WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:05.240 It's nice time with Dan on WAZ Boston. 2 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:10.800 How they get it out of this system? It's it's 3 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:14.240 nine to one, you know. That's okay, Well, get him tomorrow, 4 00:00:14.279 --> 00:00:16.600 get him tomorrow, Al no doubt. 5 00:00:16.679 --> 00:00:17.879 We always have the Celtics. 6 00:00:18.480 --> 00:00:21.199 Well, that's okay, that's okay. I know that we'll focus on. 7 00:00:21.199 --> 00:00:22.920 Our focus will be in the Celtics. We'll right about 8 00:00:22.920 --> 00:00:28.559 the Bruins in the summer and Red Sox will well, 9 00:00:28.879 --> 00:00:31.039 I'll give Alex Corra Carlton. I don't give him a 10 00:00:31.039 --> 00:00:34.759 little pep talk. I'm sure that yeah, that'll that'll help. Oh, 11 00:00:34.920 --> 00:00:41.759 I'm sure sure. Thanks appreciate it. All right, everybody, we 12 00:00:41.920 --> 00:00:48.960 are changing topics and want to welcome Mark Philbin. Mark Philbin, welcome, 13 00:00:48.960 --> 00:00:49.640 How are you tonight? 14 00:00:50.640 --> 00:00:50.840 Good? 15 00:00:50.920 --> 00:00:52.280 Damn? How are you good? 16 00:00:52.359 --> 00:00:56.719 Mark's a project developer for charlie Ian Renovations out of Cambridge. 17 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:00.840 They do what's called residential design build and we're going 18 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:06.439 to explain that and if you have any questions about, 19 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:09.680 you know, doing some substantial work in your home. We've 20 00:01:09.719 --> 00:01:14.640 never had someone who's a project developer on before, so Mark. 21 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:19.319 We like to sort of give people something positive to 22 00:01:19.319 --> 00:01:22.040 think about. We spend most of the week, the ninety 23 00:01:22.079 --> 00:01:25.079 percent of the week arguing about politics or dealing with 24 00:01:25.159 --> 00:01:29.280 serious issues like we did last hour with an innocent 25 00:01:29.359 --> 00:01:31.719 man spending fifteen years in prison for a crime he 26 00:01:31.760 --> 00:01:34.319 didn't commit. So we like to kind of exhale here 27 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:39.319 and focus on happier things. And there's nothing that is 28 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:43.359 happier than when people do some work at their home 29 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.519 and make the home more comfortable, more livable, and in 30 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:51.599 some respects I guess, more modern. So tell us first 31 00:01:51.640 --> 00:01:54.920 of all, tell us about Charlie in renovations out of Cambridge. 32 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:58.599 It's been around I guess since what the late seventies, 33 00:01:58.599 --> 00:02:01.959 early eighties. You folks have quite a reputation and you 34 00:02:02.000 --> 00:02:06.159 confine your work to the great Boston area. You you 35 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:10.360 really are people who want to do a good job. 36 00:02:10.639 --> 00:02:13.000 From what I understand you've got You've got some great 37 00:02:14.719 --> 00:02:17.159 some great references from people that I've talked to. So 38 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:19.719 you can brag a little bit about the company. It's uh, 39 00:02:20.000 --> 00:02:21.719 it does some great work. Tell us about it. 40 00:02:22.560 --> 00:02:25.479 Well, we do a large part of what we try 41 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.280 to do. It's not just the end result of the project. 42 00:02:28.280 --> 00:02:32.919 That's the entire process, uh, which we the design build 43 00:02:32.960 --> 00:02:36.919 process has us as the remodeler in on the ground floor. 44 00:02:37.000 --> 00:02:39.840 We like to take the project from really from its inception, 45 00:02:40.280 --> 00:02:42.800 you know, all the way to a you know, feigns 46 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.280 pick job book, right to the completion of the job. 47 00:02:45.360 --> 00:02:48.120 So we do a lot of handholding with the clients. 48 00:02:48.639 --> 00:02:52.240 We try to help with the design. We work with 49 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:57.680 the architect and the homeowner together and uh and that 50 00:02:57.759 --> 00:03:01.879 we think actually is what makes for better project experience. 51 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:06.000 It's not just the end project, it's the whole process. 52 00:03:06.240 --> 00:03:09.039 Working in people's home is is pretty traumatic, as you 53 00:03:09.080 --> 00:03:13.120 can imagine, tearing apart your kitchen and your bathrooms, sometimes 54 00:03:13.120 --> 00:03:16.919 half your house. So that's easy thing to live through. 55 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:18.639 And so a large part of it we do is 56 00:03:18.639 --> 00:03:20.719 to try to develop the project properly in a way 57 00:03:20.719 --> 00:03:23.400 that makes that as smooth as possible. 58 00:03:23.800 --> 00:03:26.759 Yeah, well that's the first question anyone who has lived 59 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:29.439 in a house for you know, more than ten years 60 00:03:29.520 --> 00:03:33.039 and someone says, oh, gee, you know, the bathroom's looking 61 00:03:33.080 --> 00:03:35.719 a little shabby, or the kitchen needs to be updated, 62 00:03:35.840 --> 00:03:38.439 or maybe we've got to do some work and maybe 63 00:03:38.960 --> 00:03:43.120 expand something or develop a family room, whatever, whatever the 64 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.560 project might be. How do you do that? So people? 65 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:50.479 Do people have to move out for like three or 66 00:03:50.479 --> 00:03:52.800 four months, or how do you work around them so 67 00:03:52.840 --> 00:03:55.479 that they can live their lives and not have to 68 00:03:55.560 --> 00:03:56.599 evacuate the home. 69 00:03:57.520 --> 00:03:59.400 Well, we've done it, you know, both ways. We've done 70 00:03:59.400 --> 00:04:02.919 remodels of course that are on a scale where people 71 00:04:03.000 --> 00:04:04.840 do have to move out. They just can't live there, 72 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.240 no bathrooms, no kitchen, and so some people who actually 73 00:04:09.240 --> 00:04:11.000 have to move out, But for the most part, you know, 74 00:04:11.039 --> 00:04:13.479 if it's a kitchen, well we'll set up a temporary 75 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:15.759 kitchen in the dining room that people can function out 76 00:04:15.800 --> 00:04:17.720 of as long as you have a you know, a 77 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:21.839 source of water and a place to cook. We will 78 00:04:21.879 --> 00:04:24.199 typically set something up like that when we do a kitchen. 79 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.879 A model bathroom remodels a little more difficult. If you 80 00:04:27.920 --> 00:04:30.079 have two or three bathrooms, it makes it a little 81 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:34.000 bit easier. And what we'll typically do is the cordon 82 00:04:34.040 --> 00:04:36.680 open area that the work is being done. We plastic 83 00:04:36.720 --> 00:04:39.560 off a section of the house and have a separate 84 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:42.480 interest for the contractors and we try to make it 85 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:48.120 as easy as possible for people that way. And and 86 00:04:48.160 --> 00:04:50.279 so it depends, it depends on the scale of the project, 87 00:04:50.279 --> 00:04:52.079 whether people have to move out or whether they can 88 00:04:52.279 --> 00:04:54.759 actually live through the house, live in the house, you know, 89 00:04:54.800 --> 00:04:55.560 during the remodel. 90 00:04:57.079 --> 00:04:59.800 I assume that a lot of you work. I don't 91 00:04:59.800 --> 00:05:03.439 think did you advertise From what I can see, I'm 92 00:05:03.800 --> 00:05:07.399 not familiar with the company. I'm not even familiar with 93 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:12.319 the whole idea of house renovations. I'm assuming that that 94 00:05:12.480 --> 00:05:16.480 you must rely upon word of mouth advertising more than 95 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:22.920 most most companies that do any level of remodeling. Yeah. 96 00:05:22.920 --> 00:05:26.160 Absolutely, Yeah, we don't really have We don't do any advertising. 97 00:05:26.240 --> 00:05:28.399 It's it's word of mouth. We do have a website, 98 00:05:28.720 --> 00:05:32.439 people can people can find us on a website. We 99 00:05:32.519 --> 00:05:35.519 also belong to something we encourage to, you know, clients 100 00:05:35.560 --> 00:05:39.160 who are looking for a remodel, remodeler or any kind 101 00:05:39.160 --> 00:05:42.279 of professional contractor is We belong to trade organizations so 102 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:45.720 people look up. You know, some of the trade organizations 103 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.959 for builders and modelers were members of all the main 104 00:05:49.120 --> 00:05:53.439 trade groups in New England. And that's a that's a 105 00:05:53.480 --> 00:05:59.079 great resource for people to find, whether it's a contractor electrician, commer, architect, 106 00:06:00.240 --> 00:06:02.959 and so we get some work to that as well. 107 00:06:03.720 --> 00:06:06.920 So what are the I'm looking at, like, what are 108 00:06:06.959 --> 00:06:10.360 the trends? I mean, I know that that depending I'm 109 00:06:10.399 --> 00:06:17.319 not particularly observant, if you will. When I'm invited to 110 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:21.800 someone's home, I tend not to make judgments. But there 111 00:06:21.800 --> 00:06:23.680 are some people who will walk in and they'll be 112 00:06:23.759 --> 00:06:27.000 kind of looking around and they'll say, gee, this this 113 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:31.079 home is looking very nineteen seventy ish and here we 114 00:06:31.120 --> 00:06:36.560 are fifty years later. What sort of businesses? What's the 115 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.879 latest trends in terms of what people are looking for 116 00:06:42.240 --> 00:06:45.839 looking they looking to update or renovate and is there 117 00:06:45.920 --> 00:06:48.360 much of a difference between updating and renovation. 118 00:06:49.319 --> 00:06:50.959 Well, that's sort of the same. I mean, most of 119 00:06:51.000 --> 00:06:53.480 it is updating. There's sort of that sort of a 120 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:56.800 two pronged question. There's what people are looking for from 121 00:06:56.839 --> 00:07:01.079 a sort of a design standpoint. Is it hasn't changed 122 00:07:01.079 --> 00:07:03.800 a lot. You know, working in the Greater Boston area, 123 00:07:03.839 --> 00:07:06.720 people looking for open floor plans as opposed to a 124 00:07:06.759 --> 00:07:08.879 lot of New England homes are cut up into small 125 00:07:08.959 --> 00:07:12.240 rooms and so we open up the floor plans doing 126 00:07:12.279 --> 00:07:14.720 some structural work. So people want to have a much 127 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:20.000 more flow through their living space. That's still popular, has 128 00:07:20.000 --> 00:07:24.240 been for quite a while, and more people looking for 129 00:07:24.439 --> 00:07:27.199 to get away from looking for more sort of I 130 00:07:27.279 --> 00:07:31.399 call it urban chicic, it's clean designs, sleek modern sort 131 00:07:31.439 --> 00:07:34.480 of mid century modern look is what people are after 132 00:07:34.560 --> 00:07:38.519 right now as opposed to older New England charms. 133 00:07:40.120 --> 00:07:44.399 When you say mid century modern, look, we're not either 134 00:07:44.720 --> 00:07:48.759 at mid twentieth or mid twenty first century. Define that 135 00:07:48.800 --> 00:07:49.800 for me a little bit more. 136 00:07:50.120 --> 00:07:52.680 That's sort of it would be it's post World War 137 00:07:52.720 --> 00:07:57.759 two and it's a lot of wood tones, fabric, warm, 138 00:07:57.879 --> 00:08:03.079 warm tones, earth tones, that sort of thing. It's sort 139 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:05.879 of you know, the fifties, you know, post World War 140 00:08:05.879 --> 00:08:06.879 two into the fifties. 141 00:08:08.079 --> 00:08:12.079 So what I'm hearing on that say is that maybe 142 00:08:12.800 --> 00:08:15.759 things that were popular that went out of style are 143 00:08:15.800 --> 00:08:18.560 now coming back, you know, coming back in style. 144 00:08:19.319 --> 00:08:21.120 Yeah, yeah, that's isn't that always the way? 145 00:08:22.079 --> 00:08:27.480 Well that's interesting. There might be some people, yeah, well 146 00:08:27.519 --> 00:08:29.439 there might be some people who are listening who have 147 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:33.039 never done any sort of a design build or a 148 00:08:33.120 --> 00:08:36.559 design rebuild at their home, who now they might be 149 00:08:37.039 --> 00:08:39.840 pleased to hear that, because they're going to say, no 150 00:08:39.879 --> 00:08:42.559 sense of changing. Now we're back, We're back in style. 151 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:46.200 But my guess is Mark philban Mark is a design 152 00:08:46.279 --> 00:08:49.919 build contractor with a company called Charlie Allen Renovations. Out 153 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.639 of Cambridge. We've never done a show. We've done probably 154 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:57.080 now close to forty one hundred shows. We're never done 155 00:08:57.159 --> 00:09:02.480 with a with a project developer a this magnitude. His 156 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:06.679 company H does residential design builds, so you don't do commercial. 157 00:09:06.720 --> 00:09:08.759 It's all residential, right it is. 158 00:09:08.840 --> 00:09:10.840 Yeah, we used to do some small commercial, but it's 159 00:09:10.879 --> 00:09:13.039 it's pretty much all residential now. Yeah. 160 00:09:13.120 --> 00:09:16.000 Okay, Well, I'm sure that there are folks out there 161 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.720 who know more about this subject than I do. Uh, 162 00:09:19.759 --> 00:09:21.240 And so I'm going to invite then we join the 163 00:09:21.240 --> 00:09:24.000 conversation at six one seven, two five four ten thirty 164 00:09:24.559 --> 00:09:27.840 or six one seven nine three one ten thirty. If 165 00:09:27.879 --> 00:09:30.759 you have a question about your home, or you have 166 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:34.240 a question about what you would like to see developed 167 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.559 for your home, you got an opportunity here. Feel free 168 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:40.879 to join the conversation. I'll continue my questions with Mark 169 00:09:40.919 --> 00:09:44.519 Philbern who is a design build contractor with Charlie Allen 170 00:09:44.600 --> 00:09:48.519 Renovations out of Cambridge. And again this is we try 171 00:09:48.559 --> 00:09:53.000 to do some different topics, folks, and we do. If 172 00:09:53.039 --> 00:09:55.480 you want to show that does the same political show 173 00:09:55.559 --> 00:09:58.440 night after night after night, and we we mix it up. 174 00:09:58.480 --> 00:10:02.399 We try to have stuff and guests which will be 175 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:07.000 of interest two different people, and hopefully Mark is going 176 00:10:07.039 --> 00:10:08.480 to be of interest to you. And if you have 177 00:10:08.519 --> 00:10:10.679 a question, you know the number. Give us a call. 178 00:10:10.720 --> 00:10:11.799 Coming right back on night. 179 00:10:11.720 --> 00:10:18.399 Side Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ, Boston's news radio. 180 00:10:18.960 --> 00:10:22.399 We're talking with Mark Philman. He's a design build contractor 181 00:10:22.519 --> 00:10:26.039 with a company called Charlie Allen Renovations out of Cambridge. 182 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:29.720 That company has been around for about forty five years. 183 00:10:30.639 --> 00:10:33.519 The fellow who was the founder, I guess kind of 184 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:37.000 an interesting backstory. Mark, he was a student at Harvard 185 00:10:38.120 --> 00:10:42.080 and he decided to start his own company, and eventually 186 00:10:42.120 --> 00:10:44.840 he retired and moved back to the state of Washington. 187 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:48.720 And this is a company that's been around for a 188 00:10:48.759 --> 00:10:51.320 long time. Are you right in Harvard Square, per se 189 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:53.000 or where are you located in Cambridge? 190 00:10:53.600 --> 00:10:57.720 Actually not Harvard Square. We are in Central Square, Central Square, 191 00:10:57.840 --> 00:11:01.399 well right in between between Mit and Harvard. 192 00:11:01.919 --> 00:11:05.639 Yep. Absolutely, So there's a lot that we can talk about. 193 00:11:05.639 --> 00:11:05.720 This. 194 00:11:05.879 --> 00:11:08.440 By the way, the name Mark Philbin. Mark writes a 195 00:11:08.480 --> 00:11:13.120 biweekly advice column in the Globe, Ask the Remodeler, and 196 00:11:13.480 --> 00:11:17.200 this is this is your opportunity to ask him a 197 00:11:17.279 --> 00:11:20.679 question directly. So there's a lot that you and I 198 00:11:20.720 --> 00:11:26.440 can talk about here in terms of well even the 199 00:11:26.559 --> 00:11:31.360 timing here that we're talking about tariffs, and without getting 200 00:11:31.399 --> 00:11:34.440 into the politics of it, this is going to cause 201 00:11:34.519 --> 00:11:38.759 I assume some turbulence for your business if these tariffs 202 00:11:38.840 --> 00:11:41.919 are in place for any period of time, without making 203 00:11:41.960 --> 00:11:44.039 a comment politically or otherwise. 204 00:11:43.600 --> 00:11:47.519 Correct, absolutely, as all righty, it's a question that comes up, 205 00:11:47.759 --> 00:11:50.480 excuse me, with a lot of our clients projects we're 206 00:11:50.480 --> 00:11:53.320 putting together now, they're concerned about should I buy it now, 207 00:11:53.960 --> 00:11:56.879 will it be more expensive you know two months from 208 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:59.600 now when I really need it, will it be available 209 00:11:59.639 --> 00:12:02.480 at all? So the question is coming up quite a bit. 210 00:12:02.919 --> 00:12:06.320 And of course you know price of lumber is expensive enough. 211 00:12:07.600 --> 00:12:09.919 Well we get a lot of well we get a 212 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:11.799 lot of lumber out of Canada. 213 00:12:11.440 --> 00:12:14.080 Right totally that most most of it comes from Canada. 214 00:12:14.600 --> 00:12:17.000 So why do we not create what? Why do we 215 00:12:16.799 --> 00:12:19.159 know we used to have mills here in New England, 216 00:12:20.120 --> 00:12:25.080 you know, lumber mills. Did they just go away? I 217 00:12:25.120 --> 00:12:28.279 don't understand. I can understand they sent the chips over 218 00:12:28.320 --> 00:12:32.240 to Taiwan. Again, not getting political, why was it that 219 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:35.399 that you know, these lumber manufacturers we now have to 220 00:12:35.440 --> 00:12:38.440 rely on Canada. We have we have a lot of 221 00:12:38.519 --> 00:12:42.480 lumber and a lot of trees. Anytime any fly, anytime 222 00:12:42.519 --> 00:12:44.799 I fly across the country, I love to look down 223 00:12:45.200 --> 00:12:47.879 and see all the wide open spaces and the forests 224 00:12:47.919 --> 00:12:50.320 and all of that. But what's the history of that. 225 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:52.480 I mean, there used to be lumber mills up up 226 00:12:52.559 --> 00:12:52.960 in Maine. 227 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:56.600 Correct, Well, most of those are paper mills. Most of 228 00:12:56.639 --> 00:12:59.399 the lumber, you know that came out of New England. 229 00:12:59.559 --> 00:13:02.639 You know, they harvested all the old growth wood was 230 00:13:02.720 --> 00:13:05.360 paper mills up in Maine. It was all that was 231 00:13:05.399 --> 00:13:08.679 all for paper, and so it was never really not 232 00:13:08.879 --> 00:13:11.240 much lumber. The reason it really comes out of Pacific 233 00:13:11.240 --> 00:13:14.039 Northwest is they have more trees. They have more trees, 234 00:13:14.080 --> 00:13:17.200 and and the type of trees that that we need 235 00:13:17.240 --> 00:13:19.879 for building, the spruce and the and the you know, 236 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:23.399 the redwoods and the cedar's just far more plentful. And 237 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:24.960 a lot. It does also have to do with our 238 00:13:25.039 --> 00:13:28.600 environmental laws are a little stricter than Canada, so it's 239 00:13:28.600 --> 00:13:35.159 harder to cut them down in the Pacific Northwest. 240 00:13:36.200 --> 00:13:38.600 No, I get it, and I guess once once again 241 00:13:38.639 --> 00:13:41.559 we've for for good purposes. We put ourselves in a 242 00:13:41.559 --> 00:13:45.159 bit of a bind here because if these tariffs do 243 00:13:45.240 --> 00:13:48.559 hold for some period of time, uh, it's only going 244 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.559 to be more expensive here in Massachusetts. Again, I love trees, 245 00:13:51.600 --> 00:13:55.559 don't get me wrong, but uh you good replant trees. 246 00:13:56.240 --> 00:13:59.559 I realized that. But anyway, let's let's get let's see 247 00:13:59.559 --> 00:14:01.759 if we get some halls incorporated here. There's so many 248 00:14:01.799 --> 00:14:03.519 other topics that I want to get to. I want 249 00:14:03.559 --> 00:14:06.039 to get to. Uh, you know, what are the most 250 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:08.639 important factors? What are the challenges? We get to all 251 00:14:08.679 --> 00:14:11.639 of that in the cape in on Cape car on Cape. 252 00:14:12.000 --> 00:14:13.360 I actually and how. 253 00:14:13.200 --> 00:14:16.279 Are you, Hi, Dan? How are you? 254 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:18.919 I'm doing great? So I had a mark Philbin. Do 255 00:14:18.919 --> 00:14:20.840 you have a question? Mark? 256 00:14:21.159 --> 00:14:26.120 Hello, mister Philman. Can I ask a question? Hi? Can 257 00:14:26.200 --> 00:14:29.000 I ask a question on roofing? 258 00:14:29.799 --> 00:14:31.759 Yes? Go right ahead. Sure, that's why he's here. 259 00:14:31.840 --> 00:14:36.840 Go ahead, Okay, thank you. I have a an a 260 00:14:37.120 --> 00:14:43.759 framed pitched roof, and I had it. I had a 261 00:14:43.799 --> 00:14:46.919 new roof put on twenty five years ago, and it 262 00:14:47.120 --> 00:14:51.159 was the second layer. And so I have just a 263 00:14:53.039 --> 00:14:59.320 just a little handful of quick questions. For instance, my 264 00:14:59.440 --> 00:15:02.000 first the first time I had my roof downe twenty 265 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:05.960 five years ago, I had a small contracting company in 266 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:09.919 my city do the job, and he had all his 267 00:15:09.919 --> 00:15:15.360 own guys. Now I'm finding that the roofing companies do 268 00:15:15.519 --> 00:15:19.840 not have their own men and they use a preferred 269 00:15:20.399 --> 00:15:25.679 roofing company. And I have so many questions. 270 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:28.759 Well, let's try to end. Let me do this. Don't 271 00:15:28.799 --> 00:15:32.200 be nervous. Yeah, why don't you ask whatever questions you want? 272 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:35.080 The history is interesting, But what what would you like 273 00:15:35.120 --> 00:15:36.440 to ask? Mark? Go ahead? 274 00:15:37.399 --> 00:15:40.240 I'd like to ask if a company has their own 275 00:15:40.320 --> 00:15:45.480 preferred roofing people to do the roof that they that 276 00:15:45.519 --> 00:15:54.559 they source out, who who holds the oh, the type 277 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:59.279 of insurance workmen's compensation insurance? Would it be the company 278 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:05.879 that actually is the company, the roofing company or the preferred. 279 00:16:05.399 --> 00:16:10.480 Company whoever you're It sounds like you're hiring a larger 280 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.600 company that subs it out. There are plenty of roofing companies. 281 00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:15.720 Kind of going back with a little bit, plenty of 282 00:16:15.720 --> 00:16:20.360 companies out there are owner they're basically its owner run business. 283 00:16:20.399 --> 00:16:22.799 They actually don't sub it out. It is their own employees, 284 00:16:22.840 --> 00:16:26.279 so you can find them. There's plenty of them out there. 285 00:16:26.279 --> 00:16:29.080 That's who we use. We use a company whose owner 286 00:16:29.159 --> 00:16:31.639 is up on the roof with the rest of the crew. 287 00:16:32.480 --> 00:16:35.039 That said, if you hire a larger company that's subbing 288 00:16:35.039 --> 00:16:36.720 it out, you want to make sure that the larger 289 00:16:36.759 --> 00:16:40.080 whoever you are writing the check to is that's who 290 00:16:40.080 --> 00:16:44.879 you want to have the insurance policy for. And an 291 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:49.759 important note here is too, they should have workers' compensation 292 00:16:50.080 --> 00:16:52.840 as well as liability insurance. They should have both. You 293 00:16:52.879 --> 00:16:54.440 want to make sure that you can get both those 294 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:58.279 insurance certificates, and you want to call their insurance company 295 00:16:58.720 --> 00:17:01.480 to get that sent over. Don't just ask the contractor 296 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:04.359 for it, ask for their insurance company and have it 297 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:09.119 emailed over directly from the insurance company. And that's really important. 298 00:17:09.119 --> 00:17:10.960 To get it from the insurance company, not from the 299 00:17:11.559 --> 00:17:14.079 not from the company itself. That's how we do it. 300 00:17:14.519 --> 00:17:16.720 The other phrase that I've heard don't mean to interrupt in, 301 00:17:16.759 --> 00:17:18.759 but the other phrase that I've had is company who say, well, 302 00:17:18.799 --> 00:17:21.880 we're bonded to do this work. Is that another way 303 00:17:21.920 --> 00:17:24.559 of saying we have the we have the adequate insurance. 304 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.279 That's sort of it's sort of the same thing. Usually 305 00:17:27.319 --> 00:17:29.680 typically when you're dealing with a bond, you're doing the 306 00:17:30.359 --> 00:17:32.400 municipal work. You know, we get a bond. If we 307 00:17:32.440 --> 00:17:34.680 have to work on a sidewalk, we have to buy 308 00:17:34.720 --> 00:17:37.480 a bond from our insurance company to do sidewalk work. 309 00:17:37.720 --> 00:17:40.599 It's because it's a public you know, public access, so 310 00:17:40.640 --> 00:17:43.039 it's sort of the same thing. A bond is sort 311 00:17:43.079 --> 00:17:45.920 of an insurance policy, but typically it's for municipal work, 312 00:17:46.000 --> 00:17:48.319 not not HOMEO to work. 313 00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.400 And don't and don't take the word of the company, 314 00:17:51.559 --> 00:17:54.400 Oh yeah, we're insured. You want to see the actual 315 00:17:54.480 --> 00:17:58.200 documentation that proves that they are insured. And are they 316 00:17:58.240 --> 00:18:02.640 insured for Ian's specific work? Are they ensured generally? Does 317 00:18:02.680 --> 00:18:06.440 their policy run to the particular client that they're working with, 318 00:18:06.559 --> 00:18:09.799 or is it more a general liability policy. 319 00:18:10.240 --> 00:18:12.759 It's no, it should It's usually it's a general liability 320 00:18:12.759 --> 00:18:15.839 policy and a general workers compensation and you want to 321 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.160 make sure you get both. It's important to when you 322 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:20.680 talk to the insurance company, they should put the bottom 323 00:18:21.000 --> 00:18:23.400 they're all the same form. The bottom left hand corner 324 00:18:23.440 --> 00:18:26.000 of the insurance policy should say a certificate holder and 325 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:27.480 your name should be in there. 326 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:31.599 What kind of question when I call the insurance company? 327 00:18:31.839 --> 00:18:34.440 What kind of question am I supposed to be asking them? 328 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:36.839 Ask them, tell them you know the name of the 329 00:18:36.839 --> 00:18:38.799 company that you want to hire for the roofs, and 330 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:41.079 tell them you'd like to have a copy of their 331 00:18:41.119 --> 00:18:44.759 liability policy and their workers compensation policy. You want to 332 00:18:44.759 --> 00:18:45.519 have both. 333 00:18:46.759 --> 00:18:51.680 And the policy that has been purchased by the company 334 00:18:51.680 --> 00:18:52.839 that's doing the work for you. 335 00:18:52.960 --> 00:18:54.720 In Okay, I. 336 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.079 Understand, I completely stand. I have one more quick question, 337 00:18:59.240 --> 00:19:04.359 may I okay? Thank you? So, mister Philman, my a 338 00:19:04.559 --> 00:19:08.759 framed roof, if I have a company do it. I've 339 00:19:08.960 --> 00:19:11.720 spoken to a few and they say they do the 340 00:19:11.839 --> 00:19:16.359 roof in one entire day. So my house is one 341 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.720 hundred and twenty five years old, and I'm thinking and 342 00:19:19.839 --> 00:19:25.440 visualizing everything is torn off my roof, the two layers 343 00:19:25.480 --> 00:19:30.480 of roofing, and probably the decking, the wood, the decking. 344 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:34.640 Probably I don't even have a decking. I have actual 345 00:19:34.960 --> 00:19:40.400 old fashioned studs and their big spaces in between. So 346 00:19:40.440 --> 00:19:44.440 I'm thinking, if everything comes off the roof, including my studs, 347 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:48.039 is my house gonna is? When my house collapse like 348 00:19:48.079 --> 00:19:51.720 a deck of cards. Well, with you thing holding the 349 00:19:51.799 --> 00:19:54.160 top together, Well. 350 00:19:54.359 --> 00:19:57.400 They're not going to take the raptors out. You're called sheathing. 351 00:19:57.480 --> 00:19:59.519 You're talking about the old boards are gonna probably have 352 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:01.400 to come up. They don't all have to come off. 353 00:20:01.440 --> 00:20:04.200 Sometimes you can just replace the rotted ones with plywood. 354 00:20:04.519 --> 00:20:07.559 We do that fairly often, so you don't necessarily have 355 00:20:07.680 --> 00:20:09.359 to take all that off. I'd say, if they're going 356 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:11.359 to replace all the sheathing on your roof, it's it's 357 00:20:11.400 --> 00:20:13.759 it's going to be more than a day. That's quite 358 00:20:13.799 --> 00:20:15.920 a bit of work to replace all the wood sheathing 359 00:20:15.960 --> 00:20:16.279 on top. 360 00:20:17.480 --> 00:20:18.039 Yeah, do. 361 00:20:19.799 --> 00:20:20.279 You have anything? 362 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.200 Yeah, let me jump in for a second and get 363 00:20:24.240 --> 00:20:28.480 more than one quotation and make sure you're dealing with 364 00:20:28.519 --> 00:20:30.440 at least a couple of good companies. Go ahead, Mark, 365 00:20:30.440 --> 00:20:31.839 I'm sorry I interrupted you. Go ahead. 366 00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:34.279 Yeah. Do you have you have things stored in the attic? 367 00:20:35.920 --> 00:20:39.799 No? No, I do not. Just my I had. I 368 00:20:39.839 --> 00:20:44.680 had the floor of my of my attic all thoroughly insulated. 369 00:20:44.920 --> 00:20:47.000 So should I ask them I probably should ask them 370 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:50.119 to have a covering to protect all that insulation from 371 00:20:50.119 --> 00:20:55.160 all like the fives and nails and all kinds of deboos. 372 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:57.240 That's what I was suggesting. It's going to be really 373 00:20:57.279 --> 00:20:59.640 really messy down there. It's gonna just there's so much 374 00:20:59.680 --> 00:21:02.880 to bring. It was going to rain from the rope absolutely, 375 00:21:03.039 --> 00:21:04.799 it'll be really really messy. 376 00:21:05.440 --> 00:21:06.960 All right, Anne, I got to let you go out. 377 00:21:07.000 --> 00:21:08.920 You got a lot of good information. Thank you for 378 00:21:08.960 --> 00:21:12.440 the call, talk to you so I have a great night. 379 00:21:12.559 --> 00:21:16.160 Good night, Mark. Very comprehensive answers appreciated. We're going to 380 00:21:16.160 --> 00:21:17.720 take a quick break out of news at the bottom 381 00:21:17.759 --> 00:21:20.240 of the Ara back with my guest, Mark Philbin, a 382 00:21:20.319 --> 00:21:23.680 design build contractor with a company called Charlie Allen Renovations 383 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:25.880 out of Cambridge. If you have a question like and did, 384 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:28.319 you were more than welcome to join the conversation back 385 00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:31.880 on Nightside after this, It's. 386 00:21:31.839 --> 00:21:36.240 Night Side with Boston's news Radio. 387 00:21:37.799 --> 00:21:39.880 Mark, we got more phone calls here. Let me just 388 00:21:39.920 --> 00:21:47.480 real quickly. You mentioned that the concept of sustainability, uh 389 00:21:47.839 --> 00:21:50.640 in the materials that you that are used and also 390 00:21:50.880 --> 00:21:55.200 the energy conservation products that are chosen is important. What 391 00:21:55.240 --> 00:21:57.680 does that mean when you talk about sustainability, I mean 392 00:21:57.720 --> 00:21:59.839 something that's going to last long, is what I guess 393 00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:01.920 you you're referring to correct. 394 00:22:02.720 --> 00:22:07.799 Well, not exactly. It really is. Sustainability is more sustainability 395 00:22:07.839 --> 00:22:11.640 of our planet. Earlier we were talking about trends and 396 00:22:12.119 --> 00:22:14.680 I'd mentioned it's sort of a two pronged question. A 397 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:16.799 lot of the trends that we're seeing now beyond just 398 00:22:16.839 --> 00:22:20.359 the design as the materials that we're using now, and 399 00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:22.640 that has to do with the sustainability, has to do 400 00:22:22.680 --> 00:22:25.920 with the sustainability of the planet. People want to have 401 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:32.160