Speaker 1: Such an icon in your industry.
Speaker 2: So tell us more about who you are, what you
Speaker 2: where you come from, what you're all about.
Speaker 1: Let's private, private talk wants to now.
Speaker 3: Let's do it. So basically, you know, called Kanai. I'm
Speaker 3: from the streets of Brooklyn, New York. I was born
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn in the house without a doubt, you know.
Speaker 3: I was born in Costa Rica. My family migrated here
Speaker 3: when I was three years old. Moved to Brooklyn, and
Speaker 3: my dad came here to set up shop and set
Speaker 3: up a business and import my mother and my sister
Speaker 3: from Costa Rica and here we are.
Speaker 1: So what kind of business?
Speaker 3: Did he set up a printing service? Yeah, he came
Speaker 3: here and he set up a type printing service called
Speaker 3: after me and my sister, it's called Carl Varney Composition Service.
Speaker 3: And he was doing type setting for a lot of banks.
Speaker 3: This was before there was like computers and internet and
Speaker 3: all those type of things like that.
Speaker 1: You explain what type setting is.
Speaker 3: Type setting Basically you do letterheads for banks and you
Speaker 3: do their logos. You do all by hand, and you
Speaker 3: kind of like type out the letterheads and cut and
Speaker 3: paste it on a piece of paper. He xerox copy it.
Speaker 3: You kind of go from there and you had a lot.
Speaker 2: Of that's like the real true talent. Like it's a
Speaker 2: lot of time and work and very precise things. So
Speaker 2: it's like back in the day when people wouldn't want
Speaker 2: to do that stuff. It's like a delicate thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he it was more like a businessman. So
Speaker 3: he taught me the ropes of like not working for
Speaker 3: any one to doing things for your own. And my
Speaker 3: dad was a very fashionable person, so you get his
Speaker 3: clothes made by a tailor back then, so he kind
Speaker 3: of showed me, like how you can make clothes without
Speaker 3: technically knowing how to sew. He had ideas, but he
Speaker 3: surrounded himself with people who didn't know how to do
Speaker 3: things he know how to do, so he didn't how
Speaker 3: to sew, so he hired sewers and tailors to make
Speaker 3: his clothing for him. So the process kind of segue me.
Speaker 2: In every great business person does we know it what
Speaker 2: our crafts are, but sometimes we have just have to
Speaker 2: outsource things that were just we know the vision.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure. So it kind of gave my segue
Speaker 3: into being in a business entrepreneurs. My dad had the
Speaker 3: model never working for anyone, do it on your own,
Speaker 3: find a way to make things happen. That's always been
Speaker 3: in my blood and my genius to do that for
Speaker 3: success in America.
Speaker 1: Nice.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really cool. So do you feel like that
Speaker 2: you've owned up to all of those things I did?
Speaker 3: Because you know, my dad was a fashionable guy and
Speaker 3: he like jewelry and flamboyant. He drove all the fancy
Speaker 3: cars and Cadillacs and the Lincoln's back then with the
Speaker 3: white wall tires. And my dad was the first person
Speaker 3: to have to actually have a TV in his car.
Speaker 3: He took out the glove compartment in his Cadillac and
Speaker 3: put a TV in the glove compartment.
Speaker 2: And back then, you don't no one ever did that
Speaker 2: someone You didn't even know what that was at that time.
Speaker 3: So it showed me the ropes in terms of break
Speaker 3: the rules, figure things out on your make this thing happen.
Speaker 3: So when my daughter, my dad and my mom's got divorced,
Speaker 3: we end up moving to inner City in East New
Speaker 3: York and Brooklyn, and that's when fashion became real to me.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what happened. I went outside and
Speaker 3: I wanted to meet all the kids in the projects.
Speaker 1: Right, how old were you at this time?
Speaker 3: About twelve years old? And I thought I was really cool.
Speaker 3: I had whatever clothes my mother bought for me. And
Speaker 3: back then he's still clothing in the grocery store, okay,
Speaker 3: sneakers and T shirts at the end of the aisle
Speaker 3: the frozen food departments.
Speaker 2: So at that time, did you like make your own
Speaker 2: style with what you had or you just rocked what
Speaker 2: you got at the grocery store.
Speaker 3: Rocked the grocery store store. I thought I was cool.
Speaker 1: Hey, get it, it's all about swag.
Speaker 3: I thought I had swag. I had no swag whatsoever.
Speaker 3: I found out really quickly, so I went outside to
Speaker 3: meet all the kids in the projects. I thought I
Speaker 3: was cool. So I went out there and I thought
Speaker 3: I was chilling. So there was like sizing me up.
Speaker 3: There's like, oh, you did a new kid in the
Speaker 3: projects and moved into eight three. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like, man, what kind of steaks you got on?
Speaker 3: I was like, these are skips. They was like, man,
Speaker 3: get the fuck out of here, and I'm just coming
Speaker 3: from the grocery stores. Bro, we get out of with
Speaker 3: that ship. I was stunned. I felt demoralized. They were
Speaker 3: laughing at me. I went home, cried to him, and
Speaker 3: I was like, Mom, I need some money to buy
Speaker 3: some clothes. These kids are laughing on my clothes. They said,
Speaker 3: you bought it for the grocery store. I need to
Speaker 3: My mother was.
Speaker 4: Like, boy, if you don't go get a job. She said, boy,
Speaker 4: go out there and job exactly right. I was like, okay.
Speaker 4: I refused to go back out there and be demoralized again.
Speaker 4: So I two weeks. I didn't go back outside to
Speaker 4: hang out with these kids. And I saw a newspaper
Speaker 4: truck and I said, kids going to the newspaper truck.
Speaker 4: I'm like, what are you guys doing? It said, oh,
Speaker 4: we delivered newspapers in these bills. He is actually looking
Speaker 4: for a new paper.
Speaker 3: Boy, if you want to do this, I was like,
Speaker 3: you can make money for living newspapers. They're like yeah.
Speaker 3: I'm like I'm in. All I want to do is
Speaker 3: findal money, make some money, get some of those clothes.
Speaker 1: They're not going to make fun of you anymore.
Speaker 3: That's it.
Speaker 1: You just what you wanted to floss it, that's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I got the newspaper route. I just give
Speaker 3: a five thirty in the morning because you have to
Speaker 3: deal with newspapers for it before everyone went to work.
Speaker 1: What time school eight o'clock.
Speaker 3: I got five thirty delivering newspapers to make money. So
Speaker 3: fall I was able to save up. I bought me
Speaker 3: a pair of Pullmans and a campus will take a
Speaker 3: short set, and the Pullmans at that time of seventeen
Speaker 3: dollars and a campus set was like thirty dollars, so
Speaker 3: forty two dollars. I had a fresh outfit. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So now I'm nervous one time. Yeah, if they
Speaker 4: don't take you're fresh to jest, you fucked.
Speaker 3: Now you had to go year to go back out
Speaker 3: there make these kids again. So now I'm fresh. I
Speaker 3: got some wine and white Pullmans, a white short set.
Speaker 3: I'm going back out there, and all the kids are
Speaker 3: sitting in the same spot they were right, So I
Speaker 3: walking there, It's like looking at me, like, ah, surely
Speaker 3: got the white and white pumas, the white short set.
Speaker 3: So now I was accepted. Yeah, that feeling of being
Speaker 3: accepted meant everything to me.
Speaker 1: Everything for sure.
Speaker 3: Now I felt like I'm one of the boys now,
Speaker 3: So that feeling I never want to lose it again.
Speaker 3: So I know, I think I knew that clothing is
Speaker 3: what made you stand out in the hood. It's not
Speaker 3: about how much money you got, because it was all broke, sure,
Speaker 3: but you have fresh clothes on to good money. So
Speaker 3: now I realized this could be my calling now as respect.
Speaker 1: Though a lot of people don't know what that would mean.
Speaker 3: They don't know anything about that. So this is the
Speaker 3: time when hip hop was just sort of coming up,
Speaker 3: and hip hop was always about bragging. But what you got,
Speaker 3: how much jews you got, everything like that, It's always
Speaker 3: about moving forward. So I figured, let me try to
Speaker 3: outdress these guys. All of my friends we used to
Speaker 3: shop at the same stores, so anytime we got something fresh, know,
Speaker 3: we never told anybody where we got it from. So
Speaker 3: we want to always be.
Speaker 1: I still people that they don't want to tell you nothing.
Speaker 1: They don't want to tell you nothing.
Speaker 2: Because they know it's so good. They're like, nah, because
Speaker 2: everyone's gonna copass.
Speaker 3: They tell you nothing. Right. So one day I thought
Speaker 3: about my dad's tailor. I was like, Wow, if I
Speaker 3: make an outfit with this tailor, none of these guys
Speaker 3: would have it because it's fresh. Because what we were
Speaker 3: doing back then, we were buying clothing two sizes is
Speaker 3: bigger because we run it bagging. But they weren't making
Speaker 3: clothes like that. So what I made my outfit with
Speaker 3: the tail, I made it more looser in the legs.
Speaker 3: When I wore that, everybody's like, oh man, that's fresh.
Speaker 3: Who'd you get it from? Where'd you get it from?
Speaker 3: I'm old school, I'm not telling about I ain't telling
Speaker 3: you nothing. So I was like, what want I make
Speaker 3: you one? And back in the nineties in New York,
Speaker 3: everybody was selling drugs. Drug dealing was almost legal back
Speaker 3: then because everyone was everyone's doing it, was doing it.
Speaker 3: So I decided I started selling clothing to all the
Speaker 3: dudes in the projects. Right, instead of selling drugs, I
Speaker 3: was selling clothing to the drug dealers and the projects. Right.
Speaker 3: But here's the key, the most important day that established everything.
Speaker 3: I was sitting in the park one day and I
Speaker 3: was bragging to these girls about I was making these clothes.
Speaker 3: These guys, they didn't believe me. There's a drug dealer
Speaker 3: named Joe. He was one of the biggest drug dealers
Speaker 3: in Brooklyn. He walked by. I was bragging I made
Speaker 3: the alpha for him. The girls didn't believe it, said
Speaker 3: tell them come over here. Then he comes over. She's
Speaker 3: she's like a girl named Keisha. She says, who made
Speaker 3: the Alpha for you? He said, Call made it? What
Speaker 3: what's up? She says? Can I see a jacket? He
Speaker 3: takes it off. Keep in mind, this is the most
Speaker 3: important day of my career. She looks at it. She says, well,
Speaker 3: if Call made it, how much name may know it?
Speaker 3: Then facts That's when it hit me. She was completely right.
Speaker 3: I wasn't owning it. I was just making customer. Had
Speaker 3: no name, no logo, nothing was it was nice clothing had.
Speaker 2: Didn't you didn't get the like props to know that
Speaker 2: it was caron. She's being a smart alec, but she
Speaker 2: was right. I didn't own it. That night I went home.
Speaker 2: This is the time when Miami Vice was out, Scarfaces
Speaker 2: came out. Every dude in the projects loved the movie Scarface.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted to be like Tony Montana saying when she
Speaker 2: said that, I went home listening to Phil Collins in
Speaker 2: the air tonight, over and over and over again. Guess
Speaker 2: what I was thinking about a name from a brand
Speaker 2: because I wanted to be like Polo. I want to
Speaker 2: be at Rolph Lauren. I want to be a Tommy
Speaker 2: Hill figure. I want to be at Calvin Klark because
Speaker 2: that's the most crucial thing, is branding your name, because
Speaker 2: you have one shot.
Speaker 3: One shot, that's it. My dad changed our name to
Speaker 3: an American last name. We moved to the United States,
Speaker 3: to Williams. I was like, call Williams jeans m just
Speaker 3: didn't have a ring to it. Over and over. I'm
Speaker 3: listening to into Air tonight and my mother said, cal
Speaker 3: turn at me. He's paying the same song over and over.
Speaker 3: Pissed off. I was actually manifesting at the time, but
Speaker 3: I didn't know that's what I was doing. I used
Speaker 3: to do to a lot, meaning like anytime I get
Speaker 3: a pen in my hand, I used to write the
Speaker 3: same thing on a piece of paper over and over again.
Speaker 3: One night, I kept writing Carl. I was writing the
Speaker 3: word can I c A and I can? I was
Speaker 3: a question to ask myself, Can I do this? Can
Speaker 3: I be successful? Can I come from the inner city
Speaker 3: and build a brand and make other guys wear my
Speaker 3: brand on them. I didn't know the answer to that
Speaker 3: because it's never been done before. Then I realized, if
Speaker 3: I call myself, can I that name would have meaning
Speaker 3: to it every day I have to answer that question.
Speaker 3: Yes I can, Yes you can, Yes we all can.
Speaker 3: So I decided my name is wil Be Karl can I.
Speaker 3: And that's how streetwear was started. Else know the designer.
Speaker 3: No other brand could ever told you they started a
Speaker 3: streetwear before me, because it's not factual. We started off
Speaker 3: with energy and me just trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3: And that's how street where it was applemaned from the
Speaker 3: street Where, making people believe that if you could do it,
Speaker 3: I could do it too.
Speaker 1: Sure, that's a beautiful thing.
Speaker 2: I mean the fact that that's not inspiring, but it's
Speaker 2: just like it's your truth and so it's so much
Speaker 2: more beautiful than that. But the thing that's it's it's
Speaker 2: just so became so organically your truth of knowing from
Speaker 2: the thing from the you knowing what you wanted from
Speaker 2: your clothes, or knowing the reflection of what the truth
Speaker 2: that you wanted from the boys in the block or
Speaker 2: the girl telling you that where's your name at? You know,
Speaker 2: like the respect of not only that you made that
Speaker 2: item or whatever it was, but you made it fly,
Speaker 2: like you made it hot, like you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like that's such a big respect, especially in the time
Speaker 2: of like you said, like you start from nothing and
Speaker 2: you became something not only because of a belief that
Speaker 2: you had, but because other people talked about it that
Speaker 2: inspired you even more. So that to me is like
Speaker 2: I'm very big on energy and like the love, and
Speaker 2: like there's certain things that come just like in like
Speaker 2: intuition by yourself.
Speaker 1: You don't even know when it's gonna happen.
Speaker 2: And maybe that was your calling and obviously it was
Speaker 2: because you're still here after all this time. You've made
Speaker 2: a big you know, impression from the beginning, you're still
Speaker 2: here today, and that I think that that's you know,
Speaker 2: what inspires me is like I said, I've met you
Speaker 2: in twenty fifteen, you know in a way that you know,
Speaker 2: I knew.
Speaker 1: Who you were, but not who you were, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it was like in you're very soft spoken and
Speaker 2: you're very like you know, to yourself, which is very
Speaker 2: you know, appreciative because you're an artist and your own
Speaker 2: you know, and your own respect. But I think that
Speaker 2: right now, like what I think attracted me more was
Speaker 2: because of your rebranding of not only just taking the
Speaker 2: sticks of who you were, but taking now into like
Speaker 2: being like, hey, I'm still who I am, but you
Speaker 2: know what, I'm doing this stuff and you're gonna still
Speaker 2: you know, because people are still wearing yourself, people are still.
Speaker 1: Talking about you.
Speaker 2: You've redone a lot of things, you know, But from
Speaker 2: the start, let's talk about, like who do you think,
Speaker 2: celebrity wise is who pushed your brand the most in
Speaker 2: the beginning? That made Carl Kanai? After you named yourself
Speaker 2: Carl Kanai and can you and obviously you can who
Speaker 2: pushed that for you? Like what was the you know,
Speaker 2: the segway after you named yourself and me that way?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know our journeys. Who's been so real and
Speaker 3: everything's been God sent and everything's done without thought? I
Speaker 3: just did. We came out to La with a thousand
Speaker 3: dollars in my pocket, with a patha full of dreams.
Speaker 3: We opened up a store on Crunchhall Boulevard in the
Speaker 3: middle of South Central, two blocks away from them she
Speaker 3: hustle storey open them on Crunchshaw. Okay, my store is
Speaker 3: forty three twelve Crunchhaw Boulevard in the Merk Park. And
Speaker 3: we didn't know what we were doing, but we just
Speaker 3: want a mission to succeed. You had a dream, Yeah,
Speaker 3: and failure was not an option, you know, like we
Speaker 3: never thought about failure. We never thought this was not
Speaker 3: gonna work. So the first music artists that we met
Speaker 3: out here was Easy E, Doctor Dre at the Palladium
Speaker 3: in Holly. We met them and they were so receptive
Speaker 3: to everything we're doing. They were like, they want to
Speaker 3: rock out. Clothing was anyway, Yeah, yeah, it was new
Speaker 3: and it was different. So hip hop to me at
Speaker 3: the time didn't have any clothing brands that was representing
Speaker 3: that culture. We were that brand to represent the hip
Speaker 3: hop culture. No other clothing companies didn't embrace hip hop.
Speaker 3: They never thought hip hop was even going to last.
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, a lot of design it was. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they didn't eve want hip hop artists in their clothing.
Speaker 3: They thought that it would have whatever. Ye of course,
Speaker 3: But I embraced what we knew and I embrace that's
Speaker 3: who you were, That's who we were. We were just
Speaker 3: we were built from the cloth these other kids are
Speaker 3: built from. We all grew up insecurities. We all were scared.
Speaker 3: We didn't know what we were doing, but we know
Speaker 3: we wanted to succeed. We know, we didn't want to
Speaker 3: go back to where we came from. I didn't want
Speaker 3: to go back to the hood because there's nothing back there,
Speaker 3: of course, and.
Speaker 1: That's the respect of the entrepreneurship.
Speaker 2: I feel like, as we all know where it comes from,
Speaker 2: it stems from and there's no other way but winning.
Speaker 1: We're not taking anything else. We're going up.
Speaker 3: It's winning. But you know what's really crazy about it.
Speaker 3: I realized that that thought of me being demoralized with
Speaker 3: those guys making fun of me of the clothing is
Speaker 3: what pushed me to never want to feel that film again.
Speaker 3: So when I decided did I want to build a business,
Speaker 3: failure was not going to happen. Of course, I thought,
Speaker 3: pat it to that, so.
Speaker 1: We because you're investing in yourself at that time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, the key about Alexis was was
Speaker 3: double no thought. I didn't think about how I felt.
Speaker 3: I knew we had to move forward and gets stinc done.
Speaker 3: So as we went through easy the first big artist
Speaker 3: that we got to do a clothing campaign was Puffy
Speaker 3: p diddykay back in nineteen ninety one. He did my
Speaker 3: first clothing ad for me and we launched it in
Speaker 3: five magazine, No Sorry, Source Magazine nineteen ninety two, Carl
Speaker 3: Kinni the first ad and source Pdy White Baggy called
Speaker 3: can I sagged with the red shorts and fresh to death,
Speaker 3: and this whole look was totally new to all the
Speaker 3: kids on the streets. Everybody wanted this look that we
Speaker 3: were doing the originally the streetwear, so he kind of
Speaker 3: set it off for us and like from there it
Speaker 3: went from Puffy Tupac, Biggie Nas, Jay z Emine. They're
Speaker 3: just rolling and rolling and rolling roll. The craziest thing
Speaker 3: we got Michael Jackson to wear my clothing in nineteen
Speaker 3: ninety five, the only time Michael Jackson wore streetwear, it
Speaker 3: was called can I and Jordan these moments. I didn't
Speaker 3: realize how big these moments were in the process, not
Speaker 3: to reflect back to.
Speaker 1: Those days, you can understand that I'm realizing how big
Speaker 1: that was.
Speaker 3: Each moment was.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm in a moment in my life where
Speaker 2: you know, I was on a fast track to my
Speaker 2: business and I was really successful in my business, and
Speaker 2: like I said, I have no qualms of anything members
Speaker 2: But you didn't really realize and appreciate certain moments in
Speaker 2: your life because you're just in it until you really
Speaker 2: have time to set back and like reflect on those things.
Speaker 1: Do you were?
Speaker 2: Like, man, that's a big deal to a lot of
Speaker 2: people would never have those like monumental moments. But like
Speaker 2: Michael Jackson wearing the Only Street Where at that time
Speaker 2: for Karl and I like, that's an amazing monumental moment.
Speaker 2: Like not anybody can say that, obviously being the first time,
Speaker 2: but like, how did that make you feel after you
Speaker 2: reflected knowing that?
Speaker 1: How did that make you feel?
Speaker 3: Think about it? The King of pop who he is?
Speaker 3: Where my brand? Like I just know, like life's about
Speaker 3: destiny and goals. You gotta follow your dreams. And sometimes
Speaker 3: I think that the roll to the top sometimes could
Speaker 3: be perceived it'd be so lonely. Of course, not everybody's
Speaker 3: gonna get your vision. And I've lost I'm not going
Speaker 3: to say the word is lost, but I've disco connected
Speaker 3: with a lot of friends on the world to the
Speaker 3: top where I'm going because I knew I was on
Speaker 3: a mission. My goal is always I have a pivotal
Speaker 3: point when I get to I'm going to get there
Speaker 3: no matter what. If you want to join me on
Speaker 3: this journey, Come join me. I respect Nah, I never
Speaker 3: say cut nobody off. You know what I say? Time
Speaker 3: out for sure, mental timeout.
Speaker 2: I al would say like I can lead a horse
Speaker 2: to water, but I can't force you to drink it.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things, you know, I want everyone
Speaker 2: to win. If you're on my camp, I want us
Speaker 2: all to eat. And it's one of those things. But
Speaker 2: there's certain times that you really realize in certain situations
Speaker 2: who's really there for you and who's not. So you know, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: if you've got to be going to time out or not,
Speaker 2: you may reflect a little bit differently, but you know,
Speaker 2: it doesn't make you lesser any more important than you
Speaker 2: were a pivotal point in your life.
Speaker 3: Focus focus, focus, care less, do more, keep your emotions intact,
Speaker 3: stay on your goals. That's always been a model. And
Speaker 3: I realized that you're mental and your physical, all those
Speaker 3: things all coincide together for success because success is not
Speaker 3: meant for everybody. Of course, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: People are envious enough to that they want it and
Speaker 2: they think that it looks so easy, but it's not
Speaker 2: as easy as people want it to be. And the
Speaker 2: people that I feel like yourself. You've been such here
Speaker 2: for so long that you're a testament to that. Whole
Speaker 2: saying is that you've put in the work, you're still here,
Speaker 2: you're still relevant, and that you know it's a big
Speaker 2: testament to the relevant world from being where it is
Speaker 2: today to ten years ago, twenty years ago, so much so.
Speaker 3: And I feel like once you get to the point
Speaker 3: in your life we accept each moment except everything is
Speaker 3: all good, and if it doesn't go your way, it's
Speaker 3: just not meant to be. And that's kind of what's
Speaker 3: been driving us to continue on our path to success
Speaker 3: where we're going, and we've been very successful throughout the years.
Speaker 3: We had so many bumps and bruises in the road,
Speaker 3: and each bumps and bruises you learn from that. You
Speaker 3: just got growth. Of course, it's all part of the game,
Speaker 3: you know what. I realized something like I have this model.
Speaker 3: Once you go through a hiccup or something on your
Speaker 3: journey doesn't go your way, my mental is charged to
Speaker 3: the game because there's another options. In fact, you chose
Speaker 3: the role to be an entrepreneur, right, but there's other options.
Speaker 3: You know, what you could do. McDonald's is high.
Speaker 1: Thank you. I always use that one first check.
Speaker 2: I always like, I'm glad that they didn't working nine
Speaker 2: to five because I could do that. So there's certain
Speaker 2: try and tribulations. Even though it could be my worst day,
Speaker 2: it's not someone else's worst day. So you have to
Speaker 2: like put in perspective. But it doesn't mean that it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that your worst day is bad or not unwarranted,
Speaker 2: because we're all humans and have our own feelings. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, you have to like kind of
Speaker 2: almost sit back and be like, okay, like the blessings
Speaker 2: of what we have and everything is like you have
Speaker 2: to like put in perspective. But yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 2: hard one to do with. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: like with the whole like evolution of like where you
Speaker 2: know you started a long time ago with the whole
Speaker 2: business and where you're relevant still today, is how do
Speaker 2: you feel about the brand the new brands of like
Speaker 2: the fashion novas, the pretty little things like all these
Speaker 2: brands of like coming up and like doing not really creating,
Speaker 2: but putting merchandise out for everyone to.
Speaker 1: Be a part of.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know again, life is about acceptance, and you've
Speaker 3: got to accept where things are going of course in
Speaker 3: a minute you don't accept it, that means it's stress
Speaker 3: on you because you don't have the power to change them.
Speaker 3: And mentum more things are.
Speaker 2: Going or what the world is meant to be, and
Speaker 2: and you know see with social media, iPhones and all
Speaker 2: these things that we never knew we could do ten
Speaker 2: even five years ago.
Speaker 3: It's a deep process. Even like when we came out,
Speaker 3: I'm sure a lot of other designers didn't want Street
Speaker 3: We're out there. Sure it took away from what they
Speaker 3: were doing, but they had the final way to accept it.
Speaker 3: So when just these fashion brand started coming out of
Speaker 3: the fashion over, its pretty little things and all them,
Speaker 3: I started seeing it and I'm seeing how they are
Speaker 3: capturing a young generation of people with a different mentality
Speaker 3: of thinking. And if you don't have the young generation
Speaker 3: where in your brand you.
Speaker 1: Can exactly you got to get in with the times.
Speaker 3: So being from the streets, coming from Crumb where I'm from,
Speaker 3: realize that you got to associate with people who got
Speaker 3: a movement that you may not have. So what did
Speaker 3: I do. We did a collaboration, a pretty little thing,
Speaker 3: and it was a very common knowledge collaboration. We both
Speaker 3: wanted something from each other. They wanted legitimacy from streetwear,
Speaker 3: legitimacy to their brand and guess so we wanted we
Speaker 3: want that social media infam.
Speaker 1: And the new generation of wearing.
Speaker 3: Exactly which what they had. It's a game changer right there.
Speaker 3: It changed our game. So we did a collaboration last year.
Speaker 3: It launched on my birthday. We signed Tianna Taylor. We
Speaker 3: had billboards of Times Square three billboards, we had billboards,
Speaker 3: TV commercials. London, Europe isn't. Yeah, well it introduced my brand.
Speaker 3: This whole generation of kids, they all want to be cool,
Speaker 3: they all want to be street they all love tupap,
Speaker 3: they all want to be part of the culture. Didn't
Speaker 3: know how to do it. Pretty little thing introduced my
Speaker 3: brand to that culture. Yeah, so it was like a
Speaker 3: wind wind for both companies.
Speaker 2: Of course, because again at this point you have to
Speaker 2: you know, you either have to revamp yourself to it.
Speaker 2: Like like you said, if the new generation's not wearing
Speaker 2: your thing, then they're not gonna buy it. So if
Speaker 2: you're not gonna be relevant to what's now, so if
Speaker 2: you have to change with the times. And I think
Speaker 2: that was like an amazing thing, especially using someone as
Speaker 2: big as Yanna like it was a great thing. Like
Speaker 2: people wanted to see what she was wearing. She looked hot,
Speaker 2: she looked good, like you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: it was the color everything it was.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was the right moment for sure.
Speaker 3: It was the right moment for hip hop, was right
Speaker 3: moment for the culture. And life's about adjustment. Accepting adjustment
Speaker 3: changes to your life and your business, and you can
Speaker 3: learn to be more successful for the future. Don't get
Speaker 3: caught up on how things used to be because no
Speaker 3: one cares. No.
Speaker 2: It's like the old school, like quarterback like I used
Speaker 2: to do, like I had five touchdowns again, and no
Speaker 2: one cares about the what incut of whatever. It's about
Speaker 2: what are you doing now? What is your current constant
Speaker 2: whatever going on? So what are you doing now currently?
Speaker 3: You know, We've been so blessed. We just celebrate our
Speaker 3: thirty year anniversary this year.
Speaker 1: Congratulations, Thank you so much.
Speaker 3: And our brand is the number one streetwear brand in Europe,
Speaker 3: with the number three selling brand in foot locker Europe.
Speaker 3: They have fourteen hundred stores calalk Nize NOWS and a
Speaker 3: thousand stores, so it's ninety Adidas's number three selling brand
Speaker 3: in Europe. What we have. The advantage we have is
Speaker 3: that we outgrown generations. We have parents who grew up
Speaker 3: on our clothing. Now we have their kids who to
Speaker 3: be a part of the nineties culture. All they do
Speaker 3: see images of it. They don't know anything about it.
Speaker 3: They want to represent the culture. You know what they
Speaker 3: do now? Kids are smart. They do their research. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they see who was popular in what.
Speaker 2: They were wearing, and that was great about what you
Speaker 2: put your name on it, so you put it exactly
Speaker 2: on it. You didn't have to like have a label
Speaker 2: on the back. It was right in front of your
Speaker 2: face and bowl.
Speaker 3: So there's no other brand that could show you Michael Jackson, Eliyah, Tupac,
Speaker 3: Biggie jay Z, Puffy Nas all in one brand, no
Speaker 3: one else but Carl Cano. Because it wasn't about Carl's
Speaker 3: about the culture back then, what was real, what was
Speaker 3: what was in the culture. So that's why brand resonates
Speaker 3: to this day. And Tupac plays a huge role. He's
Speaker 3: like a household name. He's the icon of hip hop.
Speaker 3: And I have over two hundred pitches of him wearing
Speaker 3: my brand, no paid endorsement. He wore it because it's real.
Speaker 2: So you said, you've said Tupac twice now in this segment.
Speaker 2: What iconic role has he? Did he play a part
Speaker 2: in your life? After him pushing your brand without no
Speaker 2: endorsement and all of that, that's a big thing because obviously
Speaker 2: he believed in you your brand. Did you guys have
Speaker 2: a friendship? Like where did that go? Because that's that's
Speaker 2: a big thing, you know. I mean, Tubac is everyone
Speaker 2: loves him, everybody you know to this day. You know,
Speaker 2: regardless if you knew him or not, he's still very
Speaker 2: treating a lot of people's hearts.
Speaker 3: Our relationship is really different.
Speaker 2: He's a Gemini also, Gemini's in the house. I love
Speaker 2: my geminis very.
Speaker 3: Weird relationship, you know, like he's aware about Culton all
Speaker 3: the time. So I really want to meet him. So
Speaker 3: we set up a meeting at the Hotel Nico, which
Speaker 3: is now a SLS hotel in Losianica. Okay, So I
Speaker 3: go to this room the first time he's every meeting right,
Speaker 3: and knock on the door. He says, come in. We
Speaker 3: walk in and he's like on a computer or a laptop.
Speaker 3: He's typing a scripture movie and he's talking to me.
Speaker 3: Were talking about black culture, hip hop, black panthers, you know,
Speaker 3: his whole life. One weird thing though he never looked
Speaker 3: at me in my eyes, he never looked up and
Speaker 3: looked at me. But he's talking to me, he said
Speaker 3: Gemini thing, yeah to each other.
Speaker 1: I feel that because I know because I'm like you.
Speaker 2: Like, even though you're comfortable, you're still in the awareness mode.
Speaker 2: But you're like, you know, if I'm talking to you
Speaker 2: and I'm being this in depth, that means you should know.
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable, but you may not unless you're a Gemini,
Speaker 2: but I'm comfortable. Are two sides play a lot of things,
Speaker 2: you know what I wouldn't I wouldn't give up being
Speaker 2: a Gemini more than anything in the world.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things that you know. So I know,
Speaker 2: it's like people say like, oh, what are you and
Speaker 2: they're like Gemini, like, oh, I'm like you know what, Yeah.
Speaker 1: That's what I am.
Speaker 2: And then I add I'm a Puerto Rican too, and
Speaker 2: they're like, oh, okay, even more so I am.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty.
Speaker 2: Where do you think that big body came from a baby?
Speaker 3: Okay? Okay?
Speaker 2: The things you find out a private talk podcast, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Texas.
Speaker 2: That's right, guys, you better subscribe like this channel private
Speaker 2: talk podcast.
Speaker 1: You better do it.
Speaker 2: We're here with Kyle Karan and we're having an amazing time.
Speaker 2: I feel like we're getting more comfortable as we speak.
Speaker 2: So he let me hear more.
Speaker 1: So he knocked on the door. He wasn't looking in
Speaker 1: the eye, but he was.
Speaker 2: You were vibing him though, because you still kept talking,
Speaker 2: because you're just like you were still wondering though, like
Speaker 2: why aren't you looking in the eye.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you as a Gemini.
Speaker 3: Know, Oh there's more to the story though.
Speaker 1: Please tell me so feel private, you'll come open.
Speaker 3: Blunt after blunt.
Speaker 2: I like this already, all right, maybe I should light
Speaker 2: this up right now, let's do it in honor. Let's
Speaker 2: let's stet it up and then it's like, I'll just
Speaker 2: use the candle.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. He never passed the blunt.
Speaker 1: Though I didn't play baseball, he didn't pass the blunt.
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
Speaker 2: As a girl, that means something way different for dudes.
Speaker 2: So why didn't he pass the blunt?
Speaker 3: Because he was in his zona what he was doing.
Speaker 3: Maybe he didn't know if I smoked.
Speaker 2: Because guys were just like well, ware of your mouth,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, come on now, shretch your mouth, like,
Speaker 2: come on now.
Speaker 3: I think he's enjoying the moment.
Speaker 2: So like, did you say a puff puff? Pass intimidated?
Speaker 2: You didn't know at all.
Speaker 3: So my purpose of going with too, I want to
Speaker 3: meet him, but I also want to talk about doing
Speaker 3: a clothing advertisement of clothing campaigns. For me, I didn't
Speaker 3: feel the moment of accent. I remember room service came
Speaker 3: and knocked on the door deliver some food.
Speaker 2: Do you remember what the rooms with the many what
Speaker 2: was on the menu that night? It was chicken chicken fingers,
Speaker 2: it was was there a ranch? Was podcast?
Speaker 3: No mustard? It was definitely some fries there. But the
Speaker 3: key with the room service guy had a towel around
Speaker 3: his space coming to the room with someone smoke in
Speaker 3: the room.
Speaker 1: Oh god, right, they didn't tell he was that cool
Speaker 1: that they didn't kick him out.
Speaker 3: Back then it was different though, fat there was there
Speaker 3: was tupac in the room, right, So I was like okay.
Speaker 3: So after the guy came in, I was like, here's
Speaker 3: my opportunity. I was like, your plock, how much did
Speaker 3: you charge me to do an ad?
Speaker 2: How many shots did you have at this time, no shows. No,
Speaker 2: so you just did it okay because you said that
Speaker 2: you were nervous.
Speaker 1: She didn't know it nervous.
Speaker 3: After room saving, I was like, okay, let me ask
Speaker 3: him that.
Speaker 1: Okay, shoot your shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So he got really quiet. He said anything. It
Speaker 3: felt like an hour. He was like, yo, I ain't
Speaker 3: gonna charge you nothing. I ain't gonna charge you anything.
Speaker 3: You black. I don't charge on people for nothing. And
Speaker 3: the man kept his word. Two weeks later he was
Speaker 3: in New York. We did a photo shoot, his most
Speaker 3: iconic photo shoot we've ever done in life. Once asking
Speaker 3: that question that kind of broke the ice.
Speaker 2: That's awesome though, That's like it was organic and that most.
Speaker 1: People aren't true on your words.
Speaker 2: So for you to keep doing that and for you
Speaker 2: to like as much as he wrapped your brand and
Speaker 2: like push it or whatever, it's like, that's so much
Speaker 2: belief in like loving what you did is like it.
Speaker 3: Was crazy, very respectful. Denny goes like this, He's like,
Speaker 3: hold on, I want one thing. I was like, here
Speaker 3: you go.
Speaker 1: I want to hoodie here he go. That's what I
Speaker 1: would say.
Speaker 3: He's like, I want you to put thug life and
Speaker 3: some of the adds with me his crew. I was like,
Speaker 3: that's it, that's it, And then Danny changed the Gemini
Speaker 3: came out.
Speaker 2: He's like, yo, so you said that's it, So now
Speaker 2: I know there's a there's a segue into something that
Speaker 2: I have more.
Speaker 3: Then he goes, yo, I want to just add. Denny
Speaker 3: started creative directoring. He says, yo, I want to add.
Speaker 3: I want to be on top of a bastball rim
Speaker 3: in manhat with no showed on, with your sweatpants on.
Speaker 2: Fly.
Speaker 3: Everything he said happened, every single thing he said.
Speaker 2: But like you said before, it's got It's one of
Speaker 2: those things that you didn't know at the time, but
Speaker 2: it was already set in motion for the first time
Speaker 2: you met him. If it was inspirational, it was whatever
Speaker 2: from both times. Because creatives and most especially geminis, like
Speaker 2: when you put people in a room geminized like people
Speaker 2: are again like as much as they're like geminis, they
Speaker 2: love us because they love us because we could be
Speaker 2: the best of both worlds one thousand. We can adapt
Speaker 2: any situation, but we're creatives. We're very creative in a
Speaker 2: lot of things where it's like sometimes it takes another
Speaker 2: Gemini to pull something out of us. But when we're
Speaker 2: together and that magnetic thing, it's like there's no stopping it.
Speaker 2: And it's like, you know, like you don't you don't
Speaker 2: look back. You know, you don't look back at all
Speaker 2: at all. Like that's an amazing Like that's not many
Speaker 2: people can have that. You know, that story. So again,
Speaker 2: that blunt is for you, Tupop. So I have a
Speaker 2: question for you, if you could give advice to the
Speaker 2: young Karl Kanai, what would it be?
Speaker 3: The only thing I know is my life and how
Speaker 3: I did things, And I can't speak towards how other
Speaker 3: people became successful because I don't know how that road works.
Speaker 3: I know how my road works. My work works is
Speaker 3: hard work, dedication, focus, focus, focused, focus. Every night before
Speaker 3: I would have been think about success and successful. What
Speaker 3: scares me every morning to wake up early? Like I don't.
Speaker 3: I admire people sometimes they could sleep to twelve, one, two,
Speaker 3: two o'clock. I don't know how to do it, like
Speaker 3: brow Sometimes I wish I could do that, but you don't.
Speaker 1: I think you really don't know you do. But on
Speaker 1: the other side of what do you would do it?
Speaker 1: For two days? You're like, oh, you're like, you're driving
Speaker 1: yourself crazy.
Speaker 3: Trust me, but I feel like you got to be
Speaker 3: scared of something in life to keep you going. You
Speaker 3: gotta fear something, something has to keep you motivated, complacive,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. So Like, I feel like
Speaker 3: hard work and focus what keeps me driven every day.
Speaker 3: And I will not fail for nothing. My model is
Speaker 3: I rather die before I fail. I feel like you're
Speaker 3: on this earth for a purpose. In fact, I'm not
Speaker 3: on this earth to fail. I'm not honest worth to suffer.
Speaker 3: And if you think like it's okay to be suffering,
Speaker 3: to be down, shame on you, because why do you think,
Speaker 3: like why should somebody else have something that you don't have?
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 3: Nothing in life is given to you. If you're putting
Speaker 3: all the work, you fucking focus, you're working hard, dooin
Speaker 3: these things, you deserve success. If you don't feel you
Speaker 3: deserve it, then what do you feel for yourself? Like,
Speaker 3: don't succumb to other shit, succumb to the best. So
Speaker 3: that's why I was with my motto, and I don't
Speaker 3: like dealing no bullshit. I should just focused. So am
Speaker 3: I bad? In my worst times? We always found a
Speaker 3: way to find another route to be successful. And then
Speaker 3: once you think like that, you'll find a way and
Speaker 3: keeping good energy and people around you will help you
Speaker 3: get to that point a lot closer.
Speaker 1: I like that. So your current situation right now?
Speaker 2: So are you single, married? What is your current relationship status?
Speaker 2: Where are you at with that?
Speaker 3: Got two kids? Okay, I'm single focused. You know, having
Speaker 3: two kids is great. Then Mom, we grew up in
Speaker 3: the same projects. We just grew apart. You know, it
Speaker 3: is what it is. But we're two great kids and
Speaker 3: it happened and they're successful.
Speaker 1: What they do, it's respectful co parenting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we try. She's a Scorpio, so it's
Speaker 3: a little difficult for me.
Speaker 2: What does that mean for our listeners for the Private
Speaker 2: Talk podcast? What does scorpio? What does that mean for people?
Speaker 3: I just feel like sometimes Scorpio people like maybe like
Speaker 3: it's like no negotiating with them once they don't agree
Speaker 3: with you on certain thoughts and stuff like that. So
Speaker 3: you got to find about very seven Yeah somewhat. And
Speaker 3: it doesn't mean that I'm right. It just means that
Speaker 3: does connect right with my energy because everyone feels that
Speaker 3: they're right in their feelings. Of course, anyone to tell
Speaker 3: someone they're not right how you feel, because no one
Speaker 3: could tell me Carul. You know, you shouldn't feel that
Speaker 3: way about especially in.
Speaker 1: A time right now where it's like everybody's right. There's
Speaker 1: a lot of there's a lot.
Speaker 2: Of things where it's like people are questioning everything in
Speaker 2: the world. So it's just very up in the air.
Speaker 2: So again, everybody's feelings obviously matter, Yeah, but it's how
Speaker 2: you approach the situation and like how you are tactful
Speaker 2: about it. I mean, obviously you can't be a dick
Speaker 2: about certain things regardless of bit with it.
Speaker 1: So with the respect of it, like is it with co.
Speaker 3: Parenting, acceptance, acceptance on what things are I once to
Speaker 3: accept things that you can be able to move forward
Speaker 3: in the pods and manner, because that's what life is about,
Speaker 3: moving forward. Everything is not going to be exactly what
Speaker 3: you want, but you can show change things if you
Speaker 3: have a different mentality about things, and that's how I
Speaker 3: move forward. So yeah, so.
Speaker 1: That's my current situation, okay, and.
Speaker 3: I'm happy about it and I'm cool about where things
Speaker 3: are right now, all right.
Speaker 2: I have a question, just like inspiring minds wants to know. So,
Speaker 2: like in your heyday and even currently, like, did you
Speaker 2: ever have to deal with like fashion groupies?
Speaker 1: Is that like a thing?
Speaker 2: Is it like people waiting at your doors at like
Speaker 2: certain things like fashion events? Is it like something like
Speaker 2: dming you? It's like people like how do you deal
Speaker 2: with that? How does that happen? Does it happen?
Speaker 1: Tell Private Talk podcast what that's all about?
Speaker 3: I think, like for me, like it's always like dealing
Speaker 3: with models and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Is it because they're wanting to wear your clothes for free?
Speaker 2: Is it because they want to model for you? Is
Speaker 2: it just because in general of who you are, you're
Speaker 2: deman it like in what aspect? Because again, even with myself,
Speaker 2: like I've gotten hit up in the DMS several times,
Speaker 2: But does it mean that they want me? They want
Speaker 2: a persona of me, They want Alexis Texas of what
Speaker 2: that persona is. And I'm going to tell you I'm
Speaker 2: not that persona. Like I've talked back and I'm not
Speaker 2: very nice a lot of the times, but you know
Speaker 2: when I'm a great person. But you know what I
Speaker 2: mean that I'm saying. So, how do you like just
Speaker 2: like describe that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, in my younger days, it
Speaker 3: was very fun because you know, we all love attentions design.
Speaker 2: And that's like posts like social media day, so nobody
Speaker 2: was like paying attention to what you were doing. You
Speaker 2: had like to develop film like at a like you know,
Speaker 2: twenty four hour Place if you were lucky, or like
Speaker 2: a like just like hard film, role clear like something
Speaker 2: or Polaroid. You know, nothing came out really great, so
Speaker 2: no one knew.
Speaker 3: What you were doing Polaris. Yeah, I think, like you know,
Speaker 3: when you young coming up, like, yeah, we all want
Speaker 3: attention to ourselves and we will embrace that. And I
Speaker 3: feel like a lot of girls want to be part
Speaker 3: of the culture, don't want to be the freature models
Speaker 3: and stuff. But as you get older, you get wise,
Speaker 3: you feel realize all those things is bubble gump. Of course,
Speaker 3: they just want opportunities and you gotta gauge yourself on.
Speaker 2: But you also have to like dabble in the morning
Speaker 2: opportunities because I myself get bored at certain things and
Speaker 2: I want to be entertained, So you have to be
Speaker 2: entertained by that as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know, like with me, I'm so fickle
Speaker 3: on who I want to be with and girls that
Speaker 3: I want to really ultimately.
Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily they want to be with them, but
Speaker 2: to be entertained by them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, it's.
Speaker 2: Just that's the groupy nature of things is like, you know,
Speaker 2: being around people and not necessarily.
Speaker 1: Doing anything, but just being in the mix in the moment.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fun. You know black doesn't. It was
Speaker 3: very fun. We had a great time. It's very inspirational.
Speaker 3: You know. The funny thing about me, no matter how
Speaker 3: much we hung out, how many girls who have been
Speaker 3: around always up at six o'clock and the next morning
Speaker 3: and guess what focused on?
Speaker 2: Because it was always about work. Yeah, regardless of the
Speaker 2: fun behalf like good night before and I respect that.
Speaker 2: That's that means you're a true entrepreneur. And then didn't
Speaker 2: regardless of what the the vice was or whatever, if
Speaker 2: it was girls partying, whatever, you still got up and
Speaker 2: you did.
Speaker 1: Carl, Can I.
Speaker 3: Me and my home boys used to work for me
Speaker 3: like we used to. I have this thing. We used
Speaker 3: to go out and get drunk and go back to
Speaker 3: my house and party all night.
Speaker 2: Can I ask you what was your alcohol at that point?
Speaker 2: Is it still currently?
Speaker 1: The same thing.
Speaker 3: Oh no, like back then we're doing like E. J.
Speaker 2: Brandy, Oh shoot, and like all that, like the accessible things.
Speaker 3: The Hennessy, and back then we were drinking and drying.
Speaker 2: I mean, so that means you're doing a lot of
Speaker 2: not great things. Choices, life choices probably were very.
Speaker 3: Blurry that we should crash a lot of cars and
Speaker 3: do all the crazy shit. But the weird thing again.
Speaker 1: We do not for drunk driving here at private podcast.
Speaker 2: This is a long time ago before all these things
Speaker 2: still days.
Speaker 3: But again, no matter what comes six o'clock, refocused.
Speaker 1: And that's that's the most respectful thing.
Speaker 2: But because to me is again is why obviously who
Speaker 2: you are today and why you're still obviously relevant and
Speaker 2: still current. Even as you said, it's like you even
Speaker 2: doing the pretty little things thing like collab. People knew
Speaker 2: who you were, but you revamping your thing is it's
Speaker 2: very more modern of like what the current people are doing.
Speaker 2: It's evolved with the changes, and it's like I love it,
Speaker 2: like you know, like I where your stuff. I've did
Speaker 2: it before, and it just it's it's very so you're
Speaker 2: still your brand and still just very much to you.
Speaker 2: So it's very unique that you can still be in
Speaker 2: the business as long as you have and still be
Speaker 2: true to your car can I bran.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, because you know what you can't from where you are.
Speaker 3: We've always stayed true to take it in the street
Speaker 3: where and I know for a fact what's separate my
Speaker 3: brand from everybody else's history. But no one could replace history.
Speaker 3: There's one thing that money came by. It came by legacy,
Speaker 3: exactly by history. Money could never how much MOE you have,
Speaker 3: you can never perpetrate that you were here in the nineties.
Speaker 3: You can never perpetrate you did these things.
Speaker 2: Now what time time is? I mean, you can't replace
Speaker 2: it unforgiven.
Speaker 3: So my point time is the time that we put
Speaker 3: in there is benefits to this day because history is
Speaker 3: everything for sure.
Speaker 1: And that's one thing. What I like, what I gravitated
Speaker 1: to what.
Speaker 2: You said earlier was like you at the moments of
Speaker 2: when you were your highest peaks, you almost didn't really
Speaker 2: realize how high those peaks were until you maybe sat
Speaker 2: back a little bit and realize what those peaks were.
Speaker 2: Because myself in my business, like I feel like I'm
Speaker 2: almost more reaping the benefits now of me sitting back
Speaker 2: and like enjoying your legacy, your brand and all those
Speaker 2: things and so those things is like it's just very
Speaker 2: satisfying to know that you're still like you've done so
Speaker 2: many monumental things that people could never even replace, like
Speaker 2: the Michael Jackson thing, Like there's so many stories, the
Speaker 2: Tupac thing, like that's amazing. And again, I appreciate you
Speaker 2: being here on the Private Talk podcast.
Speaker 1: You're amazing. I appreciate you. Last question that.
Speaker 2: I have currently right now, who do you think is
Speaker 2: the best stressed male and female artists in the industry
Speaker 2: at this current moment?
Speaker 3: Wow? Okay. I think in terms of females, like have
Speaker 3: a class, keep its sexy, keep it.
Speaker 2: Again, this is your your your taste, your genre, your
Speaker 2: whatever you want it to be.
Speaker 3: I think like any girl that I think is dope,
Speaker 3: who's always fashioned forward, who pushes to the limit, And
Speaker 3: this is someone who added to it's more of an
Speaker 3: obvious more than just clothing. Everything is a package.
Speaker 1: Of course.
Speaker 2: Well for me, I think that that's what makes it
Speaker 2: all come together is because it's a whole.
Speaker 3: Like yeah, it gotta like hands down respect she does.
Speaker 1: That's my girl crush forever in life.
Speaker 3: What people think what they say. She does what she wants,
Speaker 3: she wants, she shows up what she wants, she does
Speaker 3: the album what she wants, she does whatever she wants,
Speaker 3: and she steps out. Everyone still cares who she who she.
Speaker 1: Is, what she's wearing, what.
Speaker 3: She's learned the game about pacing your time. Don't go
Speaker 3: and give people what they want, give it to when
Speaker 3: you're ready to give them what they want.
Speaker 1: She has mass your worth.
Speaker 3: And control your destiny. She's been a mass I love
Speaker 3: that and longevity. She'll be around forever.
Speaker 2: She's honestly, like I said, I don't just say that
Speaker 2: she's my girl crush number one.
Speaker 1: Love her hands downs and males.
Speaker 3: You know, I would say Travis Scott is going to
Speaker 3: be a type of dude between his music and his
Speaker 3: fashion and where he's going, and I love about it
Speaker 3: the most. He doesn't do interviews. You don't really know
Speaker 3: Travis Scott. You don't know how he really talks interview.
Speaker 1: Just what he gives you.
Speaker 3: What he does, he gives you just enough.
Speaker 2: So you used to like the vulnerability of like being
Speaker 2: an artist and not giving too much away because again,
Speaker 2: like social media and all these like new platforms gives
Speaker 2: you that whole, Like you could give everything away if
Speaker 2: you wanted to, but like holding back a little bit
Speaker 2: more I feel like makes your artistry more intriguing and
Speaker 2: makes you still sell albums, sell concert tickets, sell all
Speaker 2: these things that are what people are striving for.
Speaker 3: This important model that we live by. It's like people
Speaker 3: always want what they can't get, what they understand, what
Speaker 3: they don't understand. Once somebody figures you out, and then
Speaker 3: what you think and what you wear, you're not interested anymore.
Speaker 3: Of course I don't want you anymore. Like it's just
Speaker 3: the way how things work.
Speaker 2: It becomes boring, it becomes not interesting, it becomes just
Speaker 2: like you expected.
Speaker 3: You got to put the normal limit only talk. Well,
Speaker 3: you got something going on, You've got shit going on,
Speaker 3: Shut the fuck up, chill out and go make a
Speaker 3: new album, make a new clothing collection, go through something
Speaker 3: to revel to. It's the culture moving forward. Sometimes people
Speaker 3: are so afraid of not being in a limelight. They
Speaker 3: don't know what it is that people. Sometimes you got
Speaker 3: to take a step back to move forward.
Speaker 1: I agree with that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So here at the Private Talk podcast, we like
Speaker 2: to push the envelope a little bit, but not all
Speaker 2: the way but a little bit.
Speaker 1: So the last segment that.
Speaker 2: We have is we have a game that we play
Speaker 2: and it's basically going to be a game with the
Speaker 2: Lexus Texas and you're going to pick a card, and
Speaker 2: whatever card that you get, based off of what simple
Speaker 2: you get, I'm going to ask you a question and
Speaker 2: you have to get a little bit more naughtier with
Speaker 2: Miss Texas. So here in Private Talk with Miss Texas,
Speaker 2: we're going to get to this game and see what
Speaker 2: Carl's questions answers are all about. So I'm going to
Speaker 2: shovele these cards. You're going to play with me, and
Speaker 2: you're going to get a little bit more intimate with
Speaker 2: Miss Texas.
Speaker 1: Are you ready, Carl?
Speaker 3: I'm so ready?
Speaker 1: Are you ready? Are you sure you're ready? I don't know.
Speaker 1: You didn't sound too ready about that.
Speaker 3: No, No, I'm good. All in all right, Brooklyn stuff.
Speaker 2: Oh all right, my family's from the Bronx. We'll do it,
Speaker 2: pick one one at a time. There you go, all right,
Speaker 2: what it is it? What kind of ace of diamonds?
Speaker 1: Diamonds? All right, so diamonds is my spicy question.
Speaker 2: So here at the Private Talk podcast, we want to
Speaker 2: know where's the craziest place you've had sex?
Speaker 3: Wow, I would say it was at Respeech Respeech in
Speaker 3: Cony Brooklyn, New York.
Speaker 1: Okay, how old, let's ut the mood.
Speaker 3: I was seventeen years old and I had a bmw oh,
Speaker 3: and we joke to the beach, get me nowhere else
Speaker 3: to go?
Speaker 1: Did you do on top of the hood of the car?
Speaker 3: No, we didn't stand by the be She was actually
Speaker 3: pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Were there people there?
Speaker 3: It was not in night time, so no one really
Speaker 3: was around. We didn't have many blankets or anything like that,
Speaker 3: so you got a lot of sand all over yourself.
Speaker 3: It didn't really work out the way I wanted to
Speaker 3: work out.
Speaker 2: What we got to there was sand though sand never goes.
Speaker 2: Sand is never a good situation because you're finding it
Speaker 2: like weeks.
Speaker 3: Later exactly, And that's kind of what got me caught
Speaker 3: out there. My girlfriend at the time sold the stand
Speaker 3: in my car and explained, how oh.
Speaker 1: So there was another girl and it wasn't your girlfriend.
Speaker 3: No, it wasn't my girlfriend. My little situations at that time,
Speaker 3: so you know, when you're young, you do things like that.
Speaker 3: So I thought it was pretty interesting because it was
Speaker 3: kind of out and open on the sand and the
Speaker 3: beach of at night, romantic of you. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: cool though.
Speaker 1: I like it. It was good, but you got romantic
Speaker 1: sex and.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's pretty spontaneous, so it happened that way for me.
Speaker 2: I'd like your honesty. Yeah, are you ready for more?
Speaker 2: Because I'm ready for more. That was just like open.
Speaker 2: That was like the prey of the Pandora. But like
Speaker 2: you pry that thing open. I've had a crowbart. Everything
Speaker 2: is bigger in Texes. Don't you be afraid to go?
Speaker 1: Let's get what do we have?
Speaker 3: What do you have? Asus? What this clubs? Ace of clubs, clubs, clubs, clubs?
Speaker 2: All right, clubs is kinky. It's a kinky question. How
Speaker 2: kinky can you get?
Speaker 3: I did get kinky on occasions? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Have you ever been attracted to your partner's best friend?
Speaker 3: Wow?
Speaker 2: Current present, past Private talk podcast with a Lexus Texas
Speaker 2: once to know.
Speaker 3: It has happened. Yes, that has happened.
Speaker 1: I never got on numerous occasions.
Speaker 3: No, on a few, okay, because you know what it
Speaker 3: is like starts with two girl and like her girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Come over, but you're like, damn, I wasted on her,
Speaker 2: and you're like her friend was way hotter, or like.
Speaker 3: A situation some times when another girl comes around and
Speaker 3: she she's like vulnerable and she was like just being
Speaker 3: really openess to her feeling.
Speaker 2: You like the vulnerability and a girl, Yeah you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So that kind of that kind of
Speaker 2: gem I see you.
Speaker 3: But then when you realize, you realize that they're just
Speaker 3: being like that. Cool. Now, when you really have the girl,
Speaker 3: then you may put all the issues on yourself, you know.
Speaker 3: Trying to say so, like at the time, it was
Speaker 3: really cool, it was very entertaining. So yeah, at the times, but.
Speaker 2: It never happened. It never followed through or maybe once
Speaker 2: or twice.
Speaker 3: Maybe once maybe on's okay, once is okay, okay once
Speaker 3: when you're younger, you got to give a pass. I
Speaker 3: don't know better.
Speaker 1: I'm just kidding. I really liked it. I'll give you
Speaker 1: a very well.
Speaker 2: I like the honesty because I will be honest, I
Speaker 2: don't think it's ever happened to me, only because like
Speaker 2: I don't know, I've also in my whole twenties with
Speaker 2: the adult entertainment industry, so if ful filled every fantasy
Speaker 2: ever had, so.
Speaker 1: It was really like different for me. So but prior to.
Speaker 2: I went to school with all these people, so I
Speaker 2: didn't really like anybody that was like somebody's friend, and
Speaker 2: it was just kind of weird.
Speaker 1: So I never had that. Yeah, but I'm.
Speaker 2: Different because I went and did porn in my twenties.
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm just different from you. You wanted fashion,
Speaker 2: I did porn. Two different walks of life. But we're
Speaker 2: still the same Gemini on.
Speaker 3: Some levels, I felt be comforting.
Speaker 1: Maybe, Oh so you feel bad for her?
Speaker 2: Oh you're so your Captain save a ho you have
Speaker 2: a cape exactly. Oh so the other part of your
Speaker 2: Gemini is you're saving the.
Speaker 1: World is one at a time?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: I like that, Carl. Can you make a cape line
Speaker 1: for your fashion line?
Speaker 2: Maybe you should have capes and it should be like
Speaker 2: Captain Save a alexis.
Speaker 1: The world we're saving one ho at a time.
Speaker 2: We'll give like one away for each like charity of
Speaker 2: a profitable thing, you know, one thought at a time,
Speaker 2: one for free for every thoughty moment.
Speaker 1: I don't really know. We'll come up as it comfortable.
Speaker 1: All right, we got we got two more cards.
Speaker 2: We got here, we go, Ok, you got that, you
Speaker 2: got that, you're comfortable with me.
Speaker 1: Ace, you got my ace?
Speaker 3: Yes, we got for you.
Speaker 1: Hmm, got what you got?
Speaker 3: What you got got the ace of hearts?
Speaker 1: Do you all right? I want to know.
Speaker 2: What it's the longest amount of time that you've gone
Speaker 2: without sex?
Speaker 1: Why do you say it so?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: Why do you laugh like it?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: This is the thing people who know Gemini is when
Speaker 2: you laugh like that, that's usually not really a great
Speaker 2: thing afterwards, because it like comes with a plot of.
Speaker 1: Something, and and also people don't know to reach your
Speaker 1: story because I want you to say it.
Speaker 2: But Gemini are very more like Gemini women when it
Speaker 2: comes to like feminine male traits of like acting on
Speaker 2: those things.
Speaker 1: But that's why I know you more than you think
Speaker 1: I know you.
Speaker 3: Car that's just scary.
Speaker 2: Don't be scared. We're in a private situation. Private talk
Speaker 2: is about an intimate conversation.
Speaker 1: Feel free with Miss Texas. I won't bite you.
Speaker 3: I got you. I got you. So the longest time,
Speaker 3: I will say, I would say it's probably two weeks.
Speaker 1: Two weeks.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Why do you feel like that was like an eternity?
Speaker 2: I feel like that was like pulling teeth.
Speaker 3: From me because I was an overseas trip in India.
Speaker 2: You sounded was such like a child like, oh, because
Speaker 2: my mother didn't give me something.
Speaker 3: Because India, in the huts, we were like living and
Speaker 3: working in factories.
Speaker 1: There was nothing there, so there was no Indian vagina.
Speaker 3: No, I do have a funny story about that.
Speaker 1: Please tell me. I want to know.
Speaker 3: So we did go back to the hotel one night,
Speaker 3: of course.
Speaker 1: Because I'll do when we're in India. There's nothing else.
Speaker 3: One of my friends homies from New York Brooklyn, named Harry.
Speaker 3: He worked for Harry, he works for the city, but
Speaker 3: he's my best friends. He used to take time off
Speaker 3: just to travel me because we had always had fun. Right,
Speaker 3: he was really backed up in India. He's backed them
Speaker 3: before he got to India.
Speaker 2: What does that mean? So he didn't have sexual relations
Speaker 2: for a very long time.
Speaker 3: Even before he got to India. So he's really backed
Speaker 3: up in India.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we.
Speaker 3: Found a guy down on this true story li to
Speaker 3: you not. We found the guy.
Speaker 1: They're not lied to me, that's some New York ship.
Speaker 1: Lied to you not.
Speaker 3: We found Lobby and we totally My mayor Harry got
Speaker 3: hooked up. He found a guy who brought his two
Speaker 3: daughters to the hotel room.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 3: His father in India has two daughters. So Harry, he said,
Speaker 3: he wants both of the daughters as he should.
Speaker 1: As he should, but that's up as a father.
Speaker 3: Well in India, things happened, Okay, obviously we brought them
Speaker 3: there and Harry the best time is life, and I said,
Speaker 3: and we and we had a flight to catch.
Speaker 1: Did you watch, Harry?
Speaker 2: Were you a cuckold in this situation or were you
Speaker 2: just like you let Harry do his thing.
Speaker 3: You had a flight to catch. You know what a
Speaker 3: cut is that?
Speaker 1: Okay, let me educate you.
Speaker 2: So cut called me. Maybe he did this with Harry.
Speaker 2: You don't even know a cut called means that you
Speaker 2: were like, you had nothing to do with this sexual encounter,
Speaker 2: but you watched in the same room.
Speaker 3: I wasn't really watching his mouth pack him because we
Speaker 3: had to catch a flight.
Speaker 2: But what happened was what happened was you're very precise
Speaker 2: about this, please.
Speaker 3: It happened in real time. Harry did what he had
Speaker 3: to do, had a great time.
Speaker 1: He had sexual relationship with twins or two.
Speaker 3: The dad was happy. They got we got paid.
Speaker 1: He paid a year.
Speaker 3: So it's really interesting. It was really fun to see
Speaker 3: Harry still relax on his trap trip back home. We
Speaker 3: had to stay with Harry married. Harry is a single guy,
Speaker 3: single dude. He went relaxed, such a happy man. That
Speaker 3: made Harry such a He was a really good guy,
Speaker 3: good friend though. That got a lot.
Speaker 2: To me to know that's a good friend because I
Speaker 2: do that stuff too. Is like, I don't reap the
Speaker 2: benefits of what Alexis Texas brings sometimes, but my friends
Speaker 2: do because I'm like, I would rather them like be
Speaker 2: happy than me. And I've I mean, I've done a lot.
Speaker 2: I mean I'm satisfied in life, so like I'd rather
Speaker 2: them like be happy. So it's yeah, it's satisfying that way.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Harry is very he should be very happy.
Speaker 2: To this day, he still talk to Harry. I still
Speaker 2: talk to Harry, my boy, does he still.
Speaker 1: Talk about this story? And that means you know it's real,
Speaker 1: because if you talk about to this day, that means
Speaker 1: it was fun.
Speaker 3: It was real. We had a good time. He was
Speaker 3: like he he released himself. He became a new person.
Speaker 3: He had pimples before you.
Speaker 2: I like how you say it, so like nonchalantly he
Speaker 2: released himself.
Speaker 3: Because honestly, he had like pimples on a chip before
Speaker 3: he came on his face and.
Speaker 2: Let my podcast people like know the private Time with
Speaker 2: the lex of Texas. We need to know what pimples are,
Speaker 2: where they are, what's going on you?
Speaker 1: A lot of things happened in the new age.
Speaker 3: He was backed up, but he's cool now, so he's
Speaker 3: my homemideing. He's a dog and a good time so
Speaker 3: it's good, all right.
Speaker 1: My favorite card we got?
Speaker 3: Wow, hey's the spades used to be a good one,
Speaker 3: I'm sure.
Speaker 2: So Spades here at prior Talk Podcast with a Lexus
Speaker 2: Taxes is my favorite card because it's just like my
Speaker 2: booty but different. So I want to know your weirdest
Speaker 2: sexual experience.
Speaker 3: Weird is sexual experience? Yeah, let me say weirdest like
Speaker 3: it is that like the time I had the most
Speaker 3: fun or something the most.
Speaker 2: Well touche to me, weird can mean something different to
Speaker 2: my podcastless listeners here, which you guys should also be
Speaker 2: subscribing and liking right now as the private podcast Talk
Speaker 2: with a Lexus Taxes. But it's up to you, so
Speaker 2: it's your discretion. Your weirdest moment if you think it's
Speaker 2: good or bad. Weird to me would be maybe like
Speaker 2: a little bit good but a little bit weird. But
Speaker 2: you still went with it, and so it was good
Speaker 2: at the end. But you know, it maybe have been
Speaker 2: a little bit trouble. You know, you're a Gemini. I know,
Speaker 2: I just saw that look kind of something happened.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: Carl Well feel free Thomas Texas with them a lot.
Speaker 3: Of weird situations. But I would say the most enlightened
Speaker 3: situation was there was a time that we're in a
Speaker 3: hotel and a lot of windows in the hotel surrounding
Speaker 3: the room, and people sort of could see in the room,
Speaker 3: kind of the voyeurs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, how many people? Was it just you and one
Speaker 2: other person? Sorry, my prefted mind is going somewhere else.
Speaker 3: Well, it was. It was more than two.
Speaker 1: So it's I mean three and you.
Speaker 3: Two plus one the three, okay, four as a crowd.
Speaker 3: Three is good. And I thought it was interesting was
Speaker 3: that the windows kind of gave it the feeling like
Speaker 3: other people could see what's going on.
Speaker 1: They can because I've been the one in the window looking.
Speaker 3: And that was because I felt sort of vulnerable at
Speaker 3: the moment, because I felt.
Speaker 1: Like they could see you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you didn't know if they were looking or
Speaker 2: they were, but you felt you were naked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you kind of made yourself come out of there.
Speaker 3: But I think what maybe more of the last This
Speaker 3: was before the era of social media and camera phones
Speaker 3: and things like that, but it kind of just made
Speaker 3: you a little bit more exciting about what was going on.
Speaker 3: Everyone was called it down with it, so I thought
Speaker 3: it was pretty cool. It was something that I would
Speaker 3: want to do again for sure. Windows exciting, Yah, windows open,
Speaker 3: windows make it exciting.
Speaker 1: I have ado.
Speaker 3: It was exciting.
Speaker 1: It was exciting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what made it exciting?
Speaker 1: It was exciting for the fact that