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<v Speaker 1>The Lapsed Fan presents Under the Cinemat. Yeah, I love

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<v Speaker 1>to talk film. I have come here to chew bubble

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<v Speaker 1>gum and kick out they break go you're going nowhere

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<v Speaker 1>under the Cinematt, I pick up guns. Bad things happen

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<v Speaker 1>to people. I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 2>We have a movie to make. Can We don't pull

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<v Speaker 2>together here.

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<v Speaker 1>To make movies. Here at the Lapsed Fan, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>do interviews that often, and when we do, it's usually

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<v Speaker 1>for a special reason, and for Under the Cinemat. The

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<v Speaker 1>reason usually is because we can't find the information we

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<v Speaker 1>need about somebody. And that's what happened when we looked

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<v Speaker 1>into Spotlight and it's wrestling connection. That connection is a

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<v Speaker 1>person named Glenn Kine who was a referee for many

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<v Speaker 1>independent promotions in the New England area and other places.

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<v Speaker 1>And we sought him out and we found him and

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<v Speaker 1>I am so thrilled to introduce to you into the

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<v Speaker 1>Lapse Stand Solar System. Glenn kin Welcome, sir, Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, thank you very much for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I got to ask you right off the bat,

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<v Speaker 1>this is the most important thing. How did you get

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<v Speaker 1>involved as a professional wrestling referee?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, It's kind of an interesting story because I started

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<v Speaker 2>out in film. I was working as an extra in

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<v Speaker 2>Boston and happened to meet some other fellow actors who

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<v Speaker 2>invited me out to their wrestling promotion. They said, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>come out and watch us wrestle. And I've been a

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<v Speaker 2>longtime wrestling fan all my life, you know, way back

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<v Speaker 2>to the days in WWE. So I went out to

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<v Speaker 2>their event and took my camera with me and took

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<v Speaker 2>pictures of my friends, and one of the wrestling trainers

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<v Speaker 2>that ran a wrestling school liked my pictures so much

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<v Speaker 2>he said, hey, if you'll come and take pictures, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>train you if you want to come and just work out,

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<v Speaker 2>and I said, sure, I'll come and work out, like.

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<v Speaker 1>To get to get in the ring, like to actually wrestle.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to get a quote unquote workout in. And then

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<v Speaker 2>they came time when they were trying to promote an

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<v Speaker 2>upcoming event at an outdoor as weird as it sounds,

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<v Speaker 2>flea market, and they didn't have a referee show up,

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<v Speaker 2>so I was thrust into the ring with no actual

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<v Speaker 2>preparation to be a professional ref and finished. The event

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<v Speaker 2>was about eight matches and some of the wrestlers came

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<v Speaker 2>up to me and said, Wow, how long have you

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<v Speaker 2>been doing this? I went never.

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<v Speaker 1>That.

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<v Speaker 2>They were like, you couldn't have You can't possibly have

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<v Speaker 2>never been a professional wrestling referee before because you did

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<v Speaker 2>everything you're supposed to. You're supposed to be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the story, but not in it, right. And from that

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<v Speaker 2>point forward I started training to be a professional wrestling

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<v Speaker 2>referee as well as my full time job as a

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<v Speaker 2>school teacher and then doing acting on the side.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, Glenn, did did your lifetime of being a fan?

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<v Speaker 3>Basically there's some muscle memory there just watching refs operate

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<v Speaker 3>all those years.

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<v Speaker 2>It did, you know, watching those guys be part of

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<v Speaker 2>the story. And you know, coming from an acting background,

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<v Speaker 2>I knew that I had to be part of that

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<v Speaker 2>storytelling without taking away from the true performers that were

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<v Speaker 2>in there. Love and I think in my career one

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<v Speaker 2>of the biggest compliments I ever got was actually from

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<v Speaker 2>Roddy Piper Wow who after a match because I refed

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<v Speaker 2>his son Colt in a match and I asked him,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I got his feedback and I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how did I do? And he said, you did everything

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<v Speaker 2>you had to And I didn't notice you, which is

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<v Speaker 2>exactly what I want.

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<v Speaker 3>That's amazing, Glenn. How did you get how did you

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<v Speaker 3>know what the finishes were if you'd never been a

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<v Speaker 3>ref before? And tell you out of time.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they give you.

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<v Speaker 3>A little little ignit during the match or what?

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<v Speaker 2>Just kind of Some of the guys that I was

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<v Speaker 2>working with are old school and it's just on the fly.

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<v Speaker 2>They just give you that nod, that wink here we go,

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<v Speaker 2>and they would go here we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, did you ever have to hand handy guy a blade?

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<v Speaker 2>I did. I worked for a promotion called Big Time Wrestling,

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<v Speaker 2>which is out of New England.

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<v Speaker 1>But I, you know, I don't know if I if

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<v Speaker 1>I in our in our in our messaging back and forth,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I ever said both Jack and

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<v Speaker 1>I are New Englanders, pretty familiar with all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Ah, so you're you're probably familiar with many of the

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<v Speaker 2>organizations I've worked with. I worked with uh top Row Promotions,

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<v Speaker 2>I worked with any cw V, CWNY w UFO, which

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<v Speaker 2>is an interesting organization, and then uh, you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>moved up to working with n w A on Fire

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<v Speaker 2>up in Maine, and so a lot of guys that

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<v Speaker 2>have moved on to much bigger and better things, And.

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<v Speaker 3>You were saying about passing the blade.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, yes, So I was in a match in Lynn, Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>and I was in a match with the owner of

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<v Speaker 2>Big Time Wrestling against Tony Atlas.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>He came to me, He goes, I'm gonna be blading

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<v Speaker 2>during this match and I can't carry it. You're responsible

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<v Speaker 2>for it. Okay, how do I hang on to this

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<v Speaker 2>without cutting myself? But we managed to do it. He

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<v Speaker 2>got his blading in, we did our thing, and at

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the night, Tony Atlas got his arm

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<v Speaker 2>raised and we went home.

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<v Speaker 3>That's great, That's absolutely amazing. Did you have any run

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<v Speaker 3>ins with Massachusetts native John Cena. I'm sure you'd run

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<v Speaker 3>into his dad more than once.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, John Cena Senior and I became actually very friends.

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<v Speaker 2>The initial man that trained me and invited me out

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Rumble, who was a former nw A light heavyweight champion.

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<v Speaker 2>When his dad passed away, John Cena Senior came and

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<v Speaker 2>did the eulogy at his memorial mass and John Cena

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<v Speaker 2>Senior and I got to be pretty good friends. With

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<v Speaker 2>MWF Wrestling, which used to be in Melrose's Did.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever was did you ever work Yankee Pro Wrestling?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it or not. I've worked with everybody with

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<v Speaker 2>that organization, but not directly with that organization.

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<v Speaker 3>We went to one Yes shortly after we became friends.

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<v Speaker 3>We really roughed it at one of those events that

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<v Speaker 3>was those as India as it gets.

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<v Speaker 1>It was in the behind a supermarket, right it was.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like a shopping plaza.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I've We've done it everywhere, you know. We

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<v Speaker 2>did it at a campground, we did children's birthday parties,

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<v Speaker 2>you name it. When you're an independent person, you'll go

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<v Speaker 2>anywhere for a couple of bucks.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you say that again, Glenn Caane. I mean, come on, now,

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<v Speaker 3>what's your middle name? Jacobs? Glenn?

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<v Speaker 2>It is not that's that's the weird thing is matter

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<v Speaker 2>of fact, I just did security at a comic con

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<v Speaker 2>and uh, mister Jacobs was actually there.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no kidding, Oh my god, that's so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you accoose you of stealing this gammick or what?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I accused him of stealing mine, because that's fair.

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<v Speaker 2>That's fair, because you know, as a school teacher, there

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<v Speaker 2>is no pains without cane.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll say that again if you're not a school teacher.

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<v Speaker 1>Because because Glenn here had the cane gimmick before before

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<v Speaker 1>Glenn Jacobs did so definitely, Yeah, see him taking that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that is absolutely tremendous. How many years did you

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<v Speaker 1>do a refereeing a refereeing?

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<v Speaker 2>I was probably a referee for about nine ten years.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're like, you're season pro.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's just I got old fast, Yeah, I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I joined like Diamond Dallas Page. I joined wrestling late

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<v Speaker 2>in my athletic career. I joined at age forty two.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Oh that's going to that's gonna put a beating

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<v Speaker 3>on you. I mean, people don't talk about that enough. Glenn.

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<v Speaker 3>How physically demanding it can be to be a referee.

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<v Speaker 3>No one thinks about it. But I was reading Earl

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<v Speaker 3>Hebner's book and he's all messed up, the poor guy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Earl is Earl. Earl is messed up and a

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<v Speaker 2>joy to hang around. I was lucky enough through top

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<v Speaker 2>Row Promotions to get hooked up with TNA Wrestling when

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<v Speaker 2>they used to go out on the road and do

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<v Speaker 2>house shows, and I got to spend time talking to Earle.

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<v Speaker 2>Who you know to this day sells t shirts that

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<v Speaker 2>says I screwed Brett.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, I think was he wearing one at when

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<v Speaker 1>we in Philly last year. I don't remember when we

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<v Speaker 1>surprised me, but I don't know. Yeah, that was funny, but.

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<v Speaker 3>It takes a toll. I mean, especially if you start

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<v Speaker 3>at forty two knees back right, el elbows yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, when you're on the independent circuit, working

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<v Speaker 2>with varying degrees of experience and training, you know, accidents happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a wrestler who assured me he was trained

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<v Speaker 2>by this wonderful gentleman out of Philadelphia. They called for

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<v Speaker 2>a spot where the referee was going to take a

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<v Speaker 2>a book to the forehead so I could totally prep,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, take the shot if I needed to get

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<v Speaker 2>my hand in the way if I felt uncomfortable, and

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<v Speaker 2>he totally screwed it up and chipped my cheekbone.

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<v Speaker 1>That's another one.

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<v Speaker 3>Hit you with a book like a hardcover book.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, a hardcover book like a thick Harry Potter one.

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<v Speaker 2>But I was you know, I come from a background

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<v Speaker 2>of doing stunt, live stunt work.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in western New York.

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<v Speaker 1>Where Buffalo aia right, was a Buffalaria.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, in the Buffalo area where I am actually presently,

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<v Speaker 2>And there was a famous theme park here in western

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<v Speaker 2>New York that had a Wild West shootout four times

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<v Speaker 2>a day, seven days a week. And my dream was

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<v Speaker 2>to be one of those cowboys getting shot and fighting.

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<v Speaker 2>And at age twenty six, I became one of them. Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew what to expect. I knew, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>what stunt work entailed, and I was totally prepared for

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<v Speaker 2>it and then everything went wrong.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, that actually adds a big piece to why you

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<v Speaker 3>were able to take to being a referee. So naturally

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<v Speaker 3>means that's a bit of pantomime. They're a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of a live action stunt work. So, Buffalo, did you

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<v Speaker 3>grow up going to the War Memorial or what was

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<v Speaker 3>your wrestling heritage growing up?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Absolutely. You know I would always beg my dad

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<v Speaker 2>to take me to professional wrestling at War Memorial Auditorium.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, way I'm old, so way back in the day,

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<v Speaker 2>and my dad was like, first of all, it's all fake.

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<v Speaker 2>I went, not SA and he goes, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I had one of those wrestlers in my bank. I

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<v Speaker 2>went who was in the bank. My dad used to

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<v Speaker 2>work for a bank in Batavia and they had Haystacks

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<v Speaker 2>Calhoun come in what to do some banking, sat in

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<v Speaker 2>a chair and got stuck. But I've always been intrigued

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<v Speaker 2>by I had always been in love with it. I

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<v Speaker 2>saw Tito Santana win the tag team Championship against Demolition

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<v Speaker 2>here in Here and War Memorial against Demolition a strike force,

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<v Speaker 2>and little did I know that about twenty six years

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<v Speaker 2>later I would be in the ring with Tito Santana

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<v Speaker 2>an independent event, and then I did a Make a

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<v Speaker 2>Wish event where both members of Demolition and I had

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<v Speaker 2>the most fun ever picking on a local tag team.

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<v Speaker 1>I need more than that.

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<v Speaker 2>What happened there, Well, there was a young boy who's

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<v Speaker 2>meet wrestlers, and his goal was to do a Make

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<v Speaker 2>a Wish wrestling event to raise money for cancer patient,

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<v Speaker 2>and he actually put together a card that included the

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<v Speaker 2>Boogeyman Demolition. You know all these big name people and

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<v Speaker 2>then they needed some local guys to kind of fill

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<v Speaker 2>out everything else. Well, the tag team that was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to take on Demolition backed out. I managed to call

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<v Speaker 2>one of my local guys and said, hey, would you

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<v Speaker 2>like to wrestle them Demolition? They went, wait, we get

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<v Speaker 2>to wrestle at w WE Hall of Famers. Yes, sign

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<v Speaker 2>us up. I said, you're not going to get paid

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<v Speaker 2>because it's a makeup. Wish said, we don't care. So

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<v Speaker 2>we got in the ring and they're doing their thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, uh, acts starts gouging the guy's eye

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm like, no, no, no, you can't out the eye.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I can't couch the I can I Can I

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<v Speaker 2>bite them? No no, no, you can't bite them. Can

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<v Speaker 2>I fish hook them? No? No, no, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's just back and forth and then he goes, can

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<v Speaker 2>I punch him? I'm like, well yeah, he goes, oh good.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was just that old school wrestling. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>That event also had Shark Boy.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh sure, who?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh said to me before the match, you know I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to bite the guy, right, I said, yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 2>part of your gimmick.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes he was saying don't disqualify me, right, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not. The last event he had done

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<v Speaker 2>prior to that a referee to squal food.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, it's like disqualifying the Bushwhackers for licking somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, and those boys are a joy.

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<v Speaker 3>So Bill, bill IDE's voice or Edie's voice is not

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<v Speaker 2>Bill's. Bill is a very soft spoken guy. He really is.

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<v Speaker 2>He was just in Buffalo last year for Nickel Citycon

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<v Speaker 2>both Axe and Smash, And it's fun having conversations with

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<v Speaker 2>those guys, you know, because they're old school. They love

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<v Speaker 2>the storytelling part. You know, it's not all about the

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<v Speaker 2>high flying. It's about telling that story and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>getting that audience, you know, engaged, getting them there and

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<v Speaker 2>then backing off. A certain Dudley boy said, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like sex. Yeah, takes hope of that CLIMAXX.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just one more and on the refing unless you

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<v Speaker 3>have some more JP before we moved to spotlight. But

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<v Speaker 3>I'd love to ask you, Glenn, do you ever have

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<v Speaker 3>a circumstance where you had to put the boots to

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<v Speaker 3>a fan who hit the ring? That's always my favorite

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<v Speaker 3>referee stories, believe.

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<v Speaker 2>It or not. We haven't. I know it. In the

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<v Speaker 2>Independent League you always see you always have those rowdy fans.

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<v Speaker 2>But the nice thing about the New England fans they

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<v Speaker 2>were very mouthy. They weren't very handsy, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>unless we allowed them to be. But I did just

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<v Speaker 2>recently do uh security for Monday Night Raw when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to Buffalo and they put me right next to

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<v Speaker 2>the stage. And the head of security comes by and

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<v Speaker 2>he goes, you're on the hot corner. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>no hot corner of the stage. Do you know what

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<v Speaker 2>that means? I say, yeah, I need to watch them.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes, well, the last guy came out of the

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<v Speaker 2>stands from your side. I said, oh, you mean Seth

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<v Speaker 2>Orleans when it got run over by the fanny. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we don't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't like that. People remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, no that's not happening.

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<v Speaker 1>So wow.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's I I would say, I've you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in my short career, I got to work with some

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<v Speaker 2>really wonderful people. I had, you know, I've got some

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<v Speaker 2>great stories. You know when Billy Gunn and he goes

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<v Speaker 2>in the dressing room, goes, I'm your referee, and he

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<v Speaker 2>goes Damn, you're big. I'm gonna have to hate you hard.

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<v Speaker 3>There the match called for a ref lump the ref.

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<v Speaker 2>The match called for two of them. The first one

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<v Speaker 2>was Billy going for his famouser Scott Steiner, tossing him

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<v Speaker 2>away and into the referee, taking a full forearm from oh,

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred and seventy five pounds, a Billy gun crashing,

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<v Speaker 2>Scott coming over and shaking me and sayf ref, are

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<v Speaker 2>you okay? And then bashing my head into the corner

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<v Speaker 2>turn and tuggle just for fun. Uh. And then you're.

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<v Speaker 3>Saying Scott was supposed to do that? That isn't just

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<v Speaker 3>Scott being Scott.

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<v Speaker 2>No, after the match was Scott being Scott. The match

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<v Speaker 2>ended the way it was supposed to, with Billy Gunn

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<v Speaker 2>getting his arm raised and Scott being Scott, very upset

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<v Speaker 2>that he was cheated out of being cheating and for

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<v Speaker 2>a win. And uh. He looked at me and he said,

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<v Speaker 2>are you good to take one more? And I said, Scott, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>just please not over the top rope. And he tossed

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<v Speaker 2>me out of the ring and onto the outfield of

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<v Speaker 2>Syracuse Chiefs Stadium in Syracuse.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's unbelievable. That's that is I listened.

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<v Speaker 1>I can listen to these all day. Honest to god,

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<v Speaker 1>I love I love hearing wrestling stories like this, They're

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<v Speaker 1>so amazing. But I wanted I did want to ask, so, uh, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you correct me if I'm wrong. You went to ken

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<v Speaker 1>Moore West High School? Is that correct?

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<v Speaker 2>I did?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now, did you do any athletics while you there?

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<v Speaker 1>While you're growing up in high school?

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<v Speaker 2>I played, uh, soccer, but my main sport was hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Oh so you even even had it there too,

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<v Speaker 1>Like you had the be able to absorb impact and

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<v Speaker 1>all that stuff. So yeah, there's stunt work and then referee.

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<v Speaker 1>It totally makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I you know, I gave my mother and sister

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<v Speaker 2>horror dreams for years getting my faith bashed in in

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<v Speaker 2>high school hockey.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god. Yeah, oh that's wild and uh And

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<v Speaker 1>then you went to Notre Dame University, correct I did? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you do sports there? Too?

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<v Speaker 2>What was there? What was I was just smart enough,

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<v Speaker 2>not too uh, I'm too small to play football, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was smart enough to make all of them my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you didn't want to be like a rooty type

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<v Speaker 1>and just get on there and just get on the

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<v Speaker 1>one point. No.

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<v Speaker 2>The matter of fact, my students that I had early

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<v Speaker 2>on in my teaching career said, well, you went to Nardine,

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<v Speaker 2>did you play football? I said, I'm too little And

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<v Speaker 2>they look at me and they're like, you're you're six

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<v Speaker 2>foot you're two and twenty five pounds. What do you

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<v Speaker 2>mean you're too little? Like my roommate who plays for

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<v Speaker 2>the Chicago Bears, is six foot two oh two with

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<v Speaker 2>two percent body fat. Yeah, I'm little.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, you know hey, hey said Calhoun was too

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<v Speaker 3>little too until he stepped on your at your dad's

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<v Speaker 3>bank branch there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Oh wow, I'll I will give you quickly because

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get too far off before we

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<v Speaker 2>get to spotlight and movie, be far off.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen, we love well. Do you want to take it? Man? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to take tangents.

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<v Speaker 2>When I when I was in Buffalo working in radio,

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<v Speaker 2>I also did some sound work for a local band

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<v Speaker 2>who happened to be playing at the at the Hilton

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<v Speaker 2>right next to War Memorial Auditorium. There happened to be

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<v Speaker 2>a WWE event there that night. In the back of the.

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<v Speaker 1>Room, what what what year are we talking?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh god, probably around nineteen eighty eight, eighty nine, somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>in there, and Jesse Ventura came in the back.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, that's exactually what I like to be in the

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<v Speaker 1>back damn right.

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<v Speaker 2>Had a couple of beers moved on. Unfortunately there was

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<v Speaker 2>a much larger individual but wanted to be the center

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<v Speaker 2>of attention. Walked straight to the bar, won Andre.

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<v Speaker 1>The Giant, I love it, I love it?

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<v Speaker 2>Who the young singer in the band that was performing,

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<v Speaker 2>was so ecstatic that he wanted to meet Andre the

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<v Speaker 2>Giant ran up to him and put his hands on him,

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<v Speaker 2>which is as much as Andre loved his fans, he

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<v Speaker 2>did not like to be touched. He kind of swung

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<v Speaker 2>his arm at the young singer, who backed up and went,

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<v Speaker 2>can I get you a drink? Is there anything you want?

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<v Speaker 2>And in his deep, gravelly voice, girl to sing? Some

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<v Speaker 2>woman he was with. He wanted her to sing with

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<v Speaker 2>the band. They didn't deny him.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not going to for sure?

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<v Speaker 2>There?

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<v Speaker 3>That's right?

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<v Speaker 1>Did did you? Did you witness his his his legendary drinking.

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<v Speaker 2>He had a he had, believe it or not, just

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of glasses of wine when he was there,

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<v Speaker 2>not a couple of bottles, just glasses, all right. But

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<v Speaker 2>I found out years later talking to Ted Dbiassi, that

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<v Speaker 2>Andre loved his fans, but he hated being crowded because

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<v Speaker 2>everything was crowded in his life.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Oh my god, everything everything is closer, everything,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's a little tighter when you're that size.

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<v Speaker 3>For Glenn must have been in significant pain.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely, you know, And it's it's it's been interesting,

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<v Speaker 2>you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And so you mentioned radio that I did not

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<v Speaker 1>find about you. So tell me about telling about your

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<v Speaker 1>radio work. I'm fast again, fascinated about the whole, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole story.

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<v Speaker 2>I have been. I was a radio produce, sure in

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<v Speaker 2>the mid eighties after leaving Notre Dame, and I was

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<v Speaker 2>lucky enough to work with such radio legends as Ted

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<v Speaker 2>Darling and Rick Jennerett in Buffalo and it was a

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful experience. And when I moved back to Buffalo, I

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<v Speaker 2>got to work with RJ in his last years. So

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes life comes full circle.

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<v Speaker 3>No, absolutely, did wrestlers ever come through the station, Glenn.

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<v Speaker 2>Through our station. No, they come through my key Bank

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<v Speaker 2>Center on a regular basis. Sure, good, yep, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh so radio work. And then I know you did

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<v Speaker 1>some some stage work I read unless it's another Glenn Kane,

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<v Speaker 1>But ye, did you do Plaza Suite at the tr

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<v Speaker 1>Homestead restaurant in theater?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? God, yeah, tr Homestead. That's a whole interesting thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a family restaurant in the front and a

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<v Speaker 2>dinner theater in the back, run by two brothers. Oh boy,

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<v Speaker 2>who put on for such a small theater, wonderful shows.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were for the Niagara Falls bus tour type

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<v Speaker 2>people that would come in and want dinner and a

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<v Speaker 2>show for forty five bucks.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's that is Like, so how big

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<v Speaker 1>was it? How big was the space? Because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you say, in my mind, I'm thinking, okay, you get

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<v Speaker 1>a restaurant, but then like they almost added on a

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<v Speaker 1>theater in the back to do dinner and do a

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<v Speaker 1>dinner theater.

424
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<v Speaker 2>But I think it's sat one hundred and eighty people.

425
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, it's pretty tight. That's a that's a pretty like

426
00:26:52.440 --> 00:26:54.680
<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're like right on top of people.

427
00:26:55.319 --> 00:26:59.240
<v Speaker 2>Yep. This Oh in Plaza Suite. You're familiar with the

428
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:02.960
<v Speaker 2>show because you have a theater background. There's a big

429
00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:07.119
<v Speaker 2>fight between the husband and wife. Yes, the cheating husband

430
00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:11.240
<v Speaker 2>and the you know, the wonderful wife, And as he

431
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:15.799
<v Speaker 2>is about to walk out the door, she says, no, God,

432
00:27:15.880 --> 00:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>damn it, we're going to talk about it now. There

433
00:27:19.200 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 2>was a woman in the front row that looked right

434
00:27:21.400 --> 00:27:28.400
<v Speaker 2>at me and she said, you tell him, honey.

435
00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.480
<v Speaker 3>Thought I thought there was only marks at the wrestling shows.

436
00:27:28.559 --> 00:27:28.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

437
00:27:28.880 --> 00:27:32.519
<v Speaker 2>No, oh no, there are marks in every theater.

438
00:27:32.559 --> 00:27:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, oh yeah, that's tremendous. I love that. The

439
00:27:39.160 --> 00:27:43.200
<v Speaker 1>now also too, we're talking theater too. So Jack, we

440
00:27:43.319 --> 00:27:47.559
<v Speaker 1>have Glenn and I have mutual friends, and one specifically

441
00:27:47.640 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>is Paul Vote. Who I did? I think I've talked

442
00:27:50.359 --> 00:27:52.799
<v Speaker 1>about it on the show Hairspray and Aladdin with back

443
00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>in twenty twelve. Now, you grew up with them, you

444
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:55.960
<v Speaker 1>told me, right.

445
00:27:56.480 --> 00:28:00.319
<v Speaker 2>I did? My brother Peter, Peter and Paul no.

446
00:28:00.400 --> 00:28:03.359
<v Speaker 1>Marry though they should have a Mary. The should have

447
00:28:03.400 --> 00:28:04.519
<v Speaker 1>had a I don't know. I don't know they had

448
00:28:04.519 --> 00:28:05.680
<v Speaker 1>a sister, but they should have had a marry They

449
00:28:05.680 --> 00:28:07.200
<v Speaker 1>should have had a Mary Vote as well. Is they

450
00:28:07.200 --> 00:28:07.960
<v Speaker 1>have Peter Paul Maery.

451
00:28:08.759 --> 00:28:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Out of the out of the ten children she had,

452
00:28:12.720 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 2>the Peter and Paul are the youngest. That's wild in

453
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:16.680
<v Speaker 2>that family.

454
00:28:16.720 --> 00:28:18.119
<v Speaker 3>The next one would have been merry, I got it?

455
00:28:18.160 --> 00:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Okay, right?

456
00:28:19.200 --> 00:28:19.400
<v Speaker 2>Right?

457
00:28:21.240 --> 00:28:25.079
<v Speaker 1>So like did you did you? Were they in the

458
00:28:25.079 --> 00:28:26.839
<v Speaker 1>same high school? Do they go? Like? How did that

459
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:28.319
<v Speaker 1>all play?

460
00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:33.279
<v Speaker 2>They actually went to the high school. Our school district

461
00:28:33.319 --> 00:28:35.680
<v Speaker 2>was so big we have two high schools, and it

462
00:28:35.759 --> 00:28:38.240
<v Speaker 2>depended on which side of the tracks you lived as

463
00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:41.240
<v Speaker 2>to which high school you went to. They went to

464
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>the opposing high school. But in the summer are the

465
00:28:46.160 --> 00:28:49.880
<v Speaker 2>theater and English teacher at ken mo Or West ran

466
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:57.119
<v Speaker 2>a summer theater program called the Kenton Summer Musical Theater Workshop,

467
00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and anybody that lived within the strict was free to

468
00:29:02.079 --> 00:29:05.680
<v Speaker 2>come and try out and be in the shows. And

469
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:11.039
<v Speaker 2>Peter and Paul were in it. I ended up working

470
00:29:11.079 --> 00:29:14.160
<v Speaker 2>with them for probably about four years.

471
00:29:14.440 --> 00:29:14.680
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

472
00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:19.480
<v Speaker 2>During that time, you know, and and we graduated some

473
00:29:19.720 --> 00:29:22.599
<v Speaker 2>you know, well Peter and Paul first of all, some

474
00:29:22.640 --> 00:29:27.880
<v Speaker 2>pretty phenomenal people, including the original Michaelangelo from The Ninja

475
00:29:27.960 --> 00:29:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Turtles was in the first couple of shows.

476
00:29:31.599 --> 00:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's amazing, was I was. I grew up with

477
00:29:37.000 --> 00:29:39.839
<v Speaker 1>the Ninja Turtles. That's like my when they when they

478
00:29:39.839 --> 00:29:41.960
<v Speaker 1>first came out on television and stuff like that, and

479
00:29:41.960 --> 00:29:44.720
<v Speaker 1>then the movies and stuff that's all my my bread

480
00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:45.519
<v Speaker 1>and butter right there.

481
00:29:46.599 --> 00:29:53.119
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Misha who's gone on to he Mishan went

482
00:29:53.160 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>on to do Broadway with Bette Midler. He was a

483
00:29:56.880 --> 00:30:01.200
<v Speaker 2>middler on the roof, but got involved with Disney and

484
00:30:01.279 --> 00:30:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Henson Productions and puppeteering. He's still doing a bit of

485
00:30:05.720 --> 00:30:09.599
<v Speaker 2>it now. He just did the Doctor Mayhem Show for

486
00:30:09.799 --> 00:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>the Disney Channel. He did puppeteering for that. Well, we're

487
00:30:13.440 --> 00:30:14.960
<v Speaker 2>a pretty strong theater community.

488
00:30:15.039 --> 00:30:20.759
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. That's amazing. Yeah, it's funny. You know, my

489
00:30:21.599 --> 00:30:25.640
<v Speaker 1>daughter is right at the age where she is kind

490
00:30:25.640 --> 00:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>of watching a lot of those Disney sitcoms and stuff

491
00:30:30.440 --> 00:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>from kind of the late nineties, early two thousands and

492
00:30:32.759 --> 00:30:36.160
<v Speaker 1>so mid two thousands even, and so I see Paul

493
00:30:37.119 --> 00:30:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and Peter in so many different things every time, and

494
00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so it's always so funny. So I always messaged I

495
00:30:44.519 --> 00:30:46.440
<v Speaker 1>didn't know Peter as well as Peter wasn't in the show,

496
00:30:46.759 --> 00:30:52.440
<v Speaker 1>but I understudied Paul and so I I, you know,

497
00:30:52.519 --> 00:30:55.880
<v Speaker 1>we text every now and again, and it's usually me saying,

498
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:57.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, hey, I just saw you on a thing

499
00:30:57.599 --> 00:31:01.279
<v Speaker 1>that my daughter's watching, and so it's always it's always

500
00:31:01.400 --> 00:31:04.319
<v Speaker 1>very funny to me. And now she even knows that

501
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:08.319
<v Speaker 1>you know who he is, and like, oh, that's your friend. Yep,

502
00:31:08.440 --> 00:31:11.680
<v Speaker 1>that's it. There he is. He's there again. You give

503
00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:14.440
<v Speaker 1>him a little bit extra money in his paycheck this

504
00:31:14.440 --> 00:31:15.440
<v Speaker 1>this month. So that's good.

505
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:22.039
<v Speaker 2>Nuts for Princess Diaries. Princess Diaries too.

506
00:31:22.160 --> 00:31:25.160
<v Speaker 1>We did. Yeah, we just watched them actually for the

507
00:31:25.160 --> 00:31:28.720
<v Speaker 1>first time, like a month ago. We watched both of

508
00:31:28.759 --> 00:31:31.400
<v Speaker 1>them and so yeah, because he's in that yep, then

509
00:31:31.400 --> 00:31:33.000
<v Speaker 1>there was are they both and they're both in that

510
00:31:33.039 --> 00:31:33.440
<v Speaker 1>one right?

511
00:31:34.079 --> 00:31:39.559
<v Speaker 2>Yes? They in the when Anne Hathaway announces that she's

512
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:43.359
<v Speaker 2>going to turn one of the castles into an orphanage,

513
00:31:44.440 --> 00:31:51.039
<v Speaker 2>the Paul who's Lord Crowley has a fight with his brother,

514
00:31:52.079 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, which is really funny because they use the

515
00:31:57.799 --> 00:32:04.039
<v Speaker 2>Dean and Jerry reference, which for older people, oh my god,

516
00:32:04.079 --> 00:32:09.119
<v Speaker 2>they're saying Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis. But that that scene,

517
00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:12.319
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna love. The get out of the bag came

518
00:32:12.359 --> 00:32:16.519
<v Speaker 2>out of Ann and Gary Marshall seeing Peter and Paul

519
00:32:17.119 --> 00:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>chatting and being kidding themselves off camera and said we

520
00:32:22.480 --> 00:32:23.440
<v Speaker 2>need that on camera.

521
00:32:23.640 --> 00:32:27.200
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing, you know what, And this is funny. So

522
00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I did. I messaged him right after we saw that

523
00:32:31.079 --> 00:32:34.519
<v Speaker 1>and I said, I said to him, I said, watching

524
00:32:34.519 --> 00:32:36.240
<v Speaker 1>you and your brother Vicker was a highlight for me.

525
00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:38.160
<v Speaker 1>And then he wrote back he said, we can come

526
00:32:38.200 --> 00:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>and fight in public for a small fee.

527
00:32:42.480 --> 00:32:47.640
<v Speaker 3>Sounds a wrestler exactly right, very small fee sometimes just

528
00:32:47.640 --> 00:32:48.240
<v Speaker 3>for a hot dog.

529
00:32:48.680 --> 00:32:51.200
<v Speaker 1>It sounds like Brian Knobbs do for twenty bucks.

530
00:32:53.039 --> 00:32:57.400
<v Speaker 2>He's a LAPS fan wrestling podcast with Jack and and

531
00:32:57.559 --> 00:33:08.640
<v Speaker 2>Jpisio LAPS Fan Wrestling Podcast.

532
00:33:09.559 --> 00:33:16.400
<v Speaker 1>What prompted the move to Massachusetts A job job? Absolutely.

533
00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:21.519
<v Speaker 2>You know, the western New York market in the late

534
00:33:21.559 --> 00:33:26.160
<v Speaker 2>eighties to early nineties, our population dropped a great deal,

535
00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:34.880
<v Speaker 2>so teaching and the communications market was growing smaller. And

536
00:33:34.960 --> 00:33:39.240
<v Speaker 2>I had an opportunity to move to New England, where

537
00:33:39.279 --> 00:33:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I started out teaching at this crazy outdoor education facility

538
00:33:45.519 --> 00:33:48.759
<v Speaker 2>that I was lucky enough to have. School principal go,

539
00:33:50.119 --> 00:33:52.839
<v Speaker 2>I like you, and I'm trying to figure out why

540
00:33:52.920 --> 00:33:55.039
<v Speaker 2>you have such a good education in your teaching in

541
00:33:55.079 --> 00:34:00.759
<v Speaker 2>the woods, because my son goes to where you went

542
00:34:00.799 --> 00:34:03.079
<v Speaker 2>to school, and I want to make sure he I'm

543
00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:04.839
<v Speaker 2>not wasting all my money for him to be in

544
00:34:04.880 --> 00:34:10.400
<v Speaker 2>the woods. Yeah, but I got hired, and U moved

545
00:34:10.440 --> 00:34:15.599
<v Speaker 2>to uh just south of Boston, and there I was

546
00:34:15.719 --> 00:34:22.039
<v Speaker 2>doing Dinner theater and teaching and carrying on the theater,

547
00:34:22.239 --> 00:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>and I was directing at my school.

548
00:34:24.719 --> 00:34:27.079
<v Speaker 1>You did you did a show in at least at

549
00:34:27.199 --> 00:34:30.280
<v Speaker 1>least one show, but you did a show at the

550
00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Quincy Dinner Theater, right at least.

551
00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.639
<v Speaker 2>I was a staple at Quincy Dinner for almost four

552
00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:42.280
<v Speaker 2>and a half years, somehow, involved in every production. That's great, directing,

553
00:34:42.599 --> 00:34:47.000
<v Speaker 2>lighting in, you name it, I did it.

554
00:34:47.000 --> 00:34:50.239
<v Speaker 3>It's like must have been go ahead. That must have

555
00:34:50.280 --> 00:34:52.840
<v Speaker 3>been where you linked up with any c W. You know,

556
00:34:52.920 --> 00:34:53.920
<v Speaker 3>they used to run the area.

557
00:34:55.719 --> 00:34:59.079
<v Speaker 2>Believe it or not, Quincy Dinner Theater in any CW

558
00:34:59.559 --> 00:35:07.480
<v Speaker 2>were about probably ten blocks apart. Quintin Dinner Theater was

559
00:35:07.599 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>run out of the out of a actually a large

560
00:35:16.079 --> 00:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>theater that was run by the Masons. It sat four

561
00:35:20.559 --> 00:35:24.519
<v Speaker 2>hundred people and it was a full stage sized stage,

562
00:35:25.639 --> 00:35:30.440
<v Speaker 2>four floors of dressing rooms. It was incredible, and unfortunately,

563
00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:33.519
<v Speaker 2>four years ago was lost to a major fire.

564
00:35:34.079 --> 00:35:38.920
<v Speaker 1>That's awful. There's a theater like there. Well again they

565
00:35:38.960 --> 00:35:40.480
<v Speaker 1>well they didn't lose it a fire, but they close

566
00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 1>it down. I don't know if you ever been to

567
00:35:41.519 --> 00:35:47.679
<v Speaker 1>the Westchester Broadway Theater in Westchester, New York. But it's

568
00:35:48.079 --> 00:35:50.840
<v Speaker 1>not it was it was my wife performed there a

569
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.000
<v Speaker 1>couple of times, and it was a beautiful you know,

570
00:35:55.280 --> 00:35:58.400
<v Speaker 1>it was just it wasn't what I ever experienced at

571
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:00.159
<v Speaker 1>dinner theater. I mean, it was like a theater but

572
00:36:00.800 --> 00:36:04.400
<v Speaker 1>with but you're just sitting at tables. But it's the

573
00:36:04.400 --> 00:36:08.400
<v Speaker 1>same type of you know, uh, stadium seating type slope

574
00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:14.440
<v Speaker 1>down into uh what do you call it a thrust stage. Well,

575
00:36:14.639 --> 00:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>it was a thrust stage, but almost there in the round,

576
00:36:16.880 --> 00:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's where you have audience on three three sides

577
00:36:21.559 --> 00:36:26.199
<v Speaker 1>instead of four. And uh but yeah, this is sounding

578
00:36:26.239 --> 00:36:27.880
<v Speaker 1>like that. I never went to Quincy Dinner Theater, but

579
00:36:28.960 --> 00:36:30.880
<v Speaker 1>it's sounding similar to that.

580
00:36:30.880 --> 00:36:34.039
<v Speaker 2>That's great, And that sounds a little bit like the

581
00:36:34.199 --> 00:36:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Riverside Theater is in Boston and they have a thrust

582
00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 2>stage because I don't have a very deep stage.

583
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:46.639
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's amazing. And so I mean you were

584
00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:48.239
<v Speaker 1>doing this while you were teaching as well.

585
00:36:48.920 --> 00:36:53.760
<v Speaker 2>Yep. My wife is a costumer and director as well,

586
00:36:53.920 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 2>and she came home one evening and said, I know,

587
00:36:57.400 --> 00:37:01.960
<v Speaker 2>your schedules were really busy and we've been married a year,

588
00:37:03.159 --> 00:37:06.519
<v Speaker 2>But would you ever audition for a show? I'm like,

589
00:37:06.639 --> 00:37:10.639
<v Speaker 2>what's the show? She went Gypsy? And I went, why

590
00:37:10.920 --> 00:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>she goes? We had only four men audition, and none

591
00:37:14.880 --> 00:37:18.800
<v Speaker 2>of them they're they're they're quirky, and the rest of

592
00:37:18.800 --> 00:37:21.960
<v Speaker 2>them are all kind of would be the boys and

593
00:37:22.400 --> 00:37:25.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, are all college and high school aged kids.

594
00:37:26.639 --> 00:37:30.599
<v Speaker 2>And I went okay. I walked in and sang and

595
00:37:30.840 --> 00:37:35.039
<v Speaker 2>did the choreography, the minimal choreography they asked me. And

596
00:37:35.159 --> 00:37:41.239
<v Speaker 2>the owner of the Quincy Dinner Theater, uh Darling Productions,

597
00:37:41.280 --> 00:37:44.960
<v Speaker 2>came over and said, Hi, you're terrific. I'd like to

598
00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:52.800
<v Speaker 2>offer you the rolla Herbie And I went okay. So

599
00:37:52.880 --> 00:37:55.000
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm a full time actor at night and

600
00:37:55.440 --> 00:37:56.800
<v Speaker 2>full time teacher during the day.

601
00:37:59.480 --> 00:38:02.320
<v Speaker 1>We've been there. I hear you. That's that's that's the

602
00:38:02.360 --> 00:38:05.679
<v Speaker 1>life right there, in a nutshell, that's crazy.

603
00:38:06.000 --> 00:38:11.159
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't have asked for anything better and any better

604
00:38:11.599 --> 00:38:15.960
<v Speaker 2>learning experience for a bigger house, live theater than to

605
00:38:16.039 --> 00:38:19.480
<v Speaker 2>be on stage with a Mama Rose who forgot our lines.

606
00:38:19.679 --> 00:38:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, do you know do you know the

607
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:25.559
<v Speaker 1>show Jack at all? Do you know Gypsy? I don't, okay,

608
00:38:25.679 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it's it's I mean.

609
00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:27.719
<v Speaker 3>No Gypsy.

610
00:38:27.800 --> 00:38:35.679
<v Speaker 2>Joe Andre McDonald is now playing Gypsy Gypsy's.

611
00:38:35.119 --> 00:38:40.079
<v Speaker 1>Mother on Broadway. My wife just saw Gypsy is my

612
00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:44.079
<v Speaker 1>wife's favorite show. So it's it's uh, it's it's one

613
00:38:44.119 --> 00:38:48.079
<v Speaker 1>that I have seen to you know, both. I guess

614
00:38:48.719 --> 00:38:51.519
<v Speaker 1>it's wonderful and also a detriment that I've seen it

615
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.199
<v Speaker 1>or heard it as many times as I have. But

616
00:38:56.280 --> 00:39:00.599
<v Speaker 1>it's you know, you know, Mama Rose is just the biggest,

617
00:39:00.760 --> 00:39:04.599
<v Speaker 1>larger than life stage mom you can possibly imagine, and

618
00:39:04.679 --> 00:39:10.079
<v Speaker 1>she is the focus of the show. It's her show,

619
00:39:10.320 --> 00:39:19.000
<v Speaker 1>and it's Roses for getting your lines. That's a problem,

620
00:39:19.840 --> 00:39:20.079
<v Speaker 1>you know.

621
00:39:20.199 --> 00:39:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And and poor I will say that our Gypsy Rosalie

622
00:39:25.000 --> 00:39:31.320
<v Speaker 2>was phenomenal. She had come from doing tours in Europe

623
00:39:31.599 --> 00:39:33.840
<v Speaker 2>and things like that, and had moved to the New

624
00:39:33.840 --> 00:39:40.280
<v Speaker 2>England area. She'd been in Hair, Germany done and early Aladdin,

625
00:39:40.599 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the in the early nineties. She was phenomenal.

626
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:47.480
<v Speaker 2>She's in the middle of her big change to become

627
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:54.840
<v Speaker 2>Gypsy Rosalie. Mama was supposed to sing her reprise of

628
00:39:56.119 --> 00:39:59.639
<v Speaker 2>that You're a man who loves children.

629
00:40:00.199 --> 00:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>She brought.

630
00:40:02.199 --> 00:40:05.440
<v Speaker 2>And then just yells out, you've got to be on stage?

631
00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:07.199
<v Speaker 1>What?

632
00:40:08.239 --> 00:40:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

633
00:40:09.039 --> 00:40:13.320
<v Speaker 3>What that's like? Uh, that's like Davy boy showing up

634
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<v Speaker 3>on crack made too. I mean, my god, Yeah, what

635
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<v Speaker 3>are you gonna do from there?

636
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<v Speaker 2>Man?

637
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<v Speaker 1>That you got it?

638
00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:22.239
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you planned on it, but sounds

639
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<v Speaker 3>like you were with the Brett Hart in that situation.

640
00:40:23.639 --> 00:40:29.400
<v Speaker 2>Glenn. Unfortunately, at that point of the show, and I

641
00:40:29.480 --> 00:40:33.840
<v Speaker 2>know JP knows the show well, Herbie has exited. Yeah,

642
00:40:33.880 --> 00:40:38.519
<v Speaker 2>he's gone by and says, I don't love your Rose.

643
00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:42.079
<v Speaker 1>I'm out. Yeah, it's it's it's Gypsy Rose. Who's gotta

644
00:40:42.079 --> 00:40:45.639
<v Speaker 1>be Brett Hard in that situation. It's tough. Yeah, that's tough.

645
00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:52.719
<v Speaker 2>She literally was pulling her gloves on, dress not zipped,

646
00:40:52.880 --> 00:40:54.000
<v Speaker 2>stepping on the stage.

647
00:40:54.360 --> 00:40:57.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Oh my god.

648
00:40:57.519 --> 00:40:58.800
<v Speaker 2>I read it off like a trooper.

649
00:40:58.920 --> 00:40:59.639
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

650
00:41:00.320 --> 00:41:04.239
<v Speaker 2>I love the woman still to death. Today. We're still

651
00:41:04.280 --> 00:41:05.199
<v Speaker 2>in contact today.

652
00:41:06.519 --> 00:41:11.239
<v Speaker 1>So do uh now all these were these I'm just

653
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<v Speaker 1>not I know I know the I know a little

654
00:41:13.480 --> 00:41:15.280
<v Speaker 1>bit of the Boston theater scene. I have I have

655
00:41:15.360 --> 00:41:17.960
<v Speaker 1>friends and like again I messaged you. When I messaged you,

656
00:41:18.000 --> 00:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I told you a lot of friends from college who

657
00:41:20.760 --> 00:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>are still in the Boston theater scene. Now were these

658
00:41:24.320 --> 00:41:25.639
<v Speaker 1>all these are all professional houses?

659
00:41:27.079 --> 00:41:31.239
<v Speaker 2>No, I did. I did theater wherever I could, totally.

660
00:41:31.440 --> 00:41:36.559
<v Speaker 2>I did dinner theater, I did community theater. I liked

661
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:41.000
<v Speaker 2>just you know, I've loved doing theater since I was

662
00:41:41.000 --> 00:41:44.519
<v Speaker 2>in high school, and I maintained doing it. I still

663
00:41:44.559 --> 00:41:45.400
<v Speaker 2>do it today.

664
00:41:46.440 --> 00:41:46.960
<v Speaker 1>I love that.

665
00:41:47.400 --> 00:41:47.679
<v Speaker 2>What was it?

666
00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:48.840
<v Speaker 1>What was the first show you ever did?

667
00:41:50.119 --> 00:41:56.360
<v Speaker 2>First show I ever did where I appeared on stage

668
00:41:57.320 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 2>was Fiddler on the Roof. I was I was the

669
00:42:00.679 --> 00:42:09.800
<v Speaker 2>famous of many others with Peter and Paul playing Jewish

670
00:42:09.960 --> 00:42:11.639
<v Speaker 2>men and boys.

671
00:42:12.360 --> 00:42:15.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, I would have I listen. I would

672
00:42:15.800 --> 00:42:18.159
<v Speaker 1>I would pay significant money now to go to be

673
00:42:18.159 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 1>able to see a to be a fly on the

674
00:42:20.199 --> 00:42:23.880
<v Speaker 1>wall back then to see this. Absolutely, that's that's amazing.

675
00:42:26.000 --> 00:42:31.800
<v Speaker 2>Somewhere I have video evidence of Peter playing Horace van

676
00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:34.840
<v Speaker 2>Degeller while Paul was directing him.

677
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:41.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, oh my, that's amazing. I mean, and

678
00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.400
<v Speaker 1>I listen. I'm with you with the love of theater.

679
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:47.159
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I've I I worked at a theater that

680
00:42:47.440 --> 00:42:52.199
<v Speaker 1>was a no no pay, this was free. I worked

681
00:42:52.440 --> 00:42:56.519
<v Speaker 1>at a theater that was in the corner the corner

682
00:42:56.639 --> 00:43:00.239
<v Speaker 1>of a strip mall an L shaped strip mall all

683
00:43:01.840 --> 00:43:07.119
<v Speaker 1>fifty seats and the backstage was really to the side

684
00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.559
<v Speaker 1>of the audience, behind plywood, and it was about two

685
00:43:09.559 --> 00:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>feet wide. I hear you. You do that for the.

686
00:43:13.320 --> 00:43:16.559
<v Speaker 2>Love, Yeah, no question. I don't think curtain call theater.

687
00:43:20.239 --> 00:43:25.320
<v Speaker 2>I saw. I saw the boys there and it's a

688
00:43:25.440 --> 00:43:28.920
<v Speaker 2>very small thrust stage and there's a scene where the

689
00:43:28.960 --> 00:43:32.239
<v Speaker 2>boy one of the men comes out of the bathroom.

690
00:43:32.840 --> 00:43:35.159
<v Speaker 2>It is also the same bathroom. They have to use

691
00:43:35.199 --> 00:43:36.559
<v Speaker 2>an intermission for the audience.

692
00:43:36.920 --> 00:43:44.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's oh my god. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing where

693
00:43:45.000 --> 00:43:52.400
<v Speaker 1>you can yep, absolutely absolutely, I mean you started directing

694
00:43:52.440 --> 00:43:54.280
<v Speaker 1>shows at the school, right.

695
00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:00.159
<v Speaker 2>Yes. They came to me my second year because the

696
00:44:01.440 --> 00:44:07.519
<v Speaker 2>children my first year at Swampscott Middle School, the high

697
00:44:07.559 --> 00:44:14.199
<v Speaker 2>school was doing sound of music, and which meant they

698
00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:18.800
<v Speaker 2>needed middle school children to play the children. So they

699
00:44:18.800 --> 00:44:21.159
<v Speaker 2>found out I had a theater background. They said, can

700
00:44:21.199 --> 00:44:23.679
<v Speaker 2>you help us and sit in on the auditions. I

701
00:44:23.679 --> 00:44:29.000
<v Speaker 2>said absolutely, I will, I will help. And my students

702
00:44:29.039 --> 00:44:34.440
<v Speaker 2>were auditioning and this girl, and I'm gonna say her name,

703
00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:41.400
<v Speaker 2>Lord Demiko got up and sang beautifully like blew everybody

704
00:44:41.400 --> 00:44:46.400
<v Speaker 2>out of the water and after the auditions, the director

705
00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.119
<v Speaker 2>from the high school said, well, what do you think

706
00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and I said, okay, I saw the high schoolers, I

707
00:44:50.800 --> 00:44:55.360
<v Speaker 2>saw my middle schoolers. Your Mother Superior is my seventh grader,

708
00:44:56.599 --> 00:45:00.840
<v Speaker 2>which she meant, she can't play mother Superior. She's the

709
00:45:00.880 --> 00:45:05.639
<v Speaker 2>only one that can sing it. Yeah, and she went no.

710
00:45:07.119 --> 00:45:09.760
<v Speaker 2>So my students went to the principal and said, can

711
00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 2>we do a show and they said, well, maybe talk

712
00:45:13.440 --> 00:45:16.159
<v Speaker 2>to mister Kane. I have on a talent show. And

713
00:45:16.199 --> 00:45:21.440
<v Speaker 2>I went, no, good for you talent shows. You need

714
00:45:22.159 --> 00:45:28.679
<v Speaker 2>a babysitter for I will direct a musical. And they said,

715
00:45:28.920 --> 00:45:31.400
<v Speaker 2>well what do you think you would direct? I said,

716
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:34.199
<v Speaker 2>I just pulled something out of my head and I

717
00:45:34.280 --> 00:45:37.960
<v Speaker 2>went lots of children, Wizard of Oz.

718
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 1>There it is.

719
00:45:40.000 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 2>And I pulled it.

720
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:41.559
<v Speaker 1>Off and.

721
00:45:43.320 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Made I was the first show in I think six

722
00:45:47.119 --> 00:45:51.159
<v Speaker 2>years that was a musical out there building that was

723
00:45:51.199 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 2>in the black.

724
00:45:53.079 --> 00:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Wow, no kidding, no kidding, And that was that was

725
00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:58.039
<v Speaker 1>March of ninety six.

726
00:45:57.920 --> 00:46:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Right, yeah, And I did that for almost twenty years.

727
00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:13.760
<v Speaker 2>And my proudest moment was of all my years there

728
00:46:14.039 --> 00:46:17.159
<v Speaker 2>is I went to the Broadway Teacher Workshop in New

729
00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:22.280
<v Speaker 2>York City. That's what I'm by Mt I and we're

730
00:46:22.320 --> 00:46:29.119
<v Speaker 2>teachers and theater educators can learn firsthand from Broadway actors, directors, producers,

731
00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:32.719
<v Speaker 2>set designers. You get to see for Broadway shows while

732
00:46:32.719 --> 00:46:36.639
<v Speaker 2>you're there. And we went and saw Bullets over Broadway,

733
00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:41.679
<v Speaker 2>and I'm standing, I'm sitting in before and we got

734
00:46:41.719 --> 00:46:46.639
<v Speaker 2>to have a talk back with cast members, and you know,

735
00:46:46.800 --> 00:46:49.280
<v Speaker 2>everybody asked the type of questions of you know, why

736
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:50.039
<v Speaker 2>do you do this?

737
00:46:51.519 --> 00:46:52.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, how do you know?

738
00:46:52.480 --> 00:46:57.400
<v Speaker 2>What's your background? How did you get here? And one

739
00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:02.320
<v Speaker 2>of the chorus boys raised the hand, stepped forward and said,

740
00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.360
<v Speaker 2>I want to tell you how I got here. Mister

741
00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Kane right there in row four. Wow. He told me

742
00:47:10.480 --> 00:47:13.519
<v Speaker 2>when I left high school what I should do when

743
00:47:13.559 --> 00:47:16.199
<v Speaker 2>I got to college. And he said, the first thing

744
00:47:16.239 --> 00:47:18.880
<v Speaker 2>I want you to do is take the ballet class,

745
00:47:18.960 --> 00:47:21.679
<v Speaker 2>because every other dance is going to be based on

746
00:47:21.719 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 2>your strength from ballet. And he goes, and here I

747
00:47:25.599 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 2>am on Broadway.

748
00:47:27.239 --> 00:47:31.960
<v Speaker 1>That's that I can't I can. I want to imagine yeah, yeah,

749
00:47:32.280 --> 00:47:35.199
<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine the feeling of of of having that

750
00:47:35.280 --> 00:47:39.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, uh, you know, influence on somebody.

751
00:47:39.039 --> 00:47:39.719
<v Speaker 1>That's really amazing.

752
00:47:39.760 --> 00:47:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Everybody wants that your name mentioned it, that Tony's or

753
00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.559
<v Speaker 2>the Academy Awards, that was mine. That's so special that

754
00:47:49.559 --> 00:47:57.000
<v Speaker 2>that young gentleman has gone on to he was he

755
00:47:57.159 --> 00:48:03.760
<v Speaker 2>was in the revival of Cats on Broadway. He has

756
00:48:03.840 --> 00:48:06.480
<v Speaker 2>the very first singing line in that show. I got

757
00:48:06.599 --> 00:48:08.840
<v Speaker 2>chills the time I got to see him do it.

758
00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:13.159
<v Speaker 2>And that's actually where my theater world came full circle

759
00:48:14.000 --> 00:48:18.159
<v Speaker 2>because a young I mentioned that Hello Dolly from nineteen

760
00:48:18.280 --> 00:48:22.840
<v Speaker 2>eighty five with the votes, there was a young boy

761
00:48:22.920 --> 00:48:27.360
<v Speaker 2>named Jeffrey Denman that played one of the young boys

762
00:48:27.400 --> 00:48:32.480
<v Speaker 2>in the shop, just an extra. He played the same

763
00:48:32.599 --> 00:48:37.079
<v Speaker 2>role that my student played. He played it the closing

764
00:48:37.199 --> 00:48:40.920
<v Speaker 2>night of Cats, and he played it on the opening night.

765
00:48:41.159 --> 00:48:43.960
<v Speaker 2>That's the exact same roles.

766
00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:47.639
<v Speaker 1>That's that's some sweet certain depity right there. Yeah, that's

767
00:48:47.679 --> 00:48:53.280
<v Speaker 1>good stuff. Unbelievable. Now, when did you start doing You

768
00:48:53.320 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>said you started doing some background work. Would you Were

769
00:48:55.559 --> 00:48:57.599
<v Speaker 1>you doing that before you moved to Massachusetts or did

770
00:48:57.639 --> 00:48:58.840
<v Speaker 1>that start around that same time?

771
00:48:59.400 --> 00:49:03.440
<v Speaker 2>It actually started in two thousand and four. Okay, there

772
00:49:03.639 --> 00:49:09.320
<v Speaker 2>was a a cattle call. Yeah, we're making a movie

773
00:49:09.400 --> 00:49:16.079
<v Speaker 2>in Boston. We need people to be fans. They want

774
00:49:16.119 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 2>to come and be background as Boston Red Sox fans.

775
00:49:21.840 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, do you know.

776
00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:26.039
<v Speaker 2>The movie.

777
00:49:28.360 --> 00:49:30.480
<v Speaker 1>Uht Fever Pitch. It's got to be fever Pitch.

778
00:49:30.719 --> 00:49:33.480
<v Speaker 2>It's correct favor pitch about.

779
00:49:34.880 --> 00:49:39.119
<v Speaker 1>Like baseball movies and to be oh, it's got to

780
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:40.960
<v Speaker 1>be Fever Pitch because I know it's the year they

781
00:49:40.960 --> 00:49:44.079
<v Speaker 1>won the world right exactly when they made that, because

782
00:49:44.239 --> 00:49:46.679
<v Speaker 1>didn't they They didn't they change the ending of that

783
00:49:46.719 --> 00:49:49.559
<v Speaker 1>one because because they were supposed to lose again.

784
00:49:50.679 --> 00:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>It got me an extra day of work.

785
00:49:52.599 --> 00:49:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's what I like to hear.

786
00:49:54.880 --> 00:49:59.199
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I went to the cattle call and I

787
00:49:59.199 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>got picked to do one of the big crowd scenes.

788
00:50:02.639 --> 00:50:07.679
<v Speaker 2>And I was doing my thing and being the ADHD

789
00:50:08.239 --> 00:50:12.519
<v Speaker 2>theater geek that I was. I watch everything and can

790
00:50:12.599 --> 00:50:17.400
<v Speaker 2>do everything repeatedly the same way every time. And I

791
00:50:17.440 --> 00:50:23.519
<v Speaker 2>got noticed and they said are you available tomorrow? Like sure? Why,

792
00:50:23.639 --> 00:50:26.000
<v Speaker 2>he goes We had like fifty extras not show up

793
00:50:26.039 --> 00:50:29.360
<v Speaker 2>and we can use extra people when you come out.

794
00:50:30.199 --> 00:50:34.000
<v Speaker 2>So I went out, and I showed up the next

795
00:50:34.079 --> 00:50:36.480
<v Speaker 2>day and they said we're going to be shooting here

796
00:50:36.840 --> 00:50:40.480
<v Speaker 2>late at night. Okay, well I didn't know how late.

797
00:50:40.519 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 2>I was new to movies. That meant four a m. Yeah.

798
00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:49.559
<v Speaker 2>So at eleven o'clock, I got on my phone and

799
00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:55.599
<v Speaker 2>I'm politely calling my bride Honey, I'm going to be

800
00:50:55.679 --> 00:50:58.079
<v Speaker 2>running late. And then I see a bunch of people

801
00:50:58.159 --> 00:51:02.760
<v Speaker 2>pointing at me, and I'm thinking the worst because during

802
00:51:02.760 --> 00:51:06.199
<v Speaker 2>the production, people kept running to Jimmy Fallon and Drew

803
00:51:06.239 --> 00:51:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Barrymore with their phones trying to get pictures and all

804
00:51:10.360 --> 00:51:13.400
<v Speaker 2>of that, and they were essentially being fired on the spot.

805
00:51:13.559 --> 00:51:14.199
<v Speaker 1>Wow.

806
00:51:14.400 --> 00:51:16.599
<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking, oh, I'm going to be one of

807
00:51:16.639 --> 00:51:19.920
<v Speaker 2>those people kicked out. And they said, can you come

808
00:51:19.920 --> 00:51:25.079
<v Speaker 2>here for a minute. I'm like, sure, can you turn around? Okay?

809
00:51:29.360 --> 00:51:35.239
<v Speaker 2>And I hear from the second ad, how does that look? Guys?

810
00:51:37.239 --> 00:51:41.320
<v Speaker 2>It looks good. Okay, I'll ask him and the second

811
00:51:41.320 --> 00:51:46.400
<v Speaker 2>ad Dave says, So, we shot a live scene in

812
00:51:46.559 --> 00:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>an actual Red Sox game last night. The actor that

813
00:51:51.119 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 2>was sitting in one of the seats didn't come back,

814
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:57.239
<v Speaker 2>but we only shot him from the back. We never

815
00:51:57.320 --> 00:52:01.400
<v Speaker 2>saw his face. Wouldn't you be willing to sit in

816
00:52:01.440 --> 00:52:08.360
<v Speaker 2>a seat and be on camera? Yeah? Man, sure, And

817
00:52:08.400 --> 00:52:10.639
<v Speaker 2>they said, we'll sit off to the side. We'll tell

818
00:52:10.639 --> 00:52:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you when we need you to come sit in a seat,

819
00:52:14.440 --> 00:52:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and the second team stepped out and came in Jimmy

820
00:52:19.360 --> 00:52:23.719
<v Speaker 2>Fallon and all of the first teamers. And at one point,

821
00:52:24.199 --> 00:52:26.199
<v Speaker 2>Jimmy's like, where's the guy that sits in front of me?

822
00:52:26.559 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 2>And he goes always sitting to your right, and Jimmy

823
00:52:28.920 --> 00:52:31.119
<v Speaker 2>looked at and said, oh, I'm Jimmy. I was like,

824
00:52:31.639 --> 00:52:34.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm Glenn. He goes, nice to me. Youa welcome to

825
00:52:35.000 --> 00:52:38.239
<v Speaker 2>the team. And I got twelve more days out of

826
00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:38.599
<v Speaker 2>sitting in.

827
00:52:38.599 --> 00:52:44.639
<v Speaker 1>Front of it. That's some good stuff right there. That's great.

828
00:52:45.400 --> 00:52:48.599
<v Speaker 2>So you know, and that was the start of my

829
00:52:48.639 --> 00:52:54.159
<v Speaker 2>film career. But you know, I through my film and

830
00:52:54.239 --> 00:52:57.480
<v Speaker 2>TV career, I got to work with some incredible people

831
00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:59.360
<v Speaker 2>and watch them work.

832
00:52:59.559 --> 00:53:02.960
<v Speaker 1>And now I want to put in just to get

833
00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:06.639
<v Speaker 1>everything in context here, when when did the were you

834
00:53:06.719 --> 00:53:08.840
<v Speaker 1>by this point? Were you refereeing yet? Or were you

835
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:10.599
<v Speaker 1>or were you No?

836
00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.519
<v Speaker 2>It's because of working as a background extra. I actually

837
00:53:15.559 --> 00:53:18.800
<v Speaker 2>rid a couple of professional that's right, that's right, called

838
00:53:18.840 --> 00:53:23.280
<v Speaker 2>professional wrestler. Actually guys that came out of the Killer

839
00:53:23.360 --> 00:53:24.360
<v Speaker 2>Kowalski School.

840
00:53:24.599 --> 00:53:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Hey, they said.

841
00:53:26.840 --> 00:53:29.159
<v Speaker 2>You know, come out and watch us. Of course, you know,

842
00:53:29.440 --> 00:53:30.239
<v Speaker 2>it's fun theater.

843
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:36.360
<v Speaker 1>That's great, that's that's great. Now, how did let's we'll

844
00:53:36.360 --> 00:53:39.760
<v Speaker 1>get to the moment the reason we're here too, the

845
00:53:39.800 --> 00:53:44.000
<v Speaker 1>other reason we're here Spotlight? How did how did that

846
00:53:44.039 --> 00:53:46.239
<v Speaker 1>all come about? Because I'll tell you I I found

847
00:53:46.239 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 1>you in Spotlight. I know I could see. I found

848
00:53:48.440 --> 00:53:51.599
<v Speaker 1>you a great seat. I'll tell you that. I don't

849
00:53:51.599 --> 00:53:52.800
<v Speaker 1>know about for the ball game or not, but you

850
00:53:52.840 --> 00:53:55.800
<v Speaker 1>had a great seat to be in this movie.

851
00:53:54.639 --> 00:54:02.440
<v Speaker 2>That I absolutely did. So, you know, I toiled for

852
00:54:03.400 --> 00:54:06.280
<v Speaker 2>you know, years and years in the background, but you know,

853
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:12.360
<v Speaker 2>got known by local casting agents in Boston, whether it

854
00:54:12.400 --> 00:54:17.920
<v Speaker 2>was Boston Casting or Carolyn Pickman or Rhode Island Casting.

855
00:54:18.119 --> 00:54:22.760
<v Speaker 2>And I went to an open call once again for Spotlight.

856
00:54:22.800 --> 00:54:26.039
<v Speaker 2>And I walked in and they said, thank you very much.

857
00:54:27.880 --> 00:54:32.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you mind working late at night? No, we have

858
00:54:32.800 --> 00:54:36.159
<v Speaker 2>a big crowd scene coming up. It's in fen May Park.

859
00:54:38.239 --> 00:54:43.960
<v Speaker 2>I said, okay, old hat for you and it shoots Friday. Okay.

860
00:54:44.119 --> 00:54:48.400
<v Speaker 2>I took the day off from work, you know, showed

861
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:51.960
<v Speaker 2>up to you know, they said, well, the scene takes

862
00:54:52.000 --> 00:54:57.360
<v Speaker 2>place in the early two thousands, so please bring red

863
00:54:57.360 --> 00:55:01.400
<v Speaker 2>Sox gear because you know it will help ward. And

864
00:55:02.960 --> 00:55:05.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a little guy, as you can see from

865
00:55:05.280 --> 00:55:08.239
<v Speaker 2>my pictures. I know JP's checked it out. Peter and

866
00:55:08.280 --> 00:55:10.880
<v Speaker 2>Paul and I are all about the same size. And

867
00:55:13.039 --> 00:55:15.239
<v Speaker 2>I showed up with my what I call my bag

868
00:55:15.280 --> 00:55:20.119
<v Speaker 2>of wonders. I bring my own wardrobe because I want

869
00:55:20.159 --> 00:55:21.360
<v Speaker 2>stuff that fits.

870
00:55:21.599 --> 00:55:23.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, And I add just.

871
00:55:23.239 --> 00:55:26.119
<v Speaker 2>A stupid red Sox shirt that I think I got

872
00:55:26.159 --> 00:55:28.039
<v Speaker 2>it Savers for ninety nine cents.

873
00:55:28.159 --> 00:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>That thing is that thing is a is a work

874
00:55:31.000 --> 00:55:32.800
<v Speaker 1>of art in many ways.

875
00:55:33.519 --> 00:55:36.400
<v Speaker 2>And they said, oh, that's too new. I went, oh no,

876
00:55:36.480 --> 00:55:39.599
<v Speaker 2>I just threw this on underneath, just to so you

877
00:55:39.679 --> 00:55:41.719
<v Speaker 2>knew I was working on the film. But I have

878
00:55:42.360 --> 00:55:45.519
<v Speaker 2>a bag of wardrobe here. They said, well, let me

879
00:55:45.519 --> 00:55:47.880
<v Speaker 2>see what you brought. And I opened it up and

880
00:55:47.920 --> 00:55:51.719
<v Speaker 2>they went, are you kidding me? Like what she goes?

881
00:55:52.679 --> 00:55:54.679
<v Speaker 2>You have a Red Sox Hawaiian shirt.

882
00:55:55.000 --> 00:55:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's the one. That's what I'm talking about. That's

883
00:55:56.760 --> 00:55:58.320
<v Speaker 1>the one that's the work of art right there. That's

884
00:55:58.360 --> 00:55:58.800
<v Speaker 1>what I'm.

885
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Give me that she goes. But I'm not sure. I said, well,

886
00:56:03.280 --> 00:56:07.239
<v Speaker 2>would you like it open with like the plane T

887
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:12.119
<v Speaker 2>blue T shirt underneath? Oh my god, pants, I said,

888
00:56:12.199 --> 00:56:14.199
<v Speaker 2>pleaded ones are two thousand and four right, and they

889
00:56:14.199 --> 00:56:19.760
<v Speaker 2>we're like everybody that's in line back here. This is

890
00:56:19.800 --> 00:56:25.119
<v Speaker 2>the stuff you were supposed to bring. They said, pleaseeet

891
00:56:25.199 --> 00:56:30.960
<v Speaker 2>dressed as quickly as you can. Terrific and they I

892
00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:35.360
<v Speaker 2>went and changed and I was standing and they picked

893
00:56:35.400 --> 00:56:37.519
<v Speaker 2>twenty five of us out and they put us up

894
00:56:37.519 --> 00:56:41.760
<v Speaker 2>against the wall and the director went by and went, yep, yep, yep, yeap.

895
00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh absolutely. Then wardrobe comes over and goes, you're taking him,

896
00:56:47.000 --> 00:56:50.000
<v Speaker 2>aren't you, And he goes, oh yeah, And they take

897
00:56:50.079 --> 00:56:53.599
<v Speaker 2>me over and they put me one hundred feet away

898
00:56:53.599 --> 00:57:00.320
<v Speaker 2>from camera. Nice. Really. Wardrobe came over and went, I

899
00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:02.599
<v Speaker 2>don't know what they're doing, but we know what we're doing.

900
00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:06.480
<v Speaker 2>And they plopped me in a seat. And the girl

901
00:57:06.559 --> 00:57:10.719
<v Speaker 2>that's next to me, Cindy, and I had done probably

902
00:57:10.800 --> 00:57:12.800
<v Speaker 2>ten films together. They're like, this is going to be

903
00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.880
<v Speaker 2>your girlfriend for the season. Okay. I said, Hi, Cindy,

904
00:57:16.880 --> 00:57:18.719
<v Speaker 2>how are you? She went, I'm good? How are you?

905
00:57:18.800 --> 00:57:21.199
<v Speaker 2>I said. She's like, how's your wife? I'm good? Where's

906
00:57:21.199 --> 00:57:25.119
<v Speaker 2>your husband? Oh? Sorry, boyfriend? She's like, oh, he's back

907
00:57:25.159 --> 00:57:29.239
<v Speaker 2>there doing audio. And we sat down and I noticed

908
00:57:29.519 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 2>in front of us was tape and I went, Cindy,

909
00:57:36.760 --> 00:57:40.119
<v Speaker 2>we're in great seats? Why? I went and I heard

910
00:57:40.280 --> 00:57:43.880
<v Speaker 2>second team in and then comes and they sat in

911
00:57:43.880 --> 00:57:47.239
<v Speaker 2>front of us and went, oh, this is going to

912
00:57:47.320 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 2>be fun. Cindy goes, second team is directly in front

913
00:57:50.199 --> 00:57:54.360
<v Speaker 2>of us. Yay. And the second team came in and

914
00:57:54.400 --> 00:57:57.199
<v Speaker 2>I happened to know one of the second team, and

915
00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:02.159
<v Speaker 2>I said, what are you in for? Jimmy, what are

916
00:58:02.159 --> 00:58:04.119
<v Speaker 2>you went for? He goes, I don't know, some some

917
00:58:05.440 --> 00:58:10.119
<v Speaker 2>Brian James guy. And my mouth fell open. I went,

918
00:58:11.079 --> 00:58:13.199
<v Speaker 2>are you standing in for Brian Darcy James? He goes,

919
00:58:13.400 --> 00:58:16.679
<v Speaker 2>should I know who he is? Oh? My god, yes.

920
00:58:18.320 --> 00:58:21.280
<v Speaker 2>So they come in, they're shooting the scenes and I

921
00:58:21.320 --> 00:58:23.559
<v Speaker 2>and by the way, am I allowed to swear on

922
00:58:23.599 --> 00:58:23.880
<v Speaker 2>your path?

923
00:58:23.960 --> 00:58:24.480
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely?

924
00:58:25.079 --> 00:58:29.519
<v Speaker 2>All right? So this is a memorable. We actually shot

925
00:58:29.679 --> 00:58:34.480
<v Speaker 2>during a Tampa Bay Ray's Red Sox game, so there

926
00:58:34.519 --> 00:58:40.039
<v Speaker 2>are live fans around us the whole time. And we

927
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:44.280
<v Speaker 2>cut and the resetting and a guy goes down the aisle,

928
00:58:45.079 --> 00:58:51.840
<v Speaker 2>looks back and sees Mark Ruffalo, and in typical southy Boston,

929
00:58:51.920 --> 00:58:57.639
<v Speaker 2>he goes, all the shit, fucking mock ruffles correct, what

930
00:58:57.679 --> 00:59:04.119
<v Speaker 2>the fuck are you drinking? He goes, oduls, he goes,

931
00:59:04.239 --> 00:59:10.000
<v Speaker 2>get the fuck out. He went the bar, got him

932
00:59:10.360 --> 00:59:17.559
<v Speaker 2>a regular beer and and the whole time, anytime we cut,

933
00:59:17.599 --> 00:59:20.719
<v Speaker 2>anytime there was a break, people were trying to get

934
00:59:20.719 --> 00:59:25.440
<v Speaker 2>their pictures taken with Mark Ruffalo, of course, and Cindy

935
00:59:25.480 --> 00:59:29.559
<v Speaker 2>and I we are pranksters. We've had fun with each

936
00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:33.960
<v Speaker 2>other on every set we've ever worked on. Whatever possessed us.

937
00:59:34.039 --> 00:59:38.800
<v Speaker 2>We went, excuse me, mister Ruffalo, are we allowed to

938
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:44.000
<v Speaker 2>photo bomb? He went, oh god, please do that. He goes,

939
00:59:45.159 --> 00:59:49.519
<v Speaker 2>if their photo bomb, maybe they don't get out there. Yeah, right, yeah,

940
00:59:50.760 --> 00:59:54.960
<v Speaker 2>every picture we could. That's amazing, that's so great. And

941
00:59:55.000 --> 00:59:58.400
<v Speaker 2>in the meantime, Brian Darcy James is standing there just

942
00:59:58.440 --> 01:00:01.960
<v Speaker 2>going no one knows who I am. Until I turned

943
01:00:01.960 --> 01:00:05.320
<v Speaker 2>to him and said, hi, Brian, does no one want

944
01:00:05.320 --> 01:00:07.239
<v Speaker 2>their picture taking him with a Broadway star? He goes,

945
01:00:07.920 --> 01:00:11.519
<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a Broadway star, Brian. One of your

946
01:00:11.559 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 2>best friends in New York is one of my best friends.

947
01:00:15.079 --> 01:00:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And he goes, wait, who is that? And I mentioned

948
01:00:18.960 --> 01:00:22.280
<v Speaker 2>a gentleman from Buffalo that he had just done White

949
01:00:22.360 --> 01:00:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Christmas with and he goes, oh god, I don't remember

950
01:00:26.519 --> 01:00:29.400
<v Speaker 2>the last time. I said when you shot the commercial

951
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:32.559
<v Speaker 2>for his app, and he went all of a sudden,

952
01:00:32.599 --> 01:00:35.719
<v Speaker 2>the little lights went on for Brian. He went, you're

953
01:00:35.719 --> 01:00:39.239
<v Speaker 2>at White Christmas. You're friends with Jeff, You're also friends

954
01:00:39.280 --> 01:00:42.679
<v Speaker 2>with Dennis. We've met it, Shrek, We've meant Oh my god.

955
01:00:42.679 --> 01:00:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I feel so bad that I'm like, you meet thousands

956
01:00:45.000 --> 01:00:49.400
<v Speaker 2>of people. I get it, but you know it was

957
01:00:49.639 --> 01:00:53.360
<v Speaker 2>it was a moment for you know. And then I

958
01:00:53.360 --> 01:00:59.760
<v Speaker 2>saw him eight months later in Something Rotten at the

959
01:00:59.760 --> 01:01:01.639
<v Speaker 2>stage as door. He came out and I got a

960
01:01:01.760 --> 01:01:03.920
<v Speaker 2>hug for you.

961
01:01:06.440 --> 01:01:06.920
<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

962
01:01:08.119 --> 01:01:11.039
<v Speaker 2>I did a movie with him. They're like, what's no

963
01:01:11.159 --> 01:01:14.840
<v Speaker 2>big deal on your part of it. I'm like, yeah,

964
01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm a background. I don't care.

965
01:01:18.079 --> 01:01:22.639
<v Speaker 1>Hey, listen exactly. You know, hey, you sat right behind him.

966
01:01:22.719 --> 01:01:24.960
<v Speaker 1>You know you sat right behind him. That can't say

967
01:01:25.119 --> 01:01:27.639
<v Speaker 1>you're on camera. You're on camera quite a bit. You

968
01:01:27.679 --> 01:01:28.960
<v Speaker 1>get a good amount of stream time.

969
01:01:29.519 --> 01:01:33.719
<v Speaker 2>I I appreciated the screen time Immntally. I can't tell

970
01:01:33.719 --> 01:01:35.920
<v Speaker 2>you how many times I've been on the cutting room floor.

971
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, I was in uh bride Wars where the

972
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:48.559
<v Speaker 2>main male characters, the boyfriends, had a scene right behind

973
01:01:48.639 --> 01:01:51.920
<v Speaker 2>us at the table, and the scene got completely cut

974
01:01:52.000 --> 01:01:55.440
<v Speaker 2>of and put on the on the floor because an

975
01:01:55.440 --> 01:01:56.960
<v Speaker 2>extra kept talking during the.

976
01:01:56.880 --> 01:01:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Sum I'll do it.

977
01:02:00.119 --> 01:02:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh, but I am going to promote myself here. I did.

978
01:02:05.199 --> 01:02:08.920
<v Speaker 2>After twenty years, I finally got my big break last

979
01:02:09.000 --> 01:02:13.320
<v Speaker 2>year and somebody foolishly gave me a speaking line in

980
01:02:13.360 --> 01:02:14.480
<v Speaker 2>a major film.

981
01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:16.079
<v Speaker 1>What was it? What is it? Tell me?

982
01:02:16.639 --> 01:02:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Film is called The Panic. It is set in nineteen

983
01:02:20.880 --> 01:02:25.719
<v Speaker 2>oh seven and its stars carry Always.

984
01:02:26.239 --> 01:02:27.239
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I love that.

985
01:02:28.119 --> 01:02:30.159
<v Speaker 3>That one qualifies for under the cinema.

986
01:02:30.119 --> 01:02:32.320
<v Speaker 1>Right, exactly. Absolutely, we're always.

987
01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:33.360
<v Speaker 3>Looking for wrestler connections.

988
01:02:33.559 --> 01:02:35.679
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna bring you back for

989
01:02:35.760 --> 01:02:37.760
<v Speaker 1>that at some point for sure.

990
01:02:37.840 --> 01:02:41.039
<v Speaker 2>I know it's been almost a year. I think what

991
01:02:41.079 --> 01:02:43.079
<v Speaker 2>they're looking for is distribution.

992
01:02:43.320 --> 01:02:43.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

993
01:02:43.920 --> 01:02:49.199
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's certainly not lacking of star power because it

994
01:02:49.280 --> 01:02:54.360
<v Speaker 2>has carry Always. It has Malcolm McDowell and Bellamy.

995
01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:01.239
<v Speaker 1>The stars are Jefferson, the castle's right now, that's uh,

996
01:03:01.480 --> 01:03:05.480
<v Speaker 1>Tim Daley, that's a. That's a that's a great jost.

997
01:03:06.360 --> 01:03:08.400
<v Speaker 1>That's my kind of cast. Honestly, that's that's the kind

998
01:03:08.400 --> 01:03:10.199
<v Speaker 1>of cast that I like. And they'll scroll down and

999
01:03:10.199 --> 01:03:17.159
<v Speaker 1>see security guards. I love it. I love it. That's great.

1000
01:03:18.239 --> 01:03:22.280
<v Speaker 1>There was something I wanted to say about Uberguy, and

1001
01:03:23.920 --> 01:03:27.760
<v Speaker 1>I feel like even in the movie, Brian Darcy James

1002
01:03:27.800 --> 01:03:31.119
<v Speaker 1>is treated kind of like the the Broadway guy that

1003
01:03:31.599 --> 01:03:34.280
<v Speaker 1>nobody really knows because in all the scenes, if you

1004
01:03:34.320 --> 01:03:37.400
<v Speaker 1>ever notice, in all the scenes, he's always got an

1005
01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:41.440
<v Speaker 1>excuse to walk away before the real scene happens in

1006
01:03:41.480 --> 01:03:43.519
<v Speaker 1>that in that scene right in the scene of the ballpark,

1007
01:03:43.639 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 1>like you get four guys right there, right, they're all talking, talking, talking,

1008
01:03:47.320 --> 01:03:50.199
<v Speaker 1>but before John Slattery and Mark Ruffalo are going to

1009
01:03:50.199 --> 01:03:52.920
<v Speaker 1>talk about the real meat of the scene, Brian Darcy

1010
01:03:53.000 --> 01:03:54.760
<v Speaker 1>James say Hey, I'm gonna get some food. Anyone want anything?

1011
01:03:54.760 --> 01:03:56.960
<v Speaker 1>And he's gone, and I said, he's done, doesn't come back,

1012
01:03:56.960 --> 01:03:58.559
<v Speaker 1>and he does that all throughout the movie. They just

1013
01:03:58.639 --> 01:04:03.079
<v Speaker 1>kind of throw him away. It's it's so, it's a

1014
01:04:03.199 --> 01:04:05.239
<v Speaker 1>wild thing, just kind of short change there.

1015
01:04:05.440 --> 01:04:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, well, anymore than I was a big Smash fan,

1016
01:04:11.760 --> 01:04:14.639
<v Speaker 2>he is the only major Broadway star in that entire

1017
01:04:14.679 --> 01:04:18.679
<v Speaker 2>show to never sing on that show ever.

1018
01:04:19.159 --> 01:04:21.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I never even thought of that. That's wild.

1019
01:04:21.559 --> 01:04:24.519
<v Speaker 1>I never thought of that. He doesn't sing ever.

1020
01:04:27.079 --> 01:04:29.639
<v Speaker 2>You know, He's gone on to do such wonderful things.

1021
01:04:29.679 --> 01:04:35.039
<v Speaker 2>And I'm desperate because I'm in Buffalo. I am desperate

1022
01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:39.599
<v Speaker 2>to have one moment with Josh Allen's fiancee to go. So,

1023
01:04:39.639 --> 01:04:44.079
<v Speaker 2>what's it like to have my friend Brian Darcy James

1024
01:04:44.079 --> 01:04:47.760
<v Speaker 2>play your father on Hawkeye?

1025
01:04:48.920 --> 01:04:49.639
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing.

1026
01:04:50.000 --> 01:04:53.840
<v Speaker 2>He's in it for what five minutes and he's dead.

1027
01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:01.239
<v Speaker 1>That's crazy.

1028
01:05:02.079 --> 01:05:03.199
<v Speaker 2>Smile Haley is.

1029
01:05:05.400 --> 01:05:14.000
<v Speaker 1>Yep, God in Buffalo. That's that's wild. That's wild. Well, hey, uh,

1030
01:05:14.119 --> 01:05:16.679
<v Speaker 1>I want to say big thank you, Glenn. This has

1031
01:05:16.760 --> 01:05:22.199
<v Speaker 1>been absolutely amazing, absolute treat to hear all you know, uh,

1032
01:05:22.239 --> 01:05:25.519
<v Speaker 1>some of your wrestling stories, and to hear about the

1033
01:05:25.800 --> 01:05:27.880
<v Speaker 1>you know a few stories from your movie career and

1034
01:05:28.039 --> 01:05:31.360
<v Speaker 1>your past. I I can tell you right now, when

1035
01:05:31.400 --> 01:05:33.960
<v Speaker 1>we get to another movie that you're featured in, probably

1036
01:05:34.119 --> 01:05:37.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm gonna aim at this one, the uh the

1037
01:05:37.360 --> 01:05:40.199
<v Speaker 1>Panic when that comes out and when and we're able

1038
01:05:40.199 --> 01:05:43.360
<v Speaker 1>to watch it, I'm gonna I'm gonna probably bring you

1039
01:05:43.400 --> 01:05:44.880
<v Speaker 1>back on so we can talk about that a little

1040
01:05:44.920 --> 01:05:45.280
<v Speaker 1>bit more.

1041
01:05:45.719 --> 01:05:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Oh. Absolutely, Yeah, there's some inside scoop to to how

1042
01:05:52.800 --> 01:05:53.599
<v Speaker 2>I got the rule.

1043
01:05:54.400 --> 01:05:56.639
<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm going to say that to say that, I

1044
01:05:56.760 --> 01:05:57.440
<v Speaker 1>got to say.

1045
01:05:57.280 --> 01:05:59.519
<v Speaker 2>That, I'm giving the cliffhanger.

1046
01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:02.639
<v Speaker 3>Well, that's how you know he was in the wrestling business.

1047
01:06:04.159 --> 01:06:05.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm building that story.

1048
01:06:05.519 --> 01:06:08.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, locking in that next appearance too, we're innicely done.

1049
01:06:10.960 --> 01:06:12.519
<v Speaker 1>Great stuff. Thanks again man.

1050
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:18.199
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, absolutely thank you and uh all my best.

1051
01:06:18.199 --> 01:06:20.920
<v Speaker 1>There is a succeeding preceeding. There is a production of

1052
01:06:21.039 --> 01:06:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the Labs Entertainment Group. It's content is intended for reven

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