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<v Speaker 1>Well, Hello, I'm Nicole and I'm Ben and you're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Wicked and.

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<v Speaker 2>Grim, a true crime podcast. Warning. The following podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>And material intended for a mature audience. Listener discretion is advised.

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<v Speaker 2>That was upbeat.

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<v Speaker 1>That was an upbeat intro. Wow, look at us for

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<v Speaker 1>a grim podcast. That was very upbeat.

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<v Speaker 2>We're living our best life, we are.

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<v Speaker 1>I've got meat. What are you drinking?

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<v Speaker 2>I am actually drinking wine from our local winery. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a fruit winery place.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine's even more local than you, actually, very much so.

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<v Speaker 1>Because ours this came from our kitchen.

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<v Speaker 2>It did as local as it can get, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>made it myself. Is it good? It is?

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<v Speaker 1>I've made better, but it's good. But this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>the last batch of mead I'm ever gonna make.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what never say never well as.

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<v Speaker 1>The foreseeable future for anyone who doesn't know. Mead is wine.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's honey based. It's like what the Vikings used

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<v Speaker 1>to make back in the day. So I made honey

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<v Speaker 1>wine myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Fits your character very well?

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<v Speaker 1>What is my character that it fits?

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<v Speaker 2>Like your beard? You're like a manly man and you

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<v Speaker 2>like your maid.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you just describing Regnar? Lothbrook Off Vikings.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like him. Actually, I was like obsessed with Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a damn good show.

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<v Speaker 2>Sobering good. Okay. Wasn't there supposed to be like a

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<v Speaker 2>spin off or something of that sort. There was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to take place like I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was like two hundred years afterwards in the city or

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<v Speaker 1>the township. Yeah, that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>And they were just like a distant not I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna say future, but past or whatever, like, well, it's our.

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<v Speaker 1>Past technically, but the future. Yeah, so it's supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit of a time difference, and like, yeah, happened.

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<v Speaker 1>We should look that up, I know, because.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like it should be out by now, But

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<v Speaker 2>I could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>It may maybe it's over by now. Maybe it's already

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<v Speaker 1>like five seasons and done. Who fucking knows. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, knowing us, it probably is.

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<v Speaker 1>Probably Do you have any more news or anything we

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<v Speaker 1>need to drop this episode or can we just go

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<v Speaker 1>straight into this or what anything we need to say?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. We're really into Ramen right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yes we are?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that important?

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<v Speaker 1>Ramen's definitely important. I've been making home, making homemade.

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<v Speaker 2>Stuff actually like sour dough.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, haven't made that for a while. I should probably

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<v Speaker 1>make them soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We made some said, you're annoyed with the other day.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, you got to start making sour I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I would I if you just do it, though, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>getting tired of making all this handmade freaking sour dough.

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<v Speaker 2>At home.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't buy bread anymore, just have sour dough, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting like tired of it. And it's like you

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<v Speaker 1>want me to keep going clearly because you just get

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<v Speaker 1>fresh baked bread. Well, time to pull your own.

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<v Speaker 2>Damn, I just raked the backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Then that equals fresh bread for the rest of your life.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, let's go.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's on that note, let's go into this.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Wicked and Grim guys.

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<v Speaker 2>This is yeah, this is this is it. It just

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<v Speaker 2>goes downhill.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure the entire podcast is basically just going

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<v Speaker 1>to be us taking notes on how we can get

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<v Speaker 1>away with murder if the other one pisses us off enough.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't say that kind of ship.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know, we don't want to get an evidence

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<v Speaker 1>evidence My bad. I mean that was a joke, total joke.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh No, But today we're talking a very serious, serious episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, you got very serious, or even your eye

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<v Speaker 2>contact got seriously. This is like.

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<v Speaker 1>The worst thing in Canadian history, like ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm very intrigued.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Great maple Syrup Heist.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh casey, I actually know nothing about this.

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<v Speaker 1>You know nothing about it?

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't. I actually didn't really even know it

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<v Speaker 2>was a thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm gonna learn you a little bit on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>We bleed maple syrup up here in the North, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we do. And the fact that there was a giant

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<v Speaker 1>heist stealing a bunch of maple syrup, it's literally our

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<v Speaker 1>life blood just gone.

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<v Speaker 2>Maple syrup is freaking delicious, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>And fun fact about this case though, it's not only

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<v Speaker 1>the Great maple Syrup Heist, it's the largest heist in

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<v Speaker 1>Canadian history.

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<v Speaker 2>Wom ding dang.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So it's pretty crazy cool. So let's start this off.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's dive right in.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>So, between twenty eleven and twenty twelve, eighteen point seven

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars was stolen in nearly three thousand tons of

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup from a storage facility in Quebec, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you say how much money again?

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<v Speaker 1>Eighteen point seven million?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Good lord. I wasn't produce AD eighteen or eight,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, holy one eight point seven that's an insane number.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a ship time in maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>No kidding, because it's only it's like gold or anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it kind of is. I'm gonna we'll get into

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<v Speaker 1>this here in a sec. So, like, really, before we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the whole story, I'm going to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give you a background on that, like what you're going

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<v Speaker 1>after here. So first off, before we get numbers of

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<v Speaker 1>like monetary wise, let's get numbers on production. So Canada

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<v Speaker 1>produces approximately seventy five percent of the world's maple syrup supply. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>and ninety one percent of that supply comes from Quebec.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yep. Okay, see I had no idea about this.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some good learnings right there.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't need to go to school kids, just listen

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<v Speaker 1>to us.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. And this this might be a really dumb question,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the like aunt Jemima, Oh no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 2>that's not Canadians.

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<v Speaker 1>That's no, that's just like flavored corn syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. See. I was like, I don't know maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>is actually but.

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<v Speaker 1>Not talking maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>You get good, delicious, the good shit. Okay, not this,

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<v Speaker 2>So is that not even maple syrup?

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<v Speaker 1>No, that's that's just syrup. That's just a flavored syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>Look at I'm learning a lot already. It's like five

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<v Speaker 2>minutes in. I like this.

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<v Speaker 1>So, on average, a tapped maple tree will produce ten

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<v Speaker 1>gallons ten to twenty gallons sorry of sap per tap.

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<v Speaker 1>And it takes ten gallons of sap to make approximately

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<v Speaker 1>one quart of syrup from harvest. Okay, so it takes

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. Yeah. And maple syrup is valued at approximately

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<v Speaker 1>twelve hundred dollars a barrel. That's two dollars and eighty

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<v Speaker 1>eight cents a pound. Now this is all Canadian monetary.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>And just for a reference, crude oil like to make gasoline,

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<v Speaker 1>is around sixty five dollars a barrel. So that makes

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup ten to twelve times more valuable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah than crude all.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it is gold, it's liquid fucking gold.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's that's why we Canadians are pretty serious about

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<v Speaker 1>our maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>Very serious. Yeah, and now we know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's literally liquid gold. It tastes fucking delicious. It's

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<v Speaker 1>comes from our own land and it's fucking liquid gold.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, screw hot sauce. We put maple syrup on everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making us sound so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit on everything. Oh my god, you can a stir fry.

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<v Speaker 1>Where's the maple syrup?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? I think I oh man.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, so we all know about the black market, right

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<v Speaker 1>due to the prices like twelve hundred dollars a barrel. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's a black market for maple.

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<v Speaker 2>Syrup really, yeah, right, along with organs and stuff. Literally, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's nuts.

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<v Speaker 1>And the funny part is this is hilarious to find

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<v Speaker 1>this hilarious. This black market for maple syrup is controlled

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<v Speaker 1>by what is commonly referred to. This isn't a name

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<v Speaker 1>I made up or just from one article. This is

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<v Speaker 1>a common name for them, the maple syrup Cartel.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh serious and fucking serious, holy free, This is.

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<v Speaker 1>Some literal godfather shit.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So welcome to fucking Canada. Don't fuck with our

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup or our geese. You'll die.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, it just got real.

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<v Speaker 1>What really did.

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<v Speaker 2>So?

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<v Speaker 1>How much you learned so far?

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<v Speaker 2>So much. Actually, like I'm actually shocked because I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I've almost like like I'm not a very good Canadian

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<v Speaker 2>so far because I'm like, holy shit, like I probably

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<v Speaker 2>know this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're learning it today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I might have to like re listen to this

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<v Speaker 2>shit to make sure I really got it in there.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling this is gonna be a shit

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<v Speaker 1>show of an episode, just if you're going what and

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<v Speaker 1>me being like, yeah, Godfather shit. Also we put that shit.

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<v Speaker 2>On everything, Yeah, we really do.

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<v Speaker 1>So when it comes to the whole Godfather shit. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>the Federation of Quebec Maple Syrup Producers is the exact

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<v Speaker 1>federation who controls all this. I'm the maple syrup cartel

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<v Speaker 1>on the black market. That's a little bit different. The

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<v Speaker 1>Federation is like the fucking FBI sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, So they.

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<v Speaker 1>Are literally the head of maple syrup production and tells

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the country how to make and sell

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<v Speaker 1>their maple syrup. Okay, They somehow managed to convince the

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<v Speaker 1>government to approve and enforce that they are in control

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<v Speaker 1>of buying from producers to sell and distribute the syrup

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<v Speaker 1>wholesale across the globe. Basically that states that if you

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<v Speaker 1>ever own or even inherit or grow maple trees, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were, and you were to produce maple syrup for wholesale,

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<v Speaker 1>you have to go through them for your sales and

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<v Speaker 1>pay them for their service.

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<v Speaker 2>Really yeah, how did they do this?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Wow, this is government law. If you

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<v Speaker 1>were to produce maple syrup for wholesale, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>go through them and pay them for their service.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, that's totally fucked up.

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<v Speaker 2>That's some intent shit, I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, so we literally have the Federation, the Federation of

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<v Speaker 1>Quebec Maple Syrup Producers. I love saying that, but I'll

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<v Speaker 1>refer to them as the federation. So we have the Federation,

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<v Speaker 1>who's like literally the FBI of the maple syrup world

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<v Speaker 1>and the maple syrup cartel running the black market for

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<v Speaker 1>maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, Like this means serious business.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it fucking do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's business time, man, it's business it's business time.

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<v Speaker 1>Motherfucker. Come on, we got maple syrup and its fucking

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<v Speaker 1>isness time. Sorry oh boy, anyways, I'm not a singer.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. Your ears are bleeding now, My bad. So anyways,

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<v Speaker 1>they maintained this whole federation. They may maintain a strategic

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<v Speaker 1>reserve of maple syrup, officially known as the International Strategic Reserve,

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<v Speaker 1>the Global Strategic Maple Syrup Reserve.

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<v Speaker 2>Good lord, this is getting too much. It's a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>it is. It's so in depth, just some freaking maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm only scratching the surface on this information too. It

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<v Speaker 1>was way too in depth for me to get into.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, this is the basic information here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm actually shocked too, because how could anyone even

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<v Speaker 1>That's the whole thing, with the whole black market. There's

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<v Speaker 1>people like trying to rise up against this federation because

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're saying, like, how can you control this, Like

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<v Speaker 1>you're literally holding us all hostage with her own supply here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, huh.

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<v Speaker 1>So, anyways, these reserves, these strategic reserves, are to ensure

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<v Speaker 1>that they slow the steady flow of syrup supply and

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<v Speaker 1>make sure it's pushed to the markets at a rate

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<v Speaker 1>that keeps the prices from fluctuating.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I guess that's fair.

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<v Speaker 1>It gives the federation complete control over supply and demand,

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<v Speaker 1>with the ability to charge what they want, hence the

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<v Speaker 1>extremely high maple syrup prices.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, but that is good for the I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know what you call them suppliers though, that they are

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<v Speaker 2>maintaining this high level price for their.

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<v Speaker 1>Products necessarily because the Federation will be like, our reserves

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<v Speaker 1>are full.

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<v Speaker 2>This doesn't even sound very Canadian, really, I mean it does.

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<v Speaker 1>When you consider the fact that our fucking cartel is

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<v Speaker 1>based around maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>So, yeah, it's kind of fucked up. It's very Canadian

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, but like that is but just.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the control ness and like not where's like the

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<v Speaker 2>nice cities of you getting to do your own shit.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to catch a little bit of flak here,

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<v Speaker 1>no offense, I'm sorry, but we are talking about Quebec.

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<v Speaker 1>They're dicks. They wanted to separate from Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, are they the dicks of Canada? I don't

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<v Speaker 2>even okay, I didn't mean, oh gosh, oh gosh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but I actually don't remember if I did. Where did

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<v Speaker 2>we hear this that they wanted to separate?

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is common knowledge, This is history. Do

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<v Speaker 1>they still want to majority? I think yeah, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to separate from Canada.

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<v Speaker 2>That would be really weird.

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<v Speaker 1>No offense, You're not assholes, You're just.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't make me mad, you just make me disappointed worse.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. Let let's push this aside. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get all political on this. But anyways, due to

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<v Speaker 1>the overbearing control from the Federation, they basically have people

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<v Speaker 1>who started trying to sell maple syrup on the black

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<v Speaker 1>market right controlled by the cartel. Yeah, reserve facilities being placed. Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my spot and I tried to like brain

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<v Speaker 1>fart my way through it. That wasn't gonna work. So

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<v Speaker 1>reserve facilities being places that houses essentially like guess, like

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<v Speaker 1>we said, liquid gold for the world are in a

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<v Speaker 1>few spots around Quebec. Their top of the line security

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<v Speaker 1>is basically impenetrable. Oh sorry, laughable, it's laughable, not impenetrable.

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<v Speaker 1>They're basically just warehouses, no security cameras, no arms, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>a chain link fence with like maybe a princess auto

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<v Speaker 1>lock on it, so.

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<v Speaker 2>Like someone's backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>Basically pretty much. Yeah, it's at best you might have

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<v Speaker 1>a security guard do with rounds like once.

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<v Speaker 2>In a while, which is interesting really with the value.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh I know, and there is a history of maple

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<v Speaker 1>syrup being stolen too.

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<v Speaker 2>Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a truck that was stolen with heavily it

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<v Speaker 1>was ten thousand dollars worth of maple syrup prior to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was in two thousand and three, somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>around there. I didn't write these ones down. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like pluck that, I'm not going to get onto them.

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<v Speaker 1>Here we are now I'm talking about it. And another

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<v Speaker 1>case with actually an individual who was involved in this one.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that later who had stole I think

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<v Speaker 1>one point three million dollars worth of maple syrup. But

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<v Speaker 1>they still haven't actually tied anyone to that case. But

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<v Speaker 1>the dude who headed this is the prime suspect. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so there is a history a thing of maple syrup theft.

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<v Speaker 1>But still we're just talking just a warehouse down the

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<v Speaker 1>road off the highway with fucking bob. Who's the security

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<v Speaker 1>guy sleeping in the shack not doing his fucking job.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, not very smart, like I said, not impenetrable

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<v Speaker 1>laugh about security security. So with such crazy preventative measures

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<v Speaker 1>that they managed to do for their securities. We can

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<v Speaker 1>understand exactly how the maple syrup was basically stolen from

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<v Speaker 1>said top line facilities. Sorry, I'm gonna stop mocking that now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you can get over that. I can tell it's

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<v Speaker 2>just ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>So they discovered that there was missing maple syrup first

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<v Speaker 1>when a routine inventory check was being performed. It's an

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<v Speaker 1>annual check. Then you know, they go through and they

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<v Speaker 1>count all the barrels. They make sure they have their

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<v Speaker 1>inventory taken.

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<v Speaker 2>Care of good.

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<v Speaker 1>The person who was heading that inventory check at this

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<v Speaker 1>specific facility was I'm gonna butcher these names because it's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of French names. I'm gonna try. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Michuel garv Roau.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that doesn't sound too bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Just because it sounds bad, it doesn't sound bad,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean it's not right. And it was, say Miguel.

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<v Speaker 1>So he went to the warehouse insane Louis de Blancford,

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<v Speaker 1>de Blanford or whatever, just in Quebec. Again French, I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not a French person. Where it contained nearly sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>thousand drums stacked six high to the ceiling, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was in charge of counting those barrels all the way.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a lot of maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>And visualizing that right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, each one of those barrels weighed about six hundred pounds.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy crap.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a lot of maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy moly.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember I said it was like what two dollars and

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<v Speaker 1>eighty eight cents a pound.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you did something like that. Yeah, and there's six

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<v Speaker 2>hundred pounds in a barrel yep.

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<v Speaker 1>At sixteen thousand drums. Holy mola in Justice one facility.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is a sort of reserve that they're just

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<v Speaker 1>holding back and not putting it out to public so

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<v Speaker 1>they can maintain prices. So Mguel, I think climbed to

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the stack to get some heights, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>perform the count so you can get you know, perspective

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<v Speaker 1>and all that sort of thing. Yeah, doesn't sound safe

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<v Speaker 1>at all, just saying this. He just you know, scaling

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<v Speaker 1>six high.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil drums, always climbing on the barrel, climbing on the barrels.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, okay, friing loadder No, No.

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<v Speaker 1>He's just climbing up the top of the barrel. So

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<v Speaker 1>he's climbing and he reaches up to grab the top

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<v Speaker 1>barrel to pull himself up when it shifted, causing him

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<v Speaker 1>to fall backwards to the ground with a six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>pound barrel crashing down on top of him.

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<v Speaker 2>But the barrel wasn't actually full, was it.

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<v Speaker 1>The barrel didn't crush him because it didn't weigh six

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<v Speaker 1>hundred pounds because it was empty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I actually caught on earlier. I normally pat on

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<v Speaker 2>the back, baby, I'm smart tonight.

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<v Speaker 1>You got to do the back there, you go leave

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<v Speaker 1>me hanging there. So, yeah, thankfully the barrel was empty.

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<v Speaker 2>But then if the barrel was full, he might not

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<v Speaker 2>have fallen either though exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the six hundred pounds would have exactly. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>you're catching on, you know what you're talking about. So

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<v Speaker 1>an empty barrel, it's you know, definitely odd. And they

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<v Speaker 1>just chalked it up to an inventory error, as there

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<v Speaker 1>was actually multiple barrels that were empty in there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a handful, and they're just like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>shit like this happens. You know, something could have fucked up.

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<v Speaker 1>But three weeks later, another inventory check was performed, and

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<v Speaker 1>they found more empty barrels, and in fact others had

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<v Speaker 1>been filled with water.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow.

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<v Speaker 1>Over the course of the next three months, they discovered

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<v Speaker 1>nearly ten thousand barrels had been emptied of their contents,

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<v Speaker 1>with a value of over eighteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Holy shit. Yeah, So, were like the people still doing

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<v Speaker 2>it over that three months or had or had it

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<v Speaker 2>already been done?

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted they were still doing it. They were doing

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<v Speaker 1>it before the inventory check, and they were continuing to

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<v Speaker 1>do it.

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<v Speaker 2>See. I feel like I would find one empty barrel

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<v Speaker 2>and be like, what the fuck, and the Sebert just

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah whatever, like and then they don't even and

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<v Speaker 2>then they find mores, yeah whatever, they don't increase their

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<v Speaker 2>security and.

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<v Speaker 1>Shit, well, I mean if you just look at one

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<v Speaker 1>empty barrel, I mean, for someone who's making that much money,

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking at six hundred pounds times two point eight,

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<v Speaker 1>so six hundred basically times three, right, So you're looking

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<v Speaker 1>at how much is that? Like eighteen hundred dollars?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, but still like that. I'm pretty wait, no, how

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<v Speaker 2>much is that? I actually don't know six hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's eighteen eighteen hundred, Okay, Yeah, it's eighteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, Holy moly.

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<v Speaker 1>So, I mean eighteen hundred dollars down the drain and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a missing barrel. What the fuck? That's odd? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but for big corporation, that's not that much. It's just

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<v Speaker 1>one missing barrel. But then it starts adding up, adding up.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Once something happened twice is.

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<v Speaker 2>A what is it? Fool me? What is the same?

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<v Speaker 1>Well for me once, shame on you. For me twice,

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<v Speaker 1>shame on me. But I mean there's also once actually,

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<v Speaker 1>go well here, once is something happened? You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just yeah, whatever, twice coincidence? Three times as a pattern.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So, I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>We got this happening repeated repeatedly, and now we're getting

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<v Speaker 1>up to ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>To see what they were doing here, like how they're

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<v Speaker 2>getting it out of the barrels and what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 2>this is fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're going to get into it a little bit here.

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<v Speaker 2>And I also want a barrel of maple syrup.

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<v Speaker 1>Barrel of syrup. I really we'll oh god. So during

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<v Speaker 1>the whole time, there were actually eyewitnesses at the compound,

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<v Speaker 1>which were located just off the main highway like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>saying that there were trucks coming and going at strange

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<v Speaker 1>hours all throughout the day, at different times like day night,

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00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:33.599
<v Speaker 1>just weird nondescript trucks.

433
00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

434
00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:40.799
<v Speaker 1>One individual named Pascal Patrie I got that one pretty

435
00:21:40.839 --> 00:21:43.400
<v Speaker 1>good good job. He was a laborer who worked at

436
00:21:43.680 --> 00:21:47.880
<v Speaker 1>the specific facility loading and unloading trucks. And he actually

437
00:21:47.880 --> 00:21:51.720
<v Speaker 1>reported water on one of the barrels, which we're working

438
00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:54.359
<v Speaker 1>in maple syrup here. There shouldn't be water, right, yeah,

439
00:21:54.400 --> 00:21:57.799
<v Speaker 1>And he reported it to his manager, and his manager

440
00:21:57.920 --> 00:22:00.440
<v Speaker 1>offered him one thousand dollars to keep his mouth and

441
00:22:00.519 --> 00:22:01.359
<v Speaker 1>join the cause.

442
00:22:02.440 --> 00:22:05.680
<v Speaker 2>Really, yeah, I would take that deal.

443
00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:11.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, So he accepted. He would work for the federation,

444
00:22:11.440 --> 00:22:14.440
<v Speaker 1>you know because this is their their warehouse, right, So

445
00:22:14.480 --> 00:22:17.559
<v Speaker 1>he'd work his Federation job nine to five and then

446
00:22:17.960 --> 00:22:23.200
<v Speaker 1>after hours help the black market cartel thieves steal and

447
00:22:23.240 --> 00:22:26.279
<v Speaker 1>replace the maple syrup with water by night.

448
00:22:27.960 --> 00:22:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Yeah, So were they just putting that I don't know,

449
00:22:31.599 --> 00:22:33.960
<v Speaker 2>you might get here, but were they just putting emptying

450
00:22:34.000 --> 00:22:36.759
<v Speaker 2>the barrels of maple syrup into like another barrel and

451
00:22:36.839 --> 00:22:37.400
<v Speaker 2>taking it?

452
00:22:38.039 --> 00:22:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, what they were doing, because there was a different

453
00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:42.400
<v Speaker 1>ways they would do it. But the main way that

454
00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I found is they would essentially load up maple syrup

455
00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:51.319
<v Speaker 1>into their trucks and unload barrels filled with water.

456
00:22:51.759 --> 00:22:53.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah.

457
00:22:53.519 --> 00:22:58.519
<v Speaker 1>That's essentially what they would do. Interesting, So, most of

458
00:22:58.559 --> 00:23:02.680
<v Speaker 1>the workers who were actually involved in like that loading

459
00:23:02.680 --> 00:23:05.680
<v Speaker 1>and unloading process, even driving, didn't know they were even

460
00:23:05.680 --> 00:23:08.559
<v Speaker 1>a part of it, really they, or so they claim anyways,

461
00:23:08.839 --> 00:23:10.000
<v Speaker 1>because I mean if I was a part of it

462
00:23:10.000 --> 00:23:10.480
<v Speaker 1>and I knew, I.

463
00:23:10.640 --> 00:23:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Like, I'm just I don't know what the Yeah, no kidding,

464
00:23:12.799 --> 00:23:13.240
<v Speaker 2>No one.

465
00:23:13.079 --> 00:23:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Told me I was stealing shit. Uh So they're basically

466
00:23:15.519 --> 00:23:18.319
<v Speaker 1>just basically paid under the table to simply haul the

467
00:23:18.359 --> 00:23:20.759
<v Speaker 1>truck from like point A to point B or load

468
00:23:20.799 --> 00:23:24.519
<v Speaker 1>or unload the shipment at like weird specific times for cash.

469
00:23:25.160 --> 00:23:26.839
<v Speaker 1>So I mean there's gonna be people out there who

470
00:23:26.880 --> 00:23:28.559
<v Speaker 1>are looking for work or just fuck yeah, they're not

471
00:23:28.599 --> 00:23:29.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna ask questions, yes, do it?

472
00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:31.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they just need the money.

473
00:23:31.480 --> 00:23:31.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

474
00:23:32.119 --> 00:23:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

475
00:23:33.319 --> 00:23:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So a Karen VK Karen, I think it's a V Karen.

476
00:23:37.839 --> 00:23:41.480
<v Speaker 1>There we go. However, was a warehouse worker who would

477
00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:45.240
<v Speaker 1>be a key part and central figure for this whole operation.

478
00:23:45.960 --> 00:23:52.400
<v Speaker 1>A vek spouse actually owned the property this warehouse was in.

479
00:23:52.480 --> 00:23:56.200
<v Speaker 1>It was a rented warehouse she owned. Okay, well I'm

480
00:23:56.240 --> 00:23:59.039
<v Speaker 1>not sure if she owned it. I saw owned, but

481
00:23:59.160 --> 00:24:04.119
<v Speaker 1>I have a feeling it's more or like operated or something. Anyways. Yeah,

482
00:24:04.440 --> 00:24:07.640
<v Speaker 1>so his spouse was in charge of that, and he

483
00:24:07.720 --> 00:24:10.759
<v Speaker 1>had reported history as well, and a criminal record of fraud.

484
00:24:11.440 --> 00:24:15.519
<v Speaker 1>But he actually avoided jail time. Though he was a

485
00:24:15.640 --> 00:24:17.920
<v Speaker 1>central and important part of this whole thing. He wasn't

486
00:24:17.960 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 1>the head of the snake. He wasn't the only one.

487
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:22.880
<v Speaker 1>The whole head of the thing was reserved for a

488
00:24:22.920 --> 00:24:27.480
<v Speaker 1>man by the name of Ricard Valliers. He was what

489
00:24:27.559 --> 00:24:30.799
<v Speaker 1>you'd call a barrel roller, someone who went against the federation,

490
00:24:31.079 --> 00:24:33.559
<v Speaker 1>dealt in the black market. And like I said, he

491
00:24:33.559 --> 00:24:37.960
<v Speaker 1>had actually been previously charged with Oh sorry, I said

492
00:24:38.000 --> 00:24:41.119
<v Speaker 1>earlier one point three million. It's one point eight million.

493
00:24:41.480 --> 00:24:44.519
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, So he's done this before his experience.

494
00:24:44.960 --> 00:24:47.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, but clearly that didn't stop him because he's

495
00:24:47.680 --> 00:24:48.160
<v Speaker 1>doing it again.

496
00:24:48.599 --> 00:24:49.640
<v Speaker 2>Well he got away with it.

497
00:24:49.880 --> 00:24:54.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So he would buy from producers and sell to

498
00:24:54.960 --> 00:24:58.319
<v Speaker 1>whoever he could. And the problem was when people were buying,

499
00:24:58.359 --> 00:25:00.759
<v Speaker 1>there's no way of really knowing where the serp came from.

500
00:25:01.640 --> 00:25:04.359
<v Speaker 1>So even though someone's buying stolen maple syrup, there's no

501
00:25:04.440 --> 00:25:06.720
<v Speaker 1>way of knowing it's stolen maple syrup. You basically have

502
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:10.279
<v Speaker 1>to trust the person you're purchasing from. Some people, I'm

503
00:25:10.319 --> 00:25:15.319
<v Speaker 1>sure do know they're buying black market syrup. Others don't. Okay, interesting, yeah,

504
00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>because there's like, you can't serial stamp a freaking maple syrup.

505
00:25:20.400 --> 00:25:21.759
<v Speaker 1>The only way you know where it's coming from is

506
00:25:21.759 --> 00:25:25.680
<v Speaker 1>once it's in a container that sealed and says.

507
00:25:25.400 --> 00:25:25.880
<v Speaker 2>This on it.

508
00:25:25.920 --> 00:25:29.119
<v Speaker 1>And it's like these barrels, there's like a label on it.

509
00:25:29.279 --> 00:25:31.799
<v Speaker 1>You slap another label over top, you label off whatever.

510
00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:37.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, So people were buying the black market stuff not knowing. Yes, okay.

511
00:25:38.119 --> 00:25:39.880
<v Speaker 1>One thing that I got to give them credit for, though,

512
00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:44.119
<v Speaker 1>I fucking love this. So they use cell phones during

513
00:25:44.119 --> 00:25:48.799
<v Speaker 1>the whole operation, and you know, burner phone sort of thing, right, Okay,

514
00:25:49.680 --> 00:25:52.079
<v Speaker 1>And they had alias names that they ran by on

515
00:25:52.119 --> 00:25:56.839
<v Speaker 1>these cell phones, and those alias names were themed. First

516
00:25:56.839 --> 00:26:00.240
<v Speaker 1>of all, you're coordinated, you're themed. Love it. Second of all,

517
00:26:00.599 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 1>they were Star Wars themed. We're talking Luke Skywalker, We're

518
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:06.440
<v Speaker 1>talking Lea Hans Solo.

519
00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:07.759
<v Speaker 2>You will love that.

520
00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:09.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I just want to say if I were to

521
00:26:09.480 --> 00:26:11.880
<v Speaker 1>ever commit a heist, I want to do that straight up.

522
00:26:11.920 --> 00:26:12.720
<v Speaker 1>That's just badass.

523
00:26:13.160 --> 00:26:15.440
<v Speaker 2>So if anyone ever hears anything about like something like

524
00:26:15.519 --> 00:26:17.240
<v Speaker 2>that in the news, they're going to know what's been Yeah,

525
00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:19.440
<v Speaker 2>that was me, proudly.

526
00:26:21.160 --> 00:26:24.880
<v Speaker 1>So the Rebel Alliance, which Star Wars reference, and it

527
00:26:24.920 --> 00:26:27.240
<v Speaker 1>totally fits what they're doing, just so I'm calling them

528
00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:28.559
<v Speaker 1>the Rebel Alliance from here and out.

529
00:26:28.759 --> 00:26:29.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, like, do you made that up?

530
00:26:29.960 --> 00:26:30.559
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, that's me.

531
00:26:30.680 --> 00:26:31.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh good job.

532
00:26:31.720 --> 00:26:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, the Rebel Alliance and Star Wars.

533
00:26:33.640 --> 00:26:35.920
<v Speaker 2>I know, I thought it would just made sense, So

534
00:26:35.960 --> 00:26:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought it was just part of.

535
00:26:36.960 --> 00:26:39.160
<v Speaker 1>The story about I put that in there because it

536
00:26:39.240 --> 00:26:41.920
<v Speaker 1>just fits so well. So they grew more and more

537
00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:45.400
<v Speaker 1>nervous actually with that annual inventory check coming up, because

538
00:26:45.440 --> 00:26:48.720
<v Speaker 1>they knew there was a high chance, high possibility that

539
00:26:48.759 --> 00:26:51.000
<v Speaker 1>these empty barrels or barrels full of water were going

540
00:26:51.039 --> 00:26:54.119
<v Speaker 1>to be discovered. So they actually did things like even

541
00:26:54.160 --> 00:26:55.839
<v Speaker 1>mess with the lights to try and get it, like

542
00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:59.799
<v Speaker 1>dimmer in there to try and you know, get there

543
00:27:00.119 --> 00:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>the scheme to kind of go under the radar. So

544
00:27:02.920 --> 00:27:04.759
<v Speaker 1>they did a lot of stuff to try and help

545
00:27:04.799 --> 00:27:07.559
<v Speaker 1>in the favor. But clearly we know how that played out,

546
00:27:07.240 --> 00:27:09.519
<v Speaker 1>it didn't go in their favor. They were discovered.

547
00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:12.839
<v Speaker 2>Well I think they got almost too grady, really.

548
00:27:13.640 --> 00:27:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think so, because I mean we're talking a

549
00:27:15.759 --> 00:27:16.640
<v Speaker 1>lot of money here.

550
00:27:16.839 --> 00:27:20.680
<v Speaker 2>They just stopped at like five million or whatever. They

551
00:27:20.720 --> 00:27:22.200
<v Speaker 2>really need eighteen million.

552
00:27:22.680 --> 00:27:27.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's you got a point. I would probably stop

553
00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:29.839
<v Speaker 1>at like five barrels.

554
00:27:30.039 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you're like, I'm good retirement and that's a lot

555
00:27:33.079 --> 00:27:34.119
<v Speaker 2>of a lot of labor.

556
00:27:34.279 --> 00:27:36.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be moving all these barrels.

557
00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:38.039
<v Speaker 2>Well yeah, that's freaking heavy.

558
00:27:38.640 --> 00:27:42.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So there were other indicators though, other than just

559
00:27:42.319 --> 00:27:45.880
<v Speaker 1>that empty barrel that like toppled over. Okay, so the

560
00:27:45.920 --> 00:27:49.319
<v Speaker 1>indicators that helped them identify all these empty barrels in

561
00:27:49.519 --> 00:27:54.079
<v Speaker 1>the sea of fucking maple syrup. One of them was rust,

562
00:27:54.240 --> 00:27:56.880
<v Speaker 1>because we're talking water in these barrels.

563
00:27:57.319 --> 00:27:59.920
<v Speaker 2>The barrels began to rust, and they wouldn't have rust.

564
00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:06.039
<v Speaker 2>Stood with syrup, they wouldn't have No. Oh, that's really interesting. Yeah.

565
00:28:06.119 --> 00:28:12.079
<v Speaker 1>Another one was marks on the barrels from forklifts. Because

566
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.480
<v Speaker 1>of Warehouse when they were operating, they had actual specific

567
00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:18.880
<v Speaker 1>attachments on their forklifts rather than just standard forks on

568
00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.039
<v Speaker 1>the bottom, and they were designed to grab two barrels

569
00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:24.119
<v Speaker 1>at a time without damaging the barrels.

570
00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:26.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, but these people didn't have that.

571
00:28:26.880 --> 00:28:30.839
<v Speaker 1>These people rented forklifts and just used regular forks, and

572
00:28:30.880 --> 00:28:34.440
<v Speaker 1>those forks can scratch, dentt do a lot of damage.

573
00:28:34.519 --> 00:28:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

574
00:28:35.200 --> 00:28:39.440
<v Speaker 1>So when they're looking for to identify which barrels were

575
00:28:39.480 --> 00:28:42.079
<v Speaker 1>filled with maple syrup and not, it was pretty easy

576
00:28:42.119 --> 00:28:43.680
<v Speaker 1>to say, well, that one's got rust on it. Let's

577
00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:47.759
<v Speaker 1>check it. Yeah, water, okay, let's check the one beside it. Okay,

578
00:28:47.759 --> 00:28:50.079
<v Speaker 1>that one's also water. Even if there's not rust, it's like,

579
00:28:50.119 --> 00:28:52.519
<v Speaker 1>now we are looking in this spot. Oh, there's dents

580
00:28:52.519 --> 00:28:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and scratches over here. Let's check these ones.

581
00:28:54.960 --> 00:28:57.039
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of signs. Actually, really, it is.

582
00:28:59.599 --> 00:29:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Another sign that they completely missed, which just dumb, absolutely dumb.

583
00:29:06.200 --> 00:29:08.680
<v Speaker 1>Was a little later on when they're doing their investigation,

584
00:29:08.880 --> 00:29:11.359
<v Speaker 1>some of the maple syrup barrels that were sold to

585
00:29:11.440 --> 00:29:15.240
<v Speaker 1>people on the black market or whatever had like labels

586
00:29:15.279 --> 00:29:17.720
<v Speaker 1>with the head of the whole thing, like his name

587
00:29:17.759 --> 00:29:18.000
<v Speaker 1>on it.

588
00:29:19.279 --> 00:29:21.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Really, they were even able.

589
00:29:21.440 --> 00:29:24.079
<v Speaker 1>To track down where the rental forklist was from from,

590
00:29:24.119 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 1>like arrest warrants and there's like receipts and shit for

591
00:29:26.599 --> 00:29:29.960
<v Speaker 1>these rental fork lists. They were not careful at all.

592
00:29:30.039 --> 00:29:32.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they almost like seem like they were like cocky

593
00:29:32.400 --> 00:29:34.000
<v Speaker 2>or something like I'm not gonna get caught.

594
00:29:34.119 --> 00:29:38.319
<v Speaker 1>I think they were just dumb. I think like, yeah,

595
00:29:38.319 --> 00:29:39.599
<v Speaker 1>they're just like sloped.

596
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:42.400
<v Speaker 2>That's like really dumb though, yeah it is.

597
00:29:42.480 --> 00:29:45.680
<v Speaker 1>It's really like it's just so janky. They just never

598
00:29:45.839 --> 00:29:47.799
<v Speaker 1>thought into the like we're gonna steal some shit, We're

599
00:29:47.799 --> 00:29:49.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna get people just gonna pay them, and there'll be

600
00:29:49.880 --> 00:29:51.839
<v Speaker 1>so many people involved. No one's gonna talk.

601
00:29:52.279 --> 00:29:54.640
<v Speaker 2>People talked to get that much money, though. I feel

602
00:29:54.680 --> 00:29:56.799
<v Speaker 2>like you would have had to kind of like have

603
00:29:56.839 --> 00:29:58.799
<v Speaker 2>some serious brains behind this operation.

604
00:29:59.000 --> 00:30:02.680
<v Speaker 1>But no, I think it's I think it's just serious balls.

605
00:30:03.839 --> 00:30:07.279
<v Speaker 1>He's got the hood spot to pull it off, yeah,

606
00:30:07.279 --> 00:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>but he does not have brains to do anything about it. Yeah. So,

607
00:30:11.799 --> 00:30:14.880
<v Speaker 1>like I said that, people did talk, nerves actually began

608
00:30:15.440 --> 00:30:18.480
<v Speaker 1>to get to people because the investigations starting now right,

609
00:30:18.559 --> 00:30:21.839
<v Speaker 1>they found missing barrels or so, they found barrels emptied

610
00:30:21.880 --> 00:30:25.480
<v Speaker 1>with maple syrup and water like shit's going down, So

611
00:30:26.039 --> 00:30:29.519
<v Speaker 1>they actually began to like threats going back and forth,

612
00:30:29.960 --> 00:30:33.599
<v Speaker 1>and some people even having ties to a parent real

613
00:30:33.920 --> 00:30:38.000
<v Speaker 1>cartel and stuff like real mafia getting involved, like if

614
00:30:38.000 --> 00:30:40.000
<v Speaker 1>you talk to police, will shoot you in the head,

615
00:30:40.039 --> 00:30:42.599
<v Speaker 1>like some serious fo allegations.

616
00:30:43.160 --> 00:30:44.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's some scary shit.

617
00:30:44.880 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 1>But we're talking a lot of people involved, Like not

618
00:30:46.799 --> 00:30:47.720
<v Speaker 1>everyone kept quiet.

619
00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

620
00:30:48.759 --> 00:30:51.720
<v Speaker 1>So all in all, about three hundred people were questioned,

621
00:30:52.160 --> 00:30:56.000
<v Speaker 1>forty search warrants were executed, and the case basically worked

622
00:30:56.039 --> 00:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>in a textbook way. You know, chase down a lead,

623
00:30:59.000 --> 00:31:03.359
<v Speaker 1>question the witness, identify the ring leader, and boom close.

624
00:31:03.400 --> 00:31:04.559
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty much how it went.

625
00:31:04.720 --> 00:31:06.480
<v Speaker 2>It probably wasn't even that hard to get to that

626
00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>ring leader really.

627
00:31:08.200 --> 00:31:10.799
<v Speaker 1>No, it wasn't, like I said, his name was on fucking.

628
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:12.880
<v Speaker 2>Bars, actually yeah, and he's.

629
00:31:12.759 --> 00:31:16.240
<v Speaker 1>Already got a past like it. It was like, I

630
00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:18.079
<v Speaker 1>don't even need to talk evidence here because it was

631
00:31:18.119 --> 00:31:23.599
<v Speaker 1>just so fucking easy. So what happened here from from

632
00:31:23.680 --> 00:31:26.319
<v Speaker 1>those individuals that were caught, I've got a list here

633
00:31:26.359 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 1>of people who were charged, but from what they arrested

634
00:31:29.960 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>was a total of twenty six individuals, and there was

635
00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:37.039
<v Speaker 1>probably more, oh there was more involved, but that the

636
00:31:37.200 --> 00:31:39.119
<v Speaker 1>arrests involved twenty six people.

637
00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:40.240
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of people.

638
00:31:40.680 --> 00:31:43.880
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, definitely, Like you're talking.

639
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Not even getting a million bucks at this point, Like,

640
00:31:45.799 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 2>what the shit's the point.

641
00:31:47.880 --> 00:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty sure they were getting like, oh, maybe probably

642
00:31:51.240 --> 00:31:51.680
<v Speaker 1>getting paid.

643
00:31:51.880 --> 00:31:55.440
<v Speaker 2>There was tears. Probably they weren't getting splitting it evenly

644
00:31:55.519 --> 00:31:55.920
<v Speaker 2>or whatever.

645
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sure they weren't splitting it evenly. I'm sure

646
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<v Speaker 1>it's a matter of like we'll give you ten grand

647
00:32:00.880 --> 00:32:03.799
<v Speaker 1>to do this, will give you five grand to do this,

648
00:32:04.319 --> 00:32:07.319
<v Speaker 1>and for workers, will give you five hundred bucks a

649
00:32:07.440 --> 00:32:09.359
<v Speaker 1>night like that sort of stuff.

650
00:32:09.440 --> 00:32:09.759
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, now, thankfully, and this is this is gonna be

652
00:32:14.480 --> 00:32:17.319
<v Speaker 1>good news, good news to any Canadian out there listening. Thankfully,

653
00:32:17.400 --> 00:32:21.240
<v Speaker 1>two thirds of the stolen goods were actually recovered.

654
00:32:21.440 --> 00:32:23.079
<v Speaker 2>Holy that's a lot.

655
00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes. However, the other third were unfortunately absorbed into the

656
00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:31.799
<v Speaker 1>world's pancakes supply on everyone's breakfast plates. So I actually

657
00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:32.279
<v Speaker 1>wrote that.

658
00:32:32.279 --> 00:32:34.759
<v Speaker 2>In my notes to say that look at that.

659
00:32:36.119 --> 00:32:38.279
<v Speaker 1>But that did come at a cost, because we're talking

660
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<v Speaker 1>that some people who did purchase these legitimately thinking it

661
00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:44.400
<v Speaker 1>was legitimate maple syrup that they can you know, put

662
00:32:44.440 --> 00:32:47.720
<v Speaker 1>into their supply and get out there. Yeah, basically FBI

663
00:32:47.799 --> 00:32:50.720
<v Speaker 1>is kicking in their door and stealing like a million

664
00:32:50.759 --> 00:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>dollars worth of maple syrup that they have almost putting

665
00:32:53.279 --> 00:32:54.680
<v Speaker 1>their business like under.

666
00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:56.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, I hope that they would like compensate them.

667
00:32:56.920 --> 00:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>No, it's stolen goods.

668
00:32:58.559 --> 00:33:02.720
<v Speaker 2>What the shit though? Oh that doesn't seem fair because

669
00:33:02.720 --> 00:33:05.000
<v Speaker 2>then what is going on? Like, Okay, they take back

670
00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the maple syrup, what are they going to do with

671
00:33:06.480 --> 00:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>that though? Did they later sell it? That's bullshit if

672
00:33:10.160 --> 00:33:10.759
<v Speaker 2>that's the case.

673
00:33:10.880 --> 00:33:17.119
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably, Wow, it's there, it's rightfully theirs. It's stolen property, right.

674
00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:19.519
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have issues with that, But that's

675
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<v Speaker 2>another story. You know.

676
00:33:20.519 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to skip ahead a little bit to kind

677
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<v Speaker 1>of give talk about what you're on already.

678
00:33:24.240 --> 00:33:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Here.

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00:33:24.799 --> 00:33:27.440
<v Speaker 1>There is one party that actually never did get charged,

680
00:33:28.480 --> 00:33:35.200
<v Speaker 1>the Federation itself. There are rumors that it itself was involved.

681
00:33:35.759 --> 00:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Their reserves were too great and to simply just release

682
00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.039
<v Speaker 1>extra maple syrup out into the world would you know,

683
00:33:43.440 --> 00:33:49.079
<v Speaker 1>decrease demand and increased supply, thus dropping the price. So

684
00:33:49.119 --> 00:33:50.759
<v Speaker 1>they didn't want to do that. But they just got

685
00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.279
<v Speaker 1>all this giant stock and maple syrup just sitting there.

686
00:33:54.160 --> 00:33:57.440
<v Speaker 1>So they're thinking that maybe they were trying to look

687
00:33:57.440 --> 00:33:59.759
<v Speaker 1>at a way of getting rid of this overflow stock

688
00:34:00.480 --> 00:34:02.480
<v Speaker 1>and collect some insurance money on top of it.

689
00:34:02.720 --> 00:34:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Oh, interesting.

690
00:34:04.200 --> 00:34:07.119
<v Speaker 1>So there's this big like thing going around where people

691
00:34:07.160 --> 00:34:09.119
<v Speaker 1>are talking about maybe this was actually a thing that

692
00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>the Federation did try and pull off.

693
00:34:11.840 --> 00:34:14.840
<v Speaker 2>Hmmm. I don't know what the shelf life of maple

694
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<v Speaker 2>syrup is.

695
00:34:15.800 --> 00:34:18.199
<v Speaker 1>It's it's pretty long, is it. I'm not too sure

696
00:34:18.239 --> 00:34:21.079
<v Speaker 1>what it is exactly. Well, I know it's like because

697
00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:23.559
<v Speaker 1>the sugar content's so high, right right, it basically like

698
00:34:23.920 --> 00:34:26.599
<v Speaker 1>most bacteria just can't survive in it, Like honey doesn't

699
00:34:26.639 --> 00:34:29.079
<v Speaker 1>have a shelf life because of the sugar content, and

700
00:34:29.119 --> 00:34:31.519
<v Speaker 1>I know that it's similar with maple syrup. But I

701
00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:32.960
<v Speaker 1>know it does have a shelf life.

702
00:34:33.280 --> 00:34:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Huh. So very interesting. I wouldn't actually that's I wouldn't

703
00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:38.760
<v Speaker 2>put it past them that they.

704
00:34:38.679 --> 00:34:41.639
<v Speaker 1>Were involved, well, especially considering by the sounds of what

705
00:34:41.679 --> 00:34:47.199
<v Speaker 1>they've done previously, like just overthrowing everyone warning this whole thing.

706
00:34:47.639 --> 00:34:49.239
<v Speaker 2>They sound like shady characters.

707
00:34:49.480 --> 00:34:52.239
<v Speaker 1>And this is a way of ensuring that you get

708
00:34:52.239 --> 00:34:54.639
<v Speaker 1>some of these people in this black market cartel for

709
00:34:54.719 --> 00:34:58.119
<v Speaker 1>maple syrup arrested as well, and off your back and

710
00:34:58.159 --> 00:35:00.440
<v Speaker 1>selling maple syrup where you could be taking it and

711
00:35:00.480 --> 00:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>selling it.

712
00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so you're.

713
00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Kind of getting an insurance money. You're also getting rid

714
00:35:05.960 --> 00:35:10.360
<v Speaker 1>of these basically people who are working against you. Yeah,

715
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:12.840
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a win win if they were.

716
00:35:12.679 --> 00:35:15.519
<v Speaker 2>Involved, Yeah, but no one knows.

717
00:35:15.840 --> 00:35:19.440
<v Speaker 1>No one knows officially or for sure. So to wrap

718
00:35:19.480 --> 00:35:21.880
<v Speaker 1>this all up, we do have the individuals who were

719
00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:28.239
<v Speaker 1>charged in the case. Richard Valierez, who was the accused ringleader,

720
00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:31.679
<v Speaker 1>was sentenced in April twenty seventeen to eight years in

721
00:35:31.760 --> 00:35:37.920
<v Speaker 1>prison plus a nine point million dollar fine with an

722
00:35:37.920 --> 00:35:41.039
<v Speaker 1>extension to fourteen years in prison if the fine is

723
00:35:41.079 --> 00:35:41.559
<v Speaker 1>not paid.

724
00:35:42.119 --> 00:35:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Holy Okay, that's actually crazy though. Fourteen years nine million

725
00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:50.800
<v Speaker 2>dollars like that just seems on a scale not balanced.

726
00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:54.039
<v Speaker 2>But did he have that kind of money? No?

727
00:35:54.360 --> 00:35:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh maybe if he got away with his.

728
00:35:56.960 --> 00:35:59.280
<v Speaker 2>Whole heist, Yeah, then he would have for sure.

729
00:36:00.719 --> 00:36:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Also, Raymond Valierez, Richard's father, was convicted of possession.

730
00:36:06.599 --> 00:36:09.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh you got his pops involved. Eh.

731
00:36:09.159 --> 00:36:11.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm not too sure what that possession was. Maybe

732
00:36:11.840 --> 00:36:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's just possession of drugs. I don't fucking know, But

733
00:36:14.079 --> 00:36:18.039
<v Speaker 1>clearly there was a warrant out for being able to

734
00:36:18.039 --> 00:36:19.960
<v Speaker 1>search their property. They found something. Whether it was the

735
00:36:20.000 --> 00:36:24.079
<v Speaker 1>maple syrup or fucking cocaine, Apparently either one is enough

736
00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>to be convicted at this point Etienne Saint Pierre. He

737
00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 1>was a New Brunswick based syrup reseller, so clearly he's

738
00:36:35.079 --> 00:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>buying and such, right, A Vic? Carry on? A Karen Vic. Karen,

739
00:36:39.920 --> 00:36:42.719
<v Speaker 1>like I said, the I don't know how to say

740
00:36:42.760 --> 00:36:44.800
<v Speaker 1>these names. He's the one I was talking about earlier

741
00:36:44.800 --> 00:36:46.000
<v Speaker 1>whose wife owned the property.

742
00:36:46.199 --> 00:36:49.519
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, was the wife involved too, not as far

743
00:36:49.519 --> 00:36:55.360
<v Speaker 2>as I know, interesting, Okay, the so he was that.

744
00:36:55.159 --> 00:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>The insider whose wife was involved, and he was sentenced

745
00:36:57.360 --> 00:36:59.960
<v Speaker 1>to five years in prison plus a one point two

746
00:37:00.119 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>million dollar fine.

747
00:37:01.320 --> 00:37:01.519
<v Speaker 2>Woo.

748
00:37:02.320 --> 00:37:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And Sebastian Jutrus, who was a trucker involved in the

749
00:37:06.440 --> 00:37:10.440
<v Speaker 1>transport of the syrup he served eight months in prison.

750
00:37:11.280 --> 00:37:15.199
<v Speaker 2>Not really that long of sentences, not really, but I

751
00:37:15.239 --> 00:37:17.400
<v Speaker 2>mean it's not like murder or anything was involved.

752
00:37:17.679 --> 00:37:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's like I don't know, Yeah, it's money. Yeah,

753
00:37:22.360 --> 00:37:26.159
<v Speaker 1>you're doing some bad shit. But yeah, no one's dead.

754
00:37:26.000 --> 00:37:29.079
<v Speaker 2>Or hurt, which is good, which is good.

755
00:37:29.000 --> 00:37:31.960
<v Speaker 1>But like I said, it does cut deep for the

756
00:37:32.000 --> 00:37:32.760
<v Speaker 1>Canadian nation.

757
00:37:33.719 --> 00:37:36.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I'm you probably said this story when when did

758
00:37:36.480 --> 00:37:37.639
<v Speaker 2>this happen? What years?

759
00:37:37.679 --> 00:37:40.440
<v Speaker 1>That was between twenty eleven and twenty twelve, so.

760
00:37:40.400 --> 00:37:43.519
<v Speaker 2>Not very long. Curiously, not that long ago? Was this

761
00:37:43.559 --> 00:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>shit not all over the news? Where was I living

762
00:37:46.000 --> 00:37:46.599
<v Speaker 2>under a rock?

763
00:37:46.719 --> 00:37:49.119
<v Speaker 1>Apparently? I don't remember this being on the news. I

764
00:37:49.159 --> 00:37:50.639
<v Speaker 1>only heard of this case a few years ago.

765
00:37:50.840 --> 00:37:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think, what the hell was I doing then?

766
00:37:54.239 --> 00:37:58.239
<v Speaker 2>I would have been Oh, I would have been in school.

767
00:37:59.119 --> 00:38:01.840
<v Speaker 2>I probably didn't give a shit about anything except my degree.

768
00:38:02.199 --> 00:38:06.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, probably. Huh wait, twenty twelve. I'm trying to think now,

769
00:38:08.840 --> 00:38:10.559
<v Speaker 1>m Yeah, I don't.

770
00:38:10.400 --> 00:38:14.000
<v Speaker 2>Know, because, yeah, that's really not that long ago, really

771
00:38:14.559 --> 00:38:15.079
<v Speaker 2>not at all.

772
00:38:15.880 --> 00:38:18.360
<v Speaker 1>But that's the great Canadian maple syrup.

773
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.559
<v Speaker 2>W Yeah, it wasn't that interesting, right?

774
00:38:21.119 --> 00:38:23.199
<v Speaker 1>I wanted to get a little bit off that murderous track,

775
00:38:23.239 --> 00:38:25.800
<v Speaker 1>even though this is very skeevy and like I said,

776
00:38:25.920 --> 00:38:29.400
<v Speaker 1>just fucking horrendous for our nation, a little bit more

777
00:38:29.480 --> 00:38:32.360
<v Speaker 1>lighthearted than what we were doing. Yep. And then my

778
00:38:32.440 --> 00:38:35.239
<v Speaker 1>next episode, let's go right into some fucking gruesome shit.

779
00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:37.159
<v Speaker 2>I know. I'm like, what can I do to them

780
00:38:37.199 --> 00:38:39.320
<v Speaker 2>next time? I'm like thinking, in my head, here.

781
00:38:39.480 --> 00:38:42.800
<v Speaker 1>See how we can just make this just derail every time,

782
00:38:42.960 --> 00:38:45.840
<v Speaker 1>just this roller coaster of what the fuck is happening?

783
00:38:46.559 --> 00:38:48.719
<v Speaker 2>I was actually searching today what I'm gonna do.

784
00:38:48.760 --> 00:38:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Next time, and do you know what you're gonna do.

785
00:38:50.719 --> 00:38:52.639
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I have a few ideas because I

786
00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:55.320
<v Speaker 2>said I would do a non Canadian one, right, yep,

787
00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:58.719
<v Speaker 2>So I have a couple ideas. I was even like, man,

788
00:38:58.760 --> 00:39:01.159
<v Speaker 2>maybe I should just fuck them right up and do

789
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:04.079
<v Speaker 2>non Canadian and like an unsolved one. But I might

790
00:39:04.079 --> 00:39:06.480
<v Speaker 2>not go that far. I might not go that far.

791
00:39:06.920 --> 00:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I think for my next one, I might actually see

792
00:39:08.719 --> 00:39:11.559
<v Speaker 1>if I can pull off from our suggested list from

793
00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:12.320
<v Speaker 1>our listeners.

794
00:39:12.599 --> 00:39:14.800
<v Speaker 2>There is one on that suggested list I really want

795
00:39:14.840 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>to do.

796
00:39:15.519 --> 00:39:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's the same one.

797
00:39:16.519 --> 00:39:17.920
<v Speaker 2>It might be the same one.

798
00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:20.840
<v Speaker 1>Well we'll find out find out, yeah, yeah, when we

799
00:39:20.880 --> 00:39:22.639
<v Speaker 1>get to that. But next time it's going to be you.

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00:39:23.119 --> 00:39:25.599
<v Speaker 1>So until we can hear your next episode, make sure

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00:39:25.599 --> 00:39:27.199
<v Speaker 1>you guys stay wicked.