WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.880 --> 00:00:03.560 All right, we continue on Fred Rogan, Rodney peat An 2 00:00:03.600 --> 00:00:12.240 Am seventy LA Sports. Okay, one hour down, one hour down. Whoa, 3 00:00:13.919 --> 00:00:17.399 I'm exhausted Tree, you know. I'm just sitting here, Rodney, 4 00:00:17.399 --> 00:00:19.600 And I was telling Adam in the booth over there 5 00:00:20.440 --> 00:00:22.800 during the break, I have no idea. But the more 6 00:00:22.800 --> 00:00:25.320 I think about this, the more upset I get. Does 7 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:27.320 that make any sense to you? The more you think 8 00:00:27.320 --> 00:00:31.359 about what what makes you upset? What's making the upset 9 00:00:31.480 --> 00:00:36.159 is they're not hitting. It's not my business, but that's 10 00:00:36.240 --> 00:00:40.119 upsetting me. That to a point now it's like upsetting 11 00:00:40.759 --> 00:00:44.240 another thing that's upsetting me as we sit here right now. 12 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:46.799 By the way, everything will be fine if they win tonight. 13 00:00:47.039 --> 00:00:50.679 But another thing upsetting me is you are in your 14 00:00:50.759 --> 00:00:54.520 most critical game of the entire season, and you have 15 00:00:54.759 --> 00:00:59.000 so many pitchers who have needed Tommy John surgery that 16 00:00:59.079 --> 00:01:00.479 you don't have one. 17 00:01:01.960 --> 00:01:03.719 Think about that for Game four. 18 00:01:03.880 --> 00:01:07.280 Yeah, the Los Angeles Dodgers, and if you look at 19 00:01:07.319 --> 00:01:11.599 the young pitchers they have, they're pretty good, but they've 20 00:01:11.640 --> 00:01:15.159 all needed Tommy John. So how can the Los Angeles 21 00:01:15.239 --> 00:01:20.200 Dodgers in their most critical game of the season not 22 00:01:20.359 --> 00:01:24.799 have a starting pitcher and I don't know why. It's 23 00:01:24.840 --> 00:01:26.560 all right, let's just bring Dylan Hernandason. 24 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:30.239 Hello, Dylan, Hey Fred, how are you good? 25 00:01:30.239 --> 00:01:32.120 Am I sitting here just losing my mind? 26 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:35.760 No, I mean I kind of I get it, you know. 27 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:38.799 I mean, I think the pitching has been a problem. 28 00:01:38.840 --> 00:01:41.719 I mean, frankly though, given the starting pitching that they've 29 00:01:41.760 --> 00:01:45.040 been getting so far, you know, if the bullpen game 30 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:46.879 might actually be what they need. I mean, the bullpen 31 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.040 is the strength of the team, and if you've looked 32 00:01:49.040 --> 00:01:51.719 at the first three games, you know, the portions pitched 33 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:53.959 by the starters are basically a period that they've kind 34 00:01:53.959 --> 00:01:56.680 of had to endure, you know, before handing off the 35 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.120 ball to the bullpen. So why not kind of cut 36 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:01.400 out the bad part. It's not a sustainable thing, obviously, 37 00:02:01.640 --> 00:02:03.319 you know, the bullpend's gonna die if you just keep 38 00:02:03.359 --> 00:02:07.400 doing this game after game. But for today, actually, I think, 39 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:09.159 you know, I'd rather I'd much rather have him out 40 00:02:09.159 --> 00:02:13.080 there than Gamamoto or Clarity or you know, or Walker Buehler. 41 00:02:15.039 --> 00:02:16.120 Yeah, yeah, I think so. 42 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:18.599 I think the bullpen and the way they've been pitching 43 00:02:18.680 --> 00:02:23.400 lately is the strength of that staff, and if they can, 44 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:26.800 if they can sustain We've been saying this all series long. 45 00:02:26.879 --> 00:02:28.400 All they got to do is keep it close. And 46 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.000 we've been saying that about the starting pitching. Keep it close, 47 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:35.199 keep it close, and and not get off to a 48 00:02:35.240 --> 00:02:37.960 bad start. I mean that is that is also key. 49 00:02:38.000 --> 00:02:38.240 Dylan. 50 00:02:38.319 --> 00:02:40.319 Yeah, Now last night Mookie hit the home run put 51 00:02:40.360 --> 00:02:42.639 them up one nothing, but right after that they go 52 00:02:42.759 --> 00:02:47.240 down six to one. I mean, I just feel in 53 00:02:47.360 --> 00:02:49.919 this game, in particular in the fourth game and in 54 00:02:50.000 --> 00:02:53.599 the elimination game, they cannot get behind early. 55 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:53.960 Dylan. 56 00:02:55.199 --> 00:02:57.479 Yeah, you know, and again I think we've talked about 57 00:02:57.680 --> 00:02:59.879 striding out for a year is just you know what, 58 00:03:00.000 --> 00:03:04.000 but what's suitable, what's acceptable in the regular season, pitching wise, 59 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:06.120 sometimes just doesn't cut it at all in the postseason. 60 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.319 And that's what we're seeing here, right. I mean, you know, 61 00:03:08.400 --> 00:03:11.280 Yamamoto clarity, these guys are perfectly fine. If you need 62 00:03:11.280 --> 00:03:14.560 to go beat the Rockies on a random Wednesday, you know, 63 00:03:14.599 --> 00:03:16.520 you play against a team like the Padres, it's a 64 00:03:16.520 --> 00:03:19.120 little bit different, you know, And and you know, I 65 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.479 do think you know, to friend's point about you know, 66 00:03:21.520 --> 00:03:25.080 all the guys getting injured. You know, obviously there is 67 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.840 right that the Dodgers do prioritize velocity. You know, higher 68 00:03:27.879 --> 00:03:30.840 velocity does lead to injuries, So there is something kind 69 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:33.520 of going on player development wise there. You can say, 70 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.199 you know, I guess that, like, let's just say, I 71 00:03:36.199 --> 00:03:38.280 mean to kind of take a very callous view of 72 00:03:38.280 --> 00:03:40.599 this whole thing, that if starting pitchers are kind of 73 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:42.439 now what running backs are in the NFL, right, and 74 00:03:42.439 --> 00:03:44.479 that they're going to have short life spans and whatever, 75 00:03:44.800 --> 00:03:46.879 and that this is just kind of a way of life. Okay, 76 00:03:46.879 --> 00:03:50.080 that's fine. The thing is where this thing really went 77 00:03:50.120 --> 00:03:52.159 wrong though, was you know, when they went out and 78 00:03:52.240 --> 00:03:54.759 kind of made their big money acquisitions, and in the 79 00:03:54.800 --> 00:03:57.560 pitching it was Tyler Glass. Now they're expecting him to 80 00:03:57.599 --> 00:03:59.560 stay healthy for the whole year, even though he's never 81 00:03:59.599 --> 00:04:02.439 been helped be in his entire life. And then you know, 82 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:04.639 the big money on Yamamoto where they kind of expected 83 00:04:04.719 --> 00:04:06.960 him to kind of make a seamless transition, you know, 84 00:04:07.000 --> 00:04:09.680 and and obviously, you know, I was very excited. You guys, 85 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:11.560 remember I came out and said, hey, I think it 86 00:04:11.639 --> 00:04:13.439 might be able to win the World Series after watching 87 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:16.120 Yamamoto pitch four innings in that comeback start. Of is 88 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:18.000 because that was kind of the first time where you 89 00:04:18.279 --> 00:04:20.519 looked at somebody and we're like, oh, this guy looks 90 00:04:20.519 --> 00:04:22.120 like a like a real ace, right, who might be 91 00:04:22.120 --> 00:04:24.319 able to carry them in October. But he's kind of 92 00:04:24.600 --> 00:04:26.360 you know, regressed to the means, so to speak. It 93 00:04:26.399 --> 00:04:28.639 hasn't looked good. And yeah, you know, I just think 94 00:04:28.680 --> 00:04:30.759 that again, like those kind of those those big ticket 95 00:04:30.959 --> 00:04:33.040 acquisitions that they made on the pitching side. You know, 96 00:04:33.079 --> 00:04:35.199 to their credit, they did make the investment, right, it 97 00:04:35.360 --> 00:04:37.240 just it just didn't pan out the way they had hoped. 98 00:04:38.040 --> 00:04:42.800 Okay, so uh that's that. This is this Uh how 99 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:43.759 do you see tonight going? 100 00:04:45.279 --> 00:04:47.519 I actually think they have a pretty decent chance of 101 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:50.319 winning this thing. You know, I'm not crazy about the 102 00:04:50.480 --> 00:04:53.519 you know, from the PAJS vantage point of bringing back 103 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:57.240 Dylan Cease on short rest, right. I mean unless maybe 104 00:04:57.279 --> 00:04:58.920 the idea there is to have him go through the 105 00:04:59.079 --> 00:05:01.519 you know, the Dodger line up once. I would not 106 00:05:01.560 --> 00:05:04.160 watch sees facing Goltani a second time for sure. You know, 107 00:05:04.800 --> 00:05:09.240 there's Steels slightly oddly kind of desperate almost on their part, 108 00:05:09.319 --> 00:05:10.920 right where it's like, hey, we got you know, we 109 00:05:11.199 --> 00:05:13.480 got them down. We need to finish this now. It 110 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.600 has that type of feel to it. I don't think 111 00:05:15.680 --> 00:05:19.120 that's you know, that's great there from their side, you know, 112 00:05:19.160 --> 00:05:21.480 I mean, they're gonna be probably regardless of you know, 113 00:05:21.560 --> 00:05:23.360 how CeCe does, is probably gonna be close to a 114 00:05:23.439 --> 00:05:25.480 bullpen game there for him. I do think what we've 115 00:05:25.560 --> 00:05:27.480 seen so far as that the Dodgers do have a 116 00:05:27.519 --> 00:05:29.319 better bullpen than the Padres. You know, when they're throwing 117 00:05:29.360 --> 00:05:31.360 out their top guys, you forget about the game too, 118 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.120 thing because that thing was out of hand, and you know, 119 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:35.360 the Dodgers just kind of started throwing in their white flag, 120 00:05:35.439 --> 00:05:37.959 so to speak. But yeah, and then you know the 121 00:05:38.319 --> 00:05:40.319 lineup I assume they're gonna I mean, the fact that 122 00:05:40.399 --> 00:05:43.639 they were even in like striking distance last night, I 123 00:05:43.759 --> 00:05:46.399 do think speaks to just how explosive is Dodgers' offense is. 124 00:05:46.439 --> 00:05:48.560 And I know, you know, the last few innings obviously 125 00:05:48.600 --> 00:05:51.399 didn't look great, but it's tough, you know, when when 126 00:05:51.399 --> 00:05:53.120 the other teams kind of bringing in relievers and they 127 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:56.040 can kind of pick out their matchups. But I think 128 00:05:56.199 --> 00:05:58.120 that they actually have a pretty good chance of sending 129 00:05:58.199 --> 00:05:59.800 this back to light for Game five. 130 00:06:00.480 --> 00:06:02.040 Yeah, I agree with you on the pitching side of 131 00:06:02.079 --> 00:06:04.639 it that I think it's good for the Dodgers with 132 00:06:04.759 --> 00:06:06.959 this game, with their their staff and he's still got 133 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:09.720 you know, Evan Phillips and Blake trying and are fresh. 134 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:14.079 Copec probably can go if he has to. I think, uh, 135 00:06:14.480 --> 00:06:16.920 you know, Bessie is is fresh again because he had 136 00:06:17.040 --> 00:06:20.240 the And then I am I'm with you on on 137 00:06:20.480 --> 00:06:23.439 why they would go with cease right now. It does 138 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:25.680 feel like it's it's desperate, like they feel like they 139 00:06:25.759 --> 00:06:29.160 got to try to close it out tonight or they're 140 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:30.199 in trouble game five. 141 00:06:31.240 --> 00:06:35.040 But I'm just I just it's head scratcher. I guess 142 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:37.319 this is to me, Dylan, what do you see? 143 00:06:38.720 --> 00:06:40.279 And I know there are a lot of factors, there 144 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:42.959 are a lot of you know, storylines with this game 145 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:43.800 coming up tonight. 146 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:46.959 But for you, what is the biggest thing that has 147 00:06:47.040 --> 00:06:50.120 to happen for the Dodgers to have success? Uh? 148 00:06:50.160 --> 00:06:51.759 Well, they got to hit, you know. I think, uh, 149 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.720 I think it was a good sign yesterday that Mookie bets. 150 00:06:54.800 --> 00:06:57.600 You know, I think there was kind of this feeling 151 00:06:57.680 --> 00:06:59.160 right even though in game two and I'm not you know, 152 00:06:59.199 --> 00:07:01.439 and look I wrote about BOOKI not hitting. 153 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:01.759 I'm not. 154 00:07:02.000 --> 00:07:03.800 If I'm gonna be honest, now, like, looking back, I'm 155 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:05.680 not sure it's entirely fair given that you know, he 156 00:07:05.839 --> 00:07:07.480 was dropped up a home runner at first at bat 157 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.519 right in Game two. But you know, he hit one 158 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:13.519 out yesterday, you know, got another hit later in the game. 159 00:07:14.439 --> 00:07:16.439 If he's going, you know, he and Otany are going 160 00:07:16.519 --> 00:07:17.839 to have to carry the team. I think I don't 161 00:07:17.839 --> 00:07:19.600 think it's just going to be you know, because yesterday, 162 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:22.639 you know, we got one guy going in bets. You know, 163 00:07:22.720 --> 00:07:25.279 Otani obviously just hasn't hit it. I think he's like, 164 00:07:25.360 --> 00:07:27.040 what like one for his last ten or zero for 165 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:29.439 his last ten or something ticks punch outs, I think 166 00:07:29.480 --> 00:07:31.839 in his last ten at bats, you know, So it 167 00:07:31.879 --> 00:07:33.639 hasn't been great for him, But he those two guys 168 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:35.639 are gonna have to carry the team like they have 169 00:07:35.800 --> 00:07:38.680 for a lot of this season, because yeah, I do 170 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:40.680 think that even though the bullpen might be able to 171 00:07:40.759 --> 00:07:43.120 keep it relatively low scoring, at some point they're gonna 172 00:07:43.120 --> 00:07:44.959 have to hit. And right now, what we've seen really 173 00:07:45.079 --> 00:07:46.879 in the last couple of games the bottom of the lineup, 174 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:48.759 you know, which is such a big factor in Game 175 00:07:48.839 --> 00:07:51.519 one and probably led to a tony success in Game one, 176 00:07:51.600 --> 00:07:54.240 right because when Altani would come up the day he 177 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:56.319 had guys on base, right, So that really pointed to 178 00:07:56.360 --> 00:07:58.319 the production of the bottom of the lineup that hasn't 179 00:07:58.399 --> 00:08:00.519 happened in the last couple of games. So well, you know, 180 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:02.560 I think if somebody's going to jump start it, I 181 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:04.439 think it comes down to the stars. I've always been, 182 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:08.519 you know, very adamant that, right. You know, every winter, 183 00:08:08.600 --> 00:08:10.120 I've always said the Dodgers need to go out to 184 00:08:10.120 --> 00:08:11.720 get stars. And this is why, for this time of 185 00:08:11.720 --> 00:08:14.040 the year, those are the two best players on the team. 186 00:08:14.120 --> 00:08:16.079 Right now, I think it's up to Twani and Bet 187 00:08:16.399 --> 00:08:17.199 to get the job done. 188 00:08:17.319 --> 00:08:19.720 Yeah, Jel, I've made the point, and I'm glad you 189 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:23.519 agree with this. Look, guys that are stars or superstars 190 00:08:23.560 --> 00:08:26.040 are compensated in that manner. This is when they need 191 00:08:26.120 --> 00:08:28.000 to show up. This is when they earn their money. 192 00:08:28.639 --> 00:08:32.000 This is why they get paid, this is why they're superstars, 193 00:08:32.360 --> 00:08:36.240 because it's at this time where they've got to stand up. Great, 194 00:08:36.279 --> 00:08:39.480 you had a nice game against Pittsburgh in August. That's terrific, 195 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:42.919 But now it counts now it matters. I think the 196 00:08:43.080 --> 00:08:46.679 problem is you can't just force somebody to do that. 197 00:08:46.879 --> 00:08:47.519 You know, Dylan. 198 00:08:48.879 --> 00:08:51.200 Yeah, and I think baseball in that sense, it's a 199 00:08:51.279 --> 00:08:55.519 really difficult game, right. It's not you know, uh, in basketball, 200 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:56.840 you can just say like, Okay, you know what, we're 201 00:08:56.840 --> 00:08:59.039 gonna give the guy, We're gonna give the Lebron the 202 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.720 ball on everything. You know, you can't do that in baseball. 203 00:09:01.759 --> 00:09:03.360 You're limited by the number of that bats you have. 204 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:06.399 It's also not the type of sport where you know 205 00:09:06.639 --> 00:09:08.480 just because you try harder, you're going to get results. 206 00:09:08.480 --> 00:09:10.559 I mean, if anything, a lot of times the opposite, 207 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:12.720 opposite thing happens, right, And we did see it last night. 208 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:14.639 I thought, you know, to me, the most telling at 209 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:17.399 bat last night for Otani was the first one the 210 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:21.039 Laevey struck out on five pitches or six pitches. None 211 00:09:21.080 --> 00:09:23.360 of those pitches were in the strike sholl right, so 212 00:09:23.480 --> 00:09:25.960 he actually he was chasing stuff out of the zone. 213 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:28.360 That to me tells me that he's kind of getting jumpy, 214 00:09:28.399 --> 00:09:31.320 he's getting a little restless and kind of you know, 215 00:09:31.879 --> 00:09:35.279 staying right while being focused and having that intensity, kind 216 00:09:35.279 --> 00:09:37.559 of staying within yourself. That's a really tough. 217 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:38.080 Balance, right. 218 00:09:38.200 --> 00:09:41.720 And now I do like these two guys in terms 219 00:09:41.759 --> 00:09:44.320 of like you know, from like a character standpoint. Obviously, 220 00:09:44.360 --> 00:09:46.879 we've seen Atani step up in big moments time after time, 221 00:09:47.600 --> 00:09:49.600 and I think we've seen you know, I do like 222 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:52.440 where Mookie Betts is right now. You know, after Game two, Look, 223 00:09:52.519 --> 00:09:54.720 he didn't he didn't point to the the you know, 224 00:09:54.759 --> 00:09:56.360 the home run where he got robbed and said, hey, 225 00:09:56.399 --> 00:09:58.960 I actually did something. He just kind of took it like, look, 226 00:09:59.000 --> 00:10:01.720 I'm not getting the job done right. And even the 227 00:10:01.759 --> 00:10:04.879 one that Profar stole from him, you know, his thing was, hey, 228 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.440 it doesn't matter, it didn't count. As far as I'm concerned, 229 00:10:07.519 --> 00:10:10.000 that's an out right. All my bats so far have 230 00:10:10.039 --> 00:10:12.679 been bad because they've been out and he responded. 231 00:10:12.840 --> 00:10:13.000 You know. 232 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:15.600 So I do think that these guys are very cognizant 233 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:18.240 of their responsibility. I don't think either guy is running 234 00:10:18.279 --> 00:10:20.840 from it. And uh, you know, I think I'm encouraged 235 00:10:20.879 --> 00:10:23.200 by what we saw from Beth yesterday, and I'm encouraged 236 00:10:23.240 --> 00:10:26.240 by Otani's history of big, big moments. 237 00:10:26.879 --> 00:10:30.080 Yeah, yeah, and we'll see. Because I think you're right 238 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.840 about baseball. You know, it's different than than basketball, even football. 239 00:10:35.000 --> 00:10:37.960 Baseball it becomes contagious, you know when you see that 240 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:40.360 with the teams that are going right now. With the Mets, 241 00:10:40.879 --> 00:10:44.039 I mean, Lindor gets it going, and it's contagious, you know, 242 00:10:45.200 --> 00:10:47.399 the big polar Bear gets it going. It's contagious for 243 00:10:47.480 --> 00:10:51.000 the rest of the team. And and with the Padres, 244 00:10:51.039 --> 00:10:53.080 I mean you look up and down that lineup. You know, 245 00:10:53.279 --> 00:10:56.279 everybody's now scary. I mean, and not just Tatis, but 246 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:58.759 it's you know, obviously Matado and it's a Rose who 247 00:10:58.759 --> 00:11:02.440 has not even really gotten really going yet, you know, 248 00:11:02.559 --> 00:11:05.120 Profar all those guys. You look up and and Fred 249 00:11:05.120 --> 00:11:06.720 and I talked about it. You look at but that 250 00:11:06.840 --> 00:11:08.480 line and we goes, oh no, this guy's up, he's 251 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:10.679 gonna get it hit. Oh no, here, Oh, you got 252 00:11:10.799 --> 00:11:14.480 to get this guy out because Merrill's on deck. I mean, 253 00:11:14.519 --> 00:11:19.080 they're just it becomes contagious in baseball. And the Dodgers 254 00:11:19.480 --> 00:11:22.720 just need that catalyst, which should be Otani because he's 255 00:11:22.759 --> 00:11:25.519 leading off and it has been Otani for the better 256 00:11:25.559 --> 00:11:29.000 part of the season to light that fires. What is 257 00:11:29.120 --> 00:11:30.240 contagious for the Dodgers. 258 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:33.879 Yeah, and you know, I think with Otani right, and again, 259 00:11:33.919 --> 00:11:36.519 I'm not sure how much they talk to him at 260 00:11:36.519 --> 00:11:38.120 this point. Obviously he's one to right, he's the best 261 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.600 player in the game. He's almost kind of beyond reproach 262 00:11:40.679 --> 00:11:42.960 in some ways. But if I'm the Dodgers, I would 263 00:11:43.039 --> 00:11:45.600 remind Otani, hey, look, you're you're batting leadoff, you know, 264 00:11:45.679 --> 00:11:48.600 And we have to remember, right when when his approach 265 00:11:48.679 --> 00:11:51.000 really kind of changed this season when he moved into 266 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:54.759 that leadoff spot. You know, in Japan, you know, they 267 00:11:54.840 --> 00:11:56.799 still kind of think of baseball in a lot of 268 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.480 like in very traditional terms, and you know, when he 269 00:12:00.120 --> 00:12:02.759 moved into that leadoff spot, I think he started thinking, 270 00:12:02.759 --> 00:12:05.159 you know what, my job is to just get on base, right, 271 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:07.360 And it really did change the way he hit. And 272 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:09.960 you know, because his power is so great, right, I mean, 273 00:12:10.000 --> 00:12:11.720 sometimes you can just half hit a ball. I mean 274 00:12:11.759 --> 00:12:13.879 we're seeing him like golf balls off the ground basically, 275 00:12:14.240 --> 00:12:17.080 you know, and hit him ten rows up into the pavilion. 276 00:12:18.200 --> 00:12:18.360 You know. 277 00:12:18.399 --> 00:12:19.759 I think he needs to kind of get back to 278 00:12:19.879 --> 00:12:21.799 that point of like just thinking, Okay, you know what 279 00:12:21.919 --> 00:12:23.840 my job right now. It's a kind of set the 280 00:12:23.919 --> 00:12:26.320 table for the guys behind me, and I think good 281 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:28.639 things are just going to happen, even from a power standpoint. 282 00:12:28.840 --> 00:12:30.279 And then on top of that too, right, I mean, 283 00:12:30.399 --> 00:12:33.000 he he did change the way this offense functioned and 284 00:12:33.080 --> 00:12:35.120 that in the past we've always talked about the whole 285 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:37.559 feast or famine thing. Right, Either they hit home runs, 286 00:12:37.559 --> 00:12:39.480 so they don't score at all. Wol o' taani, you know, 287 00:12:39.600 --> 00:12:42.480 because of the he can the way he runs. He 288 00:12:42.639 --> 00:12:44.320 you know, he draws a walk all of a sudden. 289 00:12:44.399 --> 00:12:47.639 Now he's on second, you know, men in scoring position. 290 00:12:47.720 --> 00:12:48.840 Willkie bettep at the plate. 291 00:12:49.080 --> 00:12:51.759 I kind of like that, Dylan. 292 00:12:51.879 --> 00:12:55.360 Overall, and it's not over, and the Dodgers can win tonight, 293 00:12:55.600 --> 00:12:59.000 and I think they will. But just from your perspective 294 00:12:59.080 --> 00:13:02.120 of being in LA's many years as you have, h 295 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:03.879 is this really frustrating? 296 00:13:05.600 --> 00:13:08.120 Yeah, it's frustrating because it's the same thing over and 297 00:13:08.240 --> 00:13:11.759 over again, right, And I think, look, their backs are 298 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:13.960 against the wall. Obviously, you know, the odds are that 299 00:13:14.000 --> 00:13:15.679 the Padres win this series, but I can also see 300 00:13:15.759 --> 00:13:17.879 the Dodgers winning it. But here's the problem to me 301 00:13:18.000 --> 00:13:19.759 is that even if they advanced from this series, I 302 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:22.679 just don't think there's any chance that they're going to 303 00:13:22.720 --> 00:13:24.240 win a World Series because they don't have the starting 304 00:13:24.279 --> 00:13:26.559 pitching and it's been the kind of the same thing 305 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:29.320 over and over and over, right, and you know, probably 306 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:31.039 The last time they did have the starting pitching was 307 00:13:31.080 --> 00:13:33.200 in twenty twenty one, and then they decided to get 308 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:35.840 all cute and oh, let's use an opener in front 309 00:13:35.840 --> 00:13:38.039 of Julia Arius and have Max sus that close out 310 00:13:38.080 --> 00:13:40.679 this thing. And next thing, you know, right, Sureser's out 311 00:13:40.679 --> 00:13:43.519 for the NLCS. And to me, it always kind of 312 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.039 comes down to this same problem that I feel the 313 00:13:46.159 --> 00:13:49.639 organization has, where kind of their desire to kind of 314 00:13:49.639 --> 00:13:52.679 be unconventional and wanting to look smart in the end, 315 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:56.039 it leads them into a place where they just don't 316 00:13:56.080 --> 00:13:58.360 have the pitching to win, right, whatever the reason, you know. 317 00:13:58.519 --> 00:14:02.000 And and yeah, you know, especially the previous two years 318 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:03.360 leading up to this one, this is gonna be three 319 00:14:03.440 --> 00:14:06.080 years where basically their starting pitching gave them no chance 320 00:14:06.159 --> 00:14:08.679 to win, you know. And again, they might win a series, right, 321 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.039 it's a short series. Anything can happen. Shoot, I mean, 322 00:14:11.039 --> 00:14:13.360 they might even get to the World Series itself. I 323 00:14:13.519 --> 00:14:15.200 just don't think that they have the starting you know, 324 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:18.159 it's tough when you're asking the bullfen to cover five 325 00:14:18.360 --> 00:14:21.360 innings like every single night, you know, and then right, 326 00:14:21.399 --> 00:14:23.480 and then what's even more frustrating after all this, I 327 00:14:23.519 --> 00:14:25.360 think is you know, just kind of looking at it 328 00:14:25.399 --> 00:14:28.279 from the outside, is everybody's gonna play Roberts right, because 329 00:14:28.320 --> 00:14:30.320 at some point he's gonna have to make my ten 330 00:14:30.399 --> 00:14:32.960 pitching changes. One of them goes wrong and then they're like, 331 00:14:33.000 --> 00:14:34.679 why did he bring in that guy? Well, it's because 332 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.480 the starter wasn't there, right, the starter didn't take down 333 00:14:37.519 --> 00:14:40.240 the innings, and so you know, we already know how 334 00:14:40.279 --> 00:14:40.919 this is going to play. 335 00:14:41.080 --> 00:14:44.360 We've seen this before, yeah, and how but how do 336 00:14:44.480 --> 00:14:47.320 you put a finger on it when you start the 337 00:14:47.399 --> 00:14:49.879 season and you like, okay, we got the great staff. 338 00:14:50.480 --> 00:14:52.440 You know, you do everything right. You think you do 339 00:14:52.519 --> 00:14:55.759 everything right in the off season, and then and then 340 00:14:55.879 --> 00:14:59.080 and again. That's sports because injuries play a role and 341 00:14:59.120 --> 00:15:02.679 they're going to happen. But if they are going to 342 00:15:02.759 --> 00:15:04.879 play a role like that, there's no crystal ball that 343 00:15:05.000 --> 00:15:06.840 you can say, oh god, we're not gonna have this guy. 344 00:15:06.879 --> 00:15:08.360 We're not gonna have that guy. We're not gonna have 345 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:11.600 the starting pitcher. You know, Bobby Miller is going to 346 00:15:11.639 --> 00:15:13.559 go into tank and Walker Bueler's not going to come 347 00:15:13.639 --> 00:15:16.240 back fresh and sharp like he was. I mean, all 348 00:15:16.360 --> 00:15:20.360 those things factor in that you can't predict along the way, Dylan, 349 00:15:20.440 --> 00:15:22.480 So how you know, what what do you do? 350 00:15:22.639 --> 00:15:25.960 What do you do for the for that situation? 351 00:15:26.919 --> 00:15:28.720 Yeah, I think, you know, and again I think probably 352 00:15:28.720 --> 00:15:30.559 the Podjets are a good example of this, right They 353 00:15:31.720 --> 00:15:34.080 they took gambles, right, and granted this is probably like 354 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:36.360 the third team that Preler has built, you know, the 355 00:15:36.399 --> 00:15:38.480 first couple here, they went all in. They went all in. 356 00:15:39.120 --> 00:15:40.919 It didn't work out. They had to kind of rebuild 357 00:15:40.919 --> 00:15:43.080 from scratch. Again, I just kind of feel that with 358 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:45.799 the Dodgers, right, they try to spread out the risk, 359 00:15:46.320 --> 00:15:48.159 and the problem is that I think that like kind 360 00:15:48.200 --> 00:15:50.639 of coming into this season, like, look, I think Tyler 361 00:15:50.720 --> 00:15:52.799 Glastow was a question mark from the day that he signed. 362 00:15:52.840 --> 00:15:54.440 I mean, the guy had never pitched more than one 363 00:15:54.480 --> 00:15:56.639 hundred and twenty innings in an entire season, right, Like 364 00:15:57.159 --> 00:15:59.320 this was probably gonna happen. It was just that their 365 00:15:59.360 --> 00:16:02.200 calculus was like, well, you know, well we also have 366 00:16:02.320 --> 00:16:04.960 Walker Buehler, we have Yamamoto, we have Kershaw. 367 00:16:05.080 --> 00:16:05.240 You know. 368 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:07.879 Now, the problem is that each one of those things 369 00:16:08.000 --> 00:16:09.600 was also kind of like a long shot. 370 00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:09.759 Right. 371 00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:12.759 They thought that if they bought you know, twenty lottery 372 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.320 tickets that you know, three or four of them would 373 00:16:15.360 --> 00:16:17.240 kind of cash, you know, and in some ways they're 374 00:16:17.360 --> 00:16:19.279 likely like Bueler's even kind of standing at. 375 00:16:19.200 --> 00:16:19.799 This point, right. 376 00:16:19.840 --> 00:16:21.480 I Mean again, you look at the number of guys 377 00:16:21.720 --> 00:16:23.919 that have come back from a second Tommy John surgery, 378 00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:27.000 you know, to kind of regain their previous levels of effectiveness, 379 00:16:27.039 --> 00:16:29.240 you know, as a starting pitcher. It's a really short 380 00:16:29.279 --> 00:16:31.120 list of guys, right, I mean, I can think of 381 00:16:31.200 --> 00:16:34.279 like maybe like two right now. And so that was 382 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:36.480 kind of like a long shot of pat happening, you know, 383 00:16:36.559 --> 00:16:39.200 And I just think at some point right now, what 384 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.279 they're trying to do is spread the risk as much 385 00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.639 as possible, but at some point you kind of need 386 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:45.639 to just kind of go all in on something, you know. 387 00:16:45.679 --> 00:16:47.960 And now, granted, you know, ol Tani did give them 388 00:16:48.279 --> 00:16:50.840 the license to do that this year basically by kind 389 00:16:50.879 --> 00:16:53.679 of deferring right most of the seven hundred million, and 390 00:16:53.840 --> 00:16:55.360 so they kind of did kind of go all in, 391 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.120 like on Yamamoto. You know, it was just unfortunate that 392 00:16:58.200 --> 00:17:00.759 it happened this winter, right that they felt, okay, you 393 00:17:00.799 --> 00:17:02.559 know what, we you know, we can be a little 394 00:17:02.919 --> 00:17:05.880 looser with our money this year. But this is kind 395 00:17:05.880 --> 00:17:08.160 of something that's been going on for years right where 396 00:17:08.519 --> 00:17:10.519 you know, Garrett Cole was on the market. They didn't 397 00:17:10.519 --> 00:17:12.480 go right, they didn't. They only went up to like 398 00:17:12.480 --> 00:17:14.519 a certain point with him. I mean, you know, they 399 00:17:14.559 --> 00:17:16.799 could have had Blake Snell this past year, you know, 400 00:17:16.839 --> 00:17:18.359 and it was just well, we don't want to deal 401 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:21.240