WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:05.919 It's Nightside with Dan Ray. I'm w b Zkoston's new radio. 2 00:00:07.200 --> 00:00:09.560 Welcome back everyone. This is the nine o'clock hour. 3 00:00:09.679 --> 00:00:12.080 We will be taking phone calls with my guests, but 4 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:14.919 we probably aren't going to take phone calls until nine thirty, 5 00:00:15.000 --> 00:00:17.719 so just as a courtesy, if you want to call earlier, 6 00:00:17.719 --> 00:00:20.399 you ken. If you prefer to wait, that's okay as well. 7 00:00:21.280 --> 00:00:28.640 My guest is the newly appointed United States Attorney from Massachusetts, 8 00:00:29.239 --> 00:00:33.000 Leah Foley. Leah, thank you very much for being here tonight. 9 00:00:33.799 --> 00:00:38.719 I've interviewed a few US attorneys in my career here 10 00:00:38.799 --> 00:00:41.439 on Nightside, but it is always a special honor and 11 00:00:41.520 --> 00:00:46.039 privilege to speak with the United States Attorney from Massachusetts. 12 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:49.119 Welcome, thank you very much, thank you for having me. 13 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:52.759 I tell my friends that I think that the most 14 00:00:52.840 --> 00:00:56.679 important law enforcement officer in the car Wealth of Massachusetts 15 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:59.799 is not the Attorney General, but is the United States Attorney. 16 00:01:00.679 --> 00:01:02.880 I'm sure that there would be those in the attorney 17 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.599 in the Attorney General's officer might disagree, but you have 18 00:01:06.640 --> 00:01:12.959 an incredibly important job. How large is your office these days? 19 00:01:12.959 --> 00:01:16.840 How many attorneys and staff will you oversee in this position? 20 00:01:18.159 --> 00:01:23.400 So we have about two hundred thirty somewhat employees in 21 00:01:23.439 --> 00:01:30.879 the office, over one hundred criminal division attorneys and about 22 00:01:30.920 --> 00:01:34.560 twenty five civil division attorneys. 23 00:01:34.599 --> 00:01:39.840 And that's a pretty good sized law office. 24 00:01:40.040 --> 00:01:43.400 You have been You are not appointed out of the blue. 25 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:47.599 You have been here in the US Attorney's Office in 26 00:01:47.599 --> 00:01:51.319 Massachusetts for some time now. Just a little bit about 27 00:01:51.319 --> 00:01:54.079 your background before we get into some of the issues. 28 00:01:54.879 --> 00:01:58.319 I know that you're a graduate of loyal In Law School. 29 00:01:58.480 --> 00:02:02.920 You have a Bachelor of Wrought degree English philosophy in French. 30 00:02:03.439 --> 00:02:07.719 You didn't take the easy subjects like I did at 31 00:02:07.760 --> 00:02:12.280 the University of Louisiana at Lafayette, and also a Master 32 00:02:12.360 --> 00:02:15.680 of Laws degree from from the Georgetown University Law Center. 33 00:02:16.240 --> 00:02:18.560 Very impressive resume. How long have you been up here 34 00:02:18.840 --> 00:02:19.479 in New England. 35 00:02:20.680 --> 00:02:26.879 I first arrived in New England in October, I know, 36 00:02:26.919 --> 00:02:30.319 exactly October thirtieth of two thousand and five, after the 37 00:02:30.319 --> 00:02:31.360 birth of my first son. 38 00:02:32.080 --> 00:02:33.560 Wow, no, it's okay. 39 00:02:34.159 --> 00:02:37.719 That's what I started in the office in January of two. 40 00:02:37.599 --> 00:02:38.240 Thousand and six. 41 00:02:39.120 --> 00:02:43.800 And well, that's close to twenty years. And you have 42 00:02:44.479 --> 00:02:48.280 been in leadership in this office for some time. Obviously, 43 00:02:48.280 --> 00:02:51.159 you're in the top spot right now tell us about 44 00:02:51.159 --> 00:02:53.639 some of the positions of leadership, and because I think 45 00:02:53.680 --> 00:02:56.280 it will foreshadow the interest that we're going to talk about, 46 00:02:57.080 --> 00:02:59.840 that will probably typify your time as US. 47 00:02:59.680 --> 00:03:05.240 Aturned seven, two thousand and six. Until about twenty twelve, 48 00:03:05.319 --> 00:03:08.360 twenty thirteen, I was on the line. I was first 49 00:03:08.360 --> 00:03:10.400 in major crimes for about a year and a half 50 00:03:10.439 --> 00:03:14.639 and then I transferred to the Narcotics and Money Laundering Unit, 51 00:03:15.680 --> 00:03:20.599 and and then the twenty twelve twenty thirteen I took 52 00:03:20.840 --> 00:03:26.080 on the responsibility of being the Regional director for the 53 00:03:26.240 --> 00:03:31.439 Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force, which in government parlances 54 00:03:31.639 --> 00:03:38.639 osad F, and in that role, I was the coordinator 55 00:03:38.919 --> 00:03:44.360 of all of the federal drug trafficking investigations that were 56 00:03:44.400 --> 00:03:47.719 being conducted in the New England region. And I also 57 00:03:47.840 --> 00:03:53.560 became the lead Strikeforce attorney for the Boston Strikeforce, which 58 00:03:53.599 --> 00:04:00.560 is a federal task force compromise comprised of FBI DEA, 59 00:04:01.000 --> 00:04:06.599 HSI atf I r S and numerous local and state 60 00:04:06.759 --> 00:04:09.800 task force officers who are deputized to work on the 61 00:04:09.840 --> 00:04:11.599 federal investigations. 62 00:04:13.039 --> 00:04:16.519 Impressive resume. You guys have acronyms for everything, by. 63 00:04:16.439 --> 00:04:20.319 The way, I know, so annoying I know, no, no, no, I'm. 64 00:04:20.160 --> 00:04:20.920 Only teasing you. 65 00:04:21.040 --> 00:04:21.079 So. 66 00:04:21.680 --> 00:04:27.680 So you received your appointment on January twenty first, and 67 00:04:28.040 --> 00:04:32.879 shortly thereafter you held a news conference which a lot 68 00:04:32.920 --> 00:04:35.439 of people. It was the first impression, and if the 69 00:04:35.480 --> 00:04:38.000 first impression, if you only get one chance to make 70 00:04:38.319 --> 00:04:42.120 a first impression, as they say, you had the opportunity 71 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:45.079 to make a great first impression. This was a huge 72 00:04:46.439 --> 00:04:51.639 drug raid, arrests gang members up in the Lawrence Lowell 73 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:57.439 haveoral Areaario's reign of terror. Again, I know you've talked 74 00:04:57.439 --> 00:04:59.480 about it, and I know it's a pending case so 75 00:04:59.519 --> 00:05:01.199 you can't get into. 76 00:05:00.759 --> 00:05:01.399 A lot of it. 77 00:05:01.439 --> 00:05:03.839 But in terms of the news conference, there were twenty 78 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:08.680 two people and amongst them there were allegations besides you know, 79 00:05:09.160 --> 00:05:12.519 gang membership and drug dealing and all of that. Six 80 00:05:12.639 --> 00:05:17.959 murders and eleven attempted murders. I mean, talk about heavy duty. 81 00:05:18.240 --> 00:05:19.759 This is pretty heavy duty stuff. 82 00:05:20.439 --> 00:05:25.480 For a long time, my office has our gang unit, 83 00:05:25.600 --> 00:05:28.560 as I will call it, because the acronym is probably 84 00:05:28.639 --> 00:05:32.959 even more annoying than these upline. They have always done 85 00:05:33.000 --> 00:05:36.839 a tremendous job in working with local and federal law 86 00:05:36.920 --> 00:05:42.319 enforcement officers and district attorney offices across the commonwealth and 87 00:05:42.439 --> 00:05:49.639 identifying transnational organized gangs who are just wreaking havoc on 88 00:05:49.720 --> 00:05:54.680 communities and making it so unsafe for communities to operate 89 00:05:54.839 --> 00:05:57.800 in a day by day basis. People are afraid for 90 00:05:57.879 --> 00:06:01.040 their kids to walk to the school bus because gangs 91 00:06:01.120 --> 00:06:06.240 were reigning on the streets and firing at each other 92 00:06:08.439 --> 00:06:15.279 for the most ridiculous, petty reasons. And we partnered with 93 00:06:15.439 --> 00:06:19.040 our locals to put an end to it and to 94 00:06:19.120 --> 00:06:24.120 identify the most dangerous individuals who were involved in these 95 00:06:24.160 --> 00:06:26.240 gangs and take out their leadership. 96 00:06:27.879 --> 00:06:34.560 How how important in your opinion is partnership between not 97 00:06:34.600 --> 00:06:39.399 only you know, federal law enforcement, but state local law enforcement. 98 00:06:40.800 --> 00:06:43.800 None of us can do our jobs without each other. 99 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.480 We partner every single day with the local and state 100 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:52.519 law enforcement officers and troopers. 101 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:52.319 And. 102 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:57.639 No single agency can do its job, not FBI, not DEA, 103 00:06:57.839 --> 00:07:01.920 not ATF without the partnership at the Massachusetts State Police, 104 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:08.079 and without the partnership with all of the police offices 105 00:07:08.240 --> 00:07:09.639 in this commonwealth. 106 00:07:11.079 --> 00:07:13.199 As you know, there's. 107 00:07:13.399 --> 00:07:17.639 You're in Massachusetts, and when we get back, I'd like 108 00:07:17.720 --> 00:07:21.839 to talk about how you're going to try to forge 109 00:07:22.279 --> 00:07:26.759 relationships with people who are also in law enforcement or 110 00:07:26.800 --> 00:07:30.319 in government here in Massachusetts who might see the world 111 00:07:30.360 --> 00:07:34.160 a little differently, and I'd like to talk about that. 112 00:07:34.160 --> 00:07:34.959 That'll be interesting. 113 00:07:36.040 --> 00:07:38.600 Will here again. 114 00:07:38.720 --> 00:07:42.439 We won't take calls until nine thirty six, one, seven, two, five, four, 115 00:07:42.519 --> 00:07:44.360 ten thirty if you want to get on a little early. 116 00:07:44.800 --> 00:07:47.680 My guest is Leah Foley. She is the United States 117 00:07:47.680 --> 00:07:51.680 Attorney for Massachusetts and she has now been in the 118 00:07:51.720 --> 00:07:54.800 office just a little over a month. And having spoken 119 00:07:54.839 --> 00:07:58.199 with her this afternoon really for the first time, I 120 00:07:58.240 --> 00:08:00.959 think she's and you look at this rest she's very 121 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.920 ready for this job, I think the most important law 122 00:08:03.959 --> 00:08:07.720 enforcement job in the state and the Carmwalth of Massachusetts. 123 00:08:07.720 --> 00:08:10.480 Back on nightside right after this, bonded to have as 124 00:08:10.519 --> 00:08:14.560 a guest Leah Foley, the new recently appointed United States 125 00:08:14.639 --> 00:08:18.600 Attorney for the Calmwalth of Massachusetts, and we are talking 126 00:08:18.639 --> 00:08:22.959 about her priorities and what she is concerned about. 127 00:08:23.480 --> 00:08:24.560 One of the things that. 128 00:08:24.959 --> 00:08:29.079 You will have to do is deal you're the appointee 129 00:08:29.120 --> 00:08:33.720 of President Trump, who has made very clear what his 130 00:08:34.279 --> 00:08:39.080 position is towards things like illegal immigration, et cetera. And 131 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:43.120 we have some political leaders here in Massachusetts who probably 132 00:08:43.159 --> 00:08:47.720 see things somewhat differently. How difficult do you think is 133 00:08:47.759 --> 00:08:50.039 it going to be for you to interact with people 134 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:54.000 who maybe are not lawyers. In some cases, maybe they 135 00:08:54.080 --> 00:08:57.519 might be lawyers, but they do not probably have the 136 00:08:57.879 --> 00:08:59.759 prosecutorial mindset. 137 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:01.679 And I think most. 138 00:09:01.960 --> 00:09:05.279 Folks in the US Attorney's Office have the idea that 139 00:09:05.879 --> 00:09:08.960 use the office and use the law to get people 140 00:09:09.039 --> 00:09:14.440 who are dangerous off the streets and get civilians and 141 00:09:14.480 --> 00:09:18.320 people who are living by by the rules, allow them 142 00:09:18.360 --> 00:09:22.799 to have freedom twenty four to seven, to go to school, 143 00:09:22.879 --> 00:09:26.200 go to work, keep their kids safe. What sort of 144 00:09:26.799 --> 00:09:29.679 interactions do you think we are likely to see between 145 00:09:30.200 --> 00:09:35.159 federal agencies and state and local police agencies. 146 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.159 What do you hope for and how do you hope 147 00:09:39.200 --> 00:09:39.919 to accomplish that? 148 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:44.519 So I would like to start by saying, like we 149 00:09:44.639 --> 00:09:48.919 always try to find common ground, and in the fall, 150 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:54.720 even prior to the election, there seemed to be a 151 00:09:54.759 --> 00:10:02.240 consensus amongst politicians on both sides, Republican and Democrats, that 152 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:05.919 people who are in this country illegally, who have committed 153 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:14.039 crimes should be removed from the United States, and that consensus, 154 00:10:15.399 --> 00:10:18.320 you know, however, we ended up there there had been 155 00:10:18.360 --> 00:10:23.039 mistakes that had been made and it ended up that 156 00:10:23.120 --> 00:10:26.200 everyone seemed to be on the same page, and so 157 00:10:26.279 --> 00:10:29.679 we would like to stay on that same page and 158 00:10:29.759 --> 00:10:35.720 work to continue to build collaborations and more consensus in 159 00:10:35.799 --> 00:10:41.440 that we target the people who everyone seems to agree 160 00:10:41.639 --> 00:10:45.240 and at least the federal government has prioritized as being 161 00:10:45.320 --> 00:10:48.120 right for removal, and those are the people who are 162 00:10:48.120 --> 00:10:53.480 in this country illegally, who have committed crimes. And the 163 00:10:53.519 --> 00:11:00.360 focus of ICE and HSI up till now has been 164 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:07.519 on identifying, locating, and removing those individuals who make our 165 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:15.519 communities unsafe. And I hope that you know, unfortunately that 166 00:11:15.679 --> 00:11:20.480 is a very long list, but that is the group 167 00:11:21.039 --> 00:11:24.240 that right now, the agents who are on the streets 168 00:11:24.759 --> 00:11:29.639 every single day trying to make our community safer, our targeting. 169 00:11:30.240 --> 00:11:34.840 And so I say that everyone in the Commonwealth should 170 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:38.519 be grateful for the hard work that these men and 171 00:11:38.559 --> 00:11:43.320 women are doing every day, not to promote a political ideology, 172 00:11:43.799 --> 00:11:47.399 but simply to make our community safe. 173 00:11:48.159 --> 00:11:49.639 Leads me to two questions. 174 00:11:50.559 --> 00:11:56.120 Obviously, as I'm sure you know, the Boston Mayor, Michelle 175 00:11:56.120 --> 00:11:58.720 wou has been summoned to Washington and buy a House 176 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:05.200 committee to talk about this very subject. Homeland Security Director 177 00:12:05.919 --> 00:12:11.519 Holman has said that he's soon coming to Boston. How 178 00:12:12.399 --> 00:12:15.679 much do you feel you're going to find yourself involved 179 00:12:15.720 --> 00:12:19.000 in that or can you sort of remove yourself from 180 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:23.279 that apparent fight that's going on between you know, Tom 181 00:12:23.320 --> 00:12:27.399 Holman and officials at least in Boston, or do you 182 00:12:27.440 --> 00:12:29.279 see yourself that you have a role where maybe you 183 00:12:29.320 --> 00:12:32.399 can mediate this and get everybody on the same page. 184 00:12:33.679 --> 00:12:39.279 So ICE is an independent in law enforcement arm and 185 00:12:40.639 --> 00:12:45.440 they have their own priorities and they focus on their mission. 186 00:12:46.039 --> 00:12:51.440 We support their mission, which is when there are identified 187 00:12:51.480 --> 00:12:55.720 people in this country illegally to our subject to deportation, 188 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.039 we facilitate the court hearings or we bring the appropriate 189 00:12:59.159 --> 00:13:04.000 charges that are warranted for that particular arrest or detention. 190 00:13:06.240 --> 00:13:12.200 Mayor lou is a polished politician. She will be appearing 191 00:13:12.320 --> 00:13:16.960 on Capitol Hill. It'll be interesting to see what kind 192 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:23.360 of questions she's posed and answers she gives. But I 193 00:13:23.399 --> 00:13:28.080 don't believe any of these challenges or attacks or out 194 00:13:28.080 --> 00:13:33.960 of animosity. They are simply coming from our federal government 195 00:13:34.960 --> 00:13:41.759 to try to sway all local, state, federal politicians to 196 00:13:41.799 --> 00:13:44.440 get on the same page, which is we are trying 197 00:13:44.519 --> 00:13:47.399 to work together to promote public safety. 198 00:13:47.840 --> 00:13:51.080 All right, So this leads me to one separate final 199 00:13:51.159 --> 00:13:52.720 question on this, and then I'm going to move on. 200 00:13:53.600 --> 00:13:56.600 We talked about this last night. There was above the 201 00:13:56.639 --> 00:13:59.120 full piece of the Boston Globe yesterday by Sean Cotter, 202 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:03.039 who's spoke about and if you read it, great, If 203 00:14:03.080 --> 00:14:06.000 you didn't, that's okay. Talked about how there was different 204 00:14:06.039 --> 00:14:11.559 points of view that when someone is taken into custody 205 00:14:11.600 --> 00:14:14.799 and are here illegally, particularly if they have been charged 206 00:14:14.799 --> 00:14:17.600 with a serious crime, there's sort. 207 00:14:17.399 --> 00:14:19.159 Of the chicken and egg story. 208 00:14:20.000 --> 00:14:24.759 What takes precedent deportation or prosecution, particularly if it's a 209 00:14:24.799 --> 00:14:29.840 serious crime of violence against a US citizen or for 210 00:14:29.919 --> 00:14:33.519 that matter, someone who's not a US citizen, to simply 211 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:39.919 deport them without prosecuting them here and confining them here 212 00:14:41.960 --> 00:14:44.159 they you know, My view is they should pay their 213 00:14:44.159 --> 00:14:48.120 price here and not be deported, immediately serve the sentence, 214 00:14:48.200 --> 00:14:51.759 and then be deported. I'm just curious where you would 215 00:14:51.759 --> 00:14:54.120 stand on that. And in terms of the prosecution of 216 00:14:54.200 --> 00:14:58.159 someone who's here illegally and is then ultimately convicted of 217 00:14:58.200 --> 00:14:59.919 a serious violent crime. 218 00:15:00.600 --> 00:15:04.399 All right, So you talked about two parties involved in 219 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:09.919 that decision, people who have made arrests and people who 220 00:15:10.159 --> 00:15:17.639 have the mission of removing dangerous criminals. The party you've 221 00:15:17.720 --> 00:15:21.159 left out are the judges who decide whether a person 222 00:15:21.200 --> 00:15:26.919 should be held or released. And there are times where 223 00:15:27.399 --> 00:15:30.919 not commenting on any specific case whatsoever, because I did 224 00:15:30.919 --> 00:15:36.399 not read that article, but if BPD makes an arrest, 225 00:15:37.720 --> 00:15:45.080 Suffolk brings the defendant into an arraignment, they ask for detention, 226 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.639 and a judge releases the person and they're charged with 227 00:15:48.679 --> 00:15:53.399 a serious crime, whether it's drug trafficking, an armed robbery, 228 00:15:53.559 --> 00:15:57.720 a gun offense. And I also knows that this person 229 00:15:57.799 --> 00:16:02.840 is here illegally. They have of their mission is to 230 00:16:02.879 --> 00:16:07.840 protect Americans, and if a judge releases that person onto 231 00:16:07.879 --> 00:16:12.600 the streets, then I says no, like they have no choice. 232 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:16.000 They are going to do what is best for the community, 233 00:16:16.200 --> 00:16:19.080 which is to detain this person who is here illegally, 234 00:16:20.279 --> 00:16:25.480 and they can only hold that person so long because 235 00:16:25.519 --> 00:16:33.559 of resources, And so then they're faced with, you know, 236 00:16:33.600 --> 00:16:36.759 the choice, do we release them back onto the streets, 237 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:41.159 which they don't believe is safe for the community, or 238 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:49.000 do they remove them? And so it's a complicated and 239 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:55.039 again I believe that if there was more collaboration and collaboration, 240 00:16:55.399 --> 00:17:00.759 then possibly we could work to reduce these instances where, 241 00:17:01.559 --> 00:17:03.639 you know, ICE is made to look like the bad 242 00:17:03.720 --> 00:17:07.559 person because they're removing someone who is a danger to 243 00:17:07.640 --> 00:17:12.839 the community because that person is not being held and 244 00:17:13.480 --> 00:17:18.759 it's really not their fault and it's and it's you know, 245 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:22.480 for a host of reasons. A judge might have some 246 00:17:23.440 --> 00:17:27.720 reason to want to release this person. But in this 247 00:17:28.240 --> 00:17:33.160 it's so fast paced and you're making decisions, you know, 248 00:17:33.759 --> 00:17:36.559 on the fly a lot of times, but based on 249 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:40.920 factual information that you have. This person has a prior conviction, 250 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:46.440 this person failed to report for an ICE meeting in 251 00:17:46.559 --> 00:17:52.400 order to you know, litigate their status to be here. 252 00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:56.960 There's so many variables in moving parts that the ICE 253 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:01.880 agents really their sole responsibility is to remove people who 254 00:18:01.920 --> 00:18:06.680 are danger to the community. And some people might argue, well, 255 00:18:06.680 --> 00:18:09.480 look at all these other factors that make them not 256 00:18:09.599 --> 00:18:13.839 a danger, but they don't have the opportunity to reflect 257 00:18:13.960 --> 00:18:18.640 on that. They know what they know and they act 258 00:18:18.799 --> 00:18:22.720 in the best of the interests of the community. 259 00:18:22.839 --> 00:18:26.480 Well said I guess the US attorney Lea Foley. I 260 00:18:26.480 --> 00:18:28.519 got a couple of other questions, and then we're going 261 00:18:28.559 --> 00:18:30.039 to go to phone calls. So if you want to 262 00:18:30.119 --> 00:18:32.000 join us folks six one, seven, two, five, four to 263 00:18:32.079 --> 00:18:35.799 ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty, 264 00:18:35.880 --> 00:18:39.279 we'll be back with the new US Attorney, Lea Foley. 265 00:18:39.400 --> 00:18:42.359 Your calls and questions, more questions from me as well. 266 00:18:42.440 --> 00:18:47.519 Right after the break, we're talking with US Attorney Leah Foley. Lea, 267 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:50.599 I just want to change topics for one second. There's 268 00:18:50.640 --> 00:18:54.880 a there's a big criminal case going on that is 269 00:18:54.880 --> 00:18:58.119 a is a state prosecution, not a federal prosecution. It's 270 00:18:58.119 --> 00:19:00.920 the Karen Read case. I'm sure you have familiar with it. 271 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:05.119 And apparently there have been some reporting that the US 272 00:19:05.160 --> 00:19:13.039 Attorney's office has closed an investigation into that case, and 273 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:18.240 there's some suggestions that that there were even maybe officials 274 00:19:18.240 --> 00:19:20.720 in your office. Of course, you're the top official in 275 00:19:20.759 --> 00:19:26.240 your office. Can you tell us what the status at 276 00:19:26.319 --> 00:19:30.039 all or if there even is an investigation that has 277 00:19:30.319 --> 00:19:33.240 that has been conducted regarding this case. 278 00:19:34.240 --> 00:19:37.440 So I'm bound by d o J rules that prohibit 279 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:41.359 me from confirming or denying the existence for the federal 280 00:19:41.359 --> 00:19:50.680 engation investigation, and that's just the rule. So I can't confirm, 281 00:19:51.519 --> 00:19:54.480 but I can say it would not be unusual for 282 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.720 us to speak with our partners or law enforcement to 283 00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:03.039 law enforcement partners about investigations, so it. 284 00:20:03.000 --> 00:20:04.799 Would not be you said. I think you said it 285 00:20:04.839 --> 00:20:07.319 would not be unusual, correct, I just want to make 286 00:20:07.319 --> 00:20:08.200 sure I heard it correctly. 287 00:20:09.279 --> 00:20:15.559 When we are involved in an investigation with partners in 288 00:20:15.680 --> 00:20:18.960 local law enforcement or other federal agencies, it is not 289 00:20:19.200 --> 00:20:22.200 unusual for us to speak about investigations. 290 00:20:22.279 --> 00:20:22.599 Okay. 291 00:20:23.680 --> 00:20:26.799 And then what I'd like to do is go to 292 00:20:26.839 --> 00:20:31.359 phone calls and I'm going to ask my listeners, my 293 00:20:31.480 --> 00:20:35.039 callers to ask questions. We're really not looking for speeches. 294 00:20:35.079 --> 00:20:41.079 If you want to wish the new US attorney, you know, 295 00:20:41.319 --> 00:20:45.079 good luck in her work. The one thing which I 296 00:20:45.079 --> 00:20:46.960 wanted to mention was I heard a story today, and 297 00:20:47.440 --> 00:20:50.160 I don't know if this is well. I think it's 298 00:20:50.160 --> 00:20:55.119 true that in some parts of the country, some of 299 00:20:55.160 --> 00:20:59.839 the people who perceive themselves as working to protect the 300 00:21:00.039 --> 00:21:05.880 deportation of illegal immigrants have actually begun putting up posters 301 00:21:05.880 --> 00:21:09.799 of ICE officers with their names and addresses and home 302 00:21:09.839 --> 00:21:15.039 phone numbers. Have you heard of this going on specifically 303 00:21:15.079 --> 00:21:16.279 in southern California. 304 00:21:17.680 --> 00:21:20.799 I have heard about it, and I find it to 305 00:21:20.839 --> 00:21:29.880 be despicable. It's targeting members of law enforcement community who 306 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:35.119 are charged with doing a job, for upholding the laws 307 00:21:35.160 --> 00:21:39.160 of the United States, and to intimidate them to not 308 00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:43.759 do their jobs. And I find that I don't find 309 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:47.680 there to be any justification for that and no excuse 310 00:21:47.759 --> 00:21:50.839 for it. 311 00:21:51.880 --> 00:21:54.160 Would that be tolerated in this? 312 00:21:54.519 --> 00:21:58.039 Is there any sort of a I'm sure that the 313 00:21:58.079 --> 00:22:00.640 ACLU will say, Oh, that's just the matter of speech. 314 00:22:00.839 --> 00:22:04.000 Putting up people's names and addresses. Uh, you know, it's 315 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:10.720 basically outing people, if you will. I think the term 316 00:22:10.799 --> 00:22:14.759 is called doxing, if I'm not mistaken right, And I'd. 317 00:22:14.599 --> 00:22:18.039 Say that a few years ago, when other groups were 318 00:22:18.160 --> 00:22:23.200 putting the names and home addresses for abortion doctors online 319 00:22:23.440 --> 00:22:26.640 and making that public, I don't think the ACLUS stood 320 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:27.599 up for them. 321 00:22:27.839 --> 00:22:29.559 Yeah, you do. 322 00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:33.960 Not try to incite violence. It is it is inexcusable 323 00:22:35.160 --> 00:22:37.319 just to promote a political ideology. 324 00:22:39.640 --> 00:22:40.079 Perfect. 325 00:22:40.400 --> 00:22:41.880 Let's go to a phone call. It's going to start 326 00:22:41.920 --> 00:22:45.400 off with Justin in Marlboro. Justin, you were first tonight 327 00:22:45.440 --> 00:22:48.079 with Leofold, the US attorney from Massachusetts. 328 00:22:48.079 --> 00:22:50.880 Go right ahead, Justin, what's your question or compa Hello? 329 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:53.920 US attorneys. I wana thank you for being an attorney, 330 00:22:54.680 --> 00:22:56.720 because this seems a good job that you may feel 331 00:22:56.759 --> 00:23:00.240 like sisifus and I wish you the best. And I 332 00:23:00.279 --> 00:23:03.720 wanted to just make one observation. This is the biggest 333 00:23:03.880 --> 00:23:06.319 court case that Kel and me case in Soco and 334 00:23:06.400 --> 00:23:11.079 Vendetti one hundred years ago, and the d A. Morsy 335 00:23:11.119 --> 00:23:14.200 has never gone into the courtroom. It seems very odd. 336 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.799 Yeah, again, Justin, I know you've hung on a long time. 337 00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:22.640 I've asked that question, and I don't think that that 338 00:23:22.720 --> 00:23:27.039 the US attorney is comfortable in going down any line 339 00:23:27.039 --> 00:23:27.599 of questioning. 340 00:23:27.680 --> 00:23:28.359 To be honest with. 341 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:31.440 You, I just wanted to I just want to make observation. 342 00:23:33.519 --> 00:23:38.519 Yeah, I will say that the district attorneys can go 343 00:23:38.559 --> 00:23:40.880 into court rooms and sometimes they don't go into court rooms. 344 00:23:40.920 --> 00:23:43.039 I've covered a lot of trials and in my career, 345 00:23:43.119 --> 00:23:46.160 so I don't read anything into that, but you certainly 346 00:23:46.240 --> 00:23:47.039 can if you would like. 347 00:23:47.240 --> 00:23:48.640 Thanks, Justin. I appreciate your call. 348 00:23:48.720 --> 00:23:49.039 Thank you. 349 00:23:49.519 --> 00:23:51.880 Thanks to talk to you soon. Let me go next 350 00:23:51.880 --> 00:23:56.160 to Kelly down to the Cape in Harwich. Kelly, you're 351 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:57.079 next on night side. 352 00:23:58.240 --> 00:24:00.119 I'm ganically Kerry. 353 00:24:00.599 --> 00:24:02.680 Hi, Kelly, how are you say? How to US attorney 354 00:24:02.680 --> 00:24:06.559 Fowld I know to me Kerrie Kerrie, Okay, well it's 355 00:24:06.559 --> 00:24:09.440 come up. It's no problem, Kerrie. I'm sorry it is 356 00:24:09.480 --> 00:24:11.640 written as Kelly, but it's Kerry. Go right ahead, Kerry 357 00:24:11.680 --> 00:24:15.079 wish your question of comments for the US attorney. 358 00:24:15.319 --> 00:24:22.119 Well, congratulations, madam attorneys US attorney. How do you deal 359 00:24:22.240 --> 00:24:28.039 with a local ring of terror? Do you take referrals 360 00:24:28.079 --> 00:24:33.359 from private citizens? Or I have grown up that chain 361 00:24:33.519 --> 00:24:37.400 of command as far as I can get, including and 362 00:24:37.519 --> 00:24:42.640 not limited to Governor Healy. I'm not getting what I 363 00:24:42.759 --> 00:24:47.279 need done? How can I get you involved? At one point, 364 00:24:47.440 --> 00:24:53.519 I believe her name was attorney US attorney Courtese Courtes. 365 00:24:53.680 --> 00:24:56.920 I don't remember her last name exactly, but I did 366 00:24:57.000 --> 00:25:00.400 get an opportunity to speak to her and she get 367 00:25:00.480 --> 00:25:05.480 know about this case in ut And let me. 368 00:25:05.440 --> 00:25:07.680 Ask you this carry. Is this a civil case or 369 00:25:07.680 --> 00:25:14.359 a criminal case? In your opinion? Both both? Okay? 370 00:25:14.359 --> 00:25:23.240 While I can say that we receive cases through our 371 00:25:23.319 --> 00:25:29.799 law enforcement partners, which are either local, state or federal investigators, 372 00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:35.759 and so I would just refer you to them. They 373 00:25:35.759 --> 00:25:38.200 are the ones to investigate cases, and then we are 374 00:25:38.240 --> 00:25:42.839 the ones who joined the investigation and prosecute cases if 375 00:25:42.839 --> 00:25:44.519 there are violations of federal law. 376 00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:50.160 Oh glare while you're tapping. There's all kinds of things, cyber. 377 00:25:51.039 --> 00:25:51.240 You know. 378 00:25:51.440 --> 00:25:56.079 The thing is, I think, Carrie, Carrie, I don't know 379 00:25:56.119 --> 00:25:59.920 that we can litigate that here. Uh now, I understand 380 00:26:00.119 --> 00:26:02.559 if you want to call me off ear sometime I'll 381 00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:07.200 be happy to try to guide you or direct you 382 00:26:07.559 --> 00:26:09.319 in a way that it might get you. 383 00:26:09.240 --> 00:26:09.880 On the right track. 384 00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:12.880 Okay, okay, great, thank you so much. 385 00:26:13.119 --> 00:26:15.680 All right, thanks, Gerry, have a great night. Let me 386 00:26:15.680 --> 00:26:17.799 get one more call in here before the break. Let 387 00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:19.920 me go to Bill and Lawrence. Bill, you were next 388 00:26:19.960 --> 00:26:23.359 on Nightside. Go right ahead, US attorney Lea Foley, go 389 00:26:23.480 --> 00:26:23.799 right ahead. 390 00:26:23.799 --> 00:26:27.200 Bill, Hi, good evening, Dan, thanks again for a wonderful 391 00:26:27.240 --> 00:26:30.960 show as usual. Welcome madam attorney. Good luck or as 392 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:38.039 we say, Lawrence, well, I mean you can have your 393 00:26:38.039 --> 00:26:40.640 hands full. It's a breath of fresh air seeing this 394 00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:43.920 new administration put a US attorney and that already is 395 00:26:43.960 --> 00:26:47.079 generating a lot of press releases. And I subscribe to 396 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:53.480 your daily newsbort. Is there any way I'll cut right 397 00:26:53.519 --> 00:26:56.880 to the chase we had recently, Lawrence, and it happens 398 00:26:56.960 --> 00:26:59.319 quite a bit there was a fentonyl mill, a major 399 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:02.720 fidel mill was busted, and it was in your news reports. 400 00:27:03.160 --> 00:27:05.680 The local paper parrots it and waters it down and 401 00:27:05.759 --> 00:27:08.599