Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to KFI
Speaker 1: AM six forty the Gary and Shannon Show on demand
Speaker 1: on the iHeartRadio app. Is that what your sweepers just
Speaker 1: setting up the lights, the mobile light units, closing down lanes.
Speaker 1: Nothing's really even going on yet, but let's close it
Speaker 1: all down in rush hour like before nine am. I
Speaker 1: want it which takes away lanes from you know, necessary travel.
Speaker 2: I want to say it has something to do with unions, okay,
Speaker 2: but I don't know that for certain like the union
Speaker 2: would prefer that they work during the day than overnight,
Speaker 2: despite the fact that everybody else in the world.
Speaker 3: I love that for them after nine am.
Speaker 4: Would rather they work at some point.
Speaker 1: And shutting down lanes in the eight o'clock hour seven
Speaker 1: o'clock hour is especially when nothing's going on yet, is perplexing.
Speaker 4: Well, welcome, you made it good. That's a good thing.
Speaker 2: So the President is in Abu Dhabi today and in
Speaker 2: the UAE. He's there continuing his trip throughout the Middle East.
Speaker 2: We'll talk about what kind of stuff is going on
Speaker 2: with him. He's not making a whole lot of headlines
Speaker 2: today other than this headline that is the Supreme Court
Speaker 2: today is talking about his executive order that would otherwise
Speaker 2: end birthright citizenship, and it is the first time that
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court is hearing arguments on a Trump policy
Speaker 2: since he took office. They could have a sweeping implications
Speaker 2: for his ability, of course, to implement whatever agenda he
Speaker 2: has been going through.
Speaker 4: We know the record number.
Speaker 2: Of executive orders that he has been able to sign
Speaker 2: in and then the very few pieces of legislation that
Speaker 2: he's actually signed. I think it's somewhere like five or
Speaker 2: six bills that he's actually signed into law in the
Speaker 2: first one hundred and some odd days of his presidency,
Speaker 2: which would be one of the fewest, if not the fewest,
Speaker 2: we've ever seen. So the question on the table for
Speaker 2: the Supreme Court is birthright citizenship. Fourteenth Amendment basically guarantees
Speaker 2: that anybody born within the United States or a territory
Speaker 2: thereof is granted citizenship in the United States. No questions asked.
Speaker 2: That's not where it ends. That's not where this question ends.
Speaker 2: But University of Virginia Law School professor Amanda Frost says,
Speaker 2: this is pretty clear that part of the question is pretty.
Speaker 5: Clearcutship is so fundamental and this executive order would create
Speaker 5: such chaos or to go into effect that I have
Speaker 5: trouble believing that five justices would conclude that the executive
Speaker 5: order is not just constitutional but also doesn't violet the statute.
Speaker 5: I mean that it's such a clear cut case for
Speaker 5: finding executive order to be illegal.
Speaker 1: But that is not what the Supreme Court weighs. What
Speaker 1: kind of chaos would this cause? How much? And do
Speaker 1: we want to deal with that? That's not something I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to And then they don't. I don't believe they do.
Speaker 2: But the other question about this specific case is what
Speaker 2: power does a single federal judge have? Can one federal
Speaker 2: judge in one small district I think there's a few
Speaker 2: six hundred I think is the number. I saw, six
Speaker 2: hundred districts for these federal judges. Does one judge in
Speaker 2: a tiny little district like that have the power to
Speaker 2: issue an injunction nationwide?
Speaker 4: Loyal LA Law School professor Justin Levitt.
Speaker 6: The narrowwerk question for the court is, if one judge
Speaker 6: decides that the government's doing something wrong, can it order
Speaker 6: the government to stop for everybody? Or better put, what
Speaker 6: are the conditions under which it can order the government
Speaker 6: to stop for everybody.
Speaker 2: So the Solicitor General in this case, John Sower, complained
Speaker 2: to the justices that there was was this cascade of
Speaker 2: these injunctions, these nation wide injunctions against a bunch of
Speaker 2: executive orders from the president, and he argued that that
Speaker 2: created a host of practical problems and said, these orders
Speaker 2: are a bipartisan problem, these injunctions that has now spanned
Speaker 2: the last five presidential administrations.
Speaker 4: And he's right.
Speaker 2: I mean, people on both sides of the political aisle
Speaker 2: have complained about a single judge being able to issue
Speaker 2: a national injunction on certain cases. But that argument of
Speaker 2: it just causes chaos. To your point, that's not why
Speaker 2: we do away with things. Generally, there is a process
Speaker 2: by which we live by the rule of law. That's
Speaker 2: one of the arguments against what the deportation programs that
Speaker 2: the Trump administration has embarked upon right now is that
Speaker 2: they're flooding the zone. Trump's oone argument is, okay, well,
Speaker 2: if we try to give everybody their due process, we're
Speaker 2: talking about millions of cases that they would have to
Speaker 2: go through that the immigration system simply cannot handle. That
Speaker 2: is not the that's not the right argument. The idea
Speaker 2: of chaos is something that we need to figure out
Speaker 2: and deal with, and that doesn't necessarily meaning do away
Speaker 2: with the rule of law.
Speaker 1: Mean Girls continues on the world stage as President Trump
Speaker 1: and Vladimir Putin are no shows. When it comes to
Speaker 1: Vladimir's Lenski, I mean, they're just like, we don't want
Speaker 1: to hang out with you. Putin's like, am I going
Speaker 1: to hang out with you? Trump's like, why would he
Speaker 1: go if I'm.
Speaker 3: Not going to go?
Speaker 1: It's very Mean Girls. We'll get to all the latest
Speaker 1: when we come back. Also, you're shot at one thousand dollars.
Speaker 2: It struck me as the inviting somebody to a fake
Speaker 2: party and then watching them show up.
Speaker 3: Like middle school girls do.
Speaker 1: Like in Mean Girls, when they invite her to the
Speaker 1: party and they say it's a costume party and she
Speaker 1: shows up as a bunny.
Speaker 3: Hate costume parties, You love costume parties.
Speaker 4: Garyan Shannon will continue.
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Speaker 2: much more in the month of June.
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Speaker 3: President Trump says he's.
Speaker 1: Not surprised that Putin was a no show for peace
Speaker 1: talks with Ukraine.
Speaker 8: Nothing's going to happen until Putin and I get together, Okay.
Speaker 8: And obviously he wasn't to go. He was going to go,
Speaker 8: but he thought I was going to go. He wasn't
Speaker 8: going if I wasn't there. I actually said, why would
Speaker 8: he go if I'm not going because I wasn't going
Speaker 8: to go.
Speaker 7: I wasn't planning to.
Speaker 8: I would go, but I wasn't planning to go. And
Speaker 8: I said, I don't think he's going to go if
Speaker 8: I don't go.
Speaker 4: And that's turned out to be right. Nobody.
Speaker 1: It's such a female middle school, high school response. It
Speaker 1: just is if you are a female and you went
Speaker 1: to high school, you know exactly what that is. Same thing,
Speaker 1: same thing of a party you're going to go to.
Speaker 1: If your best friend isn't going to a party, you're
Speaker 1: not going to go to that party. And if you know,
Speaker 1: maybe a friend who wants to be in the friend group,
Speaker 1: they're going to the party, but your friend's not going,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna go to the party to see your
Speaker 1: friend that you're not really that close with. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's all very reminiscent of the hellish time that is
Speaker 1: in a girl's life.
Speaker 4: And then whoever does go to that party's at dork.
Speaker 1: Do guys do that or is that a female thing
Speaker 1: that is very much a female Yeah. Trump did leave
Speaker 1: open the possibility of going to Turkey tomorrow. He acknowledged
Speaker 1: he does have a full schedule on his next stop
Speaker 1: in the Middle East UAA.
Speaker 2: But let's be clear, the President wants to go to Turkey.
Speaker 2: He's going to go to Turkey because the full schedule
Speaker 2: will be damned. He can do whatever the hell he wants. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the Secret Service will make it happen.
Speaker 7: Right.
Speaker 2: President Zelenski of Ukraine did show up in Turkey today
Speaker 2: to underscore his commitment to end even war and then
Speaker 2: just stood on the tarmac and basically went where is everybody?
Speaker 2: He is going to be meeting with the president of
Speaker 2: Turkey rests up Erdowan in Ankora. But he is not
Speaker 2: expected to meet with the group that is there from Russia.
Speaker 2: And again, this is a bunch of Triple A guys
Speaker 2: that show up from Moscow, not the major league guy
Speaker 2: that he wants to talk.
Speaker 1: To to play devil's advocate is Zelenski on the same
Speaker 1: level that President Trump and Vladimir Putin are.
Speaker 4: No, he is not. He is not a world power.
Speaker 1: He's just not. And they're showing him that. They're trying
Speaker 1: to say, Hey, you've gotten too big for your breitches.
Speaker 1: Pipe down. We'll meet you with you on our schedule.
Speaker 1: We're going to give you what we give you, we will.
Speaker 1: And that's just that. Putin included. If I want to
Speaker 1: see land to you, I will do that, but there's
Speaker 1: no way in hell you're going to force me.
Speaker 3: Trump saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: If I want to give you aid, I'll do so,
Speaker 1: but there's no way you're going to have a say
Speaker 1: in it.
Speaker 4: You don't have that power.
Speaker 2: It would be nice if Trump got back to his
Speaker 2: frustration with Vladimir Putin. Remember after there was some talk
Speaker 2: of a deal, Vladimir Putin launched a handful of missiles
Speaker 2: and drones at Ukraine. And whatever frustration comes out of
Speaker 2: a truth social post of Vladimir. Stop the weakness that
Speaker 2: that was. But they need each other.
Speaker 1: And if you know this about popular girls sticking together,
Speaker 1: yes they do have problems.
Speaker 3: With each other from time to time.
Speaker 1: They're not always in line with each other, but they
Speaker 1: need each other because together they're more powerful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but to me, that's the only crack that's
Speaker 2: gonna If there is a crack between those two, that's
Speaker 2: the thing that is gonna facilitate some sort of piece.
Speaker 1: The only crack. Do you think Trump cares about attacks
Speaker 1: on Ukraine?
Speaker 4: He does not. The only thing that will well.
Speaker 2: It makes him look bad, It makes him look like
Speaker 2: he can't control Vladimir Putin right, and.
Speaker 3: He can't cannot.
Speaker 1: So so they both have to realize that they can't
Speaker 1: control each other. You got two type a's here, two
Speaker 1: alpha dogs that realize that they need to exist together.
Speaker 1: And the only way they can do that because neither
Speaker 1: one is backing down. It's kind of like China and
Speaker 1: Us when it comes to Trey talks. No one's backing
Speaker 1: down from this. No one's going to be the patsy here.
Speaker 1: Like you have to just realize you're up against another
Speaker 1: alpha and then you just crap on people together because
Speaker 1: that's all that's left.
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what's left. Was Zelenski.
Speaker 2: Now there are some other talks that are going on
Speaker 2: that are lower level talks. I mentioned the Triple A
Speaker 2: team that's there from Moscow. We kind of have our
Speaker 2: own Triple A team. We have Secretary of State Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio who is in town, Senator Lindsay Graham, the Foreign
Speaker 2: ministers of France, Germany and Poland are there.
Speaker 3: Has Marco Rubio located his balls?
Speaker 7: Do we know?
Speaker 4: I haven't seen still he's actually.
Speaker 3: We have like a find my balls alert on our phone.
Speaker 2: He's the one cabinet member that has gotten particularly staunch
Speaker 2: support from from both sides of the aisle and the
Speaker 2: work that he's been doing, at least in the early
Speaker 2: days of the of the this administration. He is doing
Speaker 2: the dirty work, it seems of President Trump. But Middle
Speaker 2: East and Russian Envoy Steve Witcoff, his Special Envoy for
Speaker 2: Ukraine Keith Kellogg are all expected there. So I mean,
Speaker 2: we're getting a good International League versus Pacific Coast League
Speaker 2: matchup between those those Triple A players.
Speaker 4: But we want to see the big ones.
Speaker 2: We want to see Putin and Trump and Zelenski there
Speaker 2: in Turkey making some.
Speaker 1: Hay Didty's former girlfriend Cassie Ventura back on the witness
Speaker 1: stand today. A lot of the media backing off the
Speaker 1: details because yes, we've done the same thing. There's things
Speaker 1: where we're like, we're not going to get into that,
Speaker 1: but we knew this testimony was coming on cross that
Speaker 1: His defense has been that this is all consensual, and
Speaker 1: the defense is bringing up text messages that kind of
Speaker 1: say just that. One of the latest ones is that
Speaker 1: she expressed to Diddy that she was excited to participate
Speaker 1: in freak offs. Now with that text message where she
Speaker 1: says I'm down, also comes with the context that she
Speaker 1: was twenty one at the time. This was a relationship
Speaker 1: where the power was completely not balanced, and you're going
Speaker 1: to probably want to go along with whatever the guy
Speaker 1: who has the power wants to go along with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the prosecution has done a good
Speaker 2: job of describing and characterizing that fear that she had
Speaker 2: of him, and that they'll do so again when they
Speaker 2: have a chance to redirect, when they come back and
Speaker 2: ask her again.
Speaker 4: But again the defense is on the stane. We'll talk
Speaker 4: about some of the questions they've been asking her.
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Speaker 8: so great in the dress.
Speaker 4: Oh, thank you, you do. It's very nice you do.
Speaker 3: I mean your calves are a little large, but.
Speaker 4: Listen to you ankle lady. Oh thanks, Serry.
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Speaker 2: I was going to use the word sturdy, but strong
Speaker 2: was probably the more complimentary way to put it.
Speaker 1: The Sean Diddycomb's federal sex crimes trial back underway in
Speaker 1: New York City. Former girlfriend remains on the stand. This morning,
Speaker 1: the jury was shown emails between Puffy and Cassie Ventura.
Speaker 1: He's accused, of course, of forcing victims to take part
Speaker 1: in these drug and sex field parties over two decades.
Speaker 1: Faces life in prison for sex trafficking and other charges.
Speaker 1: His defense is, no crimes were committed and the accusers
Speaker 1: are out for money. I'm just going to park the
Speaker 1: car there for a second and walk over to the
Speaker 1: other side of the street where Smokey Robinson, by the way,
Speaker 1: was accused of stuff a couple of weeks ago by housekeepers.
Speaker 1: You would have thought with the career that Smokey Robinson
Speaker 1: had if that was the case, if he was that guy,
Speaker 1: and I again I'm not calling him a saint, I
Speaker 1: don't know him, but if he was that guy, there
Speaker 1: would have been more women that have come out since
Speaker 1: those allegations surfaced.
Speaker 4: If he was that.
Speaker 1: Guy that didn't start when he turned eighty, that didn't
Speaker 1: start when he turned seventy five, or however far those
Speaker 1: accusations go back. It's not that long, but there would
Speaker 1: be more women that have come forward since those initial
Speaker 1: women filed.
Speaker 2: You can use the context of Bill Cosby. Kind of
Speaker 2: right about that, because that was a long time when
Speaker 2: the words, when the allegations finally came out about Bill Cosby,
Speaker 2: there were a lot of people who came out and
Speaker 2: suggested that he was a predator in a way that
Speaker 2: we had never expected.
Speaker 3: Right, but we haven't seen that with Smokey.
Speaker 1: All right, leave that car over there, go back to
Speaker 1: the other side of the street. Now we knew this
Speaker 1: was going to come, right. We knew that they were
Speaker 1: going to go after Cassie and her character after she
Speaker 1: laid out Ditty for the prosecution right in the last
Speaker 1: couple of days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, that today would be
Speaker 1: the day when they tried to impugne her character.
Speaker 3: Is that the right way to say that?
Speaker 4: Great? Okay? Perfect?
Speaker 1: She did via text message evidence expressed to Ditty that
Speaker 1: she was excited to participate in freak offs.
Speaker 2: This is a We mentioned this that this is going
Speaker 2: to be a touchy.
Speaker 4: The defense has an interesting.
Speaker 2: Line here because you're talking to a young mother who
Speaker 2: is eight and a half months pregnant, she's got two
Speaker 2: little kids, her husband's in the gallery, and the defense
Speaker 2: attorney in this case, Anna estev Esteval, who is on
Speaker 2: the Diddy team started questioning Cassie in what a Hollywood
Speaker 2: reporter called a very gentle tone of voice. Notable because
Speaker 2: a lot of times on cross examination, the first thing
Speaker 2: you do is you go in, You agitate the witness,
Speaker 2: you unsettle them, you cause them discomfort.
Speaker 4: But you can't do.
Speaker 3: That with a woman who's eight and a half months pregnant.
Speaker 2: Right, so she has to basically, she being the defense attorney,
Speaker 2: has to come in and say, basically, oh, you're mistaken,
Speaker 2: kind of like you're doing. We understand that you're upset,
Speaker 2: but you're upset for the wrong reasons. And she said,
Speaker 2: you and Sean Combs were in love for eleven years.
Speaker 2: You loved him and believed him that he loved you
Speaker 2: as well, and then said that love explains why it
Speaker 2: hurts so bad when he lied and when he cheated
Speaker 2: on you. And Cassie said yes to both of those.
Speaker 2: And the text messages you mentioned. One of them was
Speaker 2: a text message from Cassi Ventura two Sean Combs in
Speaker 2: April of twenty ten, quote, going to sleep now so
Speaker 2: it can be tomorrow faster and you can and you
Speaker 2: can be home. Love you, and he replied, love my baby.
Speaker 1: There was a text message in August of two thousand
Speaker 1: and nine that read this, I'm always ready to freak off.
Speaker 1: It can be whenever. Now that was two thousand and nine.
Speaker 1: It seems like the freak offs evolved, shall we say,
Speaker 1: to twenty seventeen, when the most gruesome of the testimony
Speaker 1: is that we heard earlier in the week is from
Speaker 1: they claim everything was consensual, and that's what they're trying
Speaker 1: to convey by these text messages being read in court.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and you said this yesterday or the day before.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's a hard that's a hard bar to get
Speaker 2: over for the defense to be able to claim that
Speaker 2: a woman wants that. Yeah and yeah, you could point
Speaker 2: to these these text messages as suggesting that it's either
Speaker 2: one of two things. Either she was into it, or
Speaker 2: two she was very fearful of this guy because, as
Speaker 2: you mentioned, the power dynamic was so wildly in his favor,
Speaker 2: and she had this burgeoning career that if she crossed him,
Speaker 2: she felt like at the snap of his fingers she
Speaker 2: would be destroyed.
Speaker 7: And he was.
Speaker 2: Holding over her head these videos where he claimed that
Speaker 2: he would make her look like a slut. If those
Speaker 2: videos were ever made, public.
Speaker 3: Right, here's the issue. I guess that they're trying.
Speaker 1: To to raise the defenses. She did testify earlier in
Speaker 1: the week that her first freak off was in the
Speaker 1: first year of their relationship, when she was twenty two,
Speaker 1: that it made her feel dirty and confused.
Speaker 4: That's what she testified.
Speaker 1: But now it's showing that subsequently she was saying I'm
Speaker 1: down for the freakoff, I'm ready whenever. But again you
Speaker 1: have to put into account, like you mentioned, the imbalance
Speaker 1: of power there, that she was probably scared. Who knows
Speaker 1: why she wrote I'm down. Maybe she thought she had
Speaker 1: to write that.
Speaker 4: You don't know.
Speaker 2: And she's one of expected three women to testify about
Speaker 2: these things, about the stuff that went on in these
Speaker 2: freak offs, and obviously she is the key witness because
Speaker 2: of her relationship with Sean Combs for ten years.
Speaker 1: It's not just that there's a lot of intimate text
Speaker 1: messages that we will not get into. If you want
Speaker 1: to read about it, read about it, but really probably
Speaker 1: very hard to listen to.
Speaker 2: What if you're her husband. That's the thing that I've
Speaker 2: been kind of stuck on. I have mentioned earlier that
Speaker 2: the judge had to allow the husband to watch the
Speaker 2: testimony because of the possibility that he has called as
Speaker 2: a witness by the defense. Later on, Cassie says that
Speaker 2: Shawn Combs raped her in twenty eighteen while she was
Speaker 2: dating the guy who was now her husband, who was
Speaker 2: now the father of her children, and he allegedly sent
Speaker 2: a text message to Sean Combs threatening to beat the
Speaker 2: f out of him for what happened.
Speaker 4: To cass surprise, it was just a text message. How
Speaker 4: do you get close to a guy like that?
Speaker 3: That's a good point, It's a very good point. Excellent.
Speaker 4: They are right now in a lunch break back in
Speaker 4: New York.
Speaker 2: They say the testimonies can resume, probably close to the
Speaker 2: top of the hour.
Speaker 4: So as these details come in, we'll.
Speaker 1: Definitely bring to all right, And a mother has been
Speaker 1: arrested in Texas this week for allegedly buying weapons for
Speaker 1: her son's planned attack at a middle school for his
Speaker 1: mass violence plan.
Speaker 4: We'll talk about what we know when we come back.
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Speaker 1: Supreme Court hearing arguments connected with Trump's order to end
Speaker 1: birthright citizenship case isn't directly about constitutionality of the order,
Speaker 1: but the scope with which lower courts can issue nationwide injunctions.
Speaker 1: Trump's order to end birthright citizenship, generally accepted as the
Speaker 1: law underneath the fourteenth Amendment, drew immediate lawsuits.
Speaker 4: Three lower courts have.
Speaker 1: Issued injunctions, So now it's up to the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: to decide if the lower courts really have any kind
Speaker 1: of authority like that.
Speaker 2: President Trump did say he was not surprised that President
Speaker 2: Vladimir Putin of Russia was a no show for the
Speaker 2: peace talks with Ukraine in Turkey. He told reporters, I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was possible for Putin to go if
Speaker 2: I'm not there. Secretary of State Marco Rubio is in
Speaker 2: Turkey for meetings with NATO counterparts. The Special Envoy, Trump's
Speaker 2: Special Envoy, Steve Whitcoff, is also in Istanbul tomorrow for
Speaker 2: what they say will still possibly be some talks on peace.
Speaker 1: Ashley Pardo is thirty three. She was arrested this week
Speaker 1: in San Antonio. They say she bought Ammo and tactical
Speaker 1: gear to assist in her son's attack on his middle school.
Speaker 2: This woman, it's not a surprise what happened to this
Speaker 2: kid based on this woman's own discussions with police.
Speaker 4: Well it's not just this woman.
Speaker 1: I have questions about the school as well.
Speaker 2: Back in January, the boy was first contacted in reference
Speaker 2: to drawings of the local school that he attended. The
Speaker 2: drawings included a map of the school, something called a
Speaker 2: suicide route that he had written, and then the name
Speaker 2: of the school written beside a rifle. School officials at
Speaker 2: the time talked to him and he admitted that he
Speaker 2: had a fascination with past mass shooters.
Speaker 3: So that's a problem right away, right away.
Speaker 1: Red flag in April, So January, February, March, April, the
Speaker 1: sun is now found researching the two nineteen christ Church
Speaker 1: mosque shooting in New Zealand, that one killed fifty one people.
Speaker 1: He's researching that on a school issued computer. He was
Speaker 1: suspended later that day, and that day he attempted suicide
Speaker 1: with a straight razor, caused a damage that required over
Speaker 1: one hundred stitches. And so he goes he's sent to
Speaker 1: an ultra hospital. Right, no, no, no, no, the alternative school.
Speaker 1: Oh until May. His mom, sorry, his grandma. He'd been
Speaker 1: staying with grandma every once in a while. Tag to
Speaker 1: police after she found her grandson hitting a live bullet
Speaker 1: with a hammer, much like you might see Wiley Coyote
Speaker 1: doing in a cartoon. He told his grandma that he
Speaker 1: received the bullet from Mom and that she had guns
Speaker 1: and AMMO at her house. Grandma told police that Mom
Speaker 1: had been taking the boy to a local surplus store
Speaker 1: and bought him AMMO, a tactical vest, black helmet, various
Speaker 1: army clothing, and on Monday, right before Mom was finally arrested,
Speaker 1: the boy told grandma he was going to be famous.
Speaker 1: Mom picks him up takes them to school. Grandma goes
Speaker 1: into the kid's bedroom and she finds all of these
Speaker 1: magazines loaded with live AMMO, pistol magazines loaded with live
Speaker 1: AMMO as well.
Speaker 4: Well, don't forget the improvised explosive device. I won't.
Speaker 1: It was a firework mortar style wrapped in duct tape.
Speaker 1: It had the words on it for Brenton Terrant, that
Speaker 1: was the shooter in that twenty nineteen Mosk attack.
Speaker 2: Along with the weapons in the kid's room, grandma found
Speaker 2: a handwritten note that referred to other mass shootings. Mass
Speaker 2: shooting suspects had a list of the numbers of victims
Speaker 2: in each of the incidents.
Speaker 1: Now, Mom's obviously a monster and an own mental health
Speaker 1: episode herself. But here's what I don't understand about why
Speaker 1: the school didn't intervene. Good thing, grandma called police. But
Speaker 1: why didn't the school intervene? Because Mom had been made
Speaker 1: aware of the threats by her son and at one
Speaker 1: point expressed to the school her support of his violent
Speaker 1: expressions and drawings. She said she did not feel concerned.
Speaker 4: For his behavior.
Speaker 2: Now, what did this kid have to do to get
Speaker 2: mom to buy the equipment at the store, the gear
Speaker 2: and ammunition just baby sit his younger siblings.
Speaker 1: Now, if your kids drawing pictures of suicide routes and
Speaker 1: rifles leading from school, and you know, the school brings
Speaker 1: that attention to the mom, and the mom it's like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: I'm not worried about it. And have you ever seen
Speaker 3: this place? Right exactly? That's a problem.
Speaker 1: You know, it's one thing at the school's overreacting and
Speaker 1: the parents are brought in and you're like, I understand
Speaker 1: why you would think this.
Speaker 4: I know my kid, I've got this. Don't worry.
Speaker 1: This won't ever happen. Again what have you. But that
Speaker 1: wasn't her reaction. That was like, yeah, I get it.
Speaker 1: This place sucks.
Speaker 4: Mom was released on bond.
Speaker 3: Also very troubling.
Speaker 2: I don't know how necessarily it works. I know, very thankfully.
Speaker 2: I don't know the bail and the bond system the
Speaker 2: way it's supposed. She was released on a bond of
Speaker 2: seventy five thousand dollars. Supposed to be in court for
Speaker 2: a pre indictment hearing on July seventeenth.
Speaker 4: This is free until mid July.
Speaker 2: I mean, she does have other kids, but grandma is
Speaker 2: obviously capable of caring for at least some of them,
Speaker 2: at least some of the time.
Speaker 4: So that story out of Texas, this is just insane.
Speaker 1: The La City Council's laying off a bunch of city workers,
Speaker 1: but it says to local businesses, you got to pay
Speaker 1: your people more.
Speaker 4: How does that work? Because that's what the.
Speaker 1: La City Council is telling businesses that work in tourism.
Speaker 3: You've got to pay your people more. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to pay your people more.
Speaker 4: That's what happens when you legislate with feelings in that line.
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