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Speaker 1: Hi everyone, This is Christina and Carmen and this is

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Speaker 1: another episode of a Spooky Tales, a podcast for all

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Speaker 1: things spooky, paranormal, scary, and true crime. Sometimes not all

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Speaker 1: the time, sometimes true crime. Sometimes yeahs no maservices, there

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Speaker 1: was Sando. Today, Carmen has some stories about Elchado and

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Speaker 1: I ove already shared the legend of Ilchadro, but that

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Speaker 1: was just the legend. Now we have sightings, people that

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Speaker 1: saw him, actually saw him. Yeah. And then I have

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Speaker 1: a very depressing topic. It was requested though it was

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Speaker 1: on my list of things to do when I was

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Speaker 1: emotionally ready, and then I was like, I'm never going

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Speaker 1: to be emotionally ready. So here we are. I will

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Speaker 1: be covering the twenty nineteen El Paso shooting. I can't

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Speaker 1: believe that was twenty nineteen. That feels like so long ago.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it was. No, it feels like

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Speaker 1: so long ago. But at the same time that ago, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I get that. Yeah. And then for those that, like

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Speaker 1: you know, hate political commentary, it is literally impossible to

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Speaker 1: mention this case and not bring up politics because of

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Speaker 1: what it inspired the person that did this horrible thing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the reality is that everything is political. Every

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Speaker 1: single one of our choices, whether we realize it or not,

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Speaker 1: is political. So it is what it is. Yeah, it is,

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Speaker 1: and so it's going to happen when we're discussing this case.

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Speaker 1: And also I am gonna cry. Okay, yeah, yeah. And

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Speaker 1: then before all that, we have a listener story. If

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Speaker 1: you have a story that you want to send into

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Speaker 1: the podcast, you can email spookyitos at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: You can DM us on any of the socials discord.

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Speaker 1: That's another one. You can call the Spooky hotline. You

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Speaker 1: know what, next time I'm going to grabble one from

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Speaker 1: the Spooky hot line. Yeah, next time, not today, it's

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Speaker 1: too late, right, there's a few in there, Yes, so

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Speaker 1: you can call that number. It's in the show notes.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of ways to get us these stories,

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Speaker 1: and we will read every single one of them. We

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Speaker 1: love receiving them. And okay, I think we're ready. So

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Speaker 1: this listener story comes from Teresa. It was the end

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Speaker 1: of the school year and the sixth grade classes go

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Speaker 1: on a camping trip for a weekend. I didn't go,

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Speaker 1: and neither did three of my classmates. We instead got

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Speaker 1: to spend the friday in the fifth grade class with

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Speaker 1: minimal supervision. We were just sitting in the back doing

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Speaker 1: whatever my friend will call her. Chrissy suggested we make

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Speaker 1: our own spirit board and attempt to conjure up a

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Speaker 1: spirit in class. Okay, yeah, but to be fair with

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Speaker 1: the last day, you know what I mean, don't care care,

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Speaker 1: She says. She played with a makeshift Wuiji board with

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Speaker 1: her siblings and they spoke allegedly to Georgia Washington, not

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Speaker 1: George Washington. I thought that was silly, but I was

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Speaker 1: okay with trying to talk to a ghost. Chrissy gave

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Speaker 1: She told Pam she would be the one to write

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Speaker 1: and that Jim and I were to have a finger

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Speaker 1: on the makeshift plan sheet, which ended up being a quarter,

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Speaker 1: and she would be conducting the stands. Chrissy scribbled a

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Speaker 1: mixshift spirit board on a notebook paper. Following Chrissy's instructions,

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Speaker 1: Jim and I put a finger on the quarter, moved

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Speaker 1: maybe because our plan sheet was a quarter and geomagnetic fields,

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Speaker 1: got no response. Only Christy was disappointed with that. Then

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Speaker 1: she told us to ask for a spirit by name. Pam.

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Speaker 1: Jim and myself couldn't think of any dead people we

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Speaker 1: what is it New Girl where she's no bones? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: there's an episode of Bones where Zoe Deschanel comes on

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Speaker 1: and she's a cousin of Bones and in the episode,

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Speaker 1: people keep saying how they look like and they must

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Speaker 1: be sisters and they're like, no, we're just like very

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Speaker 1: distant cousins. Oh my, Zoe Dechanelle's character is obsessed with

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Franklin, really, and that's what this has given me,

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Speaker 1: that Zoey Deschanel was obsessed with Benjamin Franklin in the episode. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Christy suggested George Washington, and so we tried again and

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Speaker 1: asked if George Washington was there. The quarter moved to know.

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Speaker 1: Pam didn't want to continue to find out who or

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Speaker 1: I feel you, I feel you. That would be me too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jim and I said goodbye, and Chrissy threw away our

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Speaker 1: another story from the sixth grade, but I have to

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Speaker 1: type it out on my notes. People sharing well yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I will be waiting for your other story from the

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Speaker 1: sixth grade. We will be. I wonder who was there

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Speaker 1: if it wasn't George Washington. Well, they didn't stick around

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Speaker 1: And I support that. I do. You know, sometimes you

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Speaker 1: horror movies, and stop while you're ahead, as your fifth

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Speaker 1: grade teacher would often tell you, because you were annoying, Yes,

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Speaker 1: and I was. And I don't blame her now. Back then,

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Speaker 1: I did, I think you get it? Yeah, I get

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Speaker 1: it now. I was. Yeah, I was the worst. I

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Speaker 1: do want to say, do you remember our sixth grade? No,

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Speaker 1: it was in sixth grade? Well we did go camping

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Speaker 1: sixth grade. No, fifth grade we went when we were

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Speaker 1: tent again in eighth grade at Lighthouse and two camping trips,

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Speaker 1: but obviously I didn't see ada, but people were saying

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Speaker 1: better remember specifics to you. No, probably that there was

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Speaker 1: And the other one we were in Kevin's. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: poor girl, No, don't get and I took it through

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Speaker 1: Back then they really kicked in, They really did, so

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't recommend it. No, you know, it feels kind

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Speaker 1: of mean. You did what you could with the information

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Speaker 1: you had. Back then, you didn't know it wasn't okay

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Speaker 1: to throw water at people. Okay, so let's move on

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Speaker 1: with that dumb ass ship being said. Well, let's take

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Speaker 1: a quick outbreak here. I were back, okay, so onto

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Speaker 1: some chattel. I feel like it said that not double

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Speaker 1: it was right, although they do. Yeah, they make fun

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Speaker 1: of Carmen because sometimes she says battles and so little.

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Speaker 1: so everything was gott instead of cattro. And yeah, it

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Speaker 1: it now, Yes, the concord remains anyway. So yeah, like

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Speaker 1: Christina said, we did share the legend of Enchado Negro before,

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Speaker 1: but he wanted more and more and more, just like that,

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Speaker 1: exactly exactly, so you know, he got tired of being

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Speaker 1: No that's not an option. That wasn't an option for him. No, no,

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Speaker 1: Who cares about that? So he agreed, and you know,

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Speaker 1: But the devil, being the devil, annoying everything, you know,

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Speaker 1: So the Devil's sense what was going on within Chattle's

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Speaker 1: right right, the chatte agreed and that's the story. Okay,

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Speaker 1: But apparently no one has agreed because he's still out

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Speaker 1: here trying to collect. But what if it's someone else

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Speaker 1: in his place, Like he's still dressed the same in everything,

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Speaker 1: but it's not the original chattle with someone else. Oh

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Speaker 1: you see, I thought it was the original chattle this

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like that guy. See I

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Speaker 1: in one of the stories they do accept the money. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: So sightings, yeah tell us. One reported sighting comes out

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Speaker 1: the Mexican TV show Mexico and Lasse. According to the show,

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Speaker 1: locals in the area believe that Chatto Negro appears by

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Speaker 1: the Bidul tree in town every Friday at midnight. One

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Speaker 1: and Chado offered to give the man money, and no

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Speaker 1: we're back. Before we get to my depressent case, I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to point out that I'm still very tired

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Speaker 1: from Denver. He's still not recovered. I finally went for

438
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Speaker 1: a run. Oh good. Okay, And well, let me just

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Speaker 1: say I didn't go to work today because I don't,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't feel like I don't need to

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Speaker 1: be there, Not on my anniversary. That's no such a day.

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Speaker 1: Happy anniversary. Thank you. Of course we did have therapy today,

443
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Speaker 1: which is cool. When we made the appointment, the therapist

444
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Speaker 1: was like, wow, therapy on your anniversary. We're like, yeah,

445
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Speaker 1: that's commitment, that's what she said, oh my god, well yeah,

446
00:25:44,559 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: she was right, she was. And then we went to

447
00:25:46,519 --> 00:25:51,279
Speaker 1: eat at this delicious, delicious place that actually I want

448
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Speaker 1: y'all to come to go to for us to go

449
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Speaker 1: when you us me. What's called ol Bistro. Okay, amazing,

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Speaker 1: pretty bysick name. So I'm surprised that good delicious Cokain,

451
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Speaker 1: that's good. What kind of food is it's is cute.

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00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 1: It's like a Mexican and regular really yeah okay, oh

453
00:26:08,079 --> 00:26:10,799
Speaker 1: like a combo, like an American Yeah, like a Mexican

454
00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,920
Speaker 1: American combo. Yes, yeah, that's cool. Okay, okay, yeah, we'll

455
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Speaker 1: definitely go there. And we went there at your therapy

456
00:26:17,279 --> 00:26:19,559
Speaker 1: and it's like impossible to go on Saturdays, which is

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Speaker 1: why I've only gone when I take days off during

458
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Speaker 1: the week and it was not packed. Then no, that's good,

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00:26:27,519 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: and I'm a little more refresh point being I'm a

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Speaker 1: little more refreshed. Still a little tired, though, Okay, yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: I send an alarm. Okay, I've been going to better

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Speaker 1: like a eight thirty or nine since we've been back

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Speaker 1: from our trip, and I sent an alarm every day

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Speaker 1: since I'm going to sleep so early, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: I can wake up at like six six thirty. That's

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Speaker 1: enough sleep. It's like eight and a half hours I've

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Speaker 1: been the first two days. I think I woke up

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Speaker 1: around nine, and somehow my children are slept in two.

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Speaker 1: Oh perfect. I don't know what was meant to be. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: today I'm like, all right, I'm going to wake up

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Speaker 1: at six thirty no matter what, I'm going to go

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Speaker 1: to the gym. Then I think I got a brown

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Speaker 1: seven thirty. I did not go to the gym. I

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Speaker 1: put on my like sweater. That means I'm not leaving

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Speaker 1: the house. It's this sweater. This is my like okay,

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00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,039
Speaker 1: and I am recording with it. Yeah, this is my

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be. I have been working, okay, tomorrow's my

478
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,279
Speaker 1: actual like shifting my day job. Yeah, not looking forward

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00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: to it, but but yeah, I'm still dying. I hope

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Speaker 1: to be back to normal next week. I hope that

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Speaker 1: you are. Yeah. And because I'm already feeling like shit,

482
00:27:27,599 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I might as well talk about this

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Speaker 1: very depressing case, right. Yeah. Also because it was requested,

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Speaker 1: so let's get started, Okay, let's get into it. On

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Speaker 1: August third, twenty nineteen, a white man entered a busy

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Speaker 1: Walmart in at Baso, Texas, and opened fire. To this day,

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Speaker 1: it is described as the Delias attack on Latinos Latinas

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Speaker 1: in modern America. We're covering the El Paso Walmart shooting.

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Speaker 1: Like I said, it was requested by a lot of

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Speaker 1: people after we did the Post club shooting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's a crime that specifically, delibly targeted Mexicans. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was this person's goal. I mean it was a hate crime. Yeah. Yeah,

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00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 1: I remember watching the news when it all went down.

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00:28:09,599 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: It was just yeah, it was such a dark, dark time. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, like I said, it's a heavy case. So

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Speaker 1: you know, listening with caution or don't listen skip this part.

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Speaker 1: You know, we've already covered the spooky part, so you

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Speaker 1: can come back to the end. So I'll put time stamps.

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Speaker 1: There are always a little thrown off because of ads,

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Speaker 1: but I'll do my best. So as many of you

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Speaker 1: probably already know, Paso is alongside the US Mexico border.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty much connected to see the Aguadis Like you

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Speaker 1: can take a bridge and they're like two miles away

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00:28:39,599 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: from each other. It's completely normal for people to go

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00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: back and forth from both cities every day for different things, work, shopping, eating, school,

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Speaker 1: a bunch of different reasons. Malpaso also happens to be

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Speaker 1: eighty one percent Latino Hispanic from the statistic I found

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Speaker 1: from like twenty twenty two or something like that. And again,

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Speaker 1: super normal for people to go back and forth between

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Speaker 1: the two cities. So because it was, you know, August,

511
00:29:04,799 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 1: it was almost back to school season, the sales were

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00:29:08,279 --> 00:29:11,519
Speaker 1: probably going on. The walmart on seven to one zero

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Speaker 1: one Gateway West Boulevard in Alpasso was extremely busy. It's

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Speaker 1: estimated that there was like three thousand people inside, and

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00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,799
Speaker 1: it's also a shopping center. I never think about how

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Speaker 1: many people at once fit inside in a grocery store

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00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 1: or department store like that. Right, some of these walmarts

518
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: were gigantics. So yeah, So at ten thirty seven am,

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00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: the gunman walked to the back of his car. He

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00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,759
Speaker 1: pulled out a semi automatic rifle from his trunk and

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00:29:39,839 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: opened fire in the parking lot. He killed a woman

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Speaker 1: who was pushing a shopping cart and then fired at others.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of people know, but you know,

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00:29:47,119 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: usually people that are fundraising for different things will set

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Speaker 1: up outside of these shopping centers to sell things, so

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Speaker 1: there was a group of kids and parents fundraising for

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Speaker 1: the Elpaso Fusion Girls soccer team outside. The gunman fired

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Speaker 1: at them. Three people died from in this instance, and

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00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: six people were injured in the parking lot. The Walmart

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Speaker 1: store manager saw the gunman in the parking lot and

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Speaker 1: ran inside and called Code Brown. This means that there

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00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: was an active shooter on site. Employees began to help

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Speaker 1: customers escape or hide. Many hit under tables or tried

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Speaker 1: to flee to the nearby stores like the nearby Sam's Club,

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Speaker 1: or they hid in shipping containers behind the Walmart. At

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Speaker 1: ten thirty nine am, the gunman entered the store through

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Speaker 1: the west side. As he walked in, he killed an

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00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,359
Speaker 1: elderly man who was trying to escape. He fired into

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Speaker 1: the checkout area, killing several more. Then he walked into

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Speaker 1: the first convenience bank that was inside the store, where

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Speaker 1: he fired more people. The gunman walked through the store,

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00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,279
Speaker 1: leaving a path of injured and dead. He walked out

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00:30:46,279 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 1: of the wal Mart at ten forty two am. The

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00:30:49,039 --> 00:30:52,519
Speaker 1: gunman then walked to the parking lot, fire more rounds

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00:30:52,759 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 1: on the way to his car. A man and his wife. Well,

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00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,079
Speaker 1: a man died and his wife was injured in this

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00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,559
Speaker 1: instance of him, you know, shooting in the parking lot.

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00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,279
Speaker 1: Then the gunman got into his car. Emergency services arrived

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00:31:04,359 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: pretty fast within the first six minutes of the nine

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Speaker 1: to one one call. The first nine one one call,

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00:31:10,279 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: the El Paso Police Department, Texas Rangers, FBI, and paramedics

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00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: were all unseen. Somehow the gunman was able to drive away,

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00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,559
Speaker 1: but he didn't get very far. I'm not sure how

554
00:31:20,599 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: far this intersection Sunmount and Viscount are from the walmart,

555
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,519
Speaker 1: but that's where he stopped at the left turn lane

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00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:30,279
Speaker 1: and he exited his vehicle and he just went up

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00:31:30,319 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 1: to a Texas ranger and said he was the shooter,

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00:31:33,319 --> 00:31:37,799
Speaker 1: and he was immediately apprehended arrested. In total, there were

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00:31:37,839 --> 00:31:41,559
Speaker 1: twenty three dead and twenty six injured, majority Mexican or

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Speaker 1: Mexican American. And again I'm not going to say the

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00:31:44,519 --> 00:31:46,359
Speaker 1: gunman's name, like fuck him.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,079
Speaker 1: The twenty three that died that day, they were Jordan

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Speaker 1: and Andre Anchrodo, twenty five and twenty four. So young, yeah,

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00:31:55,599 --> 00:31:58,359
Speaker 1: so young. They were going back to school, shopping for

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Speaker 1: their five year old daughter. She was not with them,

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00:32:00,839 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: but they had their two month old baby, boy, Paul,

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00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:08,119
Speaker 1: and he was with them. The only reason the baby

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Speaker 1: lived is because Jordan shielded the baby. Then Andre shielded

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00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,839
Speaker 1: both of them, and they had fallen on top of

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00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: the baby and an unknown person. It was unknown for

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00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,599
Speaker 1: a like a week or two. He went in as

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00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: the gunshots were still going on and he got the

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Speaker 1: baby from underneath them. That is why the baby lived.

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00:32:32,119 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 1: And then this man went back in and was still

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00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: treating people. Wow. So Andre had recently started a business

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00:32:40,279 --> 00:32:44,279
Speaker 1: of his own, like a concrete type business, and the

578
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,119
Speaker 1: pair had just celebrated their first wedding anniversary. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: a friend told People, and all this is from People magazine.

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00:32:50,759 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 1: They did like a whole article just with everyone's statements,

581
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,799
Speaker 1: and like, well, I'm just gonna relose. That's perfect. So

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Speaker 1: a friend told People magazine that they were so kind

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Speaker 1: and you could tell they truly loved each other. And

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Speaker 1: I just, I don't know, I feel so sad for

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00:33:05,119 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: obviously the whole family and friends, but their children. It's

586
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,519
Speaker 1: just it's wild that you can just be out here

587
00:33:10,559 --> 00:33:14,119
Speaker 1: doing the thing that you do and then this happens.

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00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:18,160
Speaker 1: David Johnson, sixty three, died trying to shield his wife

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Speaker 1: and nine year old granddaughter from the gunfire. His niece

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Speaker 1: Mariamada said about him that he was a loving father, husband, uncle,

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Speaker 1: and grandpa. When he was found, he was surrounded by

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00:33:27,079 --> 00:33:29,359
Speaker 1: three gun shows and it could have been one for

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Speaker 1: each one of them, but because he protected them, his

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Speaker 1: wife and granddaughter lived. They wouldn't have made it if

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Speaker 1: it wasn't for him giving up his life for them

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Speaker 1: have yet. Ami Rodriguez was fifteen. He would have been

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Speaker 1: a sophomore in high school that fall, and he absolutely

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00:33:50,359 --> 00:33:53,559
Speaker 1: loved soccer and video games, and what fifteen year old doesn't.

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00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: That's like the life, that's all you do at that age.

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Speaker 1: His uncle tried to protect him by getting in the

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Speaker 1: way the gunfire, but he was shot in the foot

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Speaker 1: in the process and he was unable to shield him.

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Speaker 1: My God, Angie Anglesby eighty six, had been on the

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00:34:11,519 --> 00:34:15,280
Speaker 1: phone just moments before the shooting began. She was telling

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00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,119
Speaker 1: her son on the phone that she missed him because

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00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:19,119
Speaker 1: he had gone on vacation and that they were going

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Speaker 1: to see each other soon, so it was okay. She

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00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:25,039
Speaker 1: was on the phone with their son when everything went down. Wow,

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00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: just that's so horrifying to be on the other end

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Speaker 1: of that and just not not know what is happening.

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00:34:31,519 --> 00:34:35,800
Speaker 1: And she went shopping at this Walmart every single Saturday morning. Wow.

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Speaker 1: Her granddaughter, Catherine stead of the following about her. My

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Speaker 1: grandmother was a strong woman. She raised all of her

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00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: seven children by herself, working multiple jobs to support them.

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Speaker 1: She was a woman of faith and the most independent, strong,

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Speaker 1: caring women I've ever known. Arthuro Bernavidez, sixty was an

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Speaker 1: Army veteran and a retired bus driver for the city.

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Speaker 1: He had lived in Apaso his whole life with his wife, Patricia,

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Speaker 1: and even though they never had their own biological children,

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00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: they fostered many always made sure to check on them

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Speaker 1: every single child they fostered. They still had a relationship

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Speaker 1: with Wow, and they absolutely loved their many nieces and nephews.

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Speaker 1: His grand niece Jacqueline, said that Ardua was extremely caring,

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Speaker 1: loving and strong willed. He loved hearing from all of

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Speaker 1: them and knowing that they were okay. And he also

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Speaker 1: loved being around people and he would talk to anyone

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Speaker 1: and he would especially love telling his army stories. He

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Speaker 1: just sounds lovely Elsam and Dosa Marquez was a mother

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Speaker 1: of two from Suda Kwadres. She was visiting family in

630
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,639
Speaker 1: Apasso when she stopped at the Walmart to make a

631
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,800
Speaker 1: quick purchase, like she was even pining on stopping there. Yeah.

632
00:35:47,039 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 1: Her husband wrote the following about her on Facebook. I

633
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,880
Speaker 1: bid farewell to my companion, the most marvelous of women,

634
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 1: a person full of light who will continue illuminating our

635
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: way for the rest of our lives. We are going

636
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:04,559
Speaker 1: to miss you, love. That was very sad to read. Michaels.

637
00:36:04,559 --> 00:36:06,559
Speaker 1: I got reading this at night time, like because I

638
00:36:06,559 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 1: couldn't sleep her, just like clients on my pill I'm like,

639
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,519
Speaker 1: why might I do? Missed myself. Leonardo Campos was forty one.

640
00:36:12,639 --> 00:36:15,519
Speaker 1: He lived in a baso with his wife, Mary Bell Loyam.

641
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,039
Speaker 1: She also died in the shooting. He grew up in

642
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,559
Speaker 1: San Juan, Texas, and his brother said about him, he

643
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:24,559
Speaker 1: always started to make people forget about their bad days.

644
00:36:25,079 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 1: And then a childhood friend of both of theirs said,

645
00:36:27,639 --> 00:36:31,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe they became a statistic. They were doing

646
00:36:31,559 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: back to school shopping for their grandchildren terrible, and their

647
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: dog was at the groomer and The only reason the

648
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: far away for their away family realized that they were

649
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: they had lost their lives or they were murdered in

650
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: the shooting is because a dog roomor is called asking

651
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 1: like this dog has not been picked up. And then

652
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 1: so the brother of Madi Ben drove to the parking

653
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:57,199
Speaker 1: lot and came and then that's when he came across

654
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: all the emergency vehicles that it was blocked off. Wow,

655
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: what a what horrible to find out. Yeah. Yeah. Kuan

656
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: Velaskiz was seventy seven and he was with his wife,

657
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: Nico Lassa when the Suni began. They had just parked

658
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:17,679
Speaker 1: their car when the government approached. Nicolasa was shot in

659
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: the face, but she survived the attack and Juan Velaskiz

660
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:27,639
Speaker 1: died on the scene. Apparently, Nico Lassa had called her

661
00:37:27,679 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 1: granddaughter Daisy right after they had been shot, and she

662
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: was telling them call an ambulance. They're not coming fast enough.

663
00:37:35,599 --> 00:37:40,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Gloria Iva Marquez was at the bank

664
00:37:40,639 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: inside Walmart when the Suni began, and her husband had

665
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,079
Speaker 1: called out to her because he was there too, to

666
00:37:47,199 --> 00:37:49,519
Speaker 1: move away because they had he had seen the guy

667
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 1: walk into the store, but she didn't get a chance

668
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: to wow. Maria Henya Legaretta Roth. She was a Chiwawa,

669
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,679
Speaker 1: Mexico resident. She had been an Apasso to pick up

670
00:38:03,679 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: her teenage daughter from the airport, but she had just

671
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 1: stopped at the airport to grab a few things before

672
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: heading there to pick up her daughter. She stopped at Walmart. Sorry,

673
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: what did I say, the airport? Oh my god? Sorry, yeah,

674
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,920
Speaker 1: so she stopped at Walmart before going to the airport

675
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,199
Speaker 1: to pick up her daughter. So again, she was just

676
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: there for a quick stop. There was a post on

677
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: Facebook from the Migrant Ministry of Chihuaua and they said

678
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 1: about her, just as just as you have always been

679
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: in solidarity with migrants, today our entire team embraces you

680
00:38:35,599 --> 00:38:41,639
Speaker 1: with the same solidarity. Sarda Esther Regalado and Adolfo Serros

681
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,519
Speaker 1: Ernandez were both from Suarez, Mexico, and they were just,

682
00:38:46,039 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 1: you know, shopping like every I mean, like so many

683
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: people were, Yeah, just going about the day. Their daughter,

684
00:38:53,039 --> 00:38:57,039
Speaker 1: Sandra wrote about them, I don't know how long it

685
00:38:57,039 --> 00:38:59,599
Speaker 1: will take for my soul to heal. Your deaths leave

686
00:38:59,679 --> 00:39:02,159
Speaker 1: us with a great vacuum. I'm so grateful I was

687
00:39:02,159 --> 00:39:06,760
Speaker 1: your daughter. Rest in peace, my beloved parents, and their

688
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,639
Speaker 1: granddaughter wrote as well that they certainly didn't deserve this,

689
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,119
Speaker 1: and yeah, no one. I mean, of course, it's just

690
00:39:14,159 --> 00:39:20,039
Speaker 1: no one does. Yeah, it's such a violent, horrible way

691
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:24,239
Speaker 1: to go. Yeah. Margie Record was sixty seven. She was

692
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:29,079
Speaker 1: shopping and about her her husband of twenty two years.

693
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, such a long time. Yeah, Tony. He

694
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: told news for in San Antonio that he knows she's

695
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: looking down and smiling at them, and that she was

696
00:39:40,599 --> 00:39:43,519
Speaker 1: the best wife. And I mean there was no one

697
00:39:43,559 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: else like her, like in the world. Evan Philiberto Manzano

698
00:39:48,519 --> 00:39:51,519
Speaker 1: was forty one. He was ac Da quad Is native

699
00:39:51,679 --> 00:39:55,800
Speaker 1: and he was known as a hard worker, exceptionally devoted

700
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,400
Speaker 1: to his wife and his two children. One of his

701
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:02,639
Speaker 1: co workers said that he was the best father and

702
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: he was just always working hard. From them, he said,

703
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 1: it didn't matter what the hour was, he was in

704
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,280
Speaker 1: the office or in the field, taking care of his

705
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 1: projects to provide for his family. Jorge Calvillio Garcia was

706
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: sixty one. He was visiting al Paso to see his

707
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:22,599
Speaker 1: son Louise and granddaughter Emily. They were outside raising money.

708
00:40:22,679 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: They were part of the soccer team, and he shielded

709
00:40:26,199 --> 00:40:30,199
Speaker 1: the girls and his nephew, and that's how he died.

710
00:40:32,599 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: It's just terrible, it really is. Maria Flores seventy seven

711
00:40:37,519 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: and Dragune Flores eighty three were They were from southern California,

712
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,760
Speaker 1: but they had retired in al Paso and they had

713
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,119
Speaker 1: been together for sixty years. Wow, that's a whole lifetime. Yeah.

714
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,639
Speaker 1: They were purchasing ara beds for a family that was visiting.

715
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: That's why they were at Walmart, their son. You know.

716
00:40:55,639 --> 00:40:58,639
Speaker 1: He told news reporters that when he first saw what

717
00:40:58,679 --> 00:41:00,519
Speaker 1: was happening, he was so desperate to reach them, but

718
00:41:00,519 --> 00:41:03,599
Speaker 1: they weren't asking their phones and that's when he realized, like, oh,

719
00:41:03,639 --> 00:41:08,039
Speaker 1: they must be dead. I can't imagine the desperation. Yeah,

720
00:41:08,159 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: the worst thing you can go through. Alexandra Hoffmann was

721
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 1: sixty six. He was born in Germany, but he had

722
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,039
Speaker 1: lived in squares for more than forty years because he

723
00:41:17,079 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: apparently loved Mexico. Wow. He considered himself a Mexican and

724
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 1: Mexico yeah, and Mexico was his second home. That's where

725
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,840
Speaker 1: he met his wife, that's where they raised their children.

726
00:41:32,199 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: That's where he lived and he would occasionally go into

727
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: a passo for again, like everyone else every day thing.

728
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 1: Just I read them and I'm like, that's he he was.

729
00:41:42,639 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: He was throwing the godness that he wasn't just invited,

730
00:41:45,519 --> 00:41:50,159
Speaker 1: he was throwing the host. Yeah. Theresa Sanchez eighty two.

731
00:41:50,679 --> 00:41:54,039
Speaker 1: She was a retired biology teacher and she had been

732
00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: living in an Apasso for thirty years. I think she

733
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,559
Speaker 1: I believe she's the oldest that was killed that day.

734
00:42:00,199 --> 00:42:06,760
Speaker 1: Was she eighty two? Wow? Dillermo Memo Garcia, he actually

735
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: died nine months after the shooting. He was shot that day,

736
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: but he went to the hospital. He had countless surgeries

737
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:15,559
Speaker 1: and he unfortunately the whole nine months after is when

738
00:42:15,559 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: he passed away. Wow. He was helping sell lemonade with

739
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:21,159
Speaker 1: his wife and for their kids soccer team. And yeah,

740
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:24,360
Speaker 1: that's everyone that passed away or that was killed that

741
00:42:24,440 --> 00:42:28,519
Speaker 1: day as and I remember that. As information started coming out,

742
00:42:28,639 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: that's when we learned more about the gunman and that

743
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:36,159
Speaker 1: this was specifically done to target Mexicans. The gunman drove

744
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: from his hometown of Allen, Texas to El Paso. How

745
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:45,519
Speaker 1: far are they This was six hundred and fifty miles. Wow, that's,

746
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:48,159
Speaker 1: like I want to say, over an eight hour drive.

747
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:51,599
Speaker 1: And so I mean he had time to stop, turn

748
00:42:51,679 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: back around and not do it right. That is plenty

749
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: of time. Yeah, but that was like his full intentions

750
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:01,519
Speaker 1: from the beginning. Yeah. He wrote a manifesto that he

751
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 1: titled The Inconvenient Truth. This was posted on eight chan,

752
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,519
Speaker 1: which is worse than four chan. Oh my god, taken down. Yeah,

753
00:43:09,639 --> 00:43:12,800
Speaker 1: like hoppy, you get worse, Yeah, and you can. In

754
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:17,519
Speaker 1: this manifesto, the gunman cited the far right conspiracy theory

755
00:43:17,639 --> 00:43:19,719
Speaker 1: that's just a bunch of like, I mean, it's a

756
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:21,639
Speaker 1: bunch of fake ass shit, Like it's not none of

757
00:43:21,639 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: it is true. But they call it the Great the

758
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 1: great replacement, right, do you want to like to find

759
00:43:27,519 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: that really quick? If anyone doesn't know what it is.

760
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,199
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just off the top of my head,

761
00:43:32,519 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: but I believe it's like when people think that, well,

762
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,679
Speaker 1: when white people think that they're being replaced by minorities,

763
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,559
Speaker 1: quote minorities, people of color. I mean outside of that,

764
00:43:43,599 --> 00:43:45,639
Speaker 1: I don't know that there's more to it. Yeah, and

765
00:43:45,679 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 1: then they're going to be outnumbered and like writing polls

766
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: and all that. Yeah. And again it's like this completely ridiculous, hateful,

767
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: not true thing. So he cited or he used language

768
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 1: about immigrants in the same way that then President Donald

769
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: Trump referred to Mexicans. He you know, was calling citing

770
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: a Hispanic invasion, not to mention all the like other

771
00:44:12,079 --> 00:44:15,800
Speaker 1: trash that you know, Trump has said about Mexicans, like oh,

772
00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: they're not sending their best, They're sending rapists and thieves

773
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,639
Speaker 1: and criminals, and like he's out here literally saying the

774
00:44:22,679 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: same shit right now. Yeah. But also on top of

775
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:31,320
Speaker 1: all that, most asylum seekers are South American, Central and

776
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,760
Speaker 1: South American these days, they're not even Mexican. Yeah, again,

777
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: that doesn't matter to these people. We're all Mexican and

778
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:42,679
Speaker 1: we're all like, you know, garbage according to them, including

779
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: being born here. Like they do not set you aside

780
00:44:46,519 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: from the group of like dirty Mexican immigrants, like you

781
00:44:51,039 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: are in the same group, Which is why I think

782
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:58,679
Speaker 1: Trump is the dumbest shit in the world. Yeah, it is,

783
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,079
Speaker 1: because like, first of all, they don't want your ass either.

784
00:45:01,679 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 1: They weren't throw your ass out of the country if

785
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:08,039
Speaker 1: they could too. Literally they've said it. It doesn't farewell

786
00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 1: to side with them because they don't want you. No,

787
00:45:11,639 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: they think you're dirty, just like the rest of us.

788
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,119
Speaker 1: So you might as well not. Yeah, it's like you're

789
00:45:16,159 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: writing so hard for a person that would that literally

790
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: called for people to harm you. Yeah, because I think

791
00:45:23,039 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: there was like even a lawsuit that someone filed against

792
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: Trump for saying like, oh, you know, beat these people up,

793
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 1: I'll pay for your lawyer pees or whatever. Like he

794
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: has said this, and people were out here saying, no,

795
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: he never like called for the harm of Mexicans. And

796
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: it's like, but it's like language has power, and language

797
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:49,199
Speaker 1: like that hateful, dehumanizing language, it does harm people, like

798
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:54,159
Speaker 1: look at what happens here exactly. And the gunman in

799
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,679
Speaker 1: his manifesto said that his beliefs pre date Trump and

800
00:45:58,679 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 1: that Trump should not be blamed for the attack. Why

801
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,079
Speaker 1: is he writing that, Yeah, even after sorry, this gunman

802
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 1: was not killed, right, just apprehended, apprehended. I mean, I

803
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 1: imagine he went into this with intentions, you know, to

804
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:17,920
Speaker 1: carry it on until the end, like you know, I mean,

805
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, but even after you know, his guilt

806
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,360
Speaker 1: and being caught, like his concern is, oh, it's not

807
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:30,360
Speaker 1: Trump's fault, Like how is somebody so deranged? Yeah, but

808
00:46:30,519 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: also to be pointing out like, oh, by the way,

809
00:46:32,679 --> 00:46:35,159
Speaker 1: this is how I've always saw like this. Literally, this

810
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:37,679
Speaker 1: to me reads as like maybe I've done this before,

811
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:43,519
Speaker 1: but like Trump being president, gave me permission. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

812
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: He also stated in his manifesto that he wanted the

813
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 1: shooting to serve as an incentive for Hispanics to leave

814
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,159
Speaker 1: the United States. He literally wrote, this attack is a

815
00:46:52,199 --> 00:46:55,039
Speaker 1: response to the Hispanic invasion of Texas. They are the

816
00:46:55,079 --> 00:47:01,639
Speaker 1: instigators Hispanic invasion of its ridiculous people that are like

817
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,159
Speaker 1: Hispanic have been there before Texas was even you know,

818
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,599
Speaker 1: part of the United States. Yeah, he said, they are

819
00:47:08,599 --> 00:47:11,599
Speaker 1: the indigenous people that of course, you know what I mean,

820
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: like just ridiculous. Yeah, I am simply defending my country

821
00:47:16,039 --> 00:47:19,599
Speaker 1: from cultural and ethnic replacement being brought on by the invasion.

822
00:47:20,639 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: This is not your country. This is never your country.

823
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:26,599
Speaker 1: First of all. No, no, it wasn't, and it wasn't

824
00:47:26,639 --> 00:47:31,199
Speaker 1: Mexico's either. It's it's indigenous land. Like, yeah, shut the

825
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,639
Speaker 1: fuck up. That's even that. Like I don't know all

826
00:47:33,679 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: of us. There's just he was just so wrong on

827
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 1: so many Yeah, just hateful and wrong. Yeah. In February

828
00:47:42,039 --> 00:47:45,599
Speaker 1: twenty twenty, the government was charged with ninety federal charges,

829
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:49,159
Speaker 1: including twenty two counts of committing a hate crime resulting

830
00:47:49,199 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: in death, twenty two counts of use of firearm to

831
00:47:52,519 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 1: commit murder, twenty three counts of a hate crime involving

832
00:47:55,400 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 1: an attempt to kill, and more. He first entered a place.

833
00:48:00,119 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: If not guilty, they tried to say, not guilty by

834
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 1: reason of insanity. No, No, you don't write a whole manifesto,

835
00:48:08,599 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: drive a whole six hundred plus miles. Yeah, And I

836
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: remember when this first happened, they were like, oh, he

837
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:17,599
Speaker 1: was like mentally ill, and like, I'm I'm mentally ill,

838
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,119
Speaker 1: you know, I see me. I do believe that something

839
00:48:20,159 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: has to be wrong with you in order to be

840
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:24,719
Speaker 1: able to do things like that. But that's not the

841
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's not an excuse, it's not you know,

842
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,199
Speaker 1: the sole reason. Ever, Like I feel like the main

843
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,039
Speaker 1: thing is usually has to do with the hate. Yeah,

844
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: and that's that's what it was here. Yeah. Yeah. They

845
00:48:37,559 --> 00:48:40,320
Speaker 1: kept like putting out, oh, his because the apparently the

846
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:44,639
Speaker 1: gunman's father was like a counselor, no, like a psychiatrist, psychologist,

847
00:48:44,679 --> 00:48:48,119
Speaker 1: I don't really them. Yeah, and they kept like, oh,

848
00:48:48,159 --> 00:48:50,119
Speaker 1: how could he miss the science of mental illness? That

849
00:48:50,159 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: would like lead to this, but this was the hateful radicalization, right, Yeah,

850
00:48:58,039 --> 00:49:00,920
Speaker 1: that's what this was. Like. Yeah, so yeah, his first

851
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 1: uptemp out of please was not guilty, and the trial

852
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 1: was held up because of COVID because this was twenty nineteen, right.

853
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:13,159
Speaker 1: So finally, on February eighth, twenty twenty three, he pleaded

854
00:49:13,199 --> 00:49:16,840
Speaker 1: guilty to ninety federal murder and hate crime charges. He

855
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: was sentenced to ninety consecutive life sentences on July seventh,

856
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. And I'm pretty sure that at first,

857
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:25,760
Speaker 1: like the death penalty was on the table, but then

858
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:30,599
Speaker 1: it was withdrawn. But it is Texas, Like, yeah, of

859
00:49:30,639 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: course it wasn't on the table, right, And after the shooting,

860
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:37,159
Speaker 1: the community of Apaso really you know, came together. There

861
00:49:37,199 --> 00:49:42,440
Speaker 1: was fundraisers, but also protests when Trump visited Apaso, because

862
00:49:42,639 --> 00:49:47,320
Speaker 1: this is kind of your fault because the yeah, the

863
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: blatant because I mean, as we all know, racism has

864
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 1: always been a part of this country. Isn't grained in

865
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 1: this country. This country was created, you know, through racism,

866
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,519
Speaker 1: so it's nothing new, of course, but the blatant discussing

867
00:50:02,599 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: like racist words that Trump felt fine and people accepted

868
00:50:08,039 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 1: saying it justified in people's you know, minds, it justified

869
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,119
Speaker 1: their own racism and their own hatred, and it became

870
00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: like more acceptable in their eyes to be outright blatantly

871
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: racist to people, and so like words and behavior like that,

872
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: it drives this kind of violence. And like, I mean,

873
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,639
Speaker 1: after it first happened, they were trying to like say, oh,

874
00:50:31,639 --> 00:50:34,519
Speaker 1: he's not to be blamed for this, but like, look

875
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:37,679
Speaker 1: at how he can campaign the things he was saying

876
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:41,239
Speaker 1: specifically about Mexican people. Yeah, why was this person targeting

877
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:48,159
Speaker 1: specifically Mexicans? Right, it's yeah, and it's literally happening right now. Yep,

878
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:53,639
Speaker 1: there's people holding up signs that say mass deportations. Now,

879
00:50:54,599 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: just just ridiculous. He literally just went on some other

880
00:50:59,559 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: like I don't know, speech or something now moving I mean, now,

881
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,639
Speaker 1: I guess finally accepting that there's more than just Mexicans,

882
00:51:05,639 --> 00:51:09,079
Speaker 1: because he also said, like a Salvador, there are no

883
00:51:09,199 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: criminals for us. Yeah, we're being recognized finally, right representation

884
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:20,920
Speaker 1: question mark? Yeah, right, but yeah, this basically just happened.

885
00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: It has not been that many years, and he's out

886
00:51:23,039 --> 00:51:28,239
Speaker 1: here repeating the same rhetoric that this person fully embraced. Yeah. Yeah,

887
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: it just it's you know, my god, I can't talk infuriating. Yeah,

888
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:36,559
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. Let me go back to the response.

889
00:51:36,599 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: I guess. So there was fundraising concerts by locals, just

890
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,039
Speaker 1: like a big move to help everyone. But also the

891
00:51:44,119 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: prison I mentioned earlier that had saved the baby Paul

892
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,119
Speaker 1: and went back in to save countless of people. He

893
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,199
Speaker 1: was found too. His name is lasro Ponse. Wow. He

894
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,039
Speaker 1: grew up here in this area all his life and

895
00:51:57,079 --> 00:51:59,559
Speaker 1: he's been going back and forth from Aguadis and I'll

896
00:51:59,559 --> 00:52:03,800
Speaker 1: pass a living in both from childhood. But he was homeless,

897
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:06,519
Speaker 1: unhoused at the time of this. Him and his wife

898
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: had set up a tent next to the Sam's Club

899
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,360
Speaker 1: that was next to the walmart. Wow, and when he

900
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:17,199
Speaker 1: heard gunshots he ran inside and like saved people. Wow.

901
00:52:17,679 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 1: Just unbelievable. Yeah. Every time, you know, we talk about

902
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: things like this, I'm just amazed at the humanity and

903
00:52:27,519 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 1: bravery you know of regular ordinary people, you know, living

904
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: their regular, ordinary lives and being forced to you know,

905
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 1: survive and being forced to protect their loved ones exactly.

906
00:52:42,119 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: And that's what matters here. That's what's important, not what

907
00:52:46,119 --> 00:52:49,599
Speaker 1: the shitty president is going to say not when he's

908
00:52:49,639 --> 00:52:52,199
Speaker 1: going to show up to make face, because that's what

909
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,719
Speaker 1: he did. His ass was like golfing when it all happened.

910
00:52:56,039 --> 00:52:58,800
Speaker 1: It took him days to get to El Paso. People

911
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: refuse to meet him or meet with him, and I

912
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:06,800
Speaker 1: don't blame them. I don't. I wouldn't have either neither neither, Like,

913
00:53:06,840 --> 00:53:10,840
Speaker 1: how can you show up to this place where people

914
00:53:11,519 --> 00:53:14,559
Speaker 1: brown people, brown Mexican people have lost their lives because

915
00:53:14,599 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: of the shit that comes out of your disgusting fucking mouths,

916
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 1: like and hateful, hateful people are inspired by you and

917
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: your ugly ass. You know, and killed people, commit harm

918
00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:29,280
Speaker 1: to people, and then they have you have the gall

919
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:35,079
Speaker 1: to show your discussing face in that city. Yeah. Yeah,

920
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,119
Speaker 1: if I would have gone, I would have thrown hands

921
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,320
Speaker 1: and then I would have been arrested. Things I would

922
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:43,519
Speaker 1: have done that I cannot say, but yeah, So I

923
00:53:43,559 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: do want to read statements from family members during the

924
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:51,400
Speaker 1: gunman's trial. So, like I mentioned earlier, Andre and Jordan Antoto,

925
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: they were both killed that day. Andre's sister Deborah, read

926
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: a letter on behalf of baby Paul, who was two

927
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:02,639
Speaker 1: months old when the shooting happened, and she wrote that

928
00:54:03,039 --> 00:54:08,119
Speaker 1: he misses his father and like it's just this was

929
00:54:08,119 --> 00:54:13,360
Speaker 1: also when necessary. Yeah. Andre's brother, Tito, he said that

930
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,360
Speaker 1: after his brother was killed, their father was full of

931
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:20,199
Speaker 1: heartache and he was a patriarch of the family and

932
00:54:20,599 --> 00:54:23,599
Speaker 1: he just you know, found it so hard to move on.

933
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,519
Speaker 1: He has since died since the shooting, and he did

934
00:54:28,599 --> 00:54:31,760
Speaker 1: tell the family that he had forgiven the shooter for

935
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,159
Speaker 1: killing his youngest son. He said, I forgive him, but

936
00:54:35,199 --> 00:54:39,119
Speaker 1: I won't forgive the devil inside him. Marie bell So

937
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:43,039
Speaker 1: Marie bell Randezloya and her husband, Leonardo Campos, were both

938
00:54:43,159 --> 00:54:46,320
Speaker 1: killed in the shooting. Her son told the gunman in

939
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: his statement, he's tried so bad to forget what he's done.

940
00:54:50,239 --> 00:54:53,559
Speaker 1: I hope God can one day forgive you. I really

941
00:54:53,599 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 1: hope you think about what you've done. Alfredo, Marie Bella,

942
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,199
Speaker 1: Naz's brother said that he was filled with sadnes is

943
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:02,639
Speaker 1: because he can't celebrate holidays with his sister and brother

944
00:55:02,679 --> 00:55:05,639
Speaker 1: in law, and that his sense of security is gone now.

945
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:07,920
Speaker 1: Every time he goes out in the public, he's on

946
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,440
Speaker 1: the lookout for psychos like the gunman, and then he

947
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: told him, I hate that you're alive, eating and sleeping.

948
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:16,639
Speaker 1: I wish you all the suddenness in the world. David Johnson.

949
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,599
Speaker 1: So his relatives also spoke. They his daughter, Stephanie Melendez,

950
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: said that or told him or she had, I guess

951
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:26,159
Speaker 1: all these other things planned to say, but when the

952
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:28,760
Speaker 1: moment came, she was like, I can't even find the words.

953
00:55:28,760 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you that in your active hatred,

954
00:55:31,679 --> 00:55:34,480
Speaker 1: you took a good man. Her own daughter was with

955
00:55:34,559 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 1: her grandparents. They died protecting her, and she survived the shooting.

956
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,519
Speaker 1: She's never been the same obviously, I mean, how could you. Yeah,

957
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,639
Speaker 1: she said, you showed her evil, you showed her monsters

958
00:55:46,679 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 1: do exist outside of storybooks. I want you to remember

959
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: my daughter's crimes. I want them to haunt you. And

960
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: her daughter also spoke. The survivor. She said, I shall

961
00:55:57,039 --> 00:56:00,920
Speaker 1: not ever forgive you. And then Raymond and the son

962
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 1: in law or sorry brother in law. He said, I

963
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:05,840
Speaker 1: don't know what kind of people raise you to be

964
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 1: this kind of person. Shame on your parents. And then

965
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,880
Speaker 1: he also said, oh, Kathleen Johnson, she survives. She's David

966
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: Johnson's wife. She said that she's had countless hours of

967
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 1: counseling to deal with PTSD. She doesn't know if she'll

968
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,599
Speaker 1: ever be the same, if that's even possible, and that

969
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: she has to remind herself every day that she's safe

970
00:56:23,039 --> 00:56:26,159
Speaker 1: from the gunman. That there are days she cannot get

971
00:56:26,159 --> 00:56:29,119
Speaker 1: out of bed. And then she also said that even

972
00:56:29,199 --> 00:56:32,199
Speaker 1: though she took her husband's life, she can't take the

973
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:37,559
Speaker 1: memories and joy from when he lived. And then Alexander

974
00:56:37,639 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: Hoffman's family, the honorary Mexican who lived in Mexico all

975
00:56:44,519 --> 00:56:48,559
Speaker 1: his life. His son said, you're an evil parasite to

976
00:56:48,639 --> 00:56:52,440
Speaker 1: the gunman, and that he destroyed her family. That his

977
00:56:52,639 --> 00:56:54,760
Speaker 1: father and mother had been together for more than forty

978
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,079
Speaker 1: years and that they were a small but happy family,

979
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,639
Speaker 1: and he killed his father in such a hourly way,

980
00:57:01,079 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: and that he was also ignorant for not knowing that

981
00:57:03,639 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: immigrants bring jobs and spend money. And he told them

982
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,000
Speaker 1: that he hopes every night he thinks about the people

983
00:57:10,039 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: he shot, and that he can't fall asleep. He said,

984
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 1: you're a coward and a mistake of society. Wow. His

985
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:20,119
Speaker 1: daughter Elise went out to say that he loved watching

986
00:57:20,199 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: James Bond and Star Trek movies and that he died

987
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:27,159
Speaker 1: not knowing that his grandson took in his footsteps and

988
00:57:27,199 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 1: got or pursued an engineering degree after high school, and

989
00:57:30,920 --> 00:57:34,039
Speaker 1: that the killer robbed them all of an opportunity to

990
00:57:34,079 --> 00:57:39,239
Speaker 1: grow to live, you know, with their father. Berta Patricia Benavides,

991
00:57:39,559 --> 00:57:42,639
Speaker 1: the wife of Arturo Benavidez, the army veteran city bus

992
00:57:42,679 --> 00:57:44,800
Speaker 1: driver who loves to talk about his time in the army.

993
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: She said that they had been together for thirty four

994
00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:52,199
Speaker 1: years and that he left her all by herself because

995
00:57:52,239 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 1: they didn't have kids. I know, I'm like, and that

996
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,559
Speaker 1: she'll never get it. She has fallen into depression. She

997
00:58:02,639 --> 00:58:06,320
Speaker 1: misses her husband every single day. And she told him,

998
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,760
Speaker 1: I have one question, why did you do it? And

999
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: she then she so answers her own question. She said,

1000
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: because you don't know the Lord. You've never gotten close

1001
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,199
Speaker 1: to the Lord. I mean, because he's a hateful person. Yeah.

1002
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:22,599
Speaker 1: Christopher Morales, the grandson of Sanchez, the eighty two year

1003
00:58:22,599 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: old who was killed that day, and he said he

1004
00:58:25,039 --> 00:58:27,440
Speaker 1: had just gotten a ticket to visit because he lives

1005
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 1: in Las Vegas and he was supposed to go visit,

1006
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:32,719
Speaker 1: and he was on he was the one on the

1007
00:58:32,719 --> 00:58:36,719
Speaker 1: phone with her, and so he told the gunman that

1008
00:58:37,039 --> 00:58:38,719
Speaker 1: he still gets to eat three meals a day and

1009
00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:42,199
Speaker 1: talk to his family. And when the gunman got like

1010
00:58:42,199 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: like nodded as he was saying this, then he got

1011
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: like super mad at him, and he told him, you

1012
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,480
Speaker 1: get to suck dick in prison, you get to be

1013
00:58:49,519 --> 00:58:52,559
Speaker 1: a little bitch. Damn. I just love that because I'm like,

1014
00:58:52,639 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: I wish that's like I can't even imagine being disclosed

1015
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,719
Speaker 1: as someone who did this and like not being able

1016
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,880
Speaker 1: to just like deck him in the face. Yeah. Yeah,

1017
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: And I get it. I mean I get it, you

1018
00:59:02,519 --> 00:59:04,440
Speaker 1: can't just go out here punching people, but like I

1019
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:07,559
Speaker 1: can't just can't imagine seeing this person like not and

1020
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,280
Speaker 1: you're like, are you are you serious right now? Yeah?

1021
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:14,599
Speaker 1: It just to me because apparently the gunman smirked and

1022
00:59:14,639 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: nodding his head. I mean, yeah, I can't imagine the

1023
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:20,679
Speaker 1: rage that you must feel at that. And so, like,

1024
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:24,199
Speaker 1: you know, whatever comes out comes out. I will say

1025
00:59:24,519 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 1: that I've never been a fan of that thing that

1026
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: people say. Of course, even of I don't know, like,

1027
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:34,519
Speaker 1: no matter how discussing you know someone is innocent. People

1028
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: do go to prison, people that come in non violent

1029
00:59:38,960 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: crimes go to prison, and so that joke, you know,

1030
00:59:43,519 --> 00:59:46,559
Speaker 1: quote joke of oh may get raped in prison or her,

1031
00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:49,519
Speaker 1: they'll get what's coming to them. Don't drop the soap,

1032
00:59:49,639 --> 00:59:56,159
Speaker 1: like I find that not okay and so but of course,

1033
00:59:56,199 --> 00:59:59,840
Speaker 1: I mean this person was in their feelings, and you know,

1034
01:00:00,199 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: it is what it is. You can't control sometimes what

1035
01:00:02,519 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: you say. Yeah, yeah, I mean I can't even like

1036
01:00:05,239 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 1: yeah just to seem smirk, you know, like to me,

1037
01:00:07,360 --> 01:00:11,159
Speaker 1: it shows that he doesn't care. He never cares. Yeah.

1038
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: The reason people are able to commit these violent, violent

1039
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,559
Speaker 1: crimes against usually against people of color, black people, brown people,

1040
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: and women and women of color included in that of

1041
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,679
Speaker 1: course as well, is because they don't see us as people.

1042
01:00:28,159 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: They don't see us as people equal to them. And

1043
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:36,159
Speaker 1: it's where you know, that dehumanization piece comes in and

1044
01:00:36,239 --> 01:00:40,920
Speaker 1: why words of hatred, like the words that come out

1045
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: of Trump's mouth are exactly dangerous. Yeah, Like it's not

1046
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:50,639
Speaker 1: just words, you know, you're endangering people's lives. Add that

1047
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:55,800
Speaker 1: to that, you know trans people and you know LGBTQ

1048
01:00:55,880 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 1: plus people as well. Yeah. Ad Masano, wife of Ivan

1049
01:01:00,559 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: Filiberto Manzano, she told him in Spanish that she took away,

1050
01:01:05,079 --> 01:01:09,280
Speaker 1: her children's hero, their pillar of support, and that their

1051
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:11,719
Speaker 1: daughter is not going to have a father to give

1052
01:01:11,719 --> 01:01:13,719
Speaker 1: her away at the wedding, their son is not going

1053
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,559
Speaker 1: to have someone to teach them to shave, learn how

1054
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:19,559
Speaker 1: to drive, and that she hopes her children won't grow

1055
01:01:19,639 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: up with hatred toward the gunment and that they're able

1056
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: to move on with their lives. And she added that

1057
01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:28,199
Speaker 1: their dad and the kids are proud to be a

1058
01:01:28,239 --> 01:01:32,199
Speaker 1: Mexican and that she is prior to have been part

1059
01:01:32,239 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: of this Mexican family. Because that's why this person did it.

1060
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: He was literally targeting specifically looking for Mexicans. That's why

1061
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:43,599
Speaker 1: he drove that many hours to do this. Yeah, Fancisco

1062
01:01:43,719 --> 01:01:48,199
Speaker 1: Javier Rodriguez, he is the father of Javier Rodriguez, the

1063
01:01:48,199 --> 01:01:51,199
Speaker 1: fifteen year old who was killed. He wore a T

1064
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:55,199
Speaker 1: shirt with his son's face for this trial and when

1065
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:59,599
Speaker 1: he was given his statement, he demanded for the government

1066
01:01:59,679 --> 01:02:03,719
Speaker 1: to at his son at his shirt. The gunman shook

1067
01:02:03,719 --> 01:02:06,039
Speaker 1: his head. No, that would have filled me with rage.

1068
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: But oh my god, I can't seriously, I don't know

1069
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 1: how he was then able to even just speak after this.

1070
01:02:12,159 --> 01:02:14,519
Speaker 1: I don't know, but he said, you don't have the

1071
01:02:14,519 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: balls to look at him. You had the balls to

1072
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,679
Speaker 1: shoot him. You drove eight hours to command a meat

1073
01:02:18,719 --> 01:02:22,639
Speaker 1: crime without thinking of the damage you'd cause. And I'm

1074
01:02:22,719 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: just I don't know how they would like any of

1075
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:27,559
Speaker 1: these people were able to go up there and face

1076
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: look at this person and say all these things. The strengths,

1077
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:36,079
Speaker 1: the strength that it takes. Marg her ninety year old father,

1078
01:02:36,159 --> 01:02:39,559
Speaker 1: Luis Wuanas, was killed and her mother was injured. She

1079
01:02:40,159 --> 01:02:43,079
Speaker 1: told the gunman that his ignorance is what led him

1080
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: to do something so hateful, so hurtful. And then she

1081
01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: also berated him during this trial for thinking that the

1082
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:52,679
Speaker 1: US was being invaded for immigrants, and she told him

1083
01:02:53,079 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 1: that whoever taught him history should have done better. They

1084
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 1: taught it wrong. And then she said Native Americans have

1085
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: always been here after them before you and your American

1086
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: settler homies rolled in. And to think about that when

1087
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: you say you're defending your country. Yeah, and then she

1088
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:11,679
Speaker 1: told him people who hold racist views like him only

1089
01:03:11,719 --> 01:03:16,599
Speaker 1: contribute to hate, while immigrants contribute to everything. She said

1090
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,480
Speaker 1: the following and this is the last thing that was said,

1091
01:03:20,519 --> 01:03:23,800
Speaker 1: and I cannot believe like so she said, you were

1092
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,119
Speaker 1: so worried about immigrants taking away something from you. Well,

1093
01:03:27,159 --> 01:03:31,119
Speaker 1: the only thing we're taking away today is your freedom. Wow.

1094
01:03:31,519 --> 01:03:34,599
Speaker 1: And then she walked back to the bench and there

1095
01:03:34,679 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: was like a roar of a blause after that. Wow.

1096
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 1: And I also those were all the statements that were

1097
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,519
Speaker 1: read in the trial. But I also want to mention

1098
01:03:41,639 --> 01:03:44,159
Speaker 1: because I think another thing that happened first twenty twenty,

1099
01:03:44,360 --> 01:03:48,119
Speaker 1: so COVID hit almost right after this. And another thing

1100
01:03:48,159 --> 01:03:52,199
Speaker 1: that kind of went like unspoken or really unfocused was

1101
01:03:52,239 --> 01:03:56,519
Speaker 1: the Mexican victims of the shooting, because it wasn't just

1102
01:03:56,639 --> 01:04:01,159
Speaker 1: Mexican American, right, Like literally people from Mexicans. Yeah, one

1103
01:04:01,239 --> 01:04:06,559
Speaker 1: witness that her testimony was instrumental to piecing together the

1104
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: path that the gunman took in the store. She was

1105
01:04:10,639 --> 01:04:14,760
Speaker 1: deported after this. Oh my god, this is horrible. I

1106
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,639
Speaker 1: could not fucking believe it when I read that due

1107
01:04:17,679 --> 01:04:22,119
Speaker 1: to a traffic violation. That's ridiculous. That's what I'm saying,

1108
01:04:22,199 --> 01:04:26,199
Speaker 1: Like people don't understand that immigrants are less likely and

1109
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,679
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, right, Like American citizens commit crimes and

1110
01:04:29,719 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: they don't get sent to other countries, right because they

1111
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,440
Speaker 1: happen to have the privilege to be born here, but

1112
01:04:35,159 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 1: immigrants are less likely to commit crimes because of the

1113
01:04:39,400 --> 01:04:42,800
Speaker 1: fear of deportation. Imagine driving because you need to drive

1114
01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:46,719
Speaker 1: in this country in most cities, driving to your daily activities, work,

1115
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,599
Speaker 1: whatever it is, and being afraid of doing anything wrong

1116
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,639
Speaker 1: at any point in time because you might get pulled

1117
01:04:53,679 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 1: over and then deported. Like what the hell kind of

1118
01:04:55,880 --> 01:04:59,320
Speaker 1: life is that? And our mother lived it, and we

1119
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:03,719
Speaker 1: lived in fear of, you know, her being over. Do

1120
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:06,840
Speaker 1: you remember when we crap, Like, no, we didn't crash,

1121
01:05:06,840 --> 01:05:10,719
Speaker 1: so when in the freeway and because we're in the freeway,

1122
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:13,239
Speaker 1: she couldn't stop and rented the car in front. It

1123
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,880
Speaker 1: was like an accordion of your ends rear ending. Sorry,

1124
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry according to rear ends. Okay, yes it was,

1125
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:28,079
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. Anyway, we begged the policeman. Well, first

1126
01:05:28,119 --> 01:05:30,519
Speaker 1: we begged the people in front of us, and today

1127
01:05:30,519 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: I want to let us leave, to let us leave

1128
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:35,559
Speaker 1: because we didn't want the police to be there. We're like, look,

1129
01:05:35,599 --> 01:05:38,039
Speaker 1: we got hit, like just pretend this van wasn't here.

1130
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,559
Speaker 1: They didn't do it. The police got there and we begged, cried,

1131
01:05:42,119 --> 01:05:45,079
Speaker 1: pleaded for them not to do anything, so that our

1132
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:48,679
Speaker 1: mom wouldn't be deported and I think he nothing happened.

1133
01:05:48,679 --> 01:05:51,599
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, yeah, but yeah, I mean, it's a

1134
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:54,679
Speaker 1: literal it's a true fear. And for her who she

1135
01:05:55,159 --> 01:06:01,119
Speaker 1: survived this horrific crime that specifically targeted her. She survived

1136
01:06:01,119 --> 01:06:05,440
Speaker 1: this and then she was deported. Are you furious? And

1137
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:08,719
Speaker 1: it turns out that a lot of the victims, survivors

1138
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: of this white racist man that are Mexican citizens, cannot

1139
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 1: get visas. Wowe survived the shooting. She has no feeling

1140
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,199
Speaker 1: in her left leg. She was at Walmart with her

1141
01:06:22,239 --> 01:06:25,639
Speaker 1: aunt to buy school supplies that they could resell in Mexico. Later,

1142
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,960
Speaker 1: they were literally about to leave a store, but they

1143
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:32,360
Speaker 1: decided to stop to go to the bathroom. That's when

1144
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:36,119
Speaker 1: the gunman entered and when they heard the shots, and

1145
01:06:36,199 --> 01:06:40,480
Speaker 1: her aunt and per obviously both highly traumatized. Her aunt

1146
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: remembers praying to God that she was spared, and right

1147
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:46,679
Speaker 1: after that, Liliana was shot in the leg, and she

1148
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,119
Speaker 1: blames herself. Obviously it's not her fault, but she blames

1149
01:06:50,119 --> 01:06:53,960
Speaker 1: herself for praying that, and she cannot get the image

1150
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:59,639
Speaker 1: of her knees bleeding out of her head. And then

1151
01:06:59,679 --> 01:07:03,039
Speaker 1: before COVID happened, Liliana could at least cross the border

1152
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:05,400
Speaker 1: to receive free mental health care that was provided for

1153
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,519
Speaker 1: the survivors of the attack that has long disappeared. She

1154
01:07:09,559 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 1: also needs special physical therapy that is only on this

1155
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:17,239
Speaker 1: side of the border. That is absolutely unacceptable. Yeah, and

1156
01:07:17,840 --> 01:07:21,599
Speaker 1: since the shooting, she has severe anxiety and depression. She

1157
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:24,159
Speaker 1: cannot access that free help that is on the other

1158
01:07:24,239 --> 01:07:28,280
Speaker 1: side because first, when twenty twenty happened, the border completely

1159
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: closed I don't remember for how long. So that left

1160
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:34,199
Speaker 1: her without help. And now these services are slowly disappearing.

1161
01:07:34,679 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: The funding has gone, and you know, there's still some

1162
01:07:38,159 --> 01:07:41,280
Speaker 1: organizations out here that are like still providing care. The

1163
01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: Family Resiliency Center is still working with the Mexican consulate

1164
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: to our for services and so people can finally go

1165
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,679
Speaker 1: back and forth again, which they weren't able to do.

1166
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:55,880
Speaker 1: Anna Vitela, she's another Mexican survivor of this shooting. She

1167
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,719
Speaker 1: has terrible nightmares ever since it happened. That caused her

1168
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:02,159
Speaker 1: to what the bend. She's severe. During the shooting, she

1169
01:08:02,239 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 1: was shot and she passed out and her nine year

1170
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,119
Speaker 1: old son dragged her to safety. Oh my god, I

1171
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 1: just people again, like they're put in these impossible situations,

1172
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,159
Speaker 1: traumatic situations, their lives are torn apart, and then they

1173
01:08:14,199 --> 01:08:16,520
Speaker 1: can't even get the help that they need because of

1174
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,720
Speaker 1: this fake, made up border that so called Americans want

1175
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:24,960
Speaker 1: to enforce. When you're not really an American, right, like indigenous

1176
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: people are from here, not you. Yeah, you're technically from Europe,

1177
01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:30,720
Speaker 1: and maybe you should go back to where you came from.

1178
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 1: Right If I were to take back to where I

1179
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:34,600
Speaker 1: come from, I would still be in North America. Where

1180
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: would you be, Well, you know, I would be still

1181
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,640
Speaker 1: be in America, maybe also in Central America, but you

1182
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: would be across the world in Europe. That's where your

1183
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:46,960
Speaker 1: ass would be exactly. And Anna Vitella, her son for

1184
01:08:47,079 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 1: Christmas like two years ago, wrote that his wish, like

1185
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:55,399
Speaker 1: what he wanted from Alinho Jesus, was for his mom

1186
01:08:55,439 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: to be herself again. Oh my god, I can't because

1187
01:09:00,680 --> 01:09:03,800
Speaker 1: Safina Ki Menez she was at Walmart on the day

1188
01:09:03,800 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 1: of the shooting to make funeral arrangements with a relative

1189
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: because her husband had just passed away, and that's when

1190
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,560
Speaker 1: the gunman entered and so she survived, but she has

1191
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:16,840
Speaker 1: trouble leaving her home due to terrible panic attacks, and

1192
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:20,680
Speaker 1: like I said, these services that were provided to them

1193
01:09:21,079 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 1: are getting more difficult to access now. The majority of

1194
01:09:26,039 --> 01:09:30,039
Speaker 1: the Mexican survivors of this hate crime were not able

1195
01:09:30,039 --> 01:09:34,199
Speaker 1: to get work permits, they were denied, you, visas denied,

1196
01:09:34,680 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: and like I said, some of them were instrumental to

1197
01:09:37,039 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 1: solving or to figuring out what happened that day. Yeah,

1198
01:09:41,039 --> 01:09:45,119
Speaker 1: like Liliana Munos who was deported. Disgusting, absolutely diss I

1199
01:09:45,199 --> 01:09:48,079
Speaker 1: just I can't believe it. And so yeah, the majority

1200
01:09:48,119 --> 01:09:50,960
Speaker 1: of the Mexican survivors have tried applying for visas and

1201
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:53,159
Speaker 1: they've been denied. There's only like a certain amount of

1202
01:09:53,159 --> 01:09:56,159
Speaker 1: the type of visa that they requested that is handed out,

1203
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 1: and for that reason or for whatever reason, they've been

1204
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,880
Speaker 1: done every single time. Wow, And it's just like it

1205
01:10:02,920 --> 01:10:10,279
Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. They were targeted, yeah, by a

1206
01:10:10,319 --> 01:10:14,399
Speaker 1: citizen of this country. They should be getting all the

1207
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 1: help and whatever they need. Yeah, And I just can't.

1208
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,039
Speaker 1: I cannot believe that this is what happened to them,

1209
01:10:21,079 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: that they won were deported or can't get help, can't

1210
01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: get the help that they need. So that I'm like,

1211
01:10:28,039 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: I didn't know that yeah, me, neither. That just makes

1212
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:35,520
Speaker 1: me even I mean more angry. I'm gonna be looking

1213
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,800
Speaker 1: into the organization I mentioned. Maybe there's like a donation

1214
01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:42,319
Speaker 1: link or something so that we can help out wherever

1215
01:10:42,359 --> 01:10:47,560
Speaker 1: we can. Yeah, but yeah, that is the El Paso

1216
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:52,720
Speaker 1: shooting two eighteen, And yeah, I mean I wanted to

1217
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,560
Speaker 1: share it, especially because we are seeing the same hateful

1218
01:10:56,640 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: rhetoric that it's twenty sixteen all over again. Stopped but

1219
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:04,039
Speaker 1: it's back. Yeah, And it's just I don't know. And again,

1220
01:11:04,079 --> 01:11:08,840
Speaker 1: if you're Latino for Trump, you're fucking stupid. You're so stupid.

1221
01:11:09,319 --> 01:11:11,600
Speaker 1: You're the stupidest person of them all. Like I don't

1222
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,680
Speaker 1: even have words to describe how fucking stupid you are. Yeah,

1223
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: And it's just it's not in your like why why

1224
01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: when like against your own interest. Yeah, at the end

1225
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,239
Speaker 1: of the day, these people do not care. Like you're

1226
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:25,600
Speaker 1: out here like saying, oh well, immigrants blaue blah blah,

1227
01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,560
Speaker 1: but kids in their ass and they would kick your

1228
01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 1: ass out of this country if they could. They would.

1229
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:32,640
Speaker 1: They would, like how many of them were campaigning like,

1230
01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:35,319
Speaker 1: oh well, I would make it so that children of

1231
01:11:35,359 --> 01:11:39,079
Speaker 1: immigrants actually get supported. And you know why, They've done it.

1232
01:11:39,359 --> 01:11:44,880
Speaker 1: They have done it. This country has deported Mexican Americans.

1233
01:11:45,119 --> 01:11:49,119
Speaker 1: It's like history repeats itself all the time. Yeah, and

1234
01:11:51,039 --> 01:11:54,239
Speaker 1: I don't know. Everything's depressing. Yeah. All we have to

1235
01:11:54,279 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: hold on to is our little ghost stories. Yeah, and

1236
01:11:57,680 --> 01:12:01,720
Speaker 1: hug your family members, think about them. It's just all

1237
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,079
Speaker 1: around again. All we have to hold on to is

1238
01:12:04,319 --> 01:12:08,079
Speaker 1: each other. Yeah, because that's what's gonna get us through

1239
01:12:08,119 --> 01:12:13,119
Speaker 1: all this. Yes, that and ghost stories. Honestly, So, yeah,

1240
01:12:13,239 --> 01:12:16,600
Speaker 1: this is an extra long episode. I'm sorry it is.

1241
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,439
Speaker 1: Actually I love I love extra long episodes. Me too.

1242
01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,159
Speaker 1: But we have reached the end. We'll take a quick

1243
01:12:23,199 --> 01:12:26,800
Speaker 1: break and come back for Spaghea recommendations. I actually do

1244
01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,399
Speaker 1: have to pay for my Speakara recommendation, so I'm just

1245
01:12:29,399 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 1: gonna sit here and be sad. So I want him

1246
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,319
Speaker 1: to stay and talk with me. Milott put his headphones

1247
01:12:34,319 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: on and I'm just kidding, Melo, what do you have

1248
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:46,720
Speaker 1: to say? He's not talking? Okay, Milo, Okay, We're back

1249
01:12:46,840 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 1: for Scoop Scooby Key, Scoopy say Scoopy. Bookie recommendations. Sorry,

1250
01:12:53,039 --> 01:12:57,119
Speaker 1: do you have any Actually I do so. Last episode

1251
01:12:57,199 --> 01:12:59,680
Speaker 1: I mentioned a book I started reading and actually described

1252
01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,800
Speaker 1: their because I am accidentally reading too many books at once,

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01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,960
Speaker 1: and you know, they're all jumbled up in my head.

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Speaker 1: But let me go to it. Where's my Libby, Libby Libby.

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01:13:11,319 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: My recommendation is your local library. Okay, So last week

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01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:21,239
Speaker 1: when I described the book as My Sister the serial Killer,

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01:13:21,239 --> 01:13:24,359
Speaker 1: I think it's called meets Crying h Mart. That's actually

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:27,319
Speaker 1: the description for the Eyes Are the Best Part by

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01:13:27,399 --> 01:13:30,720
Speaker 1: Monica Kim, and I actually haven't started reading that book yet,

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: but it piqued my interest. Let me just describe like

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: the description so that people in case they're interested, but

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01:13:36,039 --> 01:13:39,119
Speaker 1: I'll probably start reading it soon because I'm about ninety

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01:13:39,119 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: percent done with the current book that I'm reading. So

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,199
Speaker 1: it says Crying in h Mart meets my Sister the

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01:13:45,239 --> 01:13:48,880
Speaker 1: serial Killer in this feminist psychological horror about the making

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01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:52,760
Speaker 1: of a female serial killer from a Korean American perspective,

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01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:57,119
Speaker 1: and then it describes g wants life tumbles into disarray

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01:13:57,159 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 1: in the wake of her I'm not going to lie.

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01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: I saw the title and I then I checked it

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01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,399
Speaker 1: out immediately. I didn't even see exactly what it was about.

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01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,520
Speaker 1: Gi Want's life tumbles into disarray in the wake of

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01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:12,119
Speaker 1: her appa's extra metal affair and subsequent departure, her mother distraught,

1273
01:14:12,319 --> 01:14:15,279
Speaker 1: her younger sister hurt and confused, her college freshman grades

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01:14:15,399 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 1: failing her dreams horrifying yet enticing in them. Jiwan walks

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01:14:19,479 --> 01:14:23,439
Speaker 1: through bloody rooms, full of eyes, succulent blue eyes, salivatingly

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01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,359
Speaker 1: blue eyes. That's a weird word I had never said before.

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01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,960
Speaker 1: Eyes the same shape and shade as Georges, who is

1278
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:34,640
Speaker 1: UMA's obnoxious new boyfriend. George has already overstayed his welcome

1279
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:38,319
Speaker 1: in her family's claustrophobic apartment. He brags about his puffed

1280
01:14:38,399 --> 01:14:42,720
Speaker 1: up consulting job Ogle's Asian waitresses while dining out, and

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01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:45,760
Speaker 1: acts condescending toward ji Wan and her sister as he

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01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,640
Speaker 1: deserves all of Umah's fawning autoation. No, George doesn't deserve

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01:14:50,680 --> 01:14:53,319
Speaker 1: anything from her family. Jiwan will make sure of that,

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01:14:53,640 --> 01:14:56,359
Speaker 1: and I agree with her. I have yet, and there's

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01:14:56,359 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: a little bit more, but that's basically I think enough.

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01:14:59,479 --> 01:15:02,760
Speaker 1: I hold on it. Okay, well, yeah, I hold is up,

1287
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 1: and I need to start an asap because now it's due,

1288
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:08,399
Speaker 1: like in sixteen days. You're beating twenty books at the

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01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:12,119
Speaker 1: same time. Some I am it's not. It was an accident. Okay.

1290
01:15:12,279 --> 01:15:14,840
Speaker 1: And I'm about ninety percent done with the current book

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01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: that I'm reading, which is called that She is a Haunting.

1292
01:15:18,239 --> 01:15:22,399
Speaker 1: That's the when you mistakenitely yes, described as this. So

1293
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 1: this one, let me just pull that one up. It

1294
01:15:26,079 --> 01:15:29,520
Speaker 1: is honestly, I like it. It is ya, but it

1295
01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:32,159
Speaker 1: doesn't feel super hitea to me. I think I feel

1296
01:15:32,199 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 1: like the only thing that makes a Hya is the

1297
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 1: character is eighteen. She just graduated from high school. Oh

1298
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:39,319
Speaker 1: and sometimes you just need like a chill white a book.

1299
01:15:39,359 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: You know, nothing wrong with that, but this is not

1300
01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:44,840
Speaker 1: a chill ya book. But this is not chill Okay.

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01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,880
Speaker 1: So she is a haunting. It made me think of

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01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:52,119
Speaker 1: Mexican Gothic in that there's a house that is like haunted,

1303
01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:55,479
Speaker 1: but there's more to the haunting. I love them. Yeah,

1304
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,119
Speaker 1: and there's like things of colonization. Love them. So yeah,

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01:15:59,279 --> 01:16:02,039
Speaker 1: very much like it. Okay, I'm here. Four has the

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01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:04,039
Speaker 1: three point forty rating. I would give it five out

1307
01:16:04,039 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: of five. I've not done yet, though, Okay, Okay, so

1308
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:09,640
Speaker 1: then yeah, this one says a house with the terrifying

1309
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:13,439
Speaker 1: appetite haunts a broken family. In this atmospheric horror, perfect

1310
01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,479
Speaker 1: for fans of Mexican Gothic, which, yes, I agree. Okay,

1311
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: So this one says. When Jade Neugen arrives in Vietnam

1312
01:16:19,920 --> 01:16:22,359
Speaker 1: for a visit with her restranged father, she has one

1313
01:16:22,399 --> 01:16:25,239
Speaker 1: goal survived five weeks pretending to be a happy family

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01:16:25,279 --> 01:16:28,600
Speaker 1: in the French colonial house, Ba is restoring. She's always

1315
01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:31,239
Speaker 1: live to fit in, so she's straight enough. Vietnamea is

1316
01:16:31,359 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: enough American enough. She can get out with the college

1317
01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:36,760
Speaker 1: money he promised, But the house has other plans. Night

1318
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,319
Speaker 1: after night, Jade wakes up paralyzed. The walls exude a

1319
01:16:40,399 --> 01:16:43,600
Speaker 1: thrumbing sound, while bugs leave their legs and feelers in

1320
01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 1: places they don't belong. She finds curious traces of her

1321
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,520
Speaker 1: ancestors in the gardens they once tended, and at night,

1322
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,279
Speaker 1: Jade can't ignore the ghosts of the beautiful bride who

1323
01:16:52,359 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: leaves her cryptic warnings. Don't eat. Neither Ba nor her

1324
01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: sweet sister Lily believe that there's anything strange happening. With help,

1325
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,920
Speaker 1: I'm a delinquent girl, Jade will prove this house, the

1326
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:05,600
Speaker 1: home her family has always wanted, will not rest until

1327
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,439
Speaker 1: it destroys them. Maybe this time she can keep her

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01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: family together. As she roots out the house's rot, she

1329
01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:13,560
Speaker 1: must also face the truth of who she is and

1330
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,119
Speaker 1: who she must become to save them all. Oh I

1331
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 1: love it. I'm like, right, I'm almost wait. I'm I

1332
01:17:18,840 --> 01:17:21,439
Speaker 1: did not alwait, It's already on my tbro. It's already

1333
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:25,159
Speaker 1: on hold at my library. There was a like three

1334
01:17:25,159 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: month wait, and I'm gonna wait. I put an audiobook

1335
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,680
Speaker 1: on hold, another book by Abby Jimenez. I don't think

1336
01:17:32,680 --> 01:17:35,319
Speaker 1: I talked about the book I read listen to because

1337
01:17:35,319 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: it's not spooky, but I really liked it, right, yours truly? No,

1338
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,119
Speaker 1: yours truly? Yeah, okay, it was super cute. So then

1339
01:17:44,159 --> 01:17:46,359
Speaker 1: I put Just for the Summer on a hold, and

1340
01:17:46,399 --> 01:17:51,039
Speaker 1: I'm number nineteen and there's two copies in use. Yeah,

1341
01:17:51,680 --> 01:17:55,039
Speaker 1: it's two weeks weeks long, the hold weeks Yeah okay,

1342
01:17:55,079 --> 01:17:57,319
Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't have spooky recommendations. I do have

1343
01:17:57,399 --> 01:18:00,840
Speaker 1: some updates before we go from this ex long episode,

1344
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: So update number one. We will be recording our book

1345
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,760
Speaker 1: club episode very soon. Right, Yeah, I'm hoping to have

1346
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,119
Speaker 1: those nuts notes nuts, Oh my god, I'm hoping to

1347
01:18:12,199 --> 01:18:17,119
Speaker 1: have those notes nuts on your mind apparently, I'm hoping

1348
01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: to have those notes done by a few days so

1349
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:23,439
Speaker 1: that we can record this and it can be out

1350
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:26,039
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks at the latest. I need

1351
01:18:26,079 --> 01:18:27,680
Speaker 1: to figure out how to do this. But I would

1352
01:18:27,800 --> 01:18:31,479
Speaker 1: like to live stream these on Patreon and have our

1353
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,319
Speaker 1: strains the book club. Yeah. Oh that would be cool,

1354
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:37,239
Speaker 1: but I don't know how to do that yet, so

1355
01:18:37,600 --> 01:18:43,039
Speaker 1: I have to look into that. Yeah, so that's in progress,

1356
01:18:43,079 --> 01:18:45,000
Speaker 1: as in I have to will it be like chat?

1357
01:18:45,039 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: What do you think that's what we could do chat

1358
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:53,960
Speaker 1: chat chat? Yeah, basically, can I get some notes? Yeah?

1359
01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: And then what what was my other update? I actually

1360
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,319
Speaker 1: don't know. We are gonna start doing episodes all in Spanish,

1361
01:19:03,359 --> 01:19:07,760
Speaker 1: that's right. Yeah. We've already done it once for Historia's Unknown,

1362
01:19:08,079 --> 01:19:10,720
Speaker 1: and I think it went pretty well. Someone did message

1363
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:14,600
Speaker 1: at Spooky Tales and said about the Spanish episode, Yeah

1364
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: that we did great. Oh thank you. I was great,

1365
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:24,840
Speaker 1: me too. So we're gonna be doing that once? I said, yeah,

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01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,479
Speaker 1: I see. Now we're gonna be doing it once a

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01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,479
Speaker 1: month on a Spooky Taels. It's gonna be stories. We've

1368
01:19:29,520 --> 01:19:32,560
Speaker 1: already talked about what should we do first? I was

1369
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:36,279
Speaker 1: thinking last Oh, yes, I like mm hm, but also

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01:19:36,319 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 1: I sepos and both are pretty sure together. Yeah yeah,

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01:19:39,039 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: and then the sidings that we have found in then,

1372
01:19:41,079 --> 01:19:44,359
Speaker 1: so all that'd be fun, yeah, combine it. Yeah. So yeah,

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01:19:44,359 --> 01:19:46,279
Speaker 1: that'll probably be the first one. In the next couple

1374
01:19:46,279 --> 01:19:48,279
Speaker 1: of weeks, we'll record it, and from then on we're

1375
01:19:48,279 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 1: gonna be once a month. So I'm excited for that.

1376
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:54,399
Speaker 1: And okay, I think those are my updates. If anyone

1377
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,479
Speaker 1: wants to, If anyone's still here and you want to

1378
01:19:56,520 --> 01:19:59,239
Speaker 1: see our vlog about Denver, it is on Patreon. You

1379
01:19:59,359 --> 01:20:01,520
Speaker 1: can join the three dollars tier and that's when you

1380
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,920
Speaker 1: can see it. You could even do the free trial

1381
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 1: and look at all our videos that were on there,

1382
01:20:05,760 --> 01:20:07,960
Speaker 1: because there's that vlog, and then there's one more from

1383
01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:10,279
Speaker 1: when we went to a hunted theater in Portland together.

1384
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:13,479
Speaker 1: It's short compared to the Denver one. Oh and okay,

1385
01:20:13,640 --> 01:20:16,199
Speaker 1: I think that's it. Other than that, I'm still tired

1386
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:19,439
Speaker 1: from Denver, but still very inspired. Oh yeah, such a

1387
01:20:19,439 --> 01:20:23,560
Speaker 1: good time. Yeah and okay, okay, we've talked about enough.

1388
01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:27,159
Speaker 1: I have to pee and go kempt I mean three times. Yeah,

1389
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:32,119
Speaker 1: breaks I've been holding it for no reason. What was

1390
01:20:32,159 --> 01:20:35,119
Speaker 1: our listeners story about oh, I was gonna tie it

1391
01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: to a chatterw Negative or something like that. Oh okay, I

1392
01:20:37,479 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: was gonna say, don't make makeshift Wiji boards in the

1393
01:20:40,039 --> 01:20:44,640
Speaker 1: middle of school. Yeah no, let's stick to that. Yes, okay, yes,

1394
01:20:45,039 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: and say Swiki will get your ruin next time. Bye.