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Luckily, 10 00:00:41.159 --> 00:00:44.880 Panodal extra film coated tablets are boosted by caffeine and 11 00:00:44.920 --> 00:00:47.159 they get to work in as little as ten minutes 12 00:00:47.960 --> 00:00:51.560 for powerful relief. That's more than just paracetamol. That's one 13 00:00:51.640 --> 00:00:56.240 for panadal speed based on absorption data contains paracetamol. Always 14 00:00:56.240 --> 00:00:57.320 read the label or leaflet. 15 00:01:00.560 --> 00:01:04.799 Oh hey, it's your uncle's corduroy jacket that smells like 16 00:01:05.000 --> 00:01:08.920 pipe smoke and breakfast sausage. Ali Ward back with another 17 00:01:08.959 --> 00:01:12.959 episode of ologies. Okay, so this one's special because your 18 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:15.959 ears are about to get a real mouthful about your eyes. 19 00:01:16.239 --> 00:01:20.040 So it's a very multisensory affair, like, hey, ears, will 20 00:01:20.079 --> 00:01:23.480 you pass this highly informative binder paper note to Eyes 21 00:01:23.680 --> 00:01:25.799 and Ears is like ooh, hell yeah, but I'm gonna 22 00:01:25.799 --> 00:01:27.560 read it first and it better not talk shit on me. 23 00:01:27.719 --> 00:01:30.359 And I'm like, okay, Ears, thanks, you're great. One day 24 00:01:30.400 --> 00:01:32.120 we're going to do an episode about you. I promise, 25 00:01:32.280 --> 00:01:34.760 just not this week. Eyes all eyes are on you. 26 00:01:35.200 --> 00:01:38.120 I mean all ears are on you, Okay. I stuff 27 00:01:38.680 --> 00:01:41.599 makes your old pod dad a little squeamish. So my 28 00:01:41.719 --> 00:01:44.840 goal in doing this episode. I did it intentionally because 29 00:01:44.840 --> 00:01:48.280 I was like, ooh, I wanted to get over my 30 00:01:48.359 --> 00:01:52.879 eye squeamishness and stop shoving eyes into a corner. No 31 00:01:52.920 --> 00:01:56.480 one puts eyes in a corner. Eyes, here's looking at you. Okay. 32 00:01:56.480 --> 00:01:59.120 But first a little business, So thank you to all 33 00:01:59.120 --> 00:02:03.480 the Instagram powers. This week little milestone, we crossed ten thousand. 34 00:02:03.920 --> 00:02:07.519 I did a very small private dance in an airport 35 00:02:07.680 --> 00:02:10.639 alone about it and was like, oh, thank you to 36 00:02:10.719 --> 00:02:14.080 all the patrons who support the show and submit questions 37 00:02:14.080 --> 00:02:18.039 for the ologies. At patreon dot com slash ologies. You 38 00:02:18.080 --> 00:02:20.879 can support for as little as a quarter a week 39 00:02:20.919 --> 00:02:24.039 twenty five cents a week. So this is totally independently 40 00:02:24.080 --> 00:02:27.639 published and produced show. It is like I'm literally recording 41 00:02:27.680 --> 00:02:29.960 this in my closet and I recorded on the road 42 00:02:29.960 --> 00:02:32.479 when I'm working. I just love making it. So thank 43 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:35.560 you for making it possible literally by your Patreon support. 44 00:02:35.599 --> 00:02:38.759 So if you want to find other ologites in the wild, 45 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.759 you can pick up ologies shirts and dad hats and 46 00:02:41.879 --> 00:02:47.360 pins and totes and backpacks and such at ologiesmerch dot com. 47 00:02:47.560 --> 00:02:50.199 Also thank you to anyone who rates and reviews and subscribes. 48 00:02:50.479 --> 00:02:52.560 That costs no money, takes a couple of minutes, and 49 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:55.439 it helps keep ologies up here in the charts for 50 00:02:55.520 --> 00:02:59.039 other people to discover. It takes like seconds. Also, I'm 51 00:02:59.080 --> 00:03:02.680 a known lurk. I lurk and when I'm feeling like 52 00:03:02.840 --> 00:03:05.439 so jet lagged that i want to go live in 53 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.919 a hollowed out tree and talk only to squirrels. Your 54 00:03:09.120 --> 00:03:12.360 iTunes reviews roways remind me that there are folks out 55 00:03:12.360 --> 00:03:14.639 there who are listening and cheering me on to keep 56 00:03:14.680 --> 00:03:17.080 making more. And it helps so much. And to prove it, 57 00:03:17.120 --> 00:03:19.879 I read one out loud each week so you know 58 00:03:19.960 --> 00:03:22.439 that I actually look and this week I'm actually going 59 00:03:22.479 --> 00:03:23.719 to shout out. I think I'm going to shout out 60 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:27.639 to because they're quick, okay, easy, Anielo says literally life changing. 61 00:03:27.759 --> 00:03:30.840 Ten out of ten, this podcast inspired me to pursue 62 00:03:30.879 --> 00:03:32.840 my interest in bugs, and now I'm working in an 63 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.120 utopology lab. Huh, that's so exciting. Thanks Ali. Every episode 64 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:41.719 is super fun regardless of the topic. Listen to them all. Congratulations, 65 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:46.240 this is amazing. Also, Trista Edwards wrote, this podcast is 66 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:49.360 like the manifestation of all of my obsessions. Every episode 67 00:03:49.439 --> 00:03:53.639 is like experiencing an auditory cabinet of curiosities. As poet, 68 00:03:54.039 --> 00:03:57.599 this podcast generates so much creativity and inspires a poem 69 00:03:57.680 --> 00:04:00.400 with every episode. Thanks Ali. Soon I may have a 70 00:04:00.439 --> 00:04:04.800 whole book of poems inspired by ologies. Trista Edwards hell, 71 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.479 yes to that. Please keep doing that. We'll buy your book. 72 00:04:08.840 --> 00:04:09.199 Okay. 73 00:04:09.479 --> 00:04:12.560 Back to optthalmology, which is a word that is like 74 00:04:12.719 --> 00:04:16.519 a letter party where someone invited too many h's, Like, 75 00:04:16.639 --> 00:04:19.399 oh damn, why can I not spell this word? Just 76 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.279 keep adding hus. That's the secret and the etymology. If 77 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:27.519 you guessed Russian, you are not correct because it's Greek. 78 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:32.319 It's just Greek guys. Ophthalmolos means I. Okay, but what 79 00:04:32.360 --> 00:04:36.480 does it mean to be an ophthalmologist? Okay? Well, I 80 00:04:36.560 --> 00:04:39.319 called upon a longtime pal of mine, a friend who 81 00:04:39.439 --> 00:04:42.480 is not only super dedicated to his work, but he 82 00:04:42.600 --> 00:04:46.519 is one of the few truly sane people I know 83 00:04:46.600 --> 00:04:50.199 in LA. Like he stands out at barbecues because it's like, 84 00:04:50.240 --> 00:04:53.160 what's that guy's deal? He seems nice and like he 85 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:55.839 has his life together. It's so weird. He hasn't taken 86 00:04:55.839 --> 00:04:59.199 a picture of himself smoking or mentioned an impropt troupe. 87 00:04:59.560 --> 00:05:01.399 He's all so the type of friend that you can 88 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:04.000 text a medical problem too, and if it's related to eyes, 89 00:05:04.240 --> 00:05:07.360 he'll weather your questions. He'll hook you up solid dude. 90 00:05:07.480 --> 00:05:10.519 And I just wrote the Yelp reviews for his medical practice. 91 00:05:10.639 --> 00:05:15.040 People love him. He's like everyone's favorite super smart cousin. 92 00:05:15.399 --> 00:05:18.040 The reviews are like five stars. Would get treated for 93 00:05:18.079 --> 00:05:20.079 pink eye again. So I sent him a message. I 94 00:05:20.120 --> 00:05:21.920 was like, Hey, can I podcast your brain or what? 95 00:05:22.160 --> 00:05:24.199 And he was like, sure, dude. So I drove the 96 00:05:24.240 --> 00:05:26.560 half a mile to his house. Have I mentioned I'm 97 00:05:26.560 --> 00:05:28.720 based in Los Angeles? Also, it was so hot out, 98 00:05:28.759 --> 00:05:31.360 I'm sorry, And we sat at his kitchen table and 99 00:05:31.439 --> 00:05:34.759 had a merry old talk about eyeballs and he helped 100 00:05:34.759 --> 00:05:38.319 me face my squeamosity head on, and we talked about 101 00:05:38.360 --> 00:05:41.800 why evolution hasn't weeded out bad vision, and what to 102 00:05:41.879 --> 00:05:44.199 do if you screw up on your eye tests, and 103 00:05:44.240 --> 00:05:47.439 what to eat to have healthier peepers, and if phones 104 00:05:47.480 --> 00:05:50.199 are making us maybe a little cross eyed, and maybe 105 00:05:50.399 --> 00:05:54.839 very briefly some very bad ocular accidents, and what mascara 106 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:58.480 is really made of and Mari Juanna, and do I 107 00:05:58.560 --> 00:06:02.120 have eyeball tumors? And we dress diabetes and so called 108 00:06:02.519 --> 00:06:06.439 color blindness in air quotes and why we cry and 109 00:06:06.560 --> 00:06:10.399 dogs who wear glasses. So there's so much happening. Please 110 00:06:10.439 --> 00:06:16.279 get ready to have a ball with ophthalmologist doctor reed Wayous. 111 00:06:34.800 --> 00:06:38.199 Let's do this. I haven't I listened, Like I said, 112 00:06:38.199 --> 00:06:41.240 I listen to podcasts every day. I probably listened to 113 00:06:41.279 --> 00:06:42.920 an how I have the podcasts almost every day? 114 00:06:42.920 --> 00:06:44.600 Oh my god, I listening to. 115 00:06:44.600 --> 00:06:46.120 A podcast when you walk out to the door. 116 00:06:46.160 --> 00:06:46.759 Oh my god. 117 00:06:46.959 --> 00:06:48.959 Okay, I just have to get read in here like friend, 118 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:50.439 like ptend like I'm on the radio now. 119 00:06:50.519 --> 00:06:53.600 Yeah, it's great, look at this, we're rolling all right? Yeah? Okay, 120 00:06:54.120 --> 00:06:59.639 doctor Reid Wayness, you are an ophthalmologist. Yes, I know 121 00:06:59.680 --> 00:07:02.639 you get this question. I feel like everywhere like rental 122 00:07:02.639 --> 00:07:05.680 car counters, cocktail parties, whatever. What's the difference between and 123 00:07:05.800 --> 00:07:08.519 ophthalmologists and optometrists. I'm sorry, I have to ask you that. 124 00:07:08.879 --> 00:07:11.240 It's the question everybody asks, so it's a good one 125 00:07:11.279 --> 00:07:15.040 to start with. So optometrists and optthalmologists do a lot 126 00:07:15.079 --> 00:07:16.720 of there's a lot of overlaps, so they do a 127 00:07:16.720 --> 00:07:19.160 lot of the same things, which is examinize and treat 128 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:19.959 eye conditions. 129 00:07:20.199 --> 00:07:20.519 Okay. 130 00:07:20.680 --> 00:07:26.560 Optometry school focuses on diagnostic pathways, so learning to diagnose 131 00:07:26.560 --> 00:07:29.639 certain eye diseases, learning to do refractions, which you check 132 00:07:29.720 --> 00:07:32.639 patients for glasses and get them seeing well, do vision 133 00:07:32.759 --> 00:07:36.360 therapy like contact lenses and low vision specialties where they 134 00:07:36.600 --> 00:07:38.360 really focus on your vision. 135 00:07:38.560 --> 00:07:38.879 Okay. 136 00:07:39.240 --> 00:07:44.240 Ophthalmology is more of a disease focused specialty. Yeah, and 137 00:07:44.279 --> 00:07:46.399 you go through medical school, so you're focusing on the 138 00:07:46.439 --> 00:07:49.319 diseases and treating the diseases, whether that's medically or surgically. 139 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.360 So it is definitely overlap. But optthalmology is more of 140 00:07:52.399 --> 00:07:55.399 the medical side of things, but that's blurred a little 141 00:07:55.399 --> 00:07:58.720 bit more in recent years. So optometrists are doing nice 142 00:07:58.759 --> 00:08:01.079 pun right intended aphalmology pun. 143 00:08:01.560 --> 00:08:04.319 So refractions is what you call it. When they're just 144 00:08:04.399 --> 00:08:06.000 checking to see if you can read the idea. 145 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.120 Yeah, the torturous number one or number two, which is 146 00:08:08.120 --> 00:08:09.399 more clear that everybody hates. 147 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:12.399 I just did that. I just had an eye appointment on. 148 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.240 Tuesday, which I and you didn't see me. 149 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:17.079 I did not see you, can you? But do you 150 00:08:17.120 --> 00:08:18.199 do refractions? To you? 151 00:08:18.240 --> 00:08:18.839 Do I do? 152 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.680 Okay? I didn't know that you only cut eyeballs open. 153 00:08:21.800 --> 00:08:23.560 No, I mean I can. I don't do it as 154 00:08:23.600 --> 00:08:25.959 my mainstay of my work, but usually for friends and 155 00:08:26.000 --> 00:08:27.800 family and people I know, I do that. 156 00:08:28.279 --> 00:08:31.480 I had no idea, okay, I thought that I thought 157 00:08:31.480 --> 00:08:33.039 you were the big guns. Like you go to you 158 00:08:33.080 --> 00:08:35.000 and you're like, I think I have cancer in my eye. 159 00:08:35.080 --> 00:08:37.000 Well sure, I mean for that, you'd probably go to 160 00:08:37.000 --> 00:08:40.559 an oncologist specialist, which you know, you could see me first, 161 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:42.320 and if I see cancer in your eye, we'd refer 162 00:08:42.360 --> 00:08:44.200 you out to one of those, thankfully. But you know 163 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:45.840 that's pretty rare. You don't have cancer. 164 00:08:46.399 --> 00:08:48.679 I didn't realize until I said that that I have 165 00:08:48.799 --> 00:08:50.519 been told I do have an eye tumor. 166 00:08:50.840 --> 00:08:52.960 You have a trigium. I know, yeah, I remember. 167 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:55.159 So a side note, I forgot that i'd made read 168 00:08:55.240 --> 00:08:57.879 look at my gross eyeball like seven years ago. Also, 169 00:08:58.120 --> 00:09:02.360 a trigium takes its name from the word putter, meaning wing, 170 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:06.720 and it's this webby wing shaped film that grows in 171 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:10.639 your eyeballs if you move somewhere with bleached bright light 172 00:09:10.720 --> 00:09:13.399 and you don't wear sunglasses for a few years. The 173 00:09:13.480 --> 00:09:16.919 condition varies in severity. Mine's not that bad. But it's 174 00:09:16.960 --> 00:09:21.399 also called surfer's eye, which is appropriate because it is 175 00:09:21.679 --> 00:09:26.480 clinically speaking Helen Narnar anyway, Yeah, do I still have them? 176 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:29.679 Well, they don't just go away? Yeah, God, I have So. 177 00:09:29.759 --> 00:09:31.600 I have a benign tumor in my eye. 178 00:09:31.480 --> 00:09:34.039 Right, a tumor. It's more of a degeneration of the 179 00:09:34.480 --> 00:09:37.840 membrane covering your eye. Terygium is the medical term for it. 180 00:09:37.879 --> 00:09:40.679 But it's just a uv damage to the white part 181 00:09:40.679 --> 00:09:42.440 of your eye that causes it to get a little 182 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.960 It loses the elastic portion, so it kind of swells 183 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:48.639 up a little bit and grows a little differently than 184 00:09:48.639 --> 00:09:49.360 it normally would. 185 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:53.320 And so can I use I have eye tumors as 186 00:09:53.360 --> 00:09:54.879 an excuse to not go to things. 187 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.039 You can do whatever you want, whether you know, if 188 00:09:58.080 --> 00:10:00.559 there's an ophthalmologist or an optometrist at the party. They'll 189 00:10:00.559 --> 00:10:03.320 know you're full of something, but you know you can 190 00:10:03.360 --> 00:10:03.879 pull it off. 191 00:10:03.960 --> 00:10:06.399 I'm full of it. Tumors can't go to your birthday. 192 00:10:06.720 --> 00:10:09.919 So how did old doctor Waynis who I'm let's be honest, 193 00:10:09.960 --> 00:10:12.759 I'm just gonna keep calling Reid because we're like bros 194 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:16.240 in real life. How did he decide to go to 195 00:10:16.399 --> 00:10:18.399 medical school for ophthalmology? 196 00:10:18.840 --> 00:10:22.000 I went to medical school not knowing that I wanted 197 00:10:22.000 --> 00:10:23.600 to be an ophthalmologist, but just knowing that I wanted 198 00:10:23.639 --> 00:10:24.360 to be a physician. 199 00:10:24.679 --> 00:10:27.360 Really, so what convinced you? At what point during medical 200 00:10:27.360 --> 00:10:29.159 school were you cutting into a cadaver and you're like, 201 00:10:29.159 --> 00:10:30.039 you know what, eyeballs? 202 00:10:30.120 --> 00:10:33.159 So definitely not when cutting into the cadavers, although that 203 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.399 was some fun times as a first year medical student. 204 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:38.440 A few people lost their lunch that first day. I'll 205 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:42.600 never forget that really pretty kine. Oh yeah, actually reserved. 206 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:46.360 So in his third year of medical school, Read came 207 00:10:46.600 --> 00:10:49.759 to a fork in the road, will he take medical 208 00:10:49.879 --> 00:10:53.000 path or the surgical path? That was me being like 209 00:10:53.039 --> 00:10:58.039 a witchy oracle deciding his future. If you're like medical surgical, Like, 210 00:10:58.080 --> 00:11:01.440 what's the difference? Okay? One involves the phrase. 211 00:11:02.759 --> 00:11:04.399 So for me, early on, I knew I wanted to 212 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:07.399 do something on the surgical side. I always loved doing 213 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:10.519 model cars and building stuff, so I knew I wanted 214 00:11:10.559 --> 00:11:13.360 to do something like that with my medical. 215 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:14.919 Training, but with live bodies. 216 00:11:15.240 --> 00:11:16.840 Yeah, but with live people exactly. 217 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:19.679 There's something to me. I'm like the leap between, Like 218 00:11:19.759 --> 00:11:23.039 I like working on like model ships, and like I'll 219 00:11:23.080 --> 00:11:27.080 cut into an eyeball. There's a very large, canyon size 220 00:11:27.159 --> 00:11:29.679 leap that one makes. How did you do that? 221 00:11:30.080 --> 00:11:33.360 So I don't think it feels that distinct when you're 222 00:11:33.360 --> 00:11:35.120 doing it, Like it just feels kind of like a 223 00:11:35.200 --> 00:11:38.759 natural progression of life, or like I want to be 224 00:11:38.799 --> 00:11:41.360 a physician, and I always liked working with my hands, 225 00:11:41.360 --> 00:11:44.679 so it's like a natural next step for me, and 226 00:11:44.879 --> 00:11:47.440 for me, all the surgical specialties just were much more fun. 227 00:11:47.480 --> 00:11:52.000 I just enjoyed those things more. I enjoyed doing things 228 00:11:52.200 --> 00:11:56.639 physically to help people be better. Oh thank god, Yeah. 229 00:11:56.240 --> 00:11:58.159 Thank god there are people like you that exist. 230 00:11:58.320 --> 00:11:58.919 Yeah, thank you. 231 00:11:59.080 --> 00:12:02.399 I'm like, I can't cut a raw chicken, and so 232 00:12:02.639 --> 00:12:04.600 thank god that there's someone that's like, yeah, I'll hop 233 00:12:04.600 --> 00:12:07.399 in there and do that, who would fix people's eyeballs. 234 00:12:07.559 --> 00:12:08.759 Yeah, that's what I'm here for. 235 00:12:08.879 --> 00:12:10.960 Like no one, so you were, was it kind of 236 00:12:10.960 --> 00:12:13.080 the altruism of it, like knowing that they're going to 237 00:12:13.159 --> 00:12:16.120 come out of this surgery it provided you're not drunk, 238 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:18.120 that you're they're going to come out of it better 239 00:12:19.279 --> 00:12:19.720 sort of. 240 00:12:19.799 --> 00:12:23.039 I mean, I don't think I've ever thought about it 241 00:12:23.039 --> 00:12:24.919 from that perspective. It's an interesting way to think about it. 242 00:12:24.919 --> 00:12:26.919 I mean, I think I just it felt normal to 243 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:29.799 want to do something to make a difference in people's lives. 244 00:12:29.840 --> 00:12:32.159 But I never thought about, like, oh, the reason I'm 245 00:12:32.159 --> 00:12:35.360 doing this is altruism. It's more about just seem normal. 246 00:12:35.399 --> 00:12:37.120 I want to do something where I can help people, 247 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.399 and it just fit. So for me, it was kind 248 00:12:40.399 --> 00:12:42.240 of like there was never a light bulb moment. It 249 00:12:42.279 --> 00:12:44.519 was just kind of it just always seemed like this 250 00:12:44.559 --> 00:12:46.600 is what I should be doing with my life. Medicine 251 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:48.559 that is, Oh, this is what I like. I really 252 00:12:48.679 --> 00:12:52.240 like treating eye conditions and helping people see better, and 253 00:12:52.279 --> 00:12:53.519 it just is enjoyable. 254 00:12:53.639 --> 00:12:55.279 You know what, I just realized, you have glasses. 255 00:12:55.440 --> 00:12:55.759 I do. 256 00:12:55.960 --> 00:12:57.399 How long have you had your glasses? 257 00:12:57.559 --> 00:13:00.000 So I've worn glasses pretty much since high school? 258 00:13:00.519 --> 00:13:04.159 Why is it so common? This is my biggest question. 259 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.519 So many people have bad vision. If you put me 260 00:13:07.679 --> 00:13:10.399 in the wild or like on Survivor, and you took 261 00:13:10.399 --> 00:13:12.240 out my contacts, I would die in the first like 262 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:15.639 twenty four hours, Like I have no chance. I can't 263 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:20.519 see anything without them. So why have we evolved to 264 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:22.240 have such shitty vision? 265 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:25.480 Sure, so that's a good question. I think a lot 266 00:13:25.519 --> 00:13:27.159 of it comes back to what you just said, which 267 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.399 is it's evolved. So we didn't necessarily evolve to have 268 00:13:30.720 --> 00:13:33.159 that bad of vision. You know, if you go back 269 00:13:33.240 --> 00:13:36.240 hundreds of years ago, we probably didn't have people who 270 00:13:36.279 --> 00:13:39.679 had minus ten prescriptions and these super strong glasses and contacts. 271 00:13:39.679 --> 00:13:42.759 That wasn't as common. We've seen a big boom in myopia, 272 00:13:42.799 --> 00:13:46.080 which is nearsightedness of having strong, strong need for glasses. 273 00:13:46.440 --> 00:13:50.200 In really the modern world, there's debate about what causes 274 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.919 that one hundred percent. You know, we think that being 275 00:13:52.960 --> 00:13:56.600 indoors more, a lot of close work like reading computer's phones, 276 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.320 all those things raise the risk of having a stronger 277 00:13:59.320 --> 00:14:01.360 prescription when we're at a young age doing that thing. 278 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:04.759 Those things that we all do definitely affects that. So 279 00:14:04.799 --> 00:14:08.519 some of it is not about historical evolution of humanity, 280 00:14:08.559 --> 00:14:11.519 but kind of our behavioral changes over the last hundred years. 281 00:14:11.720 --> 00:14:14.120 So wait, what you're saying is wearing glasses really does 282 00:14:14.159 --> 00:14:16.720 mean you're a nerd because that means you were staying indoors, 283 00:14:17.240 --> 00:14:20.440 like not getting any sunlight, probably reading. Then you're wearing glasses. 284 00:14:20.639 --> 00:14:21.559 Thus you're a nerd. 285 00:14:22.000 --> 00:14:24.200 So a chicken or the egg, right, I don't know, 286 00:14:24.480 --> 00:14:26.679 but yeah, probably works that way a little bit. If 287 00:14:26.679 --> 00:14:29.559 you're spending more time indoors, you know, playing games and 288 00:14:29.600 --> 00:14:32.279 doing things up close, you're probably more likely to wear glasses. 289 00:14:32.320 --> 00:14:32.480 You know. 290 00:14:32.480 --> 00:14:34.440 One of the treatments they recommend for kids to reduce 291 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:37.879 myopia is to spend more time outside. Really yeah, absolutely, 292 00:14:38.080 --> 00:14:38.799 Oh damn. 293 00:14:39.039 --> 00:14:40.799 That's the one thing I feel like we're getting worse 294 00:14:40.799 --> 00:14:42.240 and worse probably. 295 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:44.399 Probably yeah, And we're just going the exact opposite direction 296 00:14:44.440 --> 00:14:44.720 of that. 297 00:14:45.039 --> 00:14:47.639 I guess like your kid reading an iPad outside doesn't 298 00:14:47.679 --> 00:14:48.480 cut in, right. 299 00:14:48.440 --> 00:14:49.559 Probably not? Probably not. 300 00:14:50.200 --> 00:14:53.120 So do you think that like dogs and apes and 301 00:14:53.159 --> 00:14:56.360 giraffes and stuff have shitty vision and they're just like, man, 302 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:57.720 I would I can't read that sign? 303 00:14:58.440 --> 00:14:58.559 Uh? 304 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.200 Some do? I mean yeah? I mean you've can tell though, 305 00:15:01.240 --> 00:15:04.080 if an animal can't function because of their vision, then 306 00:15:04.120 --> 00:15:06.559 they're gonna be walking into stuff. So you know, again, evolution, 307 00:15:06.639 --> 00:15:08.200 I think hits those kind of animals a lot harder 308 00:15:08.200 --> 00:15:11.080 than they do us at this point, since we're pretty domesticated. 309 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:13.519 But you know, a dog that can't see. We all 310 00:15:13.600 --> 00:15:15.639 see dogs with cataracts as they get older, and you 311 00:15:15.679 --> 00:15:17.399 can see the cloudiness in their eye and they're bumping 312 00:15:17.440 --> 00:15:20.639 into the walls. But most young animals don't have problems 313 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.799 like that because just their behavior and evolution over the 314 00:15:23.840 --> 00:15:27.240 years hasn't created a situation where they're reading things up close. 315 00:15:27.279 --> 00:15:29.639 You know, even if your dogs inside all day, they're 316 00:15:29.679 --> 00:15:30.679 not reading the newspaper. 317 00:15:32.000 --> 00:15:33.000 Do that dog would rule? 318 00:15:33.279 --> 00:15:35.960 Yeah, I mean Garfield probably would mean glasses eventually, but 319 00:15:36.159 --> 00:15:37.919 other than that, most pets are good to go. 320 00:15:38.240 --> 00:15:41.200 Quick aside, I needed to see photos of animals and glasses, 321 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:45.320 so I googled animals and glasses and it did not disappoint. 322 00:15:45.799 --> 00:15:51.159 I soon found myself on a website called doggles dot com, which, 323 00:15:51.440 --> 00:15:54.960 as you may have guessed, sells goggles for dogs, just 324 00:15:55.039 --> 00:15:59.639 dope as hell, prescription lenses, sunglasses for pups. And for 325 00:15:59.679 --> 00:16:03.279 a second, I forgot all about the world's troubles. Also, 326 00:16:03.480 --> 00:16:06.639 one study found that gorillas, are you ready for this 327 00:16:06.960 --> 00:16:09.799 need reading glasses when they get older? So what is 328 00:16:09.879 --> 00:16:11.559 happening when you get older and you have to hold 329 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:12.759 shit further away from your face? 330 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:13.080 Okay? 331 00:16:13.320 --> 00:16:16.360 The muscles in our eyes, they make it harder to 332 00:16:16.480 --> 00:16:20.480 squish our lenses to change focal length. So it's kind 333 00:16:20.480 --> 00:16:22.639 of like your hand getting too tired to work a 334 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.639 zoom lens. But I feel like instead of reading glasses 335 00:16:25.720 --> 00:16:29.159 for gorillas, they would technically be like lice picking glasses. Okay, 336 00:16:29.440 --> 00:16:32.000 how much do you notice eye problems and other people? Like, 337 00:16:32.039 --> 00:16:35.200 for example, my eyes are garbage. My eyes are tiny 338 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:38.720 balls of garbage, Like I have turigium, which are I'm sorry, 339 00:16:38.919 --> 00:16:41.279 there are tumors in the eye. I'm telling everyone. I 340 00:16:41.519 --> 00:16:44.000 my eyes get red when I'm hungry. I don't know 341 00:16:44.039 --> 00:16:46.720 why they get read all the time. Like how much 342 00:16:46.799 --> 00:16:48.960 are you diagnosing people when you're talking to them? 343 00:16:49.279 --> 00:16:51.559 Not that much? Surprisingly, I'm not just talking to people 344 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.120 out in the street and really like looking, Oh do 345 00:16:53.120 --> 00:16:54.480 they have a red eye? Do they have a contact 346 00:16:54.519 --> 00:16:56.279 in their eye? Do they have trigium? Do they have 347 00:16:56.320 --> 00:16:57.000 a cataract? 348 00:16:57.080 --> 00:17:01.960 Now with the influx or rather now with a change 349 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:05.240 in policy toward wacky tobacci. Do you notice a lot 350 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.960 of stony eyeballs in Los Angeles and California and also Denver? 351 00:17:09.960 --> 00:17:10.039 So? 352 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:13.839 I think it's hard to tell, because you know, you don't. 353 00:17:14.400 --> 00:17:15.960 I think I just assume at this point everyone in 354 00:17:15.960 --> 00:17:18.799 Los Angeles is stone. So I can't tell who's just 355 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.519 got red eyes from dryness out there and who's actually stone. 356 00:17:21.680 --> 00:17:23.759 Why do people's eyes get bread when they're stone? I 357 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.680 can't believe that. I didn't realize that. I meant to ask. 358 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:30.039 Sure, So we have blood vessels on our eyes, and 359 00:17:30.079 --> 00:17:32.599 when they're dilated the blood vessels, they look more red, 360 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.880 and when they're shrunken they look less red. 361 00:17:35.240 --> 00:17:38.599 So heads up. It's the THHC levels in the wacky 362 00:17:38.599 --> 00:17:41.880 tobacci that lower the blood pressure and then cause blood 363 00:17:41.960 --> 00:17:46.240 vessels to just bloom and dilate into something beautifully bloodshot. 364 00:17:46.599 --> 00:17:50.400 But that very decrease in the intraocular pressure is what 365 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:54.160 helps the glaucoma patients. So if you're somewhere it's legal 366 00:17:54.319 --> 00:17:57.960 and you want the other medicinal benefits of cannabinoids but 367 00:17:58.039 --> 00:18:01.359 do not wish to look like mugshot, you can go 368 00:18:01.599 --> 00:18:05.720 for lower TAC products instead of just like buying vizine 369 00:18:05.880 --> 00:18:06.920 by the leader jug. 370 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:09.839 You know, if you take vizine, it just a vasoconstrictor. 371 00:18:09.880 --> 00:18:12.119 It shrinks the blood vessels on your eye so they 372 00:18:12.119 --> 00:18:14.000 don't look as red. That's what vizin is doing to 373 00:18:14.000 --> 00:18:15.960 people's eyes are clear eyes. Any of that stuff I. 374 00:18:15.880 --> 00:18:18.839 Hear that stuff is garbage. It's so bad, terrible is it? 375 00:18:19.119 --> 00:18:20.920 So it hides the redness, but it doesn't actually treat 376 00:18:20.920 --> 00:18:22.880 the problem, and then what ends up happening is your 377 00:18:22.920 --> 00:18:25.720 eye gets addicted to it. So once you stop taking it, 378 00:18:25.839 --> 00:18:27.960 the blood vessels aren't trunking down anymore. They kind of 379 00:18:28.039 --> 00:18:29.839 dilate up really really big, and then your eyes look 380 00:18:29.880 --> 00:18:31.680 super red, and then you put more in because you're 381 00:18:31.680 --> 00:18:33.240 stuck using it, and then you're just in a cycle 382 00:18:33.279 --> 00:18:35.319 where anytime you don't use it, your eyes get super 383 00:18:35.319 --> 00:18:37.079 super red and you feel like you have to use 384 00:18:37.119 --> 00:18:38.839 it every day. So it's very addictive. 385 00:18:38.960 --> 00:18:39.039 It. 386 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.160 Don't use it every day because it's you know, your 387 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:42.720 guy's gonna get hooked on it, and you don't use 388 00:18:42.720 --> 00:18:45.359 it for dry eyes. Use it for occasional redness relief. 389 00:18:45.400 --> 00:18:49.599 That's totally cool, okay, But in general, treat it like 390 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:53.680 a special occasion type of vasoconstrictor exactly. I hear you 391 00:18:53.680 --> 00:18:55.200 can use it on zis though, and it makes them 392 00:18:55.240 --> 00:18:55.720 less red. 393 00:18:55.799 --> 00:18:57.640 I haven't heard that. I mean, I will try it. 394 00:18:57.680 --> 00:18:58.599 I've got some samples. 395 00:18:58.839 --> 00:19:00.799 I mean, you're also talking to someone who's put hemorrhid 396 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.480 cream on their face, So don't listen to anything I say. 397 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:08.759 So let's back up and say, let's just back up 398 00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:13.000 and look at how does vision work? Like in a nutshell, 399 00:19:13.119 --> 00:19:16.039 because it's kind of crazy that we have these eyeballs 400 00:19:16.400 --> 00:19:19.480 in our faces. What are they mostly made of? Are 401 00:19:19.519 --> 00:19:22.799