WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog. 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:07.320 My dog. 4 00:00:07.360 --> 00:00:08.960 We're flying through the air over the tree. 5 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 6 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 7 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 8 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 9 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.320 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Sat, what 10 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 11 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 12 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 13 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 14 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:58.960 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside, Jesus. 15 00:00:58.719 --> 00:00:59.560 Quice, you better. 16 00:01:01.840 --> 00:01:04.799 Hello, hit thebody out here? 17 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:05.480 What quin? 18 00:01:05.560 --> 00:01:06.079 I'm out there? 19 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:06.640 I thought of a. 20 00:01:06.680 --> 00:01:08.480 Bench about tick forty nine. 21 00:01:08.560 --> 00:01:08.959 I don't know. 22 00:01:09.200 --> 00:01:10.159 Easy an out there? 23 00:01:10.319 --> 00:01:11.239 Yeah, I'm walking right. 24 00:01:11.319 --> 00:01:11.560 Hey. 25 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:14.560 If you caught my recent interview with Jerry on the 26 00:01:14.599 --> 00:01:18.280 episode titled The Booger's on South Mountain, you already know 27 00:01:18.359 --> 00:01:21.159 this man has been collecting encounter stories from that area 28 00:01:21.239 --> 00:01:24.239 for years, and let me tell you, we barely scratch 29 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:28.120 the surface during that conversation. Jerry's got more stories than 30 00:01:28.120 --> 00:01:31.120 we could possibly cover in a single sit down, and 31 00:01:31.159 --> 00:01:33.439 every one of them comes straight from folks who've lived 32 00:01:33.480 --> 00:01:36.439 and hunted and wandered through those mountains their whole lives. 33 00:01:37.079 --> 00:01:40.120 So here's what's happening. Jerry was kind enough to give 34 00:01:40.159 --> 00:01:44.239 me permission to share stories from his TikTok channel JR. Millwood, 35 00:01:44.480 --> 00:01:46.439 which I'll link for you down in the show notes. 36 00:01:47.159 --> 00:01:47.959 Every Wednesday. 37 00:01:47.959 --> 00:01:50.439 For the next several weeks, I'll be bringing you in 38 00:01:50.519 --> 00:01:53.280 counter accounts from in and around the South Mountain area 39 00:01:53.359 --> 00:01:56.760 of North Carolina. These are the stories the locals tell, 40 00:01:57.439 --> 00:02:00.680 the ones passed down through families, the kind of accounts 41 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.280 that make you think twice before heading into those woods 42 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:06.640 after dark. And here's the part I'm really excited about. 43 00:02:07.439 --> 00:02:10.639 Jerry's invited me out to his research area in early December, 44 00:02:11.159 --> 00:02:13.479 So with any luck, I'll be boots on the ground 45 00:02:13.520 --> 00:02:17.319 out there soon and maybe, just maybe I'll get to 46 00:02:17.360 --> 00:02:22.000 experience these boogers for myself. We'll see what happens. All right, 47 00:02:22.680 --> 00:02:25.759 let's get into it. Here's the first installment of Encounter 48 00:02:25.840 --> 00:02:27.280 Stories from the South Mountains. 49 00:02:28.199 --> 00:02:31.039 All A, welcome everybody to the first episode of my 50 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:35.919 series The Strange and Unexplained Phenomena of the South Mountains, 51 00:02:36.000 --> 00:02:40.039 North Carolina. I'm your host, researcher, and investigator and content creator. 52 00:02:40.159 --> 00:02:42.360 I appreciate all of you for joining us. Let's jump 53 00:02:42.400 --> 00:02:45.000 right into this episode that I have titled A Family's 54 00:02:45.080 --> 00:02:48.199 Night of Terror. Quick word about the South Mountains. The 55 00:02:48.240 --> 00:02:52.159 South Mountains is a mountain range and it covers roughly 56 00:02:52.280 --> 00:02:56.560 one hundred thousand acres. It is in the counties of 57 00:02:56.639 --> 00:03:01.159 North Carolina Cleveland County, Burke County, Rutherford County, and McDowell County. 58 00:03:02.039 --> 00:03:05.639 The surrounding areas of wilderness around the South Mountains in 59 00:03:05.680 --> 00:03:08.520 the periphery of the South Mountains easily encompasses another one 60 00:03:08.560 --> 00:03:13.919 hundred thousand acres of wilderness and rural farmland, creek bottoms, 61 00:03:13.960 --> 00:03:17.240 deep river bottoms. The terrain is beautiful, but in places 62 00:03:17.280 --> 00:03:21.840 it's unforgiving and very steep. It's Appalachian forest, and we 63 00:03:21.919 --> 00:03:24.560 are the first step to the Smoky Mountains. It's a 64 00:03:24.599 --> 00:03:30.879 paradise for a wilderness lovers, hikers, campers, hunters. The account 65 00:03:30.960 --> 00:03:33.840 shared to me by this family that I'm about to 66 00:03:33.879 --> 00:03:38.479 describe proofs that around here the paradise can be turned 67 00:03:38.520 --> 00:03:41.520 into a nightmare after the sun goes down. The story 68 00:03:41.599 --> 00:03:44.919 begins on the afternoon of July the twenty sixth of 69 00:03:45.000 --> 00:03:47.800 this year. A family who, by the way, that I 70 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:51.919 know very well and I'm friends with them. They arrived 71 00:03:51.919 --> 00:03:55.240 here to camp in an undisclosed location. I will not 72 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:58.199 disclose the exact location, although it is very near to 73 00:03:58.240 --> 00:04:01.599 where I sit right now as I share this account 74 00:04:01.639 --> 00:04:04.639 with you. Send in a creek bottom of a small 75 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:07.759 stream that feeds one of the major creeks here in 76 00:04:07.800 --> 00:04:11.639 northwest Cleveland County, very isolated area, and I'm not going 77 00:04:11.719 --> 00:04:14.719 to reveal the family's identity either. I will respect their 78 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:18.120 request for anonymity. But they arrived that beautiful July day. 79 00:04:18.759 --> 00:04:21.079 They began to set up camp in the secluded spot, 80 00:04:22.040 --> 00:04:25.040 and I joined them, and the sound of their children 81 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:28.879 laughing and playing the forest. They were just having a 82 00:04:28.879 --> 00:04:32.399 great time. Mom, dad, twenty two year old son, nineteen 83 00:04:32.439 --> 00:04:34.800 year old son, nine year old son, and seven year 84 00:04:34.800 --> 00:04:38.160 old daughter. They got camp set up, just a wonderful day. 85 00:04:38.680 --> 00:04:42.399 As nighttime started approaching, they lit a campfire, and I 86 00:04:42.480 --> 00:04:44.839 bid them adieu and left them. I wanted them to 87 00:04:44.920 --> 00:04:48.800 enjoy their family time, and as they reported, they just 88 00:04:48.839 --> 00:04:51.959 sat relaxing and talking about whatever subject came up. The 89 00:04:52.079 --> 00:04:56.240 kids were playing. They had no idea the terror that 90 00:04:56.279 --> 00:04:59.240 they were on experience that night. As the fire died 91 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:04.680 down and the conversation died down to a more hushed voice, 92 00:05:05.360 --> 00:05:08.759 they begin to hear sounds. Now, it's important to note 93 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.079 that they were not unaware of the reputation of this area. 94 00:05:12.680 --> 00:05:18.879 They were very educated on things. The dad experienced outdoorsman 95 00:05:18.959 --> 00:05:22.279 and hunter, and he has hunted this area and he 96 00:05:22.319 --> 00:05:27.079 has heard sounds like I'm about to describe, So they 97 00:05:27.120 --> 00:05:30.600 were unexpected. But first they begin to hear the sound 98 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:34.000 of a distant wood knock. Now, that is a well 99 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:37.600 known sound in the world of cryptid investigation, and it's 100 00:05:37.639 --> 00:05:40.839 simply where something or somebody picks up a piece of 101 00:05:40.879 --> 00:05:44.439 wood and that strikes a tree very distinct soil. They 102 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:48.800 heard that, and then from another location in the distance, 103 00:05:49.319 --> 00:05:52.759 they heard more wood knock and it stopped. And as 104 00:05:52.759 --> 00:05:56.040 they listen, then they begin to hear whoops. I will 105 00:05:56.040 --> 00:05:58.279 try to mimic that sound for you. It's a well 106 00:05:58.319 --> 00:06:01.959 known sound again in the area of crypt investigation, but 107 00:06:02.040 --> 00:06:07.800 it sounds something like this. I don't do it justice. 108 00:06:08.319 --> 00:06:11.759 It's far creepier in real life. And they begin to 109 00:06:11.800 --> 00:06:14.839 hear that and They report to me that they were 110 00:06:14.959 --> 00:06:17.439 put on guard, but they were excited that they got 111 00:06:17.519 --> 00:06:23.079 to hear this. They had to anticipated not getting to 112 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:24.959 hear it because I told them the chances of it 113 00:06:25.079 --> 00:06:28.519 happening was probably pretty slim. So they were excited and 114 00:06:29.639 --> 00:06:33.399 they began to drift off to sleep. The fire had 115 00:06:33.439 --> 00:06:36.680 died down even more. Dad went out first and soon 116 00:06:36.920 --> 00:06:40.160 was sleeping. Mom was drifting off to sleep, but she 117 00:06:40.279 --> 00:06:44.480 was suddenly awakened by her children and they alerted her 118 00:06:44.759 --> 00:06:48.800 with some very ominous words, and they said, Mom, there's 119 00:06:48.839 --> 00:06:51.399 something in the woods. And so she came out of 120 00:06:51.399 --> 00:06:54.519 her tent to investigate, and suddenly there was a voice. 121 00:06:55.199 --> 00:06:57.439 This is very close to them, very close to their 122 00:06:57.480 --> 00:07:01.319 camp inside the woods, across the crew, but very close. 123 00:07:01.879 --> 00:07:05.600 And she reports to me that this language that she 124 00:07:05.720 --> 00:07:10.279 was hearing was not quote. It was not a human language. 125 00:07:10.720 --> 00:07:15.680 And Mom is a very educated and very intelligent person, 126 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.240 and I believe her when she says that. But she 127 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:23.079 said it was not a human language. She said she 128 00:07:23.160 --> 00:07:25.560 responded in a strange way with only things she thought 129 00:07:25.600 --> 00:07:28.160 of at the time, and said she said that she 130 00:07:29.160 --> 00:07:33.040 out loud, stated, I am sorry if we disturbed you, 131 00:07:33.079 --> 00:07:35.959 and we were making too much voice. And in reply 132 00:07:36.079 --> 00:07:39.839 to that, from a second direction, a different source, she 133 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:44.399 heard a voice speaking this same strange language and it 134 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:48.519 sounded angry. And then the first voice from the first 135 00:07:48.560 --> 00:07:52.600 location said something else in this strange language, and then 136 00:07:52.600 --> 00:07:56.279 that was it. They heard no more of the language anymore. 137 00:07:56.560 --> 00:07:59.839 They were up and they were all duard and alert, 138 00:08:00.399 --> 00:08:02.759 and they begin to hear walking near their camp in 139 00:08:02.800 --> 00:08:06.600 the woods. Now, the husband being an experienced outdoorsman at hunter, 140 00:08:07.360 --> 00:08:10.319 he reported to me that it was something walking on 141 00:08:10.439 --> 00:08:14.120 two feet. And then from a second direction they heard 142 00:08:14.160 --> 00:08:17.759 the same thing of something walking on two feet in 143 00:08:17.800 --> 00:08:21.120 the woods, not far from their camp at all. And 144 00:08:21.160 --> 00:08:24.040 then from a third direction behind them, and it became 145 00:08:24.160 --> 00:08:27.759 very obvious that they were surrounded. And they huddled and 146 00:08:27.800 --> 00:08:30.839 they were terrified. It's happened to me, and it is 147 00:08:30.879 --> 00:08:34.600 a terrifying feeling being in the dark woods being surrounded 148 00:08:34.600 --> 00:08:37.000 by something and you don't know what that something is. 149 00:08:37.399 --> 00:08:41.840 And they debated on what to do, so Dad decided 150 00:08:41.840 --> 00:08:45.240 that they would just stay in place, huddle together. They 151 00:08:45.240 --> 00:08:47.960 were armed, but he said that being armed didn't do 152 00:08:48.080 --> 00:08:51.720 anything to help alleviate the fear. And I understand that 153 00:08:52.279 --> 00:08:55.600 the walking from the three different directions continued for what 154 00:08:55.720 --> 00:08:59.919 seemed like an eternity, and they endured it. They wrote 155 00:08:59.919 --> 00:09:03.399 it tonight. They were afraid to try to leave. They 156 00:09:03.399 --> 00:09:06.720 were afraid to do anything other than sit there and watch. 157 00:09:07.320 --> 00:09:11.360 And they began packing up thirty minutes after they stopped 158 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:16.080 hearing the sounds of these things walking around them, And 159 00:09:16.159 --> 00:09:18.799 that was well before son. By sun up, they were 160 00:09:18.840 --> 00:09:22.399 packed up and leaving the area. So he texted me 161 00:09:22.440 --> 00:09:24.039 and asked me to call him, and they told me 162 00:09:24.120 --> 00:09:26.399 the story over the phone that morning, and I heard 163 00:09:26.480 --> 00:09:30.960 the terror and the fright and their voices. I asked, 164 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:33.440 did dis language sound like gibberish? And they said no. 165 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.240 The mom said no, it sounded like some form of communication. 166 00:09:37.399 --> 00:09:40.360 It just wasn't human. So I sent them a link 167 00:09:40.480 --> 00:09:42.840 to what is called the Sierra Sounds. It was some 168 00:09:42.919 --> 00:09:45.480 tapes made in the nineteen seventies in the Sierra Nevada 169 00:09:45.480 --> 00:09:49.200 Mountains of California, and you can easily find that on 170 00:09:49.279 --> 00:09:52.039 TikTok or whatever platform. You can google it and you'll 171 00:09:52.039 --> 00:09:53.960 find these tapes and you'll get to hear them for 172 00:09:54.080 --> 00:09:56.720 their cell. The family still talks about it. They bring 173 00:09:56.759 --> 00:09:58.559 it up often, and I can tell that they are 174 00:09:58.639 --> 00:10:03.120 deeply impacted. But oddly enough, they have asked if they 175 00:10:03.159 --> 00:10:06.559 could come in camp again at a later date, and 176 00:10:06.600 --> 00:10:08.919 they've asked if I would come camp with him and 177 00:10:09.000 --> 00:10:12.440 maybe bring somebody else. But that's what happens when you 178 00:10:12.480 --> 00:10:15.559 have your own experience, you kind of get bit by 179 00:10:15.600 --> 00:10:17.159 the bug, so to speak, and you be in the 180 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:21.759 wann Itchers. So that's their story, and I believe every 181 00:10:21.759 --> 00:10:24.639 word of it. This is a Dark Roads and red Eyes. 182 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.360 In the summer of twenty twenty one, I was approached 183 00:10:27.399 --> 00:10:29.279 by an elderly gentleman who said that he had an 184 00:10:29.360 --> 00:10:32.440 encounter many years earlier that he wanted to tell me about, 185 00:10:32.519 --> 00:10:33.919 as a matter of fact, the words he uses to 186 00:10:33.960 --> 00:10:36.600 get off his chest. He said that he had not 187 00:10:36.720 --> 00:10:39.080 spoken of it since the night it happened, the night 188 00:10:39.120 --> 00:10:41.679 that he described to his father what happened. So we 189 00:10:41.720 --> 00:10:44.000 sat down and talked, and I listened to the man's stories. 190 00:10:44.039 --> 00:10:46.000 I saw his eyes glaze over as he went back 191 00:10:46.000 --> 00:10:49.799 in time. I would say that almost immediately that you 192 00:10:49.799 --> 00:10:53.279 could see a fear in his face. He said November 193 00:10:54.240 --> 00:10:57.080 nineteen fifty two, he was fourteen years old and was 194 00:10:57.120 --> 00:11:00.759 living on a small family farm northeastern Rotherford County, which 195 00:11:00.799 --> 00:11:03.759 was budded right up against the South Mountains. That at 196 00:11:03.840 --> 00:11:06.240 that particular night, he was getting ready to go to bed, 197 00:11:06.519 --> 00:11:09.960 and his father came to him and said that he 198 00:11:10.039 --> 00:11:13.480 needed him to go down to the shed and check 199 00:11:13.559 --> 00:11:16.080 the gas valve on the tractor, and said that it 200 00:11:16.120 --> 00:11:17.919 was about a quarter mile from the house down a 201 00:11:18.120 --> 00:11:22.159 little narrow dirt road, So that immediately he was frightened 202 00:11:22.200 --> 00:11:25.039 to do that. He was scared to do that because 203 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.279 the local guidelines was you simply didn't go outside at 204 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:30.840 night far away from the house unless you absolutely had to. 205 00:11:31.919 --> 00:11:35.159 But also the encounters and the stories that his grandfather 206 00:11:35.240 --> 00:11:38.840 had shared with and regarding a wampus, which was just 207 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.200 an old fashioned word for a booger or a monster. 208 00:11:41.720 --> 00:11:44.879 The grandpa's stories will be included in a future episode. 209 00:11:45.399 --> 00:11:48.080 But he was also raised that if an elder asked 210 00:11:48.080 --> 00:11:50.080 you to do something, that you did it. So he 211 00:11:50.120 --> 00:11:53.120 pulled his overalls on and he grabbed a lantern, and 212 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:55.120 he lit the lantern and he went out. He said, 213 00:11:55.159 --> 00:11:58.080 immediately upon going out of the house into the darkness 214 00:11:58.080 --> 00:12:01.159 that he felt just a sense of uneasiness that was 215 00:12:01.279 --> 00:12:05.080 very uncomfortable, just a bad feeling in general, and that 216 00:12:05.159 --> 00:12:07.159 he chalked it up to his mind trying to play 217 00:12:07.480 --> 00:12:09.799 games with him. That he was determined not to be 218 00:12:09.840 --> 00:12:12.519 a scaredy cat. He said, as he walked down that 219 00:12:12.559 --> 00:12:14.960 dirt road and he started this journey down to the 220 00:12:14.960 --> 00:12:18.919 shed in the barn area, that feeling increased, the bad feeling, 221 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:23.320 a feeling that he was being watched by somebody. That 222 00:12:23.440 --> 00:12:25.720 it just got worse with every step that he took. 223 00:12:25.960 --> 00:12:29.720 He said, as he approached the gate to this area, 224 00:12:30.240 --> 00:12:33.519 that he heard off to his right an animal sound, 225 00:12:33.639 --> 00:12:36.480 and I asked him to describe it. He said it 226 00:12:36.519 --> 00:12:39.360 was an animal sound he had never heard before, that 227 00:12:39.440 --> 00:12:43.440 it sounded like a sick owl, only with a really 228 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.799 deep voice. And I further pressed him, and he made 229 00:12:45.879 --> 00:12:48.120 the sound of it, and he continued his story. As 230 00:12:48.120 --> 00:12:50.159 he was trying to get the gate unfastened. He said 231 00:12:50.159 --> 00:12:53.240 he was already nearly to a state of panic and 232 00:12:53.279 --> 00:12:55.480 his hands were shaken as he was trying to get 233 00:12:55.480 --> 00:12:59.200 that chain unhooked. That he heard something the walk just 234 00:12:59.320 --> 00:13:02.600 behind the sh shed this barn area. He got through 235 00:13:02.639 --> 00:13:04.440 the gate and he got to the shed where the 236 00:13:04.440 --> 00:13:07.200 tractor was, and that he was immediately overcome by this 237 00:13:07.399 --> 00:13:10.559 foul stench. He said that he had smelled it a 238 00:13:10.600 --> 00:13:13.440 few times in the past, only it was very faint. 239 00:13:13.600 --> 00:13:16.840 But he said that night it was so strong that 240 00:13:16.919 --> 00:13:19.960 it was nauseating. And I asked him to describe the 241 00:13:20.039 --> 00:13:23.159 odor to me, and he said that it was smell 242 00:13:23.279 --> 00:13:25.600 like a pig that had been watering in a pig 243 00:13:25.639 --> 00:13:29.559 pen that was full of rotten bodies. That's pretty characteristic 244 00:13:29.639 --> 00:13:32.879 of that smell in terms of correlating it with what 245 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:35.600 other people have reported. But that as he got to 246 00:13:35.720 --> 00:13:38.039 the tractor, he said, his lantern down and he looked 247 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:40.840 under there for where that valve was, and as he 248 00:13:40.919 --> 00:13:43.360 began to move the valve with his hands were shaken. 249 00:13:43.559 --> 00:13:46.399 That he heard the walking again close to him, and 250 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:50.159 that stench was even stronger. He managed to get that 251 00:13:50.240 --> 00:13:53.080 valve turned off. He said, it seemed like an eternity 252 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:55.600 getting that valve to shut off, but he got it, 253 00:13:55.720 --> 00:13:57.720 he said, picked his lantern up, and he hurried back 254 00:13:57.759 --> 00:13:59.759 to the gate and he was trying to close the 255 00:13:59.799 --> 00:14:02.440 gate and heads shaken and he was fumbling that chain around. 256 00:14:03.000 --> 00:14:08.440 He finally got it latched, and he again heard the footsteps, 257 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:12.000 only they seemed to be paralleling him. That it was 258 00:14:12.200 --> 00:14:14.399 just out of the reach of his lantern, out into 259 00:14:14.440 --> 00:14:17.320 the pasture beside that shed. He said that he turned 260 00:14:17.360 --> 00:14:19.000 around in before he knew that he was running, but 261 00:14:19.039 --> 00:14:21.159 the problem was he was carrying that lantern, and you 262 00:14:21.279 --> 00:14:23.919 can't see very far ahead of you carrying a lanner 263 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:28.200 five six feet something like that. He forced himself to 264 00:14:28.200 --> 00:14:30.240 slow down. He said, the oddist thought popped in his mind. 265 00:14:30.320 --> 00:14:34.000 His daddy had this old plow setting beside the dirt road, 266 00:14:34.600 --> 00:14:37.279 and that he pictured running into that thing in the dark, 267 00:14:37.320 --> 00:14:39.840 and nobody wants to run into an iron plow with 268 00:14:39.919 --> 00:14:43.080 their shin. He said it forced himself to stop running 269 00:14:43.080 --> 00:14:45.440 and was at a quick pace, and that as he 270 00:14:45.480 --> 00:14:48.879 went up the dirt road, that plow came into view 271 00:14:49.440 --> 00:14:53.799 and one more step revealed that someone. He said he 272 00:14:53.840 --> 00:14:57.759 thought someone was standing behind the plow, but another step 273 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:01.320 revealed in his words that it was not somebody, that 274 00:15:01.440 --> 00:15:02.480 it was something. 275 00:15:04.320 --> 00:15:06.200 Stay tuned for morseasquatch Oat to see. 276 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:12.879 We'll be right back after these messages. And I asked 277 00:15:12.960 --> 00:15:16.240 him to describe it. He said it was very big, 278 00:15:16.879 --> 00:15:21.639 seven eight foot tall or even taller, and that it 279 00:15:21.679 --> 00:15:24.600 looked to be covered in a dark colored hair. He 280 00:15:24.639 --> 00:15:26.639 said except for the face. He said he could see 281 00:15:26.639 --> 00:15:29.519 the mouth, he could see the eyes, and he said 282 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:32.159 it was the eyes that to this day, all these 283 00:15:32.240 --> 00:15:35.399 years later, he was fourteen years old in nineteen fifty two. 284 00:15:35.440 --> 00:15:38.639 Here it is the early two thousands, and he said 285 00:15:38.639 --> 00:15:41.159 that it still to this day makes him have lightmares 286 00:15:41.200 --> 00:15:43.279 to think about those eyes looking at him. I asked 287 00:15:43.320 --> 00:15:45.080 him to describe it. He said, as he held that 288 00:15:45.240 --> 00:15:49.320 lantern up, that those eyes shined a red and that 289 00:15:49.399 --> 00:15:51.279 it was just staring at him, and that it would 290 00:15:51.279 --> 00:15:55.080 blink and turn its head off to one side, turn 291 00:15:55.120 --> 00:15:57.840 it cock its head to the other side, and he 292 00:15:57.879 --> 00:16:01.120 said that in his words, he said he couldn't go anywhere. 293 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:04.159 He felt paralyzed, And his exact words was that he 294 00:16:04.200 --> 00:16:06.679 said he felt like he was standing in two deep postholes. 295 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:09.720 Said he couldn't yell, that he couldn't move a muscle, 296 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:12.799 and that thing was just staring at him and moving 297 00:16:12.840 --> 00:16:15.039 its head a little bit. He said that it grunted, 298 00:16:15.200 --> 00:16:17.159 and I asked him to describe the grunt. He said 299 00:16:17.200 --> 00:16:19.399 it was a very deep version of something like you 300 00:16:19.399 --> 00:16:22.360 would hear out of a boarhog. But he said, finally 301 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:24.840 he was opening his mouth. Nothing was coming out, and 302 00:16:24.879 --> 00:16:28.399 finally something came out. He was yelling for his father, 303 00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:30.879 and he finally was able to vocalize it. He said, 304 00:16:30.879 --> 00:16:33.799 by then he was shaking so bad that his heart 305 00:16:33.879 --> 00:16:36.200 was going to beat out of his chest, and that 306 00:16:36.279 --> 00:16:40.279 when he yelled that, the thing moved its head and 307 00:16:40.360 --> 00:16:43.639 grunted again and stared at him for another couple of seconds, 308 00:16:43.759 --> 00:16:46.840 and then just calmly turned and walked away. He said 309 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:50.159 that had approached the fence just beside the dirt road. 310 00:16:50.720 --> 00:16:53.480 He said it stepped over the fence. He said, it 311 00:16:53.519 --> 00:16:55.720 didn't jump the fence. It didn't have to have any 312 00:16:55.759 --> 00:16:58.360 effort getting over the fence. He just stepped over the 313 00:16:58.399 --> 00:17:02.159 four foot fence, walked into the darkness, and as soon 314 00:17:02.200 --> 00:17:04.880 as he lost sight of it, he started running. He said, 315 00:17:04.880 --> 00:17:06.319 if I ran into something, I was just going to 316 00:17:06.400 --> 00:17:08.160 run into it. But he ran all the way back 317 00:17:08.160 --> 00:17:10.319 to the house, screaming for his father. His father come 318 00:17:10.359 --> 00:17:13.119 out the back door onto the back porch and met 319 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:16.359 him at the steps and said, what's wrong. What's going on? 320 00:17:17.519 --> 00:17:19.680 He started telling me. The father said, lower your voice, 321 00:17:20.160 --> 00:17:22.599 and he began to tell his father what happened. His 322 00:17:22.640 --> 00:17:25.279 father said, I don't want you to ever forget this. 323 00:17:25.799 --> 00:17:27.759 He said, if you ever go back out at night again, 324 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:30.480 you take my pistol. If I can't go with you, 325 00:17:30.480 --> 00:17:32.799 you take somebody. If somebody can't go with you, you 326 00:17:32.960 --> 00:17:36.400 have that pistol on you. But never forget this night. 327 00:17:37.279 --> 00:17:39.839 And he said that his father told him never speak 328 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:42.400 of this again to anybody, and that his father also 329 00:17:42.480 --> 00:17:45.039 said that they would talk more about it later, and 330 00:17:45.079 --> 00:17:48.440 they did. I'll share that part of this in a 331 00:17:48.480 --> 00:17:52.240 future episode. But he said that this day that he 332 00:17:52.400 --> 00:17:56.200 has an nyightmares about those red eyes real quick. An 333 00:17:56.279 --> 00:17:59.599 elderly couple came to me in the winter of two 334 00:17:59.640 --> 00:18:02.079 thousand and in twenty two and said that they had 335 00:18:02.119 --> 00:18:05.319 an encounter that night before. This was a November of 336 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:08.119 twenty twenty two, and that they was riding up a 337 00:18:08.200 --> 00:18:11.680 road here in this area north of kaser and as 338 00:18:11.720 --> 00:18:14.240 they went up a hill off to the right, he 339 00:18:14.279 --> 00:18:17.279 said he noticed this large person. He said, as he 340 00:18:17.359 --> 00:18:19.920 got closer, he said, it was way too large to 341 00:18:19.920 --> 00:18:21.640 be a man, and he said, I seen that it 342 00:18:21.759 --> 00:18:24.359 was covered in the hair. He thought have slowed down 343 00:18:24.559 --> 00:18:26.400 because I was afraid it was going to step out 344 00:18:26.400 --> 00:18:28.440 in front of him. As they approached it, it turned 345 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:30.720 its head and looked at him, and when the lights 346 00:18:30.759 --> 00:18:33.839 hid its eyes that they shone red, and him and 347 00:18:33.880 --> 00:18:35.960 his wife were both shaken and said we'll never go 348 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:39.240 out after dark again. Now, I want to take your 349 00:18:39.279 --> 00:18:41.440 attention back to an elderly friend of mine a couple 350 00:18:41.480 --> 00:18:43.279 of years ago related to me the story of when 351 00:18:43.319 --> 00:18:45.920 he was a kid in the late fifties, late one night, 352 00:18:45.960 --> 00:18:48.279 he got sent down to the barn slash tractor shed 353 00:18:48.279 --> 00:18:50.920 area by his father. He had a horrifying experience. I 354 00:18:50.960 --> 00:18:54.039 also explained that he said his grandfather and his father 355 00:18:54.119 --> 00:18:56.960 had told him later of some incidents in the experiences 356 00:18:57.000 --> 00:19:01.519 that they had. Tonight's is about experience that his grandfather 357 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:04.839 and his great uncle, his grandfather's brother, an experience that 358 00:19:04.960 --> 00:19:08.279 they had. Matter of fact, it was the first experience 359 00:19:08.319 --> 00:19:11.839 that his grandfather ever spoke of to my friend. The 360 00:19:11.920 --> 00:19:15.119 year was late nineteen sixteen early nineteen seventeen. He said 361 00:19:15.160 --> 00:19:18.440 his grandfather was able to confidently mark that as the 362 00:19:18.480 --> 00:19:21.119 time frame for this incident because he said it was 363 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:23.640 the winter prior to the United States being involved in 364 00:19:23.680 --> 00:19:26.839 World War One, so that would make it winter of 365 00:19:26.960 --> 00:19:32.359 nineteen sixteen or early in nineteen seventeen. Now, they lived 366 00:19:32.359 --> 00:19:34.119 on the same farm that my friend grew up on. 367 00:19:34.359 --> 00:19:37.920 That farm's been in that family for a number of generations. 368 00:19:38.200 --> 00:19:42.119 Back then, in nineteen sixteen early nineteen seventeen, the grandfather 369 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:45.240 and his brother had scouted an area into the interior 370 00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.359 of the South Mountains that they determined will be a 371 00:19:47.359 --> 00:19:50.400 good area for rabbit hunting and trapping. It was a 372 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:52.480 creek bottom area, but up on high ground there was 373 00:19:52.480 --> 00:19:54.480 an open field and there was an old homestead there 374 00:19:54.640 --> 00:19:59.279 and it was a small, little, small subsistence farm apparently, 375 00:19:59.279 --> 00:20:03.119 but it was a band, a cabin, a small barn, 376 00:20:03.680 --> 00:20:08.039 spring house, chicken coop, covered pig pen. But they had 377 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.480 to secure permission. Now there's the ethos to this day 378 00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:14.039 in areas like this, especially in the mountains, in the fields, 379 00:20:14.039 --> 00:20:15.680 if you're gonna be on a man's property, you need 380 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:17.680 to talk, or a woman's property, you need to talk 381 00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:21.039 with them in secure permission. Trouble was, the man did 382 00:20:21.079 --> 00:20:23.200 not live in the immediate area. He lived in town, 383 00:20:23.839 --> 00:20:26.279 and back then town that might as well be on 384 00:20:26.279 --> 00:20:27.799 the other side of the country. They had to wait 385 00:20:27.920 --> 00:20:31.039 until their dad had business in that town to go 386 00:20:31.079 --> 00:20:33.480 with him to find the men. And the families knew 387 00:20:33.519 --> 00:20:35.240 each other, and the man knew them, but they had 388 00:20:35.279 --> 00:20:37.599 to get his permission. So they came when the father 389 00:20:38.559 --> 00:20:40.240 had to go into town, and they went with them, 390 00:20:40.359 --> 00:20:42.559 and they found them in and explained what they were 391 00:20:42.559 --> 00:20:45.039 wanting to do. The grandfather said that the man was 392 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:46.920 hesitant at first. He said, I know you boys, I 393 00:20:47.000 --> 00:20:49.880 know your trustworthy, I know your families, and you can 394 00:20:49.920 --> 00:20:51.920 do this. You can hunt and trap the area. But 395 00:20:52.200 --> 00:20:54.359 there's some rules you're gonna have to abide by. First 396 00:20:54.359 --> 00:20:57.799 and foremost, he said, do not sleep in any of 397 00:20:57.839 --> 00:21:01.440 the structures located on that old home. Now stop. My friend, 398 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:03.880 when he was telling me this, I said, do you 399 00:21:03.920 --> 00:21:06.599 know why he said that? And sure enough, the man 400 00:21:06.640 --> 00:21:09.920 explained to him. He said that homestead now belongs to 401 00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:13.599