1 00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: The DCU continues its reinvention, following up last year's Superman 2 00:00:05,559 --> 00:00:09,000 with this year's iteration of the alien from planet Krypton 3 00:00:09,439 --> 00:00:13,320 come to inspire hope on Earth. But first a quick 4 00:00:13,359 --> 00:00:20,160 detour to celebrate her birthday. It's Supergirl. I'm Ronel Young Junior, 5 00:00:20,359 --> 00:00:22,640 and I'm leaving the theater. 6 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 2: All right. This is Ronald and I am leaving the 7 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:23,879 theater after seeing Supergirl. Supergirl written by Anna Nogera, directed 8 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:31,200 by Craig Gillespie, starring Millie Alcock, Matthias Schoenarts, Eve Ridley, 9 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:37,959 David Crumbholtz, Emily Beacham, David Cornsweet, and Jason Momoa per usual. 10 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,319 For complete listing of the cast and crew, check out 11 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:43,640 the link in our show notes. It's been a while, 12 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,040 but I'm not here alone. 13 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 3: I am here with Daisy Rosario and thanks for having me, Ronald. 14 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:50,879 I'm happy to be here. 15 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 2: This is always great because every time you show up, 16 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,760 I'm like, ooh, a guest for leaving the theater impromptu. 17 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,280 I did not plan for this. This was not something 18 00:01:58,280 --> 00:02:00,120 that planned. But you walked in and I'm like, you'll 19 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:01,640 be on the show and I will be taking you home. 20 00:02:02,359 --> 00:02:04,640 Two things that I am. I am one hundred percent 21 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:06,280 good with I mean, I appreciate that. 22 00:02:06,359 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: It's a pretty sweet deal. At my end, I get 23 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,159 to say hang out with you and I get a 24 00:02:09,199 --> 00:02:11,039 ride home like you're saving me on an uber. 25 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 2: So friendship and convenience, we're doing it all here on 26 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,800 leaving the theater, all right. Supergirl is a DC Extended 27 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,280 Universe movie, or actually I think they're just calling it 28 00:02:24,319 --> 00:02:28,319 the DCU now to differentiate it from the DCEU, which 29 00:02:28,439 --> 00:02:33,360 was the original rival to the MCU, the Marvel Cinematic Universe. 30 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,759 So now this is the DCU, which was taken over 31 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:40,120 by James Gunn and has been being changed with Peacemaker, 32 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:44,039 the television show, the New Superman movie, Creature Commandos, and 33 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:47,439 now Supergirl is the latest entry in this new version 34 00:02:47,599 --> 00:02:52,680 of the DC Universe. It is a story of Carl Kara, 35 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,919 who is Clark Kent's cousin. She has a Kryptonian name. 36 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:01,599 I'm not gonna you can google it. She's the main character. 37 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,120 She's Supergirl. Okay, she's Supergirl. And we meet her when 38 00:03:06,159 --> 00:03:10,520 she is celebrating her birthday and in grief, and in 39 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:13,000 the middle of this she is interrupted to go on 40 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,400 a quest to do one particular thing or several particular 41 00:03:17,439 --> 00:03:20,599 things and stop a lot of bad people from doing things. Okay, 42 00:03:20,719 --> 00:03:23,000 that's the plot of the movie. There will be spoilers 43 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,680 here because I do not think I can talk about 44 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,680 this movie the way I want to without talking about spoilers. 45 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,960 But per usual, we'll kick it off by saying, Daisy, 46 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:32,479 what did you think of this movie? 47 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:37,639 Speaker 3: I mean, I thought it was a movie. I've used 48 00:03:37,639 --> 00:03:41,719 that line before in life, but that was I didn't 49 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:46,000 enjoy it very much. But I also didn't think that. 50 00:03:48,879 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: I love that I love that guy. 51 00:03:50,919 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: I didn't enjoy it very much, but I also felt, 52 00:03:53,639 --> 00:03:55,719 you know, sometimes I just think something is like really bad, 53 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:57,960 and this one I really was like, is this just 54 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,240 not hitting with me? Like I could see other people 55 00:04:00,319 --> 00:04:02,680 digging this a lot more than me, which is not 56 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:05,639 always true, Like sometimes I know that, like financially, it'll 57 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,599 still do well. But there were aspects of it that 58 00:04:08,639 --> 00:04:10,719 I could see other people finding really engaging. There were 59 00:04:10,759 --> 00:04:12,840 just a lot of things that I found really distracting 60 00:04:12,879 --> 00:04:15,400 about it, and the ways that they were distracting was 61 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,279 we're consistent enough throughout that then I like couldn't get 62 00:04:19,319 --> 00:04:23,360 my mind off of those things, the biggest two being 63 00:04:23,399 --> 00:04:26,319 that I couldn't stop thinking of both Guardians of the 64 00:04:26,319 --> 00:04:28,800 Galaxy but also the. 65 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: Mad Max movies. 66 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,319 Speaker 3: And I thought about that early and then it was 67 00:04:32,399 --> 00:04:34,879 like they kept trying to prove it to me, and 68 00:04:34,959 --> 00:04:37,920 that is a weird thing, you know, like like so 69 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,360 it was just hard for me to ignore that. I 70 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,439 think if you're not noticing all those details, I think 71 00:04:42,439 --> 00:04:44,600 you might get swept up into the actual story and 72 00:04:44,639 --> 00:04:47,399 the characters a little bit more. Because the core idea 73 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:52,399 itself isn't a bad idea, but I it just didn't 74 00:04:52,439 --> 00:04:55,360 do anything for me. At the end of it, I 75 00:04:55,399 --> 00:04:59,600 was like, Yep, you made a movie, and good for you. 76 00:05:00,439 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 2: Okay, so I will be your foil. When you just 77 00:05:04,439 --> 00:05:08,120 said if you weren't distracted by the Mad Max and 78 00:05:08,199 --> 00:05:11,399 the Guardians of the Galaxy of it all, I wasn't. 79 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:13,560 A Guardians of Galaxy came up and it was a 80 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:15,720 way and it didn't distract me. And I can tell 81 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,160 you that at the core, I still didn't like this movie. 82 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:25,360 So so as far as I'm concerned, I know someone 83 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:27,560 in there liked this movie. At the end of the movie, 84 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:30,519 there was at least twelve people that burst into applause, 85 00:05:30,639 --> 00:05:33,160 but they were actually very stubborn with their applause because 86 00:05:33,319 --> 00:05:36,160 nobody joined in. And it was one of those things 87 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,319 where you heard the twelve people deciding that this is 88 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,040 gonna be a good movie and they're gonna clap for it. 89 00:05:40,639 --> 00:05:43,920 But I'm pretty sure that most people left this movie 90 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,639 thinking feeling very lukewarm about it. Now I felt lukewarm 91 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:49,759 up about this movie up to a certain point. We 92 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:51,600 will get into that point in one minute. It is 93 00:05:51,639 --> 00:05:54,319 when I turned to you and said, Daisy, because after that, 94 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,839 I wanted to go run through the film and rip 95 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360 down the whole thing and say this is garbage, this 96 00:05:59,519 --> 00:06:00,920 was bad, and I hate it. We'll get to that 97 00:06:00,959 --> 00:06:03,040 in a second. I don't want to because I that 98 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,839 is gonna be a long extended rant that I go on. 99 00:06:07,199 --> 00:06:08,959 But let's just talk about some of the elements. I 100 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,360 agree with you that it is reminiscent of other things, 101 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,839 but I think the plot was just it was so basic, 102 00:06:15,560 --> 00:06:18,680 and I think at first glance you could say, well, 103 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,480 good idea, you're not going to give us too much 104 00:06:20,519 --> 00:06:23,519 of the origin. We're jumping right into the action. But 105 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,240 then for me, I'm like, well, there's not really enough 106 00:06:26,319 --> 00:06:28,600 action for us to say that we really jumped into it. 107 00:06:29,199 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 3: That's a good point. Yeah, I mean yeah, I just 108 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,040 when you're saying like the bad writing, like why were 109 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,680 there times where I knew the line that was about 110 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,480 to be said before it was said, right, Like I 111 00:06:40,519 --> 00:06:42,319 almost said one out loud and I would have been 112 00:06:42,319 --> 00:06:45,600 one hundred percent right. I also think the clapping thing, 113 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,519 just to go back to that for a moment is funny, 114 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:51,319 only because this is obviously not something everyone will experience, 115 00:06:51,319 --> 00:06:52,920 even if they see this movie, but because we were 116 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,439 at a press screening, they like gave away like one 117 00:06:55,439 --> 00:06:58,360 of the buckets before the movie, and like Ronald was 118 00:06:58,439 --> 00:07:01,160 laughing at me because I started and You're like, why 119 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,079 are we clapping? And I was like I'm a clapper 120 00:07:03,399 --> 00:07:07,040 and I was like, I clapping for this likely. 121 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: I love that is a good callback because I just 122 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,120 realized you just said that. You explained that to me, 123 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,000 like I clap easily, and sure enough there's clapping, and 124 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:15,879 you did not join it. 125 00:07:15,959 --> 00:07:17,279 Speaker 3: I did not join it. And I was like, thank 126 00:07:17,319 --> 00:07:19,160 you for passing me in my bag. I will see 127 00:07:19,199 --> 00:07:22,800 you in the hall. It's like what I did. Yeah, 128 00:07:22,879 --> 00:07:25,759 I mean, I guess it's like, I mean, I appreciate 129 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,079 hearing that you just didn't like it either way, because 130 00:07:28,120 --> 00:07:30,279 like I said, like I knew that I was being 131 00:07:30,279 --> 00:07:32,560 distracted by certain things, and so I just really couldn't 132 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:36,959 tell where my feelings were necessarily coming from. And I 133 00:07:36,959 --> 00:07:39,040 try to be honest about that when I feel that right, Like, 134 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,120 sometimes there are times I don't like something on the 135 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:44,040 first viewing because maybe I came on with two big 136 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,040 of expectations or I am distracted by something else, and 137 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:48,560 then I go back and I'm like, oh, man, like 138 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:51,079 I missed like the heart of this thing. I don't 139 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,199 think that's gonna happen with this. I would find it 140 00:07:53,279 --> 00:07:55,199 very hard to even think that I would watch it again. 141 00:07:55,279 --> 00:07:57,680 Like if I came home and my wife was watching it, 142 00:07:58,000 --> 00:08:00,399 say on HBO Max as it will eventually be on 143 00:08:00,519 --> 00:08:02,920 because she hadn't seen it yet, I'll probably be like, 144 00:08:02,959 --> 00:08:05,040 I will be in the other room until you are done, 145 00:08:05,079 --> 00:08:08,879 Like it just wasn't that compelling. There's a bunch of reasons. 146 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,319 I do always think that at the core, like it 147 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:15,000 always starts with a not good script. I really do 148 00:08:15,079 --> 00:08:17,920 think that that's generally pretty true. I think that there 149 00:08:17,959 --> 00:08:20,839 are ways that you can also make a not good 150 00:08:20,879 --> 00:08:23,360 script work more, and this movie just did not have 151 00:08:23,519 --> 00:08:26,600 enough of those elements. There is one genuine laugh in 152 00:08:26,639 --> 00:08:29,680 this movie. It didn't make me laugh, but it made 153 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,080 the audience laugh in a way that was so noticeable 154 00:08:32,399 --> 00:08:35,519 because of how quiet it had been throughout watching the 155 00:08:35,519 --> 00:08:37,159 movie to that point. And I want to say that 156 00:08:37,279 --> 00:08:40,720 was either like halfway or even maybe two thirds into 157 00:08:40,759 --> 00:08:43,159 the movie, So I mean that's a long way through. 158 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:49,799 But ultimately I think I really just felt like like 159 00:08:50,159 --> 00:08:53,919 I wanted to be rooting for Millie Alcock more, but 160 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,679 I just didn't think she had enough charisma to save 161 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:01,519 a script that's this not strong if you will, Whereas, 162 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,960 like I was, I kept thinking to myself, like, like 163 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:07,639 Emma Stone's too old now for something like this, But 164 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:09,600 if you had like a young Amastone like in her, 165 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,480 like easy a Era had been in this movie, it 166 00:09:12,480 --> 00:09:15,440 would have easily been a better movie just by like 167 00:09:15,799 --> 00:09:19,759 the gravitational pull of her talent. Right, And that's not 168 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,080 to say that like Millie Alcock's not talented, but like 169 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:28,440 there's that there's that little extra something where it really 170 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,600 pulls in, Like I actually found it really noticeable when 171 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,200 David Crumholtz showed up because I was like, that man 172 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:35,120 is acting and I don't mean that in a bad way. 173 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 2: Which one's David David Crunholtz. 174 00:09:36,879 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 3: He's the character of the Supergirl's father. 175 00:09:39,799 --> 00:09:42,879 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, yes, I love him. Yeah, And I 176 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:45,519 when he showed up, I remember thinking, oh, I'm glad 177 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,679 he's in this film. But that happened several times. That 178 00:09:47,759 --> 00:09:50,039 also happened for me with Jason Momoa. It happened to 179 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:52,480 me with David korn Sweet where I'm just like, I know, 180 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,799 I want to be watching the Supergirl movie. I want 181 00:09:54,799 --> 00:09:57,159 to be watching this, But David Kortzwet showed up and 182 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,320 I'm like, what is he up to? Can we? I 183 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:00,879 would love to see when he's the way? And again 184 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:03,600 Jason Momoa shows up, and actually, I think the thing 185 00:10:03,639 --> 00:10:06,399 that Millie Alcock is lacking in this is that she's 186 00:10:06,399 --> 00:10:09,039 not actually funny. Yeah, And I don't mean that in 187 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:13,120 like in the Misogynist women aren't funny way. I mean 188 00:10:13,159 --> 00:10:16,000 that comedy is not her bag. And I felt it 189 00:10:16,039 --> 00:10:18,879 in this where I felt like she was acting like 190 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,240 this instead of actually leaning into there's an ease that 191 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,360 that Emma Stone would have brought to this in terms 192 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,399 of being funny. And there was several ways in which 193 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,919 I was watching this as saying, you're acting the role, 194 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:34,080 but you're not getting why this is hilarious. 195 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 3: You know, yeah, like yeah, that's the thing like comedy 196 00:10:37,399 --> 00:10:40,200 or that kind of like ease does come more naturally 197 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:42,759 to some performers. And again, like we know that Emstone 198 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,840 is like well not only well beyond this material, but 199 00:10:44,879 --> 00:10:46,960 like in an age perspective, it doesn't make sense, but 200 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,159 really just trying to think of somebody who kind of 201 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,480 gave off that energy of like being able to carry 202 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:55,759 something like this when they were young or when they 203 00:10:55,759 --> 00:10:57,559 were more in the age group of like that's somebody 204 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:00,360 that would play this version of Supergirl. Like that was 205 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,120 just kind of the best example I could come up with. 206 00:11:02,159 --> 00:11:04,440 But you know, I think you get what I mean 207 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,519 because it it it. Yeah, And I will say they're 208 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,600 not doing her any favors because a significant portion of 209 00:11:10,639 --> 00:11:12,960 the beginning of the movie she's like wasted, which is 210 00:11:13,039 --> 00:11:17,960 one of the hardest things to act, like genuinely actors themselves, 211 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,720 like go watch old episodes of like inside the Actor's Studio, 212 00:11:21,039 --> 00:11:25,159 Like playing wasted is actually super hard and that's how 213 00:11:25,159 --> 00:11:28,559 they start establishing the entire character. So you're already like 214 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,960 putting her at a deficit, and then it doesn't feel 215 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:34,600 like she has a particular aptitude for that kind of thing. 216 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,399 Speaker 2: It just felt. 217 00:11:35,159 --> 00:11:38,639 Speaker 3: Like like I don't know, like I think it was 218 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:40,320 like it was one of those things where I was 219 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,440 really like a couple of dudes were like very attracted 220 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,519 to her in a way that they could not see 221 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:49,600 the way that everyone else would see this, right, And 222 00:11:49,639 --> 00:11:51,840 I say that being married to a woman, Like I 223 00:11:51,919 --> 00:11:54,600 was like, it's not like I'm not attracted to women. 224 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,759 Speaker 2: I was just like attracted to women. Okay, so we 225 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,720 would know enough, but it. 226 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,759 Speaker 3: Was not enough to save it. Like yeah, you know, 227 00:12:03,879 --> 00:12:06,559 like I and I mean I didn't watch House with 228 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:07,080 the Dragon. 229 00:12:07,159 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 2: I don't really. 230 00:12:07,879 --> 00:12:10,919 Speaker 3: I'm only aware of her from you know, knowing like 231 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,639 following pop culture and covering culture and knowing that she's 232 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:15,759 out there as an you know, and I thought she 233 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,320 had the look for it, you know, like in the 234 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,720 promotional materials. But then yeah, like just it wasn't quite 235 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,200 there in terms of like really pulling you in that way. 236 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:28,840 I mean, Jason Momo is really fun. So the moments 237 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,519 when he's on are definitely better, but he's more vibes 238 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,000 than like actor. So even then it was kind of like, 239 00:12:35,039 --> 00:12:36,759 all right, well, if you could have at least had 240 00:12:36,799 --> 00:12:40,399 somebody that had, you know, that level of charm, because 241 00:12:40,399 --> 00:12:43,440 he has a lot of charm, right, I think that 242 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,519 would have gone a long way to just making this 243 00:12:45,519 --> 00:12:47,639 more enjoyable. And then there were just a lot of 244 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,039 choices that I found odd and kind of flat. There's 245 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,360 like a lot of the music was weird to me 246 00:12:53,519 --> 00:12:57,159 in a way that again was distracting. This is one 247 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:58,840 of the reasons that I can't help but compare it 248 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,399 to Guardians is because the a lot of like contemporary 249 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,840 like twentieth century and twenty first century music, and but 250 00:13:06,919 --> 00:13:10,440 in Guardians, right, and this movie is not and this 251 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,679 movie is not directed by James Gunn, but it is 252 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,559 from James Gunn's new DCU that he's like overseeing, right. 253 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:20,559 So it was very it felt very as if they 254 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,279 had like gone through and been like, these are the 255 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,559 things that worked about that that we should use in 256 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:29,000 this not as poorly as like the first Suicide Squad 257 00:13:29,039 --> 00:13:32,120 movie that was really just trying to like paint by numbers. 258 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,240 A version of this but like failed miserably. That is, 259 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,679 by the way, the only movie I've ever fallen asleep 260 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,360 in the theater for was the first Suicide Squad movie, 261 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,679 which is hilarious. Sorry, it was so loud and somehow 262 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:48,759 I still fell asleep. But like you know, in in 263 00:13:48,759 --> 00:13:50,600 that original Guardians movie, and I think it was a 264 00:13:50,639 --> 00:13:52,960 really smart choice, Like and if you listen to James 265 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,480 Gunna talk about it, he's talked about like, Hey, I'm 266 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:56,320 gonna put you in this bizarre world where there's all 267 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,039 these other things. I need to give you some grounding. 268 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,399 I need to give you something familiar. And there's also 269 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,840 a justification for why the music is that way. You 270 00:14:03,879 --> 00:14:06,960 know that has to do with Star Lord's you know, 271 00:14:07,039 --> 00:14:10,559 cassette tape, etc. This was like pulling from all kinds 272 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,519 of things, Like there's a fight scene in a bar, 273 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,279 but in the bar which is also like a lounge 274 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,879 there aliens are singing like a version of Girl from 275 00:14:18,919 --> 00:14:21,559 Epanima that you could hear in a jazz bar here. 276 00:14:21,679 --> 00:14:24,320 Like it Like the way that those choices were deployed 277 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,840 felt really distracting and odd and didn't necessarily feel like 278 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,480 they were making choices to kind of change it. As 279 00:14:31,519 --> 00:14:33,399 much as they were like this will work, you know, 280 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:35,399 like it felt very I know this is a thing 281 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,159 people say now, but it felt like, you know, like 282 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:39,799 AI had come up with the ideas. 283 00:14:40,799 --> 00:14:44,759 Speaker 2: I agree with everything you said. I really don't. I mean, 284 00:14:44,919 --> 00:14:47,559 I think that this is a film, that it exists, 285 00:14:47,679 --> 00:14:50,600 it's a film, and I think that it would have 286 00:14:50,639 --> 00:14:53,039 been fine. I would have walked out of this probably 287 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,879 saying this movie would have been fine if not for 288 00:14:56,159 --> 00:14:59,000 what I'm about to describe happened. Happened in the middle 289 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,000 of the film. So, first of all, the people that 290 00:15:02,039 --> 00:15:05,159 she's up against are really bad people in that they 291 00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:10,759 are kidnapping little girls or teenage girls, and they are 292 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:15,559 sex traffic killingdom I'll just say that they are sex 293 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,320 trafficking them, which is and when you think about what 294 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,720 that means, which I'm sorry to put this on anyone's minds, 295 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,919 then it means that these people are very, very, very bad. 296 00:15:26,039 --> 00:15:31,519 That's one. Given the opportunity to kill one of these 297 00:15:31,559 --> 00:15:36,200 guys and or stop them, you should do it. Because 298 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,720 in this film, one of the characters tries to kill 299 00:15:39,759 --> 00:15:45,039 the lead person, is stopped by Supergirl, and minutes later 300 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:50,960 he slaughters an entire black family, the basically among the 301 00:15:51,039 --> 00:15:54,360 few black people in this film, kills them so we 302 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,240 could see it in front of us. And then when 303 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,279 a conversation has had that says you just that family killed, 304 00:16:01,639 --> 00:16:05,200 Supergirl responds and says, I can't let this happen to you. 305 00:16:05,279 --> 00:16:07,519 I can't let you kill that man. It'll ruin you. 306 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:12,440 But the sacrifice of these black people was worth it. 307 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,559 And then she had the audacity to say, I gotta 308 00:16:15,559 --> 00:16:18,919 go get my dog, way too close to the fact 309 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:23,120 that this entire black family is slaughtered in the streets. 310 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:27,559 After that, I said, if this movie, if everyone who 311 00:16:27,639 --> 00:16:30,679 wrote this and if anyone who watched this and didn't say, mmm, 312 00:16:31,159 --> 00:16:33,399 we gotta cut that, that's not gonna work. Let him 313 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,000 just get away, and then she can, like she he 314 00:16:36,039 --> 00:16:38,559 can swing the sword and then the family could scurry off, 315 00:16:38,559 --> 00:16:40,440 because if we're not gonna see the family anymore in 316 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,840 the film, if they're gone, we're not gonna see them, 317 00:16:42,879 --> 00:16:45,120 then it doesn't matter if they're dead or if they're 318 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:47,679 just gone. But to kill them in front of us, 319 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:50,240 to me feels like they're just being like and then 320 00:16:50,559 --> 00:16:54,480 they're not even remembered. At some point, there's several people 321 00:16:54,559 --> 00:16:58,200 in this movie whose entire families are dead. This one 322 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:00,480 could have been prevented, and we don't. I don't even 323 00:17:00,720 --> 00:17:03,759 take a moment to remember them at all. They're just gone. 324 00:17:04,039 --> 00:17:06,720 And I said, Daisy, because Daisy, I almost stood up 325 00:17:06,759 --> 00:17:09,720 to be like boo, but what are we doing? Are 326 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,119 we not gonna protest this movie? It's twenty twenty six. 327 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,039 I don't want to see this in my in my 328 00:17:14,279 --> 00:17:18,519 DC Animated you, my DC Universe movies. I don't want 329 00:17:18,559 --> 00:17:21,000 to see this in there. And I, oh, my god, 330 00:17:21,599 --> 00:17:25,079 if this would have been a normal, regular bad movie. 331 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,720 And because of that, it went down a full star 332 00:17:27,799 --> 00:17:29,480 for me, which I'll say by rating it a second, 333 00:17:29,519 --> 00:17:31,599 but it went down a full star for me because 334 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:31,960 of that. 335 00:17:32,279 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I mean that's real. And it to be 336 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,119 very clear, like Ronald literally just like I could feel 337 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,519 through your head turn and then out loud he just 338 00:17:39,559 --> 00:17:43,519 with Daisy, and I just looked like I know, I know, 339 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,799 I just don't even I know, like I it was. 340 00:17:48,799 --> 00:17:50,880 That was egregious. And again it is the kind of 341 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:54,079 thing where I'm like, not's a bargain by any means, right, 342 00:17:54,079 --> 00:17:55,799 But like if I'm just thinking of the choreography of 343 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:57,920 the moment, I would have accepted one of them dying 344 00:17:58,519 --> 00:18:01,400 based on just like the physical of what was happening, 345 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,519 But then it felt gratuitous in the moment as well 346 00:18:04,519 --> 00:18:08,720 of being like but also and also like it was 347 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:13,599 brutal in a movie that is like brutal but also 348 00:18:13,759 --> 00:18:17,640 not actually that much. Right, Like even the inciting incident 349 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,519 in the movie itself is like, it is weird. This 350 00:18:21,759 --> 00:18:25,559 the way that it's all set up is weird. Just 351 00:18:25,599 --> 00:18:28,119 the vibes of it are not good from jump and 352 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:31,839 then again to go back to the sex trafficking part 353 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:34,319 of it, right, they're literally a sex trafficking is like 354 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,480 these girls are the brides, which again, like we are 355 00:18:36,519 --> 00:18:39,480 well into the movie by the time this specifically comes up, 356 00:18:39,519 --> 00:18:41,799 and again I have already been thinking about Mad Max 357 00:18:41,839 --> 00:18:44,880 and now you're throwing me like a fury road some 358 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:48,480 you know theme of like these girls who are being 359 00:18:48,599 --> 00:18:53,319 held captive. But like it just was too much. I 360 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,440 found it just visually distracting. Like the CGI doesn't look great. 361 00:18:57,519 --> 00:19:00,680 It's not terrible, you know, it's not like it's not 362 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:02,680 like the worst that you've ever seen, but it has 363 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,519 I can't even you liked that more than I did. 364 00:19:06,559 --> 00:19:13,200 I remember, Yes, that is my legacy, getting people to 365 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:17,519 hate things the right way. It just was like, yeah, visually, 366 00:19:17,519 --> 00:19:20,440 it just was a little like smudgie. It wasn't as 367 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:23,720 crazy as Quantumania were, like Corey Stoul's face is like 368 00:19:23,839 --> 00:19:26,200 stretched out, but it was just about like kind of smudgie. 369 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:28,920 And then again it's like because of the settings of it, 370 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,599 it was it was a lot of that stuff where 371 00:19:30,599 --> 00:19:33,119 you know what, I kept thinking, You're telling me that 372 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:38,000 we have this whole universe, not even galaxy, the universe. 373 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:40,720 Galaxy is the whole bit of it, all of that, 374 00:19:40,839 --> 00:19:43,720 and yet we keep running up to these same familiar 375 00:19:43,759 --> 00:19:47,799 tropes delivered in the same familiar ways right Like again 376 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,759 like in Guardians, not just the original movie, but in 377 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,559 their trilogy, and also like the specials that they've done. 378 00:19:54,759 --> 00:19:57,839 There is a location called Nowhere. Now, it's not that 379 00:19:57,960 --> 00:20:00,960 this has is exactly the same, but it spends enough 380 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:04,079 time in locations that look similar that again, like, I 381 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,359 couldn't stop thinking about that because I already know that 382 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,279 I'm gonna go into this movie and probably think about 383 00:20:09,319 --> 00:20:12,319 things that might feel James Gunny and about it. 384 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,279 Speaker 2: Right. The dog is a. 385 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: Huge part of the movie and a huge part of 386 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:19,559 the motivation. I don't mind that inherently, but obviously that 387 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:22,039 is something that James Gunn likes to do. And again 388 00:20:22,079 --> 00:20:26,079 he didn't write or direct this movie, but you can't 389 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,960 help but like notice that and again draw those comparisons, 390 00:20:29,079 --> 00:20:31,960 especially because we did first meet this version of Crypto 391 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,599 in the Superman that he did direct and that he 392 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,559 did write. You know, so it just felt very like 393 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,519 you're reminding me of better movies, like you are reminding 394 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:45,880 me of better movies while not delivering. And then the 395 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:49,680 styling of the guys, like straight up, if any of 396 00:20:49,759 --> 00:20:54,039 the guys that Milli Alcock's character and the girl that 397 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:56,160 she was helping out were after, if any of them 398 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,759 had just been like, my name is Taser Face, I 399 00:20:57,759 --> 00:21:00,839 would have been like that tracks that tracks Like That's 400 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,559 just how it felt like. They weren't ravagers, but they 401 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,480 looked like those characters, just with different outfits, outfits that 402 00:21:07,519 --> 00:21:10,119 one might say, we're a little bit more mad Max. 403 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,279 Speaker 2: Like. 404 00:21:10,319 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: It just really felt like they took those two things 405 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,920 together and tried to smash them together, and all they 406 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,200 got out of that were like aesthetics but not actually 407 00:21:19,319 --> 00:21:21,160 like thoughtful thematic. 408 00:21:20,759 --> 00:21:25,599 Speaker 2: Elements Honestly, that's well said, and that the Ravager's point. 409 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:29,160 I take it completely to heart. That's one hundred accurate. 410 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,160 If the Ravagers met mad Max, that's who these baddies 411 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,400 would be. With all of that being said, here at 412 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,440 leaving the theater, we rate movies out of five stars. 413 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:40,240 You have not been here in a while, you could 414 00:21:40,279 --> 00:21:44,799 go Decimo's all of that. That's fine. One is just garbage, 415 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,920 Five is basically perfect satisfying. Three means I would watch 416 00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,599 it again. Four is typically where most of the good 417 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:54,759 movies land around there, and two is just where most 418 00:21:54,799 --> 00:21:57,279 of the bad movies land right around there. Out of 419 00:21:57,319 --> 00:22:02,119 five stars, Daisy was saw, yeah, what do you give 420 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:02,640 this film? 421 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,599 Speaker 3: I'm gonna take the decimalst to heart. I'm gonna give 422 00:22:06,599 --> 00:22:11,200 this like a one point six five, like it is 423 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,359 a movie, and the only reason it even because like 424 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:15,880 now as we're talking about it, it's like making me 425 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,920 more mad. I mean, like I said, when I started 426 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,319 this conversation, I was like, maybe other people would like 427 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:21,920 this more, and now I'm like nope. 428 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 2: I will say, like I am. 429 00:22:24,039 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 3: In my mid forties, I've got ADHD, I'm in perimenopause 430 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:28,920 and everything I've said about this movie is the most 431 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,079 coherent string of thoughts that I've been able to put 432 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:34,400 together in possibly two years. So what is that about? 433 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,960 But yeah, i'd say like because I don't want to 434 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,839 watch it again, Like I said, I'd probably stay in 435 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,079 the kitchen and be like, I'm gonna get started on prep. 436 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:43,160 If I came home and my on like dinner prep. 437 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,640 If I came home and my wife was watching it, 438 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:48,559 It's not a one because a one for me would 439 00:22:48,599 --> 00:22:50,720 have to like literally have like a scene missing, Like 440 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:52,640 you'd have to be like what happened? Like what is 441 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:53,079 going on? 442 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 2: But I just don't it. 443 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 3: Just yeah, I dislike it even more now than when 444 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:01,799 I was it now that we've actually like taken some 445 00:23:01,839 --> 00:23:03,440 time to process. So I'm gonna give it a one 446 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:04,079 point six'. 447 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 2: Five. H i'm definitely gonna have more to say to 448 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:09,279 you after we cut the mics, off But i'm going 449 00:23:09,319 --> 00:23:13,000 to say, THIS i think a one point sixty five 450 00:23:13,079 --> 00:23:15,279 is a fair. Rating i'm going to give it a 451 00:23:15,319 --> 00:23:19,960 two BECAUSE i did Like Jason, MOMOA i did Like David. 452 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,960 KORNSWEET i did like When Millie alcock was unleashed and 453 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:27,920 actually destroying things and doing that and Being. SUPERGIRL i 454 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,359 don't think that this was the plot for her to be. 455 00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,960 IN i don't like this as an introduction to her. 456 00:23:33,039 --> 00:23:35,279 CHARACTER i do not think she went on the journey 457 00:23:35,279 --> 00:23:37,799 that the movie thinks that she went. On towards the, 458 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,359 end there are emotional beats that do not land because 459 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:44,680 the work was not done in the. Script and most of, 460 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,640 all above, all IF i could just be, honest y'all 461 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:51,359 killed The black family out of nowhere for no, reason 462 00:23:51,559 --> 00:23:53,839 and it hurt my. FEELINGS i did not like. IT 463 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,200 i do not have. TO i do not like WHEN 464 00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,839 i have to see that in fictional movies and. Films if, 465 00:24:00,279 --> 00:24:03,079 Wrong and it also feels like it meant nothing to 466 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,759 the folks who actually did. It so, yeah to, me 467 00:24:06,839 --> 00:24:10,279 it's a two of five star. Movie and with That 468 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:14,839 leaving The, theater it's a production Of Owen's Big Rod. 469 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,599 STUDIOS i mixed this episode And i'm working very hard this. 470 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,880 Week you should have noticed that two episodes Of leaving 471 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:27,160 The theater came out last, week which was it Was 472 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,640 Toy story five and it was scary. Movie this week 473 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,119 we Have. Supergirl there's ALSO i Missed Disclosure day that's 474 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,000 gonna come out this. Week we've got a lot of 475 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:40,240 movies coming, out a lot of movies coming out in 476 00:24:40,279 --> 00:24:42,279 a very short, time which means a lot of episodes 477 00:24:42,319 --> 00:24:45,039 coming out in a very short. Time i'm very excited 478 00:24:45,079 --> 00:24:48,079 to do them. All i'm also working on an entirely 479 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,480 other new podcast Which i'm very excited. About i'm going 480 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,279 to be announcing. Soon patreon people will be the first 481 00:24:54,319 --> 00:24:57,680 to know everything that is going. ON i am working 482 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,160 very very. Hard and for folks who have looked at 483 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,119 The patriot and, said, oh there hasn't been anything new 484 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,720 in a little, while that's Because i'm working very, hard 485 00:25:05,759 --> 00:25:07,480 and a bunch of new stuff is all going to 486 00:25:07,519 --> 00:25:11,400 be put out there in a very short. Succession so 487 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960 what does that. Mean it means That i'm putting in 488 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,680 a lot of. Labor it's a labor of, love but 489 00:25:16,759 --> 00:25:19,400 it is still. 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Soon thanks for listening and thanks 501 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,319 for being on the. 502 00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:55,799 Speaker 3: Show thanks for having. Me why was the main villain 503 00:25:55,799 --> 00:25:57,960 always eating like he Was Brad pitt And oceans lemon 504 00:26:00,279 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 2: H i'm Rodel Young junior And i'm being funny