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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to My on the Ball here on
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Speaker 3: I'm Steve, you're Dave.
Speaker 2: We've got Kobe uh coach old House can't call us
Speaker 2: at four, he's too Busy's in a meeting or something,
Speaker 2: so we'll have to get him tomorrow or Thursday. Probably tomorrow,
Speaker 2: so we'll see, maybe get him and Brian at the
Speaker 2: same day.
Speaker 4: So you have breaking news there, coch Yep, we got
Speaker 4: some stuff. Former Arizona guarden Mike Bibbie named Sacramento State
Speaker 4: head coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Does it say anything about his contract too, We already
Speaker 2: went to show not going to be very much.
Speaker 5: Yeah, sax State. What are they in Divisional one? I
Speaker 5: think they are they are, Yeah, I think they're very small.
Speaker 5: They played Arizona a few times years, would be like
Speaker 5: an early season game here, so that'll be you know,
Speaker 5: it's kind of curious, but we'll see that if that's
Speaker 5: what he wants to do, and maybe, like you said,
Speaker 5: it could be a stepping stone to something something else.
Speaker 2: I have no doubt, no doubt that he's gonna do well.
Speaker 2: He's a he's a tough coach. He's a tough coach.
Speaker 2: He and this is totally different because he did his
Speaker 2: high school coaching stint and might he won a number
Speaker 2: of titles.
Speaker 3: He's a tough dude.
Speaker 2: He's a demanding dude, and almost almost unlike today's coaches,
Speaker 2: he's probably a little tough on him.
Speaker 3: I would think. So he's kind of old school.
Speaker 5: And you know, his father was quite the coach and
Speaker 5: quite the player himself, so you know, I know they
Speaker 5: weren't close in his adult years, but still, you know,
Speaker 5: there has to be some some genetic connections there.
Speaker 3: Between him and he knows the game.
Speaker 2: And the one thing that made Bibby Bibbi was he
Speaker 2: was a smart i Q guy, right and any you
Speaker 2: fundamentally exactly, And that's that's what makes good coaches. I mean,
Speaker 2: Miles was the same way.
Speaker 5: But sometimes those guys don't make great coaches because they're
Speaker 5: expecting their players to.
Speaker 3: Well, to be like them. Yeah yeah, Michael Jordan like me,
Speaker 3: Yeah true, Yeah, Okay.
Speaker 4: Two more enter transfer portal for Arizona women's basketball. Skyler
Speaker 4: Jones was a late corner to Arizona's highly ranked sophomore class.
Speaker 4: The the athletic guard was originally committed to Missouri, enjoyed
Speaker 4: the Wildcats after decommitting from the Tigers. Katrina Zevich was
Speaker 4: a late corner for the year's freshman class. But that's
Speaker 4: the case with many international players. Both will be entering
Speaker 4: the portal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she has work to do. Yeah, that was yesterday's Jada.
Speaker 2: That's four big So I don't know, you know, there's
Speaker 2: so many things happen, Yeah, yeah, so many things, so
Speaker 2: many variable variables to the story. I would think that
Speaker 2: the coaching question has to be answered maybe first before
Speaker 2: players are going to want to come here wondering who
Speaker 2: the coach is going to be, Right, can still be
Speaker 2: the same situation, right, well, you yeah, you can't make
Speaker 2: that move unless you really definitely know.
Speaker 5: And everybody's in a rush, and you know, players are
Speaker 5: going to be jumping in into their under their new teams,
Speaker 5: probably by this weekend. I would think it goes fast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, lusus yeah, and then they change your mind, players.
Speaker 5: Get eliminated on Thursday or like on the men's side,
Speaker 5: you know, the lose teams that lose on Thursday and Friday,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna leave.
Speaker 3: They're on a new team by Monday, Yeah, somewhere else.
Speaker 2: And who knows what happens to the to the guy side,
Speaker 2: the men's side, because you know, well you saw the
Speaker 2: Borovich do fairly well in New Mexico.
Speaker 3: Yeah, help them.
Speaker 2: And then the kid I can't Marshal nis Is, who's
Speaker 2: the guy Makovis? Or he went to Saint Claire.
Speaker 3: I think he did. He did it well there, they
Speaker 3: didn't get into the tournament.
Speaker 5: Getting back to Bibbi, they say he's worth sixty million dollars.
Speaker 3: Now he's worth I don't.
Speaker 5: Think whatever his contract is just going to be a
Speaker 5: little extra added on to what he's worth.
Speaker 3: But I mean he made a lot of money as
Speaker 3: a pro. He was there fourteen year. Yeah, he made
Speaker 3: you know over one hundred million dollars player Oh that much? Yeah.
Speaker 5: So again this is I think you know, he's probably
Speaker 5: looking at this as just an opportunity to see do
Speaker 5: I like this?
Speaker 3: Do I want to do?
Speaker 2: Oh no, there's no doubt that he wants to do this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he's ninety seven, right, he was going to be nineteen
Speaker 2: and twenty. He's gotta be about forty eight ish. Does
Speaker 2: it say his age about forty eight? Forty seven?
Speaker 5: Yeah, born in nineteen seventy eight, so forty seven. Yeah,
Speaker 5: just had his birthday. Yeah, no, no, he's going to
Speaker 5: have his birthday, his birthday.
Speaker 2: One of the connections is his birthday is a day
Speaker 2: after mine many years later. Yeah, me many yearsly yeah. Yeah, gosh,
Speaker 2: you know when.
Speaker 5: He's a legend in Sacramento too, So that's going to
Speaker 5: probably be a little bit helpful in terms of marketing
Speaker 5: the team, and people are gonna want to come out.
Speaker 3: And see him play.
Speaker 5: They bet you know, history there had his his best
Speaker 5: years was with the Kings.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris Webber.
Speaker 4: Okay, unlv hires u of a alum, Josh Passner.
Speaker 3: Yep, yep.
Speaker 2: We said that fight saw about nine hundred thousand dollars
Speaker 2: a year about Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean coaches are being poached out of ESPN these
Speaker 5: days like they.
Speaker 3: Used to do. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, you know that's the whole thing. I don't know
Speaker 2: if it's for the good or bad day. But but
Speaker 2: people who watch that and they listen to these guys,
Speaker 2: they think, oh, they know what they're talking about.
Speaker 3: But does it translate?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who's the guy that with the GM
Speaker 2: at the at the Detroit Lions many years ago?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: Good, Dudet Mill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he made his mark in the TV booth
Speaker 2: and then the hired him. The one that it didn't
Speaker 2: work out. The guy that's we're doing it is the
Speaker 2: San Francisco Jim, the forty nine ers running back.
Speaker 3: I think give me a couple of more hints.
Speaker 2: San Francisco forty nine ers Jim. Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 3: John Lynch was, Yeah, he was the dB. I think
Speaker 3: that's that's him. I think that's it. I think that's
Speaker 3: he was. He was on the air, Yeah he was.
Speaker 2: But you know what I'm saying, that's where they get expected.
Speaker 2: Josh is on the earth. He's That's why I joked
Speaker 2: with him before, says, why would you want to go coach?
Speaker 2: You don't have to deal with all that craft. You're
Speaker 2: good at what you do here. He said, no, no,
Speaker 2: I want to coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in their blood.
Speaker 5: But it's interesting because you know, you're right, these guys
Speaker 5: that get these positions where they leave the sport, leave
Speaker 5: the coaching profession for a good year or two.
Speaker 3: Sometimes happens all the time.
Speaker 5: They go on TV and they sit there and watch
Speaker 5: and they kind of, you know, whatever problems they may
Speaker 5: have had JJ Reddick, you know in their last job
Speaker 5: that kind of gets washed away.
Speaker 3: I'll give you no.
Speaker 2: Steve Kerr, you know, he's kind of an exception. He's
Speaker 2: more of a people person too. I think you have
Speaker 2: to be that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were talking about I was talking about him
Speaker 5: with some friends and family this weekend, just about you know, isn't.
Speaker 3: He going to go into politics? I mean, what's what
Speaker 3: does he want to do. I wouldn't I wouldn't doubt that,
Speaker 3: But why would he do that? Yeah, I mean yeah,
Speaker 3: who knows.
Speaker 5: But I mean I think he's he's positioned himself to
Speaker 5: go in many different directions with if he wants to stop,
Speaker 5: I think he's probably go to the end of the
Speaker 5: Steph Curry contract whenever that is soon, I would think
Speaker 5: in the next couple of years, and then maybe make
Speaker 5: a move at that point to whatever is next, either
Speaker 5: going back to you know, running a team or back
Speaker 5: to TNT.
Speaker 3: Well, no, we'll get.
Speaker 5: Back to somewhere on broadcasting. Who knows where the games
Speaker 5: are going to be on all over the place start. No,
Speaker 5: he doesn't need the money, but does he want to
Speaker 5: stay connected to the game that might be open.
Speaker 3: And he's fifty eight ish, I think Okay.
Speaker 4: The New York Giants and free aging quarterback Russell Wilson
Speaker 4: have reached agreement Tuesday on a one year deal worth
Speaker 4: a to twenty one million, including ten point five million
Speaker 4: guaranteed to be mediocre.
Speaker 3: To game million. This is the end of the NFL
Speaker 3: salary is hard.
Speaker 5: Every every one or every quarterback is now in that
Speaker 5: in that twenty million range.
Speaker 2: Every one home I mean baseball, basketball or whatever they do.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's the salary cap just keeps rising
Speaker 5: because the TV money just keeps coming in. And that's
Speaker 5: the way it's going to be with basketball too. It's
Speaker 5: unbelievable numbers. What else anything else?
Speaker 3: Mm hmm not.
Speaker 4: They're not much today from breaking news, A little bit
Speaker 4: of a dry day and.
Speaker 2: You have anything go to an easy disserts form. I
Speaker 2: think the swim team left today to go to the
Speaker 2: n C Double as they're in Indianapolish anything with softball
Speaker 2: baseball for that.
Speaker 4: Jada Williams went to the transfer portal. Do we get Yeah,
Speaker 4: we've been talking about that. The Mike Bibie deal's fourteen years. No, no, no,
Speaker 4: no four years and the past Neers is a five
Speaker 4: year deal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just under under five million. Not bad money. I mean.
Speaker 5: Wildcat baseball eighteen and five having a nice Did they
Speaker 5: sweep or did they.
Speaker 3: Lost home game? Yet?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: Thirteen and no? Okay.
Speaker 5: So they are in action where I'm our home game
Speaker 5: against Seattle, you okay? And then they're home here for
Speaker 5: the weekend against Baylor. Always like those night games in
Speaker 5: the middle the week they're always kind of fun.
Speaker 3: To go too. So tomorrow and it won't be too
Speaker 3: it won't be too hot.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's gonna cool down a smidge, I think
Speaker 5: over the weekend. So Baylor comes in, they have some
Speaker 5: big twelve games. Baylor used to be pretty good in baseball.
Speaker 5: I'm not quite sure how they're doing this year, but
Speaker 5: it's good to see the Cats with Chip and the
Speaker 5: boys playing pretty well. Okay, Brandon summer Hill their top
Speaker 5: players out for like three weeks though, right, so he's
Speaker 5: injured one of their top players.
Speaker 3: What happened to him? I just saw he was injured, Okay, Okay,
Speaker 3: what else? Anything else? You got? Nothing else? That's it
Speaker 3: for today's breaking news.
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine. Maybe we'll get a call here. You
Speaker 2: can get a call five.
Speaker 3: Two four one hand injury by the way.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, just before we go to break here in
Speaker 2: about three four minutes, and then we get ahold of
Speaker 2: Ben Holland we'll have to get Todd hold house tomorrow
Speaker 2: or the day after, although I kind of want to
Speaker 2: spend most of the day on Thursday talking about the game.
Speaker 5: Are you available THURSD You're gonna You're gonna be uh,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna have a reviewing.
Speaker 3: You can do a show. Yeah, yeah, because it's a
Speaker 3: six three start, it should be fun fornight. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: a long day. Bamma plays b Yu first, do they? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Isn't that the first game? I don't know.
Speaker 2: I didn't pick work. I forgot. I have to want
Speaker 2: the first games too. Now I'm gonna watch it.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know. I don't know. All these TV's
Speaker 3: were going to get TV's. Maybe maybe we'll see we
Speaker 3: haven't yet.
Speaker 2: You want to go, let's go and come back and
Speaker 2: then we'll wait for Ben on the other side.
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Speaker 1: Breaking down all the ipsis at OHS. This is on
Speaker 1: the ball with Steve Rivera on Box Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to my on the Ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty.
Speaker 3: I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave Silver.
Speaker 2: Kobe will be looking at the phone for Ben Helan
Speaker 2: any second now, hopefully as as he's in southern California. Uh,
Speaker 2: and to talk about just his his stretch run here
Speaker 2: at the in.
Speaker 3: The tournament back in the day. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Man, three straight final fours, the three two, three consecutive
Speaker 5: two thousand and six, seven and eight, and run her
Speaker 5: up in two thousand and six.
Speaker 3: Three.
Speaker 5: God, I thought it was two who were like, maybe
Speaker 5: maybe my chat ept is wrong.
Speaker 3: No, No, you're probably right. Well that's that's probably right. Yeah,
Speaker 3: six seven and eight. Okay, Oh, we'll get her from Ben.
Speaker 3: We'll get the word from Ben.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I saw him here. We had him on the
Speaker 2: show where you A was here actually that night that day. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and he had just been here with to watch TCU
Speaker 2: play Arizona and uh.
Speaker 3: Because of Jamie Dixon.
Speaker 2: Jamie Dixon guys, m hm, remember they coached at the
Speaker 2: NAU together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamie was assistant to him.
Speaker 5: I think, you know, I don't I don't want to
Speaker 5: we don't have to bore him with this story. But
Speaker 5: I was working one of my second TV job was
Speaker 5: in San Luis Obispo, California, and he was at you see,
Speaker 5: Santa Barbara. So we were like, we would cover their games.
Speaker 12: You know.
Speaker 5: He was an assistant for like a coach named Jerry
Speaker 5: Pim Yeah, long time a c SB. Yes, so the
Speaker 5: PC double A teams. Yeah, I was well, New Mexico
Speaker 5: State was part of the right in San Diego State
Speaker 5: when I was in college, we were in the PC
Speaker 5: Double before we moved over into the whack of Arizona
Speaker 5: mid seventies.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, because I was in the mid eighties and
Speaker 2: that's but.
Speaker 3: Yeah, hot Ben Holland was.
Speaker 5: You know, he was an assistant coach there for a
Speaker 5: long time before he got the head coach.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't think I ever saw him personally, but we
Speaker 5: would cover their games and we'd show highlights, okay, some
Speaker 5: old time.
Speaker 2: All right, Yeah, so we'll bring that up. And I
Speaker 2: have some people here in town that wanted.
Speaker 5: To say, who had quite a run there in those
Speaker 5: three years.
Speaker 2: I went to those final fours, and I thought it
Speaker 2: was just two.
Speaker 3: I think it's three. Looks like here on Basketball Reference.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not gonna question that. I questioned myself before
Speaker 2: I questioned that. Yeah, players, he also had what's his name?
Speaker 2: They had two guys. You had Westbrook, right, and they
Speaker 2: had the big guy reboundery. God, my memories killing me.
Speaker 2: I'll be like, Jay, you're right that guy, that guy.
Speaker 3: NBA career. We paid for him. I thought he played
Speaker 3: for Steve. I don't know exactly. Maybe there's some kind
Speaker 3: of overlap. Maybe that. Okay, we gotta call hello, coaches,
Speaker 3: this shoe, Hello coaches, is Steve.
Speaker 2: Is a spin Ben coach? How are you go? Were
Speaker 2: doing fine? We wanted to picked your brain about the DENC.
Speaker 2: Do you miss this time of year giving your success
Speaker 2: in it?
Speaker 6: Well? You know this is these are the best three
Speaker 6: weeks every year of my life. I love it. You know,
Speaker 6: it's just so fun to follow. And again another incredible tournament.
Speaker 6: I mean, Colorado State was so impressive. What a heart
Speaker 6: gut renter for that was. But you just loved to see,
Speaker 6: you know, teams this time of year playing their very best.
Speaker 6: And I remember the last time I was on with you, Steve,
Speaker 6: I believe you know, that was way back in late
Speaker 6: December early January, and I'll tell you what, Arizona sure
Speaker 6: had a great season and I have a chance now
Speaker 6: to beat the number one team in Duke. So I
Speaker 6: hope the fans there in Tucson and everywhere that follow
Speaker 6: the Wildcats are really happy and proud of their team
Speaker 6: and proud of the fact they got such a great
Speaker 6: coach and Tommy Lloyd because he's done a masterful job,
Speaker 6: and you know, watching and following them, that half court
Speaker 6: actually a three quarter court yeah shot game was incredible.
Speaker 5: I mean, what a year, right, yeah, I mean, and
Speaker 5: he's been very very consistent really the last I don't
Speaker 5: know what, four or five games. That's kind of what
Speaker 5: everyone's kind of been waiting for, is they don't want
Speaker 5: to have that game where he's gonna go four for
Speaker 5: seventeen or something like that. But he's been pretty good
Speaker 5: about that most of the season and not really having
Speaker 5: too big of a plump in the middle of a
Speaker 5: game sometimes. So it's great if he can just be
Speaker 5: consistent because they seem to have the right ingredients.
Speaker 6: He's known to be pretty good this time of year.
Speaker 6: He has a good track record, and you know that
Speaker 6: one little play that they kept running over and over again.
Speaker 6: In the last was really effective where he ended up
Speaker 6: top the keys or the wide open tree or opportunity
Speaker 6: to penetrate and drive. But he's played great. You know,
Speaker 6: your stars are stepping up this time of year, and
Speaker 6: he's definitely been their start of the last two years.
Speaker 6: But I'm just excited for the tournament.
Speaker 13: You know.
Speaker 6: It's really interesting though, when you look at NIL and
Speaker 6: how much that's impacted the game. Now that everybody left,
Speaker 6: there's a power for conference, you know, with seven SEC,
Speaker 6: four Big twelve, four Big ten and only one from
Speaker 6: the ACC which hasn't happened in like the round of
Speaker 6: thirty two in like fifty years. Wow, you know, and
Speaker 6: you can tell who's got the most NIL. And it
Speaker 6: starts with the SEC quickly followed by the Big ten
Speaker 6: and the Big twelve.
Speaker 3: That's the deal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we talked about that, your coach, you know what,
Speaker 2: you talk about the nil and athletes and best best athletes.
Speaker 2: But you know what, I'm still a believer and the
Speaker 2: coaching matters. So coaching matters. I mean, you can have
Speaker 2: the talent of the wazoo and if you can't coach,
Speaker 2: you won't get there. Because I still believe guys like you. You
Speaker 2: got there three straight times, right, that didn't happen by accident.
Speaker 2: That didn't happen by accident one thousand percent.
Speaker 6: That's why Uh, I got a little uh talked from
Speaker 6: with you guys last time about well the fans aren't
Speaker 6: there and happy right now with Tommy. It's like, I,
Speaker 6: as a fellow coach, was just amazed because I don't
Speaker 6: think they know what they have in him, and I
Speaker 6: think he is really special and incredibly consistent and has
Speaker 6: been a part of winning for two decades. Uh. And
Speaker 6: I think you know, the coaches that remained, You know,
Speaker 6: the coaching profession is so rich with talent, but you know,
Speaker 6: the cream rise to the top, and you know what
Speaker 6: you have right now the tournament's left. It's it's really
Speaker 6: incredible how well coached they are. All that goes into
Speaker 6: the preparations reaching these games, and you know, the game
Speaker 6: changing decisions that are made, you know, based on how
Speaker 6: you're playing and personnel and foul trouble, et cetera. It's
Speaker 6: just really interesting to watch. I mean, I love this
Speaker 6: time of year. If you're at the absolute best.
Speaker 3: If you were to look into like.
Speaker 5: A crystal ball, do you think next year will see
Speaker 5: the sort of the same thing, the effect of nil
Speaker 5: and maybe this is the way college basketball is going
Speaker 5: to be here moving forward.
Speaker 6: I do I do believe that. I mean I believe that,
Speaker 6: you know, the teams were the best players that also
Speaker 6: pay to have the best coaches and coaching staffs and
Speaker 6: support their program. Of the teams, they're going to win
Speaker 6: and win the most consistently. So I'm not surprised at all,
Speaker 6: nor will I be in the future. I mean, I
Speaker 6: think you'll see, uh, you know, another league get represented.
Speaker 6: Whether you know Colorado State's right there. I think it
Speaker 6: comes down to the last you know, half a second
Speaker 6: of the game for them to lose that game against Maryland,
Speaker 6: and you talk about a great coach, Uh, you know
Speaker 6: that guy has proven to me how good he is.
Speaker 6: I mean, he is incredible. There's just so many good
Speaker 6: coaches and it's just fun to watch them.
Speaker 3: So if you've got to call X school.
Speaker 2: We think we talked about this before, Ben, If you
Speaker 2: got a call from X school that you wanted to
Speaker 2: go to, would you give up your grandkids from coaching
Speaker 2: them to go coach at school?
Speaker 6: No, I'm I'm happily a spectator now from Afar.
Speaker 2: Well, you know you see well now you see Kela
Speaker 2: Partie and you see Patino and these guys are still
Speaker 2: going on it.
Speaker 3: Did you get a kick out of them over the
Speaker 3: weekend too?
Speaker 6: Absolutely? I mean you look at the numbers that they
Speaker 6: put up over the years, et cetera. You know, and
Speaker 6: you know, John is I think about two years younger
Speaker 6: than he's probably about sixty six Rix in his seventies,
Speaker 6: I can't remember exactly. You know, that's great and I'm
Speaker 6: happy for them. And they have great jobs now, I
Speaker 6: mean especially you know cal you're talking about money. You
Speaker 6: know you have mister Walton, mister Tyson and mister Hunt.
Speaker 6: There's your boosters. You got a chance to care about
Speaker 6: the hogs down there in Arkansas. And what Tino did
Speaker 6: at Saint John tis the first time in thirty years
Speaker 6: to win the Big East. Yeah, you know, what he's
Speaker 6: done is miraculous and he is one of the greatest
Speaker 6: coaches ever, and that's great for them. I am really
Speaker 6: happy living in Santa Barbara, California. I count my blessings
Speaker 6: every day and I love ball and I loved coaching
Speaker 6: that it was, you know, my life. And when you're
Speaker 6: a coach in this day and age. More than any
Speaker 6: a time, it is twelve months a year. There is
Speaker 6: no time off. Every coach now in the country is
Speaker 6: trying to put together a new team because it's musical chairs.
Speaker 6: You know, I hate the more than anything. I hate
Speaker 6: the portal. I know the money's great. They should have
Speaker 6: a salary cap. You know, this year the cost of
Speaker 6: a player is going to go up another thirty to
Speaker 6: fifty percent from what it was last year. There has
Speaker 6: to be, you know, a limit because you know it's
Speaker 6: gonna really really didn't be the haves and have nots
Speaker 6: with many less halves than there are have nots.
Speaker 3: And what are your thoughts on here in Tucson.
Speaker 5: We've of course watched Sean Miller for a number of
Speaker 5: years and him now landing. You know, it looks like
Speaker 5: a great situation in Texas, speaking of money and speaking
Speaker 5: of opportunities, how do you think he'll do there after?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 3: Kind of.
Speaker 6: Great? I think you'll have a chance to win it all.
Speaker 6: I think they have brand new facilities. Uh, you know,
Speaker 6: it's a phenomenal job, unlimited resources. The only the only
Speaker 6: thing that I think is a little bit of a
Speaker 6: battle there is that they think basketball is what you
Speaker 6: have between football and springball. You know, it's not quite
Speaker 6: as important as as any as football football in the
Speaker 6: state of Texas. You know, it's ridiculous the fan support,
Speaker 6: but you know you're seeing a lot of schools now
Speaker 6: that get that it's really something that you can have both.
Speaker 6: You know, Alabama is a great example and the job
Speaker 6: that Nate oas is and you know they were their
Speaker 6: first Final four ever last year and there's a great
Speaker 6: chance so they can get there again this year. And
Speaker 6: that that's what you're seeing. You're going to see those
Speaker 6: leagues SEC being number one and Big ten being one
Speaker 6: B and then Big twelve being one C. You know,
Speaker 6: those are the teams where they have the most resources
Speaker 6: because they're fans and specifically their billionaire fans really care
Speaker 6: a lot about those universities and their programs success athletically.
Speaker 2: So we talked about Caleb earlier with love and not
Speaker 2: that he's the only guy on this team, because he
Speaker 2: has a good compliment of people. But do you back
Speaker 2: in the day you had Westbrook, you had love yourself
Speaker 2: another love. Did you have to write a guy one
Speaker 2: guy and then hope the other guys came around or
Speaker 2: did you have a complimentary group?
Speaker 3: I can't remember.
Speaker 6: Well, you know, we had great culture. I mean and
Speaker 6: uh you talked about leadership. You know, we had Bob
Speaker 6: Moute on those teams who was phenomenal and you know,
Speaker 6: dirty work guy. We had guys that, uh, you know,
Speaker 6: set the tone like Alfred the Boy and Lorenzo Matta.
Speaker 6: But no question, you know love in Westbrook Collis and
Speaker 6: you know how good was Darren Collison. He's had a
Speaker 6: nine year pro who who could have actually spent more
Speaker 6: time in the NBA if he'd so chosen. I mean,
Speaker 6: we had a lot of really good players and that's
Speaker 6: what it takes. And I agree with you. I think
Speaker 6: Arizona's got excellent talent. And to overcome the fact that
Speaker 6: they're starting BIG's been out for the whole year, uh,
Speaker 6: and to be able to make up for him. I
Speaker 6: don't remember the kid's name, the big kid that got
Speaker 6: in the foul trouble in the last game. Man, he
Speaker 6: was a stud. And he and the kid from when
Speaker 6: they really compliment themselves. Uh, they have, you know, two
Speaker 6: different looks coming at you. With those two, Radley's been spectacular.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: I love the freshman for man from California and Carter
Speaker 6: brac Donald's yeah, and he's spent now. He'll probably be
Speaker 6: in the NBA next year. I mean, uh that that'll
Speaker 6: be a hard one too to see how it all
Speaker 6: on Pulls. I I'm not following that right now, but
Speaker 6: whether it's a year from now or this company, he'll
Speaker 6: be in the NBA. You know, there's a big guy
Speaker 6: you can sup floor shoot. He's special, He's got a
Speaker 6: special talent, and that just speaks to what a great
Speaker 6: job they're doing recruiting there.
Speaker 2: So let me let me say go to your old
Speaker 2: didn't know. We're not gonna talk about basketball. We're gona
Speaker 2: talk about olt time basketball.
Speaker 3: Dave. Tell me your connection to to coach.
Speaker 5: So so you don't we've never met. I'm kind of
Speaker 5: Steve sidekick every once in a while. And I was
Speaker 5: a broadcaster in Tucson, but I was also broadcaster in
Speaker 5: San Luis Obispo before I came here, so we were
Speaker 5: we were together for a few years when you were
Speaker 5: at UCSB and I was up there covering cal Poly
Speaker 5: same years. I mean like I was there eighty one
Speaker 5: to eighty three, so we were side by side and
Speaker 5: I know we used to show your highlights. I don't
Speaker 5: know if I every even came down to a game
Speaker 5: because the market it was like ninety miles between the
Speaker 5: two cities. But I just want to say, it's nice
Speaker 5: to talk to you now after you know, all these
Speaker 5: years forty years ago, when we were young, young starting
Speaker 5: out in the broadcast the world and coaching world.
Speaker 3: It was funny. It was a good time. Mine was brown.
Speaker 3: And then here's another thing.
Speaker 2: Coach the guys at Pima, Brian Peabody and and they
Speaker 2: wanted to say hello, you know, to say hello to
Speaker 2: you because I guess Mike Morgan and those guys because
Speaker 2: they did really well. I don't know if you know that.
Speaker 2: They went thirty three and oh I went to the
Speaker 2: fin went to the semi finals of the JC tournament
Speaker 2: and they lost in the semi finals and finished third.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I know, I knew that. And Brian, he's spectacular
Speaker 6: coach at tol Point, did an unbelievable job, and you know,
Speaker 6: just great, great people and outstanding coaches. But uh, it's
Speaker 6: it's fun to be watching his career and uh, I'm
Speaker 6: glad he to be able to stay in the area
Speaker 6: there because They're lucky to have him. Uh, you know,
Speaker 6: basketball is really special in the Tucson area. And you know,
Speaker 6: for me, it all started with Loot. I mean, Luke
Speaker 6: created a monster and a love for basketball with all
Speaker 6: success that you know started really with him consistently winning
Speaker 6: at an incredible rate there at u of A. And uh,
Speaker 6: you know, just being back there in the building in
Speaker 6: December when I came to see PCU and Jamie Dixon
Speaker 6: platers on a what unbelievable fans.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 6: You know, there's no question that Michale's Center has some
Speaker 6: of the best fans in all of college basketball. And
Speaker 6: their support for their love for their team and how
Speaker 6: they travel. I mean it was like a home game
Speaker 6: the other night when they were playing. Yeah, they support
Speaker 6: there and love their cats, and it's just fun to
Speaker 6: have witnessed that. And they've played that environment with those
Speaker 6: UCLA teams that were really good and actually won a
Speaker 6: few of those games.
Speaker 2: So let me ask you real quickly. This might be
Speaker 2: a bizarre question because we talked about players. You know,
Speaker 2: the better players have better chances of winning a tournament.
Speaker 2: Did you ever scout the guys like lout the Montgomerys
Speaker 2: of the world were you know, it says, Okay, it's
Speaker 2: Loot's team, this is what we have to guard against,
Speaker 2: because I'm sure he had tendencies too.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean everybody does, every coach does, every team,
Speaker 6: and you just named two Hall of Fame coaches. I
Speaker 6: mean the fact that that Mike Montgomery's not in the
Speaker 6: Nasmith Hall of Fame just apples me because he's is
Speaker 6: was so good and so consistent at Stanford, which you
Speaker 6: can see how hard a job it is. I mean,
Speaker 6: you know, post Montgomery hasn't been close to with Montgomery, uh,
Speaker 6: you know, he really knew what he was doing, and
Speaker 6: he and Lude had a special bond. Those guys were
Speaker 6: like the two deans of the league. When I joined,
Speaker 6: but was in the back pen, and it was fun
Speaker 6: to see, you know, how much they respected one another
Speaker 6: and competed so hard against one another. But you know,
Speaker 6: both Long Beach guys initially from back when they knew
Speaker 6: each other.
Speaker 3: Right, And.
Speaker 6: You know, Lut's teams were so good offensively and so
Speaker 6: spaced out, you know, the way they spaced the floor
Speaker 6: and ran with their you know, great fast break and
Speaker 6: no question Lout was as good recruiter as anybody in
Speaker 6: the country. You know, you think about all the unbelievable players,
Speaker 6: and he really also recruited character. You talk with the
Speaker 6: high character guys like a Chud Buschler or you know,
Speaker 6: Steve Kerr or Sean Elliott. I mean, the list goes
Speaker 6: on and on and on and on. You know, the
Speaker 6: kind of kids that were recruited over the decades.
Speaker 3: To U of A.
Speaker 6: You know, that's what made I think those fans so
Speaker 6: falling up, along with the fact that you used to
Speaker 6: have guys who stayed for three and four years right
Speaker 6: to get to know and be a part of them.
Speaker 6: And those guys all love U of A and going
Speaker 6: back to tuc Suns so much to this day. It's incredible,
Speaker 6: you know how much they love their experience. And I
Speaker 6: would say the vast majority of guys that went on
Speaker 6: to you know, make it big in the pros, which
Speaker 6: are many still look upon their years as Arizona the
Speaker 6: highlights of their career. Guys, they do. That's just how
Speaker 6: it is.
Speaker 3: Right, You're yeah, I mean I love it.
Speaker 6: I loved it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: And that's what's specially about college.
Speaker 2: You're something like college right right right now, it's so
Speaker 2: transitory Hey, Ben, thanks for the call.
Speaker 3: We appreciate your time.
Speaker 6: Okay, good luck, good luck Wildcats.
Speaker 3: All right, thank you. I know that pain to say that.
Speaker 6: Hey, I want the West. We want the West to
Speaker 6: do well. Yeah, you're right, I want the West the
Speaker 6: way we need Arizona to beat Due. Yeah, let's go.
Speaker 3: Thanks Ben, take care, appreciate it. He's cheering for the cast.
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Speaker 1: on the Ball with Steve Rivera on Fox Sports fourteen
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to me on the ball here on
Speaker 2: Fox Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera, You're Dave Silver.
Speaker 3: Your Kobe. He was pretty fun. That was good.
Speaker 5: That was good talking nice things to say about the
Speaker 5: Wildcats and Luth. I mean they were rivals for a
Speaker 5: long time and yeah, you know, and they were on
Speaker 5: a side by side, great games.
Speaker 3: H him. How is Helen Montgomery and Lut? Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean really for a stretch of what ten
Speaker 5: years or so, when when he was at UCLA and
Speaker 5: Montgomery was always at Stanford, it seemed like, and you know,
Speaker 5: Loot was just kind of holding down four here. But
Speaker 5: those were the three teams in the Pac ten everybody
Speaker 5: wanted to see or once in a while, you know,
Speaker 5: in Oregon would sneak in there, but Washington would sneak in.
Speaker 3: But it was always those three for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Have your is already tweeting out that Ben Ben
Speaker 2: is saying, uh, beet duke.
Speaker 3: You know, I was gonna just kind of ask him kind.
Speaker 5: Of who does he Is he rooting for teams or
Speaker 5: is he rooting for his coaching buddies?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask Yeah you should asked it,
Speaker 2: because I was asking who he thought was gonna win.
Speaker 3: But we ran out of time. Yeah, I mean, he's you.
Speaker 5: Know, he's got all these coaches he's coached, you know,
Speaker 5: against and they're all a fraternity. They all kind of
Speaker 5: know each other. They recruit together and they stay close.
Speaker 5: I mean you could tell he and Lout were close
Speaker 5: in terms of just really you know, having you know,
Speaker 5: being friends and rivals as well, but you know, friendly
Speaker 5: on the recruiting trail they're doing, they're all doing trying
Speaker 5: to do the same thing. Yeah, you wonder how he
Speaker 5: is now where he's off to the side, he's looking
Speaker 5: at Oh, yeah, he.
Speaker 2: Was my you know, he was an assistant, right those
Speaker 2: coaching trees, Yeah, Lout had some. It's no longer. They're
Speaker 2: no longer out there. Well play now, but not coaches. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Oh it's a Rosboro. Rosboro's you know, doing really well.
Speaker 2: He's still coaching with the women. I think he's got
Speaker 2: some pretty good influence with them too. Yeah, I would think, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: anybody want to call, We have about ten fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2: It's about ten minutes, right, five to zero, four one, six,
Speaker 2: seventy four forty. If you try to get in yesterday,
Speaker 2: here's your chance. I think John was trying to get
Speaker 2: in and even team money into the show.
Speaker 3: Here's your chance.
Speaker 2: Maybe talk about the Cats real quick, see what you're
Speaker 2: hoping for this weekend or this week.
Speaker 5: Funny article on Yahoo's Sports about different types of final
Speaker 5: fours that we could possibly be seeing, and things like
Speaker 5: the brainiac final four.
Speaker 3: Would Duke would be Michigan.
Speaker 5: Florida Duke and Purdue, the party school final four. We're
Speaker 5: not in it, Arizona's not in it. It's Alabama, Old Miss,
Speaker 5: Florida and Tennessee.
Speaker 2: Who's the author is there? Always look at the author
Speaker 2: just to see if.
Speaker 3: Jeff Eisenberg no for Yahoo? Yeah, are you there anywhere?
Speaker 3: I don't think Arizona's in any of them.
Speaker 5: Don't chaos final four would be Old Miss, Arkansas, b
Speaker 5: YU and Purdue.
Speaker 3: Four teams that nobody would would be predicting.
Speaker 5: You have your bracket. You my bracket. My bracket is
Speaker 5: not terrible. I've got some of the teams surviving, but
Speaker 5: I'll be done probably.
Speaker 2: Everybody unless you hit those early upsets because everybody has
Speaker 2: the same teams.
Speaker 3: Exactly. It's chucky exactly. So I was talking to you
Speaker 3: earlier about it.
Speaker 6: I have b Y.
Speaker 3: You kind of advancing a little bit, you know, maybe maybe.
Speaker 5: Get to Alabama.
Speaker 2: That's give me a heck of a game because it's
Speaker 2: a bunch of old dudes, because that's by is crafty
Speaker 2: and they're very good. But Bama's Bama loves to run Nato.
Speaker 2: It's is just like your neighbor, you know. It comes
Speaker 2: out and does the laundry. He puts put your shorts
Speaker 2: on the laundry man.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he doesn't sit down, some of those coaches. It
Speaker 5: just never sits down.
Speaker 3: And he's a good old boy. No, he's just a
Speaker 3: good old boy. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Final four guaranteed to capture the NBA audience would be
Speaker 5: Michigan State, Maryland, Duke Houston because they're got a bunch
Speaker 5: of lottery picks on all those teams.
Speaker 2: Maryland survived. My son teaches and teaches he works at
Speaker 2: Maryland sent me in a cool Maryland top. So I've
Speaker 2: been worrying that a little.
Speaker 3: The wins spring practice.
Speaker 5: Final four, Michigan, Florida, Alabama, and Tennessee, all those football schools,
Speaker 5: but they're in the final four or in the Yeah.
Speaker 2: And it's very rare to have a football good football
Speaker 2: school and a basketball school. And maybe I just say
Speaker 2: that because it doesn't happen here.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but I mean, you know, Michigan of course, has
Speaker 5: had the history of yeah winning over the years. But Florida, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know, they won the two championships, but that you
Speaker 5: don't really hear much about them.
Speaker 3: But here they're still Yeah, we got a call. Okay, cool,
Speaker 3: you're in the air nine of the ball. Who's this, Jared?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 12: Hey?
Speaker 3: I was thinking the I think that they're going to
Speaker 3: have a better chance having.
Speaker 16: Lost to them already and then being an underdog.
Speaker 3: Tot agree with you, totally agree.
Speaker 2: In fact, in fact, I think that's a great point
Speaker 2: because Arizona I always and I talked to this with
Speaker 2: with Tommy today, that Arizona always shows up as an
Speaker 2: underdog and if you've already beaten them once, they'll be
Speaker 2: pissed off.
Speaker 6: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: So I think I think they're gonna nip them by
Speaker 3: three or four.
Speaker 2: I think, well, so if you're a gambling man, you
Speaker 2: take the points.
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, who's this again?
Speaker 3: Who's this?
Speaker 6: Jerry?
Speaker 3: Jerry? Thanks?
Speaker 6: God?
Speaker 3: You have you just your first time?
Speaker 6: Colin?
Speaker 3: Have you called before?
Speaker 11: Uh?
Speaker 3: Maybe the second time? Maybe? Okay? Cool?
Speaker 2: Wel Jerry, thanks for calling. I hope you enjoyed the show,
Speaker 2: all right, Ben, Yeah, thank you appreciate it. Take some
Speaker 2: more calls if you can.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it'd be curious to go back and see how
Speaker 5: how the UFA has done, you know, with second chances
Speaker 5: against some of these I wish teams you should do
Speaker 5: that story. No, no, I'm gonna do that story, but
Speaker 5: kind of in a non history.
Speaker 2: I want to do this, but you're can make me
Speaker 2: do some homework, maybe how Beer could do it for me.
Speaker 2: But but in covering them for all that time that
Speaker 2: I've covered them, it was very difficult. It's sweep Arizona
Speaker 2: in a year. I can't remember how many teams have
Speaker 2: did it or I've done it. I know when Luke's time,
Speaker 2: it was very difficult. Shawnstein probably the same because even
Speaker 2: if you go back to shann in your memory, he
Speaker 2: didn't get blown out very much. No, so you know
Speaker 2: he was always close within you know, seven or eight.
Speaker 2: Tommy's thing is he's got these gets, these double digit
Speaker 2: lead you just don't know if he's gonna hold it.
Speaker 2: That's kind of been his inmos.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, again, like Luke, how many seventeen
Speaker 5: and one seasons they weren't losing, you know, to the
Speaker 5: past ten teams. No, but there's always that occasional non
Speaker 5: conference game they're playing in you know, Hawaii or someplace
Speaker 5: or Vegas, and then they wind up facing them again
Speaker 5: in the tournaments. So those are it's always kind of
Speaker 5: cool to see if that happens and vice versa.
Speaker 2: I mean, they had it's always tough to be the
Speaker 2: team twice and Arizona've been up the guy be here.
Speaker 3: It wasn't even close.
Speaker 5: No, no, yeah, that's why I'm a little bit skeptical.
Speaker 5: You know, there's still a ten point underdog basically, and yeah,
Speaker 5: you know it's going to be a I don't know,
Speaker 5: I don't know with the court it's going to be
Speaker 5: it's a neutral site, but certainly you think there'd be
Speaker 5: more Duke fans.
Speaker 2: Well, remember because I had Brian on yesterday, Brian Peterson,
Speaker 2: and he's the numbers guy. Right, Duke came in and
Speaker 2: I think it was about the same amount of points
Speaker 2: last time in twenty eleven that they were favored over Arizona,
Speaker 2: and Arizona did away with that one going away.
Speaker 3: Right, right, right?
Speaker 5: So can Derek Williams come back and play like one more?
Speaker 5: One more games?
Speaker 3: You would need?
Speaker 2: Okay, who would be your who would be the Derek
Speaker 2: Williams not named Caleb here, Well, Caleb is dear Derek
Speaker 2: Williams in the start, I mean, who has to go again?
Speaker 5: You need him to get his twenty and you know
Speaker 5: a few other guys to get in the fifteen range,
Speaker 5: and they could be in position.
Speaker 2: I still think that maybe it could be kJ. kJ
Speaker 2: has that in him. Just remember at the beginning of
Speaker 2: the year he was one of the top NBA prospects
Speaker 2: on this team. He just didn't live up to it.
Speaker 2: But the last few weeks he's kind of moving that way.
Speaker 4: We got a call now, just breaking news stuff on
Speaker 4: Diggs just signed with the Patriots.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, you had talked about that Dave off
Speaker 2: the year. I think, yeah, I thought he might go
Speaker 2: to the Cowboys with his brother.
Speaker 5: And of course the is there any quarterbacks left besides
Speaker 5: Aaron Rodgers. I mean, there's Marcell We talked about Russell
Speaker 5: Wilson going to the Giants. Yeah, I don't want him anywhere,
Speaker 5: to hear me, But I mean the Vikings maybe is
Speaker 5: that the last.
Speaker 16: Well, the Steelers need a quarterback now. I guess he
Speaker 16: visited there last week, right, Yeah? Cardinals, Cardinals Cowboys.
Speaker 3: I didn't want them. I'm not even a Cowboy fan anymore.
Speaker 3: I don't want him there. Now.
Speaker 2: Okay, anybody calls, we'll be ready for you. You got about
Speaker 2: four minutes to talk about it. Yeah, it was funny
Speaker 2: because I've been pulling for Arizona the West. I mean,
Speaker 2: UCLA has been the last pretty much West team. Gonzaga
Speaker 2: went to the Final four two thousand and seven, teen eighteen,
Speaker 2: when Arizona should have been there with your with your
Speaker 2: Treer team, with the you know, DeAndre Ayton team Raally. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: the Buffalo, the Buffalo disaster. God, I still can't believe
Speaker 2: that one. That was a hard one to watch. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they didn't want to be there. They didn't want to
Speaker 2: be there, so we'll see.
Speaker 5: Well using that quote again, that was the Idea Barnes
Speaker 5: quote kind of oh yeah, the men after they're they're
Speaker 5: loss in that, no question. Oh they didn't really want
Speaker 5: to play well.
Speaker 2: Jane and I got into our little conversation here and
Speaker 2: he said, yeah, they're going to go to the postseason.
Speaker 2: Wn I t whatever is. I said, I don't think
Speaker 2: they're going to accept it. I don't think they would
Speaker 2: accept it. And I was totally wrong with that. But
Speaker 2: for the reasons I thought they would accept it. That
Speaker 2: season was over. It was already kind of a haphazard,
Speaker 2: crazy finish. Oh would you want to prolong it? And
Speaker 2: as it turned out, they didn't want to prolong it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean just the fact that they publicly said that
Speaker 5: I was a little bit strange.
Speaker 3: What did you the coach to come out and say
Speaker 3: that one? Did you literally want to play? Did you
Speaker 3: listen to the press commerce Oh? No, I saw the quotes.
Speaker 3: You got the quotes. Okay, if you listen to the
Speaker 3: press corp.
Speaker 2: They're very telling with one of the players, she's finishing
Speaker 2: her school year.
Speaker 3: Oh what do you miss?
Speaker 2: Well, I'll miss some of my players, my coaches, but
Speaker 2: I'm being honest, some of my players, some of my teammates.
Speaker 3: That tells you a lot, you know, of dysfunction.
Speaker 5: I think this year, without question, you know, for it
Speaker 5: to come to a crashing and the way it seems
Speaker 5: to be working and not.
Speaker 3: To get a shot off, It was like do I
Speaker 3: have to shoot this? I want to do this? End
Speaker 3: is I don't know?
Speaker 5: Yeah, Young athletes, old athletes getting getting getting moody at
Speaker 5: the they shouldn't be doing this at the ages of twenty.
Speaker 2: They should be excited to well to the points of
Speaker 2: the fans. I mean, they've spent money on this. They
Speaker 2: go to get excited and they back you and then this. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I shaved my legs for this. Any calls, We're good, Okay,
Speaker 2: We're just too exciting for people to call.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, we had a few calls. Ahually we only got
Speaker 2: about two minutes anyway, right, got about two minutes before
Speaker 2: the end tomorrow.
Speaker 3: You're not in tomorrow? Right? But are you in Thursday?
Speaker 3: And I'm not sure if I'll be able to make
Speaker 3: it Thursday? But okay, didn't you tease me with that day?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I may have to renegotiate my contract.
Speaker 2: No, I have no NA, you'll be you'll be working
Speaker 2: for DK next time. No, No, I think we're gonna
Speaker 2: uh I get I have a don't I have uh
Speaker 2: blake tomorrow? Probably Jay on Friday Thursday. I'm still trying
Speaker 2: to forget what we do because that's the day of
Speaker 2: the game. Yeah, you're gonna call him sick because you
Speaker 2: want to watch your games, right.
Speaker 3: Which a smart move. It's after the show you you
Speaker 3: can talk about it. I might, I might, I might. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you can't come in.
Speaker 2: I gotta gotta watch your games because they're all they're all.
Speaker 3: They're not all day, but they're no, they're just after
Speaker 3: evening yeah, early afternoon. Yeah, okay, all right? Are we
Speaker 3: good there?
Speaker 4: Yeah we're good to go.
Speaker 2: Okay, good, Thanks everybody those who called, Thanks Ben, Helen,
Speaker 2: Sorry Todd. We'll get ahold of you at another time
Speaker 2: and talk more