WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:00.600 Stows. 2 00:00:01.360 --> 00:00:10.080 This is Sports Talk seven nine day. It's time for 3 00:00:10.279 --> 00:00:14.679 coffee and company, fueled by Thornton's on Sports Talk seven 4 00:00:14.759 --> 00:00:24.320 nine day. Now here's Nick Coffee. 5 00:00:25.719 --> 00:00:27.640 All right, let's do it hour number two here on 6 00:00:27.679 --> 00:00:30.760 a Monday afternoon. Thanks for hanging with us. Coffee and 7 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.520 company fueled by Thornton's here on Sports Talk seven ninety 8 00:00:33.600 --> 00:00:36.600 Nick Coffee. That's me Austin Montgomery alongside today. As you 9 00:00:36.600 --> 00:00:40.759 could expect, we have been recapping a lot that went 10 00:00:40.799 --> 00:00:42.600 on since the last time we had this show. I 11 00:00:42.640 --> 00:00:44.399 did have the postgame show on Saturday, which was a 12 00:00:44.439 --> 00:00:47.479 lot of fun, but we did a light show Wednesday, 13 00:00:47.520 --> 00:00:49.880 no show Thursday and Friday because of Thanksgiving, which it 14 00:00:49.920 --> 00:00:52.240 was great to have that time off and spend with family. 15 00:00:52.240 --> 00:00:54.439 It was also great to see a little basketball go 16 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:58.119 two out of three in the Battle for Atlantis and 17 00:00:58.359 --> 00:01:00.320 carry some momentum back. I know that may sound weird 18 00:01:00.920 --> 00:01:03.520 because of the last game being a loss, and they 19 00:01:03.520 --> 00:01:06.200 did lose one of their more talented players, but I 20 00:01:06.239 --> 00:01:09.439 mean Tennessee was was always going to be a tough 21 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:11.879 game to win, and Tennessee right now looks like one 22 00:01:11.879 --> 00:01:13.840 of the best teams in the country. And then you 23 00:01:13.879 --> 00:01:16.359 beat Indiana, which I can't say that I trust Mike 24 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:20.799 Woodson to salvage their rough start, but they have talent, 25 00:01:20.879 --> 00:01:23.200 and I still think Louisville beating them the way they 26 00:01:23.239 --> 00:01:25.040 did is going to have a lot of value on 27 00:01:25.079 --> 00:01:27.560 your resume. Maybe not because of like an eye test. 28 00:01:27.599 --> 00:01:29.799 Maybe Indiana ends up not being that good, but you 29 00:01:29.840 --> 00:01:33.239 beat them by thirty points and have a hard time 30 00:01:33.239 --> 00:01:36.319 with them being in the Big ten. I have our 31 00:01:36.400 --> 00:01:38.400 time seeing them as a Big ten team not being 32 00:01:38.439 --> 00:01:40.680 pretty pretty good when it comes to these net rankings 33 00:01:40.719 --> 00:01:43.159 when it's all said and done. So you know, I 34 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:46.879 I going two to three in that event I thought 35 00:01:46.959 --> 00:01:49.760 was really best case scenario going in, and I thought 36 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:51.799 that was going to be hard to do. It is 37 00:01:51.840 --> 00:01:55.400 kind of painful knowing that you know that third win 38 00:01:55.560 --> 00:01:58.359 the Battle Fortlantis Championship was right there and they just 39 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:00.959 came up short. But all in all, I think it 40 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:03.920 was a pretty successful holiday break there for the for 41 00:02:03.959 --> 00:02:07.120 the Louisville fan base. And one thing I wanted to 42 00:02:07.159 --> 00:02:11.039 mention because somebody asked me this earlier, did did I did? 43 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:14.479 I go on KSR pre show with Billy today because 44 00:02:14.520 --> 00:02:18.120 Louisville one, and he said it. I think it. Maybe 45 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:20.159 he said it when we weren't on the air, but 46 00:02:20.199 --> 00:02:22.280 I think he said it that this was this was 47 00:02:22.319 --> 00:02:24.360 agreed upon before the game was played. And I'll be 48 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.280 honest with you, that is when I thought about it. Okay, 49 00:02:28.360 --> 00:02:31.319 like I love going on with Billy Love, Billy love 50 00:02:31.360 --> 00:02:33.120 helping him out Shannons on the road with with the 51 00:02:33.159 --> 00:02:35.639 KSR crew. So you know, he needs he needs a 52 00:02:36.479 --> 00:02:38.879 what do you call it, a second chair essentially, right, 53 00:02:39.000 --> 00:02:41.879 like a guy to just kind of you know, some reinforcement. Yeah, 54 00:02:41.919 --> 00:02:45.400 you know, just just some backup, right, And I thought, okay, 55 00:02:45.479 --> 00:02:46.879 well I want to help him out, but man, if 56 00:02:46.919 --> 00:02:51.240 Louisville loses, then, like I mean, I'm not really sure 57 00:02:51.240 --> 00:02:53.199 what I would even, Like I could probably just try 58 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:55.280 to do the self deprecating thing like make fun of 59 00:02:55.360 --> 00:02:57.719 us and make fun of me to you know, keep 60 00:02:57.719 --> 00:02:59.120 myself from crimes. 61 00:02:59.120 --> 00:02:59.479 Works. 62 00:02:59.599 --> 00:03:01.479 Yeah, so like that was kind of going to be 63 00:03:01.479 --> 00:03:03.520 my mindset. But then at that point, I thought, you 64 00:03:03.520 --> 00:03:06.199 know what, no, like they were not losing to Kentucky 65 00:03:06.280 --> 00:03:08.840 and it wasn't a level of arrogance. If Louisvill can 66 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:10.960 lose the stand for they losed anybody. But like I 67 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:17.159 just knew that Kentucky had been so defeated and when 68 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.120 they were probably you know, expected to be really resetting 69 00:03:21.120 --> 00:03:23.319 things and looking at it as a one game season 70 00:03:23.680 --> 00:03:26.120 beating Louisville to kind of finish on a high note 71 00:03:26.159 --> 00:03:29.039 despite the terrible year. I just knew that behind the 72 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:31.120 scenes that like not not that I have like access 73 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:33.120 to what's going on behind the scenes with UK football, 74 00:03:33.159 --> 00:03:35.120 but I know people who do, and you know, they 75 00:03:35.120 --> 00:03:37.400 were telling me that, look, now, there's not a whole 76 00:03:37.400 --> 00:03:39.000 lot of like, all right, we're going to come out 77 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:40.639 here and be a brand new team. Like they were 78 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:44.680 in a terrible, toxic situation. And I think because it 79 00:03:44.719 --> 00:03:46.319 was towards the end and they realized they had nothing 80 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.639 to play for, you know, they were they didn't have 81 00:03:48.639 --> 00:03:51.479 a good week, and man, I really do believe that 82 00:03:52.439 --> 00:03:54.080 they had their worst game of the season. And I 83 00:03:54.120 --> 00:03:55.560 wish I could tell you that Louisville had a lot 84 00:03:55.599 --> 00:03:57.319 to do with it. I mean, technically Louisville did. I mean, 85 00:03:57.319 --> 00:04:00.199 they ran it down their throat. I mean he made 86 00:04:00.199 --> 00:04:03.080 big plays offensively, even at times without scoring touchdowns. So 87 00:04:03.360 --> 00:04:06.439 Louisville clearly looked like the better team in every way. 88 00:04:06.840 --> 00:04:11.159 But Cutter Bowley, that young man. Best of luck to him, 89 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.439 but god, he was awful. I mean he was bad. 90 00:04:15.400 --> 00:04:17.959 And I know he's got talent and he's somebody that 91 00:04:18.000 --> 00:04:20.000 a lot of big time programs wanted, and he chose 92 00:04:20.040 --> 00:04:22.800 to stay home and go to Kentucky. But would you agree, Austin, Like, 93 00:04:22.800 --> 00:04:23.920 he couldn't have been much worse. 94 00:04:24.199 --> 00:04:27.959 No, he looked all sorts of out of sorts, and 95 00:04:28.319 --> 00:04:30.199 I think I was seeing some pictures of like his 96 00:04:30.480 --> 00:04:33.040 recruiting stuff, like even before he got to UK, and 97 00:04:33.279 --> 00:04:35.040 he just kind of looks safe. I mean, he just 98 00:04:35.079 --> 00:04:38.560 looks like a teenager, you know. Yeah, it was it 99 00:04:38.600 --> 00:04:41.920 was a boy amongst men in that specific game right there. 100 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:43.519 I probably thought that they would have had a way 101 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:46.600 better shot with vander Griff if they tried it and 102 00:04:46.759 --> 00:04:48.480 had a little bit of life once they got a 103 00:04:48.519 --> 00:04:50.439 winstad in the game, and. 104 00:04:50.560 --> 00:04:52.720 He threw two really good balls there for those touchdowns, 105 00:04:53.040 --> 00:04:53.360 and that. 106 00:04:53.360 --> 00:04:56.240 Helps us because I mean, honestly, you got experience. And 107 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.279 this is something that you talked about on the postgame show. 108 00:04:59.319 --> 00:05:01.959 Because I'm a loyal listener to I tuned in, I 109 00:05:02.040 --> 00:05:05.279 clock in with you after every winner, every loss. But 110 00:05:05.399 --> 00:05:07.639 like there's a lot of people that were clamoring for 111 00:05:07.759 --> 00:05:10.040 him just last week when he came in and he 112 00:05:10.160 --> 00:05:13.639 had his debuts, and I guess when Kentucky's this down 113 00:05:13.639 --> 00:05:16.360 and the dumps just really only a couple throws will 114 00:05:16.360 --> 00:05:18.480 make you go like, all right, that's a new fresh face. 115 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.399 We found our guy perfect just in time for the 116 00:05:21.399 --> 00:05:23.920 Louisville rivalry, which we've had a hold on over the 117 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:25.279 last five or six years. 118 00:05:25.480 --> 00:05:26.959 But even who do. 119 00:05:26.920 --> 00:05:28.600 They play last week? He didn't even look that in 120 00:05:28.920 --> 00:05:31.399 Texas the Texas game, and he didn't even really look 121 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:33.800 all that impressive. He just looked a little bit better 122 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:35.920 than what they were used to only for like less 123 00:05:35.959 --> 00:05:37.000 than a handful of plays. 124 00:05:37.040 --> 00:05:39.240 Yeah, it was desperation on their end to just try 125 00:05:39.279 --> 00:05:41.800 to find some way to flip a switch and act 126 00:05:41.920 --> 00:05:44.439 like they weren't a terrible football team as far as 127 00:05:44.560 --> 00:05:46.800 results and that. And that was what I said at 128 00:05:46.839 --> 00:05:50.279 the beginning of the year when they lost to South 129 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:52.439 Carolina by a billion, which obviously that doesn't look as 130 00:05:52.480 --> 00:05:55.079 bad now, and it looked like, man, if they can't 131 00:05:54.920 --> 00:05:56.519 beat that team, what are they going to do when 132 00:05:56.519 --> 00:06:00.600 they play Ole Miss and Texas and Georgia. They competed 133 00:06:00.639 --> 00:06:03.439 against the and That really speaks to how off the 134 00:06:03.519 --> 00:06:06.040 rails it was for Stoops where they could compete early 135 00:06:06.120 --> 00:06:09.120 on in those games, and even when they played Tennessee 136 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:11.560 in Texas, they were more competitive against those teams. 137 00:06:11.560 --> 00:06:12.279 And they were Louisville. 138 00:06:12.279 --> 00:06:14.800 I mean, they just were so you know, they were 139 00:06:14.800 --> 00:06:17.360 never they were never in a good place, it felt like. 140 00:06:17.399 --> 00:06:19.920 But when they I just thought, Okay, best case scenario 141 00:06:19.920 --> 00:06:23.480 for Louisville is like if Kentucky ends up limping in here, 142 00:06:23.519 --> 00:06:26.319 not six and five like they were last year, because 143 00:06:26.319 --> 00:06:28.439 they weren't very good last year, but they were way 144 00:06:28.439 --> 00:06:30.079 better than they were this year. It's like, I just 145 00:06:30.120 --> 00:06:33.480 think it's it's really hard, no matter what you do, 146 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:37.720 new quarterback, new life, try to wipe out the previous 147 00:06:37.720 --> 00:06:40.279 eleven games. Once you get out there and you get 148 00:06:40.319 --> 00:06:43.079 hit and there's any little bit of adversity, any little 149 00:06:43.079 --> 00:06:46.240 bit of momentum for your opponent, you crumble and you 150 00:06:46.360 --> 00:06:48.600 revert to what you've been all year because you can't 151 00:06:48.639 --> 00:06:51.319 just become a new team out of nowhere. And that's 152 00:06:51.360 --> 00:06:54.360 exactly what happened. But again, I think it was because 153 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:56.480 if you remember, they got off the field pretty quickly 154 00:06:56.560 --> 00:06:58.439 the beginning of the game, which that actually, no, they 155 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:01.199 they ran the ball twice of effectively and then had 156 00:07:01.199 --> 00:07:03.160 the fumble if you want to call it that he 157 00:07:03.199 --> 00:07:06.000 just ripped it out of his hands. And then next 158 00:07:06.040 --> 00:07:09.399 time out Louisville gets out there and they don't capitalize. Right, 159 00:07:09.480 --> 00:07:12.000 They had the mistouchdown pass to Isaac Brown, a bad 160 00:07:12.040 --> 00:07:15.120 ball from Schuck. You just overthrew him. And I just 161 00:07:15.199 --> 00:07:17.600 kept thinking, Okay, we're leaving the door open. And really 162 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:19.439 Louisville did leave the door open for them until the 163 00:07:19.439 --> 00:07:21.680 midway through the third quarter, but they just I mean, 164 00:07:21.759 --> 00:07:23.279 it was a pretty pathetic showing for them all the 165 00:07:23.279 --> 00:07:24.519 way around. And I know a lot of their fans 166 00:07:24.560 --> 00:07:26.639 really weren't that surprised, right because I think they realized, 167 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.519 even if they didn't want to say it, but they thought, okay, 168 00:07:28.680 --> 00:07:31.480 we might come out and play well because Stoops always 169 00:07:31.480 --> 00:07:33.839 has us ready in this game. I think as soon 170 00:07:33.879 --> 00:07:37.600 as you saw live action, I think Kentucky fans probably 171 00:07:37.600 --> 00:07:41.439 felt like, all right, this is who we are and 172 00:07:41.519 --> 00:07:43.240 I just want this to be over. And even when 173 00:07:43.279 --> 00:07:46.600 Louiell was only up two scores in the third quarter, 174 00:07:47.160 --> 00:07:50.439 I think they probably tried to And I don't want 175 00:07:50.480 --> 00:07:52.040 to be a psychologist, for Kentucky fans, but I think 176 00:07:52.079 --> 00:07:54.079 they probably try to think, okay, like, hey, they left us, 177 00:07:54.480 --> 00:07:57.160 they left us alive here, let's go do something you 178 00:07:57.199 --> 00:07:58.879 really didn't believe it was gonna happen. Because again, you 179 00:07:58.959 --> 00:08:00.720 know your team better than anybody. You watched them all 180 00:08:00.800 --> 00:08:04.920 year and they were bad. So Governor's cups backwards, back 181 00:08:04.920 --> 00:08:06.680 where it belongs, and I hope that it doesn't leave 182 00:08:06.680 --> 00:08:08.560 here for a long long time. And I really I 183 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:11.360 think objectively, obviously you know what I'm going to say. 184 00:08:11.759 --> 00:08:14.279 I mean, I'm clearly a Louisville fan, and I try 185 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:15.959 to be honest and objective. But I think you ask 186 00:08:16.000 --> 00:08:18.959 anybody who covers college football objectively, who knows the sport 187 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:22.000 objectively that doesn't lean red or blue, they would tell 188 00:08:22.000 --> 00:08:26.319 you that momentum, it makes it appear that things can change. 189 00:08:26.360 --> 00:08:29.279 Right maybe next year it's a totally unexpected situation where 190 00:08:29.319 --> 00:08:31.600 for both teams, where Kentucky's rolling and Louisville takes a 191 00:08:31.680 --> 00:08:34.080 huge step back. We don't know, but right now there's 192 00:08:34.120 --> 00:08:35.480 really not something you could point to if you're a 193 00:08:35.519 --> 00:08:37.399 Kentucky fan that should make you feel like you're about 194 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.519 to start winning this thing again. So that's you know, 195 00:08:40.960 --> 00:08:43.720 that's all is right in this state now that the 196 00:08:43.759 --> 00:08:45.559 governor's cups back where it belongs. And again, I know 197 00:08:45.600 --> 00:08:48.120 some don't agree, but that's just it's just the truth. 198 00:08:48.320 --> 00:08:50.080 Just a little bit about the game. I'm kind of 199 00:08:50.159 --> 00:08:53.080 glad that it played out just how the way that 200 00:08:53.120 --> 00:08:54.879 we were sort of talking about it, like go up, 201 00:08:55.440 --> 00:08:57.320 say you can go up twenty points on them and 202 00:08:57.360 --> 00:08:59.720 then just really kind of just kill any sort of 203 00:08:59.759 --> 00:09:02.039 self esteem that they had because of the way that 204 00:09:02.080 --> 00:09:04.399 they were coming into that game. But there was still 205 00:09:04.440 --> 00:09:07.559 that anst because they were still at arm's length. Even 206 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:09.639 though you're at twenty points. It's probably you know, like 207 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:12.519 the caller earlier, Jerry should have been thirty one points. 208 00:09:12.799 --> 00:09:15.000 And then you have the easy start off the second 209 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.240 half really good, and then you kind of get the 210 00:09:18.039 --> 00:09:20.679 Stanford flashbacks. Right then you kind of get the all right, 211 00:09:20.799 --> 00:09:23.039 is this a juice that they needed? But all in all, 212 00:09:23.519 --> 00:09:25.679 they just kind of fell flat right after that scoop 213 00:09:25.720 --> 00:09:27.960 and score when they were so close or when they 214 00:09:27.960 --> 00:09:30.120 were down there on their own territory and then that 215 00:09:30.159 --> 00:09:30.799 scoop and score. 216 00:09:30.919 --> 00:09:33.960 Yeah, and that was such a momentum swinging play. Whenever 217 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.320 they actually had a chance to kind of claim a 218 00:09:36.360 --> 00:09:38.559 little bit of momentum and then they had the worst 219 00:09:38.559 --> 00:09:41.600 possible situation happened, and yeah, you know, I felt like 220 00:09:41.879 --> 00:09:43.159 and you just said something that kind of made me 221 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:47.080 look at it from a different angle. I think to 222 00:09:47.120 --> 00:09:48.519 know that you should have been up a lot more, 223 00:09:48.720 --> 00:09:51.159 and you left it kind of opened for not doubt, 224 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:53.120 but you know, you know you should have been up more, 225 00:09:53.120 --> 00:09:54.360 and you wondered if it was going to haunt you. 226 00:09:54.399 --> 00:09:56.200 That wasn't a good place to be in. But it 227 00:09:56.240 --> 00:09:58.159 never got to where like it's down to the wire, 228 00:09:58.720 --> 00:10:00.559 but you had a good enough lead and you just 229 00:10:00.600 --> 00:10:02.480 kind of let them sit back and implode. You kind 230 00:10:02.480 --> 00:10:04.200 of set back and just let them show that they 231 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.159 were that bad this year. And you know, I enjoyed 232 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:08.080 seeing how bad they were. 233 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:09.840 Didn't see a lot of I didn't see a lot 234 00:10:09.840 --> 00:10:12.480 of L's down this week, and you know, I was 235 00:10:12.799 --> 00:10:13.919 I was refreshing. 236 00:10:14.080 --> 00:10:17.200 I swear I didn't think of L's down one time 237 00:10:17.320 --> 00:10:20.120 during the game, not that I would, but like Kentucky 238 00:10:20.240 --> 00:10:23.159 would be down by multiple touchdowns in this game previously 239 00:10:23.200 --> 00:10:25.919 before it got out of hand, and would be doing 240 00:10:26.080 --> 00:10:28.720 L's Down like it was insane, Like I remember in 241 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:31.039 twenty seventeen, the last time Louisville had won it, Lynn Boden, 242 00:10:31.240 --> 00:10:33.279 not Lyn Bowden. I'm sorry Benny Snell. You know, he 243 00:10:33.360 --> 00:10:35.720 ended up having a great career there, but he lost 244 00:10:35.759 --> 00:10:37.600 to Louisville more than he beat him, I feel like. 245 00:10:37.799 --> 00:10:41.159 And also he was down like three touchdowns in the 246 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.200 third quarter and was doing L's down on like a 247 00:10:43.240 --> 00:10:46.399 sympathy touchdown, like and it just kind of speaks to like, 248 00:10:46.440 --> 00:10:48.759 they can't control themselves. But that's how bad they were 249 00:10:48.799 --> 00:10:50.480 this year, and they were getting blown out so bad 250 00:10:50.480 --> 00:10:53.200 that there was there was no L's down for many 251 00:10:53.200 --> 00:10:54.159 players during the game. 252 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:56.440 Yeah, they couldn't believe in themselves this year. Yea, And 253 00:10:56.480 --> 00:10:58.360 I love it. I love that Brom just ripped their 254 00:10:58.360 --> 00:11:00.879 souls out. Yeah, hopefully that means has got a good 255 00:11:00.879 --> 00:11:02.480 grasp on this rivalry going forward. 256 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:05.240 Well. Yeah, and look, you can't you can't find a coach, 257 00:11:05.399 --> 00:11:08.639 regardless of how much money you would potentially have, that 258 00:11:08.639 --> 00:11:10.840 that can understand it the way that he does. Doesn't 259 00:11:10.840 --> 00:11:13.000 mean he's gonna win them all. He clearly lost one already. 260 00:11:13.039 --> 00:11:15.559 But you know, I don't think we'll ever have to 261 00:11:15.559 --> 00:11:20.799 worry about well our players unders into this fan base 262 00:11:20.879 --> 00:11:23.679 and this city. I mean, they should know that, but 263 00:11:23.720 --> 00:11:26.159 I think the guy leading them it being something that 264 00:11:26.240 --> 00:11:28.639 he's experienced, that he can feel and he knows more 265 00:11:28.679 --> 00:11:31.320 about than maybe anybody, because you know, Jeff came to 266 00:11:31.360 --> 00:11:32.960 louisvill when it wasn't the cool thing to do. You know, 267 00:11:33.039 --> 00:11:34.960 Jeff came to Louisville before Louisville was able to really, 268 00:11:35.039 --> 00:11:36.720 I mean, they were just in a different planet as 269 00:11:36.759 --> 00:11:38.159 far as where they are now. What I mean by 270 00:11:38.159 --> 00:11:40.440 that is, you know, they're now in a power conference 271 00:11:40.480 --> 00:11:42.360 and they've had a Heisman Trophy winner, They've gone to 272 00:11:42.360 --> 00:11:46.039 BCS Bowl games. So you know, we'll never have we 273 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:48.559 should never have to worry about, not not necessarily winning 274 00:11:48.639 --> 00:11:50.039 or losing, but we should never have to worry about 275 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:51.360 like our homes. We just should never have to worry 276 00:11:51.360 --> 00:11:52.720 about what we had to worry about with Saturerfield when 277 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:54.120 it comes to this rivalry, there's no doubt about that. 278 00:11:54.200 --> 00:11:56.159 All right, let's talk basketball really quickly here, so I 279 00:11:56.879 --> 00:11:58.480 and we'll continue to talk about it throughout the show. 280 00:11:58.519 --> 00:11:59.559 But I don't have a whole lot of time left 281 00:11:59.559 --> 00:12:01.399 in this segment. But I did mention the four o'clock 282 00:12:01.440 --> 00:12:04.120 hour being for hoops because overall, as I mentioned just 283 00:12:04.159 --> 00:12:06.799 a moment ago, the Battle for Atlantis, I still look 284 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:10.279 at that as a awesome trip for this team. I 285 00:12:10.320 --> 00:12:12.159 hated that they lost the last game the way they did, 286 00:12:12.200 --> 00:12:13.679 and I hate that they lost Case in prior for 287 00:12:13.720 --> 00:12:15.440 the season, which, by the way, if you guys haven't 288 00:12:15.480 --> 00:12:16.840 heard that, maybe you've been caught up at work and 289 00:12:16.879 --> 00:12:19.440 you've just been very busy not keeping up with what's 290 00:12:19.440 --> 00:12:22.600 going on. They did confirm earlier today before Pat Kelsey's 291 00:12:22.600 --> 00:12:24.879 press conference that the Case and Pryor will be out 292 00:12:25.200 --> 00:12:27.639 for the season with a torn ACL. It really looked 293 00:12:27.840 --> 00:12:31.120 exactly like what you see when somebody has a torn ACL, 294 00:12:31.320 --> 00:12:35.720 and you know, I hate it. It sucks for him, 295 00:12:35.799 --> 00:12:38.120 sucks for this team. It changes things for them, no doubt. 296 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:42.080 But I still think that you could have a team 297 00:12:42.159 --> 00:12:46.200 that ends up in the NAA Tournament. And maybe I'm 298 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:50.200 just falling into the trap of the toxic platform that 299 00:12:50.279 --> 00:12:53.639 is Twitter now called X But you know, you get 300 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.879 people out there acting like, well, okay, you just can't 301 00:12:56.279 --> 00:12:59.080 you just can't minimize how big of a deal this is. 302 00:12:59.120 --> 00:13:01.600 This is not something you come back from. We need 303 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:03.840 to just shift all Pat needs to shift attention to 304 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:07.159 recruiting for next year. Like what I mean, Case and 305 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:10.840 Pryor good player, no doubt, and he was a big 306 00:13:10.840 --> 00:13:13.399 factor in why you were able to go to out 307 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.200 of three and you know the game that you lost, 308 00:13:15.519 --> 00:13:18.120 he wasn't in there late to help you win. So 309 00:13:18.399 --> 00:13:22.360 I'm not minimizing anything about his value what he brings 310 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:26.200 to the table. But you're replacing a guy who was 311 00:13:26.240 --> 00:13:29.840 averaging twelve points in six rebounds a game and shooting 312 00:13:29.919 --> 00:13:33.720 thirty five percent from the floor and shooting fifteen percent 313 00:13:33.759 --> 00:13:36.159 from three. I'm not here to tell you that, Like, 314 00:13:36.360 --> 00:13:38.559 it ain't no big deal. I'm trying to give you 315 00:13:38.600 --> 00:13:42.960 one of those Hey, two things can be true. You're 316 00:13:42.960 --> 00:13:44.720 not in a position to lose a guy like him, 317 00:13:44.759 --> 00:13:47.200 given the fact that you already have Trey Ore out 318 00:13:47.240 --> 00:13:51.919 for probably another month and Corin Johnson's probably I mean, 319 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:54.120 I don't know. I don't want to speculate, but it 320 00:13:54.120 --> 00:13:55.720 doesn't sound good Like I wouldn't be shocked if he 321 00:13:55.799 --> 00:13:58.080 ends up not playing this year. Just because when I 322 00:13:58.120 --> 00:14:00.600 hear he's getting his second opinion makes me think that 323 00:14:00.639 --> 00:14:04.120 they're trying to find some somebody that says you know, yeah, 324 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:06.519 he can play through it, or maybe you don't need surgery. 325 00:14:06.559 --> 00:14:08.320 I don't know. I don't know, And again I probably 326 00:14:08.320 --> 00:14:11.039 shouldn't been speculate, so there's no way to act like 327 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.360 this is, oh, no big deal. But I also think 328 00:14:13.440 --> 00:14:15.240 when you when it comes down to what you have 329 00:14:15.320 --> 00:14:20.799 to replace, it's really not it's really not crazy to 330 00:14:20.879 --> 00:14:22.639 think that they could still end up having a good 331 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:26.399 enough season to find themselves in the NAA Tournament. I mean, 332 00:14:26.440 --> 00:14:28.240 Cayson did a lot of good things for you, but 333 00:14:28.919 --> 00:14:32.799 I think caseon and this, I'm trying my best here 334 00:14:32.840 --> 00:14:35.799 not to to sound like I'm claiming that people are 335 00:14:35.799 --> 00:14:37.360 acting like he's better than he is, because I think 336 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.480 he's a really talented guy. He's a six to ten 337 00:14:39.559 --> 00:14:42.039 guy that is not a great shooter, but he can 338 00:14:42.080 --> 00:14:46.320 occasionally make one. But he's a good athlete. He's got 339 00:14:46.320 --> 00:14:47.919 a good feel for the game, and he's a really 340 00:14:47.960 --> 00:14:49.639 good ball handler for a guy that's six ' ten. 341 00:14:49.679 --> 00:14:51.720 Like he's a matchup problem for other teams, and that's 342 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:55.320 a real big thing you're gonna miss. But as far 343 00:14:55.360 --> 00:14:59.240 as just what he provided, I think, you know, Connie 344 00:14:59.320 --> 00:15:01.159 Russ is a talent. The young man. Now, maybe he 345 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.399 has a tough adjustment period getting more minutes because he's 346 00:15:04.399 --> 00:15:06.240 a true freshman, but you can tell he has a 347 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:08.000 lot of talent. He also has a lot of energy, 348 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:13.559 like caseon. So you know it's not ideal. But I 349 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.360 will say I'm a little surprised that people act as 350 00:15:15.399 --> 00:15:17.519 if they lost somebody that's average. I mean, do you 351 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:20.840 I mean again, this team's probably gonna have different leading 352 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:22.759 scorers throughout the season just because of how the rosters 353 00:15:22.759 --> 00:15:25.799 build and how they play. But you know, Cason Pryor 354 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:29.840 is your third leading scorer on this team. Chuckie Hepburn 355 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.399 is your All American caliber player. Like again, I don't 356 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:34.879 want to make it sound like it's no big deal, 357 00:15:35.399 --> 00:15:39.600 but I think in a way this guy was maybe 358 00:15:40.240 --> 00:15:42.080 And again, this is a stupid thing to talk about, 359 00:15:42.120 --> 00:15:44.960 like which guy could you afford to lose the least? 360 00:15:45.000 --> 00:15:47.639 That kind of stuff, But I think losing Chucky and 361 00:15:47.679 --> 00:15:50.759 losing rain Smith would actually be a bigger dagger to 362 00:15:50.799 --> 00:15:53.759 this team than losing Cason. And it's not because I'm 363 00:15:53.759 --> 00:15:56.840 saying he's not valuable, but I think you can you 364 00:15:56.840 --> 00:15:59.039 can do some things to kind of make up for 365 00:15:59.159 --> 00:16:01.279 what you lost there to where it's not going to 366 00:16:01.399 --> 00:16:03.919 kill your season, all right, quick break, don't go anywhere, 367 00:16:04.000 --> 00:16:05.840 keep it locked right here again. 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So got that mixed up a little bit. 380 00:16:36.840 --> 00:16:39.440 We certainly appreciate our friends over there at Ellenn Federal 381 00:16:39.519 --> 00:16:42.000 Credit Union, big supporters of U of l Athletics, as 382 00:16:42.000 --> 00:16:44.559 you likely know, and also big supporters of us here 383 00:16:45.039 --> 00:16:49.639 with the coffee and company. All right, So this text says, Nick, 384 00:16:50.600 --> 00:16:56.360 is there any chance we see Pat Kelsey reinvent the offense? Well? No, 385 00:16:56.519 --> 00:17:00.080 I mean, I'm sure you're gonna maybe i'd Actually, I 386 00:17:00.080 --> 00:17:02.120 don't know I'd be honest with you. I said this 387 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:05.079 many times before the season started, and I've said it 388 00:17:05.599 --> 00:17:08.559 here and there throughout the young season. When when it 389 00:17:08.599 --> 00:17:10.359 when it when I'm reminded of it, and that is 390 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:12.599 that we're still learning about him. We're still learning about 391 00:17:12.640 --> 00:17:15.960 him as a coach. Not you know, only are we learning, 392 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:17.599 you know, how successful he's going to be, but like 393 00:17:17.640 --> 00:17:20.720 we're learning about things that you don't really notice or 394 00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:23.200 pick up on until you're in a situation. Like for example, 395 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.240 we had a call her earlier who mentioned one of 396 00:17:25.279 --> 00:17:27.039 the questions that Pat got at the press conference about 397 00:17:27.039 --> 00:17:30.160 shooting percentages, and he actually had talked about it before 398 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.480 they were actually before they played Indiana when they got 399 00:17:32.480 --> 00:17:35.319 to the Bahamas last week. In the presser prior to 400 00:17:35.319 --> 00:17:38.119 that Indiana game, when asked about three point shooting percentage. 401 00:17:38.200 --> 00:17:40.279