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Speaker 1: All right, thanks Matthew, Tim uh Which ACC football team
was the most disappointing in Week eight and which ACC
team do you think was the most impressive this past week?
Speaker 3: Well, let's start with the disappointments. Let's get that out
of the way first and foremost. Florida State stinks like
I haven't watched them in weeks. They're bad, Like I
can't believe it. Like I said, I know, I know
they've been bad, but I mean it's just it's just horrendous.
The quarterback plays a disaster. The team party is a mess,
just the team like they have talent, but they're not
a team. And norbel knows it. I think you could
see the pain on Mike Marvell's face like he knows,
like he's got an issue that can't be fixed until
he gets through this season. That's how bad it is.
It's the risk of the portal era where you have
so much turn if you get the wrong mix in
the locker room, it just falls apart. And also if
you have a quarterback mass like they have, that's far
The quarterback situation is far from the issue the only
issue Florida State has. But by Galley, it's a big one.
There's no doubt about it. I mean, dju wasn't it
Brock Glenn isn't it? Chrome Hook is so young he
needs time to develop. I mean, they gotta go portal quarterback.
And last thing Floridas they probably wasn't here is we
gotta go heavy on the portal. They probably gonna go
back heavy on the portal while they're trying to fix
how they build up their talent pool on the recruiting
side and maybe in the long term go more heavy
on the high school recruiting. But this Florida State team
is bad. I got no other way, but they're just bad.
I think that's one of the most disappointing teams this week.
Cow like another blownly another fourth quarter collapse for CAP.
I mean, it's just but they've been a fun story
all of their social media all that, but they've lost
four games by nine points, which you can say, all right,
they're good, they're so close, which is true, but you
got to know how the close football games, or if
you're up big like you were against Miami and against
an NC State team. That's been a major disappointment this year.
Though maybe it shouldn't have been as big of a
disappointment given how much they lost on defense. I think
in hindsight, Weed I think overlooked the fact today. I
think NC State had more rebuilding. We just kind of
wrote it off because of how good of a program
Dorin runs, how good of a defensive coordinator Tony Gibson is.
They also also Grace McCall without Jamie Chappell, does not
seem like a good combination, or at least McAll does
not seem like good player. Now I got C. J. Bailey,
he's figuring things out. But I mean another another collapse
for col in the fourth quarter for will Cox. I mean,
this is a missed opportunity for Callen. It's if they're
not careful, the season is gonna get away from them.
They're gonna miss out the whole game. Now, I will
say they could be a team that you know, you
look at that last week when they go to SNU
watch out, you never know and they I mean this there.
I think they can absolutely still get fine enough it's
a must win. It feels like against Oregon State, though
Syracuse coming across the country is interesting. They should win
at Wake. It should be Stanford comfortably. But it's gonna
be interesting to see. But Cal this week is a disappointment. Jeff,
You're gonna have to give a little more insight on
Georgia Tech and a special teams fass, because I've seen
some special team issues with Tech this year. It seems
like the past couple of games has been refreshing. Not
to see it really as much, but that that game
next week between Virginia Tech and Georgia Tech hot Frank
Beamer may need to find may need to just go
to the lake just so he doesn't have to see
the special teams mess based on your tweets at least
during that game, the special teams mess that may be
incoming to Lane Stadium next week. But a little disappointing
for Georgia Tech though you got you don't have Haynes
king in there. You know the games we play in
Mercedes FNS. Okay, I don't think I think I'd be
harsh if I threw him in there, but I think
this has got to be out full of the state
there just awful. Like I don't think I don't feel
good about Duke coming out of that game either, And
I think this has got to be about cal And
then you look at the other side. I think you
mentioned as well, who are the best? How about let's
start with Virginia Tech. The game I saw the game
I was inside Lane Steam Thursday night. Third quarter was
horrendous like that that was That's an issue they've had
all year. I think against Vanderbilt they had in the
first half where they were shell shocked by an interception.
They spiraled Odie against Old Pamingian adversity hits. In the
immediate aftermath, they struggle Boston College adversity hits and they
need a quarterback break to reset. The other two games
that need halftime to reset. Credit for resetting at that point,
but it takes them too long. If they do that again,
say against Clemson, it will cost them the game. Fortunately
up twenty to nothing halftime, you know you can get
away with that. But overall, great performance, facial tune and phenomenal.
I mean, that's maybe the greatest rushing performance in Virginia
Tech history. Darren Evans, Ryan Williams. And they never had
some great backs, Kevin Jones, Cyrus Lawrens, all these guys
like there have been so many great backs over the
years at Virginiat tach Kevin Leeds, Suggs, David Wilson, and
facial Tutan's gone to another level obviously, two hundred and
sixty six yards and he's making a case that hey,
I'm as talent as those guys work. Tremendous talent, tremendous
player Miami I think deserves credit. Louis was a good
football team. They're good foreign three football team. There's some
good this mid tier with Tech in Louisville. These four
are two four and three teams that are probably a
lot better than people nationally think of a four and
three ACC football team. They're good football teams. Miami, that
was a gutty win on the road at Louisville. It
may have been a little the scoreboard doesn't reflect the
gap that maybe should be in the reality of this.
How about UVA. Look, I know that in the end
Clubson took care of business, but you gotta I have
to give Tony Elliott credit. This was a program that
it just it just looked like it just wasn't working
with Elliott. They're four and three, but this is a
team that's clearly made strives. They may not get to
a bowl game. The schedule the rest of the way
is brutal for the Cavaliers, but they continue to put
some dignity and respect on their name. They beat a
couple of good a couple of ACC teams this year.
I have to give them credit. And then s n
U Kevin Jennings. I was confused why they were going
away from Preston so and not and like not backing him. Sorry. Lastly,
you knew what you were doing going with Jennings. They
figured it out, and that schedule sets up really really
well for SMU. It was always a pretty weak schedule,
like they should be favored the rest of the way.
Every game it's there for the taking for SMU to
be in Charlotte or at least be in a situation
we're gonna have a messy tie breaker. I will say this,
who would have thought Pitt at SMU would be one
of the biggest ACC games of the year preseason that's
looming in a couple of weeks. That's a huge game
on the AEC calendar that could be decisive and who
gets to Charlotte. And there may be a lot of
teams that are nervous about that game, not just SMU
and Pitt. Virginia Tech with one loss already trying to
get back into the picture. I think it's a big one.
Syracuse like some of these teams that need SMU to
slip up and collapse and find their way out of
the picture. So but SMU cantinues to take care of
their business. I have to give them credit, Like they
after a big win at Louisville, they got to go
all the way across the Stanford and they Stanford bad.
Like Stanford may be the worst team in the ACC,
but they go out out west, take care of their
business and get out of you. Gotta give them credit
for that.
Speaker 1: All right, awesome rundown there, Tim, And and I know
you'd mentioned Georgia Tech there. Yeah, special teams and I mean,
i'll just make it brief. It's it's it's basically Jeff
Collins esque. Uh at this point. Now the special teams,
which is kind of stunning, but it's it's it's bordering
on being that bad again. Uh. They it started out
with a with an inconsistency in the kicking game and
has gotten to a point where they can't even execute
the most fundamental of plays in the kicking game.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 1: The snap too to hold her is just a complete
adventure at this point. They're giving up big returns in
the punt return kick return. Notre Dame had two fakes
on special teams and both completely caught Georgia Tech off
guard and resulting in first downs for Notre Dames. So,
I mean, from my perspective, it wasn't so much disappointment
in the loss. That would have been a tall order
no matter what with with Pyn coming in. But they
played so poorly. I mean, they really played a poor game.
Special teams particularly was awful, but they really struggled on
the offensive line. I know, Notre Dame's outstanding, you know
their defensive front, but it was probably a good ten
to fourteen point different just on the special teams alone.
And in a game that was twenty four to seven
in the fourth quarter before the pick six, when the
game was out of reach, you know you're you're looking
at primarily the difference in the game special team so well,
I mean, Brent Key has a lot to try to
correct on that side of the ball before going into
Lane Stadium. So that kind of sets up for for
Week nine. What what ACC football games are you looking
forward to to most in Week nine?
Speaker 3: Got well, Jeff, I will say this, the special teams
is not something I'm looking forward to in that Virginia
Tech Georgia Tech matchup on both sides. The Virginia Tech
has started the it's been a couple of weeks in
a row, of a couple of games in a row
of Hey, there's nothing terrible, there's no blatant awful special
teams in stake that we're looking like what the leap happened?
But yeah, that may be that game. There's some risk
of special teams think that just yeah or just paid
to watch. I will say that I think is one
of the better games in the week. Uh you know
Georgia Tech physical football team. Uh, we don't know obviously
the status of Haynes king, but Zach Pyron, I mean
two years ago kind of that was kind of as
all right, this guy's got some talent. Moment when he
led Jordia Tech in a comeback against a Virginia Tech
team that just was a nightmare. In year one under
Brent Prye, Jamal Haynes, Virginia Tech's run defense hasn't been great,
and I think that's gonna be an interesting to see.
They've they've had moments and I think they if you
take out the sacks, about four point three yards would
carry all out. I know Rogu show Ward were both
kept under four yards were carried by by Tech against
Boston College. But this is one of those things where
Jamal Haynes is a good running back and this is
I think that's that's an area I'm fascinating. The sea
can Tech step up. And you know, this defensive line
I think is pretty good, but they gotta get they
they at times they can get pushed back a little bit.
So I think that's a fascinating matchup. And also Virginia Tech,
this is the stretch that can define redefine their season.
Georgia Tech at Syracuse and Clemson. This team has ambitions
to try to make the ACC Championship. They gotta win out.
You pick up one more loss, you're done. Two losses
will be too many. There's a team that expectation nine
plus wins. You gotta win out to do that. You
get the temptation is there to start looking ahead. Both
the Syracuse that road trip next week that looks pretty
darn big. Is probably could be an AC championship elimination game,
depending on what happens in a different game now I'm
gonna get to in a second. And then Clumbson of
course the Mega Showdown. That could be this massive, one
of the biggest a SEC games of the year, just
because Virginia Tech. I think, when I think when the
Hokies are at their best, they're probably the third most
talented team in the league. They have the third highest
ceiling behind Miami and Clemson when they're at their best.
With what we've seen this year over at I know
SU fans may disagree with naming Syracuse made Divans, Louisville
fans and the cap of case as well, but we've
started to see this tech team rolling. This is a
good test. Can they keep it up against the Georgia
tech team that's going to be ready looking for that
sex one to get to a bowl, hungary for it,
gonna be looking to kind of say, hey, you know
that Notre Dame game was one off, so that's I'm
very intrigued by that. Syracuse Pitts up Syracuse Pittsburgh on
Thursday night. Who would have thought preseason that this would
be a big a c C game, but this is
a big ACC game. I mean, look, Pitt's kind of
done this in relative obscurity to Somerset some extent, like
there's not been like a big win necessarily that you know,
was televised widely or you know, yeah, they beat West
Virginia early, but you know, the spotlight wasn't really on
them yet. The spotlight's been picking up. Now you get
a national televised game. Eli Holstein credit in r Doozy
Kate Bell. I mean, maybe our Doozy and Kate Bell
should uh Coast share a SEC Coach of the Year
at this rate. But you gotta give Nargoozi credit for evolving.
Desmond Reed is a dynamic playmaker in multiple ways. That's
gonna be a challenge for Syracuse. But on those side,
Cal McCord once again. I mean, I wonder what Ohio
State fans are thinking right now because this was not
the McCord I think they had. I think he's made
some strides in his development as well. So this is
a fascinating quarterback qortal matchup. Mccorda gets Holsteam probably the
two best gets from the portal in the ACC. Tyler
or Shack. Louisville maybe has a case. But I think
this is gonna be a fun game. I haven't got
a chance to watch a lot of Syracuse and Pitt
uh this game. I've will probably turn on and enjoy.
This should be a fun This is an old Big
East game, but this should be a fun one. And
obviously for Syracuse they want to get to Charlotte to
must win. For Pitt, you know what they got, they
got a gauntlet ahead the schedule is about the tough
enough a lot starting with this game. SMU Looming, Clemson
loving Louisville Looming. This is where they got to keep
it going. This is where they got to fire on
all cylinders. This is probably the game of the week,
I would say in the ACC. The way these teams
are playing and what they've done, it's gonna be a
fun one on Thursday night. I'll tell you that right now.
It is going to be a fun one. Duke get
or s MU at Duke. I'll be honest. I think
SMU may win this game by two or three touchdowns.
I know this is at Duke, but I'm just not
buying Duke. I just don't think they've been that impressive. Uh.
They may get eight wins and be one of the
worst eight and four teams we've ever seen, just because
the schedule is not that hard. I gotta give any
ideas credit getting them, getting them to a bowl game
in year one, keeping up what Elko had already started.
Got to give them credit, but their best wins over
North Carolina so far. But who knows. I mean maybe
this this Duke team knows all right, you know, this
is an opportunity to say, hey, we're actually a pretty
decent football team, and could Sam you get caught caught
sleeping a little bit? Because I don't think they're a
perfect team. I think they're they're figuring things out. But
you know, at Louisville, at Stanford at Duke, I mean
this is a brutal stretch for them too. They're crisscross
the country. At some point does that catch up? And
could this be a game where maybe they get caught
a little sleeping, especially because they have a big game
against pitt next week, get caught a little sleepy here?
Star Thomas and heck of a running looks like a
very town and running back. That game could be dicey.
So yeah, I think that's where the conversation starts this
week in the ACC. You know, Louisville Boston College is
a little intrigued on Friday night, un c Ubas are
old robbery. That's a big that's a game UVA has
to get if they want to get to a bowl game.
While for mac Brown, if you and C loses that
as well, look I think it's over. I think UNC
needs to move after this year. I think this is
for Mac Brown to retire. I think he's just lost
his edge even further. But you know, lose this game
of an old rivalry guy they got just puts the
some extra nails in the coffin at this point on.
For mac Brown's ten year at North Carolina, it may
be a force retirement, but it may be a retirement.
So yeah, guys, I think I think that covers it.
It's not like we're missing a big rivalry where we
have one team in it that has just been such
a joke this year and it's just been the biggest
is one of the biggest disasters we've ever seen in
terms of the preseason hype, and now we all just
got it so wrong. And I don't think any of
us could. It's not like not like there could be
a Miami poll or State game that we're not talking
about that somehow is just say, who cares, Miami's probably
gonna beat him by twenty, but maybe Florida State keeps,
you know, find some effort to only lose by thirteen.
Speaker 1: Right, Very good, tim Uh let's go national now. Uh, well,
you know, staying within the ACC, which which ACC team
and you kind of touched on a little bit already,
but uh, you know, which game team could be on
upset alert in Week nine if they're looking ahead to
a game on their schedule or otherwise just sleepwalking on
the field.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jeff, Well, I think it's it's it's two teams. Look,
because the Syracuse pick game is I think, Look, I
don't pay it's a Ford a half point favorite, but
I think that's a pretty pretty much feels like a
toss up. But I think it's SMU at Brirgika Tech
like both of those teams. Like Georgia Tech, I think
is a tough, physical team. They could run the football
well with Jamal Hayes if they get out to an
early le Virginia Tach's been much better start against Fast
that's kind of helped them turn the season around after
being terrible early. But if Georgia can get out there
early at start to lead on Jamal Hayes more and more, uh,
that could get interesting. I think Virginia Tech needs to
take control early helps us at home, whereas SEBU is
going on road. Look, no one's ever gonna fear playing
at Wallace Wade Stadium. Beautiful stadium, like gorgeous stadium. I
put up there as one of the most aesthetically pleasing
stadiums in the ACC Classic Bowl all that, but it's
not going to make it intimidate anyone at all. But
that could be a good That could be a good
thing for Duke with a big showdout next Weekend's pitt
with all the travel that SMU has had across the country,
and Duke maybe have a little bit of a chip
on their shoulder of all right, we have something to
prove that, hey, we're not this six and one team
that is just benefiting from a very weak schedule. Maybe
that game gets a little dicey and I don't and
like maybe SMU is not. If SEM comes down Cruises
in this game, I don't know if I would learn
that much, but it would have even more strongly thinking
SMU might just go eleven and one and run the table.
They may take advantage and be legitimately a good football
team in how they get there, even if it's not
the strongest schedule. But I think that's where it is.
I think that's where the upset orcs are. Maybe Oregon
State against Cal, I mean colanis stopped the pleague. This
is a game count needs to win. They're gonna get
their Bowl game and Oregon State's got plenty of chip,
plenty of a chip on their shoulder. I bet they'd
be like, Okay, look, we could have used Kalen staying
for to help us rebuild the Pac twelve even more,
we wouldn't have had to do. We'd be good. We'd
be done now when like we could only added like
Boise and San Diego State and and Gonzaga and been
done with it. But instead here they are. That could
be a game and Oregon stay stopping that. They've been
a pleasant surprise. I thought they might be bad just
because they lost everybody basically to the to the four
wins coach, most of the roster or most of starters
like all gone. Uh, they've been respectable. So I think
that's gonna be interesting. And no, I don't see a
path to Florida State pulling the upset. I do think
Miami minus twenty one and a half. I know Florida
State's bad, but I could see Florida State like make
holding this out a two touchdown margin just because there's
enough maybe enough pride there. They may not be. They
really may not be. Camp Boreen might just put up
fifty on them. And Florida State may have only seven
points because they can't figure out because they have no
quarterback and the team is just broken there. It is
probably a good thing, by the way, for Florida State's sake,
that this game is in Miami and not at FSU,
because if they got whooped by Miami at home, Oh my,
that would that would be in That could be an
ugly see. But yeah, I think get circles around Virginia
Tech and SMU. Maybe cow with Oregon State as well.
I think that could game be interesting, but SMU in
Virginia Tech. I think the two the big enough favorite
to be on upset work. By the way, movie though,
I think will take care of business of Boston College
or they're about touchdown, or I think Willigo cruise up there.
I don't think Boston College is that good at all.
Speaker 1: All right, Tim, let's let's go national here and step
out of the ACC for a bit. Which national FBS
game are you looking for you to the most in
this upcoming week? And we're wide open with this question.
It can be Power five, power four, now non power four,
and you can have an FBS matchup and then give
us the winner of that game.
Speaker 3: Well, I thank you. We got to talk about the
two big kind of group of five moments coming up here.
It's Boise Stay at UNLV and Notre Dame at Navy.
Think about this. If Navy wins this game against Notre
Dame and Boise State beats UNLV, Boise State's already in
the top twenty, Navy's undefeated in rings. Is it possible?
Is there a potential path any what happens to ac
in the Big twelve? Say Boise State wins out twelve
and one copperence chap Navy twelve to zero conference champ,
that they are high enough in the rankings to where
say Virginia Tech, for example, or Syracuse Like I said,
three lost Virginia Tech maybe a great example. It's there
like a two or three lost baby Kansas State or
Iowa State, depending on how the thing's by the Big twelve.
Say they are the big they see a Big twelve champs.
Could it be possible that there are two group of
five champs given how high Boise States and if Navy
can beat Notre Dame, and we're gonna have the same
scenario if Navy doesn't do it, if Armie does it
against Notre Dame. What happens. Could those two out rank
and keep the auto bid from going depending on if
there is an upset, say on the ACC side, orders
on the Big twelve side and keep an autobid A
conference champion autobid away from from a Power four conference
from an AEC or Big twelve champ. I think it's
in play now. It could completely blow up here the
next couple of weeks with Navy and Army when they
take on Notre Dame. Lose that game, It's it's gone
at that point, and I think Navy is the more
vulnerable one. They still got too lane South Florida could
be tricky if Byron Brown's healthy. Even if they get
through Notre Dame this week, I don't think they will.
I think Notre Dame will deliver, but the academies are
good and that brings a wrinkle into it. This is
a big moment for Boise State. I mean, this is
the Mountain West game of the year. We may get
it again. I'll bit in Boise because I think Boise
State will go to UNLB and get it done. But
I will say Hodgemlik Williams has I think it looks
like UNLV got the quarterback job wrong, going with Sluke
over Williams. Williams is at in the passing element with
and been able to utilize the fact that U and
LV has a stud wide receiver and Ricky White. But
Aston Jenny is playing on another planet right now. I mean,
he should be the Heisman. If he keeps us up
or even close to this up. I don't think he
like even he's not doesn't stay exactly but on the
Barry Sanders pace but goes over two thousand yards rushing.
I mean he should be the guy win the Eisman
this year. I think Genti's is too good. I think
what Boise is doing is too good. I think I
think Boise will take care of business. And I think
they're well on their way, and who knows. I mean
they could also end up just getting the bye the
fourth by over at ACC or Big twelve, if it's
say at Virginia Tech. If it's say maybe a two
loss like Iowa State or Kansas stay at the Big twelve.
If you have something like that play out, or even
like a pit someone who picks up a loss, it
just falls too far. It's just two par down like
S and us AS and US ten eleven to two
ACC champion. Maybe they don't get the buye. So there's
some things here. Those two games are really fascinating, I think,
especially and it's a good spotlight week for those two
games Boise and you and will be on a Friday night.
I wish it was not very at ten thirty on
CBS Sports Network because that's a big game just in
general for the Mountain West, for both of the seven
un LB is also in that group of five bit
hunt win this game and they're gonna be on the
also in a great spot. And like I said, Navy
and Army, you know those these are two big opportunities looming,
starting with Navy this week. It is a bummer though,
and I get it's never gonna be on campus at
Navy Army when Notre Name plays them, But man, how
cool it would be with this if this year, like
they've played this game in Annapolis. Imagine if Army played
Notre Name at last point. Imagine the scene with that,
especially with how good they are this year. So I
think it starts with those two games. You can't deny
LSU Texas A and M top of the SEC Battle,
big game for both in terms of playoff race as
well and the SEC championship race. I think the road
is open there for LSU. I'm starting to actually be
a believer. I I kind of thought they might be
a little bit fraudoy going to that Old Miss game,
especially with the lost US earlier, but they figured something
and the way they struggled at South Carolina, but they
figured some things out, took care of their business against
Ole Miss, beat them, found the way to win, took
care of the business last week, avoided a letdout against Arkansas.
Tough road game at A and M. But if LSU
gets through this game, they go they got Alabama, but
Alabama is at home and it's not They're not the
same team, and they get a buy leading in and
then it's at Florida Vanderbilt at home Oklahoma and home
LSU beats A and M. I think you. I think
LSU is going to Atlanta. I really think they can
get to Atlanta. And on the other side text A
and M. I think man have got cut sleeping looking
ahead to this game, big opportunity for an M. They
need a big win. The missoo wins a solid one.
Arkansas solid but they're not great wins. The MISSOO wins
doesn't look near as good. But A and M. Also,
you win this game, you got out South Carolina, New
Mexico State at Auburn, and then you get Texas at
home at the end of the year, which could be
a playing game for the SEC championship in that rivalry,
which by the way, I cannot wait for that rivalry
to back it is. That's like one of the few
good things re alignment in the past, this passway of
realignment has brought, is the restoration of that rivalry. It
is a huge game. Look, my mom went to A
and M for a couple of years, so I think
I'm gonna lean the I gotta lead the Aggies a
little bit here. But uh, if I had to pick
this game, and this game isn't Kyle Field, but this
should be a great game. So yeah, I think that's
where you gotta look. Also, Texas Vanderbilt, that's a fun one.
Nashville should be rocking. It's probably be a ton of
Texas fans there because Nashville is a great destination place
for a road fan base, kind of like how we're
seeing tons of Big ten fans go to the Rose
Bowl U C l A. Because once again Big ten
fans want to go to the Rose Bowl. It's warm,
Nashville is a fun city. SEC fans are gonna want
to go there always, like always we saw with also
with Virginia Tech Olers year. Texas gets the trip now,
but Vanderbilt's been Diego Pavia. They've been fun. Could Vanderbilt
catch them a little bit at least early on. Maybe
I think they'll take care of the business. Texas. I
think we'll getting done. But so there's some interesting games
out here, and I'll tell you this, b Yu's only
a one a half four point favorite UCF. Watch out for
that game. BYU's been playing with fire. I think they're
on beaten street. Could end this week at UCF. So
it's an interesting week there. We've had these big mega
weekends the past two weekends with these huge showdowns. Not
the case this week. But there's some interesting games. So
maybe this ls UI and M is with the way
the seasons developed, at least in the SEC race and
then the boise U n LV and Navy Notre Dame.
The stakes of those games. No names Navy. We'll look
back on saying Okay, that that may take the American
and put put the American champion behind a fall a
little bit compared to the Mount of West, but Notre Dame.
Navy Boys, State U and LV could be two of
the most impactful games this week, both Conference race Boys
State U and LV. One's gonna be in a great
spot to get the conference champion. The other is actually
gonna need some They need a tad bit of help
to get there and on the other side huge. Both
of those games have potentially huge implications for the playoff
race this year for that for one of those auto bids.
So it's gonna be a fascinating weekend and like I said,
a little more buzz about some games we wouldn't normally
have because of this playoff game. There this playoff, this
twelve teen playoff. I think that's I think that's that's
fun to say, that's fun to get excited about. These
games would be big anyway, but there's a little extra
stakes in there.
Speaker 1: It will be fun, all right, Tim Matthew, I'm gonna
turn it over to you for the last couple of
segments in the podcast.
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Tim, We're kind of changing things up a
little bit this time when middle of the season, we
decided to go with two open microphone segments, so we
kind of have were having fun with that. In this segment,
we're only going with an open microphone for our guests.
So guess what the floor is years Tam.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well thanks Matt. Look, let's we gotta we gotta
talk about the big news in the ACC this week.
The biggest news, and that's Tony Bennett. Uh. I look,
I was funny. I I just was just getting I
was weighing in traffic. It's just stopped in traffic right
outside lane's damn getting my parking. All of a sudden
I see a group message, a group chat, a bunch
of old buddy college plays. Mind blowing up. And I
checked Twitter and all of a sudden, see this brief
thing Tony Bennett retired. I'm like, hold on what? So
I get to my parking. I look at about going
to ESPN Richmond. The first thing I say, It's like,
is this been a thing? Real? This is stunny. Look.
I think people thought Tony Bett may not be one
of those guys who goes to seventy, but this is stunning.
And look, I think there's you know, I get this
a fair criticism of people say why would you leave
your team weeks before the season, But also, if you're
a player or coach in that program, do you want
a head coach who's phoning it in, who's just not
able to give it at all at the helm that
that's just not gonna go well, Like, if he doesn't
have it in the tank, then you don't want him. Look,
if let's be honest, look at Florida State. Those guys
don't have it in the tank right now, and it's
a disaster if they were. If normal would have known
that before the season, he would have probably put out
a whole different team or prepared differently. Like if you're
Tony Bettt and this obviously they're obviously not the same situations,
but like, if you're not all in in this sport,
you're gonna get wiped out in college sports. And I
have to I think Bennett deserves some credit for reckons
that it's not it's not great for the players, but
I thought it was fascinating. Also listening to his press
conference and one of the quotes he said about being
bullied on by his staff, And I've talked to some
people who said it's part of it's the humility of
Tony Banner, which is I think very true. But I
think there's a truth because, you know, especially with the
amalgamation of things. He said of that saying, look, I
know I can do it the old way, but I
think he realizes, hey, the way things are changing. I
just I've tried, but I I know I can't get there.
I'm not the guy to get there. And I think
he once, I think he thinks his staff can, and
I think I wonder part of it the timing was
kind of a thought in the back of his mind
to give honestly his his guys a chance because this
happens in April. I'm not sure if Fron Sanchez gets
that chance because his record at Charlie wasn't great. But
when you actually look at it, six wins year one,
the twenty two wins and a CBI title and it's
fifth and final year, but before you decide to rejoin
the UVA staff, that tells the real story of how
he built up that program. So yeah, I mean, this
is this is this is a sad day or this
this was a sad day for the sport of college
basketball and It just shows how unhealthy this college sports
are underneath the hood like outside right now. Ly and
this is even more true for college basketball, especially the
men's college basketball game is the most probably the most
unhealthy of all college sports right now. The outside the
car looks great, look at TV right, look at the
money all that, But if you open up that hood
you got, you could you immediately see the engines overheating.
We're in the wild West. It's gonna we need to
figure this out. We need structure. I mean, I agree
with all the maybe the solutions that benettings, you know,
with a salary cap, I don't know how he can
apply that, but those this revenue sharing and how that
may work indirectly or at least, hey, you got to
make some choice on allocation on these things. But we
need structure. The sport needs structure, We need contracts, We
need revenue sharing in college sports. I don't think this
would have necessarily changed Bennett long term in terms of
sticking around if it was already in place today, maybe
help a little, because I think Bennett's off the Lobul said,
he's an old schools but we're a slow build up guy,
and it's just hard to do that now in this era,
it's just it's not nearly as easy to do. And also,
you just look at all the things you're constantly recruiting,
Like the NFL has an off season, the NBA has
an off season, you're constantly recruiting in college sports, like
the dead periods aren't long, and you still might be
messaging a recruiter if they mess at you, Like we
need to cut these things off, like we need longer
quiet and dead periods. For example, in college sports, it's
absurd that the transferport on college basketball is still going
to open during the NCAA Tournament this year, Like why
it's not like there's a rush like with football, it
opens because because coaches want to get guys en roll
for the spring semester. Again for spring football, I get it,
it's a tight window, but maybe even football, maybe spring
football needs to die in this next way. Maybe it
needs to become like May June full spring. Maybe we
need to push those practices to them so that maybe
April now a bunch of off season workouts, and then
maybe April becomes the window where that's the portal window,
that's the off season portal window, so we don't have
the portal during bowl games, during the playoff during and
it fixes by the way, it takes it out of
the high school recruiting chaos at the end. So maybe
there's a lot of things we need to fix. And
the fact that Tony Bennett, and like I said, he
a retiring may have been coming anyway soon, but the
fact that it feels like this is a little earlier
than it may have been because of the mismanagement, because
of the reactiveness of the NCAAA, the reactiveness and the
greed of Saki and Patiti and all these Accy victories
whoever you want to say, you know your mac phillips
previous all this, the greed and the reactiveness and the
laziness of so many people in charge for so long
rather being proactively building towards what was going to happen
eventually anyway, And we've lost good people out of the business,
like Tony Bennett. That is a shame. I Carl Williams,
the quote was great though. She's one of these tons,
of these athletic directors who deserves a little bit of
the blame as well, along with the university presidents. You
would deserve even more of it because They're the ones
who really run the NCAA. As much as we want
to blame Emmert previously and now Charlie Baker, they are
the ones who ultimately run it and can adjust it
in terms of how it needs to adjust. It is
a shame for college sports that Tony Bennett is out
of this is out of the business. I hope he
stays involved. I hope, but it is a shame. Just
like Jay Wright, like I'm glad he's still involved CBS,
like it is a shame. College basketball is a way
less healthy college football. You have such these large support stats,
everything that helps a little bit the highest levels. But
we need to get this figured out. We need to
cut down some of these recruitings because if not, if
this just becomes this offseason less seventy hour a week constantly,
there's a lot of good people that we're gonna not
get into the sport, into these sports that could be
great for these young men and women across college sports,
and we're gonna kill a coach or too. Like this is,
We're gonna see people leave early, and we may kill
a coach or too, just because of the insane stress.
We've swung the pen the pendulum was way too far
one way, it swung way too far in the other.
This needs to be urgent. If it requires anti trust
from Congress to help, so be it. Get it done,
find a find a find a way. We're losing people
like Tony Bennett from this from sport, from our from
this world of college sports because of a system that
is so broken. Like enough is enough and it's it's
sad to see it. I hope he stays around. He
seems have some interest in doing that. I hope he does,
especially in college basketball, which is the worst of it
right now. I hope. I hope they can fix it.
I hope. There's so many things that need to be fixed.
There's so much greed and other things that are damaging this.
And like I said, players should be involved in the revenue.
They should be good. Now. We need to We need
to find a balance for everything. We need to find
systems and structure. We're in the wild West. I don't.
I think we're years away still, but we need to
keep making steps that the court case that's closing is positive,
but we need to make steps. We need to start
making it faster too. Someone needs to start making it faster,
and unfortunately because of the reactors, we're losing people like
Tony Bennett from the business and retiring early at fifty five.
He might I stayed them all much longer anyway, even
if things were good. But then at Jay Wright others like,
it's a bummer to see it.
Speaker 2: Very well said Okay, Tim, open microphone segment two. I'm
going to ask you a question. Then you can have
your open mic, but I want you to ask Mike.
I want you to answer my question here. So this
is a Homer question from my part. Run through Virginia
Tech schedule for me. On the football side, how do
you see the season ending for the Hokies? Timy there?
Speaker 1: Tim looks like, Tim, you let me unmute your unmute you? Tim?
Speaker 3: All right, there we go. I think my headphones just
gave out for a second there.
Speaker 2: Jim, Yeah, I can hear me now, we can hear you.
We can hear you better now, Actually, go ahead, answer
run through the hockey schedule for us. What do you
got for me? How do you think the football team
is gonna end up?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to predict game by game, but I
think this, I think this is a team that can
get to eight and four. I think they get the
nine ther I think they can win out. I think
they'll be Georgia Tech this week. I think they'll be
Duke in Virginia the end of the year at Syracuse.
It's a tricky game. Syracuse is legitimately a good team.
Clemson is gonna be a tough challenge, but I think
they can win that game. I think the way Virginia
Tech is played the past few weeks, they are playing
a much higher level. So I think it's eight and four.
I just don't think there's enough consistency there could they
I think it's the floor of seven and five at
this the ceilings obviously, I think nine to three, which
could be enough to get the Charlotte if SMU slips up,
and then of course it becomes a tiebreaker mess at
that point, which, oh my goodness, that's good. That's gonna
be fun to calculate and that that's not gonna have
people losing their minds. But yeah, so it's gonna be
interesting to see how it plays out. I will say this,
like I said I would lead eight and four, I
would say that if they finished nine and three, obviously
they meant it's a successful season. Matt expectations. The trajectory
is great in Blacksburg. Eight and four. I think it'd
be a little disappointing with the talent they have, especially
after the bad start they had again a bad start
to the season, but I would still feel good about
the trajectory. That program is on seven and five or worse,
and I got some concerns at this point. So yeah,
it's gonna be interesting, Matthew, I think it's I think guys,
it's gonna be I think eight and four if I
had to predict today, but I guess see nine three,
I can see seven and five. I don't think I
see worse than seven and five at this point for
Virginia Tech. I think they figured things out. But we'll
see this three game stretches the defining is going to
define this season or this four game stretch really, but
obviously they've taken one step in the right darks with
Boston College. These next three games before their second by
are going to define what it is Virginia Tech's season
and was it a successful season or not.
Speaker 2: Fair enough? What do you got for us, Tim, give
us your open Mike, you got another segment?
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like I said, I think it's let me
just say this about the Texas Georgia thing last night.
To take this national for a second, that was unacceptable
in every part of the world. Look, the call was terrible.
The call was terrible, the initial call that was not
a holding or defensive pass interference, but the precedent that
was set by just the terrible process. Was the right
call made at the end of the day or the
right non call. Yes, but we cannot just engineer or
let a bunch of fans losing their minds way too
much and throwing bottles on a field, which by the way,
could endanger cheerleaders down at that end, photographers, other game
people operating the game on the sideline endangers them. And
then that's going like they were about to resume play
if someone if they aren't throwing bottles, the game continues on.
And yes, it's a big controversial call, but we then
completely blew up a process. There should have been a
delay of game penaling against Texas for the fan behavior,
and then that's the process. So we changed the call
wouldn't have been changed basically because a bunch of bottles
got thrown on the field and a dangerous situation developed
in Austin last night. A two hundred fifty thousand dollars
fine isn't enough from the SEC, and I don't know
if they actually have the options to do it. But
in Europe, when you get bad fan behavior, you know
what they do. They kick the fans out for the
next game, the next home game. Okay, there we go.
You want you want to you want to punish fans,
and it's something maybe, honestly, we need to see across
American sports embrace. I know that would be controversial, but
if the fan behavior isn't if you want to fix
fan behavior, sometimes you want to prevent they gotta do
it because they get some way worse stuff, by the
way than what we get here in the US. But like,
you can't have that, and once again it it's not
the first time we've seen. Fortunately, this didn't have an
out impact on the outcome in the game, and yes
it was the right call, but we've seen a few
times now where it feels like the refs are not
following the strict processes or letting other things. And look,
they're human, I get it, and maybe there's some we
got to figure out to keep good refs in because
some of this stuff will get will cost us some
officials and then stretch the other ones thin because we
just don't have enough. And social media has been bad
for that as well. It kind of gets ridiculous. But
we've had some officiating management issues that have been bad,
and part of it maybe the League office is not
doing their job of setting these refs up. We had
it with this game, like said, how we got to
the right call, but it was a terrible and acceptable
process that should never happen Tech Miami and there's a
lot of money there. Maybe some Miami fans listening are
about the roll of their eyes here for a second.
But whether you think that was a catch or not,
was never conclusive evidence to overturn it. And it felt
like that in overturning it, and the lack of a
clear explanation because it wasn't clear was Hey, we think
we got it wrong with the initial call, so we're
gonna try to We're just gonna flip it to that
even if we don't meet the standard. And I mean,
it's just one of those things where I that's another
process that was I have no indication how they met
the standard of conclusiveness, not to bring up something from
a month ago. But like I said, I think these
leagues got to do a better job, and maybe we
need to centralize this more. Maybe the SEC, Big ten,
Big twelve acc collectively and they got all the money,
so maybe support all the other leagues beneath it. And
by the way, use those as development grounds for your
officials need to come together form a national officiating body,
both for that for college basketball, because you hear these
stories about these officials going here and there and all across
the because the best ones coaches will call them up
and say, hey, we will collectively we want you to
come to our game, but we need we got to
fix that. But you can't have the scene of what
happened in Texas. And I will say this to close
out as well. I hope that SEC fine isn't just
going to Georgia just Georgia doesn't need two in fifty thousand.
Give it the charity like be storming the field fins
like Vanderbilt had to pay Alabama one hundred grand. I
think Arkansas to pay Tennessee two and fifty grand. Like
the finds go to the other athletic departments, like what
are we doing here? Y'all are rich, y'all are really
rich with that TV deal? What are we doing? What
are we doing? Give it the charity? Do you really
need all that money that bad to keep it in house?
That's just ridiculous. So yeah, just some ridiculous ridiculousness in
the sec that was unacceptable though you cannot have It's
it's hard for me to see the case how that
didn't affect the game. And imagine if Texas wins off
that it would have been the right call. But imagine
that type of thing. The what that the message that sends.
I hope this week that maybe the sport collectively, maybe
the leagues need the collectively put out statement to say, hey,
this is not acceptable by any fan base because we
cannot have that, because right now there may be fans say,
are right? The cost of worth it? It's not my money.
These schools are not defined, you know, so maybe you
you know, you get a controversial call lay in a game,
all right, maybe just throw a bottle on the on
the field influence the refs. That is a dangerous, dangerous
precedent that could get people hurt. If it's not more
than just a fine. If it's not stamped out immediately.
And I know people say it's only one one time,
but it's a classic thing. We give someone give something
an inch, it'll take a mile. Give this an inch
and don't make the punishment severe. It opens the door,
especially in the high stakes, of what part of what
we love about college football is the immense passion of
fans who feel like they can impact the game, but
they may try to impact the game in ways that
should never happen.
Speaker 2: Well said Tim Jeff, you're up, buddy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't I don't know how I can follow
those open mics from from Timmy. He just nailed it
on both those topics. But uh, I'll just add on
on Tony Tony Bennett, I mean from from a coaching
perspective and what he's meant to Virginia basketball and and
ACC in general. I mean this, you know that he
he came in at a time when when coach k
and Roy Williams, I mean it was He's going to
be right up there with with some of those guys,
you know, like the Gary Williams who challenged Duke in
the in the early you know, late nineties and early
two thousands and guys in the in the eighties when
when Dean Smith and Coach K were still there dominating things,
and you had like the left of Cells and the
Bobby Kremins who who you know, made their mark challenging them,
and and Tony Bennett is right there above the all
time greats, you know, going up against Roy Williams and
Coach K and winning a national title and making what
many felt like was the best acc program you know
of the twenty tens. And he had his style and
he just hes stuck with it despite you know, the
cristicism from some circles, you know, and then following that
one sixteen loss, that historic loss, to come back and
win a national title of the year after, I mean,
with the incredible amount of pressure that team was under
to do that. You know, he's a certain Hall of
famer and it's it is disappointing. And Tim just hit
was great, hitting on the points of what the state
of college athletics is. You know, we're getting to a
point where we're not looking to emulate and have coaches,
you know, like the Tony Bennett's or to coach K's
or Dean Smith's, you know, the Nick Sabans these these
kind of coaches, you know, are not who the next
generation is going to try to to hire and be like,
I mean, we're going we're headed towards the future where
the coach that schools that want to compete are going
to be pattering themselves after you know, Kirby Smart, you know,
unbelievable coach. Don't get me wrong, Kirby Smart is an
absolutely unbelievable coach. But nothing else matters at Georgia except
winning football games. You know, who cares about graduation rates,
arrest whatever, doesn't matter. I mean, they have the perfect
football machine at Georgia for this era of college athletics.
And if that's the future, you know, we're all gonna
have to get get used to, you know, more programs
like Georgia, more coaches like Kirby Smart and and and
I think that's that's sad, you know that we're headed
in that direction. And it's not that we haven't had renegade. No,
I won't say renegade, but it isn't like you know,
there hasn't been you know, win it all costs it
in previous years. I mean it's always been been like that,
but it's gotten to a point now where it's so
prevalent that a guy like Tony Bennett feels like he
can't compete in it. And and then you lose coaches
like Jay Wright who mentioned coach k You mentioned it,
Nick Saban. I mean, you may get to a point
where the quality of coaching just simply goes down because
the best minds of these sports don't want to, you know,
deal with with all of the side issues. So we'll
see how it goes. I really can't add much more
to what what Tim said, uh because he because he
said it so well. But it's I think it's it's
a tricky time for the future of college athletics. And
you know, it's not impossible to think that that people
will tune out if if we keep going in the
direction that that it goes. So we'll we'll see, but
that it's it's sad that Tony Bennett felt like he
had no other choice but to retire.
Speaker 2: And I'll use just briefly for my open mic, and
I I don't have anything to add. And what you
guys said about Tony Bennett, you both you all captured
it all. Oh well, Tim, North Dakota State in South
Dakota State was probably the best game. And I'm not
being biased when I say this. Man, it was one
of the best games that I've seen all weekend at
any level of college football. It was a defensive it
was a defensive battle unlike any other. And it's something
we could possibly see in the College Football FCS playoffs
because they are going to run the FCS playoffs are
going to run through Fargo. Did you have a chance
to catch any of that game on Saturday?
Speaker 3: I did it, But I tell you this, the scene
pregame in Fargo, just the the atmosphere electric electric. Yeah,
that's that's just because that's become such a great game.
It's it's kind of a bummer that it kind of,
like I said, kind of because we had it would
have been perfect this week. You know, this was this
would have been a perfect week because we had once again,
two more mega showdowns at the at the power for level.
This would have been such a perfect week. But I mean,
look north of goas I will say this, North Dakota
State losing close to Colorado, I mean that was never
gonna look bad, But man, does that look better and
better every week because Colorado looks decent In South Dakota
State getting beat pretty good by Oklahoma State doesn't look
as good. Now, yeah, it looks not as good and
more humh. But yeah, what a defensive game. This was
from just looking at the stats a little bit, and
it seems like though I will say, if I'm not mistaken,
what one of Montana's I've heard is looking very good
as well, if I'm not mistaken, in terms of the race,
maybe to get the two seed over and get home
field over South Dakota State, because at this point I
would assume and correct me if they're wrong. I mean
maybe the offense may you know, could if the defense
has a bad eight day, bad game, could make North
Dakota State vulnerable for an upset in what is a
good Missouri Valley Football League. No, it feels like North
Dakota State as the one is coming.
Speaker 2: Absolutely right, Tim, Sorry, I mean to interrupt you because
and you know who the coach is at North at
Montana State, Brent Vegan, and he was a player at
where at North Dakota State University.
Speaker 3: Well, he's got to be a guy maybe for amount
of West Opening or a PAC twelve or you know,
at some point he's got to get some consideration to
jump up the ladder a little bit because the job
he's done in Montana State. At some point I would
think he's got to jump up or get that chance. Eventually,
someone's got to give him that chance. Someone's got to
give him. Jason Eck. There's some good there's some real
good coaches out there in that big Sky league is
called Montana, Montana State, Idaho some of those programs out there,
but yeah, Montana State, they they continue to be an
impressive program and what they've built. And I'll tell you this,
is it another year where the top four seeds, the
order of them is decided by whoever wins the obviously
the Code of Market Bowl, and then the UH whoever
wins the UH the Brawl of the Wild. Maybe the
best rivalry name in college sports might maybe I know,
Montana's a couple of also now looking at it, but
you know, those top three or four spots could come
down to that, So that would be fun to see.
Speaker 2: Definitely, Definitely, Tim, thank you for spending your Sunday evening
with us on the Allsmors Discussion ACC podcast, the longest
run to independent ACC podcasts.
Speaker 3: In the country.
Speaker 2: We'd love to have you come back on again during
college basketball season, during the men's college basketball season and
also discussing women's college basketball as well. Thank you for
spending your Sunday evening with guys.
Speaker 3: I appreciate Its always always great to come on talk
to some ball with y'all. Look forward to the chance
again coming up later on, and who knows, depending on
what things happen, there might be plenty of other things
to talk about beyond just what's happened on the field
and on the court.
Speaker 2: Definitely, diffinitely as every great week. Thanks so much, Bye
bye guys.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm