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<v Speaker 1>All right, So once again technology has failed me in

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<v Speaker 1>the same basement that I was in for Boggonia. So

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<v Speaker 1>that has forced me to forego the usual introduction to

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<v Speaker 1>instead read you a partial listing of the credits for

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<v Speaker 1>this movie, which is Hamnet Hamnet, written by Maggie O'Farrell

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<v Speaker 1>and Chloe Show, directed by Chloe Joao, starring Jesse Buckley,

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<v Speaker 1>Paul Mescow, Emily Watson, Joel Alwey, and Jacoby Juke. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Ronald Young Junior, and I'm leaving the theater. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Ronald and I am leaving the theater after

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<v Speaker 1>seeing Hamnet Hamnet. This is the part where I would

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<v Speaker 1>say what who was it the movie? So I had

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<v Speaker 1>to probably say that all at the top of the episode,

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<v Speaker 1>but normally I would say all that right now. So

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<v Speaker 1>normally at this point I say, I say, for complete

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<v Speaker 1>cast listing, you can go to the link in our

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<v Speaker 1>show notes. And then I say, I'm not here alone.

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<v Speaker 1>I am here with Daryl see Murphy, Darryl C.

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<v Speaker 2>Murphy Stone Well, speaking for myself today.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand, I understand Daryl C. Murphy speaking on his

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<v Speaker 1>own behalf not representative of anyone as a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I won't even put that in. I'll take that out completely.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the solo Darryl see Murphy. I'm gonna beleep

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<v Speaker 1>that out. It'll be funny, all right. So Hamnet is

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<v Speaker 1>the story of William Shakespeare and his wife Agnes.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I think that I don't. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>that's I think that's how they said it. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>like I think they were saying it wrong in that day. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>if we say it Agnes, they say it yes, which

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<v Speaker 1>I'm young, all right, So anyway, they it's the story

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<v Speaker 1>of Hamnet and uh and his wife. I'm sorry. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the story William Shakespeare and his wife Agnes or however

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<v Speaker 1>they pronounce it in the movie. And they have children,

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<v Speaker 1>and they have uh twins, specifically Judith and Hamnet, and

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<v Speaker 1>Hamnet dies, and this explores the connection of Shakespeare grieving

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<v Speaker 1>his son and writing the play Hamlet, as the two

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<v Speaker 1>names are interchangeable, and this is something that has been

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<v Speaker 1>discussed in the past through historians. People have written about this,

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<v Speaker 1>and the writer of the book that this is based

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<v Speaker 1>on fictionalized the whole story around it, which has now

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<v Speaker 1>become this film and obviously it's a story about grief,

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<v Speaker 1>but yeah, let's jump right into it. With that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>Darryl see Murphy representing himself. What did you think of Hamnet?

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<v Speaker 3>I thought it was good.

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<v Speaker 2>It's one of these slow build movies, and there was

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<v Speaker 2>a point in the middle where staying awake was a

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<v Speaker 2>bit of a struggle. But I'm glad I stuck it

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<v Speaker 2>through this movie. I think touched on.

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<v Speaker 3>This.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it touched on the moment that we're in

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<v Speaker 2>and I think you especially see it at the end

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<v Speaker 2>where there's a lot of unprocessed grief and trauma collectively,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think this movie did a good job of

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<v Speaker 2>hitting on that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I gotta say the.

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<v Speaker 2>Woman playing Jesse Buckley, Jesse Buckley, did a great job

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<v Speaker 2>because in my mind, it's a story about Anye's and

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<v Speaker 2>some dude who writes plays because like, she really did

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<v Speaker 2>a great job of bringing that character to life. And

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<v Speaker 2>no disrespect to Paul Mescal, Like I said, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a fantastic movie. Everybody did a great job, but you know,

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<v Speaker 2>she really carried that this entire film. But yeah, and

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<v Speaker 2>there were definitely moments in there, especially at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>where it took everything in me to like to keep

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<v Speaker 2>it together, because how could you not break down with

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<v Speaker 2>and you see when you're a part of this collective,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean you, and I mean for me personally,

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<v Speaker 2>I've been thinking a lot about death. Death has been

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<v Speaker 2>you know, circling the wagons. I've lost a friend and families.

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<v Speaker 2>I got family members who've lost people, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just dealing with that, grappling with that, and then also

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about death, what's coming as I get older, thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about my parents, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, all of that is in my mind personally.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course the community, the broader society that

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<v Speaker 2>we're in, you know, and I'm thinking about COVID, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for one, just how we as a collective haven't been

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<v Speaker 2>able to really process what that did to us and

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<v Speaker 2>what that means. And then of course, you know this

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<v Speaker 2>the rampant death that we are just always around. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about Gaza, thinking about Sudan. Just it's a lot

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<v Speaker 2>that we are carrying on the day to day. And

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a movie like this really gives folks

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<v Speaker 2>a chance to, I guess, let it out a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I might cry when I get home, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I mean it was definitely uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely moving and cathartic in that way. That's that's that's

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<v Speaker 2>my initial take after seeing it.

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely agree with you. I was crying. I was

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<v Speaker 1>over there. I was. It was one that he gonna

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<v Speaker 1>cry in the car. He was crying in the movie theater.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a game. I a great job. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I had my hands up on my face. No, I was.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's the thing, you know, It's funny because the

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<v Speaker 1>last time I felt like I cried like this was

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight years later, and it was the same thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was a mother and a son. Mother had cancer,

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<v Speaker 1>and like my mother died of cancer. And I've obviously

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<v Speaker 1>been more in touch with my grief now, well people

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<v Speaker 1>say more in touch with by emotions, but more equated

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<v Speaker 1>with grief now more than I've ever been. And so

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<v Speaker 1>for me, like, I think, one thing that that sticks

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<v Speaker 1>out to me is that for anyone who knows grief,

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch this movie, what this film does is

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<v Speaker 1>does a very good job of talking about some of

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<v Speaker 1>the unspoken language of grief that you only understand if

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<v Speaker 1>you've become acquainted with it, meaning that if you have

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<v Speaker 1>not suffered the loss. If you have not suffered grief,

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<v Speaker 1>you might be able to sympathize with what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>on the screen. But there's a deeper understanding that I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of felt, especially towards the end when we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>watching Hamlet, that dev really just gets you right in

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<v Speaker 1>the chest where I'm like, oh, I get it, and

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<v Speaker 1>I know this because there was words I did not

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<v Speaker 1>understand what they were saying, but I knew exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>was happening. I knew exactly what William Shakespeare's I do

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<v Speaker 1>in Paul Meskal's William Shakespeare was doing. I knew exactly

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<v Speaker 1>what that was. I knew exactly what Anya's agnes. I

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<v Speaker 1>knew exactly what she was feeling. And there's a scene

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<v Speaker 1>in there where the audience reacts in a very specific

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<v Speaker 1>way that really at that point I'm like, well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna let them fall now, because there were several

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<v Speaker 1>times in a movie where there's something overtly sad happening,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was the processing of the grief that really

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<v Speaker 1>then like just drives the hammer right on home. And

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right. I always and I was struggling with

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<v Speaker 1>my rating on this movie, which we'll get to in

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<v Speaker 1>a second. But I was struggling with my rating on

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<v Speaker 1>this movie because I'm not a big fan of Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>performance driven movies. This is a performance driven movie. The

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<v Speaker 1>plot is not heavy. It is about the performances in

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<v Speaker 1>this film. There's something that happens. There's beginning, middle, and

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<v Speaker 1>an end, of course, but this is performance driven. But

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<v Speaker 1>my god, the performances Jesse Buckley to me is in

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<v Speaker 1>the first place, the second one is Hamnet, and somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>third or fourth is Paul Mezkyle. He did a great job,

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, Unfortunately he was with the champs in

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<v Speaker 1>this one. Talk to me about performances.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, like I said, Jesse Buckley killed it. Give her everything,

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<v Speaker 2>give her everything. Wonderful job. And yes, the children were great.

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<v Speaker 2>Ham Knit's character, a Hamnitz actor was great. I mean, yet,

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<v Speaker 2>not to take nothing away from Paul mescal because I

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<v Speaker 2>think the moment that I'm thinking about right two moments.

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<v Speaker 1>Actually, I think I know.

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<v Speaker 2>One of them is the one where he stood up

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<v Speaker 2>to his father, yes, and the other one is where

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<v Speaker 2>he was struggling and he knew that he had to

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<v Speaker 2>go somewhere. He knew he had to leave and I

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<v Speaker 2>think as a creative I felt that and he I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like he did that way real capturing that frustration

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<v Speaker 2>and not being able to articulate it, just knowing that

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<v Speaker 2>something is moving in you and you have to move

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<v Speaker 2>with it. That was outstanding in my opinion. But everybody

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<v Speaker 2>in this film was top notch, and so yes, give

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<v Speaker 2>our best Actor, Supporting Actor. Everybody should be nominated for

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<v Speaker 2>something because this did the job and it's hard to

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<v Speaker 2>do these type of movies. There's an art to it

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<v Speaker 2>because it's like magic. You're looking over here and then

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<v Speaker 2>in the end you should have been looking the other way.

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<v Speaker 2>They're distracted. They're distracting you because there's little moments that

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<v Speaker 2>there was some moments I got a little bit of

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<v Speaker 2>foreshadowing I was able to pick up on, but building

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<v Speaker 2>the way the movie built up to the end, the

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<v Speaker 2>punch was like, oh my gosh, how did I not

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<v Speaker 2>see this? And so yes, the acting, the screenplayed, that directing,

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<v Speaker 2>everything was fantastic, fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Chloe Jaw amazing. She does a lot of good job

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<v Speaker 1>of portraits, a lot of beautiful shots of the forest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what the cinematographer was here, Whoever, the

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<v Speaker 1>DP was they crushed it in this beautiful to look at,

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<v Speaker 1>especially for them to be in like muddy England countryside.

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<v Speaker 1>They really made the green so vibrant that it stood

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<v Speaker 1>against the brown, and when they were writing by candlelight,

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<v Speaker 1>still beautiful. There was just a lot that really worked there.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about one negative part of Paul

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<v Speaker 1>Mezcal that I don't believe was his fault, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was, and I think you'll I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you'll agree, but there's a scene in which he

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<v Speaker 1>actually says the famous lines to be or not to

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<v Speaker 1>that moment, I'll tell you why, because as he's doing

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<v Speaker 1>something in that moment, and I knew what the screen

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<v Speaker 1>was invoking in that moment, and for me to utter

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<v Speaker 1>the lines at that moment felt a little bit cheap.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have liked to have seen it cut in

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<v Speaker 1>from the scene before where someone was saying the lines,

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<v Speaker 1>and then cutting in with him doing what he was

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<v Speaker 1>doing at the moment, rather than him saying it out loud,

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<v Speaker 1>because that scene where he sneaked taking the lines from

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<v Speaker 1>the guy and telling them how to say them. Because

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<v Speaker 1>he's also grieving and emotional about his son. That to

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<v Speaker 1>me was like, Okay, we get the point there, But

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<v Speaker 1>then for him to actually say it to no one

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<v Speaker 1>in particular at that moment, I'm just like, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the nose for me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know another thing, and I see your

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<v Speaker 2>vision and I'm with you. I think that would have

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<v Speaker 2>been super powerful. But another point I want to make

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<v Speaker 2>before I forget it is that while we're sitting here

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<v Speaker 2>talking about crying and the sadness and mourning and death,

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<v Speaker 2>this is also a really happy movie.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this is a movie about two people who love

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<v Speaker 3>each other.

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<v Speaker 2>And who have a beautiful family, and who manage to

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<v Speaker 2>and who managed to stay in community or do some

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<v Speaker 2>sort of reconciling with family members who they don't get

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<v Speaker 2>along with. Yes, and and you're watching, You're watching, in

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<v Speaker 2>my opinion, the best example of what a family is.

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<v Speaker 2>It's they were communicating and and there was space. There

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<v Speaker 2>was an understanding. And there was one part that I

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<v Speaker 2>really love as well, is when I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>say too much, but there was a reveal to Anya's

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<v Speaker 2>and she began to understand something, and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Thought that was really beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>The question of why would somebody be here, and then

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<v Speaker 2>which is beautiful? So yes, so there's grief, there's sadness.

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<v Speaker 2>You will most likely shed some tears, but understand that

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<v Speaker 2>you're looking at something really beautiful and happy, and at

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely agree. I think joy is the right word

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<v Speaker 1>to use. Okay, so here on leaving the theater. We

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<v Speaker 1>rate movies out of five stars. You can use decimal points.

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<v Speaker 1>That's fine, just for some guidance. One is obviously terrible.

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<v Speaker 1>Too is I really didn't like it. Three is it's good,

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<v Speaker 1>It's all right, I would watch it again. Four is

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<v Speaker 1>this is a great movie. A lot of the Oscars

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<v Speaker 1>movies and all that typically live around the four range.

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<v Speaker 1>And five is this is perfect, This is great. I

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<v Speaker 1>was satisfied. Oh my god, wonderful. I don't give out

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<v Speaker 1>giving you that guidance so that you don't just so

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<v Speaker 1>you know what's going on. But I think you have

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<v Speaker 1>a good understanding the rating systems. With all that being said,

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<v Speaker 1>out of five stars, what do you give this movie?

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<v Speaker 3>Four point five comes to mind?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I initially thought nine out of ten, four point

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, I'm going to give it four point seventy five. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I was, Yeah, I was. I was in there, man.

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<v Speaker 1>And here's the thing. I'll tell you why. Because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like movies like this. They're boring. They make me

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<v Speaker 1>want to go to sleep. I don't want to see this.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand him. I want the captioning on there.

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<v Speaker 1>But none of that mattered when it reached inside me

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<v Speaker 1>and pulled it out. And the acting was good, the

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<v Speaker 1>make me want to see this movie. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to see this movie. Darryl, I see it, and I

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<v Speaker 1>roped you into this because we were gonna hang out

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<v Speaker 1>today no matter what. This is the reveal I'm giving you.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, you know what, I'm gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>see it. He gonna go see it too. We gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go see it together. And then I sat in the

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<v Speaker 1>chair and I was like, I'm having a great time here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm really enjoying this movie and really having a moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And it solidified by four point seventy five when you

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<v Speaker 1>started talking about how good the movie was, because I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like me and you walked out of this

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<v Speaker 1>having a very good experience, and I just, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like movies like this. I can't speak for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't like movies like this. I know what I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I struggle with movies like this.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't you understand.

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<v Speaker 2>But the payoff, Yes, when the payoff comes, it's worth it.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a similar experience with Past Lives. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>was watching it with my fiance and we were laughing

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<v Speaker 2>all the way through because.

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<v Speaker 3>She's seen it before.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was saying to her, Oh, this is boring,

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<v Speaker 2>this is taken too long. Why are they doing this

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<v Speaker 2>back and forth whatever, right up to the end, and

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<v Speaker 2>then when the end happened, messed me up, man, messed

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<v Speaker 2>me up.

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<v Speaker 3>And I had a similar experience here.

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<v Speaker 2>Except I had the training right, I was ready for it,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I said, Okay, this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>I have to you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I said, I was a little drowsy in the middle,

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<v Speaker 2>but and I think that's just because of the nature

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<v Speaker 2>of the movie. It's it's slow, it's setting you up,

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<v Speaker 2>it's pulling you in. You gotta pay attention. The scenery

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<v Speaker 2>is beautiful everything. But so yes, this this this movie

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<v Speaker 2>was definitely It isn't exercise. It does take a little stamina,

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<v Speaker 2>but in my opinion, the payoff is worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, and not too much. Stamna. It's two hours

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<v Speaker 1>and five minutes, and Oscar movies typically average way longer

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<v Speaker 1>than that, so this is something that you can definitely

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<v Speaker 1>manage worth seeing. It is definitely an Oscar contention. I

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<v Speaker 1>am concerned about some of my favorites that are up

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<v Speaker 1>against this film. I think performance wise, I'm gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>some losses. I think film wise, Centers I think still

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<v Speaker 1>has a chance, but I think performance wise, I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially well Luckily, I don't think any of the women

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<v Speaker 1>from Centers will be up for lead actress. But anybody else,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, Cynthia Rivo, not this year. Not this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Buckley, I've seen Wicked for good. Jesse Buckley acted

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<v Speaker 1>Circles around you. Oh my god. Anyway, with that, Leaving

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