Speaker 1: This is Gary and Shannon and you're listening to kf
Speaker 1: I A M six forty, the Gary and Shannon Show
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Speaker 2: Let's jump right into swamp Watch. Do do banana when
Speaker 2: I'm not kissing babies?
Speaker 3: I'm stealing that way. Thanks. Here we got.
Speaker 4: The real problem is that our leaders are done.
Speaker 1: The other side never quits.
Speaker 5: So what I'm not going anywhere so that you train the.
Speaker 2: SWAT I can imagine what can be and be unburdened
Speaker 2: by what has been.
Speaker 6: You know, amans have always been gone at President, They're
Speaker 6: not stupid.
Speaker 3: A political plunder is when a politician actually tells the truth.
Speaker 7: Have the people voted for you were not swamp Watch,
Speaker 7: they're all count of Well, let's go live to Joint
Speaker 7: Base Pearl Harbor Hickham in Hawaii, where Peak's Pete Hegsat,
Speaker 7: Secretary of Defense is speaking.
Speaker 8: Specific or Eric Carilla are general.
Speaker 4: In sitcom, they do attack plans and war plans, and
Speaker 4: thank god we have those leaders who do it and
Speaker 4: do it well, and our enemies know it. My job,
Speaker 4: as it said at top of that, everybody's seen it now,
Speaker 4: Team Update is to provide updates in real time, general
Speaker 4: updates in real time, keep everybody in form.
Speaker 3: That's what I did.
Speaker 4: That's my job.
Speaker 8: The warfighters will take the fight to the enemy and
Speaker 8: I love what they do. And with President Trump's leadership,
Speaker 8: our enemies are unnotice. We will have peace through strength,
Speaker 8: and we'll keep putting our troops first. Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Okay, So he is wearing a blue long sleeve dress shirt,
Speaker 1: but it's unbuttoned three buttons, so you see that the
Speaker 1: chest hair, the whole bit. He's wearing a ball cap.
Speaker 1: It is a military ball cap, camo hat with an
Speaker 1: American flag over the top of it. But here is somebody,
Speaker 1: Secretary of Defense, Pete hag Seth, who's got to come
Speaker 1: out and be credible and be the guy that you trust.
Speaker 1: After this conversation gets leaked and he looks like he's
Speaker 1: on spring break in Hawaii.
Speaker 2: Which is kind of a funny thing. I mean, because the.
Speaker 1: Optics are odd and it was a choice, make no
Speaker 1: doubt about it. That was a choice that somebody made.
Speaker 4: Well.
Speaker 2: But he's a very he's savvy, he's a TV guy.
Speaker 2: That's where he comes from. In fact, I mean most recently,
Speaker 2: that's his career.
Speaker 1: Sure, it's not tucked in.
Speaker 2: One of the things that you'll notice about when Pete
Speaker 2: Hegseth speaks to reporters, even in a gaggle like that,
Speaker 2: because this is at the bottom of the steps that
Speaker 2: lead up to his big airplane that he's on. Then
Speaker 2: they call that a gaggle when there's a handful of
Speaker 2: reporters that are standing around. He looked, I don't know
Speaker 2: if you caught it. At the very end there he's
Speaker 2: talking about, it's my job to be credible, and it's
Speaker 2: my job to help lead these men and women into
Speaker 2: the you know, into dangerous parts of the world. He's
Speaker 2: looking directly in the camera when he says that, not
Speaker 2: at the reporter. A lot of times you'll see the
Speaker 2: politicians or whatever, they'll defer and they'll make eye contact
Speaker 2: with the report TVs. He knows exactly what he's doing
Speaker 2: when he looks directly in the camera and says something
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: So President Trump, by the way, is holding a press
Speaker 1: conference today at one o'clock hour time, So make no
Speaker 1: doubt about it, he will address this. That's one thing
Speaker 1: with this president. There's never a question of will he
Speaker 1: address X.
Speaker 3: Y or Z either.
Speaker 2: Are they ever going to answer questions.
Speaker 1: I mean one, that's one concern you don't have.
Speaker 2: To have, Okay. So to follow up on this, this
Speaker 2: all the fallout from a journalist being included on this
Speaker 2: very high level text chain that involved battle plans for
Speaker 2: the bombing of the Hoothy rebels in Yemen that we
Speaker 2: perpetrated against them back on the fourteenth, fifteenth of March,
Speaker 2: and the result of that, the article that first came
Speaker 2: out yesterday said that there were some very specific and
Speaker 2: probably classified battle plans that were involved. What we've found
Speaker 2: out now is that there are different versions of what
Speaker 2: classified might actually mean to different agencies, and of course
Speaker 2: there are different heads of agencies that were in in
Speaker 2: that discussion. Pete Hegseth's defense has been listen. There were
Speaker 2: no locations, There were no specific targets like whether it
Speaker 2: was a person that was targeted or a building that
Speaker 2: was targeted. There was no specific there was no specific
Speaker 2: information in this text chain about where these airplanes were
Speaker 2: coming from. It's not a surprise that it was an
Speaker 2: F eighteen. It's not a surprise that there were MQ
Speaker 2: nine Reaper drones that were involved. That stuff is not
Speaker 2: a surprise. It's sensitive, but sensitive is not a classification
Speaker 2: when it comes to something like what can be shared
Speaker 2: and can't be shared. And I'm not making a defense
Speaker 2: for these people. This was an idiotic conversation to have
Speaker 2: over an app like signal, especially if you're not going
Speaker 2: to have the operational security of determining who's in the room.
Speaker 2: Remember the guy that was invited this, Jeffrey Goldberg, editor
Speaker 2: in chief of The Atlantic, was invited into the room,
Speaker 2: whether it was through a mistake oracle air for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: that was the thing that made this available to everybody
Speaker 2: in the world now, and that was the mistake. I
Speaker 2: don't think anybody's going to get in trouble for releasing
Speaker 2: classified information. Apparently this does not qualify as classified information
Speaker 2: that would get the Secretary of Defense in trouble or
Speaker 2: anybody else who may have been involved in the chat.
Speaker 2: But it is at very least sensitive, and the people
Speaker 2: responsible need to bear some sort of punishment as a
Speaker 2: result of it, not just I've learned my lesson.
Speaker 1: Well, what is the punishment if you're not fired? What's
Speaker 1: the punishment that I don't know? I agree, I mean
Speaker 1: almost I've never heard of such a thing. If you're
Speaker 1: not fired, there is no punishment.
Speaker 2: You could that could be the thing that the President
Speaker 2: says today at one o'clock, is Mike Waltz tender to.
Speaker 1: Think get video games? He doesn't get his iPad for
Speaker 1: for two.
Speaker 2: Weeks, possibly retired to the Sanata Colonel guy named Darren Bogg,
Speaker 2: former Blackhawk pilot, former battalion commander. He talked about the
Speaker 2: Obviously this is an important thing because it is sensitive
Speaker 2: at the very least, but they know how to use signal.
Speaker 2: They are all taught early on how to use an
Speaker 2: app like this.
Speaker 6: That needs to be part of the investigation and have
Speaker 6: that question asked clearly, that needs to be answered.
Speaker 2: That question, of course being who is ultimately responsible. Was
Speaker 2: it Mike Waltz or was it a staffer?
Speaker 6: And very clearly to the American people, I believe in accountability.
Speaker 6: It doesn't matter which party or which side of the
Speaker 6: platform people come from. So let's take a look at
Speaker 6: it and let's come to a very clear answer on it.
Speaker 6: We absolutely need to. The other thing, though, is that
Speaker 6: signal was authorized for use because of its encryption and
Speaker 6: because of certain things you could pass that may have
Speaker 6: been unclassified. But that doesn't necessarily mean that you're going
Speaker 6: to throw it out there in front of the world
Speaker 6: for everybody to see. That's also not a smart conclusion either.
Speaker 6: But my advice to the people when I was in
Speaker 6: command and using signal was very simple. Assume that someone
Speaker 6: can see this that you don't want to, and you'll
Speaker 6: always be careful in what you share.
Speaker 1: I don't know how signal works, but in a group text,
Speaker 1: for me, I can see who is on the group text. Now,
Speaker 1: sometimes a picture won't come up, or a name and
Speaker 1: that's number. It'll just be a number or somebody that
Speaker 1: I don't know who's in the group text, right. I'm
Speaker 1: also not sharing a national sensitive information if we can.
Speaker 2: Call it that.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about football or something like that. But it
Speaker 1: is up to everyone. I mean, I'm assuming if I
Speaker 1: was to be sharing sensitive information, I'd sure as hell
Speaker 1: look at the top of the screen to make sure
Speaker 1: who was in that group chat, just to make sure.
Speaker 1: You can't just take that for granted that the people
Speaker 1: who are in the chat are supposed to be there.
Speaker 2: Well, if you uh to make it super personal, well yes,
Speaker 2: you could ruin relationships though, I mean, think about longtime relationships.
Speaker 2: If you said something snotty about someone's husband or their
Speaker 2: kid or something like that, and the wrong people heard it,
Speaker 2: you could ruin a relationship. What we're talking We're not
Speaker 2: talking national party in those cases.
Speaker 1: I'm talking about like I'm in a well, okay, one
Speaker 1: group chat. It involves a couple girlfriends and husbands and
Speaker 1: a couple sisters or whatever, and it's primarily based off
Speaker 1: of like kids stuff or football or Bay area whatever.
Speaker 1: You know. I know theory. I know who's in that
Speaker 1: group chat based off the context of the group chat
Speaker 1: had I been, so I'm not looking for people that
Speaker 1: I would offend in that because I know pretty much
Speaker 1: who's in it.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: These guys probably think, if this is the topic, that
Speaker 1: they know who the group who's in the group chat, right,
Speaker 1: or they know who should be or they know who
Speaker 1: should be and most importantly who shouldn't be.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: Nobody went through and looked at zactly who's involved. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that's the.
Speaker 1: Which is the problem with the group chat.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know how it goes from this point on.
Speaker 2: I don't know if Mike Waltz joins that trip to Greenland.
Speaker 2: I don't know if he lays low for a while.
Speaker 2: I don't think he should be fired.
Speaker 1: I mean, they're all dumbasses for engaging in that and
Speaker 1: not double checking who was in the group chat.
Speaker 2: But I don't know what other punishment there would be.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know enough.
Speaker 2: He's ridiculously embarrassed right now, you can tell Yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know enough about him to know is but he's
Speaker 2: the one who sent the emojis.
Speaker 1: I mean he should be fired for that alone. The
Speaker 1: American flag with the with their fist and the fire
Speaker 1: come on the other Uh, just for a week emoji game.
Speaker 2: Did you hear about Governor hot Wheels? No?
Speaker 1: But did you no? Go on tell me we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that, Okay. I also have Dodgers political news, political news.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from
Speaker 5: KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Justin Worsham, host of the Dad Podcast, will be joining
Speaker 1: us coming up in moments. We'll be talking about parenting
Speaker 1: like we do with Justin every week. Today. The conversation.
Speaker 1: We kind of touched on it last week but realized
Speaker 1: it was a much bigger conversation to be had. When
Speaker 1: to take your kid's side versus when to take the
Speaker 1: teacher side? What a delicate dance, that is.
Speaker 2: Jasmin Crockett is a congresswoman out of the state of Texas.
Speaker 1: You usually don't sigh like that.
Speaker 2: I know, and I don't mean to be dramatic. She
Speaker 2: represents the thirtieth Congressional district or, as they say in Texas.
Speaker 2: The fight in thirtieth covers parts of Dallas County and
Speaker 2: Arrant County. She the other day, Saturday, specifically here in
Speaker 2: southern California, referred to Texas Governor Greg Abbott as Governor
Speaker 2: hot wheels. Do you know what particular physical ailment Governor
Speaker 2: Greg Abbot has, no the paralysis from the waist down.
Speaker 2: It's so he's been in a wheelchair for many many
Speaker 2: I did not know in these hot ass Texas streets.
Speaker 3: Honey, y'all know we got governor high wheels down there.
Speaker 2: Come on, now, y'all know we got Governor high wheels
Speaker 2: down there. Come on, now, hot wheels.
Speaker 1: Has the governor ever referred to himself as that?
Speaker 2: No, he may, Now I would if I was him,
Speaker 2: I'd start making posters with that little guy in a wheelchair,
Speaker 2: Governor hot wheels. You kidding?
Speaker 1: I love hot wheels, he went on last night. I
Speaker 1: still give my brother hot wheels, hot wheels.
Speaker 2: Last night on TV, he said, it's another sad day,
Speaker 2: another disaster for Democrats. They have no vision, no policy,
Speaker 2: nothing to sell but hate, and Americans aren't buying it.
Speaker 2: She went on to say, I wasn't talking about the
Speaker 2: governor's condition. I was thinking about the planes, trains and
Speaker 2: automobiles he used to transfer migrants into communities led by
Speaker 2: black mayors. Keep that same energy for all people, not
Speaker 2: just your political adversaries, she says.
Speaker 1: The Los Angeles Dodgers will be going to the White House.
Speaker 1: I heard on a station this morning that wasn't ours,
Speaker 1: a reporter who does a very good job doing man
Speaker 1: on the street interviews of Dodger fans, asking what they
Speaker 1: think about this. I thought, how ridiculous, how ridiculous. You
Speaker 1: are playing into the decisive vibe in this country right now.
Speaker 1: How dumb.
Speaker 2: But whatever.
Speaker 1: I'm not the managing editor of that place, But anyway,
Speaker 1: the LA Dodgers will accept Trump's invitation to the White
Speaker 1: House to celebrate their twenty twenty four World Series title,
Speaker 1: as they should. It made me proud of the Dodgers
Speaker 1: to do this despite being in a blue state, a
Speaker 1: blue city where there's a lot of people who love
Speaker 1: the Dodgers that hate this administration. It's nice to see
Speaker 1: them rise above politics and go to the White House
Speaker 1: for what it is, which is a sign of America.
Speaker 2: It's a celebration of the team, the.
Speaker 1: Celebration of the team and putting politics aside. They'll visit
Speaker 1: April seventh, before opening a series at the Nationals. They
Speaker 1: will visit it. They will visit Capitol Hill on the eighth.
Speaker 1: Dave Roberts called it a huge honor that each champion
Speaker 1: gets to experience. He said deciding to go to the
Speaker 1: White House was not a formal conversation he and the
Speaker 1: players had.
Speaker 2: So twenty seventeen, twenty nineteen, when did the Red Sox win.
Speaker 2: When Mookie was on the Red Sox, he said he
Speaker 2: wasn't going to go to the White House when Trump
Speaker 2: was in office. Dave Roberts had also said they weren't
Speaker 2: going to go during COVID when they won in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty that half season that they played or third of
Speaker 2: a season, whatever it was, and he said he wasn't
Speaker 2: going to go. When he was asked about that, Hey,
Speaker 2: you said before you wouldn't go if Trump was in office,
Speaker 2: Dave Roberts coyly said, didn't I yeah, and then basically like,
Speaker 2: we got to stop doing that, We got to stop
Speaker 2: doing that. He wants to celebrate the team. It's not
Speaker 2: an endorsement of him going on exactly. There is a
Speaker 2: very sad story that we're following, and unfortunately we don't
Speaker 2: have a lot of details about it just yet. Four
Speaker 2: Army soldiers US Army soldiers went missing during a training
Speaker 2: exercise in Lithuania. NATO's Secretary General had come out and
Speaker 2: said that they died. That's all we know. Mark Rutti
Speaker 2: rout As, the NATO Secretary General, said, this is still
Speaker 2: early news. We do not know the details. Officials announced
Speaker 2: a search was underway for the service members. Earlier in
Speaker 2: the day. They were taking part in scheduled tactical training
Speaker 2: outside of the capital city of Vilnius, and they said
Speaker 2: that they were searching for a vehicle that had gone
Speaker 2: missing today or yesterday.
Speaker 3: Sorry.
Speaker 2: The four soldiers and the vehicle were reported missing yesterday
Speaker 2: during an exercise in Pabrade, which is a town near
Speaker 2: the Belarussian border.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Belarus, of course is a ally of Russia and has
Speaker 1: a very bad relationship, right now with Lithuania lot via Estonian.
Speaker 2: As an accident. They said that they were there, there's
Speaker 2: swampy land in that area. They may have rolled over,
Speaker 2: become trapped, that kind of thing, but that all those
Speaker 2: details have yet to be yet to be made clear.
Speaker 1: So all right, Gary and Shannon will continue justin Worsham
Speaker 1: will join us. Have years Has your kid ever gone
Speaker 1: to a fight with the teacher where you're like, my
Speaker 1: kid's got a point, And then it's like, how do
Speaker 1: you teach your kid to respect authority but at the
Speaker 1: same time holding your ground? Do you go to back? Oh?
Speaker 1: My gosh, so many questions. We'll get into it when
Speaker 1: we come back.
Speaker 5: You're listening to Gary and Shannon on demand from KFI.
Speaker 5: AM six forty.
Speaker 1: Mentioned it a couple of weeks ago, a series that
Speaker 1: came out on Netflix for episode series, each episode done
Speaker 1: in one shot. We made a big deal of how
Speaker 1: cool it was when the Bear finale one season was
Speaker 1: done in one shot and the intensity that brings. Well,
Speaker 1: this series is intense alone, you add the layer of
Speaker 1: just one shot and it becomes even more so intense.
Speaker 1: The subject matters very hard. It's a very difficult show
Speaker 1: to watch, but it's done extremely well. We'll be talking
Speaker 1: about adolescents coming up in the next hour.
Speaker 2: Somebody pointed out the Dodgers weren't going to go to
Speaker 2: the White House until they were invited to the White House.
Speaker 2: That's usually how the White House works. Just so everybody knows,
Speaker 2: you can't just go to the White House and knock
Speaker 2: on the door. Well you can, No, I can't. It's
Speaker 2: kind of funny. No one can.
Speaker 1: No. I mean, you can go take a tour of
Speaker 1: the White House, sure, but.
Speaker 2: You're not going to just anyway.
Speaker 1: You're not going to be a visitor with the President
Speaker 1: of the United States without an invitation.
Speaker 2: You can't call and say he could he could he
Speaker 2: squeeze me in for like ten or fifteen, just a
Speaker 2: quick ten.
Speaker 3: I love the idea of the Los Angeles.
Speaker 2: Though, Elmer, give me that. There you go, No, try
Speaker 2: it again.
Speaker 3: What does it?
Speaker 2: Turn it up?
Speaker 6: Check?
Speaker 2: Check it is that even plugged in? Looks like it's
Speaker 2: plugged in.
Speaker 1: This I should be burned down.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should seriously try that one.
Speaker 1: Turn the entire place to the floor.
Speaker 2: Lord, No, it's not.
Speaker 1: Still it's not working, Elmer, what's happening here? Should we
Speaker 1: burnt Elmer, do you have a lighter? Do you have matches?
Speaker 3: This is not Over's fault. I know for a fact
Speaker 3: this is not Over's.
Speaker 2: Fault because they're both on Yeah, and I'm talking right up.
Speaker 1: I'm just asking for a fire starter from Elmer at
Speaker 1: this point.
Speaker 3: He's already got a fire in there. The poor guy.
Speaker 3: He's sitting there and maybe there's an engineer listening. He's
Speaker 3: running around like crazy. I don't know. Uh, you want
Speaker 3: me to stop talking.
Speaker 2: Senior technical advisor to the show, Jacob Gonzalez is now
Speaker 2: on it, and it appears that we are closer.
Speaker 3: Okay, at that nicely DoD Jacob for the Everyone can.
Speaker 2: Post it note over that button. Whatever it was, just
Speaker 2: so we know program four is what it was in
Speaker 2: my day. Yeah.
Speaker 3: What I was going to say is that I love
Speaker 3: the idea of the La Dodgers showing up for just
Speaker 3: a White House tour like that would be.
Speaker 2: That's how they all got carrying the World Series trophy, just.
Speaker 3: Walking around, no appointment, no plans to meet the president.
Speaker 3: Just I'm just here to see.
Speaker 9: Some portraits, justin I wanted to talk to you about baseball,
Speaker 9: Yes you would, so we touched about this last week
Speaker 9: and realized it's a much longer conversation.
Speaker 1: Your kid gets in trouble with a teacher. Your teacher
Speaker 1: put your kid in trouble, and your kid comes home
Speaker 1: and tells you the story, and you're like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: kid's got a point.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I started going through a bunch of like, what I
Speaker 3: found is is that there's obviously not a lot of
Speaker 3: research on this. What I found is a lot of
Speaker 3: anecdotal experience from both the teacher side and like parent
Speaker 3: bloggers and stuff. So I've kind of like, I'm just
Speaker 3: gathering all this information and this is what I've kind
Speaker 3: of sussed it out to be. I think the first
Speaker 3: step you have to do if you have an issue
Speaker 3: with your teacher and your kid, or they have an
Speaker 3: issue with each other, whatever that is, you have to
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of it, right. You have to
Speaker 3: start asking questions. And I think what I've heard from
Speaker 3: my I'm very involved in both of the schools, so
Speaker 3: I know a lot of the admin, I know a
Speaker 3: lot of the teachers, the staff, And what seems to
Speaker 3: be a common thing that parents like to do is
Speaker 3: they go directly to the principal and if they don't
Speaker 3: like what the principal says, They go directly to the superintendent.
Speaker 3: Superintendent probably doesn't know your kid's name right exactly, but
Speaker 3: you know who does. And this is the other thing too,
Speaker 3: is like I had my son was having an issue
Speaker 3: with another student at his elementary school. They were in
Speaker 3: this like chess club after school because my son is
Speaker 3: super cool.
Speaker 1: And chess is actually very cool.
Speaker 3: Right now, my bad, this was ten years ago. Was
Speaker 3: it cool?
Speaker 4: Then?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Okay cool?
Speaker 9: So I tried to just a big nerd then maybe
Speaker 9: I just accidentally was sarcastic.
Speaker 3: So anyway, the kid like hit him, literally hit him,
Speaker 3: and my son was like, he slapped me, and I
Speaker 3: was like, okay. So I went into the office and
Speaker 3: I said, there's this young man. I don't know his
Speaker 3: name because my son didn't know him, and they knew
Speaker 3: his first his last name at the front desk, right,
Speaker 3: so like they know the people have the school know
Speaker 3: the kids that are the problems. There's like five of
Speaker 3: them in reschool. So the way you go about doing that, like,
Speaker 3: so now you're going to talk to the teacher. I
Speaker 3: always go to get the teacher side of things. So
Speaker 3: I send an email directly to the teacher and say, hey,
Speaker 3: I just want to ask a question because this is
Speaker 3: what I'm seeing, and I try to put in there like,
Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to be a teacher when I
Speaker 3: was a kid. You know, you're sucking up. I think
Speaker 3: my son is awesome, but I know he's not an angel.
Speaker 2: Well, you don't want to. You don't want to come
Speaker 2: across as the biased, the biased parent. You don't want
Speaker 2: to become. You don't want to come across someone who's
Speaker 2: anti teacher because that will that will put I mean
Speaker 2: not just a teacher, but you don't want to put
Speaker 2: that person on the defensive.
Speaker 3: I call them pitchfork and torch bearers. They're a lot,
Speaker 3: especially here in their bank. There are lots of parents
Speaker 3: who led to gather their pitchforks and torches and head
Speaker 3: to a school board meeting and get justice.
Speaker 1: That's awful.
Speaker 3: It's awful. It's really not good, even if they're right.
Speaker 3: To be honest, it's not good.
Speaker 2: It's not good, especially when it conflicts with their HOA meetings.
Speaker 3: They don't know what to do.
Speaker 1: Lemon yellow or canary yellow? What are we outlining?
Speaker 3: They they divide a cocker. You're going to go to ja,
Speaker 3: I got this board. So then after I get feedback
Speaker 3: from the teacher, then I go to my kid and
Speaker 3: I start asking my kid questions. I found that if
Speaker 3: you ask your kid five or six questions about what's
Speaker 3: going on with their teacher, that you can suss out
Speaker 3: how valid this is, because when they're they're kids, they're
Speaker 3: horrible at lying. I was gone this weekend, right, I
Speaker 3: helped chaperone a trip.
Speaker 1: For some sort of illness.
Speaker 3: No, I just lost my voice. Oh, actually from yelling
Speaker 3: and not yelling at scolding, but just projecting, projecting, projecting
Speaker 3: of course the vast massive.
Speaker 1: Are you in England?
Speaker 3: No, I just went there for a minute. I wanted
Speaker 3: to feel cool chess for a change. So anyway, there
Speaker 3: was a kid who I think he was messing around.
Speaker 3: That's my theory. If his parents are listening, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I'm just using this as an example because it came up.
Speaker 3: He got hurt, and he may or may not been
Speaker 3: like messing around in the gym at the hotel. Right,
Speaker 3: I just started asking him. I asked him three questions.
Speaker 3: After I asked him three questions, I kind of had
Speaker 3: an idea of what was going on, and as soon
Speaker 3: as I connected with his mother. His mother had an
Speaker 3: idea of what was going on. Do we have absolute
Speaker 3: hard evidence, No, we don't. Does it really matter? Not really,
Speaker 3: But my point is is that you, as a parent,
Speaker 3: you can feel it in your gut when your kid.
Speaker 3: Did you ever have a moment where your kids lied
Speaker 3: to you, Gary and you kind of knew it? Or
Speaker 3: did you not have that?
Speaker 2: We always knew, I shouldn't. I should say we always knew.
Speaker 2: We assumed that a lot of times what they were
Speaker 2: going to say was lies. Oh and we actually we
Speaker 2: talked about and it's just a natural thing. Like I
Speaker 2: lied as a kid to my parents, I assumed that
Speaker 2: my kids would lie to me about certain things. We
Speaker 2: said something very early on, and it worked a lot longer,
Speaker 2: and we thought it would. Whenever you lie, there's a
Speaker 2: little piece of your forehead that turns red. It was
Speaker 2: like a little spot on your forehead that would turn
Speaker 2: red and and we would we would call it your
Speaker 2: mommy dot. And whenever you started to tell a lie,
Speaker 2: it would get red. And the more lie you told,
Speaker 2: the brighter it would get.
Speaker 3: You gave them a Pavlovia tell like you said, you
Speaker 3: here's how it works.
Speaker 1: I mean it's like, if you pee in the pool,
Speaker 1: it turns out that.
Speaker 2: Was between two and four years old, something like that.
Speaker 2: For many years, they would when you'd ask questions about whatever,
Speaker 2: like who broke the lamp. I don't know if that
Speaker 2: ever happened in our house, but there was a lot
Speaker 2: of this. They would like literally lean into their try
Speaker 2: to cover their mommy dot when they were to answer
Speaker 2: the question.
Speaker 3: I love that their adults nout, so it doesn't matter
Speaker 3: that this information is out there and.
Speaker 1: It's not that far off though, because a physical response
Speaker 1: is turning red.
Speaker 2: Sure, and then I mean that was part of the
Speaker 2: reason why we did it, was to at least give
Speaker 2: them some pause when they were about to lie right Oh,
Speaker 2: they're going to find out, which was also another tell
Speaker 2: if they didn't answer the question right away, they're trying
Speaker 2: to figure out how can they get away with their
Speaker 2: you know, their mommy dot not showing.
Speaker 1: That's so funny. I love that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so if you want, we can talk more
Speaker 3: about what to do once you find out that your
Speaker 3: kid is lying, and what to do if you found
Speaker 3: out your kid is telling the truth.
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Speaker 1: Not to say, if you're in LA, they don't even
Speaker 1: show up. Swatter come on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's a lot to go to.
Speaker 1: The suburbs for that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Justin Warsham has joined us. We're talking about the very
Speaker 2: sticky issue of let's say, hypothetically your kid gets in
Speaker 2: trouble with a teacher or has some sort of conflict
Speaker 2: with the teacher. How do you know which side to
Speaker 2: take in those instances?
Speaker 3: So we talked about getting to the bottom of what's
Speaker 3: going on by really, I think you first get your
Speaker 3: teacher's side, right, the kid's teacher side, and then you
Speaker 3: go back and you ask your kid questions.
Speaker 1: How do you say that? Though get your teacher's side,
Speaker 1: you can't say, like, now, what's your side of the story,
Speaker 1: missus Brown? You have to be like, so, what happened? Right?
Speaker 3: I always send an email and say, this guy, this
Speaker 3: is what I'm hearing. Right, I'm hearing this from my son.
Speaker 3: And I always end every email that I've ever sent
Speaker 3: to a teacher, which is honestly very few. I said,
Speaker 3: I go.
Speaker 2: Thank you for your service.
Speaker 3: You're a hero. Oh now I have offended teacher. Sorry,
Speaker 3: all right, listen, I'm gonna be honest, like not all
Speaker 3: of them, Mark probably.
Speaker 1: I got a Facebook message from a guy who my
Speaker 1: dad taught him in the early eighties. He sent me
Speaker 1: a Facebook message a couple of weeks ago. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to let you know your dad was my all
Speaker 1: time favorite teacher. And that was in the early eight
Speaker 1: forty years ago.
Speaker 3: Most of us are lucky to have three, right, because
Speaker 3: it's like any job, there's a there's a small.
Speaker 1: Percentage there their their their impact live es of course.
Speaker 3: So every email I end was saying, you know, it
Speaker 3: is not lost on me that my child is not
Speaker 3: an angel. So I just want to feel free to
Speaker 3: get okay, Like because when I was young, I wanted
Speaker 3: to be a teacher, and so I got to hang out.
Speaker 3: When I was literally in third grade, I would hang
Speaker 3: out in the teacher's lounge. And after I did that
Speaker 3: for a few months, you become kind of wallpaper and
Speaker 3: you get to hear what they really say about parents
Speaker 3: and what they think, and that was very impactful.
Speaker 2: And you were invited into this c cha room. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: I got to I hung out in the teacher's lounge too,
Speaker 2: because my mom was a teacher.
Speaker 3: No, no, I went to a year round school three
Speaker 3: months on, one month off, and I wanted to be
Speaker 3: an elementary school teacher. And I befriended for how much
Speaker 3: an eight year old can befriend a forty year old
Speaker 3: this teacher, and she would let me come in and
Speaker 3: help her class. They were like lower and I would
Speaker 3: like run errands. I would make I use the ditto machine.
Speaker 3: And during that time, my favorite part was I got
Speaker 3: to use the restroom in the teacher's lounge. She would
Speaker 3: let me. And it was funny because after I'd done it,
Speaker 3: I literally did this for like five years. I did
Speaker 3: it into middle school. I stopped in high school because
Speaker 3: a thing happened. What was it, girls, Yeah, that was yeah,
Speaker 3: all of a sudden that became way more interesting than
Speaker 3: hanging out. That was some elementary school kids. And so
Speaker 3: they were just they go, well, you could use the
Speaker 3: restruman here if you want. I'm like, no, I'd never
Speaker 3: have used the privilege when I was actually there as
Speaker 3: a student. It was only when I was there as
Speaker 3: a helper. But anyway, that gave me tons of I
Speaker 3: feel insight into what they go through, and so I
Speaker 3: always say, like, I don't want to be that parent,
Speaker 3: but I always add that thing like, I know my
Speaker 3: kid's not an angel. I just want to try to
Speaker 3: figure it out. And that has worked. Most of the
Speaker 3: time that I've emailed teachers, it's been my kid who's
Speaker 3: screwing up, but a couple of times it was the
Speaker 3: teacher and they're just being a jerk.
Speaker 2: I've had an experience like that, and it's many many
Speaker 2: years ago, and it was ten ten years ago now,
Speaker 2: but my son was in high school and was accused
Speaker 2: of doing something that I didn't think he did. He
Speaker 2: had put together a video that they thought was a
Speaker 2: big deal. I didn't think it was a big deal.
Speaker 2: They thought that he was going after some teachers or
Speaker 2: whatever making fun of him and all that sort of
Speaker 2: stuff othering them and the teachers themselves were not the
Speaker 2: ones that were the concern. It was administrators, and it
Speaker 2: was administrators who had things like they had degree ease in.
Speaker 3: Psycholocial socials.
Speaker 2: It's just the squishy ones, the squishy majors, the squishy degrees.
Speaker 2: And it became one of those issues where I said Listen,
Speaker 2: I don't condone what he did. He was making Joe.
Speaker 2: It was a series of jokes for his buddies, and
Speaker 2: he wanted to put it on YouTube and wanted to
Speaker 2: see how many views he could get, right, And one
Speaker 2: of the issues was that it had so many views
Speaker 2: on YouTube. It had one hundred and fifty or two
Speaker 2: hundred views on YouTube. And when you look into the
Speaker 2: statistics of how many of those views came from within
Speaker 2: my own house, which took a quarter of a second
Speaker 2: of research to figure out. A hold on a second,
Speaker 2: and I remember saying to the administrators, listen, you guys
Speaker 2: are afraid that this is something widespread. Out of one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty views of this video, one hundred and
Speaker 2: forty seven of them originate from the IP address that
Speaker 2: is my house. Now, how in the world do you
Speaker 2: think this is widespread other than him clicking start on
Speaker 2: that video to get the number of views up to
Speaker 2: make it think you think that they was being viewed
Speaker 2: over and over again.
Speaker 1: Well, from my recollection of this incident from your life,
Speaker 1: it was also very la and very apropos of this
Speaker 1: topic because he was doing something for comedic value and
Speaker 1: it was very funny very funny. If he took that
Speaker 1: to late night writers, they would have been like that's
Speaker 1: good stuff. Yeah, fun But in Hollywood it would have
Speaker 1: been great, right, because that's the stuff. It's in your backyard,
Speaker 1: it's what you're exposed to. But under the microscope of
Speaker 1: the Public Policy Institute Majors or whatever, they were like,
Speaker 1: this is incendiary, you know, like this is a threat.
Speaker 1: And it was like, no, it's good natured comedy. It's comedy,
Speaker 1: and so like from that aspect as a parent, it's like,
Speaker 1: you know, your kid's creative, this borderline pretty genius for
Speaker 1: the age that this kid was. And they're telling you
Speaker 1: that the kid's a threat or something. It's like f
Speaker 1: and you like, I would have lot like That's why
Speaker 1: I kind of wanted to talk about it too, because
Speaker 1: how do you not lose it when it's just a
Speaker 1: difference of opinion. It's not like black or white, right
Speaker 1: or wrong. It's the way that you're looking at it
Speaker 1: versus the way they're looking at.
Speaker 3: Very few people in education, in my experience, are big
Speaker 3: fans of satire about education, right they do. They don't
Speaker 3: have that idea, And it's I don't know that I
Speaker 3: honestly have the answer.
Speaker 1: I know that.
Speaker 3: I can tell you that I've had incidences where the
Speaker 3: teacher got offended because of something that my kid did.
Speaker 3: And what I told the teacher is I go, this
Speaker 3: is a person like it was because he challenged her.
Speaker 3: He told her she was wrong and she was wrong,
Speaker 3: but he didn't lie. She didn't. And I said, here's
Speaker 3: what the thing. We can agree that the way he
Speaker 3: told you was wrong, you were wrong, was wrong. He
Speaker 3: did it disrespectfully by just yelling you're wrong, but that's
Speaker 3: what he did. Yeah, but he's a kindergartener when it happened,
Speaker 3: and I said, what he should have done is raise
Speaker 3: this and said you were wrong. Can we agree on that?
Speaker 3: This is what I told her.
Speaker 1: She's like it was weird, but he was like, you're
Speaker 1: wrong and you're a woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's why you're wrong. And my father told me,
Speaker 3: and my father.
Speaker 5: Knows best, but your point how to breast if.
Speaker 2: You remember, And I love him for it.
Speaker 3: And I will do the same for my incompetent wife.
Speaker 2: But like you said, you said that these administrators and teachers,
Speaker 2: they all they know, they know who the bad ones are.
Speaker 2: They know they they know the ones that are gonna
Speaker 2: have they're gonna have to keep their eyes on. That
Speaker 2: became an issue too because the teacher that was involved
Speaker 2: in this video or that was shown in the video,
Speaker 2: She's like, I just thought he was such a nice guy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, he is. He is a nice guy.
Speaker 2: He loved your class. Your immediate gut reaction is one
Speaker 2: percent correct. Stop listening to these people over here, get
Speaker 2: their feelings hurt by stuff and acknowledge of it. I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't even do you know do you know that
Speaker 2: silly meme where those I'm gonna sound like such a
Speaker 2: grandpa here, those old six little sunglasses, like you did
Speaker 2: something cool and they kind of fall down under your
Speaker 2: head and you did something cool. That's what he did
Speaker 2: to her, like like he loved her. And then he
Speaker 2: put the sunglasses that came down after she described some
Speaker 2: historical thing event from World War two.
Speaker 3: Like it was a mic drop, and she took it
Speaker 3: as he's making fun of.
Speaker 2: You know, she didn't she had no clue what it meant.
Speaker 2: She didn't know anything.
Speaker 3: She's like that, that's horrible.
Speaker 2: And then the administrator was trying to tell her like, oh,
Speaker 2: he's got it out for you.
Speaker 1: You know what, we should get our pitchforks.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what completely changed my mind. You're getting
Speaker 3: a piece of my mind today, mister Newt.
Speaker 1: I can see being a pitchfork person is what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 1: I get it.
Speaker 3: Have you Yeah?
Speaker 2: Have you seen Adolescents on Netflix? Oh my god, you're
Speaker 2: going to want to listen twelve twenty. We're going to talk.
Speaker 3: About that show. It's fun.
Speaker 1: I told you, even though you don't remember, I told
Speaker 1: you know to watch it.
Speaker 3: Can I say one quick thing before you go that
Speaker 3: I think is very important. Don't try to get your
Speaker 3: kid out of the teacher's class right away. Be aware
Speaker 3: of what that says to your kid, because that's going
Speaker 3: to give them empowerment that you may not want them
Speaker 3: to have. Yes, that shouldn't be the first recourse, and
Speaker 3: that's a lot of parents first recourse. That's not a
Speaker 3: good movement.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't remind kids.
Speaker 3: By dealing with an a hole that could teach you
Speaker 3: a lot.
Speaker 1: That's my whole problem. We hear everyone, stay what that
Speaker 1: was my problem with the me too movement? You can't
Speaker 1: remove all the a holes that are going to show
Speaker 1: you their penis to learn to deal with them.
Speaker 3: Somebody isolated, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I just I mean no, no, all right, you're missing
Speaker 1: the point.
Speaker 2: I'll show you the never mind. That's stop it, Gary Shannon,
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