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Speaker 5: On this episode, I'm talking to a former adult actress
Speaker 5: who is going into the acting and modeling world. She's
Speaker 5: actually been doing it for a few years now. She's
Speaker 5: starting Black Dynamite, and she's also starting in Catch twenty two,
Speaker 5: which is actually released this year. It's actually released a
Speaker 5: couple months ago. And we just had josh On on
Speaker 5: the last episode and he actually was the director of
Speaker 5: the project. Really quickly, I know, we briefly talk about
Speaker 5: the adult film world. Sorry, if I could actually talk,
Speaker 5: We do briefly talk about the adult film world from
Speaker 5: and honestly, it's probably one percent of this conversation. So
Speaker 5: if you're, you know, maybe tuning in to hear more
Speaker 5: about that, I'm sorry, we're not really going to talk
Speaker 5: too much. About that. Literally, it's like one percent and
Speaker 5: nineteen percent is about just the crazy world we call
Speaker 5: the indie filmmaking world. With guests Charmaine Starr, Hi Charmain,
Speaker 5: thanks all for coming on the show.
Speaker 4: Hi Dave, thank you for having me.
Speaker 5: Oh it's my pleasure to have you here. You know,
Speaker 5: I wanted to ask Charmain, you know, how you got
Speaker 5: started in the film industry. It's a question I ask
Speaker 5: everybody because nobody has the same exact story, and I
Speaker 5: just wanted to ask, you know, how did you find
Speaker 5: yourself in the film industry.
Speaker 4: How I found myself in the film industry. It wasn't
Speaker 4: It was not too long ago. I was in the
Speaker 4: I started in the adult industry for quite some time,
Speaker 4: about fifteen years. I you know. I did various films,
Speaker 4: adult films, magazines, I you know, so I built a
Speaker 4: name for myself. And I think it was around two
Speaker 4: thousand and six or seven. My agent had a booking
Speaker 4: for me. The director specifically wanted me in the movie.
Speaker 4: So I didn't have to cast for this role. And
Speaker 4: it was a very short role. It was for Black Dynamite,
Speaker 4: and I didn't think anything of it. I thought it
Speaker 4: was just you know, a usual mainstream because I've done
Speaker 4: a few mainstreams for you know, I've shot for HBO, Cinemax,
Speaker 4: some commercials, so I thought it was okay, you know,
Speaker 4: just a little mainstream role. And then when I you know,
Speaker 4: when I shot the film, everybody was really amazing, the
Speaker 4: cast and crew, director, you know, Michael Jai White, you know,
Speaker 4: everybody was really nice, and it was you know, it
Speaker 4: was only a few days that I shot the film.
Speaker 4: A year later, they gave me a call and they
Speaker 4: said that the film was going to be in Sundance
Speaker 4: Film Festival and that I was invited. So I thought
Speaker 4: that I was surprised that this film, you know, was
Speaker 4: went so big. And when I went to the film
Speaker 4: Film Festival, Sentence Film Festival, I got picked up right
Speaker 4: away by Sony Pictures, and you know, I I went
Speaker 4: into this new world of the mainstream world of film
Speaker 4: and I fell in love. I loved it. That's how
Speaker 4: I started in the film, the you know, mainstream film industry.
Speaker 5: So just to go back to when they first approached
Speaker 5: you about being in Black Dynamite, So what were your
Speaker 5: first impressions of actual of actually the film industry, of
Speaker 5: you know, having to sort of you know, there's a
Speaker 5: lot of waiting around. As they say, there's a lot
Speaker 5: of downtime, So you know, did you find it a
Speaker 5: lot more sort of hectic, slower faster? You know, what
Speaker 5: were your first impressions of it?
Speaker 4: Well, my first impressions were it was just it's just
Speaker 4: like the same set that I you know, in the
Speaker 4: adult industry. It was I mean, it's a big production.
Speaker 4: I wasn't really nervous because it was just a set,
Speaker 4: but I was kind of nervous because there was just
Speaker 4: a little bit more people. There's just a lot more
Speaker 4: people involved, and it was it wasn't you know, the
Speaker 4: cast and crew and director I wasn't familiar with. So
Speaker 4: you know, there was some downtime. But you know, that's
Speaker 4: just how it is. You know, even in the adult industry,
Speaker 4: there's always a lot of downtime. You got to wait
Speaker 4: for your scene. So I'm used to that, so you know,
Speaker 4: there wasn't anything new. Uh. The only thing was just
Speaker 4: getting used to different people around me, you know, the
Speaker 4: director and and the cast, because you know, I come
Speaker 4: from a different world of film, so just meeting regular
Speaker 4: actors and and you know, from that side of the world.
Speaker 4: It's It's very interesting because they were surprised about me
Speaker 4: because I was, you know, a little bit more confident
Speaker 4: in you know, the scene because in the scene I was,
Speaker 4: you know, I just be naked. But you know why
Speaker 4: when I started this, you know this they shot the scene,
Speaker 4: I had a robe on. So when the director said,
Speaker 4: you know, he was ready, I you know, I was confident.
Speaker 4: I didn't feel kind of insecure a while not showing
Speaker 4: my body. But it's funny because the crew around me
Speaker 4: were actually more shy, you know, they were like kind
Speaker 4: of looking away and making me feel comfortable, like are
Speaker 4: you okay? Here? Do you here's a towel. I'm like, no, no, no,
Speaker 4: it's okay. I'm you know, I'm fine. So it was
Speaker 4: it was very it was nice, it was sweet. You know,
Speaker 4: they were you know, that's the only thing that was different.
Speaker 5: You know, I would call Offfman from Troma Entertainment. I
Speaker 5: don't know if you know who Lloyd is.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 5: I taught so he's he's been producing movies for like
Speaker 5: thirty years. And one of the things that he found
Speaker 5: was that you know, certain like actresses, whenever they have
Speaker 5: to do like a nude scene like that, or maybe
Speaker 5: you know, be in front of the camera like that.
Speaker 5: They all they just the day of the shoot, they
Speaker 5: get very tense, they start having you know, they start
Speaker 5: you know saying, oh, I don't know if I want
Speaker 5: to do this. And that's when he basically he approached
Speaker 5: like Jenna Jamison at the time and said, you know,
Speaker 5: would you want to do a scene where we can
Speaker 5: just have you in in front of the camera And
Speaker 5: she said, you know, I'm so used to it. It's
Speaker 5: you know, it's like another day at the office, so
Speaker 5: to speak. That's when he started getting like, you know,
Speaker 5: more adult performers than some of his movies to do
Speaker 5: scenes like that because they are so comfortable with it.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, I totally agree with that. Yeah. I think
Speaker 4: it's because of that, you know, being comfortable in front
Speaker 4: of the camera, being professional, knowing the lighting, knowing your surroundings.
Speaker 4: You know, it's much easier to work with somebody, you know,
Speaker 4: in that if if there's a particular scene that has
Speaker 4: that someone has to be naked or you know, uh,
Speaker 4: it's it's not as it's not as hard to deal with.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So so when you finally saw a black dye
Speaker 5: my you know, you were you were showing a screening
Speaker 5: of it, did you ask what did you think of
Speaker 5: the movie? Initially, because I mean, it is a playoff
Speaker 5: like the Grindhouse seventies movies, and and you know, being
Speaker 5: a film nerd with no life, I really, you know,
Speaker 5: got the movie right off the bat. I thought it
Speaker 5: was hilarious. But I'm interested to know your thoughts. You know,
Speaker 5: what was your first impressions of the movie.
Speaker 4: Well, the first time I saw the film, I saw
Speaker 4: it at Sundance Film Festival. I never went to the screen.
Speaker 4: I mean it was it was the premiere there, and
Speaker 4: to see myself in the big screen, h was amazing.
Speaker 4: I was, I was, I don't know, I had a
Speaker 4: eerie feeling, it was. It was amazing. And when I
Speaker 4: saw the whole film, because I you know, I knew
Speaker 4: it was a Kung Fu seventies, you know, black exploitation film,
Speaker 4: I just, you know, I didn't see the whole film
Speaker 4: because I only had those two days or few days
Speaker 4: of shooting. And I absolutely loved it. I thought it
Speaker 4: was hilarious because I'm you know, I'm I'm from California.
Speaker 4: I grew up in the eighties nineties, so like the
Speaker 4: whole you know, the style and the attitude and the slang.
Speaker 4: I got it all. I understood it. I was laughing
Speaker 4: the whole time it was. It was amazing. And plus
Speaker 4: I love the whole Kung Fu thing too. It was amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought it was. It was great as well.
Speaker 5: Especially you know again, it was a throwback, this that
Speaker 5: seventies grindhouse feel to it. And I'm glad that it
Speaker 5: took a you know, a quote unquote risk with that movie,
Speaker 5: because you know, nowadays everything either has to be a
Speaker 5: reboot or it has to be an existing intellectual property.
Speaker 5: And it's it's you know, whenever you see a new,
Speaker 5: fresh movie like this come out.
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Speaker 5: It's too often that movies like this could just get
Speaker 5: buried because you know that, you know, things happened by
Speaker 5: by a panel and they go, oh, you know, black
Speaker 5: dynamite or whatever. No one's gonna want watch that. But
Speaker 5: I'm glad that it actually got the promotion that it
Speaker 5: deserved because it was a fantastic film.
Speaker 4: Oh yes, it was. You know, it's it's original. You know,
Speaker 4: it's not you know, there there was. There weren't anti
Speaker 4: parts where it was taken from another film or this
Speaker 4: and that. It was just it was it was a collaboration,
Speaker 4: but it was done very well. I mean it took
Speaker 4: you know, it just got all these little parts of
Speaker 4: history that that everybody, any American you know, like understands.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: Yeah. It was very interesting, you know, Like I saw
Speaker 4: the film a few times in America because there are
Speaker 4: there were a few festivals, and the premiere was at
Speaker 4: the Arc Light in Hollywood. I also attended the American
Speaker 4: Delville Festival in France, and when they played the film
Speaker 4: in front of the French people, uh, it was surprisingly
Speaker 4: not funny for them. You you can you can hear,
Speaker 4: like just so there were only two people laughing in
Speaker 4: the whole theater and it was just me and the director.
Speaker 4: It wasn't anyone else like it was. So it was
Speaker 4: weird because they didn't understand the you know, the the
Speaker 4: American you know humor per se, so you didn't hear.
Speaker 4: They were just kind of watching it like what is this?
Speaker 4: So it was weird, but it was it was very
Speaker 4: interesting to see, you know, that movie in a different
Speaker 4: country and their reaction. It was very it was funny.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and that that brings up a good point just
Speaker 5: about you know, the sort of cultural differences, you know,
Speaker 5: between American humor and maybe French humor. You know, I
Speaker 5: think it was I think it was John Carpenter who
Speaker 5: said that in France he's a horror filmmaker. In uh,
Speaker 5: in England he's a I'm sorry, and France he's an
Speaker 5: all tour. In England he's a horror filmmaker, and in
Speaker 5: America he's a bum. And basically what he meant by
Speaker 5: that was they all have different interpretations of everything, and uh,
Speaker 5: you know, John Carpenter's is a genius as well, and uh,
Speaker 5: but it's just but it's just always interesting to see
Speaker 5: those types of things. And as we speak about that, Charmaine,
Speaker 5: one of the things that I heard about was that
Speaker 5: movie studios now are thinking about releasing different cuts of
Speaker 5: the different of the film, so like you might see
Speaker 5: somewhere else, more often they than they already do. Basically
Speaker 5: that means so that way he'll play Kate maybe audiences
Speaker 5: in China, and it'll play Kate audiences in France and
Speaker 5: play Kate audiences in Germany. That way, instead of just
Speaker 5: trying to release the same thing. I mean, they already
Speaker 5: do that anyway, but now I'm saying like more and
Speaker 5: more so, and it's probably could have come to the
Speaker 5: indie level as well, because you know, just so again
Speaker 5: because now Netflix is everyone has Netflix nowadays, so so.
Speaker 5: But but to avoid something like that where there was
Speaker 5: almost like no laughter in the whole theater.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was funny. It was like they yeah,
Speaker 4: they had no clue what you know why it was funny.
Speaker 4: And you know, like the scene where you know, like
Speaker 4: they were at the restaurant and how they discovered chicken
Speaker 4: and waffles, you know, you know, I don't know if
Speaker 4: you remember that scene where when they said chicken and
Speaker 4: waffles and we know, chicken and waffles. You know, it's
Speaker 4: it's a very American, you know thing. And in France
Speaker 4: they were just like h okay, and they're just like,
Speaker 4: oh god. I had to like hide myself from laughing
Speaker 4: because I know the movie is funny, and the people
Speaker 4: around me were just like, what's so funny? So it
Speaker 4: was yeah, but it was interesting, It was it was fun.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm glad you had a good experience, you know,
Speaker 5: with it, because you know, sometimes you know, on first
Speaker 5: movie sets like that. So again, like I was saying
Speaker 5: about down times and things like that, some people can
Speaker 5: sort of come away and be like, yeah, I did
Speaker 5: that one to never again. And I'll give you an
Speaker 5: example of that. I was on a film set run time,
Speaker 5: and we had to be in a bar and this
Speaker 5: bar saying this is years ago when I uh, I
Speaker 5: was doing background work and I actually was in this
Speaker 5: bar in the middle of August and here in Philadelphia,
Speaker 5: and it was so hot and they had to turn
Speaker 5: off the air conditioner in the bar. When I walked out,
Speaker 5: I literally looked like I jumped at a pool. And
Speaker 5: I got back out, I was like, my shirt, it
Speaker 5: was a blue shirt I was wearing. You could like,
Speaker 5: it was just all this yeah, yeah, And a couple
Speaker 5: of people were like, hey, this is you know, our
Speaker 5: first thing, Like is this what this is like? Because
Speaker 5: we're never going to do it again, and I was like, no,
Speaker 5: this is just a bad situation.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: So as you sure, you know, as you completed Black Dynamite,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, what, did you want to go
Speaker 5: back into into into into the film world or maybe
Speaker 5: even TV. Did you you say to maybe your agent
Speaker 5: manager at the time if you had one, Hey, I
Speaker 5: want to get more parts like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I did after after I had that experience,
Speaker 4: you know, I I've kind of I think during that time,
Speaker 4: I think it was two thousand and eight nine, I
Speaker 4: was at the level of my adult career where I
Speaker 4: didn't have to shoot as much. You know, I've already
Speaker 4: built a name for myself. So I had different goals
Speaker 4: of you know, changing my career, you know, crossing over,
Speaker 4: you know, talking to my managers and agents and telling them, Okay,
Speaker 4: if there are any you know, mainstream you know television films,
Speaker 4: you know, bring them my way. I you know, I
Speaker 4: didn't want to do scenes anymore. They're you know, like
Speaker 4: boy girl scenes. But I was only particular to doing
Speaker 4: just girl girl scenes. So I slowly changed my career.
Speaker 4: And I also featured dance, so I you know, I
Speaker 4: traveled a lot, you know, once or twice a month
Speaker 4: feature dancing all over you know, all over the country.
Speaker 4: So that took up a lot of my time. That way,
Speaker 4: I didn't have to shoot adult film and I can
Speaker 4: focus on you know, crossing over. So I I did,
Speaker 4: you know, I I shot a lot of uh, you know,
Speaker 4: for Cinemax, you know, the the I was a series
Speaker 4: regular on you know on you know those sex what
Speaker 4: is it? I forgot those It's been a while here,
Speaker 4: you know, the the softcore you know, the Skin of
Speaker 4: Max stuff. So that even though it wasn't I mean,
Speaker 4: it was mainstream, but you know, I I I was,
Speaker 4: you know, I was interested in doing more of film.
Speaker 4: I liked the whole world of film, especially indie film.
Speaker 4: So I found another agent that was specializing in in
Speaker 4: just film and I did a lot of you know,
Speaker 4: I tried, I did casting. I cast it for some parts,
Speaker 4: but it never worked out. I don't know, I was
Speaker 4: never picked or anything. So the next film that I did,
Speaker 4: it was The Face of Evil and it was actually
Speaker 4: a friend of mine. He was you know, he was
Speaker 4: involved in in the mainstream industry, and he asked me
Speaker 4: if I was interested or just can you read for
Speaker 4: this film that I'm you know, my friend is doing
Speaker 4: he's directing. And I said, okay, I'll give it a try.
Speaker 4: And the director asked me, would you like there was
Speaker 4: two parts when it was the main role or this
Speaker 4: other role. And he told me that the other role
Speaker 4: fit me best because of my personality, because he says,
Speaker 4: I can bring it out more. So I just I
Speaker 4: also took that as an opportunity like it was. It
Speaker 4: was very I don't know, like the two films that
Speaker 4: I've done, they've came to me, which I'm grateful for.
Speaker 4: So I never really had the opportunity to really you know,
Speaker 4: like other actors, you know, where they have to cast
Speaker 4: and then they get picked, but you have to do
Speaker 4: more casting, you know how like they like a reoccur
Speaker 4: you know, they have to cast again or read again.
Speaker 4: I never had that opportunity.
Speaker 5: So when we talk about casting, Sherman, I wanted to
Speaker 5: actually ask did you ever found yourself maybe you know,
Speaker 5: type cast or maybe given similar roles and meaning like
Speaker 5: you know, I've had friends of mine who are from
Speaker 5: the Middle East, they're their Middle Eastern background, and they said, Dave,
Speaker 5: the only things that we ever get are two things.
Speaker 5: Number one is like an Indian shop clerk, or number
Speaker 5: two is playing like a suspicious terrorist type uh. And
Speaker 5: I and they they always they always talk to me
Speaker 5: about that, And I just wanted to ask, you know,
Speaker 5: do you ever find yourself typecast and in roles maybe
Speaker 5: at all? Or do you do you do you not
Speaker 5: experience that.
Speaker 4: I I think I've gotten typecast before a few times,
Speaker 4: you know, Asian girl either Asian or and and I'm
Speaker 4: you know, I'm comfortable doing nudity. I'm also and yeah,
Speaker 4: just a sex you know, like if I could, if
Speaker 4: I'm able to show my boobs or you know, be naked.
Speaker 4: H so, but not really well yeah that's it. And
Speaker 4: then like when you know, the new that other film
Speaker 4: Catch twenty two, it was an Asian girl, but you know,
Speaker 4: I was approached with that that character, so I never
Speaker 4: really had to I mean, I never had to cast
Speaker 4: for that either, which is hey, that was nice, you know,
Speaker 4: but yeah, I I never really experienced it, you know.
Speaker 5: So Okay, now, I mean I always just wanted to
Speaker 5: ask that because, you know, again because I was well,
Speaker 5: because the reason I brought that I was because I
Speaker 5: had a friend of mine who was bringing that up
Speaker 5: again about that whole thing about being being sort of typecasted,
Speaker 5: and I just saw I always you know, I always
Speaker 5: asked that to actors too, because sometimes even when a
Speaker 5: person plays a bad guy, you know, they never get
Speaker 5: out of playing a bad guy. There always a bad guy.
Speaker 4: Well yeah, you know, I mean right now, you know
Speaker 4: I I you know, I'm comfortable showing my body, you know,
Speaker 4: and I'm Asian. So that's pretty much my category. Right now.
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Speaker 4: And the two films that I know I'm you know,
Speaker 4: I've i've naked, and you know I'm Asian. But you know,
Speaker 4: it is what it is, you know, it's it's a
Speaker 4: part sometimes. I mean, you can't. I can't change into
Speaker 4: a Latina or a black girl also, you know what
Speaker 4: I mean.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Well, my my prediction is this, in the
Speaker 5: next I think five to actually probably serving that probably
Speaker 5: next three to five years, I think the the roles
Speaker 5: for Asians are going to skyrocket because they're the the
Speaker 5: market over there. Japan's always you know, Japan and Japan.
Speaker 5: But China they have the largest film industry in the world.
Speaker 5: Sorry they are really yeah they actually I'm sorry. Actually
Speaker 5: Bollywood is still number one, but but China's coming it
Speaker 5: was fast becoming number one. And then you have obviously
Speaker 5: Vietnam's on the rise. South Korea is is also uh
Speaker 5: they have a wonderful film market. Some of the best
Speaker 5: filmmakers the world actually come from South Korea, and I
Speaker 5: mean it's just been That's why I think you're going
Speaker 5: to start seeing. And then again I mentioned Bollywood, which
Speaker 5: is in India. I meant that I'm predicting there's going
Speaker 5: to be a lot more different types of roles also
Speaker 5: because if Hollywood wants to keep exporting movies to those
Speaker 5: big markets, they're going to have to appeal to those markets.
Speaker 5: So that's why I think those Asian Asian roles are
Speaker 5: just going to not be so stereotyped anymore and they're
Speaker 5: going to be more wide open.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm seeing that. I'm seeing, you know, because I
Speaker 4: mean the world is getting bigger, and you know, the
Speaker 4: attention is you know, there's a lot, there's a bigger
Speaker 4: it's a bigger world out there. Actually, there's a former
Speaker 4: adult film star. Her name is Sunny Leone. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: she's huge in Bollywood. She's an actress, she does the mainstream.
Speaker 4: She's there, she's like, she's so famous there and it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Surprisingly she came from the adult and they've accepted her,
Speaker 4: you know, and changed her career and now she's a
Speaker 4: big superstar there. It's amazing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Yeah, I mean, I'm sorry to me
Speaker 5: to cut you off.
Speaker 4: Oh no, no, go ahead.
Speaker 5: I was just I mean, as we talked about something Leonne,
Speaker 5: you know, she made the transition from you know, adult
Speaker 5: films to to mainstream. Uh you know Sasha great too,
Speaker 5: she yea as well. Yeah, yeah, and she's been in
Speaker 5: a in a ton of stuff. I was actually watching
Speaker 5: a horror movie and she just appeared. I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: there's Sasha. He was like, I didn't even know she
Speaker 5: was in this, but yeah, you know it's it's uh,
Speaker 5: I forget the girl's name. It'll come back to me
Speaker 5: as soon as we're off off this call, but off
Speaker 5: the podcast. But I remember, oh, Tracy Lawds.
Speaker 4: That's what I was thinking, Oh, yes, Tracy Laurids. She's yeah,
Speaker 4: she's one of the original Yeah, the original, yes, crossover, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Because I see her. You know, she's in a ton
Speaker 5: of movies now, she's in a lot of horror movies now.
Speaker 5: But but yeah, I mean, it's just you know, just
Speaker 5: I was just giving me examples again as we talked about,
Speaker 5: you know, sort of making that transition, and there's just
Speaker 5: popped in my head. But you know, just back to
Speaker 5: your career, Charmone, you mentioned Face of Evil. You know,
Speaker 5: how did you go about getting that role? Was did
Speaker 5: your did your manager sort of find you the audition
Speaker 5: and you went and you auditioned and got the part.
Speaker 4: No. Actually, a friend of mine, he's a publicist and
Speaker 4: he works in the mainstream industry, and he was reading
Speaker 4: for that, uh, that particular script and he asked me,
Speaker 4: his friend, that's the director is looking for, you know, uh,
Speaker 4: just a few people to read for, you know, these
Speaker 4: two roles. And he asked me if I was interested
Speaker 4: in reading for the roles. And I read two different
Speaker 4: characters and the director gave me one part, and uh,
Speaker 4: you know, I was honored. I was like, Okay, great,
Speaker 4: this is another film, another opportunity. And it was pretty big.
Speaker 4: I mean, there was a lot of characters I got
Speaker 4: to meet, uh because it was It's a good film.
Speaker 4: It's a very interesting film. I've never done a zombie film.
Speaker 4: I've never done like anything horror, horrific or anything. And
Speaker 4: especially with you know, makeup, you know, and just playing
Speaker 4: a role that I've never played before, like just ugly
Speaker 4: and zombie and making weird noises. I really had to
Speaker 4: do the whole of that and it was it was
Speaker 4: it was nice. It was very interesting. I was I'm
Speaker 4: glad to have that opportunity. A friend of mine, you know,
Speaker 4: gave me that opportunity. So it wasn't very hard. I
Speaker 4: was lucky to you know, get that part. Uh. And
Speaker 4: it was fun. It was a really really fun, interesting
Speaker 4: film to shoot. We shot in like a really broken
Speaker 4: down house. Every scene was a night scene, so we
Speaker 4: had to start at like, you know, in the evening
Speaker 4: till like six in the morning, and during that I
Speaker 4: think we shot it. I shot it for like a
Speaker 4: few three weeks or something, and one week I was
Speaker 4: in jury duty and it was the same week where
Speaker 4: I had to wear like zombie makeup. And it was
Speaker 4: so difficult because I told the director one night, I said,
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, I have to get off. I had to
Speaker 4: get off early because I have jury duty at like
Speaker 4: seven in the morning, and he, you know, and you
Speaker 4: know how directors are, they want you to stay until
Speaker 4: they finished something. So I ended up staying really late.
Speaker 4: And I mean I had to drive home in the
Speaker 4: sun with like zombie makeup, and I literally looked so
Speaker 4: scary driving home with a scary face. Oh my god,
Speaker 4: I look like I look like a crackhead. Like seriously
Speaker 4: driving home. You know, you know, zombie makeup. It's just
Speaker 4: like white face with like just oh my god, lot,
Speaker 4: you know, veins everywhere.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 4: It was crazy. And then I had to go to
Speaker 4: jury duty. It was amazing.
Speaker 5: So when you alluted in for jury duty, did they
Speaker 5: just say, oh, we're going to pasture?
Speaker 4: I mean no. And it's funny because once they said
Speaker 4: that and I thought, you you know, sometimes when you're
Speaker 4: in jury duty, you know, okay, you know there's like
Speaker 4: thirty people and you know they only have to pick
Speaker 4: like twelve, and hello, they picked me. They picked me.
Speaker 4: I was I got so lucky. I was one of
Speaker 4: the twelve people and I had to go back again.
Speaker 4: It was crazy. But once we got to court, they
Speaker 4: dismissed the case, so I got, you know, even more
Speaker 4: lucky to not go further. So you know that was
Speaker 4: that was good. Oh but yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 4: a very interesting maybe the I actually there were a
Speaker 4: few moments, you know, because I had to be in
Speaker 4: makeup and we had the makeup artists. He was Japanese
Speaker 4: and he specialized in you know those you know, the
Speaker 4: scary I don't know, those zombie scary makeup and at
Speaker 4: night it was just, you know, looking at myself in
Speaker 4: the mirror. I you know, I would scare myself, like
Speaker 4: like when I would walk into the restroom and had
Speaker 4: to peek and I would wash my hand. I look up,
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh my god, I can't look at my face.
Speaker 4: I can't look at myself. It's just so scary.
Speaker 5: It's funny because I actually was was a background in
Speaker 5: a horror movie once and I was like, I was
Speaker 5: a corpse in a pile of dead bodies, and I
Speaker 5: had like this fake blood all over me. So I
Speaker 5: got it, you know. So after the shoot was over,
Speaker 5: I thought I had you know, I took like this
Speaker 5: wet wipe type thing. I wipe my face, and I
Speaker 5: thought I got it all done. So on the as
Speaker 5: we're driving home, I asked my friend, I'm like, listen,
Speaker 5: let me let's stop at this little uh this little
Speaker 5: like thrift store, uh slash bodego, whatever you want to
Speaker 5: call it. And I was like, I want to grab
Speaker 5: a drink. And I walk in and the one guy
Speaker 5: behind the counter just like looks up and staring at me. Well,
Speaker 5: I was like what the hell. I was like, what
Speaker 5: do I got something on my face? Or something I had.
Speaker 5: I still had blood and stuff all in my hair.
Speaker 5: I looked like I was in probably a car accident,
Speaker 5: and just sort of walked in and it ate. Oh
Speaker 5: luckily though it's Philadelphia. I just kind of blended in eventually.
Speaker 4: But oh my goodness. Right, See, I was in LA
Speaker 4: and I was in a car and they're just like, okay,
Speaker 4: that's you know, and it's kind of acceptable. It's like, okay,
Speaker 4: this is an actor, you know, as an actress, you know,
Speaker 4: but yeah, it's isn't it funny you just you just
Speaker 4: forget that you look like that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, really it's it's it's sort of like at
Speaker 5: a sight out of mind.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a good film. It was really the characters,
Speaker 4: you know, the the other my fellow actors, they were
Speaker 4: all mainstream actors. Janie Bernadette, she's she was the lead role.
Speaker 4: She does she she does a lot of horror films.
Speaker 4: She she's from, you know, she comes from that side
Speaker 4: of the world of all horror films, and you know,
Speaker 4: she's used to it. So she kind of taught me
Speaker 4: a little bit because you know, being a zombie, playing
Speaker 4: a zombie character, you have to you know, for me,
Speaker 4: my experience is to look glamorous and smile and you know,
Speaker 4: like have seduction in my eyes and all this stuff.
Speaker 4: So I had to remove all of that and direct
Speaker 4: was like, I want you to sneer, and I'm like,
Speaker 4: what's sneer? He goes, just sneer. This is it's like
Speaker 4: a sound and you gotta go, you know, like just
Speaker 4: sneer like a zombie. And I'm like, how do you
Speaker 4: do that? So he's like, come on, you gotta be serious,
Speaker 4: and I'm like, oh my god, I have to. And
Speaker 4: I had to get into this weird zombie role, you know,
Speaker 4: I and I did. It was nice. It was very
Speaker 4: I'm glad that I can, you know, I'm able to change,
Speaker 4: you know, my this character or my you know, the
Speaker 4: side of me and go in a different direction. Yeah,
Speaker 4: it was. It was very nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's always fun when ever we were able to
Speaker 5: sort of step into a character and try out new things,
Speaker 5: you know, it's always it's always sort of great too.
Speaker 5: That's why as again we go back to sort of typecasting.
Speaker 5: That's why, you know, if you're always playing a bad guy,
Speaker 5: you sort of have to it's a little bit more
Speaker 5: difficult to try new things. Because again, you're always a
Speaker 5: bad guy.
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Speaker 5: But when you're able to sort of step into different characters,
Speaker 5: it's great to being able to try out this stuff,
Speaker 5: like you know, obviously being able to play a zombie
Speaker 5: and finding out, you know, almost beyond pantomiming, you have
Speaker 5: to sort of come up with all of this almost
Speaker 5: like a uh, you know, on the spot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and then I had to die, you know,
Speaker 4: even dying, you know, I have to do like the
Speaker 4: little shake and the eyes rolling back, and you know
Speaker 4: that was very interesting to do. Yeah, it was fun.
Speaker 4: And then blood coming out of my mouth, you know,
Speaker 4: like spitting it out, and you know, just it was
Speaker 4: very fun. I loved it. I loved I loved all
Speaker 4: that with you know, special effects, blood and contacts and
Speaker 4: you know, it was it was fun. I loved it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm glad you mentioned that too, because sometimes
Speaker 5: again you have to put fake blood in your mouth.
Speaker 5: And I remember I was on a set one up
Speaker 5: and somebody actually said, he goes, I can't take the
Speaker 5: fake blood, and then and everyone was like, trust this,
Speaker 5: We're you're only gonna have it in there for like
Speaker 5: five seconds. We're just gonna roll and shoot with it.
Speaker 5: And he goes, all right, fine, and he agreed to it,
Speaker 5: and that blood he had to do it so many
Speaker 5: times and it was like his teeth row a red
Speaker 5: by eye and then he was like, he goes, yeah,
Speaker 5: that was five seconds all right, but but he had
Speaker 5: a good laugh afterwards. But again, it's stuff like that,
Speaker 5: you know. That's why you know, I always ask about
Speaker 5: different film experiences because it's always it's always fun to
Speaker 5: hear stuff like that, you know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well you know sometimes they say, oh yeah, you know,
Speaker 4: just leave it in your mouth for a while and
Speaker 4: we're gonna do it, and you actually are just sitting
Speaker 4: there and you're just like you want to throw up,
Speaker 4: like it just tastes nasty, you know, and you're just like,
Speaker 4: oh yeah, but it's fun. After that, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 4: I loved it. I loved it so.
Speaker 5: So so Shure Mane. After you know, you finished Face
Speaker 5: of Evil, you know, you got to work on Catch
Speaker 5: twenty two, which is how we met through Josh. Josh, Yeah,
Speaker 5: and I wanted to ask, how did you go about
Speaker 5: getting this role? Did you sort of you know, have
Speaker 5: it again, have a connection through your network or is
Speaker 5: this something that you had to sort of audition for.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my my agent he he gave me a call
Speaker 4: and he said that there was a mainstream uh role
Speaker 4: for you that you need to read for. And I
Speaker 4: think I was traveling at the time, and I think
Speaker 4: I I think it was during the time that I
Speaker 4: was quitting the industry. I you know, I wanted to
Speaker 4: retire in the adult industry. But this is He's like,
Speaker 4: this is a mainstream film, you know, would you be interested?
Speaker 4: And I said, of course. Uh. So during that time
Speaker 4: I casted for the role. He you know, it was
Speaker 4: he he was in New York. So I had to
Speaker 4: read my part, uh and I had to you know,
Speaker 4: tape in on you know, video and send it to
Speaker 4: him to see if I, you know, fit the part.
Speaker 4: And I think I've read it a few times until
Speaker 4: Josh said, okay, you have the part for the role
Speaker 4: and I got the role. But during that time after that,
Speaker 4: after I got the role, I think it took a
Speaker 4: while for the film two or the production to start.
Speaker 4: It took I think a few years. We had to
Speaker 4: build the film, you know, like build some funding and
Speaker 4: you know, I helped also promote the film funding through
Speaker 4: my you know, my social media, and you know, I
Speaker 4: was dedicated to it. I said, anytime you guys are ready,
Speaker 4: I you know, I'll be there and ready. H He
Speaker 4: sent me the script and I read the whole script.
Speaker 4: It was very interesting, so I you know, I I
Speaker 4: wasn't really prepared until the product. Finally, the production was
Speaker 4: ready after I think it was after two years or something.
Speaker 4: And during I traveled quite some time during those two years,
Speaker 4: and I think the finally the year we shot the film,
Speaker 4: I was I was in between moving from a different country,
Speaker 4: and it was it was kind of bizarre because you know,
Speaker 4: I was going back to la and he said, the
Speaker 4: film is finally ready to shoot in May. And and
Speaker 4: this time I was, I fell in love. I had,
Speaker 4: you know, my fiance, and I, oh, he was my
Speaker 4: boyfriend at the time, and you know, we were I
Speaker 4: was in the verge of moving either, you know, from
Speaker 4: Los Angeles to France, and I was going back and forth,
Speaker 4: flying back and forth from the States to France. And
Speaker 4: and then in May, finally, you know, we were ready.
Speaker 4: But I wasn't ready because you know, this role, this character,
Speaker 4: she is a troubled girl. You know, you know, it
Speaker 4: had a lot of drugs involved and what else. Yeah,
Speaker 4: she's just like just torn up, I mean beat up.
Speaker 4: And also she dies, So you know, I thought it
Speaker 4: was going to be like, you know, a little quick
Speaker 4: little scene. But you know, they needed me for about
Speaker 4: I think like a week and a half. So every day,
Speaker 4: you know, like I kind of got nervous. I said, Okay,
Speaker 4: is there anything that you know, what do I need
Speaker 4: to do? How do I need to prepare? So Josh,
Speaker 4: you know, he asked, me, okay, do a little research.
Speaker 4: Watch some films you know about heroin and and drugs
Speaker 4: and you know, and and some you know, like just
Speaker 4: thriller movies. And then I started thinking, like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: this is going to be you know, I have to
Speaker 4: play a totally different character, like another like scary, weird,
Speaker 4: you know, thriller film, and I have to I don't know.
Speaker 4: I just didn't know what I was gonna get myself into.
Speaker 4: So I kind of got a little nervous. But but he,
Speaker 4: you know, he assured me that you know, it's okay,
Speaker 4: you know, don't worry, it's not really you know, it's
Speaker 4: not going to be too crazy. So when we shot
Speaker 4: the film in New York, I met the rest of
Speaker 4: the characters. Everybody was amazing, Josh, you know, everybody was.
Speaker 4: They made me feel comfortable because I it was you know,
Speaker 4: like you know, there are were some parts where I
Speaker 4: had to get beat up by all of them, like
Speaker 4: there was you know, because the movie there were just
Speaker 4: different parts of they didn't know how I died, so
Speaker 4: you know, there were different scenes of me having to
Speaker 4: be you know, brutally abused or killed, and so, you know,
Speaker 4: I it just didn't make me feel I'm a very
Speaker 4: positive person, so I just didn't want to I don't know,
Speaker 4: I've I wanted to feel a little comfortable with that.
Speaker 4: So I I, you know, I asked Josh, like or
Speaker 4: and the director, I mean, and the right Shannie. You know,
Speaker 4: is there something like you can you guys have like
Speaker 4: I don't know, donuts around because you know, like that
Speaker 4: makes me feel you know, it makes me feel like
Speaker 4: kind of happy and good. You know, is it possible
Speaker 4: you can have some donuts around because you know, like
Speaker 4: that feeling of just like this girl you know, I
Speaker 4: don't know, she just it just didn't it didn't make
Speaker 4: me feel happy. So they had donuts for me ready
Speaker 4: until you know, after I got beat up, I had like,
Speaker 4: you know, here's your donuts. So I had a nice
Speaker 4: donor and I was back to you know, being happy again.
Speaker 5: What kind of.
Speaker 4: Uh well there he had. They got me a dunkin
Speaker 4: Donuts so that I had like a variety of like
Speaker 4: glazed chocolate and sprinkles. So I had a variety like
Speaker 4: a what is it? What is it? The bear claw?
Speaker 4: I had all of that. It was really good. So, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was It was interesting. It was very interesting this role.
Speaker 4: Uh you know, like shooting a you know, I've never
Speaker 4: i mean having a ringe. I mean it was a
Speaker 4: fake syringe. But he's like, okay, you got to do
Speaker 4: it this way. This is you know, they have a
Speaker 4: they had like a little bag and you know it's
Speaker 4: like a it's a process, you know. And I had,
Speaker 4: you know, there was things that I had to do,
Speaker 4: you know, and I didn't know how to you know,
Speaker 4: it's crazy. I had to do all of these little
Speaker 4: things for you know, the scene. And I said, okay,
Speaker 4: you know you got to do this and you gotta
Speaker 4: do that. So it was very interesting to do. And
Speaker 4: then I had to die, you know, I I and
Speaker 4: I had to have makeup again, like like I was dead.
Speaker 4: I had to have bruises on my face. I was
Speaker 4: you know, they painted my face kind of white, you know,
Speaker 4: because I was I was pretty much dead in the tub.
Speaker 4: And it was funny because you know, there was there
Speaker 4: were there were a few instances where I had to,
Speaker 4: you know, use the restroom and I would scare myself again,
Speaker 4: Like I would go in the bathroom at night because
Speaker 4: you know, and then the bathroom was downstairs, and I
Speaker 4: would forget that I had makeup on my face, and
Speaker 4: I would just scare myself again, you know, looking in
Speaker 4: the mirror like, oh my god, I'm back at it again.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 5: Yeah, It's at least you didn't have to go outside
Speaker 5: there or go to Jewey duty for that one.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. I know. It is funny
Speaker 4: because I had to be in makeup like that all day,
Speaker 4: not only just evening, I mean even during the day.
Speaker 4: So like at lunch too, Like We'll all have lunch
Speaker 4: together and I have my robe on and I have
Speaker 4: my death makeup, and I'm just like, hey, guys, you know,
Speaker 4: outside and we would eat outside and just people walking
Speaker 4: around like looking at like, who's this girl? My god?
Speaker 5: But it was fun, just another day in New York City, right.
Speaker 4: Exactly right, But it was really much fun. I had
Speaker 4: a great time.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, this is how I was speaking to Josh,
Speaker 5: you know, about how this whole movie sort of came together.
Speaker 5: You know you mentioned that, you know about two years. Uh,
Speaker 5: you know, they they he was actually talking about that
Speaker 5: in his interview about how it came together, you know,
Speaker 5: finding the money, making sure the script is set, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, because that's that's always the big thing for
Speaker 5: for films, especially indie film, is finding that money to
Speaker 5: be able to make it, to to payper you know,
Speaker 5: not only to pay everyone you know about to pay
Speaker 5: your cast, but also pay your crew, locations, insurance and
Speaker 5: you And it's just sort of it can it can
Speaker 5: you know go on for that for you know a while,
Speaker 5: even years? Uh, because it's just that's one of the
Speaker 5: tricky things now about about it's always been about indie film,
Speaker 5: is is being able to find enough money to make
Speaker 5: it and you know, sort of without making any sort
Speaker 5: of artistic compromises.
Speaker 4: MM hmm.
Speaker 5: Yeah. So it's you know, I'm glad you're you're you know,
Speaker 5: you're able to to be and I'm glad that you
Speaker 5: were able to make it. And I wanted to ask you,
Speaker 5: have you seen a final cut of the film yet?
Speaker 4: Oh? Yes, yes, yes I have. We there there were
Speaker 4: there was a film festival in Miami last year. I
Speaker 4: attended that. It was our first film festival. H so,
Speaker 4: you know, I it was you know, I live here
Speaker 4: in France now, so it wasn't It wasn't a long flight.
Speaker 4: It was about a six hours, seven hour flight to Miami,
Speaker 4: so you know, I was able to attend, and it
Speaker 4: was it was not It was amazing to see it,
Speaker 4: you know on the screen. It was really cool. I
Speaker 4: loved it. It was they've done it. You know. He
Speaker 4: did a really great job on the edits and he
Speaker 4: also got a lot of amazing, you know, good parts,
Speaker 4: you know, like my good sides, you know, my back
Speaker 4: and my hair. Everything he did he did really good.
Speaker 4: So I'm very happy about that.
Speaker 5: And hopefully the audience responded to it, not like what
Speaker 5: they would have with in France with black Dynamite, So
Speaker 5: hopefully the audience that.
Speaker 4: I hope so yeah, yeah, I hope. So. I think
Speaker 4: a lot of people can probably relate to this film.
Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's it's a horror or it's
Speaker 4: a thriller film, you know, comedy, it's yeah, it's just
Speaker 4: particular because you know every country they have different humors,
Speaker 4: but this is a thriller, and I think a lot
Speaker 4: of uh, you know, everybody around the world can kind
Speaker 4: of relate to, you know, some parts of this film.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I as we can sort of talk about
Speaker 5: how everyone had Netflix and you know, any film, you know,
Speaker 5: there's universal themes are more important now than ever, and
Speaker 5: universal themes or you know, feelings of regret, revenge, all
Speaker 5: those things that that no matter where you come from,
Speaker 5: everybody can identify with in one way or another, or
Speaker 5: you know, whether they've happened to them or they know
Speaker 5: someone that this has happened to, you know, love, love, peace, war, revenge,
Speaker 5: all those all those sort of universal themes.
Speaker 4: Yes, yes, exactly.
Speaker 5: So you know, Charmaine, you know again, I was talking
Speaker 5: to Josh about just the release of this film. You know, what,
Speaker 5: do you have any sort of future projects that you're
Speaker 5: working on right now, anything, anything that maybe you're in
Speaker 5: pre production for uh, maybe anything that you're writing yourself.
Speaker 5: Just is there anything that you're working on.
Speaker 4: Well, right now, you know, I'm working on being you know,
Speaker 4: settling down here in France. My fiance and I are
Speaker 4: you know, planning to marry soon, so you know, like
Speaker 4: I have to do all the you know, all that
Speaker 4: stuff preparing for our family. But in the business side,
Speaker 4: you know, I'm not allowed to work here, so I'm
Speaker 4: only doing a lot of conventions in in the States.
Speaker 4: I have a convention that's coming up in June in Chicago,
Speaker 4: and there's another one in New Jersey, uh and later
Speaker 4: in November. But that's pretty much basically what my schedule
Speaker 4: is this year is just focusing on my marriage, you know,
Speaker 4: and settling down here in France. That's kind of my
Speaker 4: first priority because I yeah, it's it's you know, moving
Speaker 4: from a different country. It takes some time, you know,
Speaker 4: and you know, if if there is another festival, which
Speaker 4: actually there is I'm sorry for the Face of Evil,
Speaker 4: there's a I think it's the New York Film International
Speaker 4: Film Festival. It's in April, so the film will be
Speaker 4: premiering there in April. But I'm not going to be attending.
Speaker 5: Okay, and I'll make sure to link that in the
Speaker 5: show notes about that premiere though.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, yeah, it's in New York. But yeah, it's it.
Speaker 4: This is you know, this is a very critical time
Speaker 4: for me of just putting family first, you know, for
Speaker 4: the first time, because I've you know, all throughout my career,
Speaker 4: you know, it's always just been me, me, me, me,
Speaker 4: and you know, my career. And my fiance is very
Speaker 4: supportive any any festival or anything, you know, well, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm you know, he supports it, even any film. But
Speaker 4: I think for now, for this year, I think that's
Speaker 4: kind of what my priorities are, you know. So after
Speaker 4: I think settling down and getting you know, being married,
Speaker 4: I will fight, you know, like try to pursue my
Speaker 4: acting career maybe here in Europe and find an agency
Speaker 4: you know, in the in London area because they speak
Speaker 4: English and hopefully I can uh finally you know, be
Speaker 4: fluent in French where I can start working here in France.
Speaker 4: So I yeah, that's basically what my kind of goals
Speaker 4: are right now. Yeah.
Speaker 5: I was just gonna say, because you know, you know,
Speaker 5: you're in France and you know, the United Kingdom is
Speaker 5: isn't too far away. And uh, you know, obviously a
Speaker 5: lot of English uh, you know language films do come
Speaker 5: to New Europe Uh because usually Europeans. As I I've
Speaker 5: been to Europe several times that I've noticed they usually
Speaker 5: speak like their own language, you know, like Italian, but
Speaker 5: they also speak English or they speak French, they also
Speaker 5: speak English. Yes, you know, I know foreign language sort
Speaker 5: of starts there very early. So so and I've also
Speaker 5: have a ton of friends from Australia and New Zealand
Speaker 5: who are actually moving to Britain, who are in the
Speaker 5: film industry and they're in the like marketing promotion side,
Speaker 5: because it's just it's much bigger than in Britain than
Speaker 5: it is in Australia and New Zealand.
Speaker 4: You know, it's funny. I've noticed there's a lot of
Speaker 4: British actors that are moving into the Hollywood. I mean,
Speaker 4: I mean even on Netflix or even just film, a
Speaker 4: lot of actors like even you know, like Game of
Speaker 4: Thrones and Star Wars, they're all like British actors. It's crazy.
Speaker 4: So I know that there are some you know, even films.
Speaker 4: They shoot a lot of films in the London area.
Speaker 4: On the you know that side, so you know they're there,
Speaker 4: you know, there could be some opportunity for me there
Speaker 4: since it's much closer. So that's pretty you know, I'm
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm looking into that this side, you know,
Speaker 4: on this side of the the world.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's there are a lot of British actors now
Speaker 5: in Hollywood.
Speaker 4: Isn't it funny? Have you noticed, if you really think
Speaker 4: about it, they're all British. They just speak, they have
Speaker 4: just an English accent.
Speaker 5: Yeah. I think I think it just Alba really started
Speaker 5: all that because he was on the Wire. Uh, and
Speaker 5: now he's doing now he's he has the best of
Speaker 5: both worlds because now he's here and in and in England.
Speaker 4: I love. Yeah, he has a show on Netflix's Yes Luthor,
Speaker 4: I love I Love Luthor. He's so good in that show.
Speaker 4: It's really really, really good. Yeah. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 5: Yeah? Because the first time I ever saw him was
Speaker 5: in the Wire and he has that Baltimore accent. And
Speaker 5: then when I saw him, I forget what movie it
Speaker 5: was with that British accent. It might have been Rock
Speaker 5: and Roller, but he was he was I was like wow,
Speaker 5: I was like, he's you know, he's able to sort
Speaker 5: of do that, do both. And then then I was like, oh,
Speaker 5: so he goes you know, he's actually British, he's actually
Speaker 5: not American, Like, oh well, I didn't even know because
Speaker 5: that he had that Baltimore accent down absolutely phenomenal. I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean, I have no friends from Baltimore, and he
Speaker 5: sounded like he could fit right in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, isn't that interesting? Like it's crazy to hear a
Speaker 4: British person just completely change into an American accent or
Speaker 4: like even or Boston accent or you know, there's just
Speaker 4: different accents. It's so weird because for me, I don't
Speaker 4: know if I can do that, you know, because you know,
Speaker 4: if I speak a little French, you know, to my
Speaker 4: my my in laws, but I have an American accent,
Speaker 4: you know, when I say something in French, it's it's
Speaker 4: it's like you can tell I'm American, you know, but
Speaker 4: like other people, you know, like when they're fluent, you
Speaker 4: cannot tell, you know, but you can tell I'm American.
Speaker 5: Yeah, But Jarmaine, We've been talking for about I think
Speaker 5: thirty forty five minutes. I I've lost my time or
Speaker 5: it's not on the screen right now. But I wanted
Speaker 5: to ask, you know, is there anything maybe just in
Speaker 5: closing that you wanted to discuss or maybe any sort
Speaker 5: of final thoughts to put put a period at the
Speaker 5: end of this whole conversation.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I just want to say that, you know,
Speaker 4: I still want to pursue, you know, doing film and
Speaker 4: and you know, my career is still not over. You know,
Speaker 4: like this is just you know, my my personal life.
Speaker 4: It's like it's I'm grateful for everything, and I still
Speaker 4: want to pursue every you know, my my dreams as
Speaker 4: an actress. And you know, I'm I'm I've finally retired
Speaker 4: into in the adult industry.
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Speaker 4: You know, this year I was honored uh an induction
Speaker 4: of the Hall of Fame, which was you know, that's
Speaker 4: nice of them to do, you know, like, oh, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm in the Hall of Fame. So that was nice
Speaker 4: and yeah, and thank you, you know, thank you for
Speaker 4: you know this this nice interview. And I hope Catch
Speaker 4: twenty two can be successful and you know, you know,
Speaker 4: catch everybody's eye on this film. It's a really great film.
Speaker 4: Every all the guys in the film, they're really great actors.
Speaker 4: Even though I had a short film, it was just
Speaker 4: a great opportunity to just be in you know, that
Speaker 4: world of film.
Speaker 5: So oh yeah, it's been a pleasure haveing you here,
Speaker 5: and you know, and I'm definitely gonna you know, link
Speaker 5: to everything that we talked about in the show notes
Speaker 5: again for everyone listening. So Shermain, where can you find
Speaker 5: you out online?
Speaker 4: Well, you can find me on my social media. It's
Speaker 4: very easy. It's just at Charmine Star on my Twitter
Speaker 4: and my Instagram, and then I have a Facebook fan
Speaker 4: page Charmaine Star. And if you also want to read
Speaker 4: a lot of just hear say what says my blog
Speaker 4: Charmainstar dot com.
Speaker 5: And that's it, Charmain Star. I want to say thank
Speaker 5: you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 4: Thank you Dave for having me.
Speaker 2: I want to thank Dave so much for doing such
Speaker 2: a great job on this episode. If you want to
Speaker 2: get links to anything we spoke about in this episode,
Speaker 2: head over to the show notes at Bulletproof Screenwriting dot
Speaker 2: tv forward slash for fifty eight. Thank you so much
Speaker 2: for listening, guys.
Speaker 3: As always, keep on writing, no matter what I'll talk
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