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<v Speaker 1>Ready, get ready. So September twelve, twenty twenty five, allegedly

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<v Speaker 1>according to that thing we call a calenter, and the

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<v Speaker 1>call in show is live. So since I already took

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<v Speaker 1>all my time up for today talking, I'm gonna turn

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<v Speaker 1>it right on over to BPTE as soon as I

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<v Speaker 1>give you guys the numbers and pull up my little

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<v Speaker 1>app thing and see if it's working, which apparently it is. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>three one nine five two seven five zero one six.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully this mic is not too hot. There we go,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll just be Pete sound too, because I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It seems like things are out of whack again, even

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<v Speaker 1>though I was just on air. But anyway, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things shifting around as they do. Uh anyhow? Yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>do we want to just drudge over the same stuff

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<v Speaker 1>or are we going to talk about something different? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. It's up to you. Three one nine five

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<v Speaker 1>two seven five zero one six. We are alive, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're broken into the next portion of the broadcast day

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<v Speaker 1>up till ten PM when the age of transitions begins. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>b Pete, what's on your mind this week? Hold?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's been kind of a crappy week. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you one thing after the just the past two days,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of people.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tired of idiots. I'm tired of educated ass hats.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm tired of political pundits. I'm just getting really tired

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<v Speaker 3>when people.

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<v Speaker 2>It's I don't know, I don't understand what has gripped

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<v Speaker 2>this nation, well world really that the things that happen happen.

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<v Speaker 2>I can understand the happening, but I do not understand

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<v Speaker 2>the reactions to it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it depends.

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<v Speaker 2>I think mankind is doomed. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>See, that's what I was trying to give a positive

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<v Speaker 1>spin to during that time. I was talking, and I

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<v Speaker 1>took too much time explaining why it is. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like crap every September eleventh. But you know, yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the other part of that yesterday where it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>is there even a point in talking or trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be rational or seeking a solution. Nobody's hearing it, nobody

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<v Speaker 1>really cares, nobody wants to address what the issue is.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not those people then, but particular side good.

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of it. You know, it used

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<v Speaker 2>to be people would talk past each other, and if

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<v Speaker 2>they would just stop for five seconds and set an

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<v Speaker 2>initial premise. Then they can continue to have a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>May not be constructive, but at least they'd be able

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<v Speaker 2>to discuss it. But people are not talking past each

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<v Speaker 2>other anymore. People are going out of their way to

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<v Speaker 2>be just as disgusting as they possibly can. And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a long time ago, you used to put it down

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<v Speaker 2>to the anonymity of the internet. Well there's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of anonymity on the internet anymore. If you really

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<v Speaker 2>want to track somebody down, you know, there are ways

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<v Speaker 2>to do it. I mean, look at what we've seen

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<v Speaker 2>with people. What about the Karen at the baseball game,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, Philly's Karen and the baseball They found out

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<v Speaker 2>who the hell she was in just a couple of days.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't take long. It just people now are going

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<v Speaker 2>directly at each other, trying to be just as disgusting

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<v Speaker 2>and repugnant as they can. And one example is two

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<v Speaker 2>weeks ago we had a school shooting. Where was it

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<v Speaker 2>in Minnesota? I think?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, which one the same day as Charlie Kirk in Colorado?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no, no, no, this was two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we had the one in Minnesota. The Catholic

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<v Speaker 2>school because the head of the independent school systems in

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<v Speaker 2>Minnesota that you know, covers Catholic schools and charter schools

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<v Speaker 2>and other private schools and other religious schools. He sent

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<v Speaker 2>a letter to wall saying, hey, you know, our security

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<v Speaker 2>really needs to be looked at, not just this school

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<v Speaker 2>but all of the independent schools. Well, Waltz is blued off,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they have a shooting. Okay, but after that,

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<v Speaker 2>you have this episode on the train in Charlotte that

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't know happened until somebody got the video from

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<v Speaker 2>the transit system released through an FIA, and then the

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<v Speaker 2>internet takes off. Individual of this color kills a Ukrainian

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<v Speaker 2>refugee of another color, and that's what started it.

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<v Speaker 4>Imediately after that, you have Charlie Kirk. And while the

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<v Speaker 4>thing with Charlie Kirk was going on, you had a

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<v Speaker 4>school shooting in Colorado. The past two days, I have

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<v Speaker 4>seen more inhumanity to man from man. Man's inhumanity to

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<v Speaker 4>man displayed on every social media platform.

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<v Speaker 2>You see it in the news, you see it all

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<v Speaker 2>these talk programs, you see it from the talking heads. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm just wondering what it's going to take for

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<v Speaker 2>somebody to finally sit down and say that's enough, that

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<v Speaker 2>we've had our fill. I mean, I don't mind people coming.

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<v Speaker 2>And one thing that really bothered me yesterday and most

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<v Speaker 2>of my replies on Twitter were to things that where

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<v Speaker 2>I basically had to tell people, look, you can disagree

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<v Speaker 2>with somebody, but you don't have to lie about them.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what happened happened. We all saw what happened.

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<v Speaker 2>It was right there, blatantly in our face on the news.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened to Charlie Kirk, the videotape from the train

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<v Speaker 2>incident in Charlotte, It was there, we saw it. Unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have anything of the school shooting, just a

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<v Speaker 2>few pictures.

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<v Speaker 1>Well not yet but.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not yet. They'll eventually come out. But what we

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<v Speaker 2>saw to set the flash point. You know, I thought

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<v Speaker 2>we had gotten beyond race in this country. Oh no, No,

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<v Speaker 2>to a point to a point where well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was just looking at have you ever seen

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<v Speaker 2>footage of Blind Faith playing live? Yeah, there's a concert

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<v Speaker 2>where they're playing Can't Find My Way Home and you

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<v Speaker 2>look at the audience. It's a bunch of fucking hippies

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<v Speaker 2>and they're all you know, they're all buzzed out, having

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<v Speaker 2>a good time getting along. And you see blacks and

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<v Speaker 2>whites and Hispanics and every color of the rainbow sitting

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<v Speaker 2>there in that damn audience, and they're all getting along.

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<v Speaker 2>And I remember back in the late sixties, this was

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<v Speaker 2>a little before your time, you know, the peace love

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<v Speaker 2>movement and how we're going to get along. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>Vietnam was going on hot and heavy then, and we

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<v Speaker 2>had protests, and we had the weathermen throwing bombs around,

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<v Speaker 2>and we had people taking shots at one another, kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like it is now. But there was an underlying

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<v Speaker 2>movement of that guy is my brother. I look out

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<v Speaker 2>for him, he looks out for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeap.

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<v Speaker 2>That is gone well. And the thing that bothers me.

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<v Speaker 2>But what bothers me is the most those motherfuckers protesting

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<v Speaker 2>in the streets and raising Holy hell and doing what

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<v Speaker 2>they can do are now leading this country. And look

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<v Speaker 2>at what they have brought us. Look at to the

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<v Speaker 2>point they have gotten us as a nation. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest failure cultural failure in the world. Say what

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<v Speaker 2>you want. The United States is a field cultural experiment

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<v Speaker 2>right now. And they I don't know what they can

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<v Speaker 2>do to correct it. Yeah, did you take the late

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<v Speaker 2>sixties and early seventies to now fifty years? It's amazing

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<v Speaker 2>how much damage you can do in fifty years.

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<v Speaker 1>It sure is. And here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm putting on the shoulders of these ass hats we

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<v Speaker 2>have in Washington, these leaders, these supposed larned individuals. I

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<v Speaker 2>have never seen more educated idiots than I have in

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<v Speaker 2>the past two days.

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<v Speaker 1>I got you. But you know in Tampa, Florida. In Tampa,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida on nine to eleven, also one dead, five injured

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<v Speaker 1>in a mass shooting. Juvenile victim seventeen year old killed,

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<v Speaker 1>gunman unknown. At this point in time, you know how

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<v Speaker 1>many mass shootings there have been in this country this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know. It depends on how you count them.

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<v Speaker 2>Some places that they have the official stats, it's got

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<v Speaker 2>to be more than four people. Okay, Yes, it's gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be more than four people, and one of them has

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<v Speaker 2>to be left handed. Oh cha.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, when you're shooting too many day people, even if

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<v Speaker 3>it's a one on one incounter where a guy gets

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<v Speaker 3>mugged an alley, we've gotten two violent resignation.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh sure, I mean, look, I don't think anybody can realistically,

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<v Speaker 1>in real time even track how many people are just

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<v Speaker 1>getting shot, you know in the one on ones or

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<v Speaker 1>family disputes and all that. I mean, those stats, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to collect them, you know, a year later, to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you, because investigations go on, they find

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<v Speaker 1>out this and that. Some people don't go to the hospital,

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<v Speaker 1>some people do go to the hospital. Things aren't reported

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<v Speaker 1>to law enforcement, et cetera, et cetera. But from public reports, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the mass Shooting Tracker shows us that we got three

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and fifty seven mass shootings in twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>in this country alone. Right, and that's where, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>got more than four people involved and a gun and

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<v Speaker 1>a crowd. That that that's the criteria. Okay, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we're at. And it's not the gun. Okay. I

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<v Speaker 1>wonder how many of those in Chicago, Uh, not a lot. See,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the thing. The go to with Chicago is almost pointless.

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<v Speaker 1>Look Tampa, Florida, Oakland, California, San Francisco, California. Look the

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<v Speaker 1>liberal state where the guns are controlled, Santa Anna, California, Memphis, Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>On the seventh right, Yeah, I'm just going down the

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<v Speaker 1>list in order going backwards right now, you know you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wondering where they.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I could go to another place and probably get

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<v Speaker 1>the breakdown by state if you like. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>what what is We could break this down eighty different ways.

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<v Speaker 1>The thing is this one thing we should be able

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<v Speaker 1>to agree upon is that this is an inordinate amount

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<v Speaker 1>of violence that is occurring in our street. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>our streets in general, that's all there is to it.

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<v Speaker 1>And the red state, blue state. You can break it

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<v Speaker 1>down different ways. You know who succeeded at making this

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<v Speaker 1>not happen or making it again? It's not about necessary. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we have more guns than we have people in this country.

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<v Speaker 1>Blah blah blah. I know what the anti gun people say,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's not the guns in places where you have

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<v Speaker 1>people that you know, by percentage, there's nearly as many

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<v Speaker 1>guns as there is, you know, per person in a

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<v Speaker 1>country where there's way less people. Yeah, this doesn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people want to say it's a worldwide issue. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a worldwide issue, but the fact that we're

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<v Speaker 1>so ready to shoot each other here in America is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of an American issue. I mean, we shoot more

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<v Speaker 1>beauty in a regular day than they do in war zone.

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<v Speaker 2>Think you got taking consideration though, these other countries that,

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<v Speaker 2>especially in Europe, and I saw this living over there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of European countries they do have gun ownership

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<v Speaker 2>and instead of Switzerland's one of the highest gun ownerships

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<v Speaker 2>per captain in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have the violence. They don't have the violence

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<v Speaker 2>that we have over here because they have policing. They

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<v Speaker 2>actually go out and police, They actually go out and

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<v Speaker 2>put people in jail for committing crimes. They don't take

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<v Speaker 2>a repeat offender that's you know, knocked off three bodegas

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<v Speaker 2>and a fucking taxi stand and turn them right back

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<v Speaker 2>out onto the street. I've never did. That's what I

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand. Everybody talks about, well we have a problem. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>why are we paying a bunch of eggheaded bastards to

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<v Speaker 2>and not enforce them. Why are we electing people to

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<v Speaker 2>forces as chiefs and administrators that aren't following the fucking laws.

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<v Speaker 2>We are a lawless nation compared to a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>other ones. So do you want to look at the

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<v Speaker 2>gun crime. We got a bunch of crazy people and

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<v Speaker 2>we don't enforce our damn uh laws. And what are

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<v Speaker 2>you going to get as a results? And then throw

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<v Speaker 2>in the fact that we own half the guns in

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<v Speaker 2>the world, and what do you think the result's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be? Well, here's what you can't explain that to people.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute. This woman with a degree sets there

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<v Speaker 2>and makes the comment guns have more rights than women.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sitting here thinking that is probably the most

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<v Speaker 2>stupid thing I have seen online in all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>guns have more rights than women. The guns don't have

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, okay, we can't have abortions, so you shouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm getting confused, right, Okay, I'm getting I'm getting

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<v Speaker 1>confused because look, before that talking point about nobody's enforcing

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<v Speaker 1>the laws, uh, you know, came out, we had this

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<v Speaker 1>problem then, so you know, in places that are not

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<v Speaker 1>controlled by the people, that are not enforcing the laws.

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<v Speaker 1>The same thing is happening anyway, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>The the murders that are being recorded in this country,

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<v Speaker 1>just murders in general, outside of the guns, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about the violence, because again, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not the gun that's the issue. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>right to an abortion is a separate argument from the

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<v Speaker 1>gun in my mind. But then again, you know people

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<v Speaker 1>would say, nope, that's violence too. Okay, you're a pro

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<v Speaker 1>life person and you think that's the way it is,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know what, you're winning that argument right now. Fine,

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<v Speaker 1>But we've seen regime change here. We've seen the majority

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<v Speaker 1>controlled by the alleged left, we've seen the majority controlled

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<v Speaker 1>by the alleged conservatives. And just like I've said before

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<v Speaker 1>about a lot of problems, when you see that no

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<v Speaker 1>matter who's in charge, the problem keeps growing, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>tells you something else about how the system is wrong

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<v Speaker 1>and there's something else happening that is not able to

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<v Speaker 1>be controlled by the politicians or anybody else. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I tried to tell you about calling the police here

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<v Speaker 1>in Macon, Georgia. Well let me just tell you about

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<v Speaker 1>locally real quick, because I don't know how much violence

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<v Speaker 1>you have in your town. But every day, just about

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<v Speaker 1>I get in a little you know, news alert about

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<v Speaker 1>shootings in this city. Okay, police response is like nothing.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't show up for a long period of time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no instant reaction, there's hardly any presence any time.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nobody who knows people in the neighborhood, none of

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<v Speaker 1>you know, policing is not just punishment. But when people

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<v Speaker 1>knew who was who, they knew where things were, they

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<v Speaker 1>knew where things were going on because they were engaged

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<v Speaker 1>with the community. Right, Well, there's that issue. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>in a red state. Okay, I'm in a red state,

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<v Speaker 1>which should be law and order. And these guys scream

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<v Speaker 1>about law and order. But whether they're screaming about law

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<v Speaker 1>and order or they're screaming about you know, try and

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<v Speaker 1>have sympathy for people. And you know, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't punish everybody, or they're being stupid in either direction.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not solving this, they're not coming up with an answer.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's not about, you know, just more cops, because

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<v Speaker 1>even when you have more cops, it reduces certain things. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it reduces you know, blatant public displays of certain things

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't I okay, just to step back and

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<v Speaker 1>not to try and go after anybody's particular political proclivity.

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<v Speaker 1>But I find it really strange that Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the epicenter that they had to deploy the National

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<v Speaker 1>Guard to for this reason. Alone, in the area where

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<v Speaker 1>these people are living and mostly where you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>politicians are and everything else, there is overlap of all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of policing agencies. I mean constant presence. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think you could go out to lunch or go go

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<v Speaker 1>buy a pack of cigarettes in DC and not see

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<v Speaker 1>either plane closed or uniformed cops armed and hanging around.

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<v Speaker 1>They're everywhere. You got DC police, you know, the regular

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, policing agency. You got your Capitol Police.

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<v Speaker 1>You got police that are assigned and literal police forces

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<v Speaker 1>for particular areas, buildings. You have Secret Service deployed for

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<v Speaker 1>certain politics in certain sensitive areas. Right, I mean there

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<v Speaker 1>is security in police all over the government areas in DC. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so all of the excessive violence is outside of those areas.

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<v Speaker 1>Either that or you have a bunch of Keystone cops

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<v Speaker 1>banging into each other who were existing. I mean, take

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<v Speaker 1>a look at the coverage of law enforcement in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. Beforehand, or even after they sent the National

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<v Speaker 1>Guard there, which I've seen National Guard doing landscaping and

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<v Speaker 1>taken out garbage. I don't see them actually engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>securing things. Maybe I'm not seeing the right stuff, but

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<v Speaker 1>weird that a place like that that has redundant overlaps

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<v Speaker 1>of coverage and law enforcement, and you're going to tell

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<v Speaker 1>me that it was a nightmare scenario. And yet it

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<v Speaker 1>probably was in certain areas. But see, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>In the worst of the worst areas, the police are

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<v Speaker 1>not deployed, they're not engaged in the community.

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<v Speaker 2>The funny thing about that, though, is you see all

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<v Speaker 2>these protests about the Guard in DC, and you see

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<v Speaker 2>a bunch of white upper class individuals who have the

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<v Speaker 2>time to get out there and protest about the Guard.

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<v Speaker 2>But when you hear the interviews of people that live

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<v Speaker 2>in those areas, and the mayor herself comes out and says,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad they're here, we see a difference. I can

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<v Speaker 2>walk down the street now you know, Chucky Schumer walking

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<v Speaker 2>outside of the damn Capitol will block away with his

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<v Speaker 2>security detail. Oh it's great you walk around anywhere out here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Chucky Schumer with a goddamn security detail. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>of course, these people living in this place, when you

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<v Speaker 2>listen to them, they're saying, hey, I'm glad to see it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about damn time somebody did something.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, but it's not just a security what.

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<v Speaker 2>Kills me about this.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just his security detail though, because believe me,

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<v Speaker 1>there is a whole lot of way cleared, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, the the the pads that you got

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<v Speaker 1>to walk on, you know, he want to clear a trail,

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of cops that are just there because

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<v Speaker 1>again there is redundant policing in that area of DC. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so the people that are making you know, big balls

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<v Speaker 1>got himself, you know, beat up by a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>teenagers that supposedly tried to carjack him. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where he was at, but I guarantee you that is

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<v Speaker 1>not a common occurrence wherever the hell he was going,

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<v Speaker 1>unless he was going into areas that are not near

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<v Speaker 1>the government stuff. That's what I'm saying. There is a

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<v Speaker 1>weird reaction that goes on here. Like I said, even

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<v Speaker 1>the go to of Chicago. I'm kinda tired of that

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<v Speaker 1>because again, statistically, I watch people, you know, manipulate the

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<v Speaker 1>statistics every which way. But here's the reality. In most

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<v Speaker 1>of the places where people have the power to speak

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<v Speaker 1>from their issues are not the same as the people

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<v Speaker 1>living in the bad neighborhoods who have a completely different

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<v Speaker 1>idea about what is needed and what is not being serviced.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing. Look all that aside, though it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't prevent even with the heavy policing, it doesn't prevent

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<v Speaker 1>this overflow of violence. It just doesn't. It might restrict

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<v Speaker 1>some of the randomness of it. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get as many drunken brawls, okay, because they're first of

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<v Speaker 1>all not going to allow bars into certain areas and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff like that. Yes, yes, all of that is a factor.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's interesting here is that, no matter how you

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<v Speaker 1>slice it, we have an overabundance of violence. And I'm

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<v Speaker 1>telling you, if all we had was rocks, you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>having people stoned to death here because it's just something

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<v Speaker 1>that is happening. And to my reckoning is about and

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<v Speaker 1>I know everybody goes what do you do with that?

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<v Speaker 1>But it's about this lack of value placed on human life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what it really comes down to. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see the celebrating for people being killed. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't see the you know, selective outrage or any of

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<v Speaker 1>that being helpful to handling the core issue. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the past few days have been a clear demonstration that

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<v Speaker 1>the loudest voices have little to do with the reality

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<v Speaker 1>of the situation. And I think they want more of

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<v Speaker 1>this as long as the violence is against the right

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<v Speaker 1>people in their minds. And this again is not a

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<v Speaker 1>statement about one side or the other. As long as

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<v Speaker 1>the violence is against the right people, that's okay. That's

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<v Speaker 1>really what it comes down to.

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<v Speaker 2>Anybody. There is no way that anybody can legitimately argue

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<v Speaker 2>that the violence is once fighted. You know, it's no.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't say how to put this.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I you know, I realized that you didn't say.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is is there are a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in the past two days that I have sat

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<v Speaker 2>and listened to and watch what they type, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, it's coming from some extreme and it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>wait a damn minute. You know, if you're accusing somebody

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<v Speaker 2>of something that you are doing yourself right and you

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<v Speaker 2>don't see it. I mean, kids today, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>what it is. You know, it's I hate to say

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<v Speaker 2>it because people say it's a cliche. You know. Back

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<v Speaker 2>in the day, well, you know, back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>we were capable of going to high school with a

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<v Speaker 2>thurtyot six and a shotgun in your rifle, racking your

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<v Speaker 2>pickup truck and park on campus because you went deer

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<v Speaker 2>hunting before you went to school, or you went duck

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<v Speaker 2>hunting before you went to school, and it was nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to My friend and I used to walk through the

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood with a shotgun on our shoulder, walking about four

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<v Speaker 2>blocks down to the train trestle to go across the creek.

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<v Speaker 2>We were out of the city's limits and we could

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<v Speaker 2>go dove hunting. And then from the first to September

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<v Speaker 2>to the end of the month, that's usually what we

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<v Speaker 2>did about every other afternoon. If we had the money

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<v Speaker 2>to go buy shelves. If that happened today, you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>you'd have fifty calls just in the first five blocks

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<v Speaker 2>into nine to one one, and like you, it would

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<v Speaker 2>take thirty five minutes for somebody to show up because

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<v Speaker 2>we suddenly went from the city limits to the country

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<v Speaker 2>and now the sheriff has to handle it, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>on the other side of the county. You know, it's today.

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<v Speaker 2>You couldn't get away with that. And I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>and how it got so bad. It's not the prevalence

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<v Speaker 2>of guns. We've always had guns. Most people that I

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<v Speaker 2>know growing up were raised around guns. And that's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people, a lot of people in various states.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't understand what it is that's happening to

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<v Speaker 2>the damn younger people today that they think that violence

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<v Speaker 2>is the only way to react to something.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't get it well, as I've tried to say,

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<v Speaker 1>and I get hit with or you're just deliberal. But look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you instill in a population from the time they

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<v Speaker 1>are sentient, you know in the world that nobody's life

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<v Speaker 1>is worth anything you know around you, then what's the

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<v Speaker 1>point Your life isn't worth crap? Nobody else's life is

422
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<v Speaker 1>worth the damn either. That's the thing. The devaluation of

423
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<v Speaker 1>that has been the steady trend. And you know, younger people,

424
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<v Speaker 1>older people. It's okay to mock the murder of somebody's

425
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<v Speaker 1>father sometimes, isn't it. But it's sacred if it's a

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<v Speaker 1>guy you like and they're a father. You know. That's

427
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<v Speaker 1>the thing that gets me about this is you know again,

428
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<v Speaker 1>this is me pointing a finger at liberals at the moment.

429
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<v Speaker 1>But don't worry. Hang around a second. It's okay if

430
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<v Speaker 1>it's somebody's dad and it's somebody you don't like, it's good.

431
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<v Speaker 1>It's all good. I don't care if they got beat

432
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<v Speaker 1>in the head with a hammer, because you know, Paul

433
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<v Speaker 1>Pelosi was somebody's dad, so that was okay. It doesn't

434
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<v Speaker 1>matter about those politicians that were shot and murdered in

435
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<v Speaker 1>their bed because they were Democrats. We don't have flags

436
00:26:51.160 --> 00:26:55.319
<v Speaker 1>at half masted. Right, It's okay the murder Charlie Kirk

437
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<v Speaker 1>because he was an agitator. Right, he was out there

438
00:27:00.839 --> 00:27:03.319
<v Speaker 1>proved me wrong. I don't care, and he called people names,

439
00:27:03.400 --> 00:27:07.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's okay to shoot him. Right. It was okay

440
00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:11.279
<v Speaker 1>to shoot doctor King because he was causing trouble. It's

441
00:27:11.319 --> 00:27:14.960
<v Speaker 1>okay to kill the guy who was saying ugly things

442
00:27:14.960 --> 00:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>in the street because it's all right, you know, you

443
00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.279
<v Speaker 1>know what I'm saying, Like, here we go, it's just

444
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:28.839
<v Speaker 1>people literally pre loaded with a justification. Let me find

445
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:34.480
<v Speaker 1>the justification to make it so somebody can forfeit their life.

446
00:27:35.359 --> 00:27:38.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, people do this with the paradigms of war,

447
00:27:38.240 --> 00:27:41.039
<v Speaker 1>and I get that we dehumanize the enemy and this

448
00:27:41.200 --> 00:27:42.960
<v Speaker 1>is the way it works. And that's how you rally

449
00:27:43.000 --> 00:27:47.079
<v Speaker 1>a society, that's how you keep the cause going and again,

450
00:27:47.359 --> 00:27:51.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, reliving nine to eleven trauma over and over again.

451
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<v Speaker 1>At this point, I know we should never forget and

452
00:27:56.000 --> 00:27:59.759
<v Speaker 1>all that, but man, the people that use that as

453
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<v Speaker 1>audgel that weren't even alive at the time to beat

454
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<v Speaker 1>others with because that's now justified. Whatever you do becomes

455
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:16.799
<v Speaker 1>justified because some other, for whatever reason, is now not

456
00:28:17.720 --> 00:28:22.920
<v Speaker 1>eligible to be valued as a human life. They forfeit

457
00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:26.400
<v Speaker 1>their right to breathe because they disagreed with you, because

458
00:28:26.440 --> 00:28:29.359
<v Speaker 1>they happen to be these other people, because they're associated

459
00:28:29.359 --> 00:28:31.599
<v Speaker 1>with they're in the wrong place at the wrong time.

460
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<v Speaker 1>It's okay that the guy died because he was just

461
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<v Speaker 1>a drug addict. Anyway, I mean, across the board, people

462
00:28:40.480 --> 00:28:43.759
<v Speaker 1>have this built in and sometimes they say it out loud,

463
00:28:43.839 --> 00:28:47.119
<v Speaker 1>and sometimes they don't. And I got to tell you,

464
00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:49.759
<v Speaker 1>the people with the thoughts and prayers this week with

465
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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Kirk are lying. They're lying because well, wait a minute.

466
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<v Speaker 2>You know it's funny though which you take one side

467
00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:01.279
<v Speaker 2>of the thoughts and prayers. Two weeks ago they told

468
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<v Speaker 2>you that's repugnant to say that, and yet they're the

469
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<v Speaker 2>first ones to come up there and say, ah, we

470
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<v Speaker 2>offer are parts of prayers to Charlie's family. Yeah, kiss

471
00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>my ass. Two weeks ago, when people did that for

472
00:29:12.119 --> 00:29:14.799
<v Speaker 2>parents that lost kids in the school, we had one

473
00:29:14.839 --> 00:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>side of the political spectrum saying that's repugnant, that's repulsive,

474
00:29:18.960 --> 00:29:22.559
<v Speaker 2>that's up. You're just you're disgusting for doing that. Do

475
00:29:22.720 --> 00:29:25.359
<v Speaker 2>something about it, you know, don't just offer your prayers.

476
00:29:25.720 --> 00:29:28.160
<v Speaker 2>And then here we are two weeks later, and the

477
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<v Speaker 2>ones who were coming out saying we don't need your

478
00:29:30.519 --> 00:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>thoughts and prayers, screw you, are now offering thoughts and prayers.

479
00:29:35.039 --> 00:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, but I agree with you. Look,

480
00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:40.559
<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, but I go further in that

481
00:29:40.920 --> 00:29:44.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't buy it when any of them say it. Okay,

482
00:29:44.880 --> 00:29:49.960
<v Speaker 1>literally both sides here, all sides. It's a lie because

483
00:29:50.079 --> 00:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>if you give them a look objective, objective things. Okay,

484
00:29:57.279 --> 00:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>and look, it's not about Trump. It isn't. I don't

485
00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:04.759
<v Speaker 1>care anymore, but just I can't even get people to think.

486
00:30:04.599 --> 00:30:07.880
<v Speaker 2>For a moment a lot of this about Trump.

487
00:30:08.039 --> 00:30:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Okay maybe, but but but I'm trying to say, that's

488
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<v Speaker 1>not where my thinking is when I say what I'm

489
00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:18.559
<v Speaker 1>about to lay out, which is, Okay, the drug boat

490
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<v Speaker 1>with Venezuela, which happened also in the new cycle, everybody

491
00:30:21.440 --> 00:30:24.720
<v Speaker 1>forgot about, you know, because they're either on Epstein or

492
00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:28.680
<v Speaker 1>they're on Charlie Kirk now and either you know, outrage

493
00:30:28.960 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 1>or false BS sympathy or you know, extra outrage to

494
00:30:33.759 --> 00:30:36.839
<v Speaker 1>justify what they want to do anyway, so you know,

495
00:30:36.880 --> 00:30:42.200
<v Speaker 1>all sides guilty. The thing is this, you blow up

496
00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.279
<v Speaker 1>a drug boat that's coming out of Venezuela. Eleven people

497
00:30:45.359 --> 00:30:47.680
<v Speaker 1>are on it. That's all good to kill them or

498
00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:51.839
<v Speaker 1>whatever because you say they had drugs on a boat.

499
00:30:52.759 --> 00:30:56.359
<v Speaker 1>Now I don't know what the evidence was, but is

500
00:30:56.480 --> 00:31:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that the functionality? Yes, it is, you judged somebody, You

501
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:05.799
<v Speaker 1>declared it. You don't have to investigate, prove it in

502
00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:09.279
<v Speaker 1>a court, do anything else, no kind of process do

503
00:31:09.480 --> 00:31:12.720
<v Speaker 1>or otherwise, and it's all good. See that was a

504
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>good thing that was done. Now I'm not saying that

505
00:31:16.680 --> 00:31:18.519
<v Speaker 1>it's not done on the other side, because the other

506
00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:23.079
<v Speaker 1>side will tell you that. Well, you know what here

507
00:31:23.119 --> 00:31:25.319
<v Speaker 1>it is you want to live in a place where

508
00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>you know your governor behaves a certain way. It's like

509
00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.559
<v Speaker 1>your kids deserve to get shot in school. I mean

510
00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that's the attitude. That's the coded attitude. And it goes across.

511
00:31:34.960 --> 00:31:36.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, you don't want to live in you

512
00:31:36.720 --> 00:31:39.440
<v Speaker 1>want to live into a place that's run by DeSantis. Well,

513
00:31:39.480 --> 00:31:41.920
<v Speaker 1>then you know people are going to get shot, okay.

514
00:31:43.160 --> 00:31:44.799
<v Speaker 1>And then on the other side, you want to live

515
00:31:44.799 --> 00:31:47.559
<v Speaker 1>in New York or Chicago. Hey, look they got democratic mayors.

516
00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:54.359
<v Speaker 1>You're going to get shot? When is it not okay?

517
00:31:54.440 --> 00:31:57.079
<v Speaker 1>You know, when can we Is there a point we

518
00:31:57.119 --> 00:32:02.480
<v Speaker 1>could rehabilitate ourselves to say murder is not good even

519
00:32:02.839 --> 00:32:07.759
<v Speaker 1>in all circumstances. You know, if someone dies in the

520
00:32:07.799 --> 00:32:12.720
<v Speaker 1>course of action because of self defense, it's one thing.

521
00:32:14.119 --> 00:32:20.160
<v Speaker 1>But when someone is just murdered, I don't care what

522
00:32:20.200 --> 00:32:24.200
<v Speaker 1>their politics are, what their parents' politics are. You know,

523
00:32:24.839 --> 00:32:27.720
<v Speaker 1>generally speaking, people with more money don't get shot up

524
00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:31.759
<v Speaker 1>as often. Okay, there is a divide there, but whether

525
00:32:31.799 --> 00:32:34.119
<v Speaker 1>they got money or not is not relevant to their

526
00:32:34.200 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 1>right to breathe and to not be shot going about

527
00:32:38.759 --> 00:32:43.759
<v Speaker 1>their day going to Walmart. Okay, on a college campus,

528
00:32:44.039 --> 00:32:47.519
<v Speaker 1>doing the proved me wrong routine. I don't care what

529
00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.519
<v Speaker 1>you're doing. You didn't enter into the equation of you

530
00:32:51.640 --> 00:32:56.319
<v Speaker 1>deserve to be murdered. And I don't know why it

531
00:32:56.440 --> 00:32:58.480
<v Speaker 1>is that it's going to be like the other side,

532
00:32:58.519 --> 00:33:02.240
<v Speaker 1>the other side, the other side. Okay, great, but you

533
00:33:02.400 --> 00:33:08.119
<v Speaker 1>better admit that all sides are justifying murder here. They

534
00:33:08.160 --> 00:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>do it on different levels, in different places, with different

535
00:33:10.920 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>people that they think are eligible or legitimate targets. And

536
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:18.480
<v Speaker 1>that's why I'm calling all of them liars. All these

537
00:33:18.480 --> 00:33:20.599
<v Speaker 1>thoughts and prayers, people that have been doing this now,

538
00:33:20.680 --> 00:33:24.480
<v Speaker 1>you know, ever since Columbine to my memory, you know,

539
00:33:24.640 --> 00:33:27.319
<v Speaker 1>even though I've tried to explain to people, it's like, oh, Columbine,

540
00:33:27.319 --> 00:33:30.480
<v Speaker 1>that's when school shooting started. No, they just didn't call

541
00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:32.680
<v Speaker 1>it that. People used to get shot, kids used to

542
00:33:32.680 --> 00:33:35.759
<v Speaker 1>get shot at school, but it was in certain neighborhoods,

543
00:33:35.839 --> 00:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>so it was ignored. Okay, school shootings occurred my whole

544
00:33:41.559 --> 00:33:45.079
<v Speaker 1>life on many different, you know, It's just it's not

545
00:33:45.200 --> 00:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>recorded like it became recorded after the national attention put

546
00:33:49.920 --> 00:33:57.039
<v Speaker 1>on Columbine. It is now recorded differently. But violence in

547
00:33:57.119 --> 00:34:03.440
<v Speaker 1>the schools was going on in my lifetime. Maybe before

548
00:34:03.480 --> 00:34:05.240
<v Speaker 1>I was born, it wasn't like that. I don't know,

549
00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.000
<v Speaker 1>but I'm telling you that ever since I set foot

550
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.519
<v Speaker 1>in the school and ever since I was aware of

551
00:34:10.559 --> 00:34:18.159
<v Speaker 1>other places, this has been something that happens. So you know, again,

552
00:34:18.440 --> 00:34:21.639
<v Speaker 1>it's not about this generation. It's not about how many

553
00:34:21.639 --> 00:34:30.119
<v Speaker 1>guns there are. It's about a festering ugliness in the

554
00:34:30.199 --> 00:34:35.480
<v Speaker 1>soul of this country that is well, at a certain point,

555
00:34:37.119 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 1>you're you're worthy of not being worthy to live. I mean,

556
00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know how else to boil it down. I mean,

557
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.400
<v Speaker 1>do you think I'm crazy for saying this? And by

558
00:34:47.440 --> 00:34:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the way, Jimmy James is on the line, I see

559
00:34:49.159 --> 00:34:52.800
<v Speaker 1>you now. I'm gonna get whoever calls in three one nine,

560
00:34:52.840 --> 00:34:55.559
<v Speaker 1>five two seven, five zero one six. You want to

561
00:34:55.599 --> 00:34:57.280
<v Speaker 1>get in on this, you want to talk about it,

562
00:34:57.320 --> 00:34:59.800
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna say what you're gonna say. And I don't

563
00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:03.599
<v Speaker 1>want to argue with anybody, I really don't. All I

564
00:35:03.639 --> 00:35:09.679
<v Speaker 1>want to do is figure out a way to address

565
00:35:10.320 --> 00:35:13.719
<v Speaker 1>the real issue, which in my mind maybe I'm just

566
00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:18.440
<v Speaker 1>a crazy, stupid you know, I'm not somebody who is like,

567
00:35:18.559 --> 00:35:20.920
<v Speaker 1>you know, so out of touch with the ideas of

568
00:35:20.960 --> 00:35:27.639
<v Speaker 1>the troubles. I'm not, I really and I see people

569
00:35:27.679 --> 00:35:30.079
<v Speaker 1>with that whole thing. You know, Well, people choose to

570
00:35:30.119 --> 00:35:32.199
<v Speaker 1>be poor, so that's the way that is, and people

571
00:35:32.320 --> 00:35:37.800
<v Speaker 1>choose to live in violent places. That is as asinine

572
00:35:39.199 --> 00:35:43.400
<v Speaker 1>as anything else. You know, you don't sit there and go,

573
00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:44.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be poor,

574
00:35:44.880 --> 00:35:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna live in a place where I can

575
00:35:47.119 --> 00:35:50.960
<v Speaker 1>definitely worry about getting shot just walking down the street.

576
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<v Speaker 1>That's where I want to be. I'm sure there's a

577
00:35:54.320 --> 00:35:56.360
<v Speaker 1>percentage of people that have that thought in their minds,

578
00:35:56.400 --> 00:36:00.559
<v Speaker 1>but I don't think anybody consciously does that. You know,

579
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:06.480
<v Speaker 1>let's be realistic, even even criminals, right, you know, the

580
00:36:06.719 --> 00:36:10.360
<v Speaker 1>criminal people who are deserving of X y Z, they

581
00:36:10.360 --> 00:36:15.360
<v Speaker 1>don't usually want to live in the you know, where

582
00:36:15.400 --> 00:36:18.880
<v Speaker 1>do the gangsters put their houses? Where do the gang

583
00:36:18.920 --> 00:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>bangers move their mamas to When they're making good money

584
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:26.119
<v Speaker 1>on drugs, they don't leave them in the roughest neighborhoods. Usually,

585
00:36:27.679 --> 00:36:29.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, there's a bit of a trend about that's right.

586
00:36:29.800 --> 00:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>We never lift the neighborhood. We never lift the hood.

587
00:36:32.519 --> 00:36:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Tough guy talk, but you ever examine the guys that

588
00:36:35.440 --> 00:36:40.239
<v Speaker 1>are actually successful, They don't leave their people in the

589
00:36:40.280 --> 00:36:44.559
<v Speaker 1>bad neighborhoods. Nobody wants to live in the toilet. If

590
00:36:44.599 --> 00:36:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you got a choice, you know, nobody wants to live

591
00:36:49.119 --> 00:36:51.800
<v Speaker 1>where you're fearing for your life all the time. If

592
00:36:51.800 --> 00:36:55.639
<v Speaker 1>you got a choice, you really don't. Most people do

593
00:36:55.679 --> 00:36:59.239
<v Speaker 1>not want to live there. That includes drug addicts and

594
00:36:59.280 --> 00:37:03.559
<v Speaker 1>even most mental patients really don't enjoy being shot at

595
00:37:03.719 --> 00:37:07.679
<v Speaker 1>or fearing for their lives. They really don't, regardless of

596
00:37:07.719 --> 00:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>what people try to tell you. So the circumstance that

597
00:37:12.519 --> 00:37:17.519
<v Speaker 1>nobody wants continues to happen way too often in a

598
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>place where we're supposed to have and be able to

599
00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:27.679
<v Speaker 1>be the best of everything, right, isn't that the idea?

600
00:37:27.760 --> 00:37:31.920
<v Speaker 5>Here?

601
00:37:31.039 --> 00:37:34.000
<v Speaker 1>We're we're not succeeding. I mean, do you do you

602
00:37:34.079 --> 00:37:37.000
<v Speaker 1>understand where I'm coming from? Or am I really? If

603
00:37:37.039 --> 00:37:39.719
<v Speaker 1>you think I'm just being stupid, fine tell me that

604
00:37:40.039 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I have no.

605
00:37:41.079 --> 00:37:44.320
<v Speaker 2>I understand exactly where you're coming from, because you know

606
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm like you, I would love to live somewhere else

607
00:37:47.679 --> 00:37:50.440
<v Speaker 2>if I could afford it. You know, I would love

608
00:37:50.519 --> 00:37:55.360
<v Speaker 2>to be able to provide for other people if I

609
00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:59.559
<v Speaker 2>could afford it. Sure, I got lucky in my situation

610
00:37:59.679 --> 00:38:04.320
<v Speaker 2>where I live. I've got great neighbors, you know, kind

611
00:38:04.320 --> 00:38:07.440
<v Speaker 2>of like you you know, a one cop town that

612
00:38:07.559 --> 00:38:10.000
<v Speaker 2>if anything happens after seven o'clock at night, you're waiting

613
00:38:10.039 --> 00:38:14.599
<v Speaker 2>on a sheriff to show up that's forty miles away.

614
00:38:14.800 --> 00:38:18.760
<v Speaker 2>It's just I think something has happened, and I can't

615
00:38:18.800 --> 00:38:22.800
<v Speaker 2>put my finger on it.

616
00:38:22.000 --> 00:38:23.960
<v Speaker 1>It didn't happen yesterday.

617
00:38:25.519 --> 00:38:28.039
<v Speaker 2>No, No, somehow, No, it didn't happen yesterday, And it's

618
00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.079
<v Speaker 2>been going on, and I'm trying to put my finger

619
00:38:30.119 --> 00:38:33.880
<v Speaker 2>on when the decline started. I'm still go by my

620
00:38:34.000 --> 00:38:39.360
<v Speaker 2>theory that the disposable, non returnable bottle was the start

621
00:38:39.400 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>of our downfall, as the civilization could be. But something

622
00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.000
<v Speaker 2>has gone on the past couple generations. I mean, we've

623
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<v Speaker 2>had what we've had twenty four years since nine to eleven,

624
00:38:51.280 --> 00:38:56.880
<v Speaker 2>which completely changed the world. It changed us, probably more

625
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 2>than the rest of the world because it happened here.

626
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<v Speaker 2>We had to take a long, hard look at ourselves.

627
00:39:02.559 --> 00:39:06.599
<v Speaker 2>When that happened. Did we learn anything from it? A

628
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<v Speaker 2>few things, But I think we have forgotten some important

629
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<v Speaker 2>things that came out of that and we were not

630
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<v Speaker 2>keeping those in mind. But somehow, generationally, people have devolved.

631
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<v Speaker 2>It's not the I don't think society has devolved. I

632
00:39:25.400 --> 00:39:31.440
<v Speaker 2>think individuals have devolved, which then reflects in society devolving.

633
00:39:32.440 --> 00:39:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It starts with the individual, and I don't people today

634
00:39:37.000 --> 00:39:41.920
<v Speaker 2>don't have any accountability. They don't want to take accountability

635
00:39:41.960 --> 00:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>for anything. They jump to conclusions, they play the stereotypes,

636
00:39:48.519 --> 00:39:51.599
<v Speaker 2>they live off of memes, and they have the intention

637
00:39:51.800 --> 00:39:56.360
<v Speaker 2>span of a knack. And it's just made for a

638
00:39:56.559 --> 00:40:00.280
<v Speaker 2>worse society overall. I'm being honest with you. I would

639
00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.400
<v Speaker 2>hate to have to raise kids in today's world. Yeah, well,

640
00:40:03.880 --> 00:40:06.559
<v Speaker 2>you know we used to in my day. It was

641
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<v Speaker 2>the civil hide under the desk emergency drill in case

642
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>of a nuclear attack. You know, they don't want to

643
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<v Speaker 2>tell us. Look, you can get under the desk, but

644
00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:20.920
<v Speaker 2>when the desk melts along with you, it really doesn't

645
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<v Speaker 2>do any good. But we did that. I could not

646
00:40:23.840 --> 00:40:26.159
<v Speaker 2>imagine having to have a kid in school that has

647
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<v Speaker 2>to go through a shooter scenario.

648
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, they didn't drill that.

649
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's outrageous and something has caused this, this de

650
00:40:37.960 --> 00:40:41.360
<v Speaker 2>evolution of people, and I don't know. I'm gonna probably

651
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<v Speaker 2>stay up the next four weeks trying to figure it out.

652
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<v Speaker 1>No, I hear you, and I'm telling you now that

653
00:40:46.679 --> 00:40:51.800
<v Speaker 1>realistic conversations about you know, when I decided to have children,

654
00:40:52.840 --> 00:40:57.039
<v Speaker 1>you know, I questioned the wisdom. You know. I love

655
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<v Speaker 1>my youngest son, you know that. But I look at

656
00:41:03.400 --> 00:41:09.000
<v Speaker 1>him and I want to apologize to him that, you know,

657
00:41:09.599 --> 00:41:14.360
<v Speaker 1>I willfully brought him into the circumstance that we find

658
00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 1>ourselves in. We should be able to do better. Well,

659
00:41:20.239 --> 00:41:22.639
<v Speaker 1>I'm serious, we should be able to do better and better.

660
00:41:22.679 --> 00:41:26.280
<v Speaker 2>But that doesn't You shouldn't. You shouldn't feel like you

661
00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:29.199
<v Speaker 2>have to apologize for bringing somebody into this world and

662
00:41:29.239 --> 00:41:31.159
<v Speaker 2>the world is the way it is because you had

663
00:41:31.199 --> 00:41:34.280
<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with the downfall of society.

664
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, yeah, but I might not have. I might not

665
00:41:37.719 --> 00:41:41.480
<v Speaker 1>have caused him to have to endure this had I considered,

666
00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:45.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I did. I existed in the pre

667
00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>surveillance society here, you know, where everything was not surveilled.

668
00:41:49.960 --> 00:41:52.639
<v Speaker 1>Because that's another thing. We got more eyes on things

669
00:41:52.679 --> 00:41:56.559
<v Speaker 1>than we ever have. It is harder to get away

670
00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.719
<v Speaker 1>with things in the dark, and yet we are blind

671
00:41:59.800 --> 00:42:03.840
<v Speaker 1>to what's really rotting us exactly, and and and that

672
00:42:04.039 --> 00:42:07.440
<v Speaker 1>is the thing that is. Yeah, I got to apologize

673
00:42:07.480 --> 00:42:11.880
<v Speaker 1>because I should have thought better of how to prepare him,

674
00:42:12.800 --> 00:42:16.239
<v Speaker 1>of when to choose to have him. And you know,

675
00:42:16.280 --> 00:42:19.400
<v Speaker 1>I got older kids too, who don't know a reality's

676
00:42:19.400 --> 00:42:25.400
<v Speaker 1>previous to the surveillance state, to surveillance capitalism, to everything

677
00:42:25.440 --> 00:42:30.199
<v Speaker 1>you do being tracked, which is also not good either

678
00:42:30.320 --> 00:42:34.039
<v Speaker 1>and has not helped as far as you know, it doesn't.

679
00:42:34.079 --> 00:42:36.159
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't stop that. I mean, they had film with

680
00:42:36.239 --> 00:42:39.280
<v Speaker 1>this guy on the roof, various people with their phones,

681
00:42:39.320 --> 00:42:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a bunch of you know, forget about big brother you

682
00:42:41.599 --> 00:42:44.119
<v Speaker 1>got them, you got millions of little brothers out there

683
00:42:44.559 --> 00:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>recording everything. And still it took him two days to

684
00:42:49.239 --> 00:42:55.360
<v Speaker 1>to arrest this guy. Anyway, I'm just saying, look, Jimmy

685
00:42:55.440 --> 00:42:57.000
<v Speaker 1>James has been on hole the while, and I want

686
00:42:57.039 --> 00:42:58.719
<v Speaker 1>to get him on. I want to get anybody on

687
00:42:58.800 --> 00:43:01.639
<v Speaker 1>and calls in, so I want to give him a

688
00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:05.000
<v Speaker 1>chance to speak his mind, whatever that may be. And

689
00:43:05.679 --> 00:43:10.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, oh, be Pete, where'd you go? Crap? Okay?

690
00:43:10.719 --> 00:43:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I lost be Pete. I'm gonna try and get him back.

691
00:43:12.920 --> 00:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>But in the meantime, Jimmy, maybe I gotta go to

692
00:43:17.559 --> 00:43:19.519
<v Speaker 1>a break and refix the thing with be Pete. But

693
00:43:19.599 --> 00:43:22.159
<v Speaker 1>before I do that, you just, oh, there he is.

694
00:43:22.199 --> 00:43:25.559
<v Speaker 1>I think he's back.

695
00:43:25.559 --> 00:43:27.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what happened. I just cleared out, kicked

696
00:43:27.480 --> 00:43:28.199
<v Speaker 2>out my browser.

697
00:43:28.440 --> 00:43:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well you're back. Jimmy's on the line. So

698
00:43:32.559 --> 00:43:42.280
<v Speaker 1>I turned it over to Jimmy to say whatever he wants.

699
00:43:44.480 --> 00:43:45.599
<v Speaker 5>I can't hear myself.

700
00:43:48.920 --> 00:43:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I'm sorry about that. I don't know why,

701
00:43:51.000 --> 00:43:54.199
<v Speaker 1>but you're coming through.

702
00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.800
<v Speaker 2>Okay, before he gets gone? Have you here anything from

703
00:43:57.800 --> 00:43:58.199
<v Speaker 2>his fame?

704
00:44:00.679 --> 00:44:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Anything from what.

705
00:44:05.320 --> 00:44:07.679
<v Speaker 2>I said before Jimmy gets gone? Have we heard anything

706
00:44:07.679 --> 00:44:10.760
<v Speaker 2>from his fan? You know, Jimmy a man with a fan.

707
00:44:11.519 --> 00:44:13.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, but there was more than one of them.

708
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 1>I have not gotten a response on Facebook from the guy.

709
00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:21.880
<v Speaker 1>So let me try and turn myself down a little bit.

710
00:44:21.920 --> 00:44:24.119
<v Speaker 1>So maybe I don't know. Maybe that's what's echoing back

711
00:44:24.119 --> 00:44:27.559
<v Speaker 1>to Jimmy. But see if I can help out here.

712
00:44:27.559 --> 00:44:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Oh is that about?

713
00:44:32.239 --> 00:44:36.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah? I hear myself. What's the word?

714
00:44:37.000 --> 00:44:39.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So go ahead with what's on your mind. Sorry

715
00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:40.280
<v Speaker 1>about that.

716
00:44:44.199 --> 00:44:56.119
<v Speaker 5>We just uh said a couple of things. I'll go

717
00:44:56.239 --> 00:45:09.199
<v Speaker 5>through the first rose before the trailer, Kurt assassination, such

718
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:10.960
<v Speaker 5>a JFK related thing.

719
00:45:12.199 --> 00:45:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Uh don't.

720
00:45:14.079 --> 00:45:22.800
<v Speaker 5>I'll just in my own mind, I've pretty much Celtic

721
00:45:23.000 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 5>Cuban G two had anything to do with that. I'm

722
00:45:27.000 --> 00:45:31.800
<v Speaker 5>more like dissolved to that.

723
00:45:33.320 --> 00:45:34.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, you know what I mean?

724
00:45:36.679 --> 00:45:42.639
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, these are being hostly. I there's this.

725
00:45:42.719 --> 00:45:48.960
<v Speaker 6>Film I had not Did you know that Alpha sixty six,

726
00:45:49.760 --> 00:45:54.000
<v Speaker 6>I guess is still around and was quite active in

727
00:45:54.039 --> 00:45:54.760
<v Speaker 6>the nineties.

728
00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know necessarily their active time period was, but

729
00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>I know they existed after the sixties. Yeah, and uh.

730
00:46:07.159 --> 00:46:12.119
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Well apparently it's still around because I watched this film.

731
00:46:11.880 --> 00:46:17.480
<v Speaker 6>That really it's called uh and it's you know, any

732
00:46:17.519 --> 00:46:22.360
<v Speaker 6>of these channels on your phone, you could pretty.

733
00:46:22.159 --> 00:46:25.519
<v Speaker 5>Much watch it for free. I watched it out to

734
00:46:25.760 --> 00:46:32.199
<v Speaker 5>Be or Tubby. I think it's called to Be Okay

735
00:46:33.000 --> 00:46:36.320
<v Speaker 5>to Be. It's the one I got installed that came

736
00:46:36.360 --> 00:46:44.000
<v Speaker 5>with a stupid phone. Well, the films. It's a documentary

737
00:46:44.000 --> 00:46:49.719
<v Speaker 5>and it was called Castro's Spies, and it was about

738
00:46:50.039 --> 00:46:57.760
<v Speaker 5>five Cuban agents who were uh living living black in

739
00:46:57.840 --> 00:47:01.639
<v Speaker 5>the United States on the half of the Cuban g

740
00:47:01.920 --> 00:47:06.320
<v Speaker 5>T two and I got well of my notes. One second.

741
00:47:07.679 --> 00:47:12.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, sure, Also, they just wrapped filming of November twenty second,

742
00:47:12.960 --> 00:47:17.719
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty three in Canada, as I understand it, they're

743
00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.480
<v Speaker 1>now going to post production. And I don't know a

744
00:47:20.519 --> 00:47:22.480
<v Speaker 1>ton about that, but I was going to read up

745
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:24.960
<v Speaker 1>on that film because it's going to be yet another

746
00:47:25.039 --> 00:47:27.920
<v Speaker 1>one of these, you know, Hollywood creations. I don't know

747
00:47:27.920 --> 00:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>if it's been filmed for a streaming service or for

748
00:47:30.920 --> 00:47:35.679
<v Speaker 1>theater release or what, but apparently, you know, it's another

749
00:47:35.719 --> 00:47:40.519
<v Speaker 1>one of these mob driven scenarios, informed by, you know,

750
00:47:40.599 --> 00:47:44.960
<v Speaker 1>the family of one of the prominent, most often named mobsters.

751
00:47:46.239 --> 00:47:48.599
<v Speaker 1>It has some interesting stars. I should probably look that

752
00:47:48.679 --> 00:47:51.639
<v Speaker 1>up while I'm talking to you, but you're talking about

753
00:47:51.639 --> 00:47:56.039
<v Speaker 1>this G two Cuban intelligence. Go ahead.

754
00:47:56.320 --> 00:48:02.960
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, So there's a documentary slum Boxer. Looks like it's

755
00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.400
<v Speaker 5>from the nineties. The story is here from the nineties.

756
00:48:07.119 --> 00:48:10.239
<v Speaker 6>And what happened was is okay.

757
00:48:09.960 --> 00:48:13.039
<v Speaker 5>So if the dolls got these five guys, they're over here.

758
00:48:13.639 --> 00:48:18.760
<v Speaker 5>These are false ideas and they've pretty much been here

759
00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:23.639
<v Speaker 5>throughout the eighties into the nineties, and would Basically their

760
00:48:23.719 --> 00:48:26.920
<v Speaker 5>job was to report on the activities of the Miami

761
00:48:27.079 --> 00:48:39.960
<v Speaker 5>area Cubans and these Cuban these Cuban Cubans, the people

762
00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.239
<v Speaker 5>that they ended up being called the Cuban Five. In

763
00:48:43.280 --> 00:48:48.480
<v Speaker 5>the nineties, they were watching and actually this is the

764
00:48:48.519 --> 00:48:53.159
<v Speaker 5>part that I was shocked out, the sixty six and

765
00:48:53.280 --> 00:49:00.519
<v Speaker 5>they were working with Orlando Bosh.

766
00:48:59.639 --> 00:49:04.960
<v Speaker 6>And these Keevan Fire These guys.

767
00:49:06.400 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 5>At that time around ninety five, six, seven, eight, nineties,

768
00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:19.800
<v Speaker 5>think the stuff's going on, that's our community was doing

769
00:49:20.000 --> 00:49:26.119
<v Speaker 5>flights over Havana purposely trying to uh attag a nice

770
00:49:26.320 --> 00:49:33.079
<v Speaker 5>castro and drop leaflets and this, and these guys, all

771
00:49:33.119 --> 00:49:37.000
<v Speaker 5>a lot of them infiltrated the group and found out

772
00:49:37.000 --> 00:49:40.800
<v Speaker 5>that they were going to start doing it with explosives

773
00:49:41.280 --> 00:49:45.559
<v Speaker 5>in the nineteen nineties, mind you. And it's the same

774
00:49:45.679 --> 00:49:49.320
<v Speaker 5>names that we all have come to know and love

775
00:49:50.400 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 5>as the heads of these things. And these Kevan spies

776
00:49:55.159 --> 00:50:00.559
<v Speaker 5>found themselves in the predicament of saying, what do we do?

777
00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:07.159
<v Speaker 5>Should we call the ft Eye to try to prevent this?

778
00:50:07.719 --> 00:50:11.320
<v Speaker 6>You know what I'm saying, Well, anyways.

779
00:50:10.880 --> 00:50:15.000
<v Speaker 5>It cannot be the I had already pretty much have

780
00:50:15.079 --> 00:50:21.039
<v Speaker 5>been spying on them. Well, Cuba did ended up shooting

781
00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:25.840
<v Speaker 5>down one of them planes from the soapball the Brothers,

782
00:50:26.280 --> 00:50:31.719
<v Speaker 5>the Brothers whatever is that the current? The axiles were

783
00:50:31.760 --> 00:50:36.679
<v Speaker 5>flying around the waters looking for jute bins on wraps,

784
00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:45.599
<v Speaker 5>I guess. Anyways, these Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And so

785
00:50:45.760 --> 00:50:49.800
<v Speaker 5>these guys get arrested and they're trying to tell the

786
00:50:49.920 --> 00:50:53.760
<v Speaker 5>FDI eye and all these people will forget us. We

787
00:50:53.840 --> 00:50:57.480
<v Speaker 5>hadn't even done anything. It's help the sixty six people.

788
00:50:57.480 --> 00:51:00.880
<v Speaker 5>You got to look at their plotting all kinds of

789
00:51:02.599 --> 00:51:08.760
<v Speaker 5>terrorist activities. But yeah, that sentenced to afty prison time.

790
00:51:09.880 --> 00:51:13.639
<v Speaker 5>But then I went and trade them off for something

791
00:51:14.039 --> 00:51:18.480
<v Speaker 5>to Castros. So they all got back to Cuba and

792
00:51:18.599 --> 00:51:24.320
<v Speaker 5>they actually did the interviews. And what I found shocking was,

793
00:51:25.119 --> 00:51:29.760
<v Speaker 5>I mean, just as people, I think, geez, these Cuban

794
00:51:30.039 --> 00:51:34.800
<v Speaker 5>g two people's at least this film the first they

795
00:51:34.840 --> 00:51:37.920
<v Speaker 5>play at the actual interviews, I'm like, well, do they

796
00:51:38.000 --> 00:51:41.199
<v Speaker 5>seem like a lot more reasonable than their counterparts?

797
00:51:41.400 --> 00:51:41.719
<v Speaker 2>Uaite?

798
00:51:41.880 --> 00:51:47.159
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, yeah, it's a mixed bag with all that, because

799
00:51:47.480 --> 00:51:50.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's Central and South American figures that are

800
00:51:50.400 --> 00:51:54.840
<v Speaker 1>tied to you know, these radical groups and infiltration groups

801
00:51:54.880 --> 00:51:58.039
<v Speaker 1>and stuff. You know, once there was no longer a

802
00:51:58.079 --> 00:52:02.199
<v Speaker 1>project in America. Some of them turn around and get

803
00:52:02.239 --> 00:52:07.239
<v Speaker 1>involved in other Central and South American conflicts, drug dealing,

804
00:52:07.920 --> 00:52:12.320
<v Speaker 1>death squads. You'd be amazed at how these guys, you know,

805
00:52:12.639 --> 00:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of just living in the invisible part of society.

806
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:19.280
<v Speaker 1>Guess what they find themselves occupied with a bunch of

807
00:52:19.320 --> 00:52:23.639
<v Speaker 1>different things. There are weird names repeated where the DEA

808
00:52:23.840 --> 00:52:27.639
<v Speaker 1>comes across these guys, you know, and they're like, what

809
00:52:27.880 --> 00:52:31.880
<v Speaker 1>are these you know, like radical anti Castro or pro

810
00:52:32.000 --> 00:52:38.079
<v Speaker 1>Castro people doing involved with you know, Guatemalans. What are

811
00:52:38.079 --> 00:52:38.599
<v Speaker 1>they doing?

812
00:52:39.840 --> 00:52:43.039
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's the problem. That's what these stupids are saying.

813
00:52:43.159 --> 00:52:48.880
<v Speaker 5>They're saying what in the house, the FBIDDE and all

814
00:52:48.960 --> 00:52:54.719
<v Speaker 5>the rest doing Ignoring these people. That's why Castro felt

815
00:52:54.760 --> 00:52:58.159
<v Speaker 5>the need to send these people here to watch them, right,

816
00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:03.039
<v Speaker 5>because these people are not I'm sorry to say, I mean,

817
00:53:03.119 --> 00:53:05.360
<v Speaker 5>I'm gonna try to talk to.

818
00:53:09.519 --> 00:53:15.360
<v Speaker 6>I mean, I yes, I have to ask what's the

819
00:53:15.480 --> 00:53:17.800
<v Speaker 6>difference between Is there.

820
00:53:17.679 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 5>A difference between Felix Rodriguez and these nuts?

821
00:53:23.159 --> 00:53:26.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, it depends on what time period you're talking about, because,

822
00:53:26.719 --> 00:53:30.400
<v Speaker 1>like I said, at a certain point, they're dedicated to,

823
00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:36.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, reclaiming Cuba, Right, that's their thing, that's their homeland.

824
00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.280
<v Speaker 1>They want it back from Castro or they want to

825
00:53:39.280 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 1>support Castro, depending on which guys you're talking about, right,

826
00:53:43.159 --> 00:53:47.320
<v Speaker 1>And they're occupied with all that, But then they get

827
00:53:47.360 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 1>cut loose. They find themselves in situations where they know

828
00:53:51.760 --> 00:53:54.920
<v Speaker 1>gun runners, they know people that are willing to you know,

829
00:53:55.079 --> 00:53:59.039
<v Speaker 1>launder money and hide stuff and have connections to you know,

830
00:53:59.119 --> 00:54:03.760
<v Speaker 1>not just American intelligence, but other intelligence agencies, like there

831
00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:06.960
<v Speaker 1>is a whole interesting story about the ready for this,

832
00:54:07.039 --> 00:54:11.239
<v Speaker 1>the Mexican Intelligence agency, which the name escapes me at

833
00:54:11.239 --> 00:54:15.199
<v Speaker 1>the moment. There is a whole nexus of people that

834
00:54:15.320 --> 00:54:20.719
<v Speaker 1>came together in Mexico, you know, post assassination time when

835
00:54:20.719 --> 00:54:24.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody's dealing with that intrigue afterwards. There is a whole

836
00:54:24.840 --> 00:54:30.199
<v Speaker 1>untold story there that, to my mind suspiciously looks like

837
00:54:31.119 --> 00:54:33.679
<v Speaker 1>there might have been people that you know, were involved

838
00:54:33.840 --> 00:54:36.280
<v Speaker 1>in all this cloak and dagger stuff in the sixties,

839
00:54:36.639 --> 00:54:40.079
<v Speaker 1>who in the seventies and eighties helped to do what

840
00:54:40.440 --> 00:54:46.199
<v Speaker 1>facilitate these different drug cartels and stuff like that put

841
00:54:46.239 --> 00:54:49.079
<v Speaker 1>them in business. And you know, we figure it out,

842
00:54:49.159 --> 00:54:52.320
<v Speaker 1>or the public figures it out twenty thirty years after

843
00:54:52.360 --> 00:54:55.760
<v Speaker 1>the fact, and these guys were there making a living

844
00:54:56.519 --> 00:54:59.400
<v Speaker 1>just because you know, what are they going to do

845
00:54:59.480 --> 00:55:03.480
<v Speaker 1>with their face paperwork when you know they're no longer

846
00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:07.239
<v Speaker 1>being supported. You know, whether it's the guys that were

847
00:55:07.239 --> 00:55:10.320
<v Speaker 1>being supported by our intelligence agency or it's the guys

848
00:55:10.320 --> 00:55:14.920
<v Speaker 1>that were being supported by Castro's regime, it's irrelevant. They

849
00:55:15.039 --> 00:55:18.360
<v Speaker 1>end up loosed into well, I can speak Spanish, I

850
00:55:18.440 --> 00:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>know how to do stuff off the books, and they

851
00:55:21.719 --> 00:55:24.000
<v Speaker 1>get involved. Like I said, there's guys linked to death

852
00:55:24.039 --> 00:55:28.480
<v Speaker 1>squads that are showing up that. Like I said, DEA

853
00:55:28.599 --> 00:55:30.920
<v Speaker 1>guys are like I didn't realize I was in the

854
00:55:31.039 --> 00:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>room with, you know, a spy and alleged assassin. You know,

855
00:55:37.639 --> 00:55:40.000
<v Speaker 1>when I'm out there trying to track things down, this

856
00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:44.400
<v Speaker 1>guy's given me guidance, you know, through the hills in Colombia,

857
00:55:45.079 --> 00:55:49.599
<v Speaker 1>even though he's not Colombian, right I mean. And meanwhile,

858
00:55:49.679 --> 00:55:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you know there's a whole thing of the DEA agents

859
00:55:52.440 --> 00:55:54.199
<v Speaker 1>that got hung out to dry where it was like

860
00:55:54.880 --> 00:55:57.719
<v Speaker 1>they knew that their cover was blown, their bosses still

861
00:55:57.760 --> 00:56:00.960
<v Speaker 1>sent them out there. And some of these guys turn

862
00:56:01.039 --> 00:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>up in those circumstances, like the whole murder of Kiki Camaretta,

863
00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>there is a whole weird thing going on where you

864
00:56:08.960 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 1>got CIA guys showing up who instructed the people that

865
00:56:13.400 --> 00:56:16.159
<v Speaker 1>you know murdered him in torture techniques a couple of

866
00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:22.079
<v Speaker 1>years earlier, and it is a whole tangled mess that

867
00:56:22.559 --> 00:56:25.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, people try to oversimplify, but there is a

868
00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:28.559
<v Speaker 1>whole thing that goes on. It's the gift that keeps

869
00:56:28.679 --> 00:56:33.079
<v Speaker 1>on giving, you know. By the way, I brought up

870
00:56:33.119 --> 00:56:37.679
<v Speaker 1>that film earlier, and it is eleven two sixty three,

871
00:56:37.840 --> 00:56:41.559
<v Speaker 1>and it's a Hulu film apparently, and the thing that

872
00:56:41.679 --> 00:56:46.679
<v Speaker 1>just wrapped production stars John Travolta, Mandy Patankin, and a

873
00:56:46.719 --> 00:56:53.039
<v Speaker 1>guy named Robert Carlisle. And its main premise is about,

874
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, the Chicago outfit tied to the John F.

875
00:56:55.480 --> 00:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Kennedy assassination. So there's that. Yeah.

876
00:57:01.440 --> 00:57:06.440
<v Speaker 5>Another and here's another movie that sells to me if

877
00:57:06.440 --> 00:57:15.960
<v Speaker 5>you if you really want to get agitated. I tried

878
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 5>to watch this film three years ago, but you thought

879
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:25.000
<v Speaker 5>it was the the Umbrella Man footage. Now they made

880
00:57:25.039 --> 00:57:30.480
<v Speaker 5>a feature film, a dramatic film, somebody did. And I'm

881
00:57:30.599 --> 00:57:34.000
<v Speaker 5>curious as who did this because it was prop anti

882
00:57:35.320 --> 00:57:40.840
<v Speaker 5>JFK researcher propaganda. What it was disguised as a normal

883
00:57:41.199 --> 00:57:49.039
<v Speaker 5>drama film, and whoever did it, I could tell his

884
00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.760
<v Speaker 5>low budget. I found it amusing that there was a

885
00:57:52.800 --> 00:57:56.840
<v Speaker 5>few shout outs to us that actually know something, you know,

886
00:57:57.599 --> 00:58:02.199
<v Speaker 5>like the like they had a Ramblert car, but the

887
00:58:02.320 --> 00:58:05.480
<v Speaker 5>world kind but it's probably all they could afford to

888
00:58:05.559 --> 00:58:08.800
<v Speaker 5>find because it seemed to be kind of low budget.

889
00:58:11.679 --> 00:58:16.119
<v Speaker 5>But the whole film takes place in the early eighties,

890
00:58:17.400 --> 00:58:22.159
<v Speaker 5>and basically the more of the story is that the

891
00:58:22.280 --> 00:58:28.440
<v Speaker 5>guy who's interested in the jfk assassination, well, he's really

892
00:58:28.559 --> 00:58:32.400
<v Speaker 5>screwed up in the head, and he has an emptiness

893
00:58:32.440 --> 00:58:36.039
<v Speaker 5>in his life that makes him do this, and he

894
00:58:36.199 --> 00:58:41.639
<v Speaker 5>supposedly tracks down the widow of the man with the umbrella,

895
00:58:41.840 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 5>even though he wasn't the real guy who it says

896
00:58:45.199 --> 00:58:49.039
<v Speaker 5>there he is in his own you people can't yell

897
00:58:49.119 --> 00:58:51.679
<v Speaker 5>at him no more. You drove him to the grave

898
00:58:52.079 --> 00:58:57.159
<v Speaker 5>and all this crap like that. Holy cow, I think

899
00:58:57.239 --> 00:59:02.199
<v Speaker 5>this movie had to have been produced Posner and his friends.

900
00:59:02.679 --> 00:59:05.800
<v Speaker 5>Check it out. I mean, if nothing else that's worth

901
00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:06.280
<v Speaker 5>a laugh.

902
00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, I think you're talking about the Arrow. Are you

903
00:59:10.039 --> 00:59:14.719
<v Speaker 1>talking about the Errol Morris film? Because I did watch No,

904
00:59:14.880 --> 00:59:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Because no shot.

905
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.559
<v Speaker 5>I keep trying to tell you, no, it's not that.

906
00:59:20.840 --> 00:59:26.400
<v Speaker 5>This is an hour and a half movie with actors

907
00:59:27.840 --> 00:59:33.239
<v Speaker 5>and a fake story. That is propaganda and the JFK researchers.

908
00:59:33.760 --> 00:59:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I believe you.

909
00:59:35.239 --> 00:59:41.079
<v Speaker 5>I said, nothing to do with the arrow. What's his nuts?

910
00:59:41.679 --> 00:59:44.119
<v Speaker 1>Okay? But he made a film I'm just saying, and

911
00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:49.079
<v Speaker 1>that that was the most popular I know.

912
00:59:48.800 --> 00:59:52.159
<v Speaker 5>I know it's a ten minute piece of junk he

913
00:59:52.320 --> 00:59:56.760
<v Speaker 5>made on the fiftieth cleven that that guy was the

914
00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:58.599
<v Speaker 5>Umbrella Man, which he was not.

915
01:00:00.199 --> 01:00:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, well let's see any idea what year it

916
01:00:08.480 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 1>is or anything, because there's a bunch of Umbrella Man

917
01:00:11.800 --> 01:00:14.960
<v Speaker 1>films on IMDb, and I don't know which ones which.

918
01:00:16.480 --> 01:00:23.000
<v Speaker 5>Wow, this one, I said, Chilly the Whip, I'll find

919
01:00:23.079 --> 01:00:29.920
<v Speaker 5>it again. It's this is like a dramatic movie. I mean,

920
01:00:30.599 --> 01:00:34.360
<v Speaker 5>is I assure you there's laughing factual in this film,

921
01:00:34.440 --> 01:00:35.239
<v Speaker 5>that's for sure.

922
01:00:35.559 --> 01:00:40.639
<v Speaker 1>Well there's one that stars Carter Roy, Rachel Caprani, and

923
01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:46.360
<v Speaker 1>Abby Cobb, which is written and directed by Michael Grasso

924
01:00:46.480 --> 01:00:49.760
<v Speaker 1>and also writing credit to Joe Grasso. Is that is

925
01:00:49.760 --> 01:00:50.280
<v Speaker 1>that the one?

926
01:00:50.320 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 2>Maybe?

927
01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:51.840
<v Speaker 1>Because that looks like a drama.

928
01:00:55.920 --> 01:00:58.800
<v Speaker 5>Kirby was the like for the roll for like the

929
01:00:58.880 --> 01:01:00.119
<v Speaker 5>early twelve ten.

930
01:01:00.320 --> 01:01:03.480
<v Speaker 1>Was twenty sixteen, it says, and it's in it's almost

931
01:01:03.480 --> 01:01:04.440
<v Speaker 1>two hours in length.

932
01:01:09.840 --> 01:01:14.480
<v Speaker 5>Well it could be. I'm just curious. Does a synopsis

933
01:01:14.519 --> 01:01:19.280
<v Speaker 5>say that a guy's daughter dies and then he turns

934
01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:24.920
<v Speaker 5>his grief into insanity and obsession? Kind of studying the

935
01:01:25.039 --> 01:01:26.360
<v Speaker 5>JFK as.

936
01:01:27.239 --> 01:01:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Kind of yeah, kind of, it says. While trying to

937
01:01:29.679 --> 01:01:33.480
<v Speaker 1>discover more about the killer of his son, Brennan becomes

938
01:01:33.519 --> 01:01:36.559
<v Speaker 1>fixated on the story of the Umbrella Man, a suspected

939
01:01:36.559 --> 01:01:40.159
<v Speaker 1>shooter in the in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.

940
01:01:41.480 --> 01:01:42.519
<v Speaker 1>Does that sound right.

941
01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:47.880
<v Speaker 5>Budo, that's the movie. That's the movie that there was

942
01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:55.119
<v Speaker 5>one wonderful propagand of piece. I would you be Pete.

943
01:01:55.159 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 5>Everyone who you know should watch it. Watch it for

944
01:01:59.719 --> 01:02:04.400
<v Speaker 5>begin I know it's painful, but I'll especially watch you

945
01:02:04.440 --> 01:02:09.079
<v Speaker 5>just see the ending, the moral tale at the ending.

946
01:02:09.639 --> 01:02:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it does say it streams on to be so

947
01:02:12.519 --> 01:02:14.480
<v Speaker 1>it's probably it's probably the right one.

948
01:02:17.880 --> 01:02:19.880
<v Speaker 5>Yeah. Well it's completely.

949
01:02:19.360 --> 01:02:22.800
<v Speaker 1>Free, Okay, cool. I will definitely check it out. I

950
01:02:22.840 --> 01:02:26.480
<v Speaker 1>need more free stuff to watch anyway. Uh, and I'll

951
01:02:26.480 --> 01:02:30.760
<v Speaker 1>tell you most JFK stuff At this point isn't even entertaining.

952
01:02:32.960 --> 01:02:35.239
<v Speaker 1>I gotta be honest with you. I mean, I'm wondering if.

953
01:02:35.400 --> 01:02:41.519
<v Speaker 5>This one I'll at least admit. I mean, there's a

954
01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:46.239
<v Speaker 5>few amusing parts. There's like story diff stories going on,

955
01:02:46.800 --> 01:02:49.000
<v Speaker 5>but at the end of the day, it is an

956
01:02:49.000 --> 01:02:54.480
<v Speaker 5>anti JFKA researcher propaganda piece. But I do like their

957
01:02:54.599 --> 01:02:59.960
<v Speaker 5>little shout bouts, like they're at one of the point

958
01:03:00.159 --> 01:03:03.079
<v Speaker 5>so well of the fields go a lot as they're

959
01:03:03.119 --> 01:03:10.039
<v Speaker 5>at a convention a JEFFK. Covets at one point they're

960
01:03:10.159 --> 01:03:14.400
<v Speaker 5>of course they're all displayed as crazy lords and stuff,

961
01:03:14.960 --> 01:03:18.360
<v Speaker 5>and you could hear this little guy, yo, hey, Mark

962
01:03:18.480 --> 01:03:22.880
<v Speaker 5>Lane's got girls, and we run it the whole second floor.

963
01:03:24.400 --> 01:03:24.800
<v Speaker 2>Wow.

964
01:03:26.159 --> 01:03:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well see that was the whole thing the FBI.

965
01:03:30.639 --> 01:03:33.159
<v Speaker 1>The FBI went after Mark Lane for a while. It

966
01:03:33.280 --> 01:03:37.199
<v Speaker 1>was kind of wild that Errol Morris thing I was

967
01:03:37.280 --> 01:03:39.719
<v Speaker 1>just looking up to because it comes up with this film.

968
01:03:40.039 --> 01:03:42.639
<v Speaker 1>It says on here it's only six minutes long. I'll

969
01:03:42.639 --> 01:03:44.880
<v Speaker 1>tell you, it's a long ass six minutes. And Josiah

970
01:03:44.960 --> 01:03:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Thompson's in that thing, which was kind of disappointing that

971
01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:55.519
<v Speaker 1>he participated in it, you know, But anyway.

972
01:03:55.719 --> 01:03:56.360
<v Speaker 6>That pick.

973
01:03:59.039 --> 01:04:03.840
<v Speaker 5>Ayon, he is that Errol Morris garbage. There's been studies

974
01:04:03.880 --> 01:04:07.760
<v Speaker 5>and that umbrella and it is not belong from the film.

975
01:04:07.960 --> 01:04:13.320
<v Speaker 5>So if they ride to that simple, why listen to

976
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:14.199
<v Speaker 5>them at all?

977
01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, fair enough, I've always said that, you know,

978
01:04:19.039 --> 01:04:25.519
<v Speaker 1>the Lewis Witt character was really strange and the supposed umbrella.

979
01:04:25.559 --> 01:04:27.719
<v Speaker 1>He might have thought that was the umbrella if he

980
01:04:27.840 --> 01:04:31.199
<v Speaker 1>was indeed the guy, But that's not the umbrella. I mean,

981
01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:32.199
<v Speaker 1>it's just that simple.

982
01:04:32.960 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

983
01:04:34.039 --> 01:04:36.599
<v Speaker 1>How it is. They got lost, everybody.

984
01:04:36.320 --> 01:04:41.920
<v Speaker 5>Nothing makes sense protesting Joe Kennedy because of his World

985
01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.920
<v Speaker 5>War Two stances. What are you talking about?

986
01:04:46.440 --> 01:04:49.679
<v Speaker 1>Right, He's trying to be Neville Chamberlain, who was known

987
01:04:49.760 --> 01:04:52.760
<v Speaker 1>by the umbrella, right, I mean, that's that's the story.

988
01:04:53.079 --> 01:04:56.960
<v Speaker 1>It's like, okay, he.

989
01:04:57.000 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 5>Says he is in Dallas, Texas l full sixty three,

990
01:05:02.119 --> 01:05:09.719
<v Speaker 5>this weird fresh freako or was protesting Duke Kennedy's and

991
01:05:09.920 --> 01:05:17.679
<v Speaker 5>cham Okay, Yeah, to Jack Kennedy after the fact.

992
01:05:17.599 --> 01:05:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Right, what do you talk to him about twenty five

993
01:05:21.079 --> 01:05:25.400
<v Speaker 1>years later? I'm gonna do that because you know, it's

994
01:05:25.400 --> 01:05:27.480
<v Speaker 1>almost like saying, you know what, I'm gonna go protest

995
01:05:27.519 --> 01:05:30.199
<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump So what I'm gonna do is burn a

996
01:05:30.239 --> 01:05:36.639
<v Speaker 1>Scottish flag, uh, just to aggravate him, disrespect his.

997
01:05:36.639 --> 01:05:42.159
<v Speaker 5>Mother up with what is that thing? He would not

998
01:05:42.199 --> 01:05:45.400
<v Speaker 5>have an Yeah, either.

999
01:05:45.239 --> 01:05:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Either his mother or his grandmother came from Scotland. So

1000
01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.079
<v Speaker 1>what I'm doing out there is I'm going to insult

1001
01:05:50.119 --> 01:05:54.599
<v Speaker 1>his ancestors at a protest for him. That that that

1002
01:05:54.639 --> 01:05:58.119
<v Speaker 1>that's about how much sense that Lewis Whitt story makes

1003
01:05:58.159 --> 01:06:02.599
<v Speaker 1>to me? Honest, I mean, do people do people made

1004
01:06:02.599 --> 01:06:03.039
<v Speaker 1>no sense?

1005
01:06:03.119 --> 01:06:08.119
<v Speaker 5>You never It's it's so full of crap, right good?

1006
01:06:08.440 --> 01:06:09.880
<v Speaker 1>No, No, I agree with you. I was going to

1007
01:06:09.920 --> 01:06:13.280
<v Speaker 1>say the same thing. It's so much nonsense, you know,

1008
01:06:13.800 --> 01:06:16.440
<v Speaker 1>do I think? But but also same time, no, it's

1009
01:06:16.480 --> 01:06:19.239
<v Speaker 1>not a gun either, I don't think so, you know.

1010
01:06:19.440 --> 01:06:21.320
<v Speaker 1>And I don't care what do you call it?

1011
01:06:21.480 --> 01:06:25.239
<v Speaker 5>No, no, no, that's the point. I don't believe that

1012
01:06:25.360 --> 01:06:28.079
<v Speaker 5>Long had a go No, but I don't think he

1013
01:06:28.360 --> 01:06:30.679
<v Speaker 5>was that d wi her whip.

1014
01:06:31.400 --> 01:06:34.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, it's a very strange deal. And and

1015
01:06:34.519 --> 01:06:37.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you I don't care what Cutler did. Interesting work.

1016
01:06:38.360 --> 01:06:41.599
<v Speaker 1>You know Cutler's little uh monographs You ever see those?

1017
01:06:45.440 --> 01:06:49.320
<v Speaker 5>Yuh? Yeah, you're so Cuddler, not Tucker correct.

1018
01:06:49.599 --> 01:06:57.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm saying Cutler right. Uh v PTE. You got

1019
01:06:57.159 --> 01:06:59.440
<v Speaker 1>some music going on? Is there a football game? What's the.

1020
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:03.440
<v Speaker 2>Talk about?

1021
01:07:03.760 --> 01:07:05.559
<v Speaker 1>Now? All of a sudden I heard music coming in.

1022
01:07:05.599 --> 01:07:06.079
<v Speaker 1>I thought it was.

1023
01:07:10.159 --> 01:07:13.679
<v Speaker 5>Weird music on me.

1024
01:07:14.519 --> 01:07:18.960
<v Speaker 1>Okay, ghost and maybe ghost in the machine. I'll tell

1025
01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.960
<v Speaker 1>you what. Let's see what time it is here and yeah,

1026
01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:25.880
<v Speaker 1>all right, look we'll take it on. Yeah, I'm gonna

1027
01:07:25.880 --> 01:07:28.480
<v Speaker 1>take a quick break here just so I can use

1028
01:07:28.519 --> 01:07:31.239
<v Speaker 1>the facility. So, Jimmy, so far, you're the only one

1029
01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:34.480
<v Speaker 1>to call in, So hang on. I'm gonna put you

1030
01:07:34.519 --> 01:07:37.519
<v Speaker 1>on hold and probably bring you right back on when

1031
01:07:37.559 --> 01:07:40.639
<v Speaker 1>we come back, unless somebody else jumps in, in which

1032
01:07:40.679 --> 01:07:44.119
<v Speaker 1>case maybe we'll put more than one person on and

1033
01:07:44.159 --> 01:07:48.559
<v Speaker 1>we'll continue this discussion. But I gotta say, you know,

1034
01:07:49.039 --> 01:07:51.239
<v Speaker 1>I can't get past what you and I opened with,

1035
01:07:52.719 --> 01:07:55.840
<v Speaker 1>because that's all I can keep thinking is all we're

1036
01:07:55.880 --> 01:08:01.760
<v Speaker 1>seeing is the symptoms of this sick and I gotta

1037
01:08:01.800 --> 01:08:03.719
<v Speaker 1>say I feel like that's what it is. I mean,

1038
01:08:03.760 --> 01:08:05.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to sound like, you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>these airy fairy jackasses, but there is, and I hate

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<v Speaker 1>to say it. Remember that crazy lady who ran for

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<v Speaker 1>president what was her name? She was like a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, a psychic and she was on Oprah and

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<v Speaker 1>what was her name? I can't remember, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh crap, yeah, I know, Jesus, hold on, I'll find it.

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<v Speaker 1>All I can think of is that even though she

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<v Speaker 1>was a kookie and you know, a plagiarizing self help

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<v Speaker 1>like she took like she's like, I'm a teacher on

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<v Speaker 1>like chicken soup for the soul or something stupid or

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<v Speaker 1>the secret or I don't know whatever, but she grabs

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<v Speaker 1>somebody else's idea and teaches that course. And then somehow

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<v Speaker 1>it's Mary Anne something or other. She becomes, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a guru, and she ran for president and she was

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<v Speaker 1>goofy and kookie all the way through. But I gotta

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<v Speaker 1>say this, when she said there is like a creeping

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<v Speaker 1>darkness over America, I can't get around. Look, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>broken clocks and such, they're right a couple times a day, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just saying even if it doesn't move, the

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<v Speaker 1>hands don't move at all, they will be right twice

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<v Speaker 1>a day. And maybe Marianne god whatever, Williamson, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>It, Williamson.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't disagree with her on that that there is something,

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<v Speaker 1>but can I identify it? I think I have, but

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I don't articulate it properly. There is something too,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not even saying I have an answer, but

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<v Speaker 1>there is something too. This universal principle of you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I find life sacred. You know, I'm a Christian or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm an ethical atheist or whatever whatever the hell it

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<v Speaker 1>is you say is your moral set of values is

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<v Speaker 1>irrelevant because you turn around you say that, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you say, you know, people should not be killed or

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<v Speaker 1>people should not be killed for this or that, and

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01:10:05.279 --> 01:10:08.479
<v Speaker 1>people should not violence should not And then guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>We can find a scenario where you're like, nope, kill

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<v Speaker 1>them all. Nope, it's fine that somebody killed that person.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not even close to bothered by that at all.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's one thing to be bothered by it because

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<v Speaker 1>you're not personally connected to it. And I get that

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<v Speaker 1>and admit that, and that's fine. You could say that

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<v Speaker 1>and say, look, I wasn't affected. I mean, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know Charlie Kirk. You know, he exists in internet land,

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<v Speaker 1>but I've got nothing in common with the guy. As

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<v Speaker 1>far as I know, I got no mutual connections, don't

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<v Speaker 1>care what his political beliefs were. But I don't hate

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<v Speaker 1>him and didn't seek his death and don't seek the

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<v Speaker 1>death of people even if I do hate him in this,

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01:10:51.600 --> 01:10:55.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, sort of circumstance. But there appears to be

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of liars out there who don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>admit that. They have a line where it's like, it's

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<v Speaker 1>okay for that person to be murdered because they are

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01:11:04.079 --> 01:11:06.880
<v Speaker 1>this type of person. It's okay for that person to

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<v Speaker 1>be murdered because they're in the wrong place. It's okay

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<v Speaker 1>for that type of person to be murdered because they're

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<v Speaker 1>you know, fill in the blank. They're a drug addict,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a Democrat, they're a communist, they're yeah. And the

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01:11:18.479 --> 01:11:21.319
<v Speaker 1>funny thing is that the anti communist and the anti

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01:11:21.399 --> 01:11:26.680
<v Speaker 1>fascist out there really does embrace the idea of killing

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01:11:26.720 --> 01:11:31.760
<v Speaker 1>your enemies if you give them the right enemies. So

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<v Speaker 1>the dishonesty is too much. And that's why I addressed

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to show you in show notes. I

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<v Speaker 1>tried to address Chris Cuomo every now and then because

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<v Speaker 1>he is such a meathead, embarrassing Italian who has no

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<v Speaker 1>moral principles whatsoever. But continues to be a talking you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a talking head. And now instead of being on CNN,

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01:11:49.760 --> 01:11:51.720
<v Speaker 1>he's on a Christian news network where he tells you

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<v Speaker 1>about his Christianity every time and equivocates and tells you

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, well, you know, he he says Christian

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<v Speaker 1>all the time. But I think it's Catholic. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Catholics are Christian.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, yeah, but no, it's kind of Mormons.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I'm sorry, I just they are, but they aren't. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they call themselves Christians. You know. Look, I'm just going

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<v Speaker 1>with the descriptor.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know they do. But well, when the head

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<v Speaker 2>of the church is supposed to be Christ, but the

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<v Speaker 2>head of the church is the pope, you know, Martin

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01:12:27.239 --> 01:12:29.119
<v Speaker 2>Luther thought that the pope was the inner Christ.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, you know, look, I don't necessarily disagree with

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent of what Martin Luther had to say,

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<v Speaker 1>but let's go right.

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<v Speaker 7>Oh, Chili dot com. Do you like history, real history

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<v Speaker 2>It's a conversation. You are.

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<v Speaker 1>First station.

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<v Speaker 2>Silence broken, broken Nile connection.

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<v Speaker 8>Demonstation elation to conversation, the effectation that's the conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Falls bray no sh oh, straight.

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<v Speaker 9>Conversation all strange jury of elation to conversation asovation called

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<v Speaker 9>first sateation.

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<v Speaker 2>Of that.

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<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, call it the truth about the JFA assassination.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, what do you want to know.

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<v Speaker 5>Any Baker's wild claim?

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<v Speaker 1>Oswald girlfriends he knew Ruby and Barry answer weapons. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>make me a wagon.

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<v Speaker 5>But okay, Oswald on the building and trying to prevent

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01:15:18.880 --> 01:15:21.000
<v Speaker 5>the murder of John Kennedy, Come on now, has a

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01:15:21.000 --> 01:15:23.960
<v Speaker 5>real effort on the DFA assassination claim.

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<v Speaker 1>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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<v Speaker 1>own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy

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<v Speaker 1>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

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01:15:34.680 --> 01:15:37.560
<v Speaker 1>and the known evidence in the case. To get at

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<v Speaker 1>well a different perspective, Let's say you can get Judithbary

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<v Speaker 1>Baker in her own words from the author himself, signed

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<v Speaker 1>if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at k

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<v Speaker 1>I as jfk at aol dot com. It's a fun

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<v Speaker 1>book and it actually dissects the many, many fantastic claims.

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<v Speaker 1>Judith very Baker in her own words.

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<v Speaker 5>Thank you for all the time, great information.

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<v Speaker 9>Completion to conversation, what the effect the designers broken.

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<v Speaker 5>Stalking revelation to conversation.

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<v Speaker 8>Stalking live school show, game effect revelation on the station abas.

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<v Speaker 10>Nation dot Com Radio Network's conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>The streets up trash Now call my lo just can't stop.

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<v Speaker 2>Come down and see man. Yeah, Ron funny funny.

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<v Speaker 11>Man packing up along before we go to air.

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<v Speaker 1>But hey, it's all there anyhow. Uh three one five

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<v Speaker 1>zero one six, last chance to join in on this.

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<v Speaker 1>We got Jimmy James on the line. My cost beat

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01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:33.399
<v Speaker 1>petes with me and so are you so if you're

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01:17:33.399 --> 01:17:36.039
<v Speaker 1>hearing the podcast later, hey, it is what it is,

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01:17:36.319 --> 01:17:40.840
<v Speaker 1>and I you know, I gotta be honest. Uh. Personal

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01:17:40.880 --> 01:17:44.600
<v Speaker 1>issues along with the condition of the world around me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of discouraging, depressing, et cetera. What can I

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01:17:48.720 --> 01:17:53.239
<v Speaker 1>say anyway, be pete anything on your mind before we

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01:17:53.600 --> 01:17:55.680
<v Speaker 1>put Jimmy James back on and see what else he's

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<v Speaker 1>got on his.

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<v Speaker 2>Well. You know, I've had a couple of battles going

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter with a few people, and all I can

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01:18:06.279 --> 01:18:10.680
<v Speaker 2>say is this, you know, Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk did

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01:18:11.359 --> 01:18:14.239
<v Speaker 2>what he felt was right. Whether you liked him, whether

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01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:16.640
<v Speaker 2>you liked what he said, or how he represented what

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01:18:16.720 --> 01:18:20.560
<v Speaker 2>he thought is beside the point. He lived his faith,

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01:18:21.439 --> 01:18:24.159
<v Speaker 2>he openly. And that's the one thing I don't get

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01:18:24.159 --> 01:18:26.600
<v Speaker 2>about this is they're saying such a hateful person. I've

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<v Speaker 2>watched countless videos Charlie Kirk debating people. He never attacks

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01:18:32.520 --> 01:18:35.439
<v Speaker 2>them personally. Now, I don't know everything that he's done,

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01:18:35.560 --> 01:18:37.319
<v Speaker 2>so I don't want to get bombarded, you know, with

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<v Speaker 2>people's sending me clips called where here he did this,

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01:18:39.640 --> 01:18:42.479
<v Speaker 2>and here he did that. You know, I've heard his rhetoric,

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<v Speaker 2>but he did put an open invitation out there that

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<v Speaker 2>he would debate anybody, and he debated. He didn't He

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01:18:51.960 --> 01:18:56.520
<v Speaker 2>didn't personally attack people. He might have some things to

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<v Speaker 2>say about groups that people don't agree with, and that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Nobody always agrees with everybody. But you can't fault the

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<v Speaker 2>man for trying to have conversations. I don't know, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's one thing that we lacked nowadays, is being able

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<v Speaker 2>to have a conversation. See would be able to have

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<v Speaker 2>a debate.

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<v Speaker 1>See, but I have to default to looking at warts

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<v Speaker 1>and all. Okay, so a lot of the clips, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was watching this guy before he was murdered, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because the clips changed up as soon as he was murdered, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And I corrected somebody else on Twitter, and they, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't give me a hard time because they were like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>it's another mass shooting. I said, no, it wasn't. This

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<v Speaker 1>is an assassination clearly. I mean we don't know who

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<v Speaker 1>did it or why, but it's clearly an assassination. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the guy was targeted for sure, and he's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one hit, one shot fired. I don't know how you

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<v Speaker 1>categorize that as anything other than I mean, if it

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<v Speaker 1>was meant to be a mass shooting, then it did

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<v Speaker 1>not go according to plan. The evidence would tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that it was intended to be an assassination. That's what

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<v Speaker 1>it was, but the guy would name call the guy

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<v Speaker 1>was abrasive. It wasn't always civil. Sometimes he was, sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't. People bring up, you know, the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he said, well, you know, there's going to be gun debts.

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<v Speaker 1>I accept that because it's acceptable for us to keep

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment. I don't know why it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be that we accept gun debts for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>the Second Amendment, because I don't see why we can't have,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, less of that and still keep our rights.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see how that's not possible except for the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that people insist on bringing the violence. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why they insist exactly. I got my theory, and

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01:20:53.560 --> 01:20:55.359
<v Speaker 1>I think my theory so earlier.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we all. I was raised in a in

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<v Speaker 2>a I don't know an atmosphere of guns. Everybody had them,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knew how to use them responsibly. They didn't. And

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know of a single soul that I could

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<v Speaker 2>put my finger on that I've ever met to think

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<v Speaker 2>that that guy doesn't need to have a gun. Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if the psyche of people has I'm

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<v Speaker 2>sure has changed over the years. I mean, I graduated

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<v Speaker 2>from high school in nineteen seventy eight. That was a

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<v Speaker 2>long time ago, almost fifty years ago. But something has

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<v Speaker 2>changed in the way people's minds work. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>is it? You know they say that what half the

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<v Speaker 2>population is on medications is that it? Is it environmental?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it? Their parents didn't give a shit, so they

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<v Speaker 2>don't It could be, you know, did it just progressively

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<v Speaker 2>get more and more that people just didn't give a damn,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it got worse and they didn't give more

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<v Speaker 2>of a damn, And now we've got a bunch of

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01:21:55.680 --> 01:21:59.319
<v Speaker 2>people running around out there that give absolutely no damn whatsoever.

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01:22:00.079 --> 01:22:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Think I think the narcissistem in the narcissism in this

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01:22:03.319 --> 01:22:06.960
<v Speaker 2>country has gone through the ruth. You can look at

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01:22:07.399 --> 01:22:11.119
<v Speaker 2>thousands of people on any of the platforms that you want,

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01:22:11.159 --> 01:22:14.319
<v Speaker 2>and it's all about me, for me, me, me, me,

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01:22:14.960 --> 01:22:15.279
<v Speaker 2>me me.

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<v Speaker 1>The primary concern always my opinion, not my knowledge, not

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01:22:20.720 --> 01:22:25.920
<v Speaker 1>my skill. My opinion is most important in all circumstances.

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<v Speaker 1>One thing is what you see out there. But the

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01:22:28.359 --> 01:22:32.359
<v Speaker 1>other problem here with this, with this discussion, it's not

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01:22:32.399 --> 01:22:36.520
<v Speaker 1>always one or the other. Sometimes it could be a

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01:22:36.560 --> 01:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>bunch of contributing factors, you know, and to me, that's

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01:22:40.760 --> 01:22:43.600
<v Speaker 1>the most logical answer. There's a bunch of contributing factors,

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01:22:43.600 --> 01:22:46.920
<v Speaker 1>but I really do feel as though the ignored key

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01:22:47.239 --> 01:22:53.560
<v Speaker 1>is this lack of value on human life. I mean,

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01:22:53.640 --> 01:22:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that's I know it sounds overgeneralized, but it's just I

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01:22:57.680 --> 01:23:03.800
<v Speaker 1>can't escape it. It's it's ultimately what justifies everything. And look,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go to, you know, clearly right wing violence. Okay,

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01:23:08.119 --> 01:23:10.600
<v Speaker 1>we could go to clearly right wing violence, we could

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01:23:10.600 --> 01:23:13.399
<v Speaker 1>go to clearly left wing violence. It's irrelevant because at

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<v Speaker 1>some point in that equation, the target of that violence

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01:23:18.079 --> 01:23:26.039
<v Speaker 1>is not worthy of, you know, enjoying the philosophy of

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01:23:26.079 --> 01:23:30.600
<v Speaker 1>non aggression. They're not worthy of enjoying. They're allowed to live,

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01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:34.079
<v Speaker 1>they're allowed to not be injured, they're allowed to not

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01:23:34.239 --> 01:23:39.039
<v Speaker 1>be attacked, and they deserve that just by virtue of

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01:23:39.079 --> 01:23:42.079
<v Speaker 1>their existence, unless and the only way I see them

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01:23:42.119 --> 01:23:46.399
<v Speaker 1>surrendering that is if they choose to attack others in

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01:23:46.439 --> 01:23:50.960
<v Speaker 1>an unprovoked way. That's the only way. And in that case,

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01:23:51.000 --> 01:23:55.800
<v Speaker 1>you don't collectively punish others for that, You handle that individual.

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01:23:57.039 --> 01:24:00.840
<v Speaker 1>But our society is now working on this. No, I

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01:24:00.880 --> 01:24:04.640
<v Speaker 1>blame the entire group. I blame the entire commonality. I

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01:24:04.720 --> 01:24:09.439
<v Speaker 1>blame their tribe and now vengeance will be ours, you know.

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01:24:11.279 --> 01:24:14.680
<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing that just I can't wrap my

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01:24:14.840 --> 01:24:18.680
<v Speaker 1>mind around that. And I've had plenty of desires to

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01:24:18.680 --> 01:24:21.239
<v Speaker 1>go back at people who have harmed me, and I've

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01:24:21.279 --> 01:24:26.560
<v Speaker 1>done it, but I target them, you know, and I

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01:24:26.640 --> 01:24:31.920
<v Speaker 1>really try to refrain from even doing that. But I'm

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01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:34.600
<v Speaker 1>not a perfect person, and not saying that I have

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01:24:34.680 --> 01:24:39.199
<v Speaker 1>the you know, moral high ground necessarily, but I do

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01:24:39.279 --> 01:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>believe I have the vision to see that there is

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01:24:43.000 --> 01:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>a common problem here. Anyway, Let's let Jimmy speak for

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01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:49.119
<v Speaker 1>a bit because we're almost out of time and Age

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01:24:49.119 --> 01:24:52.680
<v Speaker 1>of Transitions is coming up at ten pm, so let's see.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a few minutes left, and Jimmy, they're yours

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01:24:55.640 --> 01:24:59.279
<v Speaker 1>if you want them.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I was, uh what I said, I was gonna

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01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:12.520
<v Speaker 5>come out on the Kirk possessed less uh flexibly, Uh

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01:25:13.199 --> 01:25:28.319
<v Speaker 5>stuff up cubany Yeah, the Cuban situated, Well, it's big

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01:25:28.399 --> 01:25:31.000
<v Speaker 5>to me. I just don't think the cube the G

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<v Speaker 5>two is evolved.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I concur with you, it's not likely. Did Charlie

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01:25:40.000 --> 01:25:44.920
<v Speaker 1>Kirk thing though, did you, you know, instantly catch the

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01:25:45.039 --> 01:25:47.359
<v Speaker 1>video that went out there? I mean, there was so

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01:25:47.520 --> 01:25:52.920
<v Speaker 1>much video immediately and the stuff was ugly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yah.

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<v Speaker 5>It is this way. I I wish side would have

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<v Speaker 5>known more about the guy. I really didn't know much

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<v Speaker 5>at all about him at all, except I knew his

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01:26:14.880 --> 01:26:18.720
<v Speaker 5>I mean, in his face. I knew that South Park

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01:26:18.800 --> 01:26:22.039
<v Speaker 5>a few weeks ago Carbon was ray up to look

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01:26:22.159 --> 01:26:27.199
<v Speaker 5>like him, So I knew enough about him to know that. Yeah,

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01:26:27.880 --> 01:26:32.319
<v Speaker 5>and I knew he was doing things at college campusites.

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01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:34.520
<v Speaker 1>You know what I had.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, I had no idea how successful he apparently

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01:26:38.960 --> 01:26:45.119
<v Speaker 5>was being college. I mean, there's a lot of college

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01:26:45.640 --> 01:26:49.920
<v Speaker 5>kids and people in their twenties and thirties who really

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01:26:50.079 --> 01:26:56.640
<v Speaker 5>like that guy. And he's actually a civil rights leader,

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01:26:56.800 --> 01:27:01.319
<v Speaker 5>is what he is. He mentioned MLK earlier. That'd be

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01:27:01.399 --> 01:27:06.079
<v Speaker 5>a good analogy. But from the things I'm reading the

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01:27:06.119 --> 01:27:10.760
<v Speaker 5>rule now, once did he yell at anyone yet not

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01:27:10.960 --> 01:27:16.520
<v Speaker 5>once did he call people names. And uh, he was

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01:27:17.319 --> 01:27:26.399
<v Speaker 5>a self proclaimed Christian, h evangelical, and he did he

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01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:30.359
<v Speaker 5>did just that. He was always spreading the Gospel of

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01:27:30.399 --> 01:27:38.279
<v Speaker 5>his Savior. And unlike Martin Luther King, I like uh,

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01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:46.960
<v Speaker 5>doctor Jesse Jackson, unlike the guy at MSNBC these days,

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01:27:47.960 --> 01:27:52.239
<v Speaker 5>this man clearly actually lived the life of a Christian.

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01:27:53.199 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 5>He lived a good life, he lived what he preached. Well,

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01:27:58.439 --> 01:28:02.239
<v Speaker 5>then I found that interesting. Yeah, and so I just

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01:28:02.319 --> 01:28:06.119
<v Speaker 5>wanted to say that even though I really didn't know

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01:28:06.319 --> 01:28:10.840
<v Speaker 5>much about him. I mean, I can see it saving

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01:28:10.840 --> 01:28:14.119
<v Speaker 5>a lot of people. It's some big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, you know what's interesting to me is that

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01:28:17.880 --> 01:28:20.840
<v Speaker 1>there is a whole industry of people that are doing

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01:28:21.439 --> 01:28:25.720
<v Speaker 1>this thing that he was doing, and there are right

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01:28:25.720 --> 01:28:29.239
<v Speaker 1>wingers and there are a bunch of left wingers doing

1329
01:28:29.279 --> 01:28:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the same thing actually, and it's it's fascinating. South Park

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01:28:34.760 --> 01:28:37.880
<v Speaker 1>picking on him though he saw it and actually thought

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01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:43.239
<v Speaker 1>it was funny. You know, he did that that that's

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01:28:43.239 --> 01:28:45.600
<v Speaker 1>his published commentary on it. He thought it was funny

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01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:48.479
<v Speaker 1>and he thought actually he said something like, yeah, they

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01:28:48.560 --> 01:28:51.520
<v Speaker 1>kind of nailed it in a comical way. What I

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01:28:51.600 --> 01:28:56.920
<v Speaker 1>do I'm paraphrasing here, But you know, to his credit,

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01:28:58.520 --> 01:29:00.439
<v Speaker 1>I don't think the people that are attack in south

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01:29:00.479 --> 01:29:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Park and trying to blame south Park for his assassination

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01:29:04.199 --> 01:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>or being rational or even attempting to live up to

1339
01:29:09.640 --> 01:29:19.039
<v Speaker 1>this guy. Seriously, wait, why let's say.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean it was cute if they were to make

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01:29:25.079 --> 01:29:27.359
<v Speaker 5>cart went up to be me and run me into

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01:29:27.399 --> 01:29:27.840
<v Speaker 5>the ground.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, I would take any mod If somebody decided to

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01:29:33.880 --> 01:29:36.239
<v Speaker 1>mock me on South Park, I'd be happy as hell.

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01:29:37.039 --> 01:29:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Uh you know, And I don't care how they do it,

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01:29:42.039 --> 01:29:42.279
<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I just got a quick note here. You mentioned the

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01:29:45.359 --> 01:29:48.159
<v Speaker 2>videos that were out there, and I happen to catch

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01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:54.119
<v Speaker 2>two the other night on UH on X. Regardless of

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01:29:54.159 --> 01:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>what they say, I think Charlie Clark was dead when

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01:29:58.680 --> 01:30:02.159
<v Speaker 2>he hit the ground. Just looking at the video, there's

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01:30:02.199 --> 01:30:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a slow motion that someone zoomed in. It was more

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01:30:04.760 --> 01:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of a frontal shot with the camera and they zoomed

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01:30:07.720 --> 01:30:11.039
<v Speaker 2>in and you can actually see his T shirt. They

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01:30:11.159 --> 01:30:14.199
<v Speaker 2>slowed it down. You can almost frame by frame you

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01:30:14.239 --> 01:30:17.119
<v Speaker 2>can watch his T shirt move up where the bullet

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01:30:17.199 --> 01:30:22.760
<v Speaker 2>hit him in the chest and he was wearing a vest.

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01:30:23.239 --> 01:30:29.560
<v Speaker 2>It hit and ricocheted up into his neck. And based

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01:30:29.600 --> 01:30:32.840
<v Speaker 2>on the funny thing was I was on the net

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01:30:33.039 --> 01:30:36.560
<v Speaker 2>and somebody I saw a headline that said Charlie Kirk

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01:30:36.600 --> 01:30:42.560
<v Speaker 2>shooting at Utah University. So boom, I go on Twitter

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01:30:43.119 --> 01:30:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and I see it happen, and I thought, and the

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01:30:46.000 --> 01:30:50.079
<v Speaker 2>headline was, you know, critical condition. When I saw that shot,

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01:30:50.960 --> 01:30:53.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought, there's no way in hell he was dead.

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01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:57.560
<v Speaker 2>What was the maneuver that they the movement associated when

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01:30:57.640 --> 01:31:02.680
<v Speaker 2>Kennedy was shot, suppose through the throat and the reflexive

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01:31:02.720 --> 01:31:05.600
<v Speaker 2>active action that they talked about, his arms coming up,

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01:31:05.640 --> 01:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>his elbows coming up.

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<v Speaker 1>That hole. Yeah, that's that that thing that they proved

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01:31:11.720 --> 01:31:13.359
<v Speaker 1>by shooting the goat in the head. That deal.

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<v Speaker 2>If you watched that video of Charlie Kirk, you see

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01:31:17.920 --> 01:31:21.880
<v Speaker 2>exactly what they were talking about. He got hit. It

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01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:26.000
<v Speaker 2>hit him in the neck. He's bleeding like somebody cut

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01:31:26.000 --> 01:31:29.640
<v Speaker 2>his throat. His arms go up part way, he could

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01:31:29.800 --> 01:31:33.439
<v Speaker 2>even get to grab his throat, and he was falling

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01:31:33.479 --> 01:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>over out of the chair. And I'll be curious to

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01:31:35.840 --> 01:31:38.399
<v Speaker 2>see what the autopsy turns up. I'm wondering if it

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01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:40.600
<v Speaker 2>did ricochet but also went through his fine.

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01:31:40.760 --> 01:31:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know about the ricochet, but the wound

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01:31:45.680 --> 01:31:51.199
<v Speaker 1>to his neck is clear and he exsanguinates quickly.

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01:31:53.039 --> 01:31:55.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh he was, That's what I'm saying. I think he

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01:31:55.199 --> 01:31:56.520
<v Speaker 2>was dead when he hit the ground.

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01:31:57.640 --> 01:32:00.319
<v Speaker 1>See, I don't know quick He may have survived a

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01:32:00.359 --> 01:32:02.439
<v Speaker 1>little beyond that, but not much.

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01:32:02.640 --> 01:32:06.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, there was it was couldn't have been seconds

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01:32:06.560 --> 01:32:08.680
<v Speaker 2>that hit And when you look at the amount of

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01:32:08.680 --> 01:32:11.479
<v Speaker 2>blood coming out when he falls over. There's another shot

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01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:14.960
<v Speaker 2>from the side that shows that I was a medic

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01:32:15.039 --> 01:32:17.680
<v Speaker 2>in the army. You don't survive that shot. I don't

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01:32:17.680 --> 01:32:22.000
<v Speaker 2>care how you pack somebody's neck wound. He's already bled out. Yeah,

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01:32:22.079 --> 01:32:23.880
<v Speaker 2>you bled out when he hit the ground.

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01:32:24.119 --> 01:32:27.520
<v Speaker 1>You can almost not even if you're right there, you

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01:32:27.600 --> 01:32:32.239
<v Speaker 1>can't react quickly enough to stop the speed of that spurt.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the truth.

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01:32:34.119 --> 01:32:36.119
<v Speaker 2>I think it not only got his juggler vein, but

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01:32:36.159 --> 01:32:43.760
<v Speaker 2>it got his the He got his artery too. Yeah,

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01:32:44.560 --> 01:32:46.560
<v Speaker 2>he got his vein and the artery. It hit both

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01:32:46.600 --> 01:32:46.920
<v Speaker 2>of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, I agree with you, and I think it took

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01:32:50.239 --> 01:32:53.119
<v Speaker 1>a chunk right out and it was going to be

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01:32:53.359 --> 01:33:00.399
<v Speaker 1>impossible to stop enough of that bleeding in time.

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01:33:02.039 --> 01:33:03.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, this is something that's come out since I was

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01:33:03.840 --> 01:33:05.920
<v Speaker 2>in these ballistic packs that they have now you can

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01:33:05.960 --> 01:33:09.079
<v Speaker 2>take those things there. It's a ballistic packs full of jail,

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01:33:09.960 --> 01:33:12.319
<v Speaker 2>and you shove it in a mood and it immediately

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01:33:12.319 --> 01:33:16.560
<v Speaker 2>starts coagulating everything. There's no way even with a truckload

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01:33:16.600 --> 01:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of those. Like I said, when he hit the ground,

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01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:23.119
<v Speaker 2>he was gone and there's nothing you could have done

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01:33:23.279 --> 01:33:24.399
<v Speaker 2>to save him.

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01:33:24.840 --> 01:33:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, you really don't think so you can bleed

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01:33:27.640 --> 01:33:30.479
<v Speaker 1>to death in a handful of seconds with that rate

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01:33:31.399 --> 01:33:35.800
<v Speaker 1>of you know, with that rate of him gushing like

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01:33:35.840 --> 01:33:38.159
<v Speaker 1>he was. I mean, I hate to say it, but

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01:33:38.399 --> 01:33:39.720
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're looking at there.

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<v Speaker 2>As soon as I saw it, and then I immediately

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01:33:44.479 --> 01:33:47.720
<v Speaker 2>do a search and google the first thing. No, it

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01:33:47.760 --> 01:33:50.159
<v Speaker 2>was the second listing said that he had already died,

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01:33:50.239 --> 01:33:51.800
<v Speaker 2>and I thought, well, of course, there ain't no damn

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01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:54.479
<v Speaker 2>wayam people thinking he can make it through that will?

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01:33:56.520 --> 01:33:56.560
<v Speaker 1>No?

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01:33:57.119 --> 01:33:57.279
<v Speaker 5>Right?

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01:33:57.760 --> 01:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>No, I thought, there's no way he's saved that. Even

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01:34:00.640 --> 01:34:02.520
<v Speaker 1>though they were like, oh, pray for them and all that,

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01:34:02.760 --> 01:34:08.840
<v Speaker 1>I was like, no, that's it's already done. I agree

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01:34:08.840 --> 01:34:11.119
<v Speaker 1>with you there, but I didn't understand that part of

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01:34:11.119 --> 01:34:14.840
<v Speaker 1>it either, to be honest with you. But anyway, look,

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01:34:14.920 --> 01:34:16.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't understand a lot of things in the world,

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01:34:16.960 --> 01:34:20.279
<v Speaker 1>especially how fast time flies. So we're all done for

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01:34:20.319 --> 01:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>this week, but we'll do it again next week. I

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01:34:23.000 --> 01:34:25.199
<v Speaker 1>might just start the call in show early next week.

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01:34:25.479 --> 01:34:27.119
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that would be easier. And that way you can

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01:34:27.159 --> 01:34:31.439
<v Speaker 1>just jump on with me, you know, And that way,

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01:34:31.439 --> 01:34:32.880
<v Speaker 1>if I want to do a little pre news, you

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01:34:32.960 --> 01:34:35.119
<v Speaker 1>just jump on at eight o'clock and boom, we roll.

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01:34:35.600 --> 01:34:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll do that next week. I want to thank

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01:34:38.359 --> 01:34:40.319
<v Speaker 1>Jimmy for calling in. I want to thank you guys

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01:34:40.319 --> 01:34:44.079
<v Speaker 1>for listening, and obviously, you know, if you're catching the podcast,

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01:34:44.159 --> 01:34:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you. And you know, look, we need to

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01:34:49.720 --> 01:34:54.199
<v Speaker 1>take better care of each other. We need to not

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01:34:54.359 --> 01:34:58.119
<v Speaker 1>seek to have enemies that are just worthy of having

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01:34:58.920 --> 01:35:03.479
<v Speaker 1>their lives snatched from them. And the fact that a

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01:35:03.479 --> 01:35:06.880
<v Speaker 1>young man bleeds out in five seconds because somebody decided

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01:35:06.920 --> 01:35:12.199
<v Speaker 1>to shoot him, no, I don't support that, even if

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01:35:12.239 --> 01:35:15.680
<v Speaker 1>I have zero zero support for the guy's political view,

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01:35:16.000 --> 01:35:18.479
<v Speaker 1>which I didn't. I actually agreed with a couple of

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01:35:18.479 --> 01:35:21.960
<v Speaker 1>things he had to say. But you know, was he

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01:35:22.039 --> 01:35:25.119
<v Speaker 1>a saint. I hate it when people are risen up

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<v Speaker 1>as you know, these posthumous saints, I really do, because

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<v Speaker 1>it never speaks to their true character. But this guy

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<v Speaker 1>is also not a one dimensional figure. And you know, again,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that he took you know, the South Park

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<v Speaker 1>mocking without screaming that you know, those liberals need to

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<v Speaker 1>be gotten rid of or shut down, tells you something. Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>I leave it at that. I leave it to your judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>And unfortunately I'm not in control of the world. So Anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>DPE thanks again, and like I said, Aaron Franz is

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<v Speaker 1>coming up next. So Eli, all of you are the

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<v Speaker 1>effect