Speaker 1: Ah, Yes, Ben and Skin Show ninety some point one
Speaker 1: The Eagle, thank you for hanging out with us today.
Speaker 2: Don't forget tomorrow. Christina's back.
Speaker 1: Ben won't be back till Tuesday, but me and Kat
Speaker 1: and Christina are going to play the best clips of
Speaker 1: our show from the year twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Kat has selected these I don't know what they are,
Speaker 1: and then he went and had listeners vote. I don't
Speaker 1: even know the ones you picked. So you have the results.
Speaker 1: It's all tallied, right, yes, and it's all ranked the
Speaker 1: top twenty four of the year.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be fun. Okay, It's always fun. I trust enough,
Speaker 2: I trust you, dude.
Speaker 3: You.
Speaker 2: On Friday, I was in my cards. We did the
Speaker 2: best off and it was the old twenty twenty one countdown.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, just kind of a blash in the past. Yep.
Speaker 2: Pretty crazy, yep, So it'll be fun. Twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: That was so okay with that?
Speaker 1: Okay, hold on, I gotta do the math so that
Speaker 1: we would have been at the Eagle for a year
Speaker 1: and a half by the yeah, okay, gotcha.
Speaker 2: I think is I want to say, when did you
Speaker 2: get cancer?
Speaker 1: I got cancer? Oh, at the end of twenty twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because well I knew I had it. I had the
Speaker 1: surgery in December of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, man, that was a fun year, wasn't it?
Speaker 2: When I had cancer? So anyways, tomorrow is going to
Speaker 2: be a blast.
Speaker 1: We're going to throw down the clips of the year
Speaker 1: as determined by you, the Eagle listener. What's coming up
Speaker 1: in the Weekday Update here in like thirty minutes.
Speaker 2: Well, we've had some break ins locally, thefts involving some
Speaker 2: of our most famous athletic superstars in town. Okay, we'll
Speaker 2: get to all that.
Speaker 1: I saw a movie yesterday and I do want to
Speaker 1: talk about it, but before we do that, the Weekday
Speaker 1: Update is so jam packed. This is the kind of
Speaker 1: thing normally we would put in the Weekday Update, but
Speaker 1: it kind of deserves its own space because President Carter,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, who was the first president that I remember
Speaker 1: like that, I have memories of Wow, Okay, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I have a distinct memories of Jimmy Carter being on
Speaker 1: the news. And this is back when there was only
Speaker 1: three channels and PBS, Fox wasn't even a thing yet.
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Fox news.
Speaker 1: I'm about Fox that shows The Simpsons didn't even exist yet.
Speaker 1: You had CBS, NBC, ABC and PBS, and then a
Speaker 1: couple like Local, you know, that would show what hapening reruns.
Speaker 1: So if you turned on the news in the late seventies,
Speaker 1: all you saw was people freaking out over inflation. Then
Speaker 1: you saw people freaking out over gas prices. I vividly
Speaker 1: remember news footage of lines wrapped around the block of
Speaker 1: people waiting to get gas there was a gas shortage.
Speaker 1: And then you had the hostages in Iran, and that
Speaker 1: was the three things that it's all they talked about.
Speaker 1: And it just felt like even as a you know,
Speaker 1: seven year old or eight year old, you know, just
Speaker 1: standing in the living room and the television is on,
Speaker 1: and you can feel you don't understand the complexity of
Speaker 1: the situation, but you feel emotion, You feel the way
Speaker 1: adults are acting, You feel what is coming through your television.
Speaker 1: Even as a seven or eight year old, I sat
Speaker 1: there and thought, so, it's all that guy's fault, huh,
Speaker 1: Because that's the.
Speaker 2: Way it was presented. I'm telling you sure everything was
Speaker 2: presented as Jimmy Carter is the worst president ever, and
Speaker 2: it's the end of the world. Well, and he was,
Speaker 2: you know, taking over for Gerald Ford, who took over
Speaker 2: for Nixon, right right, So, and then it was him
Speaker 2: versus Gerald Ford. Yes, in seventy six. I say, I've
Speaker 2: always had a high opinion of presidents because my first
Speaker 2: president that I remember is Bill Clinton. So I remember
Speaker 2: maybe some Dana Carvey doing George H. W. Bush, but
Speaker 2: remembering him in action. No, remembering Clinton in action. Yes,
Speaker 2: when you're ten and you're saying impeachment headlines and you're
Speaker 2: right for what? Oh for that. Carter's presidency was such
Speaker 2: a disaster. We got twelve years of Republican government, you
Speaker 2: had eight years of Reagan, and then his vice president
Speaker 2: was Bush. And you know, Bush was just I think
Speaker 2: Bush went up against Ducaucus. I think so too, and
Speaker 2: I don't even think it was I mean it was
Speaker 2: they mopped the floor. He mopped the floor with Ducaucus.
Speaker 2: So this is all. Did you mention the Cold War two?
Speaker 2: Did you say that it was?
Speaker 1: To me, I associate more of that with the escalation
Speaker 1: of the nuclear crisis, and to me, that's an eighties thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't think Now, the Cold War started in the sixties, Uh,
Speaker 1: but I thought more about the Cold War when it
Speaker 1: was the eighties and Reagan was the president and Gorbachev
Speaker 1: was the was the Russian.
Speaker 2: And whatever minis or whatever he's prime minister. So I
Speaker 2: didn't think about that that much back then.
Speaker 1: But when I was in school in the eighties, we
Speaker 1: had you know, uh, nuclear bomb drills and there was
Speaker 1: even a remove there was a made for TV movie
Speaker 1: called The Day After, Yeah, you know, and so that
Speaker 1: was all the hype of the eighties.
Speaker 2: Why did they show that trying to freak us out?
Speaker 2: Man good? Really? Well. The the thing about Jimmy Carter
Speaker 2: is I remember, you know, when he was put in hospice. Yes,
Speaker 2: he's been hospital for two years, and then obviously his
Speaker 2: wife Roslynd passed in twenty twenty three. I think most
Speaker 2: famously the picture of Joe and Jill Biden kneeling down
Speaker 2: next to them as they're tiny in that chair. It's
Speaker 2: so weird.
Speaker 1: If you haven't seen the picture, google Joe Jill Biden,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter, Roslyn Carter small chair picture or something.
Speaker 2: It's so crazy.
Speaker 1: It's the weirdest camera angle. It looks like like a
Speaker 1: fun house or something. And they both don't they have
Speaker 1: blankets on him.
Speaker 2: You know, it makes you ask the question, are Jimmy
Speaker 2: and Roslyn Carter small or the bidens giants? And we
Speaker 2: had seen so much of the bidens we were pretty
Speaker 2: sure they weren't giants. We didn't think so. But man,
Speaker 2: what a weird camera trick. But yeah, so wild. And
Speaker 2: then did you see the governor Abbott news No, he
Speaker 2: he originally issued his condolences for Rosalind Carter, who had
Speaker 2: passed away a year ago. Really, that's tough, man, when
Speaker 2: when you have to pretend like you care about these
Speaker 2: things and issue out these statements and then you just
Speaker 2: really following it too closely. But ah, you know, blame
Speaker 2: it on an injury. I would like to declare, I
Speaker 2: would like to make a statement. Okay, we live in
Speaker 2: a world of too many statements.
Speaker 3: We do.
Speaker 2: We don't have to that's a good statement. We don't
Speaker 2: have to have some official declaration on everything that happens.
Speaker 2: I agree, And I get it. You know, it's like, dude,
Speaker 2: you're just a governor. Man, It's okay, like let let
Speaker 2: let w and let Bill and let Trump and let
Speaker 2: you know, Obama, let them weigh in on this. There
Speaker 2: are the living presidents. There are the four living oh
Speaker 2: and Biden. Of course Biden. Let those five men weigh
Speaker 2: on it. We don't need abbot weigh in. Okay. So
Speaker 2: did you remember the last time you saw Jimmy Carter? Yeah,
Speaker 2: you talk about when they his birthday and his birthday
Speaker 2: or was at the eclipse. I thought it was just
Speaker 2: one my best birthday. When they mailed him outside to
Speaker 2: look at the moon or something, look at the stars.
Speaker 2: They did a salute and fired off some firecrackers. It
Speaker 2: was like, really terrifying. It was like a mummy. I
Speaker 2: can't believe. You know.
Speaker 1: People go, uh, you know, we're mourning Jimmy Carter and
Speaker 1: are you sad? And I'm like, man, once you get
Speaker 1: to that age, to me, it's not sad. It's like,
Speaker 1: it's just an amazing that guy did that for a
Speaker 1: hundred years. And think about the stress of being considered
Speaker 1: one of the worst presidents of all time and nothing's gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, take years off your life like stress. If
Speaker 1: that guy hadn't been president, he would have lived to
Speaker 1: one hundred and fifty. It's insane.
Speaker 2: What a success story his life is. So I did
Speaker 2: some reading yesterday. What do you know or remember about.
Speaker 2: Do you remember anything about a Playboy interview that he did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was the one, if I remember correctly, where
Speaker 1: he said something to the effect of he's had some
Speaker 1: impure thoughts.
Speaker 2: So is it impure thoughts? It's the campaign for the election.
Speaker 2: It was in nineteen seventy six. Here it's Hammers Gerald Ford.
Speaker 2: The difference in the two guys in terms of how
Speaker 2: open they were about their faith was pretty vast. Joe
Speaker 2: Ford kept it pretty He didn't talk about it much. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was a part of the illuminati that worshiped the devil. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And Jimmy Carter was a very pious Southern Christian lord.
Speaker 2: So he's on the campaign trail. And in the late seventies,
Speaker 2: a good, powerful pr tool to get your message out
Speaker 2: is Playboy. Yeah. And and by the way.
Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter was looked at as a very square guy,
Speaker 1: and so him doing this interview was a big deal.
Speaker 2: And he goes into he was asked some questions about
Speaker 2: and I'm imagining I'm guessing this was only topical because
Speaker 2: JFK had been assassinated, you know, within the last ten
Speaker 2: to fifteen years. But he was asked about being scared
Speaker 2: of dying by assassination if you were elected, and he
Speaker 2: said no, because he believed in God. And then he
Speaker 2: started going into details about the concept of Christianity and
Speaker 2: sin and redemption, and then he got a little too
Speaker 2: carried away with it, and in the interview he said
Speaker 2: that he had committed lust in his heart and that
Speaker 2: he had committed adultery in his heart many times. And
Speaker 2: because that interview happened in Playboy, that's all anybody could
Speaker 2: talk about it. In fact, ferrel Ford brought it up
Speaker 2: in the debate. Yeah, okay, the little playing a little
Speaker 2: dirty there. But in the seventies it was so that
Speaker 2: was such an insane thing to imagine that a guy
Speaker 2: might go spank the monkey while thinking of another woman
Speaker 2: with lust in his heart. He committed adultery in his heart.
Speaker 2: But it's a very strange juxtaposition because also in the
Speaker 2: seventies it's like everyone's doing cocaine and having orgies, like
Speaker 2: dude Disco is the seventies. And yeah, have you ever
Speaker 2: seen the documentary I think it's called Jimmy Carter Rock
Speaker 2: and Roll President. I haven't. I've seen the trailer for it.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I shouldn't say it's great, it's really good
Speaker 1: because I didn't know any of that about Jimmy.
Speaker 2: Carter, but he's a huge music fan. Yeah, and his
Speaker 2: uh you know when they have these I have the
Speaker 2: trailer if you want to hear. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I
Speaker 2: think I rolled this trailer in when he was put
Speaker 2: on hospice two years ago. Okay, I've been saving this
Speaker 2: on my computer. Got it. So this was a CNN
Speaker 2: documentary all the time ago.
Speaker 3: One of the things that have held America to get
Speaker 3: has been the music that we share and love.
Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter used music in a way that helped him
Speaker 2: in his politics that had never been done quite that way.
Speaker 3: Bob Dylan has been one of my best friends, along
Speaker 3: with William Nelson. When Willi Nelson wrote his part of Bierophay,
Speaker 3: he confessed that he smoked pot in the White House,
Speaker 3: and he says that his companion was one of the
Speaker 3: servants at the White House actually was one of my sons.
Speaker 3: With all the all was against him, he still did
Speaker 3: what he thought was right.
Speaker 2: That's not a bad pattern for all of us to follow.
Speaker 2: We now had a president that started to see the
Speaker 2: world the way we saw it. His love for music
Speaker 2: makes sense to me because music is the voice of
Speaker 2: the heart. One of the reasons that musicians were drawn
Speaker 2: to President Carter. He was a man of the earth,
Speaker 2: for God's sake. He was a painut farmer. That was
Speaker 2: the music of change and dissidence.
Speaker 3: There was a risk politically for that, and it didn't
Speaker 3: matter to him. I think music is the best proof
Speaker 3: that people have one thing in common, no matter no
Speaker 3: matter what language his speak.
Speaker 1: All right, it's great, dude, it's a wonderful watch. And
Speaker 1: it's a lot of stuff that I didn't know. But
Speaker 1: that's the thing I think. I think history smiles kindly
Speaker 1: on Jimmy Carter in a way that the people that
Speaker 1: were adults and lived through that era do not. But
Speaker 1: he was a honest to a fault. He was what
Speaker 1: we would hopefully get out of a leader, an honest,
Speaker 1: good person that genuinely cares about the people and wants
Speaker 1: to be in that position to help people, not for
Speaker 1: self gain, not for self interest, not to make the
Speaker 1: presidency all about their individual success and what can create
Speaker 1: an empire for themselves. That's kind of like what these
Speaker 1: principles of the men and women that left Europe and
Speaker 1: came here in the first place.
Speaker 2: Those were some of the ideals that they valued. That's
Speaker 2: what a lot of the language of the Declaration of
Speaker 2: Independence is about. Stuff in the constitution. Those are those ideals,
Speaker 2: Those are the ideals he stayed so true to it
Speaker 2: backfired on him. He was honest to a fault, and
Speaker 2: he made decisions that he thought were the right decisions
Speaker 2: that sometimes caused economic problems.
Speaker 1: I mean, one of the things he had to deal with.
Speaker 1: He was the guy that had to tell all these
Speaker 1: athletes they weren't going to get to go to Moscow
Speaker 1: and compete in the Olympics because of the tension with Russia.
Speaker 1: And he knew that was the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: but that was going to be a very unpopular decision.
Speaker 2: And so.
Speaker 1: His history as a president, I mean, people always talk
Speaker 1: about he's.
Speaker 2: Responsible for the inflation.
Speaker 1: Look, that's the way economic things happen, right, there's tides,
Speaker 1: they go and they come. The conservative movement that came
Speaker 1: after Carter, the front part of the eighties was an
Speaker 1: explosion that was fueled by conservative economic principles, and then
Speaker 1: by the end of the eighties it was an absolute disaster.
Speaker 1: And I know my dad was a small business owner
Speaker 1: in Texas that was impacted by the nineteen eighty six
Speaker 1: tax bill and the savings and loan crisis. And if
Speaker 1: you have all this deregulation, you can have things like
Speaker 1: savings and loan crisis. The country went through it again
Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight. These things happen. It's not like,
Speaker 1: you know, conservative economic principles are always right, and it's
Speaker 1: not like liberal conservative principles are always right. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of factors that go in here, and there's a
Speaker 1: lot of push and pull. Jimmy Carter was the president
Speaker 1: at a time period where inflation was going to happen,
Speaker 1: and his presidency did a very horrible job of managing it.
Speaker 1: And then you had the gas crisis going on because
Speaker 1: of what was happening in the Middle East.
Speaker 2: One two things I read that stuck out to me
Speaker 2: is like he hired a bunch of his Georgia buddies
Speaker 2: who didn't have the experience needed to give his tenureous president,
Speaker 2: you know, a good legacy, I guess, especially on the
Speaker 2: foreign policy. I forgot who said this. I saw someone
Speaker 2: basically had put out. He will be remembered as maybe
Speaker 2: one of the worst presidents, although I think that's a
Speaker 2: long list of people who are worst presidents because anything
Speaker 2: you do that's bad. He's on you right, right right
Speaker 2: as one of the worst presidents, but maybe the best
Speaker 2: ex president. Yeah, that's great, cool, Yeah, dude, we talked
Speaker 2: about this habitat for humanity. Yeah, and it's not just
Speaker 2: I support this, it's picking up a hammer even in
Speaker 2: his nineties and going in building houses like he is
Speaker 2: a good, genuine person that loves people, all people. But man,
Speaker 2: he's so small and so old. So there you go, dude.
Speaker 2: It sucks that we didn't get to Greg Gumbel rip
Speaker 2: to you. Why don't we do that at uh the
Speaker 2: Big Finish?
Speaker 3: Nah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Left time you'll see coming up at five point forty
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