1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:25,359 Speaker 1: You were listening to Petlifradio dot com. 2 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,239 Speaker 2: Well, good morning, good morning, or good afternoon, depending on 3 00:00:28,239 --> 00:00:30,920 what part of the country you are joining us here today. 4 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,079 I am doctor Jeff Werber, your host for the next 5 00:00:34,079 --> 00:00:36,320 half hour here on pet Life Radio and ask the 6 00:00:36,399 --> 00:00:40,200 bets with doctor Jeff. And hopefully you're all so far 7 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,679 enjoying this magnificence Sunday, at least magnificent here in la 8 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:45,320 I don't want to make the rest of you jealous, 9 00:00:45,359 --> 00:00:48,359 so I did just talk to somebody in Charleston, South Carolina, 10 00:00:48,719 --> 00:00:51,960 and I understand it's very hot but muggy there. You see, 11 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:54,200 we're lucky out here in la is We get the heat, 12 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,880 but we don't get the muggy, so it's much more comfortable. 13 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:58,960 And yeah, it's not a cloud in the sky. It's 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,119 a gorgeous day. I hope you're do alling okay on 15 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,960 this Sunday. Hope your pets are doing okay. We talked 16 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,560 last week. I was mentioning about this really cool event 17 00:01:06,879 --> 00:01:10,159 and it happened last night. It was sponsored by the 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,359 Kong veter Night Products, the Division of Kong, and I'm 19 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:15,439 sure you're all familiar with Kong. In fact, my good 20 00:01:15,439 --> 00:01:18,519 friend Joe Markham, who is the CEO of Kong, was 21 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,120 there and also benefiting Best Friends Animal Society, which is 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,599 amazing and they have a tremendous presence in many cities 23 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:31,079 and they sponsor a very very large group of animal shelters. 24 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,879 They call it NKLA No Kill La, trying to slowly 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,640 get all animal shelters and rescues. Well, of course the 26 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:40,719 rescuers are no kill, but to get the animal shelters 27 00:01:40,719 --> 00:01:43,040 to be no killed. So this was a really cool 28 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,879 It was an art auction, but it wasn't just any art. 29 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,120 They did have some graffiti art that's some really cool stuff. 30 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:50,879 But the event was called more than a Cone because 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,519 what they did. They took those Elizabethan collars, you know, 32 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:56,159 the cones, the Cones of Shame if you will, and 33 00:01:56,319 --> 00:01:59,799 Kong veter Night Products does manufacture and make some fantastic 34 00:01:59,799 --> 00:02:04,280 home So instead of just having this bland, plastic whatever cone, 35 00:02:04,599 --> 00:02:09,599 they commissioned some world famous artists and to sort of 36 00:02:09,719 --> 00:02:13,120 reimagine the Cone of Shame and they actually painted with 37 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:17,039 amazing In other words, the cone became their canvas and 38 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,240 these tremendous very very hopefully someday because I did buy 39 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,120 one works of art will be worth something, but I 40 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,520 think it's really cool, so I wanted to. It was 41 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,080 a great event, you know. It was one of those 42 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,599 events they didn't really have an RSVP, if you will. 43 00:02:31,879 --> 00:02:34,240 It went out there. They had great marketing, great media 44 00:02:34,719 --> 00:02:38,360 marketing online and so the social networking was great. They 45 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,719 were expecting maybe maybe four hundred, five hundred people. They 46 00:02:42,719 --> 00:02:45,919 had well over one thousand people. It was just amazing, 47 00:02:46,159 --> 00:02:49,080 high energy people dressed up nicely on a Saturday night 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:51,879 here in Los Angeles. Was really really a fun evant. 49 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:53,840 I have no idea how much they they raised, but 50 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,599 I know that the folks over at best Friends were very, 51 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,800 very happy, and I know it's interesting to watch that organization. 52 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,080 I started working with best Friends, oh my god, twenty 53 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:05,919 years ago. In fact, I had the pleasure of ms 54 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:10,240 seeing their first few events that were here in Malibu, California, 55 00:03:10,319 --> 00:03:13,159 and it was just a small organization at the time, 56 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,080 and now I've just watched them grow. They have a 57 00:03:16,159 --> 00:03:20,080 humongous facility in Canab, Utah. They have local shelters all 58 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,719 over the country. So anyway, it was really just a 59 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:27,000 nice event. And wherever cities you are, keep your eyes 60 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,759 out because this was the test. They want to see 61 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:32,439 if this could fly, if the concept would fly, They 62 00:03:32,439 --> 00:03:36,080 are going to start taking some of the designs and 63 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:41,280 incorporating them into the manufacturing of cones. So therefore no 64 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:45,319 longer will be that drab, plastic, sort of opekish cone. 65 00:03:45,439 --> 00:03:47,960 It is going to be a work of art. So 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,400 your dog no longer needs to feel shameful when wearing 67 00:03:51,599 --> 00:03:53,919 one such cone. Case they'll be walking around with just 68 00:03:53,919 --> 00:03:57,319 them a masterpiece, which is really cool. So before we 69 00:03:57,319 --> 00:03:59,719 get to one of the topics I wanted to introduce, 70 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,439 I didn't want to reiterate and again discus with the 71 00:04:02,479 --> 00:04:05,280 heat and I'm getting I still get questions all the time, 72 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:08,199 and then I drive around town and I see it 73 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,960 just gets me our people driving around a with their pets. Well, 74 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:13,439 first of all, with the head hanging out the window. 75 00:04:13,479 --> 00:04:15,560 We talked about that last week or a few weeks ago. Now, 76 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:16,720 if you're going to take a pet in your car, 77 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,199 that's great. I'm all for it your pet. If you 78 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:20,680 can't take it to work with you, I'd love it. 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,480 But you have to keep your pets safe. They need 80 00:04:23,519 --> 00:04:25,920 to be either in a carrier or they need to 81 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:29,639 be in a harness that will click into a seat belt, 82 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:31,959 So hanging the head out the window, of course, we 83 00:04:32,079 --> 00:04:34,759 run the risk of the what we call exposure carotitis, 84 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:37,319 which is the wind and the dust particles hitting the 85 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:40,360 eyes at you know, a zillion miles an hour will 86 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,480 or can have an effect on the cornea and it 87 00:04:43,519 --> 00:04:46,720 can cause what we call a carotitis or worse yet, 88 00:04:46,879 --> 00:04:50,879 a corneal ulcer or an erosion, and it is very irritating. 89 00:04:50,879 --> 00:04:54,439 And what's interesting about dog's corneas is that when intact, 90 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,839 they don't seem to care so much about something in 91 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:01,759 their eye. When you think about the how we feel 92 00:05:01,759 --> 00:05:04,160 when we get an eyelash in an eye, or that 93 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,279 little dust particle, or if you wear contacts and the 94 00:05:07,319 --> 00:05:10,079 contact slips off and goes either way up or way down, 95 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,279 you know, you feel it, You feel the irritation. Dogs 96 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,319 don't seem to be bothered by that. However, once that superficial, 97 00:05:18,639 --> 00:05:23,399 that outermost layer of cornea becomes compromised, the nerve endings 98 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:28,560 are in those outermost layers and it's very painful. So interestingly, 99 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,759 a superficial corneal ulcer is often more painful than the 100 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:38,000 deep ulcer and of course the deepulture is more serious, 101 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:41,000 and we worry about something called a des meticial when 102 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,680 we get actually a rupture of the cornea and contents 103 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,639 of the anterior chamber start leaking out of the eye, 104 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,759 very dangerous. But they can walk around with the deep 105 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:55,040 ulster and not really be as in much pain as 106 00:05:55,079 --> 00:05:58,560 when they have a very very non serious superficial ulcer. 107 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,439 So it's just kind of good because that usually sort 108 00:06:01,439 --> 00:06:04,720 of helps that owner realize there's an eye problem and 109 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:10,240 brings the pet in before that superficial, non serious also 110 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,759 becomes a more serious one. So if you see your 111 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,800 dog squinting, when does this happen? Well, for certainly driving 112 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:18,959 around with a head out the window. If you have 113 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,680 a as I do. I have many dogs, two of 114 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,759 what which are French bulldogs. French bulldogs are what we 115 00:06:24,879 --> 00:06:29,600 call a breaky cephalic breed. The breakycephalics are the short 116 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:33,279 nose breeds. Your Losses, your Sheets's, your Pugs, your Boston's, 117 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,519 your French Sees, your Peaks, your Griffins, you know, the Brussels, 118 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,480 and these dogs. You know. So much of a dog's 119 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:45,560 sense is tactile. So, for example, if a dog is 120 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,399 going through some thick brush or some bushes their nose, 121 00:06:49,519 --> 00:06:53,680 their face, their longer normal muzzle will give them a clue, 122 00:06:53,759 --> 00:06:57,959 a hint as to what is ahead of them. And 123 00:06:58,040 --> 00:07:01,240 when they know that there might be some danger or 124 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,079 these stick bushes, they have time to react and blink 125 00:07:04,079 --> 00:07:06,560 their eyes. The problem is with a break piece of 126 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:09,959 phalax is that by the time whatever it is that's 127 00:07:09,959 --> 00:07:12,120 going to hit their nose they're snout their face, it's 128 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,720 already hit the eye. So it's very, very common for 129 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,519 these dogs to end up with what we call a 130 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,879 corneal erosion or a corneal ulcer. Additionally, another time that 131 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:24,360 you know, people seem to freak. And it's just so 132 00:07:24,439 --> 00:07:27,199 interesting because there is a little controversy here too. But 133 00:07:27,639 --> 00:07:31,839 when dogs get or cats get bathed, often if the 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,319 eyes aren't rinsed very well, also we can get an ulcer. 135 00:07:36,439 --> 00:07:39,720 Now here's what I find interesting. A little soap in 136 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,160 an eye is not the end of the world as 137 00:07:42,199 --> 00:07:45,000 long as it's rinsed off. If you wait too long 138 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,639 and don't rinse it, it causes irritation. So what does 139 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:50,240 the dog do and the eyes irritated and they're not 140 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,759 wearing a cone of shame. So what happens is they 141 00:07:52,759 --> 00:07:55,360 take their paw and they start rubbing at the eye. 142 00:07:55,600 --> 00:08:00,240 So even though the initial insult wasn't bad enough to 143 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:02,560 cause an ulcer or an erosion, the rubbing of the 144 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,279 eye is plenty to do that, so they start to rub. 145 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,040 So the controversy is, should we, or whether it's a 146 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:11,680 veterinary house or whether it's a groomer, put some eye 147 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,279 lube in the eye. And here's I think it's still 148 00:08:14,279 --> 00:08:17,600 good to protect. It doesn't hurt. However, what happens is 149 00:08:17,759 --> 00:08:20,560 when our eye lube and eye protecting is put in 150 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:23,519 the eye, whoever is doing the bath giving the bath, 151 00:08:24,199 --> 00:08:26,600 knowing they put something in the eye, they don't panic. 152 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,839 They don't worry when that soap hits the eye, so 153 00:08:29,879 --> 00:08:31,519 they don't rinse it off right away. They figured, oh 154 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,200 it's okay because we have the loop. So instead, this soap, 155 00:08:34,279 --> 00:08:37,799 depending on how it interacts with the lube, might actually 156 00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:42,399 stay there. So my recommendation, my caution is that even 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:45,840 though your groomer or you or your veterinarian is gonna 158 00:08:46,159 --> 00:08:48,720 have your dog baite and maybe put some eye protecting in, 159 00:08:48,919 --> 00:08:51,360 you still need to respect the eye. You still need 160 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:54,120 to rinse as soon as you think you got soap 161 00:08:54,159 --> 00:08:56,279 in the eyes, or at the end, rinse the face, 162 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,799 rinse the eyes really well. Anyway, I want to know 163 00:08:58,799 --> 00:09:01,559 what you guys think about this here for you. We're 164 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,399 here every Sunday for those new listeners. We used to 165 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:06,960 be on Thursdays and we move the show to what 166 00:09:07,039 --> 00:09:08,879 we think and hope is a better time slot for 167 00:09:08,919 --> 00:09:11,039 you to get listeners. 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All 268 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:16,200 this on Get Positive Results on pet Life Radio. 269 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 5: Let's talk past, Let's don petcomb at Life Radio, Hetline Radio, 270 00:14:20,879 --> 00:14:23,000 petlifradio dot. 271 00:14:22,759 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 2: Com, and welcome back and thank you for joining us 272 00:14:44,759 --> 00:14:49,120 here on this glorious Sunday morning or early afternoon here 273 00:14:49,159 --> 00:14:51,679 on pet Life Radio. You're with doctor Jeff Werber, the 274 00:14:51,679 --> 00:14:53,679 host of Asked the Best with Doctor Jeff here on 275 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,080 pet Life and we want you to call us in 276 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:58,399 and get your questions answered at eight seven seven three 277 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,000 eight five eight eight eight. If you don't have the 278 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,840 courage to do it today, then next Sunday. 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Of course, any of your questions when 289 00:15:33,879 --> 00:15:36,200 you call in, when you write in, when you email me, 290 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,879 we will send you out a pro sense product and 291 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:43,000 a free contoy just for getting the courage to get 292 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,200 to questions answered. So, you know, one of the things 293 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:48,519 that before we took the break I mentioned and I 294 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,720 am still getting a lot of questions about this, and sadly, 295 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:54,000 I see a lot of dogs. We had a dog 296 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:58,200 coming in on Friday, and this was a little maltise. 297 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,679 Now I have to preface this by saying that it 298 00:16:00,799 --> 00:16:05,840 is extremely common for small breeds to have pretty lousy teeth. 299 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,559 So you know, I get it, I get it. But 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,320 what was more shocking to me is that this client 301 00:16:13,399 --> 00:16:15,679 had been looks at me when I show her how 302 00:16:15,759 --> 00:16:18,840 terrible her dog's teeth were. And actually during the process 303 00:16:18,879 --> 00:16:20,759 what I do now with iPhones, because you know, it's 304 00:16:20,799 --> 00:16:23,360 great to have an Android iPhone, because when I want 305 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,720 to show a client how terrible a teeth is during 306 00:16:26,759 --> 00:16:29,399 the procedure, all I have to do is videotape how 307 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,600 loose the tooth is, and it's I mean, and it's 308 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,480 you know, the expression of pictures worth a thousand words. Well, 309 00:16:34,639 --> 00:16:36,919 oh my god, they see this and they, oh my god, Doc, 310 00:16:37,039 --> 00:16:39,200 thank you so much you had to pull that tooth. 311 00:16:39,399 --> 00:16:42,799 But what was interesting about this poor dog is that 312 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,639 mom had been taking the dog for grooming to have 313 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:51,240 a teeth done on a fairly regular basis. Of course 314 00:16:51,279 --> 00:16:55,039 it's the groomer, so it's non anesthesia. And really the 315 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:59,120 problem becomes, are we doing these dogs a service or not. 316 00:16:59,639 --> 00:17:02,840 So we also have a version at my hospital of 317 00:17:02,879 --> 00:17:06,400 a non anecesi it's not non anthesia, it's not full 318 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:09,880 general anesesia, but it is using an agent that is 319 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:12,559 phenomenal that puts them into sort of a pretty deep 320 00:17:12,599 --> 00:17:15,960 twilight sleep. We add to that a pain medication. Let's 321 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,480 put this way, they are down enough that they could 322 00:17:18,519 --> 00:17:21,279 still be intubated, which, by the way, in certain states 323 00:17:21,319 --> 00:17:25,000 now including California, it's become practice act that any dog 324 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,240 or cat that is having a dentistry or a dental 325 00:17:28,240 --> 00:17:31,680 procedure done needs to be intubated. Now, I think that 326 00:17:31,799 --> 00:17:34,480 this rule has come into effect because they want to 327 00:17:34,519 --> 00:17:36,640 make sure that the rumors are not doing it, and 328 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:38,680 I'll explain why in a minute. And also I think 329 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,920 there's a certain safety feature because when or if you're 330 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:47,000 using certain equipment that for example, an ultrasonic scaler called 331 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,400 the cavatron for example, or the attachment as a cabatron, 332 00:17:50,759 --> 00:17:54,279 the debris in the mouth, the plaque, which is comprised 333 00:17:54,480 --> 00:18:00,000 of minerals. Of course, saliva bacteria starts to become aris 334 00:18:00,759 --> 00:18:07,000 and if there's no protection blocking that aerosolized bacteria from 335 00:18:07,079 --> 00:18:10,000 the throat the trachea as these dogs are breathing, they'll 336 00:18:10,039 --> 00:18:13,319 potentially breathe it right down into their lungs. So I 337 00:18:13,319 --> 00:18:16,400 think there's a really smart safety feature there as well 338 00:18:16,599 --> 00:18:19,960 when it comes to needing to intubate, keep a pet intubated, 339 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,519 but I think it does prevent the true non anesthetic dentistry. 340 00:18:24,759 --> 00:18:29,799 So anyway, this poor dog had horrendous teeth despite the 341 00:18:29,799 --> 00:18:31,920 fact that it had been going fairly regularly. And the 342 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:33,640 owner would say that when she would pick the dog up, 343 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:35,599 oh my god, she goes doc the teeth look great, 344 00:18:35,599 --> 00:18:37,799 they look so well. So anyway, here's a study that 345 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:39,680 I wanted to share with you, and I want you 346 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,680 to think twice next time you're even thinking or considering 347 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:47,519 having anybody but your veterinarian or a veterinary dentist doing 348 00:18:47,799 --> 00:18:51,200 the dental procedures on your pets. So a good friend 349 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,720 of mine, he's a veterinary dentist. He's pretty much based 350 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:55,920 in Colorado, but yeah, he travels. He lectures all over 351 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,559 the world. He did a study. It was a study 352 00:18:58,559 --> 00:19:00,880 that took place. It was they're over three or four 353 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:04,839 years where he identified clients on a regular basis that 354 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,960 would take their pets to a groomer for quote unquote 355 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:11,519 a dental cleaning. He contacted them, told them he was 356 00:19:11,519 --> 00:19:13,759 doing a study. I think he led them to believe 357 00:19:13,799 --> 00:19:15,720 that he wanted to show how well these gloomers are doing, 358 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,960 which was very funny. And he had the clients, on 359 00:19:19,039 --> 00:19:22,759 his dime, for free go to his office for pre 360 00:19:23,319 --> 00:19:27,799 groomer cleaning pictures and they were to come back to 361 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:32,200 him afterwards for post pictures. So what he didn't tell them, 362 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,759 I'm sure they maybe knew as part of the program, 363 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:39,480 but he was also taking post cleaning X rays. Well 364 00:19:39,799 --> 00:19:42,359 after three or four years of following these patients. The 365 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,119 post cleaning pictures in other words, lifting up the gum, 366 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,519 looking at the surface of the tooth. The tooth were 367 00:19:48,599 --> 00:19:51,079 nice and white, they were shiny, they were polished. They 368 00:19:51,079 --> 00:19:54,920 looked pretty darn good. But following these dogs for these 369 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,559 few years on post cleaning X rays, as compared to 370 00:19:59,599 --> 00:20:04,559 a group of dogs that were getting full anesesia dental cleanings, 371 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:10,000 the bone destruction in the group that was not getting 372 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,680 or having full anesesia i e. They were not able. 373 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,279 These groomers, if you will, these dental hygienis, if you will, 374 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,559 were not able without any kind of sedation to really 375 00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:26,160 dig under those gums to clean, to do deep root cleaning, 376 00:20:26,519 --> 00:20:31,720 and the destruction was dramatic. Even anyone who ever thought 377 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,839 for a second that it was okay to do this 378 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,839 without any anesthesia because my dog is the mask and 379 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:42,000 you can sit there. No way, Absolutely not dogs and 380 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,359 cats to do the job that we need to do, 381 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:50,920 need to have some sort of sedation, some relaxation, pain medication, 382 00:20:51,559 --> 00:20:54,799 and in certain states now enough that you can even 383 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,400 intubate the dog, I know. And again this is it 384 00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,960 goes to state by state, but again here in California, 385 00:21:00,279 --> 00:21:04,519 if a non veterinarian cleans the surface of a tooth 386 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,279 with a metallic object like a tartar scraper or a 387 00:21:07,279 --> 00:21:10,920 cavetron right, or the rotor pro, whatever technique you want 388 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,119 to use, and not doing it under the direct supervision 389 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,400 of a veterinarian is considered practicing veterinary medicine without a 390 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:22,599 license and actually can be fined as a misdemeanor. So 391 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,680 that's a huge thing. So I think it's very important 392 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,319 for any of you who have been going to a 393 00:21:27,319 --> 00:21:30,680 groomer if you want to let's say, for example, for example, 394 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:32,920 your dog is an older dog and really needs to 395 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,680 go in twice a year. If you said to me, 396 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:36,839 you know what, once here, I want to come to 397 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,119 my vet and get full cleaning, deep root cleaning, et cetera. 398 00:21:40,559 --> 00:21:42,640 And once here, I want to go to the groom 399 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,599 or just to you know, get the plaque adds it's 400 00:21:44,599 --> 00:21:49,559 accumulating before it has the opportunity to start traveling up 401 00:21:49,599 --> 00:21:52,759 below the gums. All right, I not bad, not a 402 00:21:52,759 --> 00:21:56,319 bad compromise. But I think it's important that when you 403 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,240 have your pets teeth cleaned at least once a year, 404 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,559 they also get dental X rays because there's a lot 405 00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:06,279 that we can't see that's going on under the gums. 406 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,200 Just like you know, we go in for cleaning's routinely, 407 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:10,119 and you know what it's like, at least once here 408 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,240 you're gonna have X rays taken. So I think certainly 409 00:22:13,279 --> 00:22:16,640 after dogs, a middle aged dog or older, they're already sedated, 410 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,920 a dental series should definitely be taken. We use the 411 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,880 same digital equipment that your dentist uses. We can get 412 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,559 the films instantly right on a computer screen and really 413 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:30,039 know the status. I had a case recently where there 414 00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:32,799 was a little bit of a gummer session and it 415 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,920 was one of the molars, and you could see actually 416 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:39,440 premoler and you could see just the little space between 417 00:22:39,519 --> 00:22:42,519 the two roots brewing because of the little gummer session, 418 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,519 and the tooth appeared to be solid as a rock. 419 00:22:45,799 --> 00:22:47,000 So I said to you on you know what, like 420 00:22:47,279 --> 00:22:49,039 I'm not a magician, I can't see. Let me take 421 00:22:49,039 --> 00:22:51,000 an X ray and see what's going on. Certainly took 422 00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:54,839 an X ray that bone was gorgeous. The teeth were 423 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,480 deeply rooted. So we're going to have we did some 424 00:22:57,559 --> 00:22:59,759 work to try. Just like people when you have a 425 00:22:59,759 --> 00:23:03,759 little gingivitis and what we call gingebl or gum recession, 426 00:23:03,799 --> 00:23:07,039 the dentists has you do some exercises with that rubber 427 00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:09,319 tip of a toothbrush or strengthen the gums. Well, we 428 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:11,519 can do the same thing. We can help the process 429 00:23:11,519 --> 00:23:14,319 and see if we can't keep these teeth healthy. Trust me, 430 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,279 veterinarians are not in the business just to pull teeth 431 00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:20,319 for the sake of pulling teeth. If we're gonna pull 432 00:23:20,319 --> 00:23:22,279 a tooth, it's going to be because we need to. 433 00:23:22,599 --> 00:23:25,680 If it's something where there might be a cosmetic issue 434 00:23:25,759 --> 00:23:28,440 and you want to have a root canal done. Of course, 435 00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:31,680 some veterinarians, some private practitioners do it, but now there 436 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,880 are many many cities, all the universities, the vet schools 437 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:41,200 have veterinary dentists that can do the root canals, that 438 00:23:41,279 --> 00:23:45,279 can do orthodontria if needed, that can cut teeth down 439 00:23:45,279 --> 00:23:47,799 if have to. They can do what's called polpotomies. All 440 00:23:47,839 --> 00:23:52,720 these advanced procedures, gingeble, gum flaps, whatever it takes to 441 00:23:52,839 --> 00:23:56,759 keep your pets teeth and gums healthy can be done. 442 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,720 So don't think that the answer to everything now is 443 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,119 teeth either, because it's not so anyway, One last thing 444 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,160 before we go, I want you to be all very careful. 445 00:24:06,279 --> 00:24:10,720 It is summer, it's here officially, and we do not 446 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,880 want dogs or cats being left in cars, even in 447 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,799 the shade at all, even with the windows cracked. There 448 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,599 is never a good time that car is like a sweatbox. 449 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:26,319 And when these dogs are in there panting, nervous, even 450 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,640 if it's in the shade, the temperatures in a car 451 00:24:28,759 --> 00:24:31,599 during the summer can reach well over one hundred degrees 452 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,279 in no time, so it is never okay, so keep 453 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:37,240 that in mind. I hate to see that. I've been 454 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,319 in parking structures inside and I see the window cracking. 455 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:41,920 His dogs in the back seat during the middle of 456 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,599 the day. Not a good idea. So don't be silly, 457 00:24:45,599 --> 00:24:47,559 don't be careless. You know, you say it was only 458 00:24:47,559 --> 00:24:49,359 for five minutes, and then you'll bump into somebody if 459 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,240 something happens in the store, and five minutes becomes fifteen minutes, 460 00:24:52,279 --> 00:24:54,599 becomes twenty minutes, and you come back to either a 461 00:24:54,599 --> 00:24:56,720 dog who's in the midst of a major heat stroke 462 00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,759 or a dead dog. Nobody wants to see that, So anyway, 463 00:25:00,759 --> 00:25:03,160 thanks for being here on Let's Talk Pets pet Life 464 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,160 Radio Asterbats with Doctor Jeff. We will be here next Sunday, 465 00:25:07,319 --> 00:25:13,519 nine am in the West and twelve noon. He's still 466 00:25:13,519 --> 00:25:14,279 looking forward to it. 467 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 1: Let's Talk Pets every week on demand only on Petlifradio 468 00:25:20,279 --> 00:25:29,839 dot com.