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Speaker 1: Welcome back to everyone to a new episode. If you

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We'd love to hear from you. Molly. There's a war

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on a lot of negativity out there. Have you noticed

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that about the war? Am I misreading what's going on? No?

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Speaker 2: I think that we are taping this on day like

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eleven or something of the war. It's in the early days.

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It seems that there are debates about the war, but

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the war itself seems to be going fairly well as

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you might expect given our overwhelming military mind. What are

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you What are you hearing?

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Speaker 1: Though?

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Speaker 2: You're hearing negativity?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe I have the I mean, maybe I'm on

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Twitter or x too much because I think that's a

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place where negativity thrives. But people are already kind of

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ringing their hands over how long it's taking over. You know,

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the oil prices legitimate concern, right, especially oil prices, even

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though they've they've dropped today significantly from the other day.

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But you don't know, you know, I can't predict what's

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going to happen there, and neither can anyone else. But

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I think the war is going spectacularly well, far better

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than perhaps any military conflict we've engaged. And in the

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sense that we have decapitated the enemy, we are meticulously

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destroying their entire military infrastructure. We have gone after their leadership.

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They are the revolutionary guard within the country. I you know,

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I don't know exactly because we don't know exactly what

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all the aims are as far as as getting to

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certain kinds of nuclear material or whatever. No war's perfect.

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War is always going to have unintended consequences, like we discussed.

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But I think it's going incredibly well. The messaging hasn't

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been great always, but even if we picked up and

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left today, we would have accomplished a lot against a

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sworn enemy of the United States that has been after

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us for forty seven years in different ways.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was looking at there were all there was

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a major effort to put forth polling showing that Republican

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voters love the war, and by and large, you do

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see very strong support among Republicans for the war. And

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then you see much softer support among Democrats, but even

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independents who are much closer to Democrats than they are

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Republicans on this issue. I think if you look at

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that another way, though, these polls are showing basically what

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do you think of Trump? And even the way that

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questions will be asked, do you support President Trump war

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in Iran? You know? Do you support President trump handling

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of the war in Iran? And so people are just

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answering do you support President Trump or not? And it's

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hard to get a really good analysis of what those

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numbers mean, particularly this early in If things continue to

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go as well for the Americans as that's us, as

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they have thus far, I think you will see even

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you know, you will continue to see those high numbers

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from Republicans. It is also true that if it goes

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on for a long time, if it's very disruptive to

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oil markets, if if it's where you're starting to see

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a supplemental have to be put forth for a lot

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of money, you will maybe see more diversity of thought

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among each group of those polled. But thus far, people

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trust Donald Trump to engage in war fighting better than

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his predecessors. But part of that does mean that you're

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not going to do a big nation building war that continues,

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I believe to not be as popular even among Republicans.

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What do you think?

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Speaker 1: You make a very good point about polling, because when

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you dive into those polls, it's not just absolutely a

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lot of them tie it to Donald Trump, which is

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both the positive probably and a negative depending if you're

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a Democrat or Republican, but they also the sequences of questions.

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So essentially they'll say, like Donald Trump has started a

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war with Iran, you know, and the next question will

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so it'll be connected to Donald Trump in some way,

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and so you see the normal splits that usually happen.

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So I don't really trust those polls. But again I

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don't know. I am out of touch with the American

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people in that way, I don't, you know. I for me,

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this seems like a very good thing to do, but

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I understand why other people wouldn't feel the same way.

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I get it. Do you think if it was a

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different president that the polls would look completely different? Would

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more people be for it? Would more people be against it? Like?

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out these positions or there is there an American, you know,

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is there some kind of do Americans have some kind

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of belief and how we should use the military?

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Speaker 2: I mean, oh, I think it would be wildly different.

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But it's impossible to separate the two things right now.

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If Joe Biden were doing this, it would be prosecuted

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in a very different way. If George W. Bush were

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doing this, it would be it'd be done in a

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very different way. Who who is leading the effort has

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everything to do with whether you support it or not,

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both good and bad. So I don't even know how

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you would ask the question without having you know with it.

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prosecuting this war, would it look differently? But it's an

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every generic person. It's always someone in particular.

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Speaker 1: I totally get that who leads a wars is part

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of why you would feel more secure in it or not.

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My point is that the argument that it's well, Donald

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Trump is doing this, so don't worry trust the plan,

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all of that. I don't love that. I mean, you

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have to have some kind of idea. Do you think

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it's right to eliminate Iran as a threat to the

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United States? Do you think it's right to go in

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and take away their nu because I get that. I don't.

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I don't think you know on that.

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Speaker 2: I would be more curious to see how it breaks

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down more by age than anything else. You notice that

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people who remember nineteen seventy nine, which at this point

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Speaker 1: Know, the olds. Yeah, I get it.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember nineteen seventy nine. I do so. Yeah,

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people who are older are going to have had a

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longer history of liking Ran, much like people who are

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older are going to have a natural distrust of the

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Soviet Union's you know, major state, which is Russia that

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plays in I do not think younger people in any

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way have the same idea about this war as older

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people do.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure you agree with that, right well overall? Yeah,

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world and not what you've seen plays a part in that.

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more open to this sort of thing or less open?

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I feel like when you get older, you have a

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longer term view of history and you sort of change

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maybe or maybe this is maybe a witial thinking on

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my part.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's that so much as you

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are a product of the era in which you grew up,

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and if you are an older person coming out of

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World War Two, which was a dramatic success for Americans

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working with allies, you will have a different belief about

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what's possible with use of the military than if your

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only experiences are the Iraq War, the Afghanistan War, Libya,

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you know what I mean. It's different. Now we have

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a little bit of a different situation. Donald Trump has

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had very successful military interventions, and he's done them in

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a way different than those other conflicts. Usually, it's very quick,

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it doesn't have democracy building aspects to it that we

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saw in some recent efforts, not just under Bush, but

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Obama and Clinton. And so I don't think it's that

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you get smarter or wiser as you get older, although

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we tend to do that, even so much as how

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deeply do you understand the success that's possible with the military.

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Speaker 1: I we finally found a point to argue, maybe I

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completely disagree about World War two. World War two, if

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internet during World War two and people saw the massive

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casualties that the Americans took just to take a hill

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or just to move forward by a few miles. I'm

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not sure that they would view it the same way.

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And World War Two was the biggest democracy building, regime

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change war that has ever existed in the history of mankind.

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We literally demanded unconditional surrender of Japan and of Germany

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and instituted democratic governments in those countries and rebuilt them.

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They were a huge successes.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about completely separate things right now. I was

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talking about if you were a product of the World

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War two generation, you saw success with your military. If

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you were a product of the Gulf War Afghanistan War era,

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not talking about whether any of those wars were right

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or wrong, or justified or not justified, but simply people

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who grew up in the post World War two era

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were in a period of great optimism, great patriotism. You know,

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just how it's different for different generations, and I think

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it's worth contemplating that. Well.

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Speaker 1: For sure, I agree with you on the aspect that

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we are prosecuting this war to win and for American

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interests and not for the interests of other people.

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Speaker 2: On that point, I actually think that's always been a

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real unifying theme for Americans. They're not super jazzed about

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having our military everywhere, but if we do have our

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military somewhere, they want to win. They want people's lives

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and money to be treated respectfully. And yeah, they wanted

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to also have like a strategy for success. And so

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this is where we go back to those poll numbers

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for Trump. If you don't trust Trump already, you might

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be more anxious about what are we doing there? What

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are the goals? Why have they not been communicated more clearly?

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If you do trust Trump, you just think those questions

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are silly. It's like trust the plan. He's always he's

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always done it well thus far, it's gonna work out fine.

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for a long time, you're just happy about it, you know,

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like this is something Lindsay Graham has really wanted for

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a long time. He's very happy.

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Speaker 1: Goshcha, the isolationists, right, I'm not throwing you in there.

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They are so lucky Lindsey Graham's around because he says

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ridiculous things all the time. He pretends he's King of America.

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And you could punish the Saudis punish the Syrians. I

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saw him on TV for not helping out. But yet

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he's literally the only real neocon out there. I have

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literally not heard a single person talk about nation building

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or talk about this in the way that he has.

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He's alone voice here.

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Speaker 3: And.

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Speaker 2: I'm not a fan of him, but I don't think

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we should undersell how important he is, right, you know.

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The Wall Street Journal reported that he had personally been

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involved in crafting the conversation with Israel about how they

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would commence Trump to get involved. I mean, he's not

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an uninfluential figure. He he's someone who President Trump definitely

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talks to and you could like him or dislike him,

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but I think it's okay to acknowledge that he has

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played a role in this conflict.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe that story for a second, but I

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will say this, Yes he has.

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Speaker 2: Well, I will tell I can tell you this. He's

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definitely telling people that he played that role.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this This administration has the Marco Rubios and on

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the edge the Lindsey Grahams. What also has the Vances

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and other people in the administration were probably much more,

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uh you know, who are less far less inclined to

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do that, you should hear both sides anyway, I guess.

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Speaker 2: I think Marco Rubio, from what I've heard from my reporting,

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probably was pretty similar in his perspective. In fact, I

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would say there hasn't been a huge diversity within the

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administration on whether to do this or not. This plan

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really is a Donald Trump plan more than a Pete

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hag Seth or a Marco Rubio or a JD. Van's plan. Yeah,

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like they're serving him. They're supporting him, and they're serving

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him well, I think, but they're not the originators of this.

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Speaker 1: I have no reporting. I trust your reporting, but I

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just don't believe that Jdvans would ever do this ever.

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And I'm not.

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Speaker 2: Sure that Mark, what do you think He's like, what

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does that have to do with what I said?

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Speaker 1: Though, Well, you're saying that everyone's on the same page

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as and it's just Donald Trump's plan. Don't you think that?

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Speaker 2: Mark? Okay, let's listen to what I'm saying. They're not.

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they are supporting Trump, which I do believe each one

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is quite publicly supportive of Trump. But they didn't this

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plan did not come from a Pete Hegseeth or a

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Marco Rubio or a JD. Vance. This was more a

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Donald Trump plan than there's that.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying that I could see a President

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Rubio militarily acting against Iran if it would not agree

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to limit its nuclear program or whatever. I just don't

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see that happening with a lot of the other people

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in that administration. That's all I'm saying. Don't I don't.

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Speaker 2: Well like that. I mean, I think with the Venezuela

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situation that was that was something that originated out of

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the Pentagon, I believe. So it is just successful, and

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it was very successful yet and they worked so hard

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on coming up with a plan that would be achieved

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with I mean, just it's so remarkable that whole thing

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was under a day, just a few hours. I mean,

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it's really impressive.

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Speaker 1: There are people who are comparing that operation to the

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Iranian thing, which is it's just very different. Iran is

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a far superior military power in a way far away.

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There are other intricate things that are very different.

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Speaker 2: Culturally, yeah, very different geographically. We'll see, you could accomplish

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a lot in Venezuela just by going in there and

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grabbing Maduro. You don't do that with this entrenched IRGC

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doesn't really matter if you take out the head, there

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are many layers below it.

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Speaker 1: Right, They're not rational actors in the way they believe

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they're rational in how they view the world. But they

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don't view the world as someone who is trying to

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hold onto power in Venezuela. Right, who is going to

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be more apt to work with Donald Trump not to

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lose power hopefully moderate that country. Maybe Cuba's next. I mean,

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you hear a lot about that. I think I just

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don't think countries like that should exist in our hemisphere. Frankly,

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who are our enemies? And but we'll see.

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Speaker 2: I think I saw some people when I think it

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was Lindsay Graham maybe, but maybe someone else who said

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and Cuba's next, And some people were like, oh my gosh. Really,

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But I think Cuba is a much greater or much

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easier to understand problem, not a greater problem than Iran.

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But it is insane that they have just been allowed

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to pose problems from such a close proximity to our country.

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Speaker 1: They're right there, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't want to

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see an invasion in a regime change, Aron style. I

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would like to see what happened in Venezuela, happened to them,

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or maybe not even happen to them. Maybe just threaten

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them and see what they're a minimal to some sort

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of agreement to reform in some way. We'll see you

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want to move on?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I just I was gonna ask there was something

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you said that made me want to ask a question

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about you're not entirely sure what all the goals of

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this war are, but also you said that you think

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it has been so successful that even just with what's

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been accomplished thus far, you could kind of call it

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a day or say, you know, take the win and

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move on. What are your thoughts on that going forward?

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Do you want them to articulate more clearly specific goals.

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Do you want them to just kind of wrap it

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up and get out? Do you want to Does that

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make sense what I'm asking for me? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I think I think they need to clean up the messaging.

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I think it should be simpler. I think it's been

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better lately, but still not great. I think, like I

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said last time, there are an array of possibilities. The

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best case scenarios regime change. I went back to see

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what Donald Trump said about that, and listen, I'm not

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here to defend Donald Trump's rhetoric. I think it's a

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very messy, but he didn't when he was talking about

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regime change. He was talking about the people rising. We

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because of what we're doing doing for ourselves, have allowed

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and given the opportunity for Iranians to rise up against

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their regime. I think that's a long shot. Regime change

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is incredibly hard through just a you know, in air war,

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so I don't know if that's going to happen. I

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think that's the best case scenario, and that's what they're

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hoping for. The idea that Donald Trump has to go

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out there while a war is raging and let everyone

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know exactly what he wants to do and let the

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ene of me know exactly wants to do is not

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the norm they have. I'm sure operations that are happening

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right now to procure, for instance, the nuclear you know,

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the enriched uranium. I'm sure they know what they're going after.

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I'm sure there's a plan. People will pretend there's no plan.

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Don't understand how terry works, and we've shown that we

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are very competent military right now. So I think we've

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weakened them tremendously. We'll probably take them decades. But if

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we have allowed their nuclear program to survive in some way,

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I think that's a big problem, because then you have

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to go back again, and I hope that we never

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have to go back again. So I don't exactly know.

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know what these operations entail. But it's still a victory

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for us to weaken them tremendously in their military and

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their ability to undermine American interests. I think there's still

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work to be done because they could still obviously create

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problems in the straits of har Moves, and you know,

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in oil delivery for the whole world, which matters. It's

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a fungible commodity. It's not that simple. Though. We use

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very little gulf oil frankly, I mean, we get most

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of our oil from Canada and Mexico and we make

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it ourselves. So I don't know, I don't know. I'm

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on a tangent.

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Speaker 2: Yeah on that point, though, It's true that we don't

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get much oil through the straits of our moves, but

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Europe does a lot of their products are able to

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be made because of that oil coming through there, and

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this is why we were targeting the pooties in Yemen,

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because they were making shipping difficult in the Straits of

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prom So, so we are clearly doing this war in conjunction

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with Israel, and I have thought that Israel isn't giving

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away what they're doing there, but they've done a pretty

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good job of messaging. Part of that, I think is

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because Iran is an existential threat to Israel. Everyone understands

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in that country, you know, even you see it in

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the support that Netanyahu has in his country for his

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for what he's doing with this war. Everyone understands Iran

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wants to wipe Israel off the map, and they seem

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to have a clarity of explaining that. That would be good,

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I think for the Americans to follow in explaining why

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they're doing this, what the general plan is. Getting that

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messaging out to people is important because part of you know,

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this is using our money and our boys, and so

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you do want to have broad buy in from the public.

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They're enthusiastic about this or or at the very least supportive,

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and I would just even understanding that we have different

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interests than Israel, we should be communicating in a way

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similar to what they're doing in terms of just getting

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that message to the people. Different.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's very difficult because we have a far

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more complex case to make to voters about the long

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term problems that a nuclear Iran would pose to us.

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And though I think we share many of the same

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interests as Israel, we also have broader interests that include China,

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where Israel's interests are more narrowly focused on proxy armies

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that are literally bombing their people. So it's easier case

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to make you know what I mean, like like Hesbala.

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Speaker 2: So, but if the Iranian rest agree it is, it's

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still good to do that kind of communication.

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Speaker 1: They have done a lot better military planning than messaging planning,

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I think in the White House, I think Rubio has

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been the best. But even his words can be taken

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out of context sometimes and have been, so they should

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clean it up. But it is a tough It's tough

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to explain a lot of it. It's tough to explain

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a preemptive war that maybe saves you know, it's tough,

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like the line of immunity where Iran has these ballistic

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missiles and it makes it into a far more dangerous war.

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That's difficult to explain. Maybe it's not difficult. Maybe they

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don't give the American people enough credit. I don't know,

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but it is to message that in a SoundBite when

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you're on Fox News or wherever you are, making the

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case super super difficult, I think.

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Speaker 2: And then the other thing I would just say, and

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I mentioned this on Box News Sunday, was that Republicans

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are supportive of President Trump pretty much across the board.

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Whatever the issue is, they tend to be supportive. It's

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also true that there are a lot of things that

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need to be done to fix America, and a lot

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of people voted for Trump believing that he alone could

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really fix some of these problems in America. A lot

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of work has been done closing the border, beginning the deportations,

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but the Trump administration should not neglect that domestic policy

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agenda if they want to have any shot at some

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wins in the midterm elections.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I almost think it's I don't make predictions anymore,

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but that the midterms were going to be very difficult

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no matter what, in my opinion, and even with the win.

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Once we talked about this last week, once you win,

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everyone's moved forward to something else. It's incredibly difficult in

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this environment, especially where I don't know. I was thinking

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about this the other day. I don't know there's ever

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going to be a popular president again. Like we're so

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divided on partisan lines. That's difficult for me to think

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that there's going to be a president with like sixty

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seventy percent approval rate, even in the midst of a

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war like we're in. Usually you get that bump for

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like a week or two. Trump wasn't even given that bump.

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And like you say, if Biden did this, I don't

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think he would have been given that bump either. And

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maybe maybe it's those personalities. I don't know soundlikely.

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Speaker 2: From Fox News Sunday, Senator Mark Warner was there, and

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he's on the Senate Intel Committee. He had some critiques

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of Trump with the war, but they were all procedural.

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He didn't disagree that Iran was a very serious threat

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that needed to be taken seriously. Thought that was interesting.

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He didn't like that he didn't come and get approval

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before the war. He didn't believe that that was the

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right way to do things, and he said because it

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wasn't you know, he chose to go to war rather

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than doing it because there was some imminent threat, even

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though the Trump administration says there was an imminent threat,

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whereas Tom Cotton says they have been an imminent threat

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since nineteen seventy nine.

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Speaker 1: Earth, can I say something about that?

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Speaker 2: Well, Warner was I'm just saying Warner was supportive, and

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he's a big Democrat, So I thought that was interesting.

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Speaker 1: Well, did you see the George Wild column about how

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he argued that Trump doesn't need any congressional approval for

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this war? I it was quite interesting.

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Speaker 2: I might agree with it, But what was his uh?

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What don't I don't think the War Powers Act is

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very good, but go on? What was George Will's argument?

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Speaker 1: That you'd have to go read it? I mean, I

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don't know if I agree with it, but essentially he

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argued that the Founder is never envisioned having to go

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and ask Congress for military you know, to engage in

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military action in when when the when you need the

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surprise to do it, when you need to move very

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very quickly, and all of that. I don't know if

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I agree, but it was interesting and unexpected for me

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to read him defending Donald Trump but also saying that

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so something to think about, right, Oh so surprising.

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Speaker 2: All the people who suddenly support Donald Trump worked very

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hard to get him out in twenty sixteen, including some

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publications that did some pretty dramatic stuff to try to

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thwart Trump. Now being very supportive.

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Speaker 1: George will was not a big He's not a big

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neocon type, though he did initially support a rock but

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he quickly were call him saying it was a mistake

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and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: You know, I just if Congress wants to say something,

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they control a lot through the budget, and that's where

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they should show their power, right, and they will have

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an opportunity to do that here fairly soon. If the

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reports that this is costing one to two billion dollars

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a day are true.

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Speaker 3: Check out the Watchdout on Wall Street podcast with Chris

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cast on Apple, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to move on?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, speaking of midterms, did you follow the Texas situation?

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00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 1: I did follow the Texas situation. You're speaking of the

482
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:22,400
Democrat James tell Erico winning against Jasmine Crockett. Yeah, in

483
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:30,319
the in the primaries there. I am obviously not a Christian,

484
00:27:31,839 --> 00:27:35,039
but I he said, I wrote a column on this.

485
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,160
But to me, he sounds like he speaks with the

486
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moral authority of nineteen eighty is like televangelist, but he

487
00:27:40,319 --> 00:27:43,240
has the intellectual depth of a freshman, like gender studies

488
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,480
major at Oberlin. That's that's basically how I think of him.

489
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:51,240
When you listen to him speak, it's it's vapid, right.

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00:27:52,039 --> 00:27:55,920
And because I know many social conservatives, and I could

491
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:59,279
say not all of them are perfect and this or that,

492
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,039
but I think that their views are informed by their

493
00:28:02,039 --> 00:28:04,880
faith like their political views are informed by their faith,

494
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:10,079
which is completely normal and expected. This guy's faith is

495
00:28:10,079 --> 00:28:12,359
informed by his politics. Like I feel like the whole

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00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,759
thing's in verse, Like he comes up which starts talking

497
00:28:14,799 --> 00:28:18,400
about trans kids, and he flips through you know, Paul's

498
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,920
you know, apostle Paul's letters or whatever, and comes up

499
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,759
with some sentence that allows him to rationalize some kind

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00:28:26,799 --> 00:28:29,759
of insane view of abortion or whatever. It is. Right,

501
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,240
So I cannot. I find the guy just insufferable. Let

502
00:28:33,279 --> 00:28:35,160
me ask you, what do you what are your thoughts

503
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:35,880
on him?

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Speaker 2: Well, again, I'm thinking back to some stuff from Fox.

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00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,240
On Sunday, a Wall Street Journal reporter Ami Lensky was

506
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,680
saying that Democrats were in a very good situation in

507
00:28:49,759 --> 00:28:54,079
Texas because they had been able to dominate this moderate

508
00:28:54,759 --> 00:29:01,799
James tallerco over Jasmin Crockett, who said, this is Helen Ski. Okay,

509
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:03,960
I just make that up. In fact, that is the

510
00:29:04,119 --> 00:29:08,119
general consensus, right. You saw it with the Stephen Colbert

511
00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:13,160
conspiring with tall Rico to to not help out Jasmine

512
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,240
Crockett and make a big production out of it so

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00:29:15,279 --> 00:29:19,839
it would gain money and recognition for tall Rico. The

514
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,640
Democrats were very focused on that, and they did consider

515
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,880
it a big thing that they could run him instead

516
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:31,799
of Crockett, in part because the big Democrat operation now

517
00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:36,079
is to take the most left wing person who presents

518
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:39,960
the least left wing as your ideal candidate, and so

519
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,759
they think tall Rico is their most left wing but

520
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,680
presents his not left wing, in part because the media

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00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:50,200
keeper saying that he's moderate. There is It reminds me

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00:29:50,279 --> 00:29:53,119
of when the media we're saying that Democrats had cracked

523
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,440
the code with Pete Buddha Judge and Tim Walls. These

524
00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:01,079
are the men that cote for beta or and it's

525
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,079
it's just clear that Democrats aren't talking to any actual men.

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These men are very effeminate and do not appeal to

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men or many women, and yet the media keep going

528
00:30:19,519 --> 00:30:25,000
with this line. So Tallarico is his views are radical.

529
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:30,319
He led the effort to trans children at the state legislature,

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00:30:30,839 --> 00:30:32,720
and he said that God wanted you to do that.

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He said that he wanted arbortuaries in every federal courthouse

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00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:44,359
in America and that abortionists should be federal employees. He

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00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:48,599
said that there were six genders, that God is non binary.

534
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,960
This is a guy who would come off like a

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00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:56,200
kook in Portland. Well maybe not Portland. He would have

536
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,000
trouble getting elected in California. The idea that he's going

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00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,519
to be this like miracle candidate in Texas, I don't

538
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,359
really buy at all.

539
00:31:06,519 --> 00:31:10,599
Speaker 1: He proves, Yeah, he proves that they're trying to prove

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00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,599
that progressivism is compatible with traditional notions of faith. But

541
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,599
what they're proving is that modern progressives are bigger quacks

542
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,640
than average social conservatives have ever been. That they are

543
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,039
willing to believe anything that they are willing to believe.

544
00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:27,640
There are six genders you can choose from that they're

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00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:29,640
willing to believe. How you didn't even talk about his

546
00:31:29,839 --> 00:31:32,720
racial stuff during Black Lives Matters, or maybe you did,

547
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,279
but he talks about how your skin is white, it's

548
00:31:35,319 --> 00:31:39,319
a virus. It's like he speaks like a clansman from

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00:31:39,359 --> 00:31:42,960
the thirties, but in reverse right, like he thinks being white,

550
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:48,599
that does he really believe that Christianity that don't speak

551
00:31:48,599 --> 00:31:51,519
for Jesus, but that Jesus believes that your skin color

552
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:54,039
defines you, that you don't have any kind of free will,

553
00:31:54,079 --> 00:31:56,079
that you're a hater because of who you were born to.

554
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,720
I mean, this kind of stuff is radical and using

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00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:02,519
faith to hide it and to justify it. I think

556
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:06,319
is really just gross in a way. And I can't

557
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:08,160
imagine voters won't see through it. I don't know.

558
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Speaker 2: Well, I think that many voters will see through it.

559
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,359
It is also true that this kind of shtick does

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00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,000
work on a certain type of individual, and we saw

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00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:25,759
this the New York Times has. You know, they are

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00:32:25,799 --> 00:32:29,240
engaged constantly in propaganda operations, and so one of their

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00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:33,720
long running propaganda operations is to have David French as

564
00:32:33,759 --> 00:32:38,480
their in house like anti Christian critic basically but again

565
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,599
much like James tall Rico, under the guys that he

566
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:45,200
is actually the most Christian of them all. And so

567
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,400
every Sunday he does a sermon column, and I think

568
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,480
it was this Sunday he did a column praising James

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00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,279
tall Rico as the best Christian in America vis a

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00:32:56,359 --> 00:33:01,759
vis other Christians. And did you read it? Yeah? What'd

571
00:33:01,759 --> 00:33:02,279
you think of it?

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00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,519
Speaker 1: Christians are involved in debates that are none of my business,

573
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you know, just overall, I'm just going to say, but

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00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:12,440
it seems like he puts a lot of importance on tone.

575
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,079
You know, how you sound, not what you do, like

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00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,319
a non judgmentalism. But of course it's just judgmentalism a

577
00:33:19,319 --> 00:33:23,319
different way. But you know so, and he likes the

578
00:33:23,359 --> 00:33:27,759
tonal value of someone like this who who says that,

579
00:33:28,839 --> 00:33:30,759
you know, abortion and gay marriage are not the most

580
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,000
important things in the Bibles. But David French then doesn't

581
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,279
care that he uses the Bible to justify having an

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00:33:36,319 --> 00:33:40,920
abortion mill in every federal building. So is he like

583
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,960
is he only is seeing half of the equation. I

584
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,359
don't know. That's what it seems like to me, Like

585
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,759
to him, the tone is more important than the substance

586
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:50,559
of this sort of candidate. I don't know, what do

587
00:33:50,599 --> 00:33:51,000
you think.

588
00:33:52,119 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 2: I don't read David French, but I have enjoyed some

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00:33:54,519 --> 00:33:57,640
of the anti David French pieces that have come out

590
00:33:58,039 --> 00:34:02,559
in reaction to his column. And Chris Bray, who's very

591
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,519
similar to you in like not the most religious person

592
00:34:05,599 --> 00:34:09,239
or doesn't come off that way although he is Christian.

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00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:17,480
The Tallarico guy annoys him like any red blooded American man,

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00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:22,000
and also David French's little stick that he does annoys

595
00:34:22,039 --> 00:34:26,519
him quite a bit. Did a great takedown of all

596
00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:31,960
of the logical fallacies in the David French column, including

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00:34:32,039 --> 00:34:36,639
how he rewrites MAGA and Trump as Christian leaders and

598
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,239
Christian as a Christian movement, which is just not accurate, right,

599
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,239
Donald Trump does not purport to be a Christian leader.

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00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:47,280
MAGA is a political movement, not a religious movement. Even

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if it contains quite a few Christians, it also contains

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00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,440
people who aren't, you know. But he rewrites these things

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00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:57,360
that he can compare. Albert Mueller had a response to

604
00:34:57,440 --> 00:35:00,440
David French where he was saying in a call him,

605
00:35:00,519 --> 00:35:02,800
David French states that tall Rico is one of the

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00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:07,079
few openly Christian politicians in the US who acts like

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00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:10,320
a Christian, and by acting like a Christian, he reveals

608
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,360
a profound contrast with so many members of the MAGA

609
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,440
Christian movement that's dominated American political life for ten years.

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00:35:19,039 --> 00:35:21,599
A few paragraphs later, he cited tallar Rico as saying,

611
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,039
I'm tired of being pitted against my neighbor. I'm tired

612
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:28,239
of being told to hate my neighbor. And then Muller writes,

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00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:32,039
who told him such a vile thing? To state my frustration? Clearly,

614
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,159
I am tired of being told about people who told

615
00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:38,239
him to hate his neighbor, who told him that to

616
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,039
be even more clear, we know what he is doing here.

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00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,239
He is a talented politician who is running as a

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00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,280
faith forward candidate while condemning Conservatives for running as faith

619
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,960
forward candidates, and he condemns evangelical Christians for attempting to

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00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:57,039
influence politics while he seeks to establish his own religious

621
00:35:57,039 --> 00:36:01,159
liberalism as law. Tall Rico wants to divide voters just

622
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,119
as much as Donald Trump, but on different grounds and

623
00:36:04,119 --> 00:36:06,719
along different lines. That was a good point.

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Speaker 1: That's a great point, of course he does. And what

625
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,079
about the hypocrisy of secular urban liberals who are constantly,

626
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,440
you know, yelling at social conservatives not to bring God

627
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,920
into politics and so forth. But when a Canada comes

628
00:36:20,079 --> 00:36:23,079
like this comes along, you know he's on Stephen Colbert,

629
00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:25,679
He'll be on the cover of GQ for all I know,

630
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,280
like Beta or Orke. It's a massive hypocrisy. I have

631
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,039
no problem with people bringing God into politics because those

632
00:36:32,079 --> 00:36:35,480
are those are the beliefs that help dictate our choices

633
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:40,480
in life. But he's a hypocrite. Yeah, he's a talented politician.

634
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:43,119
People say, I guess so I am not. I think

635
00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:45,760
I'm immune from those charms in general, But I don't

636
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,000
you know, especially with him. But we'll see. I don't

637
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,639
buy it. I don't buy that he's going to beat

638
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:53,000
either of the Republicans who who move forward. I don't

639
00:36:53,079 --> 00:36:56,360
understand why. I mean, David French mentions Corning. But you know,

640
00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:00,119
if you're that put off by Paxton named Pakston and

641
00:37:00,159 --> 00:37:04,199
then you have a candidate there, a milk toast Republican,

642
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,920
you could support it. Right, why put your who I'm

643
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,360
fine with? But why do you have to put your

644
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:14,400
support behind the person who is attacking other Christians in essence? Right,

645
00:37:14,639 --> 00:37:17,719
he's constantly telling other Christians how to think, but other

646
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,280
Christians aren't allowed to say anything. I don't know. I

647
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,480
don't mind going off on this. This isn't my business.

648
00:37:24,639 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 2: All of our business.

649
00:37:27,639 --> 00:37:29,639
Speaker 1: It is my business that a guy who thinks it's

650
00:37:29,679 --> 00:37:33,239
okay to mutilate young children in schools is going to

651
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,840
be in the US Senate. That's my business. I'm against that.

652
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,639
A guy who thinks your skin color dictates that you're

653
00:37:38,639 --> 00:37:41,960
going to be a racist, I'm against that. And you

654
00:37:42,119 --> 00:37:44,840
know that people who believe those two things but believe

655
00:37:45,039 --> 00:37:47,960
a whole we'll just say then you of crazy things too.

656
00:37:48,039 --> 00:37:51,880
Speaker 2: And the guy is super motivated about trans children. I

657
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,199
saw this clip where he was asked, who's someone you

658
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:56,880
care about other than family and friends? And he's like

659
00:37:57,519 --> 00:38:02,920
trans children. He frans again, do you see this as

660
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:07,199
being a winning message in Texas? You know, even Abigail

661
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,639
Spanberger was running away from the transing of children when

662
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,159
she was pretending to be moderate. But this guy's on video,

663
00:38:14,039 --> 00:38:16,079
way too online, way too much video.

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00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: We don't mention her name. We don't mention that woman's

665
00:38:18,559 --> 00:38:19,239
name in this house.

666
00:38:19,519 --> 00:38:20,079
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

667
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,039
Speaker 1: We're trying to. Yeah, they can put out a sign

668
00:38:24,159 --> 00:38:26,679
they're trying she's trying to or Democrats are trying to

669
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:32,800
pass a ar band in Virginia. Right now, let's talk

670
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,760
about the media. Usually I think you're the media critic,

671
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:41,480
right but I have a beef. I have three beefs.

672
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,639
First one is did you see the story of Zohar

673
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:52,079
Mam Donnie's wife Rama Duaji, who liked on October seventh,

674
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:56,480
liked a bunch of posts on Instagram celebrating the mass

675
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,960
burder of one thousand, two hundred innocent civilians in Israel,

676
00:39:00,639 --> 00:39:04,079
and then liked an Instagram post calling the rape of

677
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:10,239
women that day a hoax. Well, she is now, and

678
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,400
that's bad enough. I would say that that's one of

679
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:14,519
the least surprising things I've ever read in my life,

680
00:39:14,559 --> 00:39:18,920
just to be honest about that. But did you see

681
00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,400
the coverage of that.

682
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,639
Speaker 2: Did you see the reaction to the article, the investigative

683
00:39:24,679 --> 00:39:30,199
report into her likes? Yes, they seem to go after

684
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,199
the reporter and defend missus Mumdannie.

685
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:38,880
Speaker 1: Yes. One of the headlines in The New York Times reads,

686
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:43,199
Mumdannie defends wife amid criticism of her support for the

687
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,119
Palestinian Cause. Now, either the person who wrote that believes

688
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,920
that the Palestinian Cause entails hunting down terrified, unarmed young

689
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,159
women who at a music festival and killing them where

690
00:39:56,639 --> 00:39:59,840
where they're trying to be evasive, right, or obscure what

691
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,679
that was really about. Knowing the New York Times, I'd

692
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,920
say both are very possible, and maybe both happened at

693
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:06,599
the same time.

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Speaker 2: The thing I couldn't get over is that the New

695
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,719
York Times, the New York Times was doing this. Do

696
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:16,360
you remember The New York Times thinking that it was

697
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,119
inappropriate to go after the wife of an influential figure

698
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:25,480
when they ran multiple stories about Martha and Alito's habits

699
00:40:25,519 --> 00:40:30,599
with flags. Can you remember this? You know, she likes

700
00:40:30,639 --> 00:40:33,320
flags and she had a dispute with a neighbor and

701
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,519
she had a flag flying upside down, and they made

702
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,559
that a front page story, tried to get Alito to

703
00:40:39,559 --> 00:40:42,880
be forced out of the Supreme Court or to recuse

704
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,920
himself from all sorts of cases related to various you know,

705
00:40:47,079 --> 00:40:50,840
lawfair that the left was doing. And then they kept

706
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:55,280
it going. She had an appeal to Heaven flag up

707
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,800
at her beach house, which is a great flag that

708
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:02,800
everybody should fly, a flag that has been flown by

709
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,079
left and right. The San Francisco City Hall or whatever

710
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:09,880
used to fly it for decades until this story came

711
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:12,800
out where the New York Times set again because Martha

712
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,079
an Alito likes flags, and I can verify this, Sam

713
00:41:17,119 --> 00:41:20,079
Alito is not a big flag waiver in any way.

714
00:41:20,639 --> 00:41:23,719
Martha Ann loves flags, has a ton of them, loves

715
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,199
to fly them. And New York Times made it a

716
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,360
really big story. It was a massive story. You had

717
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:33,039
sent it ethics investigations, you had all sorts of drama happening.

718
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:36,239
But then they get mad when their own mayor's wife

719
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:42,119
is caught liking tweets that are politically difficult to justify.

720
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 1: How many stories has The Times of Pro Public and

721
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:51,119
other outlets run about Justice Thomas's wife and what her

722
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,599
political opinions, Right, here's it.

723
00:41:54,199 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: And then when Mom Donnie said, you know what, my

724
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,280
wife's her own person. This is her business, not anyone

725
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:01,400
else is. Everyone was like, well, case club. If Justice

726
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Thomas or Justice Alito or Justice Roberts or anybody on

727
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,880
the Court who's a Republican appointee says that people make

728
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,199
fun of them. The New York Times said that when Alito,

729
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,400
who anyone who knows him knows he's not a flag person,

730
00:42:18,599 --> 00:42:20,559
when he said those are my wife's flag. She's her

731
00:42:20,599 --> 00:42:23,159
own person. She has First Amendment rights, they said, this

732
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:28,639
is despicable. This is he is using his wife so

733
00:42:28,679 --> 00:42:32,239
that he can protect his career. There were other media

734
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,360
outlets that said their marriage is probably in trouble because

735
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,880
he's throwing his wife under the bus. But none of

736
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,239
this from Mom Donnie. Interesting.

737
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, she's the title to her opinion. I don't

738
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,280
want to stop her from saying what she wants to say.

739
00:42:48,280 --> 00:42:52,079
But if you Mom Donnie said that she's a private person, well,

740
00:42:52,119 --> 00:42:55,039
if you pose for magazine photos, You give interviews to

741
00:42:55,599 --> 00:42:58,480
New York Magazine, to the New York Times, to one

742
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,159
of the I think it was vanity fair what ever

743
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,000
it was. You offer your political opinions on social media,

744
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,599
then your positions are fair game for public to scrutinize.

745
00:43:07,639 --> 00:43:10,559
A but I looked up how many stories the New

746
00:43:10,599 --> 00:43:14,079
York Times did on this private person before, and just

747
00:43:14,159 --> 00:43:16,800
like last week, there was a story called the Complicit.

748
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,440
Here's the headline, the complicated politics of Rama de Wagi's

749
00:43:20,559 --> 00:43:24,519
style celebrating the New York ladies sent into the spotlight.

750
00:43:25,159 --> 00:43:27,559
You know it complicated as a euphemism for in the

751
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:31,440
New York Times, it means that you have imst cursed,

752
00:43:31,559 --> 00:43:35,239
you have insane positions, that it's a you know that

753
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,719
an extremist view is that they that are too nuanced

754
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,960
for you prolls to understand. We're gonna layer it with

755
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,199
all tons of context. What she really means when she's like, yeah,

756
00:43:43,199 --> 00:43:45,840
people weren't raped, you know, rape, there was a rape hoax.

757
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,360
And that's what they do. And I believe this is

758
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,599
driven not only because she's so the wife of a socialist,

759
00:43:52,599 --> 00:43:58,159
because people they have internalized the idea of Islamophobia. These

760
00:43:58,199 --> 00:44:00,599
young reporters and these people to New York and they

761
00:44:00,639 --> 00:44:03,760
simply can't get themselves to ever be honest or say

762
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:09,920
anything about someone who is Muslim. It's part of it

763
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,239
for sure for me. Because there were two other stories

764
00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,719
that The New York Times participated in that show this.

765
00:44:16,159 --> 00:44:17,920
I was going about to mention there was an event

766
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:27,679
where two Isis inspired terrorists through homemade bombs. They were duds,

767
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:31,800
but they were packed with like nails and things like that.

768
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:36,079
At a peaceful protest some anti Muslim protesters and want

769
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:37,800
to kick all the Muslims out of the country. Whatever,

770
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,599
they were peaceful, these people threw bombs at them. Here's

771
00:44:40,599 --> 00:44:43,880
the New York Times headline, smoking jars of metal infuses

772
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:46,840
thrown at protests near Mayor's house. And if you read

773
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,360
that headline, would you know who was involved in throwing

774
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:53,320
those bombs? You wouldn't even know. The subhead says six

775
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:56,639
people were arrested after anti Islamic protesters led by the

776
00:44:56,679 --> 00:45:00,079
right wing activist Jake Lang clashed with counter protesters there

777
00:45:00,199 --> 00:45:02,559
near Gray c Mansion. You could read the subhead and

778
00:45:02,599 --> 00:45:05,480
you wouldn't know who actually threw the bomb. You have

779
00:45:05,519 --> 00:45:08,000
to go pretty deep into that story. You know what

780
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,719
smoking jars and metal fuses are. They're called bombs. You

781
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:17,559
could have just said bombs, right, And it's interesting.

782
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 2: They always tell you use fourteen words that obscure the

783
00:45:22,519 --> 00:45:26,239
truth when a single word that would say it clearly

784
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:28,239
should not be used.

785
00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: I'm happy you brought that up, because this is anti journalism.

786
00:45:32,039 --> 00:45:37,159
Journalism is supposed to synthesize information, bring it clearly and

787
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:39,599
as truth to people who read it or see it.

788
00:45:39,679 --> 00:45:41,639
I mean, that's like the core job I think of

789
00:45:41,679 --> 00:45:45,119
a journalist. This literally leads you away from the truth

790
00:45:45,159 --> 00:45:48,320
on purpose. Like, that's anti journalism, it's propaganda. I don't

791
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,119
know what you want to call it. Come what read

792
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,639
you CNN's lead from that day, from their story on

793
00:45:52,679 --> 00:45:56,840
that two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday

794
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,519
morning for what could have been a normal day, enjoying

795
00:45:59,519 --> 00:46:04,360
the city during abnormally warm weather. Their lives were drastically changed,

796
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,920
as the pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bomb

797
00:46:07,039 --> 00:46:11,239
homemade bombs during an anti Muslim protest outside Mayor Zoron

798
00:46:11,679 --> 00:46:16,880
Mamdani's home. That is insane. It reminds me of the

799
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,599
cover of Rolling Stone when they put the Boston Marathon

800
00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:22,920
bomber on and made him into like, what was that

801
00:46:23,199 --> 00:46:27,320
a teen magazine idol or something. These people are insane,

802
00:46:28,679 --> 00:46:31,679
something wrong with them. You're just not on your head,

803
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,559
you know it. I don't know when it's horrible.

804
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 2: I mean I saw some funny parodies of this where

805
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,440
they were rewriting, you know, the Ted Kaczynski as a

806
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:45,440
promising Harvard student or I T student whatever he was,

807
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,119
who had some interesting ideas about technology and writing skills

808
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:56,239
and his life took a turn. But it's not funny

809
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,519
because it's so bad. And you just said, I don't

810
00:46:58,559 --> 00:47:02,760
know anything about this group that protesting, so I literally

811
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,000
don't know what they're called or who they are. The

812
00:47:05,079 --> 00:47:08,320
name of the individual didn't match for me. But it

813
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:13,400
does concern me that we are whistling past the in

814
00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:19,119
some cases literal graveyard when it comes to difficulties having

815
00:47:19,159 --> 00:47:26,079
a pluralistic society with people who support killing those they

816
00:47:26,119 --> 00:47:30,519
don't agree with, and we're not answering those questions because

817
00:47:30,519 --> 00:47:36,960
they're very difficult, and we are importing massive numbers of

818
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:41,760
people who don't necessarily have a problem with this type

819
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:46,320
of violence, who have religious justification for it, and because

820
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,679
it's a difficult conversation to have, we just don't have it.

821
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,079
And you see this on left right media we can

822
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,400
make fun of. But you know, I keep on thinking

823
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,320
about how after nine to eleven, the big mantra from

824
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,199
Republicans was that Islam is a religion of peace, and

825
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:02,280
how the worst thing would be if any there was

826
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:07,199
any blowback on Muslims for the Muslim terrorism that had

827
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:11,440
killed so many thousands of Americans. And I would like

828
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,840
to see better conversations. They're acknowledging that there are varieties

829
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:21,119
in Islam, and also acknowledging that the percentage of Muslims

830
00:48:21,119 --> 00:48:25,519
globally who support violence as a means to accomplishing political

831
00:48:25,519 --> 00:48:30,559
and religious ends is way too high.

832
00:48:30,639 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: That's all fair enough. I mean, someone made the joke

833
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,519
that there was a protest to say that Muslim Islam

834
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,079
was incompatible with Western society, and a couple of people

835
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,000
showed up and through bombs to prove them wrong. But

836
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:46,599
I think it's important to note It's not the most

837
00:48:46,599 --> 00:48:48,719
important thing, honestly, but it's important to note that there

838
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:51,119
are many Muslim people or peaceful and all of that,

839
00:48:51,159 --> 00:48:52,800
and they live in America and their citizens, and we

840
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:56,639
should want to secularize them and bring them into the fold.

841
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:59,519
But it's also not we shouldn't obscure the truth that

842
00:48:59,559 --> 00:49:02,840
there are Islamic people who cannot abide by someone disagreeing

843
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,519
with them or saying something they don't like, and this

844
00:49:05,599 --> 00:49:09,960
is that. And I just want to say CNN retracted

845
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:11,039
that lead.

846
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:16,039
Speaker 2: Not really they didn't. I mean they took away the tweet,

847
00:49:16,039 --> 00:49:18,199
and then the story stayed basically the same.

848
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:21,559
Speaker 1: The tweak the lead, but also the New York Times

849
00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:24,280
change one of its headlines. There are still I think

850
00:49:24,519 --> 00:49:28,320
some older leftist editors in these places who will rain

851
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,880
in this craziness. But at some point soon the nuts

852
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,159
are going to be in charge, and I wonder what's

853
00:49:33,159 --> 00:49:34,719
going to happen then I think it's going to be

854
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:38,480
a lot worse. The last story on this I could

855
00:49:38,559 --> 00:49:43,480
quickly say is that that there was also a obituary

856
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:46,800
in The Economists, which was once kind of like the

857
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,800
house magazine of neoliberalism in the world, right in the

858
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:53,599
Western world. It was a serious concern. It has become

859
00:49:53,639 --> 00:49:58,199
a joke. You know, there there are no there are

860
00:49:58,239 --> 00:49:59,760
no bylines on it, so you don't even know who

861
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:04,000
rites this stuff. But they decided to write in OH

862
00:50:04,039 --> 00:50:08,480
bit about Ali Kahmani, who is dead, told to the

863
00:50:08,519 --> 00:50:12,280
prism of his own eyes, with a downplay virtue that

864
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,880
he is basically was some kind of Nazi in essence

865
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:20,199
to his own people, the misogyny, the murder, the destitution,

866
00:50:20,519 --> 00:50:23,559
and you know, the executions, and talks about how he

867
00:50:23,639 --> 00:50:25,960
believed he had divine right on his side and had

868
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,000
countless reasons to hate the West, especially the United States

869
00:50:30,159 --> 00:50:33,199
States the tip of a phalanx of morally corrupt countries.

870
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,880
I mean, this is just outrageous. It would be like

871
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:39,559
writing an oh bit of Hitler through his own eyes

872
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,000
he had good reason to hate the Jews, who blah

873
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,119
blah blah. Right like, it's just unbearable. But then I

874
00:50:45,159 --> 00:50:48,199
thought about it. We've been seeing this forever. You remember

875
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,239
the infamous Washington Post obit on al Bagdati where they

876
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,760
called him. They led with calling him an austere religious scholar,

877
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,079
not a person who brought back white slavery or or

878
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:04,519
you know, buried people, you know, by the thousands. It's

879
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,159
just something.

880
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:09,280
Speaker 2: The New York Times had started responding to critics of

881
00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:14,840
its favorable obituaries for dictators and murderers, and they said,

882
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,400
you know, we try to present people in all of

883
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:23,920
their complexity. And I don't hate that idea at a

884
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:27,719
time of death, to just describe their importance and put

885
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:32,239
the best construction on it, except for two things. One,

886
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:36,280
if you're a conservative, they lead with the worst thing

887
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,719
they can say about you, and it's in the headline.

888
00:51:39,159 --> 00:51:41,719
And they take things that they took out of context

889
00:51:42,039 --> 00:51:44,440
when you were alive and they lead with that at

890
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,960
the time of your death. So no offense, but screwed

891
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,000
these people. They're not painting a you know, picture of

892
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,639
their full life. And then secondly, there is a difference.

893
00:51:54,679 --> 00:51:58,880
You know, if you are angrier at a cartoonist who

894
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:05,079
supported Trump than a guy responsible for untold bloodshed and calamities,

895
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,320
there's something wrong with you. You're to quote to quote

896
00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:12,199
George W.

897
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:12,559
Speaker 1: Bush.

898
00:52:12,599 --> 00:52:14,039
Speaker 2: You don't remember how he was like, if you're a

899
00:52:14,039 --> 00:52:16,559
critic of the Iraq war, he said, you're either with

900
00:52:16,639 --> 00:52:19,679
us or you're with the terrorists. But I just think

901
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:24,280
the New York Times is basically with bad people. They

902
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,960
write positive or you know, the Economist or the Washington Post,

903
00:52:28,199 --> 00:52:31,320
they write these positive things about these people because they

904
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,119
agree with them in their fight against America. What do

905
00:52:35,199 --> 00:52:35,519
you think.

906
00:52:37,199 --> 00:52:39,800
Speaker 1: I think that's harsh and true. Sometimes I think it,

907
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:41,960
you know, a less less harsh way to put it

908
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,480
was that they sympathize with them more than a normal

909
00:52:45,559 --> 00:52:49,039
person should. Maybe, but you know you mentioned you're talking

910
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:51,119
about Scott Adams and that a little bit right. But

911
00:52:51,199 --> 00:52:53,559
think Rush Limbaugh. I think this was the New York Times.

912
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:55,239
It might have been the Washington Post like it led

913
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:02,800
with like radio personality who weaponized a radio against Democrats,

914
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,719
like they always pick the worst where they put the

915
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,480
worst formulation on it. I don't. I think what Russia

916
00:53:09,559 --> 00:53:12,360
limbag doing that was good actually for America, but I

917
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,960
understand that it has a negative connotation for them. Yeah,

918
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,760
something's wrong with these people. There is something wrong. Like

919
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:23,599
you could I was thinking about missus Mum Dannie. You

920
00:53:23,639 --> 00:53:26,440
could stake out a position that you think that Israel

921
00:53:26,559 --> 00:53:28,800
is a moral in the way they acted towards Gaza

922
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:34,840
and not celebrate the wanton murder, the taping, the laughter

923
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:39,440
of mass murder. But they have a problem doing this.

924
00:53:39,559 --> 00:53:44,039
There's something wrong with these people, and I just I

925
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,840
think there's an evil there. I'm sorry there's a bloodlust

926
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,840
when you are liking something like that that is not

927
00:53:50,079 --> 00:53:54,280
normal for a person in Western society to do. I

928
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,519
don't know where this all goes, but it's not great.

929
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:01,039
You want to talk about culture. It's so funny we

930
00:54:01,119 --> 00:54:03,719
turned to culture after talking about such horrible things.

931
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:10,719
Speaker 2: You want to add one? I just wanted to add

932
00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:13,599
one more thing about the Mom Donnie wife, which is

933
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:19,159
I definitely judge people by their wives. And I think

934
00:54:19,199 --> 00:54:21,440
that if you want to know if you've got a

935
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:24,639
good like justice or judge, just look at who their

936
00:54:24,679 --> 00:54:27,519
wife is. That will tell you more than more than

937
00:54:27,559 --> 00:54:31,320
a lot of questionnaire. And Mom Donnie having this woman

938
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:34,199
as his wife, I think it's just it's informative, tells

939
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:36,880
you a lot about who's trying to please when he

940
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:39,480
goes home at night. It's not like a perfect metric,

941
00:54:39,639 --> 00:54:43,480
but something I like to do. But yes, for culture,

942
00:54:43,679 --> 00:54:47,679
I have two things. First off is there's this documentary

943
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,280
on mel Brooks. Have you talked about this previously.

944
00:54:51,159 --> 00:54:52,639
Speaker 1: I have not watched it, but I will.

945
00:54:52,679 --> 00:54:56,320
Speaker 2: Okay. So it's called ninety nine year Old Man and

946
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:59,679
a riff on his two hundred year Old Man comic record,

947
00:55:00,199 --> 00:55:03,760
and it's actually really well done. I'm watching just like

948
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,039
a little bit at a time. Yeah, so I've made

949
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:07,199
it through one episode.

950
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: And then I also say on mel Brooks, like I

951
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:12,880
like mel Brooks as a person. I think he's funny.

952
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:15,320
I like interviews with him. But I'm not as big

953
00:55:15,320 --> 00:55:17,559
a fan of his movies as a lot of people are.

954
00:55:17,639 --> 00:55:21,800
I've always found them too slapsticky for me, especially, you know,

955
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,480
I think some of them are better than others, but

956
00:55:23,519 --> 00:55:26,440
I'm not. I just don't think he's this great talent

957
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,360
that other people do. Not trying to put him down.

958
00:55:28,360 --> 00:55:30,159
He's still alive, so I could say some bad stuff

959
00:55:30,199 --> 00:55:34,639
about well you're a fan, like do you love Blazing Saddles?

960
00:55:34,679 --> 00:55:36,000
Do you love Spaceballs?

961
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 2: I do love Blazing Saddles. I think the rest of

962
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:45,360
his movie output is pretty bad. I think he's interesting

963
00:55:45,519 --> 00:55:49,480
because comedians I like love him. I want to know

964
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:51,960
more about why do they love him so much? But

965
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,280
for me personally, I.

966
00:55:54,199 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: Mean I should say I like the producers as well

967
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:59,119
quite a bit. I like Blazing Saddles, but that's a

968
00:55:59,639 --> 00:56:00,280
revealed mark.

969
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: I hadn't seen that, and he was mortified. So cue

970
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:06,079
all the letters from people angry when I say that

971
00:56:06,119 --> 00:56:09,679
I haven't seen something. I am working on it, but

972
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:11,079
I don't.

973
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 1: Know if people understand how radical that movie kind of

974
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:16,039
is because it was only twenty twenty something years after

975
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:18,480
World War Two, where there's a story of two Jewish

976
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,079
people putting on a play celebrating Hitler because they wanted

977
00:56:21,079 --> 00:56:24,199
to go bankrupt. It's a hilarious premise and the songs

978
00:56:24,199 --> 00:56:26,800
are funny, and the movie's very good. And Gene wild

979
00:56:27,039 --> 00:56:30,760
Gene Wilders, who's wonderful always in my opinion.

980
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:34,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, So the other thing I watched which I

981
00:56:34,599 --> 00:56:40,440
loved is Tron Legacy, the twenty wow on movie. Have

982
00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:40,920
you seen that?

983
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:43,880
Speaker 1: I have not which one? Is this the latest one

984
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:44,960
or earlier?

985
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:48,280
Speaker 2: Okay, came out in twenty ten. It's the first sequel

986
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,599
to Tron. I think there are several.

987
00:56:50,639 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: Now, Yeah, man.

988
00:56:53,559 --> 00:56:57,840
Speaker 2: Mark thought that it lacked a plot, a coherent plot,

989
00:56:57,880 --> 00:56:59,920
and I would agree that it struggled a little bit

990
00:57:00,119 --> 00:57:07,800
that area. But I loved the soundtrack. I thought the

991
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:12,079
the concepts that it introduced were great, lots of Christian

992
00:57:12,119 --> 00:57:16,880
allegory and it looked beautiful. So I enjoyed all of

993
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,760
those things.

994
00:57:18,159 --> 00:57:20,679
Speaker 1: I love that you see Christian allegory in all movies

995
00:57:20,719 --> 00:57:23,079
like I remember You're like Girls is the most Christian

996
00:57:23,079 --> 00:57:25,639
show ever? Like talking about.

997
00:57:25,519 --> 00:57:27,719
Speaker 2: No I said it was a Christian but I didn't

998
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:31,400
think that it was a morality play you fale of

999
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,119
like what goes wrong when you would accept feminism? And

1000
00:57:34,159 --> 00:57:34,920
I still think that.

1001
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: I'm just keeping it's truth.

1002
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 2: A good, good art is truthful, and so sometimes people

1003
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,960
who don't want to reveal truth still do it accidentally.

1004
00:57:44,559 --> 00:57:47,719
Speaker 1: I agree with that actually quite a bit. Did you?

1005
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,599
I know, as we discussed, I think before the show,

1006
00:57:50,639 --> 00:57:52,639
I am older than you. But did you see Tron

1007
00:57:52,719 --> 00:57:53,960
the original when it came out?

1008
00:57:54,679 --> 00:57:57,880
Speaker 2: Did I liked it a lot? What did you think?

1009
00:57:58,199 --> 00:57:59,639
Speaker 1: I loved it when I was a kid. I thought

1010
00:57:59,639 --> 00:58:02,280
it was it was kind of innovative for its time.

1011
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:04,159
It had a kind of a cartoonish quality to it

1012
00:58:04,159 --> 00:58:08,119
that I liked, and a video game quality. Obviously, I'm

1013
00:58:08,119 --> 00:58:09,800
not seen I might have seen that one. I will

1014
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,119
rewatch it because I'm into Tron. So wow, that's a

1015
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,599
strong recommend for you on Tron. I didn't think that.

1016
00:58:15,639 --> 00:58:17,239
You know, you're not real sci fi type.

1017
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:20,679
Speaker 2: So I just also need to reiterate that Mark didn't

1018
00:58:20,719 --> 00:58:22,800
think it was as good as I did, and he's

1019
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:26,239
pretty good at movie reviews. I forgot that. I also

1020
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,760
rewatched La Confidential.

1021
00:58:29,199 --> 00:58:30,719
Speaker 1: Oh I love that movie.

1022
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I like it too.

1023
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:37,320
Speaker 1: It's funny. You know the guy who plays the model

1024
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:41,119
who is like the gay hustler who has killed the

1025
00:58:41,159 --> 00:58:42,840
blonde guy. I was watching a show with him called

1026
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:45,840
The Mentalist that was not terrible for a few episodes.

1027
00:58:46,639 --> 00:58:49,000
I think he's Australian Simon something or other.

1028
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,159
Speaker 2: I'll just point out too that Jerry Goldsmith did the

1029
00:58:54,159 --> 00:58:56,920
score for La Confidential, and I really like him.

1030
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,079
Speaker 1: If you can't get John Williams, you get him.

1031
00:59:00,079 --> 00:59:03,039
Speaker 2: Does like every movie, prefer Jerry Goldsmith.

1032
00:59:03,079 --> 00:59:05,559
Speaker 1: But that's an insane thing to say. Oh my lord,

1033
00:59:07,639 --> 00:59:10,760
John Williams, the guy who who did Raiders of the

1034
00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,639
Lost Arc. You think that Jerry Goldsmith is a better

1035
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:15,599
composer than he is.

1036
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 2: No, I'm not. I just said I would prefer I

1037
00:59:19,239 --> 00:59:22,519
Some of my favorite things have been done by Jerry

1038
00:59:22,519 --> 00:59:27,639
golds including one of my very favorite movie soundtracks ever,

1039
00:59:27,679 --> 00:59:28,840
which is The Russia House.

1040
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm in a i'm in a record store, I'm

1041
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,519
always I always go to the soundtracks to look if

1042
00:59:36,519 --> 00:59:39,800
they see that to surprise you, because you have mentioned

1043
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:41,960
it so often and I'm starting to think maybe it

1044
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,440
never came out in Vinyl. I've never seen it in

1045
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:45,519
any form.

1046
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 2: Msgggs does have it, but they're so expensive then they're

1047
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,599
only in foreign countries. So thank you for looking. Though

1048
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:52,199
I appreciate it.

1049
00:59:52,519 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: I'll keep at it. I have a strong recommend kay,

1050
00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,639
and it's it's top goal in a way. It's called Tehran.

1051
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:06,760
It's a show on Apple Plus about in Mosad woman

1052
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,960
who a spy, who is a younger, not a young woman,

1053
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,119
maybe youngish woman young to me thirty, let's say, who

1054
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:20,679
has parents from Iran, who speaks the language, all of that,

1055
01:00:20,719 --> 01:00:23,320
and she is dropped there and gets stuck in Iran

1056
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:28,079
and is being chased by the person who is the

1057
01:00:28,079 --> 01:00:31,880
head of the Revolutionary Guard, you know, anti Mosad Squad.

1058
01:00:32,679 --> 01:00:35,559
It's very well done. It's an Israeli show. But the

1059
01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:40,199
second season has Glenn Close. The third season has Hugh Laurie.

1060
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,840
Like really well made, doesn't it's not cartoonish and how

1061
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:51,000
it portrays human beings, they're complicated. I liked it a

1062
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:55,519
lot until the last episode of the first season has

1063
01:00:55,599 --> 01:00:58,000
something that I think is quite implausible in the real world.

1064
01:00:58,079 --> 01:01:01,639
But overall, I don't want that's but overall it's a

1065
01:01:01,679 --> 01:01:03,639
really good show. I think it's a really good show

1066
01:01:03,719 --> 01:01:07,440
if that's your thing, and I would recommend it great.

1067
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:10,480
The other show I watch was Young Sherlock. I started watching,

1068
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:14,559
which is a Guy Ritchie show on Amazon. I think,

1069
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,280
and I don't know. It has all the markings of

1070
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:22,039
a Guy Ritchie directed show. It's fun like that.

1071
01:01:22,519 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 2: I like Guy Ritchie.

1072
01:01:24,039 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do too. It's it's nothing deep, but it's fun.

1073
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:31,559
I would say it's fun. It's crackling, it's a live

1074
01:01:32,639 --> 01:01:35,440
the way he films that, the dialogue, all that. Pretty

1075
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:38,360
good show. I've only I've only watched a little bit

1076
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:41,960
of it. That's all I have. Oh I did, I

1077
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,000
did want to I'm I am. I have an event

1078
01:01:45,039 --> 01:01:47,639
coming up where I'll be speaking, so I wanted to

1079
01:01:47,679 --> 01:01:49,760
mention it in case people wanted to come. It's in

1080
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,239
Virginia if you live near Richmond. Even if you don't

1081
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,000
want to come to it, you can. It's at the

1082
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,679
Virginia Forum on April one. I'll be talking about the

1083
01:01:56,679 --> 01:01:59,320
history of American guns. I think we called it Forged

1084
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:03,159
in Freedom. So if you're interested in that. You can

1085
01:02:03,239 --> 01:02:07,880
go online to virginiaforum dot com I think it is

1086
01:02:07,960 --> 01:02:09,960
and scroll to the bottom. You'll see events.

1087
01:02:10,760 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 2: I hope you talk about ammunition.

1088
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,480
Speaker 1: I was going to talk more about kind of the

1089
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:22,960
most the biggest innovators and industrialists who did a lot.

1090
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:26,320
I think people don't know, or maybe they do, but

1091
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,840
many people might not how innovative gun makers were in

1092
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:34,760
the larger context of like mass producing things and manufacturing

1093
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:39,320
and other mechanical innovations. But yeah, I can mention ammunition too.

1094
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:44,079
I'm into ammunition. Should I mentioned that I did? Remember

1095
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:46,480
I mentioned that I was going to get a concealed

1096
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,639
carry gun and people had a lot of suggestions, and

1097
01:02:50,679 --> 01:02:55,400
I went with the Springfield Hellcat Pro And when I

1098
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,000
went to pick it up at the local what's it

1099
01:02:58,039 --> 01:03:02,000
called best Pro show, the guy made fun of me

1100
01:03:02,039 --> 01:03:03,760
and laughed at me, said it was a terrible gun.

1101
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,320
I've never experienced something like this gun. People are so

1102
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,360
opinionated that they will when you're buying from them in

1103
01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,039
the store that they are managing the area of will

1104
01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:15,880
mock you for your selection. I think it's a great

1105
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,519
little gun. I got an extended mag so my handfits

1106
01:03:18,559 --> 01:03:18,880
around it.

1107
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 2: Really well, and why did he lock it?

1108
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: He thinks it's a bad gun. I don't know. I'm

1109
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,400
not that friendly. So once he mocked me, I sort

1110
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,039
of like stop paying attention to him and appreciate that

1111
01:03:29,079 --> 01:03:29,360
at all.

1112
01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:33,119
Speaker 2: If Abigail Spanberger and the other Democrats successfully ban the

1113
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:38,760
AR weaponry, what happens to people who already have, say

1114
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:39,719
an AR fifteen.

1115
01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:43,639
Speaker 1: I think they keep it. I believe the it's like

1116
01:03:43,719 --> 01:03:46,119
kind of like if you have it, it's grandfathered in

1117
01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,159
or whatever. I mean. I'm loading up like the Soviets

1118
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:50,760
are about to invade Red Dawn style. Like I think

1119
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,280
people should buy as many guns as possible in Virginia

1120
01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:58,079
because I don't know what's going to happen. That's just

1121
01:03:58,159 --> 01:04:03,559
me where Yeah, okay, great. If you want to make

1122
01:04:03,559 --> 01:04:05,480
fun of my gun, you can email us at radio

1123
01:04:06,039 --> 01:04:08,199
at the Federalist dot com. We love to hear from you,

1124
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,000
and we'll be back next week, and until then, be

1125
01:04:10,039 --> 01:04:11,840
lovers of freedom and anxious for the fray