Speaker 1: Look.
Speaker 2: I mean, would I watch like some sort of sort
Speaker 2: of life and death trials of citizens?
Speaker 3: I probably would, but I would want to see it live.
Speaker 1: I don't want the clip show.
Speaker 3: There are three trials. The first one is camping, the
Speaker 3: second one is hiking, and the third one is Amaze.
Speaker 3: It's so stupid. It's always the most obvious stuff.
Speaker 4: It was like the man was wearing a party hat
Speaker 4: and his his shirt had a pin on it that
Speaker 4: said lordie, lordie, look who's forty.
Speaker 5: When the reveal was that his full name was Malachi,
Speaker 5: I did instantly find him hotter.
Speaker 6: And I can't explain.
Speaker 2: I am so tired of the female protagonist that the
Speaker 2: male needs to feed because.
Speaker 1: Otherthwise she's going to starve.
Speaker 6: It's like being poor, being poor.
Speaker 3: Amazed, Powerless, Powerless, Powerless, Hello everyone, and welcome back to
Speaker 3: Me book Club. This week we read Powerless by Lauren Roberts.
Speaker 2: Ooh, power Less a pick me female protagonist.
Speaker 1: Can you believe we're doing a female.
Speaker 3: Protect this podcast? Is this a book we've read before? Perhaps?
Speaker 6: Anyway, we are literally And I was like, I'd believe it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know it's you understand it's going to happen
Speaker 2: and probably soon yeah episode we release.
Speaker 1: It and then people one's like wait, yeah, so it's
Speaker 1: like you like, none of us catch it on?
Speaker 3: None of us. Remember, we read so many of these
Speaker 3: it is hard to keep track. Anyway. We are mean
Speaker 3: book Club read New York Times bestsellers that you want
Speaker 3: us to whine about. As always, I'm Sarah Burton, I'm Jonas.
Speaker 6: Grabis, and I'm Sabrina b.
Speaker 3: Jordan, and Clara is perhaps joining, perhaps not doing her
Speaker 3: mysterious thing, but let's keep going. Powerless again by Lauren Roberts.
Speaker 3: My goodness, why are we reading this book? It's because
Speaker 3: Sarah b No, not me, Sarah Bigger Staff. She's wrote
Speaker 3: to us and said, I love your show, and having
Speaker 3: just discovered it recently, I'm enjoining binge listening to it.
Speaker 3: I regularly burst out laughing at the gym or walking
Speaker 3: my dog as I listened and attract some funny looks.
Speaker 3: My recommendation for a formulaight cringey, poorly written New York
Speaker 3: Times bestseller book is Powerless by Lauren Roberts. I know
Speaker 3: you've done a few fantasy books recently, and this has
Speaker 3: a lot colm with Fourth Ring Wing. However, there is
Speaker 3: so much tackle in this book, from the painfully stereotypical
Speaker 3: character descriptions to the incorrect use of language guttural being
Speaker 3: used to describe something visual anyone. I just couldn't understand
Speaker 3: this book success, and I'm excited to hear you give
Speaker 3: it the full NBC treatment. All Right, well, here we go.
Speaker 5: Can I say what I love most about this is
Speaker 5: she felt like she needed to defend.
Speaker 6: She's like, I know.
Speaker 5: You've already done a lot of these and you're probably
Speaker 5: not gonna want to do another.
Speaker 6: It's like, oh, Sarah, we want to do enough.
Speaker 3: Sarah, Now, that's right up our alley. You didn't need this.
Speaker 6: I kept thinking, what a good wreck.
Speaker 3: Sarah are Sarah B.
Speaker 2: I just want to say I'm proud at you, proud
Speaker 2: of you for skipping over the greeting, which was Hi Sarah, Clara, Sabrina,
Speaker 2: and Johanna. I just I feel like that was it
Speaker 2: was an would have been an easy attack, and it
Speaker 2: will be remembered during a little fucker.
Speaker 5: Okay, oh I thought you met you were coming after
Speaker 5: other Sarah bid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's at the top.
Speaker 5: What you meant is I need to do something even
Speaker 5: more chivalrous than Sarah has just done set up.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, oh wow, chivalry.
Speaker 1: A gentleman like we had in this book.
Speaker 3: But like Kai, so I just I pulled a Kai. Well,
Speaker 3: real low bar for Kai, real low bar for me. So,
Speaker 3: how did you guys read this book?
Speaker 6: You know what I did?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: You know it was I did three point five three
Speaker 5: point five times audio.
Speaker 1: You gotta do it with a seventeen hour audio book.
Speaker 6: It's so long.
Speaker 3: Unnecessarily, I started this with audio, and I switched to
Speaker 3: reading it in like on my phone because it was
Speaker 3: so much faster, because you can skim this baby real good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know this book is powerless, but I never
Speaker 5: feel as powerful as when I can listen and retain
Speaker 5: at three point five time speed.
Speaker 6: I feel superhuman when I do it.
Speaker 3: And there is a lot of repetition in this book.
Speaker 3: There was a lot of the same conversation happening again
Speaker 3: and again.
Speaker 1: So a lot of twitching mouths and quivering.
Speaker 3: Lips yes, and blinking blue eyes. I want to say I.
Speaker 2: Ended up with three copies of this book, and two
Speaker 2: of them have been safely returned to the public library.
Speaker 3: Were any of them like the original? Because you know,
Speaker 3: like this was self published originally, so like we're any
Speaker 3: of them, like no first edition.
Speaker 2: They all looked the same as the audiobook that I
Speaker 2: ended up listening to in desperation at the last minute.
Speaker 3: Okay, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: Get through the hardbacks.
Speaker 3: All right, fair, fair fair Okay. Also reading, switching from
Speaker 3: the audio to reading, it was really funny to me
Speaker 3: because the reveal of how you spell the name Peyton
Speaker 3: was really good for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, across the spelling of it. But I came across this.
Speaker 5: I think it might have been in like the the
Speaker 5: description of the audiobook, which I just had not looked at.
Speaker 5: And then at the very end, I was like, what
Speaker 5: this he's a E.
Speaker 1: D y N.
Speaker 3: Is that what we're sorry?
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't name your child that. Don't do that to
Speaker 1: a person.
Speaker 3: Oh, I just can't can't wait to give you a
Speaker 3: little more info.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, And I say that, Look, I say that
Speaker 2: as a Johanna. And by the way, no, I meant
Speaker 2: no malage towards Sarah B. You're You're right, I'm the
Speaker 2: one that has the name. You and the rest of
Speaker 2: the world are right.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just saying, as a person with a
Speaker 1: strange name, don't do it to a child.
Speaker 2: Just let them be a Sarah, Let them be a Kate.
Speaker 2: Let them if you want to add a little flavor,
Speaker 2: a little color, let them.
Speaker 3: Be a Sabrino's.
Speaker 5: It's just actually, I love all sabrina.
Speaker 3: I know it's about to say, there's some pretty famous Sobrina's. Okay,
Speaker 3: guys are ready to do Sarah name first? Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: it's a tab. I don't know. This is a new thing.
Speaker 3: Do you notice that there's a tab? No?
Speaker 1: A tab?
Speaker 3: You see the document? There's a document tab? No?
Speaker 1: What do you mean a document to the side.
Speaker 3: Oh no, this is really going to mess them up,
Speaker 3: isn't it?
Speaker 6: Just? Okay idea?
Speaker 2: But this is a really annoying way to do this.
Speaker 2: Why didn't you just put it on the outline.
Speaker 6: Because I wanted to do it this way.
Speaker 1: I don't like this.
Speaker 3: It was easier for me.
Speaker 1: You're back on the chopping plot.
Speaker 3: This is so much better. Okay, sorry, I'm just realizing
Speaker 3: this is really just a conversation between Okay, so basically
Speaker 3: this summary Lauren Roberts, the writer. She basically went live
Speaker 3: on TikTok to talk about her idea for this book.
Speaker 3: And so this is just this is what I imagine happened
Speaker 3: when she went live. Okay, this is the year twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two. Yeah, I should give you roles? Uh Sabrina?
Speaker 3: Do you want to be Lauren Roberts? Okay? Lauren?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 3: And JOHNA. Would you like to be all the randos? Great?
Speaker 1: I would love to wait.
Speaker 6: Sorry, who was my who was my second one?
Speaker 3: You're just Lauren, just Lauren Roberts, the author belong?
Speaker 6: And who else was? I?
Speaker 3: Nobody? Felt like nobody else? Okay, what's happening?
Speaker 2: Saverna, revealing she has never heard of the author's name before,
Speaker 2: and I'm now doubting she has even.
Speaker 1: Knowed this book. She's clicking around looking really confused, like
Speaker 1: I see lights flashing.
Speaker 3: It's just the.
Speaker 6: No, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: She's in a panic.
Speaker 3: Why did you guys? You were at the tap, you
Speaker 3: found the tab and now.
Speaker 6: I found the tab?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, okay, you guys, are we ready? Okay,
Speaker 3: I'll just say this again. I'll set in the scene.
Speaker 3: Lauren Roberts goes live on TikTok in the year twenty
Speaker 3: twenty two.
Speaker 5: Hey, girlies, I just got an idea for a book,
Speaker 5: and I want to spitball with it with y'all.
Speaker 3: What if there.
Speaker 5: Was this homeless eighteen year old and she has to
Speaker 5: pretend to have magic powers because.
Speaker 6: Okay, in her world, people don't have magic powers.
Speaker 5: Those people are called ordinary or like diseased. They get shunned.
Speaker 5: I'm still working on that. But anyway, this girl, she
Speaker 5: gets selected for this, like, let's just rip from the
Speaker 5: Hunger Games, a Hunger Games thing and all because she
Speaker 5: saved one of the prince's lives.
Speaker 2: Lauren, big fan, Can the prince also compete in the
Speaker 2: Hunger Games thing?
Speaker 6: Does that make sense? Doesn't matter?
Speaker 5: Okay, yes, yes, because then they can beat the shit
Speaker 5: out of each other.
Speaker 6: And then almost take out a bunch Yeah. Nah, enemies
Speaker 6: to lovers, baby?
Speaker 4: Oh is there a resistance like the Ordinaries they're trying
Speaker 4: to take down the king?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I love that she can find out
Speaker 5: about that, Like halfway through the book. She really know
Speaker 5: about it before because she was too busy being homeless
Speaker 5: and stealing honey buns and pickpocketing and anyway, okay, so
Speaker 5: this girl has she's already infiltrated the castle and.
Speaker 6: Then since they stay there to compete in the trials.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then she walks around and she hangs out
Speaker 5: with both the hot bad boy prince who she's competing with,
Speaker 5: and then the other like golden retriever prince who will
Speaker 5: one day be king.
Speaker 1: Uh Lauren, random fan number three here, I just want
Speaker 1: to pop in to say love try and go with
Speaker 1: air and despair. I absolutely love it.
Speaker 5: Right, Oh my god, that's such a good way to
Speaker 5: describe it. Okay, so she's like so hot and they're
Speaker 5: both of us ass but okay, get this, it's it's
Speaker 5: complicated because the king killed her dad, like she remembers,
Speaker 5: it hasn't that's right. In this world, there's an orcer
Speaker 5: who's supposed to be killing.
Speaker 6: Baddies, but also the king did the killing himself.
Speaker 3: Also, the king.
Speaker 5: Lets this girl, the daughter who trader Be killed, stay
Speaker 5: in his castle and eat his food and dance with
Speaker 5: his sons and flirt with them shamelessly. You know, literally,
Speaker 5: there is no one watching her and no.
Speaker 6: Rules, and it does not matter. Just know that even
Speaker 6: though he's like a chill dad, he is a bad.
Speaker 4: King, Lauren, this is Stanley from Cleveland, Illinois.
Speaker 1: Can we talk more about that hot bad boy prince?
Speaker 6: Oh? Absolutely fucking lonely.
Speaker 5: He's the spare, sure, but unlike Harry, he gets a
Speaker 5: cool job in Orser, so he gets tortured all his
Speaker 5: life so that he can be like, this job isn't
Speaker 5: so bad.
Speaker 6: So what I wrapped up your fingernails? My dad did
Speaker 6: that to me all that time.
Speaker 4: Oh did that really fuck him up? Make him twisted
Speaker 4: like a silent killer? No?
Speaker 3: I mean not.
Speaker 5: Really like Okay, even though he had been physically and
Speaker 5: mentally tortured since he was a young child, he's still
Speaker 5: like a good heart because he does let an.
Speaker 6: Ordinary kid lave the kingdom instead of killing him.
Speaker 5: So that is where we're gonna see growth in this character.
Speaker 6: He's also cocky and of course uffler. Oh and his power.
Speaker 5: Is just it's just like, you know what, we don't
Speaker 5: want to limit It's gonna be everyone's power whatever he wants.
Speaker 1: He can sense.
Speaker 7: Powers a friend and found on the sixth Here Wait,
Speaker 7: what didn't that mean? He could sense immediately that that
Speaker 7: orphan girl doesn't have powers.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but but she's hot, so he like totally buys
Speaker 5: her bullshit about her power just.
Speaker 6: Being like a little well does she even look out?
Speaker 3: Well? Does she have a friend.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a total bestie, and she'll probably be too busy
Speaker 5: flirting and fighting to talk to her most of the
Speaker 5: book until.
Speaker 6: Until her bestie dies, which is.
Speaker 5: Gonna be so sad of course, but we yeah it's
Speaker 5: pretty sad because we're gonna like all know her really well, y'all?
Speaker 4: Does she have to deal with a lot of sexism
Speaker 4: during her trials, like people not thinking she can do
Speaker 4: things just because she's a girl.
Speaker 5: Oh no, No, just like our world, feminism and internalized
Speaker 5: misogyny don't exist because.
Speaker 3: Everything's equal and there's like never.
Speaker 6: Any conflict regender and sex.
Speaker 3: And all that.
Speaker 5: Also, who cares anyway, because she's not like the other girls.
Speaker 6: She's just like hanging.
Speaker 5: Out with the guys better because they get her.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 6: So what do you guys think?
Speaker 1: Everyone always thinks my name is Peyton, but it's really Peyton.
Speaker 1: Can you give her my name so people can start
Speaker 1: spelling my name? Right?
Speaker 3: I need help?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: And see that was a word for word from that
Speaker 3: TikTok live. It's a really long TikTok live. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1: What she is Sarah is joking? Sarah wrote this.
Speaker 3: I did sorry.
Speaker 5: I was distracted for a minute I guess I let
Speaker 5: down my smart.
Speaker 6: Well.
Speaker 3: That last part really was from the TikTok Live that
Speaker 3: there was a girl on there who was like, this
Speaker 3: is my name? Can you use my name? Really? Okay?
Speaker 1: So that was the kindness.
Speaker 3: That was good. Get it out there. I really would
Speaker 3: love for a.
Speaker 2: Johanna to blow up, either positively or negatively, like we
Speaker 2: can have a negatively.
Speaker 3: You really want to put that out there.
Speaker 1: I just want the name known. I don't care it.
Speaker 3: All, does it okay? I wouldn't.
Speaker 2: You're right, you don't want to wish and ate off
Speaker 2: on yourself. You don't want to wish of Karen on yourself.
Speaker 2: But at least nobody's saying Karne. Everybody's saying Karen. They
Speaker 2: know they know your name. Nobody was saying it's true.
Speaker 2: I'm happy for Peyden. Yeah that was great, Sarah, really funny.
Speaker 3: It was really tight. Tight.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wouldn't. I wouldn't cut a word in the future.
Speaker 3: No perfect looks some of us. You know we did it,
Speaker 3: So let's let'll just stick with that. Johanna, do you
Speaker 3: have a Johanna's jugs a wine pairing for this book?
Speaker 2: So I did forget until this moment. Actually, I know
Speaker 2: that seems crazy, like how.
Speaker 1: Could something that happen? It's my only job, Like it's
Speaker 1: like literally finished the book.
Speaker 2: Log on and then bring a wine. I will say
Speaker 2: a little funny anecdote. We had Matt's parents visited this
Speaker 2: weekend and we all. Matt was like, here, I got
Speaker 2: a bottle of red wine. And I was like, you
Speaker 2: know what, I haven't been drinking recently. Whatever I'm cracking into,
Speaker 2: gonna indulge in this red wine. And he pours us
Speaker 2: all the glass and we all took a sip and.
Speaker 1: Everyone silently had like a moment of just like panic,
Speaker 1: and then one by one everyone was like, there's something
Speaker 1: wrong with the wine, so.
Speaker 4: Sad, and we were all like everyone was like jumping,
Speaker 4: like I don't think I could drink this.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really bad.
Speaker 2: And Matt's mom was like, where did you get it?
Speaker 2: And I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I just someone must have brought it to our house.
Speaker 1: And I looked at the bottle. It was an alcohol
Speaker 1: removed wine. It wasn't I know, it's crazy not alcoholic
Speaker 1: wine that you have. It was alcohol removed. I mean
Speaker 1: it's literally just tasted like red wine.
Speaker 2: Vinegar, I say, don't do that, And I don't think
Speaker 2: this is so that works that.
Speaker 1: I know for this, Yeah, I guess, you know. I
Speaker 1: just think, like, enjoy a soda, you know, I don't
Speaker 1: have to do. You don't have to subject yourself to something.
Speaker 5: I have a de alcoholized wine in my fridge that
Speaker 5: I was actually pretty excited about from act.
Speaker 1: I mean you were excited to try it?
Speaker 3: Or yeah, I'm surprised Johnny yourself. Yeah, because don't you
Speaker 3: like beer that's no alcoholic, Like, aren't you like alcoholic.
Speaker 6: Beer is very good?
Speaker 3: Or was that you?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 2: Okay, sometimes I have to drink it?
Speaker 3: All right, all right, fair, fair, I mean you don't
Speaker 3: have to drink it. This is my point is that
Speaker 3: you don't have to. You can just have something else
Speaker 3: that doesn't have alcohol in its true true.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, if you're abstaining, I will I would
Speaker 2: say a non alcoholic beer ten times over a non
Speaker 2: alcoholic wine.
Speaker 3: Okay, sure?
Speaker 5: And that soda did you drain it or did you
Speaker 5: drink it?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we threw it away.
Speaker 2: And I am sorry Mike and Dan, because you are
Speaker 2: the people gave me that wine. I specifically remember now
Speaker 2: I apologize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it went down the sink.
Speaker 3: And just like this book in some ways, what are
Speaker 3: you trying to read back to the book where in
Speaker 3: which I prepared for Yeah, and it's it's supposed to
Speaker 3: have something to do with the book.
Speaker 2: I think, Well, like you said, my thought was ya,
Speaker 2: it's a non alcoholic wine.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was your thought?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay if I yeah, all right, So.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you Janna, I agree with you that that was
Speaker 5: your thought, and I really support you.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sabrina.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, hap should I call you Kai?
Speaker 6: Oh my god?
Speaker 3: MALICKI, oh my god, this book.
Speaker 5: When the reveal his full name was malik Ki, I
Speaker 5: did instantly find him hotter.
Speaker 6: And I can't explain that.
Speaker 3: Because it's a bad boy name.
Speaker 6: No, it's just a hot name.
Speaker 2: But the brother is Kip right, it's kit kit kit okay,
Speaker 2: well like.
Speaker 6: Kit Kit Ridge the American girl doll.
Speaker 1: Okay. But did he have a short as well? Was
Speaker 1: it a short for something?
Speaker 6: Maybe it should be, but I don't know if maybe
Speaker 6: it isn't.
Speaker 2: So you can name the king, the person's gonna be king.
Speaker 2: It's just like we're gonna call him kit. And then
Speaker 2: the other brother gets to be.
Speaker 3: Mad King Kit.
Speaker 5: That King Kit Wow, based on some of the other
Speaker 5: characters' names in this book, Like I feel like there's
Speaker 5: a Braxton.
Speaker 3: I think there's a Blair yeah over the place. When
Speaker 3: is this book set? I don't know.
Speaker 6: Can't talk.
Speaker 5: I mean two thousand and eight in Christian Girl Autumn,
Speaker 5: I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't know all right this book. Let me give
Speaker 3: you some background on the book before we dive in.
Speaker 3: This is a New York Times bestseller. It was on
Speaker 3: the list for at least nineteen weeks after publication when
Speaker 3: it came out in twenty twenty three, and was self
Speaker 3: published actually before that, before it was acquired by Simon
Speaker 3: and Schuster. But this book is the first debut novel
Speaker 3: of the author, Lauren Roberts, who is a little mysterious
Speaker 3: even though she's all over online. She's from Michigan. I
Speaker 3: don't know where she went to college, but she dropped out.
Speaker 1: So didn't have many nice things to say about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she was like eighteen and she started this, and
Speaker 3: she said she was juggling job a job. She was
Speaker 3: scrubbing toilets at a cleaning company. But then I also
Speaker 3: heard her say that she was working at a library
Speaker 3: in a separate interview. So I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 3: what she was doing, but she wasn't doing it for
Speaker 3: very long because you know, she self published right when
Speaker 3: she turned nineteen, and then like a few months later
Speaker 3: it got it was doing well enough to get picked
Speaker 3: up by Simon and Schuster.
Speaker 6: So I have you guys googled a picture of her?
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I've seen. I've seen her.
Speaker 6: She's very hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's she's maybe twenty three now, she's a
Speaker 3: hot young lady.
Speaker 5: She's I just imagined someone more bookish for such a
Speaker 5: long book.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I have to say though, because I did listen
Speaker 3: to some interviews and watch some YouTube interviews with her,
Speaker 3: it is hard for me. I was realizing, like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is me very much so feeling like a millennial
Speaker 3: right now because I'm having a lot of trouble listening
Speaker 3: to her talk. Interesting, she sounds she's so whatever generation is,
Speaker 3: what is it? Whatever? I don't know where are we
Speaker 3: I am en Z? Are she's gen Z right year old?
Speaker 6: I think so, I think gen Z.
Speaker 3: But it's then the one belows she's not a Genalphia.
Speaker 6: She's gen Z, but she like our genuine children.
Speaker 3: Those are genuine children.
Speaker 2: A child for me, she apparently to Sarah sounds like
Speaker 2: a genuine child.
Speaker 3: So we don't really know, do we know? She's into knitting,
Speaker 3: laser tag hammocking word searchers, and coloring.
Speaker 1: Oh god, she's a child.
Speaker 3: She's very active on Instagram and TikTok, and that's she
Speaker 3: was always sharing, writing updates and engaging with readers. And
Speaker 3: I think that's really how she was able to build
Speaker 3: such like a fandom and momentum, Like she really used TikTok.
Speaker 3: She also is a cat named Mango, and she got
Speaker 3: the tattoo up to forget Me not Flower on the
Speaker 3: chapter pages.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I know about that named Mango.
Speaker 1: Serna used to have a.
Speaker 6: Listener off the pod.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought that might be a listener. I mean,
Speaker 3: is the cat okay? Sure? Anyway, so she you If
Speaker 3: you ask her how did she love published, She's like,
Speaker 3: I don't know. I googled it and then I just
Speaker 3: did it and it worked out for her. She won
Speaker 3: Barnes and Noble Ya Award in twenty twenty three. This
Speaker 3: got huge on book talk. There are three books. There's
Speaker 3: Reckless Book two, Fearless Book three. And then she also
Speaker 3: wrote a bunch of novellas around it that are from
Speaker 3: point of views that you're supposed to like read them alongside. Apparently,
Speaker 3: so like Powerful came out in twenty twenty four, and
Speaker 3: that is read alongside like a novella, a read alongside.
Speaker 1: Notes to a book, but it's a whole different book.
Speaker 3: Apparently. It's also the Powerful is Adina the Homeless Friends?
Speaker 3: Else to sew.
Speaker 6: Just a character then didn't cadell Dezi, So.
Speaker 3: Maybe she is more interested. Maybe it helped because it
Speaker 3: was like what was going on with that character anyway.
Speaker 3: According to the publisher Press Reliefs, the series has sold
Speaker 3: over five point five copies globally across all formats, five
Speaker 3: point five million million. And uh, there is an adaptation
Speaker 3: she is for work? Is that Amazon? We'll see what happens.
Speaker 6: Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah from Daphne Ferrero is.
Speaker 6: Apparently cast as Malachi.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I assume a fifty year old man because that's the
Speaker 2: voice of that character. That's how that character is written.
Speaker 2: And I'm honestly my one takeaway was I was like,
Speaker 2: there's no way a young person wrote this because of
Speaker 2: the way this supposedly nineteen year old boy talks.
Speaker 3: I was like, I think he's like a little older
Speaker 3: than that, but like twenty three, maybe I feel he was.
Speaker 3: He did make Christian Gray vibes like old man. I
Speaker 3: mean the amount he was just very poetic. It didn't
Speaker 3: make sense. Gray is not old old, but you know, yeah,
Speaker 3: he was like twenty nine. Yeah, it didn't make sense. No,
Speaker 3: none of the characters made sense with like the way
Speaker 3: they spoke versus their background. It never matched or made
Speaker 3: any sense, and you just eventually had to roll with it.
Speaker 3: If you were going to make it through this story,
Speaker 3: you're gonna make it. You just had to be like,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm I You know, it doesn't have
Speaker 3: to make sense. But yeah. The main character Peyden Gray,
Speaker 3: she is an ordinary. Her dad died when she was thirteen.
Speaker 3: He was killed by the king again really still very
Speaker 3: funny to me that he was a healer and secretly
Speaker 3: the leader of the rebellion, although she didn't know about it,
Speaker 3: doesn't find this out till later, Mom, who gives a fuck?
Speaker 3: But her dad knew she was born without any powers
Speaker 3: and knew that that would be bad, like she would
Speaker 3: be kicked out of the Kingdom. So she taught her
Speaker 3: to fight and then also pretend to be a psychic,
Speaker 3: which is literally just like looking at your hands and
Speaker 3: being like, oh, there's there used to be a ring
Speaker 3: on your hand, and then so she could be like
Speaker 3: you you were in a relationship that broke up, and
Speaker 3: then they're like, oh my god, it's like, oh dumb
Speaker 3: shit like that.
Speaker 2: The way she was a psychic was I mean, this
Speaker 2: is how people do cold readings to audiences, right, It's
Speaker 2: the way true he did.
Speaker 1: It was so lucky.
Speaker 2: She'd be like the man standing in front of me.
Speaker 2: I stared at him. I noticed a ring box in
Speaker 2: his front pocket and his right knee was covered in dirt,
Speaker 2: and soot I knew he must have just proposed. It
Speaker 2: was like, yeah, it was always the most like obvious stuff.
Speaker 2: It was like the man was wearing a party hat
Speaker 2: and his his shirt had a pin on it that
Speaker 2: said lordie, lordie, look who's forty?
Speaker 3: If he sings.
Speaker 2: Together, I since a birthday, I said, yes, he screams mine.
Speaker 3: It was so stupid. It was like a little like
Speaker 3: parlor trick she did, and that it was. People just
Speaker 3: fell for it, even the person who should have been like,
Speaker 3: this is obviously bullshit.
Speaker 1: Who's never to root these people out and kill them?
Speaker 5: And that's ki eric Ka Yeah okay, but hear me out.
Speaker 5: The power of a hot person is so real.
Speaker 1: It is real, so true.
Speaker 5: You don't recognize if they're stupid, You don't recognize if
Speaker 5: they're because it.
Speaker 3: Doesn't matter because they are they're just so hot. We
Speaker 3: did learn, We do learn that she's hot because like,
Speaker 3: even though she's like, like you know, stealing to survive,
Speaker 3: she's like, oh my god, wait, I have to find it.
Speaker 3: I have to find I say, I saved it. Describe
Speaker 3: what she looks like. She's got silver hair, which is
Speaker 3: also likes a lot of she's supposed to be pickpocket
Speaker 3: who doesn't stand out from the crowd, but she used
Speaker 3: silver hair. I'm confused. I think sure.
Speaker 2: Is the message of this book that as long as
Speaker 2: you're hot, you can never be ordinary?
Speaker 5: Is that, like, yes, okay, let's go sweet on the outside.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just find your hotness on the outside and you'll
Speaker 2: be okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay here, wait, okay, So this is when they
Speaker 3: first meet, So this is okay, this is kai Okay. Instinctively,
Speaker 3: I reach out to study the individual before they fall
Speaker 3: over from the impact my arms wrapping around their waist.
Speaker 3: Her waist, the body I'm holding is undoubtedly belongs to
Speaker 3: a female, though the massive, long silver hair brushing against
Speaker 3: my arms is proof enough. She's small but strong, leaner
Speaker 3: than most of the scrawny girls from the slums. I
Speaker 3: can feel it in the curve of her waist where
Speaker 3: my hand fits comfortably, though it's evidence that malnourishment stripped
Speaker 3: her of most of the muscles she evidently once had. Sorry,
Speaker 3: that's that's very much for so much six seconds on
Speaker 3: her waist, He's like she's been eating. She's slender though,
Speaker 3: like she's somehow like skinnier than the other girls. But
Speaker 3: it's like less malnourished, less right.
Speaker 2: I don't know, But it's because she's skinny but still
Speaker 2: really muscular. You can tell it's the muscle wasting away,
Speaker 2: not fat wasting away.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thank god, I'm.
Speaker 2: So tired of the female protagonist that the male needs
Speaker 2: to feed because otherwise she's going to starve to death.
Speaker 3: In here, it's yeah, she's got to get fed, and
Speaker 3: it's like it's what I don't like anyway, He's kinda
Speaker 3: make my girl eat.
Speaker 2: Than she even was at the beginning, and remember her,
Speaker 2: I can tell she had a female waist and that
Speaker 2: she was very scrawny, scrawny so thin.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Wait, we also didn't talk about there
Speaker 3: is there is like a tiny amount of background. There's
Speaker 3: she briefly mentions, sorry, the author briefly mentions that, like
Speaker 3: how this came to be, even though like it doesn't matter,
Speaker 3: but she's like everyone used to be ordinary, but then
Speaker 3: there was a plague, and then from the plague, some
Speaker 3: people got superpowers, and then they decided that the people
Speaker 3: who didn't have superpowers were diseased and needed to be
Speaker 3: like it. It's just like the silliest And also I
Speaker 3: was like somebody was writing this during the pandemic and
Speaker 3: it shows.
Speaker 1: I think it was described in one page.
Speaker 3: All yeah, that background, by the way, it was such
Speaker 3: nonsense and like never everything every explanation of like what's
Speaker 3: going on in this book, fantasy wise, is like nonsensical.
Speaker 3: It's just like not quite there.
Speaker 2: So if you write a romance to see, by the way,
Speaker 2: you need to have a really fun phrase that instead
Speaker 2: of saying like oh damn are oh god, you have
Speaker 2: to come up with some like oh, cauldron, oh gods.
Speaker 1: And in this one it's oh plagues.
Speaker 3: Yeah they say it, so, oh.
Speaker 2: My plague, thank the plague. And that's really cool and
Speaker 2: really inventive. Yeah, and that really makes sure it's in
Speaker 2: your book. So find your fun word that substitutes for god.
Speaker 1: And put it in your book.
Speaker 3: So we're talking plagues, and so maybe you're thinking, oh plagues.
Speaker 3: This is like something that takes an all history of
Speaker 3: stuff that takes place back in like the fifteen hundred.
Speaker 3: I don't know, you're just like went Middle Ages. No,
Speaker 3: it's not, because electricity is mentioned several times. There's even
Speaker 3: a power that uses the electricity, and she talks about
Speaker 3: the slums not having as much electricity as the other
Speaker 3: parts of the town. So it's like, what the fuck
Speaker 3: is guy, I don't know. There's some watches too, people
Speaker 3: have watches. I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 5: It's dystopian but not. Actually, it's just like we've moved
Speaker 5: away from civilized society.
Speaker 3: There's no there's no like this is a certain time
Speaker 3: where it's the future. It's it doesn't make any sense,
Speaker 3: but it is. Really. It did really crack me up that,
Speaker 3: like most and I would I want to talk about
Speaker 3: this for like a long time. How like some of
Speaker 3: the powers were just like technology, Like one of the
Speaker 3: powers is just amplifier, Yes, just like microphone, So somebody
Speaker 3: has the power of microphone.
Speaker 2: You imagine if you got everyone around you start getting
Speaker 2: powers and they were flying and turning invisible and they
Speaker 2: could become fire, and yours was not like even just
Speaker 2: for you to be a microphone, but it's like you
Speaker 2: get to be a physical microphone.
Speaker 3: You could touch someone else and make them louder. Great. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just like and then there was one where
Speaker 3: they they were just cameras. They just like we're cameras.
Speaker 3: It's like we're cameras not invented yet, what's going on? Like,
Speaker 3: I don't, I just can't. Anyway, I want to play
Speaker 3: a game later where we imagine some other things she
Speaker 3: could have lied about having.
Speaker 1: But okay, as opposed to lying about being a psychic,
Speaker 1: which was yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but let's I guess we can move forward a
Speaker 3: little bit with what the fuck's in this book? We've
Speaker 3: done Peyton Gray, Yeah, okay, she's just like sleeping on
Speaker 3: the cobblestones with her friend a Dina, and she's like
Speaker 3: stealing thread because she loves to sew.
Speaker 1: But remember she's on the cobblestones. But she's like, not
Speaker 1: that dirty.
Speaker 2: She doesn't like she's not you know's We don't.
Speaker 1: Know, she's not stinky, she's just.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So something happens where Prince Kai he is the enforcer, aka,
Speaker 3: he's like the executioner. I guess, which is a weird
Speaker 3: thing to make your prince be. But sure, we'll stick
Speaker 3: with it. We'll go along with it.
Speaker 5: Can I ask a question about this? Because and this
Speaker 5: could be the three point five time speed, but the
Speaker 5: way it's described is the King Kai and Kit's father
Speaker 5: has been training Ki to be an an enforcer, and
Speaker 5: it's like that's his destiny, his lineage, that's what he'll be.
Speaker 5: But the king himself has been doing that training. And
Speaker 5: then the king himself is also training Kit to be
Speaker 5: the king, Like is there no current enforcer?
Speaker 3: Not that we know, and it's wild, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 3: We're like, why how do we know that old? No
Speaker 3: one has been one exactly. No, that's not clear. We
Speaker 3: don't know about that. I think we barely know the
Speaker 3: king has a name, so he's just always the king.
Speaker 3: I think there's a.
Speaker 5: Lot of stuff like this that also, it's so many
Speaker 5: that's like the king the like kingly duties they think of.
Speaker 6: Is like he teaches Kit.
Speaker 5: To do a lot of paperwork, I as much.
Speaker 3: Even though he can or some ship anyway, So yeah,
Speaker 3: Kit or Kai, he's got a whole back story about
Speaker 3: being tortured by his dad. But anyway, we see him
Speaker 3: and he's supposed to be being the enforcer and like
Speaker 3: making this ordinary child, killing this ordinary child, but he's
Speaker 3: like such a big heart and instead he sends he
Speaker 3: banishes them. And then that's why he's in this like
Speaker 3: what's not the slums? What do we call it?
Speaker 1: The sand lands?
Speaker 3: Something stupid? Where she where the poor people live? Uh
Speaker 3: he faction live there. Yeah, she steals from him and
Speaker 3: that's hot. That's like what I read those little time
Speaker 3: little moment from that. But then some people try to
Speaker 3: also rob Kai and they are baddies. But there's also
Speaker 3: this silencer guy who's like a super scary power because
Speaker 3: it makes your powers, it makes you become powerless. And
Speaker 3: so Kai can't fight back because even though it seems like,
Speaker 3: well why can't he just like physically fight back, but
Speaker 3: you know it doesn't matter. It gives him a bad
Speaker 3: headache or something, and then we see Peyton. She's like
Speaker 3: some she sees it happening, and she decides that the
Speaker 3: silencer looks like the king or the person who killed
Speaker 3: her dad. And then she's like, I'm saving my daddy symbolically,
Speaker 3: and she like fights the silencer and saves Prince Kai,
Speaker 3: and that's like the big moment she gets for this whole, Like,
Speaker 3: oh this, she keeps going through this like in the book,
Speaker 3: she's always like seeing Kit, who's the older prince that's
Speaker 3: gonna be king. He's always like seeing the killer in
Speaker 3: his eyes or like that, and it's like crazy because
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess we'll reveal at the end the twist.
Speaker 3: It just doesn't make any sense. It doesn't make any sense.
Speaker 5: That in particular makes the twist make really no sense.
Speaker 3: It makes no sense.
Speaker 5: Can I also say something about Kit, which is when
Speaker 5: I was listening on three point five time Speed, there
Speaker 5: is a moment that Kit and Peyden's share together where
Speaker 5: they're in a garden. Yeah, there's something like a flower
Speaker 5: crown or I don't know. He's like, it looks good
Speaker 5: on you, and she's like, it looks better on you?
Speaker 5: And I thought oh cute. The future king is gay.
Speaker 5: And I spent a lot of the book thinking that
Speaker 5: Kit was gay and that he was like asking her
Speaker 5: to the dance and stuff, maybe as a beard or
Speaker 5: maybe because he.
Speaker 6: Knew that she liked Hi and so like that sister
Speaker 6: at law.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it took me a really long time to
Speaker 5: like reground myself and oh, this is maybe a love triangle, this.
Speaker 3: Is fun well, and it was it. I mean, that's
Speaker 3: another question. It's funny you say that though, because I
Speaker 3: also up top believed that Peyden was with aDNA and
Speaker 3: that was she was fully a lesbian. I just though
Speaker 3: at first the way they were, I don't know, I
Speaker 3: just I really didn't. I was like, oh, that's gonna
Speaker 3: be fun because you don't they're gonna be all these
Speaker 3: guys and you don't expect that. But no, no, that
Speaker 3: wasn't it at all.
Speaker 2: But anyway, just to get the plot going, or I
Speaker 2: had a confusion too, I just want to oay, okay,
Speaker 2: share a share chack.
Speaker 1: I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't think Peyden was with a Dina. But she
Speaker 2: ends a lot of her sentences by saying, isn't that right?
Speaker 2: A like a green dress?
Speaker 1: A and.
Speaker 2: That's her nickname for A. Dina is just to call
Speaker 2: her A. But I thought she was Canadian and like
Speaker 2: she's a super like old Canadian man, sort of like
Speaker 2: backwoodsy and it really changed my view of her in
Speaker 2: the book for.
Speaker 1: A long absolutely, Yeah, does that make any sense? A
Speaker 1: and I would urriage future authors. A is not a
Speaker 1: good nickname.
Speaker 3: There's too much.
Speaker 8: If you're listening to the audiobook, some readers are going
Speaker 8: to go Canada.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's very funny, Santa.
Speaker 3: Okay. So the other the big plot, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: now I'm the Purge. The Purge Trials. What the fuck
Speaker 3: are they called?
Speaker 5: Now?
Speaker 3: I can't the per They're these these trials that are
Speaker 3: introduced and barely explained, and they are obviously.
Speaker 1: That it's the Hunger Games.
Speaker 3: It's the Hunger Games, but like with less explanation. And
Speaker 3: also it's funny because like the main character seems to
Speaker 3: not understand what they are or what or I've heard
Speaker 3: of them before, which seems weird for something that like
Speaker 3: should seems like it happens a lot, but.
Speaker 5: Sure it's it's not supposed to ever have any ordinaries
Speaker 5: in it, right, It is just the elites that compete
Speaker 5: in it, right, which is but.
Speaker 3: Like it's not all elite elites. Sometimes it's like I
Speaker 3: guess they're still technical elites, but it's like the blame.
Speaker 5: Elites are there too, Like the microphones, Yeah, the microphones
Speaker 5: are there.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm like confused, like gals. And the
Speaker 3: other thing is that like I feel like for Hunger Games,
Speaker 3: you knew, like only you know, there's only one winner,
Speaker 3: like that's the big deal. You never fucking understand what
Speaker 3: the like how many die?
Speaker 5: Because I was like, I, you know, I had mapped
Speaker 5: it onto the Hunger Games, and they didn't seem to
Speaker 5: ever like be concerned that maybe they wouldn't get to
Speaker 5: live together at the end.
Speaker 6: But I was like, only one of you is coming
Speaker 6: out a lot.
Speaker 3: It seems like nobody needed to die, honestly.
Speaker 2: But then also Payden's when she starts, she announces to
Speaker 2: the whole kingdom. She's like, they're like, what's your what
Speaker 2: are you gonna do in the purge? And she's like,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna survive And there's like a hush silence, and
Speaker 2: everyone's like shocked that she would say something like that.
Speaker 2: So it is like it's eluded that she's not gonna survive.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's very it's it's like they set she
Speaker 3: sets up stakes, but then they don't. But honestly, you
Speaker 3: don't feel them at all, because what you get is
Speaker 3: there's a bunch of balls and it seems way more
Speaker 3: concerned about what she's gonna wear to.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, I forgot actual lot this book was like
Speaker 5: there's that whole beginning part where there's like the Caesar
Speaker 5: Flickerman character, Yeah exactly who is like, you know, Stanley
Speaker 5: Tucci in The Hunger Games and is like interviewing her,
Speaker 5: and then there's a little question where she charms the
Speaker 5: audience by poking fun at the king or not the King,
Speaker 5: the prince, and like all of that kind of goes away,
Speaker 5: like needing the support of the crowd.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't. That doesn't affect the games at all,
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't the Hunger Games. There's nothing like thought out.
Speaker 3: There's just like it's just basically the only reference later
Speaker 3: is like this is where people think. It's like people
Speaker 3: are it's not even saying they're betting. It's just like
Speaker 3: this is where people think you are in the rankings.
Speaker 3: The King says it to her as though it's like
Speaker 3: you'll never get higher than that, but it's like, who cares,
Speaker 3: It's just what people are thinking. It doesn't mean anything.
Speaker 3: I don't understand. It was.
Speaker 2: It felt like someone asked, and I know this was
Speaker 2: before this is pre chat GPT, but it felt like
Speaker 2: someone asked chat GPT, like give me just a quick
Speaker 2: like one page on what the Hunger Games is, and
Speaker 2: then like that's what this book gets without any understanding
Speaker 2: or any of the fun rules that they had where
Speaker 2: you could send in you know, you could pick a
Speaker 2: champion and you could send supplies. It was unclear if
Speaker 2: the Kingdom was watching these context kids book too. Sometimes
Speaker 2: they were telling me sometimes they were just like private killings.
Speaker 3: Or like it was like it was being recorded but
Speaker 3: it wasn't live, and then they just did the clips
Speaker 3: later and it's like, okay, that's stupid.
Speaker 6: Just like reality TV.
Speaker 2: I mean, would I watch like some sort of sort
Speaker 2: of life and death trials of citizens? I probably would,
Speaker 2: but I would want to see it live.
Speaker 3: Also there at the clip show, there are three trials.
Speaker 3: The first one is camping, the second one is hiking,
Speaker 3: and the third one is amaze. It's so stupid.
Speaker 5: It's like being poor, being poor, amaze, Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, I can't believe I was stupid these trials.
Speaker 2: So there was also this this really pissed me off.
Speaker 2: So there's a big ball at the beginning, like like
Speaker 2: Sorerena and Sarah said, there's just like the thirty chapters
Speaker 2: out of sixty are like before the trials even started,
Speaker 2: just like I'm in the castle now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no one's paying attention to her. She's just there.
Speaker 2: And they have this big ball where all of the
Speaker 2: women that come to the ball make this grand entrance.
Speaker 2: That's their whole thing is like all the men wait
Speaker 2: in the ball and then the women enter one by one,
Speaker 2: and all the women wear green. But you know, Pain
Speaker 2: looks at the rule and there's nothing in the rules
Speaker 2: that says you have to wear green, and so she
Speaker 2: just decides she's gonna wear a silver dress.
Speaker 3: And wow, she has silver hair.
Speaker 2: It's the first time anyone's ever thought to do a
Speaker 2: different color at the ball.
Speaker 3: And like, why would you pick that color that's gonna
Speaker 3: drown you out? You have silver hair, Like, it doesn't true,
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean yes, you don't see me wearing yellow.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I liked that, like all of the other
Speaker 2: None of the other women ever thought that, like it'd
Speaker 2: be fun to stand out and be the one gallon
Speaker 2: a different.
Speaker 3: Color, Like have you heard of a wedding?
Speaker 2: Okay, we know about being the only one in a
Speaker 2: certain color, but we know about it.
Speaker 3: It's funny because her whole premise is that she has
Speaker 3: to hide that she's ordinary, but she like does everything
Speaker 3: to make herself stand out and like draw attention to herself.
Speaker 3: It's wild even just talking the way she talks to
Speaker 3: kind kid, like over and over again, she says something like, yeah, well,
Speaker 3: maybe the kink should be more for his people, and
Speaker 3: then her internal monologue is like, I can't believe I
Speaker 3: just spoke my mind like that. I really need to
Speaker 3: watch what I'm saying. And then they're just like yeah,
Speaker 3: like she just she just constantly like talks out and
Speaker 3: there's no record, like there's nothing, there's something wrong about it,
Speaker 3: and they all like her for it.
Speaker 2: It's just like the like the ordinary aren't so bad.
Speaker 2: Maybe you're standing right in front of one right now,
Speaker 2: you stupid dick.
Speaker 4: Oh peydon, why didn't say that.
Speaker 1: I didn't mean it?
Speaker 3: Oh my god, but we do.
Speaker 5: I like can't believe I like, actually coming into this tonight,
Speaker 5: forgot about this whole prelude.
Speaker 3: It's just so funny because like, honestly, the fantasy part
Speaker 3: of this book is so so very very bad, and
Speaker 3: I and there are some things I enjoyed and we
Speaker 3: can we will get too. It's just like it is
Speaker 3: crazy how nonsensical fans like even just like Jack's one
Speaker 3: of the guys fighting. He has the ability to blink.
Speaker 3: It's called blink, and he can like just move somewhere else,
Speaker 3: and he like doesn't ever use it to go up
Speaker 3: the mountain, like he finds out it's like capture the
Speaker 3: flag or even the maze. It's like you just have
Speaker 3: to get to the center of the maze. Jack should
Speaker 3: be winning all of these he just yeah, gets should
Speaker 3: go there. I mean, like it just I don't know
Speaker 3: there was and the way then.
Speaker 6: Steal everyone's power. Should just be doing that. He could
Speaker 6: do that too, steal the blink.
Speaker 3: Also, she why she's like fighting these people with all
Speaker 3: these powers. I'm sorry, there's a girl who can move
Speaker 3: things with her mind. You're not gonna beat her. I'm sorry,
Speaker 3: it's ridiculous. This story is a ridiculous. You're not beating
Speaker 3: her at a fight. You're so sorry, You're.
Speaker 1: Definitely gonna beat microphone girl.
Speaker 3: You can be microphone girl. But like, also there's there's
Speaker 3: a little unun little brother who also just I don't
Speaker 3: was just for some reason, also randomly in the purge.
Speaker 3: He also like there's never any explanation as to why
Speaker 3: he was chosen. And then he almost dies and kais.
Speaker 6: Like saving guy brother and he's fifteen.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm like, and then he kiss like save
Speaker 3: his life, and but he does, and then like nothing happens,
Speaker 3: Like nothing else happens with this guy.
Speaker 5: I feel like at the top, they make a big
Speaker 5: deal about how this is the first time that a
Speaker 5: prince has ever been in the trials or whatever they're called,
Speaker 5: and I I could be wrong, but I feel like
Speaker 5: they don't make a big deal out of how the
Speaker 5: little brother is also in it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, later.
Speaker 5: Shouldn't shouldn't that count equally and maybe even a little
Speaker 5: more because he's not the future enforcer.
Speaker 6: He's just a weak little child.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's weird. It doesn't like the logic. You're like,
Speaker 3: why did the king do this? Why did the king?
Speaker 3: Why did they pick her? Because it's not random, like
Speaker 3: hunger games. It's like she was chosen by his I
Speaker 3: don't know the I don't know who picks them. I'm
Speaker 3: assuming the king, but don't really know. But just because
Speaker 3: she saved his life. But but again, this is what
Speaker 3: we also need to realize at this point, the king,
Speaker 3: this is again the daughter of a trader the king killed.
Speaker 1: Yea, he knows, like the king was confused.
Speaker 3: And it's not a like I just to figured out
Speaker 3: who you are from the king. The king always.
Speaker 5: Knows and always or did he find out kind of
Speaker 5: in the middle of the trials, which is how I
Speaker 5: read it. I was like, I've for some time, and
Speaker 5: I was like, well, how long is that time?
Speaker 1: I feel this always did the length of the book,
Speaker 1: don't I don't.
Speaker 3: There was never a moment described that like was revealing,
Speaker 3: and so I can only I this is again just
Speaker 3: like plot holes, like what's going on the way the
Speaker 3: king acts is so nonsensical, like even just like why
Speaker 3: is she allowed to wander around and like talk to
Speaker 3: the he clearly doesn't like her and once he'r dead,
Speaker 3: but is like letting her flirt endlessly with his two sons,
Speaker 3: like it doesn't make any sense?
Speaker 6: How much do you really know about her?
Speaker 5: If you think she's like kind of part of the resistance,
Speaker 5: a thing she's literally never heard of. True until you
Speaker 5: let her mingle around your kingdom and people are like.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, my god, we're the resistance.
Speaker 6: You have to get some key off of kit.
Speaker 3: And then she can do all these things super easily.
Speaker 3: Everything she could do is she can do it all
Speaker 3: so easily. Also so funny the resistance. Guess where the
Speaker 3: resistance meets at her house? She had a house whole time.
Speaker 3: It's so funny.
Speaker 1: What but she is living.
Speaker 2: I think she literally describes it as like I live
Speaker 2: in a trash pile. Yeah, she describes her house as
Speaker 2: But then for some reason, there's a house and she
Speaker 2: goes back there one day. She's like, I'm gonna go
Speaker 2: back to my house. I'm gonna just check it out,
Speaker 2: head on back, see if my dad's chair is still there.
Speaker 3: It's like, did her dad. I'm trying to make sense
Speaker 3: of it, Okay, I'm trying to do the legwork that
Speaker 3: Lauren Roberts did not do. And I'm like, perhaps the
Speaker 3: dad left the house to the resistance in and she's
Speaker 3: not in his will. I don't know that's fucked up.
Speaker 1: So she can't make that bad debt before he died, right,
Speaker 1: but what happened?
Speaker 3: Yeah? But like also did they.
Speaker 6: Watch him get murdered?
Speaker 2: Murdered and in the last minute quickly struck her out
Speaker 2: as well? She doesn't get the house. I want her
Speaker 2: to live in a trash pile.
Speaker 3: I've been training her all her life to be a pickpocket,
Speaker 3: and now this is the chance. I don't know, it's very.
Speaker 2: Very your father, you might have to live in a
Speaker 2: trash pile.
Speaker 5: I think she didn't know that her dad was like
Speaker 5: a big deal part of the resistance.
Speaker 3: No, she doesn't know that either.
Speaker 5: Why did she think the king himself would have murdered
Speaker 5: just some random dad?
Speaker 3: Good question. Well, doesn't seem like she didn't seem to
Speaker 3: think about that. She didn't really, And this is why,
Speaker 3: I mean, this is the same for all the characters.
Speaker 3: The characters don't really think at all, like not at all,
Speaker 3: not even the leaders of the resistance. They're not like, oh,
Speaker 3: maybe this plan. Our plan is to basically like sneak
Speaker 3: up so we can show up at the third trial
Speaker 3: and like surprise everyone, and then we're just gonna be like,
Speaker 3: please be nice. To us, we're ordinaries, Like what was
Speaker 3: their plan? There wasn't a plan. No, no one's thinking
Speaker 3: in this book and it's insane. Even the King is like,
Speaker 3: I don't know the fuck he's doing.
Speaker 1: You don't we know that?
Speaker 5: Yeah, he's also like the second key that the Resistance
Speaker 5: needs her to like find to get from Kit. It's
Speaker 5: like Kit just Sue Spontee is like, yeah, there's this
Speaker 5: really important key that I hide on my person and
Speaker 5: it's like, why would you tell a basic stranger that
Speaker 5: gigantic security detail.
Speaker 3: He's horny for her, and that's so this gets back
Speaker 3: to this this three this love triangle, which is unfortunately
Speaker 3: when this was introduced, I was like, oh, I see
Speaker 3: potential like brother brother, Oh you know, there's the hot one,
Speaker 3: but like he's the king, so it's gonna like, look,
Speaker 3: he's going to have to start. I there was, but
Speaker 3: there really wasn't anything like she's never liked Kit like
Speaker 3: it would have been.
Speaker 10: If she probably did, probably but if she was actually
Speaker 10: but instead she just shamelessly flirts for him throughout the
Speaker 10: book and then at one point they're like, also, your
Speaker 10: mission is to flirt with him, and she's like easy
Speaker 10: because she's been doing it for no reason, Like it's.
Speaker 5: Just a moment of conflict where it's like, I haven't
Speaker 5: been doing this the whole book. It will be weird
Speaker 5: and it will be a challenge I need to undertake.
Speaker 3: No, she just it's just the way she is. She's
Speaker 3: just like, this is how she talks to me. She's
Speaker 3: just naturally flirty. And yeah, I guess that's okay. So
Speaker 3: there's that set up, and then we have this like
Speaker 3: enemies to lovers thing, I guess, But it's like she
Speaker 3: doesn't seem to really see herself as an enemy with Kai,
Speaker 3: do you know what I mean. It's like we're both
Speaker 3: doing these purge trials, but we immediately team up immediately
Speaker 3: on each other's side, like I don't I mean other
Speaker 3: it's more of like, uh, not like an impossible romance
Speaker 3: because it's like, oh, he's they can't really be together
Speaker 3: because he's royalty and she's not. It's not like enemies,
Speaker 3: I mean until the end, I guess it's like lovers
Speaker 3: or flirters. Two enemies is maybe what it feels like
Speaker 3: the trope. Actually, I doubt doubt they're actual enemies.
Speaker 5: I think in the universe, right there's like a there
Speaker 5: should be a montague and capulate situation to them, except
Speaker 5: that Kai has no idea who she actually is, and
Speaker 5: neither does she.
Speaker 2: Right, so she doesn't know her dad is the leader
Speaker 2: of the resistance exactly right.
Speaker 6: It's like, where is the conflict?
Speaker 3: Do you are?
Speaker 1: Just?
Speaker 3: But yeah, it seems fine. I actually the I the
Speaker 3: thing I know. It's why A but a little amount
Speaker 3: of hurting and touching they did with each other. These
Speaker 3: are eighteen year old and twenty something, Like, there's no
Speaker 3: way these people haven't fucked, like, aren't fucking kissing making
Speaker 3: out at the very least. That was the most ridiculous
Speaker 3: part of it to me, that it was like the
Speaker 3: amount you guys are like hands all over each other,
Speaker 3: making up reasons, laying on top of each other at
Speaker 3: one and you're telling me you're not like and there
Speaker 3: wasn't ever a reason, Like it wasn't like Kai was like,
Speaker 3: I must keep myself pure as the enforcer, or she
Speaker 3: was like virgins are really looked down upon, and if
Speaker 3: you're not a virgin, you can't Like there was never
Speaker 3: any setup as to why they couldn't just fucking hook up,
Speaker 3: And it bothered me.
Speaker 6: So they didn't kiss right like there was no no.
Speaker 3: There was like a peck, maybe there was nothing nothing.
Speaker 5: There was that moment where he chased her out of
Speaker 5: the ball and the rain and he held his jacket
Speaker 5: over his head to keep her dry, and she was like,
Speaker 5: I'm already wet, yeah.
Speaker 4: And he's like, I know, and then his lips quivered
Speaker 4: with a smile and his dimpy's dimppy simpled and her
Speaker 4: eyes traveled to his mouth.
Speaker 2: I was also having so much fun reading this and
Speaker 2: imagining like fifteen to seventeen year old kids taking this
Speaker 2: as their template for like how to talk to people,
Speaker 2: like and how to flirt, like how to talk to
Speaker 2: girls because.
Speaker 3: A lot of Naggine.
Speaker 1: There's this one line where she gets hurt and kus
Speaker 1: like who did this to you?
Speaker 2: And of course, because we're trying to play the enemy's
Speaker 2: celeveris trope, she's like, why do you care? And he
Speaker 2: goes because I don't like my toys to be played with.
Speaker 6: Yes, I was dying.
Speaker 2: It's ridiculous sixteen year old trying to flirt and being
Speaker 2: like I don't like my toys. I want young people
Speaker 2: to use this as their template.
Speaker 3: It just take us to whatever time. This is Oh
Speaker 3: my god, the constant use of the word darling. It
Speaker 3: was like way too much. Oh, and they like knife
Speaker 3: at your throat, I'm gonna kill you. And they have this.
Speaker 2: Refrain too that you could tell the author thinks is
Speaker 2: like so impactful. Which is the truth then and then
Speaker 2: they would respond the truth always. I think that came
Speaker 2: up three or four times.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah. And then there's the like funny so many
Speaker 3: funny to the like dancing where he's like, I have
Speaker 3: to teach you how to dance because you have to
Speaker 3: dance with my brother, and then they're like in the
Speaker 3: middle of the night together dancing. I'm like, what is this.
Speaker 3: There are no rules. I don't want to get on here.
Speaker 3: I thought this character was gay. See all the pieces
Speaker 3: are lighting up.
Speaker 1: It's like, I have to teach you to.
Speaker 3: Will be pissed if you can't dance.
Speaker 6: He yeah, he's like he's very particular.
Speaker 1: He's good.
Speaker 3: He did four years of ballroom, like.
Speaker 1: He's gonna something.
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally, you're right. He never made like a huge
Speaker 3: move on her. He just like there were like two
Speaker 3: conversations maybe between Kit and Kai, who also kind of
Speaker 3: seemed gay together. Now that you say that like they
Speaker 3: were always like they kept being shown. I don't know,
Speaker 3: like they had more Yeah, they had more kind of
Speaker 3: chemistry than Kitten I.
Speaker 5: I did not pick up on the brotherly I think.
Speaker 3: But they also don't talk like there's like some vague
Speaker 3: where She's like, you know, Kid's like, oh, she's interesting,
Speaker 3: I want to know more, and Kuy's like yeah, and
Speaker 3: then they don't like neither of them talk about really
Speaker 3: how they're feeling.
Speaker 5: I don't know, there's just boy stuff, you know, I
Speaker 5: guess it is.
Speaker 3: I guess it's total boy stuff. Kai's total boy stuff
Speaker 3: because he's like, uh, I just like kill people. My
Speaker 3: daddy tells me too, And I never like think about
Speaker 3: it too much, like I.
Speaker 6: Don't know, like he just I'm just this is the
Speaker 6: way it is, and.
Speaker 5: La la la, like he it's so funny because he
Speaker 5: does not have a like a single complex thought.
Speaker 3: No, he literally.
Speaker 6: Except in his mind poetry for her.
Speaker 5: Sure, but like the things he says out loud to
Speaker 5: himself are not things that one says to themselves, Like
Speaker 5: I don't sit there in my mind and think, Sabrina,
Speaker 5: you were raised to be this job and you don't
Speaker 5: care about anything other than this job, because that is
Speaker 5: how you were raised. Like, no, you have complex thoughts
Speaker 5: about who you are in your life, and you aren't
Speaker 5: also aren't constantly thinking about it.
Speaker 2: I I want to ask you guys, how much of
Speaker 2: your day, as people is spent going like, why.
Speaker 1: The fuck did I just do that? I something such
Speaker 1: an idiot, I'm so embarrassed.
Speaker 3: Never that's also the funny thing to be that. I'm like,
Speaker 3: if she's a character who like speaks her mind a lot,
Speaker 3: she's probably most of the time just gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, like not going to constantly be like
Speaker 3: because if she's anxious about her.
Speaker 2: I was asking, for real, how often do you guys
Speaker 2: think that? Because I think that all day long? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: this is what I mean.
Speaker 1: I mean if I feel like I never think that.
Speaker 5: I don't never think it. It is rare that I
Speaker 5: think it. But once I do, I think about that
Speaker 5: thing for a week.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I choose not to because I will spiral.
Speaker 3: I kind of a Sabrina here. I will spiral. And
Speaker 3: I have realized that it doesn't doesn't not helpful to
Speaker 3: me to do that.
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to figure out what other people's in
Speaker 2: her monologues are I guess Serena got me thinking that, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't think about my job what I
Speaker 2: was raised to do, but I guess I do think
Speaker 2: often about like that.
Speaker 1: It's such a stupid thing to say.
Speaker 3: Fix and fixes, but she doesn't fix it.
Speaker 2: She just is like, yeah, whoopsies, she goes whoops, and
Speaker 2: then she flashes her silver hair and she cinches her
Speaker 2: little waist.
Speaker 3: Yeah it's a little anemic waist, but strong but still yeah,
Speaker 3: she's still very strong and like feisty. Okay, here, I
Speaker 3: want to read a little quote. This is obviously Kai
Speaker 3: talking about our girl. Everything beautiful, everything bold, everything breathtaking.
Speaker 3: This is what I feel in her gaze. That and terrified,
Speaker 3: terrified of what she's doing to me. She is a vision,
Speaker 3: a nightmare, a dream, a grim reaper clad in black,
Speaker 3: come to steal my soul and my heart. I've never
Speaker 3: seen something so beautiful, so bold, so blatantly wrong for me.
Speaker 3: She is a devil, she is a deity. She is
Speaker 3: a man's downfall and human form. She is my downfall.
Speaker 3: Then her eyes drift to Kit, the connection snaps, and
Speaker 3: I'm left feeling empty. Besides the jealousy growing beside me.
Speaker 3: Why did I ever think I could have her? Ever
Speaker 3: think she would have me? Because beests don't get the beauty.
Speaker 6: Oh my god, I crack.
Speaker 3: Don't you feel like she wrote that like really early,
Speaker 3: Like it doesn't really fit, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: I'm like, bees still get the beauty. He never thinks that.
Speaker 3: He's never like I'm not hot.
Speaker 1: He All he thinks about is how hot he is
Speaker 1: and says.
Speaker 3: It, Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. And also, there
Speaker 3: was never really concerned that kit was going to win her,
Speaker 3: Like that would have been interesting, but that was never
Speaker 3: really there.
Speaker 5: Dweem brother who does paperwork, absolutely not.
Speaker 1: The slame future king.
Speaker 3: This man is trying to like speak in like thinking
Speaker 3: so poetically. I guess it's so, but it's also like cheesy. Sorry,
Speaker 3: I gotta read one more Kai thing. I never thought
Speaker 3: about what my favorite color was. It never seemed important.
Speaker 3: Oh my god. Sorry. They asked each other their favorite colors,
Speaker 3: and neither of them had a favorite color. So stupid. Okay,
Speaker 3: she goes, he goes. Not until I looked into a
Speaker 3: pair of ocean blue eyes and realized that perhaps drowning
Speaker 3: was a beautiful thing. Not until I looked into a
Speaker 3: pair of fiery blue eyes and realized that perhaps burning
Speaker 3: was a painless thing. Not until I looked into a
Speaker 3: pair of sky blue eyes and realized that perhaps falling
Speaker 3: was a peaceful thing. I've never thought about what my
Speaker 3: favorite color was before, because I hadn't seen one that
Speaker 3: was worthy of the title until now blue. I say,
Speaker 3: my voice, low, So what color are her eyes?
Speaker 1: Are they sky blue or are they fire blue?
Speaker 3: Yeah? These are different color blues. Ocean blue, that's kind
Speaker 3: of a greeny blue, I would say, I don't know what. Yeah,
Speaker 3: we're just so fucking stupid, just the way he thinks
Speaker 3: and talks like. I guess, you know what, maybe it
Speaker 3: was nice. I actually don't know if I liked being
Speaker 3: in his brain, because I guess it just like he
Speaker 3: was obsessed with her full throttle the whole time, and
Speaker 3: I would have liked to, like, not know that.
Speaker 5: I think they're okay, and if we can like a
Speaker 5: little bit toward the end too, I think being in
Speaker 5: his brain, I can't decide. I think like there was
Speaker 5: some fun of it, But there is a thing that,
Speaker 5: like the King says at the end, which could have
Speaker 5: been a really dramatic moment, but wasn't because we were
Speaker 5: in Kai's mind the whole time, and basically it's like,
Speaker 5: there's this last trial, and you, well, the last trial
Speaker 5: is actually almost irrelevant to this. But at some point
Speaker 5: the king and she are head to head and the
Speaker 5: King is basically like, hey, bitch, I'm gonna kill Where where.
Speaker 3: Are the people who fight for him? Where are they?
Speaker 3: I don't know?
Speaker 6: But then he was like, jokes on you.
Speaker 5: The whole point has been for Kai to kill you,
Speaker 5: and he likes to play with his prey. And I
Speaker 5: was just like, no, that's not what Kai is. Like,
Speaker 5: we would know if Kai was angling to kill her
Speaker 5: right now.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 5: Incidentally, the book does shift into that being where it goes,
Speaker 5: but it's like that wasn't a preexisting motivation.
Speaker 3: Of Ky, right, and I nor do I actually believe
Speaker 3: it at the end. But yeah, So she fights the
Speaker 3: king who has powers, and somehow beats him using her
Speaker 3: I don't even actually sheer strength. I don't even know
Speaker 3: how she does. It doesn't just because she's so strong
Speaker 3: and she trips him.
Speaker 1: I don't fu uses her of hot, that's all.
Speaker 3: And then we find I guess At some point before
Speaker 3: he dies, the King reveals that Kai is actually the
Speaker 3: one who killed her dad, and she's even though we've
Speaker 3: heard her say a bunch of times it was definitely
Speaker 3: the king. Now she has to backtrack and be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I don't know why I thought that.
Speaker 5: Also, it's like I let them confused how young does
Speaker 5: the king look and or how old does Kyle?
Speaker 3: Also it doesn't make sense because he keeps talking about
Speaker 3: how similar Kit looks to the king, and so it's
Speaker 3: also like, Okay, wait, what's happening?
Speaker 1: But now you also do they all look the same?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: And it was going on first killed, so it was
Speaker 5: like several years ago, like he he must have actually
Speaker 5: been a child, and you thought that was a full
Speaker 5: blown king, Yeah.
Speaker 3: Because she was thirteen I think at the time. Also
Speaker 3: like but also Ki, Ki, You're like, Ki, that was
Speaker 3: your first kill. You must have remembered your first kill, certainly.
Speaker 6: Right, everybody remembers that.
Speaker 3: You're not going to bring up It's just seems crazy
Speaker 3: to me that you they wouldn't be like, oh, I
Speaker 3: just recognize her. That that would have been some sort
Speaker 3: of internal something that came up Like that would have
Speaker 3: been more interesting. I think if he was fighting that internally,
Speaker 3: like realizing, but no, you wouldn't have any of that.
Speaker 3: We couldn't have any of that because we needed him
Speaker 3: to just be like super cocky.
Speaker 2: We couldn't have that because we needed to have a
Speaker 2: conversation where they both go, yeah, I don't have a
Speaker 2: favorite color and then the other person goes yeah, oh okay,
Speaker 2: which is one of those thoughts you just you keep
Speaker 2: inside you don't need.
Speaker 3: To ever voice that, or or like have you ever
Speaker 3: played thumb Wars And she's like no. Then they play
Speaker 3: And that's something that happened when they were camping in
Speaker 3: the first trial.
Speaker 1: But I'm dancing too had room for that.
Speaker 3: They also did dancing. I don't know why that was happening.
Speaker 5: I thought, so the maze the like twist, I guess
Speaker 5: was also the King said to Kai that maybe he
Speaker 5: was going to get to kill Peyden in the next trials, and.
Speaker 6: I was like, are we killing people?
Speaker 5: And then it was like, okay, at the center of
Speaker 5: the maze, once you get there, there's going to be
Speaker 5: an ordinary waiting for you that.
Speaker 6: You have to kill.
Speaker 5: And so I was like, first I was like, oh
Speaker 5: my god, Peydon is going to be trapped right there,
Speaker 5: and then Kai is gonna have to kill her. No,
Speaker 5: she gets to start at the start line like the
Speaker 5: other people competing. And then I thought, maybe her father
Speaker 5: isn't really dead and he's going to be the person there.
Speaker 6: Also No, but it was it her, It was her DNA.
Speaker 3: It was a again again so funny. We didn't even
Speaker 3: mention this. She's there at the beginning and then I
Speaker 3: don't know, halfway through the book. Literally these are thoughts
Speaker 3: that uh, Peyton has, Oh, I forgot about my friend.
Speaker 3: She likes to sew, maybe she can make my dress.
Speaker 3: And then she has her coming to make her dresses
Speaker 3: and talks to her about nothing else, not about Ki,
Speaker 3: not about Kit, not about residenting, nothing and.
Speaker 6: Author is I got to rest. The plot.
Speaker 3: Shows up and she's but also like I was confused
Speaker 3: because she didn't have to kill her. She was like
Speaker 3: already dying or something like what happened she was and
Speaker 3: she was like I'm sorry, and I'm like I don't
Speaker 3: know what you did. You were just so in some dresses.
Speaker 3: I'll fucking No.
Speaker 5: We find out and powerful we need or maybe a novella.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, the Powerful, Yeah that is the one that would,
Speaker 3: I guess tell us.
Speaker 2: It's us for just writing one book and expecting to
Speaker 2: be able to understand the book by.
Speaker 1: Reading the book. Yeah, yeah, we needed the whole compendium.
Speaker 5: Stupid girls, stupid fucking book.
Speaker 3: All right, let's can we talk a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 3: there's so much to make fun of, it's almost endless.
Speaker 3: But did you guys like Kai and Peyton, did you
Speaker 3: like their flirting scenes?
Speaker 5: Well, okay, that's a loaded question, because overall I was
Speaker 5: looking forward to those scenes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.
Speaker 5: Do feel as though I didn't get the return on
Speaker 5: my investment sure listening to them. Yes, would I venture
Speaker 5: through the next four books to perhaps get another taste,
Speaker 5: Yes I would.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I might agree with you there, Sabri.
Speaker 3: I hated it at the beginning, and then once I
Speaker 3: think I gave up on trying to make sense of anybody,
Speaker 3: or like the lot, like I just gave up on
Speaker 3: the logic of everything, or the fact that like this
Speaker 3: Chai character, the way he talks doesn't make any sense
Speaker 3: given his background. I then I was able to just
Speaker 3: enjoy that they are. They're like just super flirty and
Speaker 3: they're just looking for reasons to like touch each other.
Speaker 3: And they're just like, never gonna admit it.
Speaker 2: I think what you both are describing is that this
Speaker 2: book nagged you both, and it was so mean to you,
Speaker 2: and it ignored your needs as readers for so long
Speaker 2: that finally, when it turned a tiny little bit of
Speaker 2: its light on you and had a little bit of fun,
Speaker 2: flirty banter, you both snapped.
Speaker 3: At it like, yeah, I was like good enough. At
Speaker 3: the hook, we.
Speaker 1: Were like, oh my god, thank you for paying attention
Speaker 1: to my.
Speaker 3: Need book, and I have for giving me strategy here.
Speaker 2: To give so little to your reader that the crumb
Speaker 2: that you throw out of flirtation will be thought of
Speaker 2: as good.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's accurate.
Speaker 6: Yes, I honestly I don't. I don't have any criticism
Speaker 6: on your commentary.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's true, Chris. It was what got me at
Speaker 3: all continuing to read the book. I mean, other than
Speaker 3: we had too for this podcast.
Speaker 1: Yeah, other than it's our jobs.
Speaker 3: But look, did the book did the book end with
Speaker 3: setting up that? That's setting up that the Kai Kit
Speaker 3: is now the king and Kai has to go find
Speaker 3: her and bring her back. So do am I excited
Speaker 3: for that? Yes? Because I it's just going to be
Speaker 3: forced proximity all over again. We're sing zero again, and
Speaker 3: it's going to be more of an end, like this
Speaker 3: is going to be the true enemies, because like, you
Speaker 3: killed my dad, well, you killed my dad, well your
Speaker 3: dad sucked well.
Speaker 5: Well, I think the best thing that could have happened
Speaker 5: was that she killed his dad, because now, like it'd
Speaker 5: be pretty tough to forgive someone for killing your father, right, Yes,
Speaker 5: you've also there.
Speaker 3: Yeah and now so now it's even now, there's evens
Speaker 3: Now they're the one person in the world that can
Speaker 3: understand you.
Speaker 2: You have something in common because we know you don't
Speaker 2: have colors in common.
Speaker 3: We know that.
Speaker 1: We didn't talk about TV, so I don't know what
Speaker 1: else they have.
Speaker 3: Really, there were books. There was a mention of books
Speaker 3: existing in her room when she came to the castle,
Speaker 3: but no, she didn't read any of them as far
Speaker 3: as I know.
Speaker 1: But cool that in theory this main character can read
Speaker 1: that is not Romantay books the main character sometimes and
Speaker 1: that's hot too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know there, I can't. Like there were
Speaker 3: other characters, but it's like barely worth mentioning them. Blair Archer.
Speaker 3: I guess she was the other mean girl, but like
Speaker 3: their immediately rival, like it was just I don't know.
Speaker 3: I thought it was just stupid that it's like Blair,
Speaker 3: she's walking in there with her tits up. She's probably
Speaker 3: trying to impress Kai and Kit. It's like, maybe, no,
Speaker 3: she wasn't. She was just like a girl. She's known
Speaker 3: them since she was kids, and now she's fighting.
Speaker 1: Like sorry, she has perky tits.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like Peyton was like pretty bitchy to her.
Speaker 3: She's not very feminist. She's a she's not a gal's girl.
Speaker 3: She loves to flirt. I don't, I don't nothing bad, Like, okay,
Speaker 3: nothing bad. That's not fair. Her dad does die.
Speaker 6: But it's not like an action and her story.
Speaker 3: Everything's really coming up Payde Like she's got a task.
Speaker 3: She does it, she's got to fight, she wins it.
Speaker 2: I do feel bad for her that her nickname in
Speaker 2: the book is gray, even though her hair is silver.
Speaker 3: Kai likes to call her gray.
Speaker 6: It's his cute we name.
Speaker 3: Her last name is girl.
Speaker 6: It was her last name.
Speaker 3: It's her last name. What's also stupid? Her name's Peyton Gray.
Speaker 1: I missed that. Well, it's understandable because because of the
Speaker 1: color of her hair.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that would was is funnier and fair,
Speaker 3: but no, it's it's even stupider than that. It's the
Speaker 3: her last name is the color of her hair.
Speaker 1: Okay, so honestly killed her dad? Then for sure? You know,
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 6: I'm sure he doesn't know the name.
Speaker 3: Like, oh, there was a little girl with still like
Speaker 3: gray hair, and then I killed her dad. You don't
Speaker 3: know who that is. You know who it is, you
Speaker 3: know who the fuck it is.
Speaker 6: Maybe it was really okay?
Speaker 5: Then yeah, maybe somehow it was really Kit who killed
Speaker 5: her father.
Speaker 3: That would make more sense to me, But also, like
Speaker 3: none of it makes to me. If we if I
Speaker 3: take another step forward, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: What if she.
Speaker 2: Killed her dad and this has all been her subconscience
Speaker 2: playing an elaborate game to protect her.
Speaker 5: This is the wild West, and I believe that anything
Speaker 5: could happen in these next four books, including that.
Speaker 1: And I believe that you're going to find out.
Speaker 6: I believe that as well. What are our next five
Speaker 6: books of this season? Is it these books?
Speaker 3: Yeah? We're just doing all these? Yeah? Also, why was
Speaker 3: where were there was like flicking each other's nose or
Speaker 3: like paid and would flick Kays and I was like,
Speaker 3: why are we flicky noses? That kept happening?
Speaker 1: No one should ever touch my nose, I understand.
Speaker 3: I was like, is that cute? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Well I remember in super Bad when they're like, boop boop.
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess that was Michael Sarah and Jonah
Speaker 5: Hill and not a flirt, but it was very sweet.
Speaker 1: Did you know that? Uh, there's a serial killer test
Speaker 1: that involves booping a nose.
Speaker 3: I think it's no.
Speaker 5: If you boop a why is it that my reaction
Speaker 5: is I want to pass as a serial killer.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: Um, if you boop a serial killer's nose too many times,
Speaker 1: they'll freak out. But a normal person will just have
Speaker 1: a normal reaction. I guess you could google nose boop
Speaker 1: test serial killer.
Speaker 3: All right, I'll get right on that.
Speaker 5: I did, and the first thing twenty three physical abnormalities
Speaker 5: of serial killers. And then you know how sometimes I'll
Speaker 5: be like missing from your search, missing booping.
Speaker 3: All right, guys, can.
Speaker 6: We go back to the powers? Can we talk powers?
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, okay, here's some powers just to give you
Speaker 3: to remember. Amplifier, the ability of voice projection, bronni, the
Speaker 3: ability of strength, cloner, the ability of clone creation. Uh flash,
Speaker 3: the ability of enhanced speed gus, the ability to control
Speaker 3: air and wind.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you think amplifier ever accidentally left
Speaker 2: her amplifier on and then was talking about someone and
Speaker 2: that was getting amplified and.
Speaker 3: She absolutely.
Speaker 6: Or like flushed the toilet backstage?
Speaker 3: Oh my, oh my god. Hyper the ability of enhanced
Speaker 3: senses is apparently one, although we that just sounds unpleasant.
Speaker 3: Shimmer the ability to maybe a light. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: so there is one that's just a light bulb. I
Speaker 3: knew it. I knew there would be. There's a whole
Speaker 3: stage crew.
Speaker 1: It's like some of the people. You've got your lighting,
Speaker 1: who's got sound?
Speaker 2: Is there one whose skill is backdrop? You can become
Speaker 2: any background that everybody needs to put on any production.
Speaker 6: The ability to give air conditioning.
Speaker 3: There's site, the ability to record and project.
Speaker 6: We saw those people walking around.
Speaker 1: There's there's that sucks where you can tell if something's
Speaker 1: level by laying across it. Your body reads delirium if
Speaker 1: you're laying on his level.
Speaker 3: There's gotta be one that's like GPS. Right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 3: what if there what is there like a trash man one?
Speaker 3: Do you think or they just have to remove waste.
Speaker 3: I just feel like she could have come like she
Speaker 3: went with psychic, but I've just now like seen so many.
Speaker 3: I'm like, just pick one that like no one's gonna
Speaker 3: ask you to show them, like like yeah, I'm like
Speaker 3: I have like toilet power, and no one's gonna be like,
Speaker 3: show me.
Speaker 6: I can wipe my butt without any paper.
Speaker 3: It just seems like that's where we were going.
Speaker 5: Ability to surf anywhere.
Speaker 3: You know, she like, what these are so stupid? The veil,
Speaker 3: which is invisibility, volt ability of electricity, manipulation.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you could have one that's like humor
Speaker 5: ability to make anybody funny and then you just laugh
Speaker 5: at what they said.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3: You should have done that. You should have done that.
Speaker 3: That would have been a really good one for her
Speaker 3: because it would have made it like it would have
Speaker 3: fed into her being charming. God, I mean, I guess
Speaker 3: she did. People are stupid, though, I just think it's
Speaker 3: so funny the like just idea that it's like we
Speaker 3: in this world which is set not Middle Ages, I
Speaker 3: don't really know, but like we all have technology because
Speaker 3: people a power life. It's just so funny to me,
Speaker 3: like do you, like, is there someone who's like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like Internet. I'm sure there is. I'm just like
Speaker 3: I have to just to know, like.
Speaker 1: Ye mobile hot, anyone can connect to you, up to
Speaker 1: four people can connect to you at any moment.
Speaker 3: Cool power.
Speaker 1: Bless you know what.
Speaker 3: And we never really understand why the king is like
Speaker 3: getting rid of the Ordinaries or like other than he
Speaker 3: like makes up a lie that they're disease, but like why,
Speaker 3: like it doesn't it's not.
Speaker 6: King is ordinary and he wants to he.
Speaker 3: Had some powers. He was fighting her with some powers.
Speaker 1: It's just it's not clear, like what benefit to the
Speaker 1: kingdom it provides to get rid of ordinaries.
Speaker 3: I guess like it, it doesn't make it. It really
Speaker 3: doesn't make it doesn't make sense. I needed like a
Speaker 3: lot more explanation for that. It's not like a you know,
Speaker 3: or historically the Ordinaries were you know, really cruel to
Speaker 3: the people with abilities and called them free like there could.
Speaker 2: Have been any easy bat around X man sort of
Speaker 2: thing like yeah, and called them freaks.
Speaker 3: And then you're like, okay, well now they got the
Speaker 3: power and this is them getting you know, but no,
Speaker 3: we don't have any ammimations.
Speaker 5: I guess it could just be like Darwinism slash elitism.
Speaker 6: It's like you're weak, we don't want you.
Speaker 5: Bye.
Speaker 3: Yeah. But then like, why don't you just do something?
Speaker 3: We were like, uh, we'll just make it so you
Speaker 3: can't have babies.
Speaker 5: I don't fucking know, Like, yeah, it seems so extreme,
Speaker 5: make them Munichsa think you could have a career in politics.
Speaker 1: You're incredible the way you think on your feet, you
Speaker 1: find solutions.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like, look, we can do these things. Oh my god,
Speaker 3: this book is so stupid. I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 3: I feel like there's definitely probably random things that we
Speaker 3: could talk about, but I don't even there are other characters.
Speaker 3: Lenny was a redhead who worked as a guard, but
Speaker 3: he was like bad at his job and he was
Speaker 3: never there. But then was he revealed to be in
Speaker 3: the resistance or am I just making that up?
Speaker 6: I don't recall, all.
Speaker 3: Right, fair doesn't matter. It just was like it seemed weird,
Speaker 3: seemed weird that she could do whatever she wanted.
Speaker 2: I've never heard anyone used the phrase I do not
Speaker 2: recall unless they've been asked to testify in front of
Speaker 2: a judge.
Speaker 6: So I really appreciate that I do not recall.
Speaker 2: It sounds like, uh yeah, you just want to get
Speaker 2: it right, you want to be accurate.
Speaker 6: I always do.
Speaker 2: I think we've you know, look, yes, could we make
Speaker 2: this a two and a half hour podcast.
Speaker 1: About the flaws of this book?
Speaker 3: Yes, but.
Speaker 1: I feel like we've covered you know, the big stuff.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think so. I guess the other thing I'll say,
Speaker 3: because we talked about Hunger Games, there's another book called
Speaker 3: The Red Queen, which is apparently very very similar, and
Speaker 3: I believe the author even said has actually said Red
Speaker 3: Queen is one of her favorite books, and she described
Speaker 3: this as Red Queen meets Hunger Games. And then like
Speaker 3: if you look up Red Queen, you're like, oh it,
Speaker 3: this is exactly. It's like, you know, even like to
Speaker 3: the it was a world where some people have powers
Speaker 3: and others don't, and there's like a two princes they're
Speaker 3: half brothers, and there's a love triangle and she has
Speaker 3: to hide who she is. It's like all these there's
Speaker 3: a bunch of it just yeah, maybe it's better, but
Speaker 3: it probably is. Right. Well, anyway, this is like huge,
Speaker 3: and I don't even know what to say. I actually
Speaker 3: had the thought just because she's the author is super
Speaker 3: online that I was like, I think more so than
Speaker 3: other authors.
Speaker 1: She's gonna chance with her. Huh.
Speaker 3: She said that, how does that make you feel worried?
Speaker 5: I guess we'll never release this episode.
Speaker 3: I mean it's okay. I feel like she's doing really well. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's still okay.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you know what, that is what I always
Speaker 5: have to remind myself as we are punching.
Speaker 3: Up and and honestly, good on her for writing such
Speaker 3: a flawed book and for it to become so like
Speaker 3: and putting it out there, because I feel like the
Speaker 3: problem with I think I'm assuming a lot of people craziest,
Speaker 3: well so fresh. It's hard savage being so precious about
Speaker 3: things and then never putting them out there. And it's like,
Speaker 3: I feel like this is an example of like, yeah,
Speaker 3: just put it out there. People sometimes don't give a
Speaker 3: fuck about the flaws.
Speaker 1: Perfect is the enemy of fine in this case.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, she was brave.
Speaker 2: Enough to say it's fine and look, there's clearly some
Speaker 2: magic here. There is some sprinkle magic. I enjoyed listening
Speaker 2: to this book for a lot of it. I did
Speaker 2: a lot of a.
Speaker 3: Lot of you know, a big chunk of the middle.
Speaker 2: Bad writ hour through but no, no, not a bad
Speaker 2: writer at all. But look to compare it, I know
Speaker 2: you are all against me, but to compare it to
Speaker 2: last week Ninth House that was so innovative and imaginative
Speaker 2: and had so many creative moments, this felt so derivative
Speaker 2: of other stuff.
Speaker 6: I just feel like I was. I was not on
Speaker 6: last week's episode. However, I did read the book.
Speaker 3: You loved it.
Speaker 1: That book, No, God, damn it.
Speaker 5: Really, I well what I'll say about that book, And
Speaker 5: I was really sad to have read it and not
Speaker 5: to be able to be at the report.
Speaker 6: That's truly my nightmare.
Speaker 5: But I have never been able to pay attention to
Speaker 5: a book less than that book, so I would have
Speaker 5: had very little little to contribute.
Speaker 3: It was fine. We we talked, We talked that book out.
Speaker 3: We don't we don't need to return to it. But
Speaker 3: I see, Johanna, that I see what you're saying. There's
Speaker 3: a lot more information I guess in that book.
Speaker 5: I was saying.
Speaker 1: It wasn't simply saying that the book had more information.
Speaker 3: I wasn't say.
Speaker 5: I'll say about the comment you were making, which is
Speaker 5: sure this book is derivative of other things.
Speaker 6: But like you know, it's derivative of things that I
Speaker 6: really like. So it made me like it pull that
Speaker 6: for a pool.
Speaker 2: Quote on the cover of the book is a derivative, yes,
Speaker 2: but is it of things that I like?
Speaker 3: Also?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 3: I mean god, what she did. She wrote it like
Speaker 3: booking at TikTok and knowing book talk and then like
Speaker 3: being like, here the tropes people want, and she was like,
Speaker 3: I'm going to shove as many of them as in
Speaker 3: as I can. And it was it was it worked
Speaker 3: out for her. You can't deny it.
Speaker 1: I was gonna hear this.
Speaker 3: Sorry. Well, then let's listen to some good Reads five
Speaker 3: star reviews, shall we again? This is this is one
Speaker 3: of those books. Over one hundred and twenty nine thousand reviews,
Speaker 3: over nine hundred and seventy three thousand ratings, four point
Speaker 3: one five, So it's pretty high that many ratings. That's
Speaker 3: a that's an overall high average. So let's get some
Speaker 3: of these five stars out. Sloan said the banter, the tension,
Speaker 3: not one kiss, the ebilogue five stars. Now, Hannah gave
Speaker 3: it six stars. She said, pay is such a brave
Speaker 3: and strong FMC. She always has the best comebacks and
Speaker 3: isn't afraid to fight for what she wants. I love
Speaker 3: that she was able to fake her psychic ability so convincingly,
Speaker 3: and she had such cool fight scenes. Kai my man,
Speaker 3: Oh my god. He's so funny and caring, and he
Speaker 3: also has a really tragic backstory sad face. But he's
Speaker 3: so understanding and when he opened up to pay it
Speaker 3: was the cutest thing. I love it when guys are
Speaker 3: the ones being vulnerable. Also, he has damp balls.
Speaker 6: Elli. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Also, his real name is Malachi e I agree.
Speaker 1: Hannah, Hannah, come on, You're better than this.
Speaker 6: Malachi has a really hot name.
Speaker 2: It is not I don't. It feels like it's the
Speaker 2: name of a demon from hell. To me, that's what
Speaker 2: I think. I guess one of Satan's minions. Sort of.
Speaker 3: Maybe the only name angel.
Speaker 5: Hotter than Malachi is Makhaie mackay.
Speaker 1: It sounds like macau, like a parrot.
Speaker 5: No, No, Malachi.
Speaker 3: Is angel. It's an angel.
Speaker 1: I think a fallen angel.
Speaker 3: Oh perhaps, but.
Speaker 6: I'm looking at up. I wrote Maliki, look up.
Speaker 1: My serial killer boop think.
Speaker 3: Niehas she said not to be dramatic, but lives were
Speaker 3: changed five stars, so a lot of people loving it.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but what about how did we feel?
Speaker 3: How did we feel? What is the hate rate coming
Speaker 3: in for this one?
Speaker 5: I'm ready, Okay, go ahead, I'm going to give it
Speaker 5: a four out of five. I do think there were
Speaker 5: a number of areas for improvement. One would have given
Speaker 5: at least a kiss come on. Two maybe would have
Speaker 5: tied the beginning of the book into the end of
Speaker 5: the book a.
Speaker 3: Little bitter.
Speaker 1: For future books.
Speaker 5: That's for future books, sure, but also it was inspiring
Speaker 5: to me of like kind of along the lines of
Speaker 5: Sarah's savage statement of like, good on you for putting
Speaker 5: it out there, like, also good on you for finishing it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like yeah, the reason I haven't written a book or.
Speaker 5: Had a book published, this guy won't write a book,
Speaker 5: and in my mind, I want to.
Speaker 6: And you did it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then you wrote a bunch more and then
Speaker 5: you wrote little side novellas.
Speaker 6: And also.
Speaker 5: You're so much more achieved than I am at half
Speaker 5: my age.
Speaker 3: Congratulations.
Speaker 6: Maybe I'm knocking down the ranking because I'm mad at her.
Speaker 2: Now okay, oh, you talked yourself, you talked yourself down.
Speaker 6: I got mad she's so young and so successful. You know,
Speaker 6: I'm very happy about it.
Speaker 3: It is hard, It is hard to support that sometimes.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh like yeah, good for you.
Speaker 3: I wish I knew more about her background too. I
Speaker 3: hated how like little we knew about just like from Michigan.
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, give me a story.
Speaker 1: Lauren Roberts actually sounds like a super made up name
Speaker 1: to me.
Speaker 3: Also, yeah, it does sound very generic, very maybe yeah,
Speaker 3: we'll see what she will see what she keeps. Maybe,
Speaker 3: you know, in ten years I'll be like absolutely devouring
Speaker 3: Lauren Roberts books. It's just possible the y A version
Speaker 3: of her is not the author for me.
Speaker 1: Like years, she's going to be like it was me,
Speaker 1: John Grisham.
Speaker 3: I just oh no, I don't know I've seen her interviews.
Speaker 1: Or did she see someone pretending to be La pretending to.
Speaker 6: Be here perhaps or an AI person. She is very beautiful.
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, I'm going to give this a God this
Speaker 3: is hard. I'm going to say three out of five
Speaker 3: because I almost want to give it a higher reading
Speaker 3: because I just think this was a great book for
Speaker 3: the cast, Like it was a perfect book for the cast.
Speaker 3: There was so much in this to make fun of.
Speaker 3: There was so much of it was funny, but it
Speaker 3: also like wasn't hard to read, it wasn't painful to read.
Speaker 3: Like like I said, I could get through this one.
Speaker 3: I got through this one really fast fast, especially when
Speaker 3: I took it off audio. I really did start enjoying
Speaker 3: the the Malachi and paid in flirting like I was
Speaker 3: having fun with it. I was waiting for them to
Speaker 3: make out. And I think the only sad thing or
Speaker 3: the thing that might keep me from reading on is
Speaker 3: that I know that like they never have sex in
Speaker 3: the it's a very ya and then apparently there's only
Speaker 3: like I don't, I don't, I don't think so. I
Speaker 3: think it's it's not if it's not written. If nothing,
Speaker 3: they have like one kiss at the end of the
Speaker 3: second book, and I don't know what.
Speaker 5: Happens to the third book, but like you know, you know,
Speaker 5: there was going to be a tease the whole times.
Speaker 5: And I still love that. That's true, that's true.
Speaker 3: I just I feel like for me, what made this
Speaker 3: compare to The Hunger Games, which I found compelling plot wise?
Speaker 3: This did was not compelling plot wise. The world she
Speaker 3: created was not compelling. So the only thing that was
Speaker 3: going for it was the flirtation between the two main characters,
Speaker 3: and so for them to not fuck is like a
Speaker 3: problem for me. So that's gonna have to go down
Speaker 3: to three for me. Three o five.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm really okay with them not fucking. That's fine.
Speaker 2: I really I like the build up. I like the flirtation. Okay,
Speaker 2: So how do I rate this? Knowing that the author
Speaker 2: is listening right now? You know where I go in
Speaker 2: my mind is, Look, we playfully made fun of it,
Speaker 2: and honestly we started, I think on a real high
Speaker 2: when we said that she was super hot. I think
Speaker 2: if it were me, that would booy me for the
Speaker 2: rest of the episode. I would I would take everything
Speaker 2: in good spirits after that. So I think, knowing that,
Speaker 2: knowing that she's in a good mood, because you know,
Speaker 2: really we were complimentary, I think I can fairly give
Speaker 2: it a three for the same reason Sarah did.
Speaker 1: I think it was a really fun book for the cast.
Speaker 2: It was a great book for the cast, But like, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's no Ninth Out, you know, it's so Stephen King,
Speaker 2: it's no Hemingway, it's.
Speaker 1: It's no The Secret. And yet it's no malice. I
Speaker 1: ended up at three.
Speaker 3: That's what malice. That's what I was really comparing to
Speaker 3: Ninth House.
Speaker 5: Now, I was just gonna say, if we're if we're
Speaker 5: ready for little Fucker, I have I have just like
Speaker 5: a statement in advance, and then I have my vote.
Speaker 5: I prepared something, and the statement I prepared is John,
Speaker 5: I would love for you to remember who brought up
Speaker 5: that she was hot, and that was me, and so
Speaker 5: I really helped put her in this this good mood
Speaker 5: and that good tone.
Speaker 6: So anyway, that's my just statement I'm going to start.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say, and then my my vote is for
Speaker 6: Sarah because told me that.
Speaker 5: There's only one kiss that of the second book and
Speaker 5: then maybe nothing in the third book. And so now
Speaker 5: I can't go and read them because I read that
Speaker 5: what happens.
Speaker 3: I just feel like I just want to prepare because
Speaker 3: that would be very That was very disappointing for me
Speaker 3: to find out.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't know, well, and maybe I'm lashing out
Speaker 5: at the information and you're just the target of my.
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, it's interesting because I was going to vote
Speaker 3: for you, Sabrina. And you know why, It's because right
Speaker 3: now you're looking at us. You've got this like cunty
Speaker 3: little bob. You've got these little glasses you're really serving
Speaker 3: and I'm like you and I don't know why, but
Speaker 3: it's like it's it's pissing me off.
Speaker 5: So wow, John, if you wanted to vote for me
Speaker 5: for the same reason, I'd really like it.
Speaker 1: To say, okay the phrase you've got a cunty little bob.
Speaker 1: But also, Sarah has the same haircut right now? Is
Speaker 1: this same length as Sabrina's?
Speaker 5: It is you you are blind. It's not to get
Speaker 5: myself out of.
Speaker 6: Mine's above the shoulder, right below the shoulder.
Speaker 2: It's not below it's what there's a one inch difference,
Speaker 2: but you both have long bobs.
Speaker 3: What's not at all? Okay?
Speaker 2: I first of all, I was gonna vote for Sabrina
Speaker 2: for her whole little First, I have a statement to
Speaker 2: make which I thought was gonna be related to little fucker,
Speaker 2: and then it was just like it is. It was
Speaker 2: just a statement to say, like do we all just
Speaker 2: get like.
Speaker 5: No, it was why it was something that saved you
Speaker 5: throughout the podcast, and I just wanted you to remember
Speaker 5: who saved you.
Speaker 1: I see.
Speaker 3: It felt like just as like I think I was.
Speaker 2: I felt like it was like, now a personal statement.
Speaker 2: I want everyone to know that I've begun taking hot yoga.
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: Why right? It feels like it.
Speaker 2: The whole podcast is your chance to just talk and
Speaker 2: talk and talk about whatever you want. You'd have to
Speaker 2: wait for now to make a statement, Okay, I understand now,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna it's really hard to choose between the
Speaker 2: two of you with your cunty little reactions to me
Speaker 2: comparing your haircuts, Like, honestly, it's really you.
Speaker 5: Weren't You weren't using it in the same way Sarah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you did use it differently.
Speaker 6: You used it with a hard set.
Speaker 3: You used it the way Kai would use it and
Speaker 3: not the way Kit would use it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel attacked by both of you.
Speaker 2: All I can do at this point is I just
Speaker 2: feel like it has I have to split my vote.
Speaker 2: It's both of you, and I don't like this little duo.
Speaker 3: Wow has that ever been done? I don't. I don't care.
Speaker 3: It is it's both of you. You're attacking me.
Speaker 1: Came out of nowhere, and your rage.
Speaker 2: Over me comparing your your haircuts, I don't And then
Speaker 2: that I use the hard seed, but you both are
Speaker 2: using a soft sea.
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know. I don't like it.
Speaker 3: I don't like how I don't like who you are
Speaker 3: right now. Wow. Wow, that's very funny. So I guess
Speaker 3: I half vote for each of you. I guess so
Speaker 3: Sabrina and I are the little fuckers of the cast
Speaker 3: County little fuckers.
Speaker 6: I love it, one and a half to one and
Speaker 6: a half.
Speaker 3: Great, great, great great. Okay, what are we doing? So? Guys?
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Speaker 3: What are we reading next week?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've been reading it already.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I'm like a quarter of the way through.
Speaker 2: And give yourselves time, you guys, it's a long.
Speaker 3: While, Oh it is.
Speaker 6: Why have we picked so many ways?
Speaker 1: I don't know? This was this seventeen hour audio book.
Speaker 1: We didn't do your diligence this season at all.
Speaker 5: I feel like I and I missed the meeting because
Speaker 5: I feel like it just happened and was really sprung
Speaker 5: in a way that it was given no notice. I agree,
Speaker 5: but I'm very vigilant about checking.
Speaker 3: Well next time, beyond it.
Speaker 5: I feel, you know, I well, it was just like
Speaker 5: we're was it the day you guys met with Blake?
Speaker 5: And yeah it was, and it just like it was like, hey,
Speaker 5: we already have a meeting setup, can you join?
Speaker 6: And I could not because I was gonna be out
Speaker 6: of town.
Speaker 5: And and then I feel like you've.
Speaker 3: Book any of these?
Speaker 6: No, well, it was once there was a booklest what
Speaker 6: was I going to do go in and say.
Speaker 3: Oh, look, okay, But you have to understand there was
Speaker 3: also outcome Alchemized, which was a thirty six hour audio
Speaker 3: book length, So like anything next to that seemed pretty sure.
Speaker 6: You got to throw in like a nine, got to.
Speaker 1: Throw in a nine. The Secret of Secrets is slow going.
Speaker 5: So are you really expressed being very excited about it.
Speaker 1: I'm reading like for tonight.
Speaker 6: And you're going to get through it.
Speaker 1: But I can't wait to get to my reading. It
Speaker 1: makes me so excited.
Speaker 3: But I mean, and we have a special guest too
Speaker 3: for this.
Speaker 1: Guys will be joining us again. He wanted to do
Speaker 1: this book. He requested it, so we said.
Speaker 2: Please come back, we'll do the book, we'll have some fun.
Speaker 2: So from last season he's coming back.
Speaker 3: Wow, No, time. No wait, no wait, come back already
Speaker 3: all right. Well, I guess we'll see the rest of
Speaker 3: y'all later.
Speaker 6: Bye bye. Follow us on all the socials