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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, dear listener, and thanks for joining us.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm Stephen and this is a podcast all about

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<v Speaker 2>the weird and wonderful world of the dark comedy anthology

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<v Speaker 2>series Inside Number nine.

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<v Speaker 1>On each episode, we'll be diving into another one of

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Pemberton and Reese Shearsmith's twisted tales, putting it under

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<v Speaker 1>a lens and examining it within an inch of its life.

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<v Speaker 2>So make yourself comfortable, grab a cup of tea, and

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<v Speaker 2>join us for the ninth degree.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Slay Queens.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I am fabulous starling. How are you? River has entered

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<v Speaker 1>the chat, So yeah, that's how of recording. I put

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<v Speaker 1>a poll on our Instagram yesterday to see if listeners

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<v Speaker 1>agree with you that I'm Camp. And I was let's

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<v Speaker 1>just say, I was expecting maybe somewhat of a split vote, right,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, unanimous, hundred percent agreed with you. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>forced to reevaluate my personality. It's fine, it's fine. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel awful. No, no, no, you should. It's fine. It's

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<v Speaker 1>funny though, because what does camp mean? Like? And I

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<v Speaker 1>always thought camp was like flamboyant and like I did

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<v Speaker 1>you know joking at the start there, and that's not me.

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<v Speaker 2>No.

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<v Speaker 1>I like to think I'm softly spoken. But anyway, regardless

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<v Speaker 1>of campness.

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<v Speaker 2>How are you, I'm good, good? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? All right? I had a very long meeting at

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<v Speaker 1>work today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it sounded painful, five.

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<v Speaker 1>Hours and it was one of those where they forced

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<v Speaker 1>you to have your camera on. Oh no, And I

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<v Speaker 1>was saying to my colleague, like, the trouble with that

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<v Speaker 1>is you've got to remember to control your facial expressions

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<v Speaker 1>when someone says something ridiculous and I'm just there like

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<v Speaker 1>making a face like what the fuck are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 1>And then I'm like, oh god, I'm on screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, if you can get away with not having

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<v Speaker 2>your camera on. But it's yeah, We've got a manager

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<v Speaker 2>that will always make his stock joke of are you

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<v Speaker 2>in witness protection if you don't have a camera on,

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like, oh, it's not funny, it's not funny. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let's get the cameras back on. Yeah, the joys of

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<v Speaker 2>office life.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh well, anything exciting going on in your life? No? No,

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<v Speaker 1>this week fair enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Got warm, which is nice. You're all welcome for the

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<v Speaker 2>warm weather. I tried to sow grass seed at the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>so it won't rain again for about six weeks. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you're all welcome for the nice weather.

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<v Speaker 1>Should we reveal our hair from last week?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? What was it last week? Oh? It was Nana's party.

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<v Speaker 2>Love a nice shout out for Dorothy Perkins. She doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>get much love blessing. They're not even that old, are they, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that's where my nana's party dress came from. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all old lady clothes. Yeah, I made up the

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<v Speaker 2>fact about my grandma. I'm sorry, Grandma. I think her

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<v Speaker 2>dress was from Bombash.

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<v Speaker 1>The other old lady shop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So see whether you can hear this week's slipped

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<v Speaker 2>in somewhere mm hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in case anyone's not sure what we're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>we like to hide an episode title in our discussion

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<v Speaker 1>every week for you to spot. We call it our

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<v Speaker 1>hair or hidden allusion to a random episode.

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<v Speaker 2>We do need to keep refreshing people every now and then,

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<v Speaker 2>or we're going to get us some new listeners and

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna have no idea what the hell we're on about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I mean, I don't know if people would would

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<v Speaker 1>people just jump in and listen to the most recent one.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe I don't know if I started new podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to start from the beginning. But yeah, well it's.

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<v Speaker 2>An anthology, so I guess you could jump him whenever

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<v Speaker 2>you want exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of which, hurry up and wait.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, indeed, we're on episode four of series six, The Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a short one today. The synopsis. Actor James is

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<v Speaker 2>waiting for his big moment on ITV's new crime drama

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<v Speaker 2>in a static caravan owned by a strange family that

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<v Speaker 2>clearly have something to hide.

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<v Speaker 1>General views, this is one that I remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Thinking was a bit meh, and then watched it and

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<v Speaker 2>quite enjoyed it today.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. I think it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's enjoyable. It's got a lot of humor. Yeah, interesting

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<v Speaker 1>stuff in it. It's not my favorite, it's not not

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<v Speaker 1>there with the best, but it's it's perfectly serviceable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. They do a good job. Yeah, it's interesting, it's funny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a wildly memorable one.

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<v Speaker 1>No.

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<v Speaker 2>The whole concept of this episode is that we're in

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<v Speaker 2>a caravan, we're at an ITV shoot, and they like

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<v Speaker 2>to sort of co opt people's houses or in this case,

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<v Speaker 2>the caravan has green rooms nearby if they can't get

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere to keep people, all the actors and things on

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<v Speaker 2>set between yeah, between scenes. So they've hired, they've paid

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<v Speaker 2>off this family to use their lovely caravan, and hilarity ensues.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, hilarity and awkwardness.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so much awkward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes. I know my partner Ben would hate this episode

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<v Speaker 1>because he hates secondhand embarrassment.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>He finds it really cringey to deal with. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of that, and.

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<v Speaker 2>There's there really really is. I would so struggle with this,

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<v Speaker 2>And I've been in that situation. They're hanging around while

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<v Speaker 2>people are just doing stuff around you and you just

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<v Speaker 2>want them to sod off. Oh yeah, but you can't

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<v Speaker 2>say anything.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to be polite and friendly. And James, the

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<v Speaker 1>character of Reese plays he's so nice and friendly and polite.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which has a nice guy for this week for

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<v Speaker 2>a change.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Like, it is a really awkward situation to be in,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have paid off this family, like, and they've

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<v Speaker 1>asked them to kind of, you know, give them space.

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<v Speaker 2>Yea.

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<v Speaker 1>So I suppose they're within their rights to say, can

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<v Speaker 1>you buger off? Please, but you just don't feel you can.

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<v Speaker 2>How do you say that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So apparently this episode was inspired partly by a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of their own real experiences while filming things.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 1>Particularly apparently there was an episode of League of Gentlemen

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<v Speaker 1>they were filming where they went into someone's house and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a lady sitting there in a dressing gown

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<v Speaker 1>and she said, it's my birthday. I'm having a glass

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<v Speaker 1>of champagne. And they decided to put that in the

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<v Speaker 1>episode because it suck with them for all these years.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so weird, like why would you surely, if

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<v Speaker 2>you've made a bit of money you just go out for.

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<v Speaker 1>The day, Well you think, wouldn't you.

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<v Speaker 2>At least stay in your room, Like, I know, it

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<v Speaker 2>must be tempting if there's someone actually, you know those downstairs.

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<v Speaker 1>So they were talking about this in the official podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't His Day? And Steve described them as little Woodland

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<v Speaker 1>creatures that just can't help but come and have a

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<v Speaker 2>And I mean it'd be one thing if you've got

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<v Speaker 2>Brad Pitt in your living room, but if you've just

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<v Speaker 2>got extra James.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but people do get fascinated by the whole acting

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<v Speaker 1>industry and everything, don't they.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because it's something you never get to see. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>most jobs are kind of relatable in a way, but

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<v Speaker 2>acting is so different. I can understand why people are

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<v Speaker 2>fascinated by it. We don't know how much they've got paid,

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<v Speaker 2>like it might be nothing fifty p Yeah, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>have to keep the heating on for the afternoon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, So I feel we should mention Joe the Runner. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that's a limited cast as usual within side

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<v Speaker 1>number nine. But this, this character Joe, she stands in

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<v Speaker 1>for the production as a whole, I think, and yeah, rude, politely, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I get it. It's a very busy environment.

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<v Speaker 1>James is a very small cog in a big machine.

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<v Speaker 1>She's got a lot of pressure, but she is very dismissive.

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<v Speaker 1>And then when Adrian comes in later and you see

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<v Speaker 1>the difference with how she treats him.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yes, no, yeah, she'll do anything for him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's disgusting really but yeah, and this, oh god,

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<v Speaker 1>I can't bear this whole thing. If she's got the

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<v Speaker 1>earpiece and you can't tell if she's talking to you

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Yeah, that's so frustrating.

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<v Speaker 2>It really it's so rude. It's Yeah, I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>her at all. No, I can, like you said, I

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<v Speaker 2>can understand that she's under pressure, et cetera, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 2>But man has cost nothing. M you don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be a dick.

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<v Speaker 1>No, you're choosing to be. And poor James like he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's so desperate to have a word with costume, and

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<v Speaker 1>every time he asks, he just gets ignored.

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<v Speaker 2>What he's up with his costume like it never actually

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<v Speaker 2>becomes it's never actually explained what. No, just this running

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<v Speaker 2>joke if he wants.

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<v Speaker 1>To speak to about his watch. I saw someone online

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<v Speaker 1>was suggesting that maybe his watch didn't have a battery

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<v Speaker 1>he's such a he's so thorough like he thinks that's important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we've got Joe's draw into the caravan. He's sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there trying to learn his lines. Bless him, and then

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<v Speaker 2>him comes Bev.

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<v Speaker 1>Mmm. She's an interesting characters, just fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd hate to have been the casting team this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I know what you mean.

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<v Speaker 2>How you cast Bev? Yeah and not offend her massive exactly. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's so many jokes at her expense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I often think this when I watch a film or something.

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<v Speaker 2>You can just imagine someone being called by their agent

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<v Speaker 2>being like, we've got this role for you. It'd be great.

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<v Speaker 2>You're awful, you're disgusting, you're blah blahlahlah. Yeah, we think

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<v Speaker 2>you'll be great for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like Emelda s Thornton tells a story about

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<v Speaker 1>when she got wrung up about Umbridge and she said, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this short, ugly toad like woman, apparently you'd

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<v Speaker 1>be perfect for it.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly exactly, And there's some characters where you can do it,

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<v Speaker 2>like with costume and still.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly you know. You look, you look up Donna Preston,

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<v Speaker 1>who played Bev, and she's she's a very beautiful lady,

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<v Speaker 1>but she's able to like dumb herself down for this role. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know what you mean, though it is a bit awkward,

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<v Speaker 1>like how do you And also with the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the twist that's not a twist of her potentially being

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<v Speaker 1>a boy. Yeah, that's another angle on.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have a actor that you almost can believe

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly maybe exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never seen her in anything else. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>aware of what she looks like, but yes, she looks

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<v Speaker 2>very normal, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah she does. Yeah. Yeah. And apparently Donna Preston is

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<v Speaker 1>a massive Inside Number nine fan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh nice.

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<v Speaker 1>So she was so excited when she got the role.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you're going to be playing yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Apparently Steve wrang her up to sort of say, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>Number nine and apparently she went fuck off? Is it.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? So she's not far off there. Yeah, she's closer

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<v Speaker 2>than you maybe wanted to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean we haven't got to that section yet,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just had to call out probably my favorite

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<v Speaker 2>Mmm, I've got a few which one of you going with?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think it has to be I haven't got

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's on my list.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had it in my head all day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>It is one of my bugbears. When people say mental

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<v Speaker 1>health when they mean mental health issues or something like that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like everyone has mental health. It's like saying I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>got health. Yeah you have, you have some level of health,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean if anything, having mental health meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good thing. It's a good thing I have

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<v Speaker 1>my mentally health healthy. Yeah, yes, anyway, semantics, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the tash cream that's just there for the whole.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, so unflattering.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's in a perfect mustache shape. Yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just smeared on across the top lip. It's like in

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<v Speaker 2>a perfect little mustache.

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<v Speaker 1>Because again, if, like you said, if you've got you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you've got actors coming to use your space, you kind

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<v Speaker 1>of would think you'd be a bit more presentable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Maybe, I mean at least put clothes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, not just sitting there and dressing gown. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But then I don't know. On the other hand, it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I guess, but it's it's the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that if you had the builders around or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you wouldn't just be there in your pants, like you'd

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<v Speaker 2>actually put clothes on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Sorry, that just conjured up an image I thought.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think the contrast between James and his sort

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, he's so earnest and so sort of

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<v Speaker 1>nerdy about you know, like the Jeff Pope when he

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<v Speaker 1>Adrian dunbar In and stuff like that. He's so sort

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<v Speaker 1>of these people are just you know, they're not on

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<v Speaker 1>the same wavelength and that sort of thing, and it's just.

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<v Speaker 2>Awkward from very different worlds.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's so nice as well, because he tries to

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<v Speaker 1>make a conversation with bit of about that and she's

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<v Speaker 1>just like that Disney and he doesn't just say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the end of that conversation. He then tries to

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<v Speaker 1>sort of ask her, you know, what's your favorite one?

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's sweet Dumbo one one. I didn't know there

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<v Speaker 1>was a Dumbo two.

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<v Speaker 2>You know there was there know there's been a domb

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<v Speaker 1>Straight to video. Yeah, but that's that's just such a

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<v Speaker 1>great turn of phrase, like because you you don't call it,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't call it Dumbo one. You just call it Dumbo,

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't you? As a as a strange dressing gown wearing girl,

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<v Speaker 1>he's obsessed with Disney, you can understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>She ran me with the character in Come Fly with Me.

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<v Speaker 2>I know it's not an acceptable program problem. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 2>the Disney loving woman that's going on holiday to see

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<v Speaker 2>to Disneyland. Oh yeah, she's so excited and everything she

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<v Speaker 2>she likes Disney.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think it's I'm a bit yeah yeah, no

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<v Speaker 1>shame if you're a Disney fan, no, no, no, we

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<v Speaker 1>love Disney.

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<v Speaker 2>It's when you only enjoyed Disney and the exclusion of

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<v Speaker 2>literally all other culture that's the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Bless her. Yeah, I also think she's so sweet when

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<v Speaker 1>you know, when he talks about, you know, being an

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<v Speaker 1>just like, I wouldn't want to be anyone different and

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<v Speaker 1>happy being me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah that's pretty sweet. Yeah, good for her her next character,

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<v Speaker 2>Yes of the Wonder for Pauline McGlynn. Oh, she's great.

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<v Speaker 1>She is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's frustrating as all hell, but she's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Irish accents are always funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they kind of are.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't mean that in a rude way to be Irish.

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<v Speaker 1>I just mean like, I often think, you know, something

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<v Speaker 1>just sound funnier in a strong accent than they would

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<v Speaker 1>in a bland sort of like my kind of accent.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they kind of, like, I don't know, there's just

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<v Speaker 2>something about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Gives a musicality to it. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, she's

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<v Speaker 1>very good. Are you a father ted fan?

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<v Speaker 2>I was back in the day, Yeah, years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>very much enjoyed that they made her makeup to tea. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>you're so typecast, you can't not make a cup of tea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>there's just so much staring at this point in the episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is a bit like an animal in a

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<v Speaker 1>zoo that they're just looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>There's one thing to be you know, she's doing, say

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<v Speaker 2>she was doing the washing up or whatever, but they're

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<v Speaker 2>literally just staring at him learning his lines.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Like my dad will do this, Like if I'm up

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<v Speaker 2>there and I'll be like, I don't know, cutting up

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<v Speaker 2>veg for tea or whatever, and he'll just sit at

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<v Speaker 2>the table and watch, and it's weirdly off putting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yes, I can imagine.

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<v Speaker 2>Hmmm.

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<v Speaker 1>And she's she's got that brilliant little thing about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing worse than someone busying themselves around you while you're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to concentrate.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that you just want peace and quiet.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, say, she's aware, but she's not aware enough

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<v Speaker 1>to realize that she's doing it.

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<v Speaker 2>Exact same thing. Yeah, another great quote of have you

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<v Speaker 2>got a big parach Oh? I love that, shut up

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<v Speaker 2>your doty bitchy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that is a good joke though, it's a classic.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, oh it's simple but it works.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, as it turns out, it doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 1>big part. No, and it's going to be getting smaller.

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<v Speaker 2>What's face Joe comes back at this point. I think

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<v Speaker 2>the great line of just to their faces? Are these

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<v Speaker 2>people bothering you?

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<v Speaker 1>I know that she's so rude, Yeah, so rude, real

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<v Speaker 1>disrespect right there. Yes, we should maybe explain as well

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<v Speaker 1>that the drama that they're making is based on Earth. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>what you know within the universe of the episode is

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<v Speaker 1>a real historical well from what twenty years ago or.

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<v Speaker 2>Something, Yeah, about twenty years yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Case of a baby being abducted.

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<v Speaker 2>Indeed, dramatization for ITV kind of.

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<v Speaker 1>Thing, yes, which I think there's some interesting stuff there around,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, because Pauline's carric to just say, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they should leave it be. You know, it's real life

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<v Speaker 1>for some people. Yeah, and there's there's definitely some truth

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<v Speaker 1>in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like I know, twenty years is quite a long time,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's not if it's something like a baby being stolen,

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<v Speaker 2>like that's a serious thing. It's not like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>someone I don't know smashed in a car window or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>like it's it's yeah, yeah, top of emotional cry.

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<v Speaker 1>Family are very very much still around the people who

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<v Speaker 1>knew them and this and that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a bank heist or something is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not emotionally devastating exactly. Yes, Yes, it's a funny

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<v Speaker 2>thing that, like the dramatization of a story that doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>have a resolution. I can see a meme about this,

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<v Speaker 2>like me being annoyed when the dramatization of an unsolved

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<v Speaker 2>murder doesn't have a soult at the end. What did

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<v Speaker 2>I expect?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll be honest and say that when I first

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<v Speaker 1>watched this episode and they were talking about Jeff Pope,

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed he was someone they'd made up.

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<v Speaker 2>No, he's really, Yes he is.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've discovered hears and he's apparently he's of factual

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<v Speaker 1>Drama It TV. So he does a lot of these

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<v Speaker 1>kind of dramatizations.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you have transformation to do that, to.

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<v Speaker 1>Use someone's name like that? Yeah, Well, Reese on the

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<v Speaker 1>podcast said that he hoped he didn't mind. They didn't ask.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, those songs, you don't say anything negative. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 2>only praise him, don't they exactly?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, if they were saying, oh God, so it's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a bit shit, yeah, then that would be different.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, also, Jeff Bishop is the writer.

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<v Speaker 2>I would have liked that to have been a long

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<v Speaker 2>more ongoing joke of different like like church position names.

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<v Speaker 2>Every time they mentioned it was a different one.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Cardinal, Yeah, get away with all thoughts. So we

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<v Speaker 1>have the awkward scene of James going to.

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<v Speaker 2>The loom just to get away from them.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh my god, I get such ooh at this

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<v Speaker 1>bit when he's in there and then you hear Stan

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<v Speaker 1>come home. Yeah, he's kind of terrifying.

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<v Speaker 2>He's he's Yeah, he seriously would not want to run

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<v Speaker 2>into this man in a dark alley.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he's really creepy. I don't like him.

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<v Speaker 2>Steve, that's such a nice person. He really pulls off well,

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<v Speaker 2>like terrifying. He does like rough guy.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he is such a good actor. M really embodies

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<v Speaker 1>the roles. Yeah, I was even thinking that the bit

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<v Speaker 1>when he sort of flops himself down into the chair,

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<v Speaker 1>you could just really tell that this is his home,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's just like, yeah, he's king of this old house,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's only that set, and like, yeah, it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just a set, it's really is his house.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We can talk about the set for a minute though,

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<v Speaker 2>because I'm I really know really how it works, because

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to be a lot bigger than this caravan

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<v Speaker 2>could possibly ever be. Because there's a good chunk it's

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<v Speaker 2>this living room and kitchen, which must be at least

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<v Speaker 2>half of the place, and then you've got the toilet bit,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you see Bev's bedroom at one point that

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<v Speaker 2>has at least two windows on opposite sides.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's true.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know where the hell the parents sleep. That

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't seem to be room for them to have a bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure think, I mean, it's not a set.

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<v Speaker 1>Apparently it is a real caravan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, maybe it only is a one bedroom.

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<v Speaker 1>Caravan, but they've had to pretend it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretend it's too But we'll never see the second one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, maybe it's a sofa bed.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, Yeah, minor gripe of mine.

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<v Speaker 1>I've just got a note that says stands toilet habits.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm. Unsavory.

425
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<v Speaker 2>I was reading up or read it people's opinions and things.

426
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<v Speaker 2>You're seeing the great snooker joke, they do, hear.

427
00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:40.920
<v Speaker 1>I think I read the same thread. Yeah, you probably did.

428
00:20:41.079 --> 00:20:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but he's having a enormous shit at the same

429
00:20:45.440 --> 00:20:48.160
<v Speaker 2>time that someone pops the brown and the snooker at

430
00:20:48.200 --> 00:20:49.240
<v Speaker 2>the exact same moment.

431
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<v Speaker 1>Sounds delightful.

432
00:20:50.640 --> 00:20:53.680
<v Speaker 2>That is such a great joke that you don't even notice.

433
00:20:53.720 --> 00:20:57.440
<v Speaker 2>I didn't notice it until I've read that. Yeah, brilliant,

434
00:20:57.519 --> 00:20:58.359
<v Speaker 2>brilliant work, guys.

435
00:20:58.599 --> 00:21:01.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, for me, it's how he's coming out, like doing

436
00:21:01.839 --> 00:21:06.799
<v Speaker 1>his trousers up clearly, don't wash his hands, no, Yeah,

437
00:21:06.839 --> 00:21:09.640
<v Speaker 1>And it's just, oh my god, men like that, you

438
00:21:09.720 --> 00:21:13.799
<v Speaker 1>know when here we go. But you know, when James

439
00:21:13.839 --> 00:21:15.880
<v Speaker 1>is in the toilet and he's you know, obviously he's

440
00:21:16.000 --> 00:21:18.839
<v Speaker 1>he's a guess and he feels uncomfortable and all that,

441
00:21:19.119 --> 00:21:21.119
<v Speaker 1>and this man just comes in and you can just

442
00:21:21.119 --> 00:21:23.160
<v Speaker 1>hear him saying, no, I need a ship first, and

443
00:21:23.599 --> 00:21:25.519
<v Speaker 1>you just know, oh my god, I don't want to

444
00:21:25.519 --> 00:21:27.079
<v Speaker 1>see this man. I don't want to be near this man.

445
00:21:27.319 --> 00:21:30.480
<v Speaker 2>No, but I have to be I need to be right.

446
00:21:30.519 --> 00:21:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't leave.

447
00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:33.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah, I'm so uncomfortable.

448
00:21:34.640 --> 00:21:38.720
<v Speaker 2>Surely they knew, like they're being paid for their caravan.

449
00:21:39.559 --> 00:21:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Surely the wife is quite switched on. Surely she'd have

450
00:21:42.359 --> 00:21:44.839
<v Speaker 2>told him like, remember this afternoon, they're turning up or whatever.

451
00:21:45.160 --> 00:21:48.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's the thing. He just doesn't care. Well, true,

452
00:21:48.599 --> 00:21:50.519
<v Speaker 1>he's very much of the thing like, this is my house.

453
00:21:50.599 --> 00:21:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to behave like I want. I'm going to

454
00:21:52.759 --> 00:21:54.880
<v Speaker 1>just do. I'm not going to change my routine for them.

455
00:21:55.039 --> 00:21:58.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, they're a strange couple.

456
00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:02.119
<v Speaker 2>They are. I don't see them how they work together. Really.

457
00:22:02.640 --> 00:22:05.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they don't really feel like they would be together.

458
00:22:06.160 --> 00:22:09.079
<v Speaker 2>No, And if anything, she comes more across as like

459
00:22:09.119 --> 00:22:12.559
<v Speaker 2>his mom than anything else. I don't buy that there

460
00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:15.359
<v Speaker 2>are a couple. I buy that they're almost like mother

461
00:22:15.400 --> 00:22:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and son or something like. Yeah, no, it's weird. It's

462
00:22:18.960 --> 00:22:22.279
<v Speaker 2>an odd family. I think that just sums it up, really,

463
00:22:22.640 --> 00:22:23.519
<v Speaker 2>just an odd family.

464
00:22:24.799 --> 00:22:27.160
<v Speaker 1>So I think what follows is probably for me my

465
00:22:27.240 --> 00:22:33.039
<v Speaker 1>favorite scene hm hm, basically Stan and James in the

466
00:22:33.039 --> 00:22:36.599
<v Speaker 1>living room area. Yeah, and the conversation they have, right

467
00:22:36.720 --> 00:22:44.480
<v Speaker 1>because James is so like, you can't read the room.

468
00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:43.880
<v Speaker 2>To Stan, it's struggling.

469
00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we get this whole thing about You're not a

470
00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:48.119
<v Speaker 1>real pig, are you? And it's like, no, I'm just

471
00:22:48.480 --> 00:22:49.160
<v Speaker 1>playing pig.

472
00:22:49.359 --> 00:22:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

473
00:22:52.559 --> 00:22:54.960
<v Speaker 1>And this whole thing about Bobby versus the Bobby.

474
00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's really trying to make a part out of this,

475
00:22:58.240 --> 00:23:00.279
<v Speaker 2>isn't he. Yes, he's not even got to know even

476
00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:00.720
<v Speaker 2>bless him.

477
00:23:00.960 --> 00:23:03.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Reminded me of the thing in Stage Fright, of

478
00:23:03.359 --> 00:23:06.039
<v Speaker 1>the guy who had the tiny part in the play

479
00:23:06.200 --> 00:23:10.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to pick it up. I just love this, this

480
00:23:10.359 --> 00:23:13.680
<v Speaker 1>clash of cultures with James trying to be all sort of,

481
00:23:13.960 --> 00:23:16.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, slightly high brown and talk about the hollow

482
00:23:16.039 --> 00:23:20.039
<v Speaker 1>crown Shakespeare's wore the Roses cycle, and the look on

483
00:23:20.079 --> 00:23:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Steve's face that he gives him, it was just like,

484
00:23:23.680 --> 00:23:26.039
<v Speaker 1>what the fuck are you talking about? You prick.

485
00:23:29.480 --> 00:23:31.359
<v Speaker 2>For James, he just doesn't have a clue, does He

486
00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:33.680
<v Speaker 2>just can't relate in any way.

487
00:23:34.240 --> 00:23:37.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then I tried to write down just just

488
00:23:37.400 --> 00:23:39.200
<v Speaker 1>one little bit that I loved, but I ended up

489
00:23:39.240 --> 00:23:41.720
<v Speaker 1>writing down the whole exchange because just like he's saying

490
00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.240
<v Speaker 1>about waiting around can be tiring, though, and he just

491
00:23:44.240 --> 00:23:48.480
<v Speaker 1>looks him, you fucking what. It's just more mentally draining

492
00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:51.640
<v Speaker 1>sat slump than having to jump into it. Sat slumps.

493
00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Wish my job were fucking sat slumps all day about

494
00:23:54.480 --> 00:23:56.559
<v Speaker 1>tarmac and the rolls and the freezing cold. Ah five

495
00:23:56.599 --> 00:23:59.119
<v Speaker 1>of the morning, mate. And then there's his pause and

496
00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:01.319
<v Speaker 1>then he's like, or we do Averly starts as well,

497
00:24:01.359 --> 00:24:02.839
<v Speaker 1>because they get you in for the breakfast before you

498
00:24:02.880 --> 00:24:08.319
<v Speaker 1>going for makeup. You're taking the piss. It's like the

499
00:24:08.359 --> 00:24:11.440
<v Speaker 1>worst thing you could have said. And he's like getting

500
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:14.119
<v Speaker 1>his hands dirty at half five Ontomac and the roads

501
00:24:14.160 --> 00:24:16.039
<v Speaker 1>and he's just like, well, you have to get up

502
00:24:16.079 --> 00:24:17.480
<v Speaker 1>early for the breakfast and the makeup.

503
00:24:18.119 --> 00:24:20.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it doesn't go well, does it. Yeah.

504
00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:24.920
<v Speaker 1>They're like the working class like clash with whatever. James

505
00:24:25.039 --> 00:24:30.160
<v Speaker 1>is like, yeah, it's it's painful, but it's very entertaining.

506
00:24:30.359 --> 00:24:33.799
<v Speaker 1>I think it's my favorite scenes. It's uncomfortable but very funny.

507
00:24:33.839 --> 00:24:35.559
<v Speaker 1>I was I was hooting with laughter at that bit.

508
00:24:37.319 --> 00:24:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to see the camp now I'm with laughter.

509
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:50.880
<v Speaker 1>They also discuss about what happened to baby Ryan all

510
00:24:50.880 --> 00:24:54.000
<v Speaker 1>that time ago, apparently, and the mum left him outside

511
00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:55.559
<v Speaker 1>of news agents for two minutes.

512
00:24:56.000 --> 00:24:58.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, which, why the fuck?

513
00:24:58.880 --> 00:24:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Why would you do that?

514
00:25:00.160 --> 00:25:02.240
<v Speaker 2>Nah, there's no excuse for that.

515
00:25:02.279 --> 00:25:06.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry there's not, but I feel like decades ago

516
00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:08.319
<v Speaker 1>it was probably quite common.

517
00:25:08.400 --> 00:25:11.440
<v Speaker 2>Well maybe twenty years ago. Yeah, maybe, but.

518
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:14.079
<v Speaker 1>It just goes to show the world's change, why you

519
00:25:14.119 --> 00:25:14.960
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't do that.

520
00:25:15.680 --> 00:25:18.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but the end of the day, babies are Small'll

521
00:25:18.079 --> 00:25:21.599
<v Speaker 2>bring it in with you. Yeah, even if you left

522
00:25:21.599 --> 00:25:23.680
<v Speaker 2>the proan outside, bring the baby in at.

523
00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Least, So he asks them about it, isn't it. Then

524
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:31.160
<v Speaker 1>there's there's well, clearly someone's lying, discrepancies about whether they

525
00:25:31.160 --> 00:25:32.160
<v Speaker 1>were living there at the time.

526
00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:36.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, things are adding up. Something's going on.

527
00:25:36.720 --> 00:25:39.240
<v Speaker 1>And then we're leading up to what might I'm guessing

528
00:25:39.319 --> 00:25:40.839
<v Speaker 1>might be another one of your favorite lines, or at

529
00:25:40.880 --> 00:25:41.839
<v Speaker 1>least line deliveries.

530
00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:43.279
<v Speaker 2>Oh, which have we got?

531
00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.279
<v Speaker 1>So Bev suggests that a dog took it. Oh yeah, yeah,

532
00:25:46.319 --> 00:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>it happened in Australia and the way the way, Steve says, yeah,

533
00:25:52.960 --> 00:25:57.039
<v Speaker 1>I've read it with three h's. Yeah that I love

534
00:25:57.079 --> 00:25:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that line delivery.

535
00:25:58.400 --> 00:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was the real story, I believe.

536
00:26:00.160 --> 00:26:02.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh it was the famously and didn't Meryl Street make

537
00:26:02.920 --> 00:26:03.440
<v Speaker 1>a film of it?

538
00:26:03.599 --> 00:26:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Did she?

539
00:26:04.319 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 1>I think so?

540
00:26:05.680 --> 00:26:06.839
<v Speaker 2>I didn't I took my baby?

541
00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there's in Buffy. One of the characters is

542
00:26:10.039 --> 00:26:12.880
<v Speaker 1>in a band called dingo'st My Baby.

543
00:26:13.839 --> 00:26:15.559
<v Speaker 2>How is it okay that we can laugh about this?

544
00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>We really should?

545
00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:17.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, it's not. We shouldn't be.

546
00:26:17.720 --> 00:26:23.599
<v Speaker 2>No, I think it's just such a silly word exactly. Yeah,

547
00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:28.039
<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm laughing at, Yes, genuinely, yes, but yes,

548
00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:29.519
<v Speaker 2>that was another line I written.

549
00:26:32.559 --> 00:26:34.720
<v Speaker 1>It is quite a funny episode, considering this so much

550
00:26:34.799 --> 00:26:35.880
<v Speaker 1>darkness to it.

551
00:26:35.880 --> 00:26:39.680
<v Speaker 2>It's very dark, but yeah, it's very funny, like on

552
00:26:39.720 --> 00:26:43.000
<v Speaker 2>the face of it, until we get further down the

553
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:48.519
<v Speaker 2>rabbit hole. So we get Joe back again and Adrian

554
00:26:48.640 --> 00:26:53.319
<v Speaker 2>Dunbar playing Adrian Dunbar, Yes, which is not exactly a

555
00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:56.839
<v Speaker 2>new thing, like, oh extras that kind of thing, isn't

556
00:26:56.839 --> 00:26:59.200
<v Speaker 2>it of people playing themselves but a bit of a dickhead.

557
00:26:59.440 --> 00:27:02.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's quite fun though when you see that.

558
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:05.079
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, it's enjoyable. I always wonder when they do

559
00:27:05.119 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 2>these things, how what the script said, Like when they

560
00:27:07.480 --> 00:27:10.920
<v Speaker 2>originally write the script, are they writing it for Adrian

561
00:27:10.960 --> 00:27:14.079
<v Speaker 2>Dunbar hoping it'll get him or is it written as

562
00:27:14.799 --> 00:27:17.039
<v Speaker 2>celebrity will make jokes up later depending on who we

563
00:27:17.079 --> 00:27:17.319
<v Speaker 2>can get.

564
00:27:17.400 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, in this case, apparently they weren't sure who they

565
00:27:20.680 --> 00:27:22.599
<v Speaker 1>were going to get. So they just wrote it generically

566
00:27:22.759 --> 00:27:25.279
<v Speaker 1>and they once they cast him, they sort of adapted

567
00:27:25.319 --> 00:27:29.160
<v Speaker 1>it around him. And obviously once they had him, obviously

568
00:27:29.160 --> 00:27:31.599
<v Speaker 1>they've then got a wealth of material with the Line

569
00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>of Duty stuff that they can reference. So that was

570
00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:35.000
<v Speaker 1>quite handy.

571
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it was liven. It was that its hype

572
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.920
<v Speaker 2>back then. Yeah, it was a very good catch for them.

573
00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.519
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I can understand like the whole playing an

574
00:27:44.519 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>asshole version of yourself, because if you just played like

575
00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:49.160
<v Speaker 1>a more realistic version of stuff, it wouldn't be that interesting.

576
00:27:49.319 --> 00:27:53.640
<v Speaker 2>No, it's more fun to do that exactly. Yeah, he

577
00:27:54.559 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 2>is awful.

578
00:27:55.640 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 1>He is. He's really awful. I wonder if he does

579
00:28:00.359 --> 00:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>what he does to James purely because he makes that

580
00:28:03.039 --> 00:28:06.440
<v Speaker 1>comment about playing another policeman. I wondered this his way

581
00:28:06.440 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>of getting back at him.

582
00:28:07.519 --> 00:28:10.599
<v Speaker 2>I imagine it probably is. I don't think he would

583
00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:13.720
<v Speaker 2>have done that otherwise, Yeah, because yeah, because I mean

584
00:28:13.759 --> 00:28:16.319
<v Speaker 2>he's a big enough factory. It's not like he's scrabbling

585
00:28:16.400 --> 00:28:20.559
<v Speaker 2>for lines, Like surely he doesn't really care either way.

586
00:28:21.119 --> 00:28:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Who knows, Yeah, I assume it's that way around there.

587
00:28:24.279 --> 00:28:27.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably, But yeah, the way he's like so offended,

588
00:28:27.839 --> 00:28:30.519
<v Speaker 1>like I'm playing him totally differently to.

589
00:28:31.839 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Chalk and Cheese. It's totally different.

590
00:28:37.359 --> 00:28:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Was it one of them swept to the side, yeah's.

591
00:28:41.680 --> 00:28:44.000
<v Speaker 2>Got a side parting. This guy's totally swept back.

592
00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I also love how during that whole scene, Steve's

593
00:28:48.039 --> 00:28:50.839
<v Speaker 1>just sitting there enjoying it, throwing in the odd little

594
00:28:50.839 --> 00:28:53.279
<v Speaker 1>comment put your foot in there.

595
00:28:53.279 --> 00:28:55.359
<v Speaker 2>Didn't you staring where he can?

596
00:28:55.559 --> 00:28:58.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It reminds me of like Satler and Waldorf, like

597
00:28:58.920 --> 00:29:01.839
<v Speaker 1>just making unhelpful comments.

598
00:29:02.680 --> 00:29:03.599
<v Speaker 2>Just keep the drama going.

599
00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.519
<v Speaker 1>Beckling. Yeah. We also when Joe brought him in as

600
00:29:07.519 --> 00:29:09.680
<v Speaker 1>well as another one of her rude comments was just

601
00:29:09.720 --> 00:29:17.160
<v Speaker 1>like sorry, it's so small and dingyingy, it's so awful,

602
00:29:17.440 --> 00:29:20.119
<v Speaker 1>so rude. They're like, they're not treated like human beings.

603
00:29:20.319 --> 00:29:24.119
<v Speaker 2>No, no, not remotely. At the end of the day,

604
00:29:24.160 --> 00:29:26.559
<v Speaker 2>this is their home. It's not even like they've rented

605
00:29:26.559 --> 00:29:30.480
<v Speaker 2>out an office or something. Yeah, it's their home, like

606
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:31.839
<v Speaker 2>you know, if they've booked out a B and B

607
00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:37.480
<v Speaker 2>or whatever. Yeah. But while we're on Ted's hair, if

608
00:29:37.519 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>you notice when you get a bit at the end

609
00:29:39.160 --> 00:29:41.759
<v Speaker 2>where it's from the actual shoot and his hair is

610
00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:44.359
<v Speaker 2>parted on the right, he is exactly the same.

611
00:29:45.599 --> 00:29:47.400
<v Speaker 1>That's a nice little joke. I hadn't noticed that.

612
00:29:47.640 --> 00:29:50.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it's so subtly different anyway.

613
00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, there's a funny joke anyway, isn't it The

614
00:29:53.920 --> 00:29:56.039
<v Speaker 1>fact that the difference of the character is the hair

615
00:29:56.200 --> 00:29:59.880
<v Speaker 1>is just yeah, it all comes down to the hair.

616
00:30:01.240 --> 00:30:02.839
<v Speaker 2>I don't think you have a watch line of duty.

617
00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:05.279
<v Speaker 1>I've not known. It's just one of those things, like you.

618
00:30:05.240 --> 00:30:06.920
<v Speaker 2>Know, they are very similar characters.

619
00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:10.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sometimes when something's so popular, it's just a bit

620
00:30:10.559 --> 00:30:12.720
<v Speaker 1>like everyone's watching that, so I don't really want to

621
00:30:12.720 --> 00:30:14.599
<v Speaker 1>watch it.

622
00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.680
<v Speaker 2>It was really good, but yeah, I know exactly what

623
00:30:17.720 --> 00:30:17.960
<v Speaker 2>you mean.

624
00:30:18.279 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

625
00:30:18.480 --> 00:30:20.160
<v Speaker 2>I call it the slum dog millionaire effect.

626
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.839
<v Speaker 1>Yes, Ben suffers from it a million times more than me,

627
00:30:24.960 --> 00:30:27.519
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you that, right. Yeah, it's like as soon

628
00:30:27.559 --> 00:30:30.759
<v Speaker 1>as someone suggests something, he's like, nope, no interested.

629
00:30:31.519 --> 00:30:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Not even does well one person liked.

630
00:30:33.200 --> 00:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>It, Yeah, so they have their little let's have a

631
00:30:37.720 --> 00:30:38.359
<v Speaker 1>look at the scene.

632
00:30:38.519 --> 00:30:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and James actually has got quite a few lines.

633
00:30:42.440 --> 00:30:44.720
<v Speaker 2>I remember thinking you only had like a line and

634
00:30:44.759 --> 00:30:46.200
<v Speaker 2>he was bigging his power up so much. But he

635
00:30:46.240 --> 00:30:47.119
<v Speaker 2>actually does have quite.

636
00:30:46.960 --> 00:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>A bit to say, he's got three lines.

637
00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:52.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but not if Adrian's got anything to say about it. No.

638
00:30:53.759 --> 00:30:56.839
<v Speaker 1>The thing is, though, in a way, I think Adrian's right,

639
00:30:57.000 --> 00:31:00.160
<v Speaker 1>like scene does work better the way he suggests it

640
00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>probably does, but you know, obviously they have to put

641
00:31:02.960 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>it that way to you know, to make him seem

642
00:31:04.599 --> 00:31:07.079
<v Speaker 1>like an asshole for the humor of it. But yeah,

643
00:31:07.359 --> 00:31:09.440
<v Speaker 1>because why would we care about what this what this

644
00:31:09.720 --> 00:31:11.799
<v Speaker 1>policeman has to say, like we would we would be

645
00:31:11.839 --> 00:31:13.559
<v Speaker 1>more interested in the main character, I think so.

646
00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:16.039
<v Speaker 2>I suppose. But if you've got a main character who

647
00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:18.119
<v Speaker 2>obviously he's the main character in this, if all of

648
00:31:18.519 --> 00:31:21.039
<v Speaker 2>you could argue that for every part, like we're only

649
00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:23.119
<v Speaker 2>really interested in what his opinion on something is, so

650
00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.200
<v Speaker 2>like before you know what happens, it's a one person show,

651
00:31:25.559 --> 00:31:27.319
<v Speaker 2>like like where do you stop?

652
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:31.640
<v Speaker 1>I just felt like Reese's lines were quite sort of overwritten.

653
00:31:32.200 --> 00:31:32.559
<v Speaker 2>M hm.

654
00:31:32.960 --> 00:31:35.720
<v Speaker 1>Obviously you know they're there to be something for him

655
00:31:35.759 --> 00:31:38.480
<v Speaker 1>to lose. Yeah, but you know, if if that was

656
00:31:38.519 --> 00:31:40.519
<v Speaker 1>the real script, I feel like his part would be

657
00:31:40.559 --> 00:31:43.000
<v Speaker 1>a bit unnecessarily big.

658
00:31:46.240 --> 00:31:47.480
<v Speaker 2>That laugh for James's big part.

659
00:31:49.960 --> 00:31:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just love the way, you know, all this

660
00:31:52.000 --> 00:31:55.279
<v Speaker 1>acting wankery about you know, there was real emotion in

661
00:31:55.319 --> 00:31:58.000
<v Speaker 1>that last line isn't there. And then when they run

662
00:31:58.039 --> 00:31:59.799
<v Speaker 1>it and he just says the last line anyway, and

663
00:32:00.039 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and Reese is like, well, yeah, you swapped the line,

664
00:32:02.519 --> 00:32:03.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't you, so that you said the last line and

665
00:32:03.960 --> 00:32:06.400
<v Speaker 1>he pretends he didn't even notice. I did, deny.

666
00:32:07.319 --> 00:32:10.160
<v Speaker 2>It's even worse. He said, we did, didn't we? Oh yeah,

667
00:32:10.680 --> 00:32:12.599
<v Speaker 2>as if it was a joint decision that they should

668
00:32:12.640 --> 00:32:12.799
<v Speaker 2>do that.

669
00:32:13.559 --> 00:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thing is we laugh. But I'm sure stuff like

670
00:32:17.200 --> 00:32:20.880
<v Speaker 1>this happens. You know, the stars. There probably are some

671
00:32:20.960 --> 00:32:24.519
<v Speaker 1>who probably essentially bully their way around and get what

672
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.160
<v Speaker 1>they want, you know. I mean he might be you know,

673
00:32:27.279 --> 00:32:29.960
<v Speaker 1>maybe Adrian's like an executive producer on this drama or

674
00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:31.000
<v Speaker 1>something as well.

675
00:32:31.000 --> 00:32:36.079
<v Speaker 2>Probably, but still, yeah, we whittled poor little James's lines down.

676
00:32:35.960 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 1>To yes, yeah, the sad little way when he's gone

677
00:32:38.799 --> 00:32:40.559
<v Speaker 1>and he just has to run his lines again and

678
00:32:40.599 --> 00:32:48.519
<v Speaker 1>it's just that one word, he just goes yes. So

679
00:32:49.759 --> 00:32:52.279
<v Speaker 1>this is where we get the information that it would

680
00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:55.759
<v Speaker 1>have been Ryan's birthday today, and that is what sort

681
00:32:55.759 --> 00:33:00.640
<v Speaker 1>of triggers James to the cogs to start going around. Yeah,

682
00:33:00.680 --> 00:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>and he starts to put two and two together and

683
00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:03.359
<v Speaker 1>make five.

684
00:33:03.759 --> 00:33:10.079
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, at least five may nine nine nine.

685
00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:12.119
<v Speaker 1>And we also we had that line earlier that he

686
00:33:12.480 --> 00:33:14.759
<v Speaker 1>always wanted to be a detective when he was younger. Yes,

687
00:33:14.839 --> 00:33:17.160
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, and now he's getting to sort of put

688
00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.440
<v Speaker 1>his deer stalker on and get his magnifying glass out.

689
00:33:19.440 --> 00:33:22.000
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, it's what I imagine a lot of people

690
00:33:22.000 --> 00:33:22.960
<v Speaker 2>are thinking at this point.

691
00:33:23.400 --> 00:33:24.279
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, exactly.

692
00:33:24.680 --> 00:33:26.880
<v Speaker 2>We've sort of laid the groundwork for a lot of it.

693
00:33:27.359 --> 00:33:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Yes, but I think you know, if it's looking obviously

694
00:33:30.519 --> 00:33:32.720
<v Speaker 1>like it's going in that way, it's never going that

695
00:33:32.720 --> 00:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>way usually not.

696
00:33:34.079 --> 00:33:37.279
<v Speaker 2>No. Yeah, there's not many where you where you can

697
00:33:37.319 --> 00:33:38.759
<v Speaker 2>tell so too obviously.

698
00:33:39.119 --> 00:33:43.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know. I mean, I find it quite disappointing,

699
00:33:43.160 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 1>to be fair, when you find out that he wasn't right,

700
00:33:45.160 --> 00:33:49.119
<v Speaker 1>because it does feel like quite a juicy twist for

701
00:33:49.200 --> 00:33:49.640
<v Speaker 1>it to be that.

702
00:33:50.000 --> 00:33:50.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

703
00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:52.599
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I don't know, I don't know.

704
00:33:52.799 --> 00:33:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's juicy, but yes, it's obvious at the same time,

705
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:56.720
<v Speaker 2>like it's the obvious story to tell.

706
00:33:57.319 --> 00:33:59.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So yeah, the clues like the Man in the

707
00:34:00.039 --> 00:34:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Red tracks to the hair removal cream, the.

708
00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>Man in the Red trope. So it's the implication that

709
00:34:04.839 --> 00:34:07.640
<v Speaker 2>Stan has only one pair of clothes, like one set

710
00:34:07.680 --> 00:34:11.039
<v Speaker 2>of clothes that twenty years ago'd been wearing that same thing.

711
00:34:12.119 --> 00:34:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Apparently, Yeah, I suppose. I don't know. I doesn't say.

712
00:34:16.880 --> 00:34:20.159
<v Speaker 1>It's red tracksic quite an uncommon thing. I don't know,

713
00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:20.519
<v Speaker 1>maybe not.

714
00:34:21.000 --> 00:34:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Track sis are quite common up North,

715
00:34:22.599 --> 00:34:23.239
<v Speaker 2>at least.

716
00:34:24.039 --> 00:34:25.000
<v Speaker 1>In a range of colors.

717
00:34:26.000 --> 00:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>That's it.

718
00:34:26.320 --> 00:34:29.440
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, It doesn't matter because it turns out he's wrong anyway,

719
00:34:29.480 --> 00:34:34.000
<v Speaker 1>So he's just leaping to conclusions. So yeah, so he

720
00:34:34.079 --> 00:34:38.000
<v Speaker 1>comes to the conclusion that they stole baby Ryan, yeah,

721
00:34:38.039 --> 00:34:41.800
<v Speaker 1>and raised him as Bev. What's her name, Bev? Yeah,

722
00:34:44.639 --> 00:34:47.440
<v Speaker 1>So he tries, so what why does he go to

723
00:34:47.559 --> 00:34:51.079
<v Speaker 1>Joe the Runner to tell her? Of all people? I know,

724
00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:53.719
<v Speaker 1>it's because she's the character that we've got. Yeah, we

725
00:34:53.760 --> 00:34:56.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have anyone else, But like, what's she going to do?

726
00:34:56.800 --> 00:34:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I guess maybe he doesn't have his phone and he's thinking,

727
00:34:59.400 --> 00:35:01.519
<v Speaker 2>you go call the police. I'll keep these people here.

728
00:35:01.719 --> 00:35:03.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, maybe.

729
00:35:02.920 --> 00:35:05.599
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. Well, he's probably because he's he wants

730
00:35:05.639 --> 00:35:07.559
<v Speaker 2>to be he said he wants to be detective. But

731
00:35:07.719 --> 00:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>him being a detective is probably based on ITV dramas,

732
00:35:10.559 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 2>and that's how an ITV drama would work, Like it

733
00:35:13.519 --> 00:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>would be resolved in the caravan, like it wouldn't be.

734
00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:17.800
<v Speaker 2>The police would be called, they'd go off and get

735
00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.079
<v Speaker 2>interrogated like a poiro You would do it there. And

736
00:35:21.119 --> 00:35:25.119
<v Speaker 2>then yes, he wants his moment of accusing them.

737
00:35:24.920 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yeah, boy does he. Yeah, but Joe as ever infuriating.

738
00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.199
<v Speaker 1>You think she's you think she's responding to him, but

739
00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:37.559
<v Speaker 1>actually she's responding to the earpiece.

740
00:35:38.119 --> 00:35:40.639
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. God, she's awful, she is.

741
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:41.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

742
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:43.960
<v Speaker 2>So he gives up and he'll sort it out himself.

743
00:35:44.719 --> 00:35:47.440
<v Speaker 2>So he goes to find Bev. She's playing with the

744
00:35:47.480 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>dolls in her room.

745
00:35:48.840 --> 00:35:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's quite the collection.

746
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:54.239
<v Speaker 2>Quite the collection. We'll come back to that. And he's

747
00:35:54.280 --> 00:35:56.719
<v Speaker 2>wanting pictures of as a baby. Are guessing to prove

748
00:35:56.760 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>that it's Ryan mm.

749
00:35:59.119 --> 00:36:01.079
<v Speaker 1>And it all points when she says, oh my dad

750
00:36:01.079 --> 00:36:02.800
<v Speaker 1>doesn't let me get in the album out.

751
00:36:03.079 --> 00:36:06.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's I mean every clue is there saying.

752
00:36:06.519 --> 00:36:07.719
<v Speaker 1>That he's on the right lines.

753
00:36:07.800 --> 00:36:11.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even ones that you wouldn't think that aren't really

754
00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.159
<v Speaker 2>very obvious that you might think, oh, I'm clever, I

755
00:36:13.159 --> 00:36:15.559
<v Speaker 2>spotted that, but they still don't.

756
00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:19.079
<v Speaker 1>Work, like, yeah, it's a lot of coincidences, yea.

757
00:36:20.639 --> 00:36:24.639
<v Speaker 2>And then the killer clue being the blanket that apparently

758
00:36:24.719 --> 00:36:27.480
<v Speaker 2>Ryan went missing in. Yeah, even to the point where

759
00:36:27.480 --> 00:36:29.280
<v Speaker 2>it's nicely folded over in the right.

760
00:36:29.280 --> 00:36:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Place to obscure his name so he can reveal it cerical.

761
00:36:32.880 --> 00:36:36.960
<v Speaker 2>In dramatic fashion. Yeah. Inside his head, he must be like,

762
00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, party popper is going off and like confetti

763
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:43.960
<v Speaker 2>and yeah, he's thinking that he's going to get hailed

764
00:36:43.960 --> 00:36:49.039
<v Speaker 2>as a hero here. Yeah, not so much. No, they

765
00:36:49.039 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>find out all of this isn't isn't real? Like everything's

766
00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:55.880
<v Speaker 2>got a pretty much innocent explanation. Yeah, the blanket's just

767
00:36:55.920 --> 00:36:58.880
<v Speaker 2>a prop from the TV series. Yeah, the moment dad

768
00:36:58.880 --> 00:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>of being suspicious because he's been working while he's been claiming, yeah,

769
00:37:03.440 --> 00:37:06.840
<v Speaker 2>claiming disability. She's going to have hair removal cream because

770
00:37:06.880 --> 00:37:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the family are all quite downy or whatever she said

771
00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:16.039
<v Speaker 2>the way she pronounces it, culminating in her ripping off,

772
00:37:16.039 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>her ripping and opening her dressing.

773
00:37:18.039 --> 00:37:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Gown of course, because yeah, why not.

774
00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:24.000
<v Speaker 2>At this point, it's.

775
00:37:23.920 --> 00:37:24.920
<v Speaker 1>Quite a moment, isn't it.

776
00:37:25.280 --> 00:37:25.400
<v Speaker 2>Hm.

777
00:37:27.199 --> 00:37:30.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, how awful must he feel when, Yeah, he

778
00:37:30.039 --> 00:37:31.639
<v Speaker 1>realizes in that moment that he's wrong.

779
00:37:32.199 --> 00:37:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then stanby Stan and him in the face

780
00:37:36.920 --> 00:37:37.360
<v Speaker 2>of course he does.

781
00:37:37.400 --> 00:37:39.679
<v Speaker 1>I mean I don't blame him, No, I don't at

782
00:37:39.679 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 1>that point, just slight tangent, but that that moment just

783
00:37:43.519 --> 00:37:46.079
<v Speaker 1>always reminds me of them. So years ago, I was

784
00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:49.079
<v Speaker 1>in a play. There was this guy in it, my

785
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:51.519
<v Speaker 1>friend Nick, and he was wearing a dressing gown and

786
00:37:51.559 --> 00:37:54.119
<v Speaker 1>at a certain point in the play he had to

787
00:37:54.159 --> 00:37:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like to like flash his bum at me. Okay, don't ask.

788
00:37:57.880 --> 00:38:00.360
<v Speaker 1>It was a very strange player, but yeah, so he

789
00:38:00.519 --> 00:38:03.280
<v Speaker 1>just like lifted up, like what and I think it

790
00:38:03.320 --> 00:38:07.199
<v Speaker 1>was quite a similar dressing gown actually, like pink and bluffy. Yeah, so,

791
00:38:07.360 --> 00:38:09.199
<v Speaker 1>like just watching this scene, just like all I can

792
00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:11.880
<v Speaker 1>think is just I just remember Nick lifting his dressing

793
00:38:11.920 --> 00:38:15.159
<v Speaker 1>room a dressing gown. Sorry, it's just all I can

794
00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:22.000
<v Speaker 1>think of. Oh dear, see it on my memory. AnyWho.

795
00:38:22.639 --> 00:38:24.559
<v Speaker 1>And then, of course if that wasn't what bad enough,

796
00:38:24.719 --> 00:38:28.559
<v Speaker 1>agent comes in and takes away his final line. You

797
00:38:28.599 --> 00:38:30.480
<v Speaker 1>know you can do that with a nod, with a nod.

798
00:38:32.599 --> 00:38:35.920
<v Speaker 1>And then we jump forward in time. Ye have many

799
00:38:35.920 --> 00:38:37.559
<v Speaker 1>months it takes before it airs.

800
00:38:37.800 --> 00:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Episode one's going out or getting his James's big moment.

801
00:38:41.440 --> 00:38:43.719
<v Speaker 2>He's not even got his face in the camera, like yeah,

802
00:38:43.840 --> 00:38:44.599
<v Speaker 2>back of his head.

803
00:38:45.599 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 1>It's very Mike Wazowski. I was thinking, I don't believe it.

804
00:38:52.039 --> 00:38:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm on TV.

805
00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.000
<v Speaker 2>You see the thing. Just thinking on that for a

806
00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:01.800
<v Speaker 2>second of whenever you months, I think on DVD in

807
00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:03.599
<v Speaker 2>like in a shop, they always put the price.

808
00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:12.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I love the commitment, like an accepted Yeah. Good

809
00:39:12.719 --> 00:39:15.199
<v Speaker 1>DVDs were showing our age.

810
00:39:16.159 --> 00:39:17.599
<v Speaker 2>I got rid of all the mine I took them.

811
00:39:17.679 --> 00:39:20.000
<v Speaker 2>I took an entire shelf to see X of about

812
00:39:20.000 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 2>fifty dvdst most of them worth a penny and I

813
00:39:23.079 --> 00:39:27.639
<v Speaker 2>about four quid. Wow, it was amazing. I just produced

814
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:29.400
<v Speaker 2>this massive bag and you could see this woman's face.

815
00:39:29.400 --> 00:39:31.920
<v Speaker 2>Fall knew she's gonna be there for the next twenty

816
00:39:31.960 --> 00:39:35.239
<v Speaker 2>minutes pricing all this up. It's gonna be worth about

817
00:39:35.239 --> 00:39:39.519
<v Speaker 2>three quid. But yes, So we are watching this, this

818
00:39:39.599 --> 00:39:43.199
<v Speaker 2>last scene and Adrian's doing his best getting his little

819
00:39:43.199 --> 00:39:43.679
<v Speaker 2>tear out.

820
00:39:44.199 --> 00:39:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, so dramatic.

821
00:39:46.920 --> 00:39:49.800
<v Speaker 2>James just gets his little nod, turns around. He's got

822
00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:50.800
<v Speaker 2>a massive black eye.

823
00:39:51.360 --> 00:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>Of course he does. I mean, as if they'd keep

824
00:39:53.960 --> 00:39:56.679
<v Speaker 1>that in, Yeah, surely they just cut there.

825
00:39:57.159 --> 00:40:02.519
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, has well, I would say that. But is Adrian

826
00:40:02.679 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>still pissed off? And he's like, no, keep that in.

827
00:40:05.679 --> 00:40:07.159
<v Speaker 2>We're really fucked this guy over.

828
00:40:07.599 --> 00:40:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he'll never work again, saying.

829
00:40:12.519 --> 00:40:18.280
<v Speaker 2>I can only play one role. Yeah, yeah, implication that

830
00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:22.800
<v Speaker 2>it was all just a misunderstanding. Yeah, like nothing actually

831
00:40:22.800 --> 00:40:23.280
<v Speaker 2>was going on?

832
00:40:23.519 --> 00:40:25.360
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, or was it?

833
00:40:26.719 --> 00:40:28.719
<v Speaker 2>Because they're complaining that, you know, they can't do anything

834
00:40:28.719 --> 00:40:30.960
<v Speaker 2>exciting because they can't change it. It's a real story,

835
00:40:31.719 --> 00:40:33.239
<v Speaker 2>but it's not got an ending because no one knows

836
00:40:33.280 --> 00:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>what happens. And the Bev's like, no, no one knows

837
00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>what happens and looks down and we find that baby

838
00:40:41.079 --> 00:40:45.480
<v Speaker 2>Ryan is secreted inside her doll she's been carrying around

839
00:40:45.519 --> 00:40:50.320
<v Speaker 2>the whole episode, in an incredibly dark twist that comes

840
00:40:50.360 --> 00:40:51.360
<v Speaker 2>out of nowhere at the end.

841
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:55.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's what an image, isn't it? That skeleton hand?

842
00:40:55.880 --> 00:40:58.280
<v Speaker 2>It is, Although I can't look at it and not

843
00:40:58.960 --> 00:41:01.480
<v Speaker 2>laugh in a way, I know what you mean because

844
00:41:01.519 --> 00:41:04.280
<v Speaker 2>it looks so like a prop skeleton that've got from

845
00:41:04.559 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>a joke shop.

846
00:41:05.320 --> 00:41:06.360
<v Speaker 1>It does. It does.

847
00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I've been trying to rationalize this in my head because

848
00:41:10.119 --> 00:41:13.519
<v Speaker 2>it's twenty years this thing will have rotted away to nothing.

849
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:17.360
<v Speaker 2>The hand wouldn't hold together, it would just fall to bits. Yeah,

850
00:41:17.400 --> 00:41:19.800
<v Speaker 2>it would just be bones. So all I can imagine

851
00:41:19.840 --> 00:41:23.159
<v Speaker 2>is that she's like got some glue and stuck it

852
00:41:23.199 --> 00:41:23.639
<v Speaker 2>back together.

853
00:41:23.760 --> 00:41:24.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she keeps fixing it.

854
00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's the only way I can rationalize this. I'd

855
00:41:28.519 --> 00:41:30.239
<v Speaker 2>preferred if it was you know, the hair was coming

856
00:41:30.280 --> 00:41:32.440
<v Speaker 2>away a bit on the doll's head and you could

857
00:41:32.440 --> 00:41:34.840
<v Speaker 2>see that it was a skull inside. Oh, would have

858
00:41:34.840 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 2>been better. Yeah, something like that.

859
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:39.159
<v Speaker 1>I think that might have been quite hard to make

860
00:41:39.360 --> 00:41:40.920
<v Speaker 1>clear what exactly it was.

861
00:41:40.960 --> 00:41:43.440
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, when you'd had to have her open it

862
00:41:43.559 --> 00:41:45.760
<v Speaker 2>or something, I suppose you'd have done something really dark

863
00:41:45.800 --> 00:41:48.239
<v Speaker 2>of her opening and kissing it or something. Yeah, or

864
00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:50.920
<v Speaker 2>something weird like that. But it just takes me out

865
00:41:50.920 --> 00:41:53.679
<v Speaker 2>of it so much, this weird hand. Okay, it's clearly plastic.

866
00:41:54.280 --> 00:41:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, true. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about

867
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:01.400
<v Speaker 1>this twist. No, A bit like I don't really get it.

868
00:42:01.480 --> 00:42:04.079
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I know she's you know, she's got mental

869
00:42:04.079 --> 00:42:06.719
<v Speaker 1>health as they call it, but like, you know, why

870
00:42:06.960 --> 00:42:09.199
<v Speaker 1>why is she stolen a baby and kept it for

871
00:42:09.199 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 1>all this time?

872
00:42:10.559 --> 00:42:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Well? I took it as that her parents are very overprotective.

873
00:42:13.480 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 2>They don't let her go out. She's not got any friends. Yeah,

874
00:42:17.440 --> 00:42:20.920
<v Speaker 2>she's quite like infantile. She like a lot younger than

875
00:42:20.920 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>she is Yes, so maybe when she was like ten,

876
00:42:24.280 --> 00:42:26.079
<v Speaker 2>she was even you know, she thought of herself as

877
00:42:26.079 --> 00:42:29.440
<v Speaker 2>a child, very young child. She saw this baby that'll

878
00:42:29.440 --> 00:42:32.000
<v Speaker 2>be my friend and took it home. Yeah, and then

879
00:42:32.039 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 2>it died because obviously it would because she wouldn't have

880
00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:37.960
<v Speaker 2>to care for it, and she just kept it a secret.

881
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't I can't decide whether I think that her

882
00:42:40.440 --> 00:42:41.199
<v Speaker 2>parents know or not.

883
00:42:41.400 --> 00:42:42.320
<v Speaker 1>That's what I was going to ask.

884
00:42:42.440 --> 00:42:47.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't think they do, no, because it's the

885
00:42:47.119 --> 00:42:49.639
<v Speaker 2>way that Una very much says we don't know what happened.

886
00:42:50.519 --> 00:42:53.480
<v Speaker 2>Believably to me. Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like I can

887
00:42:53.559 --> 00:42:56.400
<v Speaker 2>understand her saying not wanting to say out loud where

888
00:42:56.400 --> 00:42:58.679
<v Speaker 2>you took the baby, but she just said something a

889
00:42:58.719 --> 00:43:01.519
<v Speaker 2>bit more cryptic of well, they're probably never going to

890
00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:03.119
<v Speaker 2>know what happened or exactly.

891
00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I think it is. It's only Bev who knows,

892
00:43:06.480 --> 00:43:09.760
<v Speaker 1>I think. Yeah, but she seems quite you know, she

893
00:43:09.760 --> 00:43:12.079
<v Speaker 1>does quite a malicious little smile at the end of

894
00:43:12.519 --> 00:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>evil little smile.

895
00:43:14.079 --> 00:43:15.039
<v Speaker 2>She knows what she's done.

896
00:43:15.360 --> 00:43:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very weird and there is something to be

897
00:43:19.360 --> 00:43:22.480
<v Speaker 1>said about I know there have been complaints about you

898
00:43:22.519 --> 00:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>know how a lot of episodes of this show have

899
00:43:25.239 --> 00:43:28.480
<v Speaker 1>people who have mental health issues who murder someone just

900
00:43:28.840 --> 00:43:32.400
<v Speaker 1>for no reason, yeah, or whatever, And I'm like, yeah,

901
00:43:32.440 --> 00:43:33.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's tricky one.

902
00:43:33.639 --> 00:43:34.280
<v Speaker 2>I can see that.

903
00:43:34.760 --> 00:43:36.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because at the end of the day, you could

904
00:43:36.880 --> 00:43:40.159
<v Speaker 1>argue that anyone who murders someone is not mentally.

905
00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:43.800
<v Speaker 2>Well, no, I don't think she murdered the child. Well,

906
00:43:43.920 --> 00:43:46.719
<v Speaker 2>I think she was probably a little like naive kid

907
00:43:46.920 --> 00:43:48.039
<v Speaker 2>took the child.

908
00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:50.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, hid it. Yeah, it wasn't intentional in.

909
00:43:50.519 --> 00:43:52.800
<v Speaker 2>The same way that a kid might take a snail

910
00:43:52.920 --> 00:43:55.280
<v Speaker 2>or something and put it in a jar. Yeah, like

911
00:43:55.400 --> 00:43:57.079
<v Speaker 2>the same sort of thing and then wonder why it

912
00:43:57.119 --> 00:43:58.000
<v Speaker 2>died in three days.

913
00:43:58.360 --> 00:44:00.599
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Yeah, sir, I shouldn't you usse weren't murder in

914
00:44:00.599 --> 00:44:03.400
<v Speaker 1>that sense, but comes to the same effect at the

915
00:44:03.440 --> 00:44:03.800
<v Speaker 1>end of the day.

916
00:44:04.480 --> 00:44:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But the more grim thing is the amount of

917
00:44:07.880 --> 00:44:11.880
<v Speaker 2>dolls she's got. M Is this the only child she's taken?

918
00:44:12.599 --> 00:44:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Are they all or many of them?

919
00:44:14.400 --> 00:44:16.639
<v Speaker 2>Could more than one of them have? Yeah? And she

920
00:44:16.800 --> 00:44:19.199
<v Speaker 2>just she's carrying this one around today because it's its birthday.

921
00:44:20.199 --> 00:44:21.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

922
00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:24.679
<v Speaker 2>I like to think not because this is a big

923
00:44:25.159 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 2>like they're making a TV drama about it. It was

924
00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:29.760
<v Speaker 2>a big deal. This child went missing. If lots of

925
00:44:29.840 --> 00:44:31.920
<v Speaker 2>children had gone missing, it would be that would have

926
00:44:31.920 --> 00:44:34.800
<v Speaker 2>been said. Yeah, they're just talking about one child that

927
00:44:34.840 --> 00:44:39.320
<v Speaker 2>went missing, unless they've moved a lot and they do know,

928
00:44:39.519 --> 00:44:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and she has taken children all over the place. Yeah,

929
00:44:42.320 --> 00:44:45.360
<v Speaker 2>keep an eye only child maybe would be better. But

930
00:44:45.599 --> 00:44:46.559
<v Speaker 2>to Uner and.

931
00:44:46.480 --> 00:44:49.079
<v Speaker 1>Stan, I mean, I think maybe maybe she's just always

932
00:44:49.199 --> 00:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>liked dolls and then seeing this baby left alone, she

933
00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:55.559
<v Speaker 1>thought it was another doll maybe that she could take,

934
00:44:55.639 --> 00:44:58.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know, yeah, so it's just that's just that

935
00:44:59.119 --> 00:45:00.000
<v Speaker 1>that's her special one.

936
00:45:00.679 --> 00:45:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Maybe I like to hope that that's the letter

937
00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:04.320
<v Speaker 2>of all of the evil.

938
00:45:06.000 --> 00:45:08.320
<v Speaker 1>As well, Like on a rewatch when you know the twist.

939
00:45:09.360 --> 00:45:12.280
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting to see her holding that doll the whole

940
00:45:12.280 --> 00:45:14.039
<v Speaker 1>time and the way the sleeve is just covering that

941
00:45:14.159 --> 00:45:14.719
<v Speaker 1>arm arm.

942
00:45:14.800 --> 00:45:18.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, she does hold it very lovingly throughout the episode.

943
00:45:18.119 --> 00:45:20.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not like how a child would hold a doll

944
00:45:20.039 --> 00:45:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of just holding it by your hand, down by your side,

945
00:45:22.199 --> 00:45:23.679
<v Speaker 2>just dragging it along the floor kind of thing.

946
00:45:23.760 --> 00:45:24.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a lot of effect.

947
00:45:24.840 --> 00:45:27.440
<v Speaker 2>She does really treat it affectionately. Yeah.

948
00:45:28.599 --> 00:45:30.400
<v Speaker 1>Creepy though, oh, very creepy.

949
00:45:31.360 --> 00:45:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know for keeping this a secret for

950
00:45:33.039 --> 00:45:33.719
<v Speaker 2>twenty years though.

951
00:45:34.039 --> 00:45:37.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know how she's managed that. And when

952
00:45:37.679 --> 00:45:40.199
<v Speaker 1>they commented about how the place smells, I'm not surprised.

953
00:45:40.559 --> 00:45:47.519
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, growth, m m, well that's a fun one people.

954
00:45:48.039 --> 00:45:52.079
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what are we going to give it? Out of nine?

955
00:45:52.559 --> 00:45:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Mmm? I'm thinking of five.

956
00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:56.519
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

957
00:45:57.119 --> 00:45:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I'm being too generous. I do

958
00:45:59.280 --> 00:46:01.280
<v Speaker 2>enjoy it. It's fun, it is. I think it has

959
00:46:01.320 --> 00:46:03.760
<v Speaker 2>a decent twist. I like that it's sort of a

960
00:46:03.760 --> 00:46:06.480
<v Speaker 2>fake out twist as well, and like the fact that

961
00:46:06.480 --> 00:46:08.679
<v Speaker 2>it's literally in the last sort of ten seconds of

962
00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:11.719
<v Speaker 2>the episode of that that you find out when you

963
00:46:11.800 --> 00:46:13.679
<v Speaker 2>think that there isn't one, and like the whole twist

964
00:46:13.840 --> 00:46:14.639
<v Speaker 2>was that there wasn't a twist.

965
00:46:14.960 --> 00:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>Those ones are always quite fun when it's a sudden

966
00:46:17.199 --> 00:46:20.639
<v Speaker 1>last minute, very much the last minute we contextualizes everything.

967
00:46:20.800 --> 00:46:24.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, like devil a Christmas or that kind of thing. Yeah,

968
00:46:25.519 --> 00:46:26.039
<v Speaker 2>how about you?

969
00:46:27.559 --> 00:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thinking for mm hmm. Yeah. So yeah, middling, yeah,

970
00:46:32.920 --> 00:46:35.320
<v Speaker 1>good but not the best but not the worst.

971
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, cool that time of the week. Did you

972
00:46:40.159 --> 00:46:40.719
<v Speaker 2>spot the hair?

973
00:46:41.840 --> 00:46:42.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

974
00:46:42.280 --> 00:46:42.559
<v Speaker 2>Would you?

975
00:46:42.679 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 1>I'll say yes, Oh yeah, go for it. It's in

976
00:46:45.719 --> 00:46:49.519
<v Speaker 1>her room, isn't it. It is among the dolls and things. Yeah,

977
00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:50.840
<v Speaker 1>thank you.

978
00:46:52.159 --> 00:46:53.679
<v Speaker 2>It's on the sort of left end of the doll shell.

979
00:46:53.800 --> 00:46:57.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah that's it. Yeah, nice, wonderful listeners spotted our hair.

980
00:46:58.519 --> 00:47:02.039
<v Speaker 2>Yes, now we will tell you where it was next week.

981
00:47:02.199 --> 00:47:05.639
<v Speaker 2>We will. It was a good one, I think. So.

982
00:47:05.719 --> 00:47:10.400
<v Speaker 1>Anyway, we have an email i'd like to read. Oh

983
00:47:10.519 --> 00:47:12.719
<v Speaker 1>so this was sent into us from Daniel.

984
00:47:13.159 --> 00:47:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Hi, Daniel.

985
00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:18.239
<v Speaker 1>The subject line says, a random act of kindness. Ah, Hello,

986
00:47:18.320 --> 00:47:20.039
<v Speaker 1>my name is Daniel. I just wanted to say I've

987
00:47:20.039 --> 00:47:21.960
<v Speaker 1>been loving the show lately and just wanted to thank

988
00:47:22.039 --> 00:47:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you both for putting such a positive light into my

989
00:47:23.960 --> 00:47:26.480
<v Speaker 1>world for the time being. I've been struggling with some

990
00:47:26.519 --> 00:47:28.400
<v Speaker 1>things as of late, and a little beacon of hope

991
00:47:28.400 --> 00:47:30.280
<v Speaker 1>has been listening to both of you and your wonderful

992
00:47:30.280 --> 00:47:32.559
<v Speaker 1>commentary on my favorite show and making me feel like

993
00:47:32.559 --> 00:47:34.719
<v Speaker 1>I'm having a good chit chat with my friends so

994
00:47:34.840 --> 00:47:37.039
<v Speaker 1>much so, making me laugh in my college classes and

995
00:47:37.079 --> 00:47:39.960
<v Speaker 1>having everyone look at me like a madman. I also

996
00:47:40.000 --> 00:47:41.840
<v Speaker 1>thought it was quite cool that me and Steven saw

997
00:47:41.880 --> 00:47:44.159
<v Speaker 1>the same London show of Stage Fright with Matt Berry.

998
00:47:44.800 --> 00:47:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

999
00:47:45.760 --> 00:47:49.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We keep up with good work and I'll continue

1000
00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:54.039
<v Speaker 1>listening peace and bless ah. Thanks Daniel, it's a lovely email.

1001
00:47:54.280 --> 00:47:55.639
<v Speaker 1>Thank you, it was really sweet.

1002
00:47:55.719 --> 00:47:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Thank you.

1003
00:47:56.480 --> 00:47:58.679
<v Speaker 1>I know exactly what it feels like when you're going

1004
00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>through a tough time and then you've got some sort

1005
00:48:00.760 --> 00:48:03.840
<v Speaker 1>of media or something that is keeping you sort of afloat.

1006
00:48:05.039 --> 00:48:08.880
<v Speaker 1>So to be part of that for someone is yeah,

1007
00:48:09.239 --> 00:48:13.360
<v Speaker 1>very humbling. Actually yeah, yeah, we're glad. We're glad to

1008
00:48:13.400 --> 00:48:14.519
<v Speaker 1>be of some sort of help.

1009
00:48:14.800 --> 00:48:17.039
<v Speaker 2>Definitely. Oh thanks for writing in, Daniel.

1010
00:48:17.159 --> 00:48:19.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you so much. We'll be back next.

1011
00:48:19.599 --> 00:48:24.760
<v Speaker 2>Week very well. For how do you plead? Indeed, until then.

1012
00:48:25.119 --> 00:48:27.039
<v Speaker 1>I think it's time to close the door on number nine.

1013
00:48:27.719 --> 00:48:29.679
<v Speaker 2>But you never really leave, do you.

1014
00:48:33.599 --> 00:48:36.440
<v Speaker 1>Thanks for listening to the Ninth Degree. If you'd like

1015
00:48:36.440 --> 00:48:39.119
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1016
00:48:39.159 --> 00:48:42.639
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1017
00:48:42.719 --> 00:48:45.960
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