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Speaker 1: Broadcasting from Studio A. Here at Proven Winners Color Choice Shrubs.

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It's time for the Gardening Simplified Show with Stacy Hervella me,

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Rick weisst and our engineer and producer Adrianna Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Well, don't look now, but summer.

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Speaker 1: Is halfway through, Wow, and it gets hot. There's a

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lot of watering involved. Maybe we get a little bit weary.

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So we're going to dedicate part of today's show to that.

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As a matter of fact, we're going to be transitioning

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from our Great Gardens in the United States to a

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regular Gardening Simplified Show format.

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Speaker 2: But we've got a few.

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Speaker 1: Gardens to go to wrap up that series. And thank

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you to all of you who have reached out to

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us and said they've really enjoyed the series and look

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forward to visiting some of these gardens. So to kick

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things off today, we're going to wrap up our Great

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Gardens series by getting to something I've been looking forward to,

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Stacy's number one bucket list garden.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I can tell you this that Stacy is highly respected

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in the horticultural industry. I have tremendous respect for education,

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her experience, and when she says to me this one's

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number one on my bucket list.

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Speaker 2: I intend to listen.

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Speaker 1: So Stacy take it away, because I can't wait to

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hear about this number one buck Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, I should clarify that it's my number one bucket

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list garden in the US.

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Speaker 2: Okay, guys, I.

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Speaker 3: Definitely have other bucket list gardens around the world, sure,

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but this is one in the US that I have

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wanted to visit since the very first time that I've

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heard of it.

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Speaker 4: I have not yet visited it.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you the research that I did for

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this show has made me even more excited to go.

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So I'm going to start prioritizing a trip here soon.

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Speaker 1: I can see why, because I know what the garden is,

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and the characters and the history, and there's layers of history.

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Speaker 4: Here right yes.

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Speaker 3: And you know, as I said a multiple times during

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this American Garden series, the only thing better than a

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great garden is a great story about the great garden.

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And this is definitely that garden. So, without further ado,

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the garden is Gana Walska's lotus Land also known as

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Lotus Land, though technically known as Gana Walska's Lotus Land

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in Santa Barbara California. And if you haven't heard of

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this garden, well, of course, if you are watching on YouTube,

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Adriana is putting in all sorts of wonderful b roles,

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so you can kind of see it for yourself and

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get the flavor of it. But definitely want to look

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at the website. Wow, this is such an amazing place. Okay,

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So why is it called Gana Walska lotus Land? What

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even is Gana Walska? Well, it's a better question. Who

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was Gana Walska? And wow, was she a character? Now

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we've talked about a lot of characters through the course

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of this entire series, and she may just take the cake.

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Speaker 2: I think she takes the cake.

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Speaker 3: So she was born in Poland or really on the

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Russia Poland border in eighteen eighty seven, and from a

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young age she had a passion for opera and she

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devoted her younger years to becoming an opera singer. And

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no shade on Gona Walska, because she is amazing, but

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she was not a great opera singer. And every time

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she performed, she got roasted, as they say in current parlance,

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by the press, and like they were like mean about it,

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like although I did read that there was a performance

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where she had rotten tomatoes thrown in her in South America,

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Speaker 4: I thought that was just a cliche.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately it did happen to Mss Walska in one

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of her in one of her performances. And so she

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took lessons for most of her life. One teacher was

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quoted as saying, work as I did, I could not

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teach Ghana Waltska to sing so big yikes. It is

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said that her failed opera career inspired parts of the

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film Citizen k Oh Wow wow, right, yeah, And I

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a character that was based on her and her failed

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opera career, and that's considered the greatest American film of

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all time by many many people. But what Kana Wolska

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was was absolutely beautiful, and she, you know, as one

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an opera singer. She had a dramatic presence and a

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flair for the dramatic that carried over in everything that

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see even more online. It's just amazing, just absolutely amazing.

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a bikini and cleaning out her pond, one of her

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many ponds at the garden, and she looks just as glamorous.

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cleaning out a garden pond, they're wearing like waiters and

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they're looking like, you know, a drowned rat. Well, no,

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not Ganawalska. She is looking absolutely radiant and amazing while

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she cleans out her lily pond. So, anyway, she was beautiful,

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she was full of character, and in the course of

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her life she had six husbands. Four of these husbands

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were obscenely wealthy. Many of them, I believe four of

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them passed away, two of them ended in divorce. Not

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casting aspersions here and saying that she was one of

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those kind of wives, But anyway, so six times some

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of them were obscenely rich, and so during the course

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of being married to obscenely rich men, she amassed an

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amazing collection of jewelry. At one point she had a

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line of perfumes named after her. You can still find

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forty one, with the encouragement of her sixth and final husband,

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who was a Tibetan Buddhist scholar, they buy this beautiful

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property and they name it Lotus Land because it is

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intended to be a study center for Tibetan Buddhism, and Lotus,

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of course, is a sacred flower in Buddhism. And they're

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going to house his huge library of Tibetan Buddhism books,

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and host them. And that's what this house was intended

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to become. Well, he passes away before any of that

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can be realized, and she instead turns her attention to

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making this property into one of the most amazing gardens

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that has ever been constructed in this country. So that

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she says, as she built her garden, this is a

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direct quote. Now the word impossible does not exist in

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my vocabulary anymore. Nothing is impossible. And another great quote

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from her that I think really kind of sets us

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up to go into the garden here, I am an

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enemy of the average.

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a thirty eight acre garden, which is bonkers for this

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of your garden goals, sure to really just separate it

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out into those different themes. So it really very much

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centers around water. There are a number of different ponds

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pinache that they just come off as amazing.

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a vision and desire to build out this garden that

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she ends up selling her entire jewelry collection to fund

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the purchase of more plants and the continued building of

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the garden. And like this woman loved her jewelry, like

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I don't even care about the jewelry anymore. All I

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specimen and had people, you know, gardeners and so forth

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seeking out just these amazing specimen plants for her from

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all over the world, and they came back. You can

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still see those at Lotus Land today. There is an

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Abalony pond that is all lined with abalone shells, and

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there's this multi tiered waterfall of giant clamshells, which you

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can't collect giant clam shells anymore, it's like illegal to

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it is simply amazing, and there's just so much to

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in my previous job, and I have seen the way

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that a good photographer can make even a fairly average

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garden look absolutely glorious.

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it's breathtaking. There are just you know, it's just I

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can't even explain how great it is. So one thing

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that you need to know about Lotus Land it is

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in a residential area, so visitation is very, very limited. Yes,

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probably not quite. I'm sure there's night clubs that are

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you do need to make a reservation well in advance.

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reservations every year, they just go like that. You are

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not getting in without a reservation. So if this sounds

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Lotus Land reservation planning the entire trip around my Lotus

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hope that you at least look at the photos or

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if you're watching YouTube, you've seen it. Just an amazing

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garden built by an amazing person, and I want to

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Speaker 1: And my takeaway on that, Stacey, is that Ghana was

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a very complicated person. Yes, and some people approach gardening

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as though it's complicated, and what she did was more

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or less compartmentalized and developed rooms, the same thing we

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advise people to do. I always advise people to garden

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and bite sized pieces.

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we're going to take a little break. When we come back.

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and welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show, where we

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are officially winding up are a tour of American gardens.

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So I have four more to get through. I'm going

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to do it fast. These are all really cool gardens,

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one of which I have a couple of which I

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have been to. But I will go quickly and just

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Speaker 1: You've been there, right, Golden Gate Park. I mean I

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of position in American history. Golden Gate Park created or

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hosted the first World's Fair west of the Mississippi, which

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is obviously huge. After the nineteen oh six earthquake in

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San Francisco, it housed two hundred thousand suddenly homeless people

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who were camping in the park. It just has incredible

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trees gardens, and you know, especially if you're coming from

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a cooler climate like ours, or really any place sort

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of east of California, the trees and things that you're

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going to see in this park are like nothing else

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you have seen before. I mean, just amazing specimens and

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unique species. It also is the home of the very

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first Japanese garden in the United States, and that is

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quite interesting because you know, I think so many people

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nowadays think of Japanese gardens as are Japanese themed gardens

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is like the garden, right like, because they are so

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manicured to a large extent, and so for a lot

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of people who go around to a garden, they don't

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necessarily feel like they are in a garden until they

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visit a Japanese garden and they see that this has

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been very deliberate, very planned out, that the plants are

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very highly maintained, so it kind of fits I think

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the average description, the average idea that most people have

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of a garden. Of course, during all of the anti

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Japanese sentiment during World War Two, it got renamed and

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there's just horrible stories about what they did to the

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owners and gardeners who were taking care of the garden

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through that. But things did finally improve and in nineteen

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fifty two it started to grow again and the Japanese

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caretakers and designers were reinstated. The number one thing that

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Speaker 4: Have you visited it?

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Speaker 4: Okay, that bridge.

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Speaker 2: Is incredible a photo lot right.

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Speaker 3: If you have been to the garden, you know exactly

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what we're talking about. It is called the moon bridge.

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It's it's almost in what it makes a full circle

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in the water, but it is such a strong and

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high arch that it's more like climbing a ladder than

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crossing a bridge. To go up it, it's like these

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kind of wooden rungs that you have to kind of

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climb up. It's really really cool, really like nothing else.

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cross it because it's the kind of thing that would

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make you say, hmm, I'm surprised they let people still

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do this because it's a little bit dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Grandson, All, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm sure you.

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Speaker 3: And also in the park is a San Francisco Botanical Garden,

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so an absolute muscya for incredible specimens and species you

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will not find hardly anywhere else in this country. Because,

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like we were saying about the Huntington Garden, they can

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grow anything, so they do lots of cool Australian plants

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as well. Now, since we are in the Bay Area,

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is a garden that I had also always wanted to visit,

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and I was very very fortunate to visit it on

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a or a couple of years ago. It is a

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private garden that is now open to the public. And

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Ruth Bancroft was a teacher. She was actually going to

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go to school to be an architect, and then in

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nineteen twenty nine the stock market crashed and she said, hmm,

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I may not have a bright future ahead as an

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architect if there's not a lot of money out there.

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So I'm going to become a teacher. Of the world

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will always need teachers. But I think what you really

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see when you visit this garden is that her penchant

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for architecture, her penchant for structure and design really translate.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: Now, this is a garden almost entirely of cac Dian succulents.

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they are done so incredibly well. And if you love

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cactiane succulents, if you love the structure and shape that

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they bring to a garden, it is this is one

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of the best places that you can go to see that.

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I love this when I was reading about the garden,

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this is quite interesting. She believes wrongly that smaller plants

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in smaller containers established better, and she insisted that nothing

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larger than a one gallon plant ever be planted.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing, that's amazing.

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Speaker 1: And I've watched videos on Ruth Bancroft once again a character.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a task master. She was like, you

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do this.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, this is my garden.

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Speaker 3: You're doing it my way exactly. It doesn't matter what

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you think, it doesn't matter what you know. You're doing

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it my way.

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Speaker 1: And she makes me think of one of the first

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mentors I had in the garden center industry.

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Speaker 2: She had served in the.

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she was the same way identical type lady. And when

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you heard her come walking through the garden center, always

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wearing high heels, click click click, and a task master, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It was amazing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so probably very similar.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Ruth Bancroft invited a gentleman named Frank Cabot over to

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her garden. And you know, she has a huge collection,

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and I think among like plant collecting societies, her reputation

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really kind of preceded her. So Frank Cabot comes to

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her garden. He was a great gardener in and of himself,

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a great garden designer, And as he's walking around her garden,

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he asks her, what's going to happen to this garden

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when you die? And she was like, I don't know.

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I mean, this is pre Silicon Valley, this is in

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Silicon Valley. So of course, if things were different then

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she probably would have said, well, I'm going to sell

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this and my ancestors are going to make a million,

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couple million dollars. But now she says, you know, I

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don't really know what I'm going to do with this

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garden when I died. She wasn't even that old at

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the time, but he knew what an extraordinary garden it was,

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and that is when in this conversation he and she

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came up with the idea for the Garden Conservancy. And

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the Garden Conservancy is such an amazing organization. I'm fortunate

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enough to have worked with them when I lived in

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New York, and they are instrumental in conserving and preserving

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private gardens for public use.

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Speaker 4: They also help private.

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Speaker 3: Gardeners open up their gardens to the public and publicize that.

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So if you love to live vicariously through people who

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have amazing gardens and they're not all just like incredible

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gardens that you are on a table, it's such a

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great organization you'll definitely want to check them out and

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see if there are any open gardens through the Garden

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Conservancy in your area. But Ruth Bankraft Garden is where

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it starts. Now, before we leave the Bay Area, I

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have to talk about a person whose gardens you cannot

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visit because they are almost all private gardens. But this

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person is Thomas Church. And Thomas Church was active in

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the nineteen fifties nineteen sixties and designed a ton of

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incredible gardens for I guess what you would now call

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mid century modern homes who are being built in which

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were being built in California by all sorts of well

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known architects. And what Thomas Church did was really kind

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of shift the way people think about their backyards and

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started to help people think of them more as an

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extension of their home, another room, an outdoor room. So

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we talked about outdoor rooms and kind of garden rooms.

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This is more of a situation where your backyard is

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just another room in your house that you're going to

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furnish in a certain way, that you are going to

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circulate through in a certain way, that is going to

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have specific purposes, just like every other room in your house.

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And he wrote this wonderful book with a title that

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I Adore Gardens Are for People. And of course, if

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you can find a vintage copy of this book, it's

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very valuable, but it is still in print if you

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want a newer copy. And again, his work was almost

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entirely private, so there are very few gardens, if any,

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that you can actually visit, but it's worth knowing about

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him because he was so instrumental in a period where

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Americans were really thinking differently about their backyards. He were

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a second book called Your Private World, and these were

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some of the first books I think that started to

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really demystify landscape design for the average homeowner. So fascinating person.

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Now left here, We're gonna move up to Portland, Oregon

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to the Lan Sioux Chinese Garden. We talked a lot

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about Japanese gardens. A lot of people love to visit

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Japanese gardens in the US. Not a lot of Chinese

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gardens in the US. And they are so dramatically different

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than Japanese gardens, and so we're seeing and so interesting.

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So this is a relatively new garden. It was built

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in September of two thousand. It is related to Portland,

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Oregon's sister city.

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Speaker 4: Which is su Suzo.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry if you speak Chinese, and I'm totally butchering

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this in China, and the name translates in Mandarin to

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the garden of awakening orchids, even though it is actually

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Lan su is the land in Portland and the Sioux

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and Suzho, so that's where the name actually came from.

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And they found a Chinese translation for it has a

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beautiful tea house in the center of it that you

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can have tea, and it's based around a pond, and

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it's kind of it's very structural and it has I

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think Ricky would really love it if you haven't been

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there yet, because it has a lot of those wonderful

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moongates and really incredible sculpted gates that you use to

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pass from one garden room to the other. It's a

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very unique garden, really focused on sculptural rocks, natural rocks.

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And I have to tell you, you know, I'm not the

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kind of person who always goes to a cafe when

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I am in a garden, but if you go to

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this garden, you definitely want to make sure you take

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the time to have a cup of tea in their

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tea house. Contemplate the garden. It is amazing. Now our

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last garden is Blowdell Reserve on Bainbridge Island in Washington. Now,

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this is not a garden I have been to, but

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I am really quite fascinated about it by it. It

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was originally the private home of Virginia and Prentice Blowdell.

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Prentice was quote the reluctant heir to his father's timber business,

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so he was a naturalist, he'd loved nature. His father's

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out there making a boatload of money cutting down trees

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and selling them for lumber. But he takes this opportunity

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to run the blumber mill to really institute new ideas

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of recycling, of conserving forests, of replanting, and really kind

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of changes the way people think about harvesting timber and

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the environmental impact of that. And he takes these environmental

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ideas and reinterprets them in this garden on Bainbridge Island

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in a way that you know when you read other

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people's experiences of going to this garden, where the garden

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and nature are distinct, but also kind of almost seamless.

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And this being Washington State and out in the ocean

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on Bainbridge Island or in the bay. It's lush, it's

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full of moss, it's full of gnarled trees covered in lichens.

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of really, what I think is I try to wrap

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this up real quickly here. All of these gardens are

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about the old Roman concept of the genius low side,

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the spirit of the place, and that's what makes a

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garden so special and so unique and makes it so

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memorable when you go there. That each of these gardens

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as a spirit that is either imbued in the natural landscape,

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is imbued by the energy that people put into it,

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by their vision and buy their spirit and the spirit

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of the land that is still there today. So with that,

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we are going to take a little break and I'm

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going to come back. We were talking about how it's

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halfway through summer. We're hot, our plants are dry, and

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we're talking all about it.

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Speaker 4: Stay tuned.

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out on YouTube, you definitely should. I mean, she puts

479
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,160
her all into every episode and always does a lot

480
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,039
makes our show so much better, but she really met

481
00:24:31,079 --> 00:24:32,200
the extra mile on these.

482
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Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel guilty because all I do is

483
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,960
come here and talk.

484
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,160
Speaker 2: She does all the hard work.

485
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,519
Speaker 3: Well, you see, we do the work up until the show,

486
00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:43,079
she does the work after the show. So together we

487
00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,799
all make a great team. So huge thanks to Adriana

488
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,960
from all of us and I know from all of

489
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,079
you as well. Also shout out to everybody who said

490
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,759
hi at the Cultivate show in the industry. I met

491
00:24:53,799 --> 00:24:55,759
some fans at the show and it was just so

492
00:24:55,839 --> 00:24:59,200
nice to hear from everybody, And you know, we sit

493
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,359
here in studio and we know people are watching, but

494
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,119
it's always so nice when people take the time to

495
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,079
say that they enjoy it, so thank you. It was

496
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,359
great to meet you all. Okay, it is halfway through summer.

497
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,960
It is halfway through medior no astronomical summer.

498
00:25:12,039 --> 00:25:13,799
Speaker 4: Meteorological meteorological.

499
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,599
Speaker 3: Yes, it's halfway through meteorological summer, which basically just means

500
00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,839
the months that you think of as summer, so June, July, August.

501
00:25:21,079 --> 00:25:24,680
It is not actually halfway through astronomical summer, which will

502
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,200
go until September. I didn't check the date twenty first

503
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:32,519
somewhere around there, not the usual equinox date, and you.

504
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 4: Know, that's kind of hard to believe. I'm sure this

505
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:35,559
is bad news for you.

506
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,079
Speaker 3: I'm sure for a lot of people, this is good

507
00:25:37,079 --> 00:25:39,200
news because they're especially with the weather that a lot

508
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:41,039
of people have been having in the country, not just

509
00:25:41,079 --> 00:25:43,759
in Michigan, they're probably like, bring it on.

510
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:47,440
Speaker 2: I'm loving this. Yeah, yeah, I love this.

511
00:25:47,559 --> 00:25:50,680
Speaker 3: Okay, but how do you really reconcile loving hot weather

512
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,240
and now having to water when I know that you

513
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:54,720
dislike hoses as much as I do.

514
00:25:54,839 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 1: I know it gets wearisome. It really does, the whole

515
00:25:58,039 --> 00:26:01,359
watering thing, and people start to get tired at this

516
00:26:01,519 --> 00:26:04,839
time of the year. The plants start to show it. So, yeah,

517
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,519
it's but that's why we're here. This is called the

518
00:26:07,599 --> 00:26:12,200
Gardening Simplified Show. We went on vacation and had a

519
00:26:12,279 --> 00:26:15,839
great time visiting gardens all over the United States. Now

520
00:26:15,839 --> 00:26:19,000
we're back to work because we're trying to simplify gardening

521
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:19,519
for people.

522
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,960
Speaker 3: Yes, well, I know one thing that I'm seeing a

523
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,279
lot in my neighborhood. Now Here in Michigan, we had

524
00:26:26,279 --> 00:26:29,640
a warm spring, then a cool spring, mostly a cool

525
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,200
summer where we had enough rain, and now all of

526
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,400
a sudden, we're having an extremely hot summer where we're

527
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,720
not getting nearly enough rain. Yes, we haven't had rain

528
00:26:36,839 --> 00:26:39,319
in a while, not enough rain anyway, and my plants

529
00:26:39,319 --> 00:26:40,920
are showing it. Some of my plants are looking a

530
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:43,359
real bad. Stuff that I don't usually have to water

531
00:26:43,559 --> 00:26:46,759
is looking like hello, little help here. But what I

532
00:26:46,799 --> 00:26:49,559
am seeing a lot in my neighborhood is a lot

533
00:26:49,599 --> 00:26:52,440
of trees losing a lot of leaves, so kind of

534
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:56,519
those inner leaves turning yellow and suddenly falling. And I

535
00:26:56,559 --> 00:26:58,519
think it's just a response to heat. I'm seeing it

536
00:26:58,519 --> 00:27:01,440
in my own magnolia as well. Okay, I think it

537
00:27:01,519 --> 00:27:04,000
is a response to the heat that we are having

538
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:07,079
as well as sort of a transition from enough rain

539
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,559
where we went probably six weeks without really having to

540
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,440
put any supplemental water at all because we had enough

541
00:27:12,519 --> 00:27:16,000
rain to you know, really no rain to speak of

542
00:27:16,039 --> 00:27:17,400
in the last two to three weeks.

543
00:27:17,599 --> 00:27:20,519
Speaker 1: Well, and that's been the problem. Feast or famine. It's

544
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:24,119
been a roller coaster ride. It was that way this winter.

545
00:27:25,079 --> 00:27:28,920
My friends in North Carolina have been struggling with severe

546
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,960
drought in North Carolina and there's other places in the

547
00:27:33,079 --> 00:27:38,279
United States. In winter, we had these constant freeze thaw cycles.

548
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:41,200
It did a number on the bud Leah's and a

549
00:27:41,279 --> 00:27:47,319
number of plants, Japanese maples, and so these fits of nature,

550
00:27:47,519 --> 00:27:50,039
so to speak, certainly are showing up.

551
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 3: In the plants definitely. Now if you are seeing yellowing

552
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,319
in your trees, and you also see at this time

553
00:27:56,359 --> 00:28:00,240
of year a lot of yellowing in panicle hydrangeas. As

554
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,039
long as that yellowing foliage is confined to the inner

555
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,240
portions of the plant and isn't super widespread, So as

556
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,079
long as it's kind of further back on the branches,

557
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:12,359
if it's in the center of the plant, it's really

558
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,640
not a cause for concern. I know a lot of

559
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,839
people freak out, but it's really like with a panicle

560
00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,119
Hydrangea is what's going on is just that as the

561
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,200
plant has grown through the season, it is starting to

562
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,599
shade its inner portions, and that makes those leaves less

563
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,799
effective at photosynthesizing, and so the plant's just like, hey,

564
00:28:30,799 --> 00:28:32,720
you're not doing a great job at making the energy.

565
00:28:32,799 --> 00:28:35,599
I don't really need to support you in this heat

566
00:28:35,759 --> 00:28:38,640
without enough water. I'm just going to take all that

567
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:42,319
chlorophyll that is in you leaf. I'm going to relocate

568
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:44,319
it to other parts where I can use it. That

569
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,400
makes the leaf turn yellow and it drops, So it's

570
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,920
not necessarily a cause for concern. You should be concerned

571
00:28:50,279 --> 00:28:53,319
if it starts appearing on the tips, if new growth

572
00:28:53,799 --> 00:28:57,519
starts to be compromised, that is definitely a sign that

573
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,359
things aren't going well. But as long as it's fine

574
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,119
to the inner portions, it's just the plant kind of

575
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,960
adapting to the heat in much the same way that

576
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:10,559
we are trying to adapt to the heat. Because so

577
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:14,359
don't freak out. It's widespread. Just again, as long as

578
00:29:14,359 --> 00:29:17,599
it's not taking over your whole plant, nothing to worry

579
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:18,599
about there.

580
00:29:18,839 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 1: I have a neighbor with a massive rhododendron, and now

581
00:29:22,519 --> 00:29:25,319
that they're done blooming, he wanted to stump it.

582
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: Oh he is the size.

583
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah again, so I went over there to help. After

584
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,039
it's done blooming, that's the best time to do it.

585
00:29:32,279 --> 00:29:34,920
But in essence, what we're trying to do is allow

586
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,640
additional light into the center of the plant. Again, because

587
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,880
it's very thin in the center. So yeah, one of

588
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:41,400
those things.

589
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And if you do any kind of preening like that,

590
00:29:44,119 --> 00:29:46,519
especially when it is so hot and dry, you're going

591
00:29:46,599 --> 00:29:49,200
to want to provide some supplemental water because that wound

592
00:29:49,359 --> 00:29:51,839
is going to give off a lot of water, and

593
00:29:52,079 --> 00:29:55,079
you know, you really want your plants during this type

594
00:29:55,079 --> 00:29:58,519
of weather. You want to avoid stress because if a

595
00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:03,079
plant gets stressed, it usually by vastly slowing or even

596
00:30:03,119 --> 00:30:07,359
shutting down growth temporarily. It needs to conserve its resources, right,

597
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,319
You can't just pick up and go somewhere else where

598
00:30:09,359 --> 00:30:11,839
things are better, So it has to kind of conserve

599
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,680
what it has, and so you need to do your

600
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:15,680
best to eliminate that stress.

601
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 4: Now.

602
00:30:16,359 --> 00:30:19,079
Speaker 3: Similarly, if you have a hydrange of blooming, it is

603
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,759
the height of hydrangel season. We've barely talked about hydrange

604
00:30:21,839 --> 00:30:24,640
is at all. So you know, I know our hydrange

605
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,440
haters out there.

606
00:30:25,319 --> 00:30:28,119
Speaker 4: Are probably happy. They're beautiful.

607
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, everything's looking really incredible in our gardens here. But

608
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:37,480
if your hydrange of blooms are browning prematurely, that is

609
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,920
a sign that they aren't getting enough water. And I

610
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,039
know that's frustrating for people because they finally come into

611
00:30:42,079 --> 00:30:45,680
bloom only to become brown and crispy. So you definitely

612
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,880
want to make sure that they are mulched. You know,

613
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,440
mulch is not just a winter thing for hydrangees. It's

614
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,400
super beneficial in the summer as well, where it can

615
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:58,000
help conserve moisture. Hydrangees are naturally shallow rooted, so those roots,

616
00:30:58,200 --> 00:30:59,960
being so close to the soil surface are going to

617
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,640
heat up from the sun. They're going to dry out

618
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:06,200
quickly because water is evaporating from the soil surface. And

619
00:31:06,359 --> 00:31:08,519
a shredded bark maulch, you want to try to avoid

620
00:31:08,559 --> 00:31:12,279
a rock mulch around hydrangeas. Shredded bark mulch will do

621
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:14,720
a lot. Now if you already have a rock mulch.

622
00:31:14,759 --> 00:31:16,960
And I don't know what it is about this year,

623
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,119
but I've heard from so many gardeners who send me

624
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,359
a picture of their hydrange of suffering and it's got

625
00:31:21,359 --> 00:31:23,000
a rock mault right up to the base.

626
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: What you can do?

627
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,359
Speaker 3: They don't appreciate that, And especially if you live in

628
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960
a really hot climate or you're more likely to have

629
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,319
those rock mulches, because in hot, dry climates, you don't

630
00:31:33,359 --> 00:31:35,960
usually want to have a bark mulch because it can

631
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,960
be a fire hazard. So what you want to do

632
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,880
is try to break that rock mulch away. If you

633
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,200
have any kind of landscape fabric or weed barrier beneath it,

634
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:47,880
make sure you cut that away for a good two

635
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,799
feet around the center of the plant. And then instead

636
00:31:50,799 --> 00:31:53,839
of putting the rock mulch back, put a regular mulch

637
00:31:54,279 --> 00:31:57,480
just in the vicinity of the plant. That is going

638
00:31:57,519 --> 00:31:59,400
to help keep it cool, whereas the rock mault really

639
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:02,640
heats up substantially around the plant. And especially if you

640
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,920
have a light colored rock mulch, reflects the sunlight back

641
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,240
on the planet, and hydrangers can definitely fry even in

642
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:11,240
you know, otherwise ideal conditions.

643
00:32:11,319 --> 00:32:13,599
Speaker 1: Well, for people who have watched or listened to the show,

644
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,839
they know that I talk to my plants and hydranges

645
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,200
are one of those plants that will talk back to you.

646
00:32:19,599 --> 00:32:20,359
Speaker 2: If you pay.

647
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,839
Speaker 1: Attention, you can determine what's going on. And by the way,

648
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,079
I wanted to mention to you, Stacey, you also know

649
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,759
that I'm a leaf shredder with my shredding machine, and

650
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:33,079
I'll tell you what. Shredded leaf mulch at the base

651
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:33,440
of my.

652
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 4: Hydranges definitely definitely make some.

653
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: Cool wet during this hot weather. So yeah, I don't

654
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,440
think it's a fig leaf of my imagination.

655
00:32:45,559 --> 00:32:46,319
Speaker 2: I think it works.

656
00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 3: And you know, the nice thing about doing about taking

657
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,279
this approach is from the street. So if you have

658
00:32:51,359 --> 00:32:53,640
rockmulch and you're afraid about how your buds are going

659
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:55,960
to look from the street, it's not going to make

660
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,000
any difference. People won't be able to tell that the

661
00:32:58,039 --> 00:32:59,880
mult doesn't go all the way up to the hydrange.

662
00:33:00,079 --> 00:33:02,880
You will see it looking on top of it from

663
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,359
your home or whatever, but it won't really make a

664
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,079
difference as people view it as they're driving by. So

665
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,079
definitely give those plants a little break if they are

666
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:12,079
browning out too quickly.

667
00:33:12,279 --> 00:33:15,000
Speaker 1: And important to point, I see so many people who

668
00:33:15,079 --> 00:33:18,960
rely on lawn irrigation to water these plants. This is

669
00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:21,559
not the time of the year for that. Great for

670
00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:25,440
your lawn, but some deep trickle watering with the hose

671
00:33:26,079 --> 00:33:27,759
will make a world of difference.

672
00:33:28,119 --> 00:33:31,119
Speaker 3: It does no for sure plant stained water right now.

673
00:33:31,119 --> 00:33:33,279
I mean this is you know, we have long days,

674
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,759
hot sun. They are photosynthesizing like crazy. Remember, for a

675
00:33:36,839 --> 00:33:39,759
plant to photosynthesize, it needs to have the stomata on

676
00:33:39,839 --> 00:33:43,279
the underside of its leaves open. That means water vapor

677
00:33:43,319 --> 00:33:45,920
is coming out. You need to replace that water that

678
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,880
they are losing to keep them growing vigorously. This is

679
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,359
especially important for re blooming shrubs. And I've heard from

680
00:33:53,359 --> 00:33:55,200
a lot of people who you know, here we are

681
00:33:55,279 --> 00:33:58,079
mid July. They're like, hey, my sonic blue, my Regila,

682
00:33:58,119 --> 00:34:01,839
my bloomerang Lilac isn't reblooming. If it gets stressed, it

683
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,559
will shut down growth. And the key to a good

684
00:34:04,599 --> 00:34:08,320
rebloom on these reblooming shrubs is to keep that growth

685
00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:11,679
coming vigorously, keep them in vigorous through growth. The more

686
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,880
new growth they put on, the more flower buds they

687
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,039
are going to create. So now is not the time

688
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:19,920
to say, eh, it's good enough. I get the feeling,

689
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,599
Believe me, I know, after you know you're out there

690
00:34:22,599 --> 00:34:24,480
and you're like, it is way too hot and sunny.

691
00:34:24,559 --> 00:34:27,320
Even with you know, my sun dressed and hat, I'm

692
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,599
still too hot forget about it. If you think you're hot,

693
00:34:31,599 --> 00:34:35,079
think about how your plants feel and try to muster

694
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,920
up the energy to keep them as hydrated as you

695
00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:39,679
need to be during this weather.

696
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:43,079
Speaker 1: And with that programming note, we should point out that

697
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,440
next week we get back to the mail bag and

698
00:34:45,559 --> 00:34:47,000
try and deal with all those issues.

699
00:34:47,039 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 3: Definitely all right, So we're gonna take a little break.

700
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,320
When we come back, we'll be hearing from Rick at

701
00:34:51,320 --> 00:35:00,440
his halfway point in summer. So stay tuned. Thanks listening

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Gardening Simplified Show. We're halfway through

707
00:35:17,639 --> 00:35:22,079
meteorological boy, that's tough to say summer, and I'll tell

708
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,800
you what's also tough for some people is the heat

709
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,639
and your plants are gonna need a little bit of help.

710
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Too.

711
00:35:28,559 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: Let's kick off this segment. It's been a while since

712
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,519
I've done this. How about a limb a rip?

713
00:35:32,639 --> 00:35:33,760
Speaker 4: Oh, yes, all.

714
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 2: Right, let's do it. Can't be leaf.

715
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Summer's halfway done. Had some success, had a good run.

716
00:35:39,679 --> 00:35:42,519
I planted from pillar to post. But a few of

717
00:35:42,519 --> 00:35:45,719
my plants are toast, just like me. They got too

718
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,199
much sun. They tell me, success is a mindset. We

719
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:53,519
celebrate winds, not regret. Meanwhile, the summer heat puts me

720
00:35:53,679 --> 00:35:57,559
on the hot seat to keep my plants watered and wet.

721
00:35:58,239 --> 00:36:02,679
Hanging baskets wilt on the orico, thirsty plants in pots

722
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:06,360
on the patio. With all the plant care, I juggle

723
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:09,760
at times. It's a struggle. But I'll tell you this

724
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,199
sure beats snow.

725
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,119
Speaker 3: You know how I know it has been extremely hot

726
00:36:15,159 --> 00:36:19,039
and dry because every day when I get home from work,

727
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:23,039
my bird bath is dry. Adriana saying she's having the

728
00:36:23,039 --> 00:36:25,159
same experience. Now, this did not happen to me. I

729
00:36:25,199 --> 00:36:26,840
don't think it happened to me last year, although we

730
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,000
did have some you know, hot spells, and last year

731
00:36:29,079 --> 00:36:32,960
was certainly dry overall. But the birds are going in

732
00:36:33,199 --> 00:36:37,480
and drinking so much and splashing so much that I

733
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,880
have to refill my bird bath every single day.

734
00:36:40,119 --> 00:36:44,039
Speaker 1: Hey, they're going to the pool. Yeah, that's fantastic. Yeah,

735
00:36:44,039 --> 00:36:47,079
it's a good reminder that we have to pay attention

736
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:51,599
in our landscape. So I would recommend one thing that

737
00:36:51,639 --> 00:36:56,800
I'm seeing out there, slime mold occurring on mulch, in

738
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:00,920
mulch area, shredded mulch areas. It's a good reminder, in

739
00:37:01,039 --> 00:37:03,760
my opinion. I do it in my landscape to stir

740
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,599
the mulch a little bit so it doesn't become hydrophobic.

741
00:37:07,599 --> 00:37:10,679
It's better for the plants, so stir the mulch.

742
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,800
Speaker 4: You know, I'm pretty lucky.

743
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 3: I don't need to stir my mulch because the possums

744
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:17,639
and the birds and the squirrels do it for me.

745
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, they do a lot of that, that's true.

746
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,639
Speaker 3: And you know, every day I come out, there's a

747
00:37:21,639 --> 00:37:24,639
different part that's all kind of ruffled up because they've

748
00:37:24,679 --> 00:37:27,880
been digging around looking for worms or grubs or nuts

749
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,440
that they buried. And I'm like, hey, thanks, guys, this

750
00:37:30,559 --> 00:37:33,239
is great, this is like, this is a great relationship.

751
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,400
You get a place to eat, and I get my

752
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:36,639
mulch stirred, and I don't.

753
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: Have to do this.

754
00:37:37,159 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: We're all in this together.

755
00:37:38,519 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly.

756
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: Another thing I've learned over the past few weeks. Hose

757
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:47,280
guides are really important in a landscape because again those

758
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,559
dog on hoses. Oh and by the way, also, I

759
00:37:50,679 --> 00:37:54,920
like to keep a few rags in convenient places in

760
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:58,039
my landscape to wipe the hose because as.

761
00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: You're dragging it around, right, that's the way.

762
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I get my shorts dirty and everything else.

763
00:38:03,079 --> 00:38:06,079
And so I'd like to have but hose guides because otherwise,

764
00:38:06,119 --> 00:38:09,519
you know, you do the karate chop thing to plants, and.

765
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 3: Yes, and you don't have to. There are nice hose

766
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,920
guides that you can buy if you want. I got

767
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,239
some from a garden Master gardener conference that I was

768
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:21,840
at that are a nice like metal pole with a

769
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,199
Fleur de lys welded on top of them. So I

770
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,119
just put those, you know, where I have to drag

771
00:38:27,159 --> 00:38:29,159
the hose. Kind of changes year to year, but it

772
00:38:29,199 --> 00:38:31,280
doesn't have to be that fancy, honestly, like a sturdy

773
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:34,840
bamboo steak or really any kind of sturdy steak can

774
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:37,480
work well. You can improvise with whatever you have. But

775
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:40,119
if you do have that spot where you pull the

776
00:38:40,119 --> 00:38:42,800
hose out and you end up dragging it over something.

777
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,079
Definitely a hose guide will help a lot to keep

778
00:38:45,159 --> 00:38:45,840
that from happening.

779
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just use pipe driven into the ground. But

780
00:38:49,679 --> 00:38:51,480
I guess aesthetically it.

781
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,360
Speaker 3: Isn't well, you know, it's it's a it's more of

782
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,840
a utilitarian thing than an aesthetic thing.

783
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 4: But if you can combine them so much the better.

784
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,599
Speaker 1: You bet feed your annuals. All right, We had a

785
00:39:02,639 --> 00:39:06,960
show on fertilizer and feeding when it comes to your annuals,

786
00:39:07,039 --> 00:39:12,079
especially those in containers. Stacey, thank goodness for water soluble

787
00:39:12,119 --> 00:39:13,159
fertilized for sure.

788
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:17,039
Speaker 3: Now I know that the folks at Provomina's annuals recommend

789
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:21,559
that you fertilize every third or fourth watering, which kind

790
00:39:21,559 --> 00:39:24,599
of makes sense, right, because that presumes that the more

791
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:27,320
you are watering, the more they're growing. So at this

792
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,239
time of year where they are growing super vigorously because

793
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,960
it's hot and they most annuals love the heat, at

794
00:39:33,039 --> 00:39:34,480
least the ones that are doing well right now in

795
00:39:34,559 --> 00:39:37,000
the annuals that don't love the heat have probably already

796
00:39:37,079 --> 00:39:40,000
kind of, you know, bit it, and you're only left

797
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,039
with the things that do love the heat, so I

798
00:39:42,079 --> 00:39:44,159
don't really keep track of it like that for myself,

799
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,719
but I do fertilize probably about every two weeks vegetables

800
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,360
and annuals, and I do, if possible, try to time

801
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:56,039
it for after a good rain, because you do ideally

802
00:39:56,119 --> 00:39:59,400
want to fertilize when the soil is wet. You don't

803
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:02,960
want to fertiliz drought stressed plants or really really dry soil.

804
00:40:03,199 --> 00:40:06,800
It can you know, fertilizers, whether they're organic or conventional,

805
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440
are quite high in salts, and so if you're putting

806
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,199
a ton of salty fertilizer into a dry soil, it

807
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:14,159
can definitely cause some problems, whereas if you're putting it

808
00:40:14,159 --> 00:40:17,239
into a moist soil, it's a much better experience. So

809
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,079
if you can time that for just after a good

810
00:40:20,159 --> 00:40:22,880
rain or a good watering, if rain is not obliging,

811
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:24,480
that's the best time to do that.

812
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 1: There you go, coming from the garden center industry, I

813
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,360
can tell you that when it gets super hot outside,

814
00:40:31,119 --> 00:40:34,840
go to a garden center, there aren't many people.

815
00:40:34,559 --> 00:40:37,519
Speaker 2: There at this time of are there plants though?

816
00:40:37,639 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: And there are plants. And my whole point is if

817
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,159
you're willing to do it, you can pick up some bargains. Yeah,

818
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,039
at this time of the year, because they're looking to

819
00:40:45,079 --> 00:40:46,400
move some of those plants.

820
00:40:46,639 --> 00:40:48,119
Speaker 3: And you know, that's a good time too to think

821
00:40:48,119 --> 00:40:51,800
about refreshing your containers. If something did you know, de

822
00:40:52,519 --> 00:40:55,119
or isn't looking as good as you wanted, or maybe

823
00:40:55,199 --> 00:40:58,719
it didn't do what you expected. You know. I tried

824
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:03,480
a new plant this year. It is a eucalyptus cool plant,

825
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,679
and I was like, hey, this color works great for

826
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,159
this little combination I'm doing, and it's growing well. I mean,

827
00:41:09,199 --> 00:41:10,840
it is as happy as can be in this heat.

828
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,760
And it's been interesting to kind of watch the color

829
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,199
change because it was quite blue, you know when I

830
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:17,119
got it, which I love. The blue is what I wanted,

831
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:20,000
and as it has gotten so hot, it's turned really

832
00:41:20,039 --> 00:41:23,639
really white as it kind of tries to deflect you know,

833
00:41:23,679 --> 00:41:27,199
that sunlight and heat. But what surprised me about this

834
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,920
plant is that it doesn't stand up on its own,

835
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,360
so I've had to stake it. You know, it would

836
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:36,559
work well, I guess if I had known that and

837
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:39,239
kind of planned for it. But it's almost like a

838
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,079
spiller in a container, and that was not what I

839
00:41:41,079 --> 00:41:44,159
intended for this container, so I staked it and now

840
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,119
it's growing like a tree, and it's sexually much happier,

841
00:41:46,159 --> 00:41:49,159
and it's growing really vigorously. But sometimes, you know, we

842
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,639
take a chance on things, you know, and we think

843
00:41:51,679 --> 00:41:53,400
it's gonna work out one way, and it doesn't. So

844
00:41:53,559 --> 00:41:56,840
there's no harm in either staking it or replacing it

845
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,559
if it's not working out the way that you thought.

846
00:41:58,679 --> 00:41:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good way to go.

847
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 1: I picked up some wrought iron, old metal pieces that

848
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:09,559
make perfect trellises. I've incorporated them in my landscape and

849
00:42:09,639 --> 00:42:13,239
right now as we speak, there's a Kinsley ghost that's

850
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,800
working up one of them. There's of course hyacinth beam

851
00:42:17,519 --> 00:42:23,480
and a sensational honeysuckle, so they look really really sharp. Also,

852
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:27,199
as I work in the garden this summer, I realized

853
00:42:27,199 --> 00:42:32,480
that I'm glad I gauged the soil mass properly in containers,

854
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,039
because when those plants grow, yeah, and they get big,

855
00:42:36,519 --> 00:42:38,800
and so you do have to gauge. And the more

856
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,480
soil mass you have in a container makes it a

857
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:44,079
little easier to maintain the plant, to keep it watered.

858
00:42:44,159 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure.

859
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: Now we were just talking about vines. How are your

860
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:47,480
cucumbers doing.

861
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,639
Speaker 1: Cucumber's doing great, working their way up that forty five

862
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,480
degree angle frame that I built.

863
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: Doing good.

864
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,679
Speaker 3: So I had an interesting cucumber experience this year. So

865
00:42:57,719 --> 00:42:59,480
I sewed my cumber seats. I sewed them a little

866
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,840
bit late because I planted peas on the same trelist

867
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:03,519
that I was going to use. I had to wait

868
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:05,760
till the peas were nearly done to plant the cucumbers.

869
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,719
But I thought, hey, no problem, you know, they'll still

870
00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:11,639
fruit and do just fine. So I planted them, you know,

871
00:43:11,679 --> 00:43:15,239
again later than expected, and I'll be doggone. I watched

872
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:20,159
sparrows hop into my vegetable garden, pick off a little

873
00:43:20,159 --> 00:43:23,000
piece of the cucumber leaves as they were germinating, hop

874
00:43:23,039 --> 00:43:25,519
out like show it to its little group of buddies

875
00:43:25,559 --> 00:43:26,960
that were just outside the garden.

876
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, and then they.

877
00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: Just took turns to I sat there and watched them

878
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,239
do this, and they destroyed every single cucumber seedling in

879
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,719
my garden in this matter.

880
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 4: It was wild.

881
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that. I mean, I've been

882
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,599
growing cucumbers for years. I've never seen birds just decide

883
00:43:41,639 --> 00:43:43,320
that they're I've never seen that, And I don't know

884
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,519
if it's I mean, I have two bird baths, so

885
00:43:45,559 --> 00:43:47,880
it's not like these things are starving for water in

886
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,519
my garden. I also water frequently enough that they could

887
00:43:50,519 --> 00:43:53,239
easily like land on say the silphium, which you know,

888
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,320
the cups are full of water the vegetable garden. So

889
00:43:56,519 --> 00:44:00,480
I had to resow my cucumber seeds. Wow, about two

890
00:44:00,519 --> 00:44:01,159
weeks ago, so.

891
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 4: They're coming up now.

892
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 3: I think the sparrows have moved on and decided to

893
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,280
do something else with their time. But the nice thing

894
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,119
is when everybody else's cucumbers are tired and done producing,

895
00:44:10,159 --> 00:44:12,760
I'm gonna be Yeah, I'm gonna be at peak cucumber.

896
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,239
So it's been, it's been, you know. I would just say,

897
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:18,559
if you did have an experience like this where you know,

898
00:44:18,639 --> 00:44:21,880
some animals decided that your seedlings would make a tasty snack,

899
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,760
it's not too late to continue trying.

900
00:44:24,199 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: That's cucumbersome.

901
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 3: It was with that, it was, and I'm just like,

902
00:44:27,800 --> 00:44:29,639
do I stop them or do I watch this like

903
00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:33,639
insane behavior just to like convince myself that is actually

904
00:44:33,679 --> 00:44:34,559
happening because it was wild.

905
00:44:35,639 --> 00:44:36,039
Speaker 2: Wow.

906
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:38,480
Speaker 1: Well, I want to make another suggestion, and that is

907
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:44,599
I purchased solar lighting for my back landscape, and of

908
00:44:44,639 --> 00:44:46,239
course this time of the year we get plenty of

909
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,800
sung right, so it charges them up and at night

910
00:44:49,599 --> 00:44:50,000
you have.

911
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 2: The solar lights.

912
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,280
Speaker 1: The whole point of it is this, I'm finding myself

913
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,079
in the evening, even into the darker hours, working in

914
00:44:58,159 --> 00:45:01,199
my garden when it's cooler outside, and because I have

915
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:04,599
that solar lighting, I'm able to do it. So just

916
00:45:04,639 --> 00:45:09,320
a suggestion, and also in appreciation for the plants in

917
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,960
my landscape that have a silvery type foliage to them,

918
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,239
like the Synesio angel wings.

919
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, they just will play.

920
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: Pop you know, in the evening hours.

921
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:22,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely, don't throw in the trowel.

922
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: Yes, it's hot, it's a little dry, but we knew

923
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:27,679
this was coming and we'll get through it and we're

924
00:45:27,679 --> 00:45:30,320
going to talk you through it and have fun doing

925
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:31,880
that in the coming weeks.

926
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:32,400
Speaker 4: That's right.

927
00:45:32,599 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 3: Well, on that note, we will be back to our

928
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:39,079
regularly scheduled programming next week, back to our usual format,

929
00:45:39,159 --> 00:45:42,400
so please to send in your questions, quandaries and conundrums,

930
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,880
just like you always have. And in the meantime, thank

931
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,480
you Rick, thank you Stacy, thank you Adriana, and thanks

932
00:45:48,519 --> 00:45:49,440
so much to all of you.

933
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 4: We hope you have a wonderful week ahead.