WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:02.799 For thirty five years, Cindy Stumpo has been a female 2 00:00:02.839 --> 00:00:06.360 home builder with a passion for design, a mastery of detail, 3 00:00:06.400 --> 00:00:09.240 and a commitment to her crack. With daughter Samantha Stumpo 4 00:00:09.320 --> 00:00:10.160 by her side. 5 00:00:09.960 --> 00:00:11.560 I don't need my whole family on a date with me. 6 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:13.359 That's a good note. It's godyn weird. 7 00:00:13.439 --> 00:00:16.879 See. Stumpo Development is the only second generation female construction 8 00:00:17.000 --> 00:00:18.000 company in the country. 9 00:00:18.120 --> 00:00:22.440 You're crazy, You're a wacko, You're insanely I mean, it 10 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:23.519 just doesn't end together. 11 00:00:23.679 --> 00:00:27.239 Cindy and Samantha welcome guests to explore the world of construction, 12 00:00:27.519 --> 00:00:30.760 real estate, development, design and more. Unpredictable. 13 00:00:30.879 --> 00:00:32.399 Every time I think I know what you want, you 14 00:00:32.560 --> 00:00:34.600 switch it out. But that's what makes sure houses. 15 00:00:34.320 --> 00:00:37.039 All your deda discuss anything that happens between the roof 16 00:00:37.079 --> 00:00:39.119 and the foundation. Nothing is off limits. 17 00:00:39.320 --> 00:00:40.880 You truly do care about everybody. 18 00:00:40.920 --> 00:00:42.439 She can yell and she can scream, but when you 19 00:00:42.479 --> 00:00:44.920 get her alone, she's the best person on the planet. 20 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:54.119 Cindy Stumpo is tough as nails. 21 00:00:51.359 --> 00:00:54.640 And I'm Cindy Stumpo and Tanna's Nails on WBZ NewsRadio 22 00:00:55.039 --> 00:00:56.039 Chat thirty and I'm here with. 23 00:00:56.000 --> 00:00:58.960 Who Yanpa, you are who line today? 24 00:00:59.520 --> 00:01:02.119 You're packed to blonde. Yes, my daughter has been a 25 00:01:02.119 --> 00:01:04.760 blonde her whole life. She decides, like a year ago, 26 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:07.120 I'm going to be a brunette. I'm like, okay, yeah, 27 00:01:07.120 --> 00:01:10.879 all right, comes back. Everybody tells me how beautifulest color is. 28 00:01:10.920 --> 00:01:13.200 I go, they are lying. You are a blonde. You 29 00:01:13.239 --> 00:01:14.280 are made to be a blonde. 30 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:16.280 She stood up at my thirty seventh birthday party this 31 00:01:16.400 --> 00:01:18.280 year and was like, all you people that say you 32 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:19.519 like a brunette, you're. 33 00:01:19.400 --> 00:01:21.599 Full tell the truth. Okay. Friends don't tell you the 34 00:01:21.599 --> 00:01:25.120 truth unless they you're best friend, right, and then your 35 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.079 best friend will tell you the truth like you too. 36 00:01:27.200 --> 00:01:28.879 It's why I love you guys so much. I send 37 00:01:28.920 --> 00:01:30.040 my mom your videos. 38 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:32.040 Well, can we introduce them so people know who were 39 00:01:32.079 --> 00:01:33.200 talking to You didn't know we. 40 00:01:33.079 --> 00:01:34.760 Were allowed to talk or not. We were teating like 41 00:01:34.799 --> 00:01:36.079 can we talk? Can we not talk? Yes? 42 00:01:36.159 --> 00:01:38.280 So quietly good and we intro introduced them. 43 00:01:38.280 --> 00:01:40.840 Please you guys introduce yourself where I'm Cat. 44 00:01:40.920 --> 00:01:43.159 This is Nat and we have seven kids and I 45 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:47.200 mean you guys have a fairly epic bio of building 46 00:01:47.359 --> 00:01:51.719 and like insanity, we do not do that. We play 47 00:01:51.719 --> 00:01:54.760 on the Internet and in real life and have fun. 48 00:01:55.120 --> 00:01:57.239 Yeah, we have a podcast, and you know, we wrote 49 00:01:57.239 --> 00:01:58.799 a couple of books and we go on tour. But 50 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:03.079 that conversation about the Burnette, it's so relatable to us 51 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:07.439 because every time we change something, all the dms. 52 00:02:07.079 --> 00:02:09.400 Are like, oh my gosh, it's so amazing. I love it. 53 00:02:09.719 --> 00:02:10.879 I also went Burnette. 54 00:02:11.120 --> 00:02:15.240 And then deep down, we know people like to comment 55 00:02:15.280 --> 00:02:17.800 on change, but in reality, your best friends and by 56 00:02:17.800 --> 00:02:19.719 the way, your children will often. 57 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:20.479 Tell you the truth. 58 00:02:20.879 --> 00:02:23.159 And our kids still look back on when I went 59 00:02:23.280 --> 00:02:25.680 Burnett and go, oh, remember. 60 00:02:25.479 --> 00:02:28.199 When that looked like that, like it was the worst 61 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:28.719 thing ever. 62 00:02:29.919 --> 00:02:31.879 She didn't get it. I don't know. She had a 63 00:02:31.879 --> 00:02:34.879 pretty mirror at that moment. I'm like, okay, whatever, Okay, 64 00:02:34.960 --> 00:02:36.800 let's get back to you two, and we're off Samantha 65 00:02:36.800 --> 00:02:39.960 Stumpo and her Brunette to bond. Here to Burnette. Guys. 66 00:02:40.199 --> 00:02:42.639 All right, I started following you on Instagram, right, and 67 00:02:42.680 --> 00:02:44.719 what I love most about you is you both keep 68 00:02:44.759 --> 00:02:46.800 it real, right, You're a little edgy. You tell it 69 00:02:46.840 --> 00:02:50.400 how it is, like, you know, we'll kind of say 70 00:02:50.400 --> 00:02:53.360 this way, like that thing called a job, it is 71 00:02:53.400 --> 00:02:55.039 a job, by the way, Okay, so like there are 72 00:02:55.039 --> 00:02:57.319 things and you're working out there and you got seven 73 00:02:57.400 --> 00:02:59.400 kids between you two, and then your husbands want you 74 00:02:59.400 --> 00:03:00.879 to come home and be like what I just walked 75 00:03:00.879 --> 00:03:04.520 off of the Victoria's Secrets runway like hello, Like hello, 76 00:03:05.280 --> 00:03:08.520 all right. So that's the stuff that really I gra 77 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:10.680 you know, I grasped too, is when you guys are 78 00:03:10.680 --> 00:03:13.319 in that car doing that thing right, and then you 79 00:03:13.400 --> 00:03:16.199 do the funniest like okay, you have like two old 80 00:03:16.199 --> 00:03:18.280 women doing something or too young whatever and you're and 81 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:20.280 you're catching, then you too try to do it. There's 82 00:03:20.319 --> 00:03:22.360 so much great content out there that you guys put 83 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:25.120 here's my question, how do you keep coming up with 84 00:03:25.120 --> 00:03:27.360 the content? And is it? I know a lot of 85 00:03:27.360 --> 00:03:30.240 it's organic because it just kind of flows with you too. 86 00:03:31.120 --> 00:03:32.680 But you have to sit here and say, Okay, what's 87 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:34.800 the next move for us? Like what's the next content? 88 00:03:34.919 --> 00:03:37.280 Or it just comes daily because you both have seven 89 00:03:37.360 --> 00:03:39.919 kids to amazing heusmens, it seems. 90 00:03:39.680 --> 00:03:43.159 Like for you on this point, don't you find that 91 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:46.400 teenagers are the most time consuming people on the planet? 92 00:03:46.560 --> 00:03:48.360 Like don't you find did you find that? Did you 93 00:03:48.360 --> 00:03:50.439 find the teenagers? Like she thinks she's. 94 00:03:50.240 --> 00:03:51.080 Still raising us. 95 00:03:51.360 --> 00:03:52.159 What are you talking about? 96 00:03:52.280 --> 00:03:53.680 I'm thirty seven and he's thirty one. 97 00:03:53.800 --> 00:03:56.039 You think the job ends when they're eighteen? They go 98 00:03:56.240 --> 00:04:00.360 to college so much more time before I don't. I 99 00:04:00.360 --> 00:04:01.479 I am mind blowing. 100 00:04:01.599 --> 00:04:04.719 And when when they get thrown lives and they make 101 00:04:04.840 --> 00:04:09.159 you run their lives with them, it is wow, It's 102 00:04:09.400 --> 00:04:11.400 it's crazy, it's great. I mean, we can't even we 103 00:04:11.439 --> 00:04:14.120 went away together for fun, like in the beginning of. 104 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:15.919 September because we called it work. 105 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:17.600 But it was the best thing we did because we 106 00:04:17.639 --> 00:04:19.199 didn't have to think or talk about them. 107 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:20.959 Now I feel like we want to do it every 108 00:04:20.959 --> 00:04:21.480 single month. 109 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:23.639 But as far as coming up of content, we think about, 110 00:04:23.680 --> 00:04:26.920 like anybody sitting with their best friend, you're never ever 111 00:04:26.959 --> 00:04:27.519 going to run. 112 00:04:27.360 --> 00:04:29.360 Out of things to talk about, like this is this. 113 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:30.120 This started as. 114 00:04:30.000 --> 00:04:33.560 A friendship since ninth grade. It became a business, but 115 00:04:33.600 --> 00:04:36.399 it never stopped being a friendship. And with seven kids 116 00:04:36.439 --> 00:04:40.040 and then two husbands and a friendship, like, there's just there's, 117 00:04:40.240 --> 00:04:42.439 there's there's the content's. 118 00:04:41.959 --> 00:04:43.120 Never going to stop till death. 119 00:04:43.879 --> 00:04:47.439 Yeah, once they get older, what happens? What do you think, 120 00:04:47.519 --> 00:04:49.480 like when they go off to college, it's even worse, 121 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:51.120 like it just gets worse and worse, and then they're 122 00:04:51.120 --> 00:04:53.079 gonna what we didn't get easy. 123 00:04:53.519 --> 00:04:55.000 We're supposed to be looking forward to. 124 00:04:55.160 --> 00:04:57.480 No, no, no, there's no goldens coming ladies. 125 00:04:57.560 --> 00:04:57.839 Sorry. 126 00:04:58.160 --> 00:05:01.000 Remember there's a saying once you have that baby, you 127 00:05:01.079 --> 00:05:02.720 never have a good night's sleep for the rest of 128 00:05:02.720 --> 00:05:05.000 your life. Have you figured that out by now? And 129 00:05:05.040 --> 00:05:07.160 you have seven between both here. 130 00:05:07.079 --> 00:05:09.240 I'm sleeping pretty good right now, but I feel like 131 00:05:11.279 --> 00:05:12.439 I take a sleeping pill. 132 00:05:14.360 --> 00:05:16.199 Not see you out in seconds, and you don't have 133 00:05:16.240 --> 00:05:17.720 any time to think about all the things that you 134 00:05:17.800 --> 00:05:19.839 might have done wrong that day or what's coming up tomorrow. 135 00:05:20.959 --> 00:05:22.920 Bedtime is like my sanctuary. 136 00:05:23.079 --> 00:05:24.800 It's like, I'm but do they go to bed? 137 00:05:26.160 --> 00:05:27.639 Why say to them, if you want me to come 138 00:05:27.639 --> 00:05:29.079 to say good night, you go to bed because I'm 139 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:30.759 going to bed. So that's usually what gets them into 140 00:05:30.759 --> 00:05:31.600 bed for the moment. 141 00:05:31.879 --> 00:05:34.000 For that I said, For like the ones they're going 142 00:05:34.079 --> 00:05:37.279 out at night time, I feel like that's a dad 143 00:05:37.399 --> 00:05:39.199 job to stay up late and wait for them and 144 00:05:39.240 --> 00:05:41.600 like to see if they're like if they're drunk, or 145 00:05:41.639 --> 00:05:43.800 if they're late, or if they're like, I'm like, I. 146 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:45.319 Need to go to bed. I can't sit and wait, 147 00:05:45.360 --> 00:05:46.360 I feel like that's a dad job. 148 00:05:46.680 --> 00:05:48.600 I agree, my dad did that job. It is a 149 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:50.600 dad job. It's okay, she hired, but I did it. 150 00:05:51.879 --> 00:05:54.120 She hired p i's to follow me and then they 151 00:05:54.120 --> 00:05:56.199 bought me drinks. And I was like, good job. 152 00:05:57.240 --> 00:05:59.360 Why the PI? Why did you need one? 153 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:01.839 Because for we were on TV number one and number 154 00:06:01.879 --> 00:06:03.519 two I wanted to make sure she was safe and 155 00:06:03.639 --> 00:06:07.720 number three, I'm justator. No, no, a security god like 156 00:06:07.720 --> 00:06:09.480 a body god on her, not a. 157 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:10.839 Pe bought her drinks? 158 00:06:11.439 --> 00:06:13.079 What an idiot. He was fired the next day. 159 00:06:13.560 --> 00:06:14.439 Fired the next day. 160 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:15.759 He was fire the next day. I was hitting on 161 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:18.040 my daughter. Yeah, that wasn't a good move at all. 162 00:06:18.240 --> 00:06:20.839 Oh, my kay got fired. He thought you should never 163 00:06:20.920 --> 00:06:22.079 hire a hot one. 164 00:06:22.199 --> 00:06:24.079 And then he wasn't really that hot. I don't know 165 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:25.800 when I started. He had he had a good looking mirror. 166 00:06:25.800 --> 00:06:26.399 What do you want me to tell you? 167 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:28.759 When I started driving? One time she was following me, 168 00:06:28.839 --> 00:06:30.560 lost me, and my dad called her and goes, I 169 00:06:30.560 --> 00:06:31.480 have her. You lost her. 170 00:06:32.480 --> 00:06:35.000 I'm following both follow you. Okay, this is a little 171 00:06:35.040 --> 00:06:37.360 fast story. I'm following her because I think she's up 172 00:06:37.399 --> 00:06:40.040 to no good. She's like sixteen and a half. I 173 00:06:40.160 --> 00:06:42.920 just got separated like two years prior to that. So 174 00:06:43.040 --> 00:06:45.720 my acceptance sees me leaving. He follows me because he 175 00:06:45.720 --> 00:06:47.360 wants see if I'm going on a date, right, even 176 00:06:47.360 --> 00:06:50.279 though we separated, So he's following me. I'm following her. 177 00:06:50.560 --> 00:06:52.399 You couldn't make this up in a million years. I'm like, 178 00:06:52.720 --> 00:06:54.800 he goes, you lost her? I go just he calls me, 179 00:06:54.920 --> 00:06:57.560 you lost her? I go, will you? He goes, I'm 180 00:06:57.560 --> 00:06:59.920 following you? Why are you following me? I want to 181 00:07:00.040 --> 00:07:02.040 see if you're going on a date? Dude, was separated? 182 00:07:02.199 --> 00:07:03.600 What if I do? I'm doing? But no, I'm not 183 00:07:03.600 --> 00:07:05.600 going on a date. Well, you can pick her back 184 00:07:05.680 --> 00:07:07.680 up because she's on this location. So I'm gonna follow 185 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:09.720 you as you follow her. It was, yeah, you can't 186 00:07:09.759 --> 00:07:10.720 make this. You can't not. 187 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.079 Will you on? Did you ever follow you and find 188 00:07:13.120 --> 00:07:13.680 you on a date? 189 00:07:14.560 --> 00:07:17.079 I did. I didn't do that. I literally between my 190 00:07:17.160 --> 00:07:20.439 career and my kids. Yeah, I wasn't running around. I 191 00:07:20.759 --> 00:07:22.240 have the time to run around, and I. 192 00:07:22.360 --> 00:07:24.279 Really like the time now to run around. 193 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:26.600 I can't I go back in time. So the man 194 00:07:26.639 --> 00:07:28.879 I'm with now is the man that was through high school. 195 00:07:30.160 --> 00:07:33.519 Yeah, you've heard about that. Yeah, kidding me. 196 00:07:33.680 --> 00:07:35.439 We have heard of you in touch with the high 197 00:07:35.439 --> 00:07:37.600 school manner. You just like pop up out of nowhere. 198 00:07:37.680 --> 00:07:40.560 No, no, not at all. Actually Zero came to a 199 00:07:40.560 --> 00:07:43.079 couple cup of nails events at h G T with 200 00:07:43.240 --> 00:07:45.079 but with a bunch of our old friends. I mean, 201 00:07:45.399 --> 00:07:47.199 he hit TV and gets what happens? All your old 202 00:07:47.240 --> 00:07:50.279 friends resurface and they're on your Facebook anyways, and they 203 00:07:50.519 --> 00:07:52.399 you know, I mean, so yeah, that's how it happened. 204 00:07:52.439 --> 00:07:53.480 So is he great? 205 00:07:53.680 --> 00:07:54.279 He's the best. 206 00:07:55.199 --> 00:07:59.000 I think he was three years old than me. Do 207 00:07:59.000 --> 00:07:59.360 I think it was? 208 00:07:59.399 --> 00:07:59.519 Oh? 209 00:07:59.519 --> 00:08:02.240 He was going just in high school? Gorgeous. Yeah, we do. 210 00:08:02.360 --> 00:08:04.240 When you move, when people when they grow up, out 211 00:08:04.279 --> 00:08:06.759 of the house, do you you can take it back? 212 00:08:06.839 --> 00:08:09.000 You do day things like do day things happen? Like 213 00:08:09.120 --> 00:08:10.839 do you know dayners? Noonurs? 214 00:08:11.160 --> 00:08:11.800 What is she saying? 215 00:08:11.839 --> 00:08:12.439 What does that mean? 216 00:08:13.279 --> 00:08:14.399 You don't know what a noonar is? 217 00:08:14.680 --> 00:08:16.959 They said, what's day quantication? 218 00:08:17.639 --> 00:08:19.040 She's a menopause. That doesn't happen. 219 00:08:19.120 --> 00:08:21.480 No, I'm a menopause. I don't care. Good luck. Wait, 220 00:08:21.560 --> 00:08:22.240 what do you get. 221 00:08:22.439 --> 00:08:23.199 Confusing for us? 222 00:08:23.240 --> 00:08:25.480 Because we heard that, you know, when the kids get older, 223 00:08:25.519 --> 00:08:26.959 you get a certain age all of a sudden, you're 224 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.160 going to be swinging up the raptors. And then half 225 00:08:29.160 --> 00:08:31.000 the other people are telling us, now, the menopause is 226 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:31.759 going to make it all dry. 227 00:08:31.800 --> 00:08:33.480 You're not gonna be in the mood. Which one is it? 228 00:08:33.720 --> 00:08:35.600 Okay, you are going to buy thirty eight? How old 229 00:08:35.639 --> 00:08:36.279 you girls? 230 00:08:37.080 --> 00:08:39.080 And it's like for forty some forty two? 231 00:08:39.320 --> 00:08:41.200 Oh yeah, you're in your prime right now. You're banging 232 00:08:41.240 --> 00:08:44.399 it out. You're holing right now. Still yeah, yeah, what, yeah, 233 00:08:44.440 --> 00:08:47.440 you should be. Okay, then Suddy's taking them way too much. 234 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.519 You meant sorry, we didn't get that memo. Where's that memo? 235 00:08:50.679 --> 00:08:52.639 Okay, we got to find some a long time with 236 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:54.360 your husbands, because you should be in your prime right 237 00:08:54.399 --> 00:08:59.279 now period. We should be absolutely yes, yes, So when 238 00:09:00.279 --> 00:09:02.120 you hit metopause and then you're gonna be like, I'm 239 00:09:02.159 --> 00:09:04.440 gonna kill you and I love you. You're an ass, 240 00:09:04.480 --> 00:09:06.399 you're this, you're that. Oh, by the way, I love 241 00:09:06.559 --> 00:09:09.600 all that. In about three minutes of a conversation, I 242 00:09:09.639 --> 00:09:11.960 hate you, I love you. I'm gonna throw you off 243 00:09:11.960 --> 00:09:16.200 the roof. Oh yeah, it's a it's fun. But wait, 244 00:09:16.480 --> 00:09:18.159 maybe if we're gonna hold that thought for one minute, 245 00:09:18.159 --> 00:09:20.559 because we gotta go to commercial break, and you're listen 246 00:09:20.600 --> 00:09:22.639 to Cindy stump on Topes Nails on w BZ News 247 00:09:22.759 --> 00:09:24.039 Radio ten thirty and be right. 248 00:09:23.960 --> 00:09:30.919 Back, sponsored by Floor and Decor, National Lumber and Village Bank. 249 00:09:33.720 --> 00:09:42.519 One Thing, And welcome back to Toupest Nails on w 250 00:09:42.639 --> 00:09:44.960 b Z News Radio ten thirty. And I'm Cindy Stumpo 251 00:09:45.399 --> 00:09:47.840 and I'm here with Samantha and who might you guess? 252 00:09:48.039 --> 00:09:51.679 You guys, I'm not what do you think? Okay? So 253 00:09:51.799 --> 00:09:53.600 we're gonna get a little bit into the bio of 254 00:09:53.639 --> 00:09:56.080 you guys, okay, because we opened up really like we've 255 00:09:56.080 --> 00:09:58.080 all been best friends for the last thirty years, right, 256 00:09:58.799 --> 00:10:03.000 And and I respect you guys. I love you guys. 257 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:04.759 And you guys should have been around the days when 258 00:10:04.799 --> 00:10:06.759 I was, you know, starting out as a working mom, 259 00:10:07.159 --> 00:10:09.200 and you would have taken a lot of pressure off me, right, 260 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:11.679 you would have. But you went around and neither was 261 00:10:11.759 --> 00:10:14.399 Facebook or YouTube or anything else. It was just me, 262 00:10:14.519 --> 00:10:16.159 myself and I out there in my own little brain. 263 00:10:16.759 --> 00:10:20.440 But seven kids, you guys became. You've been friends since 264 00:10:20.519 --> 00:10:22.200 ninth grade. She knows I have a best friend since 265 00:10:22.200 --> 00:10:26.799 fourth grade? Did this just all happen? Organically the cat 266 00:10:26.960 --> 00:10:29.519 nat or nat and cat show whose name comes for us, 267 00:10:29.559 --> 00:10:32.919 by the way, and then pay attention, why yeah, oh 268 00:10:32.960 --> 00:10:33.320 you're c. 269 00:10:33.559 --> 00:10:37.240 Well alphabetically alphabetically got to go. 270 00:10:37.200 --> 00:10:40.519 In order, okay, And then this just grew into what's 271 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:42.759 something that you were doing at home, like to bring 272 00:10:42.879 --> 00:10:45.960 I want my I want my listeners to hear how 273 00:10:46.080 --> 00:10:49.120 just you normal really pretty girls, and you are very 274 00:10:49.320 --> 00:10:51.399 You're both very beautiful. Okay, so let's go there. 275 00:10:51.919 --> 00:10:56.360 That's what our mom's saying. That's yeah, our moms are 276 00:10:56.440 --> 00:10:57.399 very generous. 277 00:10:57.000 --> 00:10:59.600 With us if you if you with compliments. 278 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:02.919 This was before influencing was a thing. 279 00:11:03.080 --> 00:11:06.440 Like we started before people were doing this as a living. 280 00:11:06.559 --> 00:11:09.600 As people were doing this like as content creation, you know, 281 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:13.559 Facebook was just Facebook, and we started doing real time 282 00:11:13.600 --> 00:11:16.960 events and with women and bringing them together, and then 283 00:11:17.080 --> 00:11:19.919 it just kind of grew because everyone we were sort 284 00:11:19.919 --> 00:11:22.279 of the only two stay at home moms at that time. 285 00:11:22.360 --> 00:11:24.759 It was, you know, fifteen years ago, which feels like 286 00:11:25.080 --> 00:11:27.840 or sixteen years ago feels like forever ago, when you 287 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:30.360 were supposed to really the expectation was to go to 288 00:11:30.399 --> 00:11:32.679 work full time, be a full stay at home mom. 289 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.440 While you work full time, be banged but don't talk 290 00:11:35.440 --> 00:11:38.000 about your kids, like make sure that they're perfect. 291 00:11:38.039 --> 00:11:39.360 Like it really Pinterest was. 292 00:11:39.320 --> 00:11:43.799 The the with the platform of what everyone was doing, 293 00:11:43.840 --> 00:11:46.039 and we were the exact opposite of Pinterest moms. And 294 00:11:46.080 --> 00:11:48.360 I think when we just started talking, people sort of 295 00:11:48.360 --> 00:11:50.000 looked to us like, oh my gosh, they must know 296 00:11:50.039 --> 00:11:52.240 because they stayed home. Meanwhile, we really didn't know anything. 297 00:11:52.600 --> 00:11:54.759 But it was just people were desperate for our conversation. 298 00:11:55.120 --> 00:11:56.919 And there was a time when you would go out 299 00:11:57.000 --> 00:11:58.919 and you were not allowed to talk about your kids 300 00:11:58.960 --> 00:12:01.240 because you were not interested if you talked about your kids. 301 00:12:01.320 --> 00:12:02.159 They were supposed to work. 302 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:03.480 Like I'm that generation. 303 00:12:03.080 --> 00:12:05.559 Chet kids, but be a stay at home mom, Like 304 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:06.480 you have kids, so. 305 00:12:06.559 --> 00:12:08.080 You don't want to be that person who like goes 306 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.639 to the dinner party like all she ever does is 307 00:12:09.679 --> 00:12:12.559 talk about her kids, Like oh god, but literally, I 308 00:12:12.600 --> 00:12:14.519 can barely think about anything else. It's the only thing 309 00:12:14.559 --> 00:12:15.840 on my mind. Now I'm supposed to come up with 310 00:12:15.879 --> 00:12:16.960 something else to talk about. 311 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.039 So they would whisper to us like is this normal? 312 00:12:20.279 --> 00:12:20.519 You know? 313 00:12:20.559 --> 00:12:22.559 And I think there was this really weird thing about 314 00:12:22.559 --> 00:12:25.879 where people felt like they were so failing every day 315 00:12:25.919 --> 00:12:27.879 because Pintress was telling us we were doing it wrong, 316 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:29.840 and the TV, you know, people tried to put us 317 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.600 on TV and like make us like thing like Pinterest moms, 318 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.360 literally and we just kept failing. And then we're like, 319 00:12:35.639 --> 00:12:38.159 literally screw it, like we can't be who were not, 320 00:12:38.919 --> 00:12:41.440 and we just kind of began to push back. 321 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:45.480 Okay, let me understand this. So I've seen it. I 322 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.399 can't say fifteen sixteen years ago. Look, I've been in 323 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:50.399 business for thirty eight years since I had Sammy and 324 00:12:50.440 --> 00:12:52.960 my belly, right, and now you're aging me. Now'm maging 325 00:12:53.000 --> 00:12:55.480 you two. With that being said, I was the bad 326 00:12:55.559 --> 00:12:57.799 mommy back then, right, think about it, I was the 327 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:00.559 mom getting tortured. Would I'd be running to a baseball game, 328 00:13:00.639 --> 00:13:03.120 softball game, basketball game, my son, whatever she was doing, 329 00:13:03.559 --> 00:13:05.320 and here comes to bad mummy right with the beeper. 330 00:13:05.480 --> 00:13:06.960 I know you probably don't know what a beeper is, 331 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:09.080 but we had beeper as we had next heels and 332 00:13:09.159 --> 00:13:12.039 cell phones, three devices going at all times. And then 333 00:13:12.120 --> 00:13:16.000 mothers would be sitting on the you know, those those benches, 334 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.120 and they look up at the bleachers and look up 335 00:13:18.120 --> 00:13:21.480 at me like you know, and I'd be like this, yeah, 336 00:13:21.679 --> 00:13:25.440 turn your head now right now, because not today, I'm 337 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:27.639 not in the mood. So somebody's going to get thrown 338 00:13:27.679 --> 00:13:30.279 off the bleaches and they would just go yeah, and 339 00:13:30.320 --> 00:13:32.000 they'd say, oh, I wonder how her kids are going 340 00:13:32.039 --> 00:13:34.080 to turn out, right, she's always working, right, And now 341 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:37.679 it's all changed. Right now, the moms that want to 342 00:13:37.679 --> 00:13:39.960 stay home and raise their kids, they like the bad mommies, right, 343 00:13:40.000 --> 00:13:43.720 I what's changed in three decades. But I did not 344 00:13:43.960 --> 00:13:46.720 see the change till about ten years ago where I've 345 00:13:46.720 --> 00:13:48.600 seen women really going out there. I didn't see it 346 00:13:48.600 --> 00:13:51.360 fifteen sixteen years ago. And definitely we did not much. 347 00:13:51.240 --> 00:13:52.080 Of my idea either. 348 00:13:52.600 --> 00:13:54.360 That's why we were like, this is not changing for it, 349 00:13:54.399 --> 00:13:57.200 like this is not us. We're not represented anywhere, and 350 00:13:57.240 --> 00:13:58.159 we were, we. 351 00:13:58.000 --> 00:14:00.320 Were, But isn't that sad because you want to be 352 00:14:00.840 --> 00:14:03.440 home with your kids. You got seven kids and they 353 00:14:03.480 --> 00:14:06.360 need your attention. And then yeah, it's. 354 00:14:06.200 --> 00:14:08.720 Really expensive, Like day care was very expensive and for 355 00:14:08.759 --> 00:14:10.759 some of us that you actually it made more, you 356 00:14:10.799 --> 00:14:13.120 paid more to go used to be that you would 357 00:14:13.159 --> 00:14:15.519 have to really work enough money that it even made 358 00:14:15.600 --> 00:14:17.360 sense to send them to daycare, because I mean some 359 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:20.360 of the daycares in the neighborhoods were like fourteen fifteen 360 00:14:20.399 --> 00:14:24.559 hundred dollars a month, like just to eighteen hundred two thousand. 361 00:14:24.320 --> 00:14:28.600 If they were young, right, Yeah, though you had to 362 00:14:28.600 --> 00:14:29.480 to cover your costs. 363 00:14:29.519 --> 00:14:31.600 It was ludicrous and you're like, I'm not making enough 364 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:33.639 money to cover what I'm setting there. 365 00:14:33.639 --> 00:14:34.879 I'm like, I'm barely making. 366 00:14:34.679 --> 00:14:37.200 Anything after taxes to get these kids into daycare and 367 00:14:37.200 --> 00:14:38.919 then they're sick all the time so I'm home with them. 368 00:14:38.919 --> 00:14:41.600 It really it's a really hard, a really hard thing 369 00:14:41.639 --> 00:14:42.279 for a lot of people. 370 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:44.320 So you know, the conversations just were. 371 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:46.200 Really natural and organic, and I don't think you don't 372 00:14:46.240 --> 00:14:49.480 set out Back then, there was no video capability on websites, 373 00:14:49.519 --> 00:14:52.799 so there was no intention for us to become what 374 00:14:52.879 --> 00:14:55.519 it was really just let's let's get together and talk 375 00:14:55.559 --> 00:14:59.799 about things and then pot it all just grew very natural. Yeah. 376 00:15:00.000 --> 00:15:01.279 I didn't set out and say, Okay, we're going to 377 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:02.960 start a business and this is what we're gonna do. 378 00:15:03.080 --> 00:15:05.919 It was something that we really thought was missing out 379 00:15:05.960 --> 00:15:08.399 there for not only ourselves, but all of our friends 380 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:10.679 and other moms and everyone was just like, I want 381 00:15:10.679 --> 00:15:11.440 some sort of a connection. 382 00:15:11.480 --> 00:15:13.519 I want a place where we can talk openly. 383 00:15:13.480 --> 00:15:15.840 Not judge each other understand that, like, different moms have 384 00:15:15.879 --> 00:15:17.639 different styles of parenting and they don't all have to 385 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:19.200 be the same, but it doesn't mean we can't still 386 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:19.679 be friends. 387 00:15:20.200 --> 00:15:22.440 And so it's sort of like just one thing led 388 00:15:22.480 --> 00:15:22.960 to another. 389 00:15:23.919 --> 00:15:26.360 And then you do these events and I've watched it 390 00:15:26.360 --> 00:15:29.320 on Instagram, like you get a crowd going like I've 391 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:33.919 never seen, right, and then you have mail dancers. I know, 392 00:15:34.080 --> 00:15:37.559 I see the male dances come out. So just so 393 00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:40.840 my audience can understand that, can visualize. And by the way, 394 00:15:40.879 --> 00:15:44.080 you should be following them on Instagram and you will 395 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:48.559 see exactly the content they put out. And your Instagram 396 00:15:48.639 --> 00:15:51.080 is I follow you on Instagram, not Facebook or all 397 00:15:51.120 --> 00:15:51.679 the other side. 398 00:15:51.919 --> 00:15:54.200 It's all at cat now Cat. 399 00:15:54.600 --> 00:15:56.320 And you just bring it up and it comes right 400 00:15:56.399 --> 00:15:59.639 up and you got you Literally, if you're a normal 401 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:03.159