Speaker 1: Coffee.
Speaker 2: All right, let's get it started at five o'clock hour
Speaker 2: here on a Friday afternoon, day two of the best
Speaker 2: two day stretch that you're gonna get in sports. And
Speaker 2: I do love that even those that will acknowledge how
Speaker 2: much they love the NFL or college football more than
Speaker 2: college basketball, Like you don't even have to be a
Speaker 2: college basketball super fan like us to realize what these
Speaker 2: two days are. And obviously yesterday sucked for Louisville being
Speaker 2: the first team eliminated. I mean, just you know, a
Speaker 2: real real gut punch. I did watch games last night,
Speaker 2: but I was still kind of down on the dumps.
Speaker 2: But today, as soon as the game started, I had
Speaker 2: some reflection and nothing you know changed as far as
Speaker 2: my feeling about the season, the future of that kind
Speaker 2: of stuff. But just I guess the sadness it kind
Speaker 2: of worn't off because despite it sucking being over and
Speaker 2: you being the first team out. I can't even if
Speaker 2: I wanted to be, even if I wanted to be like,
Speaker 2: you know, against the grain, shock jock kind of guy
Speaker 2: to be negative to get reaction, I couldn't. I'm not
Speaker 2: a good faker anyway, But like I wouldn't be able
Speaker 2: to do it because I still think this season overall,
Speaker 2: as I hoped would happen, no matter what the result
Speaker 2: was going to be in the tournament. I mean, I
Speaker 2: was in love with this team, you know, not in
Speaker 2: that way, but I don't know, maybe kind of because
Speaker 2: I've never felt I've never felt this way about a
Speaker 2: team before, and it's just because of unusual circumstance that
Speaker 2: you know, we never thought we'd run into, of course,
Speaker 2: But I hate the Louisville season ended, and that sucks overall,
Speaker 2: but I'm still enjoying the first two days of the
Speaker 2: tournament and what if. I mean, we haven't had a
Speaker 2: Cinderella just yet. I mean, I think the biggest upsets
Speaker 2: are McNee state, and I'm sure the casuals out there
Speaker 2: they look at that as big upset because five twelve
Speaker 2: is a big upset. But like if you know Will
Speaker 2: Wade and you know his roster and how he built
Speaker 2: it and you know Clemson, that that's not that big
Speaker 2: of an upset, Like I mean, I did, I didn't
Speaker 2: predict it, but it also isn't a bit Actually I
Speaker 2: did in my bracket, I did pick McNeice to win,
Speaker 2: but it was actually more so because I don't.
Speaker 3: I don't.
Speaker 2: I wasn't that impressed with Clemson, and I wanted to
Speaker 2: be able to believe that when Louisill be Clemson, they
Speaker 2: were really doing something. I never felt that at all.
Speaker 2: That's not to say that Clemson was bad, and certainly
Speaker 2: I'm not saying Louisville beating them means they're bad, because
Speaker 2: all you can do is control who you play. But
Speaker 2: Clemson losing yesterday, I mean they were down thirty one
Speaker 2: to thirteen. A McNeice ended up making it more competitive,
Speaker 2: but it was ugly. So I guess Missouri losing to
Speaker 2: Drake another one that the casuals are calling an upset,
Speaker 2: but it's not if you know, the circumstance still an upset,
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that, like, you know, everybody should
Speaker 2: have expected it, but you also can't be There's a
Speaker 2: difference in like expecting something but also just not being
Speaker 2: surprised when something happens, right, Like, the expectation probably was
Speaker 2: for both Missouri and Clemson to win, But in the
Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, who's really that shocked. I would
Speaker 2: say the McNeese past win is honestly more of a
Speaker 2: non surprise based off of both factors, I think Missouri
Speaker 2: losing to Drake it's more of, I guess, a confirmation
Speaker 2: that Drake was for real and you know, they probably
Speaker 2: shouldn't have even been in eleventh seed, you know, if
Speaker 2: we're being honest. So again, final hour here before we
Speaker 2: get out of here, and when we come back on Monday,
Speaker 2: we will have the Sweet sixteen finalized. I think the
Speaker 2: biggest takeaway from yesterday is that we are gonna, in
Speaker 2: fact get the Rick Bettine overs John Caliperry second round matchup,
Speaker 2: and I really I want to take Rick, but I
Speaker 2: think calin Arkansas, it's really the Cali Perry component. It's
Speaker 2: not even that I'm not confident in Rick, because Rick,
Speaker 2: honestly overall has been a really good tournament coach his
Speaker 2: entire career. I mean, we're talking about somebody that objectively speaking,
Speaker 2: you could make the case that other than John wood
Speaker 2: and based off of John Wooden's insane amount of national championships,
Speaker 2: Rick Ptino's the best college basketball coach we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: I think him having Saint John's here in the round
Speaker 2: of thirty as a two seed in the tournament and
Speaker 2: then winning their first regular season and Big East Conference
Speaker 2: championship in forty years. It's just another I mean, Rick
Speaker 2: didn't even have to do that for you to make
Speaker 2: the case that the guy's phenomenal and he's one of
Speaker 2: the best ever. So I just think Cali Perry, what
Speaker 2: he has to work with that's always been his edge
Speaker 2: is young NBA talent, and that is made up at
Speaker 2: times for his lack of x's and o's. But I
Speaker 2: think another thing is Cal This is a week I'm
Speaker 2: gonna compliment him as much as he has seemingly underachieved
Speaker 2: based off of all the NBA players he's had and
Speaker 2: teams that have lost in the tournament at Kentucky that
Speaker 2: really had no business losing to the team they lost to.
Speaker 2: I do think no other coach has really had the
Speaker 2: same success as he's had with that with those type
Speaker 2: of teams, Right Like, even if he lost early in
Speaker 2: the time tournament, or choked in the Final four, choked
Speaker 2: in the Sweet sixteen or the Elite eight, he still
Speaker 2: got them to the point that I think other coaches
Speaker 2: just aren't really built to maximize like Cal is built
Speaker 2: to deal with those kind of teams. The issue now
Speaker 2: is that that's not really the way to do it
Speaker 2: anymore in college basketball because of the differences. Now you
Speaker 2: can go build old teams that will easily be able
Speaker 2: to at times, you know, make up for the fact that, yeah,
Speaker 2: this dude's eighteen going to be a top three pick
Speaker 2: in the NBA draft. This guy's twenty three, has a
Speaker 2: child and is a grown ass man like and also,
Speaker 2: by the way, a really good college basketball player. So
Speaker 2: it just builds up to where Cal can use the
Speaker 2: it's me against Rick Patino. He's my rival, and they're
Speaker 2: the two seed, were the ten, Let's go do something here,
Speaker 2: just like when he walked into Rupp Arena with a
Speaker 2: team that had one win in the SEC at that time,
Speaker 2: that had lost their best player, Boogie Fland injury. Kentucky
Speaker 2: clearly in every aspect better than better than Arkansas. But
Speaker 2: Cal had his guys performing and playing with an edge
Speaker 2: that you see from Caliperry coach teams in these moments.
Speaker 2: And that's why I just think Saint John's I wouldn't
Speaker 2: bet them to lose, but I think I think the
Speaker 2: line here, and we already had it mentioned earlier. I
Speaker 2: already forgot what it was. Let me pull it up
Speaker 2: here on the on the DraftKings sportsbook app. So yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean Arkansas plus six and a half. I'm sure
Speaker 2: I'll talk myself in and out of it over the
Speaker 2: next twenty four hours before we get there, but I
Speaker 2: do like Arkansas plus six and a half. It's gonna
Speaker 2: feel gross, right because any other time it's been Rick
Speaker 2: versus Cal, I'm a lunatic and like i'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm not well, and I also think that to be fair,
Speaker 2: and this is different. It's not Kentucky, it's not Louisville,
Speaker 2: but Cali Perry had an impact on Rick during those games.
Speaker 2: I mean when Rick was coaching against Kentucky, when it
Speaker 2: was Tubby, when it was Billy. When you won, you
Speaker 2: were just better. When you lost, they were just better.
Speaker 2: And clearly of those two coaches, you know, the final era,
Speaker 2: if you will, of Tubby and then Billy. Obviously Cal
Speaker 2: was always putting better teams on the floor, but Rick
Speaker 2: was different about going up against Cal in Kentucky. And yes,
Speaker 2: both things were a factor. It's because it's his former
Speaker 2: employer who he probably regretted leaving, and his rival, a
Speaker 2: guy he hates, became the coach and became super successful there.
Speaker 2: So both things made it to where Rick was tight
Speaker 2: in those games. His players will tell you that too.
Speaker 2: By the way, Rick was always going to demand the
Speaker 2: absolute most. He was going to coach you hard as
Speaker 2: can be. But he became a lunatic leading up to
Speaker 2: those games, and it was because of what that game
Speaker 2: did to him. He was never comfortable and it rubbed
Speaker 2: off on his players at times. He's not coaching Kentucky,
Speaker 2: but there's still that element for both of these guys.
Speaker 2: For Cal, he would love nothing more than to have
Speaker 2: everybody making fun of him. I mean, think about this.
Speaker 2: For Cal, think about and what I'm doing here is
Speaker 2: I'm talking up a scenario that seemed unlikely that actually
Speaker 2: did play out when he went into rupt and beat
Speaker 2: their ass. That game really wasn't close in the second half.
Speaker 2: And again at the time Arkansas was one and seven
Speaker 2: in the league, Kentucky was, you know, top ten team.
Speaker 2: Well now where Cal really? You know, Cal can get complacent,
Speaker 2: Cal can get arrogant. Clearly he's stubborn. He doesn't make
Speaker 2: adjustments all that stuff. But he's been he like the
Speaker 2: last few years at Kentucky, embarrassing losses to Saint Peter's
Speaker 2: in Oakland. And also, you know what what started to
Speaker 2: happen for Cali Perry. It started to be not something
Speaker 2: you should brag about. Bro, you got all these dudes
Speaker 2: in the NBA, two top five picks, and you lost
Speaker 2: to Saint Peter's in Oakland. Like it became something you
Speaker 2: should just not put out there as much because it
Speaker 2: makes you look bad. Like Cal's Cal really got stale,
Speaker 2: and and you know not he was no he no
Speaker 2: longer had that factor. In fact, his arrogance became a
Speaker 2: joke because people wouldn't like, how could you be argan
Speaker 2: when you lose to these teams? And how could you
Speaker 2: be arrogant when you have all these NBA players and
Speaker 2: you went on a big draft to go to the
Speaker 2: final four, you only have one title. Well, now here
Speaker 2: he is at Arkansas, they get in as a ten seed.
Speaker 2: They were laughed at all year, and now he's got
Speaker 2: a chance to take out a two seed, a guy
Speaker 2: who he despises, who is now being viewed with what
Speaker 2: he's done at Saint John's as the best college basketball
Speaker 2: coach of the modern era, the best coach since John Wooden.
Speaker 2: You don't think Cal's gonna be ready to go tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I mean doesn't mean they're gonna win, but I just
Speaker 2: I think the way this lines up, it's gonna be
Speaker 2: a close game. And with that, I think that would
Speaker 2: mean that that that Arkansas would cover. All right, so
Speaker 2: far today, here are your results in day two of
Speaker 2: the of the NCAA tournament. We've got let's see which game. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the games that have already concluded. Duke had no trouble
Speaker 2: with Mount Saint Mary's. They won ninety three to forty nine.
Speaker 2: Colorado State the twelve seed, they win seventy eight to
Speaker 2: seventy over Memphis. I still believe Memphis was just happs.
Speaker 2: They just made a goof and swapped Memphis and Louisville.
Speaker 2: That's what happened. Iowa State, no trouble with Lipscomb. That
Speaker 2: was a real trendy upset pick or at least a cover.
Speaker 2: Iowa State covered the fourteen and a half and it
Speaker 2: was ugly. Eighty two to fifty five was the score.
Speaker 2: I'd say the biggest talking point up to right now
Speaker 2: is that Alabama needed that last segment of play to
Speaker 2: to to get past Robert Morris. Ninety to eighty one
Speaker 2: was the score. It was a one or two point
Speaker 2: game with about four minutes left. I never felt like
Speaker 2: Alabama was gonna lose. But Alabama, to me are the most.
Speaker 2: They are the best most, they're the best inconsistent team
Speaker 2: because I wouldn't be shocked if they beat anybody by
Speaker 2: a lot of points. I also can't say I'd be
Speaker 2: shocked if they lose in the round of thirty two,
Speaker 2: just because you just don't know what you're gonna get
Speaker 2: with them. Also, Baylor outlasted Mississippi State, so Baylor's gonna
Speaker 2: get Duke in the second round. I talked about it earlier.
Speaker 2: I'm not ready to predict Baylor to beat Duke, but
Speaker 2: I think Duke, I'm sorry. Baylor has some personnel, really
Speaker 2: just overall talent that is going to challenge Duke like
Speaker 2: they haven't been challenged since they played Auburn. And that
Speaker 2: says a lot about the ACC But it also says
Speaker 2: a lot about Baylor being a team that really has
Speaker 2: no business as a non seed because they have Nord Chadowmere,
Speaker 2: one of the best bigs in the country. He guy
Speaker 2: who's played the Final four at Miami Edgecombe is the
Speaker 2: best freshman that nobody talks about because Baylor wasn't that good,
Speaker 2: and he's at Baylor. Jeremy Roach the Duke transfer, a
Speaker 2: guy who can go off and hit five threes in
Speaker 2: any game. Duke's playing really well right now. Cooper flag returned,
Speaker 2: So they're still deservingly gonna be favorites in that one.
Speaker 2: But I'm anxious to see what kind of line we
Speaker 2: get there other games that are currently ongoing, We've got
Speaker 2: a tie. How about Saint Mary's Baby? How about Saint
Speaker 2: Mary's Baby? So Saint Mary's is now tied at forty
Speaker 2: three apiece. They trailed by as much as twelve. In fact,
Speaker 2: I think you might have got down to fourteen, but
Speaker 2: it's it's tied at forty three. Was seven and a
Speaker 2: half left, and I'm taking at Saint Mary's. I need
Speaker 2: him to cover because that's what my my parlay is.
Speaker 2: I've got Carolina ole Miss. I took ole Miss money line.
Speaker 2: Ole Miss was one and a half point underdogs in
Speaker 2: this one, and they're up forty four to twenty six
Speaker 2: at half. Carolina, we know who they were. They just
Speaker 2: got hot and played a team that you know, probably
Speaker 2: didn't like San Diego State. I think got benefited out
Speaker 2: of getting in because in a weird way in the
Speaker 2: playing games, the Mountain West got the benefit of doubt
Speaker 2: over some other teams. Like there's like one of the
Speaker 2: UC teams, like California, something might have been Irvine. It
Speaker 2: was down to like those two teams as far as
Speaker 2: the play in, and I mean San Diego State won
Speaker 2: enough games to where they weren't gonna put in I mean,
Speaker 2: I guess they could have put in West Virginia, but anyway,
Speaker 2: San Diego State was not a I mean San Diego State.
Speaker 2: That game was really an outlier, it seems at this point.
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry, I'm getting distracted because Vandy's crumbling and
Speaker 2: I'm loving it. Grand Canyon is up twenty six to
Speaker 2: twelve against I'm sorry, Grand Canyon's trailing Maryland twenty six
Speaker 2: to twelve. So the three legs I have here, I
Speaker 2: need Saint Mary's to win by four and a half
Speaker 2: and they're now down forty five to forty three. I
Speaker 2: also need Maryland to win by about what they're winning
Speaker 2: by now, and then I mean Ole Miss looks like that. That's
Speaker 2: a one that seems safe at this point, but a
Speaker 2: lot of ball to be played. The next game is
Speaker 2: going to up at six point fifty. That's Norfolk State
Speaker 2: versus Florida versus Florida, and then obviously Kentucky at seven
Speaker 2: to ten taking on Troy, and then New Mexico Marquette.
Speaker 2: You got any thoughts on New Mexico Marquette's that's early
Speaker 2: one of the like intriguing match I mean I say early,
Speaker 2: it's later, but like that's a game that I haven't
Speaker 2: really had on my radar. Yeah, but it should be great,
Speaker 2: and I think you can go either way as far
Speaker 2: as the spread. I mean, obviously Marquette is the deserving favorite,
Speaker 2: they have a better seed, but Richard in New Mexico
Speaker 2: have something that a lot of teams don't have to
Speaker 2: their advantage in a matchup like this. Richard's dad happens
Speaker 2: to be maybe the best coach of all time who's
Speaker 2: played the opponent that Richard's gonna play. He's played him
Speaker 2: three times. So like, Richard has some expertise here, not
Speaker 2: only because his dad's great, but his dad has played
Speaker 2: Marquette and beat him three times.
Speaker 3: Sure that's got to help.
Speaker 2: I mean, what's the line here? I'm looking here, Let's
Speaker 2: see what I got Marquette is four and a half
Speaker 2: point favorites. I think that's the perfect line. Makes me
Speaker 2: not want to touch it, but I probably will, you know,
Speaker 2: I cannot.
Speaker 3: I mean, don't fool yourself now.
Speaker 2: I mean, how many games do you feel like in
Speaker 2: the last few days you're like, yeah, that's a no play,
Speaker 2: But you know what, college basketball is gonna be over soon.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna play at least I'm gonna play my first
Speaker 4: parlay last yesterday. Did not want to play Louisville at all,
Speaker 4: but I still included a total And.
Speaker 2: There's something about that action. Baby, It just it's like
Speaker 2: a hit of something. It is, man, it's well amazing.
Speaker 4: We talked about liking New Mexico earlier on the season,
Speaker 4: and one of the things that you said is just like,
Speaker 4: obviously I wasn't too informed on the Big East, or
Speaker 4: just like not watching as much, but seeing how Creighton
Speaker 4: just absolutely dominated Louisville and seeing obviously how good Saint
Speaker 4: John's is. I don't know, I feel like a lot
Speaker 4: of people faded Marquette in this matchup too, but New
Speaker 4: Mexico not a lot of people watching them too, unless
Speaker 4: you're staying up till like eleven o'clock ten eleven o'clock game.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about the Mountain West. The only sign
Speaker 2: of the Mountain West is not a fraud is that
Speaker 2: Colorado State beat Memphis. But really, like that shouldn't be
Speaker 2: a humongous surprise because Memphis, I mean, they probably shouldn't
Speaker 2: have been a five seed. They have quad three losses
Speaker 2: and they won the American you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: So like that's not a huge upset to me. I think, honestly,
Speaker 2: we've had two five twelves, right, we had yesterday McNeice
Speaker 2: and Clemson, and then obviously Colorado State over over over Memphis.
Speaker 2: I just don't think those are that I mean. And
Speaker 2: it's weird because I do feel like any coverage I
Speaker 2: heard about the upset specials because the five and twelve
Speaker 2: is the most common upset that's happened when it comes
Speaker 2: to seeds, and really, I mean, it's also not surprising
Speaker 2: that it's that common because it's you know, it's the
Speaker 2: real big upsets are viewed from twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen,
Speaker 2: and sixteen seeds. The one that happened the most between
Speaker 2: those by matchup is obviously five to twelve, right, that's
Speaker 2: the most that's the closest of the two opponents the
Speaker 2: rest of the way in that in that in that tier.
Speaker 2: But also it's just happened a lot more than you
Speaker 2: would you would typically expect. But I don't, you know,
Speaker 2: I think I didn't Colorado State to me, I didn't.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I wasn't impressive with him enough to trust him.
Speaker 2: But clearly I was wrong. I was I was wrong
Speaker 2: in a major way. All Right, what I want to do,
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. When we come back on the
Speaker 2: other side, a couple of things. Let's talk about Louis's
Speaker 2: roster for next year as far as what could potentially
Speaker 2: be in play, and also the expansion of the tournament
Speaker 2: is certainly gonna happen at some point, and I just
Speaker 2: you know, I'm gonna watch it. I'm gonna love it regardless.
Speaker 2: But college basketball is unique to where again, it doesn't
Speaker 2: reach a ton of people comparatively speaking, when you look
Speaker 2: at you know, the NFL, college football, NBA even at times,
Speaker 2: but the tournament is a monster. No matter if you
Speaker 2: follow college hoops year round or not, you love the tournament.
Speaker 2: I just think you need to worry about Yeah, you
Speaker 2: may put bigger. You know, you think, more games, more viewership.
Speaker 2: If a bracket is it ninety six teams like they're talking,
Speaker 2: I think that makes it. I mean, I think there's
Speaker 2: a chance that the people who just love it because
Speaker 2: of the bracket component, it may get too big to
Speaker 2: where they're like, yeah, I don't you know, I'm good.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You know, these are way too many teams for me
Speaker 2: to even like think about. All right, quick break, keep
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Speaker 2: All right, So, as far as guys we know that
Speaker 2: are coming in next year to play for Pat Kelcey,
Speaker 2: we know about MIKEL. Brown Junior, a five star freshman,
Speaker 2: and we also know about Sonny Freu, Big Sonny, who
Speaker 2: of course is a big man from is it is it?
Speaker 3: Germany?
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe I'm wrong either way, he's he was not
Speaker 2: a non name at all. Louisville lands him and then
Speaker 2: he gets evaluated and he's now a top twenty five
Speaker 2: overall player in the twenty twenty five class. So a
Speaker 2: couple of really good freshmen Nata Mint still out there
Speaker 2: Obviously he'd be a huge addition as a freshman, And
Speaker 2: it sounds as if Louisville is in good shape and
Speaker 2: at that point you would have three top twenty five
Speaker 2: freshman So if you're gonna go after freshman, obviously you'd
Speaker 2: be you'd be doing you'd be bringing in guys that
Speaker 2: everybody else wanted, So we know that. And then it's
Speaker 2: as far as guys that are just expected to be
Speaker 2: back because of you know, I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 2: can you really just say that you expect anybody to, like,
Speaker 2: I'm fine with still operating under the impression that anybody
Speaker 2: who's on the roster, who's you know, not going to
Speaker 2: the NBA, that's not a senior, you just assume they're
Speaker 2: back until they say that they're not. But I also,
Speaker 2: I mean, are we aren't we on the same page
Speaker 2: that anybody even at any point is really not a
Speaker 2: big surprise.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean we have to be. Yeah, it's hard
Speaker 3: to plan for. Yeah, can to continue as the years
Speaker 3: go by.
Speaker 2: So look look at it this way. I mean, right now,
Speaker 2: you've got these are guys who I think most would
Speaker 2: just expect to be back. We're talking about Javon Adley,
Speaker 2: Corin Johnson, Cason Pryor. Actually I would say nice little
Speaker 2: yawn as i'm as, I'm as I'm rolling along here
Speaker 2: makes it really makes me sound good of the audiences,
Speaker 2: I'm putting you to sleep.
Speaker 3: No, that's me you good, I'm straight. Yeah. The two
Speaker 3: copies that had coffees that I had earlier not work.
Speaker 2: You got enough coffee right here, baby, It's all you need.
Speaker 3: Right. That's a triple shot.
Speaker 2: So here, here's a look as far as like who
Speaker 2: people just assume and I assume as well, will be
Speaker 2: will be here next year. James Scott, can I Rus,
Speaker 2: Ali Khalifa, Kobe Rodgers, and then we know mckel brown
Speaker 2: and Sonny Threw. And then the question marks are nata
Speaker 2: meant if he commits, and then I mean, I guess
Speaker 2: in a way, James Scott and Canna Russ could easily
Speaker 2: just decide they want to go elsewhere, and anybody could
Speaker 2: be honest with you. But Javon Hadley has an extra
Speaker 2: year because of the Juco situation, where if you played
Speaker 2: in Juco and any of the if your eligibility is
Speaker 2: exhausting this year, in one of those years that is
Speaker 2: used against you to count towards your eligibility exhausting. If
Speaker 2: one of those years is JUCO, you get next year.
Speaker 2: So that's Javon casein same thing, Cason also is going
Speaker 2: to get a medical red shirt, so I believe Cason
Speaker 2: prior could actually get two years of college basketball. He
Speaker 2: wants Koran Johnson, He's just simply going to be a
Speaker 2: I think Koran would be a red shirt junior because
Speaker 2: he only played in two games, So he's somebody that
Speaker 2: is going to be korin. Johnson played at Washington for
Speaker 2: two years. He would have been a junior this year
Speaker 2: at Louisville, but he only played in two games, so
Speaker 2: he's going to get the medical too. So technically, you know,
Speaker 2: Koran could have two more years left starting next year.
Speaker 2: So again I don't have any reason to just assume
Speaker 2: they're gone. But let's start with with with Javon. I
Speaker 2: don't know what nil situation Javon had. Clearly it was
Speaker 2: a factor to get him here, one of the factors
Speaker 2: other than you know, opportunity, and you know not to
Speaker 2: say that money is the only thing that matters, but
Speaker 2: we all know it does matter, especially with guys that
Speaker 2: are grinding out their last couple of years trying to
Speaker 2: build up as much money as they can and you know,
Speaker 2: do the best for themselves once they start their life
Speaker 2: away from college basketball. So Javon, I think this year
Speaker 2: showed that he's worthy of more than probably what he
Speaker 2: was already making. You know, let's say his deal was
Speaker 2: entry level. I think Javon Hadley absolutely proved that he's
Speaker 2: a good enough player that that you you know, dare
Speaker 2: I say, should like expect him to get some to
Speaker 2: he he would be inclined to expect some level of
Speaker 2: a bump in anil and he may come back because
Speaker 2: you know, why not. But he also could hit the
Speaker 2: portal and evaluate his options and decide to go elsewhere.
Speaker 2: So there's so many components. Like Javon's decision could also
Speaker 2: be based off of who you bringing in, right, Like
Speaker 2: if you're gonna go out there and get a native mint,
Speaker 2: I should know this, But I'm pretty sure he's kind
Speaker 2: of like a I mean he's a I think he's
Speaker 2: kind of I mean, he's six eleven, but he's he's
Speaker 2: a four six' nine actions what they listen, him and
Speaker 2: so he's a four, man just Like. Javon so like
Speaker 2: if you Get nata. Mint Javon hadley may think to himself, Like,
Speaker 2: OKAY i, mean, yeah this is like great, player but,
Speaker 2: like clearly he's the prized, possession he's the number one
Speaker 2: power forward in the. Class him starting over me seems.
Speaker 2: LIKELY i may look to, Leave like these are things
Speaker 2: that you AND i know some people are, thinking why
Speaker 2: would we start an eighteen year old our twenty four
Speaker 2: year Old Jevon. Hadley i'm not saying you, would but,
Speaker 2: one there's a lot to. It there's also a lot
Speaker 2: we don't, know, Right, LIKE i wouldn't be shocked if
Speaker 2: some of these freshmen come in with an expectation of
Speaker 2: minutes in, roll because, again they can go wherever they.
Speaker 4: Want so do you not think That hadley can maybe
Speaker 4: fit somewhere in as like a small forward or is
Speaker 4: His oh.
Speaker 2: No he can Should, absolutely he absolutely. Can javon can
Speaker 2: absolutely be a UH i mean he could Play he
Speaker 2: could play three and four for, sure and he may
Speaker 2: actually be more of a natural. Three he had to
Speaker 2: play the four Because cason got, hurt, Right so you
Speaker 2: know that's something to keep in. Mind but, again it
Speaker 2: just comes down to players having all the, power and
Speaker 2: it's not powers not even the right word to. USE
Speaker 2: i feel like that's unfair to. Say it's not like
Speaker 2: they're they're you, know they're they're. Leveraging they just have,
Speaker 2: options and it makes total sense for these guys to
Speaker 2: consider their, options especially the older players who everyone knows
Speaker 2: IS i, mean who everybody knows, like they're not going
Speaker 2: to be a right like they're like, This they're they're
Speaker 2: gonna choose what makes the most sense for them as
Speaker 2: far as their future because after, this like the most
Speaker 2: Money Javon hadley is going to make in college or
Speaker 2: as a basketball player was this year and next year
Speaker 2: he'll play.
Speaker 3: Pro he's not going TO.
Speaker 2: NBA i mean he and, look he may play in
Speaker 2: a decent league. Abroad he'll probably make more money playing
Speaker 2: At louisville or wherever he if he decides to go.
Speaker 2: Elsewhere so it's just that it's so. Much it's such
Speaker 2: a different. World and here's what's wild THAT i hadn't
Speaker 2: really thought. About it's a different. World and this is
Speaker 2: the first time we've ever been in this, position coming
Speaker 2: off a good season to where we like now expect
Speaker 2: to be a good. Program right like in the early
Speaker 2: stages OF, nil the, portal we were, awful you know
Speaker 2: WHAT i, Mean so guys who are successful here that,
Speaker 2: like If cason decides to, leave could be the same.
Speaker 2: Thing he just, Realizes, okay there's gonna be a new
Speaker 2: flavor of the year with these. FRESHMEN i like LOUIS
Speaker 2: i can play, here but you, KNOW i could probably
Speaker 2: get the same money elsewhere Because, casey to be, HONEST
Speaker 2: i think what he did in his brief amount of
Speaker 2: time he spent on the, FLOOR i think he kind
Speaker 2: of proved that he was he was a really nice, piece,
Speaker 2: Right like he shot the ball terribly from, Three but
Speaker 2: other than, that he looked like a guy that was
Speaker 2: that was worthy of going after and. Prioritizing AND i
Speaker 2: don't think anything this year At louisville would make other
Speaker 2: schools feel like we shouldn't take the same we shouldn't
Speaker 2: make the same Decision louisville did and go after this.
Speaker 2: Guy so it's really just gonna come down to. Money
Speaker 2: BUT i think where it starts is figuring out what
Speaker 2: you're gonna do for the returning, players because you, know
Speaker 2: those guys have. OPTIONS i, mean CAN i RUSE i
Speaker 2: have no reason to think he won't come. BACK i
Speaker 2: think he loves playing for this, STAFF i really. DO
Speaker 2: i think he's a, really really good young. Guy is
Speaker 2: that embraces the you, know being coached, hard that kind of.
Speaker 2: Stuff so you, know you, KNOW i don't expect him to.
Speaker 2: Go but, Again i'm just GONNA i don't want. To
Speaker 2: it sounds Like i'm telling people to prepare for the,
Speaker 2: worst AND i. Don't Really that's not What i'm, doing
Speaker 2: AND i don't even want it to sound that. Way
Speaker 2: BUT i JUST i think as hard as it is
Speaker 2: for people to expect or to you, know just, understand
Speaker 2: anybody transferring should not be considered a real big surprise,
Speaker 2: anymore regardless of the situation and What i'm saying, now
Speaker 2: when it comes TO litis, basketball we're going to experience
Speaker 2: that three, years four years later than a lot of
Speaker 2: other good. Programs because anybody Leaving louisville at the end
Speaker 2: of the mac, era and at any point during The
Speaker 2: Kenny payne era made total. Sense you'd question the sanity
Speaker 2: of guys that wanted to stay and play For Kenny. Payne,
Speaker 2: well now you're, thinking who the hell you should be
Speaker 2: paying to play For Pat, kelsey because look at this.
Speaker 2: Guy he's. Phenomenal so you, know it's just it's just.
Speaker 2: Different it's just. Different So i'm worried about. This Saint
Speaker 2: mary's bandy, Ga.
Speaker 3: No it's you just hit these wild.
Speaker 2: Shots you're good, though because you got money, line, Right,
Speaker 2: YEAH i just took the money.
Speaker 3: Line, YEAH i uh but you never.
Speaker 2: Know, yeah we'll. SEE i, Mean vandy's down three with
Speaker 2: the ball under twenty seconds, left we'll see if they.
Speaker 2: Can they got to step back three missed, it missed
Speaker 2: it out of. Bounds they're going to go to the.
Speaker 2: Mall oh what have we got to jump?
Speaker 1: Ball?
Speaker 2: Here what the heck? HAPPENED i GUESS i guess he
Speaker 2: has the? Ball uh, oh three? Ball here we Go vandy?
Speaker 3: Miss is?
Speaker 2: It? St mary's? Rebound they didn't call? FOUL i? Lost oh?
Speaker 3: Wow you?
Speaker 2: ONE i? Lost?
Speaker 3: Wow you're you're like two seconds aad of?
Speaker 2: Me that.
Speaker 3: Hurts yat's. Brutal, yeah it's a.
Speaker 2: Brutal that last possession where they, well they should have
Speaker 2: been an intentional foul On. VANDY i don't know why
Speaker 2: they didn't call. That but another one goes down from THE.
Speaker 2: Sec now, again this was a seven to, ten so
Speaker 2: technically seed line it was.
Speaker 4: But you mean the ALMIGHTY. Sec the ALMIGHTY. Sec but
Speaker 4: they got the most teams ever in the.
Speaker 2: Tournament and you know what's wild about Like Saint mary's
Speaker 2: is a team that like not a lot of people
Speaker 2: are fighting for who should be a. Seven BUT i
Speaker 2: will say this when it comes to, Sorry i'm trying
Speaker 2: to keep THE tv from going. Off it's doing that.
Speaker 2: Thing are you still? Watching, Yes i'm still. Watching But
Speaker 2: Saint mary's really had no business getting a. Seven all
Speaker 2: they did was benefit from Beating gonzaga in leaked play,
Speaker 2: twice And gonzaga got the. Eight but Like gonzaga also
Speaker 2: went out and played a loaded, Schedule Saint mary's. Didn't
Speaker 2: SO i actually think in a weird, way that's a
Speaker 2: bigger AND i, mean, again seven to, ten the seven
Speaker 2: is expected to, win and that's what. Happened BUT i,
Speaker 2: think again WHAT i said, earlier the SEC's performance up
Speaker 2: to this point it if it's gonna impact your your
Speaker 2: feel as A kentucky, fan and it may not impact
Speaker 2: your feeling about. Anything, right you may just, say you,
Speaker 2: KNOW i don't care about the rest of the. LEAGUE
Speaker 2: i Trust Mark, pope, whatever YadA, YadA you, know do
Speaker 2: what you do what you. Do but if there is
Speaker 2: gonna be anything that you choose to take from so
Speaker 2: far what we have as far as results in this,
Speaker 2: TOURNAMENT i, mean it has to be that THE. Sec you,
Speaker 2: know going ten and eight in getting a three may
Speaker 2: not mean that you're really one of the top twelve
Speaker 2: teams in the, country you know WHAT i. Mean it
Speaker 2: just may be the fact that your resume was you,
Speaker 2: know he warranted that because of how good your league.
Speaker 2: Was but there were always big GAPS i feel like
Speaker 2: in the top of THE sec and the middle of
Speaker 2: THE sec and even the bottom that got in and
Speaker 2: the bottom that got in so far, yikes the MID
Speaker 2: i Mean missouri was WAS i Mean missouri finished at At.
Speaker 2: Kentucky they lost To. Drake arkansas winning is a different
Speaker 2: IS i guess an added, Bonus BUT i Think arkansas
Speaker 2: is also you have to look at them a little differently,
Speaker 2: too just because of you, Know Arkansas's Cali. Perry the
Speaker 2: way his teams are now. Built they're gonna be a
Speaker 2: real you, know oddity in college basketball because he's still
Speaker 2: going to prioritize using all the money he gets on top.
Speaker 2: Freshmen so and, AGAIN i Think kentucky was in the
Speaker 2: top tier of their league With, Tennessee auburn And florida In,
Speaker 2: alabama but they don't Have Jackson robinson. Anymore they got
Speaker 2: a one Armed Lamont, butler and they were never winning
Speaker 2: those games based off of just like pure. TALENT i
Speaker 2: think that's WHY i actually Think Mark pope's first season
Speaker 2: is actually more impressive than a lot of others would
Speaker 2: would view, it BECAUSE i don't Think kentucky is built
Speaker 2: with dudes that are just, like what are you gonna?
Speaker 2: Do you gotta play this? Guy? Now do you have
Speaker 2: a matchup problem with The Mary Williams AND i think
Speaker 2: that could be like if they make a, run like
Speaker 2: if they're in the sweet, sixteen maybe the elite eate's
Speaker 2: a better way to put, It BUT i don't. Know
Speaker 2: even in the sweet, SIXTEEN i think you could say
Speaker 2: that if they're, THERE i would imagine it's A Mary
Speaker 2: williams that was a big factor Like. Illinois If kentucky
Speaker 2: And illinois based in the second round In kentucky gets past,
Speaker 2: THEM i guess there's a lot of scenarios that could.
Speaker 2: Play you never know what's gonna, happen BUT i have
Speaker 2: a feeling that it'll Because illinois just doesn't have somebody
Speaker 2: to Counter Amari, williams who is a tough guy to
Speaker 2: stop from scoring in the, post a great, passer and
Speaker 2: that can give a lot of teams. Problems in, FACT
Speaker 2: i think early on this Year kentucky didn't realize what
Speaker 2: they had In Amari williams when they had to lean
Speaker 2: on him more because of the. Injuries that's when you, Realize,
Speaker 2: okay this GUY'S i mean at a triple double an
Speaker 2: sec Play all, right final, Break i'm gonna cry or
Speaker 2: punch something Because Saint Mary's gails.
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Speaker 3: All, Right SO.
Speaker 2: I don't want, to you, know walk back a. Pick
Speaker 2: i've been confident in all. Week but the CLOSER i
Speaker 2: get to, it and the MORE i look at just
Speaker 2: body of work between these two, Teams arizona And, AKRON i,
Speaker 2: mean what are we thinking Because akron is fourteen and
Speaker 2: a half point. Dogs i've really Liked akron a. Year But,
Speaker 2: arizona it's hard for me to look at them and
Speaker 2: say they won't win this game by, fifteen, Right.
Speaker 4: That's What i'm thinking. Too they what up and down
Speaker 4: here that they've, Had, dude from from where they started
Speaker 4: to where they were at the middle of the season
Speaker 4: then to how they finished. Out it's two completely different.
Speaker 4: Teams but this is a very it's very experienced. TEAM
Speaker 4: i feel like it's also this is also one of
Speaker 4: those those hot picks For akron to. WIN i guess
Speaker 4: if something, happened this will be the First, cinderella, right.
Speaker 2: Like, yeah oh, Absolutely Like Caleb love played in a
Speaker 2: national championship, game, RIGHT i mean He's and even At
Speaker 2: arizona last year they made it to at least the second. Weekend,
Speaker 2: yeah they lost it to That clemson. Team so that
Speaker 2: KID kJ lewis where's he didn't commit?
Speaker 3: There he's not a? Freshman is? He who lewis For?
Speaker 2: Arizona? Yeah, uh let me, See i'm not familiar only,
Speaker 2: Guy because, Again arizona is one of those teams that
Speaker 2: is they're now in The big, twelve not the not
Speaker 2: The pac. Twelve but, LIKE i, DON'T i NEVER i,
Speaker 2: never never even watched. THEM i just know they have
Speaker 2: Caleble love And Tommy lloyd's their, coach and they early
Speaker 2: on this year were really underwhelming as far as just you,
Speaker 2: know their. Performances but then the, teams they're a team
Speaker 2: that early on they lost to teams that nobody knew
Speaker 2: was that. Good, like they lost To, wisconsin that's not
Speaker 2: a bad. Loss, now they lost To oklahoma When oklahoma
Speaker 2: was playing really. Well they lost To, duke who you,
Speaker 2: know we know is, great lost To West virginia in double,
Speaker 2: overtime that's not a bad, loss lost TO ucla by.
Speaker 2: Three but then once they got Into Big, twelve that's
Speaker 2: when they really kind of got it. Rolling so The
Speaker 2: arizona outside of conference, play there's really nothing that would
Speaker 2: tell you to be that impressed with, them, Right but
Speaker 2: once you got into conference, play they were a really
Speaker 2: Good big twelve. TEAM i mean they HAVE i don't,
Speaker 2: KNOW i just to, Me arizona is a Tough it
Speaker 2: all comes down to how you viewed The Big twelve,
Speaker 2: here because again in non conference their losses weren't too bad,
Speaker 2: teams but they didn't they also didn't.
Speaker 4: Win Carter bryant is WHO i was thinking of almost got. In, yeah,
Speaker 4: yeah that's. Right he's, yeah he's a, freshman, right the
Speaker 4: freshman that was looking at.
Speaker 2: Sharpshooter so you, know their wins In big twelve, play
Speaker 2: even the ones that were, good Like Iowa State Iowa
Speaker 2: state one today and they look good doing, it but
Speaker 2: they also finished the season, terribly so that win didn't
Speaker 2: have the same value at the, END i, mean rounding
Speaker 2: out their, year they Beat, Baylor, utah And Arizona, state
Speaker 2: and they lost To Kansas, State HOUSTON, Byu Iowa, state And.
Speaker 2: Kansas but in The Big twelve tournament they Beat kansas
Speaker 2: who's now been, eliminated and they Beat Texas. Tech that's
Speaker 2: a great win for, them and they Played houston, competitively
Speaker 2: which ALSO i think is A i Mean HOUSTON i
Speaker 2: think is loaded Like houston should. BE i, Mean houston's
Speaker 2: a one seed in the, tournament, right, yes, okay because
Speaker 2: there were two seed in The big twelve. Tournament Unless
Speaker 2: i'm Unless i'm looking at something. Incorrectly let me see,
Speaker 2: Here houston's a one, right AM i? Crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah It's Houston, auburn and then who would have been
Speaker 4: the one seed in The big?
Speaker 2: Twelve, oh it might have Been. Texas, no they're on
Speaker 2: The big. Twelve, no that was finishing. Up oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: yeah oh, YES i got. You SO i think in
Speaker 2: The big, TWELVE i guess it would have Been Texas,
Speaker 2: tech who had a great, year by the, way and
Speaker 2: they Beat Texas tech in the, tournament Meaning arizona did
Speaker 2: in The big twelve. Tournament SO i don't, Know i'm
Speaker 2: kind OF i really don't know what to do.
Speaker 3: Here and are you Going?
Speaker 4: Arizona, yes just BECAUSE i feel, LIKE i, Mean i've
Speaker 4: just heard a lot of the talk THAT i Think
Speaker 4: akron's not the sexy, pick but a lot of people, well.
Speaker 2: And akron also has won a lot of, games but
Speaker 2: they did not play great in the end of the.
Speaker 2: Year they needed an overtime winning their conference tournament to
Speaker 2: even get By so that that also kind of tells me,
Speaker 2: that you, know you may see them lose this game by,
Speaker 2: nineteen you know WHAT i, Mean that's What i'm.
Speaker 4: DOING i Think i'm gonna go with The. Cats cats
Speaker 4: are my, second the real Wild. Cats they're probably WHEN
Speaker 4: i Like louis Lude Olsen's. Wildcats baby, yeah they're Loude,
Speaker 4: Olsen Miles, Simon Mike, baby my, guy.
Speaker 2: Love Miles Simon, man what a. Team all, right we're
Speaker 2: out of tom have a good. Weekend everybody enjoyed the
Speaker 2: rest of the. Tournament first. Weekend we'll be back On
Speaker 2: monday and we'll have only sixteen teams left