Speaker 1: And yet I ask you, it's not an alien force
Speaker 1: already among the ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the show.
Speaker 1: Got a good one in store for you. Joining me
Speaker 1: is the host of Operation GCD podcast, JJ Vance JJ.
Speaker 2: How are you doing, Jim. Great to see sir, JJ Vancier,
Speaker 2: host of Operation GCD and not the Vice President. Great
Speaker 2: to join you again. Another conversation of ancient America and
Speaker 2: the propagandized narratives which we live under today that cause
Speaker 2: folks to find these narratives we discussed some folks to
Speaker 2: be kind of fanciful.
Speaker 1: I'm fictional, yes, and we are talking just now before
Speaker 1: record that this notion of the Templars, some people think
Speaker 1: that this as mythology, right. I think that people think
Speaker 1: about this in a similar way as they do King
Speaker 1: Arthur or some of those tales.
Speaker 2: Right, Hey, that's you're right on, sir, You're right on.
Speaker 1: But King Arthur think was a real guy. But people
Speaker 1: don't see it that way. They think about Merlin, right,
Speaker 1: Merlin was actually a real wizard character as well, but
Speaker 1: he's thought of as mythological. I see the same thing
Speaker 1: happening with the Templars. Anytime you bring that up. It's
Speaker 1: like people switching to all that's fancy full.
Speaker 2: Mode, right, sure, sure, sure, Well, if I can provide
Speaker 2: you a couple of statements there on King Arthur, and
Speaker 2: I can do a couple of quick plugs for Operation GCD,
Speaker 2: Folks can check out a lot of these ancient American
Speaker 2: tales of my thoughts on such the Secret Society, the
Speaker 2: start of America and the Mounds which they venerated, the
Speaker 2: Society of Cincinnati and the Mounds being the ancient architecture
Speaker 2: of America, which is all wrapped up both of those
Speaker 2: matters in the templar and the ancient history of America.
Speaker 2: So I'm doing my Unibomber look tonight, so folks can
Speaker 2: check out Operation GCD Sundays do a Patreon preview. A
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago, I like to tell my my
Speaker 2: Operation GC details my adventures and being a garbage can dude,
Speaker 2: And a couple of weeks back, I told the tale
Speaker 2: of my interactions with a unibomber, well sort of. So
Speaker 2: I was a groomsman in the hometown of the Unibomber, Lincoln, Montana.
Speaker 2: And you know back then, you know, over the last
Speaker 2: twenty five years, you know, obviously, they provided a note
Speaker 2: to my mind that the Unibomber was not that bad
Speaker 2: of a guy, and I was like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: this is back in nineteen ninety nine, so this is
Speaker 2: right after the events of the Unibomber. So you know,
Speaker 2: over time, I've kind of adapted those thoughts. But I
Speaker 2: try to apply a lot of those kind of thoughts
Speaker 2: across the spectrum of activities, including history. We are propagandais,
Speaker 2: whether it's the Unibomber or American history, then you know,
Speaker 2: across the spectrum. And I also do a lot of
Speaker 2: talking about Satanic murder and stuff, Satanic painting. That's another
Speaker 2: propagandized nature we live under today here in America, still
Speaker 2: ongoing and present, and I do that in my Operation
Speaker 2: GCD Thursdays. I do a Patreon preview there as well.
Speaker 2: But I really started Operation GCD back in May twenty
Speaker 2: sixteen to talk about the society of Cincinnati, the Mounds,
Speaker 2: the ancient architecture of America, and the Knights Templar Bam.
Speaker 2: That's it, and that's where we're at tonight.
Speaker 1: That's where that's it. That's the segue, because I got
Speaker 1: a little a couple of things I want to show
Speaker 1: you real quick here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and if I can add one real note quick
Speaker 2: notes there on the King Arthur tail, we do see
Speaker 2: King Arthur at a suspicious time. That tale comes back
Speaker 2: to Europe at the same time the Knights come back
Speaker 2: from the Crusades. And if you take the assalient characteristics
Speaker 2: of that tale, meaning that King Arthur in his twelve
Speaker 2: Knights of the Roundtable like Jesus and his twelve Apostles,
Speaker 2: and then you apply that same standards, the knights are
Speaker 2: telling their story of their Jesus and Mary bringing it
Speaker 2: back and putting it in contemporary fictional tales in Europe.
Speaker 2: And you see that possibly exhibited also by the fact
Speaker 2: that you see the same character during the same things,
Speaker 2: again the salient characteristics, and not I almost said Nathaniel
Speaker 2: bar Jonah, but that was that serial killer that may
Speaker 2: have fed me a human meat burger in Montana. Different
Speaker 2: tale and operations CCD Sundays Uh Joseph Barmathea and Joseph Arimathea.
Speaker 2: So there you have Joseph Barmathea of the Gospel Jesus tales,
Speaker 2: and then you have the Joseph Barmathea of the of
Speaker 2: the King Arthur Tale, and I would say they're doing
Speaker 2: the same things. They have the same name. So that's
Speaker 2: the writers of that story who are passing upon their
Speaker 2: their history, their knights Templar because they think they're descent.
Speaker 2: Their viewpoint is they're descended from the blood lines of
Speaker 2: Jesus and Maria. That's their king and their queen. Those
Speaker 2: are their royal blood lines. And when we look at
Speaker 2: the Templars, we see that exhibited also within the struggles
Speaker 2: of the Magna Carta, the royal bloodlines. We see that
Speaker 2: in the Society of the Cincinnati. It's not just the
Speaker 2: Huguenots and the Jacobites, the Protestant bloodlines, and notably that
Speaker 2: the royal ones. Within that comprise these organizations that descend
Speaker 2: from the Templar. It's also the Swedish, the Germanic, right,
Speaker 2: there's the Norwegians, right, So there's these all comprise of
Speaker 2: the Society of Cincinnatis too. We have all of these
Speaker 2: people represented, yeah, from these different heritages.
Speaker 1: And the way I see it, when I started looking
Speaker 1: into the Society of Cincinnati, who it's it's it's as
Speaker 1: if they founded the group first, because I think they
Speaker 1: knew they were going to found the country, but they
Speaker 1: they wanted to create and establish this clique first before
Speaker 1: they created the country, so that the clip could sort
Speaker 1: of run things right. And in my mind, that's partly
Speaker 1: what's going on with Society Cincinnati. It's Washington starts this
Speaker 1: group so then they can start the country. It goes
Speaker 1: back to New Atlantis, it goes back to you know,
Speaker 1: Francis Bacon, New Atlanta's and some things No Stradamus wrote
Speaker 1: about and et cetera. But all these guys were initiates,
Speaker 1: Washington included. So I think that the Templars came first.
Speaker 1: Washington was among them, and a lot of these other
Speaker 1: fellows who started the Society of Cincinnati alongside Washington were
Speaker 1: also Templars. This is some of the things I'm starting
Speaker 1: to see here. It's that, uh, the country. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: make a bold kind of maybe a bold statement here,
Speaker 1: but this is what I'm seeing. So I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: put it out there. You know, everybody says it's Mason's
Speaker 1: that that started this thing, that run this thing right, right,
Speaker 1: what if it's the Templars and you know, and Mason's
Speaker 1: but but mainly the Templars, because that's.
Speaker 2: What Now you're right on. You're right on, because I
Speaker 2: always tell folks, all right, well if the if the
Speaker 2: if this is a massonic country and all the US
Speaker 2: presidents or Mason's where's the proof, Oh there is nothing? Okay,
Speaker 2: Well every US president was a member of the Society
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Yeah, yeah, man, So that's.
Speaker 1: What it is. And like, I don't want to get
Speaker 1: to I want to show you something before we we
Speaker 1: almost just dove right in the deep end.
Speaker 2: Now you're spot on though, And I like to use
Speaker 2: Clan Vance as an anchor point whether or not Abnor Vance,
Speaker 2: my forefather and the actual Vice President's forefather was a
Speaker 2: was a member of Clan Advance, which again I document
Speaker 2: is not the case through science and everything else, DNA evidence, etcetera.
Speaker 2: There and others agree with me, like the Clan Vans
Speaker 2: DNA study agrees with me as well. They agree that
Speaker 2: Abner Vance is closely related to the descendants of Matthew
Speaker 2: Vance and Anne Jones Vance. Well, I argue they're looking
Speaker 2: at from the wrong perspective because Anne Jones Vance is
Speaker 2: the first cousin of Martha Dandridge Washington. So the reason
Speaker 2: why they was descendants are close to related is not
Speaker 2: because of Advance, even though that is his last name
Speaker 2: on paper, even though there's no document birth. You know,
Speaker 2: you know these matters again, these are this, this is
Speaker 2: the secret history I'm referring to though as well, but
Speaker 2: relative to clan Advances put in an anchor point in
Speaker 2: that is plan the Patrick Vance, Sir Patrick Vance of
Speaker 2: the barn Bar Advances that would be Abner's would be
Speaker 2: ancestor was an associate of King James. And so we
Speaker 2: see that the Knights templar families with the Jacobites around
Speaker 2: King James, right, and we see and Frank there you
Speaker 2: go in France and isn't in New Scotland Nova Scotia,
Speaker 2: which he's credited often credited for the foundation of.
Speaker 1: Okay, interesting, yeah, I mean we've talked about this, you know.
Speaker 1: I think this all goes back to these older orders
Speaker 1: that come out of the Middle East, notably the Brothers
Speaker 1: of the East who initiated the first couple of templars
Speaker 1: in Istanbul. And then those two guys it was Hugh
Speaker 1: to Pains and Godfrey that were initiated by a Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern group. Right, well, actually, let me let me let
Speaker 1: me rephrase that. So So the Brothers of the East
Speaker 1: came out of Greece, so they were Greek, but they
Speaker 1: were in Istanbul and Turkey, and they initiate the first
Speaker 1: two Templars, whose names are Godfrey and Hugh to Pains.
Speaker 2: But let's look at ancestry. Who's his daddy? What does
Speaker 2: he do? Well?
Speaker 1: My point is is like this goes back to an
Speaker 1: older order. That's you know, that's my point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, go ahead, you're you're spot on. No, you're spot on.
Speaker 2: And again these are generational aspects, right, So we look
Speaker 2: at you de Pain's ancestry, he's got he's got Soufiism
Speaker 2: in his ancestry.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's what I'm talking about exactly.
Speaker 2: So people, I think there's a lot of things that
Speaker 2: are intentionally misdescribed about these organizations today. The hash Ashens
Speaker 2: and the Assassins you know those are known as and
Speaker 2: the Templars. Now, a lot of misconceptions about all these organizations. None. Nonetheless,
Speaker 2: they are the same organization they found that they were
Speaker 2: found at the same They have the same organizational structure,
Speaker 2: they have the same uniforms despite them going with the
Speaker 2: Islamic you know, red and white combo versus the the
Speaker 2: Christian Saint George red and white combo across they say
Speaker 2: Saint George, Saint Andrew across of St. Andrew. Wait a second, no,
Speaker 2: wait it is I'm getting my my brain holes looped
Speaker 2: up here at the moment, sir. But they have the
Speaker 2: red and white motif for the CROSSSS and then they
Speaker 2: have the white with the moon and the star there
Speaker 2: for these assassins. But it's because of you, to Pains
Speaker 2: and the founder of this organization. They have the same
Speaker 2: organizational structure. These were never different organizations that matched together.
Speaker 2: They were the same organization from the start. And people
Speaker 2: often misdescribed the Crusades because you're like, wait a second,
Speaker 2: so again, these are the narratives we're sold as under
Speaker 2: broad senses in generalities, in which did confuse us and
Speaker 2: propagandize us. Because if you look at the Crusades, you're like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's Christians versus Muslims. Is that what it's about? Is
Speaker 2: what I what? I sear the same bloodlines and you're
Speaker 2: saying they go further back. You are spot on. So
Speaker 2: let's look at who the templar think they're. Jesus and
Speaker 2: Mary are and you just said we're the foundation of
Speaker 2: the Templars were courtesy of the Council of Claremont and
Speaker 2: France and uh the this so that was the that
Speaker 2: was the administration headquarters, the operational headquarters. What you're describing
Speaker 2: there with you to Pains. They're in Turkey, modern day Turkey. Well,
Speaker 2: that's where the Templars think their ancestry is the ancient
Speaker 2: Kingdom of Odessa. Well, let's see who the Kingdom of
Speaker 2: Odessa is comprised of. It's the machinations of a Judeo
Speaker 2: Egyptian royal bloodline and a Persian royal bloodline. And what
Speaker 2: do we see in the in the narratives of the
Speaker 2: Birth of Jesus, Well, that's what we see in the
Speaker 2: representation of the magis, including Baltizar, right, including the Persian
Speaker 2: you know king, you know king, magician, wizard dude. And
Speaker 2: and then back to Clan Vance as an anchor point.
Speaker 2: Clan Vance. Now again I don't have any proof to
Speaker 2: say distributed on these matters, but it has been long
Speaker 2: legend of Clan Vance, dating back thousands of years to
Speaker 2: the at least the twelfth century or eleventh century. And
Speaker 2: they're in all throughout France to what is now northern Italy.
Speaker 2: Clan Vance's battle call was all hail King Baltasar because
Speaker 2: they claimed to be descendants of that same king Baltazar
Speaker 2: right on.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they were in the Middle East. That's why
Speaker 1: I pulled this up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so we're talking, we're talking, so we're talking multi
Speaker 2: multi generational stuff. But we're also the other I think
Speaker 2: the other misconception is it's not Judea. We're talking about
Speaker 2: the ancient Kingdom of Odessa, Turkey with the templars that
Speaker 2: is the First Crusades.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just so this is interesting, right we I
Speaker 1: wanted to show this up front before we got down
Speaker 1: these tangents, so I'm just gonna pull it up.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: This is a new discovery. It's a fourteen hundred year
Speaker 1: old site is a monastery found in the United Arab Emirates.
Speaker 1: I've looked at the Smithsonian page as well on this.
Speaker 1: They've got an article about this and they're saying that
Speaker 1: this is a Christian cross and it may be, but
Speaker 1: look at this thing it's got when you zoom in
Speaker 1: on it. What do we see there little temple.
Speaker 2: Are crosses cross of Saint George.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Saint George to them goes back to what
Speaker 1: you're saying, right, this was a they were putting all
Speaker 1: these monuments to Saint Georgia up all over the Middle East,
Speaker 1: and the Drews were doing it too.
Speaker 2: And what what yours is stated to fourteen years ago?
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's what it says. It doesn't say anything
Speaker 1: in this thing about it being templar though, but clearly
Speaker 1: you see the templar crosses, right, I'm not crazy.
Speaker 2: What Yeah, dude, that's what I'm saying. So where where
Speaker 2: does the Templars get that cross from? Is the question? Then? Right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Which cross of the tom? Are you talking about the
Speaker 1: main cross? Because that's I'm saying all these little.
Speaker 2: You know, that's what I'm talking about. Yes, sir, those
Speaker 2: are the ones I'm looking at, Yes, sir, okay, okay, yep.
Speaker 1: Are you saying this is the cross of Saint George? No?
Speaker 2: Isn't that, Mike? And is it Saint George or Saint Andrew?
Speaker 2: Which one of my again my brain hole, I think
Speaker 2: starting I thought, so, yeah, that's.
Speaker 1: Who they venerate, That's who the Drews venerate. And the
Speaker 1: Drews are closely knit with the Templars. They helped build
Speaker 1: Solomon's temple apparently.
Speaker 2: Right, well, yeah again, so where do these symbols come from? Right?
Speaker 2: Did the did the templars just create that imagery or
Speaker 2: that symbol? Right?
Speaker 1: Right? Well, I don't know. I don't know much about it.
Speaker 1: I just see that this is a new discovery and
Speaker 1: it's got templar crosses on it, and I thought that
Speaker 1: that was interesting and it comes out of you know,
Speaker 1: the UAE.
Speaker 2: I think it's extremely interesting because if it's fourteen hundred
Speaker 2: year old, that's after the time of Saint George.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, so yeah, I mean I've I'm not like, well,
Speaker 1: what I'm on Saint George. I should be, but I've
Speaker 1: read that that they venerate Saint George a lot.
Speaker 2: I'm what I'm inferring ser is, Saint George is in
Speaker 2: their bloodline and they've been using that symbol of Saint
Speaker 2: George since his time and this comes after that time
Speaker 2: within those same bloodlines. I'm saying that makes a lot
Speaker 2: of sense to me.
Speaker 1: M hmm. Okay, okay, and I got another one I
Speaker 1: want to show you too.
Speaker 2: And we know they use the same symbols in these bloodlines.
Speaker 2: Look at Scott Walter's work on the hooked X within
Speaker 2: these same as he calls them the Venus families because
Speaker 2: they do Venus worship and Goddess worship, which has been
Speaker 2: their biggest beef with the paternal religious orders of the
Speaker 2: Vatican and predecessing paternal religious orders before the Vatican. That
Speaker 2: has been the biggest beef with these blood lines ever since.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they definitely do venerate Venus and we can get
Speaker 1: I want to get more into that here in a
Speaker 1: little bit too.
Speaker 2: And Scott Walter documents some of that worship in the
Speaker 2: symbols they use within their bloodlines as the hookdex.
Speaker 1: M h m hm, I'm starting.
Speaker 2: We see the hooktechs from from King tut to when
Speaker 2: I said those Judeo Judeo Persian kingdom of the Kingdom
Speaker 2: of Odessa, if you traced the Judeo Egyptian portion of
Speaker 2: that goes back through the blood lines of Aknant. We
Speaker 2: see the hook tax going through Acina and King tut
Speaker 2: all the way down through the Kingdom of Odessa, all
Speaker 2: the way through the Vikings, Normans Templars into the society families.
Speaker 2: Here in America. We see the hooktex on the Kensington
Speaker 2: Runstone m h.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'm starting to find that there is goddess
Speaker 1: worship tied in with all this as well with the templars.
Speaker 2: I think that's what the biggest issue is, right, So
Speaker 2: that's the biggest issue that sends us underground. You can
Speaker 2: call it a cultism, et cetera. But if you want
Speaker 2: to get down to the greatest common denominator, because operation
Speaker 2: gcdsers not just garbage can dude here, but uh greatest
Speaker 2: common denometer. That's what I used to call my private
Speaker 2: detective agency because that's how I look at all things
Speaker 2: in this world. Because once you break things down to
Speaker 2: the greatest common denominator, starts probably context understanding of the circumstances.
Speaker 2: And when you see that the pattern here throughout time
Speaker 2: is this goddess worship of these same bloodlines. Well you
Speaker 2: can see why the paternal religious orders would have issues
Speaker 2: with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. I mean that that could be a big
Speaker 1: reason as to why the Catholic Church had beef with them.
Speaker 1: It's probably not the only reason.
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's not the only you are correct, or
Speaker 2: it is a factor.
Speaker 1: You're right, Yeah, No, you're right, man. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: see that they were all about the goddess worship. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna show you something later that confirms that too. I know,
Speaker 1: I'm we're talking the same language here. You already know it.
Speaker 2: But I like your style.
Speaker 1: I'm seeing I'm seeing it too, man in my research,
Speaker 1: and like I want to throw this up to as
Speaker 1: like attle appetizer here before I get into all that.
Speaker 1: This is the This is the Passano Temple. Okay, it's
Speaker 1: in Italy. It's in a little town out there, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's called Passano. Is the name of the town.
Speaker 2: And you know, can you spell that for me? Please
Speaker 2: start and using a sentence. Also, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: P O S S A G n oh, Passangel, all right, passage.
Speaker 2: I just want to see what this wasn't the map
Speaker 2: because before this was Italy, Like I was saying that
Speaker 2: the with Clan Vance there and the and their night,
Speaker 2: you know, they're all hell King Baltizar and stuff. So
Speaker 2: after the fall of the Temple, I'm I tracked a
Speaker 2: night of Clan Vance picking up bones across France and
Speaker 2: northern Italy. There not probably not far. I'll look here
Speaker 2: on happened a second? How far from this location of
Speaker 2: the Sinclairs of the Roslyn Chapel. Sinclair's of the templars.
Speaker 2: So this is the fifteenth century. This dude's collecting bones
Speaker 2: and put him into a Christian church. There northern Italy
Speaker 2: and the old province of Orange, which was at one
Speaker 2: point in time the province commanded there by the templar knights. Yes,
Speaker 2: of the Vance Clanton.
Speaker 1: We'll come back to Saint Clair too, or that family
Speaker 1: in a second. Me.
Speaker 2: Let me say, when we're looking at this, I just
Speaker 2: want to say that when we're looking at Italy that
Speaker 2: before it was Italy, you know, there was a lot
Speaker 2: of connections with the templar folks in this region, including
Speaker 2: a major incident where this dude's collecting bones of all
Speaker 2: of his people. He was a Sinclair Vance and collect
Speaker 2: him on and put him in one I'll look up
Speaker 2: the Christian chapel. It was in the old province of
Speaker 2: Orange there in northern Italy.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we'll see how close this is.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Listen to this, bro. This is built by a guy
Speaker 1: named Antonio. This is where this is where he's buried. Okay.
Speaker 1: He was a sculptor, right, he's Italian. He sculpted George
Speaker 1: Washington as as the Roman in the North Carolina State House.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about. They have no state
Speaker 1: house has a sculpture of George Washington, and it's very Roman.
Speaker 1: The guy who's buried here sculpted it. A listener. Actually,
Speaker 1: it's more like a buddy of mine told me to
Speaker 1: look into this guy Calvonia.
Speaker 2: And do I know what statue you're talking about, sir?
Speaker 2: That's still going like it, But it's George Washington and
Speaker 2: the state founded by Clay Advance, captain to Dave Advance,
Speaker 2: which had been Abder's uncle on paper was the delegate
Speaker 2: to the state to the Congress to start the state
Speaker 2: of North Carolina in seventeen eighty nine. So yeah, now
Speaker 2: it's a great statue. I had no idea that I
Speaker 2: dude was buried here. I'm fascinated by all of this.
Speaker 1: It gets a little deeper because I'm looking at this
Speaker 1: courtyard right, I'm looking this guy up like Justin told
Speaker 1: me to, and I'm looking at this. I don't know
Speaker 1: why Jack Parsons is showing up down here in the
Speaker 1: corner of that.
Speaker 2: I immediately just saw that, and I'm like, what in
Speaker 2: the world is marchby Camra And if Jack Parson's doing
Speaker 2: down there.
Speaker 1: But right here, I can't wait.
Speaker 2: How is that related though? How is that related? Dude?
Speaker 2: What is going on life?
Speaker 1: I don't know, bro, it's just popped up. It's seenially
Speaker 1: not related. I'm trying to blow this up, but it's
Speaker 1: not letting me anyway. In the courtyard, there's a templar
Speaker 1: cross right here. Can you see that?
Speaker 2: There's two man, there's two of them. So I'm thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm saying, dude, how long have they been using the
Speaker 2: cross of Saint George within these bloodlines?
Speaker 1: Well, they got this from the Anonaki. Some of them say, Okay,
Speaker 1: this cross right here is the one that they say
Speaker 1: they got from the Anonaki and the and it was
Speaker 1: red and everything. And I checked up on that, and
Speaker 1: sure enough, you go back to some of these old
Speaker 1: Sumerian pictures, inscriptions, depictions, et cetera. Uh, you'll see or
Speaker 1: you'll read about it, but you'll see also Sumerian kings
Speaker 1: wearing that cross said it's a Nanaoki thing.
Speaker 2: I did not know that. I did not know that.
Speaker 1: JJ. It's also associated within hona ishtar. Going back to
Speaker 1: this goddess thread.
Speaker 2: There you go, there you go, and and folks. Folks
Speaker 2: may think that there's not a lot of guys worship
Speaker 2: just on our face in our modern era. Well I would,
Speaker 2: I would argue otherwise. So I would say that back
Speaker 2: in the ancient times of Babylonian times, is documented it
Speaker 2: was you go to a site of worship of Ishtar
Speaker 2: and you would go pay tribute with with money or
Speaker 2: some sort of goods of value. And uh, well, we
Speaker 2: do that today many folks, millions of folks across the
Speaker 2: world and specifically in America, every day they go to
Speaker 2: the the the temple of Ishtar, and uh the I
Speaker 2: call it the coffee the temple of the fish goddess
Speaker 2: there or the Starbucks coffee shop and then pay tribute
Speaker 2: with exponentially high high cost for shitty coffee.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what is the name of that goddess that's
Speaker 1: on the the Anyways, I'll think about it later. So
Speaker 1: I was going to try to find a people.
Speaker 2: But that's a good that's a good point. So about
Speaker 2: how long have I been using that symbol too? Dude?
Speaker 2: Within this these these blood lines right right right, and
Speaker 2: regarding these Sumerian tales of this kind of you know,
Speaker 2: they're not far off from the tales of the giants
Speaker 2: right right, as far as the you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of my understanding of the Sumerian tales or there's a
Speaker 2: lot of tales that are construed as again Zacharice stitching
Speaker 2: funded by the Rockefellers. But and you know, ancient Allian
Speaker 2: cargo cultis you gotta take you gotta kind of you know,
Speaker 2: use your discernment and figure out fact from fiction within
Speaker 2: their tales. I you know, I formerly was one for
Speaker 2: twenty two years with the Mormons. But what I'm saying
Speaker 2: there is, you know, you have these tales of genetic manipulations,
Speaker 2: et cetera, and you have different sized humans as a result.
Speaker 2: We see that kind of within these mounds. And again
Speaker 2: my theory is the folks within these blood lines, they
Speaker 2: believe they are descended from those giant humans at the
Speaker 2: base of those those Adenas style mounds, and my DNA
Speaker 2: studies would would investigations would would indicate the same. So
Speaker 2: my paternal DNA goes back to the Beaker people. According
Speaker 2: to modern day science, folk and the Beaker people were
Speaker 2: the mound building culture of stonehenge.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, yeah, of course. So and one more thing
Speaker 1: because I just I wanted to show this blowing up right.
Speaker 1: So there's the cross for people. There's two templar crosses
Speaker 1: here and this guy's this is this guy's whom essentially.
Speaker 2: That's wild dude. This is so, this is great architecture.
Speaker 2: Relativit the same folks. So wait, society ventsity attention. But
Speaker 2: you guys are.
Speaker 1: One more thing. I'm sorry. This guy is linked to
Speaker 1: George Washington somehow because he did the skult. You know,
Speaker 1: he was chosen to do George Washington's statue thing there.
Speaker 1: So like, does I'm saying that maybe this guy was well,
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that this guy was a temple I'm saying,
Speaker 1: is that why he was chosen to do this the sculpture?
Speaker 2: And there you go? So and there you go. So
Speaker 2: when we see these various bloodlines going back in the
Speaker 2: various areas of the world they inhabit, we see in
Speaker 2: the Norman invasion of America to what is now Newfoundland,
Speaker 2: Nova Scotia through the lawn salt Meadows, Uh settlement that's
Speaker 2: recognized by those bastards of the un back in nineteen
Speaker 2: sixty four, but ten sixty six, right, the ten sixty
Speaker 2: six Norman invasion of the UK from William the Conqueror
Speaker 2: and his two lieutenants, the vance Boys. They were his cousins.
Speaker 2: They were born in the same castle. They're in Normandy.
Speaker 2: When we also see that same group of folks the
Speaker 2: ten sixty six invasion of Sicily, So the Sicilians are
Speaker 2: the same, have the same bloodlines as the Templars. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So when when we see these matters that go over
Speaker 2: there and we see it, so we see it maybe
Speaker 2: over the years, and we see an Italian guy like
Speaker 2: this building in the same style of architecture, with that
Speaker 2: that that Greek revival, which gives us they venerate the society,
Speaker 2: venerates the Roman Republic because I think they descend from
Speaker 2: the Roman Republic. Yeah, Cincinnatus. I think Cincinnatis was a giant.
Speaker 2: That's why we see a seven and a half foot
Speaker 2: tall statue of Cincinnatus on the site that this group
Speaker 2: founded in the city of Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it doesn't I don't think it stops there. It
Speaker 1: does go back to Roman stuff they were they were
Speaker 1: borrowing from Romans and all the things you mentioned there.
Speaker 1: But I think it goes back to the Greeks as well,
Speaker 1: because remember the Greeks. The Romans built a lot of
Speaker 1: their based a lot of their thoughts off of what
Speaker 1: the Greeks had had thrashed out before them.
Speaker 2: Well, if I made certain, let's let's let's differentiate a
Speaker 2: couple of topics here. So organizations like the Vatican get
Speaker 2: compromised over time, for example, on this on the note
Speaker 2: of what you're saying right there, For example, we have
Speaker 2: an American pope right now, the Vatican of French Protestant origins,
Speaker 2: who has ken folk in the French chapter of the
Speaker 2: Society of Cincinnati document I've traced said down through his
Speaker 2: family tree and whatnot. So on top of that we
Speaker 2: see other you know, regarding just the concepts that we're
Speaker 2: looking at here with them, organizations that get compromised, and
Speaker 2: over time, the narratives that get spun around some subjects, right,
Speaker 2: especially regarding the templars.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, Well, these templars they get around, right. Of course,
Speaker 1: we find their calling card in that Roberty Lee moa
Speaker 1: monument that you and I talked about on a show.
Speaker 2: But dude, I was I was gonna I was going
Speaker 2: to bring that up here tonight. But you know, go ahead,
Speaker 2: go ahead there you're in my brain hole, sir, you're
Speaker 2: in my brain hole. That's a fascinating thing. Well, that's
Speaker 2: just such a discovery.
Speaker 1: That's what really, that's what really put the nail in
Speaker 1: the coffin for me. And it brought me to the
Speaker 1: conclusion that they were definitely here and and they were
Speaker 1: involved with the inner workings of this country and the
Speaker 1: building of this country, and the building of this empire,
Speaker 1: and the Francis spacing concept of New Atlantis and some
Speaker 1: of the things no Serdamask talked about, and some of
Speaker 1: the things that went back to Plutarch degree et cetera.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love Plutarch.
Speaker 1: So because the Greeks knew about this continent, they knew
Speaker 1: it was.
Speaker 2: Over here, right, No, you're your spot, ons her your spot.
Speaker 1: Later down the line, after the country was started. I
Speaker 1: think some of these guys like Robert E. Lee seems
Speaker 1: like they were templars too, and they were putting messages
Speaker 1: in these monuments, right. So, like in twenty twenty, I
Speaker 1: think it was whenever this dear in the riots of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty time they decide they're going to take
Speaker 1: down this Robert E. Least monument because he was a
Speaker 1: Confederate and they find on live TV or live recording,
Speaker 1: the ladies got the gloves on, she's got the masks.
Speaker 1: She's going through this box they pulled out of this
Speaker 1: monument and she pulls out these pieces of paper and
Speaker 1: she goes she reads something out loud and she says, oh,
Speaker 1: Night's templar, And it's like, oops, we weren't.
Speaker 2: Really well, sir. I never even until you brought this
Speaker 2: some my attention, I never heard of it. Do you
Speaker 2: mind bringing that up so we can look at an
Speaker 2: example of that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll try, dude, Because what's weird about this is
Speaker 1: like I found that footage right before you and I talked,
Speaker 1: and we talked about it on that show. I went
Speaker 1: back and tried to find the footage and I can't.
Speaker 1: It's it's buried in a three hour long.
Speaker 2: Film challenge acceptance or I will find it in the
Speaker 2: meantime after tonight show and we'll link it in here.
Speaker 2: But my point there is that's a great that's a
Speaker 2: great discovery, you know. Okay. There emphasizes my entire basis
Speaker 2: and my theories here as well, including the LEAs and
Speaker 2: I'll get I'll put a pen in the lee family
Speaker 2: that them Lee boys are nothing but trouble if you
Speaker 2: ask me, m h. And I'll put put a pen
Speaker 2: in that for a second, because again, when we're talking
Speaker 2: about these broad narratives and the propagandaized narratives we live under.
Speaker 2: So we think of Rome as the Vatican, Well there
Speaker 2: was the Republic of Room, and that was the Cincinnatis
Speaker 2: who saved the Republican room twice. And that's why George
Speaker 2: Washington thought he was I think he thought he was
Speaker 2: the reincarnated version at least was you know, living out
Speaker 2: that that that that character basis if you will, at
Speaker 2: Hero's journey almost because he came out of retirement twice
Speaker 2: to save America, once as the general and then secondly
Speaker 2: as a president, and neither didn't want to either time.
Speaker 2: So when we're looking at all of these things again
Speaker 2: to understand the nuances of the context, when we say Greek,
Speaker 2: ancient Greek, well that's that's who Cincinnats was. So the
Speaker 2: Roman Republic was a republic. You didn't have to be Roman,
Speaker 2: you were of different ethnicities, and then you were a
Speaker 2: Roman citizen in the republic. And that's that's no different
Speaker 2: we see it today here in America. You could be German, Scots, Irish, Norse, African, Chinese,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But you're a US citizen. Right.
Speaker 2: It's the same difference there with the Roman Republic, right,
Speaker 2: which is we see the reincarnation of the Roman Republic
Speaker 2: with the America. So they operate the same in that capacity.
Speaker 2: So when we're talking about ancient Greek stuff, that's what
Speaker 2: we're talking about the same bloodlines from Plutarch down to
Speaker 2: the Robert E. Lee boys in the Templars and everything else.
Speaker 2: These This is what I'm saying is these things go
Speaker 2: back along ways, and we can see them go back.
Speaker 2: There's ways through this example. So as I said before.
Speaker 1: It's as if they had the planned out like down
Speaker 1: to this monument too, Like whoever put that box in
Speaker 1: their plans for that to be found? I think, I
Speaker 1: guess at some point by another templar, And it's almost
Speaker 1: like they just they're leaving clues for each other like this.
Speaker 1: It's like a it's like a game of national treasure
Speaker 1: they play. But oh man, I look at it and
Speaker 1: I think that this was a lot of stuff that
Speaker 1: was planned out, right, Like I think the nation itself,
Speaker 1: I'm starting to think it was planned out. It's not
Speaker 1: my theory. It's Manly P. Hall who had that all
Speaker 1: out in a book.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, No, I've read that book.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And that's what I think all this is. It's
Speaker 1: like this, the American Empire was a thought to these
Speaker 1: guys in this order for a long time, even even
Speaker 1: to Francis Bacon. This was a thought. They were talking
Speaker 1: about it as if it's something that's going to something
Speaker 1: to come, something they were working on, something they were
Speaker 1: working towards. And it's like the spark was George Washington
Speaker 1: and getting all these guys together and starting this thing.
Speaker 1: It was like the spark, right, it came to life.
Speaker 1: Like it's like they manifested it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's I think that's in large part accurate.
Speaker 2: I would say that George Washington did not want to
Speaker 2: start the Society of the Cincinnati, that is first and foremost.
Speaker 2: I think what he did was he intervened and took
Speaker 2: part and took control of it once he realized what
Speaker 2: was going on, because he'd already faced numerous cups. And
Speaker 2: when you're saying they're trying to start it, in part, yes,
Speaker 2: they're trying to restart it. Though these families had long
Speaker 2: controlled this land. This was Atlantis, in my opinion, when
Speaker 2: many Pielsa is the new Atlantis, because this was the
Speaker 2: original Atlantis. It's not buried under the ocean anywhere. This
Speaker 2: was it, and these families knew it, and they've known
Speaker 2: about it because they've been here the entire time, and
Speaker 2: they didn't used to murk all the natives as we'd
Speaker 2: like to describe it today. And we see that emphasize
Speaker 2: with the Micmac tribes, with the Cherokee tribes and some
Speaker 2: of the other Algonquin tribes with their obvious influences from
Speaker 2: from what we would describe now as Western or European influences,
Speaker 2: when you know, be at the cross of Saint George
Speaker 2: and the Mickmack flag, their alphabet and whatnot, and other
Speaker 2: symbols being derived from the Saint Clair's of Roslyn Chapel, Fame,
Speaker 2: et cetera, et cetera. So we see these things being emphasized,
Speaker 2: you know, in a different narrave than what we're described
Speaker 2: in our propagandized Crown History of America. There is a
Speaker 2: lot of evidence of it, and you're just your discovery
Speaker 2: of that Roberty et Least statue is that it is
Speaker 2: exhibiting a pattern of behavior that folks, there is a
Speaker 2: plan being hatched throughout time, throughout these families. And they
Speaker 2: have different sites when you're talking about National Treasure stuff,
Speaker 2: all of these different sites they bury things in and
Speaker 2: they do line up, it seems. And I was pointing
Speaker 2: these things out on Reddit years ago, telling you them
Speaker 2: a little bit before the show, before I started my podcast,
Speaker 2: I would, you know, comment on and Reddit and things
Speaker 2: like Scott Walter's you know, social medias and whatnot about
Speaker 2: some of these matters. And on Reddit I posted a
Speaker 2: lot of these details regarding the templarts of America, the
Speaker 2: very factual, salient characteristics around such, and someone replied to me,
Speaker 2: I thought was one of the most hilarious responses ever.
Speaker 2: But it's kind of what we just said with National
Speaker 2: Treasures is they said, that's a great tale. It's a
Speaker 2: bunch of nonsense. I'm paraphrasing. You may as well write
Speaker 2: that as the next National Treasure movie, National Treasure three.
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's not a bad idea. Actually, yeah, it's not.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what this is.
Speaker 2: We're living well years later now, what yeah, exactly, sir,
Speaker 2: years later? That was twenty fifteen. So year after that
Speaker 2: we're finding evidence of the exact theories I was reporting
Speaker 2: on Reddit in twenty fifteen, and when folks tell me
Speaker 2: that's fanciful and infectional and it's part of a movie,
Speaker 2: this is what I mean by why they put things
Speaker 2: in movies.
Speaker 1: So yes, the Templar records that I've reviewed in this
Speaker 1: research recently suggests that the Sinclairs did indeed have a
Speaker 1: treasure that they hid over here. And apparently in seventeen
Speaker 1: sixty five, Ben Franklin got into an old Templar vault
Speaker 1: on Oak Island and they got that Sinclair treasure, part
Speaker 1: of it at least, and they used it to fund
Speaker 1: the American Revolution. Then another guy came along later named
Speaker 1: Captain Tim McLaren from Clan McLaren. That was around seventeen
Speaker 1: sixty nine. He returned to Oak Island and got the
Speaker 1: rest of that treasure, or a lot more of it.
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's still treasure there or not.
Speaker 1: I would suggest that that treasure is probably just no
Speaker 1: longer there at this point. But my point is that
Speaker 1: the Templars put it there in the first place, and
Speaker 1: it was the Sinclair family that did it, and that
Speaker 1: treasure was used in this plan that you're talking about,
Speaker 1: this plan to start up or reenact or whatever you're
Speaker 1: gonna call it, to a plan to make this American
Speaker 1: empire just that an empire. And that treasure is old stuff.
Speaker 1: This is an old Middle Eastern treasure that goes back
Speaker 1: to Petra. These guys were storing some of this stuff
Speaker 1: in Petra. Talk about movies, right, Indiana Jones, Petra.
Speaker 2: Like, well, the Ancient Library of Babylon.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, there's a couple of places, right, but
Speaker 1: but you know, Petro, I don't want to go too
Speaker 1: far down a Petra rabbit hole. But we didn't even
Speaker 1: know about that place. It wasn't made a UNESCO World
Speaker 1: Heritage Site until the eighties.
Speaker 2: And that's a very interesting, interesting site because that's the
Speaker 2: one you see in Indiana Jones Part three, the Temple,
Speaker 2: the Knights, Temple Last Crusades.
Speaker 1: And it's weird because when you look at when that
Speaker 1: was made a World on UNESCO site, and you look
Speaker 1: at when they made that movie, somebody, somebody over there,
Speaker 1: Lucas's came out knew some things because that wasn't information.
Speaker 1: That information wasn't out yet about that site when they
Speaker 1: started making that movie.
Speaker 2: In my opinion, Oh Lucas was in the cultis he
Speaker 2: basically used the book Spear of Destiny to make that
Speaker 2: to write his Indiana Jones tails on top of and
Speaker 2: I would argue he used the real character, who by
Speaker 2: all appearances was an hereditary descendant of the Society of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati has the character basis for Indiana Jones. That's that
Speaker 2: man's name was Augustus Lapongin. His father and grandfather powerful
Speaker 2: naval commanders within that French chapter of the Society of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and he got shipped over here to America as part
Speaker 2: of the smithsent these societies start of the Smithsonian to
Speaker 2: export and expressly survey the mounds of the Squire and
Speaker 2: Davis Ancient the Survey of the Ancient archet ancient architecture
Speaker 2: of the Mississippi Valley in eighteen forty eight. Laponchin was
Speaker 2: their assistant. He would then go on to study all
Speaker 2: of the Mayan cultures, et cetera, all the way down
Speaker 2: to Peru. He actually discovered shit in Peru that he
Speaker 2: doesn't get credit for today. That folks forty years after
Speaker 2: him get credit for this. So that's to show you
Speaker 2: this factional divide about some of these matters, and you
Speaker 2: see a society guy getting diminished, but he has very
Speaker 2: much the real life Indiana Jones. He would argue that
Speaker 2: the culture here in America predates the ancient Egyptian culture
Speaker 2: and there was from essentially the Yucatan to the Grand Canyon.
Speaker 2: Was this theory consisted of that culture before ancient Egypts.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm thinking about something else because you know,
Speaker 1: we talked about how a lot of this comes out
Speaker 1: of the Middle East. You know, I know that there's
Speaker 1: that Roman Greek influence there, but I think that the order,
Speaker 1: the occult order that these templars originally came out of
Speaker 1: was like a Middle Eastern thing going like you said, Sufi,
Speaker 1: And I would add to that the Drews, right, the
Speaker 1: Templars had a secret hand grip that they used that
Speaker 1: they got from the Drews. And this is a very
Speaker 1: fascinating group. They're like a cult pre Masonic group who
Speaker 1: helped build Solomon's Temple and then later down the line
Speaker 1: when you see the second temple being built by King Herod,
Speaker 1: who was an Edamite Petra's Petra's an Edomite site. They
Speaker 1: were using templars to guard that place, right, So all
Speaker 1: this information is just getting passed down from this Middle
Speaker 1: Eastern group in my opinion, and that's where some of
Speaker 1: this treasure came from the first place. But what you
Speaker 1: see is like that the Native Americans over here knew
Speaker 1: some of those secret hand grips that were templars.
Speaker 2: Absolutely absolutely, so I'm saying that they were.
Speaker 1: Believe what you want about this treasure out there, Like
Speaker 1: I'm telling you that Oak Island treasure is a templars thing,
Speaker 1: and I think it's gone, but believe what you will
Speaker 1: about that. But they were over here, and the hand
Speaker 1: grips prove it because they can make your handshakes.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, if I can make two points to bookmark,
Speaker 2: you know, exhibit those some no known some facts around
Speaker 2: the Society of the Cincinnati that descendants of the templars.
Speaker 2: Because again George Washington, ten of his forefathers is fourteenth
Speaker 2: through seventeenth great grandfathers ten men were the ten of
Speaker 2: the twenty five nights that brought us magnet Carta five
Speaker 2: hundred and sixty four. Approximately years later, there were grants
Speaker 2: on George Washington brings us magnet Carta two point zero.
Speaker 2: So I don't think these things when you're talking about plans, dude.
Speaker 2: That's that right, there is exhibiting of a long term plan.
Speaker 1: It's a long term plan, man, And like that's what
Speaker 1: it is. It's a long term plan. That's That's what
Speaker 1: I was trying to articulate earlier.
Speaker 2: That's just want yeah, sir, if you want to take
Speaker 2: that back a bit further and talking about these ancient
Speaker 2: orders and the secret societies that operate within them, with
Speaker 2: these the treasures of ancient past that have been passed
Speaker 2: down these bloodlines. There's a member of the Society of
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati. He was a major out of the New
Speaker 2: York chapter. His names escaped me at the moment. His
Speaker 2: mother was a Mohawk Indian. I think it was Mohawk, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I believes Mohawk. And then you know in the Finger
Speaker 2: Lakes region there of New York. So as a result
Speaker 2: of his mother, because he's a maternal again, this is
Speaker 2: back to that goddess worship. The Cherokees operate the same
Speaker 2: way much as these other Algonquin tribes. They have maternal hierarchies.
Speaker 2: So for example, on that note, my forefather, George Lowry
Speaker 2: was a Scotsman Cherokee. His mother was Cherokee. That's how
Speaker 2: he became deputy chief of the Cherokee.
Speaker 1: It's what you said earlier. Mil. You scene the name
Speaker 1: just can't mil. You see, that's the goddess on the
Speaker 1: Starbucks logo. That's a matriarchal bloodline that goes back to
Speaker 1: a female goddess.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this thing, when I say, is charge this thing,
Speaker 2: we changed the name over time with language. It's the
Speaker 2: same character. You could call it Hecatea, you call it,
Speaker 2: you got all these things. You call it Columbia, which
Speaker 2: is what the society calls it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I think there's one main goddess
Speaker 1: that that all this revolves around, and that seems to
Speaker 1: be this ishtar and on a Sumerian character. That's as
Speaker 1: far back as I can trace it. But like, look
Speaker 1: like the what is it? There's a there's a country
Speaker 1: over in Europe. It's a landlocked country and it's a
Speaker 1: real small little country. And it's like that when you
Speaker 1: look at the I'm trying to remember the name of it.
Speaker 2: But when you look at Lichtenstein, no, I think it
Speaker 2: starts with the nail though.
Speaker 1: But when you look into the country. I'll look it
Speaker 1: up here in a minute. But like the royal family
Speaker 1: actually traces their bloodline back to mail Usine.
Speaker 2: I think that's linchten Steinser for real.
Speaker 1: So there's something to that. And like the drus right,
Speaker 1: they were one of these Middle Eastern orders. They're still
Speaker 1: around today. But that's where a lot of this stuff
Speaker 1: kind of uh got injected into the temph Flars plan.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Sure they were, they were following that, and I talked
Speaker 1: to you about this. The Drews followed that ancient Aldeborn
Speaker 1: star knowledge of like when to plan big events right,
Speaker 1: when to when to make your move when in conjunction
Speaker 1: with the stars. Right, So when when alder Baron is
Speaker 1: over the moon, not eclipsed over the moon, it's that's
Speaker 1: when you make your big moves. It's that whole Hey, diddle, diddle,
Speaker 1: the cat played the fiddle, the cow taris, the cow
Speaker 1: Taris jumps over the moon. That that's when you make
Speaker 1: big moves. That's that's that's the star system that's encoded
Speaker 1: in the star for it in New York City and
Speaker 1: the obelisk alignment in New York City that Vanderbilt put
Speaker 1: his Egyptian obilisk on that right on that alignment. It
Speaker 1: all goes back to al Debron, but it goes back
Speaker 1: to this older knowledge that the Drews proactist.
Speaker 2: Well again, I think what you're describing, we see that
Speaker 2: again here today through these same bloodlines, so you know,
Speaker 2: regarding the because well again, so what when why would
Speaker 2: the Templars get come over here to this Atlantis world
Speaker 2: and get along with the folks here, because they're all
Speaker 2: God is worshiping cultures. Right, So and again we see
Speaker 2: that continuing to be emphasized here, not only through the Mickmax,
Speaker 2: through the through my forefather George Lowry down there in
Speaker 2: Cherokee Town, and you know he was friends with George
Speaker 2: Washington by the way. George Lowry, now his mother again
Speaker 2: was the reason why he was made deputy chief and
Speaker 2: his boss, John Ross, was the chief and his mother again,
Speaker 2: he was a Scotsman and his mother was Cherokee. So
Speaker 2: you know, there's a certain degree though, I think that
Speaker 2: some of these men aren't even let into the secrets.
Speaker 2: So I'll give you an example relative to the society
Speaker 2: at the moment. But John Ross, a descendant from Robert
Speaker 2: de Ross, that same Templar Knight. It was in charge
Speaker 2: of Magna Carta, the same Templar Knights, the forefather to
Speaker 2: George Washington. So we see these folks continuing to associate
Speaker 2: here in the new and the new Atlantis in America resigned.
Speaker 2: But I questioned how much even some of those men
Speaker 2: are let into the ancient secrets. And here's why. There's
Speaker 2: a major out of the New York chapter of the
Speaker 2: Society of the Cincinnati. His mother was a Mohawk. He
Speaker 2: became the chief of that of the Mohawk up there.
Speaker 2: I think again, I think it was the Mohawk. I
Speaker 2: might be misquoting which exact tribe it was, But nonetheless
Speaker 2: he was made the chief. But he was he said himself,
Speaker 2: he was not let into the tribe secrets. They had
Speaker 2: an internal order based upon based on Masonic principles, because
Speaker 2: he was a Mason as well, and he was not
Speaker 2: allowed into that because he was not pure blood within
Speaker 2: the tribe, even though they were a goddess worshiping tribe.
Speaker 2: And he's made the chief, he's still it's almost like
Speaker 2: there's it's almost like people describe today there's levels of
Speaker 2: top secret clearances above the president. Well there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, the Cheroke, he's also had an order, a
Speaker 1: Masonic order. Well it was, it.
Speaker 2: Was, and it operated the same way. But I just
Speaker 2: don't have the quotes. I don't have the quotes from
Speaker 2: those men.
Speaker 3: In the same way, when the tip Horse came over
Speaker 3: here and started communicating with these native tribes and they
Speaker 3: find out, oh they have their secret order too, they
Speaker 3: sit down and they talk and they connect over that
Speaker 3: stuff and they I think they probably trade ideas and
Speaker 3: stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And it's exactly the Micmac tribe involved with this. Like
Speaker 1: there's old Templar records that say that they were working
Speaker 1: very closely with the Micmax like that. They said that
Speaker 1: the Micmax would give us squash and beans, and we
Speaker 1: would hunt bear and deer and we would trade and
Speaker 1: like we would give, we would share, essentially, they said
Speaker 1: they would. The Templar said that when they would hunt
Speaker 1: bear and deer, they would share with the Micmax. So
Speaker 1: there was there was a working relationship over here. And
Speaker 1: who knows how far that goes back, because what I
Speaker 1: was looking for here.
Speaker 2: Is what I'm saying, sir, We don't know how far
Speaker 2: it goes back.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, they've got their symbols in here.
Speaker 2: Well, we see, we see ancient Celtic in West Virginia.
Speaker 2: This is the same bloodlines.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find this diagram anyway, I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: be able to find it. There's a diagram in the
Speaker 1: ero of the Micmac language, and you can clearly see
Speaker 1: that some of the symbols are Egyptian. So I don't
Speaker 1: mean to like, just, you know, drop a bomb.
Speaker 2: On the don't say we'reform in Egyptian. You might sound
Speaker 2: too Mormon there, sir.
Speaker 1: But there were other cultures coming over here interacting with
Speaker 1: the Native Americans.
Speaker 2: And I don't want to sound like a looney tune,
Speaker 2: but I don't think it's too when I hear these
Speaker 2: tales of Tartaria and now and again, I don't want
Speaker 2: to go into these matters too far because I've had
Speaker 2: my odds with these Tartarians over the years, because no
Speaker 2: one knowing, none of their theories incorporate the mounds. If
Speaker 2: you're not going to incorporate the ancient architecture of America
Speaker 2: and that for that matter, of the world, what are
Speaker 2: we talking about here. You don't have a complete theory,
Speaker 2: you have an incomplete theory. But I think they're onto something.
Speaker 2: I don't throw the baby out with the bathtub, even
Speaker 2: the Tartarians. No offense to you, sir, if you have
Speaker 2: any belief systems or the lesser's in the Tartaria, I
Speaker 2: just I simply don't put much. It's a it's a
Speaker 2: reincarnation of a lot of a lot of things things.
Speaker 2: What I do think is a correct there, sir. Within
Speaker 2: those theories are again they're sailing characterists I think that
Speaker 2: are responding on I think a lot of that's propaganda.
Speaker 2: If I'm gonna be quite honest, it's it's it's the it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's there's a lot of stuff within Thattari thing.
Speaker 2: I can. I can draw the same connections with Little Maria,
Speaker 2: the Theostophus and all that stuff. It goes out of
Speaker 2: Mount Shastis. But my point being there is I don't
Speaker 2: want to diminish anyone's thoughts up and begin. I could
Speaker 2: be wrong, but my point being is, we see these
Speaker 2: ancient structures that folks identify within the Tartarian theories. Tartaria theories.
Speaker 2: My apologies, the uh, I think they're onto something. So
Speaker 2: let's let's let's consider these matters of this ancient Greek system.
Speaker 2: We see that society of Cincinnati with that ancient Greek architecture,
Speaker 2: they venerate and they continue to construct, or they contend,
Speaker 2: or they they adapted because their ancestors were here and
Speaker 2: they're the ones who built that from the ancient Greek times,
Speaker 2: the same times they were built over there in the
Speaker 2: Old World. Because we're propaganda, it is under a narrative
Speaker 2: of history that we don't understand, and then we're continuing
Speaker 2: to be continue to be propaganda. Does I would argue
Speaker 2: through these theories of Tartaria, they don't incorporate the mounds,
Speaker 2: that don't consider the society of the Cincinnati, don't consider
Speaker 2: the blood lines. They go right back to the same
Speaker 2: architecture we see here today. We're appropriating into some weird
Speaker 2: culture that has a limited understanding or knowledge or even
Speaker 2: documentation of.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got thoughts on that. I don't I just
Speaker 1: don't want to go down the whole Tartarian thing. But
Speaker 1: I think I agree with what you said for the
Speaker 1: most part there. I mean, yeah, like you got to
Speaker 1: account for and in a lot of these what what
Speaker 1: I see that I do like in the Tartarian circle
Speaker 1: is well, they'll show the pictures of the buildings are
Speaker 1: sitting on top of older buried buildings. So but that
Speaker 1: goes back into like this, well, these were our cities,
Speaker 1: were here for a much longer time than they're telling us.
Speaker 1: And then they go back to this mountain builder time.
Speaker 2: There you go, and again then we start tracking the
Speaker 2: blood lines, the philosophies, the architectures, all you start, you
Speaker 2: start building a coach and site picture of all of this. Again,
Speaker 2: I'm not diminishing anyone's theories with thoughts, but you start
Speaker 2: applying actual no knows and facts there, Well, it starts
Speaker 2: to seem like there was an old culture here and
Speaker 2: it's the same bloodlines.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I gotta show you something too, man,
Speaker 1: because this, Yes, sir, I think we're getting up to
Speaker 1: like a main event here in this podcast. I want
Speaker 1: to show you something here in a second.
Speaker 2: But go ahead. Once you do that, I'll bring us
Speaker 2: back to the Lee Boys. When when you're done with
Speaker 2: that and that treasure you were talking about.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm gonna I might blow your mind with this.
Speaker 1: I might not. We'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: I'm preparing for a mind being blown here, sir. This
Speaker 2: is brand ole in preparation for being blown police continue.
Speaker 1: Yes, you might know about this, you might not.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens. Do you know about the new
Speaker 1: Mexico templar stones?
Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, there's a lot of interesting stuff into Mexico
Speaker 2: despite they're not being mounds in that state. That is
Speaker 2: a state uniquely without mounds. But we are the ones
Speaker 2: who drew borders around that state in the first place,
Speaker 2: so that should be no of note why those borders
Speaker 2: were drawn. And it's into a region specifically carving out
Speaker 2: an area that has no mounds, and again one of
Speaker 2: the two states in the Union that do not.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I think what we're what we're dealing with here,
Speaker 1: and let me point out here there's an eight pointed
Speaker 1: star of Ishtar in this thing, by the way, at
Speaker 1: the very top.
Speaker 2: Oh shit, okay, Yeph, back.
Speaker 1: To what we've talked about with the goddess thing, and
Speaker 1: then you've got the far across here. So the Rio Grande.
Speaker 1: I think that we were talking on a previous show
Speaker 1: about how uh you know, we know that the people
Speaker 1: were using the Mississippi as an ancient highway, and you
Speaker 1: and I got talking about Saint Lawrence River, and I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: Plutarch speaking of Plutarch, as far back as Pluetark, the
Speaker 1: Greeks knew that you could come over here and sell
Speaker 1: the Saint Lawrence River and get nuild into the Great Lakes.
Speaker 1: But I failed to mention the Rio Grande and that
Speaker 1: the use of that river. Because if you follow the
Speaker 1: Rio grand as far up as Albuquerque, that's where you
Speaker 1: start to see these guys, the New Mexico templar stones.
Speaker 1: So it would appear that the templars and people from
Speaker 1: the Middle East, because there are Middle Eastern symbols on
Speaker 1: these as well. We're not only coming down to Saint
Speaker 1: Lawrence River, they were also coming up from the Gulf
Speaker 1: and going up using the Rio grand And you know,
Speaker 1: these actually kind of remind me of the Great Cross
Speaker 1: of Hindi. It's a a similar type of monument that
Speaker 1: was found in Spain that's riddled with al chemical symbols.
Speaker 1: Like yeah, man, so this.
Speaker 2: Is like are you spelling this Temple Hendais?
Speaker 1: Where was in here just a temple? Wait the it's
Speaker 1: this is just a New Mexico templars.
Speaker 2: The one in the one in Spain.
Speaker 1: The Great Cross of Hindai. That's it's over there near
Speaker 1: the pier in these mountains. Man, it was a hot
Speaker 1: spot for alchemists and a cult to so and all that.
Speaker 2: But no ship, dude does look very similar in nature.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I mean this, this goes back to the
Speaker 1: Templars put that here for a reason, right, this sort
Speaker 1: of thing. And I was just I was just looking
Speaker 1: into these Pike letters, and Pike in some of these
Speaker 1: letters talks about how he went out west right and
Speaker 1: and was looking for this type of thing. Pike was
Speaker 1: a Templar from what I can tell. Albert Pike, who
Speaker 1: you know, the Freemason everybody knows. But anyway, in his letters,
Speaker 1: he's talking about New Jerusalem and New Atlantis, and it
Speaker 1: seems like he's using those two terms interchangeably. And he
Speaker 1: says that the Templars were here preparing this New Atlantis
Speaker 1: concept and he and he even brought the Mormons into it.
Speaker 1: He said that it's the same thing that Brigham Young
Speaker 1: was trying to do when Brigham Young placed his institution
Speaker 1: on the Prime meridian out there. But he says what
Speaker 1: only differences the difference between us Templars and Brigham Young
Speaker 1: is that Young wasn't clued into this the templar way,
Speaker 1: essentially like that he didn't venerate the goddess. Basically, what
Speaker 1: he was saying, he's because I've got a quote here
Speaker 1: from from Albert pikeing on these letters, he says, Young
Speaker 1: didn't understand the signs, symbols and tokens left behind by
Speaker 1: our brothers who coveted the goddess. There you go and
Speaker 1: suggests that, yes, you've got the eight pointed starves star
Speaker 1: right there. Those those signs, symbols and tokens left out west.
Speaker 1: I think is probably part of what he's talking about.
Speaker 2: Now, where they left out west? Or was this the
Speaker 2: remnants of an ancient civilization?
Speaker 1: I think this was part of the plan.
Speaker 2: But they but JJ, they could have.
Speaker 1: Put it on the grounds of an ancient civilization.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, so, if you know where your blood
Speaker 2: lines and your history goes from, and then you come
Speaker 2: over here to plot these markers and you're putting these
Speaker 2: things there, so this thing that today, this tale comes Oh,
Speaker 2: someone brought this back from the Middle East? Isn't that
Speaker 2: the prevailing narrative for this? This artifact?
Speaker 1: This is so new I'd never heard anybody talking about this.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think the prevailing narrative is, yeah, the
Speaker 2: prevailing narrative is that this was this was discovered, it
Speaker 2: was in the lobby of a hotel, and there's a
Speaker 2: there is a there is a bit of a uh
Speaker 2: you know, they know the lineage of the hotel is like, well,
Speaker 2: we got it from this ranch or this rancher said
Speaker 2: he found it in this forest, and this pictures allegedly
Speaker 2: of of that of that finding. So but today they're like,
Speaker 2: oh no, someone brought it from the Middle East and
Speaker 2: just dropped it off here. There is a narrative around
Speaker 2: this device or these artifacts of all that kind of nature, right,
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Actually, I think, yeah, the guy mentioned a personal theory
Speaker 1: that he thought maybe this had come over from Spain
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: But I think it's interesting. It is a marker, right,
Speaker 2: and if we're looking at these kind of religious marker
Speaker 2: ritual markers, right.
Speaker 1: Right. But here's the thing about that, even if it
Speaker 1: came over from the Middle East, the templars still probably
Speaker 1: made it. It just means they carved it over there
Speaker 1: and then they put it on a ship and brought
Speaker 1: it over here and used it for as some sort
Speaker 1: of a marker or whatever it should being used for.
Speaker 1: You get what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I think that's exactly what we're looking at, and that's
Speaker 2: what I'm getting in. I'll give you another example right now.
Speaker 2: So we have the Abbey of New Clavo. I think
Speaker 2: you know I discussed this previously. Do you mind if
Speaker 2: I shared this with you?
Speaker 1: No, no, let me stop sharing so you can there's
Speaker 1: a couple of these before we move from this. There's
Speaker 1: a couple of these templar stones and they have very
Speaker 1: similar depictions, but some varying depictions on them.
Speaker 2: But anyways, well, well that's what I was getting at though.
Speaker 2: Also so if you're the templars and you know, you're
Speaker 2: this ancient history that I was saying, like that Laplongin Fellow,
Speaker 2: that that society the Cincinnati guy was tracking the after
Speaker 2: he did all the mound surveys, that's what he was tracking.
Speaker 2: That was his mission for the next thirty years. Really
Speaker 2: and again, this is them tracing their blood lines. So
Speaker 2: if you're tracing your blood lines that area, and they're
Speaker 2: tracking sites that their their previous ancestors had marked, whether
Speaker 2: it's the Kensington Roun Stone, whether it's the Newport Temple
Speaker 2: or Rhode Island Tower. You know these are all then
Speaker 2: only are they serve all these things serve multiple purposes
Speaker 2: in the end, you see you see their multi fasted use.
Speaker 2: But again that we said with the mounts, they serve
Speaker 2: multi fasted uses as well.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, and the Lost Lunas Decalogue Stone.
Speaker 2: So that's what I was going to get to you next,
Speaker 2: is right by the Lost Lunis Decalog stone was located.
Speaker 1: Okay, it is, And we're on the same patent because
Speaker 1: you get here's the Gulf of Mexico right and you
Speaker 1: come up into you go up the Rio Graham and
Speaker 1: right right around New Albuquerque on one side of the
Speaker 1: river you found these templars stones. On the other side
Speaker 1: of the river you have the Lost Luna Decalogue Stone,
Speaker 1: which features lines of different languages Canaanite, Phoenician, Hebrew, Etruscan, Crylic. Personally,
Speaker 1: I think that part of what happened there is that
Speaker 1: the Phoenicians traded, did so much business with everyone that
Speaker 1: they spoke all those different languages.
Speaker 2: For sure, dude, it's not again, it's not we're getting
Speaker 2: I don't want to get wrapped up in the Phoenicians.
Speaker 2: To this Phoenicians that it's the goddess worshiping bloodlines of
Speaker 2: these cultures, and they work together, and they continue to
Speaker 2: work together. So when we see them Phoenicians are going
Speaker 2: to adapt to the principles of their other.
Speaker 1: Well, they're maps from the Phoenicians. It's it's all connected.
Speaker 2: It's all bloodlines, it's all blood lines, it's all blue lines.
Speaker 2: And again we see Phoenician burials within these mounds, we
Speaker 2: see ancient we see ancient Hittite script within these mounds.
Speaker 2: Ancient Hittite script like used near and around that area
Speaker 2: of Turkey where the Templar started with the First Crusade occurred,
Speaker 2: where the ancient Kingdom of Odessa was, where I've tracked
Speaker 2: the ancestry of Lucius Quintus Cincinnatus, the Greek, ancient Greek
Speaker 2: fellow of ancient Greek characters there with his ancestry a
Speaker 2: Roman citizen to the ancient Kingdom of Odessa with King
Speaker 2: Akbar is. This Akbar, who would be the other Jesus,
Speaker 2: listened in the War of the Jews, and according to
Speaker 2: both Cephis, I'm sorry, my apologies, that's sank Junior Josephus
Speaker 2: War of the Jews and uh and uh the you know,
Speaker 2: So what I'm saying is there's a lot of things
Speaker 2: that we have known knowns about and again that the
Speaker 2: no nons with the Temple Oar families is that's who
Speaker 2: there Jesus is. That is this acbar fella. And again
Speaker 2: there's interactions and correlations with that with A Quintus, Lucius,
Speaker 2: Quintus Cincinnatis till have you looked back far enough to
Speaker 2: the same same geographical areas. So when we were talking
Speaker 2: about these groups, I'm just saying that we should. You know,
Speaker 2: it is the Phoenicians, there are elements of that other
Speaker 2: there's elements that you know, all these different cultures. Are
Speaker 2: the Celts, right, Yeah, there is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably a boy. It's probably a bloodline thing.
Speaker 1: It's you know, secret societies. They knew about the they
Speaker 1: knew about New America or North America New Atlantis, and
Speaker 1: they had all these different New New Atlantis type phrases
Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, they seem to have been in
Speaker 1: on a secret about these lands over here and had
Speaker 1: these plans for them. And yeah, and you're right, like
Speaker 1: we don't have to get hung up on Phoenicians, but
Speaker 1: I'm seeing that too, like I'm seeing Phoenician stuff in
Speaker 1: burial mounds here in Tennessee, and yeah, and all kinds
Speaker 1: of wild stuff. And my point, my point more is
Speaker 1: like how they're using these river systems right and to
Speaker 1: travel how they were used because here's here's another one.
Speaker 1: I got to throw this up here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't, I please do, because I can't figure
Speaker 2: out to share on I'm not uttered it is on zoom. Okay,
Speaker 2: go ahead, sir.
Speaker 1: Well we'll try that next. So this is something Fritz
Speaker 1: Zimmern posted. Shout out to him. He's been on the
Speaker 1: show before.
Speaker 2: Oh nice. I like his work, dude, he's done some
Speaker 2: good mound stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, look at this article here about these canals because
Speaker 1: they were coming up. Let me set this up. The
Speaker 1: ancient people were coming up these rivers, right. You have
Speaker 1: Saint Louis to ancient city we call Kahokia on the
Speaker 1: border of Misery or Missouri.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you're bringing this up because this tie is
Speaker 2: right into my next point that I'm not sure yank you, sir.
Speaker 2: You're in my brain hole again. Tim. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I like it, but I like your style though.
Speaker 1: Well, well, Fritz posted this really cool article about the
Speaker 1: canals they found in Missouri. Right, yeah, not too far
Speaker 1: from Kahokia. Right. So it says, seventy miles of ancient
Speaker 1: Babylonian amriight giants canals are described in Missouri. Doctor GC Swallow,
Speaker 1: while at the head of geological survey, called attention to
Speaker 1: them and described one which was fifty feet wide and
Speaker 1: twelve feet deep. There can be no doubt that the
Speaker 1: ancient inhabitants had constructed, with a skill which would not
Speaker 1: do no discredit to our own engineers, a system of
Speaker 1: connecting canals which must have been necessitated by an extended
Speaker 1: internal trade by which required boats of respectable dimensions. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they could tell. That's a guy from the eighteen seventy,
Speaker 1: eighteen seventies talking there, Like, I think we would find
Speaker 1: the means to right modern, is it right? Right? But
Speaker 1: this is from, you know, in one of these history
Speaker 1: of Missouri books. So but anyway, look, look, I mean canals, right,
Speaker 1: another crazy faction or factor of our ancient world canals
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: Well, and that same reason we're gonna I'm gonna talk
Speaker 2: about Cochine one moment. Let's look up nearby Cokio, when
Speaker 2: the Society of the Cincinnati all the way down to
Speaker 2: Saint Louis named after King Louis the sixteenth the or whatever,
Speaker 2: from the one who sanctioned the French chapter. You know,
Speaker 2: that's why we have Marietta, Ohio, a mound city founded
Speaker 2: and designed by General Arthur Saint Clair of the Rosland.
Speaker 2: Saint Clair's the last executive of the Continental Congress, before
Speaker 2: the last executive officer, the President, if you will, before
Speaker 2: George Washington, a very close confidante in the soci of
Speaker 2: George Washington. He put in charge of the Northwest Territory.
Speaker 2: In that Northwest Territory expansion, we see all of this
Speaker 2: area around Kahokia being named after ancient Egyptian city is
Speaker 2: only done to Memphis.
Speaker 1: Indeed, indeed, yeah, you come, that's.
Speaker 2: A society that did that. That's the society that is
Speaker 2: these bloodlines that did that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you come up the Mississippi and where. There's so
Speaker 1: many examples of this, dude, I don't know where to start.
Speaker 1: One that came to mind is when you where the
Speaker 1: Ohio branches off the Mississippi, like you're heading towards Evansville,
Speaker 1: which where which was an ancient city by the way
Speaker 1: as well, it's called they call it Angel today. There
Speaker 1: was a city there. They call it Angel, but it's
Speaker 1: right there in Evansville. But anyway, right where the Ohio
Speaker 1: splits off, you've got a little place there still on
Speaker 1: the map today called Joppa, right before you get in Evansville.
Speaker 1: Joppa is the ancient port of Israel. Why why do
Speaker 1: we have that title here? Right? It's because these people,
Speaker 1: and I think they speaking of another branch off the Mississippi.
Speaker 1: You've got the Arkansas River right branches off Cadas goes
Speaker 1: up as far as des Moines, Iowa. I'm pretty sure
Speaker 1: that they were traveling that too. They went up probably
Speaker 1: as far as they could where because right where des
Speaker 1: Moines is there's a waterfall after that, so they probably
Speaker 1: couldn't get the ships past that, but they probably settled
Speaker 1: the areas that will become Des Moines. Right and right now,
Speaker 1: there's a dam there called Red Rocks Dam, and there
Speaker 1: are six towns underneath that artificial man made lake. So
Speaker 1: I have to ask the question what else is under
Speaker 1: that lake?
Speaker 2: Every I just yeah, I like where you're at, sir. Again,
Speaker 2: we've been burying all these thes there's a lot of
Speaker 2: evidence has been buried, like you're saying the idea that
Speaker 2: none of the no one traveled the waters of ancient past.
Speaker 2: And again it is these bloodlines and we see it
Speaker 2: again from the ancient mound builders who knew that had
Speaker 2: a great understanding of astronomy and mathematics to build serpent Mound,
Speaker 2: this thirteen hundred on the nearly four meter mound. This,
Speaker 2: I would arguse a sperm and egg, not a snake
Speaker 2: and the sun, but it used to have a giant
Speaker 2: dick statue in that sun, by the way, an opolisk.
Speaker 2: But this mound, I would argue, ase a sperm in
Speaker 2: an egg depicts the has it. It's a representation of
Speaker 2: the creation of life and is a calendar of sustaining
Speaker 2: that life because it reads everything in the night sky
Speaker 2: and you know from the sun, the moon cycles, the
Speaker 2: changes of the seasons, the equinoxes, et cetera. So using
Speaker 2: logic and reason, when we're talking about God is worshiping
Speaker 2: sex cults, that ain't a snake in a fucking sun.
Speaker 2: That's a sperm in an egg. And that's why they
Speaker 2: put a giant dick statue in the sun. And that
Speaker 2: that egg. But anyhow, we have three seven foot giants
Speaker 2: found in the Dina Mounts right by. They're well documented
Speaker 2: on that same site. So again, so we're seeing that
Speaker 2: these culture that I said, if that's the of those giants,
Speaker 2: are the folks that are the ancestors of the Templars
Speaker 2: and the Society Cincinnati. And they've passed down this advanced
Speaker 2: understanding of mathematics and astronomy. Well, they've always been sailing.
Speaker 2: That's how you sail.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2: You navigate by the night, the night sky. So these
Speaker 2: people understood that every long time. So they're all over
Speaker 2: the place. That's why we see temple ourself in go
Speaker 2: to India, Matta Gascar and I would argue the Samurai
Speaker 2: people of Japan, the Anu specifically the I new ethnic group,
Speaker 2: are descendants to the same people. Yeah, you have red haired,
Speaker 2: red beard, blue eyed expert swordsmen on assaults on horses
Speaker 2: in the twelfth century or thirteenth century, you know, in
Speaker 2: northern Japan and northern Europe. Come man, this is again,
Speaker 2: this is the propaganda. I'm not saying you. I'm just
Speaker 2: saying these are the propaganda's things. We're under you know that,
Speaker 2: let's use some logic and reason. These folks have been
Speaker 2: navigating the world forever and again, they've been sanctioned forever.
Speaker 1: And I've said it before on here, I'll say it again.
Speaker 1: The three thousand, five hundred year old I think it
Speaker 1: was three thy five hundred year old Canaanite shipwreck that
Speaker 1: was found recent In recent days, the Canaanites were coming
Speaker 1: over here. That's why I think we can look at
Speaker 1: something like the Lost Luna's Decalogue Stone and see the
Speaker 1: remnants of those people. But here's the deal with fitting
Speaker 1: the templars back then, real quick like those templars got
Speaker 1: their match from somebody, including Columbus. And I'm thinking about
Speaker 1: Friday the thirteenth, thirteen oh seven. Templars had sixteen ships
Speaker 1: in Rochelle Harbor, France, ready to roll. They knew the
Speaker 1: hammer was about to come down on them. They knew
Speaker 1: that they were going to be further oppressed. They knew
Speaker 1: King Philip the Fair was going to come for him,
Speaker 1: and they had the ships ready to go. So that's
Speaker 1: what they did. They didn't just cease to be right.
Speaker 1: They weren't history us. This group was was totally stomped out.
Speaker 1: It wasn't in thirteen fifty and I know you knew that.
Speaker 1: But in thirteen fifteen they were not completely wiped out.
Speaker 1: They went all over the place, including here, and some
Speaker 1: even hit out in the King's Cave in Scotland and
Speaker 1: left goddess symbols on the cave walls and all that.
Speaker 1: It was right on the question. So they were they
Speaker 1: were waiting for a ride, right like they dispersed, But
Speaker 1: the game wasn't. It wasn't game over for the Templars.
Speaker 1: They just dispersed, and we can see places like King's
Speaker 1: co where they hit out and waited for a ride,
Speaker 1: probably to the New world.
Speaker 2: Right, So well, the new world does the old world
Speaker 2: to them?
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. When you're on the run from tyranny and
Speaker 1: from uh dogmatic religious institutions, North America is your place.
Speaker 2: Let me let me ask you this though again, because
Speaker 2: we're looking. I want to I want to your spot on.
Speaker 2: I just want to expand your scope a little bit.
Speaker 2: So they were ready for these to be sanctioned. They
Speaker 2: were ready because their ancestors were sanctioned. Be it the Cathars, right,
Speaker 2: be it the you know, you go back to the
Speaker 2: we can call them the lost tribes. That's why we
Speaker 2: see on the back creek stone out of a mound
Speaker 2: in Cherokee Country in Tennessee. There for the people of
Speaker 2: Judaea is inscribed in first century AD hebrew buried in
Speaker 2: a stone, an official dig by the Sithsonian, and the
Speaker 2: Cherokee had a sue to get it back.
Speaker 1: See, that's almost a different show in my mind, because
Speaker 1: the Hebrews were definitely here.
Speaker 2: I know that same bloodlines there, same bloodlines. You think Hebrews.
Speaker 2: When you're saying Hebrews, you're thinking Rabbinical Hebrew Judaism, and
Speaker 2: that was invented by the modern day Vatican Roman Empire.
Speaker 2: So if we want to say Hebrews and the Knights
Speaker 2: Temple are bloodlines. As I said before, that ancient Kingdom
Speaker 2: of Odessa was the goddess worshiping sanctioned royal blood lines
Speaker 2: of Persians and of the Judeo Egyptian faith. The pre
Speaker 2: rabbinical Judaeo Egyptian faith included Zoroastrianism and what we would
Speaker 2: a lot of call astrological aspects and some pre rabbinical
Speaker 2: Judaism Judaism. So we see those are the Hebrews I'm
Speaker 2: talking about, sir.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think that there was some non bloodline,
Speaker 1: non templar Hebrews that were over here as well.
Speaker 2: Personally, that I have no doubt of. That I have
Speaker 2: no doubt of. But when we're talking about the mound building,
Speaker 2: bloodline cultures that we're describing and the folks who left
Speaker 2: these artifacts, the folks that built that honic amound, I
Speaker 2: just did the anatomy of a mound cover up the
Speaker 2: night here on Operation GCD Sundays, specifically talking about all
Speaker 2: of the count cover up and factors involved in the
Speaker 2: cover ups and the groups involved, but also focusing on
Speaker 2: the Honnic Amount, which is a mound that I personally
Speaker 2: located based upon the maps of the Society of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: despite some elements of the NSA telling me it's located otherwise.
Speaker 2: That's a different story altogether. Wisness involved, right, I would
Speaker 2: argue these same bloodline fans always use Freemasonry or whatever
Speaker 2: other form of secrecy they can, and whatever manifestation of
Speaker 2: these secret orders they can be it a unintelligent agency
Speaker 2: like the NSA or otherwise or the Freemasons to operate
Speaker 2: or avail a secrecy to accomplish their goals. That's all
Speaker 2: we're looking at there. But there are elements of individuals
Speaker 2: I've communicated with who published an article saying they found
Speaker 2: the Hontic Commount in a location. It's not where it's
Speaker 2: app Again, I asked them they read the map, and
Speaker 2: they refuse to answer that question. They kept telling me
Speaker 2: they have all this you know, data, and they got
Speaker 2: their NSA and they got you know in technology, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's cool, dude, I have a map from
Speaker 2: eighteen oh three. To read that map, and then they
Speaker 2: never did. But my point being there is we see
Speaker 2: evidence of all this Hebrew, ancient Hebrew culture here in America.
Speaker 2: So I have no doubt that the other ones here,
Speaker 2: but yes, I want to build these mounds are the
Speaker 2: same bloodlines.
Speaker 1: I think that this was this place just throughout history
Speaker 1: just served as this magnet for people who were being
Speaker 1: oppressed in general. I'm focusing on the templar part of
Speaker 1: this today because it gets overlooked and it's and its history,
Speaker 1: so like we need to put it out there as such.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: But again, like when you're on the run for tyranny
Speaker 1: from dogmatic religious institutions and tyrannical governments and and all
Speaker 1: that stuff. That this I'm repeating myself here because I
Speaker 1: think there analy is a very important message for us
Speaker 1: here today living in this country. That is, we need
Speaker 1: to keep this place the wild wild West. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a reason why this works. We're going down this
Speaker 1: road right now where we're bringing in too many rules.
Speaker 1: There's there's too many factions of government and big corporations
Speaker 1: and just establishments that are trying to take over right now,
Speaker 1: whether us sir, yes, but this this is a refuge
Speaker 1: for people who don't like to live under these rules.
Speaker 1: That it's always been that way and we got to
Speaker 1: keep it that way. This is this is the wild
Speaker 1: wild West. It was the wild wild West before he
Speaker 1: even became the Old West, so before there were shootouts
Speaker 1: and all that, it was just just that kind of
Speaker 1: a place.
Speaker 2: You're right, it's and now there's been misinterpretations this ever time.
Speaker 2: And my understanding the Algonquin people the nations in which
Speaker 2: we were really America was formed upon through a ceremony
Speaker 2: on our ritual on the on the banks of the
Speaker 2: Scuogl River with William penn in Pennsylvania and Philadelphia and
Speaker 2: the Gonquin chief, you know, officially hands over this land
Speaker 2: to William Penn. And there's a there's a small Dick statue.
Speaker 2: It's a giant Dick's statue, but it's a smaller version.
Speaker 2: There today a novelisk on a mound in Penn Park
Speaker 2: where the ceremony occurred, as ritual occurred. But it's my
Speaker 2: understanding that is the terms of which Algonquin comes from.
Speaker 2: It is essentially the refugees of other nations. It's the
Speaker 2: gatherings of of of of all these of all these refugees.
Speaker 2: So and that is that is the nature of American Again,
Speaker 2: this is the Atlanta. So can you find me an
Speaker 2: other nation even as we've drawn the lines today that
Speaker 2: has the same resources. Be it animals, be it natural resources,
Speaker 2: be it lives, you know, whatever, be it the ability
Speaker 2: to have a waterways and again well the environments to
Speaker 2: have livestock. You haven't need to have water right to
Speaker 2: perpetrate life in livestock or human varieties. So you're gonna
Speaker 2: need some some some liquids, some waters there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the roads and the waterways to trade and to
Speaker 1: travel and to build an economy. We built this economy
Speaker 1: off of these rivers that we're talking about.
Speaker 2: Today precisely so people are looking for Atlantis were on it, yeah, I.
Speaker 1: Mean yeah, I mean there's a reason why it's been
Speaker 1: talked about in the shadowy world of initiates like Francis
Speaker 1: Bacon for so long. I mean, they knew about this place,
Speaker 1: and they knew that what the potential it held. And
Speaker 1: I think that's why they set a bunch of templars
Speaker 1: in here and found this thing. And to begin with.
Speaker 2: Well again there they're just regaining their own property magnet
Speaker 2: Carta style. Like King John gave away all the templars
Speaker 2: land back to the Vatican in twelve thirteen be edict
Speaker 2: by after kidnapping a knight of Clan Vance and then
Speaker 2: signing that edict in a knight's templar abbey in France.
Speaker 2: King John did of Robinhood fame. This is the story
Speaker 2: of Robinhood. They come back, all their land have been
Speaker 2: given to the Vatican. They fight for back. That's what
Speaker 2: this fight is. When they're starting the new Atlantis, it's
Speaker 2: again it's fighting for their old landback. It's fighting for
Speaker 2: their rights and liberty back. The same way George Washington's
Speaker 2: for ten of his forefathers did is fourteenth through seventeenth
Speaker 2: great grandfathers ten Knights of the Magna Carta, those twenty
Speaker 2: five quote unquote robber barons, as our modern day historians
Speaker 2: call them the Templar Knights. There they were regaining their
Speaker 2: property in liberty and rights the way George Washington, their
Speaker 2: descendant was five hundred plus years later, within the same bloodlines,
Speaker 2: in the same feuds over the same time. And this
Speaker 2: is all about the resources and valuable resources they're in
Speaker 2: that the families have controlled here in the Atlantis or
Speaker 2: they want to call them new it's against it's the
Speaker 2: same place. We just want to against the propagandi's aspects
Speaker 2: of this. This stuff's always been with these blood lines,
Speaker 2: and there's always been a fight for it.
Speaker 1: And I want to add something too. In the thirteen
Speaker 1: hundreds there where history would tell us that these guys
Speaker 1: were stomped out. I think I forgot to mention this.
Speaker 1: Some of them went to Portugal, which I've you know,
Speaker 1: if you break down that name, it seems like it
Speaker 1: could mean port you Grell. I've heard that breakdown, like
Speaker 1: some say that Portugal come from port of the Grail,
Speaker 1: like that was the original title.
Speaker 2: Sure, No, Portugal, Spain exactly. They comprise a lot of
Speaker 2: these places. They went mobile.
Speaker 1: Oh and so it was thirteen fifteen. It was a
Speaker 1: Portuguese prince who sort of revived, if you will, the templars.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, some of them went all
Speaker 1: over the place, including came here. But also a Portuguese
Speaker 1: king decided he was going to start up an order
Speaker 1: there in Portugal. Well, that's the family that Columbus married into. Yes,
Speaker 1: that's how he got the maps to come over here
Speaker 1: in the.
Speaker 2: First precisely, and Columbus after that marriage, Columbus started using
Speaker 2: the hooktex and his signature.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, indeed. And I would suggest that I would
Speaker 1: suggest that the tradition, I think he was the last
Speaker 1: lawn line, the last of a long line. I'll put
Speaker 1: it that way. He was the last. Columbus was the
Speaker 1: last of a long line of Mediterranean seat favs.
Speaker 2: Well, don't don't rule out Hernando deel Soto, who was
Speaker 2: born in the city of the Temple and has that
Speaker 2: same templar heritage through Spain. So again, when we're looking
Speaker 2: at the dispersion of these events after they were put
Speaker 2: down the map.
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm talking about the maps though, JJ, like,
Speaker 1: that's de Soto. I think just did what Columbus did, right,
Speaker 1: He just got his ideas and his routes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but de Soto went Lewis and Clark styles are
Speaker 2: all across the South, and he inventured into mounds and giants.
Speaker 1: Oh, I know, bro, I got I got the But what.
Speaker 2: Else did he get into? And where did Lewis and
Speaker 2: Clark get those maps from? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, DeSoto named Appalachia Appleachia. Well, he didn't name it,
Speaker 1: but it was the people.
Speaker 2: That's each what I'm saying, Dude, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And we see these things getting passed down through these
Speaker 2: same organizational bloodline aspects of these secretorizations. And we see
Speaker 2: that here, this is the Abbey of New Clairvo. So
Speaker 2: when the Mormons the offshoot of the Society of the Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: and they're folks, they're in when they started the state
Speaker 2: of California from the Spanish, they're the templar aspects they're in.
Speaker 2: We see the folks like Leland Stanford in these bloodlines.
Speaker 2: And the initial site there on his farmland is today
Speaker 2: sits a Cistercian order of monks. The Cistercians are who
Speaker 2: found the templar and the Robin Hotel. That is Friar Tuck.
Speaker 2: He's a Cistertian beer brewing monk, right. They are the
Speaker 2: Trappist monastery monks who make beer. This one is specifically
Speaker 2: brews beer with a local Sierra Nevada brewery out of Chico.
Speaker 2: But this site just outside of Chico. They moved a
Speaker 2: thirteenth century Knights templar religious house to this site and
Speaker 2: started by doing Leland Stanford started the process of hundred
Speaker 2: years ago. Is that they finished it more recently and
Speaker 2: it's now constructed. It's an eight hundred year old meeting
Speaker 2: house of the Assertion Monastery of Santa Maria dale Ovila.
Speaker 2: And this was a I'm sorry Hearst was also involved
Speaker 2: in one point in time. Again it's you know, these
Speaker 2: are efforts to go over time. But this this thing
Speaker 2: has been constructed now today. I've been there, it's I've
Speaker 2: sinc it's was originally over in Spain, so at a
Speaker 2: templar meeting house over there. So we see them putting
Speaker 2: putting these things here. So these same monks of this
Speaker 2: same order traversed America. To get out west by virtue
Speaker 2: of going through Cohokia. They're the same lineage of these monks.
Speaker 2: These same monks are the names saying for Monks Mound
Speaker 2: to Cookia. They lived there on the top of Monks Mound,
Speaker 2: the largest mound in Koki, Illinois, for forty years I'm
Speaker 2: sorry nearly forty years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Goes back to old maps, man like cu To Paines
Speaker 1: and Godfree to say Omar. They collected old maps from
Speaker 1: Egypt and I think Phoenicia, and that's part of what
Speaker 1: they were doing in Constantinople. They were getting these maps
Speaker 1: together and they were comparing them to get a clearer
Speaker 1: picture of the lay of the land literally on how
Speaker 1: to better ways to travel over here and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: And you know, I think that what some of those
Speaker 1: maps that Heuti, Panes and Godfrey were looking at, their
Speaker 1: whole intention was to do with the American lands. And
Speaker 1: this was an early eleven hundred a d like early
Speaker 1: eleven hundred for sure.
Speaker 2: And we see he again is the operational headquarters, right,
Speaker 2: so we see the administrative headquarters of the Knights Temple
Speaker 2: are beginning out of the Council of Clermont as in
Speaker 2: Clermont County, Ohio, which is the neighboring county to the
Speaker 2: City of Cincinnati, the city of the operational headquarters of
Speaker 2: the Society of the Cincinnati, the new city of Rome,
Speaker 2: the city of seven Hills, and one of those seven
Speaker 2: hills was renamed Eden Park, and it faces to the east.
Speaker 2: Because of the turn of the century. Last century, there
Speaker 2: was a convention of men of the cloth, of various
Speaker 2: Protestant and maybe even a couple of Catholic guys, I
Speaker 2: don't remember. They convened to try to decide where was
Speaker 2: the most probable location of the physical garden of Eden,
Speaker 2: and they decided the most probable location was Clarmont County, Ohio.
Speaker 2: So the folks of there in Hamilton County, Cincinnati renamed
Speaker 2: one of those hills Eton Park because it faces to
Speaker 2: the east. But speaking to the resources of the mound
Speaker 2: in the ancient history thereof and the Templar interest, so
Speaker 2: it was a French explorer of Templar ancestry and of
Speaker 2: these same bloodlines that names it Claremont in the sixteen hundreds,
Speaker 2: so in the Society kept that name, and I think
Speaker 2: that's important to note, and all those names that reside
Speaker 2: within this area are very important to note as well
Speaker 2: in the fact that the future French king who lived
Speaker 2: in exile from seventeen ninety four till eighteen thirty, King
Speaker 2: Louis Fleet number one, the Bourbon Restoration, was hiding out
Speaker 2: in Clarmont County. So we see a lot of these
Speaker 2: old ancient templar interest again with these same bloodlines, yeah,
Speaker 2: in the New World, including moving sites to California through
Speaker 2: the same literally the same order of monks that are
Speaker 2: naming monks mount in the sixteen hundreds, and this is monks,
Speaker 2: that's who Bernard de Clervo. The Abbey of New Clavo
Speaker 2: there in California is named after Bernard de Clervaux, who
Speaker 2: was the cleric Cistercian monk who forms the templars at
Speaker 2: the Council of Clermont. What's also important to note there
Speaker 2: is the treasurer, his treasure that he would appoint and
Speaker 2: that in these matters right to start the templars, there
Speaker 2: was the guy who was in charge of the Notre
Speaker 2: Dame Cathedral, the same one they built them like precisely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, in the end, and some of these early templars
Speaker 1: got the contracts to build the masonry contracts to build
Speaker 1: the goth Of cathedrals all across Spain in France, and
Speaker 1: that's why you see all these alchemical symbols on the
Speaker 1: walls of all these cathedrals. Absolutely, because I mean I
Speaker 1: think that Benard and Clairvat was secretly a practicing druid
Speaker 1: of some sort. Yes, they are, rightly exactly, and he was.
Speaker 1: He was best friends with the cabalistic rabbi dude, so
Speaker 1: that was it was all about. They were all about
Speaker 1: the occultic information and the alchemy and everything else came
Speaker 1: out all this later, of course, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like, I think you're spot on again.
Speaker 2: These are just manifestations of the same organizations and bloodlines.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, Yeah, yeah, you know it's funny, man, Like
Speaker 1: I used to play music with this guy and his
Speaker 1: last thing was Godfrey, and like I was hanging out
Speaker 1: with him once and I asked him about it. I'm like, so,
Speaker 1: where where did your last name come from? And he
Speaker 1: was like, well, we I have way back in my family.
Speaker 1: We had nights in my family and he was like,
Speaker 1: some of them were said to be knights templar, and
Speaker 1: I was like, I thought it was so dumb When
Speaker 1: he told me, I'm like, there's no way like this
Speaker 1: guy's just like he.
Speaker 2: Was funny man. That sounds like National Treasure three. You're
Speaker 2: telling me, Tim, this is what are you writing a movie?
Speaker 1: He this guy was like, had full sleeves of tatoes
Speaker 1: before it was popular, and drove around a muscle car.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking Knights, Templars and his family. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: right well now now that I'm thinking about it, his
Speaker 1: last name was Godfrey for a reason, right, Godfrey's the
Speaker 1: Saint Omar. Maybe Templars.
Speaker 2: You think this is crazy. I know a fella. He
Speaker 2: was a descendant from the first free Mason that came
Speaker 2: into France. He introduced Freemason were to France, I think
Speaker 2: in the seventeen twenties or so. Their name was Andrew Ramsey.
Speaker 2: My dude's also named Andrew Ramsey. And Andrew Ramsey was
Speaker 2: also famously known to be friends with Sir Isaac Newton
Speaker 2: and Alexander Pope. You may know those names from the
Speaker 2: Da Vinci Code because these three members were all allegedly
Speaker 2: part of the Priory Scion, the secret society that protects
Speaker 2: the descendants of Jesus and Mary of the Knights Sun
Speaker 2: part ascendants. So you know, if you want to look
Speaker 2: for evidence of these people getting involved in folks lives,
Speaker 2: So I'm descending from documented on at least it seems
Speaker 2: by all parent documentation nineteen of the twenty five Magnet
Speaker 2: carta Knight's templar as a result of my son in
Speaker 2: my marriage there my son's mother. I mean, he's now
Speaker 2: descendant of twenty four of the twenty five. It seems.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is, it's not surprised me to find
Speaker 2: somebody named Andrew Ramsey descended from the Andrew Ramsey's part
Speaker 2: of the Priory sign allegedly deeply involved in bringing Freemasonry
Speaker 2: to France. And this man's got a giant Flord to
Speaker 2: Lee tattoo across his chest. My friend, that is you know,
Speaker 2: it's not surprised me that someone like that would insert
Speaker 2: himself into my life, considering the facts I would later
Speaker 2: find out regarding my heritage. You want to look for
Speaker 2: exhibiting of infinite I say, whenever I talk about any
Speaker 2: of these matters, like I'm talking about old shit house,
Speaker 2: irrelevant today, Well it sounds relevant today. An I have
Speaker 2: a descendant from the man who's allegedly part of the
Speaker 2: Priory Scion who inserts himself into my life very aggressively
Speaker 2: by by you know, he's in the air were served together.
Speaker 2: We're in the Air Force, not a cop. But he
Speaker 2: started becoming friends with all my friends after this got
Speaker 2: you know, I accepted it. We were friends. We're along.
Speaker 2: I have not associated them in the years. Get a
Speaker 2: weird response to a lot of things. But one of
Speaker 2: the first times I met him, we're uh, I call
Speaker 2: him garbage can dude invasions, my garbage can dudes. And
Speaker 2: I would like to go to various areas and when
Speaker 2: we party a lot, we also you know, like check
Speaker 2: taking the history and rout in Lake Havisu And I'm
Speaker 2: obviously you know, it's lake habit so you can do
Speaker 2: some sun and beach time out there in Arizona. But
Speaker 2: we're taking some of these more ancient sits out there
Speaker 2: as well. But dude around the beach, dudes. Got I
Speaker 2: just met the dude friend of a friend. At this point,
Speaker 2: he's got a big Florida Lee tattoo on his chest.
Speaker 2: So I'm introducing, you know, I'm trying to um up
Speaker 2: with some ladies, you know, I'm married, but I'm obviously
Speaker 2: going to play wing man for my dude's there and
Speaker 2: introduced them some ladies there on the beach, and I'm
Speaker 2: telling him he's the number one New Orleans Saints fan.
Speaker 2: And he immediately was getting butt hurt about that, and
Speaker 2: I said, dude, it's he like pulled me aside. Later
Speaker 2: he's like, it's not a New Orleans Saints something I do.
Speaker 2: It's a joke, dude. So he immediately gives me, he
Speaker 2: immediately gets butt her and gives me a fucking talking
Speaker 2: to about how it's the Florida Lee and everything else
Speaker 2: like that. I'm like, all right, dude, well let's take
Speaker 2: it down and not just their buddy, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. But you know, years later I put where
Speaker 2: did the context?
Speaker 1: Where did the where did the city of New Orleans
Speaker 1: get the symbol in the first place?
Speaker 2: Right? French Society, French Society of Cincinnati. There you go.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. So these things are relevant
Speaker 2: still today. That if I have a descendant of Andrew
Speaker 2: Ramsey named Andrew Ramsey who has the giant Florida Lee tattoo,
Speaker 2: the symbol of the priory scion, who Andrew, the original
Speaker 2: Andrew Ramsey was allegedly part of. And there's the Vinci tales,
Speaker 2: right and you know, you know they were retold to
Speaker 2: Dan Brown stole those tales tails.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: That's because everyone writes it. Again, people, these things are
Speaker 2: put in movies that discredit them. And Dan Brown stole
Speaker 2: those ideas from somebody else. He did not develop any
Speaker 2: of that narrative storyline. He would be bastardized it. But again,
Speaker 2: these are I think these are real things. I think
Speaker 2: they are relevant because again I have evid into my
Speaker 2: own life than being relevant. Right. So, and when you
Speaker 2: when you pointed that Temple for stuff out to me
Speaker 2: about the the Roberty Lee stuff, Man, I've been so
Speaker 2: far down the Lee Boys rabbit hole these days, it's
Speaker 2: it's crazy. And when you brought that up to me,
Speaker 2: it was like, I was like, damn, dude, do you
Speaker 2: my brain hold him? Because even and ever since then,
Speaker 2: I've been even more so down that. But we're talking
Speaker 2: about these ancient treasures and these blood lines. What's one
Speaker 2: of the most infamous tales about the Confederate the Confederate
Speaker 2: War in the Civil War, that was the Confederate Army
Speaker 2: the goal right, the gold right, and who. And look
Speaker 2: at the two main figures. Robert E. Lee Society of Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: his father, founding the least one of the signatories of
Speaker 2: the US Constitution, his grandfather. We also have Jefferson Davis,
Speaker 2: his father, original member of the Society of the Cincinnati,
Speaker 2: So we're looking at the same blood lines. We're looking
Speaker 2: at a division within the Society of the Cincinnati which
Speaker 2: created the Civil War. The South Carolina chap after quit
Speaker 2: in April of eighteen sixty it's by no coincidence that
Speaker 2: the war starts in April of eighteen sixty one in Charleston,
Speaker 2: South Carolina. So you'll see all these things matter.
Speaker 1: An old star and ancient star fork nonetheless.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Charleston because they're they're taking up shopping their ancestors,
Speaker 2: right and same as like Fort Taekwonder Rogan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's that's what I was going to ask
Speaker 1: you about next. Actually Fort Taekwonda Roga was that place.
Speaker 2: I got some interesting thoughts on that place.
Speaker 1: Well, let's let's shift to that region of the country.
Speaker 1: Because this I was all alive with you, I was
Speaker 1: on your show.
Speaker 2: And I was probably there.
Speaker 1: We start talking about that Saint Lawrence River, and how
Speaker 1: these guys were coming down the Saint Lawrence River and
Speaker 1: they were coming down and branching off on the was
Speaker 1: it the rest Shalou River. There's a river off the
Speaker 1: Saint Lawrence that comes down into New York State.
Speaker 2: I think it's called the I don't remember the name
Speaker 2: of it. I'm looking it up right now. Their Well
Speaker 2: that sounds right though.
Speaker 1: That's the river that used to connect to the Hudson River,
Speaker 1: I think right. But anyway, that's so, there's an you know,
Speaker 1: Scott Walter has this old document They're called the Coromona
Speaker 1: Document because it comes out of Cromona, Italy. It describes
Speaker 1: a place off the Reschalou River called the Temple of
Speaker 1: the Goddess. Right, there was an old ancient temple over
Speaker 1: here up in the Caskills. Some of those documents say.
Speaker 2: Do you are corrector Ulu River? You are corrector yes?
Speaker 2: Some of those also known as the Chambly River though
Speaker 2: when it was the.
Speaker 1: British Okay Chamber all right, well the fort.
Speaker 2: You know, the whole French and British think Quebec, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so some of those documents also say to go
Speaker 1: to Fort Hunter on the Mohawk River, and it's in
Speaker 1: this New York area, right the Mohawker. I look that
Speaker 1: up and it's still there. Fort Hunter is still there,
Speaker 1: and it's at the confluence of two rivers. So I
Speaker 1: guarantee you that's another one of the places they were using.
Speaker 1: Because I want to tie this in with stuff that
Speaker 1: you said about that Confederate.
Speaker 2: Treasure, I'm tracking, sir, I'm falling along here. I'm looking
Speaker 2: at some pictures and type of things in as you go.
Speaker 1: I think that these treasures, they have what they called vaults.
Speaker 1: They had several vaults. They still apparently do. Templars have
Speaker 1: these vaults where they have stuff store, whether it's treasure
Speaker 1: or scrolls and ancient knowledge and all the above. At
Speaker 1: Oak Island seems to have been one of those places,
Speaker 1: and it may have been there as a future treasury
Speaker 1: to for the beginning of the country. But what I'm
Speaker 1: saying is, regardless of what it was and what it
Speaker 1: was intended to be, it seems like they when Benjamin
Speaker 1: Franklin went in there and got some of that money,
Speaker 1: and these other guys did after him, it's it seems
Speaker 1: like they moved that stuff around. They didn't just take
Speaker 1: it all and spend it. I think they. I think
Speaker 1: part of the practices is like you use a location
Speaker 1: like that for as long as you can use it,
Speaker 1: and then you move the treasure, take what you need
Speaker 1: for your purposes, and then create a new area to
Speaker 1: hide stuff. And I'm thinking that maybe, just maybe that
Speaker 1: this is what this area of upstate New York became
Speaker 1: one of these areas where they were hiding things, because
Speaker 1: it's it's right that the Fort Hunter is right up
Speaker 1: the river from a place called New Amsterdam or called Amsterdam,
Speaker 1: and the templars were using New Amsterdam as a title
Speaker 1: for their ciphers, as a keyword in their ciphers, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you know. And it's like, could it be that they
Speaker 1: founded New Amsterdam in the first place, right, New Amsterdam
Speaker 1: was New York City before it's called New York City.
Speaker 2: So well, let's let's look who did that. The Van Schoolers,
Speaker 2: the Van Courtland's right, the Society of the Cincinnati Families
Speaker 2: of the New York Chapter, right, yeah, so the Livingstons,
Speaker 2: it's the Scottish ones that went through through they joined
Speaker 2: up with the Dutch. So we even see before these
Speaker 2: times the same families teaming up with these same national
Speaker 2: borders that are described, but they're the same bloodlines. The Livingstons,
Speaker 2: the Van Cortland's, the van Schulers, so on and so forth.
Speaker 2: The Van Rensselaar's mine, the Vanderpools. I'm a Vanderpool They're
Speaker 2: LinkedIn with the Vances. That's part of one of my
Speaker 2: one of my four, Abner Vance's is his granddaughter married
Speaker 2: to Vanderpool And that's where I you know, come through
Speaker 2: that one, that one. Anyhow, my point being here is
Speaker 2: we see not only the Scotts Irish the advances of
Speaker 2: the Vanderpools. We see the Vanderpools, the Livingstons, Evan Seals,
Speaker 2: Van Wrestlers and so on and so forth, of the
Speaker 2: New Amsterdam founding families teaming up with the Livingstons, who
Speaker 2: were a Scottish family beforehand. So and they're one of
Speaker 2: the other New York Chapter families, the Livingstons.
Speaker 1: And their helping to establish these boss over here.
Speaker 2: And they were the Slavania. They came through there there
Speaker 2: predominantly through the Pennsylvania Chapter, like General Arthur Saint Clair.
Speaker 2: So what you're saying, spot on, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, A couple of things I just want to highlight though.
Speaker 1: It's like they had places over here set up and
Speaker 1: going back into this goddess worship thing, they literally had
Speaker 1: a place over here on top of a mountain called
Speaker 1: the Temple of the Goddess.
Speaker 2: I just I just saw. That's amazing. I did not
Speaker 2: know that either, which apparently they were.
Speaker 1: They were storing scrolls there of books from biblical times.
Speaker 1: And I'm very interested in this part of the story
Speaker 1: which they're they're saying that they have this book called
Speaker 1: the Book of the Wars of the Lord Uh and
Speaker 1: that it's it's a book that's mentioned in the Bible.
Speaker 1: It's mentioned in numbers. They're saying that they have that
Speaker 1: book and it was a part of it was part
Speaker 1: of a collection that was stored at this temple. So
Speaker 1: and you know, we're not talking about these guys aren't Christians,
Speaker 1: by the way, but they they tend to deal with
Speaker 1: areas of the faith occasionally like they brush they brush
Speaker 1: paths and collect Christian documents for some reason, because but
Speaker 1: they don't seem like they want to follow the narrative
Speaker 1: of the Bible. They kind of want to stray off
Speaker 1: and follow their own narratives. On things. But nonetheless they
Speaker 1: might actually have some of these old texts that are
Speaker 1: mentioned in the Bible. I don't know, but who does, right?
Speaker 1: But my point is there's a lot going on up
Speaker 1: and down these waterways.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I think that's part of this. Now, when
Speaker 2: we were talking about treasure, is part of that treasure
Speaker 2: is most certainly texts. Yes, So we're talking about cachetes
Speaker 2: of things at mom we're talking about treasures buried in
Speaker 2: mounds and around these areas we're talking about. I'll give
Speaker 2: you a few examples. So during the Civil War, the Society,
Speaker 2: the Cincinnati Feud that we now know is the Civil War,
Speaker 2: we have two of these members of prominent members of
Speaker 2: these families, General Stonewall Jackson and General will call them
Speaker 2: phil mcphilson because I can't remember his name right now.
Speaker 2: They run simultaneous campaigns raiding northern towns in the Union,
Speaker 2: one through Pennsylvania, the other through Indiana and right through
Speaker 2: Union headquarters in Cincinnati, all the way to northern Ohio.
Speaker 2: They're raiding Masonic lodgies that were built upon mound sites.
Speaker 2: I suspect many of those sites again were cashes of
Speaker 2: act of these sort of treasures were discussing and a
Speaker 2: network of cases that were established and mapped out as
Speaker 2: is in the dispersion of their treasures over multiple dispersions,
Speaker 2: over multiple times over history. They've they've done this, but
Speaker 2: these well, I'll get back, I'll get right back up
Speaker 2: there on this tale here, sir. So we see that
Speaker 2: in the Civil War, you know, where these campaigns of
Speaker 2: these two generals that were descendants of these same bloodlines
Speaker 2: and members of the Society of the Cincinnati We go
Speaker 2: back to the Society of the Cincinnati campaign if for
Speaker 2: tykwonder Ruga, which predates the America interest there with the French.
Speaker 2: So the French side of the same blood line society
Speaker 2: Cincinnati business occupied and allegedly built that that fort beforehand.
Speaker 2: But again I would argue this is an ancestral site
Speaker 2: for them, and we see them protecting matters in a
Speaker 2: very similar kind of occult manner when we see a wizard.
Speaker 2: We're talking about wizards stuff earlier. I think these things
Speaker 2: go on to modern times as well. Here with these sites.
Speaker 2: With Ben Franklin, he was a member of an honorary
Speaker 2: member of the Society of Cincinnati. I mean he didn't
Speaker 2: pass on his membership. But he's also up there during
Speaker 2: the battle one of the most integral battles there for
Speaker 2: Taekwonderoga there and the more and he's doing I would argue, wizardship,
Speaker 2: and these are sites that they're they're protecting these sites
Speaker 2: because there are treasures there at those sites. Foot stuff
Speaker 2: there because they're protecting the treasure.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And the fort that the ruins of the fort
Speaker 1: or whatever, the fourth that's there today. They may have
Speaker 1: built that right on top of an older fort, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know that's what I'm hearing, is like
Speaker 1: the these are these ancestral locations, right, but they've been
Speaker 1: using these at these locations since antiquity.
Speaker 2: Well, we do the same thing now, right, So I'm
Speaker 2: living on a farm here. Might I stay with my
Speaker 2: dude's farm here, and you know help cake nor of
Speaker 2: a land caretaker at times, because no one resides on
Speaker 2: the farm. But it's an operational farm from generations. They've
Speaker 2: just the generations of my dude's family here. They build
Speaker 2: homes down down the way across, you know, on other
Speaker 2: areas of the property right miles away. So no one's
Speaker 2: here on the operational side, but there's two old farmhouses here.
Speaker 2: Why is there two old farm houses here? Because they
Speaker 2: built upon the ancestral home of their previous ancestors. They
Speaker 2: build forts upon them. You know, it's folks. Folks look
Speaker 2: at things too complex. They try to make it real simple.
Speaker 2: The greatest common denominator human behaviors is the same across
Speaker 2: the spectrum.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, I know. And and the start the star
Speaker 1: forks are a huge part of the store at I
Speaker 1: don't want to I definitely want to want to highlight that.
Speaker 1: I want to underline that and so so.
Speaker 2: But the people who build the star forks had a
Speaker 2: great understanding of astronomy, mantics, race. Yes, so we're seeing
Speaker 2: the same salient characteristics, the same bloodlines, using the same
Speaker 2: geographical locations. That's what I mean, their ancestral homes, if
Speaker 2: you will. So homes or residents is whatever you want
Speaker 2: to call it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've got this region. I never hear it talk
Speaker 1: about in regards to ancient history. And it's New York.
Speaker 1: It's you know, Nova Scotia, Quebec, New York state type
Speaker 1: of place. And like, so they're coming down, they're coming
Speaker 1: across the Atlantic Ocean. They're entering in the Saint Lawrence River,
Speaker 1: they're coming down, and then you hang a left on
Speaker 1: the Reschalou River and there's a temple. They had a
Speaker 1: temple up there where they were hiding stuff being ran
Speaker 1: by priestesses, and they called it the Temple of the Goddess.
Speaker 1: So you know, we're now we're getting into this exotic stuff.
Speaker 1: And then also in this area we have these star
Speaker 1: forks and star wars go back to the mysterious history
Speaker 1: of North America that we aren't told. And like I said,
Speaker 1: I do think that some of these locations have been
Speaker 1: used since antiquity. And I want to talk about another
Speaker 1: area over here, because now we're also talking about Lake Champlain. Right.
Speaker 1: Lake Champlain is part of this rock waterway. Now. I
Speaker 1: think if you go down the rash Holly River, it
Speaker 1: takes you right in the Lake Champlain.
Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, sir. You know your geography. Well, I'm a
Speaker 2: bootleg forver Monster Lake Champlain. I have fish, swam and
Speaker 2: done all sorts of boating or across most of my life.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So there's of the regions.
Speaker 1: So let's show this is another site. Let's show people
Speaker 1: this this site here that's in this region. Now, if
Speaker 1: I showed somebody this picture and asked somewhere it was.
Speaker 1: I imagine that some of they would probably say Scotland or something. Right,
Speaker 1: this is here.
Speaker 2: Look it looks very reminiscent of a scene from from Scotland.
Speaker 1: Yes, this is Crown Point Historic site off of Lake Champlain.
Speaker 2: YEP. A lot of history up there, A lot when
Speaker 2: you're talking about Berry Treasure, sir, I spent a good
Speaker 2: amount of my years, with my teenage years in Vermont
Speaker 2: looking for Barry. I know this is gonna sound real
Speaker 2: Mormon of me, as I was Mormon at the time,
Speaker 2: looking for Barry Treasure through tales I heard about and
Speaker 2: read about through folklore in Vermont.
Speaker 1: M Now, one more thing about this. A listener sent
Speaker 1: me this, by the way, shout out to them. They
Speaker 1: were up here. They were, you know, exploring this area.
Speaker 1: They're like, have you ever heard of this? I might no,
Speaker 1: But it turns out it's right in this area that
Speaker 1: I'm researching. So it was perfect timing. Now look what
Speaker 1: this sits inside of Okay, So these are two buildings
Speaker 1: that we're seeing here, right, two old ruins off of
Speaker 1: Lake Champlain. Yeah, we're gonna zoom out. I'm gonna show
Speaker 1: you what this looks like from the air.
Speaker 2: Bamn star for yeuah, look at your face hole, look
Speaker 2: at that. I've been there, sir. It's no different. It
Speaker 2: looks no different than for taikond of Rogan nearby.
Speaker 1: Right. What is really going on with these lands?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: What what is really going on here?
Speaker 2: It's a fantastic question. And you you are correct that
Speaker 2: there is a lot of history in that region that
Speaker 2: is ignored, lots of it. It's a lot of unknown territory.
Speaker 2: The Adirondack National Parks I have I've been on boy
Speaker 2: Scout adventures there, went on a canoeing trip there in
Speaker 2: the Boy Scouts one time. I'm a boy Scout years No,
Speaker 2: pardon me. That is a larger National park than the
Speaker 2: Rocky Mountain National Park and is far less inhabited. That's
Speaker 2: the that's the region immediately to the west of this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, exactly, man.
Speaker 2: I just think it's what are in them hills? You
Speaker 2: know what I mean?
Speaker 1: How long have these forts been here? And and you know,
Speaker 1: are they tied in with the Templars? Are they tied
Speaker 1: in with some of these older were they tied into
Speaker 1: the people who came before the Templars, who were in
Speaker 1: the middle Eastern Orders, you know all that stuff. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, these these star forks, every one of them
Speaker 1: I've looked into, goes back way before the date that
Speaker 1: they tell us. Like I've told you about Fort Pitt
Speaker 1: and Pittsburgh. They say that it was built in the
Speaker 1: seventeen hundreds, and I don't have the details fresh in
Speaker 1: my mind, but I looked into it. There are three
Speaker 1: other forts before Fort Pitt that I can find documented
Speaker 1: that and some of them pre date what Wikipedia says
Speaker 1: is the founding date and the building date built by date.
Speaker 1: Like it just these things just go back. There's there's
Speaker 1: there's no origin story for Fort Pitt at the tip
Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: Say what really?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's It just goes back older and older and
Speaker 1: older to older times.
Speaker 2: Now I'm not too surprise because the game we're talking
Speaker 2: about another another place that was maintained by what would
Speaker 2: become the French side of the chapter. French chapter, right,
Speaker 2: those those blood lines, and they're the ones who maintained
Speaker 2: this fort in nearby Fort Lebouf. Mm hmmm, goes star
Speaker 2: fork style, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's a star for Fort Pitt is one
Speaker 1: star for and like I got this book here, it's well,
Speaker 1: you can't, it's too dark to see. But it's Atlantis Empire,
Speaker 1: the gods in North America. It's an interesting book. It's
Speaker 1: not as woo woo as it sounds. And it's Henriette
Speaker 1: Mertz who wrote this. She's passed, but uh she in
Speaker 1: this book she alludes to these inscribed stones that were
Speaker 1: found in Maine and Quebec that showed that the uh
Speaker 1: car the people from Carthage were here. Carthenigens. How do
Speaker 1: we say that? I can't even remember how to pronounce
Speaker 1: that Cargens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Carthenians, the Carthag, Carthagen, I think it's I
Speaker 2: think it's a silent sea. It's the Arthenigiens.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so I'm Stone. I'm trying to look into
Speaker 1: that too, because it's like, Wow, there was another group
Speaker 1: that was over here that that she's seem to know about.
Speaker 2: And soon there's Asian folks. There's evidence of Asian stuff
Speaker 2: over here too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's you know, Quebec is kind of tied
Speaker 1: in with this whole area of that we're looking at.
Speaker 2: So, and that's my next point. So we're talking about
Speaker 2: the waterways of the area, we're talking about entrances into America.
Speaker 2: It's not just Lake Champlain from Quebec's there is. Let
Speaker 2: me share this with you here real quick, m because
Speaker 2: again this is an area I know this reagion really
Speaker 2: real well. But before I do that, let me share
Speaker 2: this with you real quick there Fort Lebouf. It's my understanding.
Speaker 2: This was the French. The French is the French folks
Speaker 2: there before Fort Pitt, this was their fort. Again, you're
Speaker 2: going to see the same star forks nearby Fort Pitt.
Speaker 2: This is the same family. This is a prominent member
Speaker 2: of the French chapter. George Washington would meet with this
Speaker 2: member who starts as for allegedly the little boof guy,
Speaker 2: to plot the assassination of General Braddock. This is before
Speaker 2: the This is when George is a colonel in the
Speaker 2: in the British Army.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 2: This is this is the red sash he would fantasy
Speaker 2: wearing bradish and the fining the Bratish Braddock ambush. Now
Speaker 2: again they call it, we call it the Braddick ambush today.
Speaker 2: This is what I would say, put George on treason
Speaker 2: list number one because he survives all of his men,
Speaker 2: surviveing his boss, the man that was sent over to
Speaker 2: the colonies to put him in order. He dies, and
Speaker 2: then George runs around with his red sash the rest
Speaker 2: of his life. So but that that right before that,
Speaker 2: George was put on notice to go do some dealings
Speaker 2: and negotiations with the French up here at Fort Leboof
Speaker 2: because there this is the French Indian War versus the Brits.
Speaker 2: At the time. Well, I would say, what George is
Speaker 2: really doing was colluding with the fruit future same folks
Speaker 2: at the French chapter they would work with later in
Speaker 2: assassinating the British commander of America, George's boss. But that
Speaker 2: happens to the Star Fork. Yeah, that meeting didn't.
Speaker 1: So so yeah, this is a similar I guess, because I
Speaker 1: think Washington was involved with Fort Pitt at some point too.
Speaker 1: But what it is now I'm thinking about it is
Speaker 1: it was Fort Duquaine or Ducaine.
Speaker 2: There you go. Yes, I agree with you on that one, SyRI, yep.
Speaker 2: But it's not the same deal. The right star Fork.
Speaker 1: They it's a star Fork. They built that one in
Speaker 1: seventeen They say they built Fort Dukaine in seventeen fifty four.
Speaker 1: But if you do some digging, there's documentation of an
Speaker 1: older fort there called Fort Prince George. Okay, then if
Speaker 1: you do more digging, they say, oh, well, you know
Speaker 1: there was a Fort Trent there before that. So it
Speaker 1: just keeps going back. It doesn't have an origin story.
Speaker 1: It's as if it's always been there. But they say
Speaker 1: the French came in in seventeen fifty four and built
Speaker 1: Fort Duquine. And they listen, no date for Fort Prince
Speaker 1: George or Fort Trent or any It doesn't matter to
Speaker 1: them because they choose to start the story in seventeen
Speaker 1: fifty four. That's what I'm saying with the That's the
Speaker 1: deal with these star forks. Everyone I've looked into has
Speaker 1: some sort of a shady past that points to it
Speaker 1: being there. Like Castle Clinton at the tip of Manhattan
Speaker 1: looks a lot like Fort Pitt. It's at the same
Speaker 1: kind of a geographical kind of a location that's been
Speaker 1: there for a long time too, and it's shady, shadowy origins. Man,
Speaker 1: it's on I saw it on old maps from the
Speaker 1: sixteen hundred. It's just like, really, you guys say this
Speaker 1: was built in the eighteen hundreds, what's it doing on
Speaker 1: a map from the sixteen hundreds. So they're all like
Speaker 1: that that I've believed.
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I think there's and again I
Speaker 2: think it's passed down to these bloodlines. And that's why
Speaker 2: we see folks like George Washington dispatching Joseph Vance Senior,
Speaker 2: that would be first cousin of Abner Vance. You know,
Speaker 2: they were biological cousins, and that is on paper to
Speaker 2: Fort Vance. Right and we see the first free city
Speaker 2: in America right near these starfarks. We're just with Duquine,
Speaker 2: Fort Pitt, and Fort la Booth right down river to Washington, PA.
Speaker 2: Right here, that's the first free city in America founded
Speaker 2: by you know, again started by these Advance folks. Appear
Speaker 2: from Fort Vance in September of seventeen eighty three after
Speaker 2: the Treaty of Paris. So this is a city in
Speaker 2: the university that where every US presidents visited. So this
Speaker 2: is very interesting. Again, I like to bring things to
Speaker 2: relevant times. This is a very relevant story and it
Speaker 2: revolves around the areas of these again the same I
Speaker 2: would say, the same ancestral areas where these star forks are.
Speaker 2: They're setting up the first free city in America.
Speaker 1: I've got a very interesting story it's a news article
Speaker 1: about giant bones that were found down there in Washington, PA.
Speaker 1: So there was, Yeah, there was a mound site. There
Speaker 1: were giants found there.
Speaker 2: Fort Vance was a mound site, right, So like Fort
Speaker 2: Loudam where George found mount them giants. Sir, that was
Speaker 2: a mountain site. Please continue to apologize for interjecting there
Speaker 2: no just just saying you got excitedly we talked about
Speaker 2: mounds and giants me.
Speaker 1: So it just it goes back to some of the
Speaker 1: things that we've pointed out already on this program before
Speaker 1: today to do with these places being I like your
Speaker 1: term there, like ancestral heritage sites, places where people have
Speaker 1: been living for a very long time and not just living.
Speaker 1: You mentioned DeSoto earlier. De Soto did indeed go up
Speaker 1: into the south, into Appalachia, and that's some of that's
Speaker 1: mentioned in this book I just talked about I've read
Speaker 1: it about it in other books too. But De Soto
Speaker 1: what he did was the further up he went. Once
Speaker 1: he got into Tennessee, he finds that there's cities there,
Speaker 1: that there's an there's a civilization there, not teepees and fires.
Speaker 1: Cities they had built up on these islands in the
Speaker 1: Little Tennessee River, and they had the Kachota, the Cherokee
Speaker 1: metropolis there, so and he stayed there. DeSoto liked it there.
Speaker 1: He's like, and this is like a paradise. He's like,
Speaker 1: they're growing corn, beans and squash, and this place is great.
Speaker 1: They're civilized people. And when you look into some of
Speaker 1: those sites, that's when you start to find, like the
Speaker 1: Egyptian Temple of North Dam. It's underneath Norris Lake right
Speaker 1: now because we you know, they covered it up. It's
Speaker 1: an ancient site that predates the Cherokee's residence in the region.
Speaker 1: The Cherokee moved into a place where people had been
Speaker 1: living before. These cities have been cities for a very
Speaker 1: long time. And when I see that they're giant bones
Speaker 1: being found in mounds and temple complexes where Washington, Pennsylvania
Speaker 1: is today, something a light goes off and I think, Oh,
Speaker 1: George Washington knew about this place and wanted to put
Speaker 1: his want to rebrand it with his name on it.
Speaker 1: This is a place.
Speaker 2: I think it's spot answer. I think it's about anster
Speaker 2: we live under. Propaganda's near and is a fairy tales
Speaker 2: and nursery rhymes and bad time tales of history when
Speaker 2: and all these folks are being sanctioned, Their families are
Speaker 2: being sanctioned, their narratives around those families are being sanctioned,
Speaker 2: their true histories have been sanctioned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, oh, there's another one. I'm just gonna
Speaker 1: show it. I was going to wait for another program,
Speaker 1: but I mean, I got something that's just gonna prove
Speaker 1: the point I think even more. Let me let me
Speaker 1: show you this real quick. It's not that. Hold on
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 2: While you're looking for that matter, share of this on
Speaker 2: the nature of that area of Quebec, southern Quebec into
Speaker 2: America and the ways to sneak in there. This area
Speaker 2: was a choke point, if you will, and a secret
Speaker 2: area for many years in which to get in via
Speaker 2: a river system and a mountain pass. This is now
Speaker 2: one of the I know Stove Vermont, but smugglers notches
Speaker 2: the mountain pass there Mount Mansfield, and there are so
Speaker 2: many legends. What's that, sir?
Speaker 1: Go ahead and share it if you want.
Speaker 2: Oh is it not sherry On? My apologies?
Speaker 1: No, I don't see it.
Speaker 2: Uh, I'm new and I don't know what to do.
Speaker 2: I want to say, is that it is that it?
Speaker 2: I think I do. Yeah, So when we when I
Speaker 2: you know, I just want to point out that when
Speaker 2: we're looking at Matters. So you see Lake Champlain right here.
Speaker 2: This is over here, and it actually connects from a
Speaker 2: waterway over here in Quebec, see, and you come down
Speaker 2: that water way over through the mountain Pass and that
Speaker 2: dumps into and you know, you don't see that a
Speaker 2: good picture on this Wikipedia page of the waterway I'm describing,
Speaker 2: but it does go through that mountain pass and then
Speaker 2: down through here and down into Lake Champlain. So there's
Speaker 2: some sneaky ways to get in there. And there's many
Speaker 2: tales of this, as you can see here in the
Speaker 2: history of smugglers, notch but all the the you know,
Speaker 2: the kind of the efforts of you know, smuggling through
Speaker 2: things through there. That's how got its name over the years.
Speaker 2: But there's a lot of legends of things being hidden
Speaker 2: in there that no one's ever found. So that's when
Speaker 2: I was describing the treasures I look for in Matters.
Speaker 2: We were discussing, this is exactly what I was referring
Speaker 2: to as a lot of history there folks don't know about.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, it's all over North America. It's all over
Speaker 1: And you know what, man, something just went off. Man,
Speaker 1: something just clicked. That's the Washington, PA. Right like that
Speaker 1: was his little city, right Washington established.
Speaker 2: He called it. He called the advanced boys. He said,
Speaker 2: let's start a new city in America.
Speaker 1: He said, let's start the city. We're gonna call it Washington, Pa.
Speaker 1: It just went off in my head. That's the connection
Speaker 1: point for this ancient bloodline meeting. It's for Washington reconnecting
Speaker 1: with this ancient bloodline because there were giants, There was
Speaker 1: giants buried there, there were giants living there. It was
Speaker 1: an ancient civilization, and Washington reconnected with it. Is that
Speaker 1: is that this bloodline reconnecting with itself essentially.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, Yes, sir. And I'll give you one further
Speaker 2: nearby and the caves and cliff dwellings nearby Washington, PA.
Speaker 2: Are fourteen fifteen thousand year old inscriptions and cave drawings,
Speaker 2: some of the oldest, some of the oldest we have
Speaker 2: in America. So we see these again, these are the
Speaker 2: folks that are drawing, as you're saying, they're connecting to
Speaker 2: their heritage in the same sites and locations, whether it's
Speaker 2: a star fork, whether it's a fucking farmland, multi generational farmlands.
Speaker 2: The farm mind right now was in this family, my
Speaker 2: dude's family, from the Revolutionary War, in them land grants.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying. Whether it's ancestral lands that
Speaker 2: we're in America, whether it's the star forks, the cave arts,
Speaker 2: the mounds, the giants, these are things that some folks
Speaker 2: know about here and they've been building stuff on top
Speaker 2: of it and paying I call it paying tribute. You
Speaker 2: got to pay tribute. This is their versions of paying
Speaker 2: tribute and homage and some sort of honor to these things.
Speaker 2: But it's like looking at through Clan Van.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like that Tomuki would drive down in Georgia
Speaker 1: right where uh there were giants in called the Tomukua
Speaker 1: was down in Georgia on Jaco Island, and they had
Speaker 1: a temple there and they had an altar there, and
Speaker 1: this is known, it was documented, and uh Rockefeller went
Speaker 1: in there and put built a house right on top
Speaker 1: of the temple and that's where they had the beating
Speaker 1: to establish the Federal Reserve.
Speaker 2: I was gonna mention that earlier. I'm glad you brought
Speaker 2: that back, yes, sir, And we see a lot of
Speaker 2: other elements of that anti liberty faction of the Society
Speaker 2: of Cincinnati erupting out of that event and the parties involved.
Speaker 1: But they did, they connected with the older bloodline.
Speaker 2: They did, and they did on the Rockefeller's cottage there
Speaker 2: on Jacko Island, on a mound, and even you look
Speaker 2: at that. So there's evidence of the excavation on that mound. However,
Speaker 2: and you will see, folks today, there are narratives online,
Speaker 2: including the official I believe commerce or travel folks down
Speaker 2: there's narratives that's not a real mount, you know, there's
Speaker 2: no evidence of it. It's just you know, a bunch
Speaker 2: of seashells, you know. And again there's back in the
Speaker 2: thirties and twenties, there's numerous excavations of those sites before
Speaker 2: the well, I know, I guess have been eighteen nineties
Speaker 2: and nineteen ten is before the Federal Reserve creation there,
Speaker 2: before the Rockefellers bought that property.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, you've got these cultures that you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: My point being there is you can see both sides
Speaker 2: of the same coin, and the factions within these groups
Speaker 2: that are using the sites. So you see the anti
Speaker 2: liberty faction of the Society of Cincinnati that connects up
Speaker 2: to that Tammany Hall group versus. Also you have the
Speaker 2: Tamney Hall group that Aaron Burr founded, that Aaron Burr founded,
Speaker 2: who murdered Alexander Hamilton in the first public dispute of
Speaker 2: the Society of Cincinnati, murdering the Society of Cincinnati President General.
Speaker 2: This is five years after four and a half, my
Speaker 2: almost five years of the date, to be quite honest
Speaker 2: with you, after George Washington was poisoned the first President
Speaker 2: General of the Society on July fourth, seventeen ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Aaron Byrn is coup of America backed by those European interests,
Speaker 2: those globalist interests. And in a tale as old as
Speaker 2: Jesus in the time of Judea and the King Herod
Speaker 2: who sold out his people to the globalist interests of Judea,
Speaker 2: say them the Roman interests. We see that going on
Speaker 2: here too, with Aaron Burr being backed by the Vatican.
Speaker 2: We see the coup against Lincoln being backed by the Vatican,
Speaker 2: with John Sarat literally being hidden out by the Vatican
Speaker 2: and all the members who are involved in this conspiracy
Speaker 2: happened to be from the Maryland colony of the Vatican.
Speaker 2: So that's that should be of note. Again these it's
Speaker 2: the same pattern behavior every time within these same groups
Speaker 2: and the liberty and anti liberty factions that speak these things.
Speaker 2: But these are all man related issues of that are ancestral,
Speaker 2: ritual and resident sites here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, yeah, And it's not just North America either.
Speaker 1: I mean, speaking of the templars, Templars have these sites
Speaker 1: all over Spain, you know, I think in that in
Speaker 1: that Pyrenees Mountain there's a lot of Cathar stuff there
Speaker 1: and and Templar stuff as well, but they had access.
Speaker 1: The thing about this group is that they have access
Speaker 1: to like a hidden libr areya of workers, right, and
Speaker 1: if you look there's it gets really interesting when you
Speaker 1: look into some of these guys who claim to be templars,
Speaker 1: like Mitch Hedges, you know, he said that the Templars
Speaker 1: at ren Lost Chateau had a gathering where they would
Speaker 1: all these tenth bars would get together and they'd bring
Speaker 1: out this crystal skull, right, and that they would have
Speaker 1: some sort of ceremony and that they would see visions
Speaker 1: and that they would receive information from the crystal skull
Speaker 1: like Joseph Smith style, right, Like the whole Joseph Smith's
Speaker 1: story where he puts the seeing stones in the hat
Speaker 1: and he looks down in the hat and he blocks
Speaker 1: out all the light and he it's almost like he's
Speaker 1: like looking at a little mini computer screen in there,
Speaker 1: and he's getting all this information from these rocks. That's
Speaker 1: what they said was happening here. And this is a
Speaker 1: guy who says he was a templar and he actually
Speaker 1: got really into the crystal skulls and said that he
Speaker 1: found one uh in the Americas and that it was
Speaker 1: a Mayan divination relic. So I took it's a wild story.
Speaker 2: But I just want makes you wonder where the templar, sir.
Speaker 1: That's where you get the crystal skull in Indiana Jones. Right,
Speaker 1: It's like these guys were really messing around with these
Speaker 1: crystal skulls.
Speaker 2: Well yeah, but it makes you wonder where they get
Speaker 2: the whole worship of skulls. Right. I mean, again, there's
Speaker 2: a lot to be said about the time flu in propaganda.
Speaker 2: And again I'm not trying to manish the departed of
Speaker 2: this world, but I had problems with her in her
Speaker 2: research and that and statements Tracy Twyman regarding the nights Templar.
Speaker 2: You know, I think these are efforts to diminish, you know,
Speaker 2: So again these are there's ongoing efforts. There's ongoing efforts
Speaker 2: to all these things, to attack both of these from
Speaker 2: the we'll call it the goddess worship versus the betray
Speaker 2: you order, aspects of the rooms, what the romans, whatnot.
Speaker 2: There's ongoing matters of these of this nature. And again
Speaker 2: I think this is some of this propagain is largely
Speaker 2: focused in that with diminishing the templars and whatnot, and
Speaker 2: not not at least which they're history in America, but
Speaker 2: any any idea that they were they brought anything good
Speaker 2: into this world. Again, we have rights, those rights of
Speaker 2: the US Constitution Bill of Rights thanks to the Knight's Templar. So, folks,
Speaker 2: I don't want to I told her, you want to diminish
Speaker 2: the knights Temple all day long, man, you can do
Speaker 2: so at your at at your own cost of being
Speaker 2: able to do so because of the Knight's Templar. I
Speaker 2: told her to consider that it was my we had
Speaker 2: a respectful disputes on the matter. But nonetheless, well people
Speaker 2: quote that her stuff to me all the time, like yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm like, that's garbage, so and I'm a garbage can dude,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna call that garbage. But nonetheless we see
Speaker 2: the same thing that Notre Dame Cathedral goes back to
Speaker 2: the Council of Clermont in the creation of the templars,
Speaker 2: the current raw You mentioned rosschild before though, that was
Speaker 2: interesting temple, the current rothschild, first lady, first husband, father
Speaker 2: of the president there, missus mcrone as they call her.
Speaker 2: She's a man slash father or's a Manuel Macrone. It
Speaker 2: seems they're both ross childs of the Trognau family. This
Speaker 2: is well, this has been well documented. This is not supposition.
Speaker 2: So this is a journalist over there's in hiding now,
Speaker 2: Xavier Rousseau. This is all very pertinent because again this
Speaker 2: ties into the French chapter of the society. These banners
Speaker 2: do back all the way to the templars. So that
Speaker 2: man lady who calls itself the first lady, whose son
Speaker 2: slash husband or both secret ross childs of this Trogno
Speaker 2: Chocolate family. She wanted to put a giant not a
Speaker 2: giant Dick statue Sir a giant golden penis with balls
Speaker 2: complete with sack on top as the new spire of
Speaker 2: the Notre Dame Cathedral. The same Notre Dame Cathedral did
Speaker 2: a number of Society of Cincinnati members, or at least
Speaker 2: descendants thereof of the templar, including Trump. We're in attendance
Speaker 2: of the reopening of not the least of which boris Johnson.
Speaker 2: Back to that Norman invasion of the UK. There's been
Speaker 2: some shit coating on his heritage, but I did it
Speaker 2: years ago. He is a descendant from one of those
Speaker 2: knights lieutenants of William the Conqueror on that same invasion.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting, I'm convinced that he was brought
Speaker 1: in as Prime Minister just to be active during the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty COVID stuff. They used him.
Speaker 2: They used him for something to tank the British Empire,
Speaker 2: the same thing I think Megan Markle's been done a
Speaker 2: great job of a lot of Americans. They're tanking shit
Speaker 2: and the have British Empire these days, and I like it.
Speaker 2: But nonetheless, we see also Donald Trump during their time
Speaker 2: of bor Johnson PM, he went over there and he
Speaker 2: decided he was going to go walking front the Queen
Speaker 2: on her own property on Friday, July thirteenth, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2: We made a big spectacle, they said, Donald Trump, on
Speaker 2: this unofficial, this unofficial state visit, we would have the
Speaker 2: audacity to walking from the Queen while he did so.
Speaker 2: And then he visits the Templar headquarters there in London,
Speaker 2: and then he has a weird meeting on a mound
Speaker 2: in Scotland on one of his golf courses. Because if
Speaker 2: you think about it, Donald Trump's largest mound owner in
Speaker 2: the world, because all these golf courses he's built upon
Speaker 2: are all mound sites, including the UK. And if I
Speaker 2: if I might emphasize my point there with we call
Speaker 2: these mounds, they call them tumuli, you can call them barrows.
Speaker 2: They're all the same constructions of the same culture, of
Speaker 2: the same bloodlines. And when I find see a man
Speaker 2: who's a McLoud of the his mother's McLeod, of a
Speaker 2: Templar heritage there with Donald Trump, I'm gonna ask why
Speaker 2: is he buying up so many mound sites? And if
Speaker 2: you look here, we can see here on the mounds
Speaker 2: in the UK they are fundamentally in every aspect of
Speaker 2: appearance and construction and time in which they are allegedly
Speaker 2: built no different than what we see today. And that
Speaker 2: is uh, we see if I can bring up the
Speaker 2: right picture here I was looking for for a moment here, Well,
Speaker 2: let me bring up this picture. So we see over
Speaker 2: there these knights Templar families built their castles on mounds.
Speaker 2: And this is not the only example of that. This
Speaker 2: is one example. So this is a templar castle that
Speaker 2: was built upon a mound site in Wales. Back to
Speaker 2: that Beaker people, you know whale, you know whale into
Speaker 2: the rocks of stone in Ise, coming allegedly from whales.
Speaker 2: But you know again that whole region down there in
Speaker 2: southern United Kingdom, my ancestry corner, all DNA results comes
Speaker 2: from the mound culture that that built those mounds. So
Speaker 2: that my paternal blood line. That is so we see
Speaker 2: again emphasized through these same paternal blood lines right through
Speaker 2: a different This is not mine. This is a this
Speaker 2: is one of the I don't I'll get back to
Speaker 2: you which one. This was? Oh, here we go, land,
Speaker 2: I don't ask me to pronounce anything. Welch, sir, I
Speaker 2: will not do that. But it's right there. You can
Speaker 2: see it. This is a templar castle that was built
Speaker 2: in the thirteenth century and it was built upon the
Speaker 2: mound Site's recognized mound site over there. We have a
Speaker 2: lot of recognized mound sites over there, so we have
Speaker 2: there's a site. Well, let me just bring this up.
Speaker 2: Let me let me find let me let me find
Speaker 2: a picture real quick.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me show you something in the in the
Speaker 1: meantime that speaking of building stuff on mound sites, this
Speaker 1: is the city of Grand Rapids, Michigan. They built downtown
Speaker 1: on a mound site, Yes, sir, And as you can see,
Speaker 1: some of the mounds still exists to this day. They're
Speaker 1: not as plentiful as they once were. I think there's
Speaker 1: like seven or eight of them here, but the rest
Speaker 1: of them, because there were sixty at one point, the
Speaker 1: rest of them are underneath the downtown area. They built
Speaker 1: the city on the mound site.
Speaker 2: That goes without saying, with the Society of Cincinnati, from
Speaker 2: from Cincinnati to these cities in Michigan, the city of
Speaker 2: Chicago and Saint Louis, Louisville, so on and so forth,
Speaker 2: lacross Wisconsin, Minneapolis, Saint Paul. These are all mound sites,
Speaker 2: and they were intentionally done so with the key key
Speaker 2: architecture being built on mound sites. For example, the man
Speaker 2: who built Fort Vance I mentioned before. They're in Washington, Pennsylvania.
Speaker 2: They're the man who helped found that city there. Joseph
Speaker 2: Vance Senior, his son Joseph Vance Junior. His father was
Speaker 2: a Pennsylvania Chapter. Joseph Senior's father Samuel Pennsylvania Chapter, so
Speaker 2: he was probably hereditary member. And then his son is
Speaker 2: probably hereditary member. Right, so we see it again. Joseph
Speaker 2: Vance Junior, thirteenth governor of Ohio. He moves the capital
Speaker 2: from Chili coalthee the kind of the capital of Adena
Speaker 2: mounds there you will. I'll show you a hope well
Speaker 2: Adena structure from Chili cooth. He looks identical to a
Speaker 2: structure in the United Kingdom here in a moment. But
Speaker 2: Joseph Vance Junior moves the capital to Columbus, Ohio, where
Speaker 2: it is today. They put it on a mound site.
Speaker 2: They took the contents of that mound, did a ritual,
Speaker 2: made the cornerstone for the capital building in Columbus from
Speaker 2: the earth mound that they destroyed and did an a
Speaker 2: ritual fashion. And then Joseph Smith Junior, after he got
Speaker 2: out of office as governor, founded the city of Findlay, Ohio,
Speaker 2: which is not far from where you're describing this city
Speaker 2: today in Michigan, about an hour and a half south
Speaker 2: of their two hours found in Finlay on a mound.
Speaker 2: So we see again the gone going trend there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and with grand rapids here I looked into a
Speaker 1: little bit very interesting story here. There's documentation of the
Speaker 1: guys who helped build the city. They were some Irish
Speaker 1: fellows and some fellows from Holland that were tasked with
Speaker 1: getting rid of the mounds, right, the other mounds that
Speaker 1: we don't see here. They were charged with, you know,
Speaker 1: leveling the mounds, and a lot of those guys quit.
Speaker 1: They didn't want to go through with it because of
Speaker 1: the amount of bones and just history that they were
Speaker 1: pulling out. They thought it was wrong and they got
Speaker 1: superstitious about it. So they had to send a lot
Speaker 1: of these guys to work on other streets, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Like they're like, okay, you can work,
Speaker 1: go down the street where there's no mounds, and we'll
Speaker 1: have you work on that street. It's just there's a
Speaker 1: lot of other interesting stories surrounding this one, but I
Speaker 1: thought i'd bring it up right like, this is just
Speaker 1: another example of something that we've talked about.
Speaker 2: Dude. That's that's a good example.
Speaker 1: Actually, the more I look into this, the more I
Speaker 1: find that our North American cities are built on these
Speaker 1: mountd sites. Man, it's unbelievable. It's great.
Speaker 2: Why and intentionally it's it's they're venerating their ancestry. It's there,
Speaker 2: it's there, it's their ancestral ritual and residences.
Speaker 1: Seems to be. And then you find out that they're
Speaker 1: they're putting in these obelisks and lining them up with
Speaker 1: the star forks, and there's astrology and astronomy involved and
Speaker 1: goddess worship and everything else. This is the wildest story
Speaker 1: I've ever seen.
Speaker 2: It's so I don't disagree, sir, I don't disagree. And
Speaker 2: if I if I didn't live in myself, sometimes I'm
Speaker 2: not sure if I believe it.
Speaker 1: I know, man, it's just not.
Speaker 2: That's not the image I was looking for.
Speaker 1: I don't even know how to I don't even know
Speaker 1: how to go about doing like a show like we
Speaker 1: did today. I don't. I just don't even really know
Speaker 1: where to start because the story is so big, there's
Speaker 1: much to this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've been on this journey for nine plus years, sir,
Speaker 2: and I can't agree with you more. It's hard. It's
Speaker 2: hard to wrap my own brain hole around to describe
Speaker 2: to others what I'm experiencing and seeing.
Speaker 1: And I just like I definitely knew today. Like, let's
Speaker 1: try to focus on Templar some because because of their
Speaker 1: part of the story, right, because this is where it
Speaker 1: gets very interesting. Like the Templars say that they knew
Speaker 1: about this this land, the New World from multiple sources.
Speaker 1: They are the Vikings. Yes, of course Plutarch and the
Speaker 1: Greeks the Vikings, but also they they got a hold
Speaker 1: of some Egyptian records and some Jewish records. Right, So,
Speaker 1: and this is another tangent that I won't go fully down.
Speaker 2: But well, no, I like the brain holds that, sir.
Speaker 2: Real quick, you had ethnic groups of the same bloodline though, right,
Speaker 2: just just to put a quick book note, you're describing
Speaker 2: these different ethnic groups that knew these maps, that had
Speaker 2: this knowledge. They're just the same bloodlines that go through
Speaker 2: these cultures, some.
Speaker 1: Of them, Yes, I'm with you for the most part. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some of them. Yeah, I mean that's going on. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't deny that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think we get lost in definitions. I
Speaker 2: don't mean rupture and you're trying to thought. We get
Speaker 2: lost in definitions of saying it's the it's the them,
Speaker 2: or the thats or the these, But it's again, it's
Speaker 2: the it's these, it's the knowledge of these is passing
Speaker 2: down these, it is that, it is.
Speaker 1: That, and and and again, these these groups, these groups
Speaker 1: from the millies Egypt, right, there's there's that mysterious island
Speaker 1: of Egypt, Elephantine Island. The walls of a temple on
Speaker 1: that island have depictions of Egyptians trading with Mayans, trading
Speaker 1: beads with Mayans. So so it's like, okay, so, how
Speaker 1: how long were the Egyptians coming over here? Right? And
Speaker 1: the Mayans, by the way, weren't just in South America,
Speaker 1: they were in North America as well. And then there's
Speaker 1: also these Zohar texts and these other Jewish texts that
Speaker 1: there and various records of the Jews that were found
Speaker 1: that early groups of Jews were coming over here as well.
Speaker 1: So you know, which is probably how you get Indian
Speaker 1: tribes like the Choctaw, which that's a Hebrew word for chokma.
Speaker 1: Chokema is the Zohar word for wisdom, or it's just
Speaker 1: Hebrew for wisdom. Actually it's not just the Zoe and
Speaker 1: chokema's tied in with with Banah and the Tree of
Speaker 1: Life and all this very deeply Hebrew theological stuff, right.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's a it's a deeply Hebrew theological concept
Speaker 1: for Native Americans to know about. It's like, how do
Speaker 1: they know about this enough to where they named themselves
Speaker 1: wisdom in Hebrew. It's like, so I think the Hebrew,
Speaker 1: and like, I just I just think that maybe I'm
Speaker 1: not I'm not a Lost Tribes guy, I guess or whatever,
Speaker 1: but I think that some the Lost Strivees may have
Speaker 1: come over here. At some point, there were lost Strives
Speaker 1: and they did disperse across the world. It seems so
Speaker 1: maybe some of them came over here.
Speaker 2: There's also well we have evidence of it. We get
Speaker 2: in I mean, I hen see what you're saying, because again,
Speaker 2: you live under these propagandas the fundamental aspect of the history,
Speaker 2: you learned the history, and I learned history of the folks,
Speaker 2: and the nywe've learned is all this is false what
Speaker 2: we're saying. So I understand your your perspective is, but
Speaker 2: it's gonna say if you look at all the evidence
Speaker 2: of the evidence, screams otherwise m hm, scream screams. Did
Speaker 2: there there has been a dispour of varying refugees to
Speaker 2: this land for many, many years. That is the Atlantis,
Speaker 2: the land which you're not going to get murked for
Speaker 2: your belief systems, essentially right the wild West.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's it. And also the Vikings. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: But the t same family, sir, same families.
Speaker 1: That's see. That's where I'm I lean into the bloodline thing.
Speaker 1: And I don't dis I don't discount this whole bloodline
Speaker 1: thing at all. I'm just saying I think there were
Speaker 1: some other groups that came over here that weren't necessarily
Speaker 1: a part of the blood line. But it seems like
Speaker 1: the bloodline families were the ones that are running stuff.
Speaker 1: At the end of the day. They were the ones
Speaker 1: who decided where the cities would be, and they're the
Speaker 1: ones who created the Empire.
Speaker 2: I can help you that with that one. So the
Speaker 2: President of the Senate was of the Massachusetts State Senate
Speaker 2: a couple of decades ago. For many decades, Bill Barger,
Speaker 2: brother of Whitey and Bill Bulger, brother of Whitey Bulger,
Speaker 2: the infamous Irish mobster who mrked a lot of people,
Speaker 2: worked with the FBI and was MK ultred.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you had Johnny Depp movie made about him.
Speaker 2: There you go, right, gotta slid, gotta brag about your
Speaker 2: your tales of your tom fulleren hood rats ship. But Bill,
Speaker 2: Bill Bulger, to the President of the Senate, was not
Speaker 2: happy when the governor of Massachusetts decided Who's going to
Speaker 2: make a surprise appearance that day on the Senate floor.
Speaker 2: That man was a Weld of the Society of the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati Weld Family that served as the headquarters for the
Speaker 2: Massachusetts chapter in welld Hill there in Brookline. Eliza Weld,
Speaker 2: Colonel Elisa Weld was the head of that aspect of it.
Speaker 2: But Bill Weld, recent Libertarian candidate for president in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: I believe Vice President Cannon he was the governor and
Speaker 2: Bill Bulger's making a bunch of raised a bunch of
Speaker 2: ruck gets talking shit and said and is making public
Speaker 2: statements there on the floor and says, you know, my
Speaker 2: family's been here since the Mayflower. YadA, YadA, YadA, we
Speaker 2: blied this, we blowed that. And then Well just stands
Speaker 2: up and says, yeah, Bud, we sent our help here first.
Speaker 2: So that's exactly what you're describing. There are elements of
Speaker 2: the bloodlines, but then there's you know, they got the help.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, did you have this up on the screen
Speaker 1: for a reason.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So that's Sheila Calle that at when we're talking
Speaker 2: all so we're talking again. We lost, folks get lost
Speaker 2: and semantics, the definitions of ethn crups, cultures or whatever.
Speaker 2: But again, these bloodlines manifest through various cultures. So yeah, indeed,
Speaker 2: well look at Pattern. I look at Pattern's behavior and
Speaker 2: the architecture therein and we look at this thing. They
Speaker 2: call them the Six Hills, our collection of Roman barrows.
Speaker 2: Some folks call them barrows or tumuli. And you're talking
Speaker 2: about the Vikings. So the Vikings built barrows and burial
Speaker 2: mounds dating back to the Viking airs, before those before
Speaker 2: they became Normans. They're in Normandy when they became Christianized
Speaker 2: in the eleventh century. But one of those mounds they've one,
Speaker 2: I found it very interesting of those Viking era mounds
Speaker 2: that look not all this similar thing we're looking at
Speaker 2: in this picture right here, they found a demonic, little
Speaker 2: Mickey Mouse looking character in it. And I argue, that
Speaker 2: is what folks worship when they're worshiping Mickey Mouse. Is
Speaker 2: this little demonic demon that used to be worshiped in
Speaker 2: a pagan past and was very much uh uh venerated
Speaker 2: with a little trinket, ritual trinket buried in a mound,
Speaker 2: which is what we see, no different than the ritual
Speaker 2: trinkets buried in the mounds here in America. So what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is just applying the known, knowns to the
Speaker 2: what folks don't want to identify here. But these mounds
Speaker 2: look identical. They call them Roman barrows, right, and now
Speaker 2: in Chili call the Ohio the epicenter of those Adena
Speaker 2: mounds today. Right, if you're to look at the mounds,
Speaker 2: we have different, We have platform mounds, we have apigy mounds,
Speaker 2: but the a Diena or the Hope Well, which are
Speaker 2: just ridiculous names we apply to these groups. They didn't
Speaker 2: call themselves that they look identical in their constructions, other
Speaker 2: than they try to claim some carbon dating differentiates the
Speaker 2: two and whatever. Anyhow, a lot of a lot of
Speaker 2: venus alignments here, sir as well. Yeah, so we see
Speaker 2: again that ongoing pattern of behavior. It's not just the
Speaker 2: names of the ethnic groups of cultures, it's the patterns
Speaker 2: of their rituals, act and their architecture. Yeah. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: this site here in Chili Cothee looks no different than
Speaker 2: those six hills of the barrows. And again you have
Speaker 2: I couldn't find a better picture. I have a better picture,
Speaker 2: but there's six hills in a row here. It's an
Speaker 2: identical site.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Hey pause real quick. Okay, so we pause
Speaker 1: for a second. But basically what you're saying is that
Speaker 1: there were seven heels here.
Speaker 2: There's yeah, so just like in this other site. So
Speaker 2: what I'm saying that there's another.
Speaker 1: Question too, was was the mickey mouse demon found here?
Speaker 2: Now I'll bring that one up here while we're talking
Speaker 2: about it, but what But that's what I mean by
Speaker 2: we get lost in these ideas of that was the
Speaker 2: Vikings that did that, or that was the Phoenicians that
Speaker 2: did that, or that was the Romans that did that,
Speaker 2: because that's what the prevailing narrative is here, right. Uh
Speaker 2: can you see this?
Speaker 1: Uh you might need to change it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Let me see what else you got here. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: asking me to navigate this for you.
Speaker 2: You know what's what's what's sewing on the screen right now?
Speaker 2: So I'm on my screen. I'm seeing the six Hills.
Speaker 1: Okay, Uh, the actual hills. No, I'm not seeing that.
Speaker 2: No, but we're we're on the Wikipedia page for the
Speaker 2: six Hills there, right.
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so clear clear out what you have.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, oh, I'm I apologize, sir. I'm I'm new.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I don't normally use
Speaker 2: I usually use stream yard. I was looking at the
Speaker 2: wrong page.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh here you go.
Speaker 2: Now we're looking at six hills.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, the page we.
Speaker 2: Really got before. That was my point of being saying
Speaker 2: that when we're looking at all these cultures again, that
Speaker 2: other one was saying, let me just do that real quickly.
Speaker 2: This is the same and that we're looking at a
Speaker 2: culture around Stonehenge, right, the Beaker people. This is my
Speaker 2: paternal DNA heritage. Legally goes to these people curious questions.
Speaker 2: What is a barrow? Again? We call them different things.
Speaker 2: That's a mounds, the same difference the barrel mounds that
Speaker 2: predate Stonehinge by seventh centuries. So we're talking about all
Speaker 2: these cultures going over time. Why is it I look
Speaker 2: through all of my history and all I find is
Speaker 2: mounds through all these cultures. Be at the society, the Templars,
Speaker 2: the Normans, the Vikings, the Beaker peoples, or if you
Speaker 2: want to go over to this one today in the
Speaker 2: United Kingdom, we've misidentified as the Roman mounds, right, the
Speaker 2: Roman barrows, and these six hills are identical to six
Speaker 2: hills that sit in Chilicothe, Ohio. And it's like called
Speaker 2: the Hopewell National Monument. So we get lost in these
Speaker 2: ideas of hope Well, Rome, Beaker, Phoenicians, Vikings. It's the
Speaker 2: same bloodlines manifesting over time through different cultures in different
Speaker 2: time periods, built doing the same activities. So if you
Speaker 2: look at the salient characteristics of their activities, the blood
Speaker 2: lines they're in, you see the same things. We just
Speaker 2: call them different things today. No I hear you, man,
Speaker 2: I hear that's that's literally. What we're looking at here, though,
Speaker 2: right is those six hills. I can't find a good picture.
Speaker 2: I've been to the site plenty of times. I'm slacking
Speaker 2: for not having there. But you see three of these
Speaker 2: hills right here in the line of six hills, no
Speaker 2: different than that site there. We see three mounds in
Speaker 2: Washington Park, Cincinnati, Ohio, in a map drawn by Daniel
Speaker 2: Drake at eighteen thirty eight. Those mounds, by all appearances,
Speaker 2: line up with Oriyon's built no different than the Pyramids
Speaker 2: of Giza. That park, named after George Washington, is a
Speaker 2: site of a about they buried about fifty unknown soldiers
Speaker 2: from the Revolutionary War there, no different than Washington Square
Speaker 2: Park in Manhattan, where he was the general and presided
Speaker 2: over the army of and initial capital for US President
Speaker 2: in New York City. They built another site there with
Speaker 2: the Washington Archway there in Washington Square Park where there's
Speaker 2: another burial round of unknown soldiers and another mountain site.
Speaker 2: So we see again these things repeating in an ancestral homage,
Speaker 2: kind of paying tribute fashion.
Speaker 1: You said, you said Archway too. I'm thinking about Saint
Speaker 1: Louis Downtown Saint Louis they've got right there on the river.
Speaker 1: They've got that park and it's got that massive archway
Speaker 1: that was that whole area was cleared out of It
Speaker 1: was mounds and they cleared it. The whole area was
Speaker 1: mounds Saint Louis and they put why they put that
Speaker 1: gigantic archway there. You know what's that symbolize?
Speaker 2: I don't know it, dude, but you know it is
Speaker 2: interesting against repeat, I.
Speaker 1: Can tell you what this is. But this is the
Speaker 1: Ishtar Gate.
Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna I was gonna say, it seems
Speaker 2: very ancient, doesn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it goes back to Nava that that
Speaker 1: archway goes back to the In my mind hebby canezers
Speaker 1: it ish Tar gates.
Speaker 2: Oh sir, are you telling me this is goddess worship?
Speaker 1: Oh? I would imagine yes, Now I think so, I
Speaker 1: definitely think so.
Speaker 2: I mean, again, that's what that's You're making my point
Speaker 2: that that's exactly what I'm talking about. Right there, we're
Speaker 2: looking at the same bloodlines, the same patterns of behavior,
Speaker 2: the same fundamental aspects that they're in with the goddess worship. Again,
Speaker 2: we can see these things every time, we can see
Speaker 2: them being, you know, described in improper fashions, oftentimes intentionally today.
Speaker 2: But when a discovery of knights templar fashions is found
Speaker 2: in the Robert E. Lee name down there, like you'd
Speaker 2: point out earlier, I mean, that's again another great example
Speaker 2: of some of the stuff we don't know about yet.
Speaker 1: Yes, oh, I just thought about something. I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: doing some more digging on this, but I had a
Speaker 1: listener tell me about a lum Creek reservoir in.
Speaker 2: Ohio, Columbus, Ohio. Yes, sir, it was.
Speaker 1: A mountain site with seven mounds.
Speaker 2: Right, Yes, sir, I've been there. I know, Yes, sir,
Speaker 2: I know, zacht what you're talking about.
Speaker 1: It was flooded into seventies by the Army Corps of Engineers.
Speaker 1: And it's a lum creek, right A l u n
Speaker 1: A lum Creek reservoir. You froze up? Is that Does
Speaker 1: that sound right?
Speaker 2: A l u M?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Yeah, Okay, so you've been to the site. Wow,
Speaker 1: what about let me ask you this, j J. What
Speaker 1: about Hoover Reservoir in Ohio? Do you know anything about
Speaker 1: that one? Uh?
Speaker 2: Not off the top of my brain hole.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's it's near this Alum Creek reservoir from what
Speaker 1: I can tell, and it seems like they did the
Speaker 1: they did what they normally do, and they they brought
Speaker 1: in they fly, they brought in a dam. Well, they
Speaker 1: brought in the Army Corps of engineers who built the dam,
Speaker 1: and then they flowed ancient size typical.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: So, but I was thinking about it because of those mounds, right,
Speaker 1: there were seven mounds there, so it seems to be
Speaker 1: you said there were six in one in one of
Speaker 1: those pictures, there were six.
Speaker 2: But those were just identical mound sites in the rows
Speaker 2: of construction. But when you're talking about seven, you know,
Speaker 2: again we're talking about seven hills, ancient room stuff, right, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the city of Columbus. That ain't after
Speaker 2: Christopher Columbus. That's Columbia. That's the society of Cincinnati's goddess wors.
Speaker 1: Yes, I agree with you.
Speaker 2: She is America, she's a lady.
Speaker 1: Liberty, she's Columbia is dove.
Speaker 2: There you go. That's why we see Christopher Columbus represented
Speaker 2: as the dove, the white dove.
Speaker 1: And who else is the dove in ancient times?
Speaker 2: Ishtar Well, Sir, again, you're talking about goddess worship. Now, yes, sir,
Speaker 2: are you familiar with this site about forty five minutes
Speaker 2: south of.
Speaker 1: So what you have on screen right now is the
Speaker 1: demonic Mickey Mouse? Is that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's talk about that first. I'll look up beside
Speaker 2: just forty five minutes south of alumb Creek that has
Speaker 2: some very interesting characteristics as we're describing here.
Speaker 1: Let's do that. Then, what's the name are you?
Speaker 2: You see this Mickey Mouse creature there? Right? This was
Speaker 2: a Viking mound or barrow. It was from in Denmark
Speaker 2: from the ninth the tenth century, so nine hundreds. This
Speaker 2: was a little figure they found and they're rich, so
Speaker 2: as we see here in America, they built all these
Speaker 2: ritual trinkets. Right, it seems like this was some sort
Speaker 2: of a pagan guy, you demon creature there and looks
Speaker 2: especially like Mickey Mouse, Sir?
Speaker 1: Was this maybe a wand was it long enough to
Speaker 1: be a wand?
Speaker 2: It could have been? It could have been. In fact, yeah,
Speaker 2: it seems like it could have been the tip of
Speaker 2: a wand for sure, right, for sure.
Speaker 1: Magical Magical World of Disney.
Speaker 2: Bro exactly right, I'll find I'll find the exact mound
Speaker 2: that came up and you were just asking me a question.
Speaker 2: Oh now, I was gonna tell you that about this mount.
Speaker 2: So this mound sits about forty five minutes to an
Speaker 2: hour south of Alum, the Alumn Creek mounds that you're describing. Okay,
Speaker 2: so it's called cross mound. It literally is what as described.
Speaker 2: It is a cross mound.
Speaker 4: Mmmm.
Speaker 2: There you go from the squir from the Smithsonian Sanctions Societies,
Speaker 2: and they started eighteen forty eight square and David survey
Speaker 2: the cross mound with a laplunge in the Indiana Jones guy,
Speaker 2: he was there for that.
Speaker 1: Well, that's an interesting shape, is it not?
Speaker 2: Where do they get that?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: What is the significance of this? You know, again, we
Speaker 2: don't know these things. We just we just call it
Speaker 2: the cross mound.
Speaker 1: Right, Well, that's an equal arm cross.
Speaker 2: It's interesting shape, isn't it.
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? Well, and I'm not trying to make everything
Speaker 1: nights templar.
Speaker 2: Well I am, so go ahead, please, the.
Speaker 1: Equal arm cross is very well templar thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're in the land. Let's but again, let's let's
Speaker 2: use our sentences. Let's be logical. But we're in the land.
Speaker 2: Of the templar we have, so we've already discussed so
Speaker 2: many pieces of evidence of that modern ancient to modern times.
Speaker 2: If we're gonna call it in a else other than that,
Speaker 2: I think we're being silly.
Speaker 1: And you know what people people might actually get. I
Speaker 1: don't know how this is going to come across, right,
Speaker 1: but I can imagine I could see some people getting
Speaker 1: the impression that I'm like on team Templar here or
Speaker 1: something like that.
Speaker 2: You sound a lot more. Are you sure you're not Mormon?
Speaker 1: I'm neither, sir. I'm neither Templar nor Mormon. So I'm
Speaker 1: just interested in history. That's That's what's on my table.
Speaker 1: That's what's on my dinner table. Just whatever history is,
Speaker 1: whatever the true history is, that's what we're That's what
Speaker 1: we're going to dine on tonight. Right, And I'll and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you something about this this quarter cross, this
Speaker 1: equal arm cross. If you look at the points of
Speaker 1: the cross, of course this is this one's a little rounded,
Speaker 1: but you got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,
Speaker 1: eight points. And I think that there's some connections possibly
Speaker 1: with the quartered cross and the eight points, the eight
Speaker 1: pointed templar cross and the eight pointed starve Ishtar.
Speaker 2: I think so yeah. I mean, I don't know, I
Speaker 2: don't know enough about these things. When we see the
Speaker 2: repeating patterns of behavior like that, it seems to mean something.
Speaker 1: Uh. I'm not saying that the templar cross is always
Speaker 1: used as a symbol for Ishtar. I'm just saying that
Speaker 1: the points line up. There are eight points, and I
Speaker 1: do find that interesting. I find it compelling enough to mention.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and a lot of coming well, it's just
Speaker 1: it's just gonna say, a lot of this stuff, you know,
Speaker 1: coming down from Manley P. Hall uh, is interesting to
Speaker 1: me as well. He of course he later in life
Speaker 1: he did become a mason, but he was also initiated
Speaker 1: as a templar Manley P.
Speaker 2: Hall was that's right, m hm. And resecreation stuff too, right.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. And he's one of these guys who you know,
Speaker 1: every so often you see this figure emerge from from
Speaker 1: the mystery schools who seems to come out of the
Speaker 1: woodwork and put a lot of information out and it
Speaker 1: and it seems as if they're allowed to do so
Speaker 1: because in the minds of the orders themselves, they're pushing
Speaker 1: to culture forward. So you see these information dumps right
Speaker 1: through guys like Manly p All throughout history. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there's I'm sure there's another way. I'm sure somebody has
Speaker 1: a different opinion on that.
Speaker 2: Well. No, I think Manly Pol's a great figure. He's
Speaker 2: this huge Massinus scholar that I found most Masons don't
Speaker 2: read his work today. And he's also this Rosicrucian guy
Speaker 2: who dabbles with us Sirhan Sirhan kind of activities there.
Speaker 2: And you know, there's allegations from folks like Ed Sanders
Speaker 2: that he may have in fact been Manley P. Hall,
Speaker 2: the Grand Chingong of the old four Pi fame of
Speaker 2: you know, death cult manson family style stuff process. So
Speaker 2: it's an interesting character of an of a cult figure
Speaker 2: for sure, But you get you.
Speaker 1: See what I'm saying, right Like, I think that some
Speaker 1: of these orders will put out information from time to time.
Speaker 2: I think they put out information. I think folks like
Speaker 2: many Fleet Hall infiltrate many orders to put out disinformation.
Speaker 4: Interesting, which yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, well, let's
Speaker 4: let's look at an organization like the Society of Cincinnati
Speaker 4: founded Room Society, the King Charles in the Moral family,
Speaker 4: or they're in England, such venerating folks like Henry Kiss
Speaker 4: and Journ A lot of these other folks that I
Speaker 4: can all readily describe as anti liberty comedies bastards, they're
Speaker 4: part of it.
Speaker 2: But you know, and again somebody like you know lock
Speaker 2: of Me said about politics, I don't play in any
Speaker 2: of it. But folks like Tucker Carlson is a part
Speaker 2: of the Pilgrim society. So Tucker Carlson, who's most firmly
Speaker 2: rooted within a lot of spooky activity with his father,
Speaker 2: who I would actually argue has done a lot of
Speaker 2: libertarian type of activities. You know, we're artists of things. Again,
Speaker 2: a lot of these these groups and unintelligent agencies, they
Speaker 2: like to get involved in the same battlefield. So saying
Speaker 2: that they're all involved in one thing is not exactly
Speaker 2: the case. Far more less black and white, more gray
Speaker 2: than that. Let's say, for example, Dick Carlson, Tucker's dad,
Speaker 2: out to the transgenidor to campaign nationally. He's the first
Speaker 2: journalist to do that in America in nineteen seventy four,
Speaker 2: outing a man who decided to be a woman professional
Speaker 2: tennis player. This is a big, big big outrage against
Speaker 2: them for doing so. But it is that element fighting
Speaker 2: against that globalist element or anti liberty element, and we
Speaker 2: see that primarily operating in our current times. One of
Speaker 2: the major areas is the Pilgrim Society and we see
Speaker 2: somebody like Chucker Carlson's part of that. Is he part
Speaker 2: of that because he's part of that group? Is he
Speaker 2: part of that? As an infiltration? We see again the
Speaker 2: same thing going on with all these groups. The pope
Speaker 2: is an American pope of French Protestant origins with ken
Speaker 2: folk in the French chapter of the Society of the
Speaker 2: Cincinnati the Templars. He's a descendant of the Templars, is
Speaker 2: what I'm saying there. So we have a descendant of
Speaker 2: the Templars in the Vatican seat today. So what I'm
Speaker 2: getting on is there's a lot of things that you
Speaker 2: know aren't as black and white as they see them.
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot of infiltration. And you
Speaker 2: see somebody like Manly p Hall is doing all this occultism.
Speaker 2: What is this true purpose?
Speaker 1: M Yeah, I mean, and I think too, like some
Speaker 1: of the things that you'll see is a big pile
Speaker 1: of truth with a lie embedded in it.
Speaker 2: Lots of that, isn't There's a lot of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's a lot, especially around the Templars, isn't it. Everyone
Speaker 2: say all the Templars invented banking. All the Templars are
Speaker 2: this powerful group. Now, when you talked about the Knights
Speaker 2: of Malta, the Tweotalic Knights, they didn't get put down
Speaker 2: like the Templars did. The Vatican invented banking, not the Templars,
Speaker 2: who then employed by the Vatican. So again, a lot
Speaker 2: of things are misdescribed today and and done so in
Speaker 2: a misinformation fashion, Like you're saying.
Speaker 1: I've also heard that it was Arab people who invented banking.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't have a dog in fight here.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I don't. But you know, did you
Speaker 1: see did you see that the Vatican is putting out
Speaker 1: this this mega concert with like John Legend and Pharrell
Speaker 1: and Carol g.
Speaker 2: No. I did not see that, wild bro, I just
Speaker 2: saw it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's like, is this the end of the world
Speaker 1: or what? Why was the Vatican putting on John Legend concerts?
Speaker 2: Well, do you remember at the that's the emails at
Speaker 2: the height of the Kevin space the accusations Kevin Spacey
Speaker 2: was hiding out with his then boyfriend Prince Andrew along
Speaker 2: with Tony Podesta in Vatican City. Numerous reports and sidings
Speaker 2: they're in. So makes you wonder again with these factional divides,
Speaker 2: what is really going on in this world? Are all
Speaker 2: these people working together? Well, they all want to be
Speaker 2: in the same battleground and playground, and they have factional
Speaker 2: disputes that are within these groups.
Speaker 1: Man, just Chrissy Teagan, right, that's John Legend's wife.
Speaker 2: Well, dude, Kevin Spacey just was that can Film festival.
Speaker 2: This new movie. Dude, you know, this is the dude
Speaker 2: who's got numerous accusation is a very hood rad shit,
Speaker 2: you know. And all of those witnesses died. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: with the exception of one who seems to got paid off,
Speaker 2: but the other ones met a mysterious demise.
Speaker 1: All right, it's got the JFK air to it, Like
Speaker 1: a lot of the witnesses just seem to die suddenly,
Speaker 1: especially the people who are at the hospital who witness
Speaker 1: JFK's body. A lot of those people they killed, like
Speaker 1: two hundred people who worked in those hospitals.
Speaker 2: Clean up crew, Dude, cleanup crew Aisle six.
Speaker 1: It's wild. It's wild.
Speaker 2: So that little demonic creature I covered it. I can't
Speaker 2: find the actual dig but it is. We can. You
Speaker 2: want me to fast forward through my show here, I
Speaker 2: will find it for us here to close out the show.
Speaker 1: But that's okay, bro, we can can.
Speaker 2: Check it out my Death to Disney show. I did
Speaker 2: discussing how I believe Disney's demonic creature and I and
Speaker 2: I was, I was wishing the hurricane at the time
Speaker 2: was going to take out Orlando's disney World, not the people,
Speaker 2: just just the demonic mouse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I'm sold on
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: It looks just like Disney or.
Speaker 2: I just I I apologize I shouldn't. Well, well, what's
Speaker 2: going on there? Well my apologies. This is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, why don't we Why don't we close this out?
Speaker 2: Bro?
Speaker 1: This has been a good one.
Speaker 2: Yeah. My computer's acting jacked up right now, thank you, sir.
Speaker 2: I think it might be it might be possessed by
Speaker 2: a demonic mouse itself.
Speaker 1: How about do you need to share anything else?
Speaker 2: No, No, that was it. I was just trying to
Speaker 2: close that out therefore.
Speaker 1: Well, no, that's I'm forever intrigued by the ancient demon
Speaker 1: Mickey Mouse. I think there's a lot more stuff like
Speaker 1: that than people realize. They're speaking of a clean up crew.
Speaker 1: You know, there was most certainly a clean up cleanup
Speaker 1: crew involved with the masking and hiding and burying of
Speaker 1: a lot of artifacts like that. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: stuff out there just like that that will never see
Speaker 1: And speaking of the Vatican, a lot of it's below
Speaker 1: that in their labyrinth of hidden files and caverns.
Speaker 2: You ain't getting there, you ain't cancer. And but I
Speaker 2: would say, folks wanta everyone wants to say their lot
Speaker 2: stuff hitting there. You're probably not wrong. A lot of
Speaker 2: folks want to say there. Look at the Pyramids, a
Speaker 2: lot of secrets, terrible. What's underneath there? No one asks
Speaker 2: what's underneath the foot that our feet every day here
Speaker 2: in Atlantis, America. Yeah, there's a lot of shit here
Speaker 2: underneath a lot of history we don't know about that
Speaker 2: that is not even underneath, it's above ground, and we
Speaker 2: still don't recognize.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean, and that's another thing, man Like
Speaker 1: people are going to have to stop going to the
Speaker 1: government when they make or find I'm sorry, but if
Speaker 1: you find something, do not contact the Smithsonian. I think
Speaker 1: that needs to be put out there, like like I
Speaker 1: don't know, contact your local podcaster at least gets the
Speaker 1: beverage of it.
Speaker 2: First, contact your local muppet. You have a better you
Speaker 2: have a better chance, a better survival rate of anything
Speaker 2: going on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, yeah yeah, so yeah, man, this has been great.
Speaker 2: I thank you for your time, sir, And if I
Speaker 2: can give you one click quick note to make it
Speaker 2: emphasize the point you just make and to bring it
Speaker 2: back to our very relevant example of that. There's a
Speaker 2: couple of fellas trying to find that old Knights templear treasure,
Speaker 2: the ones that bifurcated during the Civil War, someone with
Speaker 2: the Union, someone with the South, when the Society of
Speaker 2: Cincinnati disbanded there what we now know is the Civil War.
Speaker 2: They're a little feud that Confederate gold, the southern half
Speaker 2: of that Night's tumbler and gold, some of it was
Speaker 2: found in a cash in western Pennsylvania. Those fellas contacted
Speaker 2: the authorities and the FBI and not only try to
Speaker 2: arrest them later, they stole the gold.
Speaker 1: Yes, I've heard about this. Those guys are still alive, right,
Speaker 1: those treasure hunters.
Speaker 2: To my understanding them, but they've been threatened, sued and
Speaker 2: by the rest threatening of arrest, sued by I think
Speaker 2: they got one of them got sued by the federal government.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's that guy? Do you remember whose name?
Speaker 2: JJ?
Speaker 1: If you don't want it's okay.
Speaker 2: It's they have a treasure hunting company. But I don't
Speaker 2: remember their names without my brain now. But that dispute
Speaker 2: started ten years I guess. I think it only finally
Speaker 2: ended two years ago in court, and there's been losses.
Speaker 1: I've heard that guy on a podcast. It's been a year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I heard that guy podcast. Tell that story.
Speaker 2: You're better let call on your muppet than your These
Speaker 2: local authorities help you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, bro, the FBI, So, I mean, that's what.
Speaker 2: They do, go arrest your threatening to ruin your life
Speaker 2: and then steal your goal.
Speaker 1: That's what they think happened with that John Swift silver mine.
Speaker 1: They think that the government found it long ago, and
Speaker 1: that the FBI has been the one like telling people
Speaker 1: to go out and look for it.
Speaker 2: Well. On the note of misinformation, you don't think these
Speaker 2: groups internally within these factions have been feeding each other
Speaker 2: misinformation for centuries over the locations. So when we wonder
Speaker 2: why folks like those Stonewall Jacks or the other Confederate
Speaker 2: General was raiding Union Masonic lodges are built on mound sites,
Speaker 2: well they may have been fed disinformation.
Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know, you know, just just on the
Speaker 1: side and though here since I brought up the Swift
Speaker 1: Silver mine, I don't know how much you know about
Speaker 1: that potentially looked in.
Speaker 2: I'm familiar with it, but I don't don't. I don't
Speaker 2: know a ton about it.
Speaker 1: It's interesting, man, like I don't have all the information,
Speaker 1: just like neatly shelved and ready to go in my
Speaker 1: mind right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no worries, man, I can't even find my demonic
Speaker 2: mound situation from then.
Speaker 1: Oh you're good man. But there there are uh coded
Speaker 1: treasure maps or information with a cipher. There's a cipher
Speaker 1: involved with that, and it ties into some of the documents,
Speaker 1: the original Founding Father documents, like like the Declaration of
Speaker 1: Independence and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: Sir, I would believe you, But I saw this already
Speaker 2: in a film. It was called National Treasure.
Speaker 1: So yeah, exactly, But apparently that's the case.
Speaker 2: I think that sh it's real dude. Again, I think
Speaker 2: a lot of this stuff's unknown. There's folks that do
Speaker 2: know about stuff. There's just in from and misinformation amongst
Speaker 2: this group. So there's confusion everywhere, and I think a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff is not known where things are buried
Speaker 2: still to this day.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and and to your point, like it seems
Speaker 1: like every other thing I'm talking about these days on
Speaker 1: this show, there's people don't think it's real and there's
Speaker 1: a movie made after it, so they think that it's
Speaker 1: all just fictional stuff. Well, what are we finding here?
Speaker 1: Is like the more and more I continue down my
Speaker 1: podcasting little road here, I'm finding that, Okay, the movies
Speaker 1: are about the real life stuff like the freaking Crystal skulls.
Speaker 2: Man, and they tell you that in the movie. So
Speaker 2: that way someone can say, oh, you just saw it
Speaker 2: in the movie, buddy, Yeah, that way you can post
Speaker 2: it on ready. You can post all these legitimate facts
Speaker 2: about the Templars and America on Ready and cut, and
Speaker 2: some of them reply, yeah, nice, nice tripile that sounds
Speaker 2: like national treasure. Three? Was that literally? Was the response
Speaker 2: I got?
Speaker 1: Is that the person who said that is that who
Speaker 1: I think it is?
Speaker 2: No? No, no, yeah, no, that guy had a difference.
Speaker 2: This was just a random part, but I was trying
Speaker 2: to have legitimate conversations with the other man of ancient
Speaker 2: American history lore.
Speaker 1: There awesome man, all right, j J another good one.
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Speaker 2: I discussed on Sundays and then been unpacking the anatomy
Speaker 2: of the Satanic Panic on Thursdays and then nine to fifteen,
Speaker 2: all of them at nine fifteen PMS. But Wednesdays I
Speaker 2: do a film review and a cult and Oresto Terre.
Speaker 2: Can be great to have you on one of those
Speaker 2: panels here in the future. If you're a fan of
Speaker 2: any film specifically Tim, by all means, please let me
Speaker 2: know will be convene on some of those matters. There's
Speaker 2: a lot of this ain't we could do. We could
Speaker 2: even do National Treasure, sir, not number three like that
Speaker 2: on Reddit was proposing. But you know the first and
Speaker 2: second because there's a lot of stuff in there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like a like an esoteric review what Yeah.
Speaker 2: Because again, once you put in those films, people are like, oh,
Speaker 2: what is that the divintion code? You have a for example,
Speaker 2: that Priory Scion story that's old earlier. What do you
Speaker 2: would you watch too many divention codes? Bud? Either you
Speaker 2: got somebody from the Priory Scion stocking. Well, here's the deal.
Speaker 2: I am again descended from nineteen to those twenty five
Speaker 2: templars of the Magna Carta. And that's without consideration of
Speaker 2: maybe one or two more with you know, George. I'm
Speaker 2: not even considering the factor of George there right when
Speaker 2: he's des sending up ten, he's got two. I don't
Speaker 2: have my other mother trees, so tend it could be
Speaker 2: twenty one of those twenty five and again my son
Speaker 2: being twenty four, So why wouldn't I have a Priory
Speaker 2: Sion member inserting themselves in my life? If these tales
Speaker 2: are true, I'm saying, if there is evidence to substantiate
Speaker 2: these claims, well there's evidence right there. So I'm saying
Speaker 2: these things are relevant. These things exist today. I do
Speaker 2: find I find it they're put in the films in
Speaker 2: which to discredit these things that way. Oh what do
Speaker 2: you priory sign? Which you watch DaVinci Code? You know
Speaker 2: what I mean? So what are you Night's Sember America?
Speaker 2: Would you watch two much National Treasure? Buddyh go go
Speaker 2: catch some more Disney movies like that Demonic Demon they
Speaker 2: found in a Mound?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, no, I mean I'd love to join you
Speaker 1: for one of those, man, But there's there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of stuff. And like I said, man, even that whichever
Speaker 1: whichever Indiana Jones film it was that featured Petra Uh.
Speaker 2: That'd be number three with the legendary scotsman Sean Connery, sir.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like somebody on his right, on Lucas's writing team,
Speaker 1: or maybe even Lucas himself, was clued in to this
Speaker 1: mysterious location before the rest of the world knew about it.
Speaker 1: I just find that interesting.
Speaker 2: Do you find it also interesting? It stars a man
Speaker 2: of Templar heritage who which the legendary scotsman Sean Connery.
Speaker 1: Oh see Templar.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's got templar heritage.
Speaker 1: Heritage. Yeah, interesting man, Yeah, uh oh yeah. And one
Speaker 1: more thing, like with the esoteric review thing, did you
Speaker 1: ever do that movie? Uh? What's it called? It's got
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise and it's got the Devil in it. Do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about? Oh?
Speaker 2: Fantasy?
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to do that, sir, we can
Speaker 2: certainly we can do that in the future as well.
Speaker 2: We got I got plenty of Wednesdays then Fridays. We've
Speaker 2: been a couple of barn burners on these topics of
Speaker 2: ancient America on a Friday show. But highly recommend folks
Speaker 2: for at least four nights a week. You'll find me
Speaker 2: their live ever at Operations GCD.
Speaker 1: Cool man, Thanks brother, Thank.
Speaker 2: You, sir. I appreciate the conversation. You're a man with
Speaker 2: many details, Tim, and I enjoy your thoughts and oftentimes,
Speaker 2: like I accused you of before, you're in a brain hole.
Speaker 2: You got a lot of good ideas. I like where
Speaker 2: your head's at. And uh, you know, there's a lot
Speaker 2: more to discuss on these topics. I think there's a
Speaker 2: lot more to uncover because not only we've been propagandaied, again,
Speaker 2: that propaganda has caused people to actually go down the
Speaker 2: actual pass of the facts and use logic and reason.
Speaker 2: When we look at a cross mound, we look in
Speaker 2: the land of the temp and sitting in the land
Speaker 2: of the templars. Let's put two and two together and
Speaker 2: call it a templar. You know, some sort of connection there, right,
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying the templar has built that. I'm
Speaker 2: saying there's some sort of bloodline connections of ancestral heritage here.
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