<v Speaker 8>of God. So sometimes you can deny you you know,

659
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<v Speaker 8>Jesus Christ came to his own and his own denied him.

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<v Speaker 8>Even today, you might want to preach to somebody about

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<v Speaker 8>the word of God. Just last week, I was telling

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<v Speaker 8>a colleague of mine about God, like, you know, you know, y'ah,

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<v Speaker 8>like I wanted to share the word of God. And

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<v Speaker 8>then my friend just said, you know what, I'm not interested.

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<v Speaker 8>We'll keep arguing about this, so let's just not start

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<v Speaker 8>taking about it. I was so shattered, I'm like, okay.

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<v Speaker 8>And so you realize that people did deny Jesus Christ

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<v Speaker 8>and people did accept him, and so the suffering comes

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<v Speaker 8>in when he feels sad. He weeps when people do

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<v Speaker 8>not trust in him. He feels sad when people are

671
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<v Speaker 8>not trusting in the Mira because the people he came

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<v Speaker 8>to die for. And then the other one also is

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<v Speaker 8>Jesus Christ also suffered. There's one low moment I point

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<v Speaker 8>out when he was at the cross. He cried, was

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<v Speaker 8>it before the cross and the garden of Getzman when

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<v Speaker 8>he said, let this car pass from me, however not

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<v Speaker 8>my will, let you will be done. At that moment,

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<v Speaker 8>he felt the pain so much. And that was basically

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<v Speaker 8>because the sins were separating him from the Father, even

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<v Speaker 8>as there are times we go through life and we

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<v Speaker 8>feel like our sins have separated us from God. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>the moments where you feel your spirituality is not right

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<v Speaker 8>with God. You just feel down, you don't pray anymore,

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<v Speaker 8>Especially during COVID. I don't know. Maybe because it was

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<v Speaker 8>just mainly online and we didn't have to go to

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<v Speaker 8>church and worship and be reminded of God, many people's

687
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<v Speaker 8>spirituality just went down. And then you get to feel

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<v Speaker 8>like you get to feel like you have been separated

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<v Speaker 8>from God or maybe you're going through something painful in life,

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<v Speaker 8>and moments that you can consider painful in life, and

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<v Speaker 8>then us feel like where is God? And so in

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<v Speaker 8>that moment you get to share, uh, the suffering that

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<v Speaker 8>Christ went through because he felt that also at one

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<v Speaker 8>point in his life.

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<v Speaker 4>I just explained a bit more and maybe maybe I'm

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<v Speaker 4>putting you on on a spot broke. Here is the thing.

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<v Speaker 4>While Christ walked on Earth, what are the things that

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<v Speaker 4>made him moan? Because because basically that's what poor Polly

699
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<v Speaker 4>is saying. So there they're general conditions, general things. As

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<v Speaker 4>Christ went throughout his ministry that led him to that

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<v Speaker 4>place of deep experiencing of grief, of customer spiritual context.

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<v Speaker 4>So so the question here is what what are some

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<v Speaker 4>of those things that we would say made Christ's moan

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<v Speaker 4>made him grieve spiritually genuine If you mind, Pedro, it's

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<v Speaker 4>nice hearing your nice beast voice.

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<v Speaker 5>Actually, can I just say one thing about the last question?

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<v Speaker 5>Then I go to that one with the with you're

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<v Speaker 5>saying that. I was just thinking about this in the

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<v Speaker 5>sense of we can't suffer like Christ if we don't

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<v Speaker 5>walk with Christ. So like me, so like to me,

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00:42:23.000 --> 00:42:25.519
<v Speaker 5>we need to be walking with Christ in order to

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<v Speaker 5>get the pain. And then then then Christ would then

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<v Speaker 5>comfort us because we are walking like when Jesus was

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<v Speaker 5>on this earth, he showed us the blueprint on how

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<v Speaker 5>to walk in Christ, or how to walk in him

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<v Speaker 5>or walk like Jesus, and you know, to be sinless,

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<v Speaker 5>because there's always a question of can we be sinless?

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<v Speaker 5>Can we actually be pure and of heart, pure of mind,

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<v Speaker 5>pure body, pure of soul. And Jesus gave us the

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<v Speaker 5>blue the blueprint, and I think in today's where that's

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<v Speaker 5>a blueprint, that's not hard to do. But it's just when,

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<v Speaker 5>like Melinda said, when you when you live that Christian life,

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<v Speaker 5>people have a tendency to to downplay it or say

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<v Speaker 5>they're not interested, but they are watching. So I think

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<v Speaker 5>that the suffering that you're saying by suffering with Christ,

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<v Speaker 5>if you're walking in Christ, you're going to suffer. But

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<v Speaker 5>then Christ will then comfort you and give you the

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<v Speaker 5>the power and the mercy to make it through whatever

729
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<v Speaker 5>you're going through.

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<v Speaker 2>That was just my thought process.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you've hit it nicely. You've hit it nicely, because

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<v Speaker 4>here is here's the thing. Yeah, when we when we

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<v Speaker 4>remember when you and ire agrieving, we're pretty God and

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<v Speaker 4>we sit to him, Lord, please say, hit us, free

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<v Speaker 4>us from from this, and he he if you remember

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<v Speaker 4>the experience of Lazarus, why did you justus sweep? He

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<v Speaker 4>wept because the people who were moaning. The Bible tells

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<v Speaker 4>us that christis moved with compassion over the widow of

739
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<v Speaker 4>Nain who lost her son. So grieving and mourning is

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<v Speaker 4>just something that God wants for us. Suffering is not

741
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<v Speaker 4>something God wants for us.

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<v Speaker 6>Yet still his.

743
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<v Speaker 4>Hair saying there is spiritual moaning and spiritual grieving. There

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<v Speaker 4>are certain blessings you need, and mind you, God don't

745
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<v Speaker 4>have blessings available to us if we don't need them.

746
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<v Speaker 4>There are certain blessings you need, but in order for

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<v Speaker 4>you to be recipients of those blessings, their doors you

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<v Speaker 4>need to open. And one of the doors you have

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<v Speaker 4>to open is engaging in spiritual moaning, spiritual grief.

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<v Speaker 6>And what does that look like? What does that look

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<v Speaker 6>like when you when.

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<v Speaker 4>He said, blessed that those who Moanlessed that those were experienced.

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<v Speaker 4>And remember that it is not something you can and

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<v Speaker 4>go through without God, that spiritual grieving. When my brother died,

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<v Speaker 4>when my mom died, I did not need God to

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<v Speaker 4>inject anything in me. I dont need to go and

757
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<v Speaker 4>pray to God, say God, please help me, help me grieve,

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<v Speaker 4>help me move.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, no, no, that came naturally.

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<v Speaker 4>This one here, we need to go to Him for

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<v Speaker 4>it because it entails mourning in God. So the Holy

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<v Speaker 4>Spirit literally comes and as you pray, as you open

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<v Speaker 4>up your hat, the Holy Spirit comes and leads you

764
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<v Speaker 4>to that place where you.

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<v Speaker 6>Are moaning in God.

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<v Speaker 4>But mourning. Why it's also mourning after God. It is

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<v Speaker 4>recognizing how far you are from God. It's recognizing how

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<v Speaker 4>much you need God, recognizing how much you've alienated yourself

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<v Speaker 4>from Him, and then for your hat to experience, because remember,

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<v Speaker 4>you moan over something that is uh that that that

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<v Speaker 4>is means the world to you. In order for you

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<v Speaker 4>to moan after God, you need to have a particular

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<v Speaker 4>concept of who God is and what you are missing

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<v Speaker 4>in Him to experience that level of mourning after him,

775
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<v Speaker 4>of grieving after him. But it's it's also moaning for God,

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<v Speaker 4>which is what we just read here in First Christians

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<v Speaker 4>five where Paul says we share in the sufferings of Christ.

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<v Speaker 6>So the things.

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<v Speaker 4>That hurt God's heart hurts ours.

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<v Speaker 6>The things that matters to God matters.

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<v Speaker 4>To us, the the mission of God and the amount

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<v Speaker 4>of of of effort and how heavy God carries it

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<v Speaker 4>on his desire to see everyone saved. This we we

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<v Speaker 4>partake in it as well. Let's just go a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit further the hair as it relates to us being

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<v Speaker 4>in that place of of what's that would, as it

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<v Speaker 4>relates to us being in that place of experiencing.

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<v Speaker 6>The grund of who God is, the heart of God.

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<v Speaker 4>In other words, it's it's an invitation to be partakers

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<v Speaker 4>of God's divine nature because as we go through this life,

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<v Speaker 4>God looks and he looks at how we as human

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<v Speaker 4>beings on our backs from Him, and it grieves his

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<v Speaker 4>heart is moaning.

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<v Speaker 6>He sees how we suffer when.

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<v Speaker 4>We lose love, loved ones, and how we we.

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<v Speaker 6>Need persons to come to us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's his, his humans, and so it's an invitation to experience,

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<v Speaker 4>to experience spiritual grief, spiritual mourning. Now, mind you, the

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<v Speaker 4>word is used. The tense is the present active participle,

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<v Speaker 4>which means, which means, as long as sinful conditions exist,

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<v Speaker 4>as long as people are not saved, as long as

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<v Speaker 4>people turn their backs from God, as long as you

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<v Speaker 4>could see how distance you are from God, we should

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<v Speaker 4>be moaning, should be moaning. In other words, in other words,

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<v Speaker 4>in for us to be recipients, ongoing recipients of this blessing,

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<v Speaker 4>God is asking us to be spiritually sensitive on an

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<v Speaker 4>ongoing basis. So there must never be a point in

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<v Speaker 4>time that I go through the day where I don't

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<v Speaker 4>deliberately pursue God heavily enough, I don't start my day

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<v Speaker 4>with God and to be deliberate been with Him to

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<v Speaker 4>so that I become insensitive to the things that matter

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<v Speaker 4>to God. And so as as we as we, as

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<v Speaker 4>we get ready even now, just to stop and to

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<v Speaker 4>and to spend some time. I I want to just

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<v Speaker 4>highlight this. I want to highlight it that God is

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<v Speaker 4>saying to us, Hey, as my child, you need to

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<v Speaker 4>be in a constant state of spiritual moaning. Now, mind you,

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<v Speaker 4>it doesn't mean that you're always gloom and sad and

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<v Speaker 4>you're always crying and will No, no, no, that's not that's

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<v Speaker 4>not That's not the meaning here. What he's saying is

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<v Speaker 4>pursue me with all of your heart. Pursue me to

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<v Speaker 4>the point where your heart hurts. Pursue me to the

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<v Speaker 4>point where as I reveal to you my will, as

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<v Speaker 4>you see it and understand it, you will get jealous

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<v Speaker 4>for God.

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<v Speaker 6>You will have such a desire within you that.

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<v Speaker 4>When it comes to taking what you have, what God

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<v Speaker 4>has blessed you with in order to be to benefit

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<v Speaker 4>others so that His kingdom and the work of His

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<v Speaker 4>kingdom can be realized.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah. In other words, your.

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<v Speaker 4>Heart has to be in tune with God's heart, has

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<v Speaker 4>to be in tuned with God's hat and you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to pass on to you or rather, before I do that,

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<v Speaker 4>let me just open up a little bit, little bit

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<v Speaker 4>anything back that you may have briefly and I will

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<v Speaker 4>pass onto our host.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm suspecting your mine.

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<v Speaker 3>I am just.

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<v Speaker 8>For me.

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<v Speaker 3>It is the point, and I may not have it

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<v Speaker 3>completely right. I understand that Christ suffered. He suffered for

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<v Speaker 3>the Gospel, is my take on it. He suffered doing

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<v Speaker 3>the work that God had placed on him to do,

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<v Speaker 3>or or the job that he knew he had to do.

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<v Speaker 3>But for me, most important was the fact that he

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<v Speaker 3>suffered because he loved us. That That's where I'm coming

848
00:51:15.719 --> 00:51:19.159
<v Speaker 3>back to, and that really resonates with me. He was

849
00:51:19.199 --> 00:51:22.760
<v Speaker 3>a he is I keep saying, once he walked on earth.

850
00:51:22.800 --> 00:51:26.800
<v Speaker 3>I think that's why I'm using the past tense. He

851
00:51:27.119 --> 00:51:35.440
<v Speaker 3>is a compassionate and I'm caring friend. And when when

852
00:51:35.559 --> 00:51:37.880
<v Speaker 3>you say more, because again, this is a concept that

853
00:51:37.880 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm just putting my head around. Because before this conversation,

854
00:51:43.000 --> 00:51:48.920
<v Speaker 3>mourning in that text only related to moaning the loss

855
00:51:48.960 --> 00:51:55.760
<v Speaker 3>of a loved one, or mourning because someone whom I

856
00:51:55.960 --> 00:51:59.960
<v Speaker 3>deeply care about has died. That was the kind of

857
00:52:00.039 --> 00:52:03.480
<v Speaker 3>text in which I looked at that text. But You've

858
00:52:03.519 --> 00:52:09.960
<v Speaker 3>now opened it up to a spiritual mourning, and for me,

859
00:52:10.199 --> 00:52:16.400
<v Speaker 3>it is having a heart as Christ had for others.

860
00:52:17.039 --> 00:52:24.280
<v Speaker 3>And for myself knowing that I'm lost. I am lost

861
00:52:24.559 --> 00:52:29.960
<v Speaker 3>without him, and and if I'm not careful, those around

862
00:52:30.079 --> 00:52:33.880
<v Speaker 3>me will be lost. If I'm not shedding light, if

863
00:52:33.920 --> 00:52:37.599
<v Speaker 3>I'm not setting the right example, if I'm not being

864
00:52:37.679 --> 00:52:42.320
<v Speaker 3>as christ Like as I need to be, and I

865
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:46.800
<v Speaker 3>must be concerned about that. I should have a heart

866
00:52:46.920 --> 00:52:51.599
<v Speaker 3>for that, and I should have a desire for that,

867
00:52:51.960 --> 00:52:57.320
<v Speaker 3>And in having that desire and that yearning, then he

868
00:52:57.400 --> 00:53:01.519
<v Speaker 3>will provide the comfort. He will provide the covering. Because

869
00:53:01.559 --> 00:53:05.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm always I'm always thinking about the end goal that

870
00:53:06.239 --> 00:53:10.280
<v Speaker 3>we are all to make it into the Kingdom. If

871
00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:13.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm sensitive to that, then I think I will be

872
00:53:13.559 --> 00:53:17.199
<v Speaker 3>sensitive to the hearts of others. I don't know if

873
00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:20.159
<v Speaker 3>I'm making sense, but in my mind it is. I

874
00:53:20.159 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 3>If I'm if I'm concerned about whether Malember makes it

875
00:53:23.760 --> 00:53:27.800
<v Speaker 3>into the Kingdom, then I'm concerned about Malember full stop.

876
00:53:28.320 --> 00:53:28.519
<v Speaker 2>Right.

877
00:53:29.360 --> 00:53:32.360
<v Speaker 3>If I'm concerned about my neighbor making it into the Kingdom,

878
00:53:32.400 --> 00:53:35.639
<v Speaker 3>then I'm concerned about my because because that's the end goal,

879
00:53:35.719 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 3>but it requires a whole load. Unfortunately, we make it

880
00:53:39.840 --> 00:53:42.159
<v Speaker 3>just about maybe beating people over the head with the

881
00:53:42.159 --> 00:53:45.800
<v Speaker 3>Word or or the Bible, but That's what I love

882
00:53:45.840 --> 00:53:49.760
<v Speaker 3>again about Christ on earth. He talked, He dealt with

883
00:53:49.800 --> 00:53:53.599
<v Speaker 3>the whole man. H you know, he dealt with with

884
00:53:53.599 --> 00:53:57.400
<v Speaker 3>with the physical. He dealt with those who were mourning,

885
00:53:57.519 --> 00:54:02.519
<v Speaker 3>those physically, he dealt with those who had physical ailments.

886
00:54:03.079 --> 00:54:05.480
<v Speaker 3>He dealt with the whole person, those who were hungry,

887
00:54:05.519 --> 00:54:08.559
<v Speaker 3>those who were homeless. He dealt with the whole person.

888
00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:17.039
<v Speaker 3>And ultimately his goal was to get them into the kingdom.

889
00:54:17.360 --> 00:54:18.199
<v Speaker 3>That was his goal.

890
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:23.760
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Which which brings me to this place of asking.

891
00:54:25.239 --> 00:54:27.159
<v Speaker 6>How often are we there?

892
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:31.480
<v Speaker 4>And and and I'm asking that deliberately because it's very

893
00:54:31.519 --> 00:54:37.119
<v Speaker 4>easy to do Sabbath, very easy, returned my time, very

894
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.679
<v Speaker 4>easy to just get dressed.

895
00:54:39.360 --> 00:54:42.960
<v Speaker 6>And to you know, do my normal churchy things.

896
00:54:43.079 --> 00:54:45.199
<v Speaker 4>Very easy to just sell stud up and off our

897
00:54:45.239 --> 00:54:49.920
<v Speaker 4>prayer and to and to just be completely disconnected from

898
00:54:50.000 --> 00:54:52.920
<v Speaker 4>the things of God and the things that matters to God.

899
00:54:53.599 --> 00:54:58.559
<v Speaker 4>So if if so Christ walked this earth, and he

900
00:54:58.079 --> 00:55:02.920
<v Speaker 4>he was mission focused to the point where his heart

901
00:55:03.199 --> 00:55:07.280
<v Speaker 4>was in this to the full, Yeah, he's inviting us

902
00:55:07.360 --> 00:55:11.679
<v Speaker 4>to do the same. And it's no wonder, it's no wonder.

903
00:55:13.880 --> 00:55:18.119
<v Speaker 4>It is not something that we can do on our own.

904
00:55:19.079 --> 00:55:22.000
<v Speaker 4>While the provisions are there. We have to be willing

905
00:55:22.079 --> 00:55:25.800
<v Speaker 4>to open up ourselves to it and to be ready

906
00:55:25.800 --> 00:55:30.840
<v Speaker 4>to pursue it so that we can experience that that grief,

907
00:55:30.920 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 4>that spiritual grief, that's spiritual moaning, and so that our

908
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:37.639
<v Speaker 4>eyes can begin to see what God's eyes sees, our

909
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:41.440
<v Speaker 4>heart can begin to feel what God's heart feels, and

910
00:55:41.519 --> 00:55:44.440
<v Speaker 4>for the intensity of it to hit us as much

911
00:55:44.480 --> 00:55:49.639
<v Speaker 4>as it hits him, and the whole objective of being

912
00:55:49.760 --> 00:55:53.199
<v Speaker 4>diligent at pursuing it with a loving and carrying and

913
00:55:53.320 --> 00:55:56.840
<v Speaker 4>desiring heart becomes ours as well. I mean, if you

914
00:55:56.920 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 4>really think of it, if you really think of it,

915
00:55:59.760 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 4>it's an invitation to partic in the sufferings that Christ

916
00:56:05.599 --> 00:56:08.000
<v Speaker 4>part took in while he walk this berth.

917
00:56:08.880 --> 00:56:09.559
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

918
00:56:10.079 --> 00:56:14.039
<v Speaker 3>And and we can't miss that that that is the

919
00:56:14.079 --> 00:56:15.679
<v Speaker 3>purpose of the sufferings.

920
00:56:16.280 --> 00:56:16.679
<v Speaker 8>We can't.

921
00:56:16.960 --> 00:56:19.360
<v Speaker 3>He's asking us to partake of it, but we can't

922
00:56:19.360 --> 00:56:20.519
<v Speaker 3>miss the purpose of it.

923
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:22.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah.

924
00:56:24.199 --> 00:56:26.960
<v Speaker 7>It says as a reminder exactly you know where we

925
00:56:27.039 --> 00:56:29.400
<v Speaker 7>need to be and what we need to go through

926
00:56:29.559 --> 00:56:32.440
<v Speaker 7>to dual closer to Him. Yeah, because it's very easy

927
00:56:32.440 --> 00:56:34.920
<v Speaker 7>to kind of get complacent and almost forget what the

928
00:56:35.039 --> 00:56:36.039
<v Speaker 7>ultimate purpose is.

929
00:56:36.719 --> 00:56:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah yeah, yeah. And Pastorinik, you said it so clearly,

930
00:56:42.119 --> 00:56:48.599
<v Speaker 3>and and that's something that always it always troubles me,

931
00:56:48.760 --> 00:56:52.039
<v Speaker 3>is that when we get so comfortable, we get so

932
00:56:52.119 --> 00:56:56.599
<v Speaker 3>comfortable in our own routine and our own rituals. And

933
00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:59.519
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to say it that I may get tap

934
00:56:59.559 --> 00:57:02.960
<v Speaker 3>on the wrist for it, but particularly as Adventists, we

935
00:57:03.159 --> 00:57:07.199
<v Speaker 3>are very good at our rituals and our routine, for

936
00:57:07.320 --> 00:57:12.679
<v Speaker 3>better or worse. But but it's important that we go

937
00:57:12.719 --> 00:57:15.880
<v Speaker 3>beyond that, go beyond the pure warming, go beyond the

938
00:57:16.119 --> 00:57:22.119
<v Speaker 3>you know, the the clockwork of the Sabbath and all that,

939
00:57:22.760 --> 00:57:25.920
<v Speaker 3>and make sure that we have a compassion for people,

940
00:57:26.400 --> 00:57:29.960
<v Speaker 3>make sure that we're caring about people, and make sure

941
00:57:30.000 --> 00:57:36.039
<v Speaker 3>that we are being a tool for comfort for people. Again,

942
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:38.000
<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure if I've missed the mark there, but

943
00:57:38.159 --> 00:57:41.440
<v Speaker 3>that for me is really what the Gospel is about,

944
00:57:42.079 --> 00:57:44.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, having a heart for God in the way

945
00:57:44.920 --> 00:57:46.400
<v Speaker 3>that He had a heart for others.

946
00:57:49.280 --> 00:57:53.400
<v Speaker 8>That's nice, then, yeah, And that really is what true

947
00:57:53.440 --> 00:57:57.400
<v Speaker 8>Christianity is. True Christianity is not just going to church

948
00:57:57.760 --> 00:58:02.079
<v Speaker 8>once a week. True Christianity is taking care of the

949
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:08.000
<v Speaker 8>least in society, the vulnerable, the widows, the orphans, others

950
00:58:08.039 --> 00:58:10.719
<v Speaker 8>that need help. If we see in the Bible, those

951
00:58:10.760 --> 00:58:14.400
<v Speaker 8>are people that Christ was so happy to help. We

952
00:58:14.480 --> 00:58:17.239
<v Speaker 8>see how he took care of the widow, even just stories,

953
00:58:17.280 --> 00:58:21.199
<v Speaker 8>even from the Old Testament, when we see both from

954
00:58:21.239 --> 00:58:23.440
<v Speaker 8>you and Old Testament, we hear stories of how the

955
00:58:23.480 --> 00:58:28.559
<v Speaker 8>widows were taking care of, how God was, how Jesus

956
00:58:28.679 --> 00:58:31.840
<v Speaker 8>Christ was happy to serve the people that were considered

957
00:58:31.880 --> 00:58:35.039
<v Speaker 8>to be least in society, how he healed the blind,

958
00:58:35.239 --> 00:58:38.159
<v Speaker 8>the lamb, those that were sick. That is what true

959
00:58:38.239 --> 00:58:43.079
<v Speaker 8>Christianity is, taking care of our neighbors and their affairs.

960
00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:46.599
<v Speaker 8>Like you said earlier, if you know that my spiritual

961
00:58:46.639 --> 00:58:49.840
<v Speaker 8>life is good, I'm doing fine, then you're happy because

962
00:58:50.320 --> 00:58:53.360
<v Speaker 8>you are looking out for a sister, looking out for

963
00:58:53.480 --> 00:58:55.639
<v Speaker 8>a neighbor. It goes back to the neighbor principle when

964
00:58:55.719 --> 00:58:59.719
<v Speaker 8>Jesus Christ gave the power boy, and so really it's

965
00:58:59.760 --> 00:59:03.960
<v Speaker 8>about out taking care of those around us. I did

966
00:59:04.000 --> 00:59:07.800
<v Speaker 8>have a comment earlier before I forget. There's something that

967
00:59:07.840 --> 00:59:13.800
<v Speaker 8>Pastor Nick mentioned that in his explaining Blessed the Day

968
00:59:13.840 --> 00:59:17.360
<v Speaker 8>that Morn, how we need to grieve for ourselves, how

969
00:59:17.400 --> 00:59:23.440
<v Speaker 8>we need daily to basically pray for ourselves because we

970
00:59:23.480 --> 00:59:27.679
<v Speaker 8>are singing every day, knowingly or knowingly just because we're

971
00:59:27.719 --> 00:59:30.599
<v Speaker 8>living in such a sinful world. It just so happens

972
00:59:30.639 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 8>that somehow you just get to sing. And we need

973
00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.039
<v Speaker 8>to pray every day because we are not safe for

974
00:59:36.079 --> 00:59:38.840
<v Speaker 8>a day or an hour without prayer. So it's a

975
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:41.199
<v Speaker 8>reminder that we really need to pray. You know, when

976
00:59:41.199 --> 00:59:45.000
<v Speaker 8>the Bible says carry you across daily. It's not going

977
00:59:45.039 --> 00:59:47.280
<v Speaker 8>to be easy. It's not an easy journey. But we

978
00:59:47.360 --> 00:59:51.039
<v Speaker 8>need to pick ourselves up every day and grieve for

979
00:59:51.159 --> 00:59:54.559
<v Speaker 8>ourselves each and every day, or we'll be fine. It's

980
00:59:54.639 --> 00:59:58.079
<v Speaker 8>just a moment. There's light at the end of the tunnel.

981
00:59:58.079 --> 01:00:01.039
<v Speaker 8>One day we're going to go to heaven and your rejoice.

982
01:00:01.679 --> 01:00:04.599
<v Speaker 3>M h eternity doing.

983
01:00:07.039 --> 01:00:11.239
<v Speaker 4>Jore shore. Let's spray, let's spread. Father. We thank you

984
01:00:11.280 --> 01:00:19.599
<v Speaker 4>against your word, Thank you lort Jesus for the second beattitude,

985
01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:24.119
<v Speaker 4>this teaching that you gave about the importance of mourning.

986
01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:29.440
<v Speaker 4>It for us to be recipients of comfort that God gives.

987
01:00:30.679 --> 01:00:35.760
<v Speaker 4>I take this time to ask for your forgiveness for

988
01:00:35.880 --> 01:00:39.000
<v Speaker 4>us who are here right now on this platform, and

989
01:00:39.039 --> 01:00:41.880
<v Speaker 4>those who are hearing, and your people, your children in general.

990
01:00:42.639 --> 01:00:45.960
<v Speaker 4>But because at times it's it's become easy for us

991
01:00:46.039 --> 01:00:49.960
<v Speaker 4>to just be complicent with spiritual things and not necessarily

992
01:00:51.400 --> 01:00:54.519
<v Speaker 4>put ourselves in this place where we are pursuing you

993
01:00:54.920 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 4>and the things that matter to you. You have invited

994
01:01:00.079 --> 01:01:04.840
<v Speaker 4>us to moan. You've divided us to partic in your

995
01:01:05.000 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 4>spiritual grief. For God, you look around and you see

996
01:01:09.440 --> 01:01:12.440
<v Speaker 4>people who are suffering, people who are struggling, people who

997
01:01:12.440 --> 01:01:16.239
<v Speaker 4>have lost loved ones. You look around of God, and

998
01:01:16.239 --> 01:01:18.360
<v Speaker 4>you see people who are lost in their sins. You

999
01:01:18.400 --> 01:01:23.719
<v Speaker 4>look around and you see us who can become so

1000
01:01:23.719 --> 01:01:27.320
<v Speaker 4>so certain in our own righteousness that we are far

1001
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:31.920
<v Speaker 4>from you, Lord, Your Your Your invitation to this spiritual grief,

1002
01:01:32.199 --> 01:01:36.800
<v Speaker 4>to the spiritual moaning, is an invitation to be saved,

1003
01:01:37.119 --> 01:01:41.000
<v Speaker 4>an invitation to be particulus of your divine nature, and

1004
01:01:41.119 --> 01:01:45.800
<v Speaker 4>invitation to continue this work of humiliation in ourselves as

1005
01:01:45.800 --> 01:01:48.960
<v Speaker 4>we looked at last week, as it relates to being

1006
01:01:49.239 --> 01:01:53.639
<v Speaker 4>poor in spirit, being spiritually jsecute, and and oh God,

1007
01:01:53.800 --> 01:01:59.800
<v Speaker 4>you would not ask us to maintain spiritual moaning, spirit

1008
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:05.320
<v Speaker 4>maintain spiritual grief if it was not in necessity. And

1009
01:02:05.360 --> 01:02:07.920
<v Speaker 4>so I pray that that will be the reality for

1010
01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:10.599
<v Speaker 4>every single world, that we will make it our business

1011
01:02:11.079 --> 01:02:16.639
<v Speaker 4>to be determined to be deliberately, to discoverable what means

1012
01:02:16.719 --> 01:02:21.360
<v Speaker 4>to be to moan spiritually, but to do everything in

1013
01:02:21.480 --> 01:02:27.639
<v Speaker 4>our power to experience this morning for God while moaning

1014
01:02:27.679 --> 01:02:32.679
<v Speaker 4>and grieving emotions we do not want. You have made

1015
01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:37.880
<v Speaker 4>us this promise. If we pursue it, if we seek it,

1016
01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:42.320
<v Speaker 4>if we achieve it, you will bring the comfort and well,

1017
01:02:42.400 --> 01:02:44.679
<v Speaker 4>thank you and we'll bless your name.

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01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:49.679
<v Speaker 3>It is a prayer, Amen, Amen, Thank you passon k

1019
01:02:49.800 --> 01:02:52.280
<v Speaker 3>for the first half. Thank you for your prayer. And

1020
01:02:52.440 --> 01:02:54.400
<v Speaker 3>we're going to take a break, take a song. Just

1021
01:02:54.880 --> 01:02:58.920
<v Speaker 3>let it marry aid for a minute, and then we

1022
01:02:59.079 --> 01:03:02.480
<v Speaker 3>will be better to discussion. You're listening to talking point

1023
01:03:02.559 --> 01:03:04.440
<v Speaker 3>here on adventicst radio line.

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01:03:21.679 --> 01:03:22.400
<v Speaker 4>That I want to.

1025
01:03:22.400 --> 01:03:31.440
<v Speaker 9>Any way up Bert may do my choice.

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01:03:33.039 --> 01:03:36.840
<v Speaker 6>My heart was least my soul joy.

1027
01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:42.000
<v Speaker 4>But tell me how long have it been.

1028
01:03:43.559 --> 01:03:44.079
<v Speaker 9>Since the man?

1029
01:03:44.320 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 2>You know exactly how happy.

1030
01:03:49.320 --> 01:03:58.239
<v Speaker 9>I'm I'm valtize time you should do in a dniven life.

1031
01:04:01.599 --> 01:04:03.400
<v Speaker 10>Jumps tapping chat.

1032
01:04:04.840 --> 01:04:17.760
<v Speaker 9>And I her hoday now what.

1033
01:04:21.920 --> 01:04:23.360
<v Speaker 4>Oh my mind.

1034
01:04:31.880 --> 01:04:38.480
<v Speaker 6>Comn better every sweeten.

1035
01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:45.960
<v Speaker 10>And mine with long matter fact, that's how it's been.

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01:04:47.440 --> 01:04:48.880
<v Speaker 2>From the baby moment.

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01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:58.000
<v Speaker 10>I let you Winna how f F will dry stop

1038
01:04:58.119 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 10>me from making you set to love my life.

1039
01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:06.559
<v Speaker 9>After all day love.

1040
01:05:06.440 --> 01:05:11.559
<v Speaker 6>Me too, giving you my heart song alone with.

1041
01:05:21.440 --> 01:05:22.079
<v Speaker 9>Love you.

1042
01:05:26.840 --> 01:05:33.599
<v Speaker 4>So don't let you go.

1043
01:05:40.079 --> 01:06:04.360
<v Speaker 9>You get your fall, I give you more, yeah, every day,

1044
01:06:04.480 --> 01:06:05.280
<v Speaker 9>every day.

1045
01:06:06.599 --> 01:06:24.840
<v Speaker 3>So you know, yeah, yeah, I.

1046
01:06:24.960 --> 01:06:26.000
<v Speaker 9>Really love you.

1047
01:06:27.880 --> 01:06:36.000
<v Speaker 2>So never never.

1048
01:06:44.360 --> 01:06:45.320
<v Speaker 9>All up that.

1049
01:06:50.599 --> 01:06:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Never get I want it.

1050
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:58.159
<v Speaker 10>So let you go go, don't go to.

1051
01:07:28.920 --> 01:07:32.239
<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to talking points, and we are doing a

1052
01:07:32.360 --> 01:07:36.239
<v Speaker 3>deep dive into the beatitudes and passenic is really opening

1053
01:07:36.360 --> 01:07:43.199
<v Speaker 3>up our perspective on a very familiar passage or text,

1054
01:07:44.360 --> 01:07:47.119
<v Speaker 3>but really looking at it from a fresh perspective. So passonic.

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<v Speaker 3>We were thankful for that. Guys. I don't know what

1056
01:07:50.480 --> 01:07:54.639
<v Speaker 3>have you taken away from the first half before we

1057
01:07:55.000 --> 01:08:01.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of move on into the second And just to recap,

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<v Speaker 3>I shared it just before we close it. It is

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<v Speaker 3>the concept that it goes beyond maybe the physical morning

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<v Speaker 3>if that's the right term, or the emotional mourning, and

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<v Speaker 3>that we're talking about a spiritual mourning and understanding that

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<v Speaker 3>we are lost without God, lost without Christ, and having

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<v Speaker 3>a compassion for those around us as well, acknowledging that

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<v Speaker 3>we are all lost but for the grace of God.

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<v Speaker 3>So that for me is what I've taken away and

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<v Speaker 3>much more. Obviously from our first bit of the discussion,

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<v Speaker 3>Petro Angie Malemba, what has resonated with you?

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<v Speaker 7>And again i'd say the similar thing to what you

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<v Speaker 7>just said as well, but also recognizing that the comfort

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<v Speaker 7>is not just a temporary thing. In that moment, it

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01:08:58.399 --> 01:09:01.800
<v Speaker 7>can provide us with assurance that God is always going

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<v Speaker 7>to be with us. He gives us the hope, but

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<v Speaker 7>his comfort will be never lasting.

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<v Speaker 9>One.

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<v Speaker 7>Again, it's interesting that we have to meet that condition

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<v Speaker 7>of mourning, but again the promise of something greater is

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<v Speaker 7>always there. So that's what I kind of following on

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<v Speaker 7>from what you were saying there as well.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, and one thing I liked also is that we

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<v Speaker 8>share this morning because Jesus Christ went through the morning.

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<v Speaker 8>He mourns, and he was comforted by the Father, and

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<v Speaker 8>so we are happy knowing that we are not experiencing

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<v Speaker 8>something foreign. He came to leave like a human being

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<v Speaker 8>so that he should understand what we go through. And

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<v Speaker 8>so it's amazing to see that every time we go through,

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<v Speaker 8>be it physically, we lose a loved one. Jesus Christ

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01:09:53.239 --> 01:09:56.520
<v Speaker 8>lost their loved one, He lost his best friend Lazarus.

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<v Speaker 8>He knew what it felt like to lose a loved one.

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<v Speaker 8>When we lose people close to us, or when people

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01:10:03.119 --> 01:10:05.840
<v Speaker 8>deny us, when we feel sad, when we feel pain.

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<v Speaker 8>He felt all of that, and so it's just amazing

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<v Speaker 8>to see that I'm living through life just like Jesus

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01:10:12.960 --> 01:10:15.840
<v Speaker 8>Christ did live. And so when he says he will

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<v Speaker 8>comfort us, he is sure that he. We are sure

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<v Speaker 8>that he will comfort us because he understands what pain is.

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01:10:23.760 --> 01:10:27.399
<v Speaker 8>He understands what it means to mourn, be it for

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01:10:27.560 --> 01:10:31.720
<v Speaker 8>our spiritual lives. We cry for ourselves. He came to

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<v Speaker 8>die for our sins. He understands what it is to

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<v Speaker 8>feel empty and painful because of sin. And so when

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<v Speaker 8>he says it's going to comfort us, we need to

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<v Speaker 8>trust in him. We need to have faith that really

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<v Speaker 8>he is going to comfort us.

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<v Speaker 5>What I'm going to say is going to have it

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<v Speaker 5>sound crazy, but when I took from it, I know

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<v Speaker 5>it's going to sound crazy. The more I more, the

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01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:07.560
<v Speaker 5>closer I feel to God. Yeah, because I'm not afraid

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01:11:07.600 --> 01:11:10.279
<v Speaker 5>to mourn anymore now because I know when I'm more

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01:11:10.319 --> 01:11:13.239
<v Speaker 5>and God is with my walk of Christ, I know

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<v Speaker 5>I feel that God would be there to comfort me.

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<v Speaker 2>And hold me and protect me and get me through

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<v Speaker 2>the morning.

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<v Speaker 5>And then as we say, like you know, on the

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<v Speaker 5>other side, I know that I will then feel comfort

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<v Speaker 5>and his love and his joy and his happiness.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's kind of I don't know, that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>took from it personally, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Just brought my cup something else that you you hinted

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<v Speaker 3>that as well, the fact that we have to be

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<v Speaker 3>in a particular place with God to really understand and

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<v Speaker 3>have a heart like he has. And if we if

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01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:49.359
<v Speaker 3>we don't have a relationship with him ourselves, if we

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01:11:49.439 --> 01:11:59.680
<v Speaker 3>don't recognize our destitute selves, our broken selves, our sort

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<v Speaker 3>of in full self, then we won't really understand what

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01:12:04.000 --> 01:12:07.279
<v Speaker 3>it is to more and spiritually and to be in

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01:12:07.439 --> 01:12:10.520
<v Speaker 3>need of Him. And that really stems from having a

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<v Speaker 3>relationship with Him and knowing that we can't do any

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<v Speaker 3>of it without him. And you hinted at that at

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<v Speaker 3>the very very beginning, and you just kind of reminded

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<v Speaker 3>me again that we need to we need to have

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<v Speaker 3>a relationship with Him first and foremost.

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<v Speaker 5>Nothing works, because without the relationship, there's no there's no salvation,

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<v Speaker 5>there's no there's no understanding, there's no understanding, there's no

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<v Speaker 5>next there's no next level, there's no heaven. Yes, so

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<v Speaker 5>I just you know, and I said, that's why I said,

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<v Speaker 5>I just think I kind of nombra. I not think

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<v Speaker 5>of his morning as a good thing. I know that

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<v Speaker 5>may sound weird to me. This is my personal It

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<v Speaker 5>just to me is a good thing because it just

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01:12:49.560 --> 01:12:51.840
<v Speaker 5>showed I know that now my house side, I'm going

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<v Speaker 5>to get God is going to be there for me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll make it through.

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<v Speaker 4>Thing fedio in. I think one of the Old Testament

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01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:09.960
<v Speaker 4>passages in Issacae nine, the Bible speaks about and God.

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01:13:10.079 --> 01:13:16.640
<v Speaker 4>God praises the priests who moan between the port and

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01:13:16.720 --> 01:13:21.239
<v Speaker 4>the altar, and those who sign and cry for his people.

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<v Speaker 4>So listen, it is impossible for you to be a

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01:13:26.720 --> 01:13:30.000
<v Speaker 4>Christian and to be saved and not care about the

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01:13:30.119 --> 01:13:35.960
<v Speaker 4>things that God cares about. And while while the invitation

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01:13:36.159 --> 01:13:41.680
<v Speaker 4>to be saved is an invitation to something absolutely phenomenal

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<v Speaker 4>and greed, it is it's a cult of suffering, and

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01:13:46.239 --> 01:13:50.359
<v Speaker 4>not many persons like to hear that. In Collashion chapter one,

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<v Speaker 4>it's one of the passages I go to every now

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01:13:52.319 --> 01:13:55.359
<v Speaker 4>and then when you know it's difficult to be a

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01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:58.600
<v Speaker 4>pastor or lose it something that not want. We give

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01:13:58.680 --> 01:14:00.399
<v Speaker 4>up something every now and then when I want to

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01:14:00.479 --> 01:14:04.640
<v Speaker 4>remember why what called me into ministry, I go to

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01:14:04.720 --> 01:14:07.680
<v Speaker 4>Callers from chapter one where Paul speaks about his philosophy

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01:14:07.880 --> 01:14:10.880
<v Speaker 4>of ministry, and there he says that we are we

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<v Speaker 4>are called to suffer the same same way is used,

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<v Speaker 4>the same word for come, for for for for moving

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01:14:18.199 --> 01:14:22.199
<v Speaker 4>days loose uh. We are called to partake in the

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<v Speaker 4>sufferings of Christ. So while while and I guess that's

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<v Speaker 4>that's what makes it ironic, while it seems like a

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<v Speaker 4>wrong thing or something to not want, it's actually what

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<v Speaker 4>God is in inviting us to. So you're you're spots

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<v Speaker 4>on your spots on.

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<v Speaker 2>I just had another third walk quick sure.

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<v Speaker 5>With the morning right when we mourn and and you're grieving,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not just the morning of a of a lost one,

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<v Speaker 5>but like also the morning of when we see one

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01:14:57.560 --> 01:14:59.319
<v Speaker 5>of our family members that may be going down the

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01:14:59.359 --> 01:15:02.119
<v Speaker 5>wrong path from morning because you want to see them

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01:15:02.279 --> 01:15:03.079
<v Speaker 5>make it into heaven.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're like, look, you're doing this wrong thing.

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<v Speaker 5>Or even your fellow church member or just somebody that

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01:15:09.039 --> 01:15:10.680
<v Speaker 5>you care about, somebody that you deal with on a

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<v Speaker 5>daily basis at work. Like Melinda said, the cowork at work,

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01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:20.039
<v Speaker 5>you develop a relationship and so you mourn, and I

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01:15:20.159 --> 01:15:23.239
<v Speaker 5>think the morning, actually then I won't to say forces you,

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01:15:23.359 --> 01:15:26.720
<v Speaker 5>but it makes you want to tell people about Jesus.

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<v Speaker 2>Does that makes sense? Am I making it there?

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<v Speaker 5>Like I know, I just as you was talking, it

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<v Speaker 5>just kind of popped in my head because one thing

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<v Speaker 5>I noticed now with the passing of my brother, I

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<v Speaker 5>tell people about my brother and in the next sentence

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<v Speaker 5>comes out my mouth is what God has got my

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<v Speaker 5>back and He's helping me make it through this. And

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<v Speaker 5>then I start talking about Jesus to them. Even if

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<v Speaker 5>I know they don't want to hear it, I still

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<v Speaker 5>tell them about it, you know, like I still mentioning it.

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<v Speaker 5>I won't force it on them, but I will just

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<v Speaker 5>mention it if they want more information than I give

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01:15:58.520 --> 01:16:02.039
<v Speaker 5>them more information, you know. I think the morning can

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<v Speaker 5>sometimes make us proclaim a preacher talk or just witness

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<v Speaker 5>to other people.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, spots On spot on. Well, we

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<v Speaker 4>we do have the next part of this beautiful beatitude,

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<v Speaker 4>which is God's God, which is what God promises to

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<v Speaker 4>do for us. He says, those who moan they shall

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<v Speaker 4>be comforted. I love that. It's not they might be,

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<v Speaker 4>but they shall be comfortent. This is guaranteed. But the

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<v Speaker 4>question here is what does it mean to be comfortent?

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<v Speaker 4>How are those who who moan? How are they those

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01:16:57.600 --> 01:17:01.640
<v Speaker 4>who moans spiritually? How are they comfortable? So we do

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<v Speaker 4>a bit of a quick die into the word there

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<v Speaker 4>from morning it's actually it's actually uh two words that

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<v Speaker 4>comes together. From one. It's the the word power, which

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<v Speaker 4>means alongside from where we we of course you have

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<v Speaker 4>was like parachute in the English and so on that

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<v Speaker 4>coming with parachute paralegal, so the word para and the

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<v Speaker 4>second one, kalaios kalo, is to call. So in actuality,

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01:17:29.840 --> 01:17:34.279
<v Speaker 4>the word the word here that is really comforted means

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<v Speaker 4>to call alongside or to be close to four K

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<v Speaker 4>what's important for social coision?

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<v Speaker 8>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>That for me is absolutely beautiful because there are times

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<v Speaker 4>when you go through situations and circumstances and it feels

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01:17:53.159 --> 01:17:58.279
<v Speaker 4>like you are absolutely alone mm hm, and you feel

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<v Speaker 4>lost and you're wondering how am I going to get

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<v Speaker 4>some help here? But hair is God's promise. And by

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<v Speaker 4>the way, when uh Jesus speaks in John sixteen, and

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<v Speaker 4>he said I will tell you all the comfort the

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<v Speaker 4>same wood is usual and well we know it's paraclytoss.

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<v Speaker 4>It's the same root would So it's someone who comes

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01:18:22.720 --> 01:18:26.680
<v Speaker 4>alongside you. I wanted to get this. Guys comes alongside

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<v Speaker 4>you and does life with you. So when when when

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<v Speaker 4>God says heir, they they shall be comforting. God is

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<v Speaker 4>basically saying the level of comfort that you will receive.

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<v Speaker 4>I want use you to know that it's the level

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<v Speaker 4>of comfort whereby you won't be doing this alone. You

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<v Speaker 4>won't be doing this alone. Now, there is no English

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<v Speaker 4>would actually captures the meaning of paracalio. Here's the reason

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<v Speaker 4>you would notice Heir I said, it's coming alongside okay

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<v Speaker 4>and support, but we have the English would comfort him.

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<v Speaker 4>So no English would actually can really give you it

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<v Speaker 4>in full. Comfort is the closest that we come to. However,

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<v Speaker 4>the meaning is determined by the context. And I want

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<v Speaker 4>to share with you a few passages in the Bible

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<v Speaker 4>where the saybold is used, and you will see where

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<v Speaker 4>the context determines the meaning.

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<v Speaker 2>So in.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, So when Jesus had entered Kapanam, the Bible said

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<v Speaker 4>the centurially came to him. So we have heard a

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<v Speaker 4>story of the centurion who comes to Jesus asking for her,

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<v Speaker 4>but tially came to him. The phrase there came to

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<v Speaker 4>him is the same word paracaleo. So asking for her,

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<v Speaker 4>he said, my servant lives at home paralyzed, suffering terribly.

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<v Speaker 4>So the centurion, we could say, parakalo Jesus, so he'd

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<v Speaker 4>you near to Christ physically. And we have million of

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<v Speaker 4>the word. Again the context give it to us. Here

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<v Speaker 4>is an order example in Matthew chapter two on was eighteen,

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<v Speaker 4>Matti says, the voice is heard in Rama weeping and

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<v Speaker 4>great morning, Rachel wheeping for her children and refusing to

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<v Speaker 4>be comforted because they are no more.

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<v Speaker 1>And the word here is, of.

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<v Speaker 4>Course, if it means to come by, to come to,

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<v Speaker 4>to come by someone, to call be called by someone,

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<v Speaker 4>it means she's refusing anyone to come close to her

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<v Speaker 4>to bring her social support or social comfort. All right now,

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<v Speaker 4>The reason I deliberately chose those two verses just to

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<v Speaker 4>rebring it up is you just explained to us here

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<v Speaker 4>that the context determines the million of the word. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's a word when used in h in a feed

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<v Speaker 4>physical sense, like the centurion literally came close to so

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<v Speaker 4>It's like you're walking on the road and a friend

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<v Speaker 4>comes close by you to say hi or to work

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<v Speaker 4>with you. That the same wood is you. That's the millionaire.

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<v Speaker 4>In the context of Rachel weeping for her children, you

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<v Speaker 4>lost a loved one, people come by you, they come

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<v Speaker 4>close to you to bring comfort. That is from a

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<v Speaker 4>social context. Here in our second beatitude, the context is spiritual,

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<v Speaker 4>and I want us to get this guy. Contact is spiritual.

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<v Speaker 4>So blessed are those who moan, for they will be comforted.

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<v Speaker 4>And again the beatitude is this spiritual from dash Jesus

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<v Speaker 4>sets for this phenomenal sermon that he preaches.

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<v Speaker 1>So in matthith five, Parachalo is literally get.

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<v Speaker 4>This is literally God coming to our side so that

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<v Speaker 4>we can receive care, support and social cohesion spiritually, spiritually.

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<v Speaker 4>Now this excites me, and I'll tell you why. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>tell you why it's excites me because irrespective of what

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<v Speaker 4>I go through or where I am, keep in mind

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<v Speaker 4>that the the blessing, the macaraos, the spiritual untouch ability

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<v Speaker 4>is you being comforted in other words, in other words,

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<v Speaker 4>in other words, when you experience that spiritual spiritual grief,

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<v Speaker 4>that spiritual than God is saying here I will come, Yeah, you,

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01:22:47.720 --> 01:22:51.319
<v Speaker 4>I will come alongside you. When I have placed my

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<v Speaker 4>purpose in your heart and you are pursuing it as

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<v Speaker 4>a result of this spiritual grief, when you have understood

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<v Speaker 4>MY calling on your life and you are positioning yourself

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<v Speaker 4>for it as a result of that spiritual grief, when

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<v Speaker 4>you have loved and you have your heart is bleeding

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<v Speaker 4>for me, and you are in prayer and you are

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<v Speaker 4>pursuing me, and you are asking for blessings even on

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<v Speaker 4>your enemies. He's saying, I not only will I come

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<v Speaker 4>near you, but might coming near you is to provide

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<v Speaker 4>you the level of spiritual comfort that you need, the

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<v Speaker 4>strength that you need, the anointing that you need, the

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<v Speaker 4>blessing that you need, the thing that you need so

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<v Speaker 4>that you can accomplish whatever it is that I have

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<v Speaker 4>set on your heart as it relates to what you're

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<v Speaker 4>moaning about.

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<v Speaker 1>So the morning is not just moaning just to be comforted. No,

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<v Speaker 1>the comfort is coming so.

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<v Speaker 4>That, by God's grace, you are able to leave that

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01:23:56.479 --> 01:24:00.479
<v Speaker 4>life of fulfillment, that life where you are. You are

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<v Speaker 4>deliberately embacking on what God has called you to. And

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<v Speaker 4>guess what. Guess what? Guys, because it is McCarry yours,

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01:24:08.119 --> 01:24:11.720
<v Speaker 4>because you are it is you being spiritually unforchable when

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<v Speaker 4>God himself comes by to give you that level of

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual comfort as what was sweet about it? Do you

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<v Speaker 4>you remember when Paul was in prison on death row

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<v Speaker 4>and Emperor Never was getting ready to put him to death.

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<v Speaker 4>It is the final letter to Timothy that the very

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<v Speaker 4>last letter he writes is second Timothy in second Team

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<v Speaker 4>of chapter four from the sixth down all starts by saying,

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<v Speaker 4>I am now listen. He's about to die, the most

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<v Speaker 4>gruesome death from one of the worst emperors who leave.

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<v Speaker 4>He knew it, but he says, I'm now ready to

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<v Speaker 4>be offered. At the time of my departure is at hand.

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<v Speaker 4>I have thought a good fight, I have finished my course,

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<v Speaker 4>I have kept the fifth and I know there is

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<v Speaker 4>from you a front of righteousness, that level of comfort

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<v Speaker 4>where you are able to even look in the face

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<v Speaker 4>of danger, in the face of disappointment, in the face

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01:25:13.079 --> 01:25:18.399
<v Speaker 4>of obstacles. But God comes to give you this comfort.

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<v Speaker 4>He gives you this assurance, is certainty that what He

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<v Speaker 4>has called you to is not something that will fail.

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<v Speaker 4>What he has called you to is something that is

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<v Speaker 4>going to succeed, so he settles you spiritually despite what Listen, guys,

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<v Speaker 4>this for me is just absolutely mind blowing when you

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01:25:40.119 --> 01:25:43.319
<v Speaker 4>really think of what God is here talking about. So

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<v Speaker 4>let me just share this and then I'm happy to

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<v Speaker 4>open up to get some feel back from from your hair.

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<v Speaker 4>So it's another spiritual comfort. What Christ is saying here

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<v Speaker 4>is that you have the certainty that in your spiritual

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<v Speaker 4>needs will be met. That's why I will buy to

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<v Speaker 4>comfort you. And in terms of your specality has been met.

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<v Speaker 4>I am coming by with everything you need. So even

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01:26:09.720 --> 01:26:12.640
<v Speaker 4>when you might be alone and feeling like you're this

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<v Speaker 4>this willderness place, I am coming back with everything you need.

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<v Speaker 4>There is the thing, one of the mistakes we make,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm guilty of it, is that sometimes when we

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<v Speaker 4>when we feel the pressure is too much and the

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01:26:25.319 --> 01:26:28.039
<v Speaker 4>challenge is that too much, we back off or we

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01:26:28.159 --> 01:26:31.920
<v Speaker 4>try to fix things ourselves. Listen to me. You pursue

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01:26:32.039 --> 01:26:35.600
<v Speaker 4>God with that heart of spiritual moaning, and He's saying,

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<v Speaker 4>I will bring you comfort. I will bring you peace,

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<v Speaker 4>I will bring you safety, I will bring you satisfaction.

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<v Speaker 4>I will get you to the point where you will

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<v Speaker 4>receive absolutely everything that you need in order for your

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual growth to continue, in order for your spiritual purpose

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<v Speaker 4>to be realize. H And I guess, I guess want

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<v Speaker 4>to open up a little bit here. Of course, the

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<v Speaker 4>requirement is a lot of the commiss for us to

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01:27:12.840 --> 01:27:16.279
<v Speaker 4>meet those who would so we are responsible for pursuing

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<v Speaker 4>that morning to prayer, to opening up ourselves to the

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<v Speaker 4>world of God through listening to the conviction of the

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<v Speaker 4>Holy Spirit. But God says, when it comes through the

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<v Speaker 4>spiritual benefit, I provide it. And if I provide it,

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<v Speaker 4>no one can take it away from you. No one

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<v Speaker 4>can take it away from you. Let me, let me

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<v Speaker 4>just open up just to get some feedback from you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna throw it over to Malember, our bodying pastor.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm troubling you what what's what's your take on this?

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<v Speaker 3>And then we can see if Angie and Petro want

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<v Speaker 3>to chime in.

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<v Speaker 8>Okay. It's interesting, honestly seeing how God comforts us when

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<v Speaker 8>we are going through things that seem to be tough

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<v Speaker 8>in life. He just as a way of comforting us,

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<v Speaker 8>be it socially, when things are not going right, he

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<v Speaker 8>would send a friend to just give you hope of

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<v Speaker 8>the future, or hope that something good will happen. You know,

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<v Speaker 8>sometimes you try and apply for a job and you

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<v Speaker 8>don't get your preferred job. You feel so sad. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>and then a few months down the line, he blesses

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<v Speaker 8>you with a much better job than the one you

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<v Speaker 8>wanted earlier. He comforts you even in such moments. It's

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<v Speaker 8>not just grief of the lost one. Morning can be

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<v Speaker 8>in anything. We've learned that it can be any parts

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<v Speaker 8>of our lives that we feel low, physically, spiritually, even socially,

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<v Speaker 8>if I should add. And so it's amazing how God

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<v Speaker 8>comforts as like he pays detail to the little things

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<v Speaker 8>that make us happy, to the little little things that

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<v Speaker 8>we don't even think he does, but he really really does.

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<v Speaker 8>You lose a loved one, you have no idea how

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<v Speaker 8>you move on, you know. I remember one time going

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<v Speaker 8>to a funeral our church member back Homing Zambia lost

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<v Speaker 8>their husband and she was a dockerst leader at the time,

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<v Speaker 8>and so that people at the church were so sad

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<v Speaker 8>for her because she lost the husband. And so when

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<v Speaker 8>we went to the funeral house, instead of people encouraging her,

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<v Speaker 8>she started encouraging people and everybody was amazed. It's not

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<v Speaker 8>because she didn't feel the pain, but she knows who

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<v Speaker 8>she believes in, and people take grief differently. In that

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<v Speaker 8>moment after today, she says, I don't know how I

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<v Speaker 8>managed to stay strong all this time, but I know

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<v Speaker 8>God was with me through the journey. And now it's

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<v Speaker 8>been many years down the line and everybody shares that story.

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<v Speaker 8>That's why I can even say it here. And so

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<v Speaker 8>we find that even when we lose a loved one,

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<v Speaker 8>only God can help us get over the grief, because

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<v Speaker 8>it is not easy for us to do it on

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<v Speaker 8>our own. And his promises are sure. He told us

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<v Speaker 8>in the Bible that I will send you a comforter,

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<v Speaker 8>and He surely surely does comfort us. Now there's one comment, sorry,

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01:30:23.800 --> 01:30:25.920
<v Speaker 8>that I wanted to make earlier. I'm gonna make it

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<v Speaker 8>just now. Many of us want to be comforted in

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<v Speaker 8>any way. But we don't want to be the ones

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<v Speaker 8>experiencing the morning. We don't want to be the ones

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<v Speaker 8>to experience the loss of a loved one. We don't

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<v Speaker 8>to be the ones to experience a loss of a job.

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<v Speaker 8>We don't to be the ones to experience a loss

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<v Speaker 8>of anything valuable. Yet we want the pegs of it.

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<v Speaker 8>We want God to come through for us. You see

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01:30:50.800 --> 01:30:53.920
<v Speaker 8>how God blesss other people with something much better, but

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<v Speaker 8>we never ask them what is it that they lost

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<v Speaker 8>to get better. I'm not saying you can only get

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01:30:59.119 --> 01:31:03.560
<v Speaker 8>better when you lose something, but the Verse is telling

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<v Speaker 8>us that blessed are those who want for they will

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<v Speaker 8>be comforted. And so you look at your friend who

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01:31:08.880 --> 01:31:11.880
<v Speaker 8>has been comforted in one way, and you want the comfort,

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<v Speaker 8>but you don't want to go through the morning process.

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<v Speaker 8>It's it's like it's a journey. It's a two way thing.

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<v Speaker 8>You will go through the morning part and then the

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01:31:21.039 --> 01:31:24.239
<v Speaker 8>comfort comes. It's like one thing to have this powerful

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<v Speaker 8>testimony when you don't want to go through the teste.

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<v Speaker 8>Somebody said there's no testimony without the taste, and so

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<v Speaker 8>you are tested in one way or another and then

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01:31:34.439 --> 01:31:40.119
<v Speaker 8>you emerge victorious and negated testimony. Similarly, you go through

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<v Speaker 8>a morning phase of your life and because God's promises,

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<v Speaker 8>sure you are blessed because you are moaning, He's definitely

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<v Speaker 8>coming through to comfort you. That's what I would That's

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<v Speaker 8>been my take on.

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<v Speaker 3>This man man, Thank you Alamba Andrew Petro.

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<v Speaker 7>Just follow going for what Malemba was saying, it's something

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<v Speaker 7>I was thinking about earlier in terms of wanting not

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<v Speaker 7>Sometimes we don't necessarily want to go through something, but

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<v Speaker 7>we have the perks. I remember my dad passed away,

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<v Speaker 7>and you know, it was inevitable. He'd been ill, and

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01:32:15.920 --> 01:32:17.640
<v Speaker 7>it was inevitable that he was going to he was

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01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:20.720
<v Speaker 7>going to die, and I remember praying to God just

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<v Speaker 7>for the acceptance that that's going to happen. I wasn't

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01:32:23.439 --> 01:32:25.479
<v Speaker 7>necessarily saying to take away the fact that I'm going

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01:32:25.560 --> 01:32:28.680
<v Speaker 7>to be really sad, devastated, everything else, but I really

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01:32:28.720 --> 01:32:31.439
<v Speaker 7>just wanted the acceptance. And I remember having a dream

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01:32:31.800 --> 01:32:33.760
<v Speaker 7>and I was holding his hand, and I remember in

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01:32:33.880 --> 01:32:36.960
<v Speaker 7>the dream he was just slipping away, but he was saying,

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<v Speaker 7>it's going to be okay. And I really remember thinking

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<v Speaker 7>afterwards that was God's way of showing me that actually

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<v Speaker 7>I am with you. I'm going to bring you some comfort.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, devastating experiences I've had in my life, but

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<v Speaker 7>that's what I prayed for. And I remember, you know,

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<v Speaker 7>as years have gone past, sometimes you don't want, you

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<v Speaker 7>don't want to go through these sad things, but sometimes

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<v Speaker 7>you have to accept that these things maybe evitable. But

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<v Speaker 7>it's asking for that sort of either understanding the acceptance

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01:33:05.279 --> 01:33:08.039
<v Speaker 7>or you know, recognizing that, Okay, I'm going through something,

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01:33:08.119 --> 01:33:09.760
<v Speaker 7>but I need your help. And I just kind of

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<v Speaker 7>always and again, as Pedro was saying, sometimes you can

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<v Speaker 7>share your experience, you have a testimony and what have you.

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<v Speaker 7>And I've often shared that story because for me, it

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<v Speaker 7>was a direct answer to my prayers that I'm going

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<v Speaker 7>to go through an experience. I can't do anything about it,

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<v Speaker 7>but I've accepted it and I'm going to be okay.

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<v Speaker 7>And I definitely got an answer to that prayer and

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<v Speaker 7>I can share that, and you know, sometimes people say, well,

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<v Speaker 7>how did you go through something like that? How are

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<v Speaker 7>you able to kind of make it through?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 7>And I'm like, well, you know, I've got I have

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01:33:38.119 --> 01:33:40.199
<v Speaker 7>a I have a belief and a faith in God

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<v Speaker 7>that he promises that he will be with me. He promises.

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<v Speaker 7>And it's interesting whether the Greek word there is talking

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01:33:47.439 --> 01:33:51.680
<v Speaker 7>about being by your side. The comfort is not just

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01:33:51.840 --> 01:33:54.279
<v Speaker 7>you know from a distance, He's right there with you.

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01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.199
<v Speaker 7>And I believe that's what happened for me, and that's

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01:33:57.199 --> 01:33:58.800
<v Speaker 7>something that I can share with others as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Man and Petrick before you may want to jump in.

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<v Speaker 4>Just for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Is like you've said, it's it's it's been willing to

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01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:20.920
<v Speaker 3>even in terms of spiritual loss, it's been it's being

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01:34:21.119 --> 01:34:29.359
<v Speaker 3>willing to acknowledge that you are nothing, I am nothing,

1483
01:34:31.000 --> 01:34:35.880
<v Speaker 3>I am lost. It's that acknowledging that I am lost,

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01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:39.079
<v Speaker 3>or I have lost someone, I am broken, I am hurting.

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01:34:40.279 --> 01:34:44.359
<v Speaker 3>It's acknowledging that and recognizing that there is something on

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01:34:44.439 --> 01:34:50.760
<v Speaker 3>the other side of that, something wonderful, something better, as

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01:34:50.840 --> 01:34:54.520
<v Speaker 3>Malember has said. And sometimes it's hard to think that

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01:34:54.760 --> 01:34:58.279
<v Speaker 3>because all you can see is the loss, or all

1489
01:34:58.359 --> 01:35:01.359
<v Speaker 3>you can see is the pain or and I mean

1490
01:35:01.640 --> 01:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>we're talking about losing anything, and also we're talking about

1491
01:35:05.920 --> 01:35:12.439
<v Speaker 3>spiritual grief or mourning. So it's acknowledging that I am

1492
01:35:12.600 --> 01:35:16.640
<v Speaker 3>absolutely nothing. I can't do this. And if we don't

1493
01:35:16.640 --> 01:35:19.880
<v Speaker 3>acknowledge that, then we're not making room for him to

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01:35:20.159 --> 01:35:23.840
<v Speaker 3>to fill us, to comfort us. If we are operating

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01:35:23.960 --> 01:35:28.439
<v Speaker 3>like we're self sufficient, Hm, where where is his place.

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<v Speaker 9>In all this?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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01:35:30.239 --> 01:35:30.920
<v Speaker 7>That's very true.

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01:35:31.079 --> 01:35:33.119
<v Speaker 2>You know what, what what does he do?

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01:35:33.319 --> 01:35:36.239
<v Speaker 3>If we can do it all, if we are if

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01:35:36.279 --> 01:35:38.880
<v Speaker 3>we can operate on our own, if we can we

1502
01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:42.720
<v Speaker 3>can accomplish it by ourselves, and Malemba said that in

1503
01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:50.239
<v Speaker 3>her point previously. It's it's it's not not attempting to

1504
01:35:50.399 --> 01:35:54.680
<v Speaker 3>do it by ourselves, you know, because if we attempt

1505
01:35:54.720 --> 01:35:56.279
<v Speaker 3>to do it by ourselves, we're going to make a

1506
01:35:56.359 --> 01:36:01.159
<v Speaker 3>mess of it. It's recognizing that we need him. We

1507
01:36:01.359 --> 01:36:04.479
<v Speaker 3>need him to accomplish our purpose past you said it,

1508
01:36:04.560 --> 01:36:08.560
<v Speaker 3>we need it for us to fulfill our mission here.

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01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:12.800
<v Speaker 3>And ultimately our mission is to spread the Gospel, you know.

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01:36:12.960 --> 01:36:13.640
<v Speaker 8>That's it.

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01:36:14.319 --> 01:36:16.600
<v Speaker 3>That's the end game. If I should borrow that phase,

1512
01:36:17.119 --> 01:36:19.640
<v Speaker 3>that's the endgame. Our mission is to spread the Gospel

1513
01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:23.039
<v Speaker 3>and hasten His coming. But we won't accomplish that or

1514
01:36:23.159 --> 01:36:26.399
<v Speaker 3>any other thing unless we recognize we are empty vessels.

1515
01:36:28.000 --> 01:36:32.119
<v Speaker 3>That's really what's hit me tonight. We're empty vessels in

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01:36:32.319 --> 01:36:37.479
<v Speaker 3>need of him. We're broken vessels. Whether we are broken

1517
01:36:37.560 --> 01:36:40.720
<v Speaker 3>because we've lost loved ones, and Lord Jesus, I pray

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01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:44.680
<v Speaker 3>because I know that that is a painful position to

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01:36:44.800 --> 01:36:51.960
<v Speaker 3>be in. I've experienced that suddenly, you know, palpitations, loss

1520
01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:57.920
<v Speaker 3>of breath, just you're here today, gone tomorrow what and

1521
01:36:59.680 --> 01:37:01.520
<v Speaker 3>just not knowing where to go and what to do,

1522
01:37:02.199 --> 01:37:06.479
<v Speaker 3>and recognizing that I could not do it I could

1523
01:37:06.560 --> 01:37:09.760
<v Speaker 3>not get to the other side but for his grace,

1524
01:37:09.920 --> 01:37:11.000
<v Speaker 3>his mercy and his love.

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01:37:17.479 --> 01:37:19.359
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm sorry for me.

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01:37:20.000 --> 01:37:23.720
<v Speaker 5>I'm just gonna say for me, you guys pretty much

1527
01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:28.399
<v Speaker 5>touched on everything that I was thinking in a sense,

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01:37:28.960 --> 01:37:31.520
<v Speaker 5>and then some some stuff I wasn't thinking.

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01:37:32.680 --> 01:37:33.880
<v Speaker 2>For me, I guess only.

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01:37:34.479 --> 01:37:37.119
<v Speaker 5>I'm actually gonna just say one instead of saying the

1531
01:37:37.119 --> 01:37:41.239
<v Speaker 5>word comfort, I'll just from everything that we just spoke about,

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01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:44.439
<v Speaker 5>I just take it as reassurance m hm mm.

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01:37:44.399 --> 01:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Hmm and leave it at that m hmm for me.

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01:37:50.359 --> 01:37:54.039
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, bless bless there is there is something you said,

1535
01:37:54.840 --> 01:37:58.560
<v Speaker 4>Lilia Pedro and you you I think it was either

1536
01:37:58.600 --> 01:38:04.720
<v Speaker 4>yourself or who spoke on it as well, And there's

1537
01:38:04.880 --> 01:38:15.319
<v Speaker 4>it's that the process of morning, while it's uncomfortable, it's

1538
01:38:15.359 --> 01:38:20.319
<v Speaker 4>a blessing. And one of the reasons that it's a

1539
01:38:20.399 --> 01:38:24.920
<v Speaker 4>blessing is because God will allow persons to come your

1540
01:38:24.960 --> 01:38:29.640
<v Speaker 4>way whom you can minister, so you can empathize with

1541
01:38:29.800 --> 01:38:36.800
<v Speaker 4>them simply because you've gone through that that journey before

1542
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:41.239
<v Speaker 4>seven Conscience the one, three and four mixed a very

1543
01:38:41.319 --> 01:38:45.479
<v Speaker 4>very very interesting point. It mentions that the same word comfort,

1544
01:38:45.560 --> 01:38:47.880
<v Speaker 4>the same Greek would is used us. It mentions it

1545
01:38:48.119 --> 01:38:50.920
<v Speaker 4>all times, and I wanted to see how how poor

1546
01:38:51.039 --> 01:38:54.680
<v Speaker 4>brings it to a close. He says, crazy. Be to

1547
01:38:54.760 --> 01:38:57.000
<v Speaker 4>the God and Father of our love, Jesus Christ, the

1548
01:38:57.079 --> 01:39:00.760
<v Speaker 4>Father of compassion and the God of all comfort. So

1549
01:39:00.920 --> 01:39:03.600
<v Speaker 4>God praises a lot you expect of what you're going

1550
01:39:03.720 --> 01:39:06.720
<v Speaker 4>through our ho abilities is the God of all comfort.

1551
01:39:06.840 --> 01:39:10.199
<v Speaker 4>He comes close to us to journey and to work

1552
01:39:10.560 --> 01:39:15.720
<v Speaker 4>with us, who comforts us in all our troubles. Hallelujah.

1553
01:39:16.359 --> 01:39:20.199
<v Speaker 4>But here's why He does it, so that we can

1554
01:39:20.560 --> 01:39:26.760
<v Speaker 4>comfort those in any trouble with the comfort we ourselves

1555
01:39:26.920 --> 01:39:29.199
<v Speaker 4>receive from God.

1556
01:39:29.479 --> 01:39:29.880
<v Speaker 3>Amen.

1557
01:39:32.239 --> 01:39:37.159
<v Speaker 4>So so we don't go through things idly. So you

1558
01:39:37.239 --> 01:39:42.760
<v Speaker 4>guys don't know. I'm currently recovering from severe depression. It's

1559
01:39:42.800 --> 01:39:46.079
<v Speaker 4>one of the absolute worst experiences in my life. And

1560
01:39:47.479 --> 01:39:51.800
<v Speaker 4>a few months ago I was saying to one of

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01:39:51.880 --> 01:39:56.439
<v Speaker 4>my purses while we were at prayer meeting, and I'm

1562
01:39:56.520 --> 01:40:00.760
<v Speaker 4>borrowing your your your your words, Pedro. It sounds I

1563
01:40:00.840 --> 01:40:04.279
<v Speaker 4>said something a little bit crazy, but I told them

1564
01:40:04.279 --> 01:40:06.239
<v Speaker 4>and I mean it with all of my hat. That

1565
01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:10.279
<v Speaker 4>why I hated the experience. I'm grateful to God for it.

1566
01:40:11.680 --> 01:40:15.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm grateful to God for it. It has allowed me

1567
01:40:15.760 --> 01:40:23.000
<v Speaker 4>to see, to see colors I did no existent. It

1568
01:40:23.079 --> 01:40:27.479
<v Speaker 4>has allowed me to heir to heir notes I didn't

1569
01:40:27.600 --> 01:40:32.039
<v Speaker 4>know what being sun when when people now speak, I

1570
01:40:32.159 --> 01:40:36.880
<v Speaker 4>am able to see a little bit more what the

1571
01:40:37.079 --> 01:40:41.399
<v Speaker 4>experience is. And in my capacity as a pastor, my

1572
01:40:41.560 --> 01:40:47.880
<v Speaker 4>ministry has changed dramatically as a result. And and so

1573
01:40:48.680 --> 01:40:50.680
<v Speaker 4>it's like as a result of what I went through.

1574
01:40:50.800 --> 01:40:53.640
<v Speaker 4>Sometimes when I see people and I hear what they're saying,

1575
01:40:54.680 --> 01:40:57.560
<v Speaker 4>I begin to experience that spiritual morning and I have

1576
01:40:57.720 --> 01:41:00.359
<v Speaker 4>this desire or Lord, please help me so that I

1577
01:41:00.399 --> 01:41:03.199
<v Speaker 4>could help this person, or rather, God please help that

1578
01:41:03.520 --> 01:41:09.640
<v Speaker 4>listen now, And somehow the Lord brings that comfort and

1579
01:41:09.840 --> 01:41:14.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm able to minister to those people. And on a

1580
01:41:15.039 --> 01:41:17.760
<v Speaker 4>number of occasions sometimes I feel like I wish I

1581
01:41:17.800 --> 01:41:19.760
<v Speaker 4>could have done more. But then when they come back

1582
01:41:19.840 --> 01:41:22.399
<v Speaker 4>and they say, oh, Pastor, you know that day that

1583
01:41:22.479 --> 01:41:24.039
<v Speaker 4>you call it, that day that you prayer, that day

1584
01:41:24.079 --> 01:41:27.880
<v Speaker 4>that you preach this particular message has what did for me?

1585
01:41:29.680 --> 01:41:34.560
<v Speaker 4>This whole, this whole invitation to moan. While moaning and

1586
01:41:34.720 --> 01:41:39.399
<v Speaker 4>grieving is not nice, spiritual moaning and breathing is something

1587
01:41:39.479 --> 01:41:44.760
<v Speaker 4>we need. It is something we need, and so opening

1588
01:41:44.880 --> 01:41:47.640
<v Speaker 4>up ourselves to go and here's a guarantee of giving you.

1589
01:41:47.960 --> 01:41:49.880
<v Speaker 4>The more you open up yourself to go but you

1590
01:41:49.960 --> 01:41:54.039
<v Speaker 4>make yourself vulnerable to God, the more God is going

1591
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:57.359
<v Speaker 4>to expose you to more of his will. He will

1592
01:41:57.399 --> 01:42:01.079
<v Speaker 4>open up your eyes, open up your heart, allow you

1593
01:42:01.199 --> 01:42:05.640
<v Speaker 4>to partake in his own sufferings. The more you will

1594
01:42:05.720 --> 01:42:09.640
<v Speaker 4>experience that spiritual moaning and grieving. And guess what, that's okay.

1595
01:42:10.119 --> 01:42:12.600
<v Speaker 4>If it wasn't okay, he would not have said in

1596
01:42:12.680 --> 01:42:13.880
<v Speaker 4>the second beatitude.

1597
01:42:14.159 --> 01:42:14.720
<v Speaker 2>And there is a.

1598
01:42:14.760 --> 01:42:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Blessing pronounce on those who go through that experience. And

1599
01:42:18.000 --> 01:42:22.840
<v Speaker 4>the guarantee here is I will come alongside you. You're

1600
01:42:22.880 --> 01:42:26.319
<v Speaker 4>not doing this alone. I'm coming alongside you. I'm prepared

1601
01:42:26.319 --> 01:42:29.560
<v Speaker 4>to give you absolutely everything you need as long as

1602
01:42:29.600 --> 01:42:33.720
<v Speaker 4>you keep trusting in me, relying on me, and keeping

1603
01:42:33.800 --> 01:42:38.399
<v Speaker 4>your faith in me. I have everything that you need,

1604
01:42:38.760 --> 01:42:42.560
<v Speaker 4>not only to experience the comfort, but for you to

1605
01:42:42.600 --> 01:42:45.119
<v Speaker 4>be a blessing as well, for you to be a

1606
01:42:45.159 --> 01:42:51.399
<v Speaker 4>blessing as well. I I want to thank you guys

1607
01:42:51.439 --> 01:42:55.079
<v Speaker 4>so much for the privilege of being here again. And

1608
01:42:55.279 --> 01:42:57.399
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, well I'm not sure whether or not you

1609
01:42:57.520 --> 01:43:01.239
<v Speaker 4>have any any final take, anything at all that you

1610
01:43:01.239 --> 01:43:04.880
<v Speaker 4>would love to share, but I think for me in

1611
01:43:05.039 --> 01:43:10.199
<v Speaker 4>terms of the time, I'm pretty much call there any

1612
01:43:10.279 --> 01:43:12.880
<v Speaker 4>questions or in the last comments, I'm passing it on

1613
01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:13.399
<v Speaker 4>to you now.

1614
01:43:14.640 --> 01:43:17.920
<v Speaker 3>Thank you very much, Pastionic, and again I can't say

1615
01:43:17.920 --> 01:43:21.720
<v Speaker 3>it enough. You have really just given us a fresh

1616
01:43:21.800 --> 01:43:25.279
<v Speaker 3>perspective on this and we are looking forward to to

1617
01:43:25.920 --> 01:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>concluding the the series with you and perhaps looking again.

1618
01:43:34.279 --> 01:43:37.319
<v Speaker 3>I'm throwing it out there, Pastink as schedule would say,

1619
01:43:37.319 --> 01:43:39.319
<v Speaker 3>need to be bold with it. We're looking forward to

1620
01:43:39.479 --> 01:43:45.560
<v Speaker 3>doing another Bible study with you. Just say it in

1621
01:43:45.720 --> 01:43:48.479
<v Speaker 3>the next few months hopefully.

1622
01:43:50.600 --> 01:43:53.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, I was going to say that around.

1623
01:43:56.960 --> 01:44:00.520
<v Speaker 3>We book you for another Bible study session in the

1624
01:44:00.640 --> 01:44:01.520
<v Speaker 3>next few months.

1625
01:44:02.720 --> 01:44:04.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm sure, I'm sure we can do.

1626
01:44:04.079 --> 01:44:04.479
<v Speaker 2>We can.

1627
01:44:06.680 --> 01:44:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Perfect, we really are.

1628
01:44:10.119 --> 01:44:11.880
<v Speaker 2>We'd actually need to get him on. We actually need

1629
01:44:11.920 --> 01:44:13.399
<v Speaker 2>to get him off when we do the mental health.

1630
01:44:14.439 --> 01:44:18.119
<v Speaker 3>Yes, yes, he just what he just for what he

1631
01:44:18.319 --> 01:44:21.279
<v Speaker 3>just taught us, if he's wanting to, if he's wanting to.

1632
01:44:21.479 --> 01:44:22.720
<v Speaker 5>And I'm not trying to put you on the spot,

1633
01:44:22.760 --> 01:44:26.279
<v Speaker 5>Past the Nick, I apologize. I'm just because I think

1634
01:44:26.359 --> 01:44:28.479
<v Speaker 5>as men, I think it's men we don't we do

1635
01:44:28.680 --> 01:44:31.920
<v Speaker 5>not admit when we are we have issues, that we

1636
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:36.600
<v Speaker 5>have problems and we and we. I've always said that, like,

1637
01:44:36.680 --> 01:44:38.359
<v Speaker 5>I have no regrets on nothing that's happened in my

1638
01:44:38.439 --> 01:44:41.159
<v Speaker 5>life because whatever's happened in my life is made me

1639
01:44:41.199 --> 01:44:43.199
<v Speaker 5>who I am today and has allowed me to understand

1640
01:44:43.279 --> 01:44:46.960
<v Speaker 5>other people and other things that's going on that when

1641
01:44:47.039 --> 01:44:49.439
<v Speaker 5>I talk to them, they actually can see the transparency

1642
01:44:49.520 --> 01:44:52.319
<v Speaker 5>or they can see that I'm actually coming from a

1643
01:44:52.399 --> 01:44:55.079
<v Speaker 5>place of knowledge that I've been through it, because I

1644
01:44:55.119 --> 01:44:57.119
<v Speaker 5>think sometimes if you talk to somebody you've never been

1645
01:44:57.159 --> 01:44:59.680
<v Speaker 5>through it, they just kind of dismiss you because they're like,

1646
01:45:00.640 --> 01:45:02.840
<v Speaker 5>you know, he's just he's just talking. He's just you know,

1647
01:45:02.920 --> 01:45:05.239
<v Speaker 5>he's just saying whatever you know, or he's just saying

1648
01:45:05.239 --> 01:45:07.600
<v Speaker 5>a Bible verse because he's saying a Bible verse. And

1649
01:45:07.880 --> 01:45:11.520
<v Speaker 5>I think what you just said is so as a male,

1650
01:45:12.319 --> 01:45:15.119
<v Speaker 5>I just think that is so good here that a

1651
01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:19.079
<v Speaker 5>male you know, can be honest and then say.

1652
01:45:19.520 --> 01:45:23.560
<v Speaker 4>I'll say three three things in three three words to

1653
01:45:23.640 --> 01:45:25.560
<v Speaker 4>what you just said. That perpetual when it comes to

1654
01:45:26.119 --> 01:45:28.399
<v Speaker 4>even talking about Initially, for me, it was a bit

1655
01:45:28.520 --> 01:45:31.079
<v Speaker 4>of of you know, you don't really want to open up.

1656
01:45:31.479 --> 01:45:39.840
<v Speaker 4>But I've realized transparency mm hmm, authenticity and and and

1657
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:47.159
<v Speaker 4>just just being genuine and organic as you listen that

1658
01:45:47.359 --> 01:45:51.039
<v Speaker 4>level of honesty and openness about where you are, what

1659
01:45:51.199 --> 01:45:54.079
<v Speaker 4>your struggles have been, and have God come through for you.

1660
01:45:54.279 --> 01:45:57.079
<v Speaker 4>It resonates a lot more with people than when you

1661
01:45:57.720 --> 01:46:02.000
<v Speaker 4>you put a given, nice, funnished vision of the gospel.

1662
01:46:03.000 --> 01:46:04.560
<v Speaker 2>Definitely, and as a pastor.

1663
01:46:04.640 --> 01:46:07.600
<v Speaker 5>You know, people don't think pastor suffer, but I grew

1664
01:46:07.680 --> 01:46:09.319
<v Speaker 5>up as a pastor kid and I seen my father

1665
01:46:09.399 --> 01:46:14.640
<v Speaker 5>suffer and struggle, and so it just resonated with me

1666
01:46:14.720 --> 01:46:16.640
<v Speaker 5>when you said that, what you just talked about, because

1667
01:46:16.720 --> 01:46:19.319
<v Speaker 5>it just brought back what I used to see as

1668
01:46:19.319 --> 01:46:21.840
<v Speaker 5>a child. Because they think, you know, you're the pastor,

1669
01:46:21.920 --> 01:46:23.680
<v Speaker 5>so there's nothing wrong with you. You know, God has

1670
01:46:23.720 --> 01:46:26.600
<v Speaker 5>got you. So you're you're okay, You're gonna be fine,

1671
01:46:26.640 --> 01:46:28.359
<v Speaker 5>You're all right. You know, you're just praying to be

1672
01:46:28.359 --> 01:46:31.079
<v Speaker 5>all over with and done with. You know, God would

1673
01:46:31.159 --> 01:46:34.640
<v Speaker 5>just snap a finger and your you know, you're you're healed.

1674
01:46:35.239 --> 01:46:39.199
<v Speaker 5>And it's not always that simple. No, I mean, God, God,

1675
01:46:39.319 --> 01:46:41.479
<v Speaker 5>God can't bring God can't bring you out of it.

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<v Speaker 5>But it doesn't always happen in the timeframe that you

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<v Speaker 5>think it should happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, now we're already phip the discussion, but I

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<v Speaker 4>know I would be very very happy to to join

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<v Speaker 4>you guys for the conversation. And there's a lot that

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<v Speaker 4>I would love to share about it, especially from a

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<v Speaker 4>theological that as a result of going through what I

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01:47:09.560 --> 01:47:14.079
<v Speaker 4>went through, I have lit the lots where that subject

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<v Speaker 4>is concerned in the context of the Bible.

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<v Speaker 2>So what happened to you?

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<v Speaker 3>I was just going to add to that page, and

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry for interrupting. I thinks a little bit. It

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<v Speaker 3>goes beyond even the pastor it goes to what we

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01:47:29.720 --> 01:47:34.119
<v Speaker 3>think of Christians church goers. You know, we we have

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<v Speaker 3>this disillusion that that once.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a relationship with but you know, because the

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<v Speaker 2>past is the head of the church. I was talking.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't.

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't trying to downplay the just I'm saying it

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<v Speaker 5>for the people that's listening. I wasn't trying to downplay

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<v Speaker 5>the other folks or other people.

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<v Speaker 9>No, no, I know you're not.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was just talking perfectly.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm also adding to that because not only do

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<v Speaker 3>we think that have past us, but there are some

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<v Speaker 3>who think that because you're a Christian, or because you're

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01:48:08.079 --> 01:48:11.600
<v Speaker 3>God fearing, you can't go through struggle. And I was

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<v Speaker 3>also going to add to that or cement that with

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<v Speaker 3>the study that we've had or the studies we've had,

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01:48:17.239 --> 01:48:21.720
<v Speaker 3>it just exemplifies that or it gives us that reassurance

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01:48:21.760 --> 01:48:24.199
<v Speaker 3>that sometimes you have to go through it. And I

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<v Speaker 3>take the sometimes away we've got to go through it

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<v Speaker 3>and to see the blessing on the other side. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 3>that really is the essence of the study here that

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<v Speaker 3>we've done. Are so far in the beatitude spiritually and otherwise.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, that's my final thought. I might as well

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<v Speaker 3>throw that in there. Malember Angie. There is time for

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<v Speaker 3>about a minute for your your final thoughts on this

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<v Speaker 3>before we close with a prayer.

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<v Speaker 8>It's been very interesting and exciting. Honestly, I have loved

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01:49:00.680 --> 01:49:03.359
<v Speaker 8>the discussion. Thank you so much, Pastonic for the insights.

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<v Speaker 8>Blessed that does that mourn for they will be comforted.

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<v Speaker 8>My takeaway of my final thoughts that we need to

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<v Speaker 8>be grateful to God when we go through sad moments

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<v Speaker 8>or moments that we can consider morning periods, because it's

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<v Speaker 8>in such that God is going to eventually comfort us.

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<v Speaker 8>We see His goodness regardless of what we go through,

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<v Speaker 8>and we need to mourn for ourselves for our lives.

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<v Speaker 8>Need to grieve for ourselves. We need to pray for ourselves.

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<v Speaker 8>We need to pray for God to protect us from

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<v Speaker 8>sin because we're in this world and we basically just

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<v Speaker 8>let's take care of each other. Let's always look out

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01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:52.640
<v Speaker 8>for our friends. We learned of how we need to

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01:49:52.960 --> 01:49:56.439
<v Speaker 8>take care of the list of these in our communities.

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<v Speaker 8>Let us live like Christ lived and to share in

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<v Speaker 8>his saffering just like he did, to be sympathetic and empathetic,

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01:50:06.239 --> 01:50:10.960
<v Speaker 8>and that way we will really live like Christians should live,

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<v Speaker 8>because then we are living like Christ lived. And just

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<v Speaker 8>remember that you won't always be loved, because even Jesus

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01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:23.800
<v Speaker 8>Christ was not loved as much as he is God,

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<v Speaker 8>and he came to his own and his own denied him.

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<v Speaker 8>Not everybody will love us. But because we are Christians

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01:50:30.399 --> 01:50:33.479
<v Speaker 8>and we are living in accordance to God's will, we

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<v Speaker 8>will go through moments that will be hectic for us,

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01:50:36.520 --> 01:50:40.079
<v Speaker 8>moments that we can cause suffering or morning. But they

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<v Speaker 8>assurance I will get that way from Pedro, not just comforting.

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<v Speaker 8>There's assurance that at the end of whatever we are

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<v Speaker 8>going through, Jesus Christ, God is always there with us.

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01:50:53.640 --> 01:50:55.800
<v Speaker 8>His promises are sure. He tells us that he will

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<v Speaker 8>never leave us nor forsake us. So regardless of what

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01:50:59.359 --> 01:51:03.039
<v Speaker 8>we go through, should remember that if we have faith

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<v Speaker 8>and believe, you will be there with us through our journey.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm the world was reassurance and that assurance, but

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying.

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<v Speaker 8>To be okay.

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<v Speaker 2>To clarify that.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, thank you, I was just going to sound much more,

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01:51:25.279 --> 01:51:27.399
<v Speaker 7>but I can add on to that. But I think

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<v Speaker 7>one of the things I did take away from this

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<v Speaker 7>especially and again thank you past to Nick for breaking

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<v Speaker 7>this down for us, is also how it feeds into

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<v Speaker 7>our mission to spread God's word, because when we are

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<v Speaker 7>experiencing experience in the spiritual mourning, that's when we become

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<v Speaker 7>sensitive to the things that you know, God mourns for.

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<v Speaker 7>We will be caring about those things and the things

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<v Speaker 7>that people and what people are around us who are suffering,

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<v Speaker 7>not going the right path, et cetera. And that will

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<v Speaker 7>be our opportunity to try and make a difference in

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<v Speaker 7>their lives. And I think, you know, in terms of

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<v Speaker 7>then achieving that level of mourning that we can feed

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01:52:09.000 --> 01:52:11.560
<v Speaker 7>into to to then receive that level of comfort. But

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<v Speaker 7>we're also spreading, you know, talking about his words, spreading

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<v Speaker 7>his gospel, et cetera as well. So I think it's

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<v Speaker 7>you know how, it's really interesting to see how it

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<v Speaker 7>links into really the mission about what you know, on

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<v Speaker 7>our purpose of what we're cal to do. So that's

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<v Speaker 7>one of the things I've taken from that today.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I truly hope that you have been blessed. Thank you, Angie,

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you Pastor Nick. Again, Pajo, why don't you close

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<v Speaker 3>us out with a prayer? I think our time is

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<v Speaker 3>fast close us out, well, he prayed twice. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>I'm asking you to close us up, because you do

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<v Speaker 3>it so well. You should not mind. Now you're the closer.

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<v Speaker 2>I was about here having heavny.

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<v Speaker 5>Father, we thank you for bringing us to another ending

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<v Speaker 5>of a talking point that was enlightening, encouraging and reassuring

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<v Speaker 5>and comforting.

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<v Speaker 2>We ask Lord that you are now be with us

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<v Speaker 2>as we go through this week.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of the words that has been spoken out

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<v Speaker 5>of our mouths and the words that people are hearing,

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<v Speaker 5>that we'll be able to use those in our daily

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<v Speaker 5>lives going forward. Then we'll be able to understand the

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<v Speaker 5>comfort and the suffering and the mourn, that we may

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<v Speaker 5>feel that God will be there to protect this. God

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01:53:30.159 --> 01:53:32.800
<v Speaker 5>will be there to comforters, and he will be there

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<v Speaker 5>to help us through those times of troubles. We ask

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<v Speaker 5>Lord to j will be of each and every one

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<v Speaker 5>of us again as we start this week and as

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<v Speaker 5>we going to the evening, we ask the Jill just

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<v Speaker 5>be with us and break us up the next morning

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<v Speaker 5>in our right minds and then our right spirits, that

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<v Speaker 5>we may continue to serve you. Thank you love for everything,

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<v Speaker 5>and for your love and your grace for this uprating

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<v Speaker 5>your holy name.

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<v Speaker 3>Amen, Amen, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 9>Well.

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<v Speaker 3>It's good night, and God bless from me Daniel for

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<v Speaker 3>me Angela.

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<v Speaker 8>Good night from Mulamba and good night from Pedro.

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<v Speaker 3>Doubless you and see you again next time a.

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<v Speaker 10>Bye.

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<v Speaker 7>Adventist Radio London inspiration for the song
