Speaker 1: You're listening to Bigfoot Society, and I'm Jeremiah Byron Tonight's
Speaker 1: story is about a man lured into the woods by
Speaker 1: the sound of a dog in pain. And what happened
Speaker 1: was rock throws, growls, and something that knew exactly where
Speaker 1: he lived, and it didn't stop in the forest. It
Speaker 1: left gifts and it left marks, and it might be
Speaker 1: responding to a frequency that you've never heard of. This
Speaker 1: is a story of Chris Rhinhart and what happens when
Speaker 1: Bigfoot starts throwing pine cones. So stay with us. Information
Speaker 1: provided in this episode is for entertainment purposes only. All right,
Speaker 1: big Fort Society. You've got the privilege of talking to
Speaker 1: Chris Reinhart today. He's an individual from Connecticut. We are
Speaker 1: going to be talking to him about Bigfoot, of course.
Speaker 1: Today he's an investigator looking into the Bigfoot phenomenon really
Speaker 1: all over the place. I know he's gone to a
Speaker 1: few cool places, so he's not just out there in Connecticut,
Speaker 1: and we might talk about that later. He's gone to
Speaker 1: a few are cool places as well. But welcome to
Speaker 1: the show, Chris. How's it going today?
Speaker 2: Oh very well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 1: Jeremiah absolutely you know, Chris, you're an individual. I've wanted
Speaker 1: to talk to you for a long time because you
Speaker 1: do come up every every so often in other conversations
Speaker 1: I have with people. And I was watching some of
Speaker 1: Doug's shows on Snellgrove Lake, and I believe you were
Speaker 1: up there recently too with the gang. So you kind
Speaker 1: of pop pop in and out every everywhere, which is cool.
Speaker 1: But you know, Chris, someone like yourself, where you've been
Speaker 1: in it for a few years, would you be able
Speaker 1: to share what got you into the bigfoot field to
Speaker 1: begin with.
Speaker 2: So I've been doing this for like ten years now,
Speaker 2: and believe it or not, it was YouTube that got
Speaker 2: me interested in the Bigfoot. I really didn't even know
Speaker 2: that there were people other than you saw on TV
Speaker 2: that were actually investigating bigfoot in the forest. And I
Speaker 2: always had a fascination with Bigfoot my whole childhood growing up,
Speaker 2: and I always I was a believer. And when I
Speaker 2: got rid of my cable TV started streaming my son
Speaker 2: in law, my son in law told me about YouTube,
Speaker 2: and I knew nothing, you know, I knew nothing about
Speaker 2: you doing, nothing about streaming, and so I put in
Speaker 2: Bigfoot in this whole world opened up to me and
Speaker 2: I followed a few people, and I'm like, hey, why
Speaker 2: can't I go do what they're doing here in Connecticut
Speaker 2: and see what I can find? And ten years later,
Speaker 2: I've had some quite the experiences. So it was, oh,
Speaker 2: it all to YouTube. Where I am, where I've gotten
Speaker 2: to today. I guess.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. It's very similar to when you talk to
Speaker 1: the guys, you know, the guys who got got started
Speaker 1: back when the Internet first came into households and and
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, they were just typing bigfoot into
Speaker 1: the basic Internet. And uh, YouTube is kind of its
Speaker 1: own thing. It's its own animal with how many shows
Speaker 1: and researchers are on that that platform. But do you
Speaker 1: have I believe you've come up maybe about was it
Speaker 1: American Legion State Forest? Did you have some involvement with
Speaker 1: that in Connecticut?
Speaker 2: Yeah. One of my areas is actually in People's Forest.
Speaker 2: It's right next to the American Legion. They're they're they're
Speaker 2: side by side, They're not, they're just two different names,
Speaker 2: but it's the same forest, the same woods. And I
Speaker 2: have an area called black Thorugh Alley. You know, everybody
Speaker 2: gives their areas a name, so you can when you
Speaker 2: make your videos, people know where you're at. Or I
Speaker 2: guess that was the thing that I learned to do
Speaker 2: when I when I was investigating, it's easier to keep
Speaker 2: track of where you got stuff going on. And so yeah,
Speaker 2: Rockborough Alley is actually in people's state forest here in Connecticut,
Speaker 2: northwest corner.
Speaker 1: That's awesome and that that came up. I talked to
Speaker 1: a researcher's name was Tom She. I'm gonna see it,
Speaker 1: Tom She. I know I'm saying that wrong, so bad.
Speaker 1: It's episode five seventy six. I apologize, Tom.
Speaker 2: It's been a while, but from North Carolina, right, yea, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he came. Yeah, he came up here and
Speaker 2: we went he I bought him. He brought me to
Speaker 2: the spot where he had his interaction and but we
Speaker 2: never made it up to my spot that day. But yeah,
Speaker 2: I got together when he was here. So that's pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: So, Chris, when you were first getting into it, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe ten eight years ago, was there a point where
Speaker 1: you had some kind of interaction in the woods where
Speaker 1: it really pushed you over the edge and you were like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I just went from ninety nine percent to like one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent, Like this is no turning back
Speaker 1: from this.
Speaker 2: All right. So my very first interaction actually happened at
Speaker 2: People's state forest and we were actually lured into the
Speaker 2: woods by like we my buddy. My buddy got into
Speaker 2: it at the same time as his name is Mike Saijsky,
Speaker 2: and he got into it about the same time I did.
Speaker 2: And he was hiking by himself, you know, the day before,
Speaker 2: and he found these weird tree structures and he got
Speaker 2: home that night and called me up and said, hey,
Speaker 2: we got to go check these out. So we went
Speaker 2: out the next time. We're fresh, I mean, we just
Speaker 2: I just started. Had a cell phone in a notebook.
Speaker 2: That's all we brought. We didn't know about you know,
Speaker 2: we didn't have fleer cameras or camcord. We had nothing.
Speaker 2: And we went in the woods to check out these
Speaker 2: these structures. And while we were there, we were we
Speaker 2: heard this dog whimpering noise and it sounded like a
Speaker 2: dog got hit by a car, like it was hurt.
Speaker 2: It was, you know, that whimper that who And we're
Speaker 2: near a road, I mean, we're near the state forest,
Speaker 2: so there's roads around the state force. So we figured
Speaker 2: a dog was hit and it was injured, so let's
Speaker 2: go check it out. So we go to the spot
Speaker 2: where we hear the whimper, and we get to the
Speaker 2: spot and there's nothing there. Fifty feet in front of
Speaker 2: us to our left, we hear the whimper again, So
Speaker 2: we figured the dog got scared, he's hurt and he
Speaker 2: crawled away. So we go up to where that sound
Speaker 2: is and we get there and there's nothing there. We
Speaker 2: do it, I think two to three more times and
Speaker 2: then on the last time, my buddy, my buddy taking
Speaker 2: and shure. He goes, Chris, whatever this is is luring
Speaker 2: us into the forest fifty feet by fifty feet by
Speaker 2: fifty feet by fifty feet were we are going back
Speaker 2: into the forest. So he says, it's getting dark. We
Speaker 2: have no flashlights, so it's turn around and get back
Speaker 2: to the get back to the logging road and then
Speaker 2: we can come back, you know, another day. So we
Speaker 2: turned around and we didn't run, but we were walking
Speaker 2: as fast as we could through through the foliage. You know.
Speaker 2: We were off trail and we got back out to
Speaker 2: the low ugging road and we heard a grunt growl
Speaker 2: thing like the and we turned around and this rock
Speaker 2: came flying through the fold, landed right on the right,
Speaker 2: on the right and back of me on the logging road,
Speaker 2: and we're like looking at each other, what is this is?
Speaker 2: This is what the Sasquatch are we reported to do?
Speaker 2: And they mimic and list and there we high tailed
Speaker 2: it back to the truck and we got in the
Speaker 2: truck and we were talking about it all the way
Speaker 2: home and we're like, holy cow, what was that? You
Speaker 2: know what throws stones? And did we have a sasquatch experience?
Speaker 2: And after that that was it for me. I was
Speaker 2: ready for it and I have a traveling bone and
Speaker 2: ever since then, I go and try and you know,
Speaker 2: see all I can see, and hang out with who
Speaker 2: I can hang out with and experience what we can.
Speaker 2: But that first interaction, that's what That's what hooked me.
Speaker 1: I could definitely see how how that would hook you. No,
Speaker 1: alb And is this an area that you go back
Speaker 1: to You've gone back to multiple times as well?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, I've been going there for ten years.
Speaker 2: I've had I have two I had like three habituation
Speaker 2: spots here in Connecticut. And actually two of them out
Speaker 2: of the three have been sold, so I can't even
Speaker 2: go back to them. I had one called Larry's that
Speaker 2: I went to for six years and we traded with
Speaker 2: whatever was living there, and it was quite the experience
Speaker 2: there too. But yeah, I've been that rock That's how
Speaker 2: Rock Throw Alley actually got its name. Was that rock
Speaker 2: throw that that first day we were there, That's how
Speaker 2: we named it.
Speaker 1: So it sounds like you then pretty quickly got involved
Speaker 1: with some pretty intense things. You had, you know, gifting
Speaker 1: back and forth different habituation sites. I have taught to
Speaker 1: a few people over the years, and I I do
Speaker 1: notice patterns that start to arise. Was there ever a
Speaker 1: point where things started to get weird when you were
Speaker 1: involved with this research or going into these habituation areas?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, things got, you know, things just it's progressed
Speaker 2: over the ten years. It gets stranger and stranger the
Speaker 2: closer you get to the phenomenon. I've had a coyote
Speaker 2: leg left at my back door, freshly ripped off the dog.
Speaker 2: My wife found I this was had to do with
Speaker 2: the gifting area. I got sick and I we were
Speaker 2: training with him for about three years and I got
Speaker 2: sick and my gallbladder went. I mean, I couldn't make
Speaker 2: it up there for like I don't know, like four weeks.
Speaker 2: So on the fourth week, I came downstairs. I finally
Speaker 2: got back to work, my stomach finally healed, and my
Speaker 2: wife looks out the back window and she goes, what
Speaker 2: is that buie down by the back door? And I'm
Speaker 2: looking on I'm like, geez, I don't know what that is.
Speaker 2: So I go downstairs and I open up the door
Speaker 2: and there is a freshly ripped off the dog blood guts,
Speaker 2: gross broken, just like freshly torn flesh off the hind
Speaker 2: leg of a dog of a coyote left at my
Speaker 2: back door. And I'm like, I go up say, I
Speaker 2: tell her, I'm going, Maria, you don't guess what this is,
Speaker 2: but it's a fresh coyote leg, and she's like, get
Speaker 2: rid of that thing. I don't want that thing here,
Speaker 2: And so I chucked it in the forest and the
Speaker 2: wine got I work where I live, So I went
Speaker 2: and got the guys that work for me, and I
Speaker 2: brought them back down here to show them the leg,
Speaker 2: and the leg was gone. Something took that leg. So
Speaker 2: that's when it started getting weird when you get animal
Speaker 2: parts left at your back door. And my gifting area
Speaker 2: is not close here, It's not close. It's over two mountains.
Speaker 2: It's probably ten miles away from here through the forest.
Speaker 2: So how a guy here and I can only guess,
Speaker 2: said it there. But then then a structure showed up
Speaker 2: like a hundred yards in the backyard too, a teepee
Speaker 2: structure that's still there to this day. Then that's when
Speaker 2: things started to getting weird, when night they figured out
Speaker 2: that they knew where you lived.
Speaker 1: Well, that's the thing that people need to realize is
Speaker 1: that if you start going more oftentimes than not, if
Speaker 1: you start going into this field and you keep going,
Speaker 1: it will come back to your house in some way.
Speaker 1: And it is very very interesting. I mean that I've
Speaker 1: heard a number of people say it's it's usually deer
Speaker 1: legs that are found on their property, deer legs ripped off,
Speaker 1: or headless animals or animals with their necks broken, which.
Speaker 2: Is rabbits, a lot of rabbits too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just really weird stuff. And I mean sometimes even
Speaker 1: things start happening in side the house, which is I
Speaker 1: don't even know how that would be related to Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: But is it a pattern that I've seen, Is that
Speaker 1: anything where you've found things happening inside the house as well,
Speaker 1: or is it pretty much like it'll stop outside the
Speaker 1: border of the walls.
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, No, We've had stuff happened inside the house.
Speaker 2: I had had the house blessed twice. The kids, my
Speaker 2: grandchildren were living with us, and they were seeing monsters,
Speaker 2: and you were seeing the monsters in the corner of
Speaker 2: the house, and they were seeing monsters at the top
Speaker 2: of the stairs, and they were seeing monsters everywhere. And
Speaker 2: then I woke up one one day and I had
Speaker 2: three scratches on the inside of my arm, and it
Speaker 2: all built up, and the house was very heavy. And
Speaker 2: even my wife will tell you if she was here.
Speaker 2: And and I went up to my friend Alice aunt
Speaker 2: Riga's birthday party and I told him what was going on.
Speaker 2: If you guys, if you guys knew all was They
Speaker 2: call him the squatch Father. Yeah. Yeah, he's like one
Speaker 2: of my best friends. He's the one that helped you
Speaker 2: with the weird because it has gotten very, very weird
Speaker 2: for me. And he told me, he's like, Chris, you
Speaker 2: got something in your house, he says, I don't know
Speaker 2: what it is or something, you know, you brought something
Speaker 2: home from somewhere. And this was after I returned from
Speaker 2: the Green Swamp in Florida. We had some crazy stuff
Speaker 2: going down there with our phones and it was wild, wild,
Speaker 2: wild stuff. And he says, you got to have your
Speaker 2: house blessed, so we had he set it up for us.
Speaker 2: He knew a priest that could come and do it,
Speaker 2: and they came and they blessed the house, and my
Speaker 2: wife even when they left, she goes, I don't know
Speaker 2: what to expect from all this, but she says, there's
Speaker 2: it's lighter in the house. It doesn't feel that heavy feeling.
Speaker 2: And I'm sitting down in my office and I'm calling
Speaker 2: out to thank him for having, you know, having set
Speaker 2: this up for us, and my cat walks into my
Speaker 2: little office and jumps up on my lap. My cat
Speaker 2: would never ever come in my office. The door would
Speaker 2: be wide open. He would walk by a hundred million
Speaker 2: times to see me in there, would kill him not
Speaker 2: to be, but he would never go in there. After
Speaker 2: that day that house was blessed. The house was blessed.
Speaker 2: The cat came right in my room. So I don't
Speaker 2: know what was here, I don't, but they said it
Speaker 2: was a Native American something or other. We went across
Speaker 2: something and three of us that were there that day.
Speaker 2: I don't know how they knew all this stuff. And
Speaker 2: we're linked forever. And so I was with Chris Connor
Speaker 2: from the traidl Bigfoot and his sister and we to
Speaker 2: this day. When he has stuff going on down to
Speaker 2: his place, he calls me and asks me if there's
Speaker 2: stuff going on up here. And most of the time
Speaker 2: there's the activity is is happening here and in Florida. So yeah,
Speaker 2: so that's that's happened twice. And then I've learned how
Speaker 2: to smudge my own house now, so I don't take
Speaker 2: that lightly anymore after the scratches.
Speaker 1: That's that is really that's really concerning. When it was
Speaker 1: being reported that they're they're like monsters in the corners
Speaker 1: of the house, would would they describe like what they
Speaker 1: saw it all? Or do you think it was maybe
Speaker 1: a shadow people or do you have any ideas about that?
Speaker 2: I think I think they were. They were bigfoot looking things,
Speaker 2: I really do, because they they know about Bigfoot. They
Speaker 2: they're were on me. They've grown up around me, they've
Speaker 2: lived with us. They live with us their first six
Speaker 2: six years of their lives, and four they're six and
Speaker 2: four now, yeah, I mean the little one even has
Speaker 2: bigfoot dolls that she takes to school with her. I mean,
Speaker 2: she's therein they know bigfoot, and that's what I believe
Speaker 2: they were seeing. And they were calling the monsters, but
Speaker 2: they said they looked like monkeys, so I think they
Speaker 2: were afraid. I don't think they don't think they were
Speaker 2: here to hurt them. But I can't. I don't understand
Speaker 2: the scratches.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's a new level I have not heard of. Usually,
Speaker 1: when people will report that something's going on, it's like
Speaker 1: they start seeing things, where they start hearing things. They'll
Speaker 1: maybe hear a voice in the back of a room,
Speaker 1: like a gurgling voice, something like that. But I've never
Speaker 1: heard of anyone actually being physically hurt like you were.
Speaker 1: So that is definitely a new level.
Speaker 2: Right right. So, But I don't know if that was
Speaker 2: a big fun you know, I can't I couldn'tn't see
Speaker 2: what it was whatever they chased out of here. Never can't.
Speaker 2: And the kids never mentioned monsters again after that day, Okay,
Speaker 2: never again ever to this day, I still haven't said
Speaker 2: there's monsters here anymore.
Speaker 1: So when you go to different places when you get home,
Speaker 1: then do you have a protocol that you follow to
Speaker 1: make sure things are cool?
Speaker 2: Yes, I sure do. Do I do that now for sure?
Speaker 2: But even before I go in, I bring holy water
Speaker 2: with me into the forest. Now in my backpack, I
Speaker 2: smudge my stuff. I have a liquid smudge. I have,
Speaker 2: you know, the smoke smudge. I have everything to cleanse
Speaker 2: my stuff before and after I enter the house. There's
Speaker 2: other things on the forest. You know that obviously.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. So all it took was one trip out to
Speaker 1: Oregon to find that out really quick.
Speaker 2: And it introduces itself to you and uh and it
Speaker 2: just keep continues and the more you open up to
Speaker 2: the phenomena, the more that you're going to experience.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, do you have any So here's the thing,
Speaker 1: because when you when you talk to to individuals like
Speaker 1: yourself that have experienced kind of a path that people
Speaker 1: go through, which is I mean, it's not just happening
Speaker 1: to you and one other dude like this is happening
Speaker 1: to people all over the US that are involved with
Speaker 1: with Bigfoot. Do you have any thoughts over the last
Speaker 1: ten years of what we might be dealing with when
Speaker 1: it comes to what Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Is, Well, that well that I've done this for ten
Speaker 2: years and I know that the Bigfoot are real. I've
Speaker 2: seen the Bigfoot. I've seen you know, I've seen one live.
Speaker 2: I've seen three on thermal. I've seen spider crawling on thermal.
Speaker 2: I've seen I know they're they're there. I've had multiple
Speaker 2: stones thrown at me. I've had witnesses to all this stuff.
Speaker 2: I've gone to Canada and had experiences like a snow
Speaker 2: Grove lake. Like you said, we had to experiences with
Speaker 2: what we believed to be sasquatch up there. I've been
Speaker 2: forward and had experiences of sasquatch. I've been to Colorado.
Speaker 2: Everywhere I've gone, i've had an interaction with with some
Speaker 2: kind of crypt it of some sort. So where was
Speaker 2: I going to go with that? I always do this.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I'm a bad interview. I get so excited
Speaker 2: and I lose track. Where was I What were you're saying?
Speaker 2: What was the question? Again? Just briefly, I'll get right
Speaker 2: back on track.
Speaker 1: Well, in this way, I'm terrible as well, because I
Speaker 1: get so involved with it. That I will sometimes get
Speaker 1: you know, you know how it is, but oh oh yes,
Speaker 1: I remember. Now, do you have any thoughts about what
Speaker 1: we might be dealing with and to kind of throw
Speaker 1: it so some people think that, you know, Bigfoot might
Speaker 1: a flesh and blood creature, or there's some people that
Speaker 1: it might be something else, can completely different, right right.
Speaker 2: That's where I was going with it. So I've been
Speaker 2: all over the place, and now I've done it for
Speaker 2: ten years and now I've switched things up. I believe
Speaker 2: that the phenomenon is linked. I believe that it's linked
Speaker 2: to the dog Man. I believe that they're all the
Speaker 2: cryptids are linked. I believe the ghosts and spirits are linked.
Speaker 2: I believe Bigfoot is flesh and blood. But I also
Speaker 2: believe I believe that they come here to hunt. I
Speaker 2: am almost one hundred percent positive. Is that why they're here?
Speaker 2: But where they come from, I can guarantee you that
Speaker 2: they're not the hide and Seek champions of the world. Again,
Speaker 2: I just before we going for them. I am not
Speaker 2: the big Foot guru. This is just my opinion. I
Speaker 2: do not know. This is just what I'm basing my
Speaker 2: thoughts on what I've experienced I believe they're from somewhere else.
Speaker 2: I don't know if it's from another dimension. I don't
Speaker 2: know if it's from I haven't seen that. I've never
Speaker 2: seen a portal. I've never seen anything. But I know
Speaker 2: that these guys there might be hybrids that live here
Speaker 2: all the time. Maybe they live deep in Cays, but
Speaker 2: there's not that many. I don't think. I just think
Speaker 2: they can come and go and they know how to
Speaker 2: do it. And I don't not explain it, and I
Speaker 2: can't prove it, but that's just what I think. I
Speaker 2: believe they're flesh and blood. But I also believe that
Speaker 2: they can come and go. And I believe that sebum
Speaker 2: stuff that they're talking about, that white substance that they
Speaker 2: leaves like a protective jelly, they put on themselves to
Speaker 2: be able to do that, to be able to go
Speaker 2: back and forth. And I guarantee you I can't I
Speaker 2: guess I shouldn't say I can't care. I bet you
Speaker 2: had a top of coffee that that stuff has some
Speaker 2: kind of some kind of form of radiation. I bet
Speaker 2: you have registers with a Geiger counter. I just have
Speaker 2: this feeling, and we're planning as soon as we got
Speaker 2: it because we carry Geiger counters. Now as soon as
Speaker 2: I get a chance to test it, we're going to us.
Speaker 2: But I bet you, I bet you any amount of money.
Speaker 2: I think we might be onto something with that. But
Speaker 2: then again that's just my opinion.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think you might be onto something there.
Speaker 1: I remember talking to Joe purdueing Ron Lanham from West Virginia.
Speaker 1: This is years ago, but they actually had a situation
Speaker 1: where there were tracks found and they had a one
Speaker 1: of those Geiger counters with them and actually was showing
Speaker 1: up radioactive when they would put it near the track
Speaker 1: impressions in the ground. So yeah, it definitely, definitely could
Speaker 1: could be something there. When you're out in the woods,
Speaker 1: have you ever experienced anything such as not being able
Speaker 1: to move or maybe when people are think they're hit
Speaker 1: by something called infrasound, where it'll it'll affect them physically
Speaker 1: in different ways.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think so. I've been around radio frequency
Speaker 2: levels that are alarming. We bring radio frequency meters with
Speaker 2: us like a rock thorough ally. Take for instance, I've
Speaker 2: brought and I've brought people up to my I have
Speaker 2: a spot up there I can bring people to. They
Speaker 2: come in rocks will fly and our RF meters will
Speaker 2: go off the wall. I mean they don't. We had it.
Speaker 2: We contacted the company that made them and we're like,
Speaker 2: what does one dash dash dash dash dash dash dash
Speaker 2: stand for? And they just roll back. Oh, that means
Speaker 2: that it doesn't go any higher. So we had a
Speaker 2: satellite communication guy reached out to us and he says, listen,
Speaker 2: I've been to satellite communications for the government for a
Speaker 2: long time, and he says, I did the I did
Speaker 2: the background check on your guys meters and it's a
Speaker 2: broadband meter. He says, there's nothing in the forest that
Speaker 2: you should be picking up for that long of a
Speaker 2: time that gives off that much radio radiation there. She said,
Speaker 2: there's nothing. There's nothing there. He says, there's nothing that
Speaker 2: you He said, if you were in a fair day box,
Speaker 2: you guys would be cooked. So we've experienced that. I've
Speaker 2: never experienced like like you said, I never said confusion
Speaker 2: or anything like that. We got lost one time at
Speaker 2: the gifting area. I mean we did pattern hikes. I
Speaker 2: recommend pattern hikes to anybody that has a habituation area.
Speaker 2: It's it's the way they know you go where you're
Speaker 2: going to go. They know where you're going, and they
Speaker 2: know where you came from, so they can get ahead
Speaker 2: of you, they can follow you, and there's no surprises.
Speaker 2: So pattern hikes is always a good thing. But we
Speaker 2: got lost on our pattern hike one time and we
Speaker 2: didn't know where we were. We did that pattern hike
Speaker 2: for six years, the same exact hike. We never you know,
Speaker 2: we never ventured from it once we made it. You know,
Speaker 2: we took a little while to make it. We had
Speaker 2: little spots and we would mark them and we made
Speaker 2: all of a sudden we made this big loop and uh,
Speaker 2: but we got lost one time, so I guess that
Speaker 2: that counts. And when we when we realized we were
Speaker 2: off the path, we looked up and we looked at
Speaker 2: and there was just like this big X right in
Speaker 2: front of us, like a perfect X stuck in the ground.
Speaker 2: It was it was a crazy X. That was probably about,
Speaker 2: I don't know, eight years ago.
Speaker 1: Probably I want to circle back to the radio frequencies
Speaker 1: for a little bit. So what would So you're you're
Speaker 1: bringing these these thing, these devices out into the field
Speaker 1: and it's picking up different signals. But the guy that
Speaker 1: was looking at it was saying, if you had been
Speaker 1: exposed to this, you should be cooked. What what would what?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Well, if you were an affair, it's like a microwave,
Speaker 2: if you were in a fair Day box. So basically
Speaker 2: what a microwave is the radiation of the broad the
Speaker 2: broad It was a broadband meter. So he said, if
Speaker 2: you were find into a small, little Faraday box, you
Speaker 2: would be cooked because that that the amount of radiation
Speaker 2: that we were getting from this radio frequency would have
Speaker 2: cooked us. But it was such a broad band. You're
Speaker 2: out in the you're out in the open air. You're
Speaker 2: not going to get cooked, he said. But if you
Speaker 2: were in a Faraday box, you for sure would have
Speaker 2: been cooked.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting.
Speaker 2: While having stones thrown at us, while.
Speaker 1: Having yeah, that's just that's just an extra thing heaven.
Speaker 1: And how big were the stones that were thrown at you?
Speaker 2: Third there you can hear them. I got recordings that
Speaker 2: you can. They come through the foliage. I probably, I
Speaker 2: would say probably fifty size, you know, fifty cent piece sizes.
Speaker 2: I've had brought people up there. I like, again, I've
Speaker 2: had witnesses to all this. They we would we'd had
Speaker 2: to happen in Florida. Then two weeks after it happened
Speaker 2: in Florida in the Green Swamp, we came back up
Speaker 2: here to Connecticut and it happened two weeks later here
Speaker 2: the same phone manipulation radio frequency and stone throws. The
Speaker 2: phone thing is another thing that is crazy.
Speaker 1: Anyone in any of those groups, did they have any
Speaker 1: weird effects like swollen legs or sworn arms or anything
Speaker 1: like that.
Speaker 2: Not that I know. But I've had four detached retinas.
Speaker 1: Okay, well, wow, okay, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I've never had a traumatic injury to my head.
Speaker 1: That's pretty intense, dude. Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know why. I came back from hiking
Speaker 2: one day and my eye detached.
Speaker 1: Wow. I'll tell you something weird that happened in Oregon,
Speaker 1: just really quick. So it was out in this area
Speaker 1: in the will Lambat National Forest, and we were there
Speaker 1: after this festival, and we were sitting in nylon chairs
Speaker 1: in this like edge of a meadow that was very active,
Speaker 1: and there was a point where some weird happened. Weird
Speaker 1: stuff happened. At one point I wasn't able to move
Speaker 1: for five minutes. But I started to notice that I
Speaker 1: had these bite marks on my legs and kind of
Speaker 1: like probably really bad horsefly bites. But then like my
Speaker 1: legs started to swell up really bad, so it could
Speaker 1: have been a reaction. But the weird thing is I
Speaker 1: ended up having to go to the urgent care in Springfield,
Speaker 1: Oregon at the end of my trip, and the two
Speaker 1: doctors that were there they were like, we have no
Speaker 1: idea what happened to your legs. This is nuts. It's
Speaker 1: like nothing we've ever seen before. It looks like someone
Speaker 1: took a stick and just beat the crap out of
Speaker 1: your legs with it, and like something had really hit
Speaker 1: it hard and affected the inside of the legs and
Speaker 1: made them kind of like come up to the surface.
Speaker 1: And what they printed out they were like, they said
Speaker 1: a cellulitis. But one of the one of the possible
Speaker 1: things about cellulitis that was on the paper is they said, well,
Speaker 1: this can happen if there is a high radiation shot
Speaker 1: at you for a period of time. I was like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: and then you was kind of saying stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, you know, I don't know, man, this
Speaker 1: is weird stuff, right right.
Speaker 2: I was just going to say you had exposure to radiation.
Speaker 2: I was going to after you explained it to me,
Speaker 2: I'm like, you had radiation exposure.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I think they can reject it. I think they they
Speaker 2: just it's hard to prove it. I know, people think
Speaker 2: you're crazy for talking about and you know what, believe
Speaker 2: in sasquatch. The regular world thinks you're crazy. So if
Speaker 2: you're going to take it right, you might as well
Speaker 2: go where the evidence brings you. You know what, And
Speaker 2: that's what you got to. That's the truth. I can
Speaker 2: only tell people the truth of what's happened, and hopefully
Speaker 2: they are aware. But that to me sounds like you've
Speaker 2: got you've got a little little radiation burns.
Speaker 1: Weird stuff, man, it's weird stuff. Before we we head
Speaker 1: past this part, the are you able to recommend or
Speaker 1: or share like the particular device you were using, Like
Speaker 1: if you know the the make and model of how
Speaker 1: you were able to look for radio frequencies out in
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 2: Well, I would have to go get it as done
Speaker 2: as a trifield meter. And it does magnet magnet it
Speaker 2: does magnetism. It does we're getting crazy magnetism readings now
Speaker 2: too in certain areas. And it does, uh, it does magnetism,
Speaker 2: it does r F, and it does one other thing.
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what it does, but it's it. You
Speaker 2: get it on Amazon. It's like two hundred dollars and
Speaker 2: we ice trap it right to my backpack now and
Speaker 2: I we I take it out all the time when
Speaker 2: when something starts happening. Oh wow, we've had said it's
Speaker 2: triggered numerous times. It's numerous times.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I need to start looking more into that.
Speaker 2: I can send it to you. I can send you
Speaker 2: the link after I can.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, thank you appreciate that. So if people are
Speaker 1: into into the big Foot topic and they watched the
Speaker 1: shows and they're you know, familiar with the show Monster
Speaker 1: Quest back in the day and such a such a
Speaker 1: great series put out by Doug Hicheck. But you know,
Speaker 1: if you're into that, then you're really into Usually you're
Speaker 1: into the Snellgrove Lake episodes just because they're they're the
Speaker 1: top of the top, right, it's such such a cool experience.
Speaker 1: But you were actually able to go up to that
Speaker 1: cabin with with a group that Doug put together.
Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, yeah, we won two years in a row. Yeah,
Speaker 2: last year and the year before.
Speaker 1: Oh well, I didn't know it's two years in a row.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. Oh my goodness. I'm guessing that some of
Speaker 1: that you might not be able to talk about. Is
Speaker 1: there anything that you're able to share from those experiences
Speaker 1: up there?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah, I can talk a little bit about a
Speaker 2: little bit. So as you guys do well, dude and
Speaker 2: I do podcasting, and I do podcasting to meet people.
Speaker 2: And I would have never have met Doug if I
Speaker 2: didn't have a podcast. And me and Doug have become
Speaker 2: really great friends. I mean we talk all the time.
Speaker 2: We we're on the phone. I call him, he can
Speaker 2: call me, and he's a really, really great guy. And
Speaker 2: he put this thing together about going up to Snowgrove,
Speaker 2: and I mean, Doug's been going there for like thirty
Speaker 2: plus years. He went there before even was a bigfoot thing.
Speaker 2: And so we went up there. And let me tell you,
Speaker 2: when you talk remote and they drop you off by
Speaker 2: that plane and they tell you be careful because we
Speaker 2: might not be able to come back and get you.
Speaker 2: You're not getting out of there. You're not getting out
Speaker 2: of there anytime soon. You're not hiking out because we
Speaker 2: just don't have the supplies to do it. Or the
Speaker 2: you know, it's just it's it's so desolate and you're
Speaker 2: searching for noise, you're searching for light. It's just there's
Speaker 2: nothing there. And when you're sleeping at night and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden you get wrapped. The first night we
Speaker 2: were there, the first two years ago, something the rafters
Speaker 2: in the back of the Snowgirl cabin are fourteen foot high.
Speaker 2: Something took its hand and ran it across the roof
Speaker 2: rafters and hit the building. And that was the first
Speaker 2: night while we were there. Woke me up. I was
Speaker 2: on one bedroom, but the bedroom that that had all
Speaker 2: happened on was we were dougging at them and uh, we're
Speaker 2: staying in. We had a lot of stuff. We had
Speaker 2: a lot of recordings that that that week. It was
Speaker 2: a rainy week. It's a beautiful place, beautiful fishing. We Uh,
Speaker 2: I know, I really can't. I'm trying to think we
Speaker 2: can talk to you about the outhouse because we've talked
Speaker 2: about that. So we were there all week. We got
Speaker 2: a lot of a lot of stuff happened, and we
Speaker 2: got a lot of cool recordings, had stuff chucked at
Speaker 2: the cabin and walking on the back deck. That'll all
Speaker 2: come out. But the final day we're there, we're packed,
Speaker 2: we're packed up and we're ready to we're getting ready
Speaker 2: to go, and we're budd Online is with us and
Speaker 2: he gets up first and they left this they called
Speaker 2: it I Forgot Something Smorgasports surprise where they put a
Speaker 2: camera in a big pile of food and they left
Speaker 2: it out in the back of the cabin and they
Speaker 2: were hopefully going to catch it. So Bud got up
Speaker 2: and we went out and he grabbed the plate and
Speaker 2: got the camera and brought it back in. And on
Speaker 2: his way back in he noticed that there was something throwing.
Speaker 2: There was pine cones coming over the outhouse and he
Speaker 2: woke up at him, I believe. And Adam came out next,
Speaker 2: and uh he started to win and he's like, Chris,
Speaker 2: you got to get out here and check this out.
Speaker 2: So we all have cups of coffee and we're sitting
Speaker 2: on the back deck of snow Gold Cabin while there's
Speaker 2: pine cones being tossed at us over the outhouse, and
Speaker 2: we're do you laugh Because it was a beautiful morning
Speaker 2: the first the first day, the sun's out. We all
Speaker 2: have cups of coffee and we're sitting here and nurse
Speaker 2: pine cones being tossed at us over the outhouse cabin.
Speaker 2: So I said, well, I told Doug I had not. Doug,
Speaker 2: I said, Bud, give me the gold Pro. I'm going
Speaker 2: to go and see where you're coming from. So I
Speaker 2: took the gold Pro and I walked down It's like
Speaker 2: a thirty foot thirty foot deck walkway to get to
Speaker 2: the outhouse. And I'm going down there and I'm to
Speaker 2: get to the outhouse and all of a sudden, I
Speaker 2: get hit by a pine cone. So I turned around
Speaker 2: at that moment time when I head back to the deck,
Speaker 2: I'm like, nope, I'm not going into the forest to
Speaker 2: see what's throwing those pinecones at us. So that happened.
Speaker 2: And then when we're we are waiting for the plane.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you've heard about the thunder knock.
Speaker 2: Me and Butter are sitting up by the cabin and
Speaker 2: all our stuff is on the dock waiting for the
Speaker 2: plane to come, and Adam's down on the doctor. Three
Speaker 2: of us are there. Doug left because you had to
Speaker 2: go to a conference. You left a couple of days early.
Speaker 2: And we're sitting down there and we're just sitting there,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, we hear this knock
Speaker 2: that sounds like something took two thirty foot trees and
Speaker 2: swung them at each other. It was an explosion like
Speaker 2: it sounded like thunder. Was like, that's why I got it.
Speaker 2: It's name it. It went ooh like that. And me and
Speaker 2: Bud look at each other and we go we don't say,
Speaker 2: do you hear that? We both go to each other.
Speaker 2: Did you feel that? We had three waves of something
Speaker 2: hit us in the chest from that knock, And it
Speaker 2: like if you were to say you were in the
Speaker 2: ocean and you had three waves hit you in the chest. Boom,
Speaker 2: boom boom. That is exactly what happened. After that knock happened.
Speaker 2: We felt the repercussion of that three times to the chest.
Speaker 2: I have never ever heard anything. It was like a
Speaker 2: car crash, like ninety miles per hour running through the forest.
Speaker 2: But there was nothing moving. The sun was out, there
Speaker 2: was no wind, there was no trees moving, there was nothing.
Speaker 2: It was the craziest. Then Adam was down on the
Speaker 2: dock of the cabin on the lake and he heard
Speaker 2: something from across the lake respond to it another knock,
Speaker 2: but that thunder knock was incredible, But of course we
Speaker 2: were all packed up and we didn't have anything to
Speaker 2: record it, but we had three witnesses to it, and
Speaker 2: it was a crazy, crazy experience.
Speaker 1: That's incredible I have I've talked to hundreds of people.
Speaker 1: I've never heard anyone say you always hear that it
Speaker 1: hit you in the chest, but not multiple times in
Speaker 1: a wave that's very very unique in your you know,
Speaker 1: going up there multiple times, do you feel like that's
Speaker 1: a place that is still pretty active.
Speaker 2: Yep, Yep, it's it's it's I think it's it's hard.
Speaker 2: You gotta time it. You gotta time it right because
Speaker 2: it's so desolate. I mean, there's so much area up there.
Speaker 2: They could be wherever, you know, wherever we are. So
Speaker 2: we timed it for the berries. That's what Doug suggested,
Speaker 2: and that's what we did. So the first time we
Speaker 2: got we had a lot of big foot activity, but
Speaker 2: the second time we had some big foot activity, but
Speaker 2: we had more paranormal stuff go on. The second time
Speaker 2: up there, we we we we've come too familiar with
Speaker 2: a frequency that might be drawing these guys in, and
Speaker 2: they're using it. We know that they're using it because
Speaker 2: it's been picked up across America. It's forty herts, it's
Speaker 2: a hummingbird. It sounds like a hummingbird. Win. So if
Speaker 2: anybody's listening to your program and has recordings of a
Speaker 2: hummingbird in their habituation area, it possibly is a bigfoot. Now,
Speaker 2: David Ellis is the head of all this project. He
Speaker 2: takes all the recordings and we put them through all
Speaker 2: the analysis and we're getting the same frequencies ever everywhere.
Speaker 2: And I came up with it here because my wife
Speaker 2: was having experience with her hummingbird feeder. And there's a
Speaker 2: long story short. I did research in the hummingbirds and
Speaker 2: found out what was going on, and I said forty
Speaker 2: hurts and I went to Doug with it. He goes, well,
Speaker 2: you're not going to believe this, and he he called
Speaker 2: David Ellis right on the phone while we were on
Speaker 2: the phone, and he's like, you got to tell David
Speaker 2: your story. So I told him the story about how
Speaker 2: I thought the bigfoot we're using forty herts. He says,
Speaker 2: you're not going to believe this. But there's a guy
Speaker 2: with Tristan Yolton who recorded a bigfoot eating a jar
Speaker 2: of peanut butter, and while I was eating it, they
Speaker 2: called it the Bigfoot purr. He was actually purring or
Speaker 2: humming why he was eating the heating the peanut butter.
Speaker 2: He goes, guess what, Guess what the purr was? What hurts?
Speaker 2: Level I'm like, you gotta be kidding. It was forty herts.
Speaker 2: He's like, it was forty hurts. So we put it
Speaker 2: out all across America, and we've gotten like six seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven,
Speaker 2: twelve recordings back from other people now that they they
Speaker 2: said they've had to record it, and they're all forty hurts.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness.
Speaker 2: So this is something to pay attention to. Why you're
Speaker 2: in your areas if you hear a hummingbird sound. And
Speaker 2: when we were just down in Florida, No Lie, I
Speaker 2: brought a forty hertz tuning fork. This was last We
Speaker 2: just did a show on it, actually on my channel
Speaker 2: last night. I brought a forty if i'd use a
Speaker 2: forty hertz tuning fork. Now, I bring it in my
Speaker 2: backpack and I ran it rein it down in the
Speaker 2: green swamp at the fridge area that he has his
Speaker 2: habituation area, and I put it in my backpack and
Speaker 2: we packed out and we started leaving and Chris is going, hey, man,
Speaker 2: why are you playing with that thing again? I said,
Speaker 2: what thing? When am I playing with what thing? He says,
Speaker 2: that tuning fork? Why do you got it out again?
Speaker 2: I'm like, it said, still in my backpack, Chris. He goes, listen,
Speaker 2: we were getting it back something in the forest, and
Speaker 2: this green swamp was sending that I got my hair
Speaker 2: stating straight up right now. Something was sending that forty
Speaker 2: herds back at us.
Speaker 1: Oh no way now?
Speaker 2: Then oh wow, yeah. And then fifteen minutes later we
Speaker 2: were approached and growl.
Speaker 1: That dudes, okay, so let me make sure I got
Speaker 1: this right. So you had actually activated the tuning fork
Speaker 1: and it was giving it back to you. And then
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes later stuff started to hit off.
Speaker 2: Yep, yep. They came right up to us. It was
Speaker 2: it was ten fifteen feet away and growled at us.
Speaker 2: And then it did. I call it a compact bluff charge.
Speaker 2: It was like very short and very forceful, and we
Speaker 2: knew how big it was when he did it. He
Speaker 2: just like jumped at us and we're like and three
Speaker 2: miles into the green swamp, in Florida. We're like, dope,
Speaker 2: this is enough, this is telling us it is time
Speaker 2: to for us to go. But it hit us back
Speaker 2: with that that frequency. So for the people that don't
Speaker 2: think this frequency thing isn't something to be paying attention to,
Speaker 2: it's definitely needs to be paid attention to.
Speaker 1: Has this been attempted in other places in the US.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're testing it. I've worked here and it's
Speaker 2: worked here in Connecticut. I reined up with my team
Speaker 2: up at rock Thorough Alley and we had four of
Speaker 2: them come in and throw rocks at us. And something
Speaker 2: big came in that day, something real big, the biggest
Speaker 2: we've ever heard before up there. You can see that.
Speaker 2: You can see that day on my channel. It's all
Speaker 2: on my channel to see people can hear the rocks
Speaker 2: flying in and you can hear them the tuning fork
Speaker 2: that we used, and my witnesses to all of it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: everything I tell you, I have witnesses to this. I mean,
Speaker 2: I've even had the blackout chopper over my house because
Speaker 2: of the hummingbird stuff. That's a whole another story that
Speaker 2: will take a long long time to tell you that one.
Speaker 2: But that was a crazy, crazy three weeks. That the
Speaker 2: craziest three weeks of my entire life. And my wife
Speaker 2: witnessed at all. And she'll never go back in the forest.
Speaker 2: She hasn't been back in the forest in seven years.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, really that's why.
Speaker 2: Nope, Okay, I ruined it for her because she used
Speaker 2: to be she'd go hiking by herself. She was actually exercising,
Speaker 2: not she'd loved walking the paths. And she won't even
Speaker 2: go she won't even go in anymore.
Speaker 1: So one more, one more question about the tuning fork,
Speaker 1: just because it's so unique. So when I used to
Speaker 1: have I used to play guitar and I had it
Speaker 1: was just a handheld metal, just a regular metal tuning
Speaker 1: fork and you hit it once and it would make
Speaker 1: a sound. That's what we're talking about, not hooked up
Speaker 1: to a anything. Right when you're in the green swamp
Speaker 1: or Connecticut and you're doing this, you're just hitting a
Speaker 1: normal everyday tuning fork and it's coming for herts. That's hurt, dude.
Speaker 1: That is so wild.
Speaker 2: So we recorded it and we call blasted it one
Speaker 2: day at a snow grove and Doug's like, what are
Speaker 2: you doing? What are you doing? We're doing it turn.
Speaker 1: That off, that off.
Speaker 2: He knows what the right, he knows what the forty
Speaker 2: herds does. That night, we're sitting in the cabin and
Speaker 2: orbs are flying all over the lake. Orbs are flying
Speaker 2: all around the cabin. We're getting voices coming through the
Speaker 2: security cameras. Yeah, it was wild. I've never seen an
Speaker 2: ORB before until that night. We're seeing white lights on
Speaker 2: snow grolled lake. Oh yeah, man, my hair is standing
Speaker 2: the straight up again right now. I got goosebumps like
Speaker 2: none other.
Speaker 1: And this only this only started happening after you tried
Speaker 1: the forty Hurts tuning fork thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, we only did it once one night and
Speaker 2: we never did it again.
Speaker 1: You know, I wonder this is where I wish I
Speaker 1: knew more stuff than Bigfoot, because I really focus it
Speaker 1: on Bigfoot. But you know how like with the whole
Speaker 1: UAP thing, they're saying that there's some certain like dog
Speaker 1: whistle thing where they're able to bring them down. Have
Speaker 1: you heard that yet?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I've heard that.
Speaker 1: I wonder if it's related in somewhere, or maybe it's
Speaker 1: not a it's probably different, but I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: someone can put it in the comments if they know
Speaker 1: specifics about how that works. But it's wild, dude, that's
Speaker 1: that's wild. Uh yeah, I would maybe even throw it
Speaker 1: for entertainment purposes only, and be careful if you if
Speaker 1: you do try that as well. Man, that's that's crazy.
Speaker 1: I cannot wait.
Speaker 2: Be careful because it's not tested yet. We don't know
Speaker 2: why they what they do, or if they're going to
Speaker 2: get mad about it, or if they're I don't think
Speaker 2: they like coming in. I think you know Kuombo Baker right.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've talked to Kumbo.
Speaker 2: So so Koombo has done the frequency thing. He's a
Speaker 2: believer in the frequency thing. He uses what it was
Speaker 2: the thing that he shows Horn the show far here
Speaker 2: you go the show far. He thinks that the frequency
Speaker 2: of that level is the young ones. Aren't you able
Speaker 2: to do infrasound yet? So when they're because forty hrtz
Speaker 2: is almost there, another twenty hurts in your infrasound, so
Speaker 2: you can you know, you you can't only hear a
Speaker 2: hummingbird when it's next to your ears, waiting buzzing roun.
Speaker 1: I miss something, really, I think I miss something. So
Speaker 1: you're saying that forty hurts is very close to the infrasound.
Speaker 2: Yes, twenty hurts and lower is infrasound.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay.
Speaker 2: So forty hurts is very very low like a hummingbird.
Speaker 2: You don't hear hummingbirds fine on your yard. You hear
Speaker 2: them when they're right next to your ear. So it's
Speaker 2: a very low vibration. So for anything to pick that
Speaker 2: up far away and come in is crazy. Dude.
Speaker 1: This is this is This is why I I I
Speaker 1: try to catch your your shows when I can, because
Speaker 1: the stuff that you put out is really really cool stuff.
Speaker 1: And it's no surprise that you're you're hanging out with
Speaker 1: Doug and you're involved with with stuff up there in
Speaker 1: Snellgrove because you are always making really cool connections and
Speaker 1: how can people because you just Swiss shows, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just rebranded my show because I'm going to
Speaker 2: go and investigate it on and to start doing haunted hotels.
Speaker 2: And I just think it's all linked and I think
Speaker 2: the frequency things are linked to it all, and I
Speaker 2: just that's so I call it Real American monsters is
Speaker 2: what I'm calling the new you know, I know, I
Speaker 2: know Sasquatch is really, like I said, I've seen them,
Speaker 2: I've interacted with them. I've done it and it's time
Speaker 2: to try and link other stuff. I'm not giving up
Speaker 2: on Sasquatch. I'm going, like I said, I'll be up
Speaker 2: at Rock Throw Alley again and we're going back to
Speaker 2: Snowgrove next year and stuff like that, so that the
Speaker 2: Sasquatch thing isn't done. And I got a lot of
Speaker 2: friends that still do Sasquatch. And we were actually invited
Speaker 2: to go to the reservation in New Mexico next year
Speaker 2: and camp out on the res with one of the
Speaker 2: tribal elders, and I'm pretty excited about that. And there's
Speaker 2: gonna be pictographs on the rocks there, and he says
Speaker 2: he's seeing the UFOs and the big Foot come in
Speaker 2: and out there, and I'm really looking forward to that
Speaker 2: one too.
Speaker 1: That is that's awesome.
Speaker 2: I love to travel. I mean, I love to meet
Speaker 2: new people and and you learn a lot. You learn
Speaker 2: a lot from everybody. Again, I can't give all of
Speaker 2: the credit for this because I'm not the one that
Speaker 2: comes up with all this. It's a team effort and uh,
Speaker 2: we're all learning from each other and so step by
Speaker 2: step where we're doing there's something. There's something with this
Speaker 2: frequency thing, and so we'll continue looking at it.
Speaker 1: That's great. I hope maybe even something with that might
Speaker 1: even I would I would hope maybe end up in
Speaker 1: some future doc from Doug. But crossing crossing our fingers,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be I am psyched for that to come
Speaker 1: out eventually. Legend meat science too, that would be good,
Speaker 1: good stuff. But in our time that we have left today,
Speaker 1: And thank you so much for spending some time with us.
Speaker 1: But you had mentioned that you think that there's a
Speaker 1: hypothesis you have that there might be a connection between
Speaker 1: Bigfoot in dog Man.
Speaker 2: Well, and I think, you know, I've talked to a
Speaker 2: lot of people, and you know, I'm starting to learn
Speaker 2: a little bit about the dog Man. I just had
Speaker 2: I just had Jody Cook on the show the other
Speaker 2: the other night, and I learned something from it. Had
Speaker 2: Vic on the show two weeks ago and learned some
Speaker 2: stuff from him. So I'm a new beat to the Dogmen.
Speaker 2: But they both they both said, you know, you can't
Speaker 2: have one without the other. I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: what they meant by that. So but I think it's
Speaker 2: I think I think the dogmen do the same thing.
Speaker 2: I think they come and go. I mean, because if
Speaker 2: you had an eight foot dog, you know, walking on
Speaker 2: two legs, you know, and people would see him more
Speaker 2: often if they were here all the time, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. I just think these I just think
Speaker 2: these creatures are interdimensional. Lot that and I can't prove it,
Speaker 2: and people might again think that you're crazy for it.
Speaker 2: But I think they know how to use doorways. If
Speaker 2: there's doorways. I'm looking at all of what they're talking
Speaker 2: about in the Grand Canyon right now. There's a portal
Speaker 2: in the Grand Canyon that's being protected by the government
Speaker 2: that they're not letting people in. Really. Yeah, yeah, there's
Speaker 2: a there's a big thing to do about that. There
Speaker 2: was a guy on h on YouTube and his name
Speaker 2: was the Desert Drifter I believe or and he was
Speaker 2: a guy that was hiking all them all the old
Speaker 2: back in New Mexico and the Grand Canyon. His favorite
Speaker 2: place to hike was in the Grand Canyon. He discovered
Speaker 2: something in the like the Egyptians left in there. I
Speaker 2: think his name was Desert Drifter. But he ended up
Speaker 2: getting a fatal car crash after he started discovering all
Speaker 2: this stuff. And it kind of makes you wonder. But
Speaker 2: but yeah, they're they're saying that there's a portal in
Speaker 2: the Grand Canyon that's being protected by the government. But
Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, that's all conspiracy theory. There again,
Speaker 2: I'm new to all that, all that stuff. But the
Speaker 2: document and that the Bigfoot I think come from the
Speaker 2: same places, and I just think that their worlds are
Speaker 2: are they don't have the food. I think they come
Speaker 2: here to hunt and they just really believe that. But
Speaker 2: there's aliens out there too, and they're walking on us.
Speaker 2: The government telling us that. Now Congress is telling us
Speaker 2: that they're walking on us, and you know that's kind
Speaker 2: of freaky.
Speaker 1: It is. Well, that's the thing because everyone and we're
Speaker 1: going to be we'll be careful what you say, but
Speaker 1: at least I will. I think people right now are
Speaker 1: so shell shocked because of what has happened in the
Speaker 1: last few year that the government could say anything and
Speaker 1: most of the population will be like, yeah, I don't care,
Speaker 1: like I don't even know what's happening anymore. Like they're
Speaker 1: literally saying, yes, there's the UFOs and you UAPs and
Speaker 1: aliens and there's different kinds and here's all the info
Speaker 1: about them, and it's all out there, you're right, and
Speaker 1: people just either don't care or they don't even realize
Speaker 1: what's being said.
Speaker 2: So right. They even admitted that there's interdimensional travel. They
Speaker 2: were asked, can humans make the journey? They're like, no,
Speaker 2: we are not built for it. I mean, it's just
Speaker 2: the information that they're putting out that people just I
Speaker 2: just don't get it. I just I don't get it.
Speaker 1: But oh, well, would you ever want to go on
Speaker 1: a expedition that is solely focused on going after dog Man?
Speaker 2: Yes? Yes, I was actually talking to uh to Jody
Speaker 2: about that, actually going to lbl Okay, Oh yeah, yeah
Speaker 2: for sure. I don't know if I want to come
Speaker 2: face to face with one, but I would love to
Speaker 2: hear their howls or whatever they do. And Al Santa Rica,
Speaker 2: he knows where there's a den up in New York,
Speaker 2: I guess of some sort.
Speaker 1: And als Oh yeah that stuff. Yeah, he's I've talked
Speaker 1: to him about that, that place in New York and
Speaker 1: some weird, weird stuff going on wherever. That was, no
Speaker 1: doubt about it.
Speaker 2: I went there. I went there and had some crazy
Speaker 2: stuff at ow to the sacred site. Oh yeah, dude,
Speaker 2: I had an attachment. I was like frozen cold, and
Speaker 2: the compass was laid at my feet and was spinning,
Speaker 2: and every time he had the dowsing rids out, he
Speaker 2: would walk away from me, and the dowsing rds kept
Speaker 2: on pointing back to me and pointing back to me
Speaker 2: and pointing back to me. And the clouds that came.
Speaker 2: And that night where like remember the Pull the Geist movie,
Speaker 2: the pool scened. It was it was like the craziest night,
Speaker 2: one of the craziest nights. I mean just just keeps
Speaker 2: on going and going and going. And then on our
Speaker 2: way out where we had stones thrown at us. But
Speaker 2: I had an attachment at that place and it was
Speaker 2: why it was he had he had no he had
Speaker 2: a T shirt on I guess like a vest, and
Speaker 2: I was in winter clothes and I put on a
Speaker 2: pair of gloves. I mean something had me.
Speaker 1: Oh that's how I.
Speaker 2: Went to this. Yeah, I went to the Sacred site
Speaker 2: and that was it was a crazy night. I was
Speaker 2: supposed to stay at ELSA and then I went home.
Speaker 2: I drove all the way back to Connecticut. Man. Wow,
Speaker 2: so yeah, I've had some crazy stuff go on, for sure.
Speaker 1: Do you do you have a place where you it's
Speaker 1: kind of like your your bucket place that you would
Speaker 1: love to go to see if you could have some
Speaker 1: Bigfoot interactions or have you been able to hit everywhere
Speaker 1: that you've wanted to go so far.
Speaker 2: I would really love to go to this year a
Speaker 2: sound site, but that's not our site to go to.
Speaker 2: But uh, bucket list, no, And I mean I just
Speaker 2: want to go and you know, uh, you know, try
Speaker 2: to see all I can and experience, you know, experience
Speaker 2: all I can. I love the interactions, but no, I
Speaker 2: snaw Grove was probably my bucket list and I made
Speaker 2: it there, and uh, we're going to go back again
Speaker 2: next year, and like I said, we'll see what happens.
Speaker 2: The walleye every night up there is such a beautiful place.
Speaker 2: You fish for your fish all day and but you
Speaker 2: gotta be well. Last time we went up there, they
Speaker 2: had another break in two weeks prior they went. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they went in, they went in through the same door.
Speaker 2: And uh, even the even the guys that were you know,
Speaker 2: a loaded the planes. You know, we're talking about it
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh geez, you know snow Grove. We're
Speaker 2: always up at snow Grove. Fixing stuff always up there,
Speaker 2: and then once and once they finally fixed the cabin.
Speaker 2: Two weeks later, there was a treat that was fell
Speaker 2: on or pushed or whatever onto the cabin itself.
Speaker 1: Oh no way, whoa.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So it's very it's very uneasy up there because
Speaker 2: you have nowhere to go. You know, we have boats
Speaker 2: and you got to try to make it out to
Speaker 2: the boat. If something bad happens, and you know they're
Speaker 2: in there, you know they come in because they've been
Speaker 2: in there twice that we know of. So but yeah, no,
Speaker 2: we we I had uh we had Ron on the
Speaker 2: on the show one time and we had you know,
Speaker 2: we talked to him after the show. He said, you know,
Speaker 2: we would, you know, ask him if we could go,
Speaker 2: you know, we would take them up there. We'd pay
Speaker 2: for everything to get to and he said it wasn't
Speaker 2: his site, it was his buddy's site. And we agreed
Speaker 2: with him. He said, yeah, we understand, we understand. You
Speaker 2: always got to ask permission, and uh so that's that's where
Speaker 2: we left it.
Speaker 1: So ask permission to the people that discovered the site.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's there, that's their area. Yes, yes, just like
Speaker 2: just like snow Girl that's Doug's place. So you know,
Speaker 2: we talked to Doug about going up there and he
Speaker 2: wanted to go, so he went up Son and his
Speaker 2: best buddy Joey. He's such a great guy too that
Speaker 2: he's Doug's right hand man, Joe and he's just he was.
Speaker 2: It was just a great trip, and you know we
Speaker 2: built Yeah, we built a camaradi between everybody that was there.
Speaker 2: Everybody went back the second year that was there the
Speaker 2: first year, same group.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: But next we were we're one, but we're one guy short.
Speaker 2: We're going on going up there with five and there's
Speaker 2: room for six.
Speaker 1: So wild stuff, man, wow, wild wild stuff. You never know,
Speaker 1: right man, dude, Chris, thank you so much for coming
Speaker 1: on the show. I mean, I learned a lot more
Speaker 1: than I was expecting to. I've got some stuff to
Speaker 1: look into after this one. But before you head out,
Speaker 1: do you mind you know, sharing again how people can
Speaker 1: can keep up to date with your your show and
Speaker 1: what you've got going on and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2: All right, So you guys can all find me on
Speaker 2: the Untold Radio Network that's Doug's Doug's channel on Tuesday
Speaker 2: nights at eight pm Eastern with the podcast Real American Monsters,
Speaker 2: and I am just starting back up on my channel
Speaker 2: on YouTube. It's so called discover Sasquatch because it's to
Speaker 2: change your not your name and everything, or your your
Speaker 2: RL or whatever they call it. It's such a hassle
Speaker 2: and it takes so long, but it's under discover Sasquatch,
Speaker 2: but the name of the the name you'll see as
Speaker 2: Real American Monsters. And we're gonna start putting mini docs out,
Speaker 2: like I told the story about Loward, my first, my
Speaker 2: first interaction, that's gonna be episode one of the mini docs.
Speaker 2: It's almost done. I'm filming it, editing everything at myself
Speaker 2: and uh, that's gonna be out soon. We're gonna start
Speaker 2: doing do it yourself videos and we're gonna start putting
Speaker 2: out the little campouts that we're gonna do. And then
Speaker 2: I'm headed up to New York to the Shanley with
Speaker 2: Alfred and we're gonna do a the Haunted Hotel investigation
Speaker 2: and that'll be episode two of Lord. So you can
Speaker 2: go over there and please sub I'm only I need
Speaker 2: thirty more subs to be four thousand and so, and
Speaker 2: that's basically where I'm at. And if you guys got
Speaker 2: if you know anything about the forty hurts and you
Speaker 2: got humming bird recordings or you got that buzz recorded
Speaker 2: in your habituation, you can email me at Real Americanmoasters
Speaker 2: at gmail dot com and we'll send it off to
Speaker 2: David and David will take care of everything and we'll
Speaker 2: let you know. And I've gotten like six people that
Speaker 2: gotten sent me recordings and gone out and they've all
Speaker 2: come back forty hurts and the humming sound in their
Speaker 2: Bigfoot areas. So it's a thing. It's something going on,
Speaker 2: and there's interest in that. There's other people that are
Speaker 2: very interested in it.
Speaker 1: Oh man, that's really exciting stuff. It'll be exciting to
Speaker 1: see where that that goes, the whole forty hurts saying.
Speaker 1: But Chris, thank you so much for coming on the show.
Speaker 1: It's been it's been real fun talking to you tonight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, thank you Jeremiah for having me.
Speaker 1: Just want to take a minute to say thank you
Speaker 1: for listening to this episode of the Big for Society podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris's story is the kind that shakes you, not just
Speaker 1: because of the growls in the forest or the pine
Speaker 1: cones thrown in the dark, but because something followed him
Speaker 1: home and it didn't stop at his door. So huge
Speaker 1: thanks to Chris for sharing a decade of encounters and
Speaker 1: for reminding us how deep and strange this rabbit hole goes.
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