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Speaker 1: It seems like things are out of whack again, even
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Speaker 1: things shifting around as they do. Uh anyhow? Yeah, So
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Speaker 1: b Pete, what's on your mind this week? Hold?
Speaker 2: No, it's been kind of a crappy week. I'll tell
Speaker 2: you one thing after the just the past two days,
Speaker 2: I'm tired of people.
Speaker 3: I'm tired of idiots. I'm tired of educated ass hats.
Speaker 3: I'm tired of political pundits. I'm just getting really tired
Speaker 3: when people.
Speaker 2: It's I don't know, I don't understand what has gripped
Speaker 2: this nation, well world really that the things that happen happen.
Speaker 2: I can understand the happening, but I do not understand
Speaker 2: the reactions to it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it depends.
Speaker 2: I think mankind is doomed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: See, that's what I was trying to give a positive
Speaker 1: spin to during that time. I was talking, and I
Speaker 1: took too much time explaining why it is. I feel
Speaker 1: like crap every September eleventh. But you know, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's the other part of that yesterday where it was like,
Speaker 1: is there even a point in talking or trying to
Speaker 1: be rational or seeking a solution. Nobody's hearing it, nobody
Speaker 1: really cares, nobody wants to address what the issue is.
Speaker 1: And it's not those people then, but particular side good.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of it. You know, it used
Speaker 2: to be people would talk past each other, and if
Speaker 2: they would just stop for five seconds and set an
Speaker 2: initial premise. Then they can continue to have a conversation.
Speaker 2: May not be constructive, but at least they'd be able
Speaker 2: to discuss it. But people are not talking past each
Speaker 2: other anymore. People are going out of their way to
Speaker 2: be just as disgusting as they possibly can. And you know,
Speaker 2: a long time ago, you used to put it down
Speaker 2: to the anonymity of the internet. Well there's not a
Speaker 2: lot of anonymity on the internet anymore. If you really
Speaker 2: want to track somebody down, you know, there are ways
Speaker 2: to do it. I mean, look at what we've seen
Speaker 2: with people. What about the Karen at the baseball game,
Speaker 2: you know, Philly's Karen and the baseball They found out
Speaker 2: who the hell she was in just a couple of days.
Speaker 2: It didn't take long. It just people now are going
Speaker 2: directly at each other, trying to be just as disgusting
Speaker 2: and repugnant as they can. And one example is two
Speaker 2: weeks ago we had a school shooting. Where was it
Speaker 2: in Minnesota? I think?
Speaker 1: Well, which one the same day as Charlie Kirk in Colorado?
Speaker 2: You know, no, no, no, this was two weeks ago.
Speaker 2: You know, we had the one in Minnesota. The Catholic
Speaker 2: school because the head of the independent school systems in
Speaker 2: Minnesota that you know, covers Catholic schools and charter schools
Speaker 2: and other private schools and other religious schools. He sent
Speaker 2: a letter to wall saying, hey, you know, our security
Speaker 2: really needs to be looked at, not just this school
Speaker 2: but all of the independent schools. Well, Waltz is blued off,
Speaker 2: and then they have a shooting. Okay, but after that,
Speaker 2: you have this episode on the train in Charlotte that
Speaker 2: we didn't know happened until somebody got the video from
Speaker 2: the transit system released through an FIA, and then the
Speaker 2: internet takes off. Individual of this color kills a Ukrainian
Speaker 2: refugee of another color, and that's what started it.
Speaker 4: Imediately after that, you have Charlie Kirk. And while the
Speaker 4: thing with Charlie Kirk was going on, you had a
Speaker 4: school shooting in Colorado. The past two days, I have
Speaker 4: seen more inhumanity to man from man. Man's inhumanity to
Speaker 4: man displayed on every social media platform.
Speaker 2: You see it in the news, you see it all
Speaker 2: these talk programs, you see it from the talking heads. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I'm just wondering what it's going to take for
Speaker 2: somebody to finally sit down and say that's enough, that
Speaker 2: we've had our fill. I mean, I don't mind people coming.
Speaker 2: And one thing that really bothered me yesterday and most
Speaker 2: of my replies on Twitter were to things that where
Speaker 2: I basically had to tell people, look, you can disagree
Speaker 2: with somebody, but you don't have to lie about them.
Speaker 2: You know, what happened happened. We all saw what happened.
Speaker 2: It was right there, blatantly in our face on the news.
Speaker 2: What happened to Charlie Kirk, the videotape from the train
Speaker 2: incident in Charlotte, It was there, we saw it. Unfortunately,
Speaker 2: we don't have anything of the school shooting, just a
Speaker 2: few pictures.
Speaker 1: Well not yet but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not yet. They'll eventually come out. But what we
Speaker 2: saw to set the flash point. You know, I thought
Speaker 2: we had gotten beyond race in this country. Oh no, No,
Speaker 2: to a point to a point where well, you know,
Speaker 2: and I was just looking at have you ever seen
Speaker 2: footage of Blind Faith playing live? Yeah, there's a concert
Speaker 2: where they're playing Can't Find My Way Home and you
Speaker 2: look at the audience. It's a bunch of fucking hippies
Speaker 2: and they're all you know, they're all buzzed out, having
Speaker 2: a good time getting along. And you see blacks and
Speaker 2: whites and Hispanics and every color of the rainbow sitting
Speaker 2: there in that damn audience, and they're all getting along.
Speaker 2: And I remember back in the late sixties, this was
Speaker 2: a little before your time, you know, the peace love
Speaker 2: movement and how we're going to get along. You know,
Speaker 2: Vietnam was going on hot and heavy then, and we
Speaker 2: had protests, and we had the weathermen throwing bombs around,
Speaker 2: and we had people taking shots at one another, kind
Speaker 2: of like it is now. But there was an underlying
Speaker 2: movement of that guy is my brother. I look out
Speaker 2: for him, he looks out for me.
Speaker 1: Yeap.
Speaker 2: That is gone well. And the thing that bothers me.
Speaker 2: But what bothers me is the most those motherfuckers protesting
Speaker 2: in the streets and raising Holy hell and doing what
Speaker 2: they can do are now leading this country. And look
Speaker 2: at what they have brought us. Look at to the
Speaker 2: point they have gotten us as a nation. Well, it's
Speaker 2: the biggest failure cultural failure in the world. Say what
Speaker 2: you want. The United States is a field cultural experiment
Speaker 2: right now. And they I don't know what they can
Speaker 2: do to correct it. Yeah, did you take the late
Speaker 2: sixties and early seventies to now fifty years? It's amazing
Speaker 2: how much damage you can do in fifty years.
Speaker 1: It sure is. And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: I'm putting on the shoulders of these ass hats we
Speaker 2: have in Washington, these leaders, these supposed larned individuals. I
Speaker 2: have never seen more educated idiots than I have in
Speaker 2: the past two days.
Speaker 1: I got you. But you know in Tampa, Florida. In Tampa,
Speaker 1: Florida on nine to eleven, also one dead, five injured
Speaker 1: in a mass shooting. Juvenile victim seventeen year old killed,
Speaker 1: gunman unknown. At this point in time, you know how
Speaker 1: many mass shootings there have been in this country this year?
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know. It depends on how you count them.
Speaker 2: Some places that they have the official stats, it's got
Speaker 2: to be more than four people. Okay, Yes, it's gotta
Speaker 2: be more than four people, and one of them has
Speaker 2: to be left handed. Oh cha.
Speaker 3: Well, when you're shooting too many day people, even if
Speaker 3: it's a one on one incounter where a guy gets
Speaker 3: mugged an alley, we've gotten two violent resignation.
Speaker 1: Oh sure, I mean, look, I don't think anybody can realistically,
Speaker 1: in real time even track how many people are just
Speaker 1: getting shot, you know in the one on ones or
Speaker 1: family disputes and all that. I mean, those stats, you
Speaker 1: got to collect them, you know, a year later, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you, because investigations go on, they find
Speaker 1: out this and that. Some people don't go to the hospital,
Speaker 1: some people do go to the hospital. Things aren't reported
Speaker 1: to law enforcement, et cetera, et cetera. But from public reports, right,
Speaker 1: the mass Shooting Tracker shows us that we got three
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty seven mass shootings in twenty twenty five
Speaker 1: in this country alone. Right, and that's where, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: got more than four people involved and a gun and
Speaker 1: a crowd. That that that's the criteria. Okay, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: where we're at. And it's not the gun. Okay. I
Speaker 1: wonder how many of those in Chicago, Uh, not a lot. See,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. The go to with Chicago is almost pointless.
Speaker 1: Look Tampa, Florida, Oakland, California, San Francisco, California. Look the
Speaker 1: liberal state where the guns are controlled, Santa Anna, California, Memphis, Tennessee.
Speaker 1: On the seventh right, Yeah, I'm just going down the
Speaker 1: list in order going backwards right now, you know you
Speaker 1: want me to.
Speaker 2: I just wondering where they.
Speaker 1: Well, I could go to another place and probably get
Speaker 1: the breakdown by state if you like. But you know
Speaker 1: what what is We could break this down eighty different ways.
Speaker 1: The thing is this one thing we should be able
Speaker 1: to agree upon is that this is an inordinate amount
Speaker 1: of violence that is occurring in our street. It's just
Speaker 1: our streets in general, that's all there is to it.
Speaker 1: And the red state, blue state. You can break it
Speaker 1: down different ways. You know who succeeded at making this
Speaker 1: not happen or making it again? It's not about necessary. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have more guns than we have people in this country.
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. I know what the anti gun people say,
Speaker 1: but it's not the guns in places where you have
Speaker 1: people that you know, by percentage, there's nearly as many
Speaker 1: guns as there is, you know, per person in a
Speaker 1: country where there's way less people. Yeah, this doesn't happen.
Speaker 1: You know, people want to say it's a worldwide issue. Indeed,
Speaker 1: it is a worldwide issue, but the fact that we're
Speaker 1: so ready to shoot each other here in America is
Speaker 1: kind of an American issue. I mean, we shoot more
Speaker 1: beauty in a regular day than they do in war zone.
Speaker 2: Think you got taking consideration though, these other countries that,
Speaker 2: especially in Europe, and I saw this living over there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: a lot of European countries they do have gun ownership
Speaker 2: and instead of Switzerland's one of the highest gun ownerships
Speaker 2: per captain in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They don't have the violence. They don't have the violence
Speaker 2: that we have over here because they have policing. They
Speaker 2: actually go out and police, They actually go out and
Speaker 2: put people in jail for committing crimes. They don't take
Speaker 2: a repeat offender that's you know, knocked off three bodegas
Speaker 2: and a fucking taxi stand and turn them right back
Speaker 2: out onto the street. I've never did. That's what I
Speaker 2: don't understand. Everybody talks about, well we have a problem. Well,
Speaker 2: why are we paying a bunch of eggheaded bastards to
Speaker 2: sit in Washington and make a bunch of goddamn laws
Speaker 2: and not enforce them. Why are we electing people to
Speaker 2: city councils and allowing people to be put on police
Speaker 2: forces as chiefs and administrators that aren't following the fucking laws.
Speaker 2: We are a lawless nation compared to a lot of
Speaker 2: other ones. So do you want to look at the
Speaker 2: gun crime. We got a bunch of crazy people and
Speaker 2: we don't enforce our damn uh laws. And what are
Speaker 2: you going to get as a results? And then throw
Speaker 2: in the fact that we own half the guns in
Speaker 2: the world, and what do you think the result's going
Speaker 2: to be? Well, here's what you can't explain that to people.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute. This woman with a degree sets there
Speaker 2: and makes the comment guns have more rights than women.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting here thinking that is probably the most
Speaker 2: stupid thing I have seen online in all of this,
Speaker 2: guns have more rights than women. The guns don't have
Speaker 2: any damn rights people do. In fact, women have a
Speaker 2: right to own a gun. It's they play this this,
Speaker 2: Oh well, okay, we can't have abortions, so you shouldn't
Speaker 2: be able to have guns. And where the hell does
Speaker 2: this stuff come from?
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm getting confused, right, Okay, I'm getting I'm getting
Speaker 1: confused because look, before that talking point about nobody's enforcing
Speaker 1: the laws, uh, you know, came out, we had this
Speaker 1: problem then, so you know, in places that are not
Speaker 1: controlled by the people, that are not enforcing the laws.
Speaker 1: The same thing is happening anyway, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: The the murders that are being recorded in this country,
Speaker 1: just murders in general, outside of the guns, because we're
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the violence, because again, it's
Speaker 1: not the gun that's the issue. And you know, the
Speaker 1: right to an abortion is a separate argument from the
Speaker 1: gun in my mind. But then again, you know people
Speaker 1: would say, nope, that's violence too. Okay, you're a pro
Speaker 1: life person and you think that's the way it is,
Speaker 1: and you know what, you're winning that argument right now. Fine,
Speaker 1: But we've seen regime change here. We've seen the majority
Speaker 1: controlled by the alleged left, we've seen the majority controlled
Speaker 1: by the alleged conservatives. And just like I've said before
Speaker 1: about a lot of problems, when you see that no
Speaker 1: matter who's in charge, the problem keeps growing, kind of
Speaker 1: tells you something else about how the system is wrong
Speaker 1: and there's something else happening that is not able to
Speaker 1: be controlled by the politicians or anybody else. You know,
Speaker 1: I tried to tell you about calling the police here
Speaker 1: in Macon, Georgia. Well let me just tell you about
Speaker 1: locally real quick, because I don't know how much violence
Speaker 1: you have in your town. But every day, just about
Speaker 1: I get in a little you know, news alert about
Speaker 1: shootings in this city. Okay, police response is like nothing.
Speaker 1: They don't show up for a long period of time.
Speaker 1: There's no instant reaction, there's hardly any presence any time.
Speaker 1: There's nobody who knows people in the neighborhood, none of
Speaker 1: you know, policing is not just punishment. But when people
Speaker 1: used to do policing, they participated in the neighborhood. They
Speaker 1: knew who was who, they knew where things were, they
Speaker 1: knew where things were going on because they were engaged
Speaker 1: with the community. Right, Well, there's that issue. And I'm
Speaker 1: in a red state. Okay, I'm in a red state,
Speaker 1: which should be law and order. And these guys scream
Speaker 1: about law and order. But whether they're screaming about law
Speaker 1: and order or they're screaming about you know, try and
Speaker 1: have sympathy for people. And you know, well, you know,
Speaker 1: you can't punish everybody, or they're being stupid in either direction.
Speaker 1: They're not solving this, they're not coming up with an answer.
Speaker 1: And it's not about, you know, just more cops, because
Speaker 1: even when you have more cops, it reduces certain things. Yes,
Speaker 1: it reduces you know, blatant public displays of certain things
Speaker 1: like I don't I okay, just to step back and
Speaker 1: not to try and go after anybody's particular political proclivity.
Speaker 1: But I find it really strange that Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: Is the epicenter that they had to deploy the National
Speaker 1: Guard to for this reason. Alone, in the area where
Speaker 1: these people are living and mostly where you know, the
Speaker 1: politicians are and everything else, there is overlap of all
Speaker 1: sorts of policing agencies. I mean constant presence. I don't
Speaker 1: think you could go out to lunch or go go
Speaker 1: buy a pack of cigarettes in DC and not see
Speaker 1: either plane closed or uniformed cops armed and hanging around.
Speaker 1: They're everywhere. You got DC police, you know, the regular
Speaker 1: sort of you know, policing agency. You got your Capitol Police.
Speaker 1: You got police that are assigned and literal police forces
Speaker 1: for particular areas, buildings. You have Secret Service deployed for
Speaker 1: certain politics in certain sensitive areas. Right, I mean there
Speaker 1: is security in police all over the government areas in DC. Okay,
Speaker 1: so all of the excessive violence is outside of those areas.
Speaker 1: Either that or you have a bunch of Keystone cops
Speaker 1: banging into each other who were existing. I mean, take
Speaker 1: a look at the coverage of law enforcement in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. Beforehand, or even after they sent the National
Speaker 1: Guard there, which I've seen National Guard doing landscaping and
Speaker 1: taken out garbage. I don't see them actually engaged in
Speaker 1: securing things. Maybe I'm not seeing the right stuff, but
Speaker 1: weird that a place like that that has redundant overlaps
Speaker 1: of coverage and law enforcement, and you're going to tell
Speaker 1: me that it was a nightmare scenario. And yet it
Speaker 1: probably was in certain areas. But see, here's the thing.
Speaker 1: In the worst of the worst areas, the police are
Speaker 1: not deployed, they're not engaged in the community.
Speaker 2: The funny thing about that, though, is you see all
Speaker 2: these protests about the Guard in DC, and you see
Speaker 2: a bunch of white upper class individuals who have the
Speaker 2: time to get out there and protest about the Guard.
Speaker 2: But when you hear the interviews of people that live
Speaker 2: in those areas, and the mayor herself comes out and says,
Speaker 2: I'm glad they're here, we see a difference. I can
Speaker 2: walk down the street now you know, Chucky Schumer walking
Speaker 2: outside of the damn Capitol will block away with his
Speaker 2: security detail. Oh it's great you walk around anywhere out here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: if you're Chucky Schumer with a goddamn security detail. Well,
Speaker 2: of course, these people living in this place, when you
Speaker 2: listen to them, they're saying, hey, I'm glad to see it.
Speaker 2: It's about damn time somebody did something.
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's not just a security what.
Speaker 2: Kills me about this.
Speaker 1: It's not just his security detail though, because believe me,
Speaker 1: there is a whole lot of way cleared, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, the the the pads that you got
Speaker 1: to walk on, you know, he want to clear a trail,
Speaker 1: There's a lot of cops that are just there because
Speaker 1: again there is redundant policing in that area of DC. Okay,
Speaker 1: so the people that are making you know, big balls
Speaker 1: got himself, you know, beat up by a couple of
Speaker 1: teenagers that supposedly tried to carjack him. I don't know
Speaker 1: where he was at, but I guarantee you that is
Speaker 1: not a common occurrence wherever the hell he was going,
Speaker 1: unless he was going into areas that are not near
Speaker 1: the government stuff. That's what I'm saying. There is a
Speaker 1: weird reaction that goes on here. Like I said, even
Speaker 1: the go to of Chicago. I'm kinda tired of that
Speaker 1: because again, statistically, I watch people, you know, manipulate the
Speaker 1: statistics every which way. But here's the reality. In most
Speaker 1: of the places where people have the power to speak
Speaker 1: from their issues are not the same as the people
Speaker 1: living in the bad neighborhoods who have a completely different
Speaker 1: idea about what is needed and what is not being serviced.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing. Look all that aside, though it
Speaker 1: doesn't prevent even with the heavy policing, it doesn't prevent
Speaker 1: this overflow of violence. It just doesn't. It might restrict
Speaker 1: some of the randomness of it. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get as many drunken brawls, okay, because they're first of
Speaker 1: all not going to allow bars into certain areas and
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Yes, yes, all of that is a factor.
Speaker 1: But what's interesting here is that, no matter how you
Speaker 1: slice it, we have an overabundance of violence. And I'm
Speaker 1: telling you, if all we had was rocks, you'd be
Speaker 1: having people stoned to death here because it's just something
Speaker 1: that is happening. And to my reckoning is about and
Speaker 1: I know everybody goes what do you do with that?
Speaker 1: But it's about this lack of value placed on human life.
Speaker 1: That's what it really comes down to. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: I don't see the celebrating for people being killed. I
Speaker 1: don't see the you know, selective outrage or any of
Speaker 1: that being helpful to handling the core issue. And yeah,
Speaker 1: the past few days have been a clear demonstration that
Speaker 1: the loudest voices have little to do with the reality
Speaker 1: of the situation. And I think they want more of
Speaker 1: this as long as the violence is against the right
Speaker 1: people in their minds. And this again is not a
Speaker 1: statement about one side or the other. As long as
Speaker 1: the violence is against the right people, that's okay. That's
Speaker 1: really what it comes down to.
Speaker 2: Anybody. There is no way that anybody can legitimately argue
Speaker 2: that the violence is once fighted. You know, it's no.
Speaker 1: I didn't say that.
Speaker 2: I didn't say how to put this.
Speaker 1: You don't know.
Speaker 2: No, I you know, I realized that you didn't say.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is is there are a lot of
Speaker 2: people in the past two days that I have sat
Speaker 2: and listened to and watch what they type, and it's
Speaker 2: you know, it's coming from some extreme and it's like,
Speaker 2: wait a damn minute. You know, if you're accusing somebody
Speaker 2: of something that you are doing yourself right and you
Speaker 2: don't see it. I mean, kids today, I don't understand
Speaker 2: what it is. You know, it's I hate to say
Speaker 2: it because people say it's a cliche. You know. Back
Speaker 2: in the day, well, you know, back in the day,
Speaker 2: we were capable of going to high school with a
Speaker 2: thurtyot six and a shotgun in your rifle, racking your
Speaker 2: pickup truck and park on campus because you went deer
Speaker 2: hunting before you went to school, or you went duck
Speaker 2: hunting before you went to school, and it was nothing
Speaker 2: to My friend and I used to walk through the
Speaker 2: neighborhood with a shotgun on our shoulder, walking about four
Speaker 2: blocks down to the train trestle to go across the creek.
Speaker 2: We were out of the city's limits and we could
Speaker 2: go dove hunting. And then from the first to September
Speaker 2: to the end of the month, that's usually what we
Speaker 2: did about every other afternoon. If we had the money
Speaker 2: to go buy shelves. If that happened today, you'd have
Speaker 2: you'd have fifty calls just in the first five blocks
Speaker 2: into nine to one one, and like you, it would
Speaker 2: take thirty five minutes for somebody to show up because
Speaker 2: we suddenly went from the city limits to the country
Speaker 2: and now the sheriff has to handle it, and he's
Speaker 2: on the other side of the county. You know, it's today.
Speaker 2: You couldn't get away with that. And I don't understand
Speaker 2: and how it got so bad. It's not the prevalence
Speaker 2: of guns. We've always had guns. Most people that I
Speaker 2: know growing up were raised around guns. And that's a
Speaker 2: lot of people, a lot of people in various states.
Speaker 2: So I don't understand what it is that's happening to
Speaker 2: the damn younger people today that they think that violence
Speaker 2: is the only way to react to something.
Speaker 1: I don't get it well, as I've tried to say,
Speaker 1: and I get hit with or you're just deliberal. But look,
Speaker 1: if you instill in a population from the time they
Speaker 1: are sentient, you know in the world that nobody's life
Speaker 1: is worth anything you know around you, then what's the
Speaker 1: point Your life isn't worth crap? Nobody else's life is
Speaker 1: worth the damn either. That's the thing. The devaluation of
Speaker 1: that has been the steady trend. And you know, younger people,
Speaker 1: older people. It's okay to mock the murder of somebody's
Speaker 1: father sometimes, isn't it. But it's sacred if it's a
Speaker 1: guy you like and they're a father. You know. That's
Speaker 1: the thing that gets me about this is you know again,
Speaker 1: this is me pointing a finger at liberals at the moment.
Speaker 1: But don't worry. Hang around a second. It's okay if
Speaker 1: it's somebody's dad and it's somebody you don't like, it's good.
Speaker 1: It's all good. I don't care if they got beat
Speaker 1: in the head with a hammer, because you know, Paul
Speaker 1: Pelosi was somebody's dad, so that was okay. It doesn't
Speaker 1: matter about those politicians that were shot and murdered in
Speaker 1: their bed because they were Democrats. We don't have flags
Speaker 1: at half masted. Right, It's okay the murder Charlie Kirk
Speaker 1: because he was an agitator. Right, he was out there
Speaker 1: proved me wrong. I don't care, and he called people names,
Speaker 1: so it's okay to shoot him. Right. It was okay
Speaker 1: to shoot doctor King because he was causing trouble. It's
Speaker 1: okay to kill the guy who was saying ugly things
Speaker 1: in the street because it's all right, you know, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, here we go, it's just
Speaker 1: people literally pre loaded with a justification. Let me find
Speaker 1: the justification to make it so somebody can forfeit their life.
Speaker 1: And you know, people do this with the paradigms of war,
Speaker 1: and I get that we dehumanize the enemy and this
Speaker 1: is the way it works. And that's how you rally
Speaker 1: a society, that's how you keep the cause going and again,
Speaker 1: you know, reliving nine to eleven trauma over and over again.
Speaker 1: At this point, I know we should never forget and
Speaker 1: all that, but man, the people that use that as
Speaker 1: audgel that weren't even alive at the time to beat
Speaker 1: others with because that's now justified. Whatever you do becomes
Speaker 1: justified because some other, for whatever reason, is now not
Speaker 1: eligible to be valued as a human life. They forfeit
Speaker 1: their right to breathe because they disagreed with you, because
Speaker 1: they happen to be these other people, because they're associated
Speaker 1: with they're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Speaker 1: It's okay that the guy died because he was just
Speaker 1: a drug addict. Anyway, I mean, across the board, people
Speaker 1: have this built in and sometimes they say it out loud,
Speaker 1: and sometimes they don't. And I got to tell you,
Speaker 1: the people with the thoughts and prayers this week with
Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk are lying. They're lying because well, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: You know it's funny though which you take one side
Speaker 2: of the thoughts and prayers. Two weeks ago they told
Speaker 2: you that's repugnant to say that, and yet they're the
Speaker 2: first ones to come up there and say, ah, we
Speaker 2: offer are parts of prayers to Charlie's family. Yeah, kiss
Speaker 2: my ass. Two weeks ago, when people did that for
Speaker 2: parents that lost kids in the school, we had one
Speaker 2: side of the political spectrum saying that's repugnant, that's repulsive,
Speaker 2: that's up. You're just you're disgusting for doing that. Do
Speaker 2: something about it, you know, don't just offer your prayers.
Speaker 2: And then here we are two weeks later, and the
Speaker 2: ones who were coming out saying we don't need your
Speaker 2: thoughts and prayers, screw you, are now offering thoughts and prayers.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I agree with you. Look,
Speaker 1: I agree with you, but I go further in that
Speaker 1: I don't buy it when any of them say it. Okay,
Speaker 1: literally both sides here, all sides. It's a lie because
Speaker 1: if you give them a look objective, objective things. Okay,
Speaker 1: and look, it's not about Trump. It isn't. I don't
Speaker 1: care anymore, but just I can't even get people to think.
Speaker 2: For a moment a lot of this about Trump.
Speaker 1: Okay maybe, but but but I'm trying to say, that's
Speaker 1: not where my thinking is when I say what I'm
Speaker 1: about to lay out, which is, Okay, the drug boat
Speaker 1: with Venezuela, which happened also in the new cycle, everybody
Speaker 1: forgot about, you know, because they're either on Epstein or
Speaker 1: they're on Charlie Kirk now and either you know, outrage
Speaker 1: or false BS sympathy or you know, extra outrage to
Speaker 1: justify what they want to do anyway, so you know,
Speaker 1: all sides guilty. The thing is this, you blow up
Speaker 1: a drug boat that's coming out of Venezuela. Eleven people
Speaker 1: are on it. That's all good to kill them or
Speaker 1: whatever because you say they had drugs on a boat.
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what the evidence was, but is
Speaker 1: that the functionality? Yes, it is, you judged somebody, You
Speaker 1: declared it. You don't have to investigate, prove it in
Speaker 1: a court, do anything else, no kind of process do
Speaker 1: or otherwise, and it's all good. See that was a
Speaker 1: good thing that was done. Now I'm not saying that
Speaker 1: it's not done on the other side, because the other
Speaker 1: side will tell you that. Well, you know what here
Speaker 1: it is you want to live in a place where
Speaker 1: you know your governor behaves a certain way. It's like
Speaker 1: your kids deserve to get shot in school. I mean
Speaker 1: that's the attitude. That's the coded attitude. And it goes across.
Speaker 1: It's like, well, you don't want to live in you
Speaker 1: want to live into a place that's run by DeSantis. Well,
Speaker 1: then you know people are going to get shot, okay.
Speaker 1: And then on the other side, you want to live
Speaker 1: in New York or Chicago. Hey, look they got democratic mayors.
Speaker 1: You're going to get shot? When is it not okay?
Speaker 1: You know, when can we Is there a point we
Speaker 1: could rehabilitate ourselves to say murder is not good even
Speaker 1: in all circumstances. You know, if someone dies in the
Speaker 1: course of action because of self defense, it's one thing.
Speaker 1: But when someone is just murdered, I don't care what
Speaker 1: their politics are, what their parents' politics are. You know,
Speaker 1: generally speaking, people with more money don't get shot up
Speaker 1: as often. Okay, there is a divide there, but whether
Speaker 1: they got money or not is not relevant to their
Speaker 1: right to breathe and to not be shot going about
Speaker 1: their day going to Walmart. Okay, on a college campus,
Speaker 1: doing the proved me wrong routine. I don't care what
Speaker 1: you're doing. You didn't enter into the equation of you
Speaker 1: deserve to be murdered. And I don't know why it
Speaker 1: is that it's going to be like the other side,
Speaker 1: the other side, the other side. Okay, great, but you
Speaker 1: better admit that all sides are justifying murder here. They
Speaker 1: do it on different levels, in different places, with different
Speaker 1: people that they think are eligible or legitimate targets. And
Speaker 1: that's why I'm calling all of them liars. All these
Speaker 1: thoughts and prayers, people that have been doing this now,
Speaker 1: you know, ever since Columbine to my memory, you know,
Speaker 1: even though I've tried to explain to people, it's like, oh, Columbine,
Speaker 1: that's when school shooting started. No, they just didn't call
Speaker 1: it that. People used to get shot, kids used to
Speaker 1: get shot at school, but it was in certain neighborhoods,
Speaker 1: so it was ignored. Okay, school shootings occurred my whole
Speaker 1: life on many different, you know, It's just it's not
Speaker 1: recorded like it became recorded after the national attention put
Speaker 1: on Columbine. It is now recorded differently. But violence in
Speaker 1: the schools was going on in my lifetime. Maybe before
Speaker 1: I was born, it wasn't like that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but I'm telling you that ever since I set foot
Speaker 1: in the school and ever since I was aware of
Speaker 1: other places, this has been something that happens. So you know, again,
Speaker 1: it's not about this generation. It's not about how many
Speaker 1: guns there are. It's about a festering ugliness in the
Speaker 1: soul of this country that is well, at a certain point,
Speaker 1: you're you're worthy of not being worthy to live. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know how else to boil it down. I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think I'm crazy for saying this? And by
Speaker 1: the way, Jimmy James is on the line, I see
Speaker 1: you now. I'm gonna get whoever calls in three one nine,
Speaker 1: five two seven, five zero one six. You want to
Speaker 1: get in on this, you want to talk about it,
Speaker 1: You're gonna say what you're gonna say. And I don't
Speaker 1: want to argue with anybody, I really don't. All I
Speaker 1: want to do is figure out a way to address
Speaker 1: the real issue, which in my mind maybe I'm just
Speaker 1: a crazy, stupid you know, I'm not somebody who is like,
Speaker 1: you know, so out of touch with the ideas of
Speaker 1: the troubles. I'm not, I really and I see people
Speaker 1: with that whole thing. You know, Well, people choose to
Speaker 1: be poor, so that's the way that is, and people
Speaker 1: choose to live in violent places. That is as asinine
Speaker 1: as anything else. You know, you don't sit there and go,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna be poor,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna live in a place where I can
Speaker 1: definitely worry about getting shot just walking down the street.
Speaker 1: That's where I want to be. I'm sure there's a
Speaker 1: percentage of people that have that thought in their minds,
Speaker 1: but I don't think anybody consciously does that. You know,
Speaker 1: let's be realistic, even even criminals, right, you know, the
Speaker 1: criminal people who are deserving of X y Z, they
Speaker 1: don't usually want to live in the you know, where
Speaker 1: do the gangsters put their houses? Where do the gang
Speaker 1: bangers move their mamas to When they're making good money
Speaker 1: on drugs, they don't leave them in the roughest neighborhoods. Usually,
Speaker 1: I know, there's a bit of a trend about that's right.
Speaker 1: We never lift the neighborhood. We never lift the hood.
Speaker 1: Tough guy talk, but you ever examine the guys that
Speaker 1: are actually successful, They don't leave their people in the
Speaker 1: bad neighborhoods. Nobody wants to live in the toilet. If
Speaker 1: you got a choice, you know, nobody wants to live
Speaker 1: where you're fearing for your life all the time. If
Speaker 1: you got a choice, you really don't. Most people do
Speaker 1: not want to live there. That includes drug addicts and
Speaker 1: even most mental patients really don't enjoy being shot at
Speaker 1: or fearing for their lives. They really don't, regardless of
Speaker 1: what people try to tell you. So the circumstance that
Speaker 1: nobody wants continues to happen way too often in a
Speaker 1: place where we're supposed to have and be able to
Speaker 1: be the best of everything, right, isn't that the idea?
Speaker 5: Here?
Speaker 1: We're we're not succeeding. I mean, do you do you
Speaker 1: understand where I'm coming from? Or am I really? If
Speaker 1: you think I'm just being stupid, fine tell me that
Speaker 1: I have no.
Speaker 2: I understand exactly where you're coming from, because you know
Speaker 2: I'm like you, I would love to live somewhere else
Speaker 2: if I could afford it. You know, I would love
Speaker 2: to be able to provide for other people if I
Speaker 2: could afford it. Sure, I got lucky in my situation
Speaker 2: where I live. I've got great neighbors, you know, kind
Speaker 2: of like you you know, a one cop town that
Speaker 2: if anything happens after seven o'clock at night, you're waiting
Speaker 2: on a sheriff to show up that's forty miles away.
Speaker 2: It's just I think something has happened, and I can't
Speaker 2: put my finger on it.
Speaker 1: It didn't happen yesterday.
Speaker 2: No, No, somehow, No, it didn't happen yesterday, And it's
Speaker 2: been going on, and I'm trying to put my finger
Speaker 2: on when the decline started. I'm still go by my
Speaker 2: theory that the disposable, non returnable bottle was the start
Speaker 2: of our downfall, as the civilization could be. But something
Speaker 2: has gone on the past couple generations. I mean, we've
Speaker 2: had what we've had twenty four years since nine to eleven,
Speaker 2: which completely changed the world. It changed us, probably more
Speaker 2: than the rest of the world because it happened here.
Speaker 2: We had to take a long, hard look at ourselves.
Speaker 2: When that happened. Did we learn anything from it? A
Speaker 2: few things, But I think we have forgotten some important
Speaker 2: things that came out of that and we were not
Speaker 2: keeping those in mind. But somehow, generationally, people have devolved.
Speaker 2: It's not the I don't think society has devolved. I
Speaker 2: think individuals have devolved, which then reflects in society devolving.
Speaker 2: It starts with the individual, and I don't people today
Speaker 2: don't have any accountability. They don't want to take accountability
Speaker 2: for anything. They jump to conclusions, they play the stereotypes,
Speaker 2: they live off of memes, and they have the intention
Speaker 2: span of a knack. And it's just made for a
Speaker 2: worse society overall. I'm being honest with you. I would
Speaker 2: hate to have to raise kids in today's world. Yeah, well,
Speaker 2: you know we used to in my day. It was
Speaker 2: the civil hide under the desk emergency drill in case
Speaker 2: of a nuclear attack. You know, they don't want to
Speaker 2: tell us. Look, you can get under the desk, but
Speaker 2: when the desk melts along with you, it really doesn't
Speaker 2: do any good. But we did that. I could not
Speaker 2: imagine having to have a kid in school that has
Speaker 2: to go through a shooter scenario.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, they didn't drill that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's outrageous and something has caused this, this de
Speaker 2: evolution of people, and I don't know. I'm gonna probably
Speaker 2: stay up the next four weeks trying to figure it out.
Speaker 1: No, I hear you, and I'm telling you now that
Speaker 1: realistic conversations about you know, when I decided to have children,
Speaker 1: you know, I questioned the wisdom. You know. I love
Speaker 1: my youngest son, you know that. But I look at
Speaker 1: him and I want to apologize to him that, you know,
Speaker 1: I willfully brought him into the circumstance that we find
Speaker 1: ourselves in. We should be able to do better. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm serious, we should be able to do better and better.
Speaker 2: But that doesn't You shouldn't. You shouldn't feel like you
Speaker 2: have to apologize for bringing somebody into this world and
Speaker 2: the world is the way it is because you had
Speaker 2: nothing to do with the downfall of society.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, but I might not have. I might not
Speaker 1: have caused him to have to endure this had I considered,
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I did. I existed in the pre
Speaker 1: surveillance society here, you know, where everything was not surveilled.
Speaker 1: Because that's another thing. We got more eyes on things
Speaker 1: than we ever have. It is harder to get away
Speaker 1: with things in the dark, and yet we are blind
Speaker 1: to what's really rotting us exactly, and and and that
Speaker 1: is the thing that is. Yeah, I got to apologize
Speaker 1: because I should have thought better of how to prepare him,
Speaker 1: of when to choose to have him. And you know,
Speaker 1: I got older kids too, who don't know a reality's
Speaker 1: previous to the surveillance state, to surveillance capitalism, to everything
Speaker 1: you do being tracked, which is also not good either
Speaker 1: and has not helped as far as you know, it doesn't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't stop that. I mean, they had film with
Speaker 1: this guy on the roof, various people with their phones,
Speaker 1: a bunch of you know, forget about big brother you
Speaker 1: got them, you got millions of little brothers out there
Speaker 1: recording everything. And still it took him two days to
Speaker 1: to arrest this guy. Anyway, I'm just saying, look, Jimmy
Speaker 1: James has been on hole the while, and I want
Speaker 1: to get him on. I want to get anybody on
Speaker 1: and calls in, so I want to give him a
Speaker 1: chance to speak his mind, whatever that may be. And
Speaker 1: you know, oh, be Pete, where'd you go? Crap? Okay?
Speaker 1: I lost be Pete. I'm gonna try and get him back.
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, Jimmy, maybe I gotta go to
Speaker 1: a break and refix the thing with be Pete. But
Speaker 1: before I do that, you just, oh, there he is.
Speaker 1: I think he's back.
Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. I just cleared out, kicked
Speaker 2: out my browser.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, well you're back. Jimmy's on the line. So
Speaker 1: I turned it over to Jimmy to say whatever he wants.
Speaker 5: I can't hear myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I'm sorry about that. I don't know why,
Speaker 1: but you're coming through.
Speaker 2: Okay, before he gets gone? Have you here anything from
Speaker 2: his fame?
Speaker 1: Anything from what.
Speaker 2: I said before Jimmy gets gone? Have we heard anything
Speaker 2: from his fan? You know, Jimmy a man with a fan.
Speaker 1: Oh no, but there was more than one of them.
Speaker 1: I have not gotten a response on Facebook from the guy.
Speaker 1: So let me try and turn myself down a little bit.
Speaker 1: So maybe I don't know. Maybe that's what's echoing back
Speaker 1: to Jimmy. But see if I can help out here.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh is that about?
Speaker 5: Yeah? I hear myself. What's the word?
Speaker 1: Okay, So go ahead with what's on your mind. Sorry
Speaker 1: about that.
Speaker 5: We just uh said a couple of things. I'll go
Speaker 5: through the first rose before the trailer, Kurt assassination, such
Speaker 5: a JFK related thing.
Speaker 2: Uh don't.
Speaker 5: I'll just in my own mind, I've pretty much Celtic
Speaker 5: Cuban G two had anything to do with that. I'm
Speaker 5: more like dissolved to that.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean?
Speaker 5: Yeah, these are being hostly. I there's this.
Speaker 6: Film I had not Did you know that Alpha sixty six,
Speaker 6: I guess is still around and was quite active in
Speaker 6: the nineties.
Speaker 1: I didn't know necessarily their active time period was, but
Speaker 1: I know they existed after the sixties. Yeah, and uh.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well apparently it's still around because I watched this film.
Speaker 6: That really it's called uh and it's you know, any
Speaker 6: of these channels on your phone, you could pretty.
Speaker 5: Much watch it for free. I watched it out to
Speaker 5: Be or Tubby. I think it's called to Be Okay
Speaker 5: to Be. It's the one I got installed that came
Speaker 5: with a stupid phone. Well, the films. It's a documentary
Speaker 5: and it was called Castro's Spies, and it was about
Speaker 5: five Cuban agents who were uh living living black in
Speaker 5: the United States on the half of the Cuban g
Speaker 5: T two and I got well of my notes. One second.
Speaker 1: Well, sure, Also, they just wrapped filming of November twenty second,
Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three in Canada, as I understand it, they're
Speaker 1: now going to post production. And I don't know a
Speaker 1: ton about that, but I was going to read up
Speaker 1: on that film because it's going to be yet another
Speaker 1: one of these, you know, Hollywood creations. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's been filmed for a streaming service or for
Speaker 1: theater release or what, but apparently, you know, it's another
Speaker 1: one of these mob driven scenarios, informed by, you know,
Speaker 1: the family of one of the prominent, most often named mobsters.
Speaker 1: It has some interesting stars. I should probably look that
Speaker 1: up while I'm talking to you, but you're talking about
Speaker 1: this G two Cuban intelligence. Go ahead.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So there's a documentary slum Boxer. Looks like it's
Speaker 5: from the nineties. The story is here from the nineties.
Speaker 6: And what happened was is okay.
Speaker 5: So if the dolls got these five guys, they're over here.
Speaker 5: These are false ideas and they've pretty much been here
Speaker 5: throughout the eighties into the nineties, and would Basically their
Speaker 5: job was to report on the activities of the Miami
Speaker 5: area Cubans and these Cuban these Cuban Cubans, the people
Speaker 5: that they ended up being called the Cuban Five. In
Speaker 5: the nineties, they were watching and actually this is the
Speaker 5: part that I was shocked out, the sixty six and
Speaker 5: they were working with Orlando Bosh.
Speaker 6: And these Keevan Fire These guys.
Speaker 5: At that time around ninety five, six, seven, eight, nineties,
Speaker 5: think the stuff's going on, that's our community was doing
Speaker 5: flights over Havana purposely trying to uh attag a nice
Speaker 5: castro and drop leaflets and this, and these guys, all
Speaker 5: a lot of them infiltrated the group and found out
Speaker 5: that they were going to start doing it with explosives
Speaker 5: in the nineteen nineties, mind you. And it's the same
Speaker 5: names that we all have come to know and love
Speaker 5: as the heads of these things. And these Kevan spies
Speaker 5: found themselves in the predicament of saying, what do we do?
Speaker 5: Should we call the ft Eye to try to prevent this?
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Well, anyways.
Speaker 5: It cannot be the I had already pretty much have
Speaker 5: been spying on them. Well, Cuba did ended up shooting
Speaker 5: down one of them planes from the soapball the Brothers,
Speaker 5: the Brothers whatever is that the current? The axiles were
Speaker 5: flying around the waters looking for jute bins on wraps,
Speaker 5: I guess. Anyways, these Yeah, it's pretty interesting. And so
Speaker 5: these guys get arrested and they're trying to tell the
Speaker 5: FDI eye and all these people will forget us. We
Speaker 5: hadn't even done anything. It's help the sixty six people.
Speaker 5: You got to look at their plotting all kinds of
Speaker 5: terrorist activities. But yeah, that sentenced to afty prison time.
Speaker 5: But then I went and trade them off for something
Speaker 5: to Castros. So they all got back to Cuba and
Speaker 5: they actually did the interviews. And what I found shocking was,
Speaker 5: I mean, just as people, I think, geez, these Cuban
Speaker 5: g two people's at least this film the first they
Speaker 5: play at the actual interviews, I'm like, well, do they
Speaker 5: seem like a lot more reasonable than their counterparts?
Speaker 2: Uaite?
Speaker 1: Honestly, yeah, it's a mixed bag with all that, because
Speaker 1: you know, there's Central and South American figures that are
Speaker 1: tied to you know, these radical groups and infiltration groups
Speaker 1: and stuff. You know, once there was no longer a
Speaker 1: project in America. Some of them turn around and get
Speaker 1: involved in other Central and South American conflicts, drug dealing,
Speaker 1: death squads. You'd be amazed at how these guys, you know,
Speaker 1: kind of just living in the invisible part of society.
Speaker 1: Guess what they find themselves occupied with a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things. There are weird names repeated where the DEA
Speaker 1: comes across these guys, you know, and they're like, what
Speaker 1: are these you know, like radical anti Castro or pro
Speaker 1: Castro people doing involved with you know, Guatemalans. What are
Speaker 1: they doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's the problem. That's what these stupids are saying.
Speaker 5: They're saying what in the house, the FBIDDE and all
Speaker 5: the rest doing Ignoring these people. That's why Castro felt
Speaker 5: the need to send these people here to watch them, right,
Speaker 5: because these people are not I'm sorry to say, I mean,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna try to talk to.
Speaker 6: I mean, I yes, I have to ask what's the
Speaker 6: difference between Is there.
Speaker 5: A difference between Felix Rodriguez and these nuts?
Speaker 1: Well, it depends on what time period you're talking about, because,
Speaker 1: like I said, at a certain point, they're dedicated to,
Speaker 1: you know, reclaiming Cuba, Right, that's their thing, that's their homeland.
Speaker 1: They want it back from Castro or they want to
Speaker 1: support Castro, depending on which guys you're talking about, right,
Speaker 1: And they're occupied with all that, But then they get
Speaker 1: cut loose. They find themselves in situations where they know
Speaker 1: gun runners, they know people that are willing to you know,
Speaker 1: launder money and hide stuff and have connections to you know,
Speaker 1: not just American intelligence, but other intelligence agencies, like there
Speaker 1: is a whole interesting story about the ready for this,
Speaker 1: the Mexican Intelligence agency, which the name escapes me at
Speaker 1: the moment. There is a whole nexus of people that
Speaker 1: came together in Mexico, you know, post assassination time when
Speaker 1: everybody's dealing with that intrigue afterwards. There is a whole
Speaker 1: untold story there that, to my mind suspiciously looks like
Speaker 1: there might have been people that you know, were involved
Speaker 1: in all this cloak and dagger stuff in the sixties,
Speaker 1: who in the seventies and eighties helped to do what
Speaker 1: facilitate these different drug cartels and stuff like that put
Speaker 1: them in business. And you know, we figure it out,
Speaker 1: or the public figures it out twenty thirty years after
Speaker 1: the fact, and these guys were there making a living
Speaker 1: just because you know, what are they going to do
Speaker 1: with their face paperwork when you know they're no longer
Speaker 1: being supported. You know, whether it's the guys that were
Speaker 1: being supported by our intelligence agency or it's the guys
Speaker 1: that were being supported by Castro's regime, it's irrelevant. They
Speaker 1: end up loosed into well, I can speak Spanish, I
Speaker 1: know how to do stuff off the books, and they
Speaker 1: get involved. Like I said, there's guys linked to death
Speaker 1: squads that are showing up that. Like I said, DEA
Speaker 1: guys are like I didn't realize I was in the
Speaker 1: room with, you know, a spy and alleged assassin. You know,
Speaker 1: when I'm out there trying to track things down, this
Speaker 1: guy's given me guidance, you know, through the hills in Colombia,
Speaker 1: even though he's not Colombian, right I mean. And meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you know there's a whole thing of the DEA agents
Speaker 1: that got hung out to dry where it was like
Speaker 1: they knew that their cover was blown, their bosses still
Speaker 1: sent them out there. And some of these guys turn
Speaker 1: up in those circumstances, like the whole murder of Kiki Camaretta,
Speaker 1: there is a whole weird thing going on where you
Speaker 1: got CIA guys showing up who instructed the people that
Speaker 1: you know murdered him in torture techniques a couple of
Speaker 1: years earlier, and it is a whole tangled mess that
Speaker 1: you know, people try to oversimplify, but there is a
Speaker 1: whole thing that goes on. It's the gift that keeps
Speaker 1: on giving, you know. By the way, I brought up
Speaker 1: that film earlier, and it is eleven two sixty three,
Speaker 1: and it's a Hulu film apparently, and the thing that
Speaker 1: just wrapped production stars John Travolta, Mandy Patankin, and a
Speaker 1: guy named Robert Carlisle. And its main premise is about,
Speaker 1: you know, the Chicago outfit tied to the John F.
Speaker 1: Kennedy assassination. So there's that. Yeah.
Speaker 5: Another and here's another movie that sells to me if
Speaker 5: you if you really want to get agitated. I tried
Speaker 5: to watch this film three years ago, but you thought
Speaker 5: it was the the Umbrella Man footage. Now they made
Speaker 5: a feature film, a dramatic film, somebody did. And I'm
Speaker 5: curious as who did this because it was prop anti
Speaker 5: JFK researcher propaganda. What it was disguised as a normal
Speaker 5: drama film, and whoever did it, I could tell his
Speaker 5: low budget. I found it amusing that there was a
Speaker 5: few shout outs to us that actually know something, you know,
Speaker 5: like the like they had a Ramblert car, but the
Speaker 5: world kind but it's probably all they could afford to
Speaker 5: find because it seemed to be kind of low budget.
Speaker 5: But the whole film takes place in the early eighties,
Speaker 5: and basically the more of the story is that the
Speaker 5: guy who's interested in the jfk assassination, well, he's really
Speaker 5: screwed up in the head, and he has an emptiness
Speaker 5: in his life that makes him do this, and he
Speaker 5: supposedly tracks down the widow of the man with the umbrella,
Speaker 5: even though he wasn't the real guy who it says
Speaker 5: there he is in his own you people can't yell
Speaker 5: at him no more. You drove him to the grave
Speaker 5: and all this crap like that. Holy cow, I think
Speaker 5: this movie had to have been produced Posner and his friends.
Speaker 5: Check it out. I mean, if nothing else that's worth
Speaker 5: a laugh.
Speaker 1: Well, I think you're talking about the Arrow. Are you
Speaker 1: talking about the Errol Morris film? Because I did watch No,
Speaker 1: Because no shot.
Speaker 5: I keep trying to tell you, no, it's not that.
Speaker 5: This is an hour and a half movie with actors
Speaker 5: and a fake story. That is propaganda and the JFK researchers.
Speaker 1: Okay, I believe you.
Speaker 5: I said, nothing to do with the arrow. What's his nuts?
Speaker 1: Okay? But he made a film I'm just saying, and
Speaker 1: that that was the most popular I know.
Speaker 5: I know it's a ten minute piece of junk he
Speaker 5: made on the fiftieth cleven that that guy was the
Speaker 5: Umbrella Man, which he was not.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm, well let's see any idea what year it
Speaker 1: is or anything, because there's a bunch of Umbrella Man
Speaker 1: films on IMDb, and I don't know which ones which.
Speaker 5: Wow, this one, I said, Chilly the Whip, I'll find
Speaker 5: it again. It's this is like a dramatic movie. I mean,
Speaker 5: is I assure you there's laughing factual in this film,
Speaker 5: that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Well there's one that stars Carter Roy, Rachel Caprani, and
Speaker 1: Abby Cobb, which is written and directed by Michael Grasso
Speaker 1: and also writing credit to Joe Grasso. Is that is
Speaker 1: that the one?
Speaker 2: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Because that looks like a drama.
Speaker 5: Kirby was the like for the roll for like the
Speaker 5: early twelve ten.
Speaker 1: Was twenty sixteen, it says, and it's in it's almost
Speaker 1: two hours in length.
Speaker 5: Well it could be. I'm just curious. Does a synopsis
Speaker 5: say that a guy's daughter dies and then he turns
Speaker 5: his grief into insanity and obsession? Kind of studying the
Speaker 5: JFK as.
Speaker 1: Kind of yeah, kind of, it says. While trying to
Speaker 1: discover more about the killer of his son, Brennan becomes
Speaker 1: fixated on the story of the Umbrella Man, a suspected
Speaker 1: shooter in the in the assassination of John F. Kennedy.
Speaker 1: Does that sound right.
Speaker 5: Budo, that's the movie. That's the movie that there was
Speaker 5: one wonderful propagand of piece. I would you be Pete.
Speaker 5: Everyone who you know should watch it. Watch it for
Speaker 5: begin I know it's painful, but I'll especially watch you
Speaker 5: just see the ending, the moral tale at the ending.
Speaker 1: Okay, it does say it streams on to be so
Speaker 1: it's probably it's probably the right one.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Well it's completely.
Speaker 1: Free, Okay, cool. I will definitely check it out. I
Speaker 1: need more free stuff to watch anyway. Uh, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you most JFK stuff At this point isn't even entertaining.
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you. I mean, I'm wondering if.
Speaker 5: This one I'll at least admit. I mean, there's a
Speaker 5: few amusing parts. There's like story diff stories going on,
Speaker 5: but at the end of the day, it is an
Speaker 5: anti JFKA researcher propaganda piece. But I do like their
Speaker 5: little shout bouts, like they're at one of the point
Speaker 5: so well of the fields go a lot as they're
Speaker 5: at a convention a JEFFK. Covets at one point they're
Speaker 5: of course they're all displayed as crazy lords and stuff,
Speaker 5: and you could hear this little guy, yo, hey, Mark
Speaker 5: Lane's got girls, and we run it the whole second floor.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well see that was the whole thing the FBI.
Speaker 1: The FBI went after Mark Lane for a while. It
Speaker 1: was kind of wild that Errol Morris thing I was
Speaker 1: just looking up to because it comes up with this film.
Speaker 1: It says on here it's only six minutes long. I'll
Speaker 1: tell you, it's a long ass six minutes. And Josiah
Speaker 1: Thompson's in that thing, which was kind of disappointing that
Speaker 1: he participated in it, you know, But anyway.
Speaker 6: That pick.
Speaker 5: Ayon, he is that Errol Morris garbage. There's been studies
Speaker 5: and that umbrella and it is not belong from the film.
Speaker 5: So if they ride to that simple, why listen to
Speaker 5: them at all?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, fair enough, I've always said that, you know,
Speaker 1: the Lewis Witt character was really strange and the supposed umbrella.
Speaker 1: He might have thought that was the umbrella if he
Speaker 1: was indeed the guy, But that's not the umbrella. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just that simple.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: How it is. They got lost, everybody.
Speaker 5: Nothing makes sense protesting Joe Kennedy because of his World
Speaker 5: War Two stances. What are you talking about?
Speaker 1: Right, He's trying to be Neville Chamberlain, who was known
Speaker 1: by the umbrella, right, I mean, that's that's the story.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, he.
Speaker 5: Says he is in Dallas, Texas l full sixty three,
Speaker 5: this weird fresh freako or was protesting Duke Kennedy's and
Speaker 5: cham Okay, Yeah, to Jack Kennedy after the fact.
Speaker 1: Right, what do you talk to him about twenty five
Speaker 1: years later? I'm gonna do that because you know, it's
Speaker 1: almost like saying, you know what, I'm gonna go protest
Speaker 1: Donald Trump So what I'm gonna do is burn a
Speaker 1: Scottish flag, uh, just to aggravate him, disrespect his.
Speaker 5: Mother up with what is that thing? He would not
Speaker 5: have an Yeah, either.
Speaker 1: Either his mother or his grandmother came from Scotland. So
Speaker 1: what I'm doing out there is I'm going to insult
Speaker 1: his ancestors at a protest for him. That that that
Speaker 1: that's about how much sense that Lewis Whitt story makes
Speaker 1: to me? Honest, I mean, do people do people made
Speaker 1: no sense?
Speaker 5: You never It's it's so full of crap, right good?
Speaker 1: No, No, I agree with you. I was going to
Speaker 1: say the same thing. It's so much nonsense, you know,
Speaker 1: do I think? But but also same time, no, it's
Speaker 1: not a gun either, I don't think so, you know.
Speaker 1: And I don't care what do you call it?
Speaker 5: No, no, no, that's the point. I don't believe that
Speaker 5: Long had a go No, but I don't think he
Speaker 5: was that d wi her whip.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, it's a very strange deal. And and
Speaker 1: I'll tell you I don't care what Cutler did. Interesting work.
Speaker 1: You know Cutler's little uh monographs You ever see those?
Speaker 5: Yuh? Yeah, you're so Cuddler, not Tucker correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm saying Cutler right. Uh v PTE. You got
Speaker 1: some music going on? Is there a football game? What's the.
Speaker 2: Talk about?
Speaker 1: Now? All of a sudden I heard music coming in.
Speaker 1: I thought it was.
Speaker 5: Weird music on me.
Speaker 1: Okay, ghost and maybe ghost in the machine. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what. Let's see what time it is here and yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, look we'll take it on. Yeah, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: take a quick break here just so I can use
Speaker 1: the facility. So, Jimmy, so far, you're the only one
Speaker 1: to call in, So hang on. I'm gonna put you
Speaker 1: on hold and probably bring you right back on when
Speaker 1: we come back, unless somebody else jumps in, in which
Speaker 1: case maybe we'll put more than one person on and
Speaker 1: we'll continue this discussion. But I gotta say, you know,
Speaker 1: I can't get past what you and I opened with,
Speaker 1: because that's all I can keep thinking is all we're
Speaker 1: seeing is the symptoms of this sick and I gotta
Speaker 1: say I feel like that's what it is. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to sound like, you know, one of
Speaker 1: these airy fairy jackasses, but there is, and I hate
Speaker 1: to say it. Remember that crazy lady who ran for
Speaker 1: president what was her name? She was like a I
Speaker 1: don't know, a psychic and she was on Oprah and
Speaker 1: what was her name? I can't remember, but you know
Speaker 1: what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Oh crap, yeah, I know, Jesus, hold on, I'll find it.
Speaker 1: All I can think of is that even though she
Speaker 1: was a kookie and you know, a plagiarizing self help
Speaker 1: like she took like she's like, I'm a teacher on
Speaker 1: like chicken soup for the soul or something stupid or
Speaker 1: the secret or I don't know whatever, but she grabs
Speaker 1: somebody else's idea and teaches that course. And then somehow
Speaker 1: it's Mary Anne something or other. She becomes, you know,
Speaker 1: a guru, and she ran for president and she was
Speaker 1: goofy and kookie all the way through. But I gotta
Speaker 1: say this, when she said there is like a creeping
Speaker 1: darkness over America, I can't get around. Look, you know,
Speaker 1: broken clocks and such, they're right a couple times a day, right,
Speaker 1: you know, just saying even if it doesn't move, the
Speaker 1: hands don't move at all, they will be right twice
Speaker 1: a day. And maybe Marianne god whatever, Williamson, that's.
Speaker 2: It, Williamson.
Speaker 1: I can't disagree with her on that that there is something,
Speaker 1: but can I identify it? I think I have, but
Speaker 1: maybe I don't articulate it properly. There is something too,
Speaker 1: and I'm not even saying I have an answer, but
Speaker 1: there is something too. This universal principle of you know what,
Speaker 1: I find life sacred. You know, I'm a Christian or
Speaker 1: I'm an ethical atheist or whatever whatever the hell it
Speaker 1: is you say is your moral set of values is
Speaker 1: irrelevant because you turn around you say that, and then
Speaker 1: you say, you know, people should not be killed or
Speaker 1: people should not be killed for this or that, and
Speaker 1: people should not violence should not And then guess what.
Speaker 1: We can find a scenario where you're like, nope, kill
Speaker 1: them all. Nope, it's fine that somebody killed that person.
Speaker 1: I'm not even close to bothered by that at all.
Speaker 1: And it's one thing to be bothered by it because
Speaker 1: you're not personally connected to it. And I get that
Speaker 1: and admit that, and that's fine. You could say that
Speaker 1: and say, look, I wasn't affected. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 1: know Charlie Kirk. You know, he exists in internet land,
Speaker 1: but I've got nothing in common with the guy. As
Speaker 1: far as I know, I got no mutual connections, don't
Speaker 1: care what his political beliefs were. But I don't hate
Speaker 1: him and didn't seek his death and don't seek the
Speaker 1: death of people even if I do hate him in this,
Speaker 1: you know, sort of circumstance. But there appears to be
Speaker 1: a lot of liars out there who don't want to
Speaker 1: admit that. They have a line where it's like, it's
Speaker 1: okay for that person to be murdered because they are
Speaker 1: this type of person. It's okay for that person to
Speaker 1: be murdered because they're in the wrong place. It's okay
Speaker 1: for that type of person to be murdered because they're
Speaker 1: you know, fill in the blank. They're a drug addict,
Speaker 1: they're a Democrat, they're a communist, they're yeah. And the
Speaker 1: funny thing is that the anti communist and the anti
Speaker 1: fascist out there really does embrace the idea of killing
Speaker 1: your enemies if you give them the right enemies. So
Speaker 1: the dishonesty is too much. And that's why I addressed
Speaker 1: and I'm going to show you in show notes. I
Speaker 1: tried to address Chris Cuomo every now and then because
Speaker 1: he is such a meathead, embarrassing Italian who has no
Speaker 1: moral principles whatsoever. But continues to be a talking you know,
Speaker 1: a talking head. And now instead of being on CNN,
Speaker 1: he's on a Christian news network where he tells you
Speaker 1: about his Christianity every time and equivocates and tells you
Speaker 1: about you know, well, you know, he he says Christian
Speaker 1: all the time. But I think it's Catholic. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: Catholics are Christian.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, yeah, but no, it's kind of Mormons.
Speaker 1: Well I'm sorry, I just they are, but they aren't. Well,
Speaker 1: they call themselves Christians. You know. Look, I'm just going
Speaker 1: with the descriptor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know they do. But well, when the head
Speaker 2: of the church is supposed to be Christ, but the
Speaker 2: head of the church is the pope, you know, Martin
Speaker 2: Luther thought that the pope was the inner Christ.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know, look, I don't necessarily disagree with
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of what Martin Luther had to say,
Speaker 1: but let's go right.
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Speaker 1: But hey, it's all there anyhow. Uh three one five
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Speaker 1: We got Jimmy James on the line. My cost beat
Speaker 1: petes with me and so are you so if you're
Speaker 1: hearing the podcast later, hey, it is what it is,
Speaker 1: and I you know, I gotta be honest. Uh. Personal
Speaker 1: issues along with the condition of the world around me.
Speaker 1: It's kind of discouraging, depressing, et cetera. What can I
Speaker 1: say anyway, be pete anything on your mind before we
Speaker 1: put Jimmy James back on and see what else he's
Speaker 1: got on his.
Speaker 2: Well. You know, I've had a couple of battles going
Speaker 2: on Twitter with a few people, and all I can
Speaker 2: say is this, you know, Charlie Kirk. Charlie Kirk did
Speaker 2: what he felt was right. Whether you liked him, whether
Speaker 2: you liked what he said, or how he represented what
Speaker 2: he thought is beside the point. He lived his faith,
Speaker 2: he openly. And that's the one thing I don't get
Speaker 2: about this is they're saying such a hateful person. I've
Speaker 2: watched countless videos Charlie Kirk debating people. He never attacks
Speaker 2: them personally. Now, I don't know everything that he's done,
Speaker 2: so I don't want to get bombarded, you know, with
Speaker 2: people's sending me clips called where here he did this,
Speaker 2: and here he did that. You know, I've heard his rhetoric,
Speaker 2: but he did put an open invitation out there that
Speaker 2: he would debate anybody, and he debated. He didn't He
Speaker 2: didn't personally attack people. He might have some things to
Speaker 2: say about groups that people don't agree with, and that's fine.
Speaker 2: Nobody always agrees with everybody. But you can't fault the
Speaker 2: man for trying to have conversations. I don't know, and
Speaker 2: that's one thing that we lacked nowadays, is being able
Speaker 2: to have a conversation. See would be able to have
Speaker 2: a debate.
Speaker 1: See, but I have to default to looking at warts
Speaker 1: and all. Okay, so a lot of the clips, and
Speaker 1: I was watching this guy before he was murdered, you know,
Speaker 1: because the clips changed up as soon as he was murdered, right,
Speaker 1: And I corrected somebody else on Twitter, and they, you know,
Speaker 1: didn't give me a hard time because they were like, ooh,
Speaker 1: it's another mass shooting. I said, no, it wasn't. This
Speaker 1: is an assassination clearly. I mean we don't know who
Speaker 1: did it or why, but it's clearly an assassination. I mean,
Speaker 1: the guy was targeted for sure, and he's the only
Speaker 1: one hit, one shot fired. I don't know how you
Speaker 1: categorize that as anything other than I mean, if it
Speaker 1: was meant to be a mass shooting, then it did
Speaker 1: not go according to plan. The evidence would tell you
Speaker 1: that it was intended to be an assassination. That's what
Speaker 1: it was, but the guy would name call the guy
Speaker 1: was abrasive. It wasn't always civil. Sometimes he was, sometimes
Speaker 1: he wasn't. People bring up, you know, the fact that
Speaker 1: he said, well, you know, there's going to be gun debts.
Speaker 1: I accept that because it's acceptable for us to keep
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment. I don't know why it has to
Speaker 1: be that we accept gun debts for the sake of
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment, because I don't see why we can't have,
Speaker 1: you know, less of that and still keep our rights.
Speaker 1: I don't see how that's not possible except for the
Speaker 1: fact that people insist on bringing the violence. I don't
Speaker 1: know why they insist exactly. I got my theory, and
Speaker 1: I think my theory so earlier.
Speaker 2: You know, we all. I was raised in a in
Speaker 2: a I don't know an atmosphere of guns. Everybody had them,
Speaker 2: everybody knew how to use them responsibly. They didn't. And
Speaker 2: I don't know of a single soul that I could
Speaker 2: put my finger on that I've ever met to think
Speaker 2: that that guy doesn't need to have a gun. Now.
Speaker 2: I don't know if the psyche of people has I'm
Speaker 2: sure has changed over the years. I mean, I graduated
Speaker 2: from high school in nineteen seventy eight. That was a
Speaker 2: long time ago, almost fifty years ago. But something has
Speaker 2: changed in the way people's minds work. I don't know,
Speaker 2: is it? You know they say that what half the
Speaker 2: population is on medications is that it? Is it environmental?
Speaker 2: Is it? Their parents didn't give a shit, so they
Speaker 2: don't It could be, you know, did it just progressively
Speaker 2: get more and more that people just didn't give a damn,
Speaker 2: and then it got worse and they didn't give more
Speaker 2: of a damn, And now we've got a bunch of
Speaker 2: people running around out there that give absolutely no damn whatsoever.
Speaker 2: Think I think the narcissistem in the narcissism in this
Speaker 2: country has gone through the ruth. You can look at
Speaker 2: thousands of people on any of the platforms that you want,
Speaker 2: and it's all about me, for me, me, me, me,
Speaker 2: me me.
Speaker 1: The primary concern always my opinion, not my knowledge, not
Speaker 1: my skill. My opinion is most important in all circumstances.
Speaker 1: One thing is what you see out there. But the
Speaker 1: other problem here with this, with this discussion, it's not
Speaker 1: always one or the other. Sometimes it could be a
Speaker 1: bunch of contributing factors, you know, and to me, that's
Speaker 1: the most logical answer. There's a bunch of contributing factors,
Speaker 1: but I really do feel as though the ignored key
Speaker 1: is this lack of value on human life. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's I know it sounds overgeneralized, but it's just I
Speaker 1: can't escape it. It's it's ultimately what justifies everything. And look,
Speaker 1: you want to go to, you know, clearly right wing violence. Okay,
Speaker 1: we could go to clearly right wing violence, we could
Speaker 1: go to clearly left wing violence. It's irrelevant because at
Speaker 1: some point in that equation, the target of that violence
Speaker 1: is not worthy of, you know, enjoying the philosophy of
Speaker 1: non aggression. They're not worthy of enjoying. They're allowed to live,
Speaker 1: they're allowed to not be injured, they're allowed to not
Speaker 1: be attacked, and they deserve that just by virtue of
Speaker 1: their existence, unless and the only way I see them
Speaker 1: surrendering that is if they choose to attack others in
Speaker 1: an unprovoked way. That's the only way. And in that case,
Speaker 1: you don't collectively punish others for that, You handle that individual.
Speaker 1: But our society is now working on this. No, I
Speaker 1: blame the entire group. I blame the entire commonality. I
Speaker 1: blame their tribe and now vengeance will be ours, you know.
Speaker 1: And that's the thing that just I can't wrap my
Speaker 1: mind around that. And I've had plenty of desires to
Speaker 1: go back at people who have harmed me, and I've
Speaker 1: done it, but I target them, you know, and I
Speaker 1: really try to refrain from even doing that. But I'm
Speaker 1: not a perfect person, and not saying that I have
Speaker 1: the you know, moral high ground necessarily, but I do
Speaker 1: believe I have the vision to see that there is
Speaker 1: a common problem here. Anyway, Let's let Jimmy speak for
Speaker 1: a bit because we're almost out of time and Age
Speaker 1: of Transitions is coming up at ten pm, so let's see.
Speaker 1: We got a few minutes left, and Jimmy, they're yours
Speaker 1: if you want them.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I was, uh what I said, I was gonna
Speaker 5: come out on the Kirk possessed less uh flexibly, Uh
Speaker 5: stuff up cubany Yeah, the Cuban situated, Well, it's big
Speaker 5: to me. I just don't think the cube the G
Speaker 5: two is evolved.
Speaker 1: No, I concur with you, it's not likely. Did Charlie
Speaker 1: Kirk thing though, did you, you know, instantly catch the
Speaker 1: video that went out there? I mean, there was so
Speaker 1: much video immediately and the stuff was ugly.
Speaker 2: Yah.
Speaker 5: It is this way. I I wish side would have
Speaker 5: known more about the guy. I really didn't know much
Speaker 5: at all about him at all, except I knew his
Speaker 5: I mean, in his face. I knew that South Park
Speaker 5: a few weeks ago Carbon was ray up to look
Speaker 5: like him, So I knew enough about him to know that. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I knew he was doing things at college campusites.
Speaker 1: You know what I had.
Speaker 5: I mean, I had no idea how successful he apparently
Speaker 5: was being college. I mean, there's a lot of college
Speaker 5: kids and people in their twenties and thirties who really
Speaker 5: like that guy. And he's actually a civil rights leader,
Speaker 5: is what he is. He mentioned MLK earlier. That'd be
Speaker 5: a good analogy. But from the things I'm reading the
Speaker 5: rule now, once did he yell at anyone yet not
Speaker 5: once did he call people names. And uh, he was
Speaker 5: a self proclaimed Christian, h evangelical, and he did he
Speaker 5: did just that. He was always spreading the Gospel of
Speaker 5: his Savior. And unlike Martin Luther King, I like uh,
Speaker 5: doctor Jesse Jackson, unlike the guy at MSNBC these days,
Speaker 5: this man clearly actually lived the life of a Christian.
Speaker 5: He lived a good life, he lived what he preached. Well,
Speaker 5: then I found that interesting. Yeah, and so I just
Speaker 5: wanted to say that even though I really didn't know
Speaker 5: much about him. I mean, I can see it saving
Speaker 5: a lot of people. It's some big deal.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, you know what's interesting to me is that
Speaker 1: there is a whole industry of people that are doing
Speaker 1: this thing that he was doing, and there are right
Speaker 1: wingers and there are a bunch of left wingers doing
Speaker 1: the same thing actually, and it's it's fascinating. South Park
Speaker 1: picking on him though he saw it and actually thought
Speaker 1: it was funny. You know, he did that that that's
Speaker 1: his published commentary on it. He thought it was funny
Speaker 1: and he thought actually he said something like, yeah, they
Speaker 1: kind of nailed it in a comical way. What I
Speaker 1: do I'm paraphrasing here, But you know, to his credit,
Speaker 1: I don't think the people that are attack in south
Speaker 1: Park and trying to blame south Park for his assassination
Speaker 1: or being rational or even attempting to live up to
Speaker 1: this guy. Seriously, wait, why let's say.
Speaker 5: I mean it was cute if they were to make
Speaker 5: cart went up to be me and run me into
Speaker 5: the ground.
Speaker 1: Listen, I would take any mod If somebody decided to
Speaker 1: mock me on South Park, I'd be happy as hell.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, And I don't care how they do it,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: I just got a quick note here. You mentioned the
Speaker 2: videos that were out there, and I happen to catch
Speaker 2: two the other night on UH on X. Regardless of
Speaker 2: what they say, I think Charlie Clark was dead when
Speaker 2: he hit the ground. Just looking at the video, there's
Speaker 2: a slow motion that someone zoomed in. It was more
Speaker 2: of a frontal shot with the camera and they zoomed
Speaker 2: in and you can actually see his T shirt. They
Speaker 2: slowed it down. You can almost frame by frame you
Speaker 2: can watch his T shirt move up where the bullet
Speaker 2: hit him in the chest and he was wearing a vest.
Speaker 2: It hit and ricocheted up into his neck. And based
Speaker 2: on the funny thing was I was on the net
Speaker 2: and somebody I saw a headline that said Charlie Kirk
Speaker 2: shooting at Utah University. So boom, I go on Twitter
Speaker 2: and I see it happen, and I thought, and the
Speaker 2: headline was, you know, critical condition. When I saw that shot,
Speaker 2: I thought, there's no way in hell he was dead.
Speaker 2: What was the maneuver that they the movement associated when
Speaker 2: Kennedy was shot, suppose through the throat and the reflexive
Speaker 2: active action that they talked about, his arms coming up,
Speaker 2: his elbows coming up.
Speaker 1: That hole. Yeah, that's that that thing that they proved
Speaker 1: by shooting the goat in the head. That deal.
Speaker 2: If you watched that video of Charlie Kirk, you see
Speaker 2: exactly what they were talking about. He got hit. It
Speaker 2: hit him in the neck. He's bleeding like somebody cut
Speaker 2: his throat. His arms go up part way, he could
Speaker 2: even get to grab his throat, and he was falling
Speaker 2: over out of the chair. And I'll be curious to
Speaker 2: see what the autopsy turns up. I'm wondering if it
Speaker 2: did ricochet but also went through his fine.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know about the ricochet, but the wound
Speaker 1: to his neck is clear and he exsanguinates quickly.
Speaker 2: Oh he was, That's what I'm saying. I think he
Speaker 2: was dead when he hit the ground.
Speaker 1: See, I don't know quick He may have survived a
Speaker 1: little beyond that, but not much.
Speaker 2: I mean, there was it was couldn't have been seconds
Speaker 2: that hit And when you look at the amount of
Speaker 2: blood coming out when he falls over. There's another shot
Speaker 2: from the side that shows that I was a medic
Speaker 2: in the army. You don't survive that shot. I don't
Speaker 2: care how you pack somebody's neck wound. He's already bled out. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you bled out when he hit the ground.
Speaker 1: You can almost not even if you're right there, you
Speaker 1: can't react quickly enough to stop the speed of that spurt.
Speaker 1: That's the truth.
Speaker 2: I think it not only got his juggler vein, but
Speaker 2: it got his the He got his artery too. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he got his vein and the artery. It hit both
Speaker 2: of them.
Speaker 1: Look, I agree with you, and I think it took
Speaker 1: a chunk right out and it was going to be
Speaker 1: impossible to stop enough of that bleeding in time.
Speaker 2: Well, this is something that's come out since I was
Speaker 2: in these ballistic packs that they have now you can
Speaker 2: take those things there. It's a ballistic packs full of jail,
Speaker 2: and you shove it in a mood and it immediately
Speaker 2: starts coagulating everything. There's no way even with a truckload
Speaker 2: of those. Like I said, when he hit the ground,
Speaker 2: he was gone and there's nothing you could have done
Speaker 2: to save him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, you really don't think so you can bleed
Speaker 1: to death in a handful of seconds with that rate
Speaker 1: of you know, with that rate of him gushing like
Speaker 1: he was. I mean, I hate to say it, but
Speaker 1: that's what we're looking at there.
Speaker 2: As soon as I saw it, and then I immediately
Speaker 2: do a search and google the first thing. No, it
Speaker 2: was the second listing said that he had already died,
Speaker 2: and I thought, well, of course, there ain't no damn
Speaker 2: wayam people thinking he can make it through that will?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 5: Right?
Speaker 1: No, I thought, there's no way he's saved that. Even
Speaker 1: though they were like, oh, pray for them and all that,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, that's it's already done. I agree
Speaker 1: with you there, but I didn't understand that part of
Speaker 1: it either, to be honest with you. But anyway, look,
Speaker 1: I don't understand a lot of things in the world,
Speaker 1: especially how fast time flies. So we're all done for
Speaker 1: this week, but we'll do it again next week. I
Speaker 1: might just start the call in show early next week.
Speaker 1: Maybe that would be easier. And that way you can
Speaker 1: just jump on with me, you know, And that way,
Speaker 1: if I want to do a little pre news, you
Speaker 1: just jump on at eight o'clock and boom, we roll.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do that next week. I want to thank
Speaker 1: Jimmy for calling in. I want to thank you guys
Speaker 1: for listening, and obviously, you know, if you're catching the podcast,
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. And you know, look, we need to
Speaker 1: take better care of each other. We need to not
Speaker 1: seek to have enemies that are just worthy of having
Speaker 1: their lives snatched from them. And the fact that a
Speaker 1: young man bleeds out in five seconds because somebody decided
Speaker 1: to shoot him, no, I don't support that, even if
Speaker 1: I have zero zero support for the guy's political view,
Speaker 1: which I didn't. I actually agreed with a couple of
Speaker 1: things he had to say. But you know, was he
Speaker 1: a saint. I hate it when people are risen up
Speaker 1: as you know, these posthumous saints, I really do, because
Speaker 1: it never speaks to their true character. But this guy
Speaker 1: is also not a one dimensional figure. And you know, again,
Speaker 1: the fact that he took you know, the South Park
Speaker 1: mocking without screaming that you know, those liberals need to
Speaker 1: be gotten rid of or shut down, tells you something. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I leave it at that. I leave it to your judgment.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately I'm not in control of the world. So Anyway,
Speaker 1: DPE thanks again, and like I said, Aaron Franz is
Speaker 1: coming up next. So Eli, all of you are the
Speaker 1: effect