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<v Speaker 1>Good evening everybody, and welcome to another edition of The

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night Live. I am your host, Jacob Mook the

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night. We're gonna be talking about some news stories

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<v Speaker 1>right now. We're gonna start off in America. Then we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go into some kind of America kind of foreign

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<v Speaker 1>policy things. Then we're gonna bring up a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>foreign nations with some things going on. A lot of stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff going on. Uh yeah, I see

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<v Speaker 1>it's Onny. You're traveling right now and didn't have anything prepped. Dope.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, dude. I'm just glad that you're with us

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<v Speaker 1>this evening again. If you anybody here has anything they

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<v Speaker 1>would like to add into the conversation, please send it

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<v Speaker 1>into the chat. Our homegirl, Claire, has already sent one

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<v Speaker 1>article in that I am going to pull up here

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<v Speaker 1>in a bit. But uh, all right, let's just go

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<v Speaker 1>in and get right into it. Let's start off. So

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<v Speaker 1>starting off here, the Senate has rejected funding for a

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<v Speaker 1>bill with no end insight of government shutdown. This is

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<v Speaker 1>from CNBC. Listen, I understand that some of the new

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<v Speaker 1>sources that I pull up are very liberally based or

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<v Speaker 1>very conservatively based. It doesn't matter. The reason why I

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<v Speaker 1>pull these up and why I give the distinction of

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<v Speaker 1>where this source is coming from is that everybody understands

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of bias we're going into before we start reading.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it's worth noting that, yes, we must

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<v Speaker 1>look at what CNN is saying about things, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as what Fox is saying about things, as well as

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<v Speaker 1>what Al Jazeera is saying, as well as what the

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<v Speaker 1>BBC is saying it. We have to take in all

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<v Speaker 1>of these things to try to attribute it all to

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<v Speaker 1>get a better picture of the whole schematic here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's get into it here. Senate rejects funding bill

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<v Speaker 1>with no end insight of government shutdown. This was actually

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<v Speaker 1>published today. The government shutdown entered its third week with

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<v Speaker 1>no viable deal to resolve it. The Senate for the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth time rejected duel stop and go funding stop gap

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<v Speaker 1>rather stop gap funding bills, as Republicans and Democrats continue

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<v Speaker 1>to argue for dueling measures. Democrats insist that funding deal

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<v Speaker 1>in include extending in it's Affordable care AC subsidies, which

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<v Speaker 1>are set to expire at the end of twenty twenty five,

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<v Speaker 1>So all right. A lot of people know that the

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<v Speaker 1>government is shut down right now. Not many people know

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<v Speaker 1>the nuances as to why it is shut down right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've said this joke before, but I do actually

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<v Speaker 1>stand on this. At this point, we might as well

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<v Speaker 1>just make it a federal holiday. Y up, here comes

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<v Speaker 1>the yearly shutdown. Yeah, and it doesn't matter who's in office.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a thing that has gone on multiple administrations.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. Yes, right now it's being blamed on Trump

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<v Speaker 1>because it's Trump, and before that it was being blamed

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<v Speaker 1>on Biden because it's Biden, and like the president has

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<v Speaker 1>a hand in it. Don't get me wrong, But this

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<v Speaker 1>really and truly is a Senate thing. It's not an

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<v Speaker 1>executive branch thing. But let's get into the article. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about the votes and what is going on

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<v Speaker 1>here as to the whys for the government shut down,

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<v Speaker 1>and possibly can we get it over with? Can we

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<v Speaker 1>move forward here? Yeah, let's just read in here. The

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<v Speaker 1>government shut down stretch into its third week on Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>as Republican and Democrat senators continued to dig in their

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<v Speaker 1>heels on dueling stop gap funding proposals. The Senate on

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<v Speaker 1>Wednesday for the ninth time rejected a gop led short

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<v Speaker 1>term funding resolution in a fifty one to forty four vote.

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<v Speaker 1>The Senate once again did not approve a stop gap bill,

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<v Speaker 1>in which Republicans insist on a clean continuing resolution that

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<v Speaker 1>would provide funding to reopen the government until at least

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<v Speaker 1>November twenty first. Democrats want any funding bill to extend

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<v Speaker 1>and Enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies that are set to

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<v Speaker 1>run out at the end of this year. That and

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<v Speaker 1>other provisions in the Democratic bill would cost an estimated

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<v Speaker 1>one trillion dollars. Wednesday's vote occurred days after the Trump

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<v Speaker 1>administration said in a court filing that more than four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand federal employees received notifications that they were being laid off. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's four thousand federal employees. And they don't really give

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of distinctions as to, you know, the type

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<v Speaker 1>of federal employees this is. But even still, four thousand

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<v Speaker 1>jobs is not that massive of a hit. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's cutting off entire, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>branches of the government here. Is he shutting down entire

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<v Speaker 1>agencies with this or was it kind of trimming the

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<v Speaker 1>fat on a couple of different places. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. But continuing on here, it says the

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<v Speaker 1>White House Budget Director Russell Vaux said Wednesday that he

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<v Speaker 1>could be more than ten thousand or there could be

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<v Speaker 1>more than ten thousand job cuts. But shortly after Voue

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<v Speaker 1>made that remark, a federal judge in San Francisco temporarily

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<v Speaker 1>blocked the Trump administration from firing federal workers amid the shutdown. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>firing and being laid off for two different things. In essence,

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<v Speaker 1>they have the same results, Like, yes, the person who

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<v Speaker 1>has the job no longer can punch the clock anymore. However,

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<v Speaker 1>a firing means that they're getting rid of this person

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<v Speaker 1>and the position is now open and they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>hire somebody else. Laid off means that they are shutting

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<v Speaker 1>down the need for that position and they're not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be hiring anybody new. Anybody's clear here. Firing and

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<v Speaker 1>laying off, although they do have the same effect for

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<v Speaker 1>the individual employee, there is different ramifications to that on

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<v Speaker 1>the back end, So anyway, these are layoffs, not firings. Anyway, continuing,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump administration officials blame the so called reductions in force

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<v Speaker 1>on Senate Democrat's refusal to vote for the Republican funding proposal.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we go with the finger pointing, in the

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<v Speaker 1>name calling, and the these said that, she said that,

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<v Speaker 1>he said all the stuff Democrats are dug in. Fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>days into a government shutdown, Democrats show no sign that

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<v Speaker 1>they're ready for it to end. Senate Majority Leader John Thune,

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<v Speaker 1>a Republican from South Dakota, said earlier on Wednesday on

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<v Speaker 1>the chamber floor, not even the prospect of military families

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<v Speaker 1>going without paychecks was enough for Democrats to reopen the government. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I should make a mention of this. It has been

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<v Speaker 1>understood and declared that the military are not going to

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<v Speaker 1>miss any paychecks. They're gonna get paid. They found things

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<v Speaker 1>in the budget to make sure that they're gonna get paid.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember seeing these news clips of these military members

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<v Speaker 1>in line for like food stamps and WICK. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>just everybody's clear. When I was in the military, I

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<v Speaker 1>was on WICK like that. That's the military doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>make money. You make way way less than minimum wage.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they make up for it, quote unquote because

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<v Speaker 1>you have your housing paid for and your health and

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<v Speaker 1>dental paid for, and oh you have a clothing allowance.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like five hundred dollars a year. That's not even

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<v Speaker 1>gonna replace them uniform items that you you tore up

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<v Speaker 1>over the past year. Yeah, it's it's not. Nobody joins

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<v Speaker 1>the military to get rich. I'm sorry. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>if you think that that's like your plan, then I

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<v Speaker 1>hate to break it to you. That's not how this

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna go. This being said, Yeah, when me and

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<v Speaker 1>my first wife were together and we had a baby, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we had to apply for WICK because we were that broke.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not because we had horrible spending habits. Although

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<v Speaker 1>calling us paid us paid on myself, it could have

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<v Speaker 1>been better. I could have been a little wiser with

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<v Speaker 1>my and wiser with my investments. Very true, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>also very difficult to support a family when you're getting

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<v Speaker 1>two checks a month equaling to a grand total of

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<v Speaker 1>like seven to fifty for the month, and that's your

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<v Speaker 1>entire income you get paid on the first and the fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>That seven fifty is split over two checks. Like, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just the way it is. And if you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to support a family, you're taking whatever help you can get.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I saw the news clip of the family

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<v Speaker 1>members and these these military members online to get food

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<v Speaker 1>stamps and wick. I got to tell you, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really shaken by this. Our military should never have to

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<v Speaker 1>live like this. First of all, I agree. Second off,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not nuanced. This is not because of the

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<v Speaker 1>government shutdown. This is the way it's been four years

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<v Speaker 1>from this was twenty eleven when I was getting my

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<v Speaker 1>wick shit. So it whatever. Anyway, continuing on send it.

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<v Speaker 1>Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, everybody knows him, the Democrat from

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<v Speaker 1>New York, counter thuns argument, saying that the government has

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<v Speaker 1>been shut since October first because Republicans quote refused to

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<v Speaker 1>work with Democrats in a serious way to fix the

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<v Speaker 1>health care crisis looming over the American people. As we speak,

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<v Speaker 1>families are receiving letters for their new health insurance rates

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<v Speaker 1>and more states more states are opening their window shopping

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<v Speaker 1>period for what health insurance will look like next year.

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<v Speaker 1>Direct quote from Schumer. With open enrollment around the corner,

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans cannot continue to kick this can down the road.

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<v Speaker 1>It's happening now. The healthcare crisis is now, he continued.

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<v Speaker 1>Thune and other Republicans have said that they are willing

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss the questioning are the question of extending ACA

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<v Speaker 1>enhanced tax credits after a short term funding is approved.

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<v Speaker 1>We need five more Democrats to say enough is enough

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<v Speaker 1>to put the American people ahead of the far left

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<v Speaker 1>and support this clean, non partisan continuing resolution sitting right

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<v Speaker 1>there at the Senate desk, ready to be picked up

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<v Speaker 1>and passed today. That was Thune that said this. On Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump issued a presidential memorandum directing Defense Secretary Pete

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<v Speaker 1>Hexeth to use remaining congressional funds to keep paying active

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<v Speaker 1>duty military personnel. Once again, they had the funding, They

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<v Speaker 1>have the money. It's not an issue. And if I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, even when I was in there was government

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<v Speaker 1>shutdowns and I was stationed in Washington, DC, we still

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<v Speaker 1>got paid. There was never a risk of us not

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<v Speaker 1>getting paid. Although we we found some obscure thing within

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<v Speaker 1>our contracts to where if we were to go I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was like more than thirty one days without

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<v Speaker 1>receiving any compensation for our time. There was some way

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<v Speaker 1>that you could file some paperwork and your contract could

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<v Speaker 1>be null and void. That being said, it wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 1>really worked out that way anyway. But we were a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dumb nineteen year olds, and we thought we

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<v Speaker 1>knew how the system worked, you know, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>type that being said. Yes, the military is still getting paid,

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<v Speaker 1>the government shutdown is still on, and uh yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>no end in sight on this. We're gonna listen in now.

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<v Speaker 1>This was dropped four hours ago, and this is a

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Johnson speaking on the press briefing on day fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>of the government shut down. This is a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>days ago, but it just dropped a few hours ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and let's just hear what he's got to say on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks a speaker.

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<v Speaker 3>OMB put out memos saying that they're going to batten

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<v Speaker 1>And ride out the shutdown.

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<v Speaker 3>But as you pointed out, they're gonna pay the troops

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<v Speaker 3>as well as they.

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<v Speaker 1>Said pay law enforcement.

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<v Speaker 3>Should law enforcement include Capitol police who protect you your family,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, mister Scalise, the whip as well as the

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<v Speaker 3>Capitol building in gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we've always stood with Capitol police and law enforcement,

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<v Speaker 4>and we've shown that in word and deeds. And I

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<v Speaker 4>can tell you that I was with the President for

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<v Speaker 4>a couple of hours in the Oval Office last night.

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<v Speaker 4>I spoke with the thrust vote in the Rose Garden

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<v Speaker 4>before they Charlie hurt service.

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<v Speaker 2>They are.

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<v Speaker 4>So what they're doing is they're having a triosh federal spending.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like they resolved at least that one portion

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<v Speaker 1>time to bring up this guy. So local twelve father

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<v Speaker 1>So this guy basically took justice into his own hands.

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<v Speaker 1>Rightfully so rightfully so and I stand on that. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>A father accused of killing his fourteen year old daughter's

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<v Speaker 1>years old, announced his campaign for Lenote County Sheriff on

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<v Speaker 5>Hello, Loano, my name is Spencer. Many of you know

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<v Speaker 5>my story. I'm the father who acted to protect his

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<v Speaker 5>announcing my candioncy to run for Lonoke County Sheriff. This

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<v Speaker 5>Loanoa County for every family. I'm Aaron Spencer and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Get this man elected. Let's go, dude, I love that,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, Let's go. That just kind of goes over

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<v Speaker 1>Spencer was arrested in October of last year, twenty twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>it was already understood. Spencer then allegedly allegedly shot and

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<v Speaker 1>rows the child's mother had thought that Fosler might be

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<v Speaker 1>possibly or if possible, six to nine felonies, and her

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<v Speaker 1>daughter was the only witness. Wow Sheriff John Stally noted

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<v Speaker 1>that Spencer's case would be up to the Loanoke, Lona,

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<v Speaker 1>I support this man. We need to get him in office,

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<v Speaker 1>like now, get him there faster, Arkansas. Let's go man. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So at least there's a little bit of good news

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<v Speaker 1>Now swapping over, let's talk more federal things again from

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<v Speaker 1>NBC News. US will neither be commanded nor controlled by China,

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<v Speaker 1>the sense said as trade standof deepens. So for anybody

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<v Speaker 1>exactly gone away. It subsided for a bit. People found

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<v Speaker 1>Trump just they currently have a I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>It's not exactly true. It's not exactly true. Let's read

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<v Speaker 1>US trade representative Genie Amison Jamieson, Well, all right, Jamieson

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<v Speaker 1>and it absolutely is China was very strategic in that

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<v Speaker 1>to the restrictions. This is China versus the world, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>We and our allies will neither be commanded nor controlled.

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<v Speaker 6>Today marks day fifteen of the government shut down, as

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<v Speaker 7>And this is all coming, of course, as trade talks

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<v Speaker 1>Made no mistake.

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<v Speaker 8>Those words from Treasury Secretary Scott Bessend come after China's

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<v Speaker 9>China's announcement is nothing more than a global supply chain

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<v Speaker 8>In response to China's move, President Trump threatened massive tariffs

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta feel like we're a scapegoat here. We're you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we are hanging absolutely.

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<v Speaker 8>This trade tug of war coming at a difficult time

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<v Speaker 8>for the US, the government heading into week three of

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<v Speaker 8>a shutdown with no end in sight, both sides pointing

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<v Speaker 8>fingers at each other, and.

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<v Speaker 10>All those Americans living in uncertainty, Well, there's going to

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<v Speaker 10>have to wait until Democrats far left base is satisfied.

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<v Speaker 11>With open enrollment around the corner, Republicans cannot continue to

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<v Speaker 11>kick this can down the road. It's happening now. The

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<v Speaker 11>healthcare crisis is now in Washington.

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<v Speaker 8>Julie Serkin, NBC News.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so that was kind of a good recap

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<v Speaker 1>on all the things we've discussed thus far. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>move into another thing that Trump is getting involved with. Venezuela. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going there. Venezuela allegedly broke up an extremist false

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<v Speaker 1>flag attempt that was about to go down on the

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<v Speaker 1>US embassy there. Now, everybody knows that I am a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiracy theorist. I love a good conspiracy. There have been

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<v Speaker 1>tons of false flag attacks that have happened in our lifetime.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not hard to find them. This being said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is an actual false flag that

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<v Speaker 1>they foiled and they're just bringing it up now to

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<v Speaker 1>try to save face, or if this is completely fabricated.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, But let's read into it now because

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<v Speaker 1>this ties into Trump getting ready. He just gave the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA authorization to send agents into Venezuela. Let's get into it,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we. Let's start off here. Venezuela denounces alleged extremists

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<v Speaker 1>plan to attack shuttered US embassy complex. The embassy, which

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<v Speaker 1>is closed, maintains a staff responsible for security and maintenance,

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<v Speaker 1>despite the rupture of diplomatic relations with Venezuelan President Nicholas

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<v Speaker 1>Maduro's government in twenty nineteen. Let's get into it here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from Caracas, Venezuela. Venezuela warned Monday of an

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<v Speaker 1>alleged plan by extremists to attack the shuttered US embassy

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<v Speaker 1>complex in Caracas with explosives, coming as bilateral tension simmer

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<v Speaker 1>over Washington's military deployment in the Caribbean. Jorge Rodriguez Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I said that right. Jorge Rodriguez, head of the National

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<v Speaker 1>Assembly and of Venezuela's delegation for dialogue with the US SEDNA,

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<v Speaker 1>statement that though through three different channels, the United States

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<v Speaker 1>has been warned of a serious threat from far right

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<v Speaker 1>wing groups posing as followers of Maduro through a false

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<v Speaker 1>flag operation prepared Yeah, through a false flag operation prepared

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<v Speaker 1>by extremist sectors of the local rights. There are attempts

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<v Speaker 1>to plant lethal explosives at the US embassy in Caracas.

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<v Speaker 1>The US State Department did not immediately respond to a

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<v Speaker 1>request for comment. Shocker, I know the embassy, which is

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<v Speaker 1>currently closed, maintains a staff responsible for security and maintenance

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<v Speaker 1>of the premises. Despite the rupture of diplomatic relations in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen, At the same time, we have reinforced security

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<v Speaker 1>measures at that diplomatic site, which our government respects and protects,

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<v Speaker 1>said Rodriguez, a close ally of Maduro who serves as

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<v Speaker 1>President of the National Assembly. He said that a European

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<v Speaker 1>embassy had been informed in order to act as a

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<v Speaker 1>liaison to communicate the situation. The large embassy compound has

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<v Speaker 1>been guarded since its closure by patrols conducted by Venezuelan

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<v Speaker 1>police in the surrounding area. During the first term, President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump broke ties with Maduro and recognize an opposition leader

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<v Speaker 1>as Venezuela's a legitimate ruler in a failed attempt to

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<v Speaker 1>oust the leftist leader. As part of the diplomatic break,

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<v Speaker 1>the State Department suspended operations in its Caracas embassy this

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<v Speaker 1>is in March of twenty nineteen, and evacuated all diplomats,

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<v Speaker 1>fearing a takeover of the Hilltop complex in the southeast

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<v Speaker 1>of the capitol. The alert came as Venezuela had repeatedly

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<v Speaker 1>denounced what it calls a US threat over the deployment

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<v Speaker 1>of warships in the Caribbean, which Washington says is aimed

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<v Speaker 1>at combating Latin American drug cartels. Trump accused of Maduro

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<v Speaker 1>of being one of the world's most major drug traffickers,

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<v Speaker 1>and announced in early August that the reward for his

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<v Speaker 1>capture would be doubled to fifty million dollars US. Maduro

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<v Speaker 1>in turn accused of the United States of fabricating that

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<v Speaker 1>narrative to try to force him from office. On Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>US State Secretary, I'm sorry, US Defense Secretary. They keep

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<v Speaker 1>calling him that it's the US War secretary. People. The

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of War Pete Hegseth announced what would be the

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<v Speaker 1>fourth strike on a small vessel in the Caribbean since

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<v Speaker 1>the arrival of the US ships. The United States claimed

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<v Speaker 1>the vessels traffic drugs and that their crews are Narco terrorists,

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<v Speaker 1>as was the case with the four people killed Friday.

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<v Speaker 1>According to heg Seth, Maduro has described the US naval

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<v Speaker 1>deployment as a threat to the sovereignty of the South

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<v Speaker 1>American country. The US government has given no indication that

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<v Speaker 1>it plans to ground incursions with the more than four

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<v Speaker 1>thousand troops stationed in the area. All right, so that

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<v Speaker 1>was from the Associated Press, And yes, of course they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have a narrative spin it one way or another.

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<v Speaker 1>But apparently they're saying that there was a false flag thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We got to talk about this. Cool, cool, cool. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>in response to all of this, Trump is authorizing the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA to go into Venezuela. Let's listen in straight from the.

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<v Speaker 12>Horse's mouth, but we do begin with the Trump administration's

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<v Speaker 12>move to give the CIA authority to conduct operations in Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 12>For more on, let's let's bring in CBS News White

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<v Speaker 12>House reporter Olivia Ronaldi. Olivia, thanks for joining us. During

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<v Speaker 12>today's press conference, President Trump was asked about why he

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<v Speaker 12>authorized the CIA to go into Venezuela. What did he

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<v Speaker 12>say in response to that?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, Nancy, he was asked that by our own ed Keith,

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<v Speaker 13>this was breaking news heading into the Oival office, that

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<v Speaker 13>Ed was able to ask the President why he gave

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<v Speaker 13>that authorization to have the CIA go into Venezuela. Take

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<v Speaker 13>a listen to what the President said here, Why did.

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<v Speaker 7>You authorize the CIA to go into Venezuela, and is

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<v Speaker 7>there more information you can share about these strikes on

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<v Speaker 7>the alleged well, I can't.

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<v Speaker 14>I authorized speak for two reasons really. Number one, they

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<v Speaker 14>have emptied their prisons into the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 14>They came in through the well, they came in through

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<v Speaker 14>the border. They came in because we had an open

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<v Speaker 14>border policy. The other thing of drugs, We have a

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<v Speaker 14>lot of drugs coming in from Venezuela, and a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of the Venezuelan drugs come in through the sea, so

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<v Speaker 14>you get to see that, but we're going to stop

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<v Speaker 14>them by land.

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<v Speaker 13>Also, now, Nancy, this is in addition to those strikes

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<v Speaker 13>that you mentioned earlier that the US is conducting off

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<v Speaker 13>of the coast of Venezuela targeting five votes that they

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<v Speaker 13>say are carrying drugs into the US and have killed

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<v Speaker 13>about twenty seven people through those strikes. The President also

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<v Speaker 13>said he's looking to do strikes on Venezuela's territory. Now

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<v Speaker 13>that would be a significant, significant escalation.

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<v Speaker 12>Absolutely, Olivia and ed our colleague. They're also asked to

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<v Speaker 12>us about some concerns among Republican and Democratic lawmakers on

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<v Speaker 12>information they've received about those strikes. What did they say

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<v Speaker 12>and what was the president's response there?

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<v Speaker 13>Well, they say they're not getting enough justification for why

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<v Speaker 13>these strikes are necessary and who they are targeting. Last month,

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<v Speaker 13>the Trump administration sent a letter to Congress saying they're

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<v Speaker 13>an armed conflict with combatants armed combatants, which is the

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<v Speaker 13>same justification they used for attacking al Qaeda in the

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<v Speaker 13>early two thousands. Now they're saying that's the justification they're

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<v Speaker 13>using for these strikes in Venezuela. But we've heard from

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<v Speaker 13>lawmakers who say there's just not enough information that they're

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<v Speaker 13>being given as to these strikes, who's being targeted, if

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<v Speaker 13>they're successful at all, and why this needs further escalation,

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<v Speaker 13>if there are plans to have a covert CIA operation

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<v Speaker 13>in Venezuelan territory and strikes on their.

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<v Speaker 12>Land, Olivia Ronaldi joining us there from.

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<v Speaker 1>D okay, So the CIA will now be having a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit of presidence in Venezuela, which, to the shock

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<v Speaker 1>of no one, is not the first time that the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA has been operating inside of Venezuela. But you know, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>here we are. Now, let's talk about this authorization a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit further. Trump's this is from the Guardian. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>says he authorized covert CIA operations in Venezuela. Move marks

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<v Speaker 1>escalation in maduro pressure campaign. As president says us mulling

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<v Speaker 1>strikes on Venezuelan territory, and I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 1>Striking a boat and open water, there is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of lit bill leeway given right to say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if this boat is confirmed to be trafficking drugs, and

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<v Speaker 1>the president of Venezuela saying that they are not trafficking

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<v Speaker 1>drugs from Venezuela, there is a little bit of some

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<v Speaker 1>some leniency as far as the whole benefit of the

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<v Speaker 1>doubt goes here. Even though it's understood that these boats

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<v Speaker 1>are leaving Venezuela and satellites are tracking them in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole nine Maduro can at least claim a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of an immininity on that. Right now, we were to

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<v Speaker 1>start striking the Venezuelan land itself, we now enter into

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<v Speaker 1>a whole different kind of conversation. But let's dive in here.

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump said on Wednesday that he had authorized the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA to carry out covert operations in Venezuela, marking a

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<v Speaker 1>sharp escalation in his administration's pressure campaign against Maduro's regime.

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<v Speaker 1>Trump further suggested that he was considering strikes on Venezuelan territory,

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<v Speaker 1>a dramatic step that could go beyond a series of

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<v Speaker 1>recent lethal attacks on boats in the Caribbean, which Democrats

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<v Speaker 1>and United Nations experts have FORCI forcibly condemned as unlawful.

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<v Speaker 1>The president remarks about the CIA confirmed an earlier story

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<v Speaker 1>from The New York Times, which they reported on a

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<v Speaker 1>classified directive about a secretive operation in Venezuela. Trump said

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<v Speaker 1>his administration was looking at land as it considers striking

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<v Speaker 1>continued strikes on the region, but declined to answer when

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<v Speaker 1>pressed on whether the CIA had authority to execute Maduro. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna I'm gonna throw this out. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know this for a fact. I've got no source to

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<v Speaker 1>back the claim that I'm about to make. But I

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<v Speaker 1>just I have a weird, sneaking suspicion. Call it a

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<v Speaker 1>conspiratorial hunch if you will, that Maduro will be found

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<v Speaker 1>dead sometime in the next six months to a year.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that for a fact. But if we

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<v Speaker 1>know for sure that the CIA is gonna start sending

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<v Speaker 1>operatives to Venezuela proper and there is already a fifty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar bounty on this dude's head. I'm just I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not saying, but I'm just saying, Okay, to quote Canas Owens,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. I think the Venezuelan is the Venezuelans

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<v Speaker 1>is feeling the heat, the president added. Trump justified the

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<v Speaker 1>CIA's intervention by repeating his claims that Venezuela had been

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<v Speaker 1>releasing prisoners into the United States. We just heard all

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<v Speaker 1>of that, echoing baseless assertions that became one of his

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<v Speaker 1>common refrains on the Capitol trail last year or the

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<v Speaker 1>campaign trail last year. Rather, he also claimed that Venezuela

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<v Speaker 1>was bringing large volumes of drugs into the US by sea. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>that's not even a source to debate about. That's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understood fact at this time. But I'm not saying

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<v Speaker 1>before I even say that the drug cartels that are

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<v Speaker 1>operating and flooding America with drugs are not all Venezuelan

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<v Speaker 1>based at all. There are some trend De Raua, for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>is a Venezuelan based drug cartel. That is a fact,

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<v Speaker 1>and from the prisoners that they have taken from trende Arawa.

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<v Speaker 1>They all say that they they are answering to Maduro.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever they ask who's their leader, who's the head of

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<v Speaker 1>this cartel, all of them say that it is Maduro. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>could that be just your you know, your local street

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<v Speaker 1>punk drug pusher that's just throwing out a name. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything to back that claim? I get it, I

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<v Speaker 1>understand this. That being said, no one from the Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>drug cartels are claiming that the Mexican president is the

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<v Speaker 1>leader of their organization. That's actually kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>crazy thing. Most cartel leaders would say they'll either play silence,

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<v Speaker 1>or they'll give some name of one of their higher

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<v Speaker 1>ups that's already a known about figure that's already on

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<v Speaker 1>the CIA watch list. Kind of thing. For them to

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<v Speaker 1>name the president of the country that they came from

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<v Speaker 1>as the head of their drug operation is pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying that should be a justification for an

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<v Speaker 1>all out war against Venezuela. I'm just throwing it out

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<v Speaker 1>as a weird thing. But moving on here. Experts have

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<v Speaker 1>repeatedly cast doubts on some of the President's claims about

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<v Speaker 1>the threats Venezuelan's pose in the US. Earlier this month,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration declared drug cartels to be an unlawful

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<v Speaker 1>or unlawful combatants, saying the US is now an armed

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<v Speaker 1>conflict with them, justifying the military action as a necessary

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<v Speaker 1>escalation to stem the flow of drugs. The move has

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<v Speaker 1>spurred anger in Congress from members of both major political

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<v Speaker 1>parties that Trump was effectively committing an active war without

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<v Speaker 1>seeking congressional authorization. I mean, okay, yeah, he declared war

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<v Speaker 1>on the drug cartels. You don't how are you gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go through the Congress to get approval to declare war

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<v Speaker 1>on this. It's very similar to declaring war on the Taliban.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't do that. So we didn't declare war. We

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<v Speaker 1>had operations, right, That's how they didn't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>through Congress to have military operations. He's not gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to go through Congress to have some sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>military operation and to send in the Marines, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the whole point of them. So yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>On Wednesday, Gene Shaheen, the ranking Democratic senator on the

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<v Speaker 1>Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said while she supports cracking down

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<v Speaker 1>on trafficking, the administration has gone too far in what way?

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<v Speaker 1>In what way, is this too far? I don't see it,

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<v Speaker 1>but okay. The Trump administration's authorization of covert CIA action,

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<v Speaker 1>conducting lethal strikes on boats and hinting at land operations

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<v Speaker 1>in Venezuela slides the United States closer to outright conflict

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<v Speaker 1>with no transparency, oversight, or apparent guardrails. The American people

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<v Speaker 1>deserve to know if the administration is leading the US

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<v Speaker 1>into another conflict, putting service members at risk, or pursuing

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<v Speaker 1>a regime change operation. Again, they nobody joins the military

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<v Speaker 1>to not get put in risk anyway, kep Moving on,

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<v Speaker 1>Maduro decried Trump's comments in what he called coup de

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<v Speaker 1>tah orchestrated by the CIA. Shortly after, Trump also said

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<v Speaker 1>that he was considering strikes against the Venezuelan carts on land.

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<v Speaker 1>No to war in the Caribbean. No to regime change,

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<v Speaker 1>No to coudata orchestrated by the CIA. That was from

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<v Speaker 1>Maduro direct quote. The leftist leaders said in an address

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<v Speaker 1>to a committee set up after Washington deployed warships in

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<v Speaker 1>the Caribbean for what it said was an anti drug operation.

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<v Speaker 1>At least twenty seven people have been killed in the

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<v Speaker 1>US Caribbean attacks so far. After another boat was struck,

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<v Speaker 1>Maduro on Wednesday ordered military exercises in the country's biggest

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<v Speaker 1>shanty towns and said he was mobilizing the military, police

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<v Speaker 1>and a civilian militia to defend Venezuela's mountains, coasts, schools, hospitals, factories,

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<v Speaker 1>and markets. Trump has claimed they are Narco terrorists with

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<v Speaker 1>providing evidence, without providing evidence. Rather, he has also said

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<v Speaker 1>the strikes were targeting members of the Trende Raval gang,

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<v Speaker 1>claims that the White House has not supported with concrete proof.

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<v Speaker 1>You and experts said in September that the strikes on

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<v Speaker 1>vessels violated international law, and a Democratic congressman said over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend that the attacks were illegal killings and wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>stand up in a single court of law. Again, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm if this boat that was struck was moving drugs

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<v Speaker 1>and had members on it that were members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Trende ar Raval cartel, how I must be missing the

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<v Speaker 1>gap here. He just declared war on cartels. If this

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<v Speaker 1>boat was cartel affiliated, that's that's kind of how wars

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<v Speaker 1>go down. I don't know. Moving on the Trump administration,

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<v Speaker 1>earlier this year cited unsubstantiated claims of affiliation with the Trende,

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<v Speaker 1>a rival gang to fast track deportations of Venezuela's of

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<v Speaker 1>Venezuelans to a notorious El Salvador prison. Trump is also

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<v Speaker 1>pushed to in the temporary legal status of hundreds of

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<v Speaker 1>thousands of Venezuelans. Trump is accused Madurea of heading the

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<v Speaker 1>drug cartel, charges he denied. In August, Washington doubled a

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<v Speaker 1>bounty on his head for fifty million dollars. The Venezuelan

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<v Speaker 1>leader is widely accused of having stolen elections last year,

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<v Speaker 1>which again that's to the shock of absolutely no one,

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<v Speaker 1>that's how politics go in this region of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, so that's the latest. Be on the lookout

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<v Speaker 1>for CIA operatives to be operating inside of Venezuela. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be a thing that we have to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about here soon. I'm sure that Maduro is either going

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<v Speaker 1>to be arrested and or found dead. I could be wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but if you look at the track record of coups

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<v Speaker 1>that have taken place in South America over the last

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<v Speaker 1>fifty years, you know what, there's a YouTube video. I

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<v Speaker 1>got a quick video pulled up as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody who's curious about how many coups have taken

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<v Speaker 1>place in South America in the last fifty sixty, maybe seventy,

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<v Speaker 1>give or take years, then we look at what's about

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<v Speaker 1>to go down to Venezuela with CIA operatives being there

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<v Speaker 1>boots on the ground. You make your own assertions about

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<v Speaker 1>what you think is about to happen. But you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just play this quick little clip and maybe you'll

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<v Speaker 1>understand where I'm coming from.

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<v Speaker 15>He here's every South American country which has had its

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<v Speaker 15>government overthrown by the CIA since nineteen forty seven. Costa

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<v Speaker 15>Rica in nineteen forty eight, Guatemala nineteen fifty four, Al

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<v Speaker 15>Salvador nineteen seventy nine, Nicaragua nineteen eighty one, Panama nineteen

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<v Speaker 15>eighty nine, Paraguay nineteen fifty four, Brazil nineteen sixty four,

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<v Speaker 15>Peru nineteen sixty eight, Chile nineteen seventy three, Uruguay nineteen

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<v Speaker 15>seventy three, Argentina nineteen seventy six, and Venezuela in two

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<v Speaker 15>thousand and two. Many of these were perceived as ideologically

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<v Speaker 15>opposed to the United States, were leftist dictatorships or were

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<v Speaker 15>some combination of the two.

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<v Speaker 1>So again I don't know this for a fact. This

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<v Speaker 1>is completely speculative and all that. But man, whenever you

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<v Speaker 1>see that and you look at how the CIA is

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<v Speaker 1>moving into Venezuela right now, it just it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>the chips are falling into place. But again, I will

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<v Speaker 1>keep my finger on the pulse of this situation so

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<v Speaker 1>that we can can talk about it more in the

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<v Speaker 1>coming weeks. On the Cage to Night Live. Now let's

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<v Speaker 1>go on further. John Thune asks if he've used Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>twenty million dollar bailout for Argentina as an American first policy. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Trump is trying to give the Argentinian president a twenty

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<v Speaker 1>million dollar bailout, and of course he is getting flag

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<v Speaker 1>for that. Let's talk about it.

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<v Speaker 16>The President has discussed a life fund of twenty million

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<v Speaker 16>dollars Argentine. Do you think that's responsible, especially when giving

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<v Speaker 16>that your government shutdown and do that as an America

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<v Speaker 16>First falls.

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<v Speaker 10>You know, I think that something along the lines of

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<v Speaker 10>what he's doing has been done in the past, I

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<v Speaker 10>mean previous administrations. If they think there are reasons in

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<v Speaker 10>the interest of economic stability in areas of the world,

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<v Speaker 10>that are important to us economically those there are previous

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<v Speaker 10>administrations that have made similar decisions. In this case, my

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<v Speaker 10>understanding is it's a currency swap, and so it's a

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<v Speaker 10>it's a structured in a way that hopefully will support

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<v Speaker 10>and give some stability to their economy. And I think

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<v Speaker 10>the US has some strategic interest in that region of

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<v Speaker 10>the world. So you know, again, I think it's a

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<v Speaker 10>decision the administration is making based on precedent that past

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<v Speaker 10>administrations have used, and I hope that the Argentine economy

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<v Speaker 10>responds in a way that keeps them a stable economy

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<v Speaker 10>working in a part of the world where American needs allies.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, very very very political answer, very talking around the

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<v Speaker 1>question rather than just answering the question if this is

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<v Speaker 1>an America first policy. But let's get into it here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from USA today. Why is Trump bailing out Argentina?

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<v Speaker 1>What we know after White House visits with l Loco,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the nickname for the Argentinian president. Let's actually

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<v Speaker 1>know what they got a quick clip here. We can

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<v Speaker 1>listen in together and learn about this as a group.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 14>This man because his philosophy is correct.

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<v Speaker 17>US President Donald Trump expressed his support for Argentina's President

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<v Speaker 17>Javier Malay during their meeting at the White House Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 17>The visit comes days after the US agreed to provide

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<v Speaker 17>a major financial lifeline to the South American nation. The

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<v Speaker 17>meeting also occurred ahead of Argentina's midterm legislative elections.

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<v Speaker 14>We are going to work very much with the president.

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<v Speaker 14>We think he's going to win, he should win, and

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<v Speaker 14>if he does win, we're going to be very helpful.

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<v Speaker 14>And if he doesn't win, we're not going to waste

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<v Speaker 14>that time.

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<v Speaker 17>Trump's remarks rattled Argentine markets that had previously been buoyed

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<v Speaker 17>by the support package recently announced by US Treasury Secretary

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<v Speaker 17>Scott Bessant, the centerpiece of which is a twenty billion

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<v Speaker 17>dollar currency swap with Argentina's central bank, exchanging stable US

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<v Speaker 17>dollar for volatilpesos. Bessen said in the meeting that the

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<v Speaker 17>support package depended on the continuance of economic policies favored

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<v Speaker 17>by the Trump administration.

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<v Speaker 15>We're confident that the President's party will and the coalition.

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<v Speaker 2>Will do well in the election, and this aid is.

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<v Speaker 3>Predicated on robust policies and going back to the failed

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<v Speaker 3>Perona's policies would cause a US rethink.

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<v Speaker 17>The economic lifeline for Argentina marks an unusual move for

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<v Speaker 17>the US, particularly under an administration that has largely stayed

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<v Speaker 17>away from major foreign interventions. The White House has framed

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<v Speaker 17>the deal as a strategic effort to stabilize a key

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<v Speaker 17>regional ally, but it has drawn criticism at home, including

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<v Speaker 17>from Democratic lawmakers who have accused Trump of prioritizing foreign

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<v Speaker 17>bailouts and investor protections while the US government remains shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>And the US government has only been shut down for

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen days. But that's a talking point that they will

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<v Speaker 1>continue going on about. But let's continue here the key

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<v Speaker 1>points here. President Trump hosted the Argentine President, Javier Malay

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<v Speaker 1>at the White House after announcing a twenty billion dollar

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<v Speaker 1>bailout for Argentina. Now you also heard that it was

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<v Speaker 1>a currency swamp on the screen just a moment ago.

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<v Speaker 1>They showed that it's like a dollar forty US equals

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<v Speaker 1>like two hundred and fifty of the Argentinian I don't

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<v Speaker 1>remember if it's at Paso or what the currency was there,

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<v Speaker 1>but whatever their local currency is, and I don't it

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<v Speaker 1>basically is a bailout. Yeah, it's gonna be a currency exchange,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're going to say it's not like that, it's

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<v Speaker 1>we're getting equal back and this. Yeah, but the Argentinian

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<v Speaker 1>dollar is dropping and they're not going to get better

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. So let's just call it for what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a twenty billion dollar gift essentially, and especially interesting

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<v Speaker 1>after Trump just did all the things with those to

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<v Speaker 1>cut wasteful spending and stop sending money to so many

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<v Speaker 1>other foreign countries for useless and frivolous expenditures. That was

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<v Speaker 1>their whole big push. Now, why is it so critical

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<v Speaker 1>to him to send twenty billion US to Argentina? Who

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<v Speaker 1>if we're gonna say a strategic ally, that's another interesting

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<v Speaker 1>talking point Argentina. Yeah, I'm not saying that they're not

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<v Speaker 1>important by any means. I'm not gonna try to sound

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm an asshole in that way. But what I

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<v Speaker 1>am gonna say is that Argentina really doesn't hold much

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<v Speaker 1>strategic importance to anything in that area, unless a potential

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<v Speaker 1>military push into one of their kind of neighboring ish countries, Venezuela.

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<v Speaker 1>Possibly possibly, I don't know, but I'm just throwing it

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<v Speaker 1>out as perhaps that might be the long con or

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<v Speaker 1>the long game that he's trying to play here. Let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>Malay has often compared is often compared to Trump. He

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<v Speaker 1>has pursued an aggressive cost cutting a and his party

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<v Speaker 1>faces a midterm election this month. The financial assistance has

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<v Speaker 1>drawn criticism from some American farmers and Democratic lawmakers. Interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that American farmers would have something to say about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. We talked about him hosting Malay.

836
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<v Speaker 1>Trump has described Malay as his favorite president, and the

837
00:47:19.440 --> 00:47:23.280
<v Speaker 1>eclectic leader has drawn comparisons to Trump. Malay has repeatedly

838
00:47:23.320 --> 00:47:26.840
<v Speaker 1>wielded a chainsaw on stage to promote slashing spending, but

839
00:47:26.920 --> 00:47:30.360
<v Speaker 1>his agenda, which also includes deregulation and free market reform,

840
00:47:30.679 --> 00:47:33.519
<v Speaker 1>has led to a volatile peso currency. It is the

841
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:38.679
<v Speaker 1>Argentinian peso and seen investors aggressively dump Argentine stocks and bonds.

842
00:47:39.079 --> 00:47:41.719
<v Speaker 1>Voters will deliver their verdict on Malay's party since he

843
00:47:41.840 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 1>took office in December of twenty twenty three. At the

844
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Argentine midterm elections for legislators later this month, Trump said

845
00:47:48.960 --> 00:47:52.679
<v Speaker 1>support for the country relies on his success. It says

846
00:47:53.320 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 1>directly quotes we heard Trump say a moment ago. We

847
00:47:55.639 --> 00:47:57.760
<v Speaker 1>think he's gonna win. He should win, and if he

848
00:47:57.800 --> 00:47:59.480
<v Speaker 1>does win, we're going to be very helpful. And if

849
00:47:59.480 --> 00:48:01.719
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't win, can to waste our time. The comment

850
00:48:01.960 --> 00:48:06.440
<v Speaker 1>rattled Argentina's markets, according to Reuters. So why is Trump

851
00:48:06.519 --> 00:48:10.639
<v Speaker 1>bailing out Argentina? Argentina is in a deepening economic crisis

852
00:48:10.679 --> 00:48:13.880
<v Speaker 1>with a volatile currency. According to a blog published by

853
00:48:13.920 --> 00:48:16.480
<v Speaker 1>the Council on Formulations, the ins and outs of the

854
00:48:16.519 --> 00:48:19.800
<v Speaker 1>crisis are complicated, but undergirding it all is the fact

855
00:48:19.840 --> 00:48:23.480
<v Speaker 1>that the country is running out of hard currency. Trump

856
00:48:23.480 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 1>denied that money was politically motivated when a reporter asked

857
00:48:26.920 --> 00:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>on October fourteenth, instead saying, it's really meant to help

858
00:48:30.360 --> 00:48:34.480
<v Speaker 1>a good financial philosophy and we can help our neighbors.

859
00:48:35.039 --> 00:48:38.400
<v Speaker 1>The Trump administration has also argued the financial crisis in

860
00:48:38.480 --> 00:48:41.599
<v Speaker 1>the region could affect other countries in the region. So

861
00:48:42.039 --> 00:48:45.440
<v Speaker 1>is that what he's after? He's trying to stabilize the

862
00:48:45.559 --> 00:48:48.880
<v Speaker 1>entire region by stabilizing this one country that happens to

863
00:48:48.920 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>have his homie as the president. Yeah, out loud, that

864
00:48:53.400 --> 00:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>sounds a little suss I'll be honest with you. The

865
00:48:56.079 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 1>US Treasury Secretary Scott Pssent said that the United States

866
00:49:00.000 --> 00:49:02.400
<v Speaker 1>economic lifeline from Malay's country will take the form of

867
00:49:02.440 --> 00:49:06.239
<v Speaker 1>a currency swap with Argentina's central bank. That's a move

868
00:49:06.280 --> 00:49:09.679
<v Speaker 1>that amounts to effectively exchanging stable US dollars for the

869
00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:14.079
<v Speaker 1>volatile peso, he said on to Fox News. The ingram

870
00:49:14.119 --> 00:49:17.599
<v Speaker 1>angle last week denied that it was a bailout according

871
00:49:17.639 --> 00:49:21.440
<v Speaker 1>to Reuter's. However, the CFR article said it needs the

872
00:49:21.480 --> 00:49:25.519
<v Speaker 1>standard qualifications to be considered a bailout, Reuters reported. He

873
00:49:25.679 --> 00:49:28.679
<v Speaker 1>said the assistance was a strategic move for the United

874
00:49:28.719 --> 00:49:32.079
<v Speaker 1>States for its openness to allow US companies to develop

875
00:49:32.159 --> 00:49:36.119
<v Speaker 1>rare earths and uranium resources, and Malay's promise to keep

876
00:49:36.559 --> 00:49:41.079
<v Speaker 1>to get China out of Argentina. Ah, there it is.

877
00:49:41.760 --> 00:49:45.119
<v Speaker 1>There's the kicker. So let's talk about reactions to the

878
00:49:45.239 --> 00:49:48.719
<v Speaker 1>Argentina bailout. The decision to give Argentina a bailout has

879
00:49:48.719 --> 00:49:51.679
<v Speaker 1>angered some American farmers, who have expressed concerns that Trump's

880
00:49:51.719 --> 00:49:55.800
<v Speaker 1>tariff on China may have caused the Beijing markets to

881
00:49:55.880 --> 00:50:00.440
<v Speaker 1>shift purchases of soybean's two countries such as Argentina. Why

882
00:50:00.480 --> 00:50:03.960
<v Speaker 1>would USA help bail out Argentino while they take American

883
00:50:04.000 --> 00:50:09.320
<v Speaker 1>soybean producer's biggest market, the Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa,

884
00:50:09.440 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 1>a key soybean producer, wrote on social media last month.

885
00:50:12.960 --> 00:50:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Democratic lawmakers have also criticized Trump for the move, accusing

886
00:50:17.000 --> 00:50:20.079
<v Speaker 1>him of prioritizing foreign bailouts and protecting investors as the

887
00:50:20.119 --> 00:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>country has eclipsed two weeks in a government shut down.

888
00:50:22.960 --> 00:50:26.199
<v Speaker 1>According to Reuters, so they go into who is the

889
00:50:26.400 --> 00:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Argentinian president. We already know about him. He's seen as

890
00:50:29.360 --> 00:50:32.599
<v Speaker 1>El loco. He's crazy, he brings a chainsaw to talk

891
00:50:32.639 --> 00:50:36.199
<v Speaker 1>about government slashes. But let's talk about this here. On

892
00:50:36.239 --> 00:50:38.800
<v Speaker 1>October six, Malay took to the stage in Buenos Aires

893
00:50:38.840 --> 00:50:40.679
<v Speaker 1>for an event that appeared to be part of a

894
00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.320
<v Speaker 1>book launch, part rock concert, and part political rally. Malay's book,

895
00:50:45.440 --> 00:50:48.960
<v Speaker 1>The Construction of the Miracle compiles his speeches and social

896
00:50:48.960 --> 00:50:51.800
<v Speaker 1>media posts going back several years. It's five hundred and

897
00:50:51.840 --> 00:50:54.880
<v Speaker 1>seventy three pages. On stage in front of an estimated

898
00:50:54.880 --> 00:50:58.280
<v Speaker 1>fifteen thousand people, the former frontman in a Rolling Stones

899
00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:01.880
<v Speaker 1>tribute band saying a nine set of mostly nineteen eighties

900
00:51:02.000 --> 00:51:05.559
<v Speaker 1>rock anthems. I'm human, he told the pack stadium. At

901
00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:08.039
<v Speaker 1>one point, it might not seem like it, but I

902
00:51:08.079 --> 00:51:13.519
<v Speaker 1>am wow. So Trump is trying to bail out his homie,

903
00:51:13.639 --> 00:51:16.920
<v Speaker 1>and again they keep saying it's for strategic purposes. Could

904
00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:20.159
<v Speaker 1>that be something tied to Venezuela? Could that be something

905
00:51:20.199 --> 00:51:21.880
<v Speaker 1>tied to China? And to be honest with you, if

906
00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:24.719
<v Speaker 1>you look at the China Venezuela connections, I think that

907
00:51:24.760 --> 00:51:28.800
<v Speaker 1>this might be a multi pronged situation. I don't know.

908
00:51:28.920 --> 00:51:31.679
<v Speaker 1>I'm not smart enough with economics to know if a

909
00:51:31.760 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty billion dollar bailout is going to be enough to

910
00:51:34.000 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 1>really do much in this regard that being said, I

911
00:51:37.960 --> 00:51:40.440
<v Speaker 1>don't think that this is really putting it as as

912
00:51:40.559 --> 00:51:44.599
<v Speaker 1>the media says, an American first policy. But I guess

913
00:51:44.639 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll have to see how it shakes out. Tony. What

914
00:51:46.440 --> 00:51:47.679
<v Speaker 1>are your thoughts?

915
00:51:48.079 --> 00:51:50.679
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I wanted to say, when Malay took power a

916
00:51:50.719 --> 00:51:54.079
<v Speaker 2>little over a year ago or close to two years

917
00:51:54.079 --> 00:51:58.840
<v Speaker 2>ago now, whenever that was, I remember Argentina was on

918
00:51:58.880 --> 00:52:01.679
<v Speaker 2>a path to join Brick that time, and he reversed

919
00:52:01.679 --> 00:52:04.519
<v Speaker 2>that right away. So I think what's going on right

920
00:52:04.559 --> 00:52:08.000
<v Speaker 2>now is kind of like his reward for doing that,

921
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.519
<v Speaker 2>And there must have been some understanding that if you

922
00:52:10.599 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>get ever get into trouble, the US will help you,

923
00:52:13.920 --> 00:52:16.119
<v Speaker 2>and the US is trying to well, Trump is trying

924
00:52:16.159 --> 00:52:17.639
<v Speaker 2>to live it up to that side of the bargain.

925
00:52:18.000 --> 00:52:20.800
<v Speaker 1>I think you could be onto something with this, honestly. Yeah,

926
00:52:21.920 --> 00:52:24.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm trying to remember. I don't remember who

927
00:52:24.440 --> 00:52:27.519
<v Speaker 1>the administration was before Malay, but it was very liberal

928
00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:29.400
<v Speaker 1>and they were wanting to be a part of bricks.

929
00:52:29.400 --> 00:52:32.920
<v Speaker 1>I remember that Venezuela. They are a part of bricks, correct.

930
00:52:34.119 --> 00:52:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I think maybe I don't remember, but.

931
00:52:36.960 --> 00:52:37.320
<v Speaker 1>I want to.

932
00:52:39.559 --> 00:52:42.360
<v Speaker 2>And they do have a very good relationship with China,

933
00:52:42.679 --> 00:52:45.639
<v Speaker 2>and Argentina did have a better relationship with China, but

934
00:52:45.679 --> 00:52:50.039
<v Speaker 2>not anymore. Argentina's had something like four currency defaults since

935
00:52:50.039 --> 00:52:53.800
<v Speaker 2>the year two thousand and the main presidents I'm aware

936
00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.360
<v Speaker 2>of since the Parons are the Kirchners.

937
00:52:57.199 --> 00:52:57.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

938
00:52:57.599 --> 00:52:59.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who was in right before Malay though,

939
00:53:00.159 --> 00:53:00.920
<v Speaker 2>but whoever that.

940
00:53:01.039 --> 00:53:03.639
<v Speaker 1>Was, and I'm not sure if I could even pronounce

941
00:53:03.639 --> 00:53:05.679
<v Speaker 1>the name right Kirkner or or.

942
00:53:05.760 --> 00:53:07.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a German name. There's lots of Germans and

943
00:53:07.800 --> 00:53:10.400
<v Speaker 2>Italians and are interesting. In fact, it's kind of funny.

944
00:53:10.400 --> 00:53:12.599
<v Speaker 2>It's wider than Europe, very interesting.

945
00:53:12.679 --> 00:53:17.760
<v Speaker 1>The German and Italian influences in Argentina. You know, funny

946
00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.320
<v Speaker 1>how those things happen right after nineteen forty five. But yeah,

947
00:53:20.559 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 1>neither here.

948
00:53:21.000 --> 00:53:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Nor there though.

949
00:53:22.920 --> 00:53:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Probably honestly, but yeah, especially with the colonial Liberdad. I

950
00:53:27.920 --> 00:53:31.480
<v Speaker 1>think it's called the uh, the basically Nazi colony that

951
00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 1>is operating in Argentina right now. It's it's pretty wild

952
00:53:35.280 --> 00:53:39.679
<v Speaker 1>to look at. But uh. Anyway, so I don't know

953
00:53:39.719 --> 00:53:42.519
<v Speaker 1>what's gonna come of this. It's very possible that Trump

954
00:53:42.599 --> 00:53:46.599
<v Speaker 1>does this bailout thing and saves the Argentinian presidency and

955
00:53:47.000 --> 00:53:49.320
<v Speaker 1>he's able to kind of like you said, he he

956
00:53:49.599 --> 00:53:52.519
<v Speaker 1>got Argentina off of the bricks conversation, so now you know,

957
00:53:52.599 --> 00:53:54.719
<v Speaker 1>you scratched our back, will scratch eres kind of thing.

958
00:53:54.760 --> 00:53:56.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's going to do well in the

959
00:53:56.320 --> 00:53:58.760
<v Speaker 1>public image for Trump, but I also don't think he

960
00:53:58.840 --> 00:54:01.599
<v Speaker 1>really cares about the public image of him is, which

961
00:54:01.599 --> 00:54:04.400
<v Speaker 1>is there's pros and cons to that. I be honest,

962
00:54:04.559 --> 00:54:07.519
<v Speaker 1>I see both. But yeah, so we will see what

963
00:54:07.599 --> 00:54:11.280
<v Speaker 1>happens with the Argentina conversation and the Venezuela conversation. I

964
00:54:11.320 --> 00:54:13.000
<v Speaker 1>think there is more of a connection here than what

965
00:54:13.159 --> 00:54:16.440
<v Speaker 1>initially meets the eye. I think China is absolutely at

966
00:54:16.480 --> 00:54:19.320
<v Speaker 1>play with all of this, especially like we just talked about,

967
00:54:19.360 --> 00:54:22.119
<v Speaker 1>now that they're not buying American soy they are now

968
00:54:22.159 --> 00:54:26.280
<v Speaker 1>buying Argentinian soy And I'm wondering if this twenty billion

969
00:54:26.320 --> 00:54:29.199
<v Speaker 1>dollar bailout might be another way to tell Argentina, hey,

970
00:54:29.639 --> 00:54:33.079
<v Speaker 1>you're not selling soy beans to China anymore. And I

971
00:54:33.119 --> 00:54:36.360
<v Speaker 1>bet Malay would capitulate and be down with that as

972
00:54:36.360 --> 00:54:38.559
<v Speaker 1>long as the money came flowing in. I don't know,

973
00:54:39.239 --> 00:54:42.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm just speculating from my dvantage point. Now let's get

974
00:54:42.920 --> 00:54:46.480
<v Speaker 1>into this kind of going off topic, but still staying

975
00:54:46.519 --> 00:54:50.679
<v Speaker 1>on topic as far as the legal system in America goes.

976
00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:55.079
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court rejects Alex Jones's appeal in the Sandy hook

977
00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.519
<v Speaker 1>defamation case on I mean, if you have heard about this,

978
00:54:58.639 --> 00:55:02.800
<v Speaker 1>but so long story short, Sandy Hooks shooting took place. Okay,

979
00:55:03.079 --> 00:55:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Alex Jones one of the all time greatest conspiracy heads

980
00:55:07.760 --> 00:55:11.079
<v Speaker 1>in the game currently. Okay, agree with things he says,

981
00:55:11.159 --> 00:55:13.719
<v Speaker 1>disagree with things he says, It doesn't matter. You can't

982
00:55:13.719 --> 00:55:16.320
<v Speaker 1>deny that the man is at least a cultural icon

983
00:55:16.519 --> 00:55:20.679
<v Speaker 1>in the realm of conspiratorial conversations. That being said, he

984
00:55:20.719 --> 00:55:24.440
<v Speaker 1>made a lot of claims about Sandy Hook, about how

985
00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 1>it was all fake and these parents of these these

986
00:55:27.800 --> 00:55:31.280
<v Speaker 1>murdered children were all crisis actors. And he not only

987
00:55:31.320 --> 00:55:34.679
<v Speaker 1>doubled but tripled down on this and then got brought

988
00:55:34.719 --> 00:55:37.199
<v Speaker 1>before the Supreme Court and they said, no, you are

989
00:55:37.239 --> 00:55:41.400
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to make massive payouts to the family families,

990
00:55:41.559 --> 00:55:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I should say. And now he just tried to have

991
00:55:44.079 --> 00:55:48.039
<v Speaker 1>this repealed, and the Supreme Court basically said, nah, homie,

992
00:55:48.199 --> 00:55:50.639
<v Speaker 1>that's not happening. But you know what, let's hear about it?

993
00:55:50.800 --> 00:55:52.239
<v Speaker 1>Is it from CBS News New York.

994
00:55:52.840 --> 00:55:56.400
<v Speaker 7>The Supreme Court has rejected an appeal from conspiracy theorist

995
00:55:56.559 --> 00:55:59.880
<v Speaker 7>Alex Jones over the one point four billion dollar judgment

996
00:56:00.039 --> 00:56:03.840
<v Speaker 7>against him for calling the twenty twelve Sandy Hook Elementary

997
00:56:03.840 --> 00:56:08.280
<v Speaker 7>School shooting a hoax staged by crisis actors. The Info

998
00:56:08.320 --> 00:56:10.800
<v Speaker 7>Wars host had argued that a judge was wrong to

999
00:56:10.800 --> 00:56:15.000
<v Speaker 7>find him liable for defamation and infliction of emotional distress

1000
00:56:15.119 --> 00:56:18.559
<v Speaker 7>without holding a trial on the merits. Jones is separately

1001
00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:21.920
<v Speaker 7>appealing a forty nine million dollar judgment and a similar

1002
00:56:21.960 --> 00:56:25.440
<v Speaker 7>defamation lawsuit in Texas after he failed to turn over

1003
00:56:25.599 --> 00:56:28.960
<v Speaker 7>documents sought by the parents of another Sandy Hook victim.

1004
00:56:29.400 --> 00:56:32.519
<v Speaker 7>The justices did not comment on their decision.

1005
00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:35.679
<v Speaker 1>So essentially he's still going to have to pay. But

1006
00:56:36.840 --> 00:56:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the one point four billion dollars in all these things.

1007
00:56:39.320 --> 00:56:44.679
<v Speaker 1>His company has grown substantially since that judgment has been passed.

1008
00:56:44.719 --> 00:56:47.199
<v Speaker 1>And I'm not saying it's because of the judgment or

1009
00:56:47.480 --> 00:56:50.599
<v Speaker 1>even in spite of the judgment, but Alice Jones and

1010
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.159
<v Speaker 1>Info Wars as a whole is doing better now than

1011
00:56:53.199 --> 00:56:55.840
<v Speaker 1>they have ever done. A lot of people will say

1012
00:56:55.880 --> 00:56:57.280
<v Speaker 1>there's no way he's ever going to be able to

1013
00:56:57.280 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 1>make that kind of a payout one point four billion dollars.

1014
00:57:01.360 --> 00:57:03.400
<v Speaker 1>I have a weird suspicion that he'll be able to

1015
00:57:03.679 --> 00:57:06.280
<v Speaker 1>give him another ten years and he'll probably be able

1016
00:57:06.280 --> 00:57:07.719
<v Speaker 1>to make the payments, but of course he's going to

1017
00:57:07.760 --> 00:57:09.199
<v Speaker 1>try to fight it tooth and nail as much as

1018
00:57:09.199 --> 00:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>he can. Look, one point four billion dollars is not

1019
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:15.039
<v Speaker 1>a small amount of money to pay out. That's pretty large,

1020
00:57:15.920 --> 00:57:17.760
<v Speaker 1>but so are some of the claims that he was making.

1021
00:57:18.360 --> 00:57:23.039
<v Speaker 1>So anyway, not trying to detract from the conversation of geopolitics,

1022
00:57:23.159 --> 00:57:24.880
<v Speaker 1>but I thought that that was interesting to bring up

1023
00:57:24.880 --> 00:57:27.840
<v Speaker 1>as well, because now we go into talking about courts

1024
00:57:27.880 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>and legal things. This is from SCOTUSblog dot com. The

1025
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:37.400
<v Speaker 1>Supreme Court appears ready to curtail major provisions in a

1026
00:57:37.559 --> 00:57:41.000
<v Speaker 1>voting rights act. Now, this one kind of hits near

1027
00:57:41.039 --> 00:57:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and dear to myself because Louisiana is currently getting ready

1028
00:57:46.719 --> 00:57:50.079
<v Speaker 1>to draw a new map. California drew a new map

1029
00:57:50.119 --> 00:57:52.639
<v Speaker 1>and people got pissed about it. Texas drew a new

1030
00:57:52.679 --> 00:57:56.480
<v Speaker 1>map in response to California drawing that map. Now Louisiana

1031
00:57:56.880 --> 00:57:59.519
<v Speaker 1>is about to draw another map to talk about which

1032
00:57:59.719 --> 00:58:02.800
<v Speaker 1>dish get how many votes? As far as these things go,

1033
00:58:03.199 --> 00:58:05.559
<v Speaker 1>and the Supreme Court is now weighing in on it,

1034
00:58:05.599 --> 00:58:11.480
<v Speaker 1>and they're saying that it's all racially motivated. I shit

1035
00:58:11.599 --> 00:58:14.559
<v Speaker 1>you not. They are literally saying that the redistrict thing

1036
00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:20.599
<v Speaker 1>of the map is specifically and inherently a racially motivated decision.

1037
00:58:21.360 --> 00:58:24.239
<v Speaker 1>Never mind the fact of the race has nothing to

1038
00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:28.199
<v Speaker 1>do with this. In my personal opinion, I know tons

1039
00:58:28.320 --> 00:58:32.519
<v Speaker 1>of Republicans of all different races and backgrounds. I know

1040
00:58:32.679 --> 00:58:37.480
<v Speaker 1>tons of Democrats from all races and backgrounds. As far

1041
00:58:37.519 --> 00:58:40.119
<v Speaker 1>as that's concerned, Louisiana has a population it's like a

1042
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<v Speaker 1>third of the population of Louisiana is of the African

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00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:49.320
<v Speaker 1>American persuasion. Not all of those are Democrats. And I

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00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:53.159
<v Speaker 1>would also like to mention that black conservatives in this

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00:58:53.320 --> 00:58:56.440
<v Speaker 1>state are not some sort of a weird monolith by

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00:58:56.480 --> 00:58:59.880
<v Speaker 1>any means, especially now after the last couple of elections.

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00:58:59.880 --> 00:59:02.280
<v Speaker 1>But sure, we got to make it a race issue,

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00:59:02.320 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 1>let's get into it. The Supreme Court on Wednesday appeared

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00:59:04.920 --> 00:59:07.559
<v Speaker 1>ready to strike down a twenty twenty four congressional map

1050
00:59:07.559 --> 00:59:10.719
<v Speaker 1>that the group of voters has challenged as the product

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00:59:10.760 --> 00:59:15.519
<v Speaker 1>of unconstitutional racial jerrymandering. That is, according to them, it

1052
00:59:15.599 --> 00:59:18.559
<v Speaker 1>sorts voters based on race in violation of the Fourteenth

1053
00:59:18.599 --> 00:59:22.079
<v Speaker 1>Amendment's equal protection clause. During nearly two and a half

1054
00:59:22.199 --> 00:59:26.039
<v Speaker 1>years of oral arguments, the Court's conservative justices signaled that

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00:59:26.079 --> 00:59:28.599
<v Speaker 1>they are likely to undermine a key provision of the

1056
00:59:28.679 --> 00:59:31.840
<v Speaker 1>Voting Rights Act, even if they may not ultimately strike

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00:59:31.880 --> 00:59:36.400
<v Speaker 1>it down altogether. Wednesday's oral argument was the latest chapter

1058
00:59:36.480 --> 00:59:38.719
<v Speaker 1>in a dispute that dates back to twenty twenty two,

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00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:42.000
<v Speaker 1>when Louisiana adopted a new congressional map in the wake

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00:59:42.039 --> 00:59:45.079
<v Speaker 1>of the twenty twenty census. Roughly one third of the

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00:59:45.079 --> 00:59:48.719
<v Speaker 1>state's population is black, but the twenty twenty two map

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00:59:49.000 --> 00:59:51.679
<v Speaker 1>had only one majority black district out of the six

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00:59:51.800 --> 00:59:55.280
<v Speaker 1>districts allotted to the state. That prompted a group of

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00:59:55.320 --> 00:59:57.800
<v Speaker 1>black voters to go to federal court, where they argued

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00:59:57.800 --> 01:00:01.000
<v Speaker 1>that the twenty twenty two map violated Section two of

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01:00:01.079 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 1>the Federal Voting Rights Act, which barres discrimination in voting practices.

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<v Speaker 1>The US District Judge Shelley dick Wow agreed that the

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01:00:10.559 --> 01:00:13.960
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two map likely violated Section two. She prohibited

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01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:16.199
<v Speaker 1>the state from using the map in future elections and

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01:00:16.320 --> 01:00:18.840
<v Speaker 1>ordered the state to draw a new map with two

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01:00:19.159 --> 01:00:22.360
<v Speaker 1>majority black districts. The US Court of Appeals in the

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01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:25.239
<v Speaker 1>Fifth Circuit upheld that ruling. He gave the state until

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01:00:25.320 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 1>January fifteenth, twenty twenty four, to enact a new map

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01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.119
<v Speaker 1>or face the prospect that the lower court would adopt

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01:00:31.159 --> 01:00:34.960
<v Speaker 1>a plan. For the twenty twenty four elections, Louisiana drew

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01:00:34.960 --> 01:00:37.800
<v Speaker 1>a new map that created a second majority black district.

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01:00:38.119 --> 01:00:40.599
<v Speaker 1>The twenty twenty four map drew a challenge from a

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01:00:40.639 --> 01:00:44.400
<v Speaker 1>group of voters who described themselves as non African American.

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01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:48.239
<v Speaker 1>A three judge federal District court agreed with them that

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01:00:48.280 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four map violated the Constitution's equal Protection

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01:00:51.960 --> 01:00:55.639
<v Speaker 1>clause by sorting voters based on race, and it barred

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01:00:55.639 --> 01:00:58.159
<v Speaker 1>the state from using the map in the future elections,

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01:00:58.719 --> 01:01:02.760
<v Speaker 1>so getting into it here. In May twenty twenty four,

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01:01:02.800 --> 01:01:06.519
<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court put three judge district courts ruling on hold,

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01:01:06.800 --> 01:01:09.360
<v Speaker 1>which allowed the state to move forward with the using

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01:01:10.039 --> 01:01:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the new map in twenty twenty four elections. Voters in

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01:01:12.880 --> 01:01:17.159
<v Speaker 1>the sixth district, the new majority black district, elected Cleo Fields,

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01:01:17.320 --> 01:01:20.559
<v Speaker 1>a former member of Congress who had represented another majority

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01:01:20.559 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 1>black district during the nineteen nineties, to represent them. Louisiana

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01:01:24.679 --> 01:01:26.960
<v Speaker 1>and the black voters appealed to the Supreme Court, which

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01:01:27.000 --> 01:01:29.239
<v Speaker 1>heard oral arguments for the first time in the spring

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01:01:29.280 --> 01:01:32.639
<v Speaker 1>of this year. Louisiana contended that once the law made

1093
01:01:32.719 --> 01:01:35.719
<v Speaker 1>the excuse me. Once the lower courts had concluded that

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01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:39.320
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty two map likely violated the VREA and

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01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:42.480
<v Speaker 1>directed it to draw map with a second majority black district.

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01:01:42.480 --> 01:01:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Its primary goal was to protect the state's powerful Republican

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01:01:45.159 --> 01:01:47.920
<v Speaker 1>incumbents in Congress, such as Speaker of the House Mike

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01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:53.280
<v Speaker 1>Johnson and Representative Julia Letlow, who sits on the House

1099
01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Appropriations Committee. The non African American voters countered that it

1100
01:01:58.000 --> 01:02:02.159
<v Speaker 1>was utterly implausible that both race and politics were equally

1101
01:02:02.199 --> 01:02:05.280
<v Speaker 1>responsible for the twenty twenty four map. The state first

1102
01:02:05.320 --> 01:02:08.519
<v Speaker 1>decided to draw the second majority black district, and then

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01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.519
<v Speaker 1>considered how to draw the map in a way that

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01:02:10.559 --> 01:02:14.559
<v Speaker 1>would protect Republicans, they contended. On June twenty seventh, the

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01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:17.840
<v Speaker 1>last day before the justices summer recess, the Court issued

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01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:20.760
<v Speaker 1>a brief order setting the case for another argument in

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01:02:20.800 --> 01:02:24.320
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty five twenty sixth term. On August first,

1108
01:02:24.679 --> 01:02:28.480
<v Speaker 1>Justices issued an order in which they directed the litigations

1109
01:02:28.519 --> 01:02:32.360
<v Speaker 1>to file briefs addressing a new question whether the state's

1110
01:02:32.559 --> 01:02:36.880
<v Speaker 1>intentional creation of a second majority minority district violates either

1111
01:02:36.880 --> 01:02:40.480
<v Speaker 1>the fourteenth or fifteenth Amendment, which bars the government from

1112
01:02:40.519 --> 01:02:45.039
<v Speaker 1>denying or restricting voting rights based on race. At Wednesday's

1113
01:02:45.119 --> 01:02:50.119
<v Speaker 1>oral argument, lawyer Jannai Nelson, representing the black voters, defended

1114
01:02:50.119 --> 01:02:52.679
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four map. She told the Justices that

1115
01:02:52.840 --> 01:02:56.079
<v Speaker 1>a mere two years ago, in Allen versus Milligan, a

1116
01:02:56.159 --> 01:02:59.840
<v Speaker 1>case nearly identical to this one, the Supreme Court noted that,

1117
01:03:00.079 --> 01:03:04.599
<v Speaker 1>under certain circumstances, it has authorized race based redistricting to

1118
01:03:04.719 --> 01:03:10.280
<v Speaker 1>remedy state restriction maps that violate Section two, Louisiana Solicitor

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01:03:10.360 --> 01:03:17.559
<v Speaker 1>General Benjamin Auguena Auguinaga, I don't speak the language. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>By contrast, urged the Court to reevaluate its voting precedents,

1121
01:03:22.000 --> 01:03:24.960
<v Speaker 1>although the state had defined the twenty twenty four map

1122
01:03:25.079 --> 01:03:27.519
<v Speaker 1>when the case was before the Supreme Court in March.

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01:03:27.920 --> 01:03:31.639
<v Speaker 1>The General told the justices on Wednesday that those precedents

1124
01:03:31.880 --> 01:03:35.880
<v Speaker 1>had place states in impossible situations where they only where

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01:03:35.920 --> 01:03:40.800
<v Speaker 1>the only sure demand is more racial discrimination for more decades. Therefore,

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01:03:40.840 --> 01:03:43.320
<v Speaker 1>he said, we have taken the position that Section two,

1127
01:03:43.400 --> 01:03:48.599
<v Speaker 1>insofar as it requires race based redistricting, is unconstitutional. Chief

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01:03:48.760 --> 01:03:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Justice John Roberts, the author of the court's opinion in Milligan,

1129
01:03:52.760 --> 01:03:55.719
<v Speaker 1>appeared to suggest that the Milligan case should not necessarily

1130
01:03:55.760 --> 01:03:59.199
<v Speaker 1>dictate the outcome of the Louisiana case. That case, he said,

1131
01:03:59.400 --> 01:04:01.960
<v Speaker 1>took the exist misting precedents as a given, and he

1132
01:04:02.039 --> 01:04:04.320
<v Speaker 1>continued that it was a case in which we were

1133
01:04:04.320 --> 01:04:07.920
<v Speaker 1>considering Alabama's particular challenge based on what turned out to

1134
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:13.719
<v Speaker 1>be an improper evidentiary showing. Justice Elena Kagan countered that

1135
01:04:13.760 --> 01:04:18.039
<v Speaker 1>Alabama had made several arguments that we specifically rejected in Milligan,

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01:04:18.519 --> 01:04:22.400
<v Speaker 1>and that the answers that you just gave, and in

1137
01:04:22.480 --> 01:04:24.719
<v Speaker 1>the answer that you just gave to me, it seems

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01:04:24.760 --> 01:04:26.920
<v Speaker 1>to me that you repeated each and every one of

1139
01:04:26.920 --> 01:04:31.480
<v Speaker 1>those arguments that we rejected. It's a fair point. Justice

1140
01:04:31.480 --> 01:04:35.079
<v Speaker 1>Brett Kavanaugh, who joined the majority in Milligan, raised a

1141
01:04:35.159 --> 01:04:38.679
<v Speaker 1>point that he had made in concurring opinions in a

1142
01:04:38.719 --> 01:04:41.840
<v Speaker 1>concurring opinion in that case. This Court's case is a

1143
01:04:41.920 --> 01:04:46.559
<v Speaker 1>variety of Contexts have said that race based remedies are

1144
01:04:46.599 --> 01:04:49.840
<v Speaker 1>permissible for a period of time, sometimes for a long

1145
01:04:49.880 --> 01:04:53.599
<v Speaker 1>period of time decades in some cases, but they should

1146
01:04:53.599 --> 01:04:56.960
<v Speaker 1>not be an indefinite and should not have or or

1147
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:00.880
<v Speaker 1>should have an endpoint. Nelson resisted any tension that Section

1148
01:05:00.920 --> 01:05:04.280
<v Speaker 1>two or race based redistricting should have a similar endpoint.

1149
01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.519
<v Speaker 1>She noted, among other things, that Congress decidedly did not

1150
01:05:07.679 --> 01:05:10.599
<v Speaker 1>include a time limit in Section two, even though it

1151
01:05:10.639 --> 01:05:14.840
<v Speaker 1>had done so elsewhere in the Vra. Justice Kintaji Brown

1152
01:05:14.960 --> 01:05:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Jackson emphasized that Section two is not a remedy in

1153
01:05:17.920 --> 01:05:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and of itself, but is instead the mechanism by which

1154
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the law determines whether a remedy is necessary, which she

1155
01:05:24.960 --> 01:05:27.840
<v Speaker 1>said may or may not involve the consideration of race,

1156
01:05:28.320 --> 01:05:31.559
<v Speaker 1>and so that's why it doesn't need a time limit,

1157
01:05:31.639 --> 01:05:35.559
<v Speaker 1>she reasoned, because it's not doing any work for any

1158
01:05:35.599 --> 01:05:38.079
<v Speaker 1>work other than just pointing us to the direction of

1159
01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:40.760
<v Speaker 1>where we might need to do something, as they had

1160
01:05:40.840 --> 01:05:44.119
<v Speaker 1>in or argent argument. In March, some justices questioned whether

1161
01:05:44.159 --> 01:05:47.159
<v Speaker 1>the District's court decisions findings in the twenty twenty two

1162
01:05:47.199 --> 01:05:50.599
<v Speaker 1>map likely violated Section two justified the creation of the

1163
01:05:50.639 --> 01:05:54.159
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty four map with its second majority Black District

1164
01:05:54.480 --> 01:05:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Justice Clarence Thomas president prest Nelson, asking whether the lower

1165
01:05:58.920 --> 01:06:03.559
<v Speaker 1>court had ordered this particular map. Nelson responded that had not.

1166
01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:06.719
<v Speaker 1>The court gave the State of Louisiana an opportunity, as

1167
01:06:06.800 --> 01:06:11.079
<v Speaker 1>this Court has suggested to it do. It gave it

1168
01:06:11.400 --> 01:06:14.639
<v Speaker 1>broad discretion, gave it wide latitude to create a map

1169
01:06:14.760 --> 01:06:18.440
<v Speaker 1>that felt that it felt was satisfactory. But the General

1170
01:06:18.519 --> 01:06:20.920
<v Speaker 1>told Thomas that the District Court's decision of the twenty

1171
01:06:21.000 --> 01:06:23.480
<v Speaker 1>twenty two map is the only reason that the twenty

1172
01:06:23.519 --> 01:06:26.840
<v Speaker 1>twenty four map exists. Louisiana, he said, drew the twenty

1173
01:06:26.880 --> 01:06:30.000
<v Speaker 1>twenty four map under protest because the threat was that

1174
01:06:30.039 --> 01:06:32.400
<v Speaker 1>the federal courts were going to do it if we didn't.

1175
01:06:33.119 --> 01:06:36.400
<v Speaker 1>Just as Amy Cony Barrett echo Thomas's concerns about the

1176
01:06:36.440 --> 01:06:39.840
<v Speaker 1>weight that the district court decision should carry, she noted

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01:06:39.880 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 1>that the court had assumed, without deciding, that complying with

1178
01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:46.360
<v Speaker 1>the Section two is a compelling interest for purposes of

1179
01:06:46.400 --> 01:06:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the Fourteenth Amendment, as part of the test that comes

1180
01:06:49.199 --> 01:06:53.960
<v Speaker 1>into play when race occupies a predominant role in redistricting.

1181
01:06:54.400 --> 01:06:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But in the case like this, like the one involving

1182
01:06:57.920 --> 01:07:01.000
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty two map, when this doesn't really think

1183
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:04.159
<v Speaker 1>that the map violates Section two and it hasn't been

1184
01:07:04.440 --> 01:07:08.360
<v Speaker 1>finally adjudicated, it seems to suggest that there is really

1185
01:07:08.440 --> 01:07:12.039
<v Speaker 1>a compelling interest. Or she's asking, does it seem that

1186
01:07:13.039 --> 01:07:15.719
<v Speaker 1>it does? It seem to suggest that there really is

1187
01:07:15.760 --> 01:07:19.280
<v Speaker 1>a compelling interest. Kavanaugh also appeared somewhat receptive to the

1188
01:07:19.320 --> 01:07:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Trump administration this argument made by Principal Deputy Solicitor General

1189
01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:29.320
<v Speaker 1>Hashim Moupon all Right, that the constitutional problem before the

1190
01:07:29.320 --> 01:07:32.840
<v Speaker 1>court is not the mere consideration of the race in districting.

1191
01:07:33.239 --> 01:07:37.719
<v Speaker 1>The problem is when race subordinates traditional neutral principles and

1192
01:07:37.800 --> 01:07:41.559
<v Speaker 1>is factor that cannot be compromised. The Trump administration, while

1193
01:07:41.599 --> 01:07:45.880
<v Speaker 1>not jettisoning Section two would make it more difficult to

1194
01:07:45.920 --> 01:07:49.000
<v Speaker 1>bring a Section two claim. In its view, a violation

1195
01:07:49.079 --> 01:07:51.599
<v Speaker 1>of Section two cannot rest on a lack of equal

1196
01:07:51.639 --> 01:07:55.239
<v Speaker 1>opportunity for minority plaintiffs to participate in the political process

1197
01:07:55.360 --> 01:07:59.039
<v Speaker 1>when politics, rather than race, is the likely reason for

1198
01:07:59.079 --> 01:08:03.039
<v Speaker 1>the state's refusal to create a majority minority district. Anyway,

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01:08:04.000 --> 01:08:05.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, I only got a little bit left to

1200
01:08:05.159 --> 01:08:08.719
<v Speaker 1>gover Nelson cautioned that adopting her opponent's position would create

1201
01:08:08.760 --> 01:08:11.760
<v Speaker 1>a staggering reversal of precedent that would throw maps across

1202
01:08:11.760 --> 01:08:14.519
<v Speaker 1>the country into chaos. But if the court believes that

1203
01:08:14.559 --> 01:08:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the twenty twenty four map is unconstitutional, she continued, it

1204
01:08:17.680 --> 01:08:20.119
<v Speaker 1>should send the case back to the lower court for

1205
01:08:20.199 --> 01:08:23.159
<v Speaker 1>it to use one of the many alterations that are

1206
01:08:23.199 --> 01:08:26.560
<v Speaker 1>available to meet Section two and also comply with the Constitution.

1207
01:08:27.000 --> 01:08:29.359
<v Speaker 1>But it should lead the lower Court's findings that the

1208
01:08:29.359 --> 01:08:32.479
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two map violated Section two undisturbed, she said,

1209
01:08:32.880 --> 01:08:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and it must be remedied. Moupon countered that there are

1210
01:08:36.119 --> 01:08:39.880
<v Speaker 1>roughly sixty black representatives in Congress right now and only

1211
01:08:39.960 --> 01:08:44.199
<v Speaker 1>fifteen majority black districts. None of these positions advanced by

1212
01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:47.920
<v Speaker 1>the Trump administration or the other litigations opposing the twenty

1213
01:08:47.960 --> 01:08:50.600
<v Speaker 1>twenty four map, he said, is going to lead to

1214
01:08:50.720 --> 01:08:54.399
<v Speaker 1>there being no black representation in Congress or anything remotely

1215
01:08:54.479 --> 01:09:00.119
<v Speaker 1>approaching that. Okay, long article, but long story short, we're

1216
01:09:00.159 --> 01:09:02.800
<v Speaker 1>wanting to redistrict the map based off of a census

1217
01:09:02.800 --> 01:09:08.720
<v Speaker 1>that was took and them redistricting this map precedent to this,

1218
01:09:09.000 --> 01:09:11.279
<v Speaker 1>or you know, a couple of years ago they redistricted

1219
01:09:11.359 --> 01:09:14.319
<v Speaker 1>to where there was two majority black districts. They're saying

1220
01:09:14.319 --> 01:09:16.920
<v Speaker 1>that they need to redistrict this again because that's race

1221
01:09:16.960 --> 01:09:20.960
<v Speaker 1>based and not census based. Take that for what you want. Honestly,

1222
01:09:21.960 --> 01:09:25.520
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't have any real fear of

1223
01:09:25.640 --> 01:09:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana becoming a blue state. As far as federal elections go.

1224
01:09:29.760 --> 01:09:32.000
<v Speaker 1>State elections kind of swing one way or another. We

1225
01:09:32.079 --> 01:09:37.039
<v Speaker 1>have Democrat governors sometimes and Republican governors others. That kind

1226
01:09:37.079 --> 01:09:39.119
<v Speaker 1>of goes up in the air depending on who the

1227
01:09:39.159 --> 01:09:43.000
<v Speaker 1>candidates are. To be honest with you, but yeah, apparently

1228
01:09:43.039 --> 01:09:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Louisiana is possibly also having some jerrymandering issues, and uh,

1229
01:09:47.880 --> 01:09:50.239
<v Speaker 1>the Supreme Court is weighing in on this. Say, I'm

1230
01:09:50.399 --> 01:09:51.920
<v Speaker 1>see your hand raised, brother, what you got.

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<v Speaker 6>My question is while we did, people are trying to

1232
01:09:57.680 --> 01:10:01.119
<v Speaker 6>bring back segregation when that we all evil.

1233
01:10:03.439 --> 01:10:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's not necessarily segregation in that way. So jerry mandering,

1234
01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:15.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to find a way to describe this without pictures. Essentially,

1235
01:10:15.960 --> 01:10:19.319
<v Speaker 1>it is redrawing the lines to where you get more

1236
01:10:19.399 --> 01:10:22.640
<v Speaker 1>votes that look like they're swaying one direction rather than another.

1237
01:10:23.000 --> 01:10:24.640
<v Speaker 1>A vote is a vote is a vote, and it

1238
01:10:24.680 --> 01:10:28.880
<v Speaker 1>counts this way. But they are saying that the black

1239
01:10:28.960 --> 01:10:33.199
<v Speaker 1>vote is going to be made lesser by redrawing the

1240
01:10:33.239 --> 01:10:36.800
<v Speaker 1>maps to where instead of having two majority black districts

1241
01:10:37.039 --> 01:10:39.880
<v Speaker 1>who are voting on behalf of all of the African

1242
01:10:39.920 --> 01:10:44.199
<v Speaker 1>American population in Louisiana according to these people, which is incorrect,

1243
01:10:44.640 --> 01:10:48.000
<v Speaker 1>but whatever, they're saying that the black vote will not

1244
01:10:48.079 --> 01:10:51.960
<v Speaker 1>be counted as much. And I understand what they're saying.

1245
01:10:52.039 --> 01:10:56.399
<v Speaker 1>Jerry Mandering has been done very very bad, bad, bad,

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<v Speaker 1>bad things in the past. I'm not taking away from that.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, more and more black voters in this state

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01:11:02.920 --> 01:11:07.079
<v Speaker 1>are swapping sides, So having two majority black districts, I

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01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:10.239
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's going to help the cause. From the

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01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:14.359
<v Speaker 1>left versus right, conversation like they think it will. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm I'm all for rezoning when it's needed,

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01:11:20.520 --> 01:11:23.760
<v Speaker 1>especially in this state. There is so much movement that

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01:11:23.800 --> 01:11:27.039
<v Speaker 1>has happened in the last twenty years. Certain cities, Okay,

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01:11:27.119 --> 01:11:30.359
<v Speaker 1>New Orleans and Baton Rouge and Shreveport are always going

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01:11:30.359 --> 01:11:33.439
<v Speaker 1>to be majority black cities. I get that. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you look parish to perish, what other states have, like

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01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:39.840
<v Speaker 1>county to county, it's not so segregated like it once was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, hell, Livingston Parish, it's not too far from me.

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<v Speaker 1>At one point was very, very heavily white based, and

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01:11:47.479 --> 01:11:49.920
<v Speaker 1>it was very racial. As a matter of fact, it

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<v Speaker 1>was very racist. It was seen as like the last

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<v Speaker 1>stronghold for the Klan in this state. Right that is

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01:11:55.239 --> 01:11:57.520
<v Speaker 1>no longer the case, and there are more and more

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<v Speaker 1>black people that are moving out that way, and they're

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<v Speaker 1>not doing it because of you know, gentrification or whatever else.

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<v Speaker 1>The opportunities in Louisiana are more equal now than they've

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<v Speaker 1>ever been, and you have people, regardless of whatever race,

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<v Speaker 1>they are making equal money to white people, so they're

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<v Speaker 1>able to move into the same areas that white people

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<v Speaker 1>are living. We have a real melting pot that is

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<v Speaker 1>going on in this day right now, which I am

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<v Speaker 1>all for for the record. So for them to redraw

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<v Speaker 1>these maps to make more black districts, they're using race

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01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:33.079
<v Speaker 1>as their motivating factor, and I think that's just wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>But I know that I'm looking at it from my

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<v Speaker 1>own vantage point here. But Tony, go ahead, brother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, pall politics is friend enemy and just the basic

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<v Speaker 2>definition of jerrymandering is that depending on how you draw

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01:12:47.079 --> 01:12:49.760
<v Speaker 2>the boundaries, you could take a fifty to fifty Republican

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01:12:49.880 --> 01:12:53.319
<v Speaker 2>versus Democrat state and you could get like ninety percent

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01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:56.479
<v Speaker 2>of the House representatives to be Republican just by drawing

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<v Speaker 2>the boundaries a certain way, or ninety percent Democrat just

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01:13:00.199 --> 01:13:04.199
<v Speaker 2>by drawing the boundaries a certain way. And since there's

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<v Speaker 2>an obvious beneficiary to any kind of drawing in the boundaries,

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01:13:07.840 --> 01:13:09.960
<v Speaker 2>the other party is always going to see it is unfair.

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<v Speaker 2>As for segregation and everything, yeah, I'm glad that we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have mandatory segregation. But here's the big butt. You know,

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01:13:21.479 --> 01:13:24.880
<v Speaker 2>some people do really well in a non segregated, integrated environment,

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01:13:25.199 --> 01:13:29.680
<v Speaker 2>other people not so much. Some people do want some segregation,

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01:13:30.279 --> 01:13:33.760
<v Speaker 2>not just white people either. So there's been some black

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<v Speaker 2>movement to you know, creating their own spaces for example,

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01:13:39.399 --> 01:13:42.920
<v Speaker 2>black only dormitories or the Black National Anthem being serving

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<v Speaker 2>sporting events. And I don't know if I'm in favor

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<v Speaker 2>of that, but it just goes to show that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not one size fits all. I think like eighty percent

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<v Speaker 2>of people can get by really well in an integrated culture,

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<v Speaker 2>but there's always like twenty percent that won't. And if

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<v Speaker 2>having some Blacks only spaces or some whites only spaces

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<v Speaker 2>even today in modern day America, would help them, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's okay.

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<v Speaker 1>To do that. I get what you're saying. And there

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<v Speaker 1>are certain cultures that do well in de facto segregation,

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<v Speaker 1>not d joro right, Dajora being the one where there's

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01:14:23.520 --> 01:14:26.279
<v Speaker 1>legal there's laws in place saying that you can only

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01:14:26.319 --> 01:14:28.239
<v Speaker 1>live here, you can only work these jobs based off

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01:14:28.239 --> 01:14:30.920
<v Speaker 1>of your race. De facto segregation is more just like

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01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:34.880
<v Speaker 1>this culture and society in this one city is inherently

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<v Speaker 1>very Latin based, and that's just how it goes because

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01:14:37.880 --> 01:14:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that just happens to be where all the Latin people

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<v Speaker 1>move to or all the black people live in this city,

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01:14:42.439 --> 01:14:45.199
<v Speaker 1>and that just makes it what it is. Fine. I

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01:14:45.239 --> 01:14:47.399
<v Speaker 1>don't have a problem with that. But what I'm saying

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01:14:47.439 --> 01:14:51.239
<v Speaker 1>is redrawing the lines based off of race alone. That

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01:14:51.640 --> 01:14:54.520
<v Speaker 1>leads down this road where they think that the majority

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01:14:54.560 --> 01:14:57.960
<v Speaker 1>black districts are only going to vote Democrat, and that

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01:14:58.039 --> 01:15:01.079
<v Speaker 1>is simply not the case. That may be the case

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01:15:01.119 --> 01:15:03.640
<v Speaker 1>in some places, that may be the case in a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of places. I can speak pretty intelligently on this

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01:15:07.600 --> 01:15:10.319
<v Speaker 1>one in Louisiana, even though, Yeah, if you were to

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01:15:10.319 --> 01:15:13.359
<v Speaker 1>look at the census and see how many Black Louisianians

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01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.439
<v Speaker 1>are registered Democrat, but then you also compare that to

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01:15:16.479 --> 01:15:19.000
<v Speaker 1>how they voted in the last two elections for state

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01:15:19.159 --> 01:15:22.079
<v Speaker 1>and for federal, it's not gonna work out the way

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01:15:22.079 --> 01:15:25.239
<v Speaker 1>that they hope it will. But you know, it's an attempt.

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<v Speaker 1>I see what you're saying. Some cultures benefit from segregation

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01:15:29.760 --> 01:15:33.720
<v Speaker 1>in some way, shape or form, some benefit from integration.

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<v Speaker 1>I am personally of the belief, and I could be

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01:15:37.079 --> 01:15:39.680
<v Speaker 1>wrong here. I don't know. I'm not an expert in

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01:15:39.720 --> 01:15:43.600
<v Speaker 1>all things. I am of the opinion that America has

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01:15:43.680 --> 01:15:50.159
<v Speaker 1>done our best when the integration came into play. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I'm just completely off my rocker on

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01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:55.800
<v Speaker 1>that one. But ever since the Civil Rights Acts, and

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01:15:55.840 --> 01:15:58.520
<v Speaker 1>ever since the schools were integrated in all these things,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like we as a soil and culture have

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01:16:01.039 --> 01:16:03.880
<v Speaker 1>done better in certain regards and worse in certain regards.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm aware of this, But overall, I would say that

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01:16:06.720 --> 01:16:10.279
<v Speaker 1>we have advanced ourselves far and beyond our for lack

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01:16:10.279 --> 01:16:14.960
<v Speaker 1>of better words, competition nation, competition than any other. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying it's because of our what's the way

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01:16:18.359 --> 01:16:20.880
<v Speaker 1>that they were saying it's our differences that make us stronger.

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01:16:21.960 --> 01:16:23.399
<v Speaker 1>I think there's something to be said for that. But

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that trying to blend everybody together to

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01:16:26.840 --> 01:16:29.520
<v Speaker 1>get a unified American culture is the way that we

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01:16:29.560 --> 01:16:34.079
<v Speaker 1>should move forward. I don't know, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is assimilable today, Like even Muslims can be assimilated

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01:16:40.640 --> 01:16:45.279
<v Speaker 2>and people from I don't know, it's China and India

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01:16:45.399 --> 01:16:48.680
<v Speaker 2>that those I think India and Islam are the biggest,

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01:16:49.560 --> 01:16:52.520
<v Speaker 2>you know, hardest to assimilate that most people on the

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01:16:52.560 --> 01:16:53.640
<v Speaker 2>right consider today.

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<v Speaker 1>So they can assimilate, but they have to leave their

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01:16:56.960 --> 01:17:00.640
<v Speaker 1>cultures behind. When you get to America, you take on

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01:17:00.720 --> 01:17:04.560
<v Speaker 1>your American identity, You become a member of this nation.

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01:17:04.720 --> 01:17:07.239
<v Speaker 1>You don't try to make America like the country you

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01:17:07.399 --> 01:17:10.199
<v Speaker 1>just left. That's the only way that this culture can

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01:17:10.239 --> 01:17:12.000
<v Speaker 1>thrive and move forward. I'm not saying you need to

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01:17:12.079 --> 01:17:14.640
<v Speaker 1>leave your religious practice behind, or leave your language at home,

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01:17:14.720 --> 01:17:16.600
<v Speaker 1>or any of those types of things. That's fine. Be

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01:17:16.760 --> 01:17:19.000
<v Speaker 1>proud of who you are and what it took to

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01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:22.199
<v Speaker 1>get you here. But once you get here, work towards

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01:17:22.239 --> 01:17:25.199
<v Speaker 1>making your home country, which would be America at that point,

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01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:27.760
<v Speaker 1>a better country. Don't go out of your way to

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01:17:27.760 --> 01:17:30.600
<v Speaker 1>make America more like Mexico, or more like India, or

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01:17:30.640 --> 01:17:33.840
<v Speaker 1>more like wherever you That goes against the entire premise

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01:17:33.880 --> 01:17:38.079
<v Speaker 1>of coming here. That's my opinion. Anyway, I got a

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01:17:38.119 --> 01:17:40.760
<v Speaker 1>quick little video that's gonna break down jerrymandering a little

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01:17:40.760 --> 01:17:42.079
<v Speaker 1>bit better because I feel like I did a bad

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01:17:42.159 --> 01:17:44.760
<v Speaker 1>job explaining. Let's listen in, and this is essentially what

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<v Speaker 1>they are trying to do in Louisiana right now.

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<v Speaker 18>So you want to know what gerrymandering is. First, Let's

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01:17:50.800 --> 01:17:51.960
<v Speaker 18>start with government.

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<v Speaker 1>One oh one.

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<v Speaker 18>In the United States, each state elects a certain number

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<v Speaker 18>of representatives based on the state's population. The larger population,

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<v Speaker 18>the more representatives you have. Each representative represents a district

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01:18:04.359 --> 01:18:08.039
<v Speaker 18>or a geographical area, including its voters. Ideally, we want

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01:18:08.079 --> 01:18:10.600
<v Speaker 18>to have a range of representatives who reflect the political

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01:18:10.680 --> 01:18:13.359
<v Speaker 18>views of the population across the state. But how do

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01:18:13.399 --> 01:18:16.359
<v Speaker 18>we decide who gets to vote for each representative. Let's

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01:18:16.399 --> 01:18:19.199
<v Speaker 18>look at an example. Suppose we have a very tiny

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<v Speaker 18>state of fifty people. Thirty of them belong to the

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<v Speaker 18>Blue Party and twenty belong to the Red Party, and

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01:18:24.600 --> 01:18:26.760
<v Speaker 18>just our luck, they all live in a nice even grid,

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01:18:26.800 --> 01:18:29.039
<v Speaker 18>with Blues on one side of the state and Reds

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01:18:29.039 --> 01:18:31.439
<v Speaker 18>on the other. Now, let's say we need to divide

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01:18:31.479 --> 01:18:34.720
<v Speaker 18>the state into five districts. Each district will send one

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01:18:34.760 --> 01:18:38.920
<v Speaker 18>representative to the House to represent the people. Fortunately, because

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01:18:38.920 --> 01:18:41.720
<v Speaker 18>our citizens live in a neatly ordered grid, it's easy

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01:18:41.760 --> 01:18:44.640
<v Speaker 18>to draw five lengthy districts, two for the Reds and

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<v Speaker 18>three for the Blues. Voila perfectly proportional representation, just as

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<v Speaker 18>the founders intended.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, let's say instead that.

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<v Speaker 18>The Blue Party controls the state government and they get

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01:18:55.159 --> 01:18:58.840
<v Speaker 18>to decide how the lines are drawn. Rather than draw

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<v Speaker 18>districts of horizontals, they draw them vertically, so that in

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<v Speaker 18>each district there are six Blues and four Reds, with

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<v Speaker 18>a comfortable blue majority in the state. Each district elects

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<v Speaker 18>a Blue candidate to the House, the Blues win five

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01:19:12.399 --> 01:19:16.600
<v Speaker 18>seats and the Reds don't get a single one. Oh well, finally,

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01:19:16.680 --> 01:19:19.760
<v Speaker 18>what if the Red party controls the state government. The

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<v Speaker 18>Reds know they're at a numerical disadvantage, but with some

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01:19:23.039 --> 01:19:26.279
<v Speaker 18>creative boundary drawing, they can slice the Blue population up

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01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.079
<v Speaker 18>such that they only get a majority in two districts.

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01:19:29.239 --> 01:19:31.800
<v Speaker 18>So despite making up forty percent of the population, the

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<v Speaker 18>Reds win sixty percent of the seats.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that This.

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<v Speaker 18>Process of redrawing district lines to give an advantage to

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<v Speaker 18>one party over another is called jerrymandering, and it's nothing new.

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<v Speaker 18>The term jerrymander is named after early nineteenth century Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 18>governor Elbridge Jerry, who redrew the map of the Senate's

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<v Speaker 18>districts in eighteen ten in order to weaken the opposing

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01:19:52.279 --> 01:19:56.159
<v Speaker 18>Federalist Party. Our example is, of course a huge simplification.

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01:19:56.720 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 18>In the real world, people don't live in neatly ordered

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01:19:58.960 --> 01:20:02.279
<v Speaker 18>grids sorded by plays party. But for politicians looking to

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<v Speaker 18>give themselves an advantage at redistricting time, the process is

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<v Speaker 18>exactly the same and the consequences are very real. Jerrymandering

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01:20:09.960 --> 01:20:12.960
<v Speaker 18>is at least partly to blame for lopsided representation in

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01:20:13.039 --> 01:20:16.359
<v Speaker 18>the House seen in recent elections, and it's been argued

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01:20:16.359 --> 01:20:20.119
<v Speaker 18>by the President for political polarization since representatives don't have

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01:20:20.199 --> 01:20:24.720
<v Speaker 18>to compromise hardline views in order to win seats.

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<v Speaker 1>And there we have it. So I think you did

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<v Speaker 1>a way better job of explaining it than I did.

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<v Speaker 1>But so again, Jerry mannering is nothing new. Redrawing the

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01:20:33.520 --> 01:20:36.520
<v Speaker 1>maps are nothing new. But yeah, this is apparently what

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01:20:36.560 --> 01:20:38.760
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to go through in Louisiana, and the Supreme

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01:20:38.800 --> 01:20:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Court has to weigh in on it. And also for

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<v Speaker 1>the record, Tony, with the example that we gave earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as like foreign assimilation, I feel the same

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<v Speaker 1>way as far as like California transplants moving to Texas

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01:20:48.760 --> 01:20:52.039
<v Speaker 1>and trying to make Texas more like California. Like this

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<v Speaker 1>is right. I know. Wait, you're a California transplant.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I grew up in California until I was thirty

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01:20:58.640 --> 01:20:59.760
<v Speaker 2>one to move to Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>But do you vote like Californians or do you vote

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<v Speaker 1>to keep Texas like Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I've always voted to libertarian and Republican.

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<v Speaker 1>That's my point. You didn't come to California, or you

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01:21:09.640 --> 01:21:11.600
<v Speaker 1>didn't come to Texas trying to make it more like La.

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<v Speaker 1>You came knowing that Texas is Texas, and if you

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01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:16.720
<v Speaker 1>want to keep it that way, you have to vote

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<v Speaker 1>a certain way.

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<v Speaker 2>So okay, well I got one other thought here. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>California was more Republican when I was born than Texas

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01:21:24.800 --> 01:21:28.439
<v Speaker 2>is now. So Texas, unfortunately, as much as I love

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01:21:28.479 --> 01:21:32.159
<v Speaker 2>it and it's like the best state in so many ways,

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01:21:32.199 --> 01:21:35.319
<v Speaker 2>it's going to go the way California eventually. I hate

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01:21:35.319 --> 01:21:37.680
<v Speaker 2>to say it, but the whole US is a little

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01:21:37.720 --> 01:21:40.880
<v Speaker 2>screwed in that regard. Everything goes to the left with time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I hate to be, you know, so doom pilled

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01:21:43.279 --> 01:21:45.680
<v Speaker 2>on this, but I just that's the way I see

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01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:47.319
<v Speaker 2>things going eventually, and I hate it.

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01:21:47.560 --> 01:21:50.159
<v Speaker 1>I know, I know, and I don't like it either.

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01:21:51.000 --> 01:21:54.680
<v Speaker 1>And to your point, for the record, California is majority red,

1453
01:21:55.119 --> 01:21:58.239
<v Speaker 1>like hands down. But if you look at population density

1454
01:21:58.319 --> 01:22:02.119
<v Speaker 1>and the big cities and how those dishes have been jerrymandered,

1455
01:22:02.399 --> 01:22:06.079
<v Speaker 1>this that makes the state inherently blue. The vast majority

1456
01:22:06.119 --> 01:22:09.000
<v Speaker 1>of people that live in California are hard line Republicans.

1457
01:22:09.359 --> 01:22:12.279
<v Speaker 1>It's the big cities and the surrounding areas that make

1458
01:22:12.359 --> 01:22:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it the blue state that it is, and Texas is

1459
01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:17.399
<v Speaker 1>going through their own version of that right now. And

1460
01:22:17.520 --> 01:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>to that point, California and Texas just went through their

1461
01:22:20.880 --> 01:22:23.720
<v Speaker 1>own map redrawings last or this year, as a matter

1462
01:22:23.760 --> 01:22:26.199
<v Speaker 1>of fact, so it's it's just a mess.

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01:22:27.319 --> 01:22:30.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Territorially, California is definitely very red. When you look

1464
01:22:30.760 --> 01:22:33.199
<v Speaker 2>at the map, I'd say the population is more like

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01:22:33.439 --> 01:22:37.600
<v Speaker 2>sixty percent Democrats, so it is a pretty large majority Democrat.

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01:22:38.079 --> 01:22:41.319
<v Speaker 2>And yet that forty percent of Republicans is still so big.

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01:22:41.359 --> 01:22:44.159
<v Speaker 2>There's more Republicans in California than there are in Texas,

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01:22:44.640 --> 01:22:48.359
<v Speaker 2>because California's population is about forty million, Texas is about

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01:22:48.359 --> 01:22:53.439
<v Speaker 2>twenty five. Yeah, in Texas, unfortunately it's gone a little

1470
01:22:53.439 --> 01:22:59.000
<v Speaker 2>purple recently. But yeah, in California there's still a surprising

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01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.640
<v Speaker 2>number of Republicans that most people aren't aware of.

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<v Speaker 1>That's very true. It's very true. And again I'm hoping

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01:23:05.760 --> 01:23:08.640
<v Speaker 1>and praying to the Good Lord that Texas stays red.

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01:23:09.399 --> 01:23:11.800
<v Speaker 1>I agree with your statement, by the way, I don't

1475
01:23:11.800 --> 01:23:14.319
<v Speaker 1>want to be doom pilled. I want to get high

1476
01:23:14.359 --> 01:23:17.640
<v Speaker 1>on hopium over here. But at the same time, the

1477
01:23:17.720 --> 01:23:20.920
<v Speaker 1>facts of the facts, and if the trajectory that they

1478
01:23:20.920 --> 01:23:23.319
<v Speaker 1>have been on for the last few years continues down

1479
01:23:23.359 --> 01:23:26.079
<v Speaker 1>that way, it's only a matter of time. Texas was

1480
01:23:26.279 --> 01:23:28.840
<v Speaker 1>way more purple in the last elections than I think

1481
01:23:28.840 --> 01:23:32.199
<v Speaker 1>we've ever seen in our lifetime. Given another twenty years,

1482
01:23:32.600 --> 01:23:37.119
<v Speaker 1>thirty maybe and Texas might very well become a blue

1483
01:23:37.159 --> 01:23:40.279
<v Speaker 1>state and it will be a sad day. But anyway,

1484
01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:44.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, moving on from the conversation about politics, kind

1485
01:23:44.920 --> 01:23:48.840
<v Speaker 1>of but still in line with administrational changes and things.

1486
01:23:49.560 --> 01:23:52.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know who's heard about this, but apparently there

1487
01:23:52.079 --> 01:23:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is about to be a Katari Air Force base built

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01:23:55.079 --> 01:23:59.680
<v Speaker 1>in Idaho. Now let's break this down because we're hearing

1489
01:23:59.680 --> 01:24:02.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot of conflicting reports here. There are some that

1490
01:24:02.199 --> 01:24:04.880
<v Speaker 1>are saying that it is going to be an American

1491
01:24:05.000 --> 01:24:08.399
<v Speaker 1>Air Force base that is used primarily to cross train

1492
01:24:08.520 --> 01:24:11.479
<v Speaker 1>kataripilots or cutter. I keep hearing that use that way

1493
01:24:11.680 --> 01:24:14.840
<v Speaker 1>whatever Katari pilots on the I think it's the F

1494
01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:17.720
<v Speaker 1>fifteen platform, which is what they primarily use over there,

1495
01:24:17.760 --> 01:24:20.720
<v Speaker 1>which is fine, is a great training jet. And so

1496
01:24:20.920 --> 01:24:22.479
<v Speaker 1>this base is going to be kind of seen as

1497
01:24:22.479 --> 01:24:27.520
<v Speaker 1>a joint force base for our international allies. But it's

1498
01:24:27.560 --> 01:24:30.119
<v Speaker 1>going to be a US Air Force base. Then there

1499
01:24:30.199 --> 01:24:33.000
<v Speaker 1>are others that are saying Katar is going to own

1500
01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:35.640
<v Speaker 1>the land itself, that this is on and they're going

1501
01:24:35.680 --> 01:24:40.159
<v Speaker 1>to have Katari troops stationed there year round. And we

1502
01:24:40.239 --> 01:24:43.520
<v Speaker 1>now have a foreign government with a military base on

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01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:50.199
<v Speaker 1>US soil, which is mind blowing that. Let's get into

1504
01:24:50.199 --> 01:24:54.159
<v Speaker 1>the article here. This is from Air Force Times dot com.

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01:24:54.840 --> 01:24:56.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's hear what the Secretary of War has to say

1506
01:24:56.840 --> 01:25:00.800
<v Speaker 1>on this. The War secretary that keep saying to Secretary,

1507
01:25:00.920 --> 01:25:02.800
<v Speaker 1>I swear to God. It's like these people can't read.

1508
01:25:03.279 --> 01:25:06.279
<v Speaker 1>The War Secretary's announcement that the United States would allow

1509
01:25:06.359 --> 01:25:09.560
<v Speaker 1>Qatar to build an air Force facility in Idaho was

1510
01:25:09.680 --> 01:25:13.119
<v Speaker 1>in the works for years, and mirrors accommodations made for

1511
01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:16.159
<v Speaker 1>a handful of other allies in the country. A US

1512
01:25:16.199 --> 01:25:21.079
<v Speaker 1>Air Force spokesperson told The Military Times on Tuesday, again,

1513
01:25:21.159 --> 01:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>not Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth. War Secretary Pete Hegseth said

1514
01:25:25.600 --> 01:25:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Friday during a meeting that the Pentagon, or at the

1515
01:25:28.840 --> 01:25:34.840
<v Speaker 1>Pentagon with his Katari counterpart, sowed then obdural Abdul Rahman

1516
01:25:35.439 --> 01:25:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Althani good Lord, that Mountain Home Air Force Base will

1517
01:25:40.079 --> 01:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>host a contingent of Katari F fifteens and pilots to

1518
01:25:43.640 --> 01:25:49.880
<v Speaker 1>enhance our combined training and increase lethality interoperationally. After criticism

1519
01:25:49.920 --> 01:25:54.119
<v Speaker 1>from prominent figures in the GOP's magabase, including right wing

1520
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:59.760
<v Speaker 1>personality Laura Lumer, which I'm sorry, I am not a

1521
01:25:59.760 --> 01:26:05.680
<v Speaker 1>fan of Laura Lumer even a little bit. God, I'm

1522
01:26:05.680 --> 01:26:09.000
<v Speaker 1>gonna go on a quick side tangent about this human being.

1523
01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.880
<v Speaker 1>She is essentially a conservative. I'm gonna call her a

1524
01:26:14.920 --> 01:26:18.520
<v Speaker 1>content creator, and I mean that in a very demeaning way.

1525
01:26:19.560 --> 01:26:21.880
<v Speaker 1>And she is also one of these people that has

1526
01:26:21.920 --> 01:26:24.720
<v Speaker 1>Trump derangement syndrome on the other side of it, to

1527
01:26:24.760 --> 01:26:27.279
<v Speaker 1>think that everything that Trump says is as if it's

1528
01:26:27.319 --> 01:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>the word of God himself. Okay, that being said, there's

1529
01:26:31.960 --> 01:26:36.760
<v Speaker 1>a Medal of Honor recipient that is a Democrat, and

1530
01:26:36.800 --> 01:26:42.039
<v Speaker 1>that's fine. Uh, she basically went on this whole spree

1531
01:26:42.079 --> 01:26:47.319
<v Speaker 1>of shitting on this guy and calling his service essentially bullshit.

1532
01:26:49.479 --> 01:26:52.920
<v Speaker 1>Keep in mind, he is awarded the Medal of Honor

1533
01:26:53.560 --> 01:26:57.359
<v Speaker 1>for some gangster shit that he did overseas for our country.

1534
01:26:58.039 --> 01:27:01.279
<v Speaker 1>But because he's listed as a Democrat, she decided to

1535
01:27:01.279 --> 01:27:05.359
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and try to take shots at this guy

1536
01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:09.880
<v Speaker 1>so on behalf of anybody that actually gives a fuck.

1537
01:27:10.560 --> 01:27:14.439
<v Speaker 1>Fuck Laura Lumer. Just so we're all clear, moving on,

1538
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:20.279
<v Speaker 1>including right wing personality Laura Lumer. Qatar's media attache in

1539
01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>the United States later clarified that a standalone Katari air

1540
01:27:23.800 --> 01:27:27.119
<v Speaker 1>base will not exist, reiterating that Qatar will have a

1541
01:27:27.159 --> 01:27:31.840
<v Speaker 1>facility at an existing US base. US Air Force spokesperson

1542
01:27:31.880 --> 01:27:35.239
<v Speaker 1>and Stephanick hope I pronounced that one right said that

1543
01:27:35.279 --> 01:27:38.239
<v Speaker 1>the service notified Congress about its intent to make a

1544
01:27:38.319 --> 01:27:42.760
<v Speaker 1>foreign military sale to Qatar in twenty seventeen, during President

1545
01:27:42.800 --> 01:27:46.560
<v Speaker 1>Trump's first term. An environmental assessment was made in twenty

1546
01:27:46.640 --> 01:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>twenty two at Mountain Home Air Force Base, where Singapore

1547
01:27:50.439 --> 01:27:53.920
<v Speaker 1>already has an F fifteen training facility that was established

1548
01:27:53.920 --> 01:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and nine. Stephanick added Mountain Home is

1549
01:27:57.399 --> 01:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>not only is not the only air Force base in

1550
01:27:59.600 --> 01:28:03.439
<v Speaker 1>America or on American soil with facilities owned and operated

1551
01:28:03.439 --> 01:28:07.560
<v Speaker 1>by foreign allies. The EUNATO Joint Jet Pilot Pro Training

1552
01:28:07.600 --> 01:28:11.880
<v Speaker 1>Program in Shepherd Air Force Base in Texas hosts allies

1553
01:28:11.920 --> 01:28:16.199
<v Speaker 1>including Germany, Italy, Norway, and the Netherlands. Singapore is another

1554
01:28:16.239 --> 01:28:19.439
<v Speaker 1>facility on Luke Air Force base in Arizona that will

1555
01:28:19.479 --> 01:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>soon move to Ebbing Air National Guard Base in Arkansas.

1556
01:28:22.760 --> 01:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>According to the US Air Force, they paid for it,

1557
01:28:25.479 --> 01:28:28.840
<v Speaker 1>and we build it and secure it. Stepanek said. Military

1558
01:28:28.920 --> 01:28:32.239
<v Speaker 1>leaders hailed a ribbon cutting for the new facility at

1559
01:28:32.279 --> 01:28:35.479
<v Speaker 1>Ebbing in September of twenty twenty four. The Air National

1560
01:28:35.520 --> 01:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Form military sale of F thirty five pilot training center

1561
01:28:38.640 --> 01:28:42.920
<v Speaker 1>is being funded and occupied by allies including Poland, Finland, Singapore,

1562
01:28:42.960 --> 01:28:46.600
<v Speaker 1>and Germany, with Poland graduating its first pilots from the

1563
01:28:46.600 --> 01:28:49.760
<v Speaker 1>training center in May of this year. City and local

1564
01:28:49.800 --> 01:28:53.720
<v Speaker 1>military officials in Mountain Home, Idaho holiday news conference Tuesday

1565
01:28:53.760 --> 01:28:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to address questions about last week's announcement of a new

1566
01:28:56.720 --> 01:29:01.319
<v Speaker 1>katar Amiri Air Force training facility at the nearby base.

1567
01:29:02.319 --> 01:29:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Direct quote here, I think the keyword here is hosting.

1568
01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:09.760
<v Speaker 1>We are excited to host the Katari's and partner with

1569
01:29:09.840 --> 01:29:13.239
<v Speaker 1>the Mountain Home Air Force Base. Colonel Michael A. Perez,

1570
01:29:13.319 --> 01:29:16.439
<v Speaker 1>commander of the three hundred and sixty six Maintenance Group

1571
01:29:16.520 --> 01:29:19.319
<v Speaker 1>at the base, tot reporters. This is nothing new. This

1572
01:29:19.399 --> 01:29:22.039
<v Speaker 1>has been in the works as far back as twenty seventeen.

1573
01:29:22.439 --> 01:29:26.399
<v Speaker 1>City representatives and US military officials visit Qatar on in

1574
01:29:26.439 --> 01:29:29.239
<v Speaker 1>May Rather in twenty twenty three to discuss the Katari

1575
01:29:29.279 --> 01:29:34.800
<v Speaker 1>Air Force's needs and expectations. Mountain Home Mayor Rich Sykes said, so,

1576
01:29:35.600 --> 01:29:37.840
<v Speaker 1>to put it to rest here, Qatar is not going

1577
01:29:37.880 --> 01:29:41.680
<v Speaker 1>to own a base in the United States. They are

1578
01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:45.520
<v Speaker 1>going to own a building at a United States Air

1579
01:29:45.520 --> 01:29:49.399
<v Speaker 1>Force owned facility. And again this is not like it's crazy.

1580
01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>We have had multiple countries do very similar things. And

1581
01:29:53.880 --> 01:29:58.319
<v Speaker 1>you know, Qatar is an ally of ours. I mean, yes,

1582
01:29:58.359 --> 01:30:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I understand that people are gonna throw shades their way

1583
01:30:00.239 --> 01:30:02.840
<v Speaker 1>because they're a Muslim country. I get it. Okay, fine, fine,

1584
01:30:02.880 --> 01:30:07.520
<v Speaker 1>have your opinions on this, But Qatar is a homie.

1585
01:30:07.640 --> 01:30:11.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, they already have Patriot missile systems there. That

1586
01:30:11.239 --> 01:30:13.960
<v Speaker 1>was a whole thing we talked about whenever the Iran

1587
01:30:14.279 --> 01:30:18.079
<v Speaker 1>strikes happened on their nuclear facilities. Iran started firing at Katar.

1588
01:30:19.479 --> 01:30:23.079
<v Speaker 1>It's not this is an ally of ours. So I

1589
01:30:23.119 --> 01:30:25.720
<v Speaker 1>see the need for some cross training, especially when it

1590
01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:27.760
<v Speaker 1>comes to some of our more high tech platforms, like

1591
01:30:27.800 --> 01:30:30.239
<v Speaker 1>the F thirty fives that is going out like hotcakes

1592
01:30:30.279 --> 01:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>right now. America just gave the designation to Lockheed Martin

1593
01:30:34.560 --> 01:30:38.880
<v Speaker 1>to build two hundred and ninety six more f thirty fives.

1594
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:42.279
<v Speaker 1>So with that being said, some cross training with our

1595
01:30:42.319 --> 01:30:45.119
<v Speaker 1>allies I think is not necessarily a negative thing. However,

1596
01:30:45.199 --> 01:30:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I completely understand people having a little bit of hesitancy

1597
01:30:49.079 --> 01:30:52.159
<v Speaker 1>towards the conversation. But let's get into it here. It's

1598
01:30:52.359 --> 01:30:56.159
<v Speaker 1>this is from KGW News as headlines swirl. Qatar won't

1599
01:30:56.199 --> 01:31:00.640
<v Speaker 1>have separate military bases in Idaho. Let's listen in that a.

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01:31:00.600 --> 01:31:03.800
<v Speaker 19>Foreign country could soon have a military base right here

1601
01:31:03.840 --> 01:31:07.760
<v Speaker 19>in the northwest in Idaho, about fifty miles southeast of Boise.

1602
01:31:08.039 --> 01:31:12.199
<v Speaker 19>Secretary Pete Hegseth made the announcement Friday alongside leadership of

1603
01:31:12.239 --> 01:31:15.239
<v Speaker 19>the Middle Eastern country we're talking about here, Qatar.

1604
01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:18.880
<v Speaker 20>Today, we're announcing or signing a letter of acceptance to

1605
01:31:18.920 --> 01:31:23.560
<v Speaker 20>build a Katari Emi Air Force facility at the Mountain Home.

1606
01:31:23.359 --> 01:31:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Air Base in Idaho. Location will be host.

1607
01:31:27.680 --> 01:31:31.399
<v Speaker 20>To contingent of Katari F fifteen's and pilots to enhance

1608
01:31:31.439 --> 01:31:36.000
<v Speaker 20>our combined training, increase lethality, interoperability. Is just another example

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01:31:36.520 --> 01:31:37.720
<v Speaker 20>of our partnership.

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01:31:38.920 --> 01:31:39.039
<v Speaker 10>Now.

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01:31:39.079 --> 01:31:41.439
<v Speaker 19>Of course, in the wake of that announcement, social media

1612
01:31:41.640 --> 01:31:44.720
<v Speaker 19>was ablaze with reaction from both sides of the aisle,

1613
01:31:45.079 --> 01:31:47.960
<v Speaker 19>and while the announcement appears to mark the first time

1614
01:31:48.000 --> 01:31:50.600
<v Speaker 19>a foreign country will have its own base on US soil,

1615
01:31:50.960 --> 01:31:53.840
<v Speaker 19>there's a lot of context missing if you only hear

1616
01:31:53.880 --> 01:31:56.279
<v Speaker 19>that part and not the rest of the story. So

1617
01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:59.920
<v Speaker 19>let's dive in. Qatar will not have its own separate base.

1618
01:32:00.119 --> 01:32:03.000
<v Speaker 19>It will be a group of buildings to handle training

1619
01:32:03.039 --> 01:32:06.439
<v Speaker 19>and maintenance for Katari troops at the US Air Force

1620
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:10.520
<v Speaker 19>Mountain home Base. A US Air Force spokesperson says security

1621
01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:12.960
<v Speaker 19>at the base itself will continue to be handled by

1622
01:32:13.079 --> 01:32:17.279
<v Speaker 19>US forces, requiring proper credentials to enter and things like that.

1623
01:32:17.720 --> 01:32:20.439
<v Speaker 19>In fact, that same base in Idaho has hosted a

1624
01:32:20.479 --> 01:32:24.199
<v Speaker 19>squadron of fighter jets from Singapore since two thousand and eight.

1625
01:32:24.760 --> 01:32:28.439
<v Speaker 19>Secretary Hegseth even posted on social media Friday night, writing,

1626
01:32:28.479 --> 01:32:31.199
<v Speaker 19>in part, to be clear, Qatar will not have their

1627
01:32:31.199 --> 01:32:34.199
<v Speaker 19>own base in the United States, nor anything like a base.

1628
01:32:34.600 --> 01:32:37.720
<v Speaker 19>We control the existing base like we do with all partners.

1629
01:32:38.239 --> 01:32:40.880
<v Speaker 19>It's also worth noting this agreement with Qatar has been

1630
01:32:40.920 --> 01:32:43.920
<v Speaker 19>in the works for several years. The country decided to

1631
01:32:43.960 --> 01:32:46.920
<v Speaker 19>buy the fighter jets from a US government program called

1632
01:32:47.000 --> 01:32:50.840
<v Speaker 19>Foreign Military Sales back in twenty seventeen. The US Air

1633
01:32:50.880 --> 01:32:54.359
<v Speaker 19>Force says discussions to train Katari troops on those jets

1634
01:32:54.760 --> 01:32:58.520
<v Speaker 19>began shortly thereafter, around twenty twenty, work began on an

1635
01:32:58.560 --> 01:33:01.680
<v Speaker 19>environmental assessment to look it impacts to the area for

1636
01:33:01.760 --> 01:33:05.960
<v Speaker 19>Qatari facilities, and that assessment was completed in twenty twenty two.

1637
01:33:06.359 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 19>That's what you're looking at here. And on the flip side,

1638
01:33:09.199 --> 01:33:12.199
<v Speaker 19>Katar hosts a US air base in the Middle East

1639
01:33:12.239 --> 01:33:15.760
<v Speaker 19>with roughly ten thousand American troops. So that's more of

1640
01:33:15.800 --> 01:33:19.159
<v Speaker 19>the background leading up to Friday's announcement. But there's been

1641
01:33:19.199 --> 01:33:23.199
<v Speaker 19>movement recently between the countries as well. Two weeks ago,

1642
01:33:23.199 --> 01:33:27.960
<v Speaker 19>President Trump signed an executive order guaranteeing the security security

1643
01:33:27.960 --> 01:33:31.439
<v Speaker 19>of Qatar, which is not a member of NATO. Shortly

1644
01:33:31.479 --> 01:33:34.560
<v Speaker 19>after that, the Israeli government and Hamas agreed to a

1645
01:33:34.600 --> 01:33:38.000
<v Speaker 19>peace deal, which Qatar was involved with. But why allow

1646
01:33:38.079 --> 01:33:40.840
<v Speaker 19>Qatar to have a military presence in the US. It's

1647
01:33:40.880 --> 01:33:43.800
<v Speaker 19>a thorny issue, no doubt. Qatar has been accused of

1648
01:33:43.880 --> 01:33:47.279
<v Speaker 19>financing terrorist organizations and has played both sides of the

1649
01:33:47.279 --> 01:33:49.479
<v Speaker 19>fence when it comes to Israel and Jamas. But as

1650
01:33:49.840 --> 01:33:53.039
<v Speaker 19>many of you remember, the news of these Katari facilities

1651
01:33:53.039 --> 01:33:56.319
<v Speaker 19>in the US is not the first flight related news

1652
01:33:56.800 --> 01:34:00.000
<v Speaker 19>involving the country and the current administration. In the White House,

1653
01:34:00.439 --> 01:34:03.800
<v Speaker 19>Cutter asked for anything in exchange for that four hundred

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01:34:03.920 --> 01:34:07.760
<v Speaker 19>million dollar luxury jumbo jet, and how can the American

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01:34:07.760 --> 01:34:09.319
<v Speaker 19>people be so sure that they will.

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01:34:09.159 --> 01:34:09.880
<v Speaker 1>Not in the future.

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01:34:10.000 --> 01:34:12.239
<v Speaker 14>Well, I think what happens with the plane is that,

1658
01:34:12.359 --> 01:34:14.760
<v Speaker 14>you know, we're very disappointed that it's taken Boeing so

1659
01:34:14.880 --> 01:34:16.560
<v Speaker 14>long to build a new air Force one. You know,

1660
01:34:16.600 --> 01:34:18.439
<v Speaker 14>we have an air Force one that's forty years old.

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01:34:18.720 --> 01:34:19.319
<v Speaker 1>I have a lot of.

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01:34:19.239 --> 01:34:22.600
<v Speaker 14>Respect for the leadership and for the leader guitar, and

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01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:24.560
<v Speaker 14>I think they very nice. They knew about it because

1664
01:34:24.560 --> 01:34:27.720
<v Speaker 14>they buy Boeings. They buy a lot of Boeings, and

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01:34:27.760 --> 01:34:30.880
<v Speaker 14>they knew about it, and they said, we would like

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01:34:30.960 --> 01:34:34.319
<v Speaker 14>to do something, and if we can get a seven

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01:34:34.479 --> 01:34:39.159
<v Speaker 14>forty seven as a contribution to our defense department to

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01:34:39.359 --> 01:34:42.920
<v Speaker 14>use during a couple of years while they're building the

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01:34:42.960 --> 01:34:46.479
<v Speaker 14>other ones. I think that was a very nice gesture. Now,

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01:34:47.079 --> 01:34:48.920
<v Speaker 14>I could be a stupid person to say, oh, no,

1671
01:34:48.960 --> 01:34:51.279
<v Speaker 14>we don't want a free plane. We give free things

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01:34:51.279 --> 01:34:53.760
<v Speaker 14>that we'll take one too. And I think this was

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01:34:53.880 --> 01:34:55.319
<v Speaker 14>just a gesture of good faith.

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01:34:57.159 --> 01:34:59.720
<v Speaker 19>Back in May the Defense Department announced it as officially

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01:35:00.000 --> 01:35:03.479
<v Speaker 19>accepted that luxury jet from Qatar to use as the

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01:35:03.560 --> 01:35:07.159
<v Speaker 19>new Air Force One. The gift drew concerns from lawmakers

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01:35:07.159 --> 01:35:09.760
<v Speaker 19>in both parties, but that did nothing to stop the

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01:35:09.800 --> 01:35:13.560
<v Speaker 19>plane's delivery. Also worth noting, a Trump branded golf course

1679
01:35:13.720 --> 01:35:17.960
<v Speaker 19>is being developed in Qatar, so that can't really be

1680
01:35:18.000 --> 01:35:22.359
<v Speaker 19>ignored here either, as the Trump Organization's business deals with

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01:35:22.520 --> 01:35:26.119
<v Speaker 19>foreign governments with President Trump still in office have generated

1682
01:35:26.199 --> 01:35:29.239
<v Speaker 19>questions as well. But back to the original headline here,

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01:35:29.319 --> 01:35:32.479
<v Speaker 19>a foreign country building a military base on US soil.

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01:35:32.960 --> 01:35:35.560
<v Speaker 19>Qatar will not have its own base, but it will

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01:35:35.600 --> 01:35:38.039
<v Speaker 19>have its own facilities as part of a US Air

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01:35:38.079 --> 01:35:38.720
<v Speaker 19>Force base.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so there we go a little bit more in

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01:35:42.159 --> 01:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>depth on this. And yes, it is worth noting that

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01:35:45.680 --> 01:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>Qatar just donated the new Air Force one to Trump.

1690
01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:54.479
<v Speaker 1>It's a very lavish, expensive gift. Perhaps that was something

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01:35:54.560 --> 01:35:56.960
<v Speaker 1>to be said. As far as greasing the wheels goes

1692
01:35:57.439 --> 01:36:01.119
<v Speaker 1>with this new military joint venture, I don't know that

1693
01:36:01.199 --> 01:36:04.359
<v Speaker 1>for a fact, but it makes sense on paper. But again,

1694
01:36:05.079 --> 01:36:07.800
<v Speaker 1>this is not unprecedented. There are multiple countries that are

1695
01:36:07.840 --> 01:36:10.399
<v Speaker 1>allies of ours that have done very similar things. Now,

1696
01:36:10.880 --> 01:36:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Qatar is an interesting case because they have been seen

1697
01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>as riding the fence when it comes to for instance, Gaza,

1698
01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:21.199
<v Speaker 1>and there is a couple of claims that have been

1699
01:36:21.199 --> 01:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>made about them funding and supporting terrorist organizations. Then also

1700
01:36:25.920 --> 01:36:28.840
<v Speaker 1>they have a lot of a military personnel from the

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01:36:28.960 --> 01:36:31.159
<v Speaker 1>United States station there. We have a base in Qatar,

1702
01:36:31.920 --> 01:36:37.319
<v Speaker 1>so kind of interesting. I understand people's hesitation, I really do,

1703
01:36:37.479 --> 01:36:39.680
<v Speaker 1>and I'm not saying it's not you know, it's not unfounded.

1704
01:36:40.439 --> 01:36:42.239
<v Speaker 1>But I also am of the belief that when you

1705
01:36:42.279 --> 01:36:45.560
<v Speaker 1>look at the amount of Katari money that is being

1706
01:36:45.600 --> 01:36:48.319
<v Speaker 1>spent on US politicians right now, not just the air

1707
01:36:48.359 --> 01:36:54.000
<v Speaker 1>Force one gift, I mean legislators, congressmen, senators, all of

1708
01:36:54.039 --> 01:36:57.119
<v Speaker 1>these people, representatives, A lot of people want to draw

1709
01:36:57.159 --> 01:37:00.600
<v Speaker 1>comparisons about or or at least draw attention to Ape

1710
01:37:00.720 --> 01:37:04.439
<v Speaker 1>and sure we should do that. Qatar is out spending

1711
01:37:04.520 --> 01:37:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Israel right now by leaps and bounds. As far as

1712
01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:11.359
<v Speaker 1>buying American politicians, I feel like that also might have

1713
01:37:11.439 --> 01:37:13.600
<v Speaker 1>something to do with the greasing of the wheels to

1714
01:37:13.600 --> 01:37:17.920
<v Speaker 1>get this pushed through. Anyway, moving on, while we're still

1715
01:37:17.920 --> 01:37:21.920
<v Speaker 1>talking about aircraft and bases and things, and we're not

1716
01:37:21.920 --> 01:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna spend too much time on this. But did anybody

1717
01:37:24.640 --> 01:37:28.479
<v Speaker 1>hear about the mysterious aircraft crash near Area fifty one

1718
01:37:28.880 --> 01:37:33.800
<v Speaker 1>in October of this year? Now, well, let's learn about

1719
01:37:33.800 --> 01:37:37.359
<v Speaker 1>it together. Mysterious aircraft crash near Area fifty one just

1720
01:37:37.399 --> 01:37:40.720
<v Speaker 1>got weirder. The incident in the Nevada Desert prompted flight

1721
01:37:40.800 --> 01:37:43.840
<v Speaker 1>restrictions over the crash site, and now a joint investigation

1722
01:37:43.960 --> 01:37:47.640
<v Speaker 1>with the FBI. This article was published October sixth of

1723
01:37:47.680 --> 01:37:51.520
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five. Let's get into it here. Details are

1724
01:37:51.520 --> 01:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>man scant about an unspecified US Air Force aircraft widely

1725
01:37:55.920 --> 01:37:58.720
<v Speaker 1>believed to be a drone of some kind, which came

1726
01:37:58.760 --> 01:38:01.359
<v Speaker 1>down in southern Nevada not far from Area fifty one

1727
01:38:01.600 --> 01:38:04.840
<v Speaker 1>nearly two weeks ago. Whether the aircraft was ever actually

1728
01:38:04.840 --> 01:38:08.279
<v Speaker 1>inside Area fifty one's highly restricted airspace, also known as

1729
01:38:08.479 --> 01:38:12.479
<v Speaker 1>the Box, is unknown. The mishap prompted authorities to temporarily

1730
01:38:12.520 --> 01:38:15.279
<v Speaker 1>close the airspace above the crash site with some exemptions,

1731
01:38:15.520 --> 01:38:18.199
<v Speaker 1>while the wreckage was cleared. In a bizarre twist of events,

1732
01:38:18.199 --> 01:38:20.920
<v Speaker 1>the US Air Force has publicly disclosed that it and

1733
01:38:21.039 --> 01:38:25.319
<v Speaker 1>the FBI are now investigating apparent strange tamperings at the

1734
01:38:25.399 --> 01:38:29.279
<v Speaker 1>crash site afterwards. This crash happened on September twenty third.

1735
01:38:29.399 --> 01:38:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Let's get into it. On September twenty third, twenty twenty five,

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01:38:31.840 --> 01:38:34.640
<v Speaker 1>an aircraft assigned to the four hundred and thirty second

1737
01:38:34.680 --> 01:38:37.439
<v Speaker 1>Air Wing was involved in an incident with no fatalities

1738
01:38:37.560 --> 01:38:40.840
<v Speaker 1>or injuries, the wings public affairs officers released in the

1739
01:38:40.920 --> 01:38:44.600
<v Speaker 1>statement regarding the incident on October fourth. The site was

1740
01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:47.560
<v Speaker 1>secured and guarded until recovery and clean up operations were

1741
01:38:47.560 --> 01:38:52.600
<v Speaker 1>completed on September twenty second. Excuse me, twenty seventh. The

1742
01:38:52.680 --> 01:38:55.760
<v Speaker 1>four hundred and thirty second Wing is headquartered at Creech

1743
01:38:55.880 --> 01:38:59.119
<v Speaker 1>Air Force Base. The flying squadron assigned to the four

1744
01:38:59.119 --> 01:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>to thirty second are primarily equipped with MQ nine Reaper drones,

1745
01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:05.960
<v Speaker 1>but this is not the only type of aircraft the

1746
01:39:05.960 --> 01:39:08.640
<v Speaker 1>wing operates, as we will come to learn later on.

1747
01:39:08.960 --> 01:39:10.840
<v Speaker 1>This is a picture of the MQ nine Reaper, by

1748
01:39:10.840 --> 01:39:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the way. During a follow on site survey on October third,

1749
01:39:15.039 --> 01:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>investigators discovered signs of tampering at the mishap location, including

1750
01:39:19.680 --> 01:39:22.720
<v Speaker 1>the presence of an inert training bomb body and an

1751
01:39:22.760 --> 01:39:25.960
<v Speaker 1>aircraft panel of unknown origin that were placed on the

1752
01:39:26.039 --> 01:39:30.520
<v Speaker 1>site post incident. The release put out this past weekend.

1753
01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>At it the matter is under investigation by the Air

1754
01:39:33.279 --> 01:39:38.199
<v Speaker 1>Force and special investigations in the FBI. No further details

1755
01:39:38.239 --> 01:39:42.119
<v Speaker 1>are available at this time. So again they go more

1756
01:39:42.159 --> 01:39:44.039
<v Speaker 1>in depth with it all, and I feel like we

1757
01:39:44.119 --> 01:39:47.119
<v Speaker 1>might even make a cult conspiracy episode talking about this event.

1758
01:39:47.640 --> 01:39:49.800
<v Speaker 1>But I just wanted to make a mention of this. No,

1759
01:39:49.840 --> 01:39:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying this was alien craft. I'm also not

1760
01:39:52.960 --> 01:39:56.640
<v Speaker 1>not saying it, but it's interesting that there is yet

1761
01:39:56.640 --> 01:40:02.239
<v Speaker 1>another random, crazy, questionable crack near Area fifty one in Nevada.

1762
01:40:02.399 --> 01:40:03.720
<v Speaker 1>So I just thought it would be fun to bring

1763
01:40:03.760 --> 01:40:05.880
<v Speaker 1>that up to kind of break up the the more

1764
01:40:05.920 --> 01:40:09.279
<v Speaker 1>negative conversations that we are having. Now, there is a

1765
01:40:09.399 --> 01:40:12.720
<v Speaker 1>video that has been making its way around the interwebs.

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01:40:13.159 --> 01:40:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Hamas gunman are carrying out public executions right now. This

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01:40:17.399 --> 01:40:21.039
<v Speaker 1>ties into Hamas carrying out public executions of one hundreds

1768
01:40:21.119 --> 01:40:25.039
<v Speaker 1>of victims last week. But let's talk about it a

1769
01:40:25.079 --> 01:40:28.640
<v Speaker 1>little more in depth, because out loud that sounds wild.

1770
01:40:28.920 --> 01:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's learn about this. We're gonna listen to Sky News

1771
01:40:31.560 --> 01:40:33.640
<v Speaker 1>Australia just for a few minutes of this, and then

1772
01:40:33.640 --> 01:40:36.039
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get into some articles breaking down what this

1773
01:40:36.279 --> 01:40:39.680
<v Speaker 1>is and why these executions are taking place. Let's learn together.

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01:40:40.560 --> 01:40:44.079
<v Speaker 21>A graphic video has shown Hamas fighters conducting a public

1775
01:40:44.119 --> 01:40:48.840
<v Speaker 21>execution of alleged Israeli collaborators. The footage here shows Hamas

1776
01:40:48.840 --> 01:40:51.600
<v Speaker 21>gunman lining up seven men in a public square and

1777
01:40:51.640 --> 01:40:56.760
<v Speaker 21>shooting them from behind. Hamas confirmed the authenticity of the video.

1778
01:40:57.079 --> 01:40:59.000
<v Speaker 1>The group told Reuters they.

1779
01:40:58.920 --> 01:41:03.079
<v Speaker 21>Will not be tolerated any violations of ordering. Gaza Palestinian

1780
01:41:03.119 --> 01:41:05.760
<v Speaker 21>security sources say dozens of people have been killed and

1781
01:41:05.840 --> 01:41:10.640
<v Speaker 21>clashes between Hamas fighters and rival tribal groups in recent days.

1782
01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:13.880
<v Speaker 22>It depends on what level you want to go down to.

1783
01:41:14.000 --> 01:41:18.399
<v Speaker 22>But you know you've got Hamas and allied groups who are,

1784
01:41:18.520 --> 01:41:22.359
<v Speaker 22>if you like, of an Islamist stamp. You've also got

1785
01:41:22.439 --> 01:41:29.920
<v Speaker 22>non Islamist, hardline Palestinians who reject any accommodation with Israel.

1786
01:41:31.039 --> 01:41:33.479
<v Speaker 22>And then you've got some groups who are not allied

1787
01:41:33.520 --> 01:41:38.560
<v Speaker 22>with Hamas. And then you've got clans and families. In

1788
01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:42.199
<v Speaker 22>many cases those people are against Hamas as well.

1789
01:41:42.640 --> 01:41:44.479
<v Speaker 21>So what you got there is a power vacuum. We've

1790
01:41:44.479 --> 01:41:47.079
<v Speaker 21>seen this before. Joining us live on our Wednesday morning

1791
01:41:47.159 --> 01:41:49.920
<v Speaker 21>is our panel with two men with experience in intelligence

1792
01:41:49.920 --> 01:41:53.600
<v Speaker 21>communities in ca Labor MP Julian here, Liberal MP Philip Thompson.

1793
01:41:53.640 --> 01:41:55.880
<v Speaker 21>Good morning to you both. So, Julian, I'll start with

1794
01:41:55.920 --> 01:41:59.119
<v Speaker 21>you here. How concerned are you about a war if

1795
01:41:59.159 --> 01:41:59.960
<v Speaker 21>you like within.

1796
01:41:59.800 --> 01:42:04.880
<v Speaker 23>A war, war, a war within a war, pain, a.

1797
01:42:04.760 --> 01:42:06.720
<v Speaker 21>War within a war. You've got a war within a

1798
01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:08.119
<v Speaker 21>war if you want me to spell it out. You've

1799
01:42:08.159 --> 01:42:12.920
<v Speaker 21>got a small kind of civil war between these rival

1800
01:42:12.960 --> 01:42:16.880
<v Speaker 21>groups in Gaza, now that small picture, while you've got

1801
01:42:17.079 --> 01:42:20.359
<v Speaker 21>the bigger war which Donald Trump now has conceded.

1802
01:42:20.479 --> 01:42:23.520
<v Speaker 23>Is over happy to comment on that. I thought you're

1803
01:42:23.560 --> 01:42:25.760
<v Speaker 23>talking about the Coalition and the Liberal Party and their

1804
01:42:25.840 --> 01:42:29.600
<v Speaker 23>civil war. Look, that video is disgusting and it reinforces

1805
01:42:29.640 --> 01:42:32.560
<v Speaker 23>the position the government's taken to listen to MASS as

1806
01:42:32.600 --> 01:42:34.960
<v Speaker 23>a terrorist group and make clear that they can have

1807
01:42:35.079 --> 01:42:37.720
<v Speaker 23>no role in the future governance of a Palestinian state.

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01:42:39.199 --> 01:42:41.399
<v Speaker 21>Philip, as someone who knows a bit about warfare, what

1809
01:42:41.399 --> 01:42:46.520
<v Speaker 21>do you make of this power vacuum?

1810
01:42:47.159 --> 01:42:51.960
<v Speaker 24>Well, it's quite concerning. And hearing from President Trump earlier

1811
01:42:52.000 --> 01:42:55.640
<v Speaker 24>saying that if a mass doesn't disarm, he'll disarm them,

1812
01:42:56.239 --> 01:42:58.960
<v Speaker 24>it is very concerning to see that there is conflict

1813
01:42:58.960 --> 01:43:02.279
<v Speaker 24>that is bubbled up over again and execution's happening. We

1814
01:43:02.279 --> 01:43:04.039
<v Speaker 24>should be keeping a close eye on it because if

1815
01:43:04.039 --> 01:43:09.720
<v Speaker 24>it isn't controlled, it will explode into militia style conflict

1816
01:43:09.960 --> 01:43:12.640
<v Speaker 24>throughout the regions and something that we don't want to see,

1817
01:43:13.000 --> 01:43:14.279
<v Speaker 24>especially in times of peace.

1818
01:43:14.319 --> 01:43:16.399
<v Speaker 21>Talking yeah, I mean this is what we'd be phasing

1819
01:43:16.439 --> 01:43:19.399
<v Speaker 21>if we went in with peacekeeping troops. John o'duanneam supported

1820
01:43:19.399 --> 01:43:22.640
<v Speaker 21>that yesterday. If we were asked big caveat there, would

1821
01:43:22.640 --> 01:43:25.560
<v Speaker 21>you support that? Phillip peacekeeping troops to Gaza.

1822
01:43:27.840 --> 01:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>I think it's a.

1823
01:43:28.319 --> 01:43:32.279
<v Speaker 24>Bit early right now to be talking about setting Australians

1824
01:43:32.319 --> 01:43:37.159
<v Speaker 24>as peacekeepers, especially since we're only now seeing the release

1825
01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:40.000
<v Speaker 24>of hostages. Not all of the bodies of the hostages

1826
01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:44.840
<v Speaker 24>have been released. It's still in turmoil and conflict and

1827
01:43:44.840 --> 01:43:47.920
<v Speaker 24>things like that. It will put people in danger. And

1828
01:43:48.319 --> 01:43:50.199
<v Speaker 24>if you're going over to be a peacekeeper, it's not

1829
01:43:50.199 --> 01:43:52.159
<v Speaker 24>supposed to be in a kinetic role. You're not supposed

1830
01:43:52.159 --> 01:43:53.960
<v Speaker 24>to be gunfighting. You're supposed to be there to make

1831
01:43:54.000 --> 01:43:58.560
<v Speaker 24>sure that the peace is stable and happening. With linking

1832
01:43:58.600 --> 01:44:02.000
<v Speaker 24>backs to the NAT, the UN, the US, I don't

1833
01:44:02.039 --> 01:44:05.600
<v Speaker 24>think we're there yet because of these public executions. If

1834
01:44:05.880 --> 01:44:08.439
<v Speaker 24>Australians were there now, it would be a kinetic fight

1835
01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:11.319
<v Speaker 24>and it would draw in every other nation. So I

1836
01:44:11.319 --> 01:44:13.760
<v Speaker 24>think we've got to watch this from a distance, but

1837
01:44:13.800 --> 01:44:16.279
<v Speaker 24>also make sure that we're standing closely with our allies

1838
01:44:16.279 --> 01:44:18.640
<v Speaker 24>in the US and the UK and offer support where

1839
01:44:18.680 --> 01:44:21.520
<v Speaker 24>they think it's needed. But right now we'd been in

1840
01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:22.399
<v Speaker 24>a gunfight.

1841
01:44:22.319 --> 01:44:27.560
<v Speaker 9>How would you feel about peacekeepers, Julian, I mean the

1842
01:44:27.560 --> 01:44:32.000
<v Speaker 9>government would consider any requests for contributions to international efforts

1843
01:44:32.000 --> 01:44:34.720
<v Speaker 9>in the normal way. I'll make one point I've said

1844
01:44:34.760 --> 01:44:37.039
<v Speaker 9>for years, I think on your show, Pete, in forums

1845
01:44:37.079 --> 01:44:41.680
<v Speaker 9>and elsewhere, that my view about this decade's old conflict

1846
01:44:42.119 --> 01:44:44.640
<v Speaker 9>is that it will only end when the world sets

1847
01:44:44.680 --> 01:44:48.319
<v Speaker 9>limits to the conflict and intervenes collectively to guarantee the

1848
01:44:48.359 --> 01:44:51.479
<v Speaker 9>security of the State of Israel and the Palestinian state.

1849
01:44:52.039 --> 01:44:56.640
<v Speaker 1>So, yes, there was public executions. Hamas was doing it

1850
01:44:56.680 --> 01:45:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to Palestinian people. They were saying that these were Israeli

1851
01:45:02.039 --> 01:45:06.479
<v Speaker 1>sympathizers for lack of better words. They had their own

1852
01:45:06.520 --> 01:45:09.359
<v Speaker 1>claims as far as what these people were, and look,

1853
01:45:09.640 --> 01:45:11.600
<v Speaker 1>this is a group that is carrying out their own

1854
01:45:11.760 --> 01:45:15.000
<v Speaker 1>justice on their land. And I get that. But also

1855
01:45:15.159 --> 01:45:17.800
<v Speaker 1>for everybody that thinks that you know, these poor gosins

1856
01:45:18.199 --> 01:45:22.399
<v Speaker 1>were not being repressed or you know, in any way

1857
01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:26.159
<v Speaker 1>by Hamas. It's not a good look. And Hamas even

1858
01:45:26.199 --> 01:45:28.239
<v Speaker 1>came out later and said, no, that was absolutely us.

1859
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<v Speaker 1>We were absolutely doing public executions in the street. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>not a good look. And there is currently a power

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<v Speaker 1>vacuum in Gaza because Hamas was the ruling faction. Yes,

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01:45:39.520 --> 01:45:42.720
<v Speaker 1>they had elected leaders, but they were put there by Hamas. Okay,

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01:45:43.359 --> 01:45:48.640
<v Speaker 1>now Hamas has lost power quote unquote, and I am

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that they will stay without power in this area.

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<v Speaker 1>We shall see how this plays out. But let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the BBC article here. Footage shows public executions in

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza city streets. Footage has emerged showing the public executions

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<v Speaker 1>of three men accused of being Israeli collaborators in Gaza City.

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<v Speaker 1>This was published, I should mention on October twenty second.

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<v Speaker 1>This is before the six men that we just saw

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<v Speaker 1>being publicly executed as well, So there is a mass

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<v Speaker 1>of public executions that are going on here. BBC Verify

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<v Speaker 1>has verified wow that the location of the executions was

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<v Speaker 1>on a street outside of Shifa Hospital in the center

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01:46:26.680 --> 01:46:29.039
<v Speaker 1>of the city, which is the focus of a major

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01:46:29.119 --> 01:46:33.319
<v Speaker 1>Israeli ground offensive. Video circulating on Sunday evening showed at

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<v Speaker 1>least five armed, armed and masked men, three blind, blindfolded

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01:46:37.720 --> 01:46:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Palestinian men kneeling on the ground, and a large crowd.

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01:46:40.560 --> 01:46:42.920
<v Speaker 1>One of the armed men is heard saying the death

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<v Speaker 1>sentence has been decided for all collaborators. There are cheers

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<v Speaker 1>before the three men are pushed to the ground and

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01:46:47.960 --> 01:46:49.720
<v Speaker 1>shot several times in the back of the head. The

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01:46:49.720 --> 01:46:54.600
<v Speaker 1>crowd then praises Hamas armed wing the Casam brigades. The

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<v Speaker 1>Palaestinian security official from the Hamas run Gaza government told

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<v Speaker 1>Reuters that the execution were carried out by the Joint

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<v Speaker 1>Operations Room of Palestinian Resistance. This is a rare instance

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<v Speaker 1>in which a public execution in Gaza has been captured

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<v Speaker 1>on video. There have been previous reports of Hamas using

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01:47:11.439 --> 01:47:14.640
<v Speaker 1>violence on those who dissent. In May, Hamas led groups

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<v Speaker 1>are poorly executed four Palestinians for looting aid trucks Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>In Sunday's footage, one armed man singles out Yasir Abu

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01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:27.439
<v Speaker 1>Shabab as a major collaborator who they seek to kill.

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01:47:27.680 --> 01:47:31.359
<v Speaker 1>Abu Shabab is a major figurehead of a clan which

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01:47:31.399 --> 01:47:34.159
<v Speaker 1>has reportedly been armed by the Israeli government. It has

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01:47:34.199 --> 01:47:38.079
<v Speaker 1>been operating in Rafa, in an area under Israeli military control.

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01:47:38.319 --> 01:47:42.079
<v Speaker 1>The group has presented itself as an opposition forced to Hamas.

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01:47:42.560 --> 01:47:47.399
<v Speaker 1>So again, depending on what narrative you'll get, Gaza is

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01:47:47.520 --> 01:47:51.359
<v Speaker 1>only just anti Israel, and there's nobody in Gaza that

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01:47:51.439 --> 01:47:55.920
<v Speaker 1>does not like Hamas. That is certifiably not true. I mean,

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01:47:55.920 --> 01:48:00.880
<v Speaker 1>that's it's the wherever you go, there's gonna be leading faction,

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01:48:01.000 --> 01:48:03.279
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be people that do not like that leading faction.

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01:48:03.479 --> 01:48:07.359
<v Speaker 1>So the media has skewed and spun a lot of

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01:48:07.399 --> 01:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>this narrative as far as Gaza is concerned, some of

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01:48:10.000 --> 01:48:14.119
<v Speaker 1>it some of it very purposely done to make Hamas

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01:48:14.199 --> 01:48:18.119
<v Speaker 1>look like victims and all this, and it's crazy to me.

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01:48:18.279 --> 01:48:21.000
<v Speaker 1>The victims of this entire conflict have been the civilian

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01:48:21.039 --> 01:48:25.479
<v Speaker 1>population in the Gaza strip. Hamas have been the bad guys.

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01:48:25.720 --> 01:48:28.800
<v Speaker 1>The IDF have been the bad guys. The civilian population

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01:48:28.880 --> 01:48:31.479
<v Speaker 1>who wanted none of this smoke are the only ones

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01:48:31.520 --> 01:48:34.119
<v Speaker 1>that have really suffered. I'm gonna just call it now,

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01:48:34.159 --> 01:48:38.479
<v Speaker 1>but anyway, in July, Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu confirmed that

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01:48:38.560 --> 01:48:41.079
<v Speaker 1>Israel was arming clans in Gaza that he said were

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01:48:41.079 --> 01:48:45.079
<v Speaker 1>opposed to Hamas. However, Yaser Abu Shabab posted online to

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01:48:45.199 --> 01:48:50.119
<v Speaker 1>categorically reject that Israel had supplied his group's weapons. Okay,

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01:48:50.159 --> 01:48:52.279
<v Speaker 1>so Hamas just doesn't like this guy and his claiming

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01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:55.479
<v Speaker 1>that he is Israeli aligned whenever he himself said that's

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01:48:55.520 --> 01:48:58.680
<v Speaker 1>not true. That same month, a senior officer in Hamas's

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01:48:58.680 --> 01:49:01.399
<v Speaker 1>security forces told the bb SEE that the Palestinian Armed

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01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Group had lost much of its control over the Gaza

1920
01:49:03.600 --> 01:49:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Strip and that armed clans were filling the void. Aboushabab's

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01:49:07.279 --> 01:49:10.720
<v Speaker 1>armed group has been advertising for recruits on social media,

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01:49:11.079 --> 01:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>was reported. The news agency quoted residents and sources close

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01:49:14.840 --> 01:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>to Hamas As saying that other groups opposed to Hamas

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01:49:17.760 --> 01:49:20.600
<v Speaker 1>had also emerged in parts of northern Gaza and near

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01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:25.079
<v Speaker 1>Khan Yunis in southern Gaza. Israeli troops, meanwhile, have continued

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01:49:25.119 --> 01:49:28.319
<v Speaker 1>to operate in Gaza City. The Israeli military said troops

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<v Speaker 1>had dismantled military infrastructure used by Hamas and killed a

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01:49:32.319 --> 01:49:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Hamas cell that had attacked Israeli soldiers, wounding an officer.

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<v Speaker 1>It is said that its objectives are to free the

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<v Speaker 1>hostages still held by Hamas and defeat up to three

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<v Speaker 1>thousand fighters in what it has described as the group's

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<v Speaker 1>main stronghold. However, the offensive in Gaza's biggest urban area,

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01:49:49.199 --> 01:49:51.600
<v Speaker 1>where one million people were living and a famine was

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<v Speaker 1>confirmed last month, has drawn widespread international condemnation. Last week,

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<v Speaker 1>a spokesperson for the UN's Humanitarian Office said she had

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<v Speaker 1>seen a constant stream of Palestinians heading south during a

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01:50:03.239 --> 01:50:06.159
<v Speaker 1>recent visit to the city, but that hundreds of thousands

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01:50:06.199 --> 01:50:10.359
<v Speaker 1>remained in the city. She described the situation as cataclysmic.

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<v Speaker 1>The Israeli military launched a campaign in Gaza to response

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<v Speaker 1>to the Israelis attack on southern Israel on October seventh,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, in which about twelve hundred people were

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01:50:21.399 --> 01:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>killed and two hundred and fifty one were taken hostage.

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<v Speaker 1>At least sixty five thousand, three hundred and forty four

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<v Speaker 1>people have been killed in Israeli attacks and Gaza since then,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the territories Hamas run health Ministry. Now, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that being said, as of this moment, HAMAS says

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<v Speaker 1>that it has returned all Israeli hostages that it can recover,

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<v Speaker 1>living and dead. This was posted five hours ago. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>listen in This is from CBS News.

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<v Speaker 12>And Hamas says it has returned all of the Israeli

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<v Speaker 12>hostages that it is able to recover, living and dead.

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<v Speaker 12>That would mean the remains of nearly two dozen people

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<v Speaker 12>kidnapped on October seventh, twenty twenty three, they never come home.

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<v Speaker 12>Barbara Plutt, Usher with our partners at BBC News, has.

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<v Speaker 25>More a dispute over the remains of the dead hostages

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<v Speaker 25>is shaking up the ceasefire here. Israel had said that

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<v Speaker 25>Hamas wasn't handing over enough bodies fast enough, and it

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<v Speaker 25>threatened to restrict the flow of aid into Gaza. Hamas

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<v Speaker 25>responded by handing over a few more, including two of

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<v Speaker 25>them on Wednesday night. But now it's saying that's all

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<v Speaker 25>it can do for now. It says it's committed to

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<v Speaker 25>the ceasefire deal, but locating and recovering the rest of

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<v Speaker 25>the bodies is going to be a major effort and

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<v Speaker 25>will require special equipment. Now, it was understood that finding

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<v Speaker 25>some of the bodies would be quite difficult because of

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<v Speaker 25>the ruins and rubble of Gaza. But Hamas has only

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<v Speaker 25>handed over nine. There are still nineteen left and in Gaza,

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<v Speaker 25>Palestinians are worried that any further delays will cut off

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<v Speaker 25>the flow of aid. They have been stockpiling what food

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<v Speaker 25>there is and the prices have really been rising. Under

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<v Speaker 25>the deal, Israel is also supposed to hand back the

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<v Speaker 25>bodies of Palestinian prisoners. So far it has returned ninety,

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<v Speaker 25>but the hospital is struggling to identify some of them

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<v Speaker 25>because they came with numbers, not names, and the doctor

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<v Speaker 25>in charge says that some of them are unrecognizable.

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<v Speaker 12>Back to you, Barbara Flett Usher, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>So we shall see what happens with this. Is this

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<v Speaker 1>going to be the thing that makes the conflict kick

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<v Speaker 1>back off because they're not returning all the bodies? Are

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<v Speaker 1>they going to find some other thing to keep the

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01:52:34.000 --> 01:52:37.199
<v Speaker 1>flames of this conflict alive? And well? Are they going

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<v Speaker 1>to let cooler heads prevail finally and let the ceasefire continue?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know, Tony. You have a

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01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:48.479
<v Speaker 1>couple of different opinions on this. I'm sure what is

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<v Speaker 1>your take on this?

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, I was still stuck back in the Gaza situation.

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<v Speaker 2>I saw a lot of people actually saying, oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Hamas was totally right to execute those people, and I

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01:53:01.479 --> 01:53:04.840
<v Speaker 2>didn't look into it a huge amount. They blamed them

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<v Speaker 2>for price gouging, which is something that I don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong in the first place, and collaborating with Israel,

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01:53:12.079 --> 01:53:14.920
<v Speaker 2>which may be true but also may not be true.

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<v Speaker 2>There's an enormous amount of pressure on the people who

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<v Speaker 2>lived there. And also I think they're very PTSD. There's

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01:53:23.279 --> 01:53:26.600
<v Speaker 2>a lot of PTSD in Gaza, so they are going

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<v Speaker 2>to be less inhibited in killing each other now than

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01:53:28.880 --> 01:53:32.159
<v Speaker 2>they would have been otherwise because they've seen so much

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<v Speaker 2>death and this is just kind of something they're inured

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<v Speaker 2>to now, if that's the right word. They're kind of

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<v Speaker 2>numb to it. But you're asking about the Taliban and Pakistan.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, I was asking about Gaza. I was

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01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:48.000
<v Speaker 1>asking you what your take was on Gaza. But we're

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01:53:48.079 --> 01:53:50.680
<v Speaker 1>going to get to Afghanistan and Pakistan here in a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get there, I did want to check

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01:53:52.479 --> 01:53:53.760
<v Speaker 1>out the chat and I did want to hear in

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<v Speaker 1>from any of you that have any opinions on what

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01:53:56.720 --> 01:53:59.359
<v Speaker 1>we have covered thus far. And I know that you

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01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Tony or somebody that keeps your finger on the pulse

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01:54:01.760 --> 01:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>for geopolitical things. So I was wondering what your take

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<v Speaker 1>was on the Hamas. I don't want to use the

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<v Speaker 1>term death squad because I feel like that's not exactly accurate,

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01:54:11.119 --> 01:54:15.119
<v Speaker 1>but them seeking their own specific brand of justice for

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<v Speaker 1>Israeli collaborators, and I also could get that point right,

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<v Speaker 1>So like, if these people are aligning themselves with Hamasa's enemy,

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<v Speaker 1>executions are to be expected. But I'm also wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>that is going to be used as more provocation to

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<v Speaker 1>keep the conflict going even further aligned. Aside from the

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<v Speaker 1>bodies not being recovered and returned to Israel and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>the public executions are not a good look as far

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<v Speaker 1>as showing that they nobody wants Amasa to continue to

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<v Speaker 1>be the reigning power in Gaza. But this shows that

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01:54:46.880 --> 01:54:50.079
<v Speaker 1>they still have power in Gaza. So do you think

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<v Speaker 1>that that might also play into Israel showing even more

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<v Speaker 1>of a military presence in this area going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I bet I bet that half the population of

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<v Speaker 2>Gaza still will want Hamas in power. It's gonna be

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<v Speaker 2>hard to tell. But like the North Korea, I believe

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<v Speaker 2>that Kim Jong un is legitimately popular there. And even

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<v Speaker 2>if you didn't put a gun to people's heads, they

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<v Speaker 2>would still say, oh, yeah, he's our guy. He's the

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<v Speaker 2>only guy they can imagine as his leader. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>probably similar with Hamas. Another thought that pops into my

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<v Speaker 2>mind is there are a lot of executions at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of World War Two by the Allied side and

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<v Speaker 2>the Axis side when they could do it too, right

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<v Speaker 2>before they lost power. It's kind of sad that that's

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<v Speaker 2>just how people, the behavior people drift into when there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of death around, they must feel like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to solve problems. And I think it's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ironic that the Europeans, at least my whole life, have

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<v Speaker 2>been very anti death penalty and they really look down

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<v Speaker 2>on Americans for it. But just in living memory, it's

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<v Speaker 2>fading now, But at the end of the World War

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<v Speaker 2>Two they were still executing people with guillotines.

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<v Speaker 1>The French last guillotine death happened in like the seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>Death penalty until nineteen seventy.

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<v Speaker 1>Seven, yeah, seventy seven.

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<v Speaker 2>In fact, Japan still exercises the death penalty. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean they haven't. I think Japan had a moratorium on

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<v Speaker 2>it in like twenty eighteen way more recently than you

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<v Speaker 2>would have expected, and it's still on the books over there.

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<v Speaker 2>But and China still does it. But yeah, yeah, Gaza

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<v Speaker 2>having the death penalty, maybe it shocks Western Europeans, but

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<v Speaker 2>it really shouldn't shock most people.

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<v Speaker 1>In Yeah, I would agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Doesn't Reel have the death penalty.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they do. I believe they do,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think it has to be. It can't just

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<v Speaker 1>be for like, you know, a string of bank robberies

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<v Speaker 1>or anything like that. It has to be basically an

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<v Speaker 1>attack on Israel itself. Yeah, they I could. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't even imagine them not having the death pane,

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<v Speaker 1>to be completely honest with you. With net and Yahoo

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<v Speaker 1>in charge, there's no way. There's no way. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. But yeah, so I'm with you. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>against people getting their justice by any means. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not pro Hamas here, and I don't think that

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<v Speaker 1>Hamas is like the good guys in executing these people.

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<v Speaker 1>But I understand that I also have my own biases

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<v Speaker 1>as far as that's concerned. It's not the executions that

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<v Speaker 1>have a problem with Yeah, I think I am against

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<v Speaker 1>the death penalty, just in principle, I could go either

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<v Speaker 1>ray on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not super strongly opinionated on it. The people who

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<v Speaker 2>say that, well, you're not pro life unless you're also

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<v Speaker 2>against the death penalty, I think that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's way more important issues out there than the death

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<v Speaker 2>penalty ward peace and abortion, and there's a whole host

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<v Speaker 2>of other issues. How many people die of the death

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<v Speaker 2>penalty every year worldwide? Maybe a few dozen or hundred, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and they mostly deserve it, right, you know, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to cry too hard about them.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree with you one hundred percent. But I

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<v Speaker 1>am curious how that's gonna shake out. As far as

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<v Speaker 1>the Israel Gaza conflict is concerned, I don't know for

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<v Speaker 1>a fact that Israel is going to use that as

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<v Speaker 1>justification to continue pushing further in with a military presence.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're gonna use the issue with

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<v Speaker 1>the recovering of bodies of captives as provocation either. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping that cooler heads can prevail and that this whole

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<v Speaker 1>situation can be put to rest in whatever the hell

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<v Speaker 1>that looks like moving forward. But I also don't believe

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<v Speaker 1>that net Yahoo is satisfied. So I wouldn't be surprised

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<v Speaker 1>if he looks for any and all reasons as provocation

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to push. But we shall see, we shall

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<v Speaker 1>see how things shake out. And to all the people

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the Cajun Night, I know there's thousands of

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<v Speaker 1>you listening. As a matter of fact, I look at

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<v Speaker 1>the analytics. I know what's happening. You would need to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of this conversation. Go to link in

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<v Speaker 1>the description below and join us at Cajun Night on

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<v Speaker 1>Patreon to join us every Wednesday night to let us

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<v Speaker 1>hear what you think about the conversation. But moving forward,

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<v Speaker 1>let's talk about Afghanistan and Pakistan. All right. So both

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<v Speaker 1>the articles I have pulled up from this are from

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<v Speaker 1>Al Jazeera. Yes, I understand they have their biases as

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<v Speaker 1>far as things are concerned, But that being said, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's worth listening. So real quick, we got a

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<v Speaker 1>four minute video that we're going to play here. This

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<v Speaker 1>article doesn't do a really great job all the way down,

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<v Speaker 1>is more like a blog post. I do have an

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<v Speaker 1>article that we're going to talk about here in a moment,

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<v Speaker 1>but right now, let's hear from this video here. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a four minute long video describing what is going down

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 26>Taliban and Pakistani forces have traded five across the Afghan border,

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<v Speaker 26>with Taliban officials saying their forces captured three Pakistani military outposts.

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<v Speaker 26>Taliban said the attack represents a retaliation for what it

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<v Speaker 26>calls a violation of its sovereignty on Thursday with air

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<v Speaker 26>strikes on the capital Kabul. Pakistan has long accused of

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<v Speaker 26>Askanisan of harboring armed groups that carry out attacks inside

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<v Speaker 26>its territory. Islamabad also said its forces destroyed Taliban outposts.

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<v Speaker 26>Afghanistan's foreign ministers said on Friday relations with his country

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<v Speaker 26>must go through proper diplomatic channels.

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<v Speaker 27>Afghanistani, could you be no foreign military has ever been

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<v Speaker 27>accepted by the people of Afghanistan and they still don't

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<v Speaker 27>accept it. This is our decision that Afghanistan is a

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<v Speaker 27>free and independent country and after this it will remain

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<v Speaker 27>free and independent. If countries want to have relations with us,

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<v Speaker 27>they can come to the diplomatic mission, but we don't

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<v Speaker 27>accept them in military uniform.

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<v Speaker 26>Kamal Haida joins US live now from Islamabid with the

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<v Speaker 26>latest on this developing story. Come on what is actually

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<v Speaker 26>going on here?

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<v Speaker 28>Well, First of all, It's important to note that there's

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<v Speaker 28>a little bit of a background here, and that is

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<v Speaker 28>the fact that Pakistan had repeatedly, as you mentioned, told

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<v Speaker 28>the Afghan side that they must restrain and prevent the

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<v Speaker 28>grot bordered attacks because under the Dohai Agreement, the Afgran

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<v Speaker 28>Taliban had assured that their soil would not be used

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<v Speaker 28>in attacks on any country. So importantly, the Pakistanis told

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<v Speaker 28>the Avrans that they must do something on several occasions. However,

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<v Speaker 28>they did not get a firm reply, and in the

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<v Speaker 28>past week, Pakistan lost almost two dozen of its security

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<v Speaker 28>forces personnel, including officers, in attacks carried out near the

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<v Speaker 28>Afgran border. Pakistan had said that it would retaliate and

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<v Speaker 28>take massage into its own hand after those reports of

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<v Speaker 28>air incursions into Afghan airspace. The Taliban said that they

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<v Speaker 28>were launching a reprisal attack, after which the Pakistanis retaliated

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<v Speaker 28>with heavy artillery fire as well. They're claiming that they

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<v Speaker 28>have taken over nineteen posts from the Avrans on that

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<v Speaker 28>border area. And also the fact that this comes at

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<v Speaker 28>a time when the Afghan foreign Minister Mutaki is in Delhi,

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<v Speaker 28>which Pakistan viewed with suspicion because of its deteriorating relationship

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<v Speaker 28>with India. Pakistan continues to maintain that these ttp fighters

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<v Speaker 28>are directly getting support from the Indian intelligence.

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<v Speaker 26>Come on, the Taliban and Pakistan have had quite close

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<v Speaker 26>ties though in the past.

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<v Speaker 28>Indeed, it is alarming because over the past, after this

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<v Speaker 28>new government took over, and we're talking about Taliban one

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<v Speaker 28>point oh and this is Taliban two point oh, it

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<v Speaker 28>has changed a lot. There are restrictions inside Afghanistan on

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<v Speaker 28>women's education, women's rights, and of course the fact that Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 28>according to Pakistan, has not been able to live up

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<v Speaker 28>to its promises of preventing their territory being you their

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<v Speaker 28>sanctuaries for carrying out the attacks against Pakistan, so that

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<v Speaker 28>relationship has now starved. Pakistan says that it does not

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<v Speaker 28>take kindly to this new growing nexus between New Delhi

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<v Speaker 28>and Kabbal and of course, Pakistan said that it will

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<v Speaker 28>retaliate in kind whenever provoked. This is of course a

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<v Speaker 28>dangerous crisis because both countries have economic issues, both countries

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<v Speaker 28>have a history of friendship and brotherhood, and of course

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<v Speaker 28>friendly countries are now asking Pakistan and Afghanistan. Saudi Arabia

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<v Speaker 28>Cutter even the Iranian foreign minister saying that both sides

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<v Speaker 28>must exercise maximum restraint and try to solve this diplomatically.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, thank you very much. Come on, hid there

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<v Speaker 1>in all right? So let's read in a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>here updates. Afghanistan's Taliban and Pakistan say border clashes killed dozens.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of the keynotes that we need to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>what happened today as we closed the live page soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan's military says it has killed more than two hundred

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban and other fighters in an overnight border clash, adding

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<v Speaker 1>that twenty three of its soldiers were killed and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>were injured. It added that its forces carried out infrastructure

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<v Speaker 1>damages to Taliban posts, camps, headquarters and support networks. Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>claims it killed fifty eight Pakistani soldiers in the fighting.

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<v Speaker 1>Afghani Foreign Minister Amir Khan Matiki says Kabul achieved our

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<v Speaker 1>military objectives last night and that its military has paused

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<v Speaker 1>the fighting from our side for the time being. Katar

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<v Speaker 1>and Saudi Arabia have expressed deep concern over the recent

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<v Speaker 1>escalation and tensions along the border, calling for restraint and

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<v Speaker 1>the need to be to de escalate Iran said it

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<v Speaker 1>was ready to assist in easing tensions between the two countries.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Iran is there to hease the tension because

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<v Speaker 1>they don't have any anything they need to be more

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<v Speaker 1>pressed with anyway. So real quick, here is a map

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<v Speaker 1>of the situation along the Afghani and Pakistani borders showing

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<v Speaker 1>some of the conflicts that have taken place. And again,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not gonna spend too much time into this article

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<v Speaker 1>because it seems like it's more of a blog post

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<v Speaker 1>than an article, but we do have another Al Jazer

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<v Speaker 1>article pulled up talking about it. So it says that

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<v Speaker 1>it claimed dozens of casualties in the border clashes. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it here. Pakistan's military says it killed more

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<v Speaker 1>than two hundred Afghan Afghan fighters, while Afghanistan claimed it

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<v Speaker 1>killed fifty eight Pakistani soldiers in cross border clashes along

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<v Speaker 1>their frontier. A spokesperson for Afghanistan's Taliban government on Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>said thirty other Pakistani soldiers were wounded and a significant

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<v Speaker 1>amount of Pakistani weapons fell into Afghan hands. Now, the

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban blames Pakistan after an explosion or explosions in Kabul

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<v Speaker 1>amid outreach to India. Pakistani raids near Afghan border killed

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<v Speaker 1>at least nineteen soldiers and thirty five fighters. Now, how

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan misread the Taliban and lost peace on the frontier,

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to talk about that, and India to reopen

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<v Speaker 1>its embassy in Kabul after four year hiatus amid new

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban ties. Now, I find that also very interesting that

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan twice this year has been involved in border clashes

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<v Speaker 1>with its neighbors. Just a few months ago, we were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Pakistan India conflict that was going on.

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<v Speaker 1>They basically lobbed some rockets at each other, They killed

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of people on each side, and they decided

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<v Speaker 1>that they were gonna cal them down with it. Now

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan and Afghanistan are getting after it literally just to

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<v Speaker 1>the other side of their country. Pakistan is just becoming

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<v Speaker 1>a whole warring nation over there, isn't it? Now? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it their fault? Are they just responding to things that

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<v Speaker 1>are happening to them, you'd be the judge. But also

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<v Speaker 1>in the back burner of this, I find it interesting

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<v Speaker 1>because China has influence in this area. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>massive influence in India, they have a massive influence in

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan and a massive influence in Afghanistan because of their

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<v Speaker 1>Belt and Road initiative. So with all this going on,

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<v Speaker 1>just being a little bit of a conspiracy theorist here,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering if this is being orchestrated. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that for a fact, but we'll see how it all

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<v Speaker 1>shakes out anyway. Mujahid challenged the Pakistani reports, adding that

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<v Speaker 1>nine Taliban soldiers were killed in overnight operations and nearly

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<v Speaker 1>a dozen others were injured. Pakistan's military, on the other hand,

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<v Speaker 1>said twenty three of its brave sons quote unquote were

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<v Speaker 1>killed in the clashes, and officials said they closed their

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<v Speaker 1>borders with Afghanistan. Border hostilities erupted after Thursday's explosions in Afghanistan,

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<v Speaker 1>which the Taliban blamed on Pakistan, representing the sharpest escalation

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<v Speaker 1>in months of strained relations over Islamabad's allegations that Afghanistan

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<v Speaker 1>is harboring armed groups behind attacks inside Pakistan. Earlier on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban said it captured three Pakistani border posts during its

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<v Speaker 1>retaliatory attacks at several points along the border in Kunar

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<v Speaker 1>and Hellman provinces. Oh wow, Yeah, I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 1>try to pronounce that name. The spokesperson for the Afghan

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<v Speaker 1>Ministry Defense said late on Saturday that the Taliban forces

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<v Speaker 1>that carried out successful retaliatory attacks against Pakistani soldiers in

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<v Speaker 1>response to the neighboring country's repeated violations of and airstrikes

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<v Speaker 1>on Afghan territory. The Pakistani state media on Sunday said

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<v Speaker 1>its forces seized nineteen Afghan border posts, citing security sources

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<v Speaker 1>who said Afghan Taliban fighters at the post were either

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<v Speaker 1>killed or fled. A video broadcasted by Pakistani television showed

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<v Speaker 1>Afghan posts in flames Taliban soldiers allegedly surim during in Kuram.

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Pakistan, citing security sources, said Pakistani forces completely destroyed

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<v Speaker 1>the Taliban's Monajba Camp, Battalion headquarters, Jendusar Post, Turkmenzai Camp

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<v Speaker 1>and kur Kharchar Fort. I am sorry for the mispronunciation.

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<v Speaker 1>I speak the American English. The state broadcaster said Pakistan

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<v Speaker 1>was targeting the hideouts of armed groups near the border

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<v Speaker 1>with great precision. The fighting has prompted calls for restraint

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<v Speaker 1>from Iran, Katar and Saudi Arabia. Long term consequences of

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<v Speaker 1>this are worrying. The overnight fights marks a sharp excalation

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<v Speaker 1>between the South Asian neighbors, coming days after an explosion

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<v Speaker 1>in Kabul and Paktia Paktika that the Taliban government blamed

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<v Speaker 1>on Pakistan. Islamabad did not claim responsibility for the blasts,

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<v Speaker 1>but Defense Minister of Pakistan told parliament that enough is enough,

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<v Speaker 1>warning Kabul of consequences for continued assaults on Pakistani forces,

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<v Speaker 1>an unarmed Pakistani source told or excuse me. An unnamed

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistani source told Reuters that the strike targeted the leader

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<v Speaker 1>of the t Reek e Taliban Pakistan the TTP in Kabul.

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<v Speaker 1>Once warm, relations between Pakistan and Afghanistan have deteriorated as

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02:09:59.680 --> 02:10:02.239
<v Speaker 1>islam Mama Bad has accused Coable of harboring members of

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02:10:02.279 --> 02:10:05.680
<v Speaker 1>the TTP and other armed groups which carry out attacks

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<v Speaker 1>against it. The TTP or Pakistani Taliban, were formed in

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<v Speaker 1>two thousand and seven in response to Pakistan's military operations

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02:10:13.399 --> 02:10:17.399
<v Speaker 1>in its tribal border regions supporting the US invasion of Afghanistan.

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<v Speaker 1>It has since waged a deadly insurgency. Since the TTP

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<v Speaker 1>issue has become a major sticking point in the relations

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<v Speaker 1>between the two countries. This is an Islamabad based expert

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<v Speaker 1>on Pakistani and Afghan armed groups told Al Jazeera the

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<v Speaker 1>long term consequences are worrying as they will only deepen

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02:10:34.800 --> 02:10:39.600
<v Speaker 1>existing animosities. He said Pakistan has faced an intensified offensive

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<v Speaker 1>from the TTP in recent months, and with Islamabad based

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02:10:42.520 --> 02:10:47.920
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan Institute for Conflict and Security Studies reporting the August

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<v Speaker 1>marked the deadliest month for militant violence in more than

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<v Speaker 1>a decade. The institute said that one hundred and ninety

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<v Speaker 1>four people were killed and more than two hundred injured

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<v Speaker 1>in one hundred and forty three attacks across the country.

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<v Speaker 1>Pakistan now ranks second in the Global Terrorism Index, which

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<v Speaker 1>evaluates countries based on the impact and consequences of attacked

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<v Speaker 1>by or attacks by armed groups within their borders. Tens

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<v Speaker 1>of thousands have been displaced due to the military's operations

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<v Speaker 1>against the TCP and other armed groups. The flare up

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02:11:16.199 --> 02:11:20.359
<v Speaker 1>in fighting coincided with Afghan foreign minister's visit to India,

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<v Speaker 1>signaling a potential shift in bilateral relations and provoking Pakistan,

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<v Speaker 1>which regards New Delhi as a regional rival. Pakistan's military

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<v Speaker 1>said in a statement that it was concerned about the

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02:11:31.760 --> 02:11:34.119
<v Speaker 1>timing of the fighting and said India was the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sponsor of terrorism in the region. Again not surprising that

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02:11:38.119 --> 02:11:40.760
<v Speaker 1>Pakistan would take that stance, especially seeing as how just

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<v Speaker 1>a few months ago they were having armed conflict with India,

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<v Speaker 1>so moving on. New Delhi denies the charge, while the

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<v Speaker 1>Taliban says it does not allow its territory to be

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<v Speaker 1>used against other countries. Meanwhile, the Iranian Minister of Foreign

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<v Speaker 1>Affairs called on his country's two neighbors to exercise restraint.

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<v Speaker 1>Our position is that both sides much exercise restraint, he said,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the report by the AFP News agency, adding

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<v Speaker 1>that stability between the countries contributes to regional stability. Saudi

2312
02:12:08.760 --> 02:12:12.479
<v Speaker 1>Arabia two express concern. The Kingdom calls for restraint, avoiding

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02:12:12.600 --> 02:12:16.159
<v Speaker 1>escalation and embracing dialogue and wisdom to contribute to reducing

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02:12:16.199 --> 02:12:19.600
<v Speaker 1>tensions and maintaining security instability in the region. That's the

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<v Speaker 1>Saudi Foreign Minister said that the Kingdom affirms its support

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<v Speaker 1>for all regional and international efforts aimed at promoting peace

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02:12:26.640 --> 02:12:31.000
<v Speaker 1>and stability, and its continued commitment to ensure security which

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02:12:31.039 --> 02:12:34.439
<v Speaker 1>will achieve stability and prosperity for the brotherhood or the

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02:12:34.439 --> 02:12:40.319
<v Speaker 1>brotherly Pakistani and Afghan peoples. It added, so they basically

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<v Speaker 1>had some explosions that took place. This sparked the conflict.

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<v Speaker 1>One side blames the other, the other side blames this side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's how this goes. So we shall see. It is

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<v Speaker 1>not a good look. I will admit that the Taliban

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02:12:54.960 --> 02:12:58.840
<v Speaker 1>leader is currently in India in a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a speaking engagement, while Pakistan just finished up a conflict

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02:13:03.119 --> 02:13:05.640
<v Speaker 1>with India and is now in a conflict with Taliban

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02:13:05.680 --> 02:13:10.479
<v Speaker 1>in Afghanistan. It's it's it's not a good look and

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02:13:10.520 --> 02:13:12.279
<v Speaker 1>of course is going to lead to them having a

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02:13:12.279 --> 02:13:15.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit of skepticism. As far as the Taliban's words.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know how this is going

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02:13:17.720 --> 02:13:20.239
<v Speaker 1>to shake out. Tony. I don't know if you have

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02:13:20.319 --> 02:13:22.039
<v Speaker 1>an opinion on this matter, but if you do, I

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02:13:22.039 --> 02:13:22.880
<v Speaker 1>would love to hear it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Lady Snooze, I just found on Twitter from two

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02:13:27.039 --> 02:13:30.520
<v Speaker 2>sources say that a forty eight hour ceasefire has just

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02:13:30.600 --> 02:13:34.279
<v Speaker 2>gone into effect. I guess that's good news for everyone

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02:13:34.800 --> 02:13:37.279
<v Speaker 2>who would have been fighting and dying in that time.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is just a bit of a tangent. But

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02:13:42.199 --> 02:13:46.199
<v Speaker 2>did you hear Trump say yesterday that that Mody told

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02:13:46.239 --> 02:13:49.479
<v Speaker 2>him he was going to stop buying Russian oil. And

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02:13:49.800 --> 02:13:51.960
<v Speaker 2>I haven't heard anything to back that up that that's

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02:13:51.960 --> 02:13:54.560
<v Speaker 2>actually true, But I can totally understand that Mody would

2343
02:13:54.600 --> 02:13:56.960
<v Speaker 2>say something like that if it's just cheap words, and

2344
02:13:57.039 --> 02:13:59.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe he'll stop like one percent of it.

2345
02:13:59.800 --> 02:14:02.520
<v Speaker 2>But that's kind of what I'm assuming it's gonna be.

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02:14:02.600 --> 02:14:05.000
<v Speaker 2>The end result, like, not much change on that front.

2347
02:14:05.039 --> 02:14:07.439
<v Speaker 2>I know it's kind of diverting to another topic. No, No,

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02:14:07.479 --> 02:14:10.199
<v Speaker 2>you're India. Kind of made me think of that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, We're It's definitely a tangent, but not completely off

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02:14:14.520 --> 02:14:16.039
<v Speaker 1>based from what we're talking about. So I am mad

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02:14:16.079 --> 02:14:19.960
<v Speaker 1>at it. Okay, Trump saying that Mody claimed that he's

2352
02:14:19.960 --> 02:14:23.319
<v Speaker 1>gonna stop buying Russian oil. I believe that's probably more

2353
02:14:23.439 --> 02:14:25.960
<v Speaker 1>cheap words than anything else. We're talking about a bricks

2354
02:14:26.039 --> 02:14:30.279
<v Speaker 1>nation not doing trade with another bricks nation. I find

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02:14:30.319 --> 02:14:33.960
<v Speaker 1>that highly unlikely. Now that being said, could that also

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02:14:34.000 --> 02:14:36.640
<v Speaker 1>be in response to Trump putting on higher tariffs on

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02:14:36.760 --> 02:14:39.680
<v Speaker 1>China and India, who just got done with the whole

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02:14:39.680 --> 02:14:43.680
<v Speaker 1>tariff debacle with America doesn't want to continue that conversation.

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02:14:44.039 --> 02:14:45.880
<v Speaker 1>So did he say some cheap words to kind of

2360
02:14:45.880 --> 02:14:48.600
<v Speaker 1>bypass and subdue Trump for a bit. Did he mean

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02:14:48.680 --> 02:14:50.720
<v Speaker 1>these things? Was it actually ever said or is this

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02:14:50.760 --> 02:14:53.680
<v Speaker 1>Trump talking shit? I could say it is going a

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02:14:53.720 --> 02:14:55.680
<v Speaker 1>couple of different ways on that, for sure. I don't

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02:14:55.960 --> 02:14:59.000
<v Speaker 1>personally as of this moment, very subject to change. I

2365
02:14:59.159 --> 02:15:01.359
<v Speaker 1>do not think that India is about to stop buying

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02:15:01.439 --> 02:15:04.119
<v Speaker 1>Russian oil when they have had all the opportunity to

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02:15:04.119 --> 02:15:07.279
<v Speaker 1>stop doing this in the entire conflict between Ukraine and Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>The world told them to stop and they basically were like, yeah,

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02:15:10.359 --> 02:15:12.199
<v Speaker 1>but he's selling it to us for cheap, so like,

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<v Speaker 1>we're just going to keep doing it. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>Mody is going to do that because in turn, that

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<v Speaker 1>would affect his people. And I will say this for Mody,

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02:15:21.560 --> 02:15:25.600
<v Speaker 1>like him or hate him. He is an Indian first dude,

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02:15:26.119 --> 02:15:28.840
<v Speaker 1>which he should be being the leader of India. So

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02:15:29.159 --> 02:15:31.479
<v Speaker 1>if it's going to be bad for his people, he's

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02:15:31.479 --> 02:15:34.680
<v Speaker 1>not going to do it. At least that's my hot

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02:15:34.720 --> 02:15:37.760
<v Speaker 1>take on him.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, yeah, I agree, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So in what you were saying, though, Yes, Pakistan and

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<v Speaker 1>Afghanistan have agreed to a forty eight hour ceasefire. This

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<v Speaker 1>was actually posted nine hours ago as a time of recording.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from the BBC let's listen in.

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<v Speaker 29>Pakistan and Afghanistan have agreed to a forty eight hour

2384
02:15:56.600 --> 02:16:01.319
<v Speaker 29>ceasfire following days of crosswater fighting. Later's development comes shortly

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02:16:01.359 --> 02:16:04.119
<v Speaker 29>after Pakistan said it carried out what it called precision

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02:16:04.239 --> 02:16:07.359
<v Speaker 29>strikes on carbar. Both sides say several people have been

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<v Speaker 29>killed and injured and skirmishers on the border. Pakistan's Foreign

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02:16:10.760 --> 02:16:13.720
<v Speaker 29>Ministry is saying both Pakistan and Afghanistan will make some

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02:16:14.159 --> 02:16:17.840
<v Speaker 29>efforts through dialogue to find a positive solution to what

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02:16:17.960 --> 02:16:23.039
<v Speaker 29>was described as a complex yet resolvable issue. Pakistan corresponding

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02:16:23.119 --> 02:16:25.920
<v Speaker 29>Caroline Davies explained to me what's been happening on the border.

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<v Speaker 30>We've been hearing about these clashes happening over the course

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02:16:29.119 --> 02:16:30.760
<v Speaker 30>of the last few days. As you say, firstly, we

2394
02:16:30.800 --> 02:16:34.120
<v Speaker 30>started hearing about them over the weekend, and then last

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02:16:34.200 --> 02:16:37.920
<v Speaker 30>night again we heard firstly hum on social media talking

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02:16:37.959 --> 02:16:41.319
<v Speaker 30>about this. Then we started hearing confirmation from the Taliban

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02:16:41.440 --> 02:16:45.719
<v Speaker 30>authorities and then confirmation as well from the Pakistan side too.

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<v Speaker 30>Now what was also apparent is that as well as

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<v Speaker 30>having these attacks on the border, both sides are trying

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<v Speaker 30>to get the upper hand on social media and the

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02:16:53.959 --> 02:16:57.559
<v Speaker 30>impression that this is giving to other countries as well.

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02:16:57.920 --> 02:17:01.239
<v Speaker 30>Both sides are talking about are blaming the other side

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02:17:01.280 --> 02:17:04.479
<v Speaker 30>for starting any of these skirmishes overnight. We've seen that

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02:17:04.520 --> 02:17:07.280
<v Speaker 30>from the various comments that they have released, and they're

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02:17:07.319 --> 02:17:09.719
<v Speaker 30>also talking about who is getting the upper hand in

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02:17:09.799 --> 02:17:12.360
<v Speaker 30>terms of who is inflicting the most damage on the

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02:17:12.399 --> 02:17:14.799
<v Speaker 30>other side too. It's very difficult to be able to

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02:17:14.920 --> 02:17:17.440
<v Speaker 30>verify the numbers that are coming out from both sides

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<v Speaker 30>that we have heard accusations from them, and social media

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02:17:20.639 --> 02:17:23.559
<v Speaker 30>is also full of videos that are alleging to show

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<v Speaker 30>images of people who have been killed in these attacks.

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02:17:26.920 --> 02:17:30.239
<v Speaker 30>There's also images that are apporting to be of checkpoints

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02:17:30.239 --> 02:17:32.600
<v Speaker 30>that are being blown up. So really a battle of

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02:17:32.600 --> 02:17:35.719
<v Speaker 30>information as well as these border clashes too.

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<v Speaker 1>So again we will see if the ceasefire actually holds

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02:17:41.200 --> 02:17:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and cooler heads will prevail. I hope it does. I mean,

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02:17:45.120 --> 02:17:49.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm all for war if it's justified, but yeah,

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02:17:49.479 --> 02:17:53.280
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, regardless of how that shakes out, I just

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02:17:53.360 --> 02:17:55.879
<v Speaker 1>hope that America doesn't try to get involved and stick

2420
02:17:55.920 --> 02:17:59.079
<v Speaker 1>its hand somewhere. We just got out of Afghanistan. We

2421
02:17:59.120 --> 02:18:02.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need reason to go back over there, realistically, and

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02:18:02.239 --> 02:18:06.159
<v Speaker 1>I know that Pakistan and America are allies. I know this,

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02:18:07.040 --> 02:18:09.680
<v Speaker 1>but I am also of the belief, just knowing what

2424
02:18:09.760 --> 02:18:13.079
<v Speaker 1>I know about Pakistan, they are more than capable of

2425
02:18:13.120 --> 02:18:16.799
<v Speaker 1>handling the Taliban. I'm just throwing this out. They are not.

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02:18:17.559 --> 02:18:20.760
<v Speaker 1>They may not be a military powerhouse by any stretch

2427
02:18:20.760 --> 02:18:23.280
<v Speaker 1>of the imagination. I mean, when they were taking off

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02:18:23.280 --> 02:18:26.159
<v Speaker 1>and they were fighting against India, that wouldn't work well

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02:18:26.200 --> 02:18:30.840
<v Speaker 1>because India would have absolutely dominated Pakistan. When it's Pakistan

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02:18:30.920 --> 02:18:34.600
<v Speaker 1>versus the Taliban, Yeah, that's not a very fair comparison,

2431
02:18:34.680 --> 02:18:37.040
<v Speaker 1>even with the Taliban having all of the weapons that

2432
02:18:37.079 --> 02:18:42.120
<v Speaker 1>we left there because of Biden's hasty evacuation for lack

2433
02:18:42.120 --> 02:18:46.319
<v Speaker 1>of better words, of Kabul. Even with that, yeah, I

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02:18:46.319 --> 02:18:48.040
<v Speaker 1>don't believe that it's going to be much of a

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<v Speaker 1>fight in the grand scheme of things. I could be wrong.

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02:18:51.520 --> 02:18:53.639
<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong. But again, there's a forty eight

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02:18:53.639 --> 02:18:57.479
<v Speaker 1>hour ceasefire that is currently under review for lack of

2438
02:18:57.479 --> 02:19:01.040
<v Speaker 1>better words, and we shall see if that does continue.

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<v Speaker 1>Sticking on with the BBC, let's talk about France real quick.

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02:19:06.120 --> 02:19:09.719
<v Speaker 1>The French Prime Minister backs freezing mcrone's pension reform to

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02:19:09.760 --> 02:19:14.079
<v Speaker 1>save the government. Yeah, the French government is also in

2442
02:19:14.120 --> 02:19:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a shutdown right now, and they are also having a

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02:19:16.920 --> 02:19:20.840
<v Speaker 1>whole prime minister dispute. We're not gonna spend too much

2444
02:19:20.840 --> 02:19:22.959
<v Speaker 1>time on this, but I figured we could lead this

2445
02:19:23.000 --> 02:19:26.440
<v Speaker 1>on at least somewhat of a semioka note with the

2446
02:19:26.440 --> 02:19:31.159
<v Speaker 1>world and the things. French Prime Minister Sebastian Lecornu has

2447
02:19:31.200 --> 02:19:34.840
<v Speaker 1>told Parliament that he backs suspending controversial twenty twenty three

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02:19:34.879 --> 02:19:37.840
<v Speaker 1>pension reforms in the face of crucial votes of no

2449
02:19:37.959 --> 02:19:41.239
<v Speaker 1>confidence later this week. The charges, which raised the retirement

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02:19:41.280 --> 02:19:44.760
<v Speaker 1>ah from sixty two to sixty four, were seen as

2451
02:19:44.760 --> 02:19:49.280
<v Speaker 1>a signature reforms in e Manuel mccrone's presidency. He is

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<v Speaker 1>a direct quote from him from Lacornu this autumn, I

2453
02:19:52.799 --> 02:19:55.440
<v Speaker 1>will propose to Parliament that we suspend the twenty twenty

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02:19:55.520 --> 02:19:59.280
<v Speaker 1>three pension reform until the twenty twenty seven presidential election,

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<v Speaker 1>corn who said to applause from the left wing parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Lecornu was reappointed prime minister last week, only four days

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02:20:06.639 --> 02:20:12.120
<v Speaker 1>after he resigned. He resigned and then was reappointed. But yeah,

2458
02:20:12.239 --> 02:20:15.200
<v Speaker 1>that's that's France for you, and needs the support of

2459
02:20:15.239 --> 02:20:19.239
<v Speaker 1>the socialist MP's in Parliament if his government is to survive.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposition parties on the far right and far left have

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<v Speaker 1>called confidence votes known as censure votes on the Cornu's

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02:20:27.760 --> 02:20:33.319
<v Speaker 1>government for Thursday morning and are demanding parliamentary elections. The

2463
02:20:33.360 --> 02:20:36.360
<v Speaker 1>Socialists said that they would be they would be prepared

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<v Speaker 1>to support the new government, but only if it promises

2465
02:20:38.920 --> 02:20:43.479
<v Speaker 1>to completely suspend the macrone's pension changes. If he does

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02:20:43.520 --> 02:20:47.200
<v Speaker 1>not explicitly say the words immediate and complete suspension of

2467
02:20:47.239 --> 02:20:51.680
<v Speaker 1>the pension reform, it will be censure. Socialist MP Laurent

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<v Speaker 1>Baummel said earlier on French TV. He is holding his

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02:20:55.479 --> 02:20:57.799
<v Speaker 1>destiny in his own hands. He knows what he has

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02:20:57.840 --> 02:20:59.520
<v Speaker 1>to do if he doesn't want to be the prime

2471
02:20:59.520 --> 02:21:05.760
<v Speaker 1>minister who resigns every week. Ee, that's a that's a statement.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, apparently your boy can't decide if he wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be prime minister or not. But all right, And

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<v Speaker 1>I could be wrong in this, like his sixth or

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<v Speaker 1>seventh time trying to resign and keeps getting put back

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<v Speaker 1>in the position. I could be wrong. The reforms were

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<v Speaker 1>finally pushed through Parliament in March twenty twenty three, less

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<v Speaker 1>than a year after McCrone was voted in for a

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<v Speaker 1>second presidential term. There have been months of political debate,

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<v Speaker 1>strikes and street protests, and in the end the bill

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<v Speaker 1>had to go through without a vote in Parliament using

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<v Speaker 1>a constitutional mechanism known as forty nine to three. Last week,

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<v Speaker 1>la Cornew said it was something many French people remembered

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<v Speaker 1>as a wound on democracy. On Tuesday, he made a

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<v Speaker 1>plan to the MPs that suggested or that suspending the

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<v Speaker 1>pension reform would cost four hundred million euros, which is

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent to three hundred and fifty pounds million pounds in

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty six and a further one point eight billion

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<v Speaker 1>euro in twenty twenty seven. This will have the compensated

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<v Speaker 1>or I'm sorry, this will have to be compensated by

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<v Speaker 1>other savings. Locorn who said Locorn who is France's third

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<v Speaker 1>prime minister in the past year. But even if he

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<v Speaker 1>does survive, he needs to get a budget through Parliament

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<v Speaker 1>that brings down a budget deficit headed for five point

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<v Speaker 1>four percent of the economic output this year. Cool so

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<v Speaker 1>their GDP is going into a deficit of five point

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<v Speaker 1>four percent. That's wild. France's public debt earlier this year

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<v Speaker 1>stood at three point four trillion euro which is all

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<v Speaker 1>or almost one hundred and fourteen percent of the GDP,

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<v Speaker 1>the third highest in the Eurozone after Greece and Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow Lecorn who has been one of mccrone's most loyal allies,

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<v Speaker 1>so his decision to row back on such a contested

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<v Speaker 1>reform shows how keen the president is to avoid further turmoil.

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<v Speaker 1>Felipe Agyon a gion I don't know, who was jointly

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<v Speaker 1>awarded the twenty twenty five Nobel Economics Prize on Monday,

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<v Speaker 1>said earlier that he also backed a suspension of the

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<v Speaker 1>pinch reform because it would still come at a smaller

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<v Speaker 1>cost than the insustainable or instability that would follow another

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<v Speaker 1>government collapse. Another government collapse. They show a quick little

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<v Speaker 1>image here of the French National Assembly breakdown of seats.

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<v Speaker 1>Long story short. The France unbowed holds seventy one seats,

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<v Speaker 1>the Communists holds seventeen seats, Ecologists hold thirty eight, the

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<v Speaker 1>Socialists hold sixty nine, The Assembly Alliance or Ensemble Alliance

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<v Speaker 1>holds one hundred and sixty one, the Republicans hold fifty,

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<v Speaker 1>the National Rally holds one hundred and thirty eight, and

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<v Speaker 1>the others hold thirty one. So anyway, they're basically trying

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid another French government collapsed to happen right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, they are having a real issue holding on

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<v Speaker 1>to prime ministers whatever. Anyway, Anyway, I think on that note,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to wrap up this episode of The

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<v Speaker 1>Cajun Night Live. I want to thank everybody for joining

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<v Speaker 1>me this evening. As we took a wild trip around

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<v Speaker 1>the world. We talked about America, we talked about some

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<v Speaker 1>states jerrymandering, we talked about some Trump bailout money to Argentina,

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<v Speaker 1>we talked about the Middle East, we talked about Gaza.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we did a pretty fair job of covering

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit everywhere today. Once again, thank you everybody

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<v Speaker 1>for joining me this evening and for everybody listening to

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<v Speaker 1>The Cajun Night. If you would like to join in

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<v Speaker 1>We are trying to build this to be a information

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<v Speaker 1>sharing community that gather once a week to just discuss

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<v Speaker 1>the goings and comings of the day to day for

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<v Speaker 1>the world. Again, thank everybody, I am the Cajun Knight

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<v Speaker 1>and as always God bless St
