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Speaker 1: Welcome to Fantasy Hockey Life, presented by fan Tracks.

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Speaker 1: Here's your hosts, Jesse sovi Here and Victor Nunyoe.

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Speaker 3: Fantasy Hockey Live. Ketsey Severe with you, Victor Nuno with you.

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We're always with you in spirit and now in voice. Victor,

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how you doing today?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing awesome, Jesse. I am for everyone watching at home,

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which is no one. I'm dressed in my full forty

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nine Ers gear, which you will all know the outcome.

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It will be heartbreak for me or it'll be elation

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one or the other. But you know me. I'm a

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huge Niners fan when they're good and when it's.

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Speaker 3: Topical theoretically, Victor, because I gotta get this dang thing

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turned around. People may not know by the time they

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listen to this unless the forty nine Ers are down

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like twenty eight points, and we know the Packers that

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being up eighteen points that mean an anything these days.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I don't know if I was that team.

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I don't know if my heart could could take the

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drama that happened with Chicago and Green Bay. It was

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funny because I was traveling when that was happening, and

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I kept in the airport and different restaurants. I couldn't

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really watch the game, but I could peak at the score,

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and I just was in shock at how bad the

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Bears were doing. And then when I got back, when

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I got to SFO and I saw the score and

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I thought, what the heck happened here? It didn't seem possible.

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But yeah, that was pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh. Yeah, they were good times. Yeah, Victor,

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it is more World Junior's time. But first, I think

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there's some things you need to tell the people about.

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Speaker 1: That's right. We have another exciting giveaway we have. Dabber

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Hockey has hooked us up with copies of the Midseason Guide,

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something that I actually contributed to. You will see some

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of my takes on some of the prospects I think

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I did I can't even remember now, six or seven

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teams and talked about the top prospects and where what

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you can expect from the rest the season. But there's

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a whole lot of other goodies in there, and we're

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giving mid season Guides away to our loyal listeners thanks

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take a screenshot, make sure it shows your name and

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who you are, and then send it to me Victor

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at email. You can send it that way Fantasyhockeylife at

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gmail dot com, or you can DM it to me

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And it's the best fantasy hockey resource out there. It's

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Speaker 3: Some of you may wonder, why is it that you

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need a snapshot? Why don't you just go in and

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verify that I did it that way. There's a couple

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of things want to miss. Some of you all have

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weird usernames, so there's no way we'd ever know unless

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you send it to us and then we'll take your

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word for it. And the other is we don't see

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the reviews from other countries, and I bring that up.

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Victor because I got a report of our listening statistics today.

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Guess what country is number one right now in our

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listenership for the last week.

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Speaker 1: I did actually glance at this, but I don't remember.

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He's actually an honest guest. Probably let me just randomly

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guess Sweden.

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Speaker 3: Victor, it is Japan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I have to think that's some kind of a fluke.

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But Spreaker pays this either way. So however that happened,

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Suddenly these Japanese accounts started liking all my post on

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Blue Sky, and then the next thing, you know, we

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got a million Japanese listeners. I don't know what you did, Victor,

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but you have turned on the entire nation of Japan.

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I'm sure it was you.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Did you hear your Japanese just there?

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I'm assuming it's Japanese because I have no idea.

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Speaker 3: That was Japanese, Victor. That's the first time in five

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years I've had a chance to use it. Yeah, man,

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thank you whoever's listening, because we appreciate that, and if

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that is actually a real thing, we'd love to hear

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from some of you. You can even write in Japanese.

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I'll find a way, Okay, it's time to get into

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some World junior's time. I'd like to welcome to the

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show today. I guess Jordan Harris, who's a co director

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of scouting Dabber Prospects. We're here to talk about the

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World Juniors. Jordan, how you doing today?

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Speaker 4: I'm not too bad, guys, happy to be on and

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always happy to talk about World Juniors and hockey prospects,

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this hockey in general.

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Speaker 3: It's quite a tournament. I will admit I'm only one

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stayed over from Minnesota, but I didn't make it over there.

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Everybody else apparently didn't make it over there. But yeah, no,

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it was a fun tournament to watch on TV. At least,

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I think this is going to be a great discussion.

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And so we're going to go through some names for

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everybody listening out there, and I will do a little

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introduction to maybe what's going on, and we're gonna get

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Jordan's take, We're gonna get Vicker's take, and make it

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through some of the players who you care about in

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fantasy hockey who might have been playing on TV the

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last couple of weeks. And that starts with Evar Stenberg

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of Sweden. Boy, he is the right now ten points

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in seven games twenty five shots. In case you're living

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under a rock, Sweden won the World Juniors in his

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day job. He's an eighteen year old going to point

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per game in the SHL.

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Speaker 1: Not bad.

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Speaker 3: I heard the buzz, especially in the fall of his

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pushing to be the potential top pick in the twenty

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twenty six draft. I don't think that's a reckless position

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these days, because I heard a lot now. Certainly, I'm

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looking forward to seeing the playmaking and scoring on an

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NHL wing. I always liked those guys who end up

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being wingers, unlike real NHL gms who want them all

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to be centers. I want them all to be wingers

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selfishly for fantasy. But how do you feel about Stenberg

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after this tournament and what type of an NHL player

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could we be looking at here?

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Speaker 4: Jordan, Yeah, I feel good about Stenberg. I've been high

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on him kind of since last year. When the Dapper

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Prospects Hockey team met in December to go over our

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midyear rankings. We ultimately ranked him second. However, it was

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pretty split and we had basically what it came down

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to was if both McKenna and Stenberg continue their trajectories.

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Then the next time we rank, Stenberg would go one.

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So I think or I have him personally at number one,

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and in a tournament where I felt a lot of

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the draft eligible players who are likely to go in

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the top five and maybe push for that number one spot,

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had moments where they were excellent at times and maybe

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a little bit frustrating at other times. I think of

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Chase Reed, Gavin McKenna. Stenberg met the moment and he

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got better as the tournament went on. He saved his

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best couple of games for the gold medal game. Like

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he I think it's two goals and an assist or

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something like that. He was everywhere. Honestly, he was so

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good throughout the tournament, and like I said, his consistency

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was excellent. In terms of a player, I compare him

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to I see bits of our Temmy panerin in his game.

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he can also pass. What I think is really impressive

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though with him, is that he's getting, like you mentioned,

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point per game in the SAHL. He's not a big

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guy like Leo Carlson played in the SAHL in his

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draft season. He's a big guy and in Evar Stenberg

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he's maybe five eleven six feet on eighty five. But

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what he does really well in that league and especially

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the World Juniors is puck. He protects the puck really well,

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and he doesn't let his size hurt him. He bounces

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off checks, or he's able to put his body in

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a way to spin off or ultimately create separation in

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terms of like I think stylistically he's Artemy Panair and

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but in terms of recent Swedes who have gone in

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the top five in from a point perspective there, I

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have him between Leo Carlson and Lucas Raymond. Look at

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both those guys are incredible. Obviously Leo's slowed down as

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the season has gone on, but my god, he's only

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in his thirty You're going to keep getting per second

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or third year. He's only going to keep on getting better.

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But yeah, Stenberg was the real deal in this tournament

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and he's in my opinion, he's the top prospect right now.

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Speaker 1: Picture Yeah, I agree with a lot of what you said, Jordan.

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I think that one of the biggest things that I

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think a lot of us were looking for in this

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tournament was comparing the apples to apples. It was nice

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to see some of these draft eligibles there and just

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looking at Stenberg and I think you can ignore the

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points because they both had great production. But away from

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the puck, Stenberg is just so competitive. He's so engaged

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all the time. And McKenna at times, like if he

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didn't have the puck on his stick, or if he

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wasn't engaged in the offensive play, he was pretty invisible,

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which is what a lot of people have said about

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him to this day, right, like you see the highlights

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that it and it's incredible, Like there's no doubt he

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has a skill, but he might be one of these

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guys that frustrates his coaches, right because if you're out

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there and you're not participating, you're getting scored on Stenberg,

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that is not going to be the problem. And I

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think that's a big reason why the Swedes won, Right

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like him, and we'll talk about New York later, Like

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a lot of their guys, they're just always engaged, they're

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always they're hard to play against. And I know that

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people are probably sitting here thinking that's great, but that

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doesn't what does that mean for fantasy? It might mean

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more opportunity. It might mean more responsibility, it might be

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more time on ice, it might mean easier time to

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get those opportunities. Now do I think that McKenna is

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not going to get out those opportunities. Of course not,

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that's crazy. He's going to get them, and in some

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ways it might be easier because he is just focused

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on the offensive part. But I think it depends on

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what team he goes to and the coach in the situation.

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or you need to play this kind of way, and

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that is not going to be the case. I don't

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think for ivr Stenberg and looking at some of the

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you mentioned some really good comparables there. Just looking at

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before the World Juniors, there was one analyst who had

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him ranked number one. That was Tony Ferrari at the

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Hockey News. I think when, as you mentioned, when the

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next iteration of the consolidated ranks come out, I think

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he's going to be number one. I don't think many

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people are going to have mc still at number one.

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In fact, everything I've been hearing is how far McKenna

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is going to slide actually not just not be number one,

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but is he going to be two three, four something

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in that range. And but for fantasy, I think it's

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interesting because you look at some of the some of

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the models, and Stenberg has comparables right now of Henrik Sedine,

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William Ecklin, Oliver Wallstrom, Daniel Brier, Eric Lindross. These are

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like hockey prospecting and NHL ranking comparable. So there's a

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big spectrum there, Like there's clearly an upside, but there's also,

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as you mentioned, not the biggest guy, so there is

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a little bit of the is he going to have

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trouble with some of the heavier, more difficult North American

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style wasn't so at the tournament, and he's not like tiny.

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He's six foot pint eighty, but he's not the o'carlson size,

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Like he's not going to be able to physically impose himself.

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But yeah, I was super impressed with just all aspects

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of his game, and frankly I thought Elle who won

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the top four there, I thought he was good, But

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frankly I thought the other draft aliable swedes actually outshined him.

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I thought they were better and more important situations of

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the game, not just the scoring. So I was super

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impressed with Stenberg, and I think that, yeah, we might

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be talking about him as the poll holding the poll

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the rest of the way here.

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was Vigo Bjork. He put up nine points in ten

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games and is sizzling in his stock right now. He's

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an undersized seventeen year old forward who has not showed

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out quite as much in the SHL as his Stenberg,

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but a few seventeen year olds ever do. And did

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the public rankings have him middle of the first round,

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maybe second half of the first round. It's that roughly accurate.

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And what do you think of this guy's game now

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that you've seen him in the World juniors.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's generally pretty accurate. I know at

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Dauber Prospects we ended up putting him inside of our

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top ten. We did want to recognize his body of

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work over the last couple of years and just how

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incredible he has been. But we obviously recognize that NHL

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draft boards are likely to look different than ours. Most

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people have him in the teams for the reasons you

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mentioned five but ten one hundred and seventy two pounds

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center skates well enough, but not maybe as good as

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you'd want at five to ten, And there aren't many

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players who play center at five ten, one seventy two

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who aren't great skaters. Obviously there has been some, but

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they improve their skating dramatically. I think a Braiden point.

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But I also don't like saying that about a prospect

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because I feel every year everyone says there's a rating

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point or two of them in the draft, and that's

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just not true. However, though, how he play in this

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tournament was excellent. I it was nice to see how

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he'd play on the small ice, play up against some

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of the teams that have more size, like in Canada,

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the checks had a lot of size as well. He

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was excellent. The guy, he's so incredibly smart. He's got

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excellent skill. That line with line of Stenberg and Eddie

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Enberg as well, they were excellent. Just I know you

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mentioned Antone Frondel winning for the tournament. I think he

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got look. I thought frond Dell was great too, but

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I thought the other guys were a little bit better.

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I think he probably benefited from having some of the

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nicest goals that people remember, like those howitzers that came

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off the right circle and just blew past the goalie.

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But no looks at York. He was excellent. He looked

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quicker than maybe I thought he was. So that's that's

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a nod to him, and yeah, I'm happy to him.

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I'm excited to see how he picks up the rest

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of the season.

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Speaker 1: Victor, what do you think of Vigo byork Well, I

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remember when the initial Central Scouting rankings came out and

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people were and they called them a B prospect and

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people push him back on that a bit, and I

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honestly hadn't watched him that much. I've seen some highlights,

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looked at some of the what he had done and

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think him, yeah, that's pretty impressive what he's doing. He's

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in the SHL and not scoring a lot so some

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of his clips, but what he did in this tournament

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I think really just shone the light on him so brightly.

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And Jordan said there were times that he was clearly

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the best player on Team Sweden, not like necessarily the

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whole tournament, but there were times you just think about

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the overtime there and he was on the ice for

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half the overtime, He had what four breakaways, and then

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he also had the penalty shot. It's like, maybe the

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only thing he needs to do is learn how to deeke,

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because he shot on all five of them and didn't score.

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But the fact that he was out there and he's

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he has clearly the coaches trust. It's one of those

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things I remember back to the whole the Michael Jordan

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draft where they're all like looking at him, this rookie,

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and it's like, why are they looking at him? Like

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he was just cool as ice, And that's how Biorke was,

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Like he clearly was not nervous, he was confident, he knew,

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he trusted himself and his skill and his teammates, and

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he was just awesome. And I think that no one

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in this tournament raises stock more than York. I think

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just based on unless maybe you're talking about some of

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the guys that were maybe going to go in the

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third or fourth round, but of the top prospects, I

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don't think anyone raised their stock more than he did.

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But the fact remains, as Jordan said, he is five',

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Ten he is a little bit on the smaller, side

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but he is just so smart with some of the

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COMPS i heard thrown around for him are Like Marco,

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rossi who is finally like coming around right like it's

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taking a long. Time And i've always believed in him

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because he's super, smart and B york is the same,

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way probably a better skater and maybe a little bit more,

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competitive but still has some of the size. Issues SO

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i think some of the same things could be said

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could be true for, him and it might depend a

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lot on the situation where he. GOES i think the

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situation In Minnesota fairossi for a long time wasn't, great

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so we'll see what happens. Here BUT i just Think

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byork is he's so smart and competitive and he's what

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he showed in this tournament was it he is not

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only is he not negatively affected by the, moment but

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he rose to the. Occasion and really without, HIM i

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don't Think sweden wins. Gold they just. Don't they had

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a lot of good, players but he was like the

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heart and soul that really helped push them over the.

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Edge and some of those games were really tight and

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they guys like him and he showed. Up not that

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the other guys were, bad BUT i JUST i saw

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more from him that was impressive in those key. Moments,

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Right you need. Those you need your stars to show

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up in key, moments and he did that almost more

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than anyone. Else SO i was super. Impressed in terms of.

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Fantasy is he going to be like your? Superstar probably.

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NOT i definitely would Take stenburgh and some of the

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other guys ahead of. Him BUT i think he's one

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of these guys Whom michael little later it might get

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a little, forgotten AND i think he's gonna be one

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of the guys that you want to kind of champion

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with one of your second round picks or later, picks

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depending on how big your draft, is BECAUSE i think

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he's gonna outperform what a lot of people think of

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him in terms of his expectations is WHAT i. Think.

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Speaker 3: Wow invoking The Michael jordan draft, PICTURE i love, it

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AND i gotta say THAT i believe for, ONE i

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for one am willing to go on a stand and

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say That gavin McKenna will have a BETTER nhl career

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Than Sam bouie had AN nba, career of, course famously

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drafted ahead Of, jordan McKennon probably will go at or

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near the top of the, draft and he had himself

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a good. TOURNAMENT i, KNOW i came in and, SAID

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i don't trust draft eligibles in the.

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Speaker 4: World.

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Speaker 3: JUNIOR i said that on this podcast a couple weeks,

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ago UNLESS i delete all copies of that episode and

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then nobody will ever. Know but fourteen points in seven

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games is pretty good from the young. Man he showed.

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Out he was the second leading scorer in the. Tournament

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certainly a good data point after all we've heard for

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months is that McKenna, Is, oh he's not doing as

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much At Penn state as we, thought and it's not

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like he was in previous. YEARS i don't know is

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Obviously stenberg is showing, out he's blown up in a big.

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Way but felt like McKenna did a lot at this

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tournament to show his skill For Team canada and as a,

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prospect does this gaudy point total match what you saw

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in terms of Performance and where are you at on

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McKenna right?

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Speaker 4: Now? Jordan, Yeah so you feel silly at times saying

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that someone who had two points a game over of

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course seven of a seven game, tournament whatever it, was

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you feel silly saying that you were left wanting a

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little bit. More but that's what it is and or

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what it was and what it always seems to be

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this year with, McKenna he's he is still the most

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talented player in the draft and probably like by quite

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a bit. Too that being, said if you look at

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where's production. Came it had a hat trick Against. Denmark,

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okay two points Against. Latvia look At latvia is. Good

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they Took canada, overtime but it's Still. LATVIA i mean

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they also Beat canada last, year but still it was Still.

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Latvia and then four points in the bronze medal. Game

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AND i know it's a bronze medal, game but, no

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if you no one cares about the bronze medal game,

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Really AND i just look at some of the other,

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games whether it's the semi final game against The. Czechs

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you look at The New Year's eve game against The

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finns that Bodwan lyn was playing like twenty minutes a

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night Because Dale hunter trusted, them and you look at where's.

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Mcmay it's the play away from the, puck as you guys,

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mentioned is. Concerning it's not with you look at guys

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Like Patrick kine or guys who are smaller wingers who

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are offense, first and you're willing to accept a certain

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level of indifference or weakness away from the puck because

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what they give you in production and puck possession and

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control and everything is just so, good and you might

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and that's what you have to do with. McKenna that being, said,

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though if you look at in THE nc DOUBLE a

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is he? Blowing is that production so good that you

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can look past the other? Issues it's not this, year

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and in some of the bigger moments in this tournament

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it was the production wasn't good. Enough and so then

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you start to look. Out if he's not producing and

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and he's just doing a drive by and a little

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bit of a swing of a stick to at guy

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who's carrying the puck just and that's his way of playing,

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defense you have to start to, think, okay if he

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isn't a ninety plus point, player and he's more of

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a sixty to seventy point, player but he's really weak

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defensively and away from the, puck and he doesn't compete

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as well as he needs. To that's a big difference

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between going first overall and maybe going eighth. Overall i'm

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not saying he's going to go, eighth but that's what

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that player would Be, Yeah LIKE i, mentioned, four like

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fourteen points has nothing to sneeze, at and a lot

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of his points were really nice looking to a high

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degree of skill. Anticipation the hat Trick golie had Against

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denmark where he just waited the goalie out and went

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around and then got behind the net and just tucked

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it like that was just. Incredible but, yeah look at

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this and he starts to, Think, man when things really

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get difficult and you don't have your a game or

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you're in the, playoffs is he still going to be

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able to? Shine AND i think there's a lot of

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people who left who have been feeling maybe that he

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won't by watching him this. Year so, yeah that's kind

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of my take on The kenna.

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Speaker 3: Victor how about, you gat.

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Speaker 1: McKenna, YEAH i agree so much with. That when the

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THING i think so much of us who are looking

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for in this tournament is when push comes to, shove

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when it gets, hard when the ice gets tight and

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the checking gets, tight does he? Excel AND i think

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the clear answer here was, no he did. Not he

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had some amazing moments and he's super skilled with the.

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PUCK i totally, agree and to, me it reminds me

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a lot Of Patty. Kane would you Want patty can

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or your fantasy? Team of, course no one's saying that

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as long as he can get good enough, defensively or

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if his offense is that good, offensively then none of

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this other stuff is going to matter all that. Much

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but the reality is that the trust from the coach

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and a lot of these other issues might matter a

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little bit and might make it hard for him to

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translate all of. That and truly it is concerning that

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he hasn't risen when the occasion has called for, It

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and that's, concerning right some of THE i don't THINK

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i think he's going to be a bus but some

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of the busts who have flamed out are because of,

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that because they've only produced in those low leverage situations

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against inferior, opponents and they beat up and stack their.

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Points now that hasn't entirely been true for. McKenna i'm

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not trying to create that, narrative but it is a

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little concerning that he hasn't done better when his team

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has really needed him the, most and that's a little bit.

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Concerning in the Recent journey article THAT i, WROTE i

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still gave him a stock up BECAUSE i think he

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had the fourth most points by a draft Eligible canadian

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and world junior, history Behind, Badar, lindras And. Tavars that's

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some pretty elite. Company it's nothing to sneeze, at but

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it is against mostly against the weaker, opponents and that's

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a little bit. Concerning AND i know the bronze medal

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game it's. HARD i know you can say it doesn't.

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MATTER i know it's hard to get up for, that

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but the reality is that it was still good to see,

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that even though it would have been nice to see

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that in the semi finals a little bit. More but

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the reality is that he is a draft eligible AND

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i Think i'm a little bit of slack for maybe

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not quite all the way there in terms of his

475
00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,880
development and in terms of his two hundred foot, Game

476
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,400
LIKE i think some of that is going to. Come

477
00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,400
AND i still think at this, point if you had

478
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:13,559
to do a fantasy, rank he's probably still number. ONE

479
00:23:13,559 --> 00:23:15,400
i don't think anyone has more points upside than he,

480
00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,519
does Even. STENBERG i think they're. SIMILAR i think in

481
00:23:18,559 --> 00:23:22,640
many ways you might consider McKenna similar To bidard And

482
00:23:22,759 --> 00:23:26,640
stenberg more similar To, celebrini and in that, situation it's

483
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,200
a little bit more. Interesting which one do you want

484
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,240
probably depends a little bit on the league and what

485
00:23:30,279 --> 00:23:34,319
the context, is but THAT i think that while it

486
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,440
was a little disappointing and there was maybe a little

487
00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,680
bit of him falling a little, BIT i still think

488
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,279
he's incredible and someone that you're gonna want on your,

489
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:45,559
team and maybe that helps. You if you get McKenna

490
00:23:45,599 --> 00:23:47,400
at three or four in your fantasy, league you'll be.

491
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,279
Laughing you'll be, laughing AND i think you'll be very. Happy,

492
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,359
wow that's one.

493
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,599
Speaker 3: Possibility but what amazing thing it would be if he

494
00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:02,319
fell in A Shane wright like. Way votech Chi has.

495
00:24:02,599 --> 00:24:04,839
BOY i wish he could come To wisconsin because Chi

496
00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,359
has would be a Great wisconsin. Name as far As i'm,

497
00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,160
concerned he was a great check in this. Tournament couldn't

498
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,480
have done much more than he. Did, he Like connor,

499
00:24:13,559 --> 00:24:16,079
McDavid was named THE mvp of the, tournament even though

500
00:24:16,079 --> 00:24:18,480
he was on the losing. Side he is A king's,

501
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:21,160
prospect drafted at the end of round two last. Year

502
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:25,160
a decent, sized tough left. Winger forty eight hours after

503
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,200
getting a silver medal In, minnesota he racked up two

504
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:32,839
assists in HIS whl. Debut was Chi haas's tournament of

505
00:24:33,039 --> 00:24:36,559
twelve points in seven? Games was this, legit that's difficulty

506
00:24:36,599 --> 00:24:38,279
points when you do that for the. Checks by the,

507
00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:41,160
way how good of a prospect is votech Chi?

508
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,599
Speaker 4: Haas, Yeah, so, look he had a good, tournament and

509
00:24:44,839 --> 00:24:47,039
he actually had a lot of his points OR i

510
00:24:47,079 --> 00:24:48,799
had to pop up. THERE a lot of his points

511
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:51,119
actually in the biggest. Moments so those two, here that

512
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,880
huge goal Versus canada in the semifinals and then the

513
00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,079
empty netter to is, It and those are big. Moments

514
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,279
put up an assist in that kind of last minute,

515
00:24:59,319 --> 00:25:02,200
goal and checks made it kind of something at the

516
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:06,240
end in the gold medal. GAME i don't. Like, look

517
00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:08,079
it was an excellent tournament for. HIM i thought he

518
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,000
played well. Everywhere he scored nice, goals he scored the

519
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,759
hard work. GOALS i thought he. CHECKED i thought HE

520
00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,640
i thought his play away from the puck was. Solid

521
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:17,359
at last year when we scouted, HIM i THINK i

522
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,079
had him in the late, second early, third AND i

523
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,440
felt the same, way like a well rounded. Player not

524
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,880
so sure he stands out in any. WAY i don't

525
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:30,319
think this tournament has raised his ceiling as to who

526
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,039
he could be in THE nhl from a fantasy points,

527
00:25:33,079 --> 00:25:36,240
perspective BUT i do think that it raised his floor

528
00:25:36,279 --> 00:25:39,000
a little bit AND i think it maybe raised the

529
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:42,720
probability that he makes the NHL's he was having a

530
00:25:42,759 --> 00:25:45,240
good year in The Extra league there and now he

531
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,440
gets To now he's in THE, whl WHICH i love

532
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:50,759
when players come over, there they get more just more

533
00:25:50,839 --> 00:25:53,880
ice time in. General and, Look colone is. Hosting he's With, colona,

534
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,400
CORRECT i think they're hosting The Immemorial. Cup they'll be

535
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:59,759
great for. Him but, yeah from, overall like a really good.

536
00:25:59,759 --> 00:26:03,400
Turnnament LIKE i, said he produced when it mattered, most

537
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,960
and he was consistent throughout the, tournament and, YEAH i

538
00:26:07,039 --> 00:26:09,440
think HE'LL i don't think that he's going to be

539
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,720
a sixty point player in THE, nhl BUT i think

540
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,960
his chance to make THE nhl have gone. Up so,

541
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,079
yeah a good tournament from, him, Though victor chi.

542
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: Has, yeah, definitely this is someone WHO i definitely didn't

543
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,279
know a lot about until the. TOURNAMENT i think he

544
00:26:27,599 --> 00:26:29,440
definitely rose the occasion, though AND i echo a lot

545
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,079
Of jordan said that goal Against canada was the individual

546
00:26:34,079 --> 00:26:38,319
effort was incredible like the moment and everything attached to,

547
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,200
It give the Give canada full marks came back and tied.

548
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,119
It after, THAT i thought that was. IT i, thought oh,

549
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:45,680
boy that's the. Dagger but then he actually also put

550
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,559
the dagger with the empty, netter as you, mentioned so

551
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,519
the MOMENT i think him winning all of. That totally.

552
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:52,960
AGREE i think this is also one of those classic

553
00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:57,960
situations where the perceived value of chea house right now

554
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,079
is higher than will ever. BE i don't. THINK i.

555
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,599
AGREE i don't think he's pin And chilli right now

556
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240
is like, eighty which there's no way he's going to

557
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,079
be an eighty point. PLAYER i don't. Think so this

558
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,000
is the time to sell a player like this BECAUSE

559
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:13,359
i agree he probably will be like based on this

560
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,279
tournament and based on his trajectory stock up to be

561
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,960
a bottom sixer, maybe but is he going to be

562
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,200
a significant? Contributor probably, Not so sell. Them and maybe

563
00:27:23,319 --> 00:27:25,319
you have some check fans in your league or someone

564
00:27:25,319 --> 00:27:27,920
who likes this player and was really impressed by what they,

565
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,759
saw because, hey there is still a, chance BUT i

566
00:27:29,839 --> 00:27:32,519
just don't think it's very. Likely and you could if

567
00:27:32,559 --> 00:27:35,160
you could get a solid sixty to seventy point player

568
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,359
out of. IT i would do, that and this is

569
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,119
the time of year where you want to make those

570
00:27:39,160 --> 00:27:41,519
moves because people have this fresh in their, mind and,

571
00:27:41,559 --> 00:27:44,160
hey it was all pretty impressive and good for the good,

572
00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,839
man for the young. Man but, YEAH i don't think

573
00:27:45,839 --> 00:27:48,079
it's going to BE i don't think he's going to

574
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:48,759
be a star in THE.

575
00:27:48,839 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 3: NHL i don't know if you'll find a check fan

576
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,319
in your, League. Victor But latvian fans their legion And

577
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,279
Albert schmidts is their man right. Now he is bowing

578
00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:04,359
up in draft, rankings in draft, talk a big old.

579
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:08,319
Defenseman five points in five games For latvia and again

580
00:28:08,759 --> 00:28:11,200
not debang On, lafia Because lafia has had some pretty

581
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,839
good moments these last couple of. Years but five points

582
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,319
in five games point per game For, lafia that is a.

583
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,559
Challenge only twelve goals were scored By lafia in those five,

584
00:28:21,799 --> 00:28:25,079
games And smith's had a point on five of those.

585
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,799
Twelve he is one of the next big prospects in the,

586
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,640
draft some say the Best latvian prospects since Maybe Santis Oz.

587
00:28:32,759 --> 00:28:36,920
Lynch Remember Santas. Oslinch i've watched Those avalanche teams back.

588
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,440
Then he's a big old d man playing north of

589
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:42,319
The baltic In liga right, now so he's over In.

590
00:28:42,359 --> 00:28:45,920
Finland how Did smith's look to? You and how good

591
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:46,960
can this young man?

592
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:50,759
Speaker 4: Be? Yeah so it's like you, Mentioned latvia is a

593
00:28:50,839 --> 00:28:53,000
much better team over the last couple of, years and

594
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:57,240
historically they belong in the tournament, absolutely AND i want

595
00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:01,000
to make that. Clear that being, said they're generally still

596
00:29:01,039 --> 00:29:02,519
not a good. Team there are a couple moments where

597
00:29:02,519 --> 00:29:04,839
they are games where they just got absolutely. Crushed but

598
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,759
man to put up five points when they only score twelve.

599
00:29:07,799 --> 00:29:09,880
GOALS i do need to put the. Qualifier AND i

600
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,559
believe every single one of his, points maybe except for,

601
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,400
one BUT i think everyone was on the power. Play

602
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,119
but still you don't see many draft eligible defensemen playing

603
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:24,279
on the team's power play one and, Producing so that that's.

604
00:29:24,279 --> 00:29:27,400
Excellent he's been great this year he's been playing In.

605
00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:31,319
Liga he loves real. Minutes this isn't a guy who

606
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,480
this isn't that seventh defenseman in THE khl who gets

607
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:38,359
thirty six seconds of ice time and when the game

608
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,519
is eight to one, Already, no he plays real top

609
00:29:41,559 --> 00:29:44,640
four minutes In. Liga and he WAS i think he

610
00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,839
was a leading point getter for as well in as.

611
00:29:46,839 --> 00:29:51,039
Tournament he's, big he's, physical he moves very. Well he's

612
00:29:51,039 --> 00:29:53,920
got a hard, shot he can make, plays can move.

613
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,400
PUCKS i think he HAD i think his time on

614
00:29:57,519 --> 00:30:00,559
ice logs were something like twenty two to twenty, six twenty,

615
00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:03,359
three twenty, two twenty one. Minutes like he was the

616
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,799
guy played a, Ton and when you're playing For, lavia

617
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,880
it means you're playing a. Ton you means you're playing

618
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,400
a lot in your own, end and those aren't the

619
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,400
most fun minutes to, play and you're probably eating a

620
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,400
lot of. Pucks but he did, it and he did

621
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,359
it with style as. WELL i think that he's going

622
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:19,640
to be rising right. Now At Dauber, prospects we have

623
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:23,160
an eleventh. OVERALL i personally thought that was too, low

624
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880
but we do make sure that we get a majority

625
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,720
opinion on. Things i'm willing to say that next time

626
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:31,559
around we, rank he's going to be closer To he's

627
00:30:31,559 --> 00:30:34,000
probably going to be closer to five than he is. Eleven, so,

628
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,920
yeah he was excellent in his, tournament and yeah he's

629
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:39,640
making a real push to climb in the.

630
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 3: Draft, victor you said in the pre tournament period that

631
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:48,880
there were No lapians on the roster with no s's

632
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,359
in their. Name Albert smith's has. Three tell us what

633
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,319
you thought of him in the.

634
00:30:53,319 --> 00:30:58,519
Speaker 1: Tournament, yeah none of the other players can have s's

635
00:30:58,519 --> 00:31:00,519
in their names because love have them. All THAT'S i

636
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,799
just have the corner of the market on. Them, Yeah,

637
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,119
ALBERT i definitely agree with What jordan. Said it's interesting

638
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,000
you brought Up Santa Zozo lynch, too BECAUSE i remember

639
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,200
watching him growing up A sharks, fan AND i Think

640
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,079
Albert smiths could not be more different Than Santaso's. Lynch

641
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,240
LIKE i remember watching him and thinking every time he

642
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,279
was out, there someone was going to. Score he was

643
00:31:22,319 --> 00:31:24,440
going to create something or get scored. On he was

644
00:31:24,519 --> 00:31:26,799
just he was an agent of chaos and he was really,

645
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:32,079
good but not always the most sound responsible, defensively And

646
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:33,960
smith's is the opposite of. THAT i think he's just

647
00:31:34,039 --> 00:31:36,240
he's very, steady he's very. STRONG i don't know that

648
00:31:36,279 --> 00:31:39,359
he's the most dynamic. OFFENSIVELY i think he. Has he

649
00:31:39,599 --> 00:31:41,759
certainly wasn't able to really show that in this, tournament

650
00:31:41,759 --> 00:31:43,400
As jordan, said like they didn't really have a lot

651
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,880
of talent around. Him it was basically him and a

652
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,359
bunch of, guys and he at times try to do too,

653
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,319
much which is, fine get out there and show what

654
00:31:51,359 --> 00:31:53,319
you can, do because you're not going to win most

655
00:31:53,359 --> 00:31:55,839
likely many games, anyway so why not just show what

656
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,200
you can? Do and he can do a. LOT i

657
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:59,759
think it's really impressive what he's doing so, far and

658
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:03,559
that he's playing up in u create in The liga

659
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,319
and twelve points and thirty, games there is nothing to sneeze.

660
00:32:06,319 --> 00:32:09,359
AT i have Our Fantasy Hockey life skater card up

661
00:32:09,359 --> 00:32:11,880
and you can, see like his transition game In liga

662
00:32:12,039 --> 00:32:15,680
is exceptional and for a draft eligible that's really. Impressive

663
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:19,079
he's also winning ninety six percent of his puck, battles

664
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,559
he's good on loosepuck, recovery he's play driving his bash

665
00:32:23,599 --> 00:32:27,039
as seventy three. Percent like all this is incredible considering

666
00:32:27,079 --> 00:32:29,960
he's playing in a men's league as a really young

667
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,960
as a, teenager and he's a little bit of an

668
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,119
older Teenager december. Second BUT i don't think you can

669
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,319
hold that against. Him it just helps him where he.

670
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,599
IS i think some people. SAID i heard someone, say

671
00:32:39,799 --> 00:32:41,559
is he the next Most? Sider AND i was, LIKE

672
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,799
i don't know if he's like maybe in terms of

673
00:32:44,839 --> 00:32:47,839
like from a less well known country and like super. Solid,

674
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:50,559
SURE i don't know if there's similarities beyond. THAT i

675
00:32:50,559 --> 00:32:53,200
don't think he's as mean and nasty As cider has

676
00:32:53,279 --> 00:32:55,880
shown himself to. Be he hits a fair, amount but

677
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,079
that's not necessarily his calling. CARD i just think he's

678
00:32:58,119 --> 00:33:00,880
one of these super solid, guys and if you're drafting

679
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,839
in the five to ten, RANGE i think you might

680
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,440
be pretty happy With Albert smith's on your team BECAUSE

681
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,240
i think he's a guy who's clearly going to. PLAY

682
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,039
i just don't know if he has as much offense

683
00:33:11,079 --> 00:33:13,200
as you might want for, fantasy but he'll be a

684
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,680
solid contributor and someone that in terms of if it's

685
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,920
a deep enough, DYNASTY i think you'll be super happy

686
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,000
With smith's if you're looking for a ton of, offense

687
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:23,440
that's a little.

688
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:23,640
Speaker 4: Bit.

689
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: SO i think that's really just where the questions are

690
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,480
going to, come and we might not know until he

691
00:33:28,519 --> 00:33:32,480
gets more opportunity. There but he's definitely going to play

692
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,599
in THE. NHL i don't think there's any question about. That.

693
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,759
Speaker 4: Victor IF i could quickly just add a couple of

694
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:42,000
more things Onto smith's is he's going to play a

695
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:46,880
lot of minutes in THE, nhl AND i don't know

696
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,160
if he's got the offensive upside to run a first

697
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:53,759
power play. Unit that being, said, though just by virtue

698
00:33:53,799 --> 00:33:56,319
of playing as much as he, will he's going to get.

699
00:33:56,400 --> 00:33:59,480
POINTS i look At Simon edvinson last. Year in his last,

700
00:33:59,559 --> 00:34:01,839
year he didn't he might have played a total ten

701
00:34:01,839 --> 00:34:04,440
minutes on the power playoff, season still put up thirty

702
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,119
five thirty six points or, so just because he played so.

703
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,679
Much and if you look at guys who do play a,

704
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,639
lot and if they play a lot when their team's,

705
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,760
leading you get a chance to be out there when

706
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,840
the other team has their goalie, polls you might get

707
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,159
a you might get an empty netter or an empty

708
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,639
net assist there as. Well AND i don't know if

709
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,519
for for folks who are in leagues where they value

710
00:34:24,599 --> 00:34:27,679
hits and blocks and all the other, stuff getting a

711
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,119
guy who is probably going to rack up a bunch

712
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,679
of those in addition to putting up. Points it's just

713
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,760
a different flavor of defenseman than what you with The quinn.

714
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:37,559
Use but, yeah, no he's a good.

715
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 1: Player all.

716
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:40,599
Speaker 3: Right let's take a brief break come.

717
00:34:40,639 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: Back there's a.

718
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:47,199
Speaker 4: Weapon that you, know.

719
00:34:48,760 --> 00:35:02,039
Speaker 2: Sockets and miss name on. It six point sea twenty

720
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,320
four shots that he put up a little seventy, games

721
00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:07,840
another big piece of those silver medal.

722
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,840
Speaker 3: Checks he's a big old right. Shock the younger, brother

723
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,559
of course Of. David You're achek and a twenty twenty

724
00:35:15,599 --> 00:35:18,159
four first round pick of The Saint Louis. Blues he

725
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,559
plays up with jac, O'Brien Caleb, malhotra And Jet luchenko

726
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:26,039
on the Powerhouse Branford bulldogs of THE. Ohl San louis's

727
00:35:26,039 --> 00:35:29,000
blue line isn't getting younger right, now although they did

728
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:32,159
just Sign Philip robert for a. Bag Did adam your

729
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,480
check do anything in this tournament to, You jordan to

730
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,280
success that suggests that BIG nhl success is just.

731
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 1: Ahead, YEAH i think he.

732
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 4: Did AND i just want to Say Adam yrchek's been

733
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,840
a guy WHO i really liked him coming into his draft,

734
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,760
season but it's been very difficult to evaluate him since,

735
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,239
then or since the start of his draft. Season he

736
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,840
got injured IN i think much like his older brother.

737
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,360
DID i think they both had knee injuries at The

738
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,559
World juniors in their draft, seasons so he missed a

739
00:36:02,599 --> 00:36:04,639
lot of. Games it was. Toughness it was tough to

740
00:36:04,639 --> 00:36:06,320
get a good gauge on. HIM i think that's why he.

741
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,400
Fell then last year he comes over to THE. Ohl

742
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:12,920
there's a transition, there and then now he's on a

743
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,840
team that like they print, money basically they print. Points

744
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,559
they've got what five first rounders now and in addition

745
00:36:20,639 --> 00:36:24,480
To Adam banak and Killed. Malcultra Obviously banak was not

746
00:36:24,519 --> 00:36:26,719
a first, rounder but he's still a highly skilled. Named

747
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,039
malcultra will be a first rounder this. Year so It's

748
00:36:30,639 --> 00:36:36,639
i've always struggled separating out what can he be Versus,

749
00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:38,599
oh my, gosh there's so much hell on this. Team

750
00:36:38,639 --> 00:36:40,519
he's just going to get a million points because everyone

751
00:36:40,519 --> 00:36:43,159
else did or does as. Well so at this, TOURNAMENT

752
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,159
i think he really showed what he has and what

753
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,599
he can. Be that goal he scored against The fins

754
00:36:51,039 --> 00:36:55,920
in the preliminary game was. UNBELIEVABLE i don't know why

755
00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:57,719
he was all alone in the front of the net

756
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:01,199
there being a, defenseman but he, was and his teammate

757
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,079
hit him with the pass and he just went right

758
00:37:04,079 --> 00:37:06,079
between the legs and roofed it. There did we get

759
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:06,599
a touchdown?

760
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:12,679
Speaker 1: There, Victor, no, sorry just a big. Play sorry it

761
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:14,280
looked like it might be for a, second but it.

762
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 4: Was oh, no that's, funny but. No, look he showed

763
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,480
a high end offensive upside in the gold medal. Game

764
00:37:20,639 --> 00:37:22,719
he rang one right off with the left post there

765
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,079
on a rocket of a. SHOT i thought he defended

766
00:37:26,079 --> 00:37:28,800
pretty well at this. Tournament he's got, size he skates,

767
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,480
well he's got real two way. UPSIDE i don't think

768
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,000
he's as mean As, smiths's BUT i think he's got

769
00:37:34,039 --> 00:37:37,639
more offense than, him and provided that things continued to

770
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:39,400
go well for, him He's he should be a guy

771
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,679
who plays a top a top four role on AN

772
00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,880
nhl team and logs a bunch of, Minutes and given

773
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,760
what we saw at the, tournament he might be a

774
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,960
guy who can run a first power, play probably at

775
00:37:50,039 --> 00:37:53,119
least a number two second. Units SO i think he's

776
00:37:53,119 --> 00:37:55,480
got a lot of, potential AND i think that leagues

777
00:37:55,559 --> 00:37:57,960
that value more than just. POINTS i think he'll be

778
00:37:58,000 --> 00:37:59,039
a good pick up as, Well.

779
00:38:01,119 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: Victor what should think Of Adam.

780
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: EUROCHEK i hate to keep SAYING i agree With, jordan

781
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:09,039
but he knows what he's talking. About but the THING

782
00:38:09,079 --> 00:38:11,199
i think that's most interesting About adam And i've been

783
00:38:11,199 --> 00:38:12,920
a big Year check. FAN i think everyone knows that

784
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,199
both year, checks even Though david's struggling right. Now and

785
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:17,199
that goal, also as you, said was goal of the.

786
00:38:17,199 --> 00:38:19,079
TOURNAMENT i think Before chi has did what he did

787
00:38:19,079 --> 00:38:20,920
and the only thing that was more impressive was because

788
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,079
of the moment and the. Stakes but the Year check

789
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:25,719
goal was. INCREDIBLE i think the thing THAT i most

790
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:28,119
want to see fromhim BECAUSE i agree like he's everything

791
00:38:28,159 --> 00:38:30,719
you said hard to evaluate from where he started in

792
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:33,199
Check ya to coming over in The ohl being. Injured

793
00:38:33,199 --> 00:38:34,480
it was, LIKE i don't know what to make of this,

794
00:38:34,519 --> 00:38:37,280
guy haven't really seen. Enough and then you saw what

795
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,119
he hit In branford the first part of the season

796
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:41,559
and was just Like branford's a. Wagon what DO i

797
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,559
make of? This he looks, Great everyone looks. Great the

798
00:38:43,559 --> 00:38:46,039
whole freaking team looks like an all star. TEAM i

799
00:38:46,119 --> 00:38:48,159
really wanted to see what he did in this, tournament

800
00:38:48,199 --> 00:38:50,719
and it really impressed me what he did in the

801
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,880
non offensive, minutes like he was like their shutdown, Guy

802
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,719
like he really played tough. Minutes he blocked a ton of,

803
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,280
shots he gave up his. Body he, yeah he was

804
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,320
good offensively spoiler, ALERT i Think Tommy galvis was. BETTER

805
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:05,079
i don't think that's necessarily controversial at this. Point he

806
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:07,440
was really exceptional in that. Role BUT i think they

807
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239
wanted to lean lean on Ear check a little bit

808
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,639
more for those all around minutes and those shutdown, minutes

809
00:39:12,679 --> 00:39:15,599
and he did exactly what he needed to, DO i,

810
00:39:15,599 --> 00:39:18,400
think to show to. EVERYONE i don't necessarily think this

811
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:20,239
was his, point but he showed a lot of PEOPLE

812
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,360
i can play in every. SITUATION i can play, up,

813
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,760
down trailing, LEADING i can shut, DOWN i can. Create

814
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:28,719
that's what impressed me the most about What ercheck did

815
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,199
is that he really solidified himself as more of an

816
00:39:31,199 --> 00:39:34,519
all around, guy AND i think that really helped me,

817
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:37,599
help in my, eyes raise his stock BECAUSE i do

818
00:39:37,639 --> 00:39:40,679
think he's one of those guys who should run a power.

819
00:39:40,679 --> 00:39:43,199
Play but also it's always a question with those, guys,

820
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,119
right and they should run a power, play but are

821
00:39:45,159 --> 00:39:47,400
they third pair top power, play because that's very different

822
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,719
from top pair top power. Play, right that's the minutes

823
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,480
and the situation and the points and everything is completely.

824
00:39:52,519 --> 00:39:54,920
Different AND i don't know that he's top pair top power,

825
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,880
play BUT i think he's at least top, four as you,

826
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,079
said top power. Play at least he should get that,

827
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:02,800
opportunity AND i wasn't so sure about that before coming into,

828
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:04,960
this despite what he's done At, branford And i'm more,

829
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,880
convinced and it just seems like they're going to have

830
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,880
that opportunity for him soon In Saint, louis and so that's.

831
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,000
Exciting even though they have some other, OPTIONS i think that,

832
00:40:12,119 --> 00:40:14,880
ultimately when he is, ready that will be. His and,

833
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,880
YEAH i was really impressed by. HIM i don't think

834
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,239
his offense is crazy, dynamic BUT i think he's one

835
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,679
of those guys that certainly deserves a shot to be the,

836
00:40:23,679 --> 00:40:26,079
man AND i think the rest of his game has

837
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,440
caught up to where his offense had shown, initially and

838
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,559
so for that, Reason i'm pretty excited about him and

839
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:32,840
thought that he did a really good.

840
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 3: Job stenberg is the hotness of the, moment but let

841
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,960
us not forget About Anton, frondell who helped That swedish

842
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:44,519
team to their championship as well ten points to seven,

843
00:40:44,599 --> 00:40:47,639
games second in shots in the tournament in thirty. One

844
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,840
when he's not an international, Play frondell is AT Jr,

845
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,559
gardens the team he's been with SINCE u sixteen's he's

846
00:40:53,559 --> 00:40:56,079
been playing his way up there in THE. Shl now

847
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,079
he's been excellent for such a long. Time he was

848
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:01,880
a huge rise draft talk last year until he ended

849
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,639
up going number three. Overall friendal's the strong up the

850
00:41:05,639 --> 00:41:09,480
middle guy THAT nhl team's, crave and yet he's a little.

851
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:13,119
Bit he's drafted By. CHICAGO i feel like he's one

852
00:41:13,159 --> 00:41:15,800
of those out of, sight out of mind prospects that

853
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,599
we're waiting to see when he's going to show up

854
00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,079
and what he's going to be able to do with that.

855
00:41:19,159 --> 00:41:22,280
Team what do you think of Seeing Anton frondell and

856
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:26,400
the best on BEST u twenty? Competition jordan in what's

857
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:27,760
your take on where this guy is?

858
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,679
Speaker 4: Headed, yeah SO i think two things stood out for

859
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:37,360
me With. Brondel the first being the absolutely rifle he

860
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,719
has and this wasn't, new like we all knew. This

861
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,840
that's his calling. Card he's got that big, shot and

862
00:41:44,159 --> 00:41:46,800
The swedes were, looking especially when they're on the power,

863
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,199
play they're looking to set him up pretty much any

864
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,320
chance they can. Get they probably overdid. IT i feel

865
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,679
like when you have so much success early, on you

866
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,440
maybe can d be or go away from that and

867
00:41:56,639 --> 00:41:58,440
just his other guys are probably going to be open as,

868
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,280
well and then maybe go back to that. Afterwards but,

869
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,519
look the shot was. Big he scored some unbelievably beautiful.

870
00:42:04,559 --> 00:42:08,000
GOALS i thought he competed. Well. THOUGHT i thought that

871
00:42:08,079 --> 00:42:10,920
top line really did, well especially once they made the

872
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,679
switch at center, there AND i thought he was good all.

873
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:16,559
Tournament the production slowed down a little bit as it went,

874
00:42:16,599 --> 00:42:19,079
along BUT i thought he had a great. Tournament the

875
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:21,480
second thing that stood, out AND i teased it a

876
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:23,599
bit there once they made the switch at, center is

877
00:42:23,639 --> 00:42:26,440
that he wasn't playing, center and he never did in that.

878
00:42:26,519 --> 00:42:29,480
Tournament at first it Was Eric, nielsen he's At Michigan

879
00:42:29,519 --> 00:42:32,920
state this, year formerly of Year gordon, though and then

880
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,639
they ended up bring UP i Think Lenis erickson the

881
00:42:36,679 --> 00:42:38,599
rest of the, tournament and that's when things really took

882
00:42:38,639 --> 00:42:43,000
off for that. Line BUT i always thought that it

883
00:42:43,079 --> 00:42:45,800
was very interesting to see l playing on the wing

884
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,280
in this. Tournament he's been playing on the wing mostly

885
00:42:48,559 --> 00:42:52,039
in pro, hockey something THAT i, Thought, okay it's stout

886
00:42:52,079 --> 00:42:53,519
have to be a, Center but at the same, time

887
00:42:53,519 --> 00:42:55,440
he's an eighteen year old playing against men like it's

888
00:42:55,519 --> 00:42:57,840
very difficult to play down the, middle SO i get.

889
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,760
It BUT i figured in this tournament against his own,

890
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:05,800
peers he'd be down the, Middle SO i think that is.

891
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:10,800
Interesting he was drafted to be that, bigger more complete

892
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,320
center in the event that The duard doesn't stick at. Center,

893
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,760
obviously he's got nuclear this, year so it might not.

894
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,360
Matter but there were times in the middle of last season

895
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,079
where people thought maybe The dard might just be a

896
00:43:22,119 --> 00:43:26,440
winger and Front dell was that typical six foot two

897
00:43:26,519 --> 00:43:30,360
hundred plus pound top six center that that teams. Want so, anyways,

898
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,639
yeah that he had a great. TOURNAMENT i wonder If

899
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:37,679
chicago feels a little bit differently about him now and

900
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,920
whether they think he's just just a. Winger still a

901
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,400
ton of room and road left in his. DEVELOPMENT i can't,

902
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,800
Remember jesse or whether it's you Or victor said that

903
00:43:47,079 --> 00:43:50,800
sometimes you don't like when when teams shoehorn their players

904
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,440
into playing, center and for fantasy perspective or fantasy, reasons

905
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,639
he'd like when they go to the. Wing this he

906
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:57,840
might be a player who does just.

907
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:03,199
Speaker 3: That, victor what do you think Of Antone?

908
00:44:03,199 --> 00:44:08,039
Speaker 1: Frondelle, YEAH i think that this is maybe a slight

909
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,360
disagreement we could. Have but just in the sense THAT

910
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,400
i always Thought frondelle was going to be a. WINGER

911
00:44:12,599 --> 00:44:16,599
i never really saw him that well in terms of

912
00:44:16,639 --> 00:44:19,840
the play, driving in terms of he's everything you, said

913
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,760
Everything jordan said about the getting open and the shot

914
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,239
is like his calling. Card could he round out the

915
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:28,920
rest of his game and drive. Play, certainly anything's, possible

916
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,519
but it's just SOMETHING i hadn't really, seen and SO

917
00:44:30,519 --> 00:44:31,719
i always thought of him as a, Winger and it

918
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:33,679
was interesting how many people talked of him as a.

919
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:36,039
Center and you look at some of his tracking, date

920
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:38,440
even though he's had success in THE, shl like his

921
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,119
transition game is really not that. Good neither her is

922
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:44,159
expected net expected goals Or, coarsey and so you'd like,

923
00:44:44,199 --> 00:44:46,960
Wonder but then when he's around the, net his expected

924
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,079
goals offensively go really. High his shots every time he

925
00:44:50,119 --> 00:44:52,599
gets a, shot he has a higher expected goal per

926
00:44:52,639 --> 00:44:54,599
shot than most of the other players on his. Team

927
00:44:54,639 --> 00:44:56,800
so you clearly see where his strength is right and

928
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,079
so that all makes. SENSE i think see the he

929
00:45:00,599 --> 00:45:03,440
compliment to some of those top players there they have In,

930
00:45:03,519 --> 00:45:06,000
Chicago but that was always a worry of. Mine is

931
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,360
like they're gonna try to make him a. CENTER i

932
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:08,320
don't know that's gonna.

933
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 3: Go.

934
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,679
Speaker 1: Well he showed enough in this, TOURNAMENT i, think to

935
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:14,119
be impressive. CLEARLY i thought it was interesting, though Watching

936
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:18,119
byork And, stenberg WHO i just thought were clearly better

937
00:45:18,199 --> 00:45:21,559
all around Than, frondell and it was good to see

938
00:45:21,559 --> 00:45:24,119
them get some. Recognition but it was interesting how many

939
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:27,039
Accolades frondelle still got because it reminded me of The

940
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:30,400
lacaramaki when he got top forward and it was like

941
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:32,960
the guy was invisible except when he was ready on

942
00:45:33,039 --> 00:45:35,239
cork his, shot AND i don't Think frondell was quite

943
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,880
that invisible at, times like he definitely fort checked and

944
00:45:39,079 --> 00:45:41,400
did some good work to get the puck. Back but

945
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,599
it was a little bit like that WHERE i Saw

946
00:45:43,639 --> 00:45:46,519
stenberg And byorck and some of the Other swedish forwards

947
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,079
doing a lot more of the dirty work to prolong,

948
00:45:49,159 --> 00:45:51,840
possessions to create, turnovers and to do a lot of

949
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,039
the really important stuff to make the help the team.

950
00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:57,599
Win and so that's always something that still bothers me

951
00:45:57,679 --> 00:45:59,639
a little bit About, frondell just in terms of he's

952
00:45:59,679 --> 00:46:01,880
gonna and what all means to me is that he

953
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,599
needs a very specific role to be, successful whereas some

954
00:46:04,639 --> 00:46:07,280
of these other, guys they can make the, opportunity it doesn't.

955
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,320
Matter BUT i think For frondell he needs a bit

956
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:13,440
of a, playmaker a bit of a creator to make some.

957
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:15,679
Space AND i Think nazzar could be the perfect guy for.

958
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,559
Him like it doesn't have to Be, bidard it could,

959
00:46:18,599 --> 00:46:21,159
be but it also could. Be they got some other options.

960
00:46:21,159 --> 00:46:23,760
There maybe Even Oliver more Or Ryan green has been

961
00:46:24,199 --> 00:46:26,519
looking really well this. Season maybe he could click with

962
00:46:26,559 --> 00:46:28,599
someone Like. Frondell SO i think that there's options, there

963
00:46:28,639 --> 00:46:30,039
BUT i think that it is going to require a

964
00:46:30,079 --> 00:46:32,840
little bit more of a certain situation For. Frondell even

965
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,079
though his shot is incredible and SO i think those

966
00:46:35,119 --> 00:46:36,800
still impressive to see against strong.

967
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:43,320
Speaker 3: Competition, okay now we're on To Will. Zeller's is this

968
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:46,320
the FIRST us player that we've covered in? HERE i

969
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:51,320
think it Is Will. Zeller's he was running hot seventeen,

970
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,920
shots five, goals eight points in five. Games he has

971
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,079
had a productive first year At North Dakota Colorado avalanche.

972
00:46:59,119 --> 00:47:03,760
Prospect he seems to be an offensive oriented. Sort was

973
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:08,880
this tournament a shooting percentage? Anomaly Is zeller's rising in the.

974
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:11,360
Ranks maybe you already liked, him maybe you already didn't like.

975
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:17,239
Him what do you think of this, Prospect? Jordan, Yeah

976
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:17,639
LIKE i.

977
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,039
Speaker 4: Think with the tournament this, short especially as short as

978
00:47:22,039 --> 00:47:24,440
it was for The, americans it's tough to say a

979
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:26,960
flash in the pan or. Whatever LIKE i, said a short,

980
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:30,840
tournament and the coaching staffs have to make, decisions and

981
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,280
if someone's just not working in a spot and someone

982
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,239
else is doing, well you go with the hot, hand

983
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,559
Right and As ZELLER'S i think he started as a thirteenth,

984
00:47:38,559 --> 00:47:40,239
forward maybe not in game, one but maybe in the

985
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,599
pre tournament, games but to that top line With Hagen,

986
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:49,000
zemer and they couldn't seem to get going at the,

987
00:47:49,079 --> 00:47:52,360
start And horcoff just couldn't seem to get, going so

988
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,960
they make the. Switch they Move zeller's starts to play

989
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,239
more and in a, scent and he's rewarded with the

990
00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,639
top line role there and he ran with. It he's

991
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,320
having a good, year like a really good year On No.

992
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,079
Dak that's a team that is a little bit different

993
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:08,119
than a lot of the other teams that get a

994
00:48:08,159 --> 00:48:11,679
lot of, Recognition like they play really controlled pro style.

995
00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,679
Game they're not really like a run and gun team

996
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:18,119
kind of thing, There so you often don't see guys

997
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:20,320
with like you won't see someone with forty points in

998
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,119
twenty eight games At NO. Dak usually they don't often

999
00:48:23,159 --> 00:48:27,239
have players who are that much more than a point per. Game. Keep,

1000
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,519
yeah HE'S i think he's definitely raised a stock with

1001
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,760
his tournament and with the success he's having in THE.

1002
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,760
NCUAA i don't know if he's if he's a future

1003
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,320
top line, player BUT i think he's a future middle

1004
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,400
six player and who just seems to do a lot

1005
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,159
of the stuff that gets you ice, time and that's

1006
00:48:45,199 --> 00:48:47,920
what you need to produce in THE nhl is TO

1007
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,639
a to make it and to be a to make

1008
00:48:50,639 --> 00:48:54,119
THE nhl AND b to see the. ICE i thought

1009
00:48:54,199 --> 00:48:59,320
that he didn't seem to LIKE i know you Mentioned

1010
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,840
victor with maybe needing a specific role to really. THRIVE

1011
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,880
i Think, ZELLERS i think that he can do it

1012
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,920
in different, ways and we saw it in this. Tournament so,

1013
00:49:09,039 --> 00:49:11,800
YEAH i, know a great tournament for him And.

1014
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 3: Victor what do you think of Old Will.

1015
00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: Zellers, yeah he was on A usa team that really

1016
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,000
lacked a lot of, talent AND i think a lot

1017
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:24,920
of the guys we thought were going to be really

1018
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:27,719
good tremendously. UNDERPERFORMED i think that was one of the

1019
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,320
most disappointing things was we had some top scoreres IN

1020
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:35,079
NC doublea who just didn't really do. Anything it was, like,

1021
00:49:35,320 --> 00:49:38,519
okay a bit disappointing that some of them didn't seem

1022
00:49:38,519 --> 00:49:40,719
to show. Up But zeller's was the clear exception. There

1023
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:44,119
he rose the occasion from thirteen forward like last, guy

1024
00:49:44,199 --> 00:49:47,639
into being one of their top. PERFORMERS i think at

1025
00:49:47,639 --> 00:49:52,679
times even outshining guys Like, hagens and clearly outshining guys

1026
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,639
Like plant And horkoff who were leading THE ncublea and

1027
00:49:56,639 --> 00:49:59,679
Scoring iiserman all these. Guys it was really impressive to

1028
00:50:00,079 --> 00:50:03,280
see that from. HIM i don't think he's someone that

1029
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:04,760
you need to run out and. GRAB i think that

1030
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:09,480
he raised his stock from DOUBTFUL nhl or to MAYBE.

1031
00:50:09,639 --> 00:50:13,840
NHLer i think somewhere along that spectrum maybe to probably

1032
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,679
or something like. That but he IS i think to

1033
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,559
What jordan was alluding. To he's just all. Effort he

1034
00:50:19,679 --> 00:50:21,920
makes things. Happen AND i was impressed with his. SHOT

1035
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,599
i did not think he had that good of a

1036
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,840
shot like he WAS i thought he was a scrappy

1037
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:28,519
like energy, guy which he, is but he also has

1038
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,880
a lot of skill, there WHICH i didn't. See one

1039
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,480
of the analysts compared him To Brandon, hagel AND i was,

1040
00:50:33,519 --> 00:50:37,599
like that's high, praise, obviously AND i don't know that

1041
00:50:37,639 --> 00:50:39,159
he gets all the way, there BUT i think he's

1042
00:50:39,199 --> 00:50:41,880
that type of player that will just will himself to

1043
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,960
be the best thing he can. BE i don't know

1044
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,800
that he gets all the way to Where hagel is

1045
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:49,199
because that's, impressive BUT i think he's in that mold

1046
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,119
Of i'm just going to do whatever it takes to

1047
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,000
be on this team to be. SUCCESSFUL i like that

1048
00:50:54,119 --> 00:50:56,199
from a young, player AND so was really impressed with.

1049
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,760
That and in terms of, bash he is Like hagel

1050
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,239
in that, way like he gets tons of block shots and.

1051
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,599
Hits it's a big thing for. Him And SO i

1052
00:51:03,679 --> 00:51:05,800
like those types of players because they have a high peripheral.

1053
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,920
Floor so even if they don't come in scoring right,

1054
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,480
away you and bangers, leagues you have a little bit

1055
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,800
of something to rely on until they fully get. Going

1056
00:51:13,159 --> 00:51:14,519
and the other thing you have to like is That

1057
00:51:14,599 --> 00:51:17,519
boston's prospect, pool although it's gotten a little bit better

1058
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:19,280
of the last couple of. Years it's still not, great

1059
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:22,719
and so he, is he's definitely rising in that what's

1060
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:27,960
basically The James hagan's prospect, pool and so that's that's

1061
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,679
nice to see as. Well so, YEAH i Think zeller's

1062
00:51:29,679 --> 00:51:33,320
went from like someone you're probably not interested into someone

1063
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,599
you might be interested. In but also in the same

1064
00:51:35,679 --> 00:51:38,239
vein and what we said, before if someone wants to offer,

1065
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,159
you like a seventy point player for Will, zeller's then take,

1066
00:51:41,239 --> 00:51:43,960
it probably because you know the chances of him hitting

1067
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:45,320
that are not super.

1068
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:51,559
Speaker 3: High all, right let's talk about another of the big.

1069
00:51:51,639 --> 00:51:55,320
Name Zane. Perrek was there thirteen points in seven, games

1070
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:59,480
twenty four shots on. GOAL i saw that there was

1071
00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,039
a little. Fuffle did you hear this after the tournament.

1072
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,880
Victory he was excited that he was at the tournament

1073
00:52:05,039 --> 00:52:07,840
because when he's In, calgary they tell him not to

1074
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,679
say anything to the, media and he felt like he

1075
00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:11,320
had to say whatever he wanted when he was at

1076
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,599
The World junior so he said. That so in other,

1077
00:52:13,639 --> 00:52:17,400
words he said something interesting about not being able to

1078
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,320
say anything. Interesting but he had to apologize for it

1079
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:26,199
because when he went back To, calgary. Apologize i'm, like oh,

1080
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,880
man what a twisted web we. Lead but, Anyway perek

1081
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:33,000
has had that just slow start in THE nhl this.

1082
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,719
Year but a lot of points of this. Tournament what

1083
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,440
do you, Think jordan of his performance and maybe he

1084
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,719
can parley this into taking that leap in THE nhl right?

1085
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:43,960
Now what do you think of All Zaye?

1086
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,119
Speaker 4: Perek, yeah so this tournament was just so on brand

1087
00:52:49,199 --> 00:52:53,280
For Zayn, PreK like everything that you love about Zaym,

1088
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:57,360
PreK he showed everything you don't like About Zayn. PreK

1089
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:01,480
he showed he is such an easy, shooter and like

1090
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,559
you often hear like the term easy with skaters Like Jack,

1091
00:53:04,679 --> 00:53:07,400
hughes looks like he's not even trying and he's just

1092
00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:10,920
like flying up the ice and weaving his way through and,

1093
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,719
everything and it looks so easy for. Him was the

1094
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,119
impress an easy, Shooter and when he has the puck

1095
00:53:17,159 --> 00:53:20,760
on his, stick he'll just casually skate to one side

1096
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,119
and then all of a, sudden like before the puck's

1097
00:53:23,199 --> 00:53:25,760
office stick and it's gone just under the bar like

1098
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,800
it's and it's not even like it's a heavy. Shot

1099
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:32,760
it's HE'S i don't, know it's he can just score

1100
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:36,760
with so much, ease and you saw, that like every

1101
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,119
single one of his goals was just was like. That

1102
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,440
and he starts out on the blue line and he

1103
00:53:41,519 --> 00:53:43,519
walks line for a bit and he finds a lane

1104
00:53:43,519 --> 00:53:46,199
and he steps in and he just might avoid one

1105
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:50,679
opposing player and all of a, sudden the puck's office

1106
00:53:50,679 --> 00:53:54,760
stick and it's top. Corner, LOOK i don't think any

1107
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:58,320
different Of Zaane PreK after this. Tournament you see why

1108
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,119
he is so highly. Touted you see why there's so

1109
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:07,280
much potential to be a high END pp one. Defenseman

1110
00:54:08,159 --> 00:54:10,639
but you also see why it's been a bit of

1111
00:54:10,679 --> 00:54:14,039
a slow start In calgary when he's by the end

1112
00:54:14,039 --> 00:54:16,079
of the, tournament he was on both power plays For

1113
00:54:16,159 --> 00:54:18,760
Team canada because they just didn't have anyone else who

1114
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:20,800
was anywhere close to. Him and he just moves it

1115
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,440
so well with his deception and his. Vision LIKE i

1116
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,000
mentioned the, shooting but he's also been an unbelievable. Passer

1117
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,119
but then other, times look and it's it's a, turnover

1118
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,280
or it's a shot when he really shouldn't have and

1119
00:54:33,639 --> 00:54:36,480
it gets, blocked and then it's a kind of it

1120
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:39,039
doesn't really hurry back too much or too quickly to

1121
00:54:39,039 --> 00:54:41,960
get back into play and then it's a goal against

1122
00:54:42,119 --> 00:54:45,000
and you saw those. Moments, yeah, this LIKE i mentioned

1123
00:54:45,039 --> 00:54:46,960
to start, off like this was so on brand Fra

1124
00:54:47,039 --> 00:54:50,480
Zane perek all the good and all the, bad and

1125
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,719
LIKE i mentioned With gavin, McKenna With, perek you're going

1126
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,840
to have some give and take in his. Game but

1127
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,960
you just need to hope that when he is like twenty,

1128
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:03,239
three twenty four to twenty five and he's a finished

1129
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:07,920
product that the moments that you just shake your head

1130
00:55:08,199 --> 00:55:10,840
ARE i don't, know that's it's only ten to fifteen

1131
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:14,039
percent of his game versus twenty five thirty percent of his,

1132
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:16,719
game and then the rest of it is great because

1133
00:55:17,039 --> 00:55:19,440
if he can really iron that out and really limit

1134
00:55:19,519 --> 00:55:22,320
the amount of the boneheaded plays or just the moments

1135
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,840
where you're, thinking oh my, gosh where is he and

1136
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,719
there's two guys out in front of his own, net

1137
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,679
if he can limit those and the rest of the game,

1138
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,039
translates then like you're looking at a guy who could

1139
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,440
really be like a seventy eighty point, Player like this

1140
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,159
isn't a guy who this isn't a guy who's got

1141
00:55:36,159 --> 00:55:38,920
forty fifty point. Upside this guy has twenty five goal,

1142
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,000
Upsides so, YEAH i. DON'T i didn't really change my

1143
00:55:42,039 --> 00:55:43,840
opinion of him after this, tournament.

1144
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,800
Speaker 1: How about, You? Victor, YEAH i, mean this isn't an

1145
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,559
A jordan, Thing and LIKE i totally agree and yet

1146
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,800
also slightly, disagree just in the sense THAT i wanted

1147
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:59,599
to see From perek WHAT i saw From. Check we

1148
00:55:59,679 --> 00:56:02,320
had Year check do a lot of THE i Think

1149
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:04,440
praak is in a different league, offensively but we had

1150
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,599
seen Year check do some of that offensive. Stuff but

1151
00:56:06,639 --> 00:56:09,880
what we saw from him was limit those. MISTAKES i

1152
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:13,119
don't THINK i saw, many if any mistakes from Your.

1153
00:56:13,199 --> 00:56:15,880
Check no glaring ones, Anyways, Right like maybe he lost

1154
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:18,440
some competitive battles here and, there but he didn't blow some.

1155
00:56:18,519 --> 00:56:21,199
Coverage like he was hard on, pucks he was blocking,

1156
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,599
shots he was doing everything that you want a top

1157
00:56:23,679 --> 00:56:26,519
defenseman to. Do and that's What canada really Needed Zame

1158
00:56:26,559 --> 00:56:28,519
PreK to. Do we knew he could provide the, offense

1159
00:56:28,559 --> 00:56:31,760
which he, did but, man there were times, where like you,

1160
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,440
said someone out in front of the net and Where's.

1161
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:35,559
PreK he's not in, position or he was in the

1162
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:38,119
penalty box for at least a goal or two and

1163
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,519
made some really dumb penalties and blown coverages and just

1164
00:56:42,239 --> 00:56:45,480
lots of bad defensive. Mistakes And i've defended him defensively

1165
00:56:45,519 --> 00:56:47,920
before BECAUSE i think that some of them are. Overblown

1166
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,119
it's Like Evan. BOUCHARD i think some of the mistakes

1167
00:56:50,159 --> 00:56:52,519
Of bouchard makes a little bit, overblown but they're just so,

1168
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:56,679
obvious like bonehead, plays like usually he's, fine but then

1169
00:56:56,679 --> 00:56:59,239
sometimes he makes some really bad, mistakes AND i Think

1170
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,559
PreK is like. That they just they stick out like

1171
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:04,480
a sore. Thumb and that's what we. Needed that's What

1172
00:57:04,559 --> 00:57:06,679
canada needed him not to do in this. Tournament they

1173
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:11,039
needed him to just be fine to average, defensively AND

1174
00:57:11,079 --> 00:57:13,519
i think that they would have. Won but he made

1175
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,719
some really bad mistakes at a really bad time and

1176
00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,800
it costs the. Team AND i think the projecting. Forward

1177
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,440
we've seen this now for years AND i was hoping

1178
00:57:22,519 --> 00:57:25,920
to say it's getting, better And i'm not sure that it.

1179
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,639
Is and that's, Concerning like you, Said, jordan can he do?

1180
00:57:28,679 --> 00:57:30,639
That can he limit? THOSE i don't. Know it's becoming

1181
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,719
harder and harder to say that he can because it

1182
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,800
keeps becoming a problem and in coaches are not going

1183
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,400
to have. That if you're making them lose, games you're

1184
00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:39,559
not going to get out. There you're not going to

1185
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:42,000
get that, opportunity and that's that's going to limit. It

1186
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,079
BECAUSE i, agree like he's got point per game upside

1187
00:57:44,119 --> 00:57:46,519
if he gets the opportunity and if he's good enough,

1188
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:50,320
Defensively but can he be that's the biggest, question AND

1189
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,320
i think it becomes it becomes a bigger and bigger

1190
00:57:52,360 --> 00:57:54,280
question the longer it goes. Along AND i think the

1191
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,559
fact that we're still talking about this is Haven't it's

1192
00:57:57,599 --> 00:57:59,760
making me shift my opinion a bit negatively towards, him

1193
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,840
which is why WHEN i wrote the stock watch For

1194
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,599
dabber for The, JOURNEY i put him at, neutral which

1195
00:58:04,599 --> 00:58:06,960
probably surprised some people because he provided a ton of.

1196
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,159
Offense BUT i think he gave back almost as much

1197
00:58:09,159 --> 00:58:12,199
as he, gave so again we see. THAT i think

1198
00:58:12,239 --> 00:58:15,440
If Zane perrek got the ultimate sort of shut down

1199
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,679
partner and it was just a perfect, marriage LIKE i

1200
00:58:17,719 --> 00:58:19,880
think that would be the best case. Scenario AND i

1201
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,920
hope that his team does that BECAUSE i think if

1202
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:27,119
he has, that that would just be best case. Scenario

1203
00:58:27,119 --> 00:58:28,920
AND i think back TO i think it Was Paul

1204
00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:31,760
martin who paired With Brent burns and it was just like,

1205
00:58:32,639 --> 00:58:36,239
amazing like perfect shutdown guy and he didn't have to

1206
00:58:36,239 --> 00:58:38,519
worry about it And burns could go be his wild

1207
00:58:38,519 --> 00:58:41,320
self and it was. Incredible AND i Think PreK needs

1208
00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:43,519
someone like. That you need that steadying force on the other.

1209
00:58:43,559 --> 00:58:46,199
Side Whether calgary can provide that for, HIM i don't,

1210
00:58:46,239 --> 00:58:48,840
know BUT i think if he has, that he will be. Fine,

1211
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,679
OTHERWISE i think if they really want him to develop

1212
00:58:51,719 --> 00:58:55,280
that defensive, Side i'm not sure that he's fully gonna get.

1213
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,760
There and that's going to be that's going to be.

1214
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 4: Concerning, yeah in, victory IF i could add one two

1215
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,119
quick things onto, that because you raised such great points

1216
00:59:03,159 --> 00:59:06,119
there Is, yeah you need that Eck holme to play With,

1217
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:08,800
bouchard you need what WAS i live In ottawa and

1218
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:11,800
Like Mark mathott played With Eric carlson early on and,

1219
00:59:11,840 --> 00:59:15,760
everything And canada didn't have. That they they had A Chase,

1220
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:18,400
reid pardon, me Cam, reid The. Canadian they had him

1221
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,320
playing With perek AND i don't think Cam reid is

1222
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:24,199
that shutdown. Guy he's a good two, way more more offensively.

1223
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:27,159
Tilted and then the other thing was about on the

1224
00:59:27,239 --> 00:59:30,760
yurcheck comment was we obviously so much goal of us

1225
00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,920
was The dynamo, offensively but your check with the number ONE.

1226
00:59:34,039 --> 00:59:38,719
D i think That Dale hunter really anticipated that The

1227
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,000
brunniki Or brunick pairing was going to be the shutdown

1228
00:59:42,039 --> 00:59:45,679
pairing For, canada and when he, struggled and that pair

1229
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,280
struggled quite a, bit then it was, Like, okay now

1230
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,239
everything's On PreK and he didn't show out. There so,

1231
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,239
YEAH i just didn't want to add those two points

1232
00:59:54,239 --> 00:59:55,719
because you really teed me up for. Those.

1233
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,679
Speaker 3: Yeah, well the last guy we want to cover today

1234
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,199
Is Oliver, suban which that name doesn't sound finish to.

1235
01:00:03,239 --> 01:00:05,719
Me it is in fact finish or he is at

1236
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,920
least A. Finn he is tracking on some of the

1237
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,760
draft boards as maybe something like a mid first rounder

1238
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,639
and next year's. Draft he had two points in seven

1239
01:00:14,679 --> 01:00:18,199
games this year at The World, juniors and he just

1240
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,639
turned seventeen In, september played something like thirteen minutes a

1241
01:00:22,639 --> 01:00:24,679
game at The World junior so he wasn't exactly in

1242
01:00:24,719 --> 01:00:27,760
a featured role for the semi finalist. Fins what do you,

1243
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:33,000
Think jordan Of Oliver suvanto's performance at The World juniors

1244
01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:34,599
and what are you expecting going?

1245
01:00:34,679 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 4: Forward, yeah So i'm sure some of your viewers are

1246
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,880
probably going to, wonder, like why the heck AM i

1247
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,280
talking about a guy who played like thirteen minutes a.

1248
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:46,559
Night he's not drafted, yet two goals or whatever it.

1249
01:00:46,639 --> 01:00:49,559
Was BUT i did want to highlight that we're going

1250
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:51,519
to see this guy the next Two World juniors first,

1251
01:00:51,519 --> 01:00:55,199
off and even for a draft eligible he. Is he's

1252
01:00:55,280 --> 01:00:57,400
what like a week or two weeks away from being

1253
01:00:57,400 --> 01:01:00,960
eligible for the twenty twenty seven. Draft just a little

1254
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:04,159
bit of a backstory on this guy is that he

1255
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:08,400
basically skipped THEIR u twenty junior league In finland completely

1256
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,679
last year as a sixteen year. Old he played in

1257
01:01:10,719 --> 01:01:14,119
THE u eighteen league and lit it, up and then

1258
01:01:14,159 --> 01:01:18,400
he comes in he's playing In. Liga so you don't

1259
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:21,039
see that very, often AND i just wanted to get

1260
01:01:21,039 --> 01:01:24,559
that on. Record that is very a noteworthy. THERE i

1261
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,719
think right, now since he's come back from the, tournament

1262
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,280
he might be playing SOME u twenty games or. Whatever but,

1263
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,840
yeah we're talking about a really young prospect who's six foot.

1264
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,320
Three he does a lot of, things really a lot of.

1265
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,719
Things don't think he does anything, exceptionally but he does

1266
01:01:37,719 --> 01:01:41,039
a lot of things. Well he's got really good details

1267
01:01:41,199 --> 01:01:43,840
to his. Game at the start of the, Tournament Julius

1268
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:48,639
myetn and The Everett, center he was banged up and

1269
01:01:49,199 --> 01:01:53,119
they Had suvanto play top first ligned. Center obviously it's

1270
01:01:53,159 --> 01:01:56,760
not like he wasn't the next best center, option but

1271
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,039
they clearly didn't want to enter or disrupt the other.

1272
01:01:59,119 --> 01:02:02,360
Lines but at the same, time they also felt comfortable

1273
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,639
putting him there and not and they didn't think that

1274
01:02:04,679 --> 01:02:06,599
he was going to be a. DRAG i think that

1275
01:02:06,639 --> 01:02:11,760
says a lot about. HIM i look at past there's

1276
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,480
been some good finished, centers like Obviously Sebastiana ho is

1277
01:02:15,519 --> 01:02:17,840
a way different, players a small, player super, smart super.

1278
01:02:17,880 --> 01:02:21,559
Skilled but there's been a lot of really SOLID nhl

1279
01:02:21,639 --> 01:02:24,119
ers in GOOD nhl as actually who have been in

1280
01:02:24,159 --> 01:02:27,840
a similar mold To, savanto who are north of six

1281
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,440
two six three or, so north of two hundred, pounds

1282
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,440
who play really complete, games are, physical are. Strong you

1283
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,039
look At florida last year when they Had lundell and

1284
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,679
Luster rainin on the same, Line, Like suvanto is the

1285
01:02:42,719 --> 01:02:45,639
same size as those guys pretty, much and he he

1286
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:49,159
plays a little bit like. Both i'd, SAY i think

1287
01:02:49,199 --> 01:02:50,800
this guy's going to go earlier in the, draft and

1288
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,920
people think just because there aren't a ton of centers

1289
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,639
this year and he's big and he doesn't really have many.

1290
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,480
Weaknesses AND i just wanted to call him out for

1291
01:02:59,519 --> 01:03:02,960
having a juniors where people probably didn't expect much from,

1292
01:03:03,039 --> 01:03:04,800
him but he still played pretty well and he earned

1293
01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:06,800
the coaches, Trust so that was really.

1294
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 3: It how about, You Victor Oliver suvanto.

1295
01:03:11,559 --> 01:03:14,599
Speaker 1: TAKES i Think jordan said it really. WELL i think

1296
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:17,119
you could everything you said About suvanto in general in

1297
01:03:17,199 --> 01:03:21,159
terms of not exceptional anyone, thing but playing really really

1298
01:03:21,159 --> 01:03:24,039
good at everything is the motto of the finished, team,

1299
01:03:24,119 --> 01:03:26,360
Right it's like the sum is greater than the. Parts

1300
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,639
AND i was watching that team so closely trying to

1301
01:03:29,679 --> 01:03:33,119
pick out one couple guys who really stood, ahead shoulders

1302
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,039
above the, rest and it was hard because they just

1303
01:03:35,079 --> 01:03:37,239
play so well, together. Right And vietnam AND i think

1304
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:41,079
And himming with the shot, clearly and Kivy HAR i

1305
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:44,199
think had a good redemption tour in terms of what he,

1306
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:47,119
Produced but in, GENERAL i think it's what you expect From,

1307
01:03:47,119 --> 01:03:49,639
finland like they are just their small nation that are

1308
01:03:49,679 --> 01:03:52,719
proud and really good as a, team and that was

1309
01:03:52,719 --> 01:03:55,719
really good to. See he's one of these guys WHO

1310
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,920
i think is gonna just be as STRONGER nhl or

1311
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,920
than maybe we can give him credit for right, now

1312
01:04:01,960 --> 01:04:04,039
and he seems to be pushing up and he's so. Young,

1313
01:04:04,159 --> 01:04:06,360
yeah two weeks of being from eligible for the following

1314
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,440
draft is it's always really impressive when these young guys

1315
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,239
do that to me, too and playing in the lega so.

1316
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:13,400
EARLY i think he's someone who could open eyes as

1317
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,199
he develops more and, more and you're gonna have to

1318
01:04:15,199 --> 01:04:17,320
give him more time because he is so. Young so,

1319
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,199
YEAH i really like you bringing him, up but, yeah

1320
01:04:20,199 --> 01:04:22,159
a little early for me to say more than that on.

1321
01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:29,480
Speaker 3: Him all, right that's our tour through some of your, Guys,

1322
01:04:29,599 --> 01:04:31,719
jordan or guys that you wanted to comment on or

1323
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:35,880
we wanted to discuss with you from this Recent World.

1324
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,239
Juniors so why don't you tell, us sir where we

1325
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:41,239
can find all the work that you do out there

1326
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:45,719
and people can read more about your prospect. Coverage, YEAH

1327
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:45,920
i know.

1328
01:04:46,039 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 4: For, Sure SO i Got i'm On twitter OR. X

1329
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:54,280
i guess At jordan UNDERSCORE Nhl. Draft pretty simple, THERE

1330
01:04:54,840 --> 01:04:57,960
i write For Dabber. Prospects i'm one of the co

1331
01:04:58,079 --> 01:05:01,800
director of scouting, there bitten with the. Team now this

1332
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,599
will be my this is actually my fourth. Year, YEAH

1333
01:05:04,599 --> 01:05:07,039
i started in The bidard draft and talk about setting

1334
01:05:07,039 --> 01:05:10,360
your sites high. There it's going From badard celebrating in

1335
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,079
my first two years to all of a sudden last

1336
01:05:12,159 --> 01:05:14,320
year is kind of a week draft and this year

1337
01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:18,199
is maybe you, know not quite super strong. Either but,

1338
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:19,920
YEAH i Know i've been doing this for scouting for

1339
01:05:20,000 --> 01:05:23,559
four years With dauber And i'm not super active On.

1340
01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:26,000
TWITTER i picked my spots and WHEN i want to

1341
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,599
pipe in on. Things but, yeah, no that's really. It

1342
01:05:29,679 --> 01:05:33,280
in terms Of Dauber. Prospects we just released our rankings

1343
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,800
just before the. TOURNAMENT i think it Was december. Eighteenth

1344
01:05:36,119 --> 01:05:39,239
we'll do another, one probably closer to closer to the

1345
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:42,239
end Of february Early, march once the club seasons start

1346
01:05:42,280 --> 01:05:44,079
to finish, up especially In, europe and then we'll do

1347
01:05:44,159 --> 01:05:46,719
one final one In june once we the eighteens have

1348
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:49,559
come and, gone The Memorial cup's, done and we usually

1349
01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:52,360
always like to get that one. Finished we usually hold

1350
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,599
off until after the scouting combine because that's when you

1351
01:05:55,679 --> 01:05:58,960
get clarity on measures and, measurables whether it be they're

1352
01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:03,320
athletic testing or their heights and. Weights sometimes there's always

1353
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:05,159
that guy who is listed at six foot two and

1354
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,800
he measures in at five eleven and three quarters and

1355
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,320
then THE nh in THE nfl scouting combine for, sure

1356
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:11,880
but you also see in THE, nhl so we like

1357
01:06:11,960 --> 01:06:13,880
to wait for. That, yeah so that's really where you

1358
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:14,400
can find me.

1359
01:06:16,119 --> 01:06:19,159
Speaker 3: Outstanding thanks so much for coming On jordan and talking

1360
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:33,239
prospects with. Us, hey our show's brought you by dantracks dot.

1361
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:36,079
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1366
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:52,599
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1367
01:06:52,639 --> 01:06:55,920
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1368
01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:59,679
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1369
01:06:59,719 --> 01:07:02,920
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01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,840
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