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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Big Blue and Sider Dick Gabriel with

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<v Speaker 1>you on a Monday edition of our program. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be with you till seven thirty. That's when we will

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<v Speaker 1>make way for the Nick Menze own Show with Darren Hedrick,

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<v Speaker 1>the radio voice of the baseball Wildcats, and of course,

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<v Speaker 1>lots to talk about with the UK head coach. Because

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky knocked off Tennessee convincingly on Sunday, the rubber game

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<v Speaker 1>of a three game set and clinched the series victory

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<v Speaker 1>over the Volunteers. Ranked second, ranked fourth, whatever poll you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at, d won Baseball I think has them second.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a huge series win for the Wildcats, only Kentucky's

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<v Speaker 1>second series win of the year. And what's weird about it,

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<v Speaker 1>They've both been on the road against really good teams

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<v Speaker 1>and Tennessee one of the best in the country. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats, who had an early lead as usual on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>lost the opener, bounced back in one on Saturday thanks

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<v Speaker 1>to an incredible pitching for performance by Nick McKay, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Ben Cleaver followed up with another great performance. Cleaver

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<v Speaker 1>went seven innings, gave up just a two run homer

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<v Speaker 1>walked only one, struck out seven. Simon Gregorson closed things

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<v Speaker 1>out with a pair of scoreless innings, and between the

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<v Speaker 1>two of them Clever and McKay fourteen and two thirds innings,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave up just three runs, one of them was

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<v Speaker 1>unearned on seven hits. They walked only four and struck

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<v Speaker 1>out nineteen. When you have a strikeout to walk ratio

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<v Speaker 1>like that, you've got a big chance at winning, no

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<v Speaker 1>matter who you're playing, no matter where you're playing. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats come back home now for a non conference game,

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get any easier, though, Louisville's coming tomorrow night. But

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<v Speaker 1>UK now twenty two and fifteen, eight and ten in

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<v Speaker 1>the SEC. Those were two huge quadrant wins. When you

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<v Speaker 1>look ahead to the nca tournament, Yeah, Kentucky's had a

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<v Speaker 1>lead and they played eighteen SEC games. The Wildcats they've

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<v Speaker 1>led in seventeen of them. They've only been able to

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<v Speaker 1>hang on to eight for wins. But that tells you

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<v Speaker 1>how close they are. And you saw what they could

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<v Speaker 1>do if they executed for the most part over the weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they did not bunt well again, they could they

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<v Speaker 1>could have. I don't know if they would have won

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<v Speaker 1>Friday would have given themselves a better chance. But they

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<v Speaker 1>could have blown Tennessee out really Saturday and Sunday if

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<v Speaker 1>they had just executed with bunts. They keep bunting back

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<v Speaker 1>to the pitcher. Now, there was a great bunt, more

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<v Speaker 1>than one laid down yesterday, and we'll get back to

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<v Speaker 1>that in a minute. But what really helped the Wildcats

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<v Speaker 1>was running on the base. Pats at Tennessee just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even seem interested in trying to stop them. Kentucky yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>was six or seven in steals, sixteen of eighteen over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, and it was just phenomenal how many bases

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats picked up. We'll talk to Darren Hedrick Moore

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<v Speaker 1>about that a little bit later on in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>But again, Kentucky Louisville tomorrow night, six point thirty start.

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<v Speaker 1>Darren has the pregame at six point fifteen and you'll

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<v Speaker 1>hear it right here. Doug Flinn and I will have

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<v Speaker 1>it for you on SEC Plus so you can watch

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<v Speaker 1>it on your mobile device and you can listen as

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<v Speaker 1>well right here on WLAP. Some other UK news over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend, A little bit of recruiting news for you.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably already have heard that Kentucky maybe now is

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<v Speaker 1>done with the portal as it comes to running backs.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Stoops and his staff got another commitment, the third

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<v Speaker 1>of its type in the spring transfer portal cycle on

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<v Speaker 1>Easter Sunday, Seth McGowan of New Mexico State is transferring

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<v Speaker 1>to Kentucky. Three star transfer rated as the number twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five best running back in the portal six one two

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<v Speaker 1>twenty as one year of eligibility. He's from Mesquite, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a suburb of Dallas. McCowan originally signed with Oklahoma

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<v Speaker 1>as a four star kid coming out of high school.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Bullwear who's now at UK, of course as the

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<v Speaker 1>running backs coach, was his primary recruiter. According to Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Gershan of the Cats Baws, when the kids signed with Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>so as a freshman, ran for three seventy three touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 1>averaged six and a half yards per carry, and caught

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<v Speaker 1>thirteen passes out of the backfield. Then he ran into

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<v Speaker 1>some personal problems, some off the field issues with legal

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<v Speaker 1>things and did not play football for a couple of years.

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<v Speaker 1>Worked through all of that, served a year of probation,

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<v Speaker 1>and came back and played at Butler Community College. In Elder, Kansas,

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<v Speaker 1>then bounced to New Mexico State last year and now

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<v Speaker 1>he's a Wildcat. And by the way, he played behind

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky's offensive tackle, the huge Chiaz Pete, and ran for

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<v Speaker 1>eight hundred and twenty three yards one hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>two carries, three touchdowns, twenty three catches, and three receiving touchdowns.

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<v Speaker 1>Second team All Conference USA. So another running back for

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<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats in the fold and that's an area where

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<v Speaker 1>the Cats definitely needed some added depth. No news as

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<v Speaker 1>we speak on basketball transfers. Oh yeah, one more a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of football news. Kentucky's going after a kid named

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<v Speaker 1>Keelan Marion. He's a wide receiver kick returner from Brigham

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<v Speaker 1>Young entered the portal on Saturday and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>schools won in Arkansas, Arizona State, SMU, Oklahoma, Miami. He's

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<v Speaker 1>from Lawrenceville, Georgia, and originally signed with Yukon broke his

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<v Speaker 1>collarbone when he was up there, entered the portal, landed

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<v Speaker 1>at BYU, put up good numbers, then jump back into

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<v Speaker 1>the portal. Now Kentucky's already signed four wide receiver transfers

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<v Speaker 1>here in the off season. Kendrick Law looked pretty good

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring, Troy Stillado from Clemson, JJ Hester from Oklahoma,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course they just got Harley Gilmour back from Nebraska.

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<v Speaker 1>Still waiting to hear about True Edwards from Louisiana Tech,

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<v Speaker 1>but everything I've heard about him is not good that

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<v Speaker 1>they probably will not get him. So anyhow, nothing new

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<v Speaker 1>on the basketball front as we speak. Once again, we

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<v Speaker 1>pre record, so things may have happened before you guys

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<v Speaker 1>hear this. After I get done putting the show together,

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<v Speaker 1>I will tell you this. Tennessee just got a lot better.

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee signed a top five forward, Nate Ament. He is

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<v Speaker 1>the highest rank recruit of the Internet rankings era for

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<v Speaker 1>Tennessee and Rick Barnes. He throws the balls over UK, Arkansas, Duke,

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<v Speaker 1>and Louisville, which should tell you something. Keep in mind,

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<v Speaker 1>there was no Internet ranking system when Tennessee signed Alan

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<v Speaker 1>Houston or Dale Ellis or Bernie or Ernie, so it

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<v Speaker 1>makes you know, technically makes this guy the highest rated

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<v Speaker 1>recruit they ever gotten. Now, all of those guys I

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<v Speaker 1>just mentioned had great college careers and really good pro careers,

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll see what this kid does. We'll see if

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<v Speaker 1>he stays more than a year. He's six foot nine

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<v Speaker 1>from Warrenton, Virginia and his highest ranked player to commit

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<v Speaker 1>to Rick Barnes since Barnes got to Knoxville. So, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, they got better. And his quote is Rick

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<v Speaker 1>Barnes wants me to come in and take what's mine,

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<v Speaker 1>wants me to be the Nasmith Player of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>and all that said, he's done it before with Kevin Durant.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said, guys like Chaslanier and Dalton connect. So

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<v Speaker 1>he said, tremendous success with individual players. That's what a

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<v Speaker 1>men said. So it's a good get for Tennessee. Makes

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<v Speaker 1>life a little tougher for everybody else in the Southeastern Conference.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we hit the break at tip of the BBI

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<v Speaker 1>captain Mitchell Daily, the former Wildcat. Remember he played three

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<v Speaker 1>seasons for the Texas Longhorns transferred to Kentucky. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a key element in the Wildcats run to Omaha. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>remember he had the home run that basically won the

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<v Speaker 1>game for the Wildcats, not basically it over NC State.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Nicholson tied the game in the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>ninth and then Daily's home run his seventh of that season.

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<v Speaker 1>Won the game for the Wildcats, gave Kentucky's first College

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<v Speaker 1>World Series victory, and Daily, of course, drafted by the

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles Angels. He's been promoted to Triple A. He

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<v Speaker 1>was playing for Empire in the Class A League, the

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<v Speaker 1>High eighth League, and it was kind of odd because

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<v Speaker 1>he was only batting one to eighty one. So he

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<v Speaker 1>might have been moved up just because they need an infielder.

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<v Speaker 1>He's listed as a second basement, third baseman and shortstop.

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<v Speaker 1>But whatever, he's in a good spot right now. That

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<v Speaker 1>proves that he's on their map. He's on their radar,

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<v Speaker 1>and they like him. And what's not the like? And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you this, Salt Lake City has got a

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<v Speaker 1>great ballpark. He's got an incredible view of the mountains.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Flynn and I did a minor league game there

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<v Speaker 1>ten years ago and it is spectacular, you know. And

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<v Speaker 1>you're sitting there behind home plate and looking out. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they're the Wahsatch Mountains. Pretty cool. So I hope

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<v Speaker 1>he gets a chance to show himself and prove himself

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<v Speaker 1>at the TRIPAA level. So good luck to Mitchell. Daily.

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<v Speaker 1>Back in just a minute to talk baseball with Darren Headrick.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit later Ken Spencer talking Kentucky football in

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<v Speaker 1>six thirty WLAP Welcome back to the Big Blue Insider.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up in a few minutes, Darren Headrick, the boys

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<v Speaker 1>of UK Baseball. We'll talk with us about the great

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<v Speaker 1>weekend the Wildcats turned in down in Knoxville, and a

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<v Speaker 1>with us about college football and the Wildcats. But I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to talk a little bit about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that happened over the weekend, and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was a golf tournament won by a Kentucky and JT

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Thomas, who took the RBC Heritage Championship at Harbor

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<v Speaker 1>Town and he needed a playoff to beat Andrew Novak

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<v Speaker 1>and it ended a three year drought for the Louisville

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<v Speaker 1>Natyve went to sin X and interestingly, as he was

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<v Speaker 1>walking up to the eighteenth green at Harbortown in the

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<v Speaker 1>playoff with Novak, he said to his caddy, Joe Griner,

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<v Speaker 1>he said, I've never made a putt basically of any

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<v Speaker 1>length to win in the final hole. He's had some

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<v Speaker 1>tap ins for victories, He's won fifteen events, but He's

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<v Speaker 1>never had anything longer than fourteen feet four inches. That's

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<v Speaker 1>how long his winning putt was in twenty nineteen at

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<v Speaker 1>the BMW Championship. Now he won that by three shots,

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<v Speaker 1>so he did drain the long putt to win the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament to end the tournament, but that wasn't with the

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<v Speaker 1>tournament on the line. The longest putt he had ever

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<v Speaker 1>made came back in twenty fifteen, he hit a four

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<v Speaker 1>footer to win his first PGA Championship. But yesterday Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas dropped in a putt of twenty one feet two inches.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the way Jim Nance called it on CBS.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it the winning putt?

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<v Speaker 3>Here it comes, Yes, it is Justin Thomas.

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<v Speaker 1>Back to the winner circle. The tears are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be pouring.

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<v Speaker 2>He's got his first win as a father.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, his wife was there with the new child

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<v Speaker 1>and his dad and it was pretty dramatic. But what's

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<v Speaker 1>interesting as well in the follow up coverage was a

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<v Speaker 1>story about the fact that he went to Xander Shoffley

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<v Speaker 1>last year. Thomas had lost his touch, his putting touch,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eighteen. Back then and he just wasn't putting very well.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes to Xander Shoffley, who is known as

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<v Speaker 1>one of the best putters in the game. Thomas had

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<v Speaker 1>he dropped the one seventh and strokes gained putting last season.

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<v Speaker 1>So he goes to Shoffley, say's going to pick your brain.

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<v Speaker 1>They went out to the range and for two or

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<v Speaker 1>three hours they just plotted golf balls and talked fundamentals,

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<v Speaker 1>and Thomas said he realized he just had to get

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<v Speaker 1>He was overthinking, I guess and so many people in

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<v Speaker 1>even though he went to San x congratulations to at Kentuckian.

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<v Speaker 1>Justin Thomas for a big day at Harbor Town with

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<v Speaker 1>A bogie free sixty eight. Not a bad day. And

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<v Speaker 1>how about this a check for three point six million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>That'll work. Lots of NBA coverage over the weekend, and

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<v Speaker 1>which is named for Keem Elijah On. Not a bad choice,

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<v Speaker 1>hell of a defensive player. And he played with Kenny

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<v Speaker 1>of those Capital one commercials. They referenced that. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>a good sport about it, but he's always needling Kenny

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<v Speaker 3>This is and this is appropriate because it's the chem

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<v Speaker 2>Who got you your two trophies, who got you.

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<v Speaker 4>Silence, silence, silence, Golden who helped you winning championship.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody thank you. It's always funny when they get into it.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do remember Barkley criticized. I don't remember who

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<v Speaker 1>weekend somebody posted from the SEC office on one of

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<v Speaker 1>Yesterday was Steve Spurrier's birthday. And of course he's one

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<v Speaker 1>of those guys UK fans love to hate. But I

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<v Speaker 1>fans who loved hating Spurrier. And there was a segment

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<v Speaker 1>on a piece about Spurrier that runs about three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>long about how and why Pete disliked Spurrier. It included

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<v Speaker 1>a segment from an interview he did many many years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the nineties. I guess was Roy Firestone, who

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<v Speaker 1>antics Spurrier would pull at times. You say stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>it speaks of vanity, and it speaks of a lack

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<v Speaker 1>of humility, ego, paranoid, cocky, arrogant. Sometimes I dig at

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<v Speaker 2>FSU Freeshoes University.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a low blow. What's wrong with that? What's wrong

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<v Speaker 1>with that is that really nobody else was a brutally

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<v Speaker 1>frank or honest, you know, with their opinions, with their

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<v Speaker 1>not bragging if you can back it up. And Spurriyer,

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<v Speaker 1>I had great teams in the nineties, won a national

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<v Speaker 1>championship in ninety six, probably should have won more than one,

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<v Speaker 1>to run it up. He hated Bill Curry, and he

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<v Speaker 1>comment about some of the and that's not the only

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<v Speaker 1>comment he made about Kentucky or other teams. I've been

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<v Speaker 1>accused of saying things right after games that some people

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<v Speaker 1>were interpreted the wrong ways. How else are you going

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<v Speaker 1>to interpret something like that? For instance, there are people

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<v Speaker 1>in Knoxville who can't stand him, couldn't back then, still can't.

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<v Speaker 1>And Pat Dooley, the longtime beat writer for the Gainesville Son,

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<v Speaker 1>talked about that in the piece, and then it was

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<v Speaker 3>I remember going to Knoxville in ninety six, went and

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<v Speaker 3>it was just nasty. Spur didn't like it. I'd written

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<v Speaker 3>that story. He goes, what'd you go find some guys

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<v Speaker 3>under a bridge to write that story? And I'm like, no, coach,

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<v Speaker 3>people don't like you?

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<v Speaker 2>How good you like him? When he making comments like

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<v Speaker 2>you can't spell stitchers without ut They saying, yeah, Tennessee's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna win eleven games, but they're gonna lose to us

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<v Speaker 2>and end up in the Sitters Ball and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be in a national championship. Stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't forget. That's peerless Price, a really good receiver

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<v Speaker 1>at Tennessee on some really good teams, but they just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't get it done because back then Florida was better.

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<v Speaker 1>And through that piece, they had a shot of Peyton

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<v Speaker 1>Manning back when he was playing for Tennessee, just this

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<v Speaker 1>find that piece, go to Twitter and type in sec

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<v Speaker 1>and it'll come up for you. But it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of entertaining, but you can understand clearly why people just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't like Spurrier. But man could he coach college football,

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<v Speaker 1>not in the pros, but college football at a place

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<v Speaker 1>and he did a great job down there. Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>can understand it all right. Coming up next, we'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky Baseball with Darren Hedrick on six point thirty WLAP

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the bag Bloon. Coming up at seven thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the Nick Benji Own Show, hosted by our own

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<v Speaker 1>Darren Headrick. Our own because he of course is the

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<v Speaker 1>highline back from his native state of Tennessee, his alma mater,

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<v Speaker 1>ut but he is the voice of the Wildcats. And

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<v Speaker 1>had you had a good time of the weekend, didn't you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you saw family, friends and some Kentucky wins,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, no question, Gabe. It was a terrific weekend to

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<v Speaker 2>go back home and see some family and like you say,

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<v Speaker 2>just kind of have a little mini vacation over the weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but also going to the ballpark every day and seeing

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky come away with a huge series win over a

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<v Speaker 2>very talented Tennessee team, and man I just got finished

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<v Speaker 2>talking with Coach Minzion and what a pitching performance they

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna hear the Nick Minji Oones show, as I said,

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<v Speaker 1>coming up at seven thirty. But let's start with that pitching,

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<v Speaker 1>because it was good on Friday, not quite good enough,

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<v Speaker 1>the bullpen came through both times as well, didn't it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they did, And I mean you've got to start

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<v Speaker 2>with Nick McKay on Saturday, seven and two thirds, twelve strikeout,

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<v Speaker 2>one unearned run allowed. And then that followed over Ben

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<v Speaker 2>Cleever on Sunday when seven innings, only gave up a

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<v Speaker 2>couple of runs and just a phenomenal effort. And I

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<v Speaker 2>really think it started for them with the fastball. And

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<v Speaker 2>this is something that I talked to Coach Menzion and

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<v Speaker 2>Coach Rozel about and from the press box it made

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<v Speaker 2>the breaking pitches from both of those guys. And then

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<v Speaker 2>you mentioned the bullpen. It's been great to see Simon

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<v Speaker 2>Gregorson in the month of April turn into the guy

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<v Speaker 2>that we thought he would be when he transferred here

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<v Speaker 2>from Indiana State. You know, Evan Byers made another appearance

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<v Speaker 2>for the Wildcats over the weekend. Robert Hogan, I'll say this,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of got lost because it was in a

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<v Speaker 2>defeat on Friday, but Hogan went two innings to finish

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<v Speaker 2>that game, only allowing a run. And if he gets

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<v Speaker 2>in Simon Gregorson looking like he has in recent weeks,

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<v Speaker 2>the dynamics of this bullpen completely changes and Kentucky all

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<v Speaker 2>of a sudden becomes a far more dangerous team than

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<v Speaker 1>There's no question, excuse me, And because Hogan and Gregorson

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are. With Hogan, you start off he obviously

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<v Speaker 2>everything flows off a fastball for any pitcher, but with Hogan,

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<v Speaker 2>that slider in particular can look like two different pitches.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be firm, or he can throw it more

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<v Speaker 2>like a slurve, if you will, a softer breaking pitch,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the rate on his breaking ball is a

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<v Speaker 2>But again, everything starts with that fastball for Simon, and

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's back up to when they got there Friday night,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course, once again the Wildcats take the lead.

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<v Speaker 1>But going in we talked about as you and me

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<v Speaker 1>and yeah, Tennessee, you got some long bombs. Kentucky got

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<v Speaker 1>a couple, but it wasn't a homer fest. I was

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<v Speaker 1>afraid it might be. Again a tribute to the Kentucky.

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<v Speaker 2>Pitchers, right, I think so. I completely agree with you

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<v Speaker 2>on that. The fact that they held Tennessee to four

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<v Speaker 2>home runs for the weekend and only one after Friday

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<v Speaker 2>flummaxed all weekend. And you know what, credit to coach Rozelle.

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<v Speaker 2>If you think back, Dick to the last time Kentucky

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<v Speaker 2>Williams was on the mound for a ten nothing shutout.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kentucky's won three of the last four against Tennessee

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<v Speaker 1>forgotten about that. That was an incredible day down there.

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<v Speaker 1>much you've ever got to hear tape of him or

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<v Speaker 1>recordings or whatever, or I think you're too young to

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<v Speaker 1>remember when he was on the air, but you clearly

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<v Speaker 1>how cool is it to be in a press box

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<v Speaker 1>named after him? People? Maybe you know he was a

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<v Speaker 1>loved that place, didn't he.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know what, it's really special for me just

416
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<v Speaker 2>because he was the father of the Vall Network at

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<v Speaker 2>the University of Tennessee along outside general neland it was

418
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<v Speaker 2>Lindsay Nelson who created the network for Tennessee football and

419
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<v Speaker 2>later basketball and baseball and the other sports. But the

420
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<v Speaker 2>fact that I get to sit in that press box

421
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<v Speaker 2>knowing that Lindsay Nelson was the first to sit in

422
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<v Speaker 2>that chair among a great line of announcers there at

423
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<v Speaker 2>the University of Tennessee, it's really neat, and you know,

424
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<v Speaker 2>it ties in on the baseball side of it, with

425
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<v Speaker 2>his name being on the baseball press box, you know,

426
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<v Speaker 2>the first voice of the New York Mets and a

427
00:25:55.359 --> 00:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>long time Major League announcer, and so you sort of

428
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<v Speaker 2>get motivated to try to be at your best knowing that, Okay,

429
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<v Speaker 2>I'm sitting in the press box named after one of

430
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<v Speaker 2>the greatest baseball announcers ever. I better be on my

431
00:26:06.599 --> 00:26:09.599
<v Speaker 2>game this weekend, just in case his ghost is still

432
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<v Speaker 2>hopping this ballpark.

433
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<v Speaker 1>And of course you've got the statue out front, Casey

434
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<v Speaker 1>at the bat statue, so it's and of course they've

435
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<v Speaker 1>renovated it and they're going to put more money into it.

436
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<v Speaker 1>But they had great crowds there and they went home disappointed.

437
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<v Speaker 1>Two out of three days, didn't they?

438
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was. It was interesting to look down there

439
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<v Speaker 2>in the eighth and ninth innings on Sunday and see

440
00:26:33.599 --> 00:26:37.559
<v Speaker 2>that ballpark, how fast it emptied out, And you know what,

441
00:26:37.720 --> 00:26:40.559
<v Speaker 2>there was a pretty good smattering of blue way down

442
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<v Speaker 2>the left field line, towards the corner, and they were

443
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<v Speaker 2>pretty much the only ones left there when the final

444
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<v Speaker 2>out was recorded.

445
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<v Speaker 1>Were the fire trucks over there beyond the wall. When

446
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<v Speaker 1>I filled in for Neil Price several years ago at

447
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<v Speaker 1>ut and maybe it's been built up so that they

448
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<v Speaker 1>can't well, but there were these fire trucks that had

449
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<v Speaker 1>pulled up the road behind or some parking lot, and

450
00:27:02.599 --> 00:27:04.799
<v Speaker 1>the firefighters were sitting up on top of the trucks

451
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<v Speaker 1>watching the games. Can they still do that?

452
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<v Speaker 2>No, they weren't there anymore. And they filled in the

453
00:27:11.359 --> 00:27:13.519
<v Speaker 2>ballpark to the point where it's kind of hard to

454
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<v Speaker 2>sit and watch. You know. They've added the terrace seating

455
00:27:17.240 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>beyond left field and everything is under construction. The street

456
00:27:21.480 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>that used to run between the ballpark and the football

457
00:27:24.680 --> 00:27:28.319
<v Speaker 2>complex is now a giant pit where they're about to

458
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<v Speaker 2>add even more suite level. They're calling it the Tower,

459
00:27:33.279 --> 00:27:35.359
<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be some sweeps that go in.

460
00:27:35.680 --> 00:27:38.759
<v Speaker 2>That ballpark is going to rival duty Noble when it's done.

461
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<v Speaker 1>Wow, isn't it interesting, Darren? The growth of facilities in

462
00:27:43.480 --> 00:27:46.279
<v Speaker 1>the SEC and all it takes is a little bit

463
00:27:46.319 --> 00:27:49.559
<v Speaker 1>of success. Now KPP was on the boards, gosh in

464
00:27:49.640 --> 00:27:54.720
<v Speaker 1>the mid twenty thirteen fourteen. Gary Henderson worked tirelessly on

465
00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.440
<v Speaker 1>the blueprints and then they break ground once Nick got here.

466
00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.839
<v Speaker 1>But for the longest time, you know, a sea ballpark

467
00:28:00.960 --> 00:28:03.599
<v Speaker 1>was kind of forgotten about, wasn't it.

468
00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.720
<v Speaker 2>It really was just one of those things down there

469
00:28:06.759 --> 00:28:10.920
<v Speaker 2>where every time it was on the on the ticket,

470
00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.400
<v Speaker 2>every time it got next in line and the queue

471
00:28:13.440 --> 00:28:17.759
<v Speaker 2>for renovations, football needed something and so it was a

472
00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:22.640
<v Speaker 2>new practice facility or upgrades to Kneeland Stadium or whatever.

473
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.839
<v Speaker 2>So it felt like every time the baseball stadium got

474
00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:29.000
<v Speaker 2>to where it was next in line for renovations, oh nope,

475
00:28:29.000 --> 00:28:34.079
<v Speaker 2>coach Former or coach Jones or now coach Hypel, somebody

476
00:28:34.160 --> 00:28:36.880
<v Speaker 2>needed something and it got put on the back burner.

477
00:28:36.920 --> 00:28:39.000
<v Speaker 2>It went back to the end of the line. But

478
00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:42.359
<v Speaker 2>now they're finally doing some upgrades to it, and you know,

479
00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.599
<v Speaker 2>the miracle of all miracles, when they're finished there will

480
00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.440
<v Speaker 2>be elevators. Oh, it goes to the press level and

481
00:28:48.519 --> 00:28:49.319
<v Speaker 2>the suitet level.

482
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one that one time I went. I had

483
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<v Speaker 1>my foot. I think I had a bone spur. It

484
00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.279
<v Speaker 1>was in a boot and I had to walk those

485
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<v Speaker 1>five or six flights of steps with my quick boxes,

486
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<v Speaker 1>just like you do. So anyhow, all right, we'll talk

487
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<v Speaker 1>more baseball with Darren Headrick on the other side of

488
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<v Speaker 1>the break here on six thirty WLAP Welcome back. We're

489
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<v Speaker 1>talking with Darren Headrick, the voice of UK baseball. You'll

490
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<v Speaker 1>hear him coming up at the bottom of our next

491
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<v Speaker 1>hour with Nick MinJe On on the Nick Minjeone Show,

492
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<v Speaker 1>of course, talking about the weekend with the Wildcats down

493
00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:23.240
<v Speaker 1>in Knoxville taking two out of three from the Balls

494
00:29:23.240 --> 00:29:26.599
<v Speaker 1>and you and again coach Madison who works games with

495
00:29:26.640 --> 00:29:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you when he can, and Doug Flynn, my partner. We've

496
00:29:30.000 --> 00:29:33.440
<v Speaker 1>talked all year long about how this team. I don't

497
00:29:33.440 --> 00:29:36.079
<v Speaker 1>know if it was missing something, but it just it

498
00:29:36.160 --> 00:29:39.079
<v Speaker 1>seemed like it was right on the verge, you know,

499
00:29:39.119 --> 00:29:41.640
<v Speaker 1>and again many many new faces. We all know that

500
00:29:41.720 --> 00:29:46.680
<v Speaker 1>any brutal schedule, do you think this weekend, Darren, is

501
00:29:46.680 --> 00:29:48.519
<v Speaker 1>what's going to put them over the hump. We'll find

502
00:29:48.519 --> 00:29:51.680
<v Speaker 1>out tomorrow night, But are you getting any signs that

503
00:29:52.160 --> 00:29:53.440
<v Speaker 1>it's finally starting to click.

504
00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:57.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I definitely can see that. And you know, the

505
00:29:57.640 --> 00:30:01.759
<v Speaker 2>thing is like this weekend, you lose Ethan Hindle with

506
00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:06.440
<v Speaker 2>the injury, and you insert Ryan Schwartz. Well, here's a

507
00:30:06.480 --> 00:30:08.720
<v Speaker 2>freshman who steps up, and all of a sudden he

508
00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:12.319
<v Speaker 2>has four hits to lead the team in the weekend series.

509
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<v Speaker 2>And I just think, Yeah, there's been moments where they

510
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<v Speaker 2>had all of these close losses. They were right there

511
00:30:20.640 --> 00:30:26.079
<v Speaker 2>against Old Miss Louisville and Texas, but they couldn't quite

512
00:30:26.079 --> 00:30:28.839
<v Speaker 2>get over the hump to win those games or win

513
00:30:28.920 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 2>those series. And you're like, man, it just feels like

514
00:30:31.559 --> 00:30:33.960
<v Speaker 2>they need one more piece, if they just had one

515
00:30:34.039 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>more something, whether it was an ability to make a

516
00:30:37.920 --> 00:30:43.240
<v Speaker 2>pitch or get that hit. But against Tennessee this weekend,

517
00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:46.559
<v Speaker 2>it all came together. And the thing for me, during

518
00:30:46.599 --> 00:30:50.599
<v Speaker 2>that tough stretch, as frustrating as it was, the pitching

519
00:30:50.720 --> 00:30:55.119
<v Speaker 2>kept them in those ballgames. Well, this weekend we saw

520
00:30:55.160 --> 00:30:57.960
<v Speaker 2>the pitching take a little bit more of a step

521
00:30:58.000 --> 00:31:00.640
<v Speaker 2>forward to where they're not just keeping them in games

522
00:31:01.039 --> 00:31:05.720
<v Speaker 2>now they're dominating, their imposing their will and now we're

523
00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.519
<v Speaker 2>seeing confidence coming back to this offense. And the fun

524
00:31:09.559 --> 00:31:12.519
<v Speaker 2>thing for me, Dick is, as much as I hate

525
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<v Speaker 2>the injury to Ethan Hindle, because that young man was

526
00:31:15.400 --> 00:31:19.000
<v Speaker 2>just getting going, finding a rhythm, he was getting on base,

527
00:31:21.400 --> 00:31:25.279
<v Speaker 2>to see the youth movement in this lineup. Now Schwartz

528
00:31:25.279 --> 00:31:29.240
<v Speaker 2>a freshman, Tyler Bell a freshman, Hudson Brown a red

529
00:31:29.279 --> 00:31:33.960
<v Speaker 2>shirt freshman. Those guys were the leading producers this weekend offensively,

530
00:31:34.440 --> 00:31:38.440
<v Speaker 2>and then you throw in Patrick Herrera, who's been steady.

531
00:31:38.839 --> 00:31:43.200
<v Speaker 2>Dylan Coons's back continues to come around like it has

532
00:31:43.279 --> 00:31:46.799
<v Speaker 2>this week, He's going to make that lineup deeper. And

533
00:31:47.160 --> 00:31:50.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, with Carson Hanson hitting well against Tennessee this weekend,

534
00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:54.079
<v Speaker 2>maybe this lineup was starting to click and things are

535
00:31:54.079 --> 00:31:57.279
<v Speaker 2>coming together. I also think Gabe looking at the back

536
00:31:57.319 --> 00:32:00.799
<v Speaker 2>half of the schedule now that Tennessee's behind them, those

537
00:32:00.920 --> 00:32:03.519
<v Speaker 2>last four weeks as tough as they are in this league,

538
00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:06.359
<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to disrespect the opponents, but it's

539
00:32:06.400 --> 00:32:09.839
<v Speaker 2>not top five teams one after another, that's right. These

540
00:32:09.839 --> 00:32:13.799
<v Speaker 2>are winnable series if Kentucky can execute and play at

541
00:32:13.799 --> 00:32:16.119
<v Speaker 2>the level that we saw them play at.

542
00:32:15.960 --> 00:32:19.799
<v Speaker 1>Tennessee one hundred percent. I mean, the top half of

543
00:32:19.799 --> 00:32:24.480
<v Speaker 1>the scheduled brutal. But yeah, and now just in time,

544
00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:27.559
<v Speaker 1>Vandy's kind of coming to life. So you can't discount

545
00:32:27.599 --> 00:32:31.440
<v Speaker 1>anybody in the SEC. But all these young guys, now

546
00:32:31.440 --> 00:32:36.480
<v Speaker 1>they've seen SEC breaking balls. They're still freshmen. They're still incorporating, uh,

547
00:32:36.680 --> 00:32:39.799
<v Speaker 1>stuff they learn into their games, and they're still seeing

548
00:32:39.839 --> 00:32:42.920
<v Speaker 1>things for the first time. But uh, there's a lot

549
00:32:42.960 --> 00:32:45.200
<v Speaker 1>to be said. They've played a lot of baseball, and

550
00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:47.680
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot to be said for what they've learned.

551
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<v Speaker 1>We're talking with Darren Hedderick, the radio voice of the

552
00:32:50.039 --> 00:32:53.000
<v Speaker 1>Baseball Wildcatch. You'll hear them with Nick Manjione coming up

553
00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>at seven thirty on this Ferry radio station. The Cat's

554
00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:59.119
<v Speaker 1>taking two out of three from Tennessee. Louisville comes in,

555
00:32:59.519 --> 00:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's amazing to me, Darren that, and

556
00:33:03.440 --> 00:33:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I know it has been a source of frustration to you,

557
00:33:05.759 --> 00:33:08.759
<v Speaker 1>to the team, to the coaches, how well Kentucky's played

558
00:33:08.799 --> 00:33:11.640
<v Speaker 1>in the SEC games, even a series they've lost. And

559
00:33:11.720 --> 00:33:14.960
<v Speaker 1>yet the midweek games sometimes they look like a different team,

560
00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.759
<v Speaker 1>don't they. Maybe not against Louisville when they got brilliant

561
00:33:17.799 --> 00:33:21.359
<v Speaker 1>pitching up until the very end. But just those midweek

562
00:33:21.359 --> 00:33:22.200
<v Speaker 1>games have been weird.

563
00:33:23.559 --> 00:33:26.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they have. And we've seen teams in the past

564
00:33:26.480 --> 00:33:30.279
<v Speaker 2>that for whatever reason have struggled with the midweek games.

565
00:33:31.119 --> 00:33:34.039
<v Speaker 2>Xavier was a really good team that came in here. Obviously,

566
00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.240
<v Speaker 2>Louisville is a friend's top ten team. They may even

567
00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:40.119
<v Speaker 2>be ranked in the top ten this week. But for

568
00:33:40.240 --> 00:33:43.880
<v Speaker 2>you faced some really tough teams. But you're right, they

569
00:33:44.680 --> 00:33:47.240
<v Speaker 2>had a close game there with Miami of Ohio, blew

570
00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.519
<v Speaker 2>the three run lead and then ended up walking that

571
00:33:49.559 --> 00:33:53.039
<v Speaker 2>one off on a bunt, scoring Kyles Garget from third.

572
00:33:53.839 --> 00:33:56.240
<v Speaker 2>But yeah, these midweek games, and I think that's just

573
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<v Speaker 2>maybe it could simply just be a young team that

574
00:34:01.599 --> 00:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, they're coming off the high of the of

575
00:34:03.559 --> 00:34:07.519
<v Speaker 2>a hard competition in these SEC games and they haven't

576
00:34:07.599 --> 00:34:10.440
<v Speaker 2>quite locked in like they should. Who knows, But yeah,

577
00:34:10.480 --> 00:34:13.199
<v Speaker 2>these midweek games can sometimes be traps. But that's the

578
00:34:13.199 --> 00:34:16.480
<v Speaker 2>way it goes for anybody. You know. Last year, Tennessee's

579
00:34:16.480 --> 00:34:19.159
<v Speaker 2>a national champion and they lost to Lipscomb and Tennessee

580
00:34:19.199 --> 00:34:22.079
<v Speaker 2>Tech on the midweek, So you know, it happens to

581
00:34:22.119 --> 00:34:27.119
<v Speaker 2>the better teams. I think for me, it underscores how

582
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<v Speaker 2>difficult these SEC series are and how much that it

583
00:34:31.440 --> 00:34:35.199
<v Speaker 2>takes out of these guys mentally and physically. I mean,

584
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<v Speaker 2>just from a broadcaster standpoint, I'm just sitting in a

585
00:34:39.039 --> 00:34:42.800
<v Speaker 2>booth watching and talking about baseball, and by the end

586
00:34:42.840 --> 00:34:46.719
<v Speaker 2>of an SEC series, I'm drained just from the emotional

587
00:34:46.800 --> 00:34:50.639
<v Speaker 2>roller coaster that these guys are on in these series.

588
00:34:50.679 --> 00:34:52.880
<v Speaker 2>So it takes a lot out of these guys to

589
00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:56.440
<v Speaker 2>compete at that level. And you know, it's sometimes it

590
00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.119
<v Speaker 2>may just be as simple as it's tough to rebound

591
00:34:59.119 --> 00:35:03.079
<v Speaker 2>a day later and and play somebody who doesn't have

592
00:35:03.159 --> 00:35:05.840
<v Speaker 2>that SEC logo beside him. But you still got to

593
00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:07.119
<v Speaker 2>do it, and you still got to find a way

594
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<v Speaker 2>to win well.

595
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<v Speaker 1>And just as it did last year, it got chippy

596
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.079
<v Speaker 1>with Tennessee, which I guess is the way it ought

597
00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to me UK Tennessee. But that's emotional as well, isn't it.

598
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that made it even more fun is the way

599
00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:27.000
<v Speaker 2>that one got salty down there in Knoxville this past weekend.

600
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<v Speaker 2>And that's just that's what makes the rivalry fund though.

601
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<v Speaker 2>And I'm sure Kentucky and Louisville tomorrow night at Kentucky

602
00:35:34.480 --> 00:35:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Proud Park, I'm sure it'll be a lot of energy

603
00:35:37.239 --> 00:35:39.159
<v Speaker 2>in the in the ballpark for that one as well.

604
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, the coaches, they're good with each other.

605
00:35:42.760 --> 00:35:46.559
<v Speaker 1>But it's amazing to me the players who might transfer

606
00:35:46.639 --> 00:35:51.320
<v Speaker 1>in or sign as freshmen, and it's almost instantaneous, isn't

607
00:35:51.320 --> 00:35:54.320
<v Speaker 1>it uku of l because they hear it from their classmates,

608
00:35:54.400 --> 00:35:55.840
<v Speaker 1>they hear it from their friends, don't they.

609
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's exactly right. And I think another great example

610
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<v Speaker 2>is in women's basketball. You had a brand new coaching staff,

611
00:36:03.599 --> 00:36:06.719
<v Speaker 2>but hey, they played Louisville yearly because they were in

612
00:36:06.760 --> 00:36:10.559
<v Speaker 2>the same conference as the Cardinals. And I don't want

613
00:36:10.559 --> 00:36:12.639
<v Speaker 2>to say it wasn't a big deal to play Louisville

614
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<v Speaker 2>because Louisville and women's basketball is a tremendous program. But

615
00:36:16.639 --> 00:36:18.719
<v Speaker 2>for them, it was just, Okay, this is a really

616
00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:22.239
<v Speaker 2>tough conference game. But that's all it was. And now

617
00:36:22.239 --> 00:36:24.440
<v Speaker 2>they're at Kentucky and it's like, okay, well this game

618
00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:27.960
<v Speaker 2>means a little bit more now. And I remember Georgia

619
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<v Speaker 2>Amore after they beat Louisville at historic Memorial Coliseum. She's like, Okay,

620
00:36:33.599 --> 00:36:35.960
<v Speaker 2>I get it now, I see what this means, and

621
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<v Speaker 2>we're really excited that we could win this one. For them,

622
00:36:38.679 --> 00:36:41.599
<v Speaker 2>And so, yeah, you're right. These guys that are new

623
00:36:41.599 --> 00:36:44.480
<v Speaker 2>faces on the baseball team found that out in the

624
00:36:44.519 --> 00:36:48.199
<v Speaker 2>Derby City. And I'm sure they're anxious to get round

625
00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>too at Kentucky.

626
00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>Brown Park, especially the way that one got away just

627
00:36:52.559 --> 00:36:55.039
<v Speaker 1>a minute or two left with Darren Hedrick. But yeah,

628
00:36:55.079 --> 00:36:58.000
<v Speaker 1>had to feel great for Georgia Amore. How surprised were

629
00:36:58.039 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you that she went maybe through four picks earlier than

630
00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.000
<v Speaker 1>we all thought she would.

631
00:37:03.039 --> 00:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, it's interesting you asked me that because as

632
00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:09.079
<v Speaker 2>I was watching that draft unfold and the Mystics had

633
00:37:09.119 --> 00:37:13.159
<v Speaker 2>all those first round picks, and I kind of thought

634
00:37:13.239 --> 00:37:16.480
<v Speaker 2>the Valkyries might take Georgia, and I think that would

635
00:37:16.480 --> 00:37:20.239
<v Speaker 2>have been the fifth pick. Yeah, but anyway, the Valkyries

636
00:37:20.480 --> 00:37:24.159
<v Speaker 2>kind of shock everybody and take an international player. And

637
00:37:24.199 --> 00:37:26.800
<v Speaker 2>I looked at somebody I was watching the draft with

638
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.000
<v Speaker 2>and I said, wait a minute. The Mystics have taken

639
00:37:29.039 --> 00:37:32.519
<v Speaker 2>a forward, and now they've taken a shooting guard and

640
00:37:32.559 --> 00:37:35.159
<v Speaker 2>they've got a third pick. I said, what do you

641
00:37:35.199 --> 00:37:37.679
<v Speaker 2>need with a forward and a shooting guard. You need

642
00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.400
<v Speaker 2>a point guard. I said, I bet they take Georgia.

643
00:37:40.440 --> 00:37:44.159
<v Speaker 2>And about that time, the WNBA commissioner announced her name,

644
00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:48.199
<v Speaker 2>and I was really excited for and I'll be calling

645
00:37:48.280 --> 00:37:50.880
<v Speaker 2>baseball when it happens. But man, I wish I could

646
00:37:50.920 --> 00:37:54.159
<v Speaker 2>be in Washington, DC to see the Mystics and Georgia

647
00:37:54.199 --> 00:37:57.239
<v Speaker 2>Amore take on the Atlanta Dream and Ryan Howard in

648
00:37:57.280 --> 00:37:58.280
<v Speaker 2>that season opener.

649
00:37:58.400 --> 00:37:59.880
<v Speaker 1>A lot of people are going to make that road.

650
00:38:00.280 --> 00:38:02.760
<v Speaker 1>That's gonna be fun. He is Darren Hedrick. He is

651
00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.280
<v Speaker 1>the radio voice of the Baseball Wildcats and UK women's basketball.

652
00:38:06.320 --> 00:38:08.320
<v Speaker 1>You'll hear him coming up at the bottom of our

653
00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:10.880
<v Speaker 1>next hour with Nick menje On on the nickmnjeone Show

654
00:38:10.920 --> 00:38:13.599
<v Speaker 1>and calling the action as the Wildcats take on the

655
00:38:13.639 --> 00:38:18.559
<v Speaker 1>Cardinals tomorrow night at KPP pregame six fifteen, first pitch

656
00:38:18.599 --> 00:38:20.880
<v Speaker 1>six probably six thirty two. If you can't be there,

657
00:38:20.920 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 1>tune it in. Thank you brother. We'll see at the

658
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:24.159
<v Speaker 1>ballpark of.

659
00:38:24.119 --> 00:38:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Course, anytime a man appreciate it.

660
00:38:26.639 --> 00:38:30.159
<v Speaker 1>Darren, of course, is a native of Maryville, Tennessee, which

661
00:38:30.199 --> 00:38:34.480
<v Speaker 1>is due south of Knoxville and due west of Pigeon

662
00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:37.639
<v Speaker 1>Fords and Gatlinburg. Kind of a triangle there if you

663
00:38:37.719 --> 00:38:40.639
<v Speaker 1>use those three points. And again went to ut but

664
00:38:40.920 --> 00:38:44.280
<v Speaker 1>knows where his bread is literally buttered. That's where the

665
00:38:44.280 --> 00:38:48.159
<v Speaker 1>paycheck comes from from doing Kentucky games. But yeah, it's

666
00:38:48.440 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 1>fun going to Tennessee now that they care about baseball,

667
00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.440
<v Speaker 1>even more fun than the Wildcats pull out the wins.

668
00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:56.840
<v Speaker 1>Our number two well a half hour coming up with

669
00:38:56.920 --> 00:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>Kid Spencer next in six thirty WLFP.

670
00:39:00.920 --> 00:40:22.360
<v Speaker 4>Then any type such tact stating.

671
00:40:54.760 --> 00:40:56.719
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Big Boone sider joining us now

672
00:40:56.840 --> 00:40:58.639
<v Speaker 1>is a longtime buddy and a friend of the show.

673
00:40:59.079 --> 00:41:02.239
<v Speaker 1>He was a dope TVQ for many years and now

674
00:41:02.280 --> 00:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>as the sports director whas over in Louisville. Kent Spencer

675
00:41:06.360 --> 00:41:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and uh, it's derby time, so you've got your hands

676
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:10.760
<v Speaker 1>full of Kent, But I do want to talk with

677
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:13.320
<v Speaker 1>you about college football. Always point out that Kent and

678
00:41:13.719 --> 00:41:15.679
<v Speaker 1>mister Pecoro are the only guys on the beat who

679
00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:17.760
<v Speaker 1>really know what it's like to get hitting them out

680
00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:20.920
<v Speaker 1>in the college football game. Let me ask you about

681
00:41:21.119 --> 00:41:23.480
<v Speaker 1>about Kentucky, and I'm gonna get you to give me

682
00:41:23.519 --> 00:41:25.280
<v Speaker 1>a little scating report on what went on at U

683
00:41:25.280 --> 00:41:28.519
<v Speaker 1>of L as well. But with so many new faces

684
00:41:28.639 --> 00:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Kent in camp in spring, it's got to mean that

685
00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:37.360
<v Speaker 1>these summer weeks coming up and really every day until

686
00:41:37.400 --> 00:41:41.639
<v Speaker 1>what they call August camp begins. Is they're vital, aren't

687
00:41:41.639 --> 00:41:44.239
<v Speaker 1>they these guys getting to know each other and becoming

688
00:41:44.239 --> 00:41:44.639
<v Speaker 1>a team.

689
00:41:45.559 --> 00:41:49.679
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and let me say this too, Dick, Like, over

690
00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:54.480
<v Speaker 5>time things have changed so much where you know, you

691
00:41:54.639 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 5>really couldn't you know, coaches really couldn't get with their

692
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.719
<v Speaker 5>kids over the summer, right, you know, that was the

693
00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:03.920
<v Speaker 5>that was the role. So you know you had, you know,

694
00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:07.400
<v Speaker 5>after spring practice and until people showed up for camp.

695
00:42:07.880 --> 00:42:10.559
<v Speaker 5>I mean that's months and months and months that coaches

696
00:42:10.639 --> 00:42:14.039
<v Speaker 5>really can't spend time and work with their kids. Well

697
00:42:14.079 --> 00:42:17.280
<v Speaker 5>that's that's changed, and now coaches get a lot you know,

698
00:42:17.320 --> 00:42:20.039
<v Speaker 5>you can have a lot more of that now. You know,

699
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:22.679
<v Speaker 5>it's not a twenty four to seven thing, but at

700
00:42:22.800 --> 00:42:25.639
<v Speaker 5>least it is. You know, you can you can be

701
00:42:25.639 --> 00:42:29.159
<v Speaker 5>better prepared for the time that Paul Camp rolls around.

702
00:42:29.840 --> 00:42:32.480
<v Speaker 5>And especially in this day and age of the of

703
00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:35.519
<v Speaker 5>the transfer portal, you know, and and and we've even

704
00:42:35.559 --> 00:42:37.960
<v Speaker 5>seen it in the last week right since since spring

705
00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:42.679
<v Speaker 5>practice as has has ended, you've got kids still coming in,

706
00:42:42.960 --> 00:42:46.599
<v Speaker 5>you've got kids still going out, and so these next

707
00:42:46.679 --> 00:42:49.920
<v Speaker 5>few months are because I mean, by the time Paul

708
00:42:50.000 --> 00:42:54.079
<v Speaker 5>Camp happened, you get a month essentially you get ready

709
00:42:54.079 --> 00:42:56.800
<v Speaker 5>for your season, and so you know, that's just.

710
00:42:56.800 --> 00:42:57.559
<v Speaker 2>Not enough time.

711
00:42:58.000 --> 00:43:01.920
<v Speaker 5>That's why these these months important for the times that

712
00:43:01.960 --> 00:43:04.599
<v Speaker 5>the kids can be with the coaches, but also the

713
00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.360
<v Speaker 5>times that the kids can be with themselves, getting an

714
00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:11.159
<v Speaker 5>extra workouts, whether that's you know, self organized seven on seven,

715
00:43:11.280 --> 00:43:15.199
<v Speaker 5>whatever it takes. This is this is that key moment.

716
00:43:16.119 --> 00:43:19.840
<v Speaker 1>Tell everybody, as a guy who's done that, what those

717
00:43:20.000 --> 00:43:24.039
<v Speaker 1>off the field moments are like and how vital they are.

718
00:43:24.679 --> 00:43:26.760
<v Speaker 1>You know, the locker room stuff. I mean, you know

719
00:43:26.800 --> 00:43:29.239
<v Speaker 1>you don't you don't bond with with your teammate, Well,

720
00:43:29.280 --> 00:43:31.800
<v Speaker 1>you kind of do on the field, but it's off

721
00:43:31.840 --> 00:43:35.119
<v Speaker 1>the field stuff maybe just as are more important, isn't it.

722
00:43:36.039 --> 00:43:39.320
<v Speaker 5>You know, it's so funny that you mentioned that because

723
00:43:40.719 --> 00:43:43.280
<v Speaker 5>last night my wife and I were out for dinner

724
00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:48.440
<v Speaker 5>and we were celebrating our eighteen year wedding anniversary. Yeah

725
00:43:49.719 --> 00:43:53.719
<v Speaker 5>it's actually it's actually today, but we had to do

726
00:43:53.760 --> 00:43:56.960
<v Speaker 5>it last night because A my work schedule and B

727
00:43:57.239 --> 00:44:02.360
<v Speaker 5>my son has a baseball game, and so you know,

728
00:44:02.440 --> 00:44:04.239
<v Speaker 5>are our son has a baseball game.

729
00:44:04.639 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>So we had to settle it.

730
00:44:05.840 --> 00:44:09.119
<v Speaker 5>And she asked me the question. She goes, you know,

731
00:44:09.960 --> 00:44:11.719
<v Speaker 5>you know it was one of those questions, like do

732
00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:15.280
<v Speaker 5>you even remember, you know, life before you know, we

733
00:44:15.280 --> 00:44:18.519
<v Speaker 5>were married and together. And I actually looked at her

734
00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.800
<v Speaker 5>and I said, yeah, I do. But it's not like

735
00:44:21.880 --> 00:44:26.320
<v Speaker 5>you would think. I said, you know, I still remember

736
00:44:26.400 --> 00:44:31.280
<v Speaker 5>like it was yesterday, certain moments with my team.

737
00:44:31.559 --> 00:44:33.039
<v Speaker 2>Sure, and I.

738
00:44:33.000 --> 00:44:36.199
<v Speaker 5>Remember, you know, like I still like to this day.

739
00:44:36.840 --> 00:44:40.199
<v Speaker 5>I remember the place that we would go out the

740
00:44:40.280 --> 00:44:44.000
<v Speaker 5>quarterbacks and the wide receivers on Friday night, the night

741
00:44:44.079 --> 00:44:48.519
<v Speaker 5>before a home game, Like I remember those kind of

742
00:44:48.599 --> 00:44:51.320
<v Speaker 5>moments and the things that we did them. So those

743
00:44:51.360 --> 00:44:53.519
<v Speaker 5>are the things that stick with you forever. You know,

744
00:44:53.639 --> 00:44:57.400
<v Speaker 5>so many people you remember moments on the field, But

745
00:44:57.480 --> 00:44:59.559
<v Speaker 5>the things that you miss and the things that you

746
00:44:59.719 --> 00:45:03.440
<v Speaker 5>share more than anything are is the is the locker

747
00:45:03.519 --> 00:45:06.239
<v Speaker 5>room moment. The things that you remember is it's the

748
00:45:06.320 --> 00:45:09.159
<v Speaker 5>team dinners, It's it's the it's you know, going out

749
00:45:09.199 --> 00:45:12.119
<v Speaker 5>and doing things or you know, messing around in the

750
00:45:12.159 --> 00:45:12.679
<v Speaker 5>locker room.

751
00:45:12.760 --> 00:45:13.880
<v Speaker 2>You know, the little things.

752
00:45:13.639 --> 00:45:16.519
<v Speaker 5>Like that, Like that's what you that's what you miss,

753
00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:20.880
<v Speaker 5>and that's when you when you see a former teammate.

754
00:45:21.559 --> 00:45:24.039
<v Speaker 5>Those are the things that are the reason why you

755
00:45:24.079 --> 00:45:26.199
<v Speaker 5>give each other the biggest bear hugs in the world.

756
00:45:26.760 --> 00:45:30.519
<v Speaker 5>So that's why like this stuff coming up and just

757
00:45:30.599 --> 00:45:34.719
<v Speaker 5>the extra stuff that they mean the world that that

758
00:45:34.719 --> 00:45:38.159
<v Speaker 5>that those are the reasons while you'll go into you know,

759
00:45:38.159 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 5>and it's a it's a it's a bad term, but

760
00:45:40.280 --> 00:45:43.360
<v Speaker 5>you'll go into the fox hole with that dude every

761
00:45:43.400 --> 00:45:44.039
<v Speaker 5>single time.

762
00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.280
<v Speaker 1>I was talking earlier in the show about Kentucky's run

763
00:45:47.320 --> 00:45:50.199
<v Speaker 1>to Omaha with baseball and and those guys that made

764
00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:52.719
<v Speaker 1>that happen, they'll have they'll share that bond. But many

765
00:45:52.719 --> 00:45:55.360
<v Speaker 1>of them were together for just the one year. But

766
00:45:55.440 --> 00:45:59.800
<v Speaker 1>something doing something extraordinary will help these guys, like I said,

767
00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:04.440
<v Speaker 1>be bonded forever. But I wonder Kent about these guys

768
00:46:04.480 --> 00:46:08.599
<v Speaker 1>that have, you know, a resume that includes four or

769
00:46:08.679 --> 00:46:12.480
<v Speaker 1>five six teams. You know, they'll never and it sounds

770
00:46:12.559 --> 00:46:15.599
<v Speaker 1>kind of modern, but they'll never realize what that feels like.

771
00:46:15.719 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 1>Will they to build those kind of relationships?

772
00:46:20.119 --> 00:46:24.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, you know, and part of it is I honestly, Dick,

773
00:46:24.360 --> 00:46:30.360
<v Speaker 5>I don't know. And look, it can be done. You know,

774
00:46:30.840 --> 00:46:34.320
<v Speaker 5>we see it, and we see it with what we

775
00:46:34.480 --> 00:46:37.519
<v Speaker 5>watched and from my point of view, which we what

776
00:46:37.599 --> 00:46:41.719
<v Speaker 5>we watched with Kentucky basketball and Louisville basketball this year,

777
00:46:41.880 --> 00:46:45.079
<v Speaker 5>right and you know, in the last what fifteen years

778
00:46:45.119 --> 00:46:48.000
<v Speaker 5>with what are done is with Kentucky basketball. You know,

779
00:46:48.320 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 5>you see that where people say, you know, there can't

780
00:46:51.199 --> 00:46:54.599
<v Speaker 5>be a connection, but then you're like, well, actually there can.

781
00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.920
<v Speaker 5>There can be, but everybody has to be completely bought

782
00:46:58.920 --> 00:47:03.559
<v Speaker 5>in for that year. And with this thing becoming so transactional,

783
00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:06.960
<v Speaker 5>you still got to maintain it may be harder than

784
00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:10.920
<v Speaker 5>ever to be able to build those relationships and get

785
00:47:10.960 --> 00:47:14.360
<v Speaker 5>that done in but that's also about making sure that

786
00:47:14.400 --> 00:47:17.599
<v Speaker 5>you're bringing in and recruiting the right people, you know,

787
00:47:17.639 --> 00:47:19.760
<v Speaker 5>because some of these guys that are that are four

788
00:47:19.760 --> 00:47:23.159
<v Speaker 5>and five year people and it's just transactional. You're not

789
00:47:23.199 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 5>trying to bring in mercenaries here, you know what I mean? Like, yeah,

790
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:29.559
<v Speaker 5>you know, you're trying to bring in the right people

791
00:47:30.159 --> 00:47:33.599
<v Speaker 5>that you can still create a culture. Yes, money is

792
00:47:33.639 --> 00:47:36.880
<v Speaker 5>going to be at the forefront of everything, but after

793
00:47:36.920 --> 00:47:40.760
<v Speaker 5>the business is done, can you be bought in to

794
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:42.440
<v Speaker 5>what the team content is?

795
00:47:42.719 --> 00:47:46.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Pope and Kelsey clearly did a great job of that.

796
00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.400
<v Speaker 1>Tougher for a football coach when he's got to bring

797
00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:52.960
<v Speaker 1>in so many more, uh, you know, new players or

798
00:47:53.280 --> 00:47:54.960
<v Speaker 1>or you know, like you say, guys, you don't want

799
00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:58.440
<v Speaker 1>them to be mercenaries, but they're they're almost nomads. Talking

800
00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:01.960
<v Speaker 1>to Ken Spencer from w h AS about Kentucky football,

801
00:48:02.000 --> 00:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Louisville football, and U Kentucky, once again, it looks like

802
00:48:06.039 --> 00:48:09.960
<v Speaker 1>cannot be surprised if a transfer wasn't the starting quarterback.

803
00:48:10.320 --> 00:48:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And as you know, this this goes back, this revolving

804
00:48:13.039 --> 00:48:16.280
<v Speaker 1>door really goes back to the day they shigned Drew

805
00:48:16.360 --> 00:48:19.719
<v Speaker 1>Barker he was the future and when he went down

806
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 1>prematurely with the injuries, now here come the Juco transfer

807
00:48:24.719 --> 00:48:28.239
<v Speaker 1>is the d one transfer that that revolving door, and

808
00:48:28.960 --> 00:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>I just wonder are they going to be able to

809
00:48:30.440 --> 00:48:32.639
<v Speaker 1>break this cycle anytime soon? You know what I mean?

810
00:48:33.880 --> 00:48:36.840
<v Speaker 5>Well, I mean look, I mean, you know I would

811
00:48:36.880 --> 00:48:39.280
<v Speaker 5>say with that, and you're right, but I would say,

812
00:48:40.320 --> 00:48:43.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, Cutter Bowley, you know, last year was just

813
00:48:43.239 --> 00:48:47.159
<v Speaker 5>his true freshman year, right, And so you know, we

814
00:48:47.360 --> 00:48:51.440
<v Speaker 5>like to everybody likes to rush quarterback into the starting role.

815
00:48:52.360 --> 00:48:55.880
<v Speaker 5>And so I'm I'm a huge proponent, especially if you're

816
00:48:55.880 --> 00:48:59.960
<v Speaker 5>a quarterback that's playing in the SEC. Don't rush it. Yeah,

817
00:49:00.039 --> 00:49:02.199
<v Speaker 5>doesn't have to be rushed. I mean, look at Art

818
00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:05.679
<v Speaker 5>Manning at Texas. You know, he doesn't have the job

819
00:49:05.760 --> 00:49:08.840
<v Speaker 5>right now. He's competing for the job right now. He

820
00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:10.960
<v Speaker 5>was the number one player in the country when he

821
00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:13.920
<v Speaker 5>came out of high school and he still hasn't been

822
00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:17.360
<v Speaker 5>the starting quarterback at the University of Texas. You don't

823
00:49:17.400 --> 00:49:20.719
<v Speaker 5>have to rush it. It's just when they're ready, they're ready.

824
00:49:21.440 --> 00:49:25.039
<v Speaker 5>And you know if if Cutter Bowlie needs another year

825
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:29.159
<v Speaker 5>before he's ready, he showed flashes last year, and then

826
00:49:29.199 --> 00:49:32.760
<v Speaker 5>in the Lobo game he showed not ready. And and

827
00:49:32.800 --> 00:49:35.400
<v Speaker 5>by the way, it just wasn't that just wasn't a

828
00:49:35.440 --> 00:49:39.079
<v Speaker 5>Cutter Bullie problem. That was an entire football team. That

829
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:44.920
<v Speaker 5>was an entire offensive problem, specifically in that game. But

830
00:49:45.400 --> 00:49:47.760
<v Speaker 5>if calls out of the guy, then he's going to

831
00:49:47.800 --> 00:49:51.280
<v Speaker 5>be the guy this year. But and it's okay for

832
00:49:51.480 --> 00:49:54.960
<v Speaker 5>Bowllie to be behind that and to learn behind that,

833
00:49:55.679 --> 00:49:58.880
<v Speaker 5>and then you know, then the next year, if they

834
00:49:58.920 --> 00:50:02.360
<v Speaker 5>feel confident and development, then you just give him the

835
00:50:02.440 --> 00:50:05.800
<v Speaker 5>keys and you go all in. I don't think it's

836
00:50:05.800 --> 00:50:11.239
<v Speaker 5>a I think that helps fix the problem in my opinion,

837
00:50:11.599 --> 00:50:15.119
<v Speaker 5>But sometimes you have to find the right young guy

838
00:50:15.639 --> 00:50:18.880
<v Speaker 5>who wants to stick within the program, you know, and

839
00:50:18.920 --> 00:50:20.880
<v Speaker 5>then still be able to have a couple of years

840
00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:24.239
<v Speaker 5>of being the starter of being the guy. But it

841
00:50:24.400 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 5>takes patience. That's no longer you know, I'm gonna go

842
00:50:27.239 --> 00:50:29.519
<v Speaker 5>in Football is harder, but let's go back to basketball.

843
00:50:30.280 --> 00:50:36.400
<v Speaker 5>A Kitaan Lewis de commits from Kentucky because there wasn't

844
00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:39.559
<v Speaker 5>enough minutes for him for a true freshman. And by

845
00:50:39.559 --> 00:50:42.679
<v Speaker 5>the way, it's not that wasn't just a Kentucky problem.

846
00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:46.239
<v Speaker 5>That is that Yukon just had a freshman do the

847
00:50:46.280 --> 00:50:49.599
<v Speaker 5>same thing. Like these things are starting to pop because

848
00:50:50.039 --> 00:50:54.400
<v Speaker 5>coaches are bringing the veteran guys and and freshmen are

849
00:50:54.760 --> 00:50:57.920
<v Speaker 5>they They do not want to wait, They do not

850
00:50:58.119 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 5>want to say, hey, look, I could really growing to

851
00:51:01.159 --> 00:51:04.480
<v Speaker 5>this role, but this isn't going to be available for

852
00:51:04.559 --> 00:51:06.400
<v Speaker 5>me here. I'm not going to get the minutes that

853
00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:08.360
<v Speaker 5>I want to get as a true freshman, so I'm

854
00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.480
<v Speaker 5>going to go. So I'm going to go somewhere else.

855
00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:14.760
<v Speaker 5>Patience is no longer a thing in college athletic, especially

856
00:51:14.840 --> 00:51:17.719
<v Speaker 5>with young guys. And when you do find one that

857
00:51:17.840 --> 00:51:20.679
<v Speaker 5>wants to go about it the right way, and my opinion,

858
00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:24.880
<v Speaker 5>chances are they've got a chance to be really successful well.

859
00:51:24.920 --> 00:51:29.840
<v Speaker 1>And one of them, perhaps is Colin Chandler, who I

860
00:51:29.880 --> 00:51:32.599
<v Speaker 1>think has a really bright future and shook off the

861
00:51:32.719 --> 00:51:35.199
<v Speaker 1>rust and had a really nice back half of the

862
00:51:35.280 --> 00:51:38.280
<v Speaker 1>year for Kentucky. And he said he's coming back, And

863
00:51:38.320 --> 00:51:42.280
<v Speaker 1>you tweeted a gift when he announced he was coming back,

864
00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>didn't you.

865
00:51:44.280 --> 00:51:46.119
<v Speaker 5>I don't even remember the one that I tweeted.

866
00:51:46.119 --> 00:51:48.679
<v Speaker 1>You think you? I think you shared it or you

867
00:51:48.800 --> 00:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>retweeted what he tweeted, and that was John Wick saying yeah,

868
00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I think I'm thinking I'm back.

869
00:51:56.599 --> 00:51:58.119
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, that No, that one was.

870
00:51:58.840 --> 00:52:00.880
<v Speaker 2>That's perfect.

871
00:52:00.960 --> 00:52:05.400
<v Speaker 5>And I honestly like when it when it comes to

872
00:52:05.480 --> 00:52:08.480
<v Speaker 5>jailor coming back and it because you know that that's

873
00:52:08.639 --> 00:52:11.840
<v Speaker 5>just that decision. Like I think that kid's going to

874
00:52:11.880 --> 00:52:12.400
<v Speaker 5>be a monster.

875
00:52:12.519 --> 00:52:13.960
<v Speaker 1>Max agree.

876
00:52:14.320 --> 00:52:16.840
<v Speaker 5>And the reason why I think he's going to be

877
00:52:16.840 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 5>a monster is because you almost had to whatever you

878
00:52:22.039 --> 00:52:25.039
<v Speaker 5>got from him offensively the first year, but you know,

879
00:52:25.119 --> 00:52:27.400
<v Speaker 5>after two years, you know, being gone on his on

880
00:52:27.480 --> 00:52:32.800
<v Speaker 5>his mission trip and coming back like at this level

881
00:52:32.840 --> 00:52:35.639
<v Speaker 5>and especially the conference that he played in this year,

882
00:52:36.440 --> 00:52:39.719
<v Speaker 5>you you you saw defensive growth much quicker than you

883
00:52:39.760 --> 00:52:42.719
<v Speaker 5>saw offensive growth because when you take two years off

884
00:52:42.719 --> 00:52:46.639
<v Speaker 5>of basketball and then you are thrown into shark infested waters.

885
00:52:47.199 --> 00:52:49.599
<v Speaker 5>I mean you're like a deer learning how to walk

886
00:52:49.639 --> 00:52:51.159
<v Speaker 5>for the first time, you know what I mean, Or

887
00:52:51.280 --> 00:52:54.480
<v Speaker 5>like a horse that was just for Yeah, and it

888
00:52:54.599 --> 00:52:57.519
<v Speaker 5>takes some time for you to get those legs, backs

889
00:52:57.519 --> 00:52:59.199
<v Speaker 5>and legs, and.

890
00:52:59.119 --> 00:52:59.760
<v Speaker 1>It takes it.

891
00:53:00.039 --> 00:53:02.480
<v Speaker 5>It takes so much time for you to truly get

892
00:53:02.480 --> 00:53:05.880
<v Speaker 5>that coordination back. But guess what, you saw it at

893
00:53:05.880 --> 00:53:08.280
<v Speaker 5>the end of the right and you saw it, and

894
00:53:08.320 --> 00:53:10.840
<v Speaker 5>you saw it in flashes, and now we have a

895
00:53:10.920 --> 00:53:14.599
<v Speaker 5>whole summer to work with that. I think that kid's

896
00:53:14.599 --> 00:53:16.800
<v Speaker 5>going to have a massive breakout season.

897
00:53:16.840 --> 00:53:19.159
<v Speaker 1>I'm with you. I'm with you, Ken Spencer. My guess

898
00:53:19.159 --> 00:53:21.119
<v Speaker 1>we'll come back and talk more with Ken on the

899
00:53:21.119 --> 00:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>other side of the break here on six thirty WLAP

900
00:53:24.159 --> 00:53:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Welcome back with chatting with Ken Spencer. Sports director whas

901
00:53:27.559 --> 00:53:30.360
<v Speaker 1>over in Louisville. Who's been out at Churchill Downs? Have

902
00:53:30.480 --> 00:53:33.079
<v Speaker 1>you picked the Derby HORSEHD? Or are you somebody who

903
00:53:33.119 --> 00:53:35.719
<v Speaker 1>likes to see them all work or at least gallup

904
00:53:35.800 --> 00:53:36.840
<v Speaker 1>before you pick a horse?

905
00:53:37.800 --> 00:53:40.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I like to see them all on the track.

906
00:53:41.000 --> 00:53:43.199
<v Speaker 5>I like to kind of see their mentality, you know,

907
00:53:44.679 --> 00:53:48.400
<v Speaker 5>you know, how they're handling everything. You know this week,

908
00:53:48.960 --> 00:53:51.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, especially early on in the week, you know,

909
00:53:51.360 --> 00:53:54.800
<v Speaker 5>Churchill downs in the boarding. It doesn't feel like Derby

910
00:53:54.800 --> 00:53:56.880
<v Speaker 5>time yet, you know what I mean, like, oh yeah,

911
00:53:56.920 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 5>it doesn't have that, it doesn't have that buzz, right,

912
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:03.119
<v Speaker 5>that'll that'll start taking place later this week, but of

913
00:54:03.159 --> 00:54:07.159
<v Speaker 5>course all next week. And so I want to see,

914
00:54:07.360 --> 00:54:09.280
<v Speaker 5>you know, kind of how all of these horses are

915
00:54:09.519 --> 00:54:11.440
<v Speaker 5>are starting to kind of handle the bit. I like

916
00:54:11.480 --> 00:54:13.920
<v Speaker 5>to see them over the over the dirt before I

917
00:54:14.119 --> 00:54:16.639
<v Speaker 5>before I picked one. So I've got at this point,

918
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:18.679
<v Speaker 5>there's so many. I think it's kind of a wide

919
00:54:18.679 --> 00:54:21.559
<v Speaker 5>open field to be honest with you, uh, you know,

920
00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:23.519
<v Speaker 5>heading into this thing, you know, I don't think there's

921
00:54:23.559 --> 00:54:27.639
<v Speaker 5>a for for me. There's not somebody that that truly

922
00:54:27.679 --> 00:54:32.440
<v Speaker 5>stands out above the pack. Yeah, so I'm I'm gonna

923
00:54:32.440 --> 00:54:33.480
<v Speaker 5>be patient this year.

924
00:54:34.039 --> 00:54:37.039
<v Speaker 1>Got a boy. When you got into this line of work,

925
00:54:37.119 --> 00:54:39.840
<v Speaker 1>obviously you love covering football, you played it, you grew

926
00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.480
<v Speaker 1>up in Kentucky, so you're gonna love covering basketball and all.

927
00:54:42.960 --> 00:54:46.880
<v Speaker 1>Were you a racing fan? Because to me, I love

928
00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:48.719
<v Speaker 1>horse ran and grew up in Louisville. I've I've been

929
00:54:48.760 --> 00:54:52.239
<v Speaker 1>to you know, a zillion derbies, but to me, the

930
00:54:52.320 --> 00:54:55.519
<v Speaker 1>toughest sport to cover is horse racing because it has

931
00:54:55.559 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 1>a language of its own. Uh, it can be intimidating.

932
00:54:59.360 --> 00:55:01.199
<v Speaker 1>You know, of people you try to talk to, you

933
00:55:01.199 --> 00:55:03.800
<v Speaker 1>aren't used to being interviewed that kind of thing. And

934
00:55:04.039 --> 00:55:06.880
<v Speaker 1>some of the real hardcore beat writers, you know, they'll

935
00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:09.320
<v Speaker 1>give you a dirty look or whatever, for whatever that's worth.

936
00:55:09.639 --> 00:55:11.440
<v Speaker 1>But what was it like for you when you started

937
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:12.400
<v Speaker 1>covering horse racing?

938
00:55:14.400 --> 00:55:21.760
<v Speaker 5>So my first it's so funny because Kenny Wright, this

939
00:55:21.920 --> 00:55:25.239
<v Speaker 5>was back when I was working in Lexa, didn't going

940
00:55:25.239 --> 00:55:27.360
<v Speaker 5>out and doing things for the for the first time.

941
00:55:28.559 --> 00:55:31.119
<v Speaker 5>And then I went and did a Derby story one

942
00:55:31.119 --> 00:55:33.960
<v Speaker 5>time and Kenny Rice hooked it up and it was

943
00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:38.079
<v Speaker 5>with Todd Fletcher nice and this was this was early on,

944
00:55:38.280 --> 00:55:42.880
<v Speaker 5>and so Kenny was Kenny was great for me because

945
00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:45.199
<v Speaker 5>you know, at when when I was at thirty six,

946
00:55:45.280 --> 00:55:47.760
<v Speaker 5>he was he was the old sports director at thirty six,

947
00:55:48.280 --> 00:55:51.480
<v Speaker 5>and so he was he was just so welcoming and

948
00:55:51.840 --> 00:55:54.119
<v Speaker 5>really kind of helped me out of that regard. But

949
00:55:54.280 --> 00:55:56.480
<v Speaker 5>it is it's a it's a whole new world when

950
00:55:56.519 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 5>you go to the backside for the first time. You know, now,

951
00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:03.400
<v Speaker 5>I think it is it is a highlight of the year,

952
00:56:03.599 --> 00:56:07.679
<v Speaker 5>and this is the reason why because it is completely

953
00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 5>different than anything that we do during the course of

954
00:56:10.400 --> 00:56:14.440
<v Speaker 5>a year. And I enjoy talking to the trainers, you know,

955
00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:20.639
<v Speaker 5>from case in point, like last year, Brad Cox has

956
00:56:20.679 --> 00:56:26.639
<v Speaker 5>a son and my son was in the same baseball league.

957
00:56:27.000 --> 00:56:31.639
<v Speaker 5>Now different age groups. So last year, like at the

958
00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:35.079
<v Speaker 5>baseball field, like Brad and sat down with me and

959
00:56:35.119 --> 00:56:38.119
<v Speaker 5>my son and we just shot the bull for thirty

960
00:56:38.159 --> 00:56:41.320
<v Speaker 5>minutes just about stuff. And that's one of the most

961
00:56:41.559 --> 00:56:43.400
<v Speaker 5>We're now on the first trainers in the world right now,

962
00:56:44.559 --> 00:56:47.480
<v Speaker 5>and so it's just so different that I love it

963
00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:49.599
<v Speaker 5>and I've been able to kind of figure it out.

964
00:56:50.639 --> 00:56:53.440
<v Speaker 5>And obviously I've been doing this, you know, a hot minute,

965
00:56:53.800 --> 00:56:56.639
<v Speaker 5>and I love the different stories in the human interest

966
00:56:56.679 --> 00:56:59.960
<v Speaker 5>stories that you can find on the backside. I find

967
00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:04.079
<v Speaker 5>get different, but I almost find it very refreshing, you know,

968
00:57:04.159 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 5>after you get off the rigors of a college basketball season.

969
00:57:07.480 --> 00:57:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I agree. Just it's just a completely different feel. You're

970
00:57:11.360 --> 00:57:13.360
<v Speaker 1>out in the you know, for whatever it's worth, you're

971
00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.880
<v Speaker 1>out in the fresh air. You get it for it.

972
00:57:15.960 --> 00:57:18.639
<v Speaker 1>Getting up early is not fun if you're not used

973
00:57:18.639 --> 00:57:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to it, but I mean it gets you going on

974
00:57:21.440 --> 00:57:25.360
<v Speaker 1>your day. But I think the most important thing too, is, uh,

975
00:57:25.599 --> 00:57:28.079
<v Speaker 1>do a little homework, do a little research, you know,

976
00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.679
<v Speaker 1>And I know you do because when you go to

977
00:57:30.760 --> 00:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>talk to a brad Cox, you know, if you go

978
00:57:32.960 --> 00:57:35.440
<v Speaker 1>in there with what color is a gelding kind of questions,

979
00:57:36.199 --> 00:57:39.239
<v Speaker 1>you're going to lose somebody. And that's an over exaggeration,

980
00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:42.760
<v Speaker 1>but that question has been asked, not by one of us.

981
00:57:43.400 --> 00:57:45.559
<v Speaker 1>But you got to be ready, don't You got to

982
00:57:45.559 --> 00:57:46.159
<v Speaker 1>do your homework.

983
00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:49.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean you've got to know, you've got to

984
00:57:49.760 --> 00:57:52.119
<v Speaker 5>know about the horses that you're talking about, you've got

985
00:57:52.119 --> 00:57:53.840
<v Speaker 5>to know the you've got to know the language. And

986
00:57:53.960 --> 00:57:57.280
<v Speaker 5>some of that takes time, you know, to to kind

987
00:57:57.320 --> 00:58:02.000
<v Speaker 5>of get a really good feel of out that. But

988
00:58:02.000 --> 00:58:04.480
<v Speaker 5>but generally speaking, you know, most of the people that

989
00:58:04.559 --> 00:58:07.719
<v Speaker 5>you that you talk to and and I've seen you know,

990
00:58:08.079 --> 00:58:11.440
<v Speaker 5>maybe you know some some younger, some inexperienced folks come

991
00:58:11.519 --> 00:58:13.760
<v Speaker 5>back there. But you know what, even the people that

992
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:16.559
<v Speaker 5>make mistakes a lot of it, A lot of the trainers,

993
00:58:16.679 --> 00:58:21.480
<v Speaker 5>especially nowadays, they're a little bit more understanding, and you know,

994
00:58:21.519 --> 00:58:24.079
<v Speaker 5>they kind of help you along, they kind of help

995
00:58:24.119 --> 00:58:24.960
<v Speaker 5>them along the way.

996
00:58:24.960 --> 00:58:27.719
<v Speaker 1>That's right. They cut them some slack. Yeah, I think

997
00:58:27.800 --> 00:58:30.800
<v Speaker 1>trainers more and more, especially the younger guys like Brad Cox,

998
00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:34.000
<v Speaker 1>but really Wayne Lucas kind of led to charge on this.

999
00:58:34.480 --> 00:58:38.679
<v Speaker 1>They realize it's marketing. You know, horses can't talk, obviously,

1000
00:58:38.719 --> 00:58:40.719
<v Speaker 1>so it's up to the trainers and some of them

1001
00:58:40.760 --> 00:58:43.159
<v Speaker 1>would rather just keep their head down and go about

1002
00:58:43.159 --> 00:58:46.159
<v Speaker 1>their business. But most of these guys realize in this

1003
00:58:46.199 --> 00:58:49.800
<v Speaker 1>world today, you know, the the better they can present

1004
00:58:49.880 --> 00:58:52.679
<v Speaker 1>themselves and their horses, it makes them look better than

1005
00:58:52.679 --> 00:58:53.519
<v Speaker 1>their clients, doesn't it.

1006
00:58:54.280 --> 00:58:57.800
<v Speaker 5>Well, and think about it, like the competition that you

1007
00:58:58.000 --> 00:59:01.159
<v Speaker 5>have for for people and eyes, for people to have

1008
00:59:01.559 --> 00:59:04.920
<v Speaker 5>a certain and different things. You got it. You have

1009
00:59:05.000 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 5>to be accommodating today or there's no interest in the sport.

1010
00:59:09.039 --> 00:59:11.800
<v Speaker 5>And so you know, obviously there's there's always going to

1011
00:59:11.800 --> 00:59:14.559
<v Speaker 5>be a certain amount of betting interest, but and that's

1012
00:59:14.559 --> 00:59:17.239
<v Speaker 5>a and that's a big part of it. But you know,

1013
00:59:17.320 --> 00:59:21.440
<v Speaker 5>you need to be you need to reach out to

1014
00:59:21.519 --> 00:59:23.840
<v Speaker 5>the other side of things. And I think more and

1015
00:59:23.880 --> 00:59:26.000
<v Speaker 5>more traders are starting to pick up on that.

1016
00:59:26.119 --> 00:59:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Oh I couldn't agree more. He is Ken Spencer. He

1017
00:59:29.000 --> 00:59:31.119
<v Speaker 1>is the sports director at w H A s tell

1018
00:59:31.119 --> 00:59:32.840
<v Speaker 1>everybody how to read you on Twitter or.

1019
00:59:32.920 --> 00:59:37.000
<v Speaker 2>X at w H a S eleven Kent, just that simple.

1020
00:59:37.320 --> 00:59:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Hey, brother, be looking for you at the racetrack. Thanks

1021
00:59:39.400 --> 00:59:39.920
<v Speaker 1>for your time.

1022
00:59:40.599 --> 00:59:42.119
<v Speaker 5>Hey, can't wait to see your face, Bubba.

1023
00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 1>All right. I'll never forget how Kent filled some of

1024
00:59:46.159 --> 00:59:50.079
<v Speaker 1>his sportscast time during the pandemic when there weren't any

1025
00:59:50.400 --> 00:59:55.079
<v Speaker 1>organized sports to cover, shooting video of his children playing

1026
00:59:55.079 --> 00:59:58.480
<v Speaker 1>sports in the backyard and covering the event quote unquote,

1027
00:59:58.719 --> 01:00:01.639
<v Speaker 1>as though it were you, a real sporting event that

1028
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:05.119
<v Speaker 1>was absolutely brilliant. All right. Coming up next, it's the

1029
01:00:05.199 --> 01:00:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Nick benji Owne Show with our man Darren Hedrick. You

1030
01:00:07.880 --> 01:00:10.639
<v Speaker 1>heard Darren's side of things from Knoxville. Now you'll have

1031
01:00:10.679 --> 01:00:14.159
<v Speaker 1>a chance to hear Nick Benjione talk about Kentucky's series

1032
01:00:14.280 --> 01:00:18.440
<v Speaker 1>victory over the then second ranked Tennessee Balls, maybe putting

1033
01:00:18.440 --> 01:00:20.960
<v Speaker 1>the Wildcats back on the track they need. That's all

1034
01:00:20.960 --> 01:01:05.480
<v Speaker 1>ahead here on six thirty wlapping.

1035
01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:35.559
<v Speaker 4>Then think anything, then sat change tact that.

1036
01:01:39.880 --> 01:01:40.480
<v Speaker 1>I think

1037
01:01:43.400 --> 01:02:08.599
<v Speaker 4>Backstory plot telescopic
