Speaker 1: Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. It's
Speaker 1: really looking like there are frequencies of different capacities all
Speaker 1: over the place, and it doesn't necessarily have to be
Speaker 1: known frequencies. Our ancestors were so in tune to the
Speaker 1: earth otherwise known as gaya, that they could regularly detect
Speaker 1: geomagnetic anomalies to luric fields bubbling up. We know now
Speaker 1: that they built their temples, their pyramids, and their other
Speaker 1: buildings to capture these frequencies. And it looks like even
Speaker 1: which is very fascinating and actually is the fact that
Speaker 1: they could use symbology, which is sacred geometry, our architectural
Speaker 1: design and placement to tune to tune the frequencies as
Speaker 1: they came up from the earth, passed into the body
Speaker 1: of a pyramid, temple building, and then we're either collected
Speaker 1: in a room or distributed outside into the local environment.
Speaker 1: If you remember when we had Greer on the program,
Speaker 1: John Michael Greer, he wrote extensively about these temples providing
Speaker 1: frequencies for plants, for growth crops, food crops, and you
Speaker 1: know everything around. So this is this is all coming
Speaker 1: to light now both here on destiny as well as
Speaker 1: earth ancients and what what else are we missing? This
Speaker 1: is a whole industry that we're missing that we are
Speaker 1: now coming back towards. If it's true, if as many
Speaker 1: people on this program, as well as earthly agents tell
Speaker 1: us that there was a catastrophic global terminating event that
Speaker 1: wiped the face of Earth clean of all of humanity,
Speaker 1: then it does make sense. Means that we've been rebooting
Speaker 1: since the recovery of those are of that huge event.
Speaker 1: I think it was more than one, though I think
Speaker 1: Randall Carlson talks about this. It's more than one major event.
Speaker 1: It was multiple events over a number of years. Now.
Speaker 1: I've gotten to the point now that I am considering
Speaker 1: the Maya that we are familiar with as post cataclysmic people.
Speaker 1: And what that means is that the people we know
Speaker 1: as the Maya people, we look at the Loinclow, savage,
Speaker 1: bloodthirsty people that the Spanish encountered, those are the survivors.
Speaker 1: They are not the original builders of these ancient places.
Speaker 1: And why do I say that? Because the builders. If
Speaker 1: you are on a high level of consciousness, you're not
Speaker 1: going to get into blood sports. You're not going to
Speaker 1: get be cutting people's head off. You're not going to
Speaker 1: sacrifice human beings for gods. That's asked backwards. That's deed
Speaker 1: generation that's falling apart. So what I'm trying to say
Speaker 1: is that we are beginning to understand, beginning to realize,
Speaker 1: and beginning to test for these frequencies in these buildings.
Speaker 1: And I think that soon, you know, within the next
Speaker 1: few years, we'll understand and have devices to walk into
Speaker 1: these ancient temples to determine if they're all turned on
Speaker 1: or not, or if they're only partially working. Now, when
Speaker 1: you have Mohammed Imbrahem on the program, our Egyptian author,
Speaker 1: guide and expert on ancient Egypt, he is quite animated
Speaker 1: about the fact that only a handful of these ancient
Speaker 1: temples are still functioning. Lydia de Leong is of the
Speaker 1: same belief when we are in Mexico, and when we
Speaker 1: join her this year in Mexico, and I should say
Speaker 1: Guatemala by the way, that's launching December first. It's our
Speaker 1: Ancient Temple Tour of Guatemala. It'll be like seven or
Speaker 1: eight years, seven to nine days in Guatemala when we
Speaker 1: work with her. She has identified a number of temples
Speaker 1: that are active, number of temples. So this is important
Speaker 1: to know. So when we go there, you can kind
Speaker 1: of have a heads up as to how to process,
Speaker 1: how to work, how to engage that energy in the
Speaker 1: same manner that our ancestors did. And again I've said
Speaker 1: this before, it's going to be up to academia, and
Speaker 1: that's the anthropologists and the archaeologists who are out there
Speaker 1: digging and identifying things. It's going to be up to
Speaker 1: them to adapt these energies, adapt this field of science
Speaker 1: into the collective, because if they don't, they'll be left
Speaker 1: by this. They'll be left alone, They'll be left behind
Speaker 1: a very important aspect that our ancestors worked with. This
Speaker 1: is a whole different a brand new way of looking
Speaker 1: at temple technology and also healing, consciousness and general overall
Speaker 1: wellness enhancement, which is what our ancestors did. So that
Speaker 1: that's a it's a big consideration. Now today's program is
Speaker 1: something closer to home. We're going to be working with
Speaker 1: a person who is a sensitive, highly sensitive to the
Speaker 1: level of understanding other frequencies and when we talk about
Speaker 1: other frequencies, and what he'll present today is crossing over
Speaker 1: the afterlife, and we've talked about the afterlife before. In fact,
Speaker 1: the title of his book today is called the Afterlife Frequency,
Speaker 1: and we're going to learn just how when we pass over,
Speaker 1: our soul has a frequency that is detectable. And this
Speaker 1: is marvelous because this is another continuation of the whole
Speaker 1: energetic that we've been presenting, that I have talked about
Speaker 1: for years, and it's all coming to rus. It's all
Speaker 1: now being identified as we become more sensitive, as we
Speaker 1: develop technology to identify it, as we get decodes about
Speaker 1: our ancestors temples, pyramids, and buildings and how they were
Speaker 1: used for consciousness enhancement, probably manifestation techniques and wellness. And
Speaker 1: there's other aspects of that too, fertility transition, death transition
Speaker 1: and things like that, but we'll get that later. So
Speaker 1: I hope that this is making sense to you guys,
Speaker 1: and I'm really you know, you have to listen to
Speaker 1: these different guests and kind of have your own state
Speaker 1: of mind about it, because some people might just be saying,
Speaker 1: you know, this is all woo woo, this is all
Speaker 1: too much. Well, as we dial it in, as we
Speaker 1: pull it in and we process it, it's not woo woo,
Speaker 1: it's all making sense. And we've had a number of
Speaker 1: scientists in here. I mean a lot of people, but
Speaker 1: I you know, years ago I did a program on
Speaker 1: John Burke, and John Burke is the scientists who actually
Speaker 1: use equipment to test these frequencies, to test their strengths,
Speaker 1: to test their reach, to determine how they were adapted. Now,
Speaker 1: he passed away before he could take that much further.
Speaker 1: And because he had a business that was all about
Speaker 1: crop seeds, corn, wheat, whatever, his primary focus in his
Speaker 1: writing was seed enhancement. But one of his oversights was
Speaker 1: that when these pyramids were built, his feeling was that
Speaker 1: they were built for food crops. Well, no way, why
Speaker 1: would they You spend thousands of man hours special artisans
Speaker 1: scientists to build pyramids over to lyric fields that captured
Speaker 1: tullerc energy that was bubbling up from the earth, enhanced it,
Speaker 1: and then distributed it. That would not just be for corn,
Speaker 1: It's for a lot of other things. So fabulous to consider,
Speaker 1: and it's never ending. And you know, this is a
Speaker 1: great time for me because I years ago, almost thirty
Speaker 1: years ago, when I started traveling to Mexico and visiting
Speaker 1: with elders and visiting with daykeepers who told me about
Speaker 1: the functions of these pyramids. I couldn't take it in.
Speaker 1: It was too extreme, it was too fantastic to even
Speaker 1: consider what these these pyramids are machines that are belching
Speaker 1: and distributing missions from the planet Earth. Why why? It
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense And they couldn't explain it either, because
Speaker 1: they're not scientists. And this is what we have to remember.
Speaker 1: The Maya who are left to us following the catastrophic
Speaker 1: event that wiped the planet clean of most of humanity,
Speaker 1: had to relearn from whatever books were left. We only
Speaker 1: know about four codises, four technical books, but I've heard
Speaker 1: rumors for years from different researchers that there were technical
Speaker 1: manuals to run the observatories, to run the pyramids, to
Speaker 1: run a number of the devices in the form of
Speaker 1: buildings that are left to us. So this is all
Speaker 1: coming back, This is all presenting itself crystal clear, and
Speaker 1: we just need to absorb it. We need to adapt
Speaker 1: to it, and we need to understand it. And in
Speaker 1: some cases, and I think this is in the near future,
Speaker 1: we need to build our temples, pyramids, churches, cathedral, whatever
Speaker 1: over these Tilerk fields. And reinvent the wheel, you know,
Speaker 1: start considering energetic healing, not dousing people with medicine, not
Speaker 1: opening them up because you think they need surgery, dousing
Speaker 1: them with energy, revamping their body, realigning themselves, or retuning them,
Speaker 1: returning the body. So something to consider. So today's program
Speaker 1: is the Afterlife frequency, the scientific proof of spiritual contact
Speaker 1: and how the awareness will change your life. And my
Speaker 1: guest is Mark Anthony. Hey, if you're interested in ancient culture,
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Speaker 1: forward slash tours. Science has identified the universe as an
Speaker 1: energy based system. We're just learning all about this quantum theory,
Speaker 1: string theory. We've had Micheo Kaku on the show in
Speaker 1: the past, we've had others talking about this, and my
Speaker 1: guest today is actually taking a part of that. And
Speaker 1: we've had people on the program talking about our ancestors,
Speaker 1: the Egyptians of the Maya, who understood the afterlife. My
Speaker 1: guest today is Mark Anthony. He is a lawyer. He
Speaker 1: is a psychic lawyer. He's known as a psychic lawyer,
Speaker 1: which is interesting. He's a multi generatortional psychic and he's
Speaker 1: also quite a prolific writer. He is a book that
Speaker 1: we're talking about today is called The Afterlife Frequency, The
Speaker 1: Scientific Proof of spiritual Contact and how that awareness will
Speaker 1: change your life. But he also has written other books,
Speaker 1: Never Letting Go and Evidence of Eternity, which deals with
Speaker 1: the afterlife. And we're going to learn today just how
Speaker 1: he has tapped into this frequency and has a message
Speaker 1: for us. So, Hey, Mark, welcome to Destiny. Great to
Speaker 1: see you.
Speaker 2: Thank you clip. It is really great to be here.
Speaker 1: It must have been interesting to be raised in a
Speaker 1: family of mediums or psychics. Talk a little bit about that.
Speaker 1: Were you aware of your gifts as a child and
Speaker 1: hearing voices and seeing spirits and ghosts in the house.
Speaker 1: Talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my family was kind of like the Adams family
Speaker 2: in the neighborhood, if you will. But seriously, both my
Speaker 2: parents had these abilities. My mother was a commercial artist.
Speaker 2: My dad was an aerospace engineer, but before that he
Speaker 2: was an avy seal, and so this runs back four
Speaker 2: generations on both sides of the family. I'm the first
Speaker 2: one to go really public with it. I mean, everybody
Speaker 2: you know knew there was something about our family. And
Speaker 2: when I was about three and a half years old, Cliff,
Speaker 2: I started interacting with my invisible friend. It's not unusual
Speaker 2: for sorry about that were toddler to have invisible friends.
Speaker 2: But when mommy and Daddy can see who I was
Speaker 2: talking to, I remember Mom was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: she's got it, and Dad was like, oh, dear God,
Speaker 2: he's got it.
Speaker 1: So they were Were they communicating openly with the other
Speaker 1: realms in your presence or were they just encouraging you
Speaker 1: as a as their son to develop your gifts.
Speaker 2: That's a you know, that's a really good question and
Speaker 2: nobody's ever asked it like that, So so thank you, Cliff,
Speaker 2: this was something's it's a genetically inherited trait in my family,
Speaker 2: and it's what's known as a recessive trait. It's like
Speaker 2: being left handed. You know, most people in the world
Speaker 2: are right handed, but whether or not you're right handed
Speaker 2: or left handed, that's genetics, okay. And it's the same
Speaker 2: thing with other types of abilities, including this. But when
Speaker 2: you have two parents with the same recessive trait, it
Speaker 2: increases the likelihood when of their kids is going to
Speaker 2: have that trait. And I have an older brother and
Speaker 2: older sister, and they're not mediums, but they are precognitive.
Speaker 2: In other words, they anticipate future events and they get
Speaker 2: feelings about things. But I seem to get the whole package.
Speaker 2: And my mom would talk about her abilities openly. I mean,
Speaker 2: she was careful about who she would talk about them too,
Speaker 2: but my dad kept it kind of under wraps. And
Speaker 2: so when I was three and a half, that's when
Speaker 2: I started seeing spirits. When I was four, I literally died,
Speaker 2: I flatlined and was resuscitated. I had a near death experience.
Speaker 2: And then by the time I was five, I had
Speaker 2: started first grade and my dad's family, they were very
Speaker 2: conservative Pennsylvania Baptists. My mother's family, they were Italian Catholics,
Speaker 2: and the Italians looked at this as a gift from God,
Speaker 2: the gift of second to sight. You know, my grandfather
Speaker 2: was from Italy, and in fact, my maternal great grandmother, Giovanna,
Speaker 2: was known in the Italian community of Italy in New
Speaker 2: York and North New Jersey as the woman who knows things,
Speaker 2: and fact Catholic church officials would go and meet with
Speaker 2: her all the way up to cardinals. Wow, and what's
Speaker 2: really cool clip is. Back in twenty sixteen, PBS did
Speaker 2: a special called The Italian Americans. It was a two
Speaker 2: night special and they actually did an entire segment on
Speaker 2: my maternal great grandmother Giovanna, and they actually referenced her
Speaker 2: psychic abilities and it was really cool seeing that it's
Speaker 2: like every commercial. One of my cousins is Collein. Did
Speaker 2: you see that? You know, we're all tuned in. But
Speaker 2: what my dad told me when I was starting school,
Speaker 2: he sat me down and he said, Mark, do not
Speaker 2: talk about these things to anyone except your mother or me,
Speaker 2: because people who see things others don't will get taken away.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, let me tell you. That really scared me.
Speaker 2: And you could see I was scared and I was
Speaker 2: like shaking, and I remember he held me. Your dad
Speaker 2: was a tough guy, but he was an affectionate dad.
Speaker 2: He was a great father. Excuse me, and he I
Speaker 2: understood years later why he was so worried. And if
Speaker 2: I can die, digress just a bit. My dad had
Speaker 2: four siblings, three sisters and a brother. One of his
Speaker 2: sisters was also a medium like he was, as was
Speaker 2: their mother, Isabel and the eternal grandmother Grace. And up
Speaker 2: in this little town in Pennsylvania that they lived, you know,
Speaker 2: everybody knew that. You know, you know, people would women
Speaker 2: would come over on Thursday afternoons under the auspices of
Speaker 2: playing canasta, but they were actually getting readings from my
Speaker 2: grandmother and my great grandmother. But my father sister, Marjorie,
Speaker 2: she married this religious zealot and I'm being kind there,
Speaker 2: I'd prefer to call him a religious fanatic. And he
Speaker 2: was afraid of her abilities. He felt that they were,
Speaker 2: you know, you know, somehow evil or demonic. And the
Speaker 2: problem with people that yank verses out of the Bible
Speaker 2: is that there are there are some passages that say,
Speaker 2: you know, don't be a medium. But that would be
Speaker 2: in Deuteronomy eighteen, verses ten through twenty two. But later
Speaker 2: in the passage it says, if basically what the prophet,
Speaker 2: which is Bible speak for a medium says is true,
Speaker 2: then it's sanctioned by God. Okay. So in the very
Speaker 2: same passage that people want to condemn us, it also
Speaker 2: sanctions us. And also in the New Testament. One of
Speaker 2: my favorite books is First Book of Corinthians. Chapters twelve twelve,
Speaker 2: Verses four through twelve lists the gifts that God bestows
Speaker 2: on all of us, two of which prophecy, which is
Speaker 2: foreseeing the future. The other is discernment of spirits, which
Speaker 2: is what we do. Okay. So anyway, Marjorie's married to
Speaker 2: this religious extremist and one day he's getting ready to
Speaker 2: go to work. He was a machinist and he worked
Speaker 2: at a steel plan in Harrison, Pennsylvania, and she didn't
Speaker 2: want him going to work that day. She had a
Speaker 2: terrible feeling and she'd get it in her stomach, and
Speaker 2: she begged him not to go. And they got into
Speaker 2: a big argument and said, fine, fine, you and that
Speaker 2: voodoo stuff of years. Well, that day cliff a crane
Speaker 2: was lifting thousands of pounds of steel beams, and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden the cable snapped and they fell, and
Speaker 2: it crushed the machine shop that he worked in and
Speaker 2: killed everybody in it. Oh boy, Yeah, had he been
Speaker 2: at work, he would have been killed. Well. Instead of
Speaker 2: being grateful, what he did is he conspired with an
Speaker 2: unscrupulous psychiatrist. He had Marjorie diagnosed to schizophrenic. They literally
Speaker 2: sent an ambulance to their house. Guys in white coats forcibly,
Speaker 2: removed her from her home, put her in a strait jacket.
Speaker 2: You know, this is like twenty years before I was born.
Speaker 2: This is like in the nineteen fifties. Took her to
Speaker 2: an insane asylum where she was subjected to an electroshock.
Speaker 2: There are for over six months, and it damaged her
Speaker 2: brain so much. Marjorie never again talked about spirit seeing
Speaker 2: the future. She used to be like a bubbly, pleasant woman,
Speaker 2: and after that she was just really withdrawn. So I
Speaker 2: didn't know this obviously when I was five years old.
Speaker 2: I found this out as I became a teenager, because
Speaker 2: I'd start hearing people talk about Aunt Marjorie, and then
Speaker 2: I heard that she had died. I never met her
Speaker 2: in this world. So now I understand why my father
Speaker 2: was so worried because historically mediums have been vilified in
Speaker 2: some parts of the world. In Middle Eastern countries like
Speaker 2: Saudi Arabia and Iran, certainly Afghanistan, people with these abilities
Speaker 2: are put to death. Yeah, and so there are still
Speaker 2: elements that are very extreme in the West. Even though
Speaker 2: there's people that scoff at it, it is being studied,
Speaker 2: and I've been part of these studies. I've been studied
Speaker 2: in part of studies on mediums like how are we
Speaker 2: getting the information? Yeah, part of afterlife science. So it
Speaker 2: has been a very interesting life and anyway, so that
Speaker 2: is yes, my parents were like, it's okay to be
Speaker 2: a medium, but just talk about it to us. And
Speaker 2: now I understand because in their era, Yeah, looked up
Speaker 2: in an insane asylum.
Speaker 1: Talk about what you see, Mark would I mean, it's
Speaker 1: so natural for you. I would imagine that if there
Speaker 1: is a ghost or a recently departed soul who you
Speaker 1: are able to see or maybe they and we'll talk
Speaker 1: about this, they recognize that you can perceive them. So
Speaker 1: they're trying to communicate with us. What as a child,
Speaker 1: as a younger person. It's great to have parents and
Speaker 1: relatives who are like, don't worry, this is who you are.
Speaker 1: You can accept this, don't be afraid. This is what
Speaker 1: you're experiencing. But talk about beginning to receive this information
Speaker 1: through these souls.
Speaker 2: What happens when I open up my brain to frequency?
Speaker 2: Because people say, well, do they come to you all
Speaker 2: the time? Well, they can, but because I run into
Speaker 2: or I cross paths with inexperienced mediums, these young mediums, Oh,
Speaker 2: spirits are round me all the time. And it's like,
Speaker 2: well that's great, but do you leave the doors and
Speaker 2: windows of your house open and unlocked twenty four seven?
Speaker 2: Why why would you do that to your brain and
Speaker 2: to your psyche? And it's not that there's evil spirits
Speaker 2: gonna get you. It has to do with setting boundaries prams.
Speaker 2: You let the spirits know I'm either doing this or
Speaker 2: I'm not. Why, Because if you're open all the time,
Speaker 2: you're actually degrading the quality of the contact. Also, you're
Speaker 2: depleting yourself mentally, and it can be mentally, emotionally and
Speaker 2: physically and actually spiritually exhausting. So I limit the amount
Speaker 2: amount of time that I spend doing readings per day.
Speaker 2: It's no more than two readings per day. And because
Speaker 2: that way, it maintains the quality. And because this ability
Speaker 2: is like a battery, it runs down and has to
Speaker 2: be replenished. You know, It's just like athletic ability. And
Speaker 2: you get an athlete, they can play a couple of
Speaker 2: you know, games of basketball. Well, when you're done, you
Speaker 2: gotta you gotta rest, you gotta recharge. And so when
Speaker 2: I open up to frequency, what will happen is I
Speaker 2: get the sensation it's kind of tingly, and that's electromagnetic energy,
Speaker 2: which we we're going to talk about in a bit.
Speaker 2: And so when a spirit comes to me, what spirits
Speaker 2: do is they send a wave of EM energy, electromagnetic
Speaker 2: frequency that goes into my brain, and then my brain's
Speaker 2: EM field interphases with the spirits, and the the EM
Speaker 2: frequency or wave gets converted into recognizable concepts based on
Speaker 2: my memories, feelings, and cultural associations. Initially, when a spirit
Speaker 2: comes in, first I sense the gender. Then I get
Speaker 2: an idea of their relationship to you. So if I'm
Speaker 2: doing a reading on someone, I feel that they're on
Speaker 2: your level. That's your generation, sibling, cousin's spouse, friend below
Speaker 2: your level, child, niece, nephew above your level, parent, aunt, uncle,
Speaker 2: so on and so forth. Yeah, they don't have to
Speaker 2: be relatives. So like a lady on the mother level.
Speaker 2: Could be a teacher, boss, professor, stepmother, mother in law
Speaker 2: that you may have had at some point during your life,
Speaker 2: or it could be a friend that was older. Okay,
Speaker 2: then they're going to start transmitting to me all types
Speaker 2: of information. I will see things, hear things, feel things,
Speaker 2: and know things, and then I start describing it to
Speaker 2: the recipient so that they can confirm it. So that,
Speaker 2: in a nutshell, is how things come. People always want
Speaker 2: to know, well, do you see them standing in the room. Well,
Speaker 2: I can, but it's a lot of energy for the
Speaker 2: spirit to make that form of manifestation, and it's very
Speaker 2: draining on me. So most of the time they'd rather
Speaker 2: just send the information right into my brain and the
Speaker 2: way I see them would be the way you would
Speaker 2: see it, vivid memory. So so Cliff, for you and
Speaker 2: for all the listeners, Statue of Liberty, you see her
Speaker 2: in your mind's eye. M hm, that's how I see spirits.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, you're you're you're a lawyer, but you also,
Speaker 1: do readings talk about your gifts as a lawyer, can
Speaker 1: you enhance a because I mean in your book you
Speaker 1: talk about being a criminal defense attorney. So for the
Speaker 1: different roles, does it come into play in your profession
Speaker 1: where you can actually access data that is valuable to
Speaker 1: a case. Talk about that, because I would think that
Speaker 1: you're dialing in. You're dialing in.
Speaker 2: I have so many stories just for everyone's edification. My
Speaker 2: life's work is now focused on the spiritual. So so I'm
Speaker 2: doing you know, readings, and I appear as a lecturer
Speaker 2: at afterlife conferences ancient mysteries conferences as well. But when
Speaker 2: I was practicing law full time, you know, it's part
Speaker 2: of my skill set, I would start picking up on
Speaker 2: things and like one time I was doing. I started
Speaker 2: off as a prosecutor, then I became a criminal defense lawyer.
Speaker 2: Then I went into complex civil litigation with special particular
Speaker 2: emphasis on brain injury. And that's when I started seeing
Speaker 2: the parallel between the human physiology and spirit communication. In
Speaker 2: other words, there is a bonafide reason and explanation how
Speaker 2: this happens and why this happens. It's not pocus pocus
Speaker 2: or magic. It's based on frequency, energy transfer, and human physiology.
Speaker 2: So I was as a criminal offense attorney. I had
Speaker 2: this one case and my client was this big bruiser
Speaker 2: and he'd got into a fight with this guy at
Speaker 2: a bar and my client beat the daylights out of
Speaker 2: the other guy. So the other guy filed charges for
Speaker 2: aggravated battery. And at the risk of sounding facetious, it's
Speaker 2: not unusual in criminal cases, like when there's mutual combat,
Speaker 2: the loser is the one that files charges. So it's
Speaker 2: the beginning of the trial. It's jury selection, and jury
Speaker 2: selection is extremely important because you have to have a
Speaker 2: fair and impartial jury, or at least you know that's
Speaker 2: that's what is supposed to happen. And so the judge
Speaker 2: will bring in they will bring in a panel of
Speaker 2: prospective jurors, and both sides get to ask questions, and
Speaker 2: then you can eliminate people till you get down to
Speaker 2: in this instance, would have been six jurors in one alternate.
Speaker 2: In bigger felonies would be twelve jurors and maybe two
Speaker 2: or three alternates. We saw that like in the oj
Speaker 2: case and the Mennendez And so the prosecutor went through
Speaker 2: his questioning and then it was my turn to ask
Speaker 2: the prospective jurors questions. In this part of the trial,
Speaker 2: Jerry's election is known as wadir, which is a French
Speaker 2: term which means to speak the truth. And this is
Speaker 2: before any witnesses or evidence. So I stand up and
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, I get those tangles that I
Speaker 2: get when a spirit comes through, and I'm thinking, this
Speaker 2: is not really when I want to be doing this.
Speaker 2: I kept getting drawn to this one woman and she
Speaker 2: was I remember, she was beautiful. She had these big
Speaker 2: dark eyes and beautiful olive complexion, and I felt a
Speaker 2: female energy around her and this tightening on my neck.
Speaker 2: So I knew that the female spirit, there was something
Speaker 2: going on with her breathing, ability to breathe prior to passing.
Speaker 2: And I was getting like this hyperventilating sensation. And so
Speaker 2: now it's my turn to ask the questions. One of
Speaker 2: the standard questions because this was a crime of violence, okay,
Speaker 2: So I asked the jor, has anyone on the jury,
Speaker 2: or perhaps one of your family members, ever been the
Speaker 2: victim of a violent crime? Well, lo and behold, this
Speaker 2: woman starts to shake, The tears start rolling down her cheeks,
Speaker 2: and she said a year ago, my sister was in
Speaker 2: a foreign country when an escaped mental patient strangled her,
Speaker 2: dismembered her body, and threw it in a dumpster like
Speaker 2: she was trash. Oh, boy, Cliff, nobody in law school
Speaker 2: taught me how to deal with this situation. And I'm
Speaker 2: standing there. I mean, you could hear a pin drop
Speaker 2: on the core, even the prosecutor. It was a real pain.
Speaker 2: It was I couldn't think of anything. And I heard
Speaker 2: my client like, dude, what are you doing like this?
Speaker 2: And then I'm seeing I talk about you know, do
Speaker 2: you see I'm seeing her sister coming through. Literally I
Speaker 2: had a foot in both worlds. And if anyone wants
Speaker 2: to find out what happened, you're gonna have to get
Speaker 2: my book, Never Letting Go. That's my first book because
Speaker 2: I write about that and Never Letting Go. But but
Speaker 2: and and and it's it's it's it's an amazing thing
Speaker 2: that happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: The thing is that was part of my skill set
Speaker 2: as an attorney. And you know, I had a reputation
Speaker 2: for this guy's a bit weird and he seems to
Speaker 2: know things he shouldn't do, and uh, you know, and
Speaker 2: and having opposing counsel. Being a little bit afraid of
Speaker 2: you is not a bad thing when you're.
Speaker 1: A I mean to know that you're carrying along a
Speaker 1: bunch of tools that transcends normal living situations. So that's
Speaker 1: pretty cool. I want to get into this after life
Speaker 1: frequency a bit and our ancestors, and we know now
Speaker 1: that the Egyptians and the Maya were very much focused
Speaker 1: on after life, yes, the death, the transition into heaven
Speaker 1: and whatever you want to call it. Why is this
Speaker 1: important for us? The after life frequency? And talk about
Speaker 1: everything being a frequency, and this is an understanding in
Speaker 1: this book. So in other words, you're saying to the reader,
Speaker 1: understand that we are all energy, right, but take it
Speaker 1: to the next level and tell us why the afterlife
Speaker 1: frequency is so important?
Speaker 2: First off, why is belief in and afterlife important? Saint
Speaker 2: Thomas Aquinas, who was a great medieval pologian, said, for
Speaker 2: those who believe, who believe, no proof is necessary. For
Speaker 2: those who do not, none maybe possible. The twenty first
Speaker 2: century astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, one of my heroes, said,
Speaker 2: the beauty of science is you don't have to believe
Speaker 2: it or to be true. And for too long faith
Speaker 2: and science have been in this corner. We have faith,
Speaker 2: and in this corner we have science dinginging, you know,
Speaker 2: and the two were supposedly diametrically opposed. But since the
Speaker 2: advent of quantum physics, it appears that faith and science
Speaker 2: in many respects, particularly when it comes to energy and
Speaker 2: the eternal nature of energy, are on the same side. Actually,
Speaker 2: they're not diametrically opposed at all. Every great belief system,
Speaker 2: from Hinduism five thousand years ago, through the ancient Egyptians,
Speaker 2: through Zoroastrianism, through Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Native American spirituality,
Speaker 2: all teach that the soul, the who and what we are, breaks,
Speaker 2: the body comes into, the body moves on after the
Speaker 2: body dies. We know from the second law of thermodynamics
Speaker 2: in physics that energy is neither created nor destroyed, only
Speaker 2: transferred from one form to another. We know from neuroscience
Speaker 2: the study of the human brain, and I spent a
Speaker 2: lot of my law practice on head injury cases. In
Speaker 2: studying the human brain, the brain's only two percent of
Speaker 2: the body's weight, but it uses over twenty percent of
Speaker 2: its electrical energy. And in science, science is split into
Speaker 2: two basic fields. You have the physical sciences, which is physics, engineering, chemistry,
Speaker 2: and then you have the biological sciences, you know, biology, botany, microbiology,
Speaker 2: and for centuries it's like, well they're separate, but are they?
Speaker 2: Because both fields of science recognize that everything's made of molecules,
Speaker 2: which in turn are made of atoms, which in turn
Speaker 2: are composed of smaller particles trons, protons and neutrons, which
Speaker 2: in turn are composed of a smaller particle of a
Speaker 2: quantum which is pure electro magnetic energy, and so on.
Speaker 2: The quantum level. There is no difference between the physical
Speaker 2: and the biological sciences. And what that means is everything
Speaker 2: in the material universe. You me, the chairs were sitting
Speaker 2: on the radio waves, the shows being broadcast on the
Speaker 2: light we see the rings of Saturn and beyond are
Speaker 2: at the subatomic level, all made from the same form
Speaker 2: of electromagnetic energy. And people say to me, well, that's
Speaker 2: really hard to wrap my head around. You think, I mean,
Speaker 2: it did take Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Werner, Heisenberg, Louis
Speaker 2: de Brogley, Niel's Borr to figure this stuff out. Oh
Speaker 2: and Maleva Einstein. I always like to give her credit
Speaker 2: because Einstein's wife worked with him on that, but he
Speaker 2: didn't credit her in the paper. So anyway, But at
Speaker 2: any rate, we know that every thing on the subatomic
Speaker 2: level is made of electromagnetic energy, which is neither created
Speaker 2: nor destroyed, only transferred. So I developed the term the
Speaker 2: electro magnetic soul, and I introduced the term in the
Speaker 2: afterlife frequency to explain what we really are in twenty
Speaker 2: first century terms, which is pure consciousness, meaning a soul
Speaker 2: or a spirit that is electro magnetic eternal energy. So
Speaker 2: when we physically die, and I think the worst thing
Speaker 2: is to think that someone you loved so much disintegrated
Speaker 2: into nothingness. That's why from ancient times until now people
Speaker 2: have grieved and mourned. I've done a lot of work
Speaker 2: with the mysteries and the secrets of Teuton Common's tomb,
Speaker 2: and what's really fascinating, there's so many fascinating things about it.
Speaker 2: But when Howard Carter, the initial archaeological team, they started
Speaker 2: opening up the coffins, there was a bouquet of flowers
Speaker 2: on each of the coffins. Inside the three coffins. Somebody
Speaker 2: loved him, Somebody left flowers there, Somebody was hurting when
Speaker 2: he died. And you see this throughout history up to today.
Speaker 2: And so we now know that energies neither created nor destroyed,
Speaker 2: only transferred from one form to another when we die.
Speaker 2: Think of your EMS, your electromagnetic soul, as a drop
Speaker 2: of water, and that when we physically die, you got
Speaker 2: to realize your brain did not create the EMS. It
Speaker 2: only hosts it, the way your computer hard drive hosts
Speaker 2: the programs on it. You know, clip, did your computer
Speaker 2: create Windows?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, okay, yeah, our computers don't create the data that's
Speaker 2: on it. There are formatting a host. Guess what that's
Speaker 2: what Our brain is. Brain's sophisticated in It governs perception
Speaker 2: and runs our body. But it didn't create who we are.
Speaker 2: It merely hosts R. E. M. A.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 1: our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly
Speaker 1: with my guest today, Mark Anthony, speaking on his newest book,
Speaker 1: The Afterlife. Frequency will be right back. Yeah, the.
Speaker 2: Brother dies.
Speaker 1: Could it?
Speaker 2: No doubt an set back? You can tug it one
Speaker 2: more time. I didn't get too dam man a game, No, no, no.
Speaker 1: My guest today is author Mark Anthony, who has written
Speaker 1: a book called The Afterlife Frequency, The Scientific Proof of
Speaker 1: Spiritual Contact and how that awareness will change your life.
Speaker 1: We're looking at the soul as a frequency and energetics
Speaker 1: in the afterlife. I want you to explain if you can,
Speaker 1: because you're very good at breaking this down. Does the
Speaker 1: soul have a frequency that we can measure? Is there
Speaker 1: a tool that we can use to measure as souls
Speaker 1: entering the body and then releasing it. Because we're going
Speaker 1: to talk about near death experience, which is a fundament.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, we're getting there. There's a lot of paranormal investigations,
Speaker 2: and I do a lot of paranormal investigations. I'm part
Speaker 2: of a number of teams and I'm going to be
Speaker 2: on an upcoming episode on Discovery Channel of a new
Speaker 2: show called Destinations of the Damn that they brought me
Speaker 2: in as a medium and one of the other guests
Speaker 2: was Gary Goalka, who invented the spirit box, which picks
Speaker 2: up the voices of spirits. I also worked with doctor
Speaker 2: Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona, and doctor Gary
Speaker 2: Schwartz is working on technology known as the soul Phone,
Speaker 2: which we'll do, which does exactly what you're talking about.
Speaker 2: It picks up on the presence of spirits and they're
Speaker 2: refining it to where they're getting messages from spirits. Wow,
Speaker 2: so the technology is Yeah, last was so fascinating because
Speaker 2: over well, actually about one hundred years ago, the last
Speaker 2: thing Thomas Edison was working on was what he called
Speaker 2: the spirit phone, and he said, I believe I can
Speaker 2: make a device sensitive enough to detect incarnate discarnate intelligence,
Speaker 2: meaning spirits. But see he died before he could finish it.
Speaker 2: And what doctor Schwartz has the benefit of is the
Speaker 2: last century of sophisticated electronics and quantum physics. So we
Speaker 2: are developing the ability to detect the presence of spirits
Speaker 2: and near death experience research has really brought a lot
Speaker 2: to the table in this as well.
Speaker 1: So the Egyptians had the Book of the Dead. They
Speaker 1: were so dialed into the afterlife that it seems that
Speaker 1: they probably were using these discarnate souls and people who
Speaker 1: had been around thousands of years to get data and
Speaker 1: to live maybe a more harmonious life. Is it your
Speaker 1: belief that we should be more in contact with the
Speaker 1: afterlife souls?
Speaker 2: Yes, And you know, people say, well, you know, do
Speaker 2: I have a relationship with God? You know, with the
Speaker 2: infinite intelligence we all do. We're constantly connected to and
Speaker 2: receiving messages from spirits. Question is our way recognizing the
Speaker 2: con And you know the thing is, people say, well,
Speaker 2: they'll they'll scoff at me, but then they'll have a
Speaker 2: dream where their grandmother comes and talks to them and
Speaker 2: they think it's real because it was. Because how far
Speaker 2: do you want me to go with this?
Speaker 1: I want to hear it all, buddy, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Inside the brain, in the center of the forehead, if
Speaker 2: you go about four and a half inches behind the
Speaker 2: center of the forehead, there's the pineal gland in the brain. Now,
Speaker 2: the pineal glands the most mysterious, misunderstood, smallest organ in
Speaker 2: the body, yet the most sophisticated, between the size of
Speaker 2: a grain of rice and a small lime of being
Speaker 2: a Recent discoveries have found calcite and magnetite crystals, chips
Speaker 2: in it or fragments. Yeah, it governs our brain, weigh frequencies,
Speaker 2: our circadian rhythms. One we're hungry, when we're tired. One
Speaker 2: we're you know, you know, everything, when we want to sleep.
Speaker 2: And it also regulates our perception of light, which is
Speaker 2: really fascinating because light is how people perceive the spiritual
Speaker 2: energy of God, both visually and in visions that are
Speaker 2: transmitted by spirits or spiritual entities. And the pineal gland
Speaker 2: regulates our five main brainwave frequencies Gamma, beta, alpha, theta,
Speaker 2: and delta. Gamma. Think you're on Final Jeopardy and you
Speaker 2: got to get that question, or you're taking a calculus exam.
Speaker 2: You're just like cranking your brain at full throttle. That's
Speaker 2: gamma beta activities of daily living. That's the way you
Speaker 2: know wakeful state. Alpha for all of our Southern California listeners,
Speaker 2: that's the gritty baby state, you know, that's where you
Speaker 2: know you start to relax, and Theta is when you
Speaker 2: go into the dream state, very RESTful sleep. Delta very
Speaker 2: little brainwave activity, but it's extremely important because that's where
Speaker 2: you heal and where children grow. So that's like healing
Speaker 2: cellular regeneration. But let's go back to the alpha theta border,
Speaker 2: which you're talking about spirits being measured. Each of these
Speaker 2: brainwave frequencies, we measure them through the amount of hurts,
Speaker 2: and it's at eight hertz which is the alpha theta border,
Speaker 2: which is where psychic and mediumistic activity occur. So what happens, Cliff,
Speaker 2: is when people go to sleep and they get at
Speaker 2: that eight hurtz, spirits can see that they align their
Speaker 2: frequency from a higher vibration. You get a frequency match,
Speaker 2: and that's where spirit communication occurs. Conversely, it can happen
Speaker 2: in the awake state when people feel somebody around them.
Speaker 2: But what we don't understand is why people like me
Speaker 2: can go from beta to alpha theta within seconds involuntarily.
Speaker 2: And the studies indicate there may be the suggestion is
Speaker 2: that there may be something somewhat different about our pineal gland.
Speaker 2: But you know, we're all good at different things. I mean,
Speaker 2: I can swim, but I'm never gonna be on Michael Phelps.
Speaker 2: I can play guitar, but I'm never gonna be a
Speaker 2: you know, Keith Urban or a Brad Paisley. You know,
Speaker 2: I can do math, but I'm never gonna be a
Speaker 2: Max tech Mark or a Stephen Hawking. Thing is, people
Speaker 2: are simply good at doing different things right, And this
Speaker 2: happens to be, you know, part of my skill set, so.
Speaker 1: In your feeling intuitively, and maybe it's his research as well.
Speaker 1: Do you think the Egyptians were so dialed in to
Speaker 1: the death side of life after life that they had
Speaker 1: regular communication and maybe help themselves evolve from these higher
Speaker 1: levels that weren't in the body anymore. But we're downloading
Speaker 1: volumes of data so that they could exceed their perhaps
Speaker 1: physical goals.
Speaker 2: Would it would perceive, so it would perceive, so it
Speaker 2: would seem so based on the perception. I've done a
Speaker 2: lot of work with Egyptology and the Egyptians, particularly in
Speaker 2: the aristocrats and the pharaoh's tombs. They would have chapels
Speaker 2: where people would come and bring offerings to the one
Speaker 2: who's died. And when you look at you know, and
Speaker 2: we were given a gift by the discovery of King
Speaker 2: Tuton Common's tomb, and what a lot of people don't understand,
Speaker 2: Tuton Commons tomb was, in my opinion, the greatest archaeological discovery,
Speaker 2: certainly in Egypt and maybe of all time. There's over
Speaker 2: fifty five hundred objects found in the tomb, you know,
Speaker 2: and everyone's the gold and the treasure. But that was
Speaker 2: in nineteen twenty two. Seventeen years later, in nineteen thirty nine,
Speaker 2: farther north along the Nile River. At the excavation of
Speaker 2: the city of Tannis, three pharaohs tombs, they were all
Speaker 2: in the same structure, were found intact. Now, these pharaohs
Speaker 2: were from the latter part of Egypt. Egypt was on
Speaker 2: the downswing, and they found six hundred objects in there,
Speaker 2: including solid silver coffins. And silver was more valued by
Speaker 2: the Egyptians than gold because they had to import it.
Speaker 2: And the reason nobody knows about this, or you know,
Speaker 2: except for people like me and you that study this
Speaker 2: is because the story broke in nineteen thirty nine as
Speaker 2: Hitler was invading Poland, so the world press was focused
Speaker 2: on that. And what's interesting is the archaeologist he was French,
Speaker 2: Pierre monteign I want to give him credit. In Raiders
Speaker 2: of the Lost Art Indiana Jones's nemesis Renee Bellick, his
Speaker 2: character George Lucas based him on Pierre Montet Wow, okay,
Speaker 2: And even though he was kind of the bat or
Speaker 2: kind of was the bad guy, he still had a
Speaker 2: hanash and a swaftness about him. But be that as
Speaker 2: it made. Pierremonte made one of the greatest archaeological discoveries
Speaker 2: of all time, and the Egyptians used to preserve the
Speaker 2: body because they believed in resurrection, not reincarnation. And then
Speaker 2: you're like, well, okay, so they take a body, they
Speaker 2: remove the brain, throw it away, they take the heart out,
Speaker 2: mummify those, put all the organs, wrap it up, poor
Speaker 2: ungeons on it, basically glue it into a coffin and
Speaker 2: then several other coffins and under granite sarcophagus and put
Speaker 2: it underground. So how are they supposed to resurrect? It
Speaker 2: was a spiritual resurrection, not necessarily a physical insurrection, despite
Speaker 2: all the horror movies of hyperactive mummies popping out and
Speaker 2: you know, running around and wreaking havoc on people. But
Speaker 2: put the Egyptians and I actually saw in Pera. I
Speaker 2: was in the city of Oya Taya to Toambo Okay,
Speaker 2: you know what. Okay, Yes, in the Sacred Valley, and
Speaker 2: the people that lived there speak Quechua, which is the
Speaker 2: language that the Incas spoke, and they're the direct descendants
Speaker 2: of the Incas and the Inca Empire, I mean, just
Speaker 2: real quick spanned a good chunk of the eastern half
Speaker 2: of of South America, and when the Spanish invaded and
Speaker 2: conquered it. It made Spain wealthy beyond belief, the amount
Speaker 2: of gold and silver and emeralds and rubies that they
Speaker 2: sacked and looted from the Inca Empire. But at Oya
Speaker 2: tay Totambo, that was one of the very few places
Speaker 2: where the Incas actually defeated the Spanish army. So to
Speaker 2: this day they're like, we defeated the Spanish, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's like really cool when you meet them. So
Speaker 2: I was there as part with a part of an
Speaker 2: archaeological team and we were studying the Inca Empire and
Speaker 2: ancient culture, and our guide introduced us to this woman
Speaker 2: selling corn. In the corn they grow in the Sacred Valley.
Speaker 2: The ears are only about six or seven inches long,
Speaker 2: and they got these huge kernels on them, and it
Speaker 2: is the most delicious corn, I mean, unbelievable. They grill it.
Speaker 2: It is sweet and smoky. I mean, if you ever,
Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost worth the trip to South in
Speaker 2: America to eat this corn. But this woman, they you know,
Speaker 2: she knew that I was a medium. She picked up
Speaker 2: on it, and she invited me into her home, and so,
Speaker 2: you know, we graciously accepted, and so we had our
Speaker 2: translator and we had this woman, and there was like
Speaker 2: two or three other people with me, and we walked
Speaker 2: into her home and it was probably the building they
Speaker 2: lived in was at least four hundred years old, and
Speaker 2: it was on you know, the cobblestone streets that the
Speaker 2: Incas had built with a drainage system that still works.
Speaker 2: I wonder how much of our you know, public drainage
Speaker 2: system is going to work in four or five hundred years.
Speaker 2: So we walk in. There's a hearth, there's a pot
Speaker 2: on the stove. It's kind of smoking in there. You
Speaker 2: could see older folks sitting in some chairs with grandparents,
Speaker 2: little kids playing on the floor. Looked like her husband
Speaker 2: came walking up. And then we stopped because right above
Speaker 2: the hearth there are two human skulls. And we're like, oh,
Speaker 2: and and and they were waiting for our reaction. They
Speaker 2: knew you're like, oh, the gringoes. Let's see how the
Speaker 2: gringoes react. But it wasn't horrifying, and through our translator,
Speaker 2: she said, these are the skulls of our ancestors. I
Speaker 2: think there were some great grandparents.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And I said, is this like the Day of the
Speaker 2: Dead in Mexico? And she smiled and she goes, every
Speaker 2: day is the Day of the Dead. Wow, And she
Speaker 2: explained that in their belief system, and even though technically
Speaker 2: they're halflic you know, because when the Spanish came in,
Speaker 2: they converted people at the point of a sword. In
Speaker 2: this part of Peru, there's a melding of the ancient
Speaker 2: income beliefs with Christianity. And we see that with the
Speaker 2: Day of the Dead celebration in Central America too, because
Speaker 2: the Day of the Dead was the Catholic Church compromised
Speaker 2: to celebrate it on All Souls Day, which is forever second.
Speaker 2: But in Latin America, in the southwest US, it's kind
Speaker 2: of a whole week of partying, which, hey, you know,
Speaker 2: it's it's like Halloween with a Latin Latin flavor to it.
Speaker 2: Although the tradition is at least a thousand years predates
Speaker 2: Columbus by a thousand years. And so here in Peru
Speaker 2: they said that the skulls of the ancestors brought forth
Speaker 2: the spirits who would watch over and protect the family.
Speaker 2: There's a parallel between what they're doing there and what
Speaker 2: the Egyptians were doing. Then when you go through, particularly
Speaker 2: in countries that have been traditionally Catholic in Europe, Spain, Portugal, Italy,
Speaker 2: of course, and even in areas that Greek Orthodox, the
Speaker 2: the more ancient Christian religions, a lot of the cathedrals
Speaker 2: will have relics. They may have a skull or a
Speaker 2: bone from a saint, and it's kind of the same
Speaker 2: thing that this has a mystical power that draws a
Speaker 2: protective energy around them. And I'm not criticizing, I'm not justifying,
Speaker 2: I'm not insulting. I'm merely explaining. I've spent Yes, I'm
Speaker 2: an attorney, but I've also spent my life studying theology, archaeology, philosophy, history, biology, neurology,
Speaker 2: and quantum physics. That's why they you know, I'm known
Speaker 2: as the psychic explorer because I work in a lot
Speaker 2: of related different fields, but related fields, because I see
Speaker 2: how this all ties together. So I know that was
Speaker 2: the lengthy explanation, but I hope and answers your question.
Speaker 1: No, it's excellent because my listeners are very much into
Speaker 1: ancient history and the various civilizations that work with after
Speaker 1: life communication. Let's bring in the near death experience. How
Speaker 1: does that work with after life frequency. We know that
Speaker 1: people who have experienced, passing through, going to the place
Speaker 1: we recognize as heaven. We'll meet relatives, ancestors, guides, whatever,
Speaker 1: and then come back right. So, how does the after
Speaker 1: life frequency affect the near death experience?
Speaker 2: My electromagnetic soul theory provides a explanation based on sound
Speaker 2: scientific principles or near death experiences, as well as the
Speaker 2: existence of a soul spirit, communication, deathbed visions, out of
Speaker 2: body experiences, and even reincarnation, because once again, energy is
Speaker 2: neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another.
Speaker 2: Think of your brain, okay, your brain's the hosting device.
Speaker 2: Think of your electromagnetic soul as a drop of water.
Speaker 2: When we physically die, that drop of water leaves the
Speaker 2: brain and it plunges into the eternal sea of souls
Speaker 2: that I call the collective consciousness. And that way you're
Speaker 2: energetically linked with other spirits, link with other spirits. But
Speaker 2: sometimes that drop bounces back, and what happens is people
Speaker 2: will leave their body and there appears to be and
Speaker 2: in all the International Association for Near Death Studies, in
Speaker 2: addition to the Near Death Experience Research Foundation and the
Speaker 2: Science and Medical Network out of the UK, those are
Speaker 2: in ions the Institute of Noetic Sciences. Those are the
Speaker 2: four of the biggest institutions that study this, and there
Speaker 2: are others. So if I've left anybody out, it's, you know,
Speaker 2: only for lack of time. There seem to be phases,
Speaker 2: because phases of what happens during the near death experience.
Speaker 2: But they occur regardless of your religious beliefs. Drugs and
Speaker 2: alcohol don't appear to have a factor one way or
Speaker 2: the other. They can happen to anybody. Age, gender, socioeconomic
Speaker 2: status don't matter. So when somebody dies, their ems, their
Speaker 2: consciousness leaves their body. Generally there's the they may kind
Speaker 2: of wander around a hospital because many times they'll hear
Speaker 2: what people are saying in another room. I got a
Speaker 2: lot of good stories on that one, which really cool.
Speaker 2: Then after the initial separation from the body, there's going
Speaker 2: through the tunnel into the light. And then once they
Speaker 2: go into the light, they will encounter people who are dead,
Speaker 2: and they only encounter people who are dead. Now, I'm
Speaker 2: going to come back on that one, and then if
Speaker 2: the experience lasts long enough, the next phase is going
Speaker 2: deeper into the light. Remember I said, the pineal gland
Speaker 2: is how we perceive the spiritual energy of God and
Speaker 2: encountering a pervasive love, a calmness, a serenity, and a
Speaker 2: beautiful presence and a voice, and this is where it
Speaker 2: will be. You have to go back, and then people
Speaker 2: are pulled back into their bodies. Now, the critics say
Speaker 2: this is the side effect of a dying brain. If
Speaker 2: it is there was. This is one of several studies
Speaker 2: conducted by the iconic doctor Kenneth Ring, one of the
Speaker 2: founders of Ians. He did a study on Okay, there
Speaker 2: was a woman in Japan, young woman, I guess she
Speaker 2: was in her twenties. She was in surgery at the hospital,
Speaker 2: and she died on the operating table. And she went
Speaker 2: through all those phases and encountered her sister in the light,
Speaker 2: and she was resuscitated, and her parents were there, and
Speaker 2: she said, I saw my sister, But how can that
Speaker 2: be because she is not dead. And her parents burst
Speaker 2: into tears and said, she was killed in a car
Speaker 2: accident last night.
Speaker 1: Oh boy.
Speaker 2: This woman didn't know that she was in surgery and
Speaker 2: she encountered her sister's spirit. How's that a fact of
Speaker 2: a dying brain? Something just going on inside of your head?
Speaker 2: Doctor Kenneth Ring did studies on people who were blind
Speaker 2: since birth and had near death experiences, and they came
Speaker 2: back talking of visual accounts of things that they encountered. Now,
Speaker 2: if they were blind since birth, and it's a side
Speaker 2: effect of a dying brain, wouldn't the brain be drawing
Speaker 2: on things that are in it instead of creating something
Speaker 2: it never knew? Then? One of my favorite Kimberly Clark Sharp,
Speaker 2: and I'm very privileged to know her, and I'm looking
Speaker 2: forward to seeing her at the IANS conference this year.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking at their fiftieth anniversary conference. I've been honored
Speaker 2: to be one of the keynote speakers.
Speaker 1: Are you're coming up north here to do that? Huh?
Speaker 1: I mean fr Francisco.
Speaker 2: It'll be in Chicago.
Speaker 1: Oh, in Chicago this year, Okay, Yeah.
Speaker 2: And she died on an operating table, and the next
Speaker 2: thing she knew, she was hovering above the table and
Speaker 2: she was going by as her spirit was rising. She
Speaker 2: could see the surgeon and the surgical staff working to
Speaker 2: try to revive her. As she drifts past the light fixture,
Speaker 2: she said, boy, this is really dusty. I have to
Speaker 2: tell the nurse about this. Then she goes whoa, I'm
Speaker 2: out of my body. And then the next thing she knows,
Speaker 2: I know, I know, just thought that was funny. And
Speaker 2: then the next thing she said, I was hovering above
Speaker 2: the hospital and I saw the rain gutters and at
Speaker 2: the corner of the building there was this blue sneaker,
Speaker 2: this blue tennis shoe, stuck in the rain gutter. All right,
Speaker 2: So she gets resuscitated and she starts talking about there's
Speaker 2: a you know, she's talking about the blue sneaker, and
Speaker 2: the surgeon said, get two people up on the roof
Speaker 2: right now. He wanted two people to see exactly where
Speaker 2: she said it was was a blue sneaker stuck in
Speaker 2: the rain gutter. And I remember I spoke about that
Speaker 2: at one Irons conference in the next year. She came
Speaker 2: up to me and get me a blue sneaker, which
Speaker 2: I thought was really really cool of her to do.
Speaker 2: But the thing is, through near death experience research, we're
Speaker 2: seeing that the consciousness to who and what you are
Speaker 2: survives physical death, and not only does it survive, but
Speaker 2: this electromagnetic quantum field stays coherent.
Speaker 1: We're going to take a short commercial break to allow
Speaker 1: our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly
Speaker 1: with my guest today, Mark Anthony, discussing his new book
Speaker 1: on sole frequency called The Afterlife Frequency. We'll rejoin you shortly.
Speaker 1: My guess today is author Mark Anthony. He is a lawyer,
Speaker 1: but he is also a well known psychic and he's
Speaker 1: written a new book on soul energy or frequency called
Speaker 1: The Afterlife Frequency, The Scientific Proof of Spiritual Contact and
Speaker 1: how that awareness will change your life. Okay, but this
Speaker 1: is fine. I mean, I know I still know him.
Speaker 1: I haven't talked him in the years. Doctor Raymond Moody,
Speaker 1: he used to do conferences up here in San Francisco
Speaker 1: when we did Whole Life Expo. But the thing is, yes,
Speaker 1: near death experience, we recognize the soul doesn't die, blah
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah. But why where are we taking
Speaker 1: it to the next level? Mark, And I'm talking about
Speaker 1: what the Egyptians did. We don't understand how in step
Speaker 1: they were with the afterlife. And a while ago I
Speaker 1: was mentioning, I believe it helped them evolve. If they
Speaker 1: can download the geniuses of thousands of years in the past,
Speaker 1: we use the technology. There's a lot of strangers about
Speaker 1: the Egyptians. They have advanced technology embedded in their system.
Speaker 1: We don't know how that came about.
Speaker 2: No, we don't. We still don't know how old the
Speaker 2: Sphinx is. We can do a whole presentation, a whole
Speaker 2: show just on the Geezel plateau. We still don't know
Speaker 2: how the pyramids were constructed. And now that science is
Speaker 2: showing that there are additional chambers within the Great Pier,
Speaker 2: I always figured there were. Why would they built this
Speaker 2: massive thing just to have one or two rooms in it?
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: Apparently there's chambers all over the place. The question is
Speaker 2: how do we get to them? And I understand one
Speaker 2: they opened it up and sands started pouring out. They
Speaker 2: close it because it's like, is this ballast for the
Speaker 2: You know, I got to be careful when you say that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but you also have to look at you know, yes,
Speaker 2: the Egyptians did amazing things, but look where we live.
Speaker 2: Look at the amazing technological advances that we have, and
Speaker 2: the people that have come up with these and invented these.
Speaker 2: Where are they getting that knowledge from? So they very
Speaker 2: well maybe drawing upon the wisdom of the collective consciousness.
Speaker 2: Many times when I do readings, Sorry about that, I
Speaker 2: don't know why my computer makes those noises, but there
Speaker 2: must be some spirits. But I'll be doing a reading
Speaker 2: and a spirit will come forward and start giving information
Speaker 2: that far exceeded the scope of anything that they knew
Speaker 2: here in this world. I was doing a reading for
Speaker 2: this woman, and it was a telephone reading. I do
Speaker 2: you know most of my private readings are telephone readings,
Speaker 2: which are just as accurate as in person. It all
Speaker 2: has to do because they move at the speed of light,
Speaker 2: just like the phone call does. And all of a sudden,
Speaker 2: I said, you have a son, because your mother's spirit
Speaker 2: is talking about your son. She goes, yes, get his
Speaker 2: heart checked. There's something there's some type of congenital problem
Speaker 2: with his heart. This is really important. Well, there's nothing
Speaker 2: wrong with my son, I said, look, I'm delivering the message.
Speaker 2: Well a year later and I'd forgotten about that because
Speaker 2: I do a lot of readings. I was doing a
Speaker 2: phone reading for a gentleman and at the end of
Speaker 2: the reading, he said, you probably don't remember, but a
Speaker 2: year ago you did this reading for my wife and
Speaker 2: her mother came through and said, get our son's heart checked.
Speaker 2: There's a congenital defect. I said, now that you mention it,
Speaker 2: I do recall that he said. We just returned from
Speaker 2: the Cleveland Clinics Heart Center where our son had surgery,
Speaker 2: and the surgeon said, I don't know how you knew
Speaker 2: about this because they went in to their doctor and said,
Speaker 2: please please do a scam and all of a SUDDENY go,
Speaker 2: oh my god, he's got this heart defect. He said.
Speaker 2: If it wasn't for what came up in the reading,
Speaker 2: our son would have died. But we're able to get
Speaker 2: it corrected. Now. I don't know these things, but the
Speaker 2: spirits do, and that's why, Like you also have to realize,
Speaker 2: the Egyptians also didn't have the societal hang ups. And yes,
Speaker 2: they lived in a theocracy where religion, you know, was
Speaker 2: in government or tied together, but spirituality and the spirits
Speaker 2: of supernatural entities were part of their lives. And at
Speaker 2: the risk of being critical of Christianity and christ is
Speaker 2: was about as cool as they get, not about it
Speaker 2: as he was as cool as it gets. Talk about
Speaker 2: spiritual people say mediums are not a god. Okay, well,
Speaker 2: then read the Transfiguration where Jesus takes disciples to the
Speaker 2: top of a mountain all sudden, he glows and Moses
Speaker 2: and Elijah appear on either side of him. Hello, mediumship.
Speaker 2: I mean he got Moses and Elijah to come through,
Speaker 2: and that's pretty pretty impressive on any standard. But the
Speaker 2: Egyptians didn't have religious fanatics telling them no no, no, no,
Speaker 2: no no no about everything. Instead, they were closer to
Speaker 2: nature and the possibilities of it. And one of the lecturers,
Speaker 2: one of my Ancient Mysteries lectures is entitled Rulers, Royals,
Speaker 2: Psychics and Spirits, Mystics behind the Thrones of Power, and
Speaker 2: I take the audience on a journey through time to
Speaker 2: leaders from ancient Egypt all the way up to one
Speaker 2: third of US presidents who have had psychic advisors behind
Speaker 2: the scenes. We've been there the whole time, just we've
Speaker 2: been in the closet, so to speak.
Speaker 1: So what do you see the future as a medium
Speaker 1: and also a person who is defining these frequencies? Do
Speaker 1: you see at some point that we returned to our
Speaker 1: roots and begin using our ancestors who are not in
Speaker 1: physical form anymore as a reference.
Speaker 2: I see that. I've been a member of the Shift
Speaker 2: Network's Ancestral Healing Summit programs many times and connecting with
Speaker 2: the spirits of ancestors can bring a lot of healing,
Speaker 2: can bring a lot of I mean, I do readings
Speaker 2: for people, and in fact, last week I was doing
Speaker 2: a ring for a woman and her mother came through
Speaker 2: and she goes, I don't want to talk to her.
Speaker 2: She like obviously had a lot of issues, but her
Speaker 2: mother was trying to apologize, and after the client settled down,
Speaker 2: delivered some very important messages, and this spirit explained that
Speaker 2: when she was a girl, she was you know, physically
Speaker 2: and psychologically abused, you know, wounded people, wound people, and
Speaker 2: so her mother, you know, never had the never had
Speaker 2: any psychological treatment or anything to help her be angry,
Speaker 2: vicious person, and instead she took it out on her daughter,
Speaker 2: who was my client. And it was really a beautiful
Speaker 2: session where there was such resolution coming through. For me,
Speaker 2: the most humbling, the most humbling connections are when I
Speaker 2: do readings for parents who've lost children, and how the
Speaker 2: child's spirit will come through to help the parent make
Speaker 2: sense of things and help the parent to find dinner peace. Because,
Speaker 2: like you said, from ancient times till now, could there
Speaker 2: be a worse loss than losing a child? There isn't.
Speaker 2: There is no pain greater than that, and spirit communication
Speaker 2: is an important therapeutic step in the journey through grief.
Speaker 2: You said you're in the San Francisco area. I'll be
Speaker 2: at the New Living Expo in May in San and Raphael,
Speaker 2: so hopefully we'll get a chance to meet.
Speaker 1: Well, hell yeah, I'm actually doing a panel discussion on
Speaker 1: ancient civilizations.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, I'll be there. Hey, if you
Speaker 2: need another person on the panel.
Speaker 1: I might put you on it. Mark S count me in.
Speaker 2: I would love to do that. And I've got two
Speaker 2: online light circles over February fourteenth and fifteenth online for Valentine's.
Speaker 2: The reason we were doing it then is because a
Speaker 2: broken heart doesn't have to last forever in spear communication,
Speaker 2: very healing. And then on the twentieth of februaryl be
Speaker 2: on Great Day Houston, the CBS Morning show KHOU in Houston.
Speaker 2: Get free tickets and I'll be doing readings for audience members.
Speaker 2: And then the twenty first, twenty second, twenty third, and
Speaker 2: twenty fourth, I'll be at body Mind and all of
Speaker 2: Houston in public mediumship events and.
Speaker 1: Doing you're not doing conscious life down where you're at
Speaker 1: in La.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida, Florida.
Speaker 1: I thought you were Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Well I'm in I'm in La a lot.
Speaker 2: And then in March, I'm going to be at the
Speaker 2: Sedona Ascension Retreat and I'll be giving a talk called Reincarnation.
Speaker 2: The subtitle is Deja who who were you? Before you
Speaker 2: were you? And I'll also be doing spirit communication events.
Speaker 2: So I want to invite all the listeners to sign
Speaker 2: up for my newsletter, which is at afterlifefrequency dot com
Speaker 2: And if you go to my website you can find
Speaker 2: out about and I do one on one readings. You
Speaker 2: can sign up for those. We've got the light circles
Speaker 2: coming up, and if you can get tickets to all
Speaker 2: the events that I'm going to be at. Also, I
Speaker 2: write for Best Holistic Life magazine and it's it's such
Speaker 2: a beautiful, beautiful publication that helps people in so many ways.
Speaker 2: And every Thursday, I have a call in show, The Psychic.
Speaker 2: In the doc, my co host is the amazing doctor Pat,
Speaker 2: doctor Pat Vasili, and people call in and I do
Speaker 2: readings for them in conjunction. Doctor Pat helps you figure
Speaker 2: out the significance and what it means. And we just
Speaker 2: won Best Radio Show of the Year second year in
Speaker 2: a row.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And yeah. So you can find out about all of
Speaker 2: that by visiting afterlifefrequency dot com.
Speaker 1: So the books called the Afterlife Frequency. My guest today's
Speaker 1: been Mark Anthony Mark, who should buy this book? Who
Speaker 1: did you write it for? Talk about that for a minute.
Speaker 2: I wrote this book for anyone who wants to take
Speaker 2: the next step. Spirit communication is not focus pocus or magic.
Speaker 2: It's real. It's based on sound scientific principles. So it's
Speaker 2: based on people who want a logical explanation of the
Speaker 2: existence of an afterlife, of the existence of a soul,
Speaker 2: of the reality of spirit communication, near death experiences and
Speaker 2: out of body experiences reincarnation. But it's also for people
Speaker 2: who are suffering with grief and post traumatic stress disorder. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I do. Because I'm a male medium, I work a
Speaker 2: lot with men. I've had a lot of military people
Speaker 2: come to me for readings, and men need to learn
Speaker 2: how to grieve. You know, we are are Traditionally, We've
Speaker 2: been socialized to suppress our feelings. And my dad, the toughest,
Speaker 2: bad assest guy ever known, the Navy seal taught me
Speaker 2: a real man is never afraid to cry for someone
Speaker 2: he loved who dies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent, excellent, mark fantastic, much success on this. So
Speaker 1: you've already had it out for a while. And do
Speaker 1: you have a YouTube channel? People people can go and
Speaker 1: see you. I do.
Speaker 2: And that's also you know, when you go to my website,
Speaker 2: it's all there. You'll you'll see logo to click on. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I've got YouTube. I've got a number of Facebook channel
Speaker 2: I mean pages and groups. Okay, yeah, so it's all
Speaker 2: at afterlifefrequency dot com.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's wonderful that you're so active. Some people will
Speaker 1: just write a book and go I'm done, but you're
Speaker 1: like totally plugged into the whole phenomenon.
Speaker 2: Well, it's just you know, I am so honored and
Speaker 2: so humbled. Number one, For whatever reason, I've been given
Speaker 2: these gifts, and I decided to go into law. I
Speaker 2: was originally going to go into the clergy, but I
Speaker 2: thought there was too many rules in regulations.
Speaker 1: I don't see on.
Speaker 2: A law go figure. But that gave me access to
Speaker 2: so many different scientific fields and study because you have
Speaker 2: to learn all that to prove your case. Plus I
Speaker 2: was on my feet every day talking to groups of people,
Speaker 2: taking complex concepts and learning how to explain them in
Speaker 2: you know, ways that anyone can relate to it. And
Speaker 2: that's very important. And so I thank God every day,
Speaker 2: and I do believe in God. I don't believe God's
Speaker 2: a neurotic white guy sitting on a throne with a
Speaker 2: scepter smiting people. That's a bunch of medieval European imagery.
Speaker 2: But I believe that the energy that flows through all
Speaker 2: of us, It's like what Nikola Tesla said, what one
Speaker 2: man or what one person calls God, another calls the
Speaker 2: laws of physics. And I believe that on the quantum level,
Speaker 2: not only are we all interconnected, but that interconnectedness and
Speaker 2: intelligence flows through it, which you can consider to be God.
Speaker 2: And people say, well, how do I find God? You
Speaker 2: already have? Yeah, all connected? You all you have that connection.
Speaker 2: And I don't tell people how to believe. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, when I hear people are my religions the
Speaker 2: one and only way, and it's like, yeah, so what
Speaker 2: you're telling me is that the infinite intelligence that spans
Speaker 2: distances we can't even fathomed to your particular viewpoint. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that's how you want to believe. That's fine, But
Speaker 2: remember true spirituality is about peace, love, compassion, healing, and
Speaker 2: understanding ego edging God out. When people take religion to
Speaker 2: justify anger, bigotry, hatred, and violence, all they're doing is
Speaker 2: hijacking a religion or a moral justification for their ego
Speaker 2: driven agenda. And that's how you tell the difference.
Speaker 1: Fantastic, Mark's been fun. Do it again sometime.
Speaker 2: I look forward to it, Cliff.
Speaker 1: So there you have it in a nutshell, The soul
Speaker 1: has a frequency, is an energetic entity, which is what
Speaker 1: we're all about. You know. I wanted to expand on
Speaker 1: that a little bit. I have been thinking about all
Speaker 1: this so called alien interaction, the UAP under Identified Aerial
Speaker 1: Phenomenal Phenomenon Sightings formerly known as the UFO community, and
Speaker 1: those people who are actually interacting with alien beings. I
Speaker 1: should add one other group too. This is the people
Speaker 1: who channel aliens like Bashar, who apparently channels an alien
Speaker 1: from another dimension or something and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it is. I have a feeling, I have
Speaker 1: a sense that we're actually hybrids, and I am one
Speaker 1: of these people that is from believes that I come
Speaker 1: from another planetary system, not recently, but on a soul
Speaker 1: level and the energy from the soul. And this kind
Speaker 1: of comes in a little bit from my Hindu studies.
Speaker 1: It's universal. In other words, you don't just stay in
Speaker 1: the Earth's cosmos. You can leave and go to other
Speaker 1: planetary systems. And when you begin considering that and the
Speaker 1: interests that the childlike interests that the soul has, it
Speaker 1: makes sense that you could have lifetimes and other systems,
Speaker 1: other planetary systems, other creatures, be human like or whatever.
Speaker 1: You know, the sky's the limit. If you live on
Speaker 1: a gaseous planet, your lungs, your your physiology is going
Speaker 1: to be different. If you live on a planet that
Speaker 1: is low low oxygen or high oxygen, you're gonna look different,
Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna function differently. So the point being
Speaker 1: is that if you are part alien and part human,
Speaker 1: you're gonna see things differently. I have seen things differently
Speaker 1: from for a long time. I felt like an outcast
Speaker 1: from one of the kids. Sometimes I felt like an
Speaker 1: outcast now and I was like, wow, what's your story. Well,
Speaker 1: the truth of the matter is is that we're not
Speaker 1: all of us are continually being incarnated here on Earth.
Speaker 1: We have many, many, many lifetimes. Some people believe there's
Speaker 1: several thousand lifetimes that we have. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: funny because I have felt and I have a number
Speaker 1: of friends, and maybe you feel the same way. I
Speaker 1: feel out of place a lot, and I'm very active
Speaker 1: socially and politically, and not politically in terms of raising
Speaker 1: a banner, but studying who's in charge, how the systems
Speaker 1: are working under this person, Democrat, Republican, independent, Soviet Union's
Speaker 1: opinion of the Americans, the European, Chinese, and other countries,
Speaker 1: a parent opinion of the Americans. And so it's a
Speaker 1: case study. I have this, but I have this feeling
Speaker 1: that there's more to it, and I want My feeling
Speaker 1: is it's a hybridization, and so you're not your parents,
Speaker 1: your mother's not being impregnated by an alien, but your soul,
Speaker 1: the part of you that is the functioning awareness, consciousness slash,
Speaker 1: multi dimensional being is and has had other incarnations on
Speaker 1: other alien planets. People are beings that we would perhaps
Speaker 1: freak out looking at, and that might be one of
Speaker 1: the reasons that that we don't have contact because some
Speaker 1: of these creatures, these beings, these aliens may look scary,
Speaker 1: but we got to cross over. We had to cross
Speaker 1: over from this fear of you know, interaction to interact.
Speaker 1: So and I think it's happening gradually, just not fast
Speaker 1: enough for my taste. So, but getting back to the
Speaker 1: frequency of the soul and the hybridization and the interdimensions
Speaker 1: of a soul. I think that's why a lot of
Speaker 1: us are very much open to having alien contact, having
Speaker 1: ets coming down. I think it's why we're interested in
Speaker 1: space and in other possible planets. And that's why if
Speaker 1: you have recently incarnated, if you've been in another from
Speaker 1: another planetary system, and you've recently incarnated into an Earth body,
Speaker 1: it can be strange. And you know, I think there's
Speaker 1: a lot that can be explained of people who are antisocial,
Speaker 1: perhaps have emotional and psychological problems. We you know, we
Speaker 1: douse them with drugs, do brain electrodes and burn things
Speaker 1: out on the brain to make those people function. But
Speaker 1: if we were a sophisticated society who could test people
Speaker 1: and say, oh, they come from planet X and they
Speaker 1: are incarnating for the first time, they could need they
Speaker 1: could use a little help, just so much we don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, And this is where I was thinking about
Speaker 1: Mark's book, The after Life Frequency. If we could somehow
Speaker 1: discern the frequency of a person and discover what's the
Speaker 1: influence which lifetimes are influencing the current lifetimes, I think
Speaker 1: we would we would have much more healthy people. So
Speaker 1: that's my two cents of that, So all right, so
Speaker 1: thank you for that. By the way, Mark will be
Speaker 1: at the New Living Expo which is in May May
Speaker 1: ninth through the eleventh in San Rafell, which is in
Speaker 1: northern California, flying the SFO and you drive across the
Speaker 1: Golden Gate Bridge to get to San Rafel. I will
Speaker 1: be moderating a planet on ancient civilizations with Mark Anthony.
Speaker 1: Let's see who else, Kirk, Mark van Kirklin, Oh, Mike Ricksecker.
Speaker 1: I'm missing a few others. Anyhow, New Livingexpo dot com
Speaker 1: and look at their website and you can get the details.
Speaker 1: I think the panel is at Sunday the eleventh in
Speaker 1: the panel room should be staying room only. Oh, I
Speaker 1: know some of the other I think there's a there's
Speaker 1: a couple more people that have been added and I
Speaker 1: can't remember their names. They haven't they haven't sent me
Speaker 1: who they are, but they are. It's gonna be like
Speaker 1: full house. So always fun to have people like Mark
Speaker 1: Anthony on the on the panel, I said, Mark, it's
Speaker 1: been Van Kirkwick from Expedition X. He'll be on the
Speaker 1: panel too. He'll be giving a talk there on these
Speaker 1: amazing bulls that they've found in Egypt. So anyhow, New
Speaker 1: Living Expo it is again the ninth through the eleventh
Speaker 1: of May, and check it out. If you're in San Francisco,
Speaker 1: stop by and say hi, shake your hand. Anyhow, think
Speaker 1: about that. All right, that's it for this show. I
Speaker 1: want to thank my guest today, Mark Anthony and his
Speaker 1: newly released book The Afterlife Frequency as always, the team
Speaker 1: of Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who makes destiny happen.
Speaker 1: You guys are rock all right, take care of you
Speaker 1: well and we will talk to you next times.
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