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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley You Can't

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Be Serious podcast. We are in the midst of our

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run of nineteen eighty four. We've got all kinds of

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good nineteen eighty four things going on right now. And

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here's an interesting fact. Everybody, nineteen eighty four had five

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number one albums, only five. This is the shortest list

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of number one albums in music history. And they are

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all iconic.

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Speaker 2: They are iconic. I can't wait to discuss. We've got

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two albums from nineteen eighty four that were could compare

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the two favorites. Yeah, and then the week after that,

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we're going to talk about two movies from nineteen eighty

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four that our favorites, followed by.

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Speaker 1: Two more movies with great albums with great album I mean,

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and that's it, okay, So let's talk So nineteen eighty four,

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we've already covered it. Thriller, right, Thriller has the number

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one record for two years in a row, which is

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the only album to ever have done that. So nineteen

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eighty three, in February, it becomes number one. It is

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number one until April of nineteen eighty four, when what album.

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Speaker 2: Takes over Footloose.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So Footloose takes over in April and

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stays there until the end of June. Where June thirtieth,

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Huey Lewis and the News Sports hits the number one spot.

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Speaker 2: That is awesome, awesome. How long do they keep that.

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Speaker 1: Title for it? Exactly one week? And then who takes

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over Born in the USA? Right right? So, which the

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album that we're comparing today, Those two guys middle of

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the year and Bruce holds it for a good four weeks.

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He's got all of July and then last guy to

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take over for the rest of the year. It's pretty easy.

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Guess it's Princess Proble Ray exactly. So teaser for a

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few weeks from now, we will have Footloose the movie,

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and Purple Rain the movie, and Footloose the album in

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Purple Ran the album that we're going to compare all

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of those things together. Super excited for that, and we

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will have hit every single of the five number one

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albums of nineteen eighty four.

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Speaker 2: Man, it's gonna be amazing. I can't wait. Nineteen eighty

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four best year for music in the eighties.

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Speaker 1: I think it's time to go back in time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, wait, wait, okay, I'm sorry, fellows, you're just too

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darn loud.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic. Okay, So we had a fantastic experience that Jason

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probably doesn't think as fantastic as I do. He had

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a flat tire today just before we started recording. Now,

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Jason has come and saved me before when I ran

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out against Yes, I'm a forty five year old man

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who did not fill up the time. I got so

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many practices going on the last I didn't have time

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to stop for gas, and so he came while I

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was stranded on the side of the road and filled

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me up with gas. I got to repay that favor

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today by picking him up when he got his flat tire.

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His was a little nicer for him because he made

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it to the tire fixing place. But we rode to

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the recording studio today listening to sports.

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Speaker 2: And we put the top down, yep, we turned it up, yep,

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and we're blowing out I want a new drug.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. Yeah, it really really was.

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Speaker 2: We're back to being eleven, except we can drive.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So I've got to say I'm so excited to

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talk about Hugh Lewis and the News. This is the

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best album that I went back to in our entire

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history of doing everything so far. Wow, this was a

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huge album for me back in the early mid eighties,

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but one that I kind of lost touch with over

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the years. I mean, there are some songs that you

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know you're going to continue to hear on the radio

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no matter what. But I couldn't have told you three

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weeks ago that Bad is Bad was a song by

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Hue Lewis and The News. But when it came on,

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I knew every single word and I was it was

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the definition of nostalgia. I was taken back to that

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moment in time where I'm listening to my cassette tape

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of sports and loving every single song.

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Speaker 2: Now, this is one of those unique albums where it's

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hard to find somebody who doesn't like this album. Yeah,

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Like this appeals to my dad and it appeals to

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my son. People can listen to this, just turn it

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on and enjoy. It's just everything is like a toe tapper,

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feeling good, top down, turn it up song.

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Speaker 1: I've talked to you about my brother before. He's the

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one that said we got to go watch Back to

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the Future. He's the one that said we got to

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go watch Diehard. He was huge influence in my life

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and it was because of him that I heard hue

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Lewis Sports Like. He was the one that had the tape.

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And so whenever we started talking about comparing these two albums,

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I texted him. I let him know, and he's like,

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call me, and so I called him and he told

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me about how at that time he was going into college.

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He went to college in eighty six, and so at

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that time he would try to tell people, you know, hey,

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what they meeting people for the first time. Who's your

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favorite band? He would start, He would say, Huey Lewis

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in the news. But at that point he almost felt

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like he had to apologize for it, because it was

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like people were like, oh, popular music whatever, And he

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kind of got to where he just automatically said, well,

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you know, I know it's pop, but I really do

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like Huey Lewis in the News. And so we started

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talking about that album together back and forth, and he

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texted me a little while later he said, I'm listening

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to it right now. I am no longer hiding the

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fact that I am an Avid Huey Lewis fan. I

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am free I liberated. I am liberated. I could wear

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my Huey Lewis badge with pride. So I told him

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sometimes there are folks out there who stick their nose

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up at popular music, and we just kind of give

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those people the finger.

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Speaker 2: That's right, we celebrate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's popular, and that's okay. It's popular because it's good. Right,

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We're not fooled here. It's popular because it's good. So

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come enjoy this album with us. But first, let's talk

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about the history.

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Speaker 2: Let's go back in time.

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Speaker 1: Before we get going, I just want to point something out.

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We have been talking to each other now for a

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couple of years, face to face. And one of the

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reasons that I can do that is because you don't

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have nose hair. Have you been talking to people and

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like you can't even concentrate on what they're saying because

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of their nose hair.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, they like tuck to you.

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Speaker 1: It dangles, yes, it wiggles. It's a total distraction. Absolutely,

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And so let me let me say, if you are

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one of those guys, we have a product that is

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Speaker 2: It is an amazing product. It trims your nose hair.

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It's not embarrassing. You just stick it up there. It

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takes care of it.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna look at people and bother them, right,

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And I'm one of those guys who's self conscious about

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my nose hair. So somebody that you're gonna see me

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and I'm gonna be like yanking them out and wincing

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in pain, don't do that. There is a special thing

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point out that a giraffe is easier to see in

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the plane than it is in the forest, So that's

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that's wonderful. Yes, yes, it is.

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Speaker 2: So very It's very good around sensitive areas, if you

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Speaker 2: Whack it perfect.

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Speaker 1: So we talked about Bruce Springsteen last episode. Right. Bruce

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born September of forty nine at Monmouth Medical Center in

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Long Branch, New Jersey. Just a little over nine months later,

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Huey Lewis is born fifty miles away. Okay, isn't that crazy,

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Like they're so close in age, born just you know,

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a stone's throw away from each other in hospital in Manhattan,

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Long Branch in Manhattan. Worlds apart economically, But it's just

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interesting that these guys were so close together. But hue

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did not stay there very long. His mom had escaped

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from Poland during the war. Right, this is nineteen fifty, Right,

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the war has been over for five years, just a

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little while after he was born. Her parents had come

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to kind of join them, and they were pretty well

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to do or company owners. And then really in a

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bizarre thing, they both commit suicide. And it's just devastating

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to his mom, and she's like, I just can't, I

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can't live here anymore. And so they move all the

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way across the country to California, where Huey Lewis grows.

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Speaker 2: Up Wow, I had not heard that. That's interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he his dad is a radiologist by trade,

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but a drummer by heart. Right. He loves music, loves jazz.

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to play the drums. Oh, by the way, Huey lewis

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not his given name.

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Speaker 2: Right, his given name. His birth name is Hugh Anthony

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Speaker 1: So doctor Craig taught young Huey how to play swing

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drums because if you've got time, you've got the foundation

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of music. So he's a really bright kid. He skips

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second grade. Yeah, his mom they're out like near Berkeley

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and stuff. She really gets into the hippie scene, like

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they're in the baby Hippie. Yes, she goes full blown hippie.

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poet named Lou Welch, who also has a weird like

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left a note and then nobody's ever seen him since then.

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and I think probably has a lot to do with

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his songwriting and musical tastes. Huey's first albums are Gary

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Us Bonds and Bobby Waddell. Okay, and then he gets

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to go to a concert of Paul Butterfield at the

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concert and he's like, this is what I want to do, right,

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this is incredible. So she has the affair, the parents

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get divorced. He's about thirteen at this time. It's tough

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experience for him. The judge asks him what he wants

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to do. He doesn't want to pick between him and

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his dad proposes, Hey, why don't you go to this

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prep school? Right? And so he ends up at this

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prep He gives his dad gives him a brochure for

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the prep school where it's like a beautiful campus and

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over there and it's an all boys school.

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Speaker 2: Yeah exactly, Like that's a bait switch.

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Speaker 1: If I ever heard it.

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Speaker 2: I heard him talking about it. He said, think dead

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poet society.

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Speaker 1: So he comes in and he wants to set himself apart.

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harmonica right, and he becomes an R and B snob.

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that type of stuff, And so that's who he was

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growing up. He ends up graduating because he skipped a grade.

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He ends up graduating at age sixteen. Now he's no slouch.

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He scored a perfect eight hundred on the math portion of.

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Speaker 2: The SAT I know.

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Speaker 1: In addition to that, he's also like a world class pitcher.

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Speaker 2: He's a very good baseball player.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so he's got this plan. He's going to go

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to Cornell. He's all States, so he's going to play

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ball over there. And his dad says, you're your own guy.

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last thing for me, go to Europe and bum around

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which is just the absolute reverse, right right, right, No,

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don't go directly to college. You're a year young, go

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out there and bum around Europe.

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Speaker 2: I want to make one comment. Yeah, when you're talking

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about his perfect math score and his baseball ability, I've

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heard him talk about this, right. He very much under

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sells his talent. So he's like, yeah, you know, I

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kind of got lucky on the math portion. And David

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Letterman's like, you don't get lucky in math, right, you

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don't get lucky.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then the guy was interviewing me and said, now

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you were going to play baseball like you were a

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good player, and he's like, ah, you know, I thought

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I wanted to be a baseball player, but then I

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turned eight. Oh, but yeah, he was gifted as an athlete,

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played baseball and basketball in high school and then this

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amazing feat in math and said nah, I.

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Speaker 1: Just got like yeah. And so he's excited to go

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to college and his dad says, yeah, go be a hippie,

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hitchhike and bomb. So he hitchhikes just to get over

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to New York. Right, he's in California, hitchhikes just to

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get over to New York where he's going to try

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to fly. Although he's only got about three hundred bucks

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on him, and so what he does is he's talking

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to people about how to sneak on to like a

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cargo plane, and so he ends up driving out to

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the cargo thing. He can't figure out how to get on,

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so he ends up back in the regular passenger flights.

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He befriends somebody at the ticket counter and he's like,

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I've heard this secret about a silver pin. And the

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guy's like, well, until I get a FOURK in an hour,

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and I'll tell you what to do. He's like okay,

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and so sure enough, like these are the days of

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very lack of security planes and basically you could buy

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a ticket for anywhere you just and then take a

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silver pen. You write Europe or whatever it is on

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your ticket, and all they do is see your ticket

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and send you on your way. Examine what it is.

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And so he ends up basically scamming a flight out there.

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They hand him a pack of cigarettes as he gets

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on the plane. That's how long ago this was. Here's

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a pack of four cigarettes for the flight.

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Speaker 2: See enjoy, enjoy, Hey smoke up, Johnny.

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Speaker 1: So he ends up in Europe and hitchhikes again down

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front from London down to North Africa and then he says,

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I wanted to leave North Africa, but I was so

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stoned I couldn't. He needed a new drug.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly, exactly, so you know when you talk about

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North Africa. Yeah, he said he played in the town

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square in Marrakesh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So he's out there with like snake charmers and like

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fortune tellers, and he's got a harmonica and a hat,

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and he said, so he would play. He said to

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earn you know, three or four durham I think is

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their currency. He said it costs one durham to stay

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in the youth hostel and half a durham to eat.

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He's like, what else do I need? Man, I'm making it.

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Speaker 1: Yes. So he stays out there busking on the harp

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for like three months, and then eventually he gets back

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to the United States, sking on the harp. Yeah, busking

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is playing music for money on the streets and the

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harp is there. You go.

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Speaker 2: So, I got to tell you about this great story

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that I heard Huey Liwis talking about while he was

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in Europe. Okay, he's hitchhiking all over Europe and he

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meets this guy named Michael Jeffries. So he's decided, Okay,

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I'm leaving Marrakesh. I want to get to Portugal and

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eventually work my back to the States. So they're hitchhiking

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and they get picked up by this Dutch guy who

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likes to drink a lot. So he's like, the guy's

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willing to give me a ride, and it was a

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Chevy and he was like, man an American taking a

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ride into Chevy. He's like, I was so thankful, he said.

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But this guy stopped every bar along the way. So

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by the like the seventh bar, he's really drunk, right,

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and he crashes into this like pond, like ramps over

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a levee and goes into the water, and so like

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there's water like up.

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Speaker 1: To their chev the levee.

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Speaker 2: Drove a Chevy to the levee, but it wasn't dry right,

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so the guy gets out, they push it out or

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whatever he says. He he squirts a fire extinguisher on

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the distributor to dry it out. I guess I don't

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really know. So they continue on. They get to the

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Portugal border and Hue realizes I've lost my passport. What

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had happened was when they hit the water, it floated

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out of his knapsack, so his buddy says, sorry, dude,

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see ya. So he leaves. Even so, he's got a

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hitchhike back into Seville and he hears rock and roll

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music playing and he's like, what am I gonna do.

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I've got no passport. I don't speak the language.

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Speaker 1: I speak rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: Right, So he goes and he knocks on the door

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and he's like, hey, I like rock and roll. You

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like rock and roll. Let me show you how to

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play some songs. I've got a harmonica. And he finally

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tells them basically I've lost my passport. And he's like,

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I need a ride to the embassy. So they said,

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no problem, will help you. So they take him to

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the embassy like it's like Friday like ride. At closing time,

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he's like, I lost my passport. They're like, do you

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have twenty bucks? No I don't, so they slammed the

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door in his face say come back on Monday.

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Speaker 1: With twenty bucks, and he's like, oh crap.

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Speaker 2: So we've got a hitchhike back to town and he tells

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his friends. He's like, I don't have twenty bucks. I

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got to have twenty bucks to make a passport. And

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they're like, no problem, will throw you a concert.

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Speaker 1: It's great.

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Speaker 2: So they tell all their friends. They put up all

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these posters. They say, whatever it is in Spanish, you

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know Huey and the Blues.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so come and listen.

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Speaker 2: He said, there's twelve hundred people.

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Speaker 1: There's packed.

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Speaker 2: He said. When he gets out there, he's performing, and

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he said, it's like pin drop silent, and the whole

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time he's playing his harmonica, he's like, man, we are dying.

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We are dying here. And he said, once we finished

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that first song, the place erupted in applause, and he said,

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this is what I.

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Speaker 1: Want to do. That's awesome. That is awesome.

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Speaker 2: There you go. Now we're going back to the States.

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Speaker 1: So he gets his passport, makes it back to the

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States and starts college. Yes, and an engineering major. Well,

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the prep school that he was at was so good

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that he was just like, they're doing the same stuff

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we were doing. I don't really have to go to class,

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and so he didn't go to class. He started a

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band called Slippery Elm and he would play, go take

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the tests, and then go play. Is what you got

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to do, right, if you can manage it, I guess

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and they've got the band was actually doing pretty well.

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They but everybody was saying, hey, you could be a success,

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except for your bass player. He sucks.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: His bass player was named Bill Benson, right, And so

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Hughey is kind of the leader of the band. It

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falls to him to tell Benson he's no longer in

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the band, and so he he's like, hey, buddy, come on,

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we need to go for a ride. So you get

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in the car snowy day. He's driving along and he says, listen, man,

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I'm sorry, but he can't be in the band anymore.

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What he does know is that Bill took some acid

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about thirty minutes before the car, and so he turns

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sheet white and he says, can you pull over? So

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Hue like pulls over and he starts yacking his belts

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out all over the snow, and he was like, this

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is the worst experience I've ever had in my life.

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This is important for later on. This set sets the

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stage for later on experience.

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Speaker 2: He did make the comment that when they hired a

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new bass player, it wasn't any different. It wasn't that

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dude's fault.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just he just had somebody.

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Speaker 2: He was the skateboat right.

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Speaker 1: Right. So after the first year, the second year is

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a little bit harder and he has to go to

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class for the second year, and he forged out, you

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know what, I don't like this. I don't like engineering,

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despite the fact that he's a math savant, right, I

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just want to play, and so we quit quits college.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: He goes back to San Francisco and he meets up

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with some friends that he had from junior high with

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this band called Clover Yeah, Clover Yeah. He sang a

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little bit, but he is an R and B guy

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and he has a gravelly, deeper voice, which is not

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right for a seventies hairband. Right. One of his junior

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high friends did have a super smooth voice, and his

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name was Alex Call. You know Alex Collins. I'm going

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to say seven numbers and you're gonna know who he is.

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Eight six, seven three nine.

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Speaker 2: He's Tony two tone.

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Speaker 1: Well he's not. He's the guy who wrote the song

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for Tommy two tone, Okay, which, by the way, there

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are all kinds of stories about that song out there

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and the real girl Jenny in the bathroom wall and

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all that, and Alex calls that's all he said, I

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wrote that song in my backyard. He said, I had

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the name, I had the number. I didn't really know

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what they meant. I just knew that that was a

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good way. That the numbers sounded good with the name,

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and that's what I went with. And the guy from

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Tommy Tutone, who's a friend of mine, showed up and

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he's like, it's got to be a phone number, and

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that was how the song was born. Okay, awesome. Huey's

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other friend was guitarist John McPhee. He would later end

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up with The Doobie Brothers and his third friend, Sean Hopper,

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who eventually makes his way to the News Exactly. They

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play the club circuit over there, and they're kind of interesting,

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like they're a hippie country band like Clover's First. They

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had a couple albums before hue joins up with them,

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and one of them has a picture of one of

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them in like overalls with no shirt standing next to

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this gigantic marijuana plant. So they were kind of an

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interesting mix of music that you can't really define. But

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they played the clubs over there in San Francisco in

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the Bay Area, and there's another band that they run

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in who quite frequently. They're both kind of the bands

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of the Bay Area at the time, and it's a

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band with a very unfortunate name, Soundhole.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes my dog makes no noise from the sound Hole.

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Speaker 1: So a couple of the guys who are members of

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Soundhole saxophonist and guitarist Johnny Cola and bassist Mario Sippolina.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, So Clover's.

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Speaker 1: Playing the Bay Area. And in nineteen seventy six, a

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CBS Records convention is held in San Francisco, and the

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industry's hot shots are all coming in from all over

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the world. And one of the bands that is playing

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at the convention is this British band named Doctor Feel Good. Okay.

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They have a manager who is kind of known for

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being a little bit of a crazy guy. His name

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is Jake Riviera, and he's with them, and they have

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a guitarist, Rody, who really is just like they just

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like him, and so they're like, you know, come with

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us and you can play guitar when you need to

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and help us with the equipment. His name is Nicolo.

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He comes up later to Nick Lo. Okaylo, So Jake

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Rivia Nike Lo. It turns out that Nick's band was

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actually fan of Clover. He was in another band called

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Brinsley Schwartz that was like a Clover copy band. They

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even had a lyric in one of their songs that said,

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We're going to saddle up right away back to the

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hills where Clover plays. So nice. It's kind of neat

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that they are not a well known band, but they've

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already got like this following of other bands. And so

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the record label sees Clover and thinks, hey, country rock

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is the next big thing. We're going to fly these

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guys out to London where they call it pub rock

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instead of country rock. Okay, we're going to fly them

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out to London and they are going to be the

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inspiration for all of the big pub bands to come.

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So the plane just happens to land in London on

471
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,480
the same day that Johnny Rotten spits in the face

472
00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:03,079
of an enemy reporter and the punk movement takes flight.

473
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, what incredibly bad timing.

474
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,279
Speaker 1: Yes, very bad timing. So they are a pub rock

475
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:12,960
country rock band in the world of punk, and so

476
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:14,599
they're just getting booted off the stage.

477
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I heard him talk about this. He said, we

478
00:23:17,079 --> 00:23:20,000
thought it was a success if we made it through

479
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:23,559
our set and didn't get booed off like booze would happen.

480
00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,519
But did we get booed off? No, we made a

481
00:23:26,519 --> 00:23:27,240
good job, guys.

482
00:23:27,279 --> 00:23:30,319
Speaker 1: Right. They learned to play their songs fast enough, sequentially,

483
00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:34,839
not leaving any spaces for silence. That was the key. Okay.

484
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,519
So I'm coming up on a story that I think

485
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:43,279
is maybe the best pivot, head fake fadeaway shot in

486
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,920
music history, and I'm excited about it. But okay, I'm

487
00:23:45,960 --> 00:23:49,160
just laying the foundation. Okay, it's starting now. Okay, So

488
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,319
they're miserable, right, the record label sticks with them, but

489
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,119
they're out there doing their best but really getting booed.

490
00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:57,559
But the record label says, hey, we're still going to

491
00:23:57,759 --> 00:24:01,000
produce your album, don't worry. But they Dickham with this

492
00:24:01,519 --> 00:24:05,880
still wet behind the ears. Staff producer at Phonogram's name

493
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:07,920
Mutt langat.

494
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:12,599
Speaker 2: Get Out YEP, Mutt freaking Lang, Mutt Lang before Mutt

495
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,480
Lang is Mutt Lang, Like he's He's done a few albums,

496
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,319
but nothing of any notoriety.

497
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: Right, this is seventy six, seventy seven, So he's just

498
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:23,079
a guy. He's a guy who works at the studio.

499
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:23,680
That's it.

500
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,319
Speaker 2: For those of you who are not familiar with Robert

501
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,079
mutt Lang, he produced Back in Black, he produced Pyromania,

502
00:24:30,519 --> 00:24:34,680
he produced Hysteria, He produced Shania Twain and all of

503
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:38,319
her big stuff. Yep, he's a mega producer. That blows

504
00:24:38,319 --> 00:24:38,599
me away.

505
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. Hughey said that even at that time seventy seven,

506
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:45,079
he had an incredible work ethic, but no hits in

507
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:48,440
nineteen seventy eight. So two years later, record deal is over,

508
00:24:48,839 --> 00:24:52,000
Clover has gone nowhere. They go back to San Francisco

509
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:54,720
and John McPhee says, guys, I'm leaving the band. I've

510
00:24:54,759 --> 00:24:57,119
got an offer from the brothers and I can't do

511
00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,559
it anymore. And without him there is no Clover.

512
00:25:00,039 --> 00:25:01,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Clover dies.

513
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. So this is heartbreak. This is like we think

514
00:25:04,839 --> 00:25:07,400
we've made it and we don't, and we've been doing

515
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,599
this eleven years and now the band's breaking up. Huey

516
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,880
Lewis wept yeah at this. Yeah. So it's seventy eight.

517
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:18,359
Record deal is over, the band is broken up. Hue

518
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,680
is stuck in England and he's thinking, here, I am

519
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,599
a harmonica player. So he ends up going back to

520
00:25:26,079 --> 00:25:29,559
San Francisco and he opens up a health food store.

521
00:25:29,599 --> 00:25:34,359
What yeah, natural Foods Express, and he's just thinking about,

522
00:25:34,519 --> 00:25:37,200
you know, what is his future going to be. He's

523
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,400
twenty eight years old, he has no money, no band,

524
00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,359
and he plays the harmonica. What do you do?

525
00:25:42,519 --> 00:25:44,559
Speaker 2: That sounds like a man who's on the fast track

526
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:45,559
to nowhere?

527
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 1: Right, So he thinks, you know what, I'm gonna do

528
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,720
this a different way. I don't need to be world famous.

529
00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,240
I can make money as a club band guy. And

530
00:25:53,319 --> 00:25:55,200
so he hits up his friends that had been a

531
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,759
part of Soundhole. He's got Sean Hopper with him over

532
00:25:57,759 --> 00:25:59,839
there to help him out on the keyboards, and he says,

533
00:26:00,039 --> 00:26:02,119
we're going to get a job as a club band.

534
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,559
He decides they're going to be a club band. They're

535
00:26:04,599 --> 00:26:06,160
gonna play every week and that's how they're going to

536
00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,559
make their living and it'll be great. And they recruit

537
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,160
Chris Hayes, who's a guitar player, who says, and I

538
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:12,839
thought at the time, hey, it'd be an extra one

539
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:14,000
hundred and fifty bucks a month.

540
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, right, I'll throw in with these guys and

541
00:26:16,319 --> 00:26:18,319
make a couple of you know, a couple extra dollars.

542
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,640
Speaker 1: So they go to this club called Uncle Charlie's to

543
00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:24,200
become the house band, right, and they say, we'll take

544
00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,400
Monday Nights and they develop their show. They have lots

545
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:31,559
of fun they do. They put on little dance moves

546
00:26:31,839 --> 00:26:35,680
and eventually it becomes called Monday Night Live and they've

547
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,519
got comedians coming in and doing bits and they put

548
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:42,240
on a crazy show that everybody loves. And they've got

549
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,440
this time, they've only got about three original songs. And

550
00:26:45,759 --> 00:26:49,319
also in their silliness, you know the movie Exodus, the

551
00:26:49,319 --> 00:26:52,920
theme from Exodus. Yeah, so they do a disco version

552
00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:57,440
of that song. Right, It's just it's just playing goofy and.

553
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 2: So wait, wait, wait, yeah we got to hear that.

554
00:27:00,079 --> 00:27:09,440
Speaker 1: Let's put it on. Okay, so you hear that, so

555
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,200
that there's a reason that we're listening to that right now. Okay,

556
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,480
it is because a studio came by saw them and said,

557
00:27:15,519 --> 00:27:17,400
you guys are awesome. How'd you like a free day

558
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,480
at the studio? Yeah. They're like, heck, yeah, this is great.

559
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,160
And so they get Pee Wee Ellis from James Brown's

560
00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:26,720
band to come in and play horns on Xodisco. And

561
00:27:26,799 --> 00:27:28,799
so then a few months go by, he gets a

562
00:27:28,839 --> 00:27:31,160
call from Nikolo. Nicholo says to him, I just wrote

563
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,519
the song and I think I stole it from h

564
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,440
He's like what. He's like, yeah, I'm pretty sure I

565
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,440
saw it. He's like, what's called. He's like, it's called

566
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,839
what looks Best on You is Me? And he's like, man,

567
00:27:42,839 --> 00:27:44,480
that was just a joke. You know. That's I told

568
00:27:44,519 --> 00:27:46,279
you a joke. That's not you. That's you did not

569
00:27:46,319 --> 00:27:48,519
steal that from me. He's like, I really feel like

570
00:27:48,559 --> 00:27:50,880
I owe you something. And he's like, you know, I

571
00:27:51,079 --> 00:27:52,960
just feel like this is kind of your song. He's like,

572
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:54,000
you know, want to tell you what? Give me a

573
00:27:54,039 --> 00:27:55,880
ticket out to London. I'd love to come see you.

574
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,759
We can have some fun, okay. So it's like, let

575
00:27:57,759 --> 00:27:59,160
me see what I can do, and so he calls

576
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,319
him back a little while. He's like, you're gonna play

577
00:28:01,319 --> 00:28:04,480
harmonica on some songs over here, so you're gonna get

578
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,000
to fly over here to London, and so yes, so

579
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,640
he gets to fly over there. He plays on Nicklow's

580
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,160
album called Labor of Lust and it's the songs called

581
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,799
Born Fighter and he wrote a song. Huey Lewis wrote

582
00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:19,480
a song that he gave to Dave Edmonds and it's

583
00:28:19,559 --> 00:28:22,880
on his album Repeat when Necessary, and Huey Lewis plays

584
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,920
the harmonica on that one as well. You know what

585
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,759
the name of that song is?

586
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,079
Speaker 2: I do because you told me otherwise I wouldn't have

587
00:28:29,759 --> 00:28:32,240
that song. Is bad is bad?

588
00:28:32,319 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's listen to the Dave Edmunds version here real quick,

589
00:28:35,799 --> 00:28:53,000
cool man, your son is bad? Time is bad? Okay,

590
00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,000
So you can tell it's the same song, but it

591
00:28:55,119 --> 00:28:56,960
is a completely.

592
00:28:56,359 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 2: That sounds blasphemous to my ears.

593
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,759
Speaker 1: The harmonica is fan but this it's definitely different style.

594
00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:05,240
It's definitely a different style. Yes. So they get done

595
00:29:05,319 --> 00:29:08,880
recording these two songs. It's three o'clock in the afternoon

596
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,720
and the record label comes in. The executives are listening.

597
00:29:11,759 --> 00:29:13,960
They're like this sounds great. I'm really you know, yeah,

598
00:29:14,119 --> 00:29:16,160
nice to meet you, Huey, Yeah, yeah yeah. And then

599
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,720
there's kind of this lull and hue says, hey, you

600
00:29:18,759 --> 00:29:20,559
want to hear something funny and they's like sure, and

601
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,079
he puts in exodisco. He's got the tape. He puts

602
00:29:23,079 --> 00:29:25,119
in exodisco and lets him listen to it and they

603
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:28,400
love it. They love it, and they're like, we would

604
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,680
love to put this on record. Can we do this?

605
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,920
And he's like, I don't know. Let me and they're like,

606
00:29:35,079 --> 00:29:37,559
you think about it. We're gonna go put some paperwork

607
00:29:37,559 --> 00:29:39,519
together and come back and you tell us what you

608
00:29:39,559 --> 00:29:42,279
want to do. Okay. So he leaves. Jake is there

609
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,319
still the manager from Doctor Feel Good, and Jake is like,

610
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,400
ask for thirteen points and three thousand pounds up front.

611
00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:52,359
He's like, what, ask for three thousand pounds up front

612
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,039
and do not do it unless they give you the

613
00:29:54,079 --> 00:29:57,000
money up front. And he's like okay, Yeah. The guys

614
00:29:57,039 --> 00:29:59,839
come back. He makes the pitch. They said, sure, sounds good.

615
00:30:00,119 --> 00:30:03,079
Pay for whatever recording studio time you need, but we

616
00:30:03,319 --> 00:30:05,000
want you to put some more vocals on it. There's

617
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,839
just we feel like it needs more vocals. He says,

618
00:30:07,839 --> 00:30:10,359
no problem, right, So here's where the pivot fake happens.

619
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:12,839
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm ready for this. I thought the pivot fake

620
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:14,160
was mut Lane. We keep going now.

621
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: So he goes back to the studio. The engineers at

622
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,960
the studio end up erasing thirty seconds of the demo

623
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,920
that they had already recorded of Exodisco. They just mess

624
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,319
it up. So he calls the record label and He's like, hey,

625
00:30:26,359 --> 00:30:29,799
these guys just erased thirty seconds of this. I got

626
00:30:29,839 --> 00:30:31,680
to have more studio time because I got to re

627
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,359
record that part. They say, no problem, we will pay

628
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,319
for your studio time. How much do you need. He's

629
00:30:36,359 --> 00:30:39,200
like five days okay, and they say sure, five days,

630
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,160
no problem, You've got it. Okay. He re records Exodisco

631
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,079
in four hours and uses the other the other four

632
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:49,519
and a half days to record the three original songs

633
00:30:49,519 --> 00:30:51,960
that they have, which then he uses as a demo

634
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,559
tape that he sends out, which gets him a manager,

635
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:59,200
Bob Brown coming to see him play, ultimately lands him

636
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,720
the record deal. Fade Away, Shoot and it's good.

637
00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:05,319
Speaker 2: He shoots the scores. Hey that's brilliant.

638
00:31:05,559 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: I love what a hustle is that?

639
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 2: Seriously savvy businessman?

640
00:31:09,799 --> 00:31:12,359
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it so so yeah, so

641
00:31:12,519 --> 00:31:14,720
he he sends out. He ends up sending out this

642
00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:17,359
demo tape. Bob Brown hears it and is like, this

643
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,839
is interesting. He goes to listen to him play loves

644
00:31:19,839 --> 00:31:22,559
how the band plays. He meets Huiye after the show

645
00:31:22,599 --> 00:31:25,400
and he's like, I love your voice, and Hui Luis says,

646
00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,039
you are the first person who has ever said that to.

647
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: Me, that's tragic because Huey Lewis has a great voice.

648
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I tried to think earlier. I was like, what

649
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:39,039
do we call this comparison? Right, it's the comparison of

650
00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:44,839
the not metal, gravelly voiced have a sacks a phone

651
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,000
in their songs band. I don't know what passionate rasping

652
00:31:49,119 --> 00:31:51,559
two guys who had number one hits in the middle

653
00:31:51,599 --> 00:31:53,640
of nineteen eighty four. I don't know it's but it's

654
00:31:53,759 --> 00:31:56,359
it's interesting because they were not the singers that you

655
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,759
would expect mid eighties, right, right, but one of only

656
00:31:59,799 --> 00:32:03,759
two guys, two blue eyed guys, to have hits that year,

657
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,000
that's right. The other part of the story is they

658
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,440
have this company called Video West out in California who

659
00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:13,240
calls them and says, hey, we're shooting things on videotape.

660
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,759
It's this new medium. We would love to shoot a

661
00:32:15,839 --> 00:32:18,680
video for your songs for free if you'll just let

662
00:32:18,759 --> 00:32:23,440
us play it on our videotape station. And he's like, Okay,

663
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,480
it sounds like a deal to me. So yeah, so

664
00:32:25,559 --> 00:32:28,599
you get demo tape, you get manager who really fought

665
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,880
for him. He's by the way, he's the guy in

666
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,279
the part of rock and roll video who's playing a

667
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:36,160
crossword puzzle while beating one of the guys at are wrestling.

668
00:32:36,599 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's Bob Brown. He's in the I Want

669
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,759
a New Drug video. When Hughey takes the stage, he's

670
00:32:41,799 --> 00:32:44,279
like running late. He runs up and the guy pulls

671
00:32:44,279 --> 00:32:45,079
the sunglasses out.

672
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, that's right. So Brown scores them a record

673
00:32:49,279 --> 00:32:53,519
deal and they produced their first album, which is just

674
00:32:53,559 --> 00:32:55,839
called you Listening Listen to the News.

675
00:32:55,920 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Making a brand you want them on time. Before we

676
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:19,640
dive into their second album, Picture This, I did want

677
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,519
to mention one thing. They were originally called Huey Lewis

678
00:33:22,519 --> 00:33:26,680
and the American Express and Bob Brown. Their managers like, hey, guys,

679
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,880
the name's okay, but I don't want to get sued, right,

680
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,559
so let's change it to something. And so they come

681
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,519
up with this great name, which I think is really cool.

682
00:33:35,599 --> 00:33:38,559
He listened the News, and that's the one that sticks.

683
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:43,240
And if you'll notice, sports is you know, sort of

684
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:47,839
TV station related, and their latest album Weather, you know,

685
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,119
it's kind of a play on the news. All right.

686
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:53,119
So their second album is called Picture This after their

687
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:57,519
first album really didn't do anything. They needed a hit, right,

688
00:33:57,559 --> 00:33:58,480
And keep in mind.

689
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: They're still figuring out who they are, right, Yeah.

690
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,279
Speaker 2: This is the time in life in the early eighties

691
00:34:02,319 --> 00:34:05,839
when radio is everything, right, MTV is new. Yeah, it's

692
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,119
up and coming. They haven't quite hit their stride yet.

693
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,679
Speaker 1: Just a bit before this, you've got push button radio

694
00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:13,800
for the first time, like where you could pick your

695
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:17,239
favorite stations, hit a button and who, and the radio

696
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,719
would automatically go there. Right. You didn't have to use

697
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:21,840
the little dial to try to find it, which was

698
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,960
a total pain. Well, what a result of that was

699
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,800
is if they didn't enjoy the song they were hearing, right,

700
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,199
then they're changing the station. Yeah. And so what somebody

701
00:34:31,199 --> 00:34:33,760
figured out is, well, then we just need to play

702
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,880
the most popular songs. We'll pick forty of them, and

703
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:41,719
top forty is born. Yeah, and so that is really

704
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:46,280
what was the programming method at the time that these

705
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,039
guys are starting their rise. If you weren't top forty,

706
00:34:49,079 --> 00:34:50,320
you weren't going to be making any money.

707
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 2: So they decided, look, this second album, we need a hit.

708
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:53,639
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

709
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,559
Speaker 2: So here he calls his old buddy met Lang, Yeah,

710
00:34:56,559 --> 00:34:58,840
and he says, listen, dude, I gotta have a hit man,

711
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:00,400
Can you help me something?

712
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,199
Speaker 1: And this time Muttlang has become Mut Lang.

713
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean back in black. Yeah.

714
00:35:05,039 --> 00:35:06,639
Speaker 1: I was gonna say he's got the he's got the

715
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:10,159
ac DC albums under his belt at this point, yes, yes,

716
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,920
So Matt Lang says, well, I've got this song that

717
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,000
I think is pretty good and it's called We Both

718
00:35:15,039 --> 00:35:15,719
Believe in Love?

719
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: Huh right? Yeah, And so here he listens to it.

720
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,719
He's like, ah, this sounds like a hit. I mean

721
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:21,920
it sounds good, you know, right.

722
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,039
Speaker 1: Do you know the lyrics to the to the original?

723
00:35:24,119 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: No?

724
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,599
Speaker 3: No, no, tell me Okay, So here's Mutt Lang's lyrics. Okay,

725
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,760
we both believe in love, we both believe it's ours.

726
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,360
You really give enough? Yeah, you make me really see

727
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:36,400
the stars.

728
00:35:40,199 --> 00:35:41,519
Speaker 1: Swing in a spell.

729
00:35:44,039 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: Well, you know what though, he takes it and he says,

730
00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,280
I think we could work with this. Yeah, that song

731
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:53,360
we Both Believe in Love becomes do You Believe in Love?

732
00:35:53,519 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: Yes?

733
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:11,920
Speaker 2: Down on One Way Street, and that's what they needed

734
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,760
and they had this successful video. It has a funny

735
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,000
scene where he's like serenading his girlfriend while she's asleep

736
00:36:18,039 --> 00:36:20,760
in bed, and all everyone in the news is like

737
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:22,239
in bed singing you know.

738
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,119
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of funny. I got a story on

739
00:36:24,159 --> 00:36:27,280
the video. Okay, So they hadn't had a professionally done

740
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,760
video before they get this video director that's supposed to

741
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,320
be really well known, really renowned, and he makes this

742
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,480
video and when they walk in and they watch the video,

743
00:36:35,519 --> 00:36:39,280
they're like, this sucks. They've all got way too much

744
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:43,280
makeup on. Yeah, he says the whole time. The video

745
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,320
is just kind of like mirroring what you have in

746
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:50,880
the lyrics and you know this like they had, they

747
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,039
had producers produced their records initially, but after a little

748
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,000
bit they're like, hey, we've been doing this long enough,

749
00:36:56,039 --> 00:36:58,239
we're going to produce our own record, right And after

750
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:00,039
they saw the video, they said, you know what, we

751
00:37:00,079 --> 00:37:03,280
can do this, We'll direct our own videos, which again

752
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:07,480
Top forty MTV modeled what it was playing right off

753
00:37:07,519 --> 00:37:10,599
of what radio was playing. So that's why you have

754
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,360
all of these videos that are horrible because they these

755
00:37:14,559 --> 00:37:17,920
music artists new music, but they didn't know videos. Huey

756
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,559
Lewis is like, we're going to make our own videos

757
00:37:20,599 --> 00:37:24,079
and from now on, if the song zigs the videos act,

758
00:37:24,199 --> 00:37:26,480
we are not going to have the videos related to

759
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,480
the songs as much as we can help it.

760
00:37:28,639 --> 00:37:31,679
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, And you make an interesting point there. They

761
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,679
produced their own albums, starting with Picture This. They also

762
00:37:36,159 --> 00:37:39,480
produced Sports, which is their third album. Yes, are we

763
00:37:39,519 --> 00:37:41,000
ready to dive into that a little bit?

764
00:37:41,159 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 1: Yes, let's start talking about the production of Sports.

765
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 2: Okay. So I've got this great story that I want

766
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:46,679
to tell you.

767
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:47,199
Speaker 1: Okay.

768
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 2: So their their record label is Chrysalis. So they finished

769
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:54,079
the album that eventually they're going to name Sports, and

770
00:37:54,159 --> 00:37:57,039
they've got the master tape, and Bob Brown, their manager,

771
00:37:57,159 --> 00:38:00,719
goes to call the office at Chrysalis, and when he does,

772
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,840
he doesn't get an answer. Unusual, right, He gets one

773
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,760
of those this line's been disconnected messages.

774
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: You used to get into.

775
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not like nobody answered, right, Like the secretary

776
00:38:11,039 --> 00:38:11,679
is not in the bathroom.

777
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: Right.

778
00:38:12,639 --> 00:38:15,599
Speaker 2: So he calls Huey Lewis later and he says, hey,

779
00:38:15,639 --> 00:38:17,679
I think we might have a problem. He's like, I

780
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,719
called the office and nobody. He goes, I got that

781
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,559
disconnected message and Huey Lewis says the one in Los

782
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:27,360
Angeles and Bob Brown says, the one in Los Angeles,

783
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,039
New York.

784
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,639
Speaker 1: And London oh, oh gosh.

785
00:38:29,679 --> 00:38:33,039
Speaker 2: So they are like, holy crap, Chrysalis is about to

786
00:38:33,079 --> 00:38:36,039
go under. They are going out of business. They didn't

787
00:38:36,079 --> 00:38:38,360
pay their phone bill. How in the world are they

788
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,119
going to support a band. So what they say is,

789
00:38:41,199 --> 00:38:42,760
we can't give them this record.

790
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah. The Chrysalis guys eventually get a hold of

791
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,239
them and they're like, hey, we're ready to have those recordings,

792
00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:50,519
and they're like are you are you sure?

793
00:38:50,679 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, we really you need to turn in your record. No,

794
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:55,920
we're not going to do it.

795
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,159
Speaker 1: Right. So, what was going on at this time is

796
00:38:58,199 --> 00:39:02,760
that Chrysalis had basically eliminated its distribution the part of

797
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,239
the company, Chris Liss became just a name and CBS

798
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:08,440
handled everything else. But obviously that Hugh Lewis in the

799
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,639
news didn't know that was going on.

800
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,519
Speaker 2: So it took some convincing, right, And so Bob Brown's like, look,

801
00:39:13,559 --> 00:39:16,519
we need money, number one, we need to make a living.

802
00:39:17,039 --> 00:39:19,519
Number two, we have this album that's ready to go.

803
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,280
And so Huey Lewis said he kept the masters for

804
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,519
this for Sports under his bed and like they carried

805
00:39:28,519 --> 00:39:30,559
it around because he was too afraid, like the house

806
00:39:30,639 --> 00:39:32,760
might burn down and stuff. So he carried it around

807
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,159
with him. He's so scared, but he couldn't turn it in.

808
00:39:35,199 --> 00:39:36,000
He had nowhere to go.

809
00:39:36,079 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: But he knew the value of what they had because

810
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:41,400
when they started this album, we talked about top forty

811
00:39:41,519 --> 00:39:43,760
and we've talked about it before when we've talked about

812
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:47,360
Mutt Lang and Quincy Jones. Right, we want to make

813
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:51,280
an album where any one of the songs could be

814
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,239
a top single. That was their objective with this album.

815
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: A bellti fastball right down Main Street for everyone. Yes,

816
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,599
and they did it. Obviously they did it. They did it.

817
00:40:01,639 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: Oh, yes, they didn't. They just wanted one. They were like,

818
00:40:04,519 --> 00:40:06,760
as long as one of these is the top forty hit,

819
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:10,239
we got it. They did not expect six.

820
00:40:10,199 --> 00:40:13,239
Speaker 2: Right, right, So this is interesting. So they have an

821
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,000
album that's complete, they think it's great. They don't feel

822
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,880
comfortable giving it to the record company, so it cannot

823
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,199
be sold, right, So they're like, well, what do we do? Well,

824
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,880
we got on the road. Got to go on the road,

825
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,280
gotta go travel. So they the tour I think is

826
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,400
called the working for a Living tour. They are playing

827
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:32,000
the songs on sports out there, Yeah, to crowd a

828
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,000
little bit, a little bit.

829
00:40:33,039 --> 00:40:35,519
Speaker 1: Well, they've they've got it reserved. So I know this.

830
00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:38,119
The reason I know this is because my brother told

831
00:40:38,119 --> 00:40:40,000
me a story. In addition, you know, when we're talking

832
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,079
on the phone, in our conversation about U Lewis, He's like, so,

833
00:40:43,199 --> 00:40:45,280
when I went to high school, there was a kid

834
00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:47,480
who was a year older than me. His name is Denny.

835
00:40:47,639 --> 00:40:49,480
If that you know, Hey Denny, if you're listening out

836
00:40:49,519 --> 00:40:53,440
there and you're reporter for the Greenwood, Arkansas High School paper,

837
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,000
I've heard a story about you. So Denny for the

838
00:40:57,039 --> 00:41:00,239
high school paper got a press pass and so on

839
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,599
the Working for a Living tour, Huey Lewis was matched

840
00:41:03,679 --> 00:41:06,119
up with Joan Jet and he was the opening band

841
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,440
and she was the main attraction. Yes, right, yes, And

842
00:41:09,519 --> 00:41:12,480
so I looked it up and sure enough, Fayetteville saw

843
00:41:12,639 --> 00:41:16,440
barn Hill Arena April of nineteen eighty three. There it is.

844
00:41:16,559 --> 00:41:18,920
It lists their set list and everything, and it's mostly

845
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:22,960
picture this songs that they're playing. Okay, but Denny with

846
00:41:23,079 --> 00:41:27,679
his press pass goes in and interviews Huey Lewis from

847
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,559
Huey Lewis and the news. I just I'm just like,

848
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:34,239
give credit to this guy for realizing Hey, I'm you know, sixteen,

849
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,519
but I've got a press pass.

850
00:41:36,159 --> 00:41:37,079
Speaker 2: My name is Denny.

851
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,280
Speaker 1: And so he said that Huey Lewis was kind of

852
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:45,000
pissed off because he thought that they should be the

853
00:41:45,039 --> 00:41:48,039
main band and that Joan Jet should be the opening band.

854
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: Wow.

855
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:51,199
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's imperson, and I couldn't. I had

856
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:53,719
to think, I'm like, Okay, in eighty two, she's coming

857
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,480
off of I Love Roca, which is huge.

858
00:41:56,599 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 2: I Love rock and Roll is huge, and Crimson and

859
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,840
Clover was big, you know, and she was in Runaways.

860
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that was like in this even Yeah.

861
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,159
Speaker 2: But Huey Lewis had a couple of songs.

862
00:42:05,199 --> 00:42:07,199
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you're working for a living and

863
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,559
do you believe love? Sorry? I was like, we both

864
00:42:09,559 --> 00:42:15,199
believe him. Good for him for having confidence. I don't

865
00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:16,719
think he was a jerk about it. I think he

866
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:20,800
just felt like that they they were special and probably

867
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:22,920
a pretty good band. I don't know how good Jone

868
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:26,800
Jet was as a live performance. Right, So say all

869
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:30,360
that to say, this is mid eighty three and they

870
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:34,039
are all crammed in one bus, but the lids about

871
00:42:34,079 --> 00:42:36,440
to come off, right, Beendorsbox.

872
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:40,079
Speaker 2: Yes, so sports. Eventually they feel confident enough to turn

873
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,800
it over to Chris List. They produced the album, they

874
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,159
distribute it, they support it. It's released September fifteenth of

875
00:42:46,199 --> 00:42:48,880
nineteen eighty three. It goes on to become the number

876
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,320
two overall selling album of nineteen eighty four. It's a

877
00:42:52,559 --> 00:42:55,800
smash hit, yes, and like you said, it's one of

878
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:57,960
only five albums in nineteen eighty four to reach the

879
00:42:58,039 --> 00:43:00,760
number one spot and one of the most competitive music

880
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:01,519
years of all time.

881
00:43:01,639 --> 00:43:05,559
Speaker 1: So they become obviously world famous within just a short

882
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:08,159
amount of time. Yeah. They have a guy who's their

883
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:11,760
tour manager called Loel Halsey, and he's got this real

884
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,039
Cockney accent. He's like, we go through all these special things,

885
00:43:15,079 --> 00:43:17,519
get the band back into the hotel, bring them in

886
00:43:17,559 --> 00:43:19,199
through the back door, get them in the back and

887
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:20,840
then hughe go down to the bar and have a

888
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:21,400
beer with all.

889
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 2: The fans and Jim Jurry.

890
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: So hughe is not you know, he's not a guy

891
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,480
who's afraid to just hang out. He's such just a

892
00:43:33,559 --> 00:43:35,039
regular guy kind of guy.

893
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,079
Speaker 2: It's so great. That's what his mass appeal is. You know,

894
00:43:38,199 --> 00:43:39,519
I don't know if this is the best place to

895
00:43:39,519 --> 00:43:42,039
tell the story. But it after sports kind of been

896
00:43:42,079 --> 00:43:45,320
mid nineteen eighty five, think back to the future time period, right,

897
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,239
Michael Jackson had pepsi commercials, right, and he was the

898
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,840
choice of a new generation whatever. Well, Coke came knocking

899
00:43:52,119 --> 00:43:55,559
on Huey Lewis's door and they had this scale that

900
00:43:55,639 --> 00:44:00,840
basically combined popularity and how likable you are, and Huey

901
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,960
Lewis basically was the highest you could possibly be on

902
00:44:04,039 --> 00:44:06,719
both charts. Oh wow, And Coke said, basically, we have

903
00:44:07,199 --> 00:44:11,039
a scale that we measure cokeness and so your top

904
00:44:11,119 --> 00:44:13,280
of the list cokenus wise, and they threw millions of

905
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,719
dollars on him and he said, nah, no thanks.

906
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:20,519
Speaker 1: So before we jump full on into the album, Yes,

907
00:44:20,599 --> 00:44:22,079
a couple of things that I want to just say

908
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:23,840
that happened after the album, but I want to say

909
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:28,400
them now. Okay, okay, Yes. Number one, Huey Lewis was

910
00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,960
one of the artists on We Are the World. I

911
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,000
know it's your favorite song, and I know you're talking,

912
00:44:34,079 --> 00:44:35,840
but I've got a little bit of information that I

913
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,159
thought was that priceless. He's one of the solos, he's

914
00:44:38,199 --> 00:44:40,440
one of the singing by himself, and you've got all

915
00:44:40,559 --> 00:44:43,119
kinds of people there singing, like the Pointer sisters didn't

916
00:44:43,119 --> 00:44:45,679
have any solos. Dan akroy didn't have any solos.

917
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:49,519
Speaker 2: Dan ackroyd how in the world did dan Akro get

918
00:44:49,559 --> 00:44:50,719
invited to this party?

919
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,039
Speaker 1: And so I heard him talking and he's like, They're like,

920
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:55,639
how did you get the solo in there? And he's like,

921
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,559
I got Prince's part? Oh? Is that right? Right? So

922
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,559
the part that Huey lewi Us sings was written for Prince.

923
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,119
The Prince didn't come, and it's higher, it's a higher

924
00:45:05,159 --> 00:45:06,920
you listen to it, it's a little higher register for

925
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,960
ye Okay, he sings right, think about it. He sings

926
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:15,239
to write after Michael Jackson sings, Wow, it's with Cindy

927
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:16,760
Lapper yep, and.

928
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

929
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,760
Speaker 1: It's great. But yeah, he got Prince's part of it.

930
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:24,519
Speaker 2: Interesting. Interesting, Any word on why Princeton.

931
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,039
Speaker 1: Show Probably because Michael Jackson was Probably because Michael Jackson

932
00:45:27,159 --> 00:45:27,960
is too competitive.

933
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:28,760
Speaker 2: Yea.

934
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:31,599
Speaker 1: I will find out the answer to that. I will

935
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find out the answer as to why Prince didn't sing

936
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on We of the World. But you're gonna have to

937
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wait until our Purple Rain episode. To find out.

938
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Speaker 2: Okay, great, that's awesome.

939
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 1: Okay, So nineteen eighty four, mind you, this is where

940
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we are is when they're filming Back to the Future.

941
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Speaker 2: Huge longest movie of the nineteen eighties.

942
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,079
Speaker 1: Right, And so Hue gets a call from this guy

943
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named Bob Zamechas who really hasn't done much other than

944
00:45:54,559 --> 00:45:56,800
the movie called Romancing the Stone at this point. Sure,

945
00:45:57,239 --> 00:45:59,360
and he goes He's like, we would love for you

946
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
to be a part of this movie. We think that

947
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,719
Marty McFly, our main character, that his favorite band is

948
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Huey lewis in the news, and somehow, with his hustle

949
00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:12,679
pivot fake fade away, he lands himself a part of

950
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the movie.

951
00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:16,079
Speaker 2: This guy's awesome.

952
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:18,519
Speaker 1: Yeah. What he says to him at the time, though,

953
00:46:18,639 --> 00:46:20,480
is I don't really want to write a song called

954
00:46:20,519 --> 00:46:22,360
back in the Future, right, And he's like, I don't

955
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,960
want you to write a song called back in the Future.

956
00:46:24,039 --> 00:46:26,000
I want you to write one of your songs and

957
00:46:26,039 --> 00:46:26,920
we're just going to use it.

958
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Speaker 2: That song is called Power of Love. Yes, And that

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00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,280
video was filmed at Uncle Charlie's, which was where he

960
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:34,800
got his start as the stage.

961
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:37,800
Speaker 1: Band exactly, and as it turned out. They released that

962
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,119
song before the movie came out, and it was topping

963
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the charts right when the movie was released. And so

964
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when you as a theater goer, imagine this, Yes, Marty says, damn,

965
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:54,280
I'm late for school and it hits. Yeah, everybody knew.

966
00:46:54,159 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 2: That song playing the number one song in the country.

967
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Speaker 1: It's perfect. And he did a movie. Hue Lewis did

968
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,679
a movie later on with Quyneth Paltrow, Yes, which also

969
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,800
had a fantastic song on it, but it didn't get

970
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,679
released until after the movie and the movie didn't do

971
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,679
so well. And he said, I think if they'd released

972
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the song before they released the movie, the movie would

973
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have done a lot better.

974
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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what. We've got a story about

975
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,880
another movie that Huge Lewis was involved with against his will,

976
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and there is money that there's some suits involved in.

977
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It was very unpleasant situation. Next week, so.

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Speaker 1: We're ready to jump in track by track.

979
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,599
Speaker 2: We are ready to jump in track by track next week.

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00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,559
Speaker 1: Next week, and that's when you'll hear the story of

981
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,800
the mysterious movie that stole he would lose his song

982
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:35,840
as though anybody

983
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,559
Speaker 2: Doesn't know, right, they totally slammed him on this thinge

984
00:47:39,599 --> 00:48:06,280
oh yeah,