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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Destiny. Now here's your host, Cliff Dunning. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really looking like there are frequencies of different capacities all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place, and it doesn't necessarily have to be

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<v Speaker 1>known frequencies. Our ancestors were so in tune to the

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<v Speaker 1>earth otherwise known as gaya, that they could regularly detect

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<v Speaker 1>geomagnetic anomalies to luric fields bubbling up. We know now

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<v Speaker 1>that they built their temples, their pyramids, and their other

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<v Speaker 1>buildings to capture these frequencies. And it looks like even

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<v Speaker 1>which is very fascinating and actually is the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>they could use symbology, which is sacred geometry, our architectural

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<v Speaker 1>design and placement to tune to tune the frequencies as

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<v Speaker 1>they came up from the earth, passed into the body

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<v Speaker 1>of a pyramid, temple building, and then we're either collected

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<v Speaker 1>in a room or distributed outside into the local environment.

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<v Speaker 1>If you remember when we had Greer on the program,

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<v Speaker 1>John Michael Greer, he wrote extensively about these temples providing

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<v Speaker 1>frequencies for plants, for growth crops, food crops, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know everything around. So this is this is all coming

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<v Speaker 1>to light now both here on destiny as well as

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<v Speaker 1>earth ancients and what what else are we missing? This

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole industry that we're missing that we are

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<v Speaker 1>now coming back towards. If it's true, if as many

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<v Speaker 1>people on this program, as well as earthly agents tell

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<v Speaker 1>us that there was a catastrophic global terminating event that

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<v Speaker 1>wiped the face of Earth clean of all of humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>then it does make sense. Means that we've been rebooting

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<v Speaker 1>since the recovery of those are of that huge event.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was more than one, though I think

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<v Speaker 1>Randall Carlson talks about this. It's more than one major event.

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<v Speaker 1>It was multiple events over a number of years. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten to the point now that I am considering

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<v Speaker 1>the Maya that we are familiar with as post cataclysmic people.

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<v Speaker 1>And what that means is that the people we know

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<v Speaker 1>as the Maya people, we look at the Loinclow, savage,

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<v Speaker 1>bloodthirsty people that the Spanish encountered, those are the survivors.

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<v Speaker 1>They are not the original builders of these ancient places.

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<v Speaker 1>And why do I say that? Because the builders. If

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<v Speaker 1>you are on a high level of consciousness, you're not

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<v Speaker 1>going to get into blood sports. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>get be cutting people's head off. You're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>sacrifice human beings for gods. That's asked backwards. That's deed

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<v Speaker 1>generation that's falling apart. So what I'm trying to say

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<v Speaker 1>is that we are beginning to understand, beginning to realize,

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<v Speaker 1>and beginning to test for these frequencies in these buildings.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that soon, you know, within the next

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<v Speaker 1>few years, we'll understand and have devices to walk into

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<v Speaker 1>these ancient temples to determine if they're all turned on

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<v Speaker 1>or not, or if they're only partially working. Now, when

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<v Speaker 1>you have Mohammed Imbrahem on the program, our Egyptian author,

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<v Speaker 1>guide and expert on ancient Egypt, he is quite animated

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that only a handful of these ancient

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<v Speaker 1>temples are still functioning. Lydia de Leong is of the

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<v Speaker 1>same belief when we are in Mexico, and when we

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<v Speaker 1>join her this year in Mexico, and I should say

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<v Speaker 1>Guatemala by the way, that's launching December first. It's our

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<v Speaker 1>Ancient Temple Tour of Guatemala. It'll be like seven or

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<v Speaker 1>eight years, seven to nine days in Guatemala when we

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<v Speaker 1>work with her. She has identified a number of temples

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<v Speaker 1>that are active, number of temples. So this is important

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<v Speaker 1>to know. So when we go there, you can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of have a heads up as to how to process,

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<v Speaker 1>how to work, how to engage that energy in the

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<v Speaker 1>same manner that our ancestors did. And again I've said

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<v Speaker 1>this before, it's going to be up to academia, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's the anthropologists and the archaeologists who are out there

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<v Speaker 1>digging and identifying things. It's going to be up to

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<v Speaker 1>them to adapt these energies, adapt this field of science

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<v Speaker 1>into the collective, because if they don't, they'll be left

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<v Speaker 1>by this. They'll be left alone, They'll be left behind

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<v Speaker 1>a very important aspect that our ancestors worked with. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a whole different a brand new way of looking

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<v Speaker 1>at temple technology and also healing, consciousness and general overall

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<v Speaker 1>wellness enhancement, which is what our ancestors did. So that

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<v Speaker 1>that's a it's a big consideration. Now today's program is

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<v Speaker 1>something closer to home. We're going to be working with

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<v Speaker 1>a person who is a sensitive, highly sensitive to the

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<v Speaker 1>level of understanding other frequencies and when we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>other frequencies, and what he'll present today is crossing over

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<v Speaker 1>the afterlife, and we've talked about the afterlife before. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>the title of his book today is called the Afterlife Frequency,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to learn just how when we pass over,

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<v Speaker 1>our soul has a frequency that is detectable. And this

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<v Speaker 1>is marvelous because this is another continuation of the whole

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<v Speaker 1>energetic that we've been presenting, that I have talked about

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<v Speaker 1>for years, and it's all coming to rus. It's all

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<v Speaker 1>now being identified as we become more sensitive, as we

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<v Speaker 1>develop technology to identify it, as we get decodes about

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<v Speaker 1>our ancestors temples, pyramids, and buildings and how they were

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<v Speaker 1>used for consciousness enhancement, probably manifestation techniques and wellness. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's other aspects of that too, fertility transition, death transition

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<v Speaker 1>and things like that, but we'll get that later. So

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<v Speaker 1>I hope that this is making sense to you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm really you know, you have to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>these different guests and kind of have your own state

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<v Speaker 1>of mind about it, because some people might just be saying,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, this is all woo woo, this is all

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<v Speaker 1>too much. Well, as we dial it in, as we

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<v Speaker 1>pull it in and we process it, it's not woo woo,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all making sense. And we've had a number of

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<v Speaker 1>scientists in here. I mean a lot of people, but

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<v Speaker 1>I you know, years ago I did a program on

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<v Speaker 1>John Burke, and John Burke is the scientists who actually

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<v Speaker 1>use equipment to test these frequencies, to test their strengths,

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<v Speaker 1>to test their reach, to determine how they were adapted. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>he passed away before he could take that much further.

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<v Speaker 1>And because he had a business that was all about

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<v Speaker 1>crop seeds, corn, wheat, whatever, his primary focus in his

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<v Speaker 1>writing was seed enhancement. But one of his oversights was

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<v Speaker 1>that when these pyramids were built, his feeling was that

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<v Speaker 1>they were built for food crops. Well, no way, why

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<v Speaker 1>would they You spend thousands of man hours special artisans

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<v Speaker 1>scientists to build pyramids over to lyric fields that captured

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<v Speaker 1>tullerc energy that was bubbling up from the earth, enhanced it,

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<v Speaker 1>and then distributed it. That would not just be for corn,

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<v Speaker 1>It's for a lot of other things. So fabulous to consider,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's never ending. And you know, this is a

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<v Speaker 1>great time for me because I years ago, almost thirty

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<v Speaker 1>years ago, when I started traveling to Mexico and visiting

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<v Speaker 1>with elders and visiting with daykeepers who told me about

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<v Speaker 1>the functions of these pyramids. I couldn't take it in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was too extreme, it was too fantastic to even

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<v Speaker 1>consider what these these pyramids are machines that are belching

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<v Speaker 1>and distributing missions from the planet Earth. Why why? It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't make sense And they couldn't explain it either, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not scientists. And this is what we have to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>The Maya who are left to us following the catastrophic

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<v Speaker 1>event that wiped the planet clean of most of humanity,

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<v Speaker 1>had to relearn from whatever books were left. We only

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<v Speaker 1>know about four codises, four technical books, but I've heard

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<v Speaker 1>rumors for years from different researchers that there were technical

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<v Speaker 1>manuals to run the observatories, to run the pyramids, to

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<v Speaker 1>run a number of the devices in the form of

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<v Speaker 1>buildings that are left to us. So this is all

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<v Speaker 1>coming back, This is all presenting itself crystal clear, and

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<v Speaker 1>we just need to absorb it. We need to adapt

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<v Speaker 1>to it, and we need to understand it. And in

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<v Speaker 1>some cases, and I think this is in the near future,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to build our temples, pyramids, churches, cathedral, whatever

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<v Speaker 1>over these Tilerk fields. And reinvent the wheel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>start considering energetic healing, not dousing people with medicine, not

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<v Speaker 1>opening them up because you think they need surgery, dousing

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<v Speaker 1>them with energy, revamping their body, realigning themselves, or retuning them,

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<v Speaker 1>returning the body. So something to consider. So today's program

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<v Speaker 1>is the Afterlife frequency, the scientific proof of spiritual contact

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<v Speaker 1>and how the awareness will change your life. And my

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<v Speaker 1>guest is Mark Anthony. Hey, if you're interested in ancient culture,

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<v Speaker 1>ancient history, the buildings, the temples, the structures that are

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<v Speaker 1>left to us from our ancestors, consider joining me in

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<v Speaker 1>Turkey June twenty second through July second of this year.

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<v Speaker 1>We are going to visit some of the oldest places

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<v Speaker 1>on the planet and get the up close and personal

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to see them not only through the eyes of

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<v Speaker 1>the local archaeologists who are excavate these places, but from

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<v Speaker 1>a perspective that no one else can have, which is

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<v Speaker 1>these are old, old prehistory in our face. What makes

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth Ancients Grand Turkey Tour fabulous opportunity is that

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<v Speaker 1>we don't just visit. We also check in with the

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<v Speaker 1>local archaeological groups. We go to the museums that contain

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<v Speaker 1>the latest evidence of artifacts, of sculptures, of buildings, and

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<v Speaker 1>we get a sense of just how old and how

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<v Speaker 1>important our ancestors were. It really looks like go Beckley Teppe,

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<v Speaker 1>Carahan Teppe and these other sites including darren Kuru and Cappadocia.

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<v Speaker 1>We're rebooting sites following the Great devastation. These are places

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<v Speaker 1>that people would go and relearn how to live, how

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<v Speaker 1>to farm, how to do animal husbandream which is cultivate animals,

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<v Speaker 1>and also how to live. And this is my invitation

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<v Speaker 1>to you to come out and join us. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the entire itinerary, go to earth Ancients

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<v Speaker 1>If you have any questions whatsoever, send me an email.

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<v Speaker 1>back to you immediately. We're about halfway full, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is a personal invitation to join me in one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best tours of ancient civilizations of Turkey that is

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<v Speaker 1>out there. For more information, go to earth Ancients dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>forward slash tours. Science has identified the universe as an

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<v Speaker 1>energy based system. We're just learning all about this quantum theory,

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<v Speaker 1>string theory. We've had Micheo Kaku on the show in

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<v Speaker 1>the past, we've had others talking about this, and my

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is actually taking a part of that. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've had people on the program talking about our ancestors,

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<v Speaker 1>the Egyptians of the Maya, who understood the afterlife. My

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<v Speaker 1>guest today is Mark Anthony. He is a lawyer. He

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<v Speaker 1>is a psychic lawyer. He's known as a psychic lawyer,

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<v Speaker 1>which is interesting. He's a multi generatortional psychic and he's

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<v Speaker 1>also quite a prolific writer. He is a book that

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about today is called The Afterlife Frequency, The

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<v Speaker 1>Scientific Proof of spiritual Contact and how that awareness will

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<v Speaker 1>change your life. But he also has written other books,

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<v Speaker 1>Never Letting Go and Evidence of Eternity, which deals with

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<v Speaker 1>the afterlife. And we're going to learn today just how

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<v Speaker 1>he has tapped into this frequency and has a message

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<v Speaker 1>for us. So, Hey, Mark, welcome to Destiny. Great to

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<v Speaker 1>see you.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you clip. It is really great to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>It must have been interesting to be raised in a

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<v Speaker 1>family of mediums or psychics. Talk a little bit about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Were you aware of your gifts as a child and

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<v Speaker 1>hearing voices and seeing spirits and ghosts in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, my family was kind of like the Adams family

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<v Speaker 2>in the neighborhood, if you will. But seriously, both my

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<v Speaker 2>parents had these abilities. My mother was a commercial artist.

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<v Speaker 2>My dad was an aerospace engineer, but before that he

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<v Speaker 2>was an avy seal, and so this runs back four

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<v Speaker 2>generations on both sides of the family. I'm the first

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<v Speaker 2>you know knew there was something about our family. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I was about three and a half years old, Cliff,

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<v Speaker 2>I started interacting with my invisible friend. It's not unusual

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<v Speaker 2>for sorry about that were toddler to have invisible friends.

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<v Speaker 2>But when mommy and Daddy can see who I was

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<v Speaker 2>talking to, I remember Mom was like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>she's got it, and Dad was like, oh, dear God,

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<v Speaker 1>So they were Were they communicating openly with the other

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<v Speaker 1>realms in your presence or were they just encouraging you

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<v Speaker 1>as a as their son to develop your gifts.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a you know, that's a really good question and

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<v Speaker 2>nobody's ever asked it like that, So so thank you, Cliff,

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<v Speaker 2>this was something's it's a genetically inherited trait in my family,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's what's known as a recessive trait. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>or left handed, that's genetics, okay. And it's the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing with other types of abilities, including this. But when

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<v Speaker 2>you have two parents with the same recessive trait, it

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<v Speaker 2>increases the likelihood when of their kids is going to

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<v Speaker 2>have that trait. And I have an older brother and

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<v Speaker 2>older sister, and they're not mediums, but they are precognitive.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, they anticipate future events and they get

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<v Speaker 2>feelings about things. But I seem to get the whole package.

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<v Speaker 2>And my mom would talk about her abilities openly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>she was careful about who she would talk about them too,

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<v Speaker 2>but my dad kept it kind of under wraps. And

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<v Speaker 2>so when I was three and a half, that's when

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<v Speaker 2>I started seeing spirits. When I was four, I literally died,

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<v Speaker 2>I flatlined and was resuscitated. I had a near death experience.

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<v Speaker 2>conservative Pennsylvania Baptists. My mother's family, they were Italian Catholics,

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<v Speaker 2>and the Italians looked at this as a gift from God,

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<v Speaker 2>the gift of second to sight. You know, my grandfather

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<v Speaker 2>York and North New Jersey as the woman who knows things,

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<v Speaker 2>and fact Catholic church officials would go and meet with

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<v Speaker 2>her all the way up to cardinals. Wow, and what's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool clip is. Back in twenty sixteen, PBS did

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<v Speaker 2>a special called The Italian Americans. It was a two

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<v Speaker 2>night special and they actually did an entire segment on

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<v Speaker 2>my maternal great grandmother Giovanna, and they actually referenced her

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<v Speaker 2>psychic abilities and it was really cool seeing that it's

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<v Speaker 2>like every commercial. One of my cousins is Collein. Did

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<v Speaker 2>you see that? You know, we're all tuned in. But

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<v Speaker 2>what my dad told me when I was starting school,

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<v Speaker 2>he sat me down and he said, Mark, do not

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<v Speaker 2>talk about these things to anyone except your mother or me,

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<v Speaker 2>because people who see things others don't will get taken away.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy, let me tell you. That really scared me.

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<v Speaker 2>And you could see I was scared and I was

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<v Speaker 2>like shaking, and I remember he held me. Your dad

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<v Speaker 2>was a tough guy, but he was an affectionate dad.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a great father. Excuse me, and he I

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<v Speaker 2>understood years later why he was so worried. And if

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<v Speaker 2>I can die, digress just a bit. My dad had

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<v Speaker 2>four siblings, three sisters and a brother. One of his

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<v Speaker 2>sisters was also a medium like he was, as was

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<v Speaker 2>their mother, Isabel and the eternal grandmother Grace. And up

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<v Speaker 2>in this little town in Pennsylvania that they lived, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody knew that. You know, you know, people would women

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<v Speaker 2>would come over on Thursday afternoons under the auspices of

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<v Speaker 2>playing canasta, but they were actually getting readings from my

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<v Speaker 2>grandmother and my great grandmother. But my father sister, Marjorie,

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<v Speaker 2>she married this religious zealot and I'm being kind there,

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<v Speaker 2>I'd prefer to call him a religious fanatic. And he

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<v Speaker 2>was afraid of her abilities. He felt that they were,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you know, somehow evil or demonic. And the

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<v Speaker 2>problem with people that yank verses out of the Bible

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<v Speaker 2>is that there are there are some passages that say,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, don't be a medium. But that would be

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<v Speaker 2>in Deuteronomy eighteen, verses ten through twenty two. But later

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<v Speaker 2>in the passage it says, if basically what the prophet,

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<v Speaker 2>which is Bible speak for a medium says is true,

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<v Speaker 2>then it's sanctioned by God. Okay. So in the very

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<v Speaker 2>same passage that people want to condemn us, it also

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<v Speaker 2>sanctions us. And also in the New Testament. One of

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite books is First Book of Corinthians. Chapters twelve twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>Verses four through twelve lists the gifts that God bestows

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<v Speaker 2>on all of us, two of which prophecy, which is

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<v Speaker 2>foreseeing the future. The other is discernment of spirits, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what we do. Okay. So anyway, Marjorie's married to

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<v Speaker 2>this religious extremist and one day he's getting ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go to work. He was a machinist and he worked

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<v Speaker 2>at a steel plan in Harrison, Pennsylvania, and she didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want him going to work that day. She had a

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<v Speaker 2>terrible feeling and she'd get it in her stomach, and

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<v Speaker 2>she begged him not to go. And they got into

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<v Speaker 2>a big argument and said, fine, fine, you and that

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<v Speaker 2>voodoo stuff of years. Well, that day cliff a crane

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<v Speaker 2>was lifting thousands of pounds of steel beams, and all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden the cable snapped and they fell, and

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<v Speaker 2>it crushed the machine shop that he worked in and

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<v Speaker 2>killed everybody in it. Oh boy, Yeah, had he been

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<v Speaker 2>at work, he would have been killed. Well. Instead of

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<v Speaker 2>being grateful, what he did is he conspired with an

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<v Speaker 2>unscrupulous psychiatrist. He had Marjorie diagnosed to schizophrenic. They literally

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<v Speaker 2>sent an ambulance to their house. Guys in white coats forcibly,

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<v Speaker 2>removed her from her home, put her in a strait jacket.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, this is like twenty years before I was born.

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<v Speaker 2>This is like in the nineteen fifties. Took her to

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<v Speaker 2>an insane asylum where she was subjected to an electroshock.

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<v Speaker 2>There are for over six months, and it damaged her

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<v Speaker 2>brain so much. Marjorie never again talked about spirit seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the future. She used to be like a bubbly, pleasant woman,

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<v Speaker 2>and after that she was just really withdrawn. So I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know this obviously when I was five years old.

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<v Speaker 2>I found this out as I became a teenager, because

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<v Speaker 2>I'd start hearing people talk about Aunt Marjorie, and then

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<v Speaker 2>I heard that she had died. I never met her

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<v Speaker 2>in this world. So now I understand why my father

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<v Speaker 2>was so worried because historically mediums have been vilified in

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<v Speaker 2>some parts of the world. In Middle Eastern countries like

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<v Speaker 2>Saudi Arabia and Iran, certainly Afghanistan, people with these abilities

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<v Speaker 2>are put to death. Yeah, and so there are still

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<v Speaker 2>elements that are very extreme in the West. Even though

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<v Speaker 2>there's people that scoff at it, it is being studied,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been part of these studies. I've been studied

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<v Speaker 2>in part of studies on mediums like how are we

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<v Speaker 2>getting the information? Yeah, part of afterlife science. So it

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<v Speaker 2>has been a very interesting life and anyway, so that

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<v Speaker 2>is yes, my parents were like, it's okay to be

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<v Speaker 2>a medium, but just talk about it to us. And

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<v Speaker 2>now I understand because in their era, Yeah, looked up

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<v Speaker 2>in an insane asylum.

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<v Speaker 1>Talk about what you see, Mark would I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>so natural for you. I would imagine that if there

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<v Speaker 1>is a ghost or a recently departed soul who you

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<v Speaker 1>are able to see or maybe they and we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, they recognize that you can perceive them. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're trying to communicate with us. What as a child,

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<v Speaker 1>as a younger person. It's great to have parents and

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<v Speaker 1>relatives who are like, don't worry, this is who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>You can accept this, don't be afraid. This is what

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<v Speaker 1>you're experiencing. But talk about beginning to receive this information

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<v Speaker 1>through these souls.

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<v Speaker 2>What happens when I open up my brain to frequency?

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<v Speaker 2>Because people say, well, do they come to you all

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<v Speaker 2>the time? Well, they can, but because I run into

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<v Speaker 2>or I cross paths with inexperienced mediums, these young mediums, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>spirits are round me all the time. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 2>well that's great, but do you leave the doors and

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<v Speaker 2>windows of your house open and unlocked twenty four seven?

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<v Speaker 2>Why why would you do that to your brain and

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<v Speaker 2>to your psyche? And it's not that there's evil spirits

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get you. It has to do with setting boundaries prams.

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<v Speaker 2>You let the spirits know I'm either doing this or

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not. Why, Because if you're open all the time,

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<v Speaker 2>you're actually degrading the quality of the contact. Also, you're

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<v Speaker 2>depleting yourself mentally, and it can be mentally, emotionally and

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<v Speaker 2>physically and actually spiritually exhausting. So I limit the amount

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<v Speaker 2>amount of time that I spend doing readings per day.

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<v Speaker 2>It's no more than two readings per day. And because

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<v Speaker 2>that way, it maintains the quality. And because this ability

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<v Speaker 2>is like a battery, it runs down and has to

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<v Speaker 2>be replenished. You know, It's just like athletic ability. And

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<v Speaker 2>you get an athlete, they can play a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>you know, games of basketball. Well, when you're done, you

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<v Speaker 2>gotta you gotta rest, you gotta recharge. And so when

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<v Speaker 2>I open up to frequency, what will happen is I

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<v Speaker 2>get the sensation it's kind of tingly, and that's electromagnetic energy,

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<v Speaker 2>which we we're going to talk about in a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And so when a spirit comes to me, what spirits

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<v Speaker 2>do is they send a wave of EM energy, electromagnetic

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<v Speaker 2>frequency that goes into my brain, and then my brain's

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<v Speaker 2>EM field interphases with the spirits, and the the EM

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<v Speaker 2>frequency or wave gets converted into recognizable concepts based on

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<v Speaker 2>my memories, feelings, and cultural associations. Initially, when a spirit

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<v Speaker 2>comes in, first I sense the gender. Then I get

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<v Speaker 2>an idea of their relationship to you. So if I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing a reading on someone, I feel that they're on

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<v Speaker 2>your level. That's your generation, sibling, cousin's spouse, friend below

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<v Speaker 2>your level, child, niece, nephew above your level, parent, aunt, uncle,

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<v Speaker 2>so on and so forth. Yeah, they don't have to

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<v Speaker 2>be relatives. So like a lady on the mother level.

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<v Speaker 2>Could be a teacher, boss, professor, stepmother, mother in law

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<v Speaker 2>that you may have had at some point during your life,

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<v Speaker 2>or it could be a friend that was older. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>then they're going to start transmitting to me all types

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<v Speaker 2>of information. I will see things, hear things, feel things,

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<v Speaker 2>and know things, and then I start describing it to

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<v Speaker 2>the recipient so that they can confirm it. So that,

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<v Speaker 2>in a nutshell, is how things come. People always want

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<v Speaker 2>to know, well, do you see them standing in the room. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can, but it's a lot of energy for the

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<v Speaker 2>spirit to make that form of manifestation, and it's very

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<v Speaker 2>draining on me. So most of the time they'd rather

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<v Speaker 2>just send the information right into my brain and the

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<v Speaker 2>way I see them would be the way you would

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<v Speaker 2>see it, vivid memory. So so Cliff, for you and

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<v Speaker 2>for all the listeners, Statue of Liberty, you see her

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<v Speaker 2>in your mind's eye. M hm, that's how I see spirits.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow. Okay, you're you're you're a lawyer, but you also,

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<v Speaker 1>do readings talk about your gifts as a lawyer, can

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<v Speaker 1>you enhance a because I mean in your book you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about being a criminal defense attorney. So for the

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<v Speaker 1>different roles, does it come into play in your profession

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<v Speaker 1>where you can actually access data that is valuable to

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<v Speaker 1>a case. Talk about that, because I would think that

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<v Speaker 1>you're dialing in. You're dialing in.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many stories just for everyone's edification. My

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<v Speaker 2>life's work is now focused on the spiritual. So so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>doing you know, readings, and I appear as a lecturer

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<v Speaker 2>at afterlife conferences ancient mysteries conferences as well. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I was practicing law full time, you know, it's part

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<v Speaker 2>of my skill set, I would start picking up on

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<v Speaker 2>things and like one time I was doing. I started

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<v Speaker 2>off as a prosecutor, then I became a criminal defense lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Then I went into complex civil litigation with special particular

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<v Speaker 2>emphasis on brain injury. And that's when I started seeing

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<v Speaker 2>the parallel between the human physiology and spirit communication. In

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<v Speaker 2>other words, there is a bonafide reason and explanation how

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<v Speaker 2>this happens and why this happens. It's not pocus pocus

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<v Speaker 2>or magic. It's based on frequency, energy transfer, and human physiology.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was as a criminal offense attorney. I had

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<v Speaker 2>this one case and my client was this big bruiser

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<v Speaker 2>and he'd got into a fight with this guy at

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<v Speaker 2>a bar and my client beat the daylights out of

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<v Speaker 2>the other guy. So the other guy filed charges for

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<v Speaker 2>aggravated battery. And at the risk of sounding facetious, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not unusual in criminal cases, like when there's mutual combat,

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<v Speaker 2>the loser is the one that files charges. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the trial. It's jury selection, and jury

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<v Speaker 2>selection is extremely important because you have to have a

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<v Speaker 2>fair and impartial jury, or at least you know that's

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<v Speaker 2>that's what is supposed to happen. And so the judge

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<v Speaker 2>will bring in they will bring in a panel of

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<v Speaker 2>prospective jurors, and both sides get to ask questions, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you can eliminate people till you get down to

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<v Speaker 2>in this instance, would have been six jurors in one alternate.

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<v Speaker 2>In bigger felonies would be twelve jurors and maybe two

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<v Speaker 2>or three alternates. We saw that like in the oj

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<v Speaker 2>case and the Mennendez And so the prosecutor went through

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<v Speaker 2>his questioning and then it was my turn to ask

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<v Speaker 2>the prospective jurors questions. In this part of the trial,

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry's election is known as wadir, which is a French

448
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<v Speaker 2>term which means to speak the truth. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>before any witnesses or evidence. So I stand up and

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<v Speaker 2>all of a sudden, I get those tangles that I

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<v Speaker 2>get when a spirit comes through, and I'm thinking, this

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<v Speaker 2>is not really when I want to be doing this.

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<v Speaker 2>I kept getting drawn to this one woman and she

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<v Speaker 2>was I remember, she was beautiful. She had these big

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<v Speaker 2>dark eyes and beautiful olive complexion, and I felt a

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<v Speaker 2>female energy around her and this tightening on my neck.

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<v Speaker 2>So I knew that the female spirit, there was something

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<v Speaker 2>going on with her breathing, ability to breathe prior to passing.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was getting like this hyperventilating sensation. And so

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<v Speaker 2>now it's my turn to ask the questions. One of

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<v Speaker 2>the standard questions because this was a crime of violence, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So I asked the jor, has anyone on the jury,

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<v Speaker 2>or perhaps one of your family members, ever been the

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<v Speaker 2>victim of a violent crime? Well, lo and behold, this

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<v Speaker 2>woman starts to shake, The tears start rolling down her cheeks,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said a year ago, my sister was in

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<v Speaker 2>a foreign country when an escaped mental patient strangled her,

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<v Speaker 2>dismembered her body, and threw it in a dumpster like

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<v Speaker 2>she was trash. Oh, boy, Cliff, nobody in law school

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<v Speaker 2>taught me how to deal with this situation. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>standing there. I mean, you could hear a pin drop

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<v Speaker 2>on the core, even the prosecutor. It was a real pain.

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<v Speaker 2>It was I couldn't think of anything. And I heard

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<v Speaker 2>my client like, dude, what are you doing like this?

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<v Speaker 2>And then I'm seeing I talk about you know, do

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<v Speaker 2>you see I'm seeing her sister coming through. Literally I

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<v Speaker 2>had a foot in both worlds. And if anyone wants

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<v Speaker 2>to find out what happened, you're gonna have to get

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<v Speaker 2>my book, Never Letting Go. That's my first book because

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<v Speaker 2>I write about that and Never Letting Go. But but

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<v Speaker 2>and and and it's it's it's it's an amazing thing

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<v Speaker 2>that happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing is that was part of my skill set

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<v Speaker 2>as an attorney. And you know, I had a reputation

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<v Speaker 2>for this guy's a bit weird and he seems to

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<v Speaker 2>know things he shouldn't do, and uh, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>and having opposing counsel. Being a little bit afraid of

489
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<v Speaker 2>you is not a bad thing when you're.

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<v Speaker 1>A I mean to know that you're carrying along a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of tools that transcends normal living situations. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty cool. I want to get into this after life

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<v Speaker 1>frequency a bit and our ancestors, and we know now

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<v Speaker 1>that the Egyptians and the Maya were very much focused

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<v Speaker 1>on after life, yes, the death, the transition into heaven

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<v Speaker 1>and whatever you want to call it. Why is this

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<v Speaker 1>important for us? The after life frequency? And talk about

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<v Speaker 1>everything being a frequency, and this is an understanding in

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<v Speaker 1>this book. So in other words, you're saying to the reader,

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<v Speaker 1>understand that we are all energy, right, but take it

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<v Speaker 1>to the next level and tell us why the afterlife

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<v Speaker 1>frequency is so important?

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<v Speaker 2>First off, why is belief in and afterlife important? Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas Aquinas, who was a great medieval pologian, said, for

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<v Speaker 2>those who believe, who believe, no proof is necessary. For

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<v Speaker 2>those who do not, none maybe possible. The twenty first

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<v Speaker 2>century astrophysicist Neil deGrasse Tyson, one of my heroes, said,

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<v Speaker 2>the beauty of science is you don't have to believe

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<v Speaker 2>it or to be true. And for too long faith

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<v Speaker 2>and science have been in this corner. We have faith,

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<v Speaker 2>and in this corner we have science dinginging, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and the two were supposedly diametrically opposed. But since the

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<v Speaker 2>advent of quantum physics, it appears that faith and science

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<v Speaker 2>in many respects, particularly when it comes to energy and

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<v Speaker 2>the eternal nature of energy, are on the same side. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not diametrically opposed at all. Every great belief system,

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<v Speaker 2>from Hinduism five thousand years ago, through the ancient Egyptians,

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<v Speaker 2>through Zoroastrianism, through Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Native American spirituality,

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<v Speaker 2>all teach that the soul, the who and what we are, breaks,

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<v Speaker 2>the body comes into, the body moves on after the

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<v Speaker 2>body dies. We know from the second law of thermodynamics

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<v Speaker 2>in physics that energy is neither created nor destroyed, only

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<v Speaker 2>transferred from one form to another. We know from neuroscience

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<v Speaker 2>the study of the human brain, and I spent a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of my law practice on head injury cases. In

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<v Speaker 2>studying the human brain, the brain's only two percent of

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<v Speaker 2>the body's weight, but it uses over twenty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>its electrical energy. And in science, science is split into

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<v Speaker 2>two basic fields. You have the physical sciences, which is physics, engineering, chemistry,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you have the biological sciences, you know, biology, botany, microbiology,

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<v Speaker 2>and for centuries it's like, well they're separate, but are they?

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<v Speaker 2>Because both fields of science recognize that everything's made of molecules,

533
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<v Speaker 2>which in turn are made of atoms, which in turn

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<v Speaker 2>are composed of smaller particles trons, protons and neutrons, which

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<v Speaker 2>in turn are composed of a smaller particle of a

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<v Speaker 2>quantum which is pure electro magnetic energy, and so on.

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<v Speaker 2>The quantum level. There is no difference between the physical

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<v Speaker 2>and the biological sciences. And what that means is everything

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<v Speaker 2>in the material universe. You me, the chairs were sitting

540
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<v Speaker 2>on the radio waves, the shows being broadcast on the

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<v Speaker 2>light we see the rings of Saturn and beyond are

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<v Speaker 2>at the subatomic level, all made from the same form

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<v Speaker 2>of electromagnetic energy. And people say to me, well, that's

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<v Speaker 2>really hard to wrap my head around. You think, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it did take Albert Einstein, Max Planck, Werner, Heisenberg, Louis

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<v Speaker 2>de Brogley, Niel's Borr to figure this stuff out. Oh

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<v Speaker 2>and Maleva Einstein. I always like to give her credit

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<v Speaker 2>because Einstein's wife worked with him on that, but he

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<v Speaker 2>didn't credit her in the paper. So anyway, But at

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<v Speaker 2>any rate, we know that every thing on the subatomic

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<v Speaker 2>level is made of electromagnetic energy, which is neither created

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<v Speaker 2>nor destroyed, only transferred. So I developed the term the

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<v Speaker 2>electro magnetic soul, and I introduced the term in the

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<v Speaker 2>afterlife frequency to explain what we really are in twenty

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<v Speaker 2>first century terms, which is pure consciousness, meaning a soul

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<v Speaker 2>or a spirit that is electro magnetic eternal energy. So

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<v Speaker 2>when we physically die, and I think the worst thing

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<v Speaker 2>is to think that someone you loved so much disintegrated

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<v Speaker 2>into nothingness. That's why from ancient times until now people

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<v Speaker 2>have grieved and mourned. I've done a lot of work

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<v Speaker 2>with the mysteries and the secrets of Teuton Common's tomb,

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<v Speaker 2>and what's really fascinating, there's so many fascinating things about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But when Howard Carter, the initial archaeological team, they started

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<v Speaker 2>opening up the coffins, there was a bouquet of flowers

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<v Speaker 2>on each of the coffins. Inside the three coffins. Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>loved him, Somebody left flowers there, Somebody was hurting when

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<v Speaker 2>he died. And you see this throughout history up to today.

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<v Speaker 2>And so we now know that energies neither created nor destroyed,

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<v Speaker 2>only transferred from one form to another when we die.

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<v Speaker 2>Think of your EMS, your electromagnetic soul, as a drop

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<v Speaker 2>of water, and that when we physically die, you got

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<v Speaker 2>to realize your brain did not create the EMS. It

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<v Speaker 2>only hosts it, the way your computer hard drive hosts

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<v Speaker 2>the programs on it. You know, clip, did your computer

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<v Speaker 2>create Windows?

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<v Speaker 1>No?

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<v Speaker 2>No, okay, yeah, our computers don't create the data that's

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<v Speaker 2>on it. There are formatting a host. Guess what that's

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<v Speaker 2>what Our brain is. Brain's sophisticated in It governs perception

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<v Speaker 2>and runs our body. But it didn't create who we are.

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<v Speaker 2>It merely hosts R. E. M. A.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

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<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves, and we will return shortly

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<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Mark Anthony, speaking on his newest book,

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<v Speaker 1>The Afterlife. Frequency will be right back. Yeah, the.

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<v Speaker 2>Brother dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Could it?

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<v Speaker 2>No doubt an set back? You can tug it one

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<v Speaker 2>more time. I didn't get too dam man a game, No, no, no.

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<v Speaker 1>My guest today is author Mark Anthony, who has written

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<v Speaker 1>a book called The Afterlife Frequency, The Scientific Proof of

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<v Speaker 1>Spiritual Contact and how that awareness will change your life.

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<v Speaker 1>We're looking at the soul as a frequency and energetics

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<v Speaker 1>in the afterlife. I want you to explain if you can,

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<v Speaker 1>because you're very good at breaking this down. Does the

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<v Speaker 1>soul have a frequency that we can measure? Is there

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<v Speaker 1>a tool that we can use to measure as souls

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<v Speaker 1>entering the body and then releasing it. Because we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about near death experience, which is a fundament.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, we're getting there. There's a lot of paranormal investigations,

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<v Speaker 2>and I do a lot of paranormal investigations. I'm part

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<v Speaker 2>of a number of teams and I'm going to be

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<v Speaker 2>on an upcoming episode on Discovery Channel of a new

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<v Speaker 2>show called Destinations of the Damn that they brought me

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<v Speaker 2>in as a medium and one of the other guests

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<v Speaker 2>was Gary Goalka, who invented the spirit box, which picks

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<v Speaker 2>up the voices of spirits. I also worked with doctor

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<v Speaker 2>Gary Schwartz at the University of Arizona, and doctor Gary

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<v Speaker 2>Schwartz is working on technology known as the soul Phone,

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<v Speaker 2>which we'll do, which does exactly what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>It picks up on the presence of spirits and they're

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<v Speaker 2>refining it to where they're getting messages from spirits. Wow,

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<v Speaker 2>so the technology is Yeah, last was so fascinating because

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<v Speaker 2>over well, actually about one hundred years ago, the last

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<v Speaker 2>thing Thomas Edison was working on was what he called

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<v Speaker 2>the spirit phone, and he said, I believe I can

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<v Speaker 2>make a device sensitive enough to detect incarnate discarnate intelligence,

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<v Speaker 2>meaning spirits. But see he died before he could finish it.

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<v Speaker 2>And what doctor Schwartz has the benefit of is the

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<v Speaker 2>last century of sophisticated electronics and quantum physics. So we

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<v Speaker 2>are developing the ability to detect the presence of spirits

622
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<v Speaker 2>and near death experience research has really brought a lot

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<v Speaker 2>to the table in this as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Egyptians had the Book of the Dead. They

625
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<v Speaker 1>were so dialed into the afterlife that it seems that

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<v Speaker 1>they probably were using these discarnate souls and people who

627
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<v Speaker 1>had been around thousands of years to get data and

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<v Speaker 1>to live maybe a more harmonious life. Is it your

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<v Speaker 1>belief that we should be more in contact with the

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<v Speaker 1>afterlife souls?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And you know, people say, well, you know, do

632
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<v Speaker 2>I have a relationship with God? You know, with the

633
00:43:52.159 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 2>infinite intelligence we all do. We're constantly connected to and

634
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:02.920
<v Speaker 2>receiving messages from spirits. Question is our way recognizing the

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<v Speaker 2>con And you know the thing is, people say, well,

636
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<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll scoff at me, but then they'll have a

637
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<v Speaker 2>dream where their grandmother comes and talks to them and

638
00:44:11.400 --> 00:44:18.440
<v Speaker 2>they think it's real because it was. Because how far

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<v Speaker 2>do you want me to go with this?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hear it all, buddy, Okay, okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Inside the brain, in the center of the forehead, if

642
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<v Speaker 2>you go about four and a half inches behind the

643
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<v Speaker 2>center of the forehead, there's the pineal gland in the brain. Now,

644
00:44:33.920 --> 00:44:39.679
<v Speaker 2>the pineal glands the most mysterious, misunderstood, smallest organ in

645
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<v Speaker 2>the body, yet the most sophisticated, between the size of

646
00:44:43.599 --> 00:44:45.760
<v Speaker 2>a grain of rice and a small lime of being

647
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<v Speaker 2>a Recent discoveries have found calcite and magnetite crystals, chips

648
00:44:51.039 --> 00:44:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in it or fragments. Yeah, it governs our brain, weigh frequencies,

649
00:44:56.079 --> 00:44:59.519
<v Speaker 2>our circadian rhythms. One we're hungry, when we're tired. One

650
00:44:59.559 --> 00:45:04.199
<v Speaker 2>we're you know, you know, everything, when we want to sleep.

651
00:45:05.039 --> 00:45:10.239
<v Speaker 2>And it also regulates our perception of light, which is

652
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<v Speaker 2>really fascinating because light is how people perceive the spiritual

653
00:45:15.559 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>energy of God, both visually and in visions that are

654
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<v Speaker 2>transmitted by spirits or spiritual entities. And the pineal gland

655
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<v Speaker 2>regulates our five main brainwave frequencies Gamma, beta, alpha, theta,

656
00:45:32.840 --> 00:45:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and delta. Gamma. Think you're on Final Jeopardy and you

657
00:45:35.960 --> 00:45:38.199
<v Speaker 2>got to get that question, or you're taking a calculus exam.

658
00:45:38.280 --> 00:45:40.639
<v Speaker 2>You're just like cranking your brain at full throttle. That's

659
00:45:40.679 --> 00:45:44.800
<v Speaker 2>gamma beta activities of daily living. That's the way you

660
00:45:44.840 --> 00:45:50.719
<v Speaker 2>know wakeful state. Alpha for all of our Southern California listeners,

661
00:45:50.719 --> 00:45:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that's the gritty baby state, you know, that's where you

662
00:45:52.920 --> 00:45:56.400
<v Speaker 2>know you start to relax, and Theta is when you

663
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<v Speaker 2>go into the dream state, very RESTful sleep. Delta very

664
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<v Speaker 2>little brainwave activity, but it's extremely important because that's where

665
00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:06.719
<v Speaker 2>you heal and where children grow. So that's like healing

666
00:46:06.800 --> 00:46:10.239
<v Speaker 2>cellular regeneration. But let's go back to the alpha theta border,

667
00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:14.079
<v Speaker 2>which you're talking about spirits being measured. Each of these

668
00:46:14.119 --> 00:46:17.760
<v Speaker 2>brainwave frequencies, we measure them through the amount of hurts,

669
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<v Speaker 2>and it's at eight hertz which is the alpha theta border,

670
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<v Speaker 2>which is where psychic and mediumistic activity occur. So what happens, Cliff,

671
00:46:28.760 --> 00:46:31.440
<v Speaker 2>is when people go to sleep and they get at

672
00:46:31.519 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 2>that eight hurtz, spirits can see that they align their

673
00:46:35.719 --> 00:46:39.400
<v Speaker 2>frequency from a higher vibration. You get a frequency match,

674
00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:45.679
<v Speaker 2>and that's where spirit communication occurs. Conversely, it can happen

675
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<v Speaker 2>in the awake state when people feel somebody around them.

676
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<v Speaker 2>But what we don't understand is why people like me

677
00:46:53.039 --> 00:46:57.800
<v Speaker 2>can go from beta to alpha theta within seconds involuntarily.

678
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<v Speaker 2>And the studies indicate there may be the suggestion is

679
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<v Speaker 2>that there may be something somewhat different about our pineal gland.

680
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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we're all good at different things. I mean,

681
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<v Speaker 2>I can swim, but I'm never gonna be on Michael Phelps.

682
00:47:11.480 --> 00:47:13.119
<v Speaker 2>I can play guitar, but I'm never gonna be a

683
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<v Speaker 2>you know, Keith Urban or a Brad Paisley. You know,

684
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<v Speaker 2>I can do math, but I'm never gonna be a

685
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<v Speaker 2>Max tech Mark or a Stephen Hawking. Thing is, people

686
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.599
<v Speaker 2>are simply good at doing different things right, And this

687
00:47:25.679 --> 00:47:28.480
<v Speaker 2>happens to be, you know, part of my skill set, so.

688
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<v Speaker 1>In your feeling intuitively, and maybe it's his research as well.

689
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<v Speaker 1>Do you think the Egyptians were so dialed in to

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<v Speaker 1>the death side of life after life that they had

691
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<v Speaker 1>regular communication and maybe help themselves evolve from these higher

692
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<v Speaker 1>levels that weren't in the body anymore. But we're downloading

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<v Speaker 1>volumes of data so that they could exceed their perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>physical goals.

695
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<v Speaker 2>Would it would perceive, so it would perceive, so it

696
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<v Speaker 2>would seem so based on the perception. I've done a

697
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<v Speaker 2>lot of work with Egyptology and the Egyptians, particularly in

698
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<v Speaker 2>the aristocrats and the pharaoh's tombs. They would have chapels

699
00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:27.920
<v Speaker 2>where people would come and bring offerings to the one

700
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<v Speaker 2>who's died. And when you look at you know, and

701
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<v Speaker 2>we were given a gift by the discovery of King

702
00:48:33.480 --> 00:48:36.719
<v Speaker 2>Tuton Common's tomb, and what a lot of people don't understand,

703
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<v Speaker 2>Tuton Commons tomb was, in my opinion, the greatest archaeological discovery,

704
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<v Speaker 2>certainly in Egypt and maybe of all time. There's over

705
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<v Speaker 2>fifty five hundred objects found in the tomb, you know,

706
00:48:48.679 --> 00:48:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and everyone's the gold and the treasure. But that was

707
00:48:51.760 --> 00:48:55.440
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen twenty two. Seventeen years later, in nineteen thirty nine,

708
00:48:56.039 --> 00:48:59.880
<v Speaker 2>farther north along the Nile River. At the excavation of

709
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<v Speaker 2>the city of Tannis, three pharaohs tombs, they were all

710
00:49:04.639 --> 00:49:09.159
<v Speaker 2>in the same structure, were found intact. Now, these pharaohs

711
00:49:09.239 --> 00:49:13.039
<v Speaker 2>were from the latter part of Egypt. Egypt was on

712
00:49:13.079 --> 00:49:16.400
<v Speaker 2>the downswing, and they found six hundred objects in there,

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<v Speaker 2>including solid silver coffins. And silver was more valued by

714
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<v Speaker 2>the Egyptians than gold because they had to import it.

715
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<v Speaker 2>And the reason nobody knows about this, or you know,

716
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<v Speaker 2>except for people like me and you that study this

717
00:49:33.000 --> 00:49:36.800
<v Speaker 2>is because the story broke in nineteen thirty nine as

718
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<v Speaker 2>Hitler was invading Poland, so the world press was focused

719
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<v Speaker 2>on that. And what's interesting is the archaeologist he was French,

720
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<v Speaker 2>Pierre monteign I want to give him credit. In Raiders

721
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<v Speaker 2>of the Lost Art Indiana Jones's nemesis Renee Bellick, his

722
00:49:55.960 --> 00:50:01.000
<v Speaker 2>character George Lucas based him on Pierre Montet Wow, okay,

723
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<v Speaker 2>And even though he was kind of the bat or

724
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<v Speaker 2>kind of was the bad guy, he still had a

725
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<v Speaker 2>hanash and a swaftness about him. But be that as

726
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<v Speaker 2>it made. Pierremonte made one of the greatest archaeological discoveries

727
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<v Speaker 2>of all time, and the Egyptians used to preserve the

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<v Speaker 2>body because they believed in resurrection, not reincarnation. And then

729
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<v Speaker 2>you're like, well, okay, so they take a body, they

730
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<v Speaker 2>remove the brain, throw it away, they take the heart out,

731
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<v Speaker 2>mummify those, put all the organs, wrap it up, poor

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<v Speaker 2>ungeons on it, basically glue it into a coffin and

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<v Speaker 2>then several other coffins and under granite sarcophagus and put

734
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<v Speaker 2>it underground. So how are they supposed to resurrect? It

735
00:50:39.679 --> 00:50:46.519
<v Speaker 2>was a spiritual resurrection, not necessarily a physical insurrection, despite

736
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<v Speaker 2>all the horror movies of hyperactive mummies popping out and

737
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<v Speaker 2>you know, running around and wreaking havoc on people. But

738
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<v Speaker 2>put the Egyptians and I actually saw in Pera. I

739
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<v Speaker 2>was in the city of Oya Taya to Toambo Okay,

740
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<v Speaker 2>you know what. Okay, Yes, in the Sacred Valley, and

741
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<v Speaker 2>the people that lived there speak Quechua, which is the

742
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<v Speaker 2>language that the Incas spoke, and they're the direct descendants

743
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<v Speaker 2>of the Incas and the Inca Empire, I mean, just

744
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<v Speaker 2>real quick spanned a good chunk of the eastern half

745
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<v Speaker 2>of of South America, and when the Spanish invaded and

746
00:51:33.079 --> 00:51:37.360
<v Speaker 2>conquered it. It made Spain wealthy beyond belief, the amount

747
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<v Speaker 2>of gold and silver and emeralds and rubies that they

748
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<v Speaker 2>sacked and looted from the Inca Empire. But at Oya

749
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<v Speaker 2>tay Totambo, that was one of the very few places

750
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<v Speaker 2>where the Incas actually defeated the Spanish army. So to

751
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<v Speaker 2>this day they're like, we defeated the Spanish, you know,

752
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<v Speaker 2>and it's like really cool when you meet them. So

753
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<v Speaker 2>I was there as part with a part of an

754
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<v Speaker 2>archaeological team and we were studying the Inca Empire and

755
00:52:10.079 --> 00:52:13.840
<v Speaker 2>ancient culture, and our guide introduced us to this woman

756
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<v Speaker 2>selling corn. In the corn they grow in the Sacred Valley.

757
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<v Speaker 2>The ears are only about six or seven inches long,

758
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<v Speaker 2>and they got these huge kernels on them, and it

759
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<v Speaker 2>is the most delicious corn, I mean, unbelievable. They grill it.

760
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<v Speaker 2>It is sweet and smoky. I mean, if you ever,

761
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's almost worth the trip to South in

762
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<v Speaker 2>America to eat this corn. But this woman, they you know,

763
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<v Speaker 2>she knew that I was a medium. She picked up

764
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<v Speaker 2>on it, and she invited me into her home, and so,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we graciously accepted, and so we had our

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<v Speaker 2>translator and we had this woman, and there was like

767
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<v Speaker 2>two or three other people with me, and we walked

768
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<v Speaker 2>into her home and it was probably the building they

769
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<v Speaker 2>lived in was at least four hundred years old, and

770
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<v Speaker 2>it was on you know, the cobblestone streets that the

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<v Speaker 2>Incas had built with a drainage system that still works.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder how much of our you know, public drainage

773
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<v Speaker 2>system is going to work in four or five hundred years.

774
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<v Speaker 2>So we walk in. There's a hearth, there's a pot

775
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<v Speaker 2>on the stove. It's kind of smoking in there. You

776
00:53:24.239 --> 00:53:26.960
<v Speaker 2>could see older folks sitting in some chairs with grandparents,

777
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<v Speaker 2>little kids playing on the floor. Looked like her husband

778
00:53:29.960 --> 00:53:34.360
<v Speaker 2>came walking up. And then we stopped because right above

779
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<v Speaker 2>the hearth there are two human skulls. And we're like, oh,

780
00:53:39.960 --> 00:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>and and and they were waiting for our reaction. They

781
00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:45.280
<v Speaker 2>knew you're like, oh, the gringoes. Let's see how the

782
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:51.039
<v Speaker 2>gringoes react. But it wasn't horrifying, and through our translator,

783
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<v Speaker 2>she said, these are the skulls of our ancestors. I

784
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<v Speaker 2>think there were some great grandparents.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, is this like the Day of the

787
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<v Speaker 2>Dead in Mexico? And she smiled and she goes, every

788
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<v Speaker 2>day is the Day of the Dead. Wow, And she

789
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<v Speaker 2>explained that in their belief system, and even though technically

790
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<v Speaker 2>they're halflic you know, because when the Spanish came in,

791
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<v Speaker 2>they converted people at the point of a sword. In

792
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<v Speaker 2>this part of Peru, there's a melding of the ancient

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<v Speaker 2>income beliefs with Christianity. And we see that with the

794
00:54:26.960 --> 00:54:31.159
<v Speaker 2>Day of the Dead celebration in Central America too, because

795
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<v Speaker 2>the Day of the Dead was the Catholic Church compromised

796
00:54:35.800 --> 00:54:40.519
<v Speaker 2>to celebrate it on All Souls Day, which is forever second.

797
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<v Speaker 2>But in Latin America, in the southwest US, it's kind

798
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<v Speaker 2>of a whole week of partying, which, hey, you know,

799
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<v Speaker 2>it's it's like Halloween with a Latin Latin flavor to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Although the tradition is at least a thousand years predates

801
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<v Speaker 2>Columbus by a thousand years. And so here in Peru

802
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<v Speaker 2>they said that the skulls of the ancestors brought forth

803
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<v Speaker 2>the spirits who would watch over and protect the family.

804
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<v Speaker 2>There's a parallel between what they're doing there and what

805
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<v Speaker 2>the Egyptians were doing. Then when you go through, particularly

806
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<v Speaker 2>in countries that have been traditionally Catholic in Europe, Spain, Portugal, Italy,

807
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<v Speaker 2>of course, and even in areas that Greek Orthodox, the

808
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<v Speaker 2>the more ancient Christian religions, a lot of the cathedrals

809
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<v Speaker 2>will have relics. They may have a skull or a

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<v Speaker 2>bone from a saint, and it's kind of the same

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<v Speaker 2>thing that this has a mystical power that draws a

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00:55:43.960 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 2>protective energy around them. And I'm not criticizing, I'm not justifying,

813
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<v Speaker 2>I'm not insulting. I'm merely explaining. I've spent Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>an attorney, but I've also spent my life studying theology, archaeology, philosophy, history, biology, neurology,

815
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<v Speaker 2>and quantum physics. That's why they you know, I'm known

816
00:56:07.239 --> 00:56:12.320
<v Speaker 2>as the psychic explorer because I work in a lot

817
00:56:12.360 --> 00:56:17.440
<v Speaker 2>of related different fields, but related fields, because I see

818
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<v Speaker 2>how this all ties together. So I know that was

819
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<v Speaker 2>the lengthy explanation, but I hope and answers your question.

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's excellent because my listeners are very much into

821
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<v Speaker 1>ancient history and the various civilizations that work with after

822
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<v Speaker 1>life communication. Let's bring in the near death experience. How

823
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<v Speaker 1>does that work with after life frequency. We know that

824
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<v Speaker 1>people who have experienced, passing through, going to the place

825
00:56:52.039 --> 00:56:57.280
<v Speaker 1>we recognize as heaven. We'll meet relatives, ancestors, guides, whatever,

826
00:56:58.079 --> 00:57:01.719
<v Speaker 1>and then come back right. So, how does the after

827
00:57:01.840 --> 00:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>life frequency affect the near death experience?

828
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<v Speaker 2>My electromagnetic soul theory provides a explanation based on sound

829
00:57:12.559 --> 00:57:15.800
<v Speaker 2>scientific principles or near death experiences, as well as the

830
00:57:15.840 --> 00:57:21.159
<v Speaker 2>existence of a soul spirit, communication, deathbed visions, out of

831
00:57:21.159 --> 00:57:25.039
<v Speaker 2>body experiences, and even reincarnation, because once again, energy is

832
00:57:25.119 --> 00:57:28.480
<v Speaker 2>neither created nor destroyed, only transferred from one form to another.

833
00:57:29.159 --> 00:57:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Think of your brain, okay, your brain's the hosting device.

834
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<v Speaker 2>Think of your electromagnetic soul as a drop of water.

835
00:57:36.000 --> 00:57:39.199
<v Speaker 2>When we physically die, that drop of water leaves the

836
00:57:39.199 --> 00:57:43.599
<v Speaker 2>brain and it plunges into the eternal sea of souls

837
00:57:43.639 --> 00:57:47.079
<v Speaker 2>that I call the collective consciousness. And that way you're

838
00:57:47.280 --> 00:57:50.199
<v Speaker 2>energetically linked with other spirits, link with other spirits. But

839
00:57:50.320 --> 00:57:56.679
<v Speaker 2>sometimes that drop bounces back, and what happens is people

840
00:57:56.719 --> 00:58:00.159
<v Speaker 2>will leave their body and there appears to be and

841
00:58:00.800 --> 00:58:05.000
<v Speaker 2>in all the International Association for Near Death Studies, in

842
00:58:05.039 --> 00:58:08.519
<v Speaker 2>addition to the Near Death Experience Research Foundation and the

843
00:58:08.559 --> 00:58:12.519
<v Speaker 2>Science and Medical Network out of the UK, those are

844
00:58:12.639 --> 00:58:15.679
<v Speaker 2>in ions the Institute of Noetic Sciences. Those are the

845
00:58:15.719 --> 00:58:22.760
<v Speaker 2>four of the biggest institutions that study this, and there

846
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:25.000
<v Speaker 2>are others. So if I've left anybody out, it's, you know,

847
00:58:25.159 --> 00:58:29.639
<v Speaker 2>only for lack of time. There seem to be phases,

848
00:58:29.719 --> 00:58:33.320
<v Speaker 2>because phases of what happens during the near death experience.

849
00:58:33.840 --> 00:58:38.440
<v Speaker 2>But they occur regardless of your religious beliefs. Drugs and

850
00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 2>alcohol don't appear to have a factor one way or

851
00:58:41.400 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 2>the other. They can happen to anybody. Age, gender, socioeconomic

852
00:58:48.400 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 2>status don't matter. So when somebody dies, their ems, their

853
00:58:52.719 --> 00:58:58.519
<v Speaker 2>consciousness leaves their body. Generally there's the they may kind

854
00:58:58.519 --> 00:59:01.679
<v Speaker 2>of wander around a hospital because many times they'll hear

855
00:59:01.800 --> 00:59:04.320
<v Speaker 2>what people are saying in another room. I got a

856
00:59:04.320 --> 00:59:06.840
<v Speaker 2>lot of good stories on that one, which really cool.

857
00:59:07.400 --> 00:59:11.480
<v Speaker 2>Then after the initial separation from the body, there's going

858
00:59:11.519 --> 00:59:14.519
<v Speaker 2>through the tunnel into the light. And then once they

859
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:19.679
<v Speaker 2>go into the light, they will encounter people who are dead,

860
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and they only encounter people who are dead. Now, I'm

861
00:59:22.800 --> 00:59:25.360
<v Speaker 2>going to come back on that one, and then if

862
00:59:25.400 --> 00:59:29.679
<v Speaker 2>the experience lasts long enough, the next phase is going

863
00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:34.280
<v Speaker 2>deeper into the light. Remember I said, the pineal gland

864
00:59:34.400 --> 00:59:38.480
<v Speaker 2>is how we perceive the spiritual energy of God and

865
00:59:38.880 --> 00:59:46.599
<v Speaker 2>encountering a pervasive love, a calmness, a serenity, and a

866
00:59:46.800 --> 00:59:51.280
<v Speaker 2>beautiful presence and a voice, and this is where it

867
00:59:51.360 --> 00:59:55.159
<v Speaker 2>will be. You have to go back, and then people

868
00:59:55.199 --> 01:00:00.760
<v Speaker 2>are pulled back into their bodies. Now, the critics say

869
01:00:00.840 --> 01:00:04.239
<v Speaker 2>this is the side effect of a dying brain. If

870
01:00:04.280 --> 01:00:10.159
<v Speaker 2>it is there was. This is one of several studies

871
01:00:10.840 --> 01:00:14.639
<v Speaker 2>conducted by the iconic doctor Kenneth Ring, one of the

872
01:00:14.679 --> 01:00:21.360
<v Speaker 2>founders of Ians. He did a study on Okay, there

873
01:00:21.400 --> 01:00:23.599
<v Speaker 2>was a woman in Japan, young woman, I guess she

874
01:00:23.599 --> 01:00:28.079
<v Speaker 2>was in her twenties. She was in surgery at the hospital,

875
01:00:28.239 --> 01:00:32.519
<v Speaker 2>and she died on the operating table. And she went

876
01:00:32.559 --> 01:00:35.559
<v Speaker 2>through all those phases and encountered her sister in the light,

877
01:00:36.880 --> 01:00:39.559
<v Speaker 2>and she was resuscitated, and her parents were there, and

878
01:00:39.599 --> 01:00:43.000
<v Speaker 2>she said, I saw my sister, But how can that

879
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:46.239
<v Speaker 2>be because she is not dead. And her parents burst

880
01:00:46.320 --> 01:00:48.400
<v Speaker 2>into tears and said, she was killed in a car

881
01:00:48.440 --> 01:00:49.639
<v Speaker 2>accident last night.

882
01:00:49.960 --> 01:00:50.519
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy.

883
01:00:50.960 --> 01:00:54.400
<v Speaker 2>This woman didn't know that she was in surgery and

884
01:00:54.440 --> 01:01:00.360
<v Speaker 2>she encountered her sister's spirit. How's that a fact of

885
01:01:00.360 --> 01:01:04.079
<v Speaker 2>a dying brain? Something just going on inside of your head?

886
01:01:04.639 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 2>Doctor Kenneth Ring did studies on people who were blind

887
01:01:09.079 --> 01:01:12.519
<v Speaker 2>since birth and had near death experiences, and they came

888
01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:17.679
<v Speaker 2>back talking of visual accounts of things that they encountered. Now,

889
01:01:18.519 --> 01:01:21.199
<v Speaker 2>if they were blind since birth, and it's a side

890
01:01:21.199 --> 01:01:24.880
<v Speaker 2>effect of a dying brain, wouldn't the brain be drawing

891
01:01:24.920 --> 01:01:27.360
<v Speaker 2>on things that are in it instead of creating something

892
01:01:27.400 --> 01:01:32.440
<v Speaker 2>it never knew? Then? One of my favorite Kimberly Clark Sharp,

893
01:01:32.519 --> 01:01:35.079
<v Speaker 2>and I'm very privileged to know her, and I'm looking

894
01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.800
<v Speaker 2>forward to seeing her at the IANS conference this year.

895
01:01:38.280 --> 01:01:43.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm speaking at their fiftieth anniversary conference. I've been honored

896
01:01:43.119 --> 01:01:45.039
<v Speaker 2>to be one of the keynote speakers.

897
01:01:45.599 --> 01:01:47.960
<v Speaker 1>Are you're coming up north here to do that? Huh?

898
01:01:48.000 --> 01:01:48.960
<v Speaker 1>I mean fr Francisco.

899
01:01:49.719 --> 01:01:50.639
<v Speaker 2>It'll be in Chicago.

900
01:01:50.719 --> 01:01:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, in Chicago this year, Okay, Yeah.

901
01:01:53.559 --> 01:01:56.679
<v Speaker 2>And she died on an operating table, and the next

902
01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:00.280
<v Speaker 2>thing she knew, she was hovering above the table and

903
01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:04.159
<v Speaker 2>she was going by as her spirit was rising. She

904
01:02:04.199 --> 01:02:09.559
<v Speaker 2>could see the surgeon and the surgical staff working to

905
01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:13.079
<v Speaker 2>try to revive her. As she drifts past the light fixture,

906
01:02:13.159 --> 01:02:15.199
<v Speaker 2>she said, boy, this is really dusty. I have to

907
01:02:15.199 --> 01:02:17.559
<v Speaker 2>tell the nurse about this. Then she goes whoa, I'm

908
01:02:17.639 --> 01:02:20.480
<v Speaker 2>out of my body. And then the next thing she knows,

909
01:02:20.679 --> 01:02:22.599
<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, just thought that was funny. And

910
01:02:22.639 --> 01:02:25.159
<v Speaker 2>then the next thing she said, I was hovering above

911
01:02:25.199 --> 01:02:28.239
<v Speaker 2>the hospital and I saw the rain gutters and at

912
01:02:28.239 --> 01:02:31.360
<v Speaker 2>the corner of the building there was this blue sneaker,

913
01:02:31.400 --> 01:02:34.159
<v Speaker 2>this blue tennis shoe, stuck in the rain gutter. All right,

914
01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:38.960
<v Speaker 2>So she gets resuscitated and she starts talking about there's

915
01:02:38.960 --> 01:02:41.480
<v Speaker 2>a you know, she's talking about the blue sneaker, and

916
01:02:41.519 --> 01:02:43.960
<v Speaker 2>the surgeon said, get two people up on the roof

917
01:02:44.159 --> 01:02:48.880
<v Speaker 2>right now. He wanted two people to see exactly where

918
01:02:48.920 --> 01:02:52.679
<v Speaker 2>she said it was was a blue sneaker stuck in

919
01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:55.679
<v Speaker 2>the rain gutter. And I remember I spoke about that

920
01:02:55.840 --> 01:02:59.280
<v Speaker 2>at one Irons conference in the next year. She came

921
01:02:59.360 --> 01:03:01.880
<v Speaker 2>up to me and get me a blue sneaker, which

922
01:03:02.239 --> 01:03:04.159
<v Speaker 2>I thought was really really cool of her to do.

923
01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:08.159
<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, through near death experience research, we're

924
01:03:08.159 --> 01:03:11.199
<v Speaker 2>seeing that the consciousness to who and what you are

925
01:03:11.599 --> 01:03:15.360
<v Speaker 2>survives physical death, and not only does it survive, but

926
01:03:15.519 --> 01:03:19.559
<v Speaker 2>this electromagnetic quantum field stays coherent.

927
01:03:22.119 --> 01:03:24.159
<v Speaker 1>We're going to take a short commercial break to allow

928
01:03:24.199 --> 01:03:28.199
<v Speaker 1>our sponsors to identify themselves and we will return shortly

929
01:03:28.760 --> 01:03:32.559
<v Speaker 1>with my guest today, Mark Anthony, discussing his new book

930
01:03:32.639 --> 01:03:39.440
<v Speaker 1>on sole frequency called The Afterlife Frequency. We'll rejoin you shortly.

931
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<v Speaker 1>My guess today is author Mark Anthony. He is a lawyer,

932
01:04:21.719 --> 01:04:24.599
<v Speaker 1>but he is also a well known psychic and he's

933
01:04:24.599 --> 01:04:28.840
<v Speaker 1>written a new book on soul energy or frequency called

934
01:04:28.880 --> 01:04:33.679
<v Speaker 1>The Afterlife Frequency, The Scientific Proof of Spiritual Contact and

935
01:04:33.719 --> 01:04:40.679
<v Speaker 1>how that awareness will change your life. Okay, but this

936
01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.559
<v Speaker 1>is fine. I mean, I know I still know him.

937
01:04:43.559 --> 01:04:45.480
<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked him in the years. Doctor Raymond Moody,

938
01:04:46.039 --> 01:04:48.039
<v Speaker 1>he used to do conferences up here in San Francisco

939
01:04:48.119 --> 01:04:52.360
<v Speaker 1>when we did Whole Life Expo. But the thing is, yes,

940
01:04:52.480 --> 01:04:55.159
<v Speaker 1>near death experience, we recognize the soul doesn't die, blah

941
01:04:55.159 --> 01:04:58.719
<v Speaker 1>blah blah blah blah. But why where are we taking

942
01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:02.559
<v Speaker 1>it to the next level? Mark, And I'm talking about

943
01:05:03.039 --> 01:05:07.679
<v Speaker 1>what the Egyptians did. We don't understand how in step

944
01:05:07.760 --> 01:05:11.599
<v Speaker 1>they were with the afterlife. And a while ago I

945
01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:16.039
<v Speaker 1>was mentioning, I believe it helped them evolve. If they

946
01:05:16.079 --> 01:05:20.440
<v Speaker 1>can download the geniuses of thousands of years in the past,

947
01:05:21.000 --> 01:05:24.519
<v Speaker 1>we use the technology. There's a lot of strangers about

948
01:05:24.559 --> 01:05:29.320
<v Speaker 1>the Egyptians. They have advanced technology embedded in their system.

949
01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:31.320
<v Speaker 1>We don't know how that came about.

950
01:05:31.559 --> 01:05:34.199
<v Speaker 2>No, we don't. We still don't know how old the

951
01:05:34.280 --> 01:05:38.360
<v Speaker 2>Sphinx is. We can do a whole presentation, a whole

952
01:05:38.440 --> 01:05:42.719
<v Speaker 2>show just on the Geezel plateau. We still don't know

953
01:05:43.159 --> 01:05:46.719
<v Speaker 2>how the pyramids were constructed. And now that science is

954
01:05:46.760 --> 01:05:51.719
<v Speaker 2>showing that there are additional chambers within the Great Pier,

955
01:05:51.760 --> 01:05:54.159
<v Speaker 2>I always figured there were. Why would they built this

956
01:05:54.280 --> 01:05:56.480
<v Speaker 2>massive thing just to have one or two rooms in it?

957
01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:57.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

958
01:05:57.719 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 2>Apparently there's chambers all over the place. The question is

959
01:06:00.760 --> 01:06:02.679
<v Speaker 2>how do we get to them? And I understand one

960
01:06:02.719 --> 01:06:04.559
<v Speaker 2>they opened it up and sands started pouring out. They

961
01:06:04.559 --> 01:06:06.599
<v Speaker 2>close it because it's like, is this ballast for the

962
01:06:06.679 --> 01:06:09.679
<v Speaker 2>You know, I got to be careful when you say that. Yeah,

963
01:06:10.239 --> 01:06:12.880
<v Speaker 2>but you also have to look at you know, yes,

964
01:06:12.960 --> 01:06:16.639
<v Speaker 2>the Egyptians did amazing things, but look where we live.

965
01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Look at the amazing technological advances that we have, and

966
01:06:22.880 --> 01:06:26.119
<v Speaker 2>the people that have come up with these and invented these.

967
01:06:26.239 --> 01:06:29.719
<v Speaker 2>Where are they getting that knowledge from? So they very

968
01:06:29.800 --> 01:06:33.559
<v Speaker 2>well maybe drawing upon the wisdom of the collective consciousness.

969
01:06:33.920 --> 01:06:36.760
<v Speaker 2>Many times when I do readings, Sorry about that, I

970
01:06:36.760 --> 01:06:40.440
<v Speaker 2>don't know why my computer makes those noises, but there

971
01:06:40.519 --> 01:06:43.760
<v Speaker 2>must be some spirits. But I'll be doing a reading

972
01:06:44.000 --> 01:06:47.280
<v Speaker 2>and a spirit will come forward and start giving information

973
01:06:47.400 --> 01:06:50.159
<v Speaker 2>that far exceeded the scope of anything that they knew

974
01:06:50.199 --> 01:06:53.840
<v Speaker 2>here in this world. I was doing a reading for

975
01:06:54.639 --> 01:06:57.599
<v Speaker 2>this woman, and it was a telephone reading. I do

976
01:06:58.119 --> 01:07:00.559
<v Speaker 2>you know most of my private readings are telephone readings,

977
01:07:00.559 --> 01:07:02.880
<v Speaker 2>which are just as accurate as in person. It all

978
01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:04.639
<v Speaker 2>has to do because they move at the speed of light,

979
01:07:04.800 --> 01:07:07.960
<v Speaker 2>just like the phone call does. And all of a sudden,

980
01:07:08.639 --> 01:07:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I said, you have a son, because your mother's spirit

981
01:07:11.559 --> 01:07:14.920
<v Speaker 2>is talking about your son. She goes, yes, get his

982
01:07:15.039 --> 01:07:19.360
<v Speaker 2>heart checked. There's something there's some type of congenital problem

983
01:07:19.400 --> 01:07:22.719
<v Speaker 2>with his heart. This is really important. Well, there's nothing

984
01:07:22.760 --> 01:07:25.159
<v Speaker 2>wrong with my son, I said, look, I'm delivering the message.

985
01:07:25.639 --> 01:07:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Well a year later and I'd forgotten about that because

986
01:07:28.079 --> 01:07:30.239
<v Speaker 2>I do a lot of readings. I was doing a

987
01:07:30.280 --> 01:07:32.000
<v Speaker 2>phone reading for a gentleman and at the end of

988
01:07:32.039 --> 01:07:35.000
<v Speaker 2>the reading, he said, you probably don't remember, but a

989
01:07:35.119 --> 01:07:38.960
<v Speaker 2>year ago you did this reading for my wife and

990
01:07:39.000 --> 01:07:42.039
<v Speaker 2>her mother came through and said, get our son's heart checked.

991
01:07:42.039 --> 01:07:45.239
<v Speaker 2>There's a congenital defect. I said, now that you mention it,

992
01:07:45.360 --> 01:07:48.079
<v Speaker 2>I do recall that he said. We just returned from

993
01:07:48.119 --> 01:07:51.639
<v Speaker 2>the Cleveland Clinics Heart Center where our son had surgery,

994
01:07:52.320 --> 01:07:54.760
<v Speaker 2>and the surgeon said, I don't know how you knew

995
01:07:54.760 --> 01:07:58.239
<v Speaker 2>about this because they went in to their doctor and said,

996
01:07:58.239 --> 01:08:01.119
<v Speaker 2>please please do a scam and all of a SUDDENY go,

997
01:08:01.199 --> 01:08:03.400
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, he's got this heart defect. He said.

998
01:08:03.440 --> 01:08:05.559
<v Speaker 2>If it wasn't for what came up in the reading,

999
01:08:05.960 --> 01:08:08.679
<v Speaker 2>our son would have died. But we're able to get

1000
01:08:08.679 --> 01:08:12.880
<v Speaker 2>it corrected. Now. I don't know these things, but the

1001
01:08:13.039 --> 01:08:18.760
<v Speaker 2>spirits do, and that's why, Like you also have to realize,

1002
01:08:18.800 --> 01:08:25.640
<v Speaker 2>the Egyptians also didn't have the societal hang ups. And yes,

1003
01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:30.720
<v Speaker 2>they lived in a theocracy where religion, you know, was

1004
01:08:30.840 --> 01:08:36.199
<v Speaker 2>in government or tied together, but spirituality and the spirits

1005
01:08:36.199 --> 01:08:41.479
<v Speaker 2>of supernatural entities were part of their lives. And at

1006
01:08:41.479 --> 01:08:46.359
<v Speaker 2>the risk of being critical of Christianity and christ is

1007
01:08:46.640 --> 01:08:49.239
<v Speaker 2>was about as cool as they get, not about it

1008
01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:52.399
<v Speaker 2>as he was as cool as it gets. Talk about

1009
01:08:52.479 --> 01:08:55.199
<v Speaker 2>spiritual people say mediums are not a god. Okay, well,

1010
01:08:55.239 --> 01:08:58.920
<v Speaker 2>then read the Transfiguration where Jesus takes disciples to the

1011
01:08:58.920 --> 01:09:01.640
<v Speaker 2>top of a mountain all sudden, he glows and Moses

1012
01:09:01.680 --> 01:09:06.279
<v Speaker 2>and Elijah appear on either side of him. Hello, mediumship.

1013
01:09:06.439 --> 01:09:08.960
<v Speaker 2>I mean he got Moses and Elijah to come through,

1014
01:09:08.960 --> 01:09:13.800
<v Speaker 2>and that's pretty pretty impressive on any standard. But the

1015
01:09:13.880 --> 01:09:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Egyptians didn't have religious fanatics telling them no no, no, no,

1016
01:09:18.960 --> 01:09:23.039
<v Speaker 2>no no no about everything. Instead, they were closer to

1017
01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:27.399
<v Speaker 2>nature and the possibilities of it. And one of the lecturers,

1018
01:09:27.439 --> 01:09:31.560
<v Speaker 2>one of my Ancient Mysteries lectures is entitled Rulers, Royals,

1019
01:09:31.600 --> 01:09:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Psychics and Spirits, Mystics behind the Thrones of Power, and

1020
01:09:36.039 --> 01:09:39.119
<v Speaker 2>I take the audience on a journey through time to

1021
01:09:39.720 --> 01:09:43.760
<v Speaker 2>leaders from ancient Egypt all the way up to one

1022
01:09:43.800 --> 01:09:49.359
<v Speaker 2>third of US presidents who have had psychic advisors behind

1023
01:09:49.399 --> 01:09:54.279
<v Speaker 2>the scenes. We've been there the whole time, just we've

1024
01:09:54.319 --> 01:09:56.199
<v Speaker 2>been in the closet, so to speak.

1025
01:09:59.159 --> 01:10:04.960
<v Speaker 1>So what do you see the future as a medium

1026
01:10:05.239 --> 01:10:11.880
<v Speaker 1>and also a person who is defining these frequencies? Do

1027
01:10:11.920 --> 01:10:15.359
<v Speaker 1>you see at some point that we returned to our

1028
01:10:15.479 --> 01:10:19.920
<v Speaker 1>roots and begin using our ancestors who are not in

1029
01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:22.640
<v Speaker 1>physical form anymore as a reference.

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<v Speaker 2>I see that. I've been a member of the Shift

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<v Speaker 2>Network's Ancestral Healing Summit programs many times and connecting with

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<v Speaker 2>the spirits of ancestors can bring a lot of healing,

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<v Speaker 2>can bring a lot of I mean, I do readings

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<v Speaker 2>for people, and in fact, last week I was doing

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<v Speaker 2>a ring for a woman and her mother came through

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<v Speaker 2>and she goes, I don't want to talk to her.

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<v Speaker 2>She like obviously had a lot of issues, but her

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<v Speaker 2>mother was trying to apologize, and after the client settled down,

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<v Speaker 2>delivered some very important messages, and this spirit explained that

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<v Speaker 2>when she was a girl, she was you know, physically

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01:11:07.439 --> 01:11:15.239
<v Speaker 2>and psychologically abused, you know, wounded people, wound people, and

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<v Speaker 2>so her mother, you know, never had the never had

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<v Speaker 2>any psychological treatment or anything to help her be angry,

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01:11:24.960 --> 01:11:28.600
<v Speaker 2>vicious person, and instead she took it out on her daughter,

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<v Speaker 2>who was my client. And it was really a beautiful

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01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:35.720
<v Speaker 2>session where there was such resolution coming through. For me,

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01:11:36.159 --> 01:11:40.880
<v Speaker 2>the most humbling, the most humbling connections are when I

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<v Speaker 2>do readings for parents who've lost children, and how the

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01:11:44.960 --> 01:11:49.399
<v Speaker 2>child's spirit will come through to help the parent make

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01:11:49.520 --> 01:11:54.600
<v Speaker 2>sense of things and help the parent to find dinner peace. Because,

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<v Speaker 2>like you said, from ancient times till now, could there

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<v Speaker 2>be a worse loss than losing a child? There isn't.

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<v Speaker 2>There is no pain greater than that, and spirit communication

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01:12:05.319 --> 01:12:08.359
<v Speaker 2>is an important therapeutic step in the journey through grief.

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<v Speaker 2>You said you're in the San Francisco area. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>at the New Living Expo in May in San and Raphael,

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<v Speaker 2>so hopefully we'll get a chance to meet.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hell yeah, I'm actually doing a panel discussion on

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<v Speaker 1>ancient civilizations.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, Okay, I'll be there. Hey, if you

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<v Speaker 2>need another person on the panel.

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<v Speaker 1>I might put you on it. Mark S count me in.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to do that. And I've got two

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01:12:30.960 --> 01:12:37.479
<v Speaker 2>online light circles over February fourteenth and fifteenth online for Valentine's.

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01:12:37.560 --> 01:12:39.279
<v Speaker 2>The reason we were doing it then is because a

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<v Speaker 2>broken heart doesn't have to last forever in spear communication,

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01:12:43.399 --> 01:12:47.279
<v Speaker 2>very healing. And then on the twentieth of februaryl be

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<v Speaker 2>on Great Day Houston, the CBS Morning show KHOU in Houston.

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<v Speaker 2>Get free tickets and I'll be doing readings for audience members.

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01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:57.840
<v Speaker 2>And then the twenty first, twenty second, twenty third, and

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01:12:57.880 --> 01:13:00.319
<v Speaker 2>twenty fourth, I'll be at body Mind and all of

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<v Speaker 2>Houston in public mediumship events and.

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<v Speaker 1>Doing you're not doing conscious life down where you're at

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<v Speaker 1>in La.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm in Florida. I'm in Florida, Florida.

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01:13:10.680 --> 01:13:11.600
<v Speaker 1>I thought you were Los Angeles.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, Well I'm in I'm in La a lot.

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01:13:14.079 --> 01:13:18.079
<v Speaker 2>And then in March, I'm going to be at the

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<v Speaker 2>Sedona Ascension Retreat and I'll be giving a talk called Reincarnation.

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<v Speaker 2>The subtitle is Deja who who were you? Before you

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01:13:27.319 --> 01:13:30.720
<v Speaker 2>were you? And I'll also be doing spirit communication events.

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01:13:31.079 --> 01:13:34.079
<v Speaker 2>So I want to invite all the listeners to sign

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01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:38.279
<v Speaker 2>up for my newsletter, which is at afterlifefrequency dot com

1084
01:13:38.520 --> 01:13:40.359
<v Speaker 2>And if you go to my website you can find

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01:13:40.399 --> 01:13:43.319
<v Speaker 2>out about and I do one on one readings. You

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01:13:43.359 --> 01:13:45.439
<v Speaker 2>can sign up for those. We've got the light circles

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01:13:45.479 --> 01:13:49.279
<v Speaker 2>coming up, and if you can get tickets to all

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01:13:49.319 --> 01:13:54.039
<v Speaker 2>the events that I'm going to be at. Also, I

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01:13:54.119 --> 01:13:59.239
<v Speaker 2>write for Best Holistic Life magazine and it's it's such

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01:13:59.239 --> 01:14:03.880
<v Speaker 2>a beautiful, beautiful publication that helps people in so many ways.

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01:14:03.920 --> 01:14:07.359
<v Speaker 2>And every Thursday, I have a call in show, The Psychic.

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01:14:07.399 --> 01:14:10.279
<v Speaker 2>In the doc, my co host is the amazing doctor Pat,

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01:14:10.399 --> 01:14:13.359
<v Speaker 2>doctor Pat Vasili, and people call in and I do

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01:14:13.439 --> 01:14:16.840
<v Speaker 2>readings for them in conjunction. Doctor Pat helps you figure

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01:14:16.880 --> 01:14:20.920
<v Speaker 2>out the significance and what it means. And we just

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<v Speaker 2>won Best Radio Show of the Year second year in

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<v Speaker 2>a row.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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01:14:25.880 --> 01:14:27.680
<v Speaker 2>And yeah. So you can find out about all of

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<v Speaker 2>that by visiting afterlifefrequency dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So the books called the Afterlife Frequency. My guest today's

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<v Speaker 1>been Mark Anthony Mark, who should buy this book? Who

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01:14:39.840 --> 01:14:42.239
<v Speaker 1>did you write it for? Talk about that for a minute.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote this book for anyone who wants to take

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01:14:46.680 --> 01:14:51.600
<v Speaker 2>the next step. Spirit communication is not focus pocus or magic.

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01:14:51.840 --> 01:14:56.199
<v Speaker 2>It's real. It's based on sound scientific principles. So it's

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01:14:56.279 --> 01:15:00.760
<v Speaker 2>based on people who want a logical explanation of the

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01:15:00.800 --> 01:15:04.479
<v Speaker 2>existence of an afterlife, of the existence of a soul,

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01:15:04.720 --> 01:15:09.000
<v Speaker 2>of the reality of spirit communication, near death experiences and

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01:15:09.119 --> 01:15:13.079
<v Speaker 2>out of body experiences reincarnation. But it's also for people

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01:15:13.119 --> 01:15:19.520
<v Speaker 2>who are suffering with grief and post traumatic stress disorder. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I do. Because I'm a male medium, I work a

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01:15:22.159 --> 01:15:25.640
<v Speaker 2>lot with men. I've had a lot of military people

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01:15:25.680 --> 01:15:30.760
<v Speaker 2>come to me for readings, and men need to learn

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01:15:30.800 --> 01:15:34.720
<v Speaker 2>how to grieve. You know, we are are Traditionally, We've

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01:15:34.720 --> 01:15:41.159
<v Speaker 2>been socialized to suppress our feelings. And my dad, the toughest,

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01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:47.039
<v Speaker 2>bad assest guy ever known, the Navy seal taught me

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01:15:47.520 --> 01:15:50.880
<v Speaker 2>a real man is never afraid to cry for someone

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<v Speaker 2>he loved who dies.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, excellent, excellent, mark fantastic, much success on this. So

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01:16:00.279 --> 01:16:03.840
<v Speaker 1>you've already had it out for a while. And do

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01:16:03.880 --> 01:16:06.279
<v Speaker 1>you have a YouTube channel? People people can go and

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01:16:06.319 --> 01:16:07.520
<v Speaker 1>see you. I do.

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01:16:07.760 --> 01:16:10.359
<v Speaker 2>And that's also you know, when you go to my website,

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01:16:10.399 --> 01:16:13.880
<v Speaker 2>it's all there. You'll you'll see logo to click on. Yeah,

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01:16:14.039 --> 01:16:17.239
<v Speaker 2>I've got YouTube. I've got a number of Facebook channel

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01:16:17.399 --> 01:16:21.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean pages and groups. Okay, yeah, so it's all

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<v Speaker 2>at afterlifefrequency dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's wonderful that you're so active. Some people will

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<v Speaker 1>just write a book and go I'm done, but you're

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<v Speaker 1>like totally plugged into the whole phenomenon.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's just you know, I am so honored and

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<v Speaker 2>so humbled. Number one, For whatever reason, I've been given

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<v Speaker 2>these gifts, and I decided to go into law. I

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<v Speaker 2>was originally going to go into the clergy, but I

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<v Speaker 2>thought there was too many rules in regulations.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see on.

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<v Speaker 2>A law go figure. But that gave me access to

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01:16:52.680 --> 01:16:56.359
<v Speaker 2>so many different scientific fields and study because you have

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01:16:56.439 --> 01:16:59.079
<v Speaker 2>to learn all that to prove your case. Plus I

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01:16:59.119 --> 01:17:01.720
<v Speaker 2>was on my feet every day talking to groups of people,

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01:17:01.800 --> 01:17:06.439
<v Speaker 2>taking complex concepts and learning how to explain them in

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01:17:07.199 --> 01:17:10.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, ways that anyone can relate to it. And

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01:17:10.960 --> 01:17:14.920
<v Speaker 2>that's very important. And so I thank God every day,

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01:17:15.000 --> 01:17:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and I do believe in God. I don't believe God's

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01:17:17.000 --> 01:17:19.199
<v Speaker 2>a neurotic white guy sitting on a throne with a

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01:17:19.239 --> 01:17:23.920
<v Speaker 2>scepter smiting people. That's a bunch of medieval European imagery.

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<v Speaker 2>But I believe that the energy that flows through all

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<v Speaker 2>of us, It's like what Nikola Tesla said, what one

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01:17:31.520 --> 01:17:34.800
<v Speaker 2>man or what one person calls God, another calls the

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01:17:34.920 --> 01:17:38.840
<v Speaker 2>laws of physics. And I believe that on the quantum level,

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01:17:40.000 --> 01:17:44.520
<v Speaker 2>not only are we all interconnected, but that interconnectedness and

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01:17:44.680 --> 01:17:49.760
<v Speaker 2>intelligence flows through it, which you can consider to be God.

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<v Speaker 2>And people say, well, how do I find God? You

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01:17:52.800 --> 01:17:57.399
<v Speaker 2>already have? Yeah, all connected? You all you have that connection.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't tell people how to believe. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, when I hear people are my religions the

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<v Speaker 2>one and only way, and it's like, yeah, so what

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01:18:07.079 --> 01:18:12.840
<v Speaker 2>you're telling me is that the infinite intelligence that spans

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01:18:13.720 --> 01:18:20.920
<v Speaker 2>distances we can't even fathomed to your particular viewpoint. Yeah,

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01:18:20.960 --> 01:18:24.359
<v Speaker 2>but that's how you want to believe. That's fine, But

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<v Speaker 2>remember true spirituality is about peace, love, compassion, healing, and

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01:18:32.359 --> 01:18:42.319
<v Speaker 2>understanding ego edging God out. When people take religion to

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<v Speaker 2>justify anger, bigotry, hatred, and violence, all they're doing is

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<v Speaker 2>hijacking a religion or a moral justification for their ego

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<v Speaker 2>driven agenda. And that's how you tell the difference.

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<v Speaker 1>Fantastic, Mark's been fun. Do it again sometime.

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<v Speaker 2>I look forward to it, Cliff.

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<v Speaker 1>So there you have it in a nutshell, The soul

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<v Speaker 1>has a frequency, is an energetic entity, which is what

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<v Speaker 1>we're all about. You know. I wanted to expand on

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<v Speaker 1>that a little bit. I have been thinking about all

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<v Speaker 1>this so called alien interaction, the UAP under Identified Aerial

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01:19:26.439 --> 01:19:33.680
<v Speaker 1>Phenomenal Phenomenon Sightings formerly known as the UFO community, and

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<v Speaker 1>those people who are actually interacting with alien beings. I

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<v Speaker 1>should add one other group too. This is the people

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<v Speaker 1>who channel aliens like Bashar, who apparently channels an alien

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<v Speaker 1>from another dimension or something and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's crazy, it is. I have a feeling, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a sense that we're actually hybrids, and I am one

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<v Speaker 1>of these people that is from believes that I come

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<v Speaker 1>from another planetary system, not recently, but on a soul

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01:20:06.359 --> 01:20:12.600
<v Speaker 1>level and the energy from the soul. And this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of comes in a little bit from my Hindu studies.

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<v Speaker 1>It's universal. In other words, you don't just stay in

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01:20:20.600 --> 01:20:22.760
<v Speaker 1>the Earth's cosmos. You can leave and go to other

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01:20:22.800 --> 01:20:29.760
<v Speaker 1>planetary systems. And when you begin considering that and the

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<v Speaker 1>interests that the childlike interests that the soul has, it

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<v Speaker 1>makes sense that you could have lifetimes and other systems,

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<v Speaker 1>other planetary systems, other creatures, be human like or whatever.

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01:20:44.319 --> 01:20:45.880
<v Speaker 1>You know, the sky's the limit. If you live on

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<v Speaker 1>a gaseous planet, your lungs, your your physiology is going

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01:20:49.520 --> 01:20:51.760
<v Speaker 1>to be different. If you live on a planet that

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01:20:51.920 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 1>is low low oxygen or high oxygen, you're gonna look different,

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna you're gonna function differently. So the point being

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<v Speaker 1>is that if you are part alien and part human,

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01:21:08.960 --> 01:21:11.560
<v Speaker 1>you're gonna see things differently. I have seen things differently

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<v Speaker 1>from for a long time. I felt like an outcast

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<v Speaker 1>from one of the kids. Sometimes I felt like an

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01:21:17.520 --> 01:21:20.880
<v Speaker 1>outcast now and I was like, wow, what's your story. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth of the matter is is that we're not

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<v Speaker 1>all of us are continually being incarnated here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>We have many, many, many lifetimes. Some people believe there's

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01:21:31.319 --> 01:21:37.119
<v Speaker 1>several thousand lifetimes that we have. But you know, it's

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01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:40.439
<v Speaker 1>funny because I have felt and I have a number

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01:21:40.439 --> 01:21:42.119
<v Speaker 1>of friends, and maybe you feel the same way. I

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01:21:42.119 --> 01:21:45.600
<v Speaker 1>feel out of place a lot, and I'm very active

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01:21:45.720 --> 01:21:50.760
<v Speaker 1>socially and politically, and not politically in terms of raising

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01:21:50.760 --> 01:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>a banner, but studying who's in charge, how the systems

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<v Speaker 1>are working under this person, Democrat, Republican, independent, Soviet Union's

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01:22:00.720 --> 01:22:05.479
<v Speaker 1>opinion of the Americans, the European, Chinese, and other countries,

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01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:10.239
<v Speaker 1>a parent opinion of the Americans. And so it's a

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01:22:10.279 --> 01:22:12.520
<v Speaker 1>case study. I have this, but I have this feeling

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01:22:13.760 --> 01:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>that there's more to it, and I want My feeling

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01:22:15.560 --> 01:22:20.399
<v Speaker 1>is it's a hybridization, and so you're not your parents,

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01:22:20.520 --> 01:22:24.039
<v Speaker 1>your mother's not being impregnated by an alien, but your soul,

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01:22:24.960 --> 01:22:32.239
<v Speaker 1>the part of you that is the functioning awareness, consciousness slash,

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01:22:32.560 --> 01:22:41.720
<v Speaker 1>multi dimensional being is and has had other incarnations on

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01:22:41.840 --> 01:22:47.680
<v Speaker 1>other alien planets. People are beings that we would perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>freak out looking at, and that might be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons that that we don't have contact because some

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<v Speaker 1>of these creatures, these beings, these aliens may look scary,

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01:23:00.880 --> 01:23:02.720
<v Speaker 1>but we got to cross over. We had to cross

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01:23:02.720 --> 01:23:06.800
<v Speaker 1>over from this fear of you know, interaction to interact.

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<v Speaker 1>So and I think it's happening gradually, just not fast

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<v Speaker 1>enough for my taste. So, but getting back to the

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<v Speaker 1>frequency of the soul and the hybridization and the interdimensions

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<v Speaker 1>of a soul. I think that's why a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>us are very much open to having alien contact, having

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<v Speaker 1>ets coming down. I think it's why we're interested in

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<v Speaker 1>space and in other possible planets. And that's why if

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01:23:35.720 --> 01:23:38.520
<v Speaker 1>you have recently incarnated, if you've been in another from

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01:23:38.560 --> 01:23:44.279
<v Speaker 1>another planetary system, and you've recently incarnated into an Earth body,

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<v Speaker 1>it can be strange. And you know, I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that can be explained of people who are antisocial,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps have emotional and psychological problems. We you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>douse them with drugs, do brain electrodes and burn things

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<v Speaker 1>out on the brain to make those people function. But

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<v Speaker 1>if we were a sophisticated society who could test people

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<v Speaker 1>and say, oh, they come from planet X and they

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<v Speaker 1>are incarnating for the first time, they could need they

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<v Speaker 1>could use a little help, just so much we don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, And this is where I was thinking about

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<v Speaker 1>Mark's book, The after Life Frequency. If we could somehow

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<v Speaker 1>discern the frequency of a person and discover what's the

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<v Speaker 1>influence which lifetimes are influencing the current lifetimes, I think

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<v Speaker 1>we would we would have much more healthy people. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's my two cents of that, So all right, so

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for that. By the way, Mark will be

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<v Speaker 1>at the New Living Expo which is in May May

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<v Speaker 1>ninth through the eleventh in San Rafell, which is in

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<v Speaker 1>northern California, flying the SFO and you drive across the

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<v Speaker 1>Golden Gate Bridge to get to San Rafel. I will

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<v Speaker 1>be moderating a planet on ancient civilizations with Mark Anthony.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see who else, Kirk, Mark van Kirklin, Oh, Mike Ricksecker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm missing a few others. Anyhow, New Livingexpo dot com

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<v Speaker 1>and look at their website and you can get the details.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the panel is at Sunday the eleventh in

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<v Speaker 1>the panel room should be staying room only. Oh, I

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<v Speaker 1>know some of the other I think there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a couple more people that have been added and I

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<v Speaker 1>can't remember their names. They haven't they haven't sent me

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<v Speaker 1>who they are, but they are. It's gonna be like

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<v Speaker 1>full house. So always fun to have people like Mark

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony on the on the panel, I said, Mark, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been Van Kirkwick from Expedition X. He'll be on the

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<v Speaker 1>panel too. He'll be giving a talk there on these

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<v Speaker 1>amazing bulls that they've found in Egypt. So anyhow, New

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<v Speaker 1>Living Expo it is again the ninth through the eleventh

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<v Speaker 1>of May, and check it out. If you're in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>stop by and say hi, shake your hand. Anyhow, think

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<v Speaker 1>about that. All right, that's it for this show. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to thank my guest today, Mark Anthony and his

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<v Speaker 1>newly released book The Afterlife Frequency as always, the team

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<v Speaker 1>of Gail Tour, Mark Foster, and everyone who makes destiny happen.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are rock all right, take care of you

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<v Speaker 1>well and we will talk to you next times.

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