1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: So moving on from that, what do we have next, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:10,199 Ladies and gentlemen, We have some oh Harry Potter castings. 3 00:00:10,439 --> 00:00:11,880 Have you guys seen the latest on this? 4 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: Guess a couple names and faces pop in in about. 5 00:00:19,679 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 1: We got four like the four head honchos here right now. 6 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,879 We got Hagrid, we got Dumbledore, we got Snape and McGonagall. 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:28,800 So what do you guys want to start with? Who 8 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:34,399 want to who do want to talk about? McGonagall McGonagall. Ah. 9 00:00:34,439 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 3: For me, I saw a couple of these names. I 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:38,960 didn't like deep dive on all of them. I didn't 11 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,920 see the McGonagall casting. 12 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: Uh you know what, I'm trying to find it in 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,119 this article too, because I did not see that as well. 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:49,039 I saw the Snape, I saw the Hagrid, and I 15 00:00:49,079 --> 00:00:55,640 saw I got a name. I got a name form 16 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,520 sh Sharon Morgan. 17 00:00:56,719 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: Okay, yes, right up, come on down. 18 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: I am unfamiliar with what else she has been in, 19 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:08,159 so let's look at what her I amd is full of. 20 00:01:08,519 --> 00:01:11,519 Speaker 3: It's gonna be tough for me just seeing these faces 21 00:01:11,599 --> 00:01:14,040 because of course, Harry Potter I've just seen a million times, 22 00:01:14,079 --> 00:01:17,280 and because I've never read the books. The faces that 23 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:19,400 I got on screen are just kind of who I 24 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:21,719 see these character as. So it's gonna be tough. You know, 25 00:01:22,079 --> 00:01:24,519 the old Harry line, how dare you stand where they stood? 26 00:01:24,599 --> 00:01:26,519 I feel like that might be hitting me a few 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,280 times by seeing these faces, but I'm gonna do my 28 00:01:29,359 --> 00:01:31,000 best to not judge until. 29 00:01:30,799 --> 00:01:34,239 Speaker 2: I see it. But I don't know. It's tough for 30 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:35,480 me to see this as McGonagall. 31 00:01:35,879 --> 00:01:39,879 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that across the board, for me, what 32 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,000 stands out is like, Wow, they're going a lot younger 33 00:01:42,159 --> 00:01:47,760 than the original crew, professors, whoever else that they had 34 00:01:47,799 --> 00:01:49,560 for for those movies back in the day. And I'm 35 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:51,280 part of that. I'm wondering is like, oh is it 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,680 because I watched those movies as a kid and they 37 00:01:53,799 --> 00:01:56,239 those people look like they were super old, but now 38 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:59,280 they aren't. But no, I mean, I think across the board, 39 00:01:59,359 --> 00:02:01,439 like all the past scenes that we've seen so far, 40 00:02:02,519 --> 00:02:06,079 whether it's just speculation or not, is like like at 41 00:02:06,159 --> 00:02:09,800 least ten to twenty years younger. And especially for McGonagall, 42 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,879 I don't know how old the actress was in that 43 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,560 original movie sixty seven, right, and this actress looks like 44 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,280 forty mid forty fifty four, Like that Okay, there you go, 45 00:02:19,319 --> 00:02:22,680 fifty four, but not a gray hair on that head 46 00:02:22,759 --> 00:02:25,680 of hers. So I don't really know anything about this 47 00:02:25,759 --> 00:02:27,599 actress that I've seen her in like a couple things. 48 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,439 I think the one thing that I have seen her 49 00:02:29,439 --> 00:02:32,840 in is uh is Game Night. I forget what her 50 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,960 character's name in, Like she's in that movie. So yeah, 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,039 I don't know. It's it's interesting and some of these 52 00:02:38,039 --> 00:02:40,120 are a little bit more low key actors. But I 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,280 also feel like, at least for me back in the day, 54 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:43,759 like I feel like when I first watched Harry Potter, 55 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,439 all the Professor characters, I think I'd never seen them 56 00:02:46,439 --> 00:02:48,759 in any other movies in my life, but I think 57 00:02:48,759 --> 00:02:50,879 they were all like fairly well established for their careers. 58 00:02:50,879 --> 00:02:52,680 A lot of them that was their like breakout, our 59 00:02:52,719 --> 00:02:55,759 biggest role that they ended up having. Right, But yeah, 60 00:02:55,759 --> 00:02:58,599 I don't know. I guess going for some more unknownder 61 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:00,240 lower key is maybe a good way to go. And 62 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,240 then some of these are like bigger actors, but I 63 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,439 don't know. This one seems like she seems more like 64 00:03:05,439 --> 00:03:07,520 a Trelawney or something to me, Like I don't know 65 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,039 if I see her as McGonagall, but at the same time, 66 00:03:10,039 --> 00:03:12,159 I think it's a good route, not just to go younger. 67 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:14,680 Maybe that's a good route, like maybe producing a TV 68 00:03:14,759 --> 00:03:17,080 show is gonna take a lot longer, and so they 69 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:19,960 want people who can age up a bit more. I 70 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,840 don't know, in a bit of a better way perhaps, 71 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,879 but yeah, I don't know. I feel like they also 72 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,520 do would do well to differentiate themselves from those previous castings, 73 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:32,960 because a lot of those are so iconic. I think 74 00:03:33,439 --> 00:03:35,280 McGonagall you can get away with, but something like Snape, 75 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,680 I think it's a great idea to go for like 76 00:03:36,719 --> 00:03:41,280 a drastically different type of cast casting than what we 77 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,599 had before, just because like that is such an iconic 78 00:03:43,719 --> 00:03:45,719 role that is like ingrained in so many people, so 79 00:03:45,719 --> 00:03:48,080 many people's minds, and I think it's, yeah, it's good to 80 00:03:48,199 --> 00:03:50,400 go for like a different route. So I'm okay with 81 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,240 some of these, even if I don't see them right away. 82 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,439 I think that's maybe a good thing to switch it 83 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,159 up from like the status quo of what we've had before, 84 00:03:57,159 --> 00:03:59,560 because it wasn't really that long ago, like the last 85 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:02,479 movie in what like twenty twelve or something like. It's 86 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,439 not like this is a thirty year old franchise or something. 87 00:04:05,439 --> 00:04:08,520 It's still fairly modern ish if you think about it. 88 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely, And I think it's because of what 89 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,040 I was saying earlier. How I never never read the 90 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:17,920 books first, so I never was able to like kind 91 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:20,439 of picture my own images from what was described in 92 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:22,439 the novels. I just got what was given to me 93 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,000 in the movies. It's always going to be kind of 94 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,120 hard for me to look past whoever they have. So 95 00:04:27,319 --> 00:04:29,279 I do agree with the sense that maybe they should 96 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,319 really go in a different direction to. 97 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, just separate it. 98 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:37,759 Speaker 3: Because if you don't want it to make it seem 99 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,720 like they're trying to recreate and capture like the image 100 00:04:40,759 --> 00:04:44,399 of the previous actors, because it just won't be the same, right, 101 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,360 Like you can't just have a close to Alan Rickman 102 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,079 casting for snap Snape, like I think it would just 103 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,360 be seen as a bad attempt and then people will 104 00:04:53,399 --> 00:04:57,120 just be criticized it in that regard. My favorite amongst 105 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:00,519 all of these is it would be Brett Goldstein. Goldstein, 106 00:05:00,560 --> 00:05:03,240 however you say his name, the chap from ted Lasso 107 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:05,800 for Hagrid. I just think he's such like a hairy 108 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,759 bloke and uh, you know, Hagrid is a. 109 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,319 Speaker 4: Ha not Harry Potter, blow. 110 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 2: Harry you h A I r y And I don't know. 111 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,720 Speaker 3: I I think I just really really loved him from 112 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:20,360 Ted Lasso. 113 00:05:20,519 --> 00:05:23,040 Speaker 2: Of course he's Hercules now. 114 00:05:22,879 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 3: In four seconds, so for four seconds, but he's still 115 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,000 he's still there, he's still cooking. Maybe we'll be fighting 116 00:05:30,079 --> 00:05:34,000 Chris Evans, we'll see. But yeah, just out of all 117 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,720 of them, I think that's the one that really stands out, 118 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,839 or maybe not stands out, it stands in the right 119 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:41,439 direction for me with the casting. 120 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that one's that one's a that's a weird 121 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:48,519 one because as soon as I saw him, like, oh 122 00:05:48,639 --> 00:05:51,920 this makes sense visually, I feel like I see it 123 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,560 on him and I can. I think I can picture 124 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:56,319 him with a huge head of hair and a beard, 125 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,959 I don't know, like like a big bushy beard. Normally 126 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,240 he has some scruff going on there. Yeah, but I 127 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,040 think for me, part of it in you know, once 128 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,240 again to my previous point, good to go a different 129 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:07,240 direction than what we had before. No one's gonna match 130 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,720 that earnestness that Robbie Coltrane had, right like, you want 131 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:11,720 to go a different direction. I think it's a good, 132 00:06:11,879 --> 00:06:14,759 good call. But I feel like you at least need 133 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,480 Hagrid to be just a guy that you just instantly love, 134 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,600 very lighthearted, very funny. I think the voice is very important, 135 00:06:22,639 --> 00:06:26,600 and to me, Brett has like just the deepest, grovelliest, 136 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,240 like demon voice, and like you know, I've only seen 137 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,120 him in Ted and then recently in Shrinking season two, 138 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,120 and like both shows, he plays just like a deeply 139 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:38,319 depressed character, and I feel like maybe that's just not 140 00:06:38,399 --> 00:06:41,360 the best type casting for specifically what they want to 141 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,839 do with Hagrid here, and maybe he's had some other 142 00:06:43,879 --> 00:06:46,600 performances where he is more of a light hearted guy 143 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:49,759 and he's smiling in more. So I need to see 144 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,839 this one. But I am excited to see like how 145 00:06:52,879 --> 00:06:55,240 he portrays this character because I like, I like what 146 00:06:55,319 --> 00:06:57,680 the actor could bring to the role. I think I 147 00:06:57,800 --> 00:06:59,920 just that one's gonna take some getting used to for sure. 148 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: Could you imagine if that's just their new approach to 149 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,160 make it their their own things, just the pressing like 150 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:07,639 upset Hagrid just. 151 00:07:08,399 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I feel like, you know, they they 152 00:07:10,959 --> 00:07:13,839 probably do want to add more dimensions to all these characters. 153 00:07:13,839 --> 00:07:15,279 That's the point of doing a TV show. You have 154 00:07:15,319 --> 00:07:17,120 a lot more room to flesh them out. And I'm sure. 155 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,439 I mean I feel like even at moments like there 156 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,800 are some like you know, when he loses a dragon 157 00:07:22,839 --> 00:07:24,959 and stuff, whatever is going on there, or there are 158 00:07:25,079 --> 00:07:26,920 moments of sadness there. I feel like in the last 159 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,319 few movies we talked about this recently, like Hagrid just 160 00:07:29,319 --> 00:07:31,560 like goes away like barely in some of those last 161 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,759 movies at all. And so I don't know, I think 162 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,839 that it is good to have maybe more dynamic nature 163 00:07:37,879 --> 00:07:40,040 to like all these characters and explore these different sides 164 00:07:40,079 --> 00:07:41,959 of it. So yeah, maybe they want to go with 165 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,519 a character who can like go to some lower places 166 00:07:44,519 --> 00:07:46,480 at times. And I feel like, yeah, maybe Bread's a 167 00:07:46,519 --> 00:07:48,720 great pick for someone to be able to do that. 168 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: He does go to Askapan too briefly for Chamber of Secrets, right, 169 00:07:52,959 --> 00:07:58,079 So I mean you could have someone just be super 170 00:07:58,439 --> 00:08:00,439 upset about that. I mean, I don't know if he 171 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,079 faced off against any dementors or just going after him 172 00:08:03,079 --> 00:08:04,279 and ask Kaban. 173 00:08:04,399 --> 00:08:08,319 Speaker 4: But I mean Kirk rewatched it four minutes ago, so 174 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,720 I don't know, do you remember that or are you 175 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:10,759 saying that's in the book. 176 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: Taylor Actually, well, in Chamber of Secrets. I don't they 177 00:08:13,959 --> 00:08:16,480 arrest him in Chamber's Secrets. They rest him because he 178 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,079 was looked at as being the person who opened up 179 00:08:20,079 --> 00:08:20,759 the chamber. 180 00:08:20,639 --> 00:08:24,399 Speaker 2: Right, yeah he does. Yeh, got slurped up. 181 00:08:26,319 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: Just just in regards to Brett Goldstein, it's funny that 182 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:33,039 you mentioned. Yeah, it's like super iconic gravelly voice. I 183 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:34,960 haven't seen shrinking, so I've only really seen him in 184 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:38,080 ted Lasso and then the two minutes of well two 185 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,799 seconds of Hercules, I guess. But he has a podcast 186 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,559 it's called Films to be Buried With, I believe, And 187 00:08:43,879 --> 00:08:47,600 it's funny because he sounds so different actually, like like 188 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:48,240 in his normal. 189 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think I've ever listened to an interview 190 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:50,559 with him or something. 191 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:50,879 Speaker 1: Yeah. 192 00:08:50,879 --> 00:08:53,759 Speaker 4: Maybe that's just what his character is doing in those shows. 193 00:08:54,039 --> 00:08:56,519 Speaker 2: And he's so good at like that type casting role. 194 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,080 Speaker 3: So I'm not surprised that, like he's had more similar 195 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,240 types of roles because he is just so fantastic in 196 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,720 ted Lasso as like the big, just tough, grizzly guy 197 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,799 who's gone, you know, got a tough It's like he's 198 00:09:06,799 --> 00:09:08,799 always got his guard up and then you know, as 199 00:09:08,799 --> 00:09:10,120 you go on with the show, you find he's just 200 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,200 a big softy underneath, and I think that big softie 201 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:16,399 underneath those moments that they have like in ted Lasso, 202 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,279 I think I see again like a more. 203 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:20,519 Speaker 2: Of a restrained Hagrid. 204 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: But I definitely think he could he could hit that 205 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:27,240 that caliber. And yeah, I would also just love for 206 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,799 him to be seen as like a great Hagrid because 207 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:33,600 I think I don't want to just have him going 208 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:35,840 in that true like in that box of just being 209 00:09:35,879 --> 00:09:38,960 the big, tough, gravelly depressed character for his whole career. 210 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:42,960 I don't think that'll be his whole career, but I yeah, 211 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,200 I would just like to see more of range from 212 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,039 that guy, because I do really like him. And yeah, 213 00:09:49,039 --> 00:09:50,799 but it's just funny. It really threw me off the 214 00:09:50,799 --> 00:09:52,919 first time I ever heard him on that podcast because 215 00:09:53,440 --> 00:10:00,279 he just sounds so different from his character. Yeah, maybe 216 00:10:00,279 --> 00:10:02,159 the Dementors get to them, like what your pitch? 217 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: Well on the note you said caliber uh Mark Rylance, 218 00:10:07,639 --> 00:10:11,519 Now he's apparently a prospect for a Dumbledore. I have 219 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:14,720 only seen him in one project, and that's the Ready 220 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:15,200 Player one. 221 00:10:15,279 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 4: Do you mean Mark Strong? 222 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:26,159 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because Mark Ryland wrong, Mark Rylance 223 00:10:26,639 --> 00:10:33,879 for Dumbledore, and then Mark Strong more recently emerged as 224 00:10:33,879 --> 00:10:37,240 a prospect for the part. So there are two potential 225 00:10:37,279 --> 00:10:39,720 marks here they really like to. 226 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:41,799 Speaker 4: Play, Okay, gotcha? 227 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. So I like the pick of Mark Rylance 228 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,559 because I mean, I've only seen him in the one 229 00:10:47,639 --> 00:10:50,320 role and I haven't seen bfgh. Maybe a little bits 230 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:52,759 and pieces of it, but uh no, I think that 231 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,600 I don't know that's that's a character that it would 232 00:10:58,639 --> 00:11:01,480 be interesting to see how a new take would approach 233 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:04,159 with that, because we've had two interpretations of it, and 234 00:11:04,399 --> 00:11:06,960 I think we discussed this in the reviews where that 235 00:11:07,159 --> 00:11:12,399 original Dumbledore, the late Richard Harris. Seeing him in those 236 00:11:12,519 --> 00:11:15,000 roles where Dumbledore has to be like fighting Bouldeward and 237 00:11:15,039 --> 00:11:17,799 be a little bit more mobile, I can't picture it. 238 00:11:17,879 --> 00:11:20,159 I feel like he just like would just kind of 239 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:24,559 like hover and float because he just seems so more 240 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:28,399 old wizard wizard type. But then you have the new 241 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:32,200 Dumbledore in these order the Phoenix movies and whatnot. He's 242 00:11:32,279 --> 00:11:35,679 just casting like fucking not about a cadaborra but just 243 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,399 counter spells and just going crazy left, right and center. 244 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:40,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like, still though both of those 245 00:11:41,519 --> 00:11:43,360 he's like an old geezer, you know. And I feel 246 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,840 like this is like, okay, we're once again going younger, 247 00:11:45,919 --> 00:11:48,200 which is across the board. But something I think about 248 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,399 all of these, it's hard for me to picture like 249 00:11:50,399 --> 00:11:52,080 a younger Dumbledore. And I guess we did get that 250 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,559 with the hell There's was called fantastic beasts, but that's 251 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,879 I don't want to think about fantastic beasts. I feel 252 00:11:59,879 --> 00:12:02,120 like maybe they're maybe they're trying to bridge the bridge 253 00:12:02,159 --> 00:12:05,639 the gap there age wise, But yeah, I feel like 254 00:12:05,639 --> 00:12:07,039 I don't have a ton of experience with aut of 255 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,639 these guys. Mark Strong seems like a decent pick. 256 00:12:09,759 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't know. 257 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,519 Speaker 4: I'm not too familiar with the other guy, but I 258 00:12:13,519 --> 00:12:16,039 don't know. This is another one where I I really 259 00:12:16,159 --> 00:12:18,000 it's gonna take some getting used to for all these 260 00:12:18,039 --> 00:12:19,759 I need to see them. I need to see what 261 00:12:19,799 --> 00:12:21,919 their outfits look like, you know, Like is this dumble 262 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,919 door gonna have a beard and long hair and are 263 00:12:24,919 --> 00:12:26,600 they gonna make them have like white hair and stuff 264 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,240 and throw a hat on him, or is he gonna 265 00:12:28,279 --> 00:12:30,519 be like a young guy with like a shaved you know, 266 00:12:30,639 --> 00:12:33,080 a nice clean shaven look like. I don't know, what 267 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:33,799 they're gonna do. 268 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 3: Here, Especially in the case of Mark Strong, I feel 269 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,720 like I've never seen that man with facial hair other 270 00:12:38,759 --> 00:12:41,159 than like a small little mustache or something. 271 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: So like to just picture him with the big dumble 272 00:12:42,879 --> 00:12:45,039 door beard, especially like Sorcerer's. 273 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 3: Stone level duble Door where it's like it seems like 274 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,840 it's beard's to the floor, it's a big old pointy hat. 275 00:12:49,919 --> 00:12:51,519 Speaker 2: It's just it's a it's a weird image. 276 00:12:51,519 --> 00:12:54,399 Speaker 3: It's almost like, uh, it's almost like a cause play, right, 277 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:59,399 like like it's a recreation of someone else's character. 278 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:02,120 Speaker 2: And then it's funny with Mark Rylance. 279 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, when I looked him up, I definitely remember him 280 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,320 from any Player one, and he's just such a fucking 281 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:07,279 weird character. 282 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:07,519 Speaker 2: In that movie. 283 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 3: So to like have that similar behavior, but like in 284 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,440 the dumble Doore role, it's just it's a funny concept 285 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,639 to me. But yeah, trying to judge it, I guess 286 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:19,720 for until I actually see the project, but I will 287 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:21,840 give my thoughts on what I think. 288 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:25,879 Speaker 1: Initially, Asthy in the chat said Jude Law, which I 289 00:13:25,879 --> 00:13:30,559 totally forgot about Jude Law with Fantastic Beasts. I really 290 00:13:30,639 --> 00:13:35,159 like Jude Law's interpretation, but Mark Strong, I think you're right. Yeah, 291 00:13:35,159 --> 00:13:37,720 the facial hair thing. I think the only time I've 292 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,440 seen him with facial hair it would have been in 293 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,120 the Penguin and that was just a very brief scene. 294 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,720 But he's a very good actor, but I can't picture 295 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,200 him as a dumble Dore and I would definitely put 296 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:49,759 the other Mark what. 297 00:13:49,879 --> 00:13:51,759 Speaker 2: Level of facial air does he have? I can't remember. 298 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,039 Speaker 1: It was kind of like just like a light like 299 00:13:55,159 --> 00:13:55,799 just yeah. 300 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,799 Speaker 3: So he's always got like a very minor little. 301 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: Mind, but the hair on top of his head seems 302 00:14:00,879 --> 00:14:07,679 to be very low so gone, yes, which I guess Dumbledore, 303 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,320 you drop a hat on it, maybe we don't even notice. 304 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:13,120 But I do feel like also something Dumbledore like more 305 00:14:13,159 --> 00:14:16,039 from the books that doesn't necessarily transfer over to the 306 00:14:16,039 --> 00:14:19,120 movies is like a whimsy to him and like a 307 00:14:19,159 --> 00:14:23,080 bit more silly and jovial at times in kind of 308 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:26,039 like an old wizardy sort of type of way. And 309 00:14:26,039 --> 00:14:28,639 I feel like they went for much more serious or 310 00:14:28,679 --> 00:14:30,639 a character who has a lot of wisdom and kind 311 00:14:30,639 --> 00:14:32,879 of took away some of those elements to it. And 312 00:14:32,879 --> 00:14:36,720 I feel like Mark Strong, specifically not Rylance, to be precise, 313 00:14:36,759 --> 00:14:39,360 here could be the guy who brings in that kind 314 00:14:39,399 --> 00:14:42,480 of that kind of goofiness to it. So that's something 315 00:14:42,519 --> 00:14:43,320 i'd like to see. 316 00:14:44,159 --> 00:14:47,399 Speaker 1: This is the the book Dumbledore. 317 00:14:47,399 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 4: Con artist, right, so he's like he's a that's brown hair, 318 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,919 that is a young that is a youthful wizard. 319 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: Right. 320 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: There's the other. 321 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 2: Image because there's an old double door right next to it. 322 00:14:58,679 --> 00:15:02,399 Speaker 1: I don't know about this one, but I know that 323 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,399 this is the Philosopher's Stone back of the book. 324 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 4: We can change in ten years at Hoglart's Yes. 325 00:15:12,039 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: Oh that's crazy, so yeo, I mean, what would we 326 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:18,000 cover all of the names. 327 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:20,919 Speaker 4: The last one was Snape, which was this actor's name. 328 00:15:20,919 --> 00:15:23,600 That's what I'm trying to find, Papa do. 329 00:15:23,879 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: I hope I'm saying that last name correctly. 330 00:15:26,679 --> 00:15:28,879 Speaker 2: Probably not good time. 331 00:15:28,919 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Have you guys seen him in any other projects. 332 00:15:31,159 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go check out his IMBB as we speak. 333 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,519 Speaker 2: I'm gonna follow Dylan on Black Mirror. 334 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I've seen him in an episode, but I 335 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:44,559 don't remember that. Men and Men Okay, well, I only 336 00:15:44,559 --> 00:15:46,600 think of the one guy in Man who played every 337 00:15:46,759 --> 00:15:49,720 character and then the main girl. I don't oh, I 338 00:15:49,759 --> 00:15:52,879 think maybe he was the boyfriend in that, which isn't 339 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,320 He's not like actively in it. He's just like in 340 00:15:55,399 --> 00:15:58,240 flashbacks and stuff like she's just thinking about him from 341 00:15:58,279 --> 00:16:03,039 what I can remember. So really I can't picture him 342 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,679 like actually acting. He's more just like a guy who's 343 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:09,000 who's been around murder on the Oriente Express. So there 344 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,840 you go. I guess I've seen him in a few things, 345 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:14,919 but I don't have any strong memories of of any 346 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:15,639 of these things. 347 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I haven't seen any of these projects, so 348 00:16:20,519 --> 00:16:22,279 I really can't judge the gentlemen. 349 00:16:25,039 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 350 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: I think whoever they find this is probably going to 351 00:16:28,799 --> 00:16:33,559 be the hardest role to to fill, just because like 352 00:16:33,679 --> 00:16:37,279 all all of the actors that played like their you know, 353 00:16:37,639 --> 00:16:40,440 their positions, it's a weird way to say that they're 354 00:16:40,519 --> 00:16:41,240 who they're casta. 355 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:44,159 Speaker 2: I guess the roles. There you go, that's the word I. 356 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:44,519 Speaker 4: Was looking at. 357 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:46,639 Speaker 3: I don't know why I went with a sports reference there, 358 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:49,600 but uh, yeah, for all the actors that played their 359 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,960 their specific roles in those original Harry Potter films, it's 360 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:55,440 it's gonna be hard to replace. But I just feel 361 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:59,039 like for Snape specifically, it's just such a such a 362 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,720 powerful like r I think that character goes through and 363 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:07,200 specifically with just having Alan Rickman do such a spectacular 364 00:17:07,319 --> 00:17:10,519 job and all kind of the different sides of Snape 365 00:17:10,519 --> 00:17:12,680 that we see, like throughout all the different movies, he 366 00:17:12,799 --> 00:17:15,720 kind of goes through a lot of just different stuff 367 00:17:15,759 --> 00:17:17,880 with his character. Most of it's kind of behind the 368 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,400 scenes in the earlier films, but I think once we 369 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,279 get to the like just the reveal by the end 370 00:17:23,319 --> 00:17:26,880 of the series, it makes all of those moments just 371 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,480 like uplifted in Hindsight, and no matter what actor you're 372 00:17:31,519 --> 00:17:33,839 gonna have, like, it's going to be just so difficult 373 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,599 to get a similar effect. So I'm curious kind of 374 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,319 the role of Snape and if it's going to be 375 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:42,400 such a significant one in this new telling of the start, Like, well, 376 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:44,480 it's not a new telling, it is a retelling. They're 377 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,079 going to be hitting the same markers I would imagine, 378 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:51,160 following like just the original source material. But yeah, no, 379 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:53,359 I think this is gonna be a real hard one 380 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,039 to yeah. 381 00:17:55,039 --> 00:17:55,839 Speaker 2: Just fill. 382 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:58,279 Speaker 4: Yeah. I think that this is another one just like 383 00:17:58,319 --> 00:18:00,200 the others, where I think it's a good direct, good 384 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,400 direction to go to just not try and get an 385 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:04,759 Alan Rickman two point. 386 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: Oh. 387 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 4: We've talked about that so much in the Marvel perspective, like, man, 388 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,039 who are they gonna get to do Wolverine? And it 389 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,480 turns out that they just caught Hugh Jackman to come 390 00:18:11,519 --> 00:18:15,559 back and play Wolverine more because like sometimes a character 391 00:18:15,759 --> 00:18:18,480 is just so synonymous with a specifical actor, it's really 392 00:18:18,519 --> 00:18:21,119 hard to get away from that. And I think in 393 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,920 this case, obviously Alan Rickman's not coming back, he's not 394 00:18:24,039 --> 00:18:25,640 around anymore, so they're gonna have to go a different 395 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:27,599 route here as they are with everyone here, and so 396 00:18:27,599 --> 00:18:29,759 I think this is this is an interesting route to 397 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:31,640 go if anyone doesn't know this actor. He is black, 398 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,440 so obviously that is a very big departure from one 399 00:18:34,519 --> 00:18:37,079 what Alan Rickman's character portrayal, of course is like. But 400 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,519 also from the books and like the you call it 401 00:18:39,559 --> 00:18:42,880 the canon description of these characters as far as I 402 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,720 remember from the book. Uh so, But I'm all for 403 00:18:45,799 --> 00:18:50,079 it because like these books and movies are like, there's 404 00:18:50,160 --> 00:18:52,319 not a lot of diversity in them. In general, it's 405 00:18:52,480 --> 00:18:55,319 most like ninety nine percent white people. And then you 406 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:58,799 have the odd minor character of color who's like in 407 00:18:58,839 --> 00:19:01,480 there and has like no real two lines, yeah, exactly, 408 00:19:01,559 --> 00:19:03,319 has like no relevance on the story at all, And 409 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,880 so I hope that they go this route with like 410 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,599 multiple characters in terms of like, I don't even you 411 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,240 can even gender swap some characters too, for all I care. Like, 412 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:13,960 you know, obviously for some maybe more mainstay ones, you 413 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,640 want to keep that because it's important to what the 414 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,680 character is, but for other ones that you definitely mess 415 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:20,599 around with that. And I don't know, I think this 416 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,960 is this is a totally fine thing to do as well. 417 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,200 I just in terms of this actor, I can't recall 418 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:28,160 the performances I've seen him in enough to say if 419 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,960 he pulls off the snape angle of it, But I 420 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,960 don't know. I'm all for this in concept, so we'll see, 421 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:36,039 we'll see how it goes. 422 00:19:36,759 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm all for it again, gender swapping pretty much anyone 423 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,359 in here. But the one that I think they maybe 424 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,680 should stay away from is going from moaning Myrtle to 425 00:19:43,839 --> 00:19:44,880 something like moaning Mike. 426 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:48,519 Speaker 2: You know it's wo't wouldn't be hit in the same effect. 427 00:19:50,319 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 4: I don't know why I pictured like a gas station worker, 428 00:19:52,799 --> 00:19:55,319 like just a gristly old guy when you said. 429 00:19:55,079 --> 00:19:58,880 Speaker 2: That the trucker had or something. Yeah, moaning Mike the 430 00:19:58,920 --> 00:20:05,319 boys level laboratory. 431 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 4: There, my god, that would be something else. 432 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: I did see another name for professor McGonagall, Rachel Wise, 433 00:20:14,759 --> 00:20:17,759 who last she was in Black Widow. 434 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,079 Speaker 2: Rachel Wise. 435 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,839 Speaker 1: That's the Mummy. 436 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the Mummy lady. Damn. 437 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:26,039 Speaker 3: I mean I I think she's absolutely fantastic. I like 438 00:20:26,039 --> 00:20:27,759 her in everything that I've seen her in, which is 439 00:20:27,799 --> 00:20:30,160 probably like three titles total. 440 00:20:30,279 --> 00:20:33,279 Speaker 4: Yeah, I actually liked this as well. I like this 441 00:20:33,319 --> 00:20:33,799 pick as well. 442 00:20:33,839 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: I haven't. 443 00:20:34,319 --> 00:20:37,559 Speaker 4: I feel like I'm more I can't picture specific Roller Syndroom, 444 00:20:37,559 --> 00:20:39,640 but I like this pick. I think it's a good one. 445 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 3: Do we know if they're sticking to the same rule 446 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:44,799 that they kind of did with the original movies of 447 00:20:44,839 --> 00:20:50,559 like only casting British actors, that's kind. 448 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:51,519 Speaker 2: Of what's going on right now. 449 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:53,839 Speaker 4: But yeah, I think all these people we've talked about 450 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,319 have been is Mark Strong an American guy. 451 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,839 Speaker 1: That they're all Brits? 452 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, because Rachel Yes, I thought she was not. 453 00:21:04,759 --> 00:21:06,799 Speaker 1: I believe she is. 454 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 4: Let me pull American American English American Okay, Okay, born Westminster, London. 455 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:13,319 Speaker 1: There you go. 456 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like there's all they need. Yeah, like 457 00:21:15,559 --> 00:21:17,880 they don't need like a birth certificate to get you in. 458 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,720 But like, if you're close, I'm sure that they'll they'll 459 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:23,319 allow it to slide. But yeah, I guess. So far, 460 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,000 it seems like a lot of the casting has been 461 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,160 in that realm uh. We'll see if they venture past 462 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,880 that or like what characters they allow themselves to break 463 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:34,400 that rule on because they're obviously going for like known 464 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,480 actors for the professors and such. 465 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 466 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,559 Speaker 4: Yeah, is there any that we didn't break down yet? 467 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,079 Any rumored castings? 468 00:21:45,279 --> 00:21:48,759 Speaker 1: Well, Dalton and the Chat just throw it an interesting one. 469 00:21:48,799 --> 00:21:52,759 Adam Driver a Snape for Snape. 470 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:58,559 Speaker 4: I think I think he's too he's too bombastic, he's 471 00:21:58,559 --> 00:22:01,160 too loud and big, and maybe he could he could 472 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,119 shrink down and be you know, more minuscule and his 473 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,240 performance more subtle. But I don't. I don't know if 474 00:22:07,279 --> 00:22:08,960 I I don't know, I don't think I've seen him 475 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,480 do it before, so we'll see. 476 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 3: He's got the hair, absolutely, I feel like he's too 477 00:22:14,319 --> 00:22:15,359 jacked for Snape, you know. 478 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 2: I feel like he's gonna lose like one hundred pounds. 479 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 4: If you're making potions for a living and teaching people 480 00:22:20,039 --> 00:22:22,160 to make potions, you are not jacked. 481 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 2: No, definitely not unless you make a potion that makes 482 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:27,039 you jack. 483 00:22:27,599 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 4: Potion of strength. Yeah, okay, yeah, possibly possible. Yeah problem 484 00:22:32,319 --> 00:22:35,359 potion problem. 485 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,599 Speaker 1: All right, Twell, we're gonna move on from our Harry 486 00:22:38,599 --> 00:22:41,480 Potter casting discussion. We're gonna get into some Lord of 487 00:22:41,519 --> 00:22:45,200 the Rings topics here right after this quick ad break 488 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:50,759 to Middle Earth and we are back. Oh my goodness, no. 489 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: Ads in Middle earthy Like, I've never seen a sign 490 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:54,680 for like a shop. 491 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,039 Speaker 2: Well, they have menus, right, we discussed that. 492 00:22:57,960 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 4: There isn't there is that is established that there is. 493 00:23:00,599 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 3: But so if there's menus, there's probably some marketing material, 494 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,359 you think, so, Like I I feel like that's the 495 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,119 next step. I'm not going to say one goes hand 496 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:09,400 in hand. 497 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 4: Which kingdom would be like into that kind of thing? 498 00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,960 I feel like definitely what's his name in the white 499 00:23:15,079 --> 00:23:19,519 in the White Tower on door, Yeah, Dennis thora I 500 00:23:19,559 --> 00:23:22,720 could see him whipping out some ads. I guess. I 501 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:26,400 feel like Hobbits might be into advertisements. You know that's 502 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:35,200 another one I could see. Yeah, Yeah, it's Kirkland there always. 503 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:39,079 Speaker 1: Welcome back, Thanks for. 504 00:23:39,079 --> 00:23:39,799 Speaker 2: Having me, guys. 505 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say Dennisthor would be running those apps 506 00:23:42,759 --> 00:23:44,640 more door, probably not so much. There's not a lot 507 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:45,839 of currency going on. 508 00:23:45,799 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: But there their family, their their families out there. I 509 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,759 just got appeal to the family man and the baby 510 00:23:52,039 --> 00:23:53,440 or yeah baby. 511 00:23:53,319 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 2: Orcs collar workers. 512 00:23:55,759 --> 00:23:57,519 Speaker 4: That's that's more. That's more door. 513 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 3: It's like the the Henry Ford era. You know, people 514 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,680 are just they can feed their wife and kids with 515 00:24:03,839 --> 00:24:07,200 a factory workers salary. 516 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,799 Speaker 2: That's the mortor they probably want. 517 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: Honestly, that's kind of what my gosh, I'm going to 518 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,799 my rings of power and now theories on what was 519 00:24:14,839 --> 00:24:16,960 the was the bloke that was betrayed by all of 520 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,400 his children? 521 00:24:19,559 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: My gosh, what was his name? 522 00:24:22,079 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 4: You know what, Dylan, I'm sorry, I don't. 523 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:27,319 Speaker 2: We'll say that guy. 524 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy, that's what he is, Henry Ford. 525 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:37,519 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh god, around around here, that guy. 526 00:24:37,599 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: Oh you know that's the that's the wood elf, isn't 527 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:40,720 it around? 528 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:41,759 Speaker 1: Yes? 529 00:24:42,759 --> 00:24:44,519 Speaker 3: I thought you had it there for something. It's something 530 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:46,880 short and sweet there. Gonna look it up because we're 531 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:51,720 circling like a couple of sharks. There are fold they 532 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,519 don't want to take the butt yet you were. 533 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,079 Speaker 1: Close, Stylan. 534 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:57,160 Speaker 2: It was an at A A n R or something 535 00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:57,799 right at all? 536 00:24:57,839 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 4: Oh? 537 00:24:59,519 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 3: Yes, Anal, that's what we're well. 538 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: On that note of Adar Lords of Rings. We have 539 00:25:11,839 --> 00:25:14,480 a lot of very interesting stuff here. I think two 540 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:19,640 big time topics of discussion here with Vigo riding his 541 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,599 horse back or maybe the studio has been riding their 542 00:25:23,599 --> 00:25:28,200 horses to him because they're basically trying to wrangle him up. Yeah, 543 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:32,039 and I'll go style for another appearance in Lord of 544 00:25:32,079 --> 00:25:35,519 the Rings. I think that's you know, hunt for Gollum 545 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,680 is what they're trying to like snag him for and 546 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:41,640 maybe in the long run it could turn into multiple 547 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,799 other projects, because I think that's what they're kind of 548 00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:47,640 looking at the good old Ian for mister Gandalf, because 549 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,079 I think that they want to just get him on 550 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:52,400 the get him on behind the camera and just not 551 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:53,960 behind the camera, get him in front of the camera 552 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,319 and just get him in a bunch of scenes so that 553 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:58,920 they can use him in a bunch of different projects. 554 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,640 I think that's the is my interpretation, because he seems 555 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,720 to be pretty gung ho for a lot of things 556 00:26:03,799 --> 00:26:06,799 right now. But yeah, Vigo, what do you guys think 557 00:26:06,799 --> 00:26:07,240 about this? 558 00:26:09,079 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, we've talked about it a lot recently. It's come 559 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:16,119 up quite a few times. It's one of those things 560 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,839 like money talks. I feel like he wouldn't want to 561 00:26:17,839 --> 00:26:19,119 do it. But then like if a bunch of other 562 00:26:19,319 --> 00:26:21,480 people come back, I feel like they, ah, fine, I'll 563 00:26:21,519 --> 00:26:26,200 do it, of course with a truckload of golden coins. 564 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:30,319 But I don't know. I'm very skeptical about a lot 565 00:26:30,319 --> 00:26:31,599 of this Lord of the Ring stuff. 566 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. 567 00:26:33,519 --> 00:26:35,599 Speaker 4: I can always just enjoy my original trilogy, but like, 568 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,039 I don't want this stuff to ruin my opinion of 569 00:26:39,039 --> 00:26:42,079 any of these characters or actors or this world. 570 00:26:42,519 --> 00:26:42,720 Speaker 1: Right. 571 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I I'm gonna forever have you know that 572 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,880 that trilogy that no matter what they come out and 573 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,759 do and release, I will always have that. It'll be untouched. 574 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,559 They can't change my physical copies that I have. I'll 575 00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,799 forever be able to enjoy those. But I I will say, 576 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,279 I feel like, out of any character, you can make 577 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:07,079 arguments for a lot of different characters in the Tolkien universe, 578 00:27:07,079 --> 00:27:09,160 specifically ones that were in the Lord of the Rings 579 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,960 trilogy that Peter Jackson did, Like for those actors and 580 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,920 the characters that were shown, you can make a case 581 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,559 for a lot. 582 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 2: Of them that you could do a good story. 583 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 3: With pretty much all of them, but I feel like 584 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,200 for Aragorn and Vigo, I feel like that is like 585 00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:27,319 the golden one to do, just just. 586 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,759 Speaker 2: The idea of like Vigo. 587 00:27:32,319 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 3: I would want it to be not a prequel or 588 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,079 anything like that, because like we're already you know, we've 589 00:27:37,079 --> 00:27:39,160 already talked about Hunt for Gollum and all that stuff. 590 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,160 But I would really want, like my best case scenario 591 00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,240 something like later in his in his rule, like when 592 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:48,319 he is actually old grizzled, like you know, when. 593 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: You have you have. 594 00:27:53,599 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: What is it? 595 00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:59,559 Speaker 3: It's when Aoin is basically like just sad about the 596 00:27:59,599 --> 00:28:01,240 idea of leaving for the. 597 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: Arwin, not ill Win. 598 00:28:04,079 --> 00:28:06,279 Speaker 3: I don't know why I said her Arwin is sad 599 00:28:06,319 --> 00:28:09,400 about leaving for the the Undying Lands because she's gonna 600 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,920 be leaving aer Gorn. And then you have l Ron 601 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:14,319 basically just saying like, no matter what happens if you stay, 602 00:28:14,519 --> 00:28:16,319 he's going to eventually die, even though he can live 603 00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:18,279 a very long time. And then you see those shots 604 00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:20,799 of him like an old grizzled man man, Like I 605 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:23,400 feel like there is a juicy story you could tell, 606 00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,599 or yeah, you could tell with Vigo's character kind of 607 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,480 in that era of his rule, and it wouldn't just 608 00:28:29,559 --> 00:28:33,400 feel like it is them throwing him back in his 609 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,720 ranger uniform, like like it is no time passed, you know, 610 00:28:36,799 --> 00:28:40,319 Like I would really want that to be the last 611 00:28:40,359 --> 00:28:43,359 resort maybe having like a story that's super close to 612 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,319 the time of the events the Lord of the Rings, 613 00:28:45,319 --> 00:28:49,559 I would want something very distance. And Yeah, it's just 614 00:28:49,559 --> 00:28:53,079 a really good opportunity to tell kind of like like 615 00:28:53,119 --> 00:28:56,880 we've seen Vigo go through the rise of becoming the King, 616 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:58,599 you know, the return of the King, Like we saw 617 00:28:58,599 --> 00:29:01,440 that whole adventure, but let's let's have him like decades 618 00:29:01,519 --> 00:29:07,559 later after the Rain of Yeah King LSR. I just 619 00:29:07,559 --> 00:29:09,880 feel like there's a lot of sweet Jews there that. 620 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,519 Speaker 2: And it's also I feel like because we have Rings of. 621 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: Power, that's of course set different universes, but like thousands 622 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,640 of years before the events the Lord of the Rings, 623 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,279 like we just have a lot of stuff kind of 624 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,319 before that's those events, but really nothing afterwards. 625 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,359 Speaker 2: Right, Like there's the the. 626 00:29:28,319 --> 00:29:32,119 Speaker 3: Hidden Lost Tale of I can't remember, I can't remember 627 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,880 what it was even called, but Tolkien started writing like 628 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,480 a sequel to the Lord of the Rings. It's it's 629 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,480 basically just the new type of sour on threat that's rising, 630 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:43,799 but it never really got that much. I don't know 631 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:48,400 written before he passed. So I just think there's a 632 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,440 lot of good, juicy stories that could be told, like 633 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:56,240 well after the events of the Lord of the Rings, and. 634 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 1: It's just the spirit of Denosaur coming back. 635 00:29:58,319 --> 00:30:02,039 Speaker 3: No denis or let him rest, let him wrestle with 636 00:30:02,079 --> 00:30:05,519 the thought of his sons in his mind. And in 637 00:30:05,559 --> 00:30:08,279 this this you know, supposed world, I'm kind of setting 638 00:30:08,359 --> 00:30:10,680 up like all those characters would be long gone because 639 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:12,960 he's kind of the only dude in a dying right 640 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,039 around at least the events of the movies of Lord 641 00:30:16,079 --> 00:30:16,599 of the Rings. 642 00:30:16,799 --> 00:30:18,039 Speaker 2: So I would. 643 00:30:17,799 --> 00:30:21,039 Speaker 3: Expect I don't even know why I'm pitching this as 644 00:30:21,039 --> 00:30:22,720 if it's like something said in Stone, It's just in 645 00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:25,039 my fantasy world, this is kind of what we're getting and. 646 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: Stick around. I can't remember if he went to the 647 00:30:28,279 --> 00:30:30,039 un dying Lands, because I think him and like his 648 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,960 fon no he stayed with yeah. 649 00:30:32,319 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 3: Yeah he so I guess yeah, they get bloom back 650 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:37,960 in he would he would be the character that has 651 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,200 to look the exact same right, because he would be 652 00:30:40,519 --> 00:30:43,279 like the r Win situation where he isn't aging, uh 653 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,480 at the same rate as someone like even the Dunodyne 654 00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:46,839 would be. 655 00:30:48,279 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: They're pretty cool. We'll have them both in a duo movie. 656 00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 2: Keep Orlando bloom Away. I don't know. 657 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 3: I I liked him in the role, but the more 658 00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:58,000 I see of that guy, I'm just like, I don't 659 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:58,480 think he's. 660 00:30:58,319 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 2: A good actor at all. I love him at Pirates, 661 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:02,359 but I don't know. 662 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,039 Speaker 3: It's just I like the stuff that's going on around 663 00:31:05,119 --> 00:31:07,599 him more so than specifically his performances. 664 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think what you guys have said is I 665 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,839 resonate with it. I think you guys hit it pretty 666 00:31:15,839 --> 00:31:20,200 spot on. And putting him in the Strider gear and 667 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:21,839 putting him back in a prequel, it is a little 668 00:31:21,839 --> 00:31:23,920 weird after seeing him kind of go on this transition 669 00:31:24,039 --> 00:31:26,119 and this journey and we already know his endgame and 670 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:31,480 know his story. It's it's definitely appealing to see him 671 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,000 in a position where, like you Pitch Kirkle and having 672 00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:35,720 him in the future setting. I like that a lot. 673 00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:40,000 I think there's a lot of possibilities there, But just 674 00:31:40,039 --> 00:31:43,039 to have him and his character come back at all, 675 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,759 I will take it. I will take it. And yeah, 676 00:31:46,759 --> 00:31:49,079 I'm gonna remain optimistic to see how they do it, 677 00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:52,400 and as long as it's not shoehorned in there, because 678 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,559 there are some characters that feel a little bit shoehorned 679 00:31:54,559 --> 00:31:57,400 in with those Hobbit movies. And I'm just are they 680 00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,000 doing it because it fits with a story or are 681 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,039 they doing it because we're trying to cash in with 682 00:32:01,079 --> 00:32:04,960 the fans in the community. Right, Yeah, they're cashion, So 683 00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:07,799 I just hope that that's not going to be the case. Here. 684 00:32:08,519 --> 00:32:11,079 They take their time and they actually weave together a 685 00:32:11,119 --> 00:32:16,359 pretty intricate story. But speaking of stories, my goodness. So 686 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:19,880 from what I've seen from these articles and people are 687 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:21,880 reporting on this, it looks like, Okay, depending on how 688 00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,559 the new film War that we're hearing is going to do, 689 00:32:25,359 --> 00:32:28,240 and depending on how very early stages of development the 690 00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:30,440 Hunter galam is going to do, this is going to 691 00:32:30,599 --> 00:32:32,720 basically set the tone for future projects. And I think 692 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,240 that they're looking at standalone projects. And we've talked about 693 00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,400 this before when they were just name dropping all these 694 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,440 rumors like oh, we're gonna give an ergarm movie again 695 00:32:39,519 --> 00:32:43,359 off movie Yeah, yeah, yeada. So it looks like they're 696 00:32:43,359 --> 00:32:46,480 talking about War the or here them sequel, talking about 697 00:32:46,519 --> 00:32:49,880 a whole new mainline trilogy in Lord of the Rings 698 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,160 in that same vein no idea about what they're thinking 699 00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,839 time period wise, but they're basically like saying, and I 700 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,880 quote anything Professor Tolkien wrote, you see the layers and 701 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,079 layers of story that's underneath there, and how interconnected they 702 00:33:03,079 --> 00:33:06,839 all are, and so end quote, that's basically their sandbox. 703 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,400 They want to pull from all these stories. But afterwards, 704 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,640 I'm pretty sure how they were talking about it Hunt 705 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,519 for Gollum and then after maybe doing like a mainline 706 00:33:15,559 --> 00:33:18,000 trilogy and then getting into some more standalone films. What 707 00:33:18,079 --> 00:33:19,680 do you guys think about all these ideas? 708 00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 4: It's pretty bold, pretty bold, yeah, I mean I think 709 00:33:24,759 --> 00:33:27,279 really what it's gonna come down to in terms of animated, 710 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,039 that one's pretty simple. They're just gonna see how Rohrom does. 711 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,200 Looking like it's not gonna do amazing, who knows, maybe 712 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:35,960 it'll pick up over the holidays and end up having 713 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,039 a pretty good run. There's so many other movies really 714 00:33:38,039 --> 00:33:40,720 seen though, that it's hard to envision that happening. I 715 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,200 would love if it did, though, So I kind of 716 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,839 feel like that's gonna be a bit of a one 717 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,079 and done in terms of the animated thing. That's what 718 00:33:47,079 --> 00:33:49,359 it's looking right looking like right now. And I think 719 00:33:49,359 --> 00:33:51,359 for Hunt for Gollum, like that movie is gonna do 720 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,079 well when you bring back a lot of those main 721 00:33:53,279 --> 00:33:57,559 players again, people are gonna be interested, They're gonna want 722 00:33:57,599 --> 00:33:59,480 to go see that. A lot of people. It seems 723 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,279 like I've been kind checked out, like it Rings the 724 00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:03,480 Power numbers are pretty good, but at least from my 725 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,640 Lord of the Rings friends who I talk to about 726 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,000 this stuff, they're like, oh, yeah, I never really got 727 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,000 around a season two and they don't even know about 728 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,639 this animated movie, or they're like I might see it later, 729 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,159 or like let me know how it is after you 730 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,960 review it, Like that's how the conversations usually go. And 731 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,599 those are like people who are diehard fans for this stuff. 732 00:34:21,039 --> 00:34:22,800 So I feel like it's it's like that's the kind 733 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:24,760 of thing that would bring people back, is getting those 734 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,679 legacy actors to come back and play those characters again. 735 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,360 But once again, I feel like I kind of hope 736 00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,719 from their side too, even just a business wise like 737 00:34:34,119 --> 00:34:36,280 CEO Hunt for Gollum does and then go from there, 738 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,079 It does kind of feel like Okay, is it just 739 00:34:38,079 --> 00:34:39,719 gonna be like cash grab, like bring back these old 740 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:43,199 actors rather than telling new interesting stories that expand the world. 741 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,159 I don't know. But maybe that's just the point of 742 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,960 Rings of Power. That can be the separate interesting, new 743 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,920 cool thing, different castings, and then we can have like 744 00:34:51,519 --> 00:34:54,559 the movies in the theaters that are just kind of 745 00:34:54,599 --> 00:34:57,639 cash grabs, but like maybe they're if they're fine movies, 746 00:34:57,679 --> 00:34:59,920 you know, maybe that's all we need. So I don't know. 747 00:35:00,039 --> 00:35:02,679 I think it's I think we're far away from getting 748 00:35:02,679 --> 00:35:05,599 another trilogy, would be my guess, just because I think 749 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,039 they want to wait and see how these movies do 750 00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:09,320 and then like think about it and then maybe start 751 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,199 green light and like all that process takes years and 752 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,559 years and years. So I think we're pretty far away 753 00:35:13,559 --> 00:35:15,639 from it. But I don't know. We're kind of getting 754 00:35:15,639 --> 00:35:17,320 way more Lord of the Rings content than I would 755 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,960 have expected five years ago, So maybe I'm just totally 756 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,079 wrong on that and it's about to pop off even bigger. 757 00:35:23,119 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a trilogy is not what I want. 758 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,320 In the Lord of the Rings vein, I don't want them. 759 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:31,880 Speaker 4: It's a big commitment too. 760 00:35:32,199 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, absolutely, And it also just In my mind, 761 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,320 it makes me think that they just want to like, man, 762 00:35:38,519 --> 00:35:42,159 let's just recreate, let's recapture the Peter Jackson trilogy, you know, 763 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,639 and it's they had to bring him back to do 764 00:35:45,679 --> 00:35:48,920 another trilogy with the Hobbit and that I mean, I 765 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,679 guess it made a lot of money. So I'm not 766 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:52,760 really good at judging that, and I haven't even seen 767 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,760 the projects, Like I shouldn't really judge it, but I 768 00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:59,199 think that there's if you're committing to a trilogy, you're 769 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:04,320 committing to a very long can like a contained story, right, 770 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,920 like it all has to be attached to each other. 771 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,639 You have to have progression from movie one to movie 772 00:36:09,679 --> 00:36:12,920 two to movie three. That's a very very big story 773 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,039 to tell, and there's so many pieces and money involved 774 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:19,559 in getting that out the door. Whereas I feel like 775 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:24,880 you're losing maybe certain creative freedoms of having a big 776 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,719 budget for a single story that's told over three movies, 777 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:34,880 or have that big budget broken down into multiple smaller Yeah, 778 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:38,440 just smaller ideas, whether it's in the animated Vein or 779 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,000 I don't know, a different TV show or just smaller 780 00:36:42,039 --> 00:36:45,719 budget movies. Like I we're not we don't need to 781 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,480 have an insane budget to make an amazing story. And 782 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,119 I think that's I'm fearful that they're thinking that they 783 00:36:53,159 --> 00:36:59,280 can just throw big, big buku boku boku dollars. 784 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,280 Speaker 2: Into uh. 785 00:37:01,199 --> 00:37:03,559 Speaker 3: Into into Lord of the Rings and just get gold 786 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,079 out of it, like you can't just buy these golden gooses, 787 00:37:07,159 --> 00:37:09,239 and I I don't, I don't know. 788 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,039 Speaker 2: I would really love to see. 789 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,320 Speaker 3: A lower budget Lord of the Rings project and what 790 00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,280 they're able to do with that. And I say lower 791 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,079 budget probably still you know, close to one hundred million dollars, 792 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,360 but let's go, let's go less than one hundred million dollars. 793 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,079 Let's set the bar there. I don't need boku dollars. 794 00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:28,960 There you go, that's my dollars successful. 795 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: I would love to see a trilogy focusing on more 796 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:40,719 god trilogy just his like his his fall first time 797 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,199 he falls, then he like I'm assuming he rises back 798 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:46,239 up to power, and him teaming up with Onngoliant and 799 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,639 then him facing off against Angoliants and like more goth 800 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:52,480 like sitting on his army of bower rogs like I 801 00:37:52,519 --> 00:37:54,760 want to see on screen, like give me that final 802 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,039 battle with like six seven bowrocks, just all charging it like, 803 00:37:58,119 --> 00:38:00,760 oh my god. 804 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,559 Speaker 3: Your budget for this movie that you're pitching is proof. 805 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,639 It's like a Mojo Mojo Universe number. It's just incalculable. 806 00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,599 Speaker 1: Craven under has got nothing on this budget I'll talk about. 807 00:38:14,559 --> 00:38:16,239 But I think it's such a beautiful world where you 808 00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,039 could really kind of get into those kind of really 809 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:20,199 awesome fight scenes. And that's what I like about Rings 810 00:38:20,199 --> 00:38:22,559 of Power for the you know, it does a lot 811 00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:25,400 of things that are questionable and a lot of other things, right, 812 00:38:25,679 --> 00:38:28,440 but the battles and those sequences, I really do enjoy it, 813 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,719 and I think it's it's a lot of fun, like 814 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,760 that opening Rings the Power Season one, episode one, that 815 00:38:33,039 --> 00:38:35,440 brief little opening of just this the aisleves arriving in 816 00:38:35,480 --> 00:38:40,039 Middle Earth and that whole battle where you have the 817 00:38:40,039 --> 00:38:43,400 the Nasgoul or the riders what is it that they're ah, 818 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:48,800 what are they riding again? They're flying on the fell Beasts? Yes, 819 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000 thank you, the Fell Beasts versus the Eagles, Like, oh, 820 00:38:51,079 --> 00:38:53,559 I just want to give me a trilogy of just 821 00:38:53,639 --> 00:38:58,599 that one battle just through like six at nine hours 822 00:38:58,639 --> 00:38:58,960 of just. 823 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,079 Speaker 4: This battle of five armies. We've we've been there before, Taylor, 824 00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:06,320 but a trilogy of It, the Bettle, the fifteen Armies. 825 00:39:07,639 --> 00:39:13,760 Speaker 1: I'd be there for sure. Well, anything else, Sally forth. 826 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:15,760 Speaker 3: And then we're still talking about Lot of the Rings, 827 00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:17,360 you know, like like what you're saying doing like five 828 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,000 years ago and never would have been imagining that we're 829 00:39:19,039 --> 00:39:22,159 talking about all these like multiple Lord of the Rings projects. 830 00:39:23,119 --> 00:39:24,960 Although I'm not like the most positive and all the 831 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,559 stuff that's coming out, it's it's still it's still awesome 832 00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:29,639 that you know, it's not just captured in the two 833 00:39:29,679 --> 00:39:33,079 thousand and five realm. We can still expand upon this 834 00:39:33,199 --> 00:39:36,000 universe that the great and powerful Tolkien set us on. 835 00:39:37,679 --> 00:39:42,119 Speaker 1: Great powerful Well, we're gonna jump to probably our last 836 00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:45,039 ad break and we're gonna talk about some trailers, so 837 00:39:45,079 --> 00:39:45,880 we'll be right back