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into Biden's inner circle, protecting a faltering president. Now it
can be reported, but Philip has been calling back because
maybe he's been having power outages and so he's been
waiting a very long time. So Philip, welcome to the program.
Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing to day, sir?
Speaker 1: I'm all right. I can barely hear you. Are you
on speakerphone?
Speaker 2: No, I'm not on the speakerphoone. Can you hear me better.
Speaker 1: Now a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, going to get rid of Obamacare or what's
going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: I thought.
Speaker 2: That was his big promise.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he promised that for years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so what what what changed?
Speaker 1: Well, so I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this is
a dirty secret in politics A lot of times. Uh,
and by a lot, I mean like ninety nine percent
of the time politicians make promises and then they don't
keep them.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But what changed about him getting rid of Obamacare?
Speaker 1: What? What?
Speaker 3: What changed?
Speaker 1: Well? That was the campaign and now he's actually in office.
Speaker 2: So he was never going to get rid of Obamacue.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if you ask him, like
if he if he had the ability to do so,
I suspect he probably would if if he looked at
the polling, you know, and somebody and his advisors told
him that it would be a good thing for him
to do, I'm sure he would do it. I don't
know what his heart is on that. I know he
said he would overturn it. I know he attempted to.
They ran the legislation, and then John McCain, in a
fit of pettiness, uh and anger, as John McCain was
known for, he you know, John McCain cast the deciding vote.
I'm going to finish my sentence. He cast the deciding
vote to keep Obamacare and just spit in the face
of all of the Republicans that had run on that promise.
Speaker 2: But he had the House and the Senate there, right,
so he can, Yes.
Speaker 1: If you have enough votes in the Senate to override
or to to overcome a filibuster.
Speaker 2: You know what I think you know what I think
it is. But I think they're more Republicans have Obamacare
than Democrats. Now, I think that's probably why he won't
mess with it.
Speaker 1: Now, what's your evidence for that claim? I'm sorry, what
is your evidence for that claim?
Speaker 2: All of the local governments in the Red states they
love Obamacare, they love it.
Speaker 1: What is your evidence for that claim?
Speaker 2: Statistics?
Speaker 1: What statistics?
Speaker 2: Overwhelming majority of Republicans are using Obamacare and.
Speaker 1: Over hang on? Hang on, I hang on, hang on, Philip.
I'm writing this down because what I'm going to do
is I'm going to check your data because I don't
believe you know what you're talking about. I am right.
So you said a majority. So you said a majority
of the Republicans are are on Obamacare.
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, absolutely, Okay. Let me tell you one other thing.
The reason that the presidential inauguration was ailed in Rotanda,
you know what the real.
Speaker 1: Reason is, right, I'm sure you'll tell me.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know what you think it is, but I'm
sure you think you do, So go ahead and say
what you think it is. But oh, hang on, hang on,
I bet I can guess. Let me guess, Philip. I'm
gonna go ahead and guess. I'm gonna guess that you
believe it was held in the rotunda because he couldn't
actually get the crowd size exactly.
Speaker 2: You are smart, dude.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I just know. I just I can left
wing media. I read. No, I I read, I read
left wing media, so I know what your arguments.
Speaker 2: Are exactly the reason.
Speaker 1: Admit it, man, admit what.
Speaker 2: You already know that.
Speaker 1: So wait, Philip, Philip, Philip, hang on, hang on, hang on, Philip.
So I want to be clear, I just told you
something and you just to completely ignored it. Right. I said,
I know what you were going to say because I
consume left wing media, So I knew what you were
going to say.
Speaker 5: That was a lie.
Speaker 1: So worry what part's a lie that I consume, that
I consume left wing that I read leftist media, that
I you could.
Speaker 2: Have gotten it on the right hand side as well.
Speaker 1: The right wasn't reporting. No, you know what the right.
You know what the right was reporting. So you don't know,
but I do because I read that also, so the
right wing media. I will tell you, No, I will
tell you. And this this illustrates my point. I would
dare say, it's proof of what I just said that
I read left wing media, so I knew what you
were going to say. But you don't consume ring media,
so you did not know what I was going to
say or what the right is saying about it. What
the right said about it is that Number one, it
was cold and just like Ronald Reagan, and Donald Trump
has survived in assassination attempt, just like Reagan. Right, they
were drawing parallels between Trump and Reagan, saying he's the
second coming of Reagan. Hang on, hang on, you asked,
I'm telling you. So that was the first thing. Okay.
The other thing is that do you know how many
tickets they gave out for the inauguration, Inauguration Day parade,
and the inauguration itself.
Speaker 2: Do you know how many hotel rooms were empty?
Speaker 1: Do you know? I'm asking Philip so No, I don't
know that, but I'm asking you how many? So I'm
asking you how many tickets did they give out for
the inauguration?
Speaker 2: Oh you mean how many tickets did the inauguration commits
to many give out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, for people to attend, probably to all.
Speaker 2: The dignitaries of the GOB. I would know that doblement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, we guess a number.
Speaker 2: It probably wasn't ten thousands.
Speaker 1: What did you say?
Speaker 2: It probably wasn't over ten thousands.
Speaker 1: Okay, it was a little bit higher. It was over
two hundred thousand tickets were given out. Yeah, sure, see
So here, So, Philip, this is the problem you are.
You are engaging in what is called a bad faith
discussion because you do not take any information that I
give you as even possibly true. You've already acknowledged that
you don't consume all the media that I do. And
so you but so you are. You are You're actually
celebrating your own ignorance, and you want me to reward
your ignorance with some sort of level of credibility and
credence that you haven't earned.
Speaker 2: They could give out a three hundred thousand tickets if
no one's booking the rooms to come?
Speaker 1: What why do you so?
Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take it.
Speaker 1: That's a fair question. So, Philip, why would let's say, why,
uh give me a scenario where you could contemplate a
bunch of people going to an event and not staying overnight.
Speaker 2: For the inauguration. Oh, I can give you. I can
go to my daughter's vandkin Serch and another county in
that stay overnight the presidential inauguration? Are people coming to
the watching the DC from all over the country the world?
Speaker 5: Are you?
Speaker 2: Are you really going to ask that question?
Speaker 1: I did ask that question so so so you kind
of got close to the answer, Philip, you kind of
got close to the answer, which is that people show up,
they attend the event, the rally because it was at
like noon, and then they go home.
Speaker 2: Okay, people are coming to the nation's capital. Yes, that
is the that is that is the premier destination. Yeah,
for for tourists in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not act but okay, yeah it is. I
mean it is a tourist Yeah, people do tour it.
Speaker 2: Sure, inauguration. What are you going to talk about?
Speaker 1: So, Philip, do you know? So, Philip, have you do
you know anything about the Trump rallies? Yeah? Do you
know who? Do you know what happens? I'll be more specific.
That's kind of open ended. I'll be more specific. Do
you know what happens before and outside and after the
Trump rallies.
Speaker 2: I've never been to a Trump rally.
Speaker 1: I didn't think you would have, but no, I'm but
are you aware, Like, are you aware what's.
Speaker 2: That I've never had I've never had any interest in
going to.
Speaker 1: I'm not asking you if you went to one. I'm
asking if you know what occurs outside the Trump rallies.
Speaker 2: What occurs outside of a Trump rally. I'm assuming, uh,
you have a bunch of people congregating and discussing how
they love uh President.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, it's like, uh, do you remember I
don't know how old you are, but do you remember
the do you remember that? I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't heard.
Speaker 1: I can't understand what you're saying. So the Trump rallies
are very similar to what the Grateful Dead shows used
to be like, except no drum circles and way less
pot smoking. But it's a it's there's a lot scene
they call the parking lots scene, and there are these
huge gatherings of people and a lot of these rallies
that are held in venues that can't actually hold all
of the people that show up to these things and so,
and the people that go are totally fine with that
because they enjoy just going and hanging out in the
parking lots and tailgating. Yeah yeah, yeah, they tailgate. They
but it's more than that. So because some of them
are not just like, yeah, so they show up, they travel,
They're in there, RVs and stuff. It's like a cross
between a dead show and a NASCAR race. It's like,
they show up. It's like a football.
Speaker 2: Game, larger than aples man, larger than apples.
Speaker 1: How would you know that, Philip? How would you know that?
You don't? You just admitted Hang on again, Philip, once again.
You just acknowledged, Philip, Philip, you just acknowledged that you
have no idea what occurs outside of these venues. And
then when I told you, you then proclaim that it
is somehow different, and I'm telling you it's not, and
you speaking from a position of self declared ignorance or
telling me that I'm wrong. That doesn't Philip, how could
you even possibly know that when you are ignorant of
the facts.
Speaker 2: Tell you listen, I'm gonna tell you comparing an inauguration
to a football game.
Speaker 1: Did I compare an inauguration to a football game? Did
I actually do that?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: I did not compare an inauguration to a football game.
I was speaking about, Philip. I was speaking about the
people that go to and that go to the Trump
rallies and the inauguration, that got all of the tickets,
and they travel, they drive, they hang out with each other.
They have this entire scene. You don't know about it,
and to you, it sounds completely unbelievable that people would
take a trip to go see the inauguration on the
East coast. They would drive somewhere from the East Coast.
They would go, they would see the inauguration, and they
would hang out in the parking lot for a couple hours,
and then they drive home. And then they drive home.
That's what the Trumpsters do. You don't know this because
you don't consume any other media besides the media that
tells you what you want to hear. And that is
why I consume leftist media. I read this stuff you read, Philip,
so I know what you believe, so I am prepared
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you sure have the crazies calling in today. I guess
they fhonally finally woke up after their binge in their
safe rooms on Tuesday. I did notice that I see
the uh. The leftist trolls have finally re emerged after
their post elections slumber. You know, because they've been They've
been hard to find in the last two months, basically
since the election. They haven't been calling. They've been they've
been off locking their wounds. But now Trump is back
in He's doing stuff. Now we got any material. Now
I can go after him for something. So now they're back,
I welcome the calls like I enjoy having discussions with people.
I prefer it be substantive. I prefer it be in
good faith. Now, if people like Philip, I don't believe
that's his real name, but if people like Philip prefer
not doing age in good faith and prefer to engage
in a different manner, well, I'm your Huncleberry Joy. Welcome
to the program. Hello Joy, Hello, Hello.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to say, I just think that you
can speak with people and you can give opinions, and
I think it's nice that you have a forum for
them to have their opinions, but you don't have to
have the nastiness and the ugliness like.
Speaker 1: Which part was which part was nasty?
Speaker 5: You know how you spoke about that person when you
cut him off and didn't let him reply back to you.
Speaker 1: He spoke first off, Joy, hang on, he was on
a he was on a clock. I know what the
clock said. He had the entire segment of almost nine
minutes to say whatever. Remember do you remember what he
first called in.
Speaker 5: About I do? And I think that is signed that
you gave him that forum to speak.
Speaker 1: I gave him plenty of time. What did I say
that degraded? What did I say that degraded him?
Speaker 5: When you when you cut when you cut the phone
call off, which was fine, that part was fine, But
then you talk about his comments, the type of comments
that he had.
Speaker 1: Oh, when I said that it was I said, it
was a dumb ass argument. That's what you that's what
you're objecting to is he's making a dumb ass argument.
Speaker 5: I am.
Speaker 1: So you don't like the fact that I called his
argument a dumb ass argument.
Speaker 5: I know that is fine for you to have your opinion,
but I think that is very degrading to that person
that you spoke with, no matter what their forum is.
The nastiness that you're ramping up towards he didn't get
to respond back to your comment, is what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Well, so here's I will give you a bit of
insight into the industry. Here. When you have your own show,
you get the last word.
Speaker 5: I understand that. Okay, does it mean that your your
listeners have to like what you do?
Speaker 1: No, That's why you're on right.
Speaker 5: Now exactly, and I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: So Joy, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to
tell you I'm probably going to have the last word
here after I hang up with you. And by the way,
I never I never hang up on people. I put
them on hold. I put them on hold, of course,
And if he had right, if he had stuck around
or something for a long period of time, the producer
at some point would have gone over and asked him, Hey,
are you still there? Not that he's going to be
able to get back on. But Philip that's not his
real name, calls regularly. Have you heard him before.
Speaker 5: Him before or not? Is I just think that you
don't have to be nasty though, Oh no.
Speaker 1: I don't have to. So first off, yeah, so here's
the thing you have, joy, You have your opinion. First
of all, I respect that. Second of all, me calling
somebody's argument a dumbass argument is not degradation of them
they are making. They have the power to make a
better argument. But Philip, not his real name, he calls
under assorted names. Philip does not engage in good faith.
Philip is a troll. Philip prefers to engage in that
way of arguing, and him to speak. I did allow
him to speak because I'm a nice guy. I let
people speak, and so I allowed him to speak. I
allowed him to make his argument as best he could.
And when it became clear that he couldn't even do
that without resorting to I mean, he started with the
name calling of various people, right, he started assumptions of
bad faith. Right, he started using all of these these
lazy crutches that people who don't know what they're talking about.
And are simply trolling that they use. That's what he did.
That's why I called his argument a dumb ass argument,
because that's what it is. It's not actually, it's not
based in intellectualism, it's not based in logic. It's just
meant to inflame, that's all.
Speaker 5: And so.
Speaker 1: And look, and I meet people where they are, and
Philip may not be able to communicate with people in
any other way. I have tried to talk to Philip
in the way i'm talking with you, and he doesn't respond.
He doesn't want that. So I give people what they want.
That's what he wanted. For all I know, he's posting
the stuff on YouTube and making money off of it,
and more power to him.
Speaker 5: Well, I just say, as a listener, I just I
don't like the nastiness is I don't think.
Speaker 1: I was nasty at all, not to him. I did
not degrade him at all, except I call him a troll.
I appreciate the call of joy. You'll see, I've put
you on hold so you can still hear me when
I'm saying to you, Philip was making a dumbass argument.
That is true. That is absolutely true. That's not degrading
to him. He can change, he can make better arguments.
I am trying to inspire him and motivate him to
make better arguments, be more logical and rational, and to
educate himself on the other sides of arguments. Shows a
lack of desire or maybe even an inability to do that,
and then chastises and attacks people who do that as
I did. Like I read the media that he reads.
He basically called me a liar. I think he actually
did call me a liar, so I get no, but
Joy did not find that to be offensive. I guess
that's okay. He can call me a liar and that's fine.
But I call an argument dumbass, and that's degradation. So
I disagree, agree to disagree, all right. I hope you
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You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then somebody says, hey,
did remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get
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Philip if that is his real name, mentioned about the
hotel occupancy rates or vacancy rates. He was trying to
say that, like all of these there, all the hotels
were empty or whatever. So I was curious about that.
And see, because I like I hear information, I'm like, oh,
that's interesting. I should go check and see if there's
more about that. Act. Actually, the hotels were surging until
they announced they were moving it, so you had all
of the hotel rooms like there was there was like
several news stories, different outlets that were reporting on a
there was some hotel that was offering like a seventy
three thousand dollars package deal seventy three thousand dollars for
hotel accommodations and such like a bundle deal or whatever,
and it sold out, and the hotels were sold out,
and then of course they moved it, and then people
canceled the hotels. So I don't know what Philip was
talking about, but I'm sure whatever news outlet he was
he was reading told him what to think on that.
Let me go over here and talk to Ray. Hello, Ray,
welcome to the program.
Speaker 5: Hello Pete, how are you doing.
Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good, sir. What's going on?
Speaker 6: I'll just call in defense of your encounter with Philip
all Ago. Okay, Yeah, it reminds me of someone that
might have had a secret desire to be a dentist
and have the one way conversation. You have to have
a conversation, you have to right, you have to have
a listener and the talker, and they can't both do
the same thing. At one time that was my comment thing.
Speaker 1: Now, to be fair, Ray, I think most of the
time that happens with the dental hygienist.
Speaker 5: Well that's true, that right, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Because like the dentist comes in after the hygienist has
done all the work, and the dentist comes in and
is like, you know, grabs your tongue, moves it around,
looks at stuff. Okay, okay, all right, looks good, you know,
after the hygienist did all of the grunt work. You know, Well,
thanks a love, yes, sir, I appreciate the call, Ray,
thank you. Next up here is Dan. Hello, Dan, Hey, Hey,
what's up?
Speaker 5: Hey?
Speaker 4: So, in reference to Philip, I went the inauguration. So
when I booked my room a few weeks back, I
had to stay outside of DC because there was nothing available.
And I was one of the I got the tickets
to that rally on on on Sunday, right, So I
got there late and I'm like, there's no one I'm
waiting in this line. So I went to the end
of the line just to walk around DC. We walked
back to the front of the Capital Arena. It was
over two miles long. The line was, the line was
and you know it wasn't a single file. I mean
it was groups of people ten twelve wide. The mile
was that I saw was and I wouldn't even start
the back It was over two miles long. There had
to be two hundred thousand people online.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, so the official count for the for the
ticket total was two hundred and twenty thousand tickets giving out.
And I got a message from Melissa who said, Philip
has no idea the process required for obtaining an inauguration
ticket as a recipient of one, I do. Tickets are
not just handed out. Perhaps if he shut his mouth
once in a while, he might learn something.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so so as hard as saying that he couldn't
get the crowd, and I can imagine how many people.
I was thought about canceling, but I said no, it's
a it's a history thing for me. So I wanted
to be there. But I said there was. The mile
was probably it was probably almost three miles long to
get into the arena, and I talked to people at
the end and they go, hey, we're being hopeful, and
I just started laughing because they had no idea. So
he was wrong. I'm not having the numbers there was.
I said, and then I've been to DC probably seven
eight times. I have never seen so many people there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy.
Speaker 4: So love the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Dan, I appreciate the call. Yeah, well, I
mean you realize that, and I realized the point why
he raised that attack, which was a pivot away from
something that he couldn't defend. H So he you know,
deflected with this other attack. Well you know why he
moved it. You know why he moved it, right, he
started that line. So why would he do that? Because
the left believes and not they're not mistaken in this
is that Trump is very sensitive about attacks against his
crowd size. Right, we know this, and so so that's
why they keep saying stuff like that. That's why they
make these jokes because they know it hurts him. And
so here's the difference. I don't care about the crowd sizes,
Like that doesn't matter to me. Like I can look
at a crowd and say, oh, it's a big crowd,
and that's it, Like that's the extent of my thinking
about it. Like I don't. I mean, if I'm doing
an event and I want it to be a big crowd,
then yes, I would want it to be a big crowd,
and I would probably get a little irked if people
were running around saying it's not really a big crowd.
But I also wouldn't go out and lie about the
size of crowds when they're not large, right. I wouldn't
say that either. I would say, oh, it's a good
sized crowd. I was happy to get it, always want more, whatever, whatever,
But I wouldn't lie and say it was a bigger
crowd than it actually was. But that's the reason why
went there. He's trying to attack Donald Trump, and he
was trying to, I guess, get me to defend Donald
Trump and his sensitivity about crowd sizes or something. And
so that's again, like wrong guy to make that argument against,
because I don't care, Like I'm just gonna look at
the crowd size. I'm gonn look at the ticketcount. I'm
gonna say, Okay, you don't know what you're talking about.
You're just trying to make fun of Donald Trump, that's all.
And had he, you know, had he just copped to that,
I guess probably it would have gone a little bit
better for him. At Patriot Girl says Philip is nothing
but a troll. Don't feed the trolls. Look, okay, I
get this line of thinking as well, that don't feed
the trolls or anything. But I also like, do you
get mad at a cat when it is playing with
a ball of yarn? Do you get angry at the
cat saying don't play with that ball of yarn. It's
just a ball of yarn. I'm the cat. I just
I enjoy it. I enjoy it, and I so I
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Let me go and speak with Next up here is Joe. Hello, Joe,
Welcome to the show. Joe.
Speaker 7: Hey, how you doing?
Speaker 1: But Hey, I'm good. What's up?
Speaker 7: Nothing much? I was just gonna say, it's like I
told your screener, you're given the Phila James Keith, whatever
his name is. We're giving him a little bit too
much airtime because that's probably exactly what he wants. But yeah,
I agree with your state statement of the mastering. Yeah,
and that's exactly what that was. But yeah, I just
love your show and listen to you every day.
Speaker 1: But well, thanks, Joe, No, I appreciate it. Look, and
I get the there is it? You know, this is
the same thing like do you platform somebody or not,
do you let them speak or not? That kind of thing.
And I am generally of the opinion in most cases
that you let people speak and you that, you know,
you let them espouse their bad ideas or their dumbass
arguments in Phillip's case, and then you dismantle those ideas.
You beat the bad ideas with good ideas. And that's
why I give people like Philip the time to attempt
to make some sort of an argument. And maybe one
day Philip will be able to do it. I mean,
we can dream here, people like if we can dream
of going to Mars, we can dream that Philip will
make a rational, logical, cogent, coherent argument. I mean, are
we Americans or Americans? Come on, let me see here.
Next is John, Hello, John, Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey, hey Pete, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: Good man? What's up?
Speaker 3: I was at the I was in DC last weekend,
and I can tell you those hotels were packed, even
though a lot of the stuff was canceled with people
were everywhere and the hotel I stayed. It was a
nice hotel right by the capitol. Two weeks ago A
friend one up there for the congressional swearing in. I
paid ten times the rate he paid the exact same
room with a three night minimum, paid in advance, no cancelations,
and the place was packed. So you know, you know,
Philip can pretend like there was no demand for this,
but it was. The hotels everywhere from an hour outside,
we're all sold out, and they all pretty much had
the same, you know, quadruple or more the rates, and
like I said, three night minimums with no cancelations. So
you know, people were willing to pay to go to
this event. So you know, for them to try to
diminish and say, oh, nobody's showing up, it's crazy. Well,
even after everything was canceled, the place was packed.
Speaker 1: So to be fair, in Phillip's defense, he made a
lot of arguments and statements based on based out of
pure ignorance. So why wouldn't his comment about the hotel
vacancies be based in anything but ignorance as well? Like
so it was very much on brand.
Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we expect them to left from him when
he does, so, I mean and you're right. It is
like a cat's smacking, you know, a ball around. It
is humorous. Yes, And well, the thing is he keeps
coming back.
Speaker 1: Right, and look there is also there's another and this
is this is an important reason to why I bring
why I allow people like Philip to have all the
time that he can muster and I can bear to
make these dumbass arguments, is because the stuff he says
he is repeating from you know, news sources, from whatever
TikTokers he watches or whatever, like these thoughts are not
his original thoughts. He is regurgitating this stuff because I
see it. I see it in these other you know,
news sites or on websites and stuff. And so it's
important to know what your opponents are thinking and how
they think, so you are better prepared to do battle.
And like that's if I didn't know what the what
the ticket counts were, right, Philip could have had his
way with me in that discussion because I didn't know.
I would have just said, oh, well, I guess you're correct.
And I bet that the way Philip presents his arguments
in his real life to people that that don't know
that are more ignorant about particular things than he is.
They'll just believe him, right, They'll just say, oh, well,
I guess he sounds like he knows what he's talking about,
and he does it.
Speaker 3: I think Phillips gets most of his information from Facebook
memes and uses that as his basis.
Speaker 1: Well, he's going to get exposed to a lot more
conservative memes now, I think under the under the new regime.
So we'll see. John. I appreciate the call. Good to
hear from you, buddy, have a great day. Hi man,
you two. This is going to message here from Alan.
He says, Philip is using a false name. He's the
same clown who calls Vince all the time. His only
interest or hearing his own voice and listening to his
own opinions. Why he keeps walking into your intellectual buzzsaw
is so entertaining. He has no sense of self awareness.
And then Mark says, Pete, you give all callers and
guests a section of rope. It is up to them
to turn it into a swing or a noose. And
that is exactly right. And Mark, I believe is the
man who told me that axiom lo those many years ago,
and it is good advice. Let people talk let me
hear what you have to say. Oh really, Oh that's interesting.
Oh you don't say, Oh, can you elaborate on that?
What's your proof of that? What's the evidence for that claim?
As I asked Philip, And the more you talk, the
stupider and stupider the argument becomes. All right, that'll do
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