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<v Speaker 1>Ah, Yes, Ben and Skin Show ninety some point one

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<v Speaker 1>The Eagle, thank you for hanging out with us today.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget tomorrow. Christina's back.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben won't be back till Tuesday, but me and Kat

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<v Speaker 1>and Christina are going to play the best clips of

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<v Speaker 1>our show from the year twenty twenty four.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Kat has selected these I don't know what they are,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he went and had listeners vote. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>even know the ones you picked. So you have the results.

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<v Speaker 1>It's all tallied, right, yes, and it's all ranked the

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<v Speaker 1>top twenty four of the year.

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<v Speaker 2>It's gonna be fun. Okay, It's always fun. I trust enough,

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<v Speaker 2>I trust you, dude.

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<v Speaker 3>You.

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<v Speaker 2>On Friday, I was in my cards. We did the

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<v Speaker 2>best off and it was the old twenty twenty one countdown.

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<v Speaker 2>Uh huh, just kind of a blash in the past. Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>Pretty crazy, yep, So it'll be fun. Twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>That was so okay with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hold on, I gotta do the math so that

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<v Speaker 1>we would have been at the Eagle for a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half by the yeah, okay, gotcha.

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<v Speaker 2>I think is I want to say, when did you

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<v Speaker 2>get cancer?

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<v Speaker 1>I got cancer? Oh, at the end of twenty twenty one. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because well I knew I had it. I had the

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<v Speaker 1>surgery in December of twenty twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, man, that was a fun year, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>When I had cancer? So anyways, tomorrow is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be a blast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to throw down the clips of the year

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<v Speaker 1>as determined by you, the Eagle listener. What's coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in the Weekday Update here in like thirty minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we've had some break ins locally, thefts involving some

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<v Speaker 2>of our most famous athletic superstars in town. Okay, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to all that.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw a movie yesterday and I do want to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it, but before we do that, the Weekday

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<v Speaker 1>Update is so jam packed. This is the kind of

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<v Speaker 1>thing normally we would put in the Weekday Update, but

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of deserves its own space because President Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter, who was the first president that I remember

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I have memories of Wow, Okay, yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I have a distinct memories of Jimmy Carter being on

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<v Speaker 1>the news. And this is back when there was only

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<v Speaker 1>three channels and PBS, Fox wasn't even a thing yet.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about Fox news.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm about Fox that shows The Simpsons didn't even exist yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You had CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS, and then a

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<v Speaker 1>couple like Local, you know, that would show what hapening reruns.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you turned on the news in the late seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>all you saw was people freaking out over inflation. Then

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<v Speaker 1>you saw people freaking out over gas prices. I vividly

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<v Speaker 1>remember news footage of lines wrapped around the block of

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<v Speaker 1>people waiting to get gas there was a gas shortage.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had the hostages in Iran, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was the three things that it's all they talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>And it just felt like even as a you know,

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<v Speaker 1>seven year old or eight year old, you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>standing in the living room and the television is on,

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<v Speaker 1>and you can feel you don't understand the complexity of

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<v Speaker 1>adults are acting, You feel what is coming through your television.

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<v Speaker 1>Even as a seven or eight year old, I sat

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<v Speaker 1>there and thought, so, it's all that guy's fault, huh,

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<v Speaker 1>Because that's the.

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<v Speaker 2>Way it was presented. I'm telling you sure everything was

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<v Speaker 2>presented as Jimmy Carter is the worst president ever, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's the end of the world. Well, and he was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, taking over for Gerald Ford, who took over

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<v Speaker 2>for Nixon, right right, So, and then it was him

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<v Speaker 2>versus Gerald Ford. Yes, in seventy six. I say, I've

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<v Speaker 2>always had a high opinion of presidents because my first

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<v Speaker 2>president that I remember is Bill Clinton. So I remember

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<v Speaker 2>maybe some Dana Carvey doing George H. W. Bush, but

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<v Speaker 2>remembering him in action. No, remembering Clinton in action. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>when you're ten and you're saying impeachment headlines and you're

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<v Speaker 2>right for what? Oh for that. Carter's presidency was such

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<v Speaker 2>a disaster. We got twelve years of Republican government, you

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<v Speaker 2>had eight years of Reagan, and then his vice president

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<v Speaker 2>Bush went up against Ducaucus. I think so too, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even think it was I mean it was

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<v Speaker 2>they mopped the floor. He mopped the floor with Ducaucus.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is all. Did you mention the Cold War two?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you say that it was?

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<v Speaker 1>To me, I associate more of that with the escalation

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<v Speaker 1>of the nuclear crisis, and to me, that's an eighties thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't think Now, the Cold War started in the sixties, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>but I thought more about the Cold War when it

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<v Speaker 1>was the eighties and Reagan was the president and Gorbachev

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<v Speaker 1>was the was the Russian.

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<v Speaker 2>And whatever minis or whatever he's prime minister. So I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't think about that that much back then.

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<v Speaker 1>But when I was in school in the eighties, we

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<v Speaker 1>had you know, uh, nuclear bomb drills and there was

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<v Speaker 1>even a remove there was a made for TV movie

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<v Speaker 1>was all the hype of the eighties.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did they show that trying to freak us out?

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<v Speaker 2>Man good? Really? Well. The the thing about Jimmy Carter

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<v Speaker 2>is I remember, you know, when he was put in hospice. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>he's been hospital for two years, and then obviously his

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<v Speaker 2>wife Roslynd passed in twenty twenty three. I think most

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<v Speaker 2>famously the picture of Joe and Jill Biden kneeling down

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<v Speaker 1>If you haven't seen the picture, google Joe Jill Biden,

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter, Roslyn Carter small chair picture or something.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the weirdest camera angle. It looks like like a

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<v Speaker 1>fun house or something. And they both don't they have

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<v Speaker 1>blankets on him.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it makes you ask the question, are Jimmy

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<v Speaker 2>and Roslyn Carter small or the bidens giants? And we

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<v Speaker 2>had seen so much of the bidens we were pretty

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<v Speaker 2>sure they weren't giants. We didn't think so. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>what a weird camera trick. But yeah, so wild. And

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<v Speaker 2>then did you see the governor Abbott news No, he

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<v Speaker 2>he originally issued his condolences for Rosalind Carter, who had

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<v Speaker 2>passed away a year ago. Really, that's tough, man, when

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<v Speaker 2>when you have to pretend like you care about these

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<v Speaker 2>things and issue out these statements and then you just

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<v Speaker 2>really following it too closely. But ah, you know, blame

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<v Speaker 2>it on an injury. I would like to declare, I

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<v Speaker 2>would like to make a statement. Okay, we live in

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<v Speaker 2>a world of too many statements.

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<v Speaker 3>We do.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't have to that's a good statement. We don't

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<v Speaker 2>have to have some official declaration on everything that happens.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree, And I get it. You know, it's like, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>you're just a governor. Man, It's okay, like let let

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<v Speaker 2>let w and let Bill and let Trump and let

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Obama, let them weigh in on this. There

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<v Speaker 2>are the living presidents. There are the four living oh

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<v Speaker 2>and Biden. Of course Biden. Let those five men weigh

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<v Speaker 2>on it. We don't need abbot weigh in. Okay. So

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<v Speaker 2>did you remember the last time you saw Jimmy Carter? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you talk about when they his birthday and his birthday

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<v Speaker 2>or was at the eclipse. I thought it was just

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<v Speaker 2>one my best birthday. When they mailed him outside to

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<v Speaker 2>look at the moon or something, look at the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>They did a salute and fired off some firecrackers. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like, really terrifying. It was like a mummy. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't believe. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>People go, uh, you know, we're mourning Jimmy Carter and

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<v Speaker 1>are you sad? And I'm like, man, once you get

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<v Speaker 1>to that age, to me, it's not sad. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just an amazing that guy did that for a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred years. And think about the stress of being considered

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<v Speaker 1>one of the worst presidents of all time and nothing's gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, take years off your life like stress. If

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<v Speaker 1>that guy hadn't been president, he would have lived to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty. It's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>What a success story his life is. So I did

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<v Speaker 2>some reading yesterday. What do you know or remember about.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you remember anything about a Playboy interview that he did.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that was the one, if I remember correctly, where

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<v Speaker 1>he said something to the effect of he's had some

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<v Speaker 1>impure thoughts.

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<v Speaker 2>So is it impure thoughts? It's the campaign for the election.

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<v Speaker 2>It was in nineteen seventy six. Here it's Hammers Gerald Ford.

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<v Speaker 2>The difference in the two guys in terms of how

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<v Speaker 2>open they were about their faith was pretty vast. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>Ford kept it pretty He didn't talk about it much. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he was a part of the illuminati that worshiped the devil. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And Jimmy Carter was a very pious Southern Christian lord.

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<v Speaker 2>So he's on the campaign trail. And in the late seventies,

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<v Speaker 2>a good, powerful pr tool to get your message out

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<v Speaker 2>is Playboy. Yeah. And and by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>Jimmy Carter was looked at as a very square guy,

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<v Speaker 1>and so him doing this interview was a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>And he goes into he was asked some questions about

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<v Speaker 2>JFK had been assassinated, you know, within the last ten

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<v Speaker 2>to fifteen years. But he was asked about being scared

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<v Speaker 2>of dying by assassination if you were elected, and he

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<v Speaker 2>said no, because he believed in God. And then he

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<v Speaker 2>started going into details about the concept of Christianity and

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<v Speaker 2>sin and redemption, and then he got a little too

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<v Speaker 2>carried away with it, and in the interview he said

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<v Speaker 2>that he had committed lust in his heart and that

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<v Speaker 2>he had committed adultery in his heart many times. And

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<v Speaker 2>because that interview happened in Playboy, that's all anybody could

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. In fact, ferrel Ford brought it up

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<v Speaker 2>in the debate. Yeah, okay, the little playing a little

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<v Speaker 2>dirty there. But in the seventies it was so that

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<v Speaker 2>was such an insane thing to imagine that a guy

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<v Speaker 2>might go spank the monkey while thinking of another woman

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<v Speaker 2>with lust in his heart. He committed adultery in his heart.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's a very strange juxtaposition because also in the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies it's like everyone's doing cocaine and having orgies, like

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<v Speaker 2>dude Disco is the seventies. And yeah, have you ever

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<v Speaker 2>seen the documentary I think it's called Jimmy Carter Rock

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<v Speaker 2>and Roll President. I haven't. I've seen the trailer for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's great.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's I shouldn't say it's great, it's really good

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<v Speaker 1>because I didn't know any of that about Jimmy.

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<v Speaker 2>Carter, but he's a huge music fan. Yeah, and his

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<v Speaker 2>uh you know when they have these I have the

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<v Speaker 2>trailer if you want to hear. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I rolled this trailer in when he was put

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<v Speaker 2>on hospice two years ago. Okay, I've been saving this

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<v Speaker 2>on my computer. Got it. So this was a CNN

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<v Speaker 2>documentary all the time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that have held America to get

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<v Speaker 3>has been the music that we share and love.

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<v Speaker 2>Jimmy Carter used music in a way that helped him

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<v Speaker 2>in his politics that had never been done quite that way.

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<v Speaker 3>Bob Dylan has been one of my best friends, along

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<v Speaker 3>with William Nelson. When Willi Nelson wrote his part of Bierophay,

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<v Speaker 3>he confessed that he smoked pot in the White House,

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<v Speaker 3>and he says that his companion was one of the

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<v Speaker 3>servants at the White House actually was one of my sons.

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<v Speaker 3>With all the all was against him, he still did

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<v Speaker 2>That's not a bad pattern for all of us to follow.

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<v Speaker 2>We now had a president that started to see the

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<v Speaker 2>world the way we saw it. His love for music

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense to me because music is the voice of

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<v Speaker 2>the heart. One of the reasons that musicians were drawn

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<v Speaker 2>to President Carter. He was a man of the earth,

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<v Speaker 2>for God's sake. He was a painut farmer. That was

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<v Speaker 2>the music of change and dissidence.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a risk politically for that, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>matter to him. I think music is the best proof

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<v Speaker 3>that people have one thing in common, no matter no

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<v Speaker 3>matter what language his speak.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's great, dude, it's a wonderful watch. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's a lot of stuff that I didn't know. But

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing I think. I think history smiles kindly

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<v Speaker 1>on Jimmy Carter in a way that the people that

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<v Speaker 1>were adults and lived through that era do not. But

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<v Speaker 1>he was a honest to a fault. He was what

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<v Speaker 1>we would hopefully get out of a leader, an honest,

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<v Speaker 1>good person that genuinely cares about the people and wants

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that position to help people, not for

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<v Speaker 1>self gain, not for self interest, not to make the

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<v Speaker 1>presidency all about their individual success and what can create

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<v Speaker 1>an empire for themselves. That's kind of like what these

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<v Speaker 1>principles of the men and women that left Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>came here in the first place.

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<v Speaker 2>Those were some of the ideals that they valued. That's

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<v Speaker 2>what a lot of the language of the Declaration of

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<v Speaker 2>Independence is about. Stuff in the constitution. Those are those ideals,

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<v Speaker 2>Those are the ideals he stayed so true to it

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<v Speaker 2>backfired on him. He was honest to a fault, and

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<v Speaker 2>he made decisions that he thought were the right decisions

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<v Speaker 2>that sometimes caused economic problems.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, one of the things he had to deal with.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the guy that had to tell all these

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<v Speaker 1>and compete in the Olympics because of the tension with Russia.

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<v Speaker 1>And he knew that was the right thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was going to be a very unpopular decision.

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>His history as a president, I mean, people always talk

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<v Speaker 2>Responsible for the inflation.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, that's the way economic things happen, right, there's tides,

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<v Speaker 1>they go and they come. The conservative movement that came

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<v Speaker 1>explosion that was fueled by conservative economic principles, and then

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<v Speaker 1>by the end of the eighties it was an absolute disaster.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know my dad was a small business owner

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<v Speaker 1>in Texas that was impacted by the nineteen eighty six

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<v Speaker 1>you have all this deregulation, you can have things like

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<v Speaker 1>savings and loan crisis. The country went through it again

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<v Speaker 1>in two thousand and eight. These things happen. It's not like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, conservative economic principles are always right, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like liberal conservative principles are always right. There's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of factors that go in here, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of push and pull. Jimmy Carter was the president

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<v Speaker 1>at a time period where inflation was going to happen,

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<v Speaker 1>and his presidency did a very horrible job of managing it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then you had the gas crisis going on because

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<v Speaker 2>One two things I read that stuck out to me

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<v Speaker 2>is like he hired a bunch of his Georgia buddies

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<v Speaker 2>who didn't have the experience needed to give his tenureous president,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, a good legacy, I guess, especially on the

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<v Speaker 2>foreign policy. I forgot who said this. I saw someone

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<v Speaker 2>basically had put out. He will be remembered as maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one of the worst presidents, although I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>long list of people who are worst presidents because anything

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<v Speaker 2>you do that's bad. He's on you right, right right

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<v Speaker 2>as one of the worst presidents, but maybe the best

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<v Speaker 2>ex president. Yeah, that's great, cool, Yeah, dude, we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about this habitat for humanity. Yeah, and it's not just

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<v Speaker 2>I support this, it's picking up a hammer even in

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<v Speaker 2>his nineties and going in building houses like he is

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<v Speaker 2>a good, genuine person that loves people, all people. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>he's so small and so old. So there you go, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>It sucks that we didn't get to Greg Gumbel rip

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<v Speaker 2>to you. Why don't we do that at uh the

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<v Speaker 2>Big Finish?

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Left time you'll see coming up at five point forty

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Finish, you'll see. But before we get

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<v Speaker 1>to that, there's been burglaries for famous people in town

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<v Speaker 1>and KT is on the case. We'll give you the

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<v Speaker 1>details next right here on the Ben and Skin Show

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<v Speaker 1>ninety seven point one.

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<v Speaker 2>The Eagle