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Today, 46 00:02:14.840 --> 00:02:18.639 myself and co host from Back in the Day special 47 00:02:18.639 --> 00:02:22.199 guest extraordinary mister Paul Hoppey, are here to talk about 48 00:02:22.280 --> 00:02:26.439 Cobra Kai Season six, Part two, the show that keeps 49 00:02:26.520 --> 00:02:29.319 jumping the shark and finding new sharks to jump, and 50 00:02:29.400 --> 00:02:32.520 every time we think it's gone truly ridiculous, it says, 51 00:02:32.879 --> 00:02:33.919 hold my beer. 52 00:02:34.039 --> 00:02:34.599 What do you think? 53 00:02:35.000 --> 00:02:36.719 I let me just start by saying, we're just gonna 54 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:40.639 jump right in. We're gonna have lots of spoilers. As 55 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:42.400 far as I can tell, a lot of people really 56 00:02:42.439 --> 00:02:46.319 love this section of the show, this part two of 57 00:02:46.360 --> 00:02:46.759 a season. 58 00:02:47.280 --> 00:02:48.400 I enjoyed a lot of it. 59 00:02:48.479 --> 00:02:51.960 Okay, okay, okay, sure, sure, but not in quite the 60 00:02:52.000 --> 00:02:54.479 same like, oh this is quality television way that I 61 00:02:54.560 --> 00:02:57.520 might have enjoyed season one. We've not talked, we've actually 62 00:02:57.520 --> 00:02:59.400 shared much of our opinions about this. I think though 63 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:00.960 we're gonna be most on the same page. But let 64 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:04.000 me just say, Paul, so full spoilers, Paul, what's your 65 00:03:04.039 --> 00:03:04.800 kind of overall thought? 66 00:03:04.960 --> 00:03:06.120 And for those who haven't seen it. 67 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:07.759 Don't worry, we'll give you kind of a summary, but 68 00:03:07.879 --> 00:03:11.400 just Paul, part two of a sure. 69 00:03:11.680 --> 00:03:14.680 So, first of all, it's master Paul Hoppy. I don't 70 00:03:14.719 --> 00:03:16.680 like the word mister in general. And we're talking about 71 00:03:16.719 --> 00:03:20.599 martial arts. So you know, we're just gonna We're just 72 00:03:20.639 --> 00:03:24.360 gonna start there because half of what I have to 73 00:03:24.360 --> 00:03:28.439 say is like as a martial artist, very mixed feelings 74 00:03:28.439 --> 00:03:36.400 here because there were some spectacular displays of athleticism and technique. 75 00:03:36.840 --> 00:03:40.879 Most of it wasn't karate, and I'm pretty sure it 76 00:03:40.919 --> 00:03:45.000 is actually a karate tournament or kr they but like, 77 00:03:46.000 --> 00:03:49.319 you know, you've got a Brazilian team doing kapowera, You've 78 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:53.719 got just just peep there, everyone's just doing. Most of 79 00:03:53.719 --> 00:03:56.199 them are doing taekwondo, Like, let's face it, as a 80 00:03:56.199 --> 00:03:59.400 as a taekwondo practitioner, like I know a bunch of them, 81 00:03:59.439 --> 00:04:01.560 like they trained in taekwondo. You know, I don't mean 82 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.360 I know them. I just mean, like, so on the 83 00:04:04.400 --> 00:04:08.840 martial arts front, super not faithful to like what I 84 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:11.840 would want to see out of a show about martial arts. 85 00:04:12.159 --> 00:04:15.120 But in terms of the actual choreography and stunts, some 86 00:04:15.280 --> 00:04:17.120 of it was awesome for sure. 87 00:04:17.480 --> 00:04:21.399 Yeah, I will say they to add to the cast, 88 00:04:21.600 --> 00:04:25.160 they got a couple of very well known martial artists, 89 00:04:25.199 --> 00:04:26.759 some of who have been already been trying to like 90 00:04:26.800 --> 00:04:29.519 develop acting careers. Others were just well known martial artists. 91 00:04:30.800 --> 00:04:34.920 They forgot to give them characters with any development besides 92 00:04:34.959 --> 00:04:37.519 two two diventions. But you know, there were some great 93 00:04:37.519 --> 00:04:38.279 martial arts scenes. 94 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:44.959 Yeah, So as a writer, I felt that, you know, 95 00:04:45.759 --> 00:04:55.040 like brand is it Brandon h Lee? I think, right, yeah, 96 00:04:55.079 --> 00:04:57.040 I'm just I know he has a middle initial. Okay, 97 00:04:57.079 --> 00:05:05.879 it's h Brandon h Lee. And what's your name? Reina Valandingham? 98 00:05:07.560 --> 00:05:09.959 I think I tried to listen to a couple of times. 99 00:05:09.560 --> 00:05:14.279 If I haven't heard any interviews or anything, but are 100 00:05:14.319 --> 00:05:18.759 both outstanding martial artists and totally bring it on the mat. 101 00:05:19.839 --> 00:05:23.319 As far as acting chops, I don't even know, Like 102 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:30.240 just the writing did not give them really anything to 103 00:05:30.319 --> 00:05:36.720 work with. And for other characters, seeing you know, characters 104 00:05:36.720 --> 00:05:41.519 who I've seen be well acted at points, I just 105 00:05:41.560 --> 00:05:45.160 felt like the writing was like, you know, you talked 106 00:05:45.160 --> 00:05:49.560 about jumping the shark. I feel like I always felt 107 00:05:49.600 --> 00:05:51.240 like the series was kind of there, but I do 108 00:05:51.279 --> 00:05:52.920 think it was kind of They jumped to the balcony 109 00:05:53.000 --> 00:05:55.879 railing at the end of season two, but here I 110 00:05:55.920 --> 00:05:59.439 think they jarked. They jumped the shark Nado like. 111 00:06:00.079 --> 00:06:02.199 See I actually am gonna say something else. 112 00:06:02.319 --> 00:06:06.959 I think jump the shark is something that occurred because 113 00:06:07.040 --> 00:06:10.040 in an episode of like late seasons of Happy Days, 114 00:06:10.920 --> 00:06:14.120 the character of Fonzie was skiing and jumped over a shark, 115 00:06:14.519 --> 00:06:17.759 and that people like this show has just gone and 116 00:06:17.839 --> 00:06:21.560 so for decades now, the term jumping the shark has 117 00:06:21.600 --> 00:06:24.160 been used from when the show has just gone far 118 00:06:24.240 --> 00:06:29.079 beyond any ability to call it realistic in any or anything. 119 00:06:30.160 --> 00:06:32.800 I think it's time to retire the term jump in 120 00:06:33.040 --> 00:06:36.040 I'm with you, I don't think. I don't think shows 121 00:06:36.120 --> 00:06:39.079 jump the shark anymore. I think they fall on their 122 00:06:39.079 --> 00:06:42.560 own knife. Because a character at the end of this 123 00:06:43.680 --> 00:06:48.240 in one of the most ridiculously convoluted, idiotic chains of events, 124 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:56.199 presumably dies or possibly just massively by attempting a running 125 00:06:56.360 --> 00:07:01.079 jumping attack while holding a knife, misses and falls on 126 00:07:01.120 --> 00:07:04.360 his own knife. So that's my new term. The show 127 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:07.639 didn't jump the shark. This has not only dumped the shark, 128 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:10.079 this has created a new term. 129 00:07:10.920 --> 00:07:14.800 Yeah, and because it's it's self inflicted, like the injuries 130 00:07:14.800 --> 00:07:19.000 that this show does to itself. I felt when when 131 00:07:19.120 --> 00:07:23.600 the whole tournament, like I guess we're starting with the end, right. 132 00:07:23.839 --> 00:07:25.439 Well, what why don't I actually give a plot? 133 00:07:25.639 --> 00:07:28.279 Sure, yeah, so go for it. 134 00:07:29.839 --> 00:07:32.360 Try try. 135 00:07:32.480 --> 00:07:36.399 So we are at the Setai Tai Kai, which is 136 00:07:37.560 --> 00:07:40.399 I believe we're supposed to think in this part the 137 00:07:40.480 --> 00:07:43.560 greatest karate tournament in the world. It was referred to 138 00:07:43.600 --> 00:07:46.279 at times in Part one, I believe as a fighting tournament, 139 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.199 so some of the like everyone fighting more in line 140 00:07:50.240 --> 00:07:53.399 with their national fighting style, although the Irish team didn't 141 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:56.360 break beer pints and fight with those, so it's not 142 00:07:56.439 --> 00:08:01.240 quite that. But now it's described as a tournament, and 143 00:08:01.279 --> 00:08:03.600 we learned that all of our heroes are on Miagi Doo, 144 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:09.399 Danny and Johnny are leading the team together, but Torri 145 00:08:09.680 --> 00:08:13.800 has betrayed the team and shown up with Cobra Kai, 146 00:08:14.279 --> 00:08:17.519 and Cobra Kai is now being led by John Crease 147 00:08:17.680 --> 00:08:22.160 as always. And also the Dragon Lady forgive me. I 148 00:08:22.199 --> 00:08:25.079 mean her character does have a name, if a very 149 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:27.160 one dimensional characterization. 150 00:08:29.800 --> 00:08:31.959 The term dragon lady kind of offensive, and I know 151 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:36.360 it's intended to refer to a role type that is offensive, 152 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.440 but I actually think it's I think it's time to 153 00:08:39.480 --> 00:08:42.279 retire the term. The way I think Mary Sue is 154 00:08:42.320 --> 00:08:45.679 not really a constructive thing. But I know, the point 155 00:08:45.720 --> 00:08:49.600 being that the character doesn't really get a ton of depth. 156 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:51.559 But I do actually feel like there's a little bit 157 00:08:51.600 --> 00:08:53.879 more there here. 158 00:08:54.039 --> 00:08:55.519 There's much more than some other characters. 159 00:08:55.559 --> 00:08:57.759 Yeah, what I meant is that like she falls into 160 00:08:57.840 --> 00:09:03.440 a lot of the stereotype of the sexy, villainous Asian woman, 161 00:09:04.120 --> 00:09:05.360 uh and how she's presented. 162 00:09:05.399 --> 00:09:07.159 But yeah, I agree that probably a poor term use 163 00:09:07.200 --> 00:09:07.919 of my my part. 164 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:11.000 My apologies there, but so so, and we're trying to 165 00:09:11.000 --> 00:09:13.759 figure out why Torri is doing this, and everyone's upset. 166 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:17.519 No one's acknowledging what we talked about h in terms 167 00:09:17.519 --> 00:09:19.440 of the last part where we thought that maybe actually 168 00:09:19.440 --> 00:09:21.840 she should have been allowed to decide how she wants 169 00:09:21.840 --> 00:09:23.480 to deal with the grief of the death of her mother. 170 00:09:24.360 --> 00:09:26.679 No one's taking accountability for that. We're just mad at her. 171 00:09:27.720 --> 00:09:30.440 And we're starting this great fighting tournament with tea from 172 00:09:30.480 --> 00:09:33.440 teams from all over the world, primarily Europe, which we 173 00:09:33.519 --> 00:09:36.519 see which we all know is a hotbed of karate 174 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:39.840 and martial arts, although there are there is the team 175 00:09:39.840 --> 00:09:43.720 from mostly Korea. There's I had not realized this until recently, 176 00:09:43.720 --> 00:09:46.159 but the Iron Dragons, which the team that becomes important 177 00:09:46.240 --> 00:09:48.519 is from Hong Kong, even though I don't think either 178 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:53.679 of the main stars of it are Chinese themselves, but 179 00:09:53.679 --> 00:10:02.720 we have fights, and some of the fights, right lewis Tan, right, 180 00:10:03.600 --> 00:10:06.000 we have some really interesting fights. A lot of them 181 00:10:06.120 --> 00:10:09.840 are these kind of group fighting challenges that are designed 182 00:10:09.879 --> 00:10:12.480 where it's like two on two or it's like a 183 00:10:12.519 --> 00:10:15.200 tag in tag out thing, or it's like knock people 184 00:10:15.240 --> 00:10:17.240 off of these kind of high rise things. 185 00:10:17.360 --> 00:10:19.000 American gladiators. 186 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:21.360 It's basically American ladiers with karate. 187 00:10:21.440 --> 00:10:23.600 It does allow for cross gender fighting, which we kind 188 00:10:23.600 --> 00:10:25.639 of talked before about like kind of you know, it 189 00:10:25.720 --> 00:10:27.240 being interesting how it was divided, So it was kind 190 00:10:27.240 --> 00:10:32.039 of fun that that was allowed. And it turns out 191 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:34.120 that one of the teams that everyone's really threatened by 192 00:10:34.240 --> 00:10:37.399 is the Iron Dragons, which is this team that I 193 00:10:37.559 --> 00:10:40.000 risually thought was from Barcelona themselves, which is where it's 194 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:43.360 all taking place. Apparently the Barcelona Tourist Board I think 195 00:10:43.399 --> 00:10:45.519 like paid them to come because they're just lots of 196 00:10:45.519 --> 00:10:48.519 shots that remind you that Barcelona is a really great city. 197 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.840 The training montage involves them going to all of these 198 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:55.120 wonderful tourists spots. Ye that I was just tourist. Bud 199 00:10:55.200 --> 00:10:58.080 got the money's worth. But anyway, so fight fight fight. 200 00:10:58.320 --> 00:11:00.759 Iron Dragons are now a threat. Cobra cause the threat. 201 00:11:01.279 --> 00:11:03.879 Danny LaRusso gets kidnapped and locked in a cage. 202 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.080 What are we doing? What are we doing? 203 00:11:08.440 --> 00:11:12.080 Because he's chasing down the legacy of Miyagi. He assumes 204 00:11:12.120 --> 00:11:14.720 that Chris is doing this, but it turns out it's 205 00:11:14.759 --> 00:11:15.279 not Crease. 206 00:11:15.399 --> 00:11:16.399 It's our old friend. 207 00:11:16.440 --> 00:11:19.039 Because no one stays dead, no one stays in jail, 208 00:11:19.440 --> 00:11:20.840 no one ever stays off the board. 209 00:11:20.840 --> 00:11:25.879 For long John, Long John Silver, it's just Silver. I don't, 210 00:11:25.879 --> 00:11:27.679 I don't, I don't, I don't even care. I don't 211 00:11:27.679 --> 00:11:28.879 even want to remember his name. 212 00:11:29.399 --> 00:11:31.200 It's just Silver. He's back. 213 00:11:32.720 --> 00:11:36.120 There's apparently like an Asian guy who is working as 214 00:11:36.240 --> 00:11:40.519 kind of like a henchman for Cobra Kai in the 215 00:11:40.600 --> 00:11:44.480 second or third movie and Danny Russo beats him up. 216 00:11:44.840 --> 00:11:49.159 He's back as as a thug for Silver. 217 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:51.039 Terry Silver, Silver. 218 00:11:51.120 --> 00:11:56.399 Terry Silver, that's it, Terry Silver, Thank you chosen his back? 219 00:11:56.519 --> 00:12:02.240 The guy who uh Janny fall in season two and 220 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.399 sorry in the second Karate Kid movie. Like lots of 221 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:10.159 people are back Shenanigan's happen. Teenagers try to date each other, 222 00:12:10.279 --> 00:12:11.000 try to keep their. 223 00:12:10.919 --> 00:12:13.960 Relationships, arguably sexually assault one another. 224 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:17.399 Arguably sexually assault one another. The questions of who is 225 00:12:17.480 --> 00:12:19.919 drunk and who is not, and who can give consent 226 00:12:20.240 --> 00:12:23.679 is raised, but the show doesn't seem to understand that 227 00:12:23.720 --> 00:12:25.919 it's raising them in a way that's kind of problematic. 228 00:12:26.000 --> 00:12:28.000 The show doesn't seem very interested in it. 229 00:12:28.799 --> 00:12:33.360 No, none at all, although I think we'll talk about that. 230 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:35.960 Could come back. We'll see, I guess. 231 00:12:36.360 --> 00:12:38.799 And just get introduced to a lot of these characters 232 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:41.799 who are very one dimensional. So one of those characters 233 00:12:42.000 --> 00:12:47.440 is Zara played by Raina Valringham. I think incredible martial artist, 234 00:12:48.320 --> 00:12:50.240 and she might be a very good actress. I have 235 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:54.759 no idea, because her character is a mean girl, like, 236 00:12:54.919 --> 00:12:57.399 not a well developed character like Regina George, just a 237 00:12:57.440 --> 00:13:00.919 straight up mean girl who's also an influencer who spends 238 00:13:00.960 --> 00:13:03.919 all of her time when she's not fighting, being very 239 00:13:03.960 --> 00:13:07.679 flirty and being on Instagram or some Instagram like thing. 240 00:13:07.720 --> 00:13:10.759 Because she's an influencer talking down everyone around her. 241 00:13:10.679 --> 00:13:13.279 Which the actress actually is as well. Apparently she has 242 00:13:13.320 --> 00:13:16.600 like five million followers right like TikTok and Instagram or what. 243 00:13:17.200 --> 00:13:20.080 Right, But I don't think most of her content revolves 244 00:13:20.080 --> 00:13:22.000 around like can she steal the boyfriend of this guy 245 00:13:22.000 --> 00:13:22.440 from this? 246 00:13:23.039 --> 00:13:23.240 Yeah? 247 00:13:23.360 --> 00:13:25.639 Yeah, I hope not. I think it's I think it's 248 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:27.159 martial arts related, you know. 249 00:13:27.960 --> 00:13:29.440 I think she knows the modeling and stuff and that 250 00:13:29.759 --> 00:13:33.159 looks very good at it. So but yeah, so there's 251 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:36.919 a whole plot line there, and Robbie uh drinks the 252 00:13:36.919 --> 00:13:39.840 first time and gets very drunk and then wakes up 253 00:13:39.879 --> 00:13:42.720 in her room and kind of she kisses him on 254 00:13:42.759 --> 00:13:44.600 the way out, and he kind of kisses her back, 255 00:13:44.639 --> 00:13:45.840 but it's kind of just out of it. 256 00:13:46.039 --> 00:13:48.720 He literally says, I don't remember what happened last night? 257 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:50.240 Right right? 258 00:13:50.279 --> 00:13:51.879 In terms of that, I mean, I'm saying when he 259 00:13:51.960 --> 00:13:54.600 kisses her, she he doesn't like push her away or that, 260 00:13:55.159 --> 00:13:58.600 but he definitely seems kind of like very confused about things, 261 00:13:59.440 --> 00:14:01.240 which again the kind of like did she take advantage 262 00:14:01.320 --> 00:14:05.399 him while drunk? That certainly seems the implification here, and 263 00:14:05.440 --> 00:14:07.440 I hope that that's brought in some way, but not sure. 264 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.679 But of course, with perfect timing, Tori sees that happen 265 00:14:11.080 --> 00:14:13.120 Torri had broken up with him, but sort of but 266 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:16.120 not really but yes, but no, but she's upset about 267 00:14:16.120 --> 00:14:18.559 it because they're only taking a break. It all sounds 268 00:14:18.639 --> 00:14:23.320 ridiculous and convoluted. Yes, that's the point. Meanwhile, also, the 269 00:14:23.399 --> 00:14:29.480 character played by Brandon initial league aish Lee, thank you. 270 00:14:30.519 --> 00:14:32.440 He's the one who plays the guy from Korea, right, 271 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.919 Hongkan fist. 272 00:14:35.080 --> 00:14:37.480 I don't know whether it literally means fist in that 273 00:14:37.639 --> 00:14:40.600 particular instance of it, if that's the idea, but yeah. 274 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:44.840 I think And again, if the writers to decide how 275 00:14:44.840 --> 00:14:48.399 to write Zara, just watch the movie Mean Girls a 276 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:51.000 lot to write his character. I think they just watched 277 00:14:51.039 --> 00:14:53.559 like nineteen eighties high school movies and high school bullies 278 00:14:53.600 --> 00:14:56.799 a lot because he's basically playing Johnny. 279 00:14:56.840 --> 00:14:58.200 So they watched the Karate Kid. 280 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.480 Yeah. All he does is be like, oh, I am 281 00:15:01.519 --> 00:15:04.440 better than you. I will bet my hotel room against yours. 282 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:06.559 I don't yeah, I don't know why that's what you 283 00:15:06.600 --> 00:15:08.799 would go to wager, Like what, There's so many other 284 00:15:08.840 --> 00:15:09.440 things to bet. 285 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:13.360 He flirts with Tory, and he mocks the people who 286 00:15:13.360 --> 00:15:17.000 he beats by being an incredible martial artist. And meanwhile, 287 00:15:17.120 --> 00:15:19.480 the other guy from the Iron Dragons team kind of 288 00:15:19.480 --> 00:15:22.399 has a crush on Sammy, but Sammy of course has 289 00:15:22.399 --> 00:15:24.000 a boyfriend, and then he gets really mad at the 290 00:15:24.039 --> 00:15:27.720 boyfriend because apparently teenagers aren't capable of having. 291 00:15:27.639 --> 00:15:30.360 Any kind of rational emotions in these TV shows. 292 00:15:30.399 --> 00:15:33.519 Yeah, I mean, in fairness, Yeah, I. 293 00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:38.039 Think there's a little bit more rationality possible, but. 294 00:15:39.960 --> 00:15:41.360 It's it's just not always there. 295 00:15:42.360 --> 00:15:45.759 It makes again, the show just feel incredibly unbalanced because 296 00:15:45.759 --> 00:15:48.799 half the show is, oh my gosh, can we win 297 00:15:48.840 --> 00:15:50.000 this high school tournament? 298 00:15:50.440 --> 00:15:52.200 Who do we like? Who do we want to date? 299 00:15:52.600 --> 00:15:56.240 And the other half is mister Miyagi killed someone right 300 00:15:56.919 --> 00:15:59.759 in the tournament way back in the day, and of 301 00:15:59.799 --> 00:16:03.600 the is getting kidnapped and Crease wants to kill Silver 302 00:16:03.720 --> 00:16:08.879 with a knife and then said knife exactly. 303 00:16:08.960 --> 00:16:09.279 Yeah. 304 00:16:09.360 --> 00:16:13.399 So so there's a couple other plot twists there's uh So, 305 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:18.360 it just felt incredibly lazy writing throughout the entire thing, 306 00:16:18.559 --> 00:16:22.399 like every bad stereotype you could go through all the 307 00:16:22.440 --> 00:16:26.279 way too. There's a Russian team that because Cobra Kai 308 00:16:26.320 --> 00:16:29.399 originally gets eliminated but then has to get brought back 309 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:31.919 and how do they do that? The Russian team is 310 00:16:32.000 --> 00:16:38.600 caught taking performance enhancing drugs, Yeah, which causes the Russians 311 00:16:38.600 --> 00:16:41.600 to go utterly ape shit, and right when the actual 312 00:16:42.159 --> 00:16:45.200 one on one matches are supposed to start, the Russian 313 00:16:45.240 --> 00:16:49.320 coach knocks out the German head of the Federation and 314 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:52.039 then just all hell breaks loose, and honestly, I was 315 00:16:52.039 --> 00:16:55.559 gonna say, jump the shark has been replaced with a 316 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.559 royal rumble on at the Psychai Tai Chai until the 317 00:16:58.600 --> 00:16:59.200 kid fell. 318 00:16:59.039 --> 00:16:59.840 On the knife. 319 00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:02.879 So that's the plot summary. 320 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:08.279 Yeah, so starting at the end, not the end end, 321 00:17:08.319 --> 00:17:13.200 but the last episode. I actually when they were just like, okay, 322 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.400 forget all this, We're just gonna have everybody fight everybody, 323 00:17:16.200 --> 00:17:21.440 I was like, Ah, they've accepted what they are, you 324 00:17:21.480 --> 00:17:25.319 know where I remember one of the ridiculous fight scenes 325 00:17:25.359 --> 00:17:28.640 that maybe it was the Larusso's house, I'm not sure. 326 00:17:30.200 --> 00:17:32.279 And at the end of one season, one of the 327 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:35.200 season finales, I remember we might have had a split 328 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:36.960 feelings about it, I'm not sure, but I was kind 329 00:17:37.000 --> 00:17:41.039 of like, they're just fighting. That's fine, Like this is 330 00:17:41.079 --> 00:17:44.319 where we are, you know, like instead of having these 331 00:17:44.359 --> 00:17:47.480 little individual reasons for everybody wanting to fight each other 332 00:17:47.640 --> 00:17:50.799 and like there's these like rational things, it's just like 333 00:17:51.000 --> 00:17:53.480 all right, just everybody fight, you know, and it's like, 334 00:17:53.519 --> 00:17:55.720 that's just how they're going to end a season, or 335 00:17:56.200 --> 00:17:58.160 I guess in this instance, that's how they're going to 336 00:17:58.319 --> 00:18:04.240 end a you know, a half season, third season. What 337 00:18:04.279 --> 00:18:08.000 are they doing? What are we doing with these part seasons? 338 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:09.559 Just call it another seas. 339 00:18:09.480 --> 00:18:12.079 Like I go, stretching it out as much as. 340 00:18:11.920 --> 00:18:14.480 We started this. I know, Stranger Things did Breaking Bad. 341 00:18:14.519 --> 00:18:16.599 I blame Breaking Bad. That's the first one I remember. 342 00:18:16.759 --> 00:18:19.119 No, I think it actually started because the writers strike, 343 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.599 not the recent one, but the one, uh like fifteen 344 00:18:21.680 --> 00:18:24.440 years ago, because that caused a lot of like part one, 345 00:18:24.519 --> 00:18:27.440 part two of seasons for like legit reasons, and then 346 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.000 after that a lot of people were like, oh, hey, 347 00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:29.799 that was kind of cool. 348 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:31.400 Double the marketing, double the money. 349 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:34.519 Maybe maybe that was like almost twenty years ago now, 350 00:18:34.559 --> 00:18:37.400 right that writer's strike, I think, I think so, yeah, 351 00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.720 But yeah, I know Breaking Bad used the we're gonna 352 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:42.240 split season six into two half seasons, and it's like, 353 00:18:42.880 --> 00:18:45.920 why isn't it season six and seven? And also, you know, 354 00:18:46.039 --> 00:18:48.599 going back further, I blame Quentin Tarantino with Kill Bill 355 00:18:48.599 --> 00:18:52.920 one and two. But whatever, anyway, I digress. So I 356 00:18:53.039 --> 00:18:55.640 actually once they just started fighting each other. I was like, 357 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:59.319 all right, whatever, like it's cool, Like let's just watch 358 00:18:59.359 --> 00:19:03.480 some stunts, you know. And so that, like I was like, 359 00:19:03.519 --> 00:19:08.480 this is obviously ridiculous, but at least it's ridiculous without 360 00:19:08.519 --> 00:19:12.200 a bunch of dialogue, you know. And one part that 361 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:14.920 you glossed over in the or that you you left 362 00:19:14.960 --> 00:19:22.359 out of the extraordinarily unnecessarily complicated plot was the whole 363 00:19:22.400 --> 00:19:27.680 thing with Devin uh not poisoning, but like drugging Kenny 364 00:19:27.759 --> 00:19:32.240 basically so that he had to yeah, and then admitting 365 00:19:32.279 --> 00:19:35.400 what she'd done. And Kenny was already on the way 366 00:19:35.440 --> 00:19:38.880 to come back because Miguel and Johnny were gonna go 367 00:19:39.000 --> 00:19:43.400 back because Carmen was maybe dying, and then she was 368 00:19:43.559 --> 00:19:45.240 just fine and was like, oh no, go back and 369 00:19:45.279 --> 00:19:49.200 do karate boys. And actually that maybe had some of 370 00:19:49.200 --> 00:19:52.240 my favorite moments, even though the whole thing was ridiculous, 371 00:19:52.319 --> 00:19:55.319 just like the Johnny and Miguel dynamic I do believe 372 00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:59.599 is the heart of this show, you know. And and 373 00:19:59.640 --> 00:20:02.079 so it was like we get maybe five minutes of 374 00:20:02.119 --> 00:20:04.240 what made this show worth watching to me in the 375 00:20:04.240 --> 00:20:08.799 first place. But but then Devin and Kenny kind of 376 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.279 like they're kind of cool with each other, and then 377 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.000 they fight together, not against each other, but together as 378 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:17.079 a team against a bunch of people, like going up 379 00:20:17.759 --> 00:20:20.000 levels in hystericcase. I don't I don't even know what 380 00:20:20.039 --> 00:20:22.680 was happening, like in terms of like why is who 381 00:20:22.720 --> 00:20:25.960 going where? Or whatever? Like, I thought it was cool 382 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:28.880 that at least they gave those two characters a little 383 00:20:28.920 --> 00:20:32.119 bit of their two in terms of, like, you know, 384 00:20:32.680 --> 00:20:35.039 I wasn't crazy about the way they'd handled either of them, 385 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:38.839 and just at least letting them kind of have that 386 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.960 fight there I thought was cool. Not like total redemption 387 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:45.279 or anything for the show or the writers, but like 388 00:20:45.720 --> 00:20:48.160 that was nice and I. 389 00:20:48.119 --> 00:20:48.839 Did like that. 390 00:20:49.039 --> 00:20:53.160 So, yeah, as Paul said, we find out that Karmen's 391 00:20:53.200 --> 00:20:56.400 been pregnant this whole time. Carmen is Miguel's mother. Also, 392 00:20:56.440 --> 00:20:58.720 I think she's now married to Johnny Ort least certainly there. 393 00:20:58.640 --> 00:21:01.680 There were either engaged, sure that they have a kid 394 00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:03.799 coming in Yes, right, I mean. 395 00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:06.960 She's right, he's the father, clearly, and everyone's happy about that, 396 00:21:07.880 --> 00:21:09.920 and she gets like something happens. They get a call 397 00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:13.759 from the doctors, and so Miguel and Johnny jump on 398 00:21:13.799 --> 00:21:16.480 a plane and then as you said, get there and 399 00:21:16.519 --> 00:21:19.720 then go right back, which is, by the way I 400 00:21:19.720 --> 00:21:23.680 looked it up, Barcelona to LA that's fourteen hour flights. 401 00:21:23.680 --> 00:21:24.160