1 00:00:04,879 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: What's going on? Thank you so much for listening to 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,640 this podcast. It is heard live every day from noon 3 00:00:09,679 --> 00:00:12,519 to three on WBT Radio in Charlotte. And if you 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,719 want exclusive content like invitations to events, the weekly live stream, 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,239 my daily show prep with all the links, become a patron, 6 00:00:19,320 --> 00:00:22,600 go to dpeteclendershow dot com. Make sure you hit the 7 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:25,160 subscribe button. Get every episode for free right to your 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,679 smartphone or tablet. And again, thank you so much for 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:31,839 your support. So our number three, I'm gonna shift gears 10 00:00:31,839 --> 00:00:36,759 into Biden's inner circle, protecting a faltering president. Now it 11 00:00:36,799 --> 00:00:41,240 can be reported, but Philip has been calling back because 12 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,640 maybe he's been having power outages and so he's been 13 00:00:43,679 --> 00:00:48,799 waiting a very long time. So Philip, welcome to the program. 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,079 Speaker 2: Hi, how you doing to day, sir? 15 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,119 Speaker 1: I'm all right. I can barely hear you. Are you 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:53,920 on speakerphone? 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:56,479 Speaker 2: No, I'm not on the speakerphoone. Can you hear me better. 18 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,479 Speaker 1: Now a little bit? Yeah? 19 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:02,079 Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, going to get rid of Obamacare or what's 20 00:01:02,119 --> 00:01:02,439 going on? 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:02,759 Speaker 3: Man? 22 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,079 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I don't think so. 23 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 4: No. 24 00:01:07,519 --> 00:01:08,480 Speaker 5: I thought. 25 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:12,439 Speaker 2: That was his big promise. 26 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:15,799 Speaker 1: Yeah, he promised that for years. 27 00:01:16,879 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, so what what what changed? 28 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: Well, so I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you this is 29 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:26,719 a dirty secret in politics A lot of times. Uh, 30 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,760 and by a lot, I mean like ninety nine percent 31 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:32,319 of the time politicians make promises and then they don't 32 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:34,840 keep them. 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 5: Yeah. 34 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 2: But what changed about him getting rid of Obamacare? 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: What? What? 36 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 3: What changed? 37 00:01:41,239 --> 00:01:44,799 Speaker 1: Well? That was the campaign and now he's actually in office. 38 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: So he was never going to get rid of Obamacue. 39 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,599 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, if you ask him, like 40 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:51,760 if he if he had the ability to do so, 41 00:01:52,599 --> 00:01:55,040 I suspect he probably would if if he looked at 42 00:01:55,079 --> 00:01:57,640 the polling, you know, and somebody and his advisors told 43 00:01:57,719 --> 00:01:59,120 him that it would be a good thing for him 44 00:01:59,159 --> 00:02:00,760 to do, I'm sure he would do it. I don't 45 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:02,439 know what his heart is on that. I know he 46 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:04,480 said he would overturn it. I know he attempted to. 47 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,359 They ran the legislation, and then John McCain, in a 48 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,520 fit of pettiness, uh and anger, as John McCain was 49 00:02:11,599 --> 00:02:16,120 known for, he you know, John McCain cast the deciding vote. 50 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,800 I'm going to finish my sentence. He cast the deciding 51 00:02:18,879 --> 00:02:23,159 vote to keep Obamacare and just spit in the face 52 00:02:23,199 --> 00:02:26,080 of all of the Republicans that had run on that promise. 53 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 2: But he had the House and the Senate there, right, 54 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:29,919 so he can, Yes. 55 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: If you have enough votes in the Senate to override 56 00:02:33,159 --> 00:02:34,960 or to to overcome a filibuster. 57 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,319 Speaker 2: You know what I think you know what I think 58 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,599 it is. But I think they're more Republicans have Obamacare 59 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:44,080 than Democrats. Now, I think that's probably why he won't 60 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:44,599 mess with it. 61 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: Now, what's your evidence for that claim? I'm sorry, what 62 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:51,360 is your evidence for that claim? 63 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 2: All of the local governments in the Red states they 64 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:58,240 love Obamacare, they love it. 65 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: What is your evidence for that claim? 66 00:03:02,719 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 2: Statistics? 67 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: What statistics? 68 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:11,159 Speaker 2: Overwhelming majority of Republicans are using Obamacare and. 69 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,599 Speaker 1: Over hang on? Hang on, I hang on, hang on, Philip. 70 00:03:13,599 --> 00:03:15,360 I'm writing this down because what I'm going to do 71 00:03:15,439 --> 00:03:17,080 is I'm going to check your data because I don't 72 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 believe you know what you're talking about. I am right. 73 00:03:19,319 --> 00:03:22,039 So you said a majority. So you said a majority 74 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:27,039 of the Republicans are are on Obamacare. 75 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, absolutely, Okay. Let me tell you one other thing. 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:35,439 The reason that the presidential inauguration was ailed in Rotanda, 77 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:36,680 you know what the real. 78 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: Reason is, right, I'm sure you'll tell me. 79 00:03:39,639 --> 00:03:40,439 Speaker 2: Well, you don't know. 80 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,479 Speaker 1: I don't know what you think it is, but I'm 81 00:03:43,479 --> 00:03:45,520 sure you think you do, So go ahead and say 82 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,000 what you think it is. But oh, hang on, hang on, 83 00:03:47,039 --> 00:03:48,479 I bet I can guess. Let me guess, Philip. I'm 84 00:03:48,479 --> 00:03:50,919 gonna go ahead and guess. I'm gonna guess that you 85 00:03:51,039 --> 00:03:53,680 believe it was held in the rotunda because he couldn't 86 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:56,719 actually get the crowd size exactly. 87 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: You are smart, dude. 88 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I just know. I just I can left 89 00:04:00,439 --> 00:04:03,840 wing media. I read. No, I I read, I read 90 00:04:03,919 --> 00:04:06,800 left wing media, so I know what your arguments. 91 00:04:06,319 --> 00:04:09,479 Speaker 2: Are exactly the reason. 92 00:04:09,599 --> 00:04:10,919 Speaker 1: Admit it, man, admit what. 93 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:13,759 Speaker 2: You already know that. 94 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: So wait, Philip, Philip, Philip, hang on, hang on, hang on, Philip. 95 00:04:17,399 --> 00:04:19,480 So I want to be clear, I just told you 96 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:23,079 something and you just to completely ignored it. Right. I said, 97 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:25,759 I know what you were going to say because I 98 00:04:25,879 --> 00:04:28,600 consume left wing media, So I knew what you were 99 00:04:28,639 --> 00:04:29,399 going to say. 100 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,079 Speaker 5: That was a lie. 101 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: So worry what part's a lie that I consume, that 102 00:04:35,079 --> 00:04:38,199 I consume left wing that I read leftist media, that 103 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,759 I you could. 104 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: Have gotten it on the right hand side as well. 105 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:44,600 Speaker 1: The right wasn't reporting. No, you know what the right. 106 00:04:44,759 --> 00:04:48,600 You know what the right was reporting. So you don't know, 107 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,600 but I do because I read that also, so the 108 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,279 right wing media. I will tell you, No, I will 109 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,120 tell you. And this this illustrates my point. I would 110 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,120 dare say, it's proof of what I just said that 111 00:04:58,199 --> 00:05:00,240 I read left wing media, so I knew what you 112 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,439 were going to say. But you don't consume ring media, 113 00:05:02,639 --> 00:05:04,160 so you did not know what I was going to 114 00:05:04,199 --> 00:05:05,839 say or what the right is saying about it. What 115 00:05:05,879 --> 00:05:08,800 the right said about it is that Number one, it 116 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,279 was cold and just like Ronald Reagan, and Donald Trump 117 00:05:12,519 --> 00:05:17,040 has survived in assassination attempt, just like Reagan. Right, they 118 00:05:17,079 --> 00:05:20,639 were drawing parallels between Trump and Reagan, saying he's the 119 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:22,959 second coming of Reagan. Hang on, hang on, you asked, 120 00:05:22,959 --> 00:05:25,360 I'm telling you. So that was the first thing. Okay. 121 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,000 The other thing is that do you know how many 122 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:33,279 tickets they gave out for the inauguration, Inauguration Day parade, 123 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:35,040 and the inauguration itself. 124 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,399 Speaker 2: Do you know how many hotel rooms were empty? 125 00:05:39,439 --> 00:05:43,519 Speaker 1: Do you know? I'm asking Philip so No, I don't 126 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,519 know that, but I'm asking you how many? So I'm 127 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:48,720 asking you how many tickets did they give out for 128 00:05:48,759 --> 00:05:49,439 the inauguration? 129 00:05:51,319 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 2: Oh you mean how many tickets did the inauguration commits 130 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:55,959 to many give out? 131 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, for people to attend, probably to all. 132 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: The dignitaries of the GOB. I would know that doblement. 133 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, like, we guess a number. 134 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: It probably wasn't ten thousands. 135 00:06:10,639 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: What did you say? 136 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 2: It probably wasn't over ten thousands. 137 00:06:14,439 --> 00:06:19,079 Speaker 1: Okay, it was a little bit higher. It was over 138 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:24,279 two hundred thousand tickets were given out. Yeah, sure, see 139 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,639 So here, So, Philip, this is the problem you are. 140 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:29,120 You are engaging in what is called a bad faith 141 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:33,279 discussion because you do not take any information that I 142 00:06:33,399 --> 00:06:38,079 give you as even possibly true. You've already acknowledged that 143 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:42,639 you don't consume all the media that I do. And 144 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,199 so you but so you are. You are You're actually 145 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,600 celebrating your own ignorance, and you want me to reward 146 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:51,959 your ignorance with some sort of level of credibility and 147 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:53,399 credence that you haven't earned. 148 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: They could give out a three hundred thousand tickets if 149 00:06:56,639 --> 00:06:58,399 no one's booking the rooms to come? 150 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: What why do you so? 151 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:01,879 Speaker 5: Okay, I'll take it. 152 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: That's a fair question. So, Philip, why would let's say, why, 153 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,959 uh give me a scenario where you could contemplate a 154 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,920 bunch of people going to an event and not staying overnight. 155 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: For the inauguration. Oh, I can give you. I can 156 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,079 go to my daughter's vandkin Serch and another county in 157 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:26,720 that stay overnight the presidential inauguration? Are people coming to 158 00:07:26,839 --> 00:07:30,439 the watching the DC from all over the country the world? 159 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 5: Are you? 160 00:07:32,279 --> 00:07:33,759 Speaker 2: Are you really going to ask that question? 161 00:07:33,879 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: I did ask that question so so so you kind 162 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,439 of got close to the answer, Philip, you kind of 163 00:07:38,439 --> 00:07:42,120 got close to the answer, which is that people show up, 164 00:07:42,319 --> 00:07:44,600 they attend the event, the rally because it was at 165 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,839 like noon, and then they go home. 166 00:07:49,079 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 2: Okay, people are coming to the nation's capital. Yes, that 167 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,839 is the that is that is the premier destination. Yeah, 168 00:07:55,879 --> 00:07:58,560 for for tourists in the world. 169 00:07:58,839 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not act but okay, yeah it is. I 170 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,399 mean it is a tourist Yeah, people do tour it. 171 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:08,160 Speaker 2: Sure, inauguration. What are you going to talk about? 172 00:08:08,199 --> 00:08:10,279 Speaker 1: So, Philip, do you know? So, Philip, have you do 173 00:08:10,319 --> 00:08:15,199 you know anything about the Trump rallies? Yeah? Do you 174 00:08:15,279 --> 00:08:17,720 know who? Do you know what happens? I'll be more specific. 175 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:19,600 That's kind of open ended. I'll be more specific. Do 176 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:24,959 you know what happens before and outside and after the 177 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:25,800 Trump rallies. 178 00:08:27,319 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: I've never been to a Trump rally. 179 00:08:28,839 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: I didn't think you would have, but no, I'm but 180 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,720 are you aware, Like, are you aware what's. 181 00:08:34,519 --> 00:08:37,799 Speaker 2: That I've never had I've never had any interest in 182 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:38,279 going to. 183 00:08:38,399 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you if you went to one. I'm 184 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,159 asking if you know what occurs outside the Trump rallies. 185 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:48,840 Speaker 2: What occurs outside of a Trump rally. I'm assuming, uh, 186 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,919 you have a bunch of people congregating and discussing how 187 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:54,399 they love uh President. 188 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. 189 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, it's like, uh, do you remember I 190 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,639 don't know how old you are, but do you remember 191 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,440 the do you remember that? I didn't. 192 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,639 Speaker 2: I didn't heard. 193 00:09:06,879 --> 00:09:11,639 Speaker 1: I can't understand what you're saying. So the Trump rallies 194 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:14,440 are very similar to what the Grateful Dead shows used 195 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,960 to be like, except no drum circles and way less 196 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:21,440 pot smoking. But it's a it's there's a lot scene 197 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,080 they call the parking lots scene, and there are these 198 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,279 huge gatherings of people and a lot of these rallies 199 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,120 that are held in venues that can't actually hold all 200 00:09:32,159 --> 00:09:34,679 of the people that show up to these things and so, 201 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:37,320 and the people that go are totally fine with that 202 00:09:37,799 --> 00:09:41,399 because they enjoy just going and hanging out in the 203 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:47,000 parking lots and tailgating. Yeah yeah, yeah, they tailgate. They 204 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:48,879 but it's more than that. So because some of them 205 00:09:48,919 --> 00:09:51,919 are not just like, yeah, so they show up, they travel, 206 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:54,360 They're in there, RVs and stuff. It's like a cross 207 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:56,799 between a dead show and a NASCAR race. It's like, 208 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,759 they show up. It's like a football. 209 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: Game, larger than aples man, larger than apples. 210 00:10:02,759 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: How would you know that, Philip? How would you know that? 211 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,600 You don't? You just admitted Hang on again, Philip, once again. 212 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:14,559 You just acknowledged, Philip, Philip, you just acknowledged that you 213 00:10:14,639 --> 00:10:18,720 have no idea what occurs outside of these venues. And 214 00:10:18,759 --> 00:10:21,519 then when I told you, you then proclaim that it 215 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,320 is somehow different, and I'm telling you it's not, and 216 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,799 you speaking from a position of self declared ignorance or 217 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:32,639 telling me that I'm wrong. That doesn't Philip, how could 218 00:10:32,639 --> 00:10:35,840 you even possibly know that when you are ignorant of 219 00:10:35,879 --> 00:10:36,480 the facts. 220 00:10:36,879 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 2: Tell you listen, I'm gonna tell you comparing an inauguration 221 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:42,720 to a football game. 222 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Did I compare an inauguration to a football game? Did 223 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:47,200 I actually do that? 224 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:47,399 Speaker 5: No? 225 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: I did not compare an inauguration to a football game. 226 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,720 I was speaking about, Philip. I was speaking about the 227 00:10:53,799 --> 00:10:56,600 people that go to and that go to the Trump 228 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,919 rallies and the inauguration, that got all of the tickets, 229 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 and they travel, they drive, they hang out with each other. 230 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,519 They have this entire scene. You don't know about it, 231 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,200 and to you, it sounds completely unbelievable that people would 232 00:11:10,279 --> 00:11:13,360 take a trip to go see the inauguration on the 233 00:11:13,399 --> 00:11:16,600 East coast. They would drive somewhere from the East Coast. 234 00:11:16,639 --> 00:11:19,120 They would go, they would see the inauguration, and they 235 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:21,279 would hang out in the parking lot for a couple hours, 236 00:11:21,279 --> 00:11:23,919 and then they drive home. And then they drive home. 237 00:11:24,759 --> 00:11:28,360 That's what the Trumpsters do. 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Today, 265 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:09,559 you sure have the crazies calling in today. I guess 266 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,200 they fhonally finally woke up after their binge in their 267 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:17,559 safe rooms on Tuesday. I did notice that I see 268 00:13:17,639 --> 00:13:22,080 the uh. The leftist trolls have finally re emerged after 269 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:27,919 their post elections slumber. You know, because they've been They've 270 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,720 been hard to find in the last two months, basically 271 00:13:30,799 --> 00:13:34,360 since the election. They haven't been calling. They've been they've 272 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,000 been off locking their wounds. But now Trump is back 273 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:39,240 in He's doing stuff. Now we got any material. Now 274 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,240 I can go after him for something. So now they're back, 275 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:46,799 I welcome the calls like I enjoy having discussions with people. 276 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:50,960 I prefer it be substantive. I prefer it be in 277 00:13:51,039 --> 00:13:55,200 good faith. Now, if people like Philip, I don't believe 278 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,120 that's his real name, but if people like Philip prefer 279 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,919 not doing age in good faith and prefer to engage 280 00:14:01,919 --> 00:14:06,360 in a different manner, well, I'm your Huncleberry Joy. Welcome 281 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,919 to the program. Hello Joy, Hello, Hello. 282 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,039 Speaker 5: I just wanted to say, I just think that you 283 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,919 can speak with people and you can give opinions, and 284 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,679 I think it's nice that you have a forum for 285 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:26,240 them to have their opinions, but you don't have to 286 00:14:26,279 --> 00:14:29,440 have the nastiness and the ugliness like. 287 00:14:29,399 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: Which part was which part was nasty? 288 00:14:34,039 --> 00:14:36,559 Speaker 5: You know how you spoke about that person when you 289 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:39,559 cut him off and didn't let him reply back to you. 290 00:14:39,919 --> 00:14:42,039 Speaker 1: He spoke first off, Joy, hang on, he was on 291 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,159 a he was on a clock. I know what the 292 00:14:45,159 --> 00:14:49,039 clock said. He had the entire segment of almost nine 293 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,200 minutes to say whatever. Remember do you remember what he 294 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:51,840 first called in. 295 00:14:51,799 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 5: About I do? And I think that is signed that 296 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:58,440 you gave him that forum to speak. 297 00:14:58,519 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: I gave him plenty of time. What did I say 298 00:15:01,399 --> 00:15:04,360 that degraded? What did I say that degraded him? 299 00:15:05,879 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 5: When you when you cut when you cut the phone 300 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,759 call off, which was fine, that part was fine, But 301 00:15:12,919 --> 00:15:16,200 then you talk about his comments, the type of comments 302 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:16,879 that he had. 303 00:15:17,039 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: Oh, when I said that it was I said, it 304 00:15:19,279 --> 00:15:21,360 was a dumb ass argument. That's what you that's what 305 00:15:21,399 --> 00:15:23,960 you're objecting to is he's making a dumb ass argument. 306 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 5: I am. 307 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: So you don't like the fact that I called his 308 00:15:29,159 --> 00:15:30,679 argument a dumb ass argument. 309 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 5: I know that is fine for you to have your opinion, 310 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,279 but I think that is very degrading to that person 311 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,519 that you spoke with, no matter what their forum is. 312 00:15:43,279 --> 00:15:46,679 The nastiness that you're ramping up towards he didn't get 313 00:15:46,679 --> 00:15:50,320 to respond back to your comment, is what I'm saying. 314 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: Well, so here's I will give you a bit of 315 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,960 insight into the industry. Here. When you have your own show, 316 00:15:58,720 --> 00:15:59,759 you get the last word. 317 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 5: I understand that. Okay, does it mean that your your 318 00:16:04,279 --> 00:16:05,759 listeners have to like what you do? 319 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,559 Speaker 1: No, That's why you're on right. 320 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 5: Now exactly, and I appreciate that. 321 00:16:10,639 --> 00:16:12,320 Speaker 1: So Joy, I'm going to tell you. I'm going to 322 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:14,080 tell you I'm probably going to have the last word 323 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,360 here after I hang up with you. And by the way, 324 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,600 I never I never hang up on people. I put 325 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:21,799 them on hold. I put them on hold, of course, 326 00:16:21,960 --> 00:16:24,240 And if he had right, if he had stuck around 327 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:26,600 or something for a long period of time, the producer 328 00:16:26,639 --> 00:16:29,120 at some point would have gone over and asked him, Hey, 329 00:16:29,159 --> 00:16:31,600 are you still there? Not that he's going to be 330 00:16:31,639 --> 00:16:34,039 able to get back on. But Philip that's not his 331 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,919 real name, calls regularly. Have you heard him before. 332 00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:43,559 Speaker 5: Him before or not? Is I just think that you 333 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,440 don't have to be nasty though, Oh no. 334 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't have to. So first off, yeah, so here's 335 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:52,000 the thing you have, joy, You have your opinion. First 336 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,320 of all, I respect that. Second of all, me calling 337 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,120 somebody's argument a dumbass argument is not degradation of them 338 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,360 they are making. They have the power to make a 339 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:05,440 better argument. But Philip, not his real name, he calls 340 00:17:05,480 --> 00:17:09,720 under assorted names. Philip does not engage in good faith. 341 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,359 Philip is a troll. Philip prefers to engage in that 342 00:17:13,559 --> 00:17:18,960 way of arguing, and him to speak. I did allow 343 00:17:19,039 --> 00:17:21,200 him to speak because I'm a nice guy. I let 344 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,720 people speak, and so I allowed him to speak. I 345 00:17:23,759 --> 00:17:26,319 allowed him to make his argument as best he could. 346 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:28,440 And when it became clear that he couldn't even do 347 00:17:28,519 --> 00:17:31,759 that without resorting to I mean, he started with the 348 00:17:31,839 --> 00:17:35,440 name calling of various people, right, he started assumptions of 349 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,079 bad faith. Right, he started using all of these these 350 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,640 lazy crutches that people who don't know what they're talking about. 351 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,640 And are simply trolling that they use. That's what he did. 352 00:17:45,839 --> 00:17:48,680 That's why I called his argument a dumb ass argument, 353 00:17:48,839 --> 00:17:51,599 because that's what it is. It's not actually, it's not 354 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,200 based in intellectualism, it's not based in logic. It's just 355 00:17:55,599 --> 00:17:57,599 meant to inflame, that's all. 356 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 5: And so. 357 00:17:58,279 --> 00:18:00,880 Speaker 1: And look, and I meet people where they are, and 358 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,240 Philip may not be able to communicate with people in 359 00:18:03,319 --> 00:18:06,400 any other way. I have tried to talk to Philip 360 00:18:06,559 --> 00:18:09,160 in the way i'm talking with you, and he doesn't respond. 361 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:12,480 He doesn't want that. So I give people what they want. 362 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:14,960 That's what he wanted. For all I know, he's posting 363 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,359 the stuff on YouTube and making money off of it, 364 00:18:17,519 --> 00:18:19,759 and more power to him. 365 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 5: Well, I just say, as a listener, I just I 366 00:18:22,279 --> 00:18:25,599 don't like the nastiness is I don't think. 367 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,559 Speaker 1: I was nasty at all, not to him. I did 368 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,799 not degrade him at all, except I call him a troll. 369 00:18:30,279 --> 00:18:32,359 I appreciate the call of joy. You'll see, I've put 370 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,440 you on hold so you can still hear me when 371 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,759 I'm saying to you, Philip was making a dumbass argument. 372 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:44,440 That is true. That is absolutely true. That's not degrading 373 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:47,960 to him. He can change, he can make better arguments. 374 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:51,559 I am trying to inspire him and motivate him to 375 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:55,480 make better arguments, be more logical and rational, and to 376 00:18:55,640 --> 00:19:01,200 educate himself on the other sides of arguments. Shows a 377 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,680 lack of desire or maybe even an inability to do that, 378 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:11,039 and then chastises and attacks people who do that as 379 00:19:11,079 --> 00:19:14,440 I did. Like I read the media that he reads. 380 00:19:14,519 --> 00:19:17,839 He basically called me a liar. I think he actually 381 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,920 did call me a liar, so I get no, but 382 00:19:21,039 --> 00:19:23,240 Joy did not find that to be offensive. I guess 383 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,720 that's okay. He can call me a liar and that's fine. 384 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,039 But I call an argument dumbass, and that's degradation. So 385 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:35,480 I disagree, agree to disagree, all right. I hope you 386 00:19:35,519 --> 00:19:38,240 had a happy holiday season. But tell me if something 387 00:19:38,319 --> 00:19:40,960 like this happened at your house. Your family and friends 388 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:43,279 are gathered around, maybe y'all are in the living room, 389 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,559 You're laughing, swapping stories, reminiscing, and then somebody says, hey, 390 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:50,799 did remember those old VHS tapes? Did you ever get 391 00:19:50,799 --> 00:19:54,119 them transferred? And then the room gets all quiet. All 392 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,079 eyes are on Dad, who says, oh, you know, well, 393 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,519 I've been meaning to but I just having gotten around 394 00:19:59,519 --> 00:20:02,799 to it. Look, don't let those priceless memories sit in 395 00:20:02,839 --> 00:20:04,279 a box for another year. 396 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 5: All right. 397 00:20:04,759 --> 00:20:07,599 Speaker 1: Create a Video has been helping families in the Charlotte 398 00:20:07,640 --> 00:20:11,440 area preserve their history since nineteen ninety seven. Simply bring 399 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,920 in your old camquarder tapes and Creative Video will transfer 400 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:18,119 them to a USB flash drive for just fourteen ninety 401 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,480 five per tape. You have a big collection, they've got 402 00:20:20,519 --> 00:20:23,640 a discount for you. And next year, instead of talking 403 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:28,480 about those memories, imagine gathering the family to watch them together. 404 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:31,359 Talk about a memorable gift. So do what I did. 405 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,240 Trust the experts at Creative Video, conveniently located in mint 406 00:20:35,279 --> 00:20:38,119 Hill right off I four eighty five and online at 407 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,000 create a Video dot com. By the way, something that 408 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,920 Philip if that is his real name, mentioned about the 409 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,519 hotel occupancy rates or vacancy rates. He was trying to 410 00:20:48,559 --> 00:20:50,559 say that, like all of these there, all the hotels 411 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:53,119 were empty or whatever. So I was curious about that. 412 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:56,920 And see, because I like I hear information, I'm like, oh, 413 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,119 that's interesting. I should go check and see if there's 414 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:03,559 more about that. Act. Actually, the hotels were surging until 415 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,079 they announced they were moving it, so you had all 416 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,759 of the hotel rooms like there was there was like 417 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,759 several news stories, different outlets that were reporting on a 418 00:21:13,519 --> 00:21:15,599 there was some hotel that was offering like a seventy 419 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:24,640 three thousand dollars package deal seventy three thousand dollars for 420 00:21:24,799 --> 00:21:28,480 hotel accommodations and such like a bundle deal or whatever, 421 00:21:30,839 --> 00:21:35,200 and it sold out, and the hotels were sold out, 422 00:21:35,319 --> 00:21:37,160 and then of course they moved it, and then people 423 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,759 canceled the hotels. So I don't know what Philip was 424 00:21:41,759 --> 00:21:45,359 talking about, but I'm sure whatever news outlet he was 425 00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:49,559 he was reading told him what to think on that. 426 00:21:50,759 --> 00:21:53,279 Let me go over here and talk to Ray. Hello, Ray, 427 00:21:53,319 --> 00:21:54,759 welcome to the program. 428 00:21:55,079 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 5: Hello Pete, how are you doing. 429 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,839 Speaker 1: Hey, I'm good, sir. What's going on? 430 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:04,559 Speaker 6: I'll just call in defense of your encounter with Philip 431 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,160 all Ago. Okay, Yeah, it reminds me of someone that 432 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,119 might have had a secret desire to be a dentist 433 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:18,480 and have the one way conversation. You have to have 434 00:22:18,519 --> 00:22:21,599 a conversation, you have to right, you have to have 435 00:22:21,640 --> 00:22:24,519 a listener and the talker, and they can't both do 436 00:22:24,599 --> 00:22:27,640 the same thing. At one time that was my comment thing. 437 00:22:27,759 --> 00:22:29,839 Speaker 1: Now, to be fair, Ray, I think most of the 438 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,200 time that happens with the dental hygienist. 439 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 5: Well that's true, that right, Yeah. 440 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: Because like the dentist comes in after the hygienist has 441 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,440 done all the work, and the dentist comes in and 442 00:22:41,559 --> 00:22:44,240 is like, you know, grabs your tongue, moves it around, 443 00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:47,319 looks at stuff. Okay, okay, all right, looks good, you know, 444 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,559 after the hygienist did all of the grunt work. You know, Well, 445 00:22:52,599 --> 00:22:55,640 thanks a love, yes, sir, I appreciate the call, Ray, 446 00:22:55,640 --> 00:23:00,480 thank you. Next up here is Dan. Hello, Dan, Hey, Hey, 447 00:23:00,519 --> 00:23:00,960 what's up? 448 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:01,599 Speaker 5: Hey? 449 00:23:02,039 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 4: So, in reference to Philip, I went the inauguration. So 450 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:08,599 when I booked my room a few weeks back, I 451 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,720 had to stay outside of DC because there was nothing available. 452 00:23:12,279 --> 00:23:14,240 And I was one of the I got the tickets 453 00:23:14,279 --> 00:23:17,279 to that rally on on on Sunday, right, So I 454 00:23:17,319 --> 00:23:19,559 got there late and I'm like, there's no one I'm 455 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:21,839 waiting in this line. So I went to the end 456 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,279 of the line just to walk around DC. We walked 457 00:23:25,319 --> 00:23:27,480 back to the front of the Capital Arena. It was 458 00:23:27,559 --> 00:23:31,319 over two miles long. The line was, the line was 459 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,200 and you know it wasn't a single file. I mean 460 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,359 it was groups of people ten twelve wide. The mile 461 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,599 was that I saw was and I wouldn't even start 462 00:23:38,599 --> 00:23:41,200 the back It was over two miles long. There had 463 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,079 to be two hundred thousand people online. 464 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,599 Speaker 1: Well yeah, so the official count for the for the 465 00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:50,359 ticket total was two hundred and twenty thousand tickets giving out. 466 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,799 And I got a message from Melissa who said, Philip 467 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:59,039 has no idea the process required for obtaining an inauguration 468 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:03,000 ticket as a recipient of one, I do. Tickets are 469 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,599 not just handed out. Perhaps if he shut his mouth 470 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,000 once in a while, he might learn something. 471 00:24:07,119 --> 00:24:07,279 Speaker 7: Yeah. 472 00:24:07,319 --> 00:24:09,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, so so as hard as saying that he couldn't 473 00:24:09,599 --> 00:24:11,759 get the crowd, and I can imagine how many people. 474 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:13,759 I was thought about canceling, but I said no, it's 475 00:24:13,759 --> 00:24:16,039 a it's a history thing for me. So I wanted 476 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,519 to be there. But I said there was. The mile 477 00:24:18,599 --> 00:24:20,839 was probably it was probably almost three miles long to 478 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,039 get into the arena, and I talked to people at 479 00:24:23,039 --> 00:24:24,680 the end and they go, hey, we're being hopeful, and 480 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,480 I just started laughing because they had no idea. So 481 00:24:27,799 --> 00:24:30,000 he was wrong. I'm not having the numbers there was. 482 00:24:30,039 --> 00:24:32,440 I said, and then I've been to DC probably seven 483 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,640 eight times. I have never seen so many people there. 484 00:24:35,799 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was crazy. 485 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 4: So love the show. 486 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, thanks Dan, I appreciate the call. Yeah, well, I 487 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:47,880 mean you realize that, and I realized the point why 488 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,359 he raised that attack, which was a pivot away from 489 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:54,279 something that he couldn't defend. H So he you know, 490 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,559 deflected with this other attack. Well you know why he 491 00:24:56,599 --> 00:24:58,039 moved it. You know why he moved it, right, he 492 00:24:58,079 --> 00:25:01,559 started that line. So why would he do that? Because 493 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,680 the left believes and not they're not mistaken in this 494 00:25:07,839 --> 00:25:11,440 is that Trump is very sensitive about attacks against his 495 00:25:11,519 --> 00:25:16,799 crowd size. Right, we know this, and so so that's 496 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,279 why they keep saying stuff like that. That's why they 497 00:25:19,319 --> 00:25:21,880 make these jokes because they know it hurts him. And 498 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,400 so here's the difference. I don't care about the crowd sizes, 499 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,920 Like that doesn't matter to me. Like I can look 500 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,400 at a crowd and say, oh, it's a big crowd, 501 00:25:30,519 --> 00:25:32,680 and that's it, Like that's the extent of my thinking 502 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,920 about it. Like I don't. I mean, if I'm doing 503 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,440 an event and I want it to be a big crowd, 504 00:25:37,599 --> 00:25:39,279 then yes, I would want it to be a big crowd, 505 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,400 and I would probably get a little irked if people 506 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,640 were running around saying it's not really a big crowd. 507 00:25:45,559 --> 00:25:47,359 But I also wouldn't go out and lie about the 508 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,960 size of crowds when they're not large, right. I wouldn't 509 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,839 say that either. I would say, oh, it's a good 510 00:25:51,839 --> 00:25:54,640 sized crowd. I was happy to get it, always want more, whatever, whatever, 511 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,200 But I wouldn't lie and say it was a bigger 512 00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:59,480 crowd than it actually was. But that's the reason why 513 00:26:00,319 --> 00:26:03,920 went there. He's trying to attack Donald Trump, and he 514 00:26:04,039 --> 00:26:07,279 was trying to, I guess, get me to defend Donald 515 00:26:07,319 --> 00:26:10,160 Trump and his sensitivity about crowd sizes or something. And 516 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:15,559 so that's again, like wrong guy to make that argument against, 517 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,079 because I don't care, Like I'm just gonna look at 518 00:26:20,079 --> 00:26:21,680 the crowd size. I'm gonn look at the ticketcount. I'm 519 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,559 gonna say, Okay, you don't know what you're talking about. 520 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,720 You're just trying to make fun of Donald Trump, that's all. 521 00:26:28,839 --> 00:26:31,160 And had he, you know, had he just copped to that, 522 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,279 I guess probably it would have gone a little bit 523 00:26:33,319 --> 00:26:38,680 better for him. At Patriot Girl says Philip is nothing 524 00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,640 but a troll. Don't feed the trolls. Look, okay, I 525 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:45,079 get this line of thinking as well, that don't feed 526 00:26:45,079 --> 00:26:50,559 the trolls or anything. But I also like, do you 527 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,960 get mad at a cat when it is playing with 528 00:26:55,039 --> 00:26:57,839 a ball of yarn? Do you get angry at the 529 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,680 cat saying don't play with that ball of yarn. It's 530 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:04,680 just a ball of yarn. I'm the cat. I just 531 00:27:04,799 --> 00:27:11,480 I enjoy it. I enjoy it, and I so I 532 00:27:11,599 --> 00:27:14,599 make no apologies. All right, if you're listening to this show, 533 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,160 you know I try to keep up with all sorts 534 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,240 of current events, and I know you do too, And 535 00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:21,720 you've probably heard me say get your news from multiple sources. 536 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,519 Why Well, because it's how you detect media bias, which 537 00:27:25,519 --> 00:27:28,440 is why I've been so impressed with ground News. It's 538 00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:31,960 an app and it's a website, and it combines news 539 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,920 from around the world in one place, so you can 540 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,319 compare coverage and verify information. You can check it out 541 00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:41,960 at check dot ground, dot news slash pete. I put 542 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,960 the link in the podcast description too. 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Email is Pete at vpteclendarshow dot com. This 554 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,359 is from I think Suzanne. I can't remember that guy's 555 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,000 real name, but he's been around since before Winnable. Yeah, imaware. 556 00:28:31,279 --> 00:28:34,279 Let me go and speak with Next up here is Joe. Hello, Joe, 557 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:36,640 Welcome to the show. Joe. 558 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 7: Hey, how you doing? 559 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: But Hey, I'm good. What's up? 560 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,799 Speaker 7: Nothing much? I was just gonna say, it's like I 561 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,240 told your screener, you're given the Phila James Keith, whatever 562 00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,519 his name is. We're giving him a little bit too 563 00:28:50,599 --> 00:28:55,799 much airtime because that's probably exactly what he wants. But yeah, 564 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,920 I agree with your state statement of the mastering. Yeah, 565 00:29:00,079 --> 00:29:02,839 and that's exactly what that was. But yeah, I just 566 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:06,519 love your show and listen to you every day. 567 00:29:06,559 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: But well, thanks, Joe, No, I appreciate it. Look, and 568 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,440 I get the there is it? You know, this is 569 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,799 the same thing like do you platform somebody or not, 570 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,920 do you let them speak or not? That kind of thing. 571 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,039 And I am generally of the opinion in most cases 572 00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,839 that you let people speak and you that, you know, 573 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,519 you let them espouse their bad ideas or their dumbass 574 00:29:29,599 --> 00:29:35,319 arguments in Phillip's case, and then you dismantle those ideas. 575 00:29:35,559 --> 00:29:41,960 You beat the bad ideas with good ideas. And that's 576 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:48,440 why I give people like Philip the time to attempt 577 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,519 to make some sort of an argument. And maybe one 578 00:29:51,559 --> 00:29:53,519 day Philip will be able to do it. I mean, 579 00:29:53,559 --> 00:29:55,799 we can dream here, people like if we can dream 580 00:29:55,839 --> 00:29:58,960 of going to Mars, we can dream that Philip will 581 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:04,759 make a rational, logical, cogent, coherent argument. I mean, are 582 00:30:04,759 --> 00:30:10,240 we Americans or Americans? Come on, let me see here. 583 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,680 Next is John, Hello, John, Welcome to the show. 584 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 3: Hey, hey Pete, how are you doing? 585 00:30:14,759 --> 00:30:15,519 Speaker 1: Good man? What's up? 586 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 3: I was at the I was in DC last weekend, 587 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,400 and I can tell you those hotels were packed, even 588 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680 though a lot of the stuff was canceled with people 589 00:30:26,759 --> 00:30:29,799 were everywhere and the hotel I stayed. It was a 590 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,119 nice hotel right by the capitol. Two weeks ago A 591 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:38,920 friend one up there for the congressional swearing in. I 592 00:30:39,119 --> 00:30:43,880 paid ten times the rate he paid the exact same 593 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:49,519 room with a three night minimum, paid in advance, no cancelations, 594 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,160 and the place was packed. So you know, you know, 595 00:30:53,279 --> 00:30:56,559 Philip can pretend like there was no demand for this, 596 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,640 but it was. The hotels everywhere from an hour outside, 597 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,039 we're all sold out, and they all pretty much had 598 00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:09,799 the same, you know, quadruple or more the rates, and 599 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,319 like I said, three night minimums with no cancelations. So 600 00:31:14,599 --> 00:31:16,759 you know, people were willing to pay to go to 601 00:31:16,839 --> 00:31:19,720 this event. So you know, for them to try to 602 00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:23,319 diminish and say, oh, nobody's showing up, it's crazy. Well, 603 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,880 even after everything was canceled, the place was packed. 604 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: So to be fair, in Phillip's defense, he made a 605 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,519 lot of arguments and statements based on based out of 606 00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:37,000 pure ignorance. So why wouldn't his comment about the hotel 607 00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,920 vacancies be based in anything but ignorance as well? Like 608 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:42,440 so it was very much on brand. 609 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,119 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, we expect them to left from him when 610 00:31:46,119 --> 00:31:48,160 he does, so, I mean and you're right. It is 611 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:51,079 like a cat's smacking, you know, a ball around. It 612 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,240 is humorous. Yes, And well, the thing is he keeps 613 00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:55,200 coming back. 614 00:31:55,279 --> 00:31:58,279 Speaker 1: Right, and look there is also there's another and this 615 00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:02,200 is this is an important reason to why I bring 616 00:32:02,279 --> 00:32:04,839 why I allow people like Philip to have all the 617 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,640 time that he can muster and I can bear to 618 00:32:07,759 --> 00:32:11,440 make these dumbass arguments, is because the stuff he says 619 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:17,759 he is repeating from you know, news sources, from whatever 620 00:32:17,799 --> 00:32:21,759 TikTokers he watches or whatever, like these thoughts are not 621 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,119 his original thoughts. He is regurgitating this stuff because I 622 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,759 see it. I see it in these other you know, 623 00:32:28,839 --> 00:32:32,160 news sites or on websites and stuff. And so it's 624 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,720 important to know what your opponents are thinking and how 625 00:32:35,759 --> 00:32:39,039 they think, so you are better prepared to do battle. 626 00:32:39,559 --> 00:32:43,480 And like that's if I didn't know what the what 627 00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:46,519 the ticket counts were, right, Philip could have had his 628 00:32:46,559 --> 00:32:49,160 way with me in that discussion because I didn't know. 629 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,079 I would have just said, oh, well, I guess you're correct. 630 00:32:51,079 --> 00:32:54,240 And I bet that the way Philip presents his arguments 631 00:32:54,279 --> 00:32:56,519 in his real life to people that that don't know 632 00:32:56,559 --> 00:32:59,079 that are more ignorant about particular things than he is. 633 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,799 They'll just believe him, right, They'll just say, oh, well, 634 00:33:02,839 --> 00:33:04,839 I guess he sounds like he knows what he's talking about, 635 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,039 and he does it. 636 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,359 Speaker 3: I think Phillips gets most of his information from Facebook 637 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:15,359 memes and uses that as his basis. 638 00:33:15,519 --> 00:33:17,359 Speaker 1: Well, he's going to get exposed to a lot more 639 00:33:17,359 --> 00:33:21,960 conservative memes now, I think under the under the new regime. 640 00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:24,799 So we'll see. John. I appreciate the call. Good to 641 00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:27,160 hear from you, buddy, have a great day. Hi man, 642 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,920 you two. This is going to message here from Alan. 643 00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,519 He says, Philip is using a false name. He's the 644 00:33:33,519 --> 00:33:36,160 same clown who calls Vince all the time. His only 645 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,759 interest or hearing his own voice and listening to his 646 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:43,240 own opinions. Why he keeps walking into your intellectual buzzsaw 647 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:47,720 is so entertaining. He has no sense of self awareness. 648 00:33:49,799 --> 00:33:53,720 And then Mark says, Pete, you give all callers and 649 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,920 guests a section of rope. It is up to them 650 00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,920 to turn it into a swing or a noose. And 651 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,440 that is exactly right. And Mark, I believe is the 652 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,559 man who told me that axiom lo those many years ago, 653 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:12,280 and it is good advice. Let people talk let me 654 00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,719 hear what you have to say. Oh really, Oh that's interesting. 655 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,360 Oh you don't say, Oh, can you elaborate on that? 656 00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:22,280 What's your proof of that? What's the evidence for that claim? 657 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:26,760 As I asked Philip, And the more you talk, the 658 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:32,239 stupider and stupider the argument becomes. All right, that'll do 659 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,840 it for this episode. 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