1 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: Hello, Welcome to this week in the Atlantic Coast Conference, 2 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,879 the podcast for All Sportsdiscussion dot com. This is Jeff 3 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,480 and you can follow me on Twitter X however they're 4 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,000 calling it these days at Talking a c C Sports. 5 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:35,280 That's at t A l k I N A c 6 00:00:35,359 --> 00:00:39,600 C Sports. Your podcast moderator is Matthew and you can 7 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,240 follow him on X at All Sports d A c C. 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,079 That's at A L L S P O R T 9 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,799 S d A c C. I'm gonna turn it over 10 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:54,079 to you, Matthew now and we all look ready to speak. 11 00:00:54,399 --> 00:00:57,679 Speaker 2: Welcome to the longest running independent acc podcast in the 12 00:00:57,759 --> 00:01:00,479 United States. We have a terrific return get us tonight 13 00:01:00,479 --> 00:01:03,439 and Tim Thomas. You could follow Tim on Twitter at 14 00:01:03,560 --> 00:01:08,159 at Tim Thomas t l P. Again, that's at t 15 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:13,280 I M T h O M A S t l P. 16 00:01:13,599 --> 00:01:17,000 And he is the owner and operator of tech Lunchpale 17 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:20,000 dot com. You can follow their site at at tech 18 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,319 lunch PLD. That's at t E c h l U 19 00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:29,599 N C H P A I l D. Welcome back, Tim, 20 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:33,359 tell us about yourself. We always have new listeners on 21 00:01:33,439 --> 00:01:36,760 the show. The Flores yours. Thank you for spending your 22 00:01:36,799 --> 00:01:39,760 Sunday evening with us, Tim. 23 00:01:39,519 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 3: Matt, Jeff. Appreciate you guys having me on. Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, 24 00:01:43,079 --> 00:01:45,959 I think we first time I hopped on here was 25 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,599 back in February of twenty fifteen. That's literally almost a 26 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,760 decade ago. That's that is crazy to think about, and 27 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:56,319 I'm grateful to be back on as. As you mentioned, Matt, 28 00:01:56,359 --> 00:01:58,879 I'm the editor of the owner owner of Tech Lunch Fail. 29 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,760 We're about here, ten years of business, ten years of 30 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,959 covering the Hokies. I started when I was an undergrad 31 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:09,120 at Virginia Tech. I have a civil engineering degree from 32 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:12,840 Virginia Tech. Like I've been covering tech with this sitea 33 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,199 as my on the side, hoping to build into a 34 00:02:15,199 --> 00:02:19,120 full time endeavor for just about a decade or almost yeah, 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,919 about a decade now. So I've gotten to travel all 36 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,199 over We started our subscribers, our insider subscription last year 37 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,719 seven dollars a month, seventy dollars a year, and that's 38 00:02:29,759 --> 00:02:33,879 allowed us to keep growing this site further, retain talent 39 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,280 in some cases, allow me to be able to travel 40 00:02:37,319 --> 00:02:39,360 and cover this team all across the country. I mean 41 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,919 I've been in Miami, I've been in Stanford, I've been 42 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:45,639 in Nashville. I've been in Norfolk already this year covering 43 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,400 this team. I'll be up in Syracuse here in a 44 00:02:47,400 --> 00:02:51,520 couple of weeks. So yeah, Tech Launchpeiler dot com is 45 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,199 the place to be. It's you know, I'm grateful for 46 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,599 all the great writers we've had over the years. He's 47 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,039 got another currently got another group of great student riders 48 00:03:01,039 --> 00:03:04,520 with Tucker Terry, with Miles Jordan, and of course Ryan 49 00:03:04,599 --> 00:03:06,560 Duvallos filled in for a couple of games for me 50 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:08,840 this year on the football front, when I've been unavailable 51 00:03:09,319 --> 00:03:11,439 for various things. It plays on the ministry involvement. I 52 00:03:11,479 --> 00:03:14,840 have volunteer on the side as well, and also a wedding. 53 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,400 I had his fault, funny enough, missed the first two 54 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:19,520 home games of the year for Tech, even though I 55 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:21,719 was able to cover games down Stanford in Miami. So 56 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,520 but we're fortunate, unfortunate at Tech Launch Bail. I'm fortunate 57 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,439 for the sport of Tech, fans of ACC, fans of 58 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:32,439 what we do. We're one of the premier in publication. 59 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:36,879 We're one of the few. At this point, only three 60 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:43,560 publications that aren't student media have covered every single Virginia 61 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:46,879 Tech football game on site this year, and we're one 62 00:03:46,879 --> 00:03:48,719 of those three. The others made the run out of 63 00:03:48,719 --> 00:03:51,560 times in tech Sideline. We're one of the only three 64 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:54,280 publications covering one of the biggest brands of the a SEC, 65 00:03:54,439 --> 00:03:56,879 which I think says a lot about some other issues 66 00:03:56,919 --> 00:04:00,520 in the business and some people making some dumbest decisions. 67 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:04,960 But regardless, that's the type of commitment we have and 68 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,879 we can't do it without the support of our insiders 69 00:04:06,919 --> 00:04:09,360 and subscribers we think. I think it's the best way 70 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,960 to stay up with the Hokies is the coverage we 71 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:12,879 bring from what I get to see on site, for 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,120 what our team gets to see on site, talking to 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,199 the coaches, talking the players, watching the games, being there 74 00:04:18,199 --> 00:04:20,720 in person, breaking down the numbers, breaking down the stats, 75 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:23,759 covering all the recruiting and the transfer portal as that 76 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:27,000 is about there, really kicking the gear here. Tech lunchre 77 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:28,759 dot com is a place to be and being a 78 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,120 TLP insider gets you the best access and the best 79 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,759 coverage of it. Seven dollars a month, seventy dollars a year. 80 00:04:33,759 --> 00:04:36,279 Tech lunch dot com guys, it's great to be on them. 81 00:04:36,319 --> 00:04:38,800 I can't wait to talk to Act football, especially because 82 00:04:38,839 --> 00:04:40,759 I think I was at one of the best performances 83 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:41,519 of the week. 84 00:04:42,120 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 2: Definitely, definitely, And just one follow up. You're still on 85 00:04:44,959 --> 00:04:47,600 the on the radio airwaves, right. 86 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm I'm on a with a big dog 87 00:04:52,959 --> 00:04:56,240 sports talk out of station with Allen the NRV and 88 00:04:56,439 --> 00:05:00,279 in Rathburg with Rick Watson every every Monday morning seven 89 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:03,120 thirty sharps. So on your commute to working check that out. 90 00:05:03,399 --> 00:05:06,040 I periodically pop on ESPN Richmond as well, So a 91 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,759 couple of different places you can check me out. And 92 00:05:08,079 --> 00:05:10,319 of course you can follow me on Twitter x whatever 93 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,279 you want to call it, Tim Thomas DLP. You can 94 00:05:12,319 --> 00:05:14,800 follow tech Lunch Fail on Twitter at tech Lunch Failer 95 00:05:14,879 --> 00:05:19,120 letter D. We're also on threads, Facebook, Instagram, all these 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:19,920 different places. 97 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 2: Outstanding, Jeff, You're a friend. 98 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: All right, thanks Matthew, Tim uh Which ACC football team 99 00:05:33,639 --> 00:05:37,279 was the most disappointing in Week eight and which ACC 100 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:40,040 team do you think was the most impressive this past week? 101 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:44,519 Speaker 3: Well, let's start with the disappointments. Let's get that out 102 00:05:44,519 --> 00:05:48,680 of the way first and foremost. Florida State stinks like 103 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,560 I haven't watched them in weeks. They're bad, Like I 104 00:05:54,639 --> 00:05:57,160 can't believe it. Like I said, I know, I know 105 00:05:57,199 --> 00:06:01,199 they've been bad, but I mean it's just it's just horrendous. 106 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:06,959 The quarterback plays a disaster. The team party is a mess, 107 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,279 just the team like they have talent, but they're not 108 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,759 a team. And norbel knows it. I think you could 109 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:16,759 see the pain on Mike Marvell's face like he knows, 110 00:06:16,759 --> 00:06:19,399 like he's got an issue that can't be fixed until 111 00:06:19,439 --> 00:06:22,519 he gets through this season. That's how bad it is. 112 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,079 It's the risk of the portal era where you have 113 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:29,240 so much turn if you get the wrong mix in 114 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,639 the locker room, it just falls apart. And also if 115 00:06:31,639 --> 00:06:34,160 you have a quarterback mass like they have, that's far 116 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,199 The quarterback situation is far from the issue the only 117 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:40,160 issue Florida State has. But by Galley, it's a big one. 118 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,600 There's no doubt about it. I mean, dju wasn't it 119 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,720 Brock Glenn isn't it? Chrome Hook is so young he 120 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,079 needs time to develop. I mean, they gotta go portal quarterback. 121 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:53,199 And last thing Floridas they probably wasn't here is we 122 00:06:53,199 --> 00:06:55,079 gotta go heavy on the portal. They probably gonna go 123 00:06:55,199 --> 00:06:57,319 back heavy on the portal while they're trying to fix 124 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,399 how they build up their talent pool on the recruiting 125 00:07:00,439 --> 00:07:02,399 side and maybe in the long term go more heavy 126 00:07:02,439 --> 00:07:05,519 on the high school recruiting. But this Florida State team 127 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:10,000 is bad. I got no other way, but they're just bad. 128 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:13,399 I think that's one of the most disappointing teams this week. 129 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:20,560 Cow like another blownly another fourth quarter collapse for CAP. 130 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:24,399 I mean, it's just but they've been a fun story 131 00:07:24,519 --> 00:07:27,879 all of their social media all that, but they've lost 132 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,199 four games by nine points, which you can say, all right, 133 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,519 they're good, they're so close, which is true, but you 134 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,560 got to know how the close football games, or if 135 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,160 you're up big like you were against Miami and against 136 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:43,560 an NC State team. That's been a major disappointment this year. 137 00:07:44,079 --> 00:07:45,639 Though maybe it shouldn't have been as big of a 138 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,920 disappointment given how much they lost on defense. I think 139 00:07:48,959 --> 00:07:51,879 in hindsight, Weed I think overlooked the fact today. I 140 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:54,920 think NC State had more rebuilding. We just kind of 141 00:07:54,959 --> 00:07:56,879 wrote it off because of how good of a program 142 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,519 Dorin runs, how good of a defensive coordinator Tony Gibson is. 143 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,240 They also also Grace McCall without Jamie Chappell, does not 144 00:08:03,279 --> 00:08:06,600 seem like a good combination, or at least McAll does 145 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:08,319 not seem like good player. Now I got C. J. Bailey, 146 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,759 he's figuring things out. But I mean another another collapse 147 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,199 for col in the fourth quarter for will Cox. I mean, 148 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:19,800 this is a missed opportunity for Callen. It's if they're 149 00:08:19,839 --> 00:08:21,639 not careful, the season is gonna get away from them. 150 00:08:21,639 --> 00:08:25,199 They're gonna miss out the whole game. Now, I will 151 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:27,680 say they could be a team that you know, you 152 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:29,399 look at that last week when they go to SNU 153 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,120 watch out, you never know and they I mean this there. 154 00:08:33,240 --> 00:08:36,600 I think they can absolutely still get fine enough it's 155 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,279 a must win. It feels like against Oregon State, though 156 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,840 Syracuse coming across the country is interesting. They should win 157 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:48,080 at Wake. It should be Stanford comfortably. But it's gonna 158 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,679 be interesting to see. But Cal this week is a disappointment. Jeff, 159 00:08:51,799 --> 00:08:53,240 You're gonna have to give a little more insight on 160 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,320 Georgia Tech and a special teams fass, because I've seen 161 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:57,919 some special team issues with Tech this year. It seems 162 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,120 like the past couple of games has been refreshing. Not 163 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,639 to see it really as much, but that that game 164 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,120 next week between Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech hot Frank 165 00:09:07,159 --> 00:09:10,480 Beamer may need to find may need to just go 166 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:12,600 to the lake just so he doesn't have to see 167 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,080 the special teams mess based on your tweets at least 168 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,399 during that game, the special teams mess that may be 169 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,960 incoming to Lane Stadium next week. But a little disappointing 170 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:24,200 for Georgia Tech though you got you don't have Haynes 171 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,759 king in there. You know the games we play in 172 00:09:26,799 --> 00:09:29,639 Mercedes FNS. Okay, I don't think I think I'd be 173 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:32,000 harsh if I threw him in there, but I think 174 00:09:32,039 --> 00:09:33,240 this has got to be out full of the state 175 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:35,399 there just awful. Like I don't think I don't feel 176 00:09:35,399 --> 00:09:38,720 good about Duke coming out of that game either, And 177 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,360 I think this has got to be about cal And 178 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:41,720 then you look at the other side. I think you 179 00:09:41,799 --> 00:09:44,320 mentioned as well, who are the best? How about let's 180 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,039 start with Virginia Tech. The game I saw the game 181 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,399 I was inside Lane Steam Thursday night. Third quarter was 182 00:09:49,399 --> 00:09:52,720 horrendous like that that was That's an issue they've had 183 00:09:52,759 --> 00:09:55,720 all year. I think against Vanderbilt they had in the 184 00:09:55,759 --> 00:09:57,720 first half where they were shell shocked by an interception. 185 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,320 They spiraled Odie against Old Pamingian adversity hits. In the 186 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:07,120 immediate aftermath, they struggle Boston College adversity hits and they 187 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,320 need a quarterback break to reset. The other two games 188 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,080 that need halftime to reset. Credit for resetting at that point, 189 00:10:12,759 --> 00:10:15,639 but it takes them too long. If they do that again, 190 00:10:15,919 --> 00:10:19,279 say against Clemson, it will cost them the game. Fortunately 191 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,639 up twenty to nothing halftime, you know you can get 192 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:25,759 away with that. But overall, great performance, facial tune and phenomenal. 193 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:28,960 I mean, that's maybe the greatest rushing performance in Virginia 194 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,240 Tech history. Darren Evans, Ryan Williams. And they never had 195 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:37,600 some great backs, Kevin Jones, Cyrus Lawrens, all these guys 196 00:10:37,639 --> 00:10:39,919 like there have been so many great backs over the 197 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:44,799 years at Virginiat tach Kevin Leeds, Suggs, David Wilson, and 198 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,559 facial Tutan's gone to another level obviously, two hundred and 199 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,879 sixty six yards and he's making a case that hey, 200 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:56,120 I'm as talent as those guys work. Tremendous talent, tremendous 201 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,320 player Miami I think deserves credit. Louis was a good 202 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,480 football team. They're good foreign three football team. There's some 203 00:11:03,519 --> 00:11:06,720 good this mid tier with Tech in Louisville. These four 204 00:11:06,919 --> 00:11:09,480 are two four and three teams that are probably a 205 00:11:09,519 --> 00:11:11,759 lot better than people nationally think of a four and 206 00:11:11,799 --> 00:11:14,960 three ACC football team. They're good football teams. Miami, that 207 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:18,120 was a gutty win on the road at Louisville. It 208 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:20,840 may have been a little the scoreboard doesn't reflect the 209 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,080 gap that maybe should be in the reality of this. 210 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,720 How about UVA. Look, I know that in the end 211 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Clubson took care of business, but you gotta I have 212 00:11:30,279 --> 00:11:32,519 to give Tony Elliott credit. This was a program that 213 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:34,440 it just it just looked like it just wasn't working 214 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,320 with Elliott. They're four and three, but this is a 215 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,279 team that's clearly made strives. They may not get to 216 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,000 a bowl game. The schedule the rest of the way 217 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,840 is brutal for the Cavaliers, but they continue to put 218 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,120 some dignity and respect on their name. They beat a 219 00:11:48,159 --> 00:11:50,320 couple of good a couple of ACC teams this year. 220 00:11:52,279 --> 00:11:53,840 I have to give them credit. And then s n 221 00:11:53,919 --> 00:11:59,120 U Kevin Jennings. I was confused why they were going 222 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:05,720 away from Preston so and not and like not backing him. Sorry. Lastly, 223 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,840 you knew what you were doing going with Jennings. They 224 00:12:09,879 --> 00:12:13,600 figured it out, and that schedule sets up really really 225 00:12:13,879 --> 00:12:16,399 well for SMU. It was always a pretty weak schedule, 226 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:20,159 like they should be favored the rest of the way. 227 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,960 Every game it's there for the taking for SMU to 228 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,519 be in Charlotte or at least be in a situation 229 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:28,799 we're gonna have a messy tie breaker. I will say this, 230 00:12:28,799 --> 00:12:31,120 who would have thought Pitt at SMU would be one 231 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,759 of the biggest ACC games of the year preseason that's 232 00:12:33,799 --> 00:12:36,480 looming in a couple of weeks. That's a huge game 233 00:12:36,519 --> 00:12:40,559 on the AEC calendar that could be decisive and who 234 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,799 gets to Charlotte. And there may be a lot of 235 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,759 teams that are nervous about that game, not just SMU 236 00:12:45,840 --> 00:12:48,480 and Pitt. Virginia Tech with one loss already trying to 237 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,679 get back into the picture. I think it's a big one. 238 00:12:50,759 --> 00:12:53,240 Syracuse like some of these teams that need SMU to 239 00:12:53,399 --> 00:12:57,399 slip up and collapse and find their way out of 240 00:12:57,399 --> 00:13:00,840 the picture. So but SMU cantinues to take care of 241 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:02,799 their business. I have to give them credit, Like they 242 00:13:03,519 --> 00:13:05,440 after a big win at Louisville, they got to go 243 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,960 all the way across the Stanford and they Stanford bad. 244 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,759 Like Stanford may be the worst team in the ACC, 245 00:13:12,799 --> 00:13:15,320 but they go out out west, take care of their 246 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:17,960 business and get out of you. Gotta give them credit 247 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:18,159 for that. 248 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 1: All right, awesome rundown there, Tim, And and I know 249 00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:29,240 you'd mentioned Georgia Tech there. Yeah, special teams and I mean, 250 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,799 i'll just make it brief. It's it's it's basically Jeff 251 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:38,240 Collins esque. Uh at this point. Now the special teams, 252 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,320 which is kind of stunning, but it's it's it's bordering 253 00:13:41,399 --> 00:13:45,480 on being that bad again. Uh. They it started out 254 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,960 with a with an inconsistency in the kicking game and 255 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:52,360 has gotten to a point where they can't even execute 256 00:13:52,399 --> 00:13:56,120 the most fundamental of plays in the kicking game. 257 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:56,919 Speaker 3: Uh. 258 00:13:57,159 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: The snap too to hold her is just a complete 259 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,279 adventure at this point. They're giving up big returns in 260 00:14:04,399 --> 00:14:11,600 the punt return kick return. Notre Dame had two fakes 261 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:16,159 on special teams and both completely caught Georgia Tech off 262 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,159 guard and resulting in first downs for Notre Dames. So, 263 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:24,080 I mean, from my perspective, it wasn't so much disappointment 264 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:25,919 in the loss. That would have been a tall order 265 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,519 no matter what with with Pyn coming in. But they 266 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,440 played so poorly. I mean, they really played a poor game. 267 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:42,879 Special teams particularly was awful, but they really struggled on 268 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,960 the offensive line. I know, Notre Dame's outstanding, you know 269 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:51,440 their defensive front, but it was probably a good ten 270 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,320 to fourteen point different just on the special teams alone. 271 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:58,879 And in a game that was twenty four to seven 272 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,799 in the fourth quarter before the pick six, when the 273 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,360 game was out of reach, you know you're you're looking 274 00:15:05,399 --> 00:15:09,639 at primarily the difference in the game special team so well, 275 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:14,039 I mean, Brent Key has a lot to try to 276 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,480 correct on that side of the ball before going into 277 00:15:16,559 --> 00:15:22,120 Lane Stadium. So that kind of sets up for for 278 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,559 Week nine. What what ACC football games are you looking 279 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:27,240 forward to to most in Week nine? 280 00:15:28,799 --> 00:15:33,759 Speaker 3: Got well, Jeff, I will say this, the special teams 281 00:15:33,759 --> 00:15:35,679 is not something I'm looking forward to in that Virginia 282 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,799 Tech Georgia Tech matchup on both sides. The Virginia Tech 283 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:41,120 has started the it's been a couple of weeks in 284 00:15:41,159 --> 00:15:43,200 a row, of a couple of games in a row 285 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,279 of Hey, there's nothing terrible, there's no blatant awful special 286 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,919 teams in stake that we're looking like what the leap happened? 287 00:15:51,720 --> 00:15:54,440 But yeah, that may be that game. There's some risk 288 00:15:54,519 --> 00:15:59,960 of special teams think that just yeah or just paid 289 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,279 to watch. I will say that I think is one 290 00:16:02,279 --> 00:16:04,759 of the better games in the week. Uh you know 291 00:16:04,879 --> 00:16:08,240 Georgia Tech physical football team. Uh, we don't know obviously 292 00:16:08,279 --> 00:16:10,200 the status of Haynes king, but Zach Pyron, I mean 293 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,159 two years ago kind of that was kind of as 294 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,559 all right, this guy's got some talent. Moment when he 295 00:16:15,639 --> 00:16:18,320 led Jordia Tech in a comeback against a Virginia Tech 296 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:21,799 team that just was a nightmare. In year one under 297 00:16:21,799 --> 00:16:26,600 Brent Prye, Jamal Haynes, Virginia Tech's run defense hasn't been great, 298 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,879 and I think that's gonna be an interesting to see. 299 00:16:29,919 --> 00:16:32,320 They've they've had moments and I think they if you 300 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,480 take out the sacks, about four point three yards would 301 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,080 carry all out. I know Rogu show Ward were both 302 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,720 kept under four yards were carried by by Tech against 303 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:43,559 Boston College. But this is one of those things where 304 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,720 Jamal Haynes is a good running back and this is 305 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,480 I think that's that's an area I'm fascinating. The sea 306 00:16:48,519 --> 00:16:51,080 can Tech step up. And you know, this defensive line 307 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,440 I think is pretty good, but they gotta get they 308 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,200 they at times they can get pushed back a little bit. 309 00:16:56,879 --> 00:16:59,879 So I think that's a fascinating matchup. And also Virginia Tech, 310 00:17:00,159 --> 00:17:03,000 this is the stretch that can define redefine their season. 311 00:17:03,799 --> 00:17:08,640 Georgia Tech at Syracuse and Clemson. This team has ambitions 312 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:12,039 to try to make the ACC Championship. They gotta win out. 313 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,799 You pick up one more loss, you're done. Two losses 314 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:17,519 will be too many. There's a team that expectation nine 315 00:17:17,559 --> 00:17:21,240 plus wins. You gotta win out to do that. You 316 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:23,960 get the temptation is there to start looking ahead. Both 317 00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,880 the Syracuse that road trip next week that looks pretty 318 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:30,680 darn big. Is probably could be an AC championship elimination game, 319 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,799 depending on what happens in a different game now I'm 320 00:17:33,799 --> 00:17:35,960 gonna get to in a second. And then Clumbson of 321 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:39,440 course the Mega Showdown. That could be this massive, one 322 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,079 of the biggest a SEC games of the year, just 323 00:17:41,079 --> 00:17:43,960 because Virginia Tech. I think, when I think when the 324 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,640 Hokies are at their best, they're probably the third most 325 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:48,960 talented team in the league. They have the third highest 326 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:52,200 ceiling behind Miami and Clemson when they're at their best. 327 00:17:52,319 --> 00:17:54,519 With what we've seen this year over at I know 328 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:59,519 SU fans may disagree with naming Syracuse made Divans, Louisville 329 00:17:59,559 --> 00:18:02,559 fans and the cap of case as well, but we've 330 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,400 started to see this tech team rolling. This is a 331 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,119 good test. Can they keep it up against the Georgia 332 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,240 tech team that's going to be ready looking for that 333 00:18:10,319 --> 00:18:13,119 sex one to get to a bowl, hungary for it, 334 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,720 gonna be looking to kind of say, hey, you know 335 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,559 that Notre Dame game was one off, so that's I'm 336 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,039 very intrigued by that. Syracuse Pitts up Syracuse Pittsburgh on 337 00:18:22,079 --> 00:18:25,640 Thursday night. Who would have thought preseason that this would 338 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,880 be a big a c C game, but this is 339 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,559 a big ACC game. I mean, look, Pitt's kind of 340 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,480 done this in relative obscurity to Somerset some extent, like 341 00:18:36,559 --> 00:18:40,079 there's not been like a big win necessarily that you know, 342 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,200 was televised widely or you know, yeah, they beat West 343 00:18:44,279 --> 00:18:47,720 Virginia early, but you know, the spotlight wasn't really on 344 00:18:47,839 --> 00:18:50,240 them yet. The spotlight's been picking up. Now you get 345 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:55,160 a national televised game. Eli Holstein credit in r Doozy 346 00:18:55,839 --> 00:18:58,960 Kate Bell. I mean, maybe our Doozy and Kate Bell 347 00:18:59,079 --> 00:19:01,880 should uh Coast share a SEC Coach of the Year 348 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:06,200 at this rate. But you gotta give Nargoozi credit for evolving. 349 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:11,440 Desmond Reed is a dynamic playmaker in multiple ways. That's 350 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,720 gonna be a challenge for Syracuse. But on those side, 351 00:19:14,759 --> 00:19:19,160 Cal McCord once again. I mean, I wonder what Ohio 352 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,799 State fans are thinking right now because this was not 353 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,960 the McCord I think they had. I think he's made 354 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,559 some strides in his development as well. So this is 355 00:19:28,599 --> 00:19:33,359 a fascinating quarterback qortal matchup. Mccorda gets Holsteam probably the 356 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,799 two best gets from the portal in the ACC. Tyler 357 00:19:37,279 --> 00:19:41,240 or Shack. Louisville maybe has a case. But I think 358 00:19:41,519 --> 00:19:43,359 this is gonna be a fun game. I haven't got 359 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,400 a chance to watch a lot of Syracuse and Pitt 360 00:19:46,039 --> 00:19:48,599 uh this game. I've will probably turn on and enjoy. 361 00:19:49,559 --> 00:19:51,240 This should be a fun This is an old Big 362 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,680 East game, but this should be a fun one. And 363 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:56,079 obviously for Syracuse they want to get to Charlotte to 364 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,319 must win. For Pitt, you know what they got, they 365 00:19:59,319 --> 00:20:02,359 got a gauntlet ahead the schedule is about the tough 366 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:07,680 enough a lot starting with this game. SMU Looming, Clemson 367 00:20:07,799 --> 00:20:10,960 loving Louisville Looming. This is where they got to keep 368 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,200 it going. This is where they got to fire on 369 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,240 all cylinders. This is probably the game of the week, 370 00:20:15,799 --> 00:20:18,400 I would say in the ACC. The way these teams 371 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,400 are playing and what they've done, it's gonna be a 372 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,559 fun one on Thursday night. I'll tell you that right now. 373 00:20:23,599 --> 00:20:26,880 It is going to be a fun one. Duke get 374 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,279 or s MU at Duke. I'll be honest. I think 375 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,359 SMU may win this game by two or three touchdowns. 376 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,200 I know this is at Duke, but I'm just not 377 00:20:35,319 --> 00:20:40,200 buying Duke. I just don't think they've been that impressive. Uh. 378 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:41,920 They may get eight wins and be one of the 379 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,319 worst eight and four teams we've ever seen, just because 380 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:46,119 the schedule is not that hard. I gotta give any 381 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,000 ideas credit getting them, getting them to a bowl game 382 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:52,079 in year one, keeping up what Elko had already started. 383 00:20:52,599 --> 00:20:54,480 Got to give them credit, but their best wins over 384 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:58,559 North Carolina so far. But who knows. I mean maybe 385 00:20:58,599 --> 00:21:01,799 this this Duke team knows all right, you know, this 386 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,000 is an opportunity to say, hey, we're actually a pretty 387 00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:07,680 decent football team, and could Sam you get caught caught 388 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,240 sleeping a little bit? Because I don't think they're a 389 00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:11,799 perfect team. I think they're they're figuring things out. But 390 00:21:12,519 --> 00:21:16,519 you know, at Louisville, at Stanford at Duke, I mean 391 00:21:16,519 --> 00:21:19,039 this is a brutal stretch for them too. They're crisscross 392 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:22,119 the country. At some point does that catch up? And 393 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:23,799 could this be a game where maybe they get caught 394 00:21:23,799 --> 00:21:25,519 a little sleeping, especially because they have a big game 395 00:21:25,519 --> 00:21:29,039 against pitt next week, get caught a little sleepy here? 396 00:21:29,559 --> 00:21:31,680 Star Thomas and heck of a running looks like a 397 00:21:31,759 --> 00:21:35,519 very town and running back. That game could be dicey. 398 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,119 So yeah, I think that's where the conversation starts this 399 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:43,200 week in the ACC. You know, Louisville Boston College is 400 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,480 a little intrigued on Friday night, un c Ubas are 401 00:21:46,559 --> 00:21:49,160 old robbery. That's a big that's a game UVA has 402 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,839 to get if they want to get to a bowl game. 403 00:21:52,519 --> 00:21:54,599 While for mac Brown, if you and C loses that 404 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,079 as well, look I think it's over. I think UNC 405 00:21:57,279 --> 00:21:59,920 needs to move after this year. I think this is 406 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,480 for Mac Brown to retire. I think he's just lost 407 00:22:02,519 --> 00:22:07,559 his edge even further. But you know, lose this game 408 00:22:07,599 --> 00:22:10,640 of an old rivalry guy they got just puts the 409 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,799 some extra nails in the coffin at this point on. 410 00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:17,119 For mac Brown's ten year at North Carolina, it may 411 00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:19,559 be a force retirement, but it may be a retirement. 412 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,160 So yeah, guys, I think I think that covers it. 413 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,599 It's not like we're missing a big rivalry where we 414 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,200 have one team in it that has just been such 415 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,000 a joke this year and it's just been the biggest 416 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:33,480 is one of the biggest disasters we've ever seen in 417 00:22:33,559 --> 00:22:36,400 terms of the preseason hype, and now we all just 418 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,519 got it so wrong. And I don't think any of 419 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,400 us could. It's not like not like there could be 420 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,480 a Miami poll or State game that we're not talking 421 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:46,640 about that somehow is just say, who cares, Miami's probably 422 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,599 gonna beat him by twenty, but maybe Florida State keeps, 423 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:52,200 you know, find some effort to only lose by thirteen. 424 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:04,839 Speaker 1: Right, Very good, tim Uh let's go national now. Uh, well, 425 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,279 you know, staying within the ACC, which which ACC team 426 00:23:08,559 --> 00:23:11,119 and you kind of touched on a little bit already, 427 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,279 but uh, you know, which game team could be on 428 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,960 upset alert in Week nine if they're looking ahead to 429 00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:19,880 a game on their schedule or otherwise just sleepwalking on 430 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:20,839 the field. 431 00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, Well, I think it's it's it's two teams. Look, 432 00:23:24,599 --> 00:23:27,359 because the Syracuse pick game is I think, Look, I 433 00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:28,880 don't pay it's a Ford a half point favorite, but 434 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,920 I think that's a pretty pretty much feels like a 435 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:34,319 toss up. But I think it's SMU at Brirgika Tech 436 00:23:34,519 --> 00:23:37,079 like both of those teams. Like Georgia Tech, I think 437 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:38,960 is a tough, physical team. They could run the football 438 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,400 well with Jamal Hayes if they get out to an 439 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,720 early le Virginia Tach's been much better start against Fast 440 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,240 that's kind of helped them turn the season around after 441 00:23:47,319 --> 00:23:49,480 being terrible early. But if Georgia can get out there 442 00:23:49,519 --> 00:23:53,359 early at start to lead on Jamal Hayes more and more, uh, 443 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,319 that could get interesting. I think Virginia Tech needs to 444 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,640 take control early helps us at home, whereas SEBU is 445 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,799 going on road. Look, no one's ever gonna fear playing 446 00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:08,319 at Wallace Wade Stadium. Beautiful stadium, like gorgeous stadium. I 447 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,000 put up there as one of the most aesthetically pleasing 448 00:24:11,319 --> 00:24:15,720 stadiums in the ACC Classic Bowl all that, but it's 449 00:24:15,759 --> 00:24:19,079 not going to make it intimidate anyone at all. But 450 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,799 that could be a good That could be a good 451 00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:24,279 thing for Duke with a big showdout next Weekend's pitt 452 00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:27,680 with all the travel that SMU has had across the country, 453 00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,079 and Duke maybe have a little bit of a chip 454 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,880 on their shoulder of all right, we have something to 455 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,240 prove that, hey, we're not this six and one team 456 00:24:36,319 --> 00:24:41,400 that is just benefiting from a very weak schedule. Maybe 457 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,880 that game gets a little dicey and I don't and 458 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,960 like maybe SMU is not. If SEM comes down Cruises 459 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,839 in this game, I don't know if I would learn 460 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:54,920 that much, but it would have even more strongly thinking 461 00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,000 SMU might just go eleven and one and run the table. 462 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,160 They may take advantage and be legitimately a good football 463 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,960 team in how they get there, even if it's not 464 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,920 the strongest schedule. But I think that's where it is. 465 00:25:10,599 --> 00:25:13,240 I think that's where the upset orcs are. Maybe Oregon 466 00:25:13,319 --> 00:25:15,799 State against Cal, I mean colanis stopped the pleague. This 467 00:25:15,839 --> 00:25:17,359 is a game count needs to win. They're gonna get 468 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,400 their Bowl game and Oregon State's got plenty of chip, 469 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,440 plenty of a chip on their shoulder. I bet they'd 470 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,279 be like, Okay, look, we could have used Kalen staying 471 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,400 for to help us rebuild the Pac twelve even more, 472 00:25:27,759 --> 00:25:29,319 we wouldn't have had to do. We'd be good. We'd 473 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:33,200 be done now when like we could only added like 474 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,759 Boise and San Diego State and and Gonzaga and been 475 00:25:36,799 --> 00:25:43,440 done with it. But instead here they are. That could 476 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,440 be a game and Oregon stay stopping that. They've been 477 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:47,759 a pleasant surprise. I thought they might be bad just 478 00:25:47,839 --> 00:25:51,160 because they lost everybody basically to the to the four 479 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,000 wins coach, most of the roster or most of starters 480 00:25:54,039 --> 00:25:57,799 like all gone. Uh, they've been respectable. So I think 481 00:25:57,839 --> 00:26:00,279 that's gonna be interesting. And no, I don't see a 482 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:03,319 path to Florida State pulling the upset. I do think 483 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,039 Miami minus twenty one and a half. I know Florida 484 00:26:07,079 --> 00:26:10,759 State's bad, but I could see Florida State like make 485 00:26:11,799 --> 00:26:14,799 holding this out a two touchdown margin just because there's 486 00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,240 enough maybe enough pride there. They may not be. They 487 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,319 really may not be. Camp Boreen might just put up 488 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,279 fifty on them. And Florida State may have only seven 489 00:26:25,279 --> 00:26:27,000 points because they can't figure out because they have no 490 00:26:27,079 --> 00:26:31,680 quarterback and the team is just broken there. It is 491 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,839 probably a good thing, by the way, for Florida State's sake, 492 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,200 that this game is in Miami and not at FSU, 493 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,400 because if they got whooped by Miami at home, Oh my, 494 00:26:40,799 --> 00:26:42,279 that would that would be in That could be an 495 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,440 ugly see. But yeah, I think get circles around Virginia 496 00:26:45,559 --> 00:26:49,319 Tech and SMU. Maybe cow with Oregon State as well. 497 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,880 I think that could game be interesting, but SMU in 498 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:55,160 Virginia Tech. I think the two the big enough favorite 499 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,400 to be on upset work. By the way, movie though, 500 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,039 I think will take care of business of Boston College 501 00:26:59,079 --> 00:27:01,440 or they're about touchdown, or I think Willigo cruise up there. 502 00:27:01,599 --> 00:27:03,359 I don't think Boston College is that good at all. 503 00:27:06,519 --> 00:27:10,039 Speaker 1: All right, Tim, let's let's go national here and step 504 00:27:10,079 --> 00:27:13,880 out of the ACC for a bit. Which national FBS 505 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,039 game are you looking for you to the most in 506 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:20,319 this upcoming week? And we're wide open with this question. 507 00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,400 It can be Power five, power four, now non power four, 508 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,200 and you can have an FBS matchup and then give 509 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:29,400 us the winner of that game. 510 00:27:31,039 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 3: Well, I thank you. We got to talk about the 511 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,279 two big kind of group of five moments coming up here. 512 00:27:37,319 --> 00:27:39,960 It's Boise Stay at UNLV and Notre Dame at Navy. 513 00:27:41,079 --> 00:27:43,960 Think about this. If Navy wins this game against Notre 514 00:27:44,039 --> 00:27:48,000 Dame and Boise State beats UNLV, Boise State's already in 515 00:27:48,039 --> 00:27:53,000 the top twenty, Navy's undefeated in rings. Is it possible? 516 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,519 Is there a potential path any what happens to ac 517 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,759 in the Big twelve? Say Boise State wins out twelve 518 00:27:58,839 --> 00:28:02,000 and one copperence chap Navy twelve to zero conference champ, 519 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:07,559 that they are high enough in the rankings to where 520 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,319 say Virginia Tech, for example, or Syracuse Like I said, 521 00:28:12,319 --> 00:28:14,319 three lost Virginia Tech maybe a great example. It's there 522 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,480 like a two or three lost baby Kansas State or 523 00:28:16,519 --> 00:28:18,799 Iowa State, depending on how the thing's by the Big twelve. 524 00:28:19,519 --> 00:28:22,319 Say they are the big they see a Big twelve champs. 525 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,519 Could it be possible that there are two group of 526 00:28:25,559 --> 00:28:30,039 five champs given how high Boise States and if Navy 527 00:28:30,039 --> 00:28:31,680 can beat Notre Dame, and we're gonna have the same 528 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,880 scenario if Navy doesn't do it, if Armie does it 529 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:39,440 against Notre Dame. What happens. Could those two out rank 530 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640 and keep the auto bid from going depending on if 531 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:45,160 there is an upset, say on the ACC side, orders 532 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,839 on the Big twelve side and keep an autobid A 533 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:53,759 conference champion autobid away from from a Power four conference 534 00:28:53,759 --> 00:28:56,599 from an AEC or Big twelve champ. I think it's 535 00:28:56,640 --> 00:29:00,440 in play now. It could completely blow up here the 536 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:02,240 next couple of weeks with Navy and Army when they 537 00:29:02,319 --> 00:29:05,119 take on Notre Dame. Lose that game, It's it's gone 538 00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,640 at that point, and I think Navy is the more 539 00:29:08,839 --> 00:29:12,920 vulnerable one. They still got too lane South Florida could 540 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,039 be tricky if Byron Brown's healthy. Even if they get 541 00:29:16,039 --> 00:29:18,079 through Notre Dame this week, I don't think they will. 542 00:29:18,079 --> 00:29:22,039 I think Notre Dame will deliver, but the academies are 543 00:29:22,079 --> 00:29:24,279 good and that brings a wrinkle into it. This is 544 00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:26,440 a big moment for Boise State. I mean, this is 545 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,920 the Mountain West game of the year. We may get 546 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,079 it again. I'll bit in Boise because I think Boise 547 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,599 State will go to UNLB and get it done. But 548 00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,480 I will say Hodgemlik Williams has I think it looks 549 00:29:38,519 --> 00:29:41,400 like UNLV got the quarterback job wrong, going with Sluke 550 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,559 over Williams. Williams is at in the passing element with 551 00:29:44,839 --> 00:29:47,039 and been able to utilize the fact that U and 552 00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:50,160 LV has a stud wide receiver and Ricky White. But 553 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,640 Aston Jenny is playing on another planet right now. I mean, 554 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,440 he should be the Heisman. If he keeps us up 555 00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:59,680 or even close to this up. I don't think he 556 00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,000 like even he's not doesn't stay exactly but on the 557 00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,240 Barry Sanders pace but goes over two thousand yards rushing. 558 00:30:06,279 --> 00:30:08,279 I mean he should be the guy win the Eisman 559 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:11,319 this year. I think Genti's is too good. I think 560 00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:14,200 what Boise is doing is too good. I think I 561 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,200 think Boise will take care of business. And I think 562 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,759 they're well on their way, and who knows. I mean 563 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:21,240 they could also end up just getting the bye the 564 00:30:21,279 --> 00:30:23,640 fourth by over at ACC or Big twelve, if it's 565 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,759 say at Virginia Tech. If it's say maybe a two 566 00:30:25,839 --> 00:30:28,160 loss like Iowa State or Kansas stay at the Big twelve. 567 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,720 If you have something like that play out, or even 568 00:30:32,759 --> 00:30:35,799 like a pit someone who picks up a loss, it 569 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,039 just falls too far. It's just two par down like 570 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,000 S and us AS and US ten eleven to two 571 00:30:40,039 --> 00:30:44,720 ACC champion. Maybe they don't get the buye. So there's 572 00:30:44,759 --> 00:30:48,400 some things here. Those two games are really fascinating, I think, 573 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:50,880 especially and it's a good spotlight week for those two 574 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,680 games Boise and you and will be on a Friday night. 575 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,839 I wish it was not very at ten thirty on 576 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:58,440 CBS Sports Network because that's a big game just in 577 00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:01,799 general for the Mountain West, for both of the seven 578 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,880 un LB is also in that group of five bit 579 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,119 hunt win this game and they're gonna be on the 580 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,079 also in a great spot. And like I said, Navy 581 00:31:10,079 --> 00:31:13,759 and Army, you know those these are two big opportunities looming, 582 00:31:13,799 --> 00:31:16,400 starting with Navy this week. It is a bummer though, 583 00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:18,680 and I get it's never gonna be on campus at 584 00:31:18,759 --> 00:31:22,119 Navy Army when Notre Name plays them, But man, how 585 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,039 cool it would be with this if this year, like 586 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,359 they've played this game in Annapolis. Imagine if Army played 587 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,839 Notre Name at last point. Imagine the scene with that, 588 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:34,880 especially with how good they are this year. So I 589 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:38,599 think it starts with those two games. You can't deny 590 00:31:38,759 --> 00:31:41,319 LSU Texas A and M top of the SEC Battle, 591 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,039 big game for both in terms of playoff race as 592 00:31:45,079 --> 00:31:48,440 well and the SEC championship race. I think the road 593 00:31:48,519 --> 00:31:52,680 is open there for LSU. I'm starting to actually be 594 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,599 a believer. I I kind of thought they might be 595 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,680 a little bit fraudoy going to that Old Miss game, 596 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,279 especially with the lost US earlier, but they figured something 597 00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:04,240 and the way they struggled at South Carolina, but they 598 00:32:04,279 --> 00:32:07,440 figured some things out, took care of their business against 599 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,599 Ole Miss, beat them, found the way to win, took 600 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,400 care of the business last week, avoided a letdout against Arkansas. 601 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,680 Tough road game at A and M. But if LSU 602 00:32:16,799 --> 00:32:23,200 gets through this game, they go they got Alabama, but 603 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,720 Alabama is at home and it's not They're not the 604 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,400 same team, and they get a buy leading in and 605 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:31,240 then it's at Florida Vanderbilt at home Oklahoma and home 606 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,359 LSU beats A and M. I think you. I think 607 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:41,839 LSU is going to Atlanta. I really think they can 608 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,000 get to Atlanta. And on the other side text A 609 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,079 and M. I think man have got cut sleeping looking 610 00:32:46,079 --> 00:32:49,160 ahead to this game, big opportunity for an M. They 611 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 need a big win. The missoo wins a solid one. 612 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,000 Arkansas solid but they're not great wins. The MISSOO wins 613 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,799 doesn't look near as good. But A and M. Also, 614 00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,119 you win this game, you got out South Carolina, New 615 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:03,079 Mexico State at Auburn, and then you get Texas at 616 00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:05,640 home at the end of the year, which could be 617 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,480 a playing game for the SEC championship in that rivalry, 618 00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,160 which by the way, I cannot wait for that rivalry 619 00:33:12,119 --> 00:33:14,200 to back it is. That's like one of the few 620 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,119 good things re alignment in the past, this passway of 621 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,400 realignment has brought, is the restoration of that rivalry. It 622 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,960 is a huge game. Look, my mom went to A 623 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,160 and M for a couple of years, so I think 624 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720 I'm gonna lean the I gotta lead the Aggies a 625 00:33:26,759 --> 00:33:29,200 little bit here. But uh, if I had to pick 626 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:32,319 this game, and this game isn't Kyle Field, but this 627 00:33:32,359 --> 00:33:36,519 should be a great game. So yeah, I think that's 628 00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,440 where you gotta look. Also, Texas Vanderbilt, that's a fun one. 629 00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:43,839 Nashville should be rocking. It's probably be a ton of 630 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:47,839 Texas fans there because Nashville is a great destination place 631 00:33:48,319 --> 00:33:50,119 for a road fan base, kind of like how we're 632 00:33:50,119 --> 00:33:51,920 seeing tons of Big ten fans go to the Rose 633 00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,680 Bowl U C l A. Because once again Big ten 634 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:56,279 fans want to go to the Rose Bowl. It's warm, 635 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,559 Nashville is a fun city. SEC fans are gonna want 636 00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:02,279 to go there always, like always we saw with also 637 00:34:02,279 --> 00:34:05,000 with Virginia Tech Olers year. Texas gets the trip now, 638 00:34:06,119 --> 00:34:12,079 but Vanderbilt's been Diego Pavia. They've been fun. Could Vanderbilt 639 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,159 catch them a little bit at least early on. Maybe 640 00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:17,280 I think they'll take care of the business. Texas. I 641 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,920 think we'll getting done. But so there's some interesting games 642 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,639 out here, and I'll tell you this, b Yu's only 643 00:34:23,639 --> 00:34:26,440 a one a half four point favorite UCF. Watch out for 644 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,320 that game. BYU's been playing with fire. I think they're 645 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,719 on beaten street. Could end this week at UCF. So 646 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,320 it's an interesting week there. We've had these big mega 647 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,840 weekends the past two weekends with these huge showdowns. Not 648 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,360 the case this week. But there's some interesting games. So 649 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,039 maybe this ls UI and M is with the way 650 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,639 the seasons developed, at least in the SEC race and 651 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:51,440 then the boise U n LV and Navy Notre Dame. 652 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,960 The stakes of those games. No names Navy. We'll look 653 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,159 back on saying Okay, that that may take the American 654 00:34:57,199 --> 00:34:59,360 and put put the American champion behind a fall a 655 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:04,639 little bit compared to the Mount of West, but Notre Dame. 656 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,320 Navy Boys, State U and LV could be two of 657 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,440 the most impactful games this week, both Conference race Boys 658 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,679 State U and LV. One's gonna be in a great 659 00:35:13,679 --> 00:35:15,639 spot to get the conference champion. The other is actually 660 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:18,280 gonna need some They need a tad bit of help 661 00:35:18,639 --> 00:35:21,559 to get there and on the other side huge. Both 662 00:35:21,559 --> 00:35:24,880 of those games have potentially huge implications for the playoff 663 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,480 race this year for that for one of those auto bids. 664 00:35:27,519 --> 00:35:31,760 So it's gonna be a fascinating weekend and like I said, 665 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,880 a little more buzz about some games we wouldn't normally 666 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:36,880 have because of this playoff game. There this playoff, this 667 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,840 twelve teen playoff. I think that's I think that's that's 668 00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:44,079 fun to say, that's fun to get excited about. These 669 00:35:44,119 --> 00:35:46,440 games would be big anyway, but there's a little extra 670 00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:47,159 stakes in there. 671 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:54,639 Speaker 1: It will be fun, all right, Tim Matthew, I'm gonna 672 00:35:54,679 --> 00:35:56,920 turn it over to you for the last couple of 673 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,159 segments in the podcast. 674 00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Tim, We're kind of changing things up a 675 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,559 little bit this time when middle of the season, we 676 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,000 decided to go with two open microphone segments, so we 677 00:36:08,079 --> 00:36:11,159 kind of have were having fun with that. In this segment, 678 00:36:12,679 --> 00:36:16,639 we're only going with an open microphone for our guests. 679 00:36:16,679 --> 00:36:21,519 So guess what the floor is years Tam. 680 00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well thanks Matt. Look, let's we gotta we gotta 681 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,119 talk about the big news in the ACC this week. 682 00:36:27,159 --> 00:36:32,639 The biggest news, and that's Tony Bennett. Uh. I look, 683 00:36:32,679 --> 00:36:36,280 I was funny. I I just was just getting I 684 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,320 was weighing in traffic. It's just stopped in traffic right 685 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,239 outside lane's damn getting my parking. All of a sudden 686 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:44,880 I see a group message, a group chat, a bunch 687 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,960 of old buddy college plays. Mind blowing up. And I 688 00:36:47,039 --> 00:36:49,559 checked Twitter and all of a sudden, see this brief 689 00:36:49,599 --> 00:36:52,480 thing Tony Bennett retired. I'm like, hold on what? So 690 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:54,159 I get to my parking. I look at about going 691 00:36:54,159 --> 00:36:55,920 to ESPN Richmond. The first thing I say, It's like, 692 00:36:56,199 --> 00:37:00,599 is this been a thing? Real? This is stunny. Look. 693 00:37:00,639 --> 00:37:02,360 I think people thought Tony Bett may not be one 694 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,119 of those guys who goes to seventy, but this is stunning. 695 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,599 And look, I think there's you know, I get this 696 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,480 a fair criticism of people say why would you leave 697 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,119 your team weeks before the season, But also, if you're 698 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:17,679 a player or coach in that program, do you want 699 00:37:17,679 --> 00:37:21,320 a head coach who's phoning it in, who's just not 700 00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:24,239 able to give it at all at the helm that 701 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,159 that's just not gonna go well, Like, if he doesn't 702 00:37:27,199 --> 00:37:30,320 have it in the tank, then you don't want him. Look, 703 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,079 if let's be honest, look at Florida State. Those guys 704 00:37:33,079 --> 00:37:35,000 don't have it in the tank right now, and it's 705 00:37:35,039 --> 00:37:38,280 a disaster if they were. If normal would have known 706 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,920 that before the season, he would have probably put out 707 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,199 a whole different team or prepared differently. Like if you're 708 00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:48,599 Tony Bettt and this obviously they're obviously not the same situations, 709 00:37:48,599 --> 00:37:52,239 but like, if you're not all in in this sport, 710 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,800 you're gonna get wiped out in college sports. And I 711 00:37:56,119 --> 00:37:59,760 have to I think Bennett deserves some credit for reckons 712 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,119 that it's not it's not great for the players, but 713 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,199 I thought it was fascinating. Also listening to his press 714 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,719 conference and one of the quotes he said about being 715 00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,639 bullied on by his staff, And I've talked to some 716 00:38:11,639 --> 00:38:13,400 people who said it's part of it's the humility of 717 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,480 Tony Banner, which is I think very true. But I 718 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:20,360 think there's a truth because, you know, especially with the 719 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,519 amalgamation of things. He said of that saying, look, I 720 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,000 know I can do it the old way, but I 721 00:38:27,199 --> 00:38:30,719 think he realizes, hey, the way things are changing. I 722 00:38:30,920 --> 00:38:33,800 just I've tried, but I I know I can't get there. 723 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,039 I'm not the guy to get there. And I think 724 00:38:37,039 --> 00:38:38,960 he once, I think he thinks his staff can, and 725 00:38:39,039 --> 00:38:42,079 I think I wonder part of it the timing was 726 00:38:42,159 --> 00:38:43,920 kind of a thought in the back of his mind 727 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:47,559 to give honestly his his guys a chance because this 728 00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:51,639 happens in April. I'm not sure if Fron Sanchez gets 729 00:38:51,639 --> 00:38:54,320 that chance because his record at Charlie wasn't great. But 730 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,039 when you actually look at it, six wins year one, 731 00:38:57,119 --> 00:38:59,199 the twenty two wins and a CBI title and it's 732 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,280 fifth and final year, but before you decide to rejoin 733 00:39:01,320 --> 00:39:04,639 the UVA staff, that tells the real story of how 734 00:39:04,639 --> 00:39:08,519 he built up that program. So yeah, I mean, this 735 00:39:08,599 --> 00:39:11,280 is this is this is a sad day or this 736 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,719 this was a sad day for the sport of college 737 00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,920 basketball and It just shows how unhealthy this college sports 738 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,599 are underneath the hood like outside right now. Ly and 739 00:39:21,639 --> 00:39:24,920 this is even more true for college basketball, especially the 740 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,719 men's college basketball game is the most probably the most 741 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,840 unhealthy of all college sports right now. The outside the 742 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:33,880 car looks great, look at TV right, look at the 743 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:37,119 money all that, But if you open up that hood 744 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,960 you got, you could you immediately see the engines overheating. 745 00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,360 We're in the wild West. It's gonna we need to 746 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:47,320 figure this out. We need structure. I mean, I agree 747 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,559 with all the maybe the solutions that benettings, you know, 748 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:50,920 with a salary cap, I don't know how he can 749 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,880 apply that, but those this revenue sharing and how that 750 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,519 may work indirectly or at least, hey, you got to 751 00:39:57,519 --> 00:40:01,480 make some choice on allocation on these things. But we 752 00:40:01,519 --> 00:40:05,239 need structure. The sport needs structure, We need contracts, We 753 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,679 need revenue sharing in college sports. I don't think this 754 00:40:08,679 --> 00:40:11,519 would have necessarily changed Bennett long term in terms of 755 00:40:11,519 --> 00:40:13,400 sticking around if it was already in place today, maybe 756 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:17,440 help a little, because I think Bennett's off the Lobul said, 757 00:40:17,639 --> 00:40:20,119 he's an old schools but we're a slow build up guy, 758 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,480 and it's just hard to do that now in this era, 759 00:40:23,559 --> 00:40:28,480 it's just it's not nearly as easy to do. And also, 760 00:40:28,519 --> 00:40:30,760 you just look at all the things you're constantly recruiting, 761 00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:33,159 Like the NFL has an off season, the NBA has 762 00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:37,840 an off season, you're constantly recruiting in college sports, like 763 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,480 the dead periods aren't long, and you still might be 764 00:40:40,519 --> 00:40:42,719 messaging a recruiter if they mess at you, Like we 765 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,960 need to cut these things off, like we need longer 766 00:40:45,039 --> 00:40:49,920 quiet and dead periods. For example, in college sports, it's 767 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,239 absurd that the transferport on college basketball is still going 768 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,239 to open during the NCAA Tournament this year, Like why 769 00:40:59,559 --> 00:41:02,079 it's not like there's a rush like with football, it 770 00:41:02,159 --> 00:41:04,679 opens because because coaches want to get guys en roll 771 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:07,559 for the spring semester. Again for spring football, I get it, 772 00:41:07,559 --> 00:41:10,519 it's a tight window, but maybe even football, maybe spring 773 00:41:10,599 --> 00:41:14,159 football needs to die in this next way. Maybe it 774 00:41:14,199 --> 00:41:16,639 needs to become like May June full spring. Maybe we 775 00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:19,760 need to push those practices to them so that maybe 776 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,679 April now a bunch of off season workouts, and then 777 00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:27,039 maybe April becomes the window where that's the portal window, 778 00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:29,679 that's the off season portal window, so we don't have 779 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:34,199 the portal during bowl games, during the playoff during and 780 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:35,639 it fixes by the way, it takes it out of 781 00:41:35,679 --> 00:41:39,119 the high school recruiting chaos at the end. So maybe 782 00:41:39,159 --> 00:41:42,440 there's a lot of things we need to fix. And 783 00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,760 the fact that Tony Bennett, and like I said, he 784 00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:49,000 a retiring may have been coming anyway soon, but the 785 00:41:49,039 --> 00:41:52,239 fact that it feels like this is a little earlier 786 00:41:52,559 --> 00:41:56,559 than it may have been because of the mismanagement, because 787 00:41:56,599 --> 00:42:01,440 of the reactiveness of the NCAAA, the reactiveness and the 788 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:06,079 greed of Saki and Patiti and all these Accy victories 789 00:42:06,079 --> 00:42:09,280 whoever you want to say, you know your mac phillips 790 00:42:09,800 --> 00:42:13,199 previous all this, the greed and the reactiveness and the 791 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,199 laziness of so many people in charge for so long 792 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,239 rather being proactively building towards what was going to happen 793 00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:25,000 eventually anyway, And we've lost good people out of the business, 794 00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:28,320 like Tony Bennett. That is a shame. I Carl Williams, 795 00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:31,159 the quote was great though. She's one of these tons, 796 00:42:31,199 --> 00:42:34,440 of these athletic directors who deserves a little bit of 797 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,679 the blame as well, along with the university presidents. You 798 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:39,760 would deserve even more of it because They're the ones 799 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,320 who really run the NCAA. As much as we want 800 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,280 to blame Emmert previously and now Charlie Baker, they are 801 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,440 the ones who ultimately run it and can adjust it 802 00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:52,800 in terms of how it needs to adjust. It is 803 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,079 a shame for college sports that Tony Bennett is out 804 00:42:57,079 --> 00:42:58,880 of this is out of the business. I hope he 805 00:42:58,960 --> 00:43:03,960 stays involved. I hope, but it is a shame. Just 806 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,599 like Jay Wright, like I'm glad he's still involved CBS, 807 00:43:06,599 --> 00:43:08,159 like it is a shame. College basketball is a way 808 00:43:08,199 --> 00:43:11,880 less healthy college football. You have such these large support stats, 809 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:15,599 everything that helps a little bit the highest levels. But 810 00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:17,840 we need to get this figured out. We need to 811 00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,800 cut down some of these recruitings because if not, if 812 00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:25,000 this just becomes this offseason less seventy hour a week constantly, 813 00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:27,639 there's a lot of good people that we're gonna not 814 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,840 get into the sport, into these sports that could be 815 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,239 great for these young men and women across college sports, 816 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,320 and we're gonna kill a coach or too. Like this is, 817 00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,559 We're gonna see people leave early, and we may kill 818 00:43:42,559 --> 00:43:45,360 a coach or too, just because of the insane stress. 819 00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,159 We've swung the pen the pendulum was way too far 820 00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:49,920 one way, it swung way too far in the other. 821 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,360 This needs to be urgent. If it requires anti trust 822 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,480 from Congress to help, so be it. Get it done, 823 00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:01,559 find a find a find a way. We're losing people 824 00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,440 like Tony Bennett from this from sport, from our from 825 00:44:04,519 --> 00:44:08,320 this world of college sports because of a system that 826 00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:12,320 is so broken. Like enough is enough and it's it's 827 00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,679 sad to see it. I hope he stays around. He 828 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,199 seems have some interest in doing that. I hope he does, 829 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:20,119 especially in college basketball, which is the worst of it 830 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,159 right now. I hope. I hope they can fix it. 831 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,559 I hope. There's so many things that need to be fixed. 832 00:44:25,599 --> 00:44:28,880 There's so much greed and other things that are damaging this. 833 00:44:29,639 --> 00:44:32,320 And like I said, players should be involved in the revenue. 834 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,239 They should be good. Now. We need to We need 835 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,719 to find a balance for everything. We need to find 836 00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,960 systems and structure. We're in the wild West. I don't. 837 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,559 I think we're years away still, but we need to 838 00:44:43,639 --> 00:44:47,079 keep making steps that the court case that's closing is positive, 839 00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:49,159 but we need to make steps. We need to start 840 00:44:49,199 --> 00:44:52,320 making it faster too. Someone needs to start making it faster, 841 00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:55,119 and unfortunately because of the reactors, we're losing people like 842 00:44:55,159 --> 00:44:59,119 Tony Bennett from the business and retiring early at fifty five. 843 00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,880 He might I stayed them all much longer anyway, even 844 00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:06,280 if things were good. But then at Jay Wright others like, 845 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:07,920 it's a bummer to see it. 846 00:45:10,599 --> 00:45:14,760 Speaker 2: Very well said Okay, Tim, open microphone segment two. I'm 847 00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,039 going to ask you a question. Then you can have 848 00:45:18,079 --> 00:45:20,000 your open mic, but I want you to ask Mike. 849 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,719 I want you to answer my question here. So this 850 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:28,679 is a Homer question from my part. Run through Virginia 851 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,519 Tech schedule for me. On the football side, how do 852 00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:41,639 you see the season ending for the Hokies? Timy there? 853 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:54,480 Speaker 1: Tim looks like, Tim, you let me unmute your unmute you? Tim? 854 00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:57,280 Speaker 3: All right, there we go. I think my headphones just 855 00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,000 gave out for a second there. 856 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 2: Jim, Yeah, I can hear me now, we can hear you. 857 00:46:13,559 --> 00:46:17,039 We can hear you better now, Actually, go ahead, answer 858 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,880 run through the hockey schedule for us. What do you 859 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,880 got for me? How do you think the football team 860 00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,679 is gonna end up? 861 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to predict game by game, but I 862 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,159 think this, I think this is a team that can 863 00:46:29,159 --> 00:46:30,559 get to eight and four. I think they get the 864 00:46:30,639 --> 00:46:33,360 nine ther I think they can win out. I think 865 00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:35,679 they'll be Georgia Tech this week. I think they'll be 866 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,400 Duke in Virginia the end of the year at Syracuse. 867 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:42,039 It's a tricky game. Syracuse is legitimately a good team. 868 00:46:42,079 --> 00:46:45,039 Clemson is gonna be a tough challenge, but I think 869 00:46:45,039 --> 00:46:48,000 they can win that game. I think the way Virginia 870 00:46:48,039 --> 00:46:50,679 Tech is played the past few weeks, they are playing 871 00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:54,719 a much higher level. So I think it's eight and four. 872 00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,280 I just don't think there's enough consistency there could they 873 00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,639 I think it's the floor of seven and five at 874 00:46:59,639 --> 00:47:04,800 this the ceilings obviously, I think nine to three, which 875 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,119 could be enough to get the Charlotte if SMU slips up, 876 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:11,519 and then of course it becomes a tiebreaker mess at 877 00:47:11,519 --> 00:47:14,519 that point, which, oh my goodness, that's good. That's gonna 878 00:47:14,519 --> 00:47:16,639 be fun to calculate and that that's not gonna have 879 00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,360 people losing their minds. But yeah, so it's gonna be 880 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,199 interesting to see how it plays out. I will say this, 881 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:26,599 like I said I would lead eight and four, I 882 00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:29,519 would say that if they finished nine and three, obviously 883 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:34,960 they meant it's a successful season. Matt expectations. The trajectory 884 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,239 is great in Blacksburg. Eight and four. I think it'd 885 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,800 be a little disappointing with the talent they have, especially 886 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,679 after the bad start they had again a bad start 887 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,719 to the season, but I would still feel good about 888 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,159 the trajectory. That program is on seven and five or worse, 889 00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:53,639 and I got some concerns at this point. So yeah, 890 00:47:53,679 --> 00:47:56,519 it's gonna be interesting, Matthew, I think it's I think guys, 891 00:47:56,559 --> 00:47:58,360 it's gonna be I think eight and four if I 892 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,480 had to predict today, but I guess see nine three, 893 00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,119 I can see seven and five. I don't think I 894 00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:06,719 see worse than seven and five at this point for 895 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:11,239 Virginia Tech. I think they figured things out. But we'll 896 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:14,159 see this three game stretches the defining is going to 897 00:48:14,199 --> 00:48:16,519 define this season or this four game stretch really, but 898 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,639 obviously they've taken one step in the right darks with 899 00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,920 Boston College. These next three games before their second by 900 00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:27,800 are going to define what it is Virginia Tech's season 901 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:29,719 and was it a successful season or not. 902 00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:33,320 Speaker 2: Fair enough? What do you got for us, Tim, give 903 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,679 us your open Mike, you got another segment? 904 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:42,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like I said, I think it's let me 905 00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:45,400 just say this about the Texas Georgia thing last night. 906 00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:50,079 To take this national for a second, that was unacceptable 907 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:56,360 in every part of the world. Look, the call was terrible. 908 00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:01,159 The call was terrible, the initial call that was not 909 00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:06,599 a holding or defensive pass interference, but the precedent that 910 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:12,079 was set by just the terrible process. Was the right 911 00:49:12,159 --> 00:49:14,159 call made at the end of the day or the 912 00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:20,280 right non call. Yes, but we cannot just engineer or 913 00:49:20,440 --> 00:49:24,920 let a bunch of fans losing their minds way too 914 00:49:25,039 --> 00:49:28,960 much and throwing bottles on a field, which by the way, 915 00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,639 could endanger cheerleaders down at that end, photographers, other game 916 00:49:33,679 --> 00:49:38,320 people operating the game on the sideline endangers them. And 917 00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:42,360 then that's going like they were about to resume play 918 00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:46,119 if someone if they aren't throwing bottles, the game continues on. 919 00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:51,519 And yes, it's a big controversial call, but we then 920 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:53,679 completely blew up a process. There should have been a 921 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,000 delay of game penaling against Texas for the fan behavior, 922 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:02,760 and then that's the process. So we changed the call 923 00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,679 wouldn't have been changed basically because a bunch of bottles 924 00:50:09,679 --> 00:50:12,480 got thrown on the field and a dangerous situation developed 925 00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:16,639 in Austin last night. A two hundred fifty thousand dollars 926 00:50:16,639 --> 00:50:19,519 fine isn't enough from the SEC, and I don't know 927 00:50:19,519 --> 00:50:21,559 if they actually have the options to do it. But 928 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,880 in Europe, when you get bad fan behavior, you know 929 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,880 what they do. They kick the fans out for the 930 00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:35,199 next game, the next home game. Okay, there we go. 931 00:50:36,159 --> 00:50:38,239 You want you want to you want to punish fans, 932 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:40,440 and it's something maybe, honestly, we need to see across 933 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,760 American sports embrace. I know that would be controversial, but 934 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,880 if the fan behavior isn't if you want to fix 935 00:50:47,960 --> 00:50:50,480 fan behavior, sometimes you want to prevent they gotta do 936 00:50:50,519 --> 00:50:52,880 it because they get some way worse stuff, by the 937 00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:57,280 way than what we get here in the US. But like, 938 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:00,559 you can't have that, and once again it it's not 939 00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,079 the first time we've seen. Fortunately, this didn't have an 940 00:51:03,519 --> 00:51:05,960 out impact on the outcome in the game, and yes 941 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,159 it was the right call, but we've seen a few 942 00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:12,480 times now where it feels like the refs are not 943 00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:17,400 following the strict processes or letting other things. And look, 944 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,920 they're human, I get it, and maybe there's some we 945 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,239 got to figure out to keep good refs in because 946 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,159 some of this stuff will get will cost us some 947 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:27,599 officials and then stretch the other ones thin because we 948 00:51:27,679 --> 00:51:30,599 just don't have enough. And social media has been bad 949 00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,800 for that as well. It kind of gets ridiculous. But 950 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,960 we've had some officiating management issues that have been bad, 951 00:51:37,199 --> 00:51:39,760 and part of it maybe the League office is not 952 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:43,400 doing their job of setting these refs up. We had 953 00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,360 it with this game, like said, how we got to 954 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,039 the right call, but it was a terrible and acceptable 955 00:51:48,039 --> 00:51:52,480 process that should never happen Tech Miami and there's a 956 00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,360 lot of money there. Maybe some Miami fans listening are 957 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,400 about the roll of their eyes here for a second. 958 00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,119 But whether you think that was a catch or not, 959 00:52:00,199 --> 00:52:04,760 was never conclusive evidence to overturn it. And it felt 960 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,320 like that in overturning it, and the lack of a 961 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:14,559 clear explanation because it wasn't clear was Hey, we think 962 00:52:14,599 --> 00:52:17,480 we got it wrong with the initial call, so we're 963 00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,280 gonna try to We're just gonna flip it to that 964 00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:23,679 even if we don't meet the standard. And I mean, 965 00:52:23,679 --> 00:52:26,480 it's just one of those things where I that's another 966 00:52:26,519 --> 00:52:30,639 process that was I have no indication how they met 967 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,639 the standard of conclusiveness, not to bring up something from 968 00:52:34,639 --> 00:52:38,239 a month ago. But like I said, I think these 969 00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:39,920 leagues got to do a better job, and maybe we 970 00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,679 need to centralize this more. Maybe the SEC, Big ten, 971 00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,840 Big twelve acc collectively and they got all the money, 972 00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,320 so maybe support all the other leagues beneath it. And 973 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,840 by the way, use those as development grounds for your 974 00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,559 officials need to come together form a national officiating body, 975 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,039 both for that for college basketball, because you hear these 976 00:52:57,039 --> 00:52:59,840 stories about these officials going here and there and all across 977 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,280 the because the best ones coaches will call them up 978 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,320 and say, hey, we will collectively we want you to 979 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,000 come to our game, but we need we got to 980 00:53:07,039 --> 00:53:10,559 fix that. But you can't have the scene of what 981 00:53:10,679 --> 00:53:13,320 happened in Texas. And I will say this to close 982 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,239 out as well. I hope that SEC fine isn't just 983 00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:20,920 going to Georgia just Georgia doesn't need two in fifty thousand. 984 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:23,599 Give it the charity like be storming the field fins 985 00:53:24,039 --> 00:53:27,159 like Vanderbilt had to pay Alabama one hundred grand. I 986 00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:31,360 think Arkansas to pay Tennessee two and fifty grand. Like 987 00:53:31,519 --> 00:53:34,559 the finds go to the other athletic departments, like what 988 00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:38,280 are we doing here? Y'all are rich, y'all are really 989 00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:42,559 rich with that TV deal? What are we doing? What 990 00:53:42,599 --> 00:53:45,239 are we doing? Give it the charity? Do you really 991 00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:48,119 need all that money that bad to keep it in house? 992 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:53,920 That's just ridiculous. So yeah, just some ridiculous ridiculousness in 993 00:53:53,960 --> 00:54:00,119 the sec that was unacceptable though you cannot have It's 994 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,239 it's hard for me to see the case how that 995 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,159 didn't affect the game. And imagine if Texas wins off 996 00:54:05,199 --> 00:54:08,320 that it would have been the right call. But imagine 997 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:12,920 that type of thing. The what that the message that sends. 998 00:54:14,559 --> 00:54:17,880 I hope this week that maybe the sport collectively, maybe 999 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,719 the leagues need the collectively put out statement to say, hey, 1000 00:54:21,199 --> 00:54:24,360 this is not acceptable by any fan base because we 1001 00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,760 cannot have that, because right now there may be fans say, 1002 00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,719 are right? The cost of worth it? It's not my money. 1003 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:33,719 These schools are not defined, you know, so maybe you 1004 00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:36,840 you know, you get a controversial call lay in a game, 1005 00:54:37,880 --> 00:54:40,119 all right, maybe just throw a bottle on the on 1006 00:54:40,199 --> 00:54:45,039 the field influence the refs. That is a dangerous, dangerous 1007 00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:48,719 precedent that could get people hurt. If it's not more 1008 00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:52,719 than just a fine. If it's not stamped out immediately. 1009 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,679 And I know people say it's only one one time, 1010 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,760 but it's a classic thing. We give someone give something 1011 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,039 an inch, it'll take a mile. Give this an inch 1012 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,519 and don't make the punishment severe. It opens the door, 1013 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,079 especially in the high stakes, of what part of what 1014 00:55:11,079 --> 00:55:14,239 we love about college football is the immense passion of 1015 00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:16,360 fans who feel like they can impact the game, but 1016 00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:18,199 they may try to impact the game in ways that 1017 00:55:19,679 --> 00:55:20,559 should never happen. 1018 00:55:22,280 --> 00:55:30,679 Speaker 2: Well said Tim Jeff, you're up, buddy. 1019 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:32,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know how I can follow 1020 00:55:32,519 --> 00:55:36,320 those open mics from from Timmy. He just nailed it 1021 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,960 on both those topics. But uh, I'll just add on 1022 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,079 on Tony Tony Bennett, I mean from from a coaching 1023 00:55:44,679 --> 00:55:49,400 perspective and what he's meant to Virginia basketball and and 1024 00:55:49,519 --> 00:55:54,320 ACC in general. I mean this, you know that he 1025 00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,760 he came in at a time when when coach k 1026 00:55:56,920 --> 00:56:00,599 and Roy Williams, I mean it was He's going to 1027 00:56:00,639 --> 00:56:02,960 be right up there with with some of those guys, 1028 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,960 you know, like the Gary Williams who challenged Duke in 1029 00:56:06,039 --> 00:56:09,440 the in the early you know, late nineties and early 1030 00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,519 two thousands and guys in the in the eighties when 1031 00:56:13,599 --> 00:56:17,559 when Dean Smith and Coach K were still there dominating things, 1032 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,079 and you had like the left of Cells and the 1033 00:56:20,119 --> 00:56:24,599 Bobby Kremins who who you know, made their mark challenging them, 1034 00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,559 and and Tony Bennett is right there above the all 1035 00:56:28,599 --> 00:56:33,920 time greats, you know, going up against Roy Williams and 1036 00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:37,920 Coach K and winning a national title and making what 1037 00:56:38,039 --> 00:56:42,280 many felt like was the best acc program you know 1038 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,000 of the twenty tens. And he had his style and 1039 00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:49,639 he just hes stuck with it despite you know, the 1040 00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:54,400 cristicism from some circles, you know, and then following that 1041 00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,480 one sixteen loss, that historic loss, to come back and 1042 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,480 win a national title of the year after, I mean, 1043 00:57:02,039 --> 00:57:05,119 with the incredible amount of pressure that team was under 1044 00:57:05,679 --> 00:57:10,639 to do that. You know, he's a certain Hall of 1045 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,199 famer and it's it is disappointing. And Tim just hit 1046 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,599 was great, hitting on the points of what the state 1047 00:57:16,639 --> 00:57:21,119 of college athletics is. You know, we're getting to a 1048 00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:26,880 point where we're not looking to emulate and have coaches, 1049 00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,599 you know, like the Tony Bennett's or to coach K's 1050 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:35,320 or Dean Smith's, you know, the Nick Sabans these these 1051 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:39,159 kind of coaches, you know, are not who the next 1052 00:57:39,199 --> 00:57:43,599 generation is going to try to to hire and be like, 1053 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:46,440 I mean, we're going we're headed towards the future where 1054 00:57:46,639 --> 00:57:49,440 the coach that schools that want to compete are going 1055 00:57:49,519 --> 00:57:52,679 to be pattering themselves after you know, Kirby Smart, you know, 1056 00:57:53,199 --> 00:57:55,960 unbelievable coach. Don't get me wrong, Kirby Smart is an 1057 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:02,159 absolutely unbelievable coach. But nothing else matters at Georgia except 1058 00:58:02,199 --> 00:58:06,480 winning football games. You know, who cares about graduation rates, 1059 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,719 arrest whatever, doesn't matter. I mean, they have the perfect 1060 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,440 football machine at Georgia for this era of college athletics. 1061 00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:20,400 And if that's the future, you know, we're all gonna 1062 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:24,159 have to get get used to, you know, more programs 1063 00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:30,320 like Georgia, more coaches like Kirby Smart and and and 1064 00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:33,519 I think that's that's sad, you know that we're headed 1065 00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:37,239 in that direction. And it's not that we haven't had renegade. No, 1066 00:58:37,280 --> 00:58:39,760 I won't say renegade, but it isn't like you know, 1067 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:45,559 there hasn't been you know, win it all costs it 1068 00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,719 in previous years. I mean it's always been been like that, 1069 00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:51,599 but it's gotten to a point now where it's so 1070 00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:54,840 prevalent that a guy like Tony Bennett feels like he 1071 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,920 can't compete in it. And and then you lose coaches 1072 00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:01,320 like Jay Wright who mentioned coach k You mentioned it, 1073 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:05,320 Nick Saban. I mean, you may get to a point 1074 00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,559 where the quality of coaching just simply goes down because 1075 00:59:08,599 --> 00:59:11,880 the best minds of these sports don't want to, you know, 1076 00:59:12,159 --> 00:59:16,119 deal with with all of the side issues. So we'll 1077 00:59:16,159 --> 00:59:18,760 see how it goes. I really can't add much more 1078 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:22,000 to what what Tim said, uh because he because he 1079 00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:24,079 said it so well. But it's I think it's it's 1080 00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:27,440 a tricky time for the future of college athletics. And 1081 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,320 you know, it's not impossible to think that that people 1082 00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,920 will tune out if if we keep going in the 1083 00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,199 direction that that it goes. So we'll we'll see, but 1084 00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:41,599 that it's it's sad that Tony Bennett felt like he 1085 00:59:41,639 --> 00:59:43,480 had no other choice but to retire. 1086 00:59:44,679 --> 00:59:47,920 Speaker 2: And I'll use just briefly for my open mic, and 1087 00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:50,079 I I don't have anything to add. And what you 1088 00:59:50,119 --> 00:59:52,719 guys said about Tony Bennett, you both you all captured 1089 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:57,239 it all. Oh well, Tim, North Dakota State in South 1090 00:59:57,320 --> 01:00:01,199 Dakota State was probably the best game. And I'm not 1091 01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,199 being biased when I say this. Man, it was one 1092 01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:06,719 of the best games that I've seen all weekend at 1093 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:11,119 any level of college football. It was a defensive it 1094 01:00:11,159 --> 01:00:14,079 was a defensive battle unlike any other. And it's something 1095 01:00:14,199 --> 01:00:18,400 we could possibly see in the College Football FCS playoffs 1096 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,679 because they are going to run the FCS playoffs are 1097 01:00:20,679 --> 01:00:23,079 going to run through Fargo. Did you have a chance 1098 01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:25,239 to catch any of that game on Saturday? 1099 01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:28,400 Speaker 3: I did it, But I tell you this, the scene 1100 01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:36,760 pregame in Fargo, just the the atmosphere electric electric. Yeah, 1101 01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:39,360 that's that's just because that's become such a great game. 1102 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,280 It's it's kind of a bummer that it kind of, 1103 01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:45,039 like I said, kind of because we had it would 1104 01:00:45,079 --> 01:00:48,519 have been perfect this week. You know, this was this 1105 01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,760 would have been a perfect week because we had once again, 1106 01:00:50,840 --> 01:00:54,760 two more mega showdowns at the at the power for level. 1107 01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,360 This would have been such a perfect week. But I mean, 1108 01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:01,559 look north of goas I will say this, North Dakota 1109 01:01:01,639 --> 01:01:04,800 State losing close to Colorado, I mean that was never 1110 01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:06,800 gonna look bad, But man, does that look better and 1111 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:10,440 better every week because Colorado looks decent In South Dakota 1112 01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,000 State getting beat pretty good by Oklahoma State doesn't look 1113 01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:17,360 as good. Now, yeah, it looks not as good and 1114 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:21,400 more humh. But yeah, what a defensive game. This was 1115 01:01:22,599 --> 01:01:25,239 from just looking at the stats a little bit, and 1116 01:01:26,239 --> 01:01:29,199 it seems like though I will say, if I'm not mistaken, 1117 01:01:29,239 --> 01:01:32,599 what one of Montana's I've heard is looking very good 1118 01:01:32,599 --> 01:01:37,199 as well, if I'm not mistaken, in terms of the race, 1119 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,719 maybe to get the two seed over and get home 1120 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,840 field over South Dakota State, because at this point I 1121 01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,079 would assume and correct me if they're wrong. I mean 1122 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:50,840 maybe the offense may you know, could if the defense 1123 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,239 has a bad eight day, bad game, could make North 1124 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,000 Dakota State vulnerable for an upset in what is a 1125 01:01:57,079 --> 01:02:00,760 good Missouri Valley Football League. No, it feels like North 1126 01:02:00,840 --> 01:02:02,320 Dakota State as the one is coming. 1127 01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:04,960 Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Tim, Sorry, I mean to interrupt you because 1128 01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:07,880 and you know who the coach is at North at 1129 01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:12,880 Montana State, Brent Vegan, and he was a player at 1130 01:02:12,920 --> 01:02:15,440 where at North Dakota State University. 1131 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:19,719 Speaker 3: Well, he's got to be a guy maybe for amount 1132 01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:23,039 of West Opening or a PAC twelve or you know, 1133 01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,840 at some point he's got to get some consideration to 1134 01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:28,519 jump up the ladder a little bit because the job 1135 01:02:28,599 --> 01:02:31,320 he's done in Montana State. At some point I would 1136 01:02:31,320 --> 01:02:34,239 think he's got to jump up or get that chance. Eventually, 1137 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,000 someone's got to give him that chance. Someone's got to 1138 01:02:36,039 --> 01:02:39,400 give him. Jason Eck. There's some good there's some real 1139 01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:41,119 good coaches out there in that big Sky league is 1140 01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:46,199 called Montana, Montana State, Idaho some of those programs out there, 1141 01:02:46,199 --> 01:02:49,400 but yeah, Montana State, they they continue to be an 1142 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:53,400 impressive program and what they've built. And I'll tell you this, 1143 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,679 is it another year where the top four seeds, the 1144 01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:01,760 order of them is decided by whoever wins the obviously 1145 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,960 the Code of Market Bowl, and then the UH whoever 1146 01:03:05,039 --> 01:03:07,960 wins the UH the Brawl of the Wild. Maybe the 1147 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:11,800 best rivalry name in college sports might maybe I know, 1148 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:13,840 Montana's a couple of also now looking at it, but 1149 01:03:16,039 --> 01:03:17,880 you know, those top three or four spots could come 1150 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,400 down to that, So that would be fun to see. 1151 01:03:20,559 --> 01:03:24,480 Speaker 2: Definitely, Definitely, Tim, thank you for spending your Sunday evening 1152 01:03:24,519 --> 01:03:27,880 with us on the Allsmors Discussion ACC podcast, the longest 1153 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,440 run to independent ACC podcasts. 1154 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:30,519 Speaker 3: In the country. 1155 01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,559 Speaker 2: We'd love to have you come back on again during 1156 01:03:33,639 --> 01:03:37,559 college basketball season, during the men's college basketball season and 1157 01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:40,719 also discussing women's college basketball as well. Thank you for 1158 01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:43,760 spending your Sunday evening with guys. 1159 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:46,360 Speaker 3: I appreciate Its always always great to come on talk 1160 01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,760 to some ball with y'all. Look forward to the chance 1161 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,639 again coming up later on, and who knows, depending on 1162 01:03:52,679 --> 01:03:55,400 what things happen, there might be plenty of other things 1163 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,239 to talk about beyond just what's happened on the field 1164 01:03:58,239 --> 01:03:58,840 and on the court. 1165 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:03,679 Speaker 2: Definitely, diffinitely as every great week. Thanks so much, Bye 1166 01:04:03,719 --> 01:04:04,280 bye guys. 1167 01:04:05,880 --> 01:04:06,280 Speaker 3: Mm hmm