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Speaker 1: It's another dark day afternoon, you fucking asshole. Welcome to

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the crime pager. Body doesn't podcast. I'm driving, as you

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could probably hear from the road noise on here on

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Old I ten. We're headed west on I ten. We're

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going through West Texas. It's a beautiful land. You can look,

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but you can't touch because it's all private. Of course,

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anyone that grows up in Texas has no idea how

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abnormal that is, or shit the entire eastern half of

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the United States. Anyway, I'm going to the New Mexico

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Mycological Society COMOS say d nice meet up. It should

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be fun. I'm gonna do a presentation Ellen, Ellen, my

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friend Allan Rockefeller is gonna be there Mandy as well.

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But anyway, we'll stay in West Texas tonight. By we,

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I mean me and the dogs. I didn't see the

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dogs for three goddamn weeks. Javier was watching them. It's

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very kind of them. But we're reunited and now we're

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just blazing through the ninety eighth degree West Texas sun

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to go. We'll stay in West Texas night and then

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you have be in New Mexico. New Mexico is always

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so nice. It's a wonderful thing about Texas is that

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it's so close to New Mexico. And then of course

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when you to New Mexico, there's public land everywhere and

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a lot of cool shit. I remember spending a few

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days in the Capitan Range, in a little bit north

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of where I'm going Epithy, Atlanta. Micromeris a little golf

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ball cactus grows on the limestone out there. There's a

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disjunct population, and I found this nice spot. It was

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like the kind of spot where if you're rolling around

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in your truck, you got a campushell on it. You

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got a fucking mattress back there, you got a cooler

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and one of those you know, something to sit on,

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a little milk rate or leaving a fucking lawnchair. Yeah,

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you can travel. I even advise traveling with the little desk,

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one of those portable aluminum desks. You can get him cheap,

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like thirty bucks, and you set up a little you know.

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I I camped out there for a while under this

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giant oak tree in the south end of the Capitan Range.

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It was for like a couple of days. It was

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a nice spot that just say that's the thing with

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public land. I didn't see anybody. I think I saw

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one other guy, you know, the whole two or three

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days I was out there. But it's a cool Yes,

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there's so much good shit and so much nice stuff

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in New Mexico. If you got time to just roll

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around and you know you're you're not broke, you got

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like enough to just you know, you don't got to

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be rich. You know, you're just living in your car.

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But that was the thing when I was a lot

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of the time I spent learning botany, you know. Between

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I would say my first good mushroom trip in the

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desert twenty twelve to when I left California twenty twenty,

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twenty twenty one, I would just all the whenever I

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could get time off from work, I would just fucking

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head out for a week and go live in the

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Mojave or in Nevada or wherever, you know, northern Arizona,

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just driving around, mulling around and blm land. You know,

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get a truck, camp orshell, a nasty old filthy fouton

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mattress you could throw in the back, brush it off,

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and a cooler and a little camping stove like you

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get from the Chinese grocers, you know, you know, they

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got those little they got them little stoves. It's nice.

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They take the buttane so you can make coffee or

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a fucking you know, tea and cook occasionally and you

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just roll around and it's nice. So just looking at

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different stuff and just taking photographs and exploring and learning

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about the land that you live on. It was nice.

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I did that for years and it was very fulfilling. Shit.

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During COVID, me and my daughter's mom were doing that

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for like three months straight. It was really nice. But anyway, so,

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uh so, yeah, it should be good. And I think

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I'm just gonna dig around New Mexico for a week,

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maybe check on some plants, revisit some old spots. Uh

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I'll put my post up in a certain spot. I

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got some other work. I gotta do herbarium labels to

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create emails and shit the respect, you know, just general

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shit work, and hopefully get some drawing done as well.

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But yeah, it'll be nice. So but yeah, cloud Craft

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is in the Sacramentos, the Sacramento Mountains, and it's like

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with the range runs from like eight ten thousand feet

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at the higher elevations, and so that's where we're gonna be.

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And I'm so I'm stoked to be in a sky

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island again, much cooler temperatures, different casts of plants. Should

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be a lot of fungi up there. You know, I

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didn't know amanitas were, or rather circlecarpas, which is in

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the rose family rose Ace, also known as mountain mahogany.

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Mountain mahogany is the common name, but of course no

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relation to true mahogany, which is in the family Meliace,

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same family as that obnoxious China ball, China berry whatever

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it is, shit, that invasive tree that's all over Austin.

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It's got cool flowers. What is it, Melica Melia, that's

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the genus. But I love sewing those things down, really

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really horrible invasive in Central Texas. But anyway, that's the

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mahogany family, and they're native to Eurasia. I'm sure they're

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really cool where they're native. But here there, of course

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horticultural atrocity and the noxious invasive but mountain mahogany circle carpus. Ah,

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excuse me, you don't mind Circlecarpus is Michael Rizel, Ecto

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Michael Rizel, you know, not just arbuscular mind za, but

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Ecto micro hyzol with Amanitas and probably a number of

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other genera of Ecto micro hyzel mushroom as well. So

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it's not just pines and oaks. It's also eucalyptus and

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obviously Circocarpus and alders and a few others, and of

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course members of the blueberry family Era Casey and especially

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Kamara Staphless and our Bautists that are Ecto micro rhyzol. Well,

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with the arachoids, it's a little bit more complicated. The

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Ecto mico rhisea reportedly behave Endo Michael Risley with them.

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little sheath that goes around the root. They actually penetrate

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the root cortex. The fungal hyphae do. But anyway, it's

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but they do that with Ecto microhizel species. At least

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the are buttoids our Beautis and Camaro Stapfless. We were

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in Costa Rica, the higher elevations there are ten thousand,

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two hundred feet. Got the fucking Paramo we went to

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was in such good condition. It's such a cool habitat.

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You know, the sphagnum Magiclana come up there at the

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fluffy red sphagnum flushing all those red pigments as a

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result of the exposure to you know, harsh uv sunlight.

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like thirty three hundred meters, the plants up there, I

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just went out that fuck, I just hit a butterfly.

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God damn it. I hate it. I fucking hate it anyway,

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But but yeah, we saw what was it. Lex Sinum

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is a genus of ectomycorrhizo mushroom that kind of looks

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like a bullied It's got pores on the underside, and

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it associates with Camaro Staphalus r. Buttoides, which is a

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super common shrub to large tree in Costa Rica. At

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the higher elevations, at like nine thousand feet, we were

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at temperatures of like sixty degrees the whole time. It

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was really pleasant. It's so nice up there. So but

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that was a that was a really cool I think

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Lexynum montiicola only associates with with with with our buttoids,

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while arochoids to it was with Vaccinium consanguinium. There are

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so many Vaccinium species up there. I tried reaching out

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to this guy that studies them from New York Botanical

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Garden that studies the neotropical blueberries, that he didn't get

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back to me. I don't know if he's on vacation

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or you never know. You know, a lot of a

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lot of these, you know, people in a professional stature.

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on the podcast. They know what crime PAS is. They're

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not too vibed out by, you know, than others. Maybe

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they are members of the square community. Maybe it vibes

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them out. Maybe they don't know me, they want to

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lose the prestige. Maybe you know I said that offendom.

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I don't know, but I reached out, or maybe you

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just didn't get the fucking email. But I would love

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to have someone knowledgeable about neotropical blueberry, neotropical eraic Casey

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diversity come on the podcast and talking because it's such

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a huge group and so many of them are epiphytes,

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uh and and just fucking wild. There's so much diversity

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down there. It's and it. They're also cool, you know,

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from the woody ligno tuber thing that they do, forming

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that little storage mechanism, that little you know, swollen woody

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knob to to I mean, the epiphytic habit, especially to

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the hummingbird pollination syndromes, to the dispersal methods obviously a

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lot of bird dispersal there. It's just a it's a

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really cool group of plants. And then I'd like to

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get someone to talk about the Apacrits too, a Packridity,

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the apacrid subfamily, which of course you get in uh,

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you know, Australia, New Zealand. That's a fucking another insane group,

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you know, and they've got they've got the parallel of

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a nation. They look like mono cos the draco phylums.

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If you don't know about a Packrit's, you should go

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read up on them. E. P. A, C R. I. D.

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At Pacrid deity. They used to be their own family

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at Packard a see. But if they're it's very obvious

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they're blueberries when you look at the flowers, but you know,

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they look like fifty million years removed from the rest

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of the family, which is how a lot of shit

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in Australia and New Guinea and New Zealand and New Caledonia,

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et cetera. Looks it's such mind blowing flora down there.

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A friend of mine's going to New Guinea in November.

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I guess he's getting and you got invited to speak

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about bromeliads. He's a bremeliad guy and he's going. He's

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but he's gonna go to New Guinea too. New Guinea

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seems fucking nuts. I would love to go to New Guinea,

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but it's you know, it could be a real hot place,

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figuratively speaking, not just you know, they've got sixteen thousand

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foot tall mountains there. You have that much elevation at

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that much low latitude, you know it's gonna be hyper diverse.

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But I just dropped my little fucking macha container. I

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hate this fucking bride. You know that, I really do.

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It's just fucking mind numbing and it's bad for you too.

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I gotta go. I'm gonna go do kettlebell swings in

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the park when I get back in West Texas, go

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run the fucking track or something. Louie is a little fat.

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I gotta go. She gotta get some exercise too. I

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missed her so much. You know, Jack just turned sixteen

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last May. He's still kicking, doesn't show any sign of

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slowing down, despite being deaf and having to peel a lot,

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you know, and being maybe a little bit senile. But anyway, Yeah,

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but I'd love to get someone to talk about neotropical

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blueberries area Casey. So if you know anybody and you

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know they're a little loose, they like to, you know,

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talk about plants and let other people know about him

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point in my direction. But I tried to get the

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mustard guy, doctor al Shabaz too, really lovely man, very

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kind man, but he was he was not up for

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a podcast. I guess he just wasn't. He's having some

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health issues or something. I don't know, but he's still

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anytime I need help with brassa casey IDs, especially some

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of the rare ones like thelipodiopsis or any of those.

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You know, he's a response immediately. So it seems like

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a wonderful man regardless right now. Age Well, anyway, yeah,

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so I'm I'm we were we were. I'm always excited

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whenever I meet a new mushroom to learn a psychology. Uh.

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And then you know, try and see how that fits

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into the things that I spend most of my time

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studying and looking at with his plants, and so the

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Michael Riisell relationships are always he's always pretty exciting to

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learn about, like learning that Ornithostaphlos, which is you know,

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related to madrones and kamaro Staphalis. It's a blueberry, you know.

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It's Sarah Casey, our rb tite, the subfamily that's its

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own clade, was Mike riisall with I think four or

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five different species that we saw on in Baja California

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and the maritime chaparral right there. And another thing I

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want I should mention this before. This is totally unrelated

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to anything I was talking about before, but you know,

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me and my friend James Peace started a nursery. Well

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he's got a nursery going on. He got shit canned

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from the nursery he used to work at because they

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want to grow bougain v's and create myrtles and all

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the horticultural garbage that you know needs to be on

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life support on irrigation in Texas, and they were. They

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were actually throwing out native plants that he grew, like shit.

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I gave him like rare stuff. Fucking assholes, like they

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threw out a bunch of Prunus Texina, that delicious native apricot.

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was a really lovely woman. You know, other people took

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over that. There's just a job of them. They don't

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give a shit shit hand him through out a bunch

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of stuff. And now they got boogain V's it's just

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you know, a boring run of the mill nursery anyway.

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But he inherited this other greenhouse and so we're growing

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a bunch of stuff. But he's got he also inherited

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all this stuff in the greenhouse as well, which is

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a lot of tropicals. And you know, I joke. You know,

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all you need to do is find like a food

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court and a couple dozen different malls across the United States.

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You could probably unload all this stuff there. You know.

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It's I mean, there's some interesting stuff he's got, like

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variegative vanillas and hoyas, which are that succulent milkweed vine.

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Really cool genus, not native the New New World at all,

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but you know, still still interesting interesting house plants. I

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have a hooya that I've been unable to kill for

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the last twelve years. It was above my kitchen in Oakland.

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Now I got it outside in South Texas. I've given

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cuttings to a million different people, and but yeah, Hoya

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is a big genus. Anyway, He's got a bunch of

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stuff and thurium's aeroids all that stuff. But it's you know,

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this is like a very niche crowd that we want

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to buy this stuff, and so we've got to clear

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these tables off so we can grow more of the

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native stuff in there. So if you know anyone you know,

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get at me or or I would suppose contact him.

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His His instagram is Peace Plants p E A s

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E P l A n T s uh and just

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message him and see if you can come by. He's

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in Sageen, Texas. I'm sure if you want to buy

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a shit ton of stuff, he could drive a box

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truck or something up to you. But that's really I mean,

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I don't know, it's a lot of shit to get

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rid of. Man, he's got ulfias, those desert orchids, all this.

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I mean, some of it's kind of cool, but you know,

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it's a very niche It's like very like I mean,

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if there was like another conservatory in the Midwest that

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needed some stuff, that'd be a great spot to get

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it to. But anyway, yeah, it's a lot to take

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care of at the moment. But uh, other than that,

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we're growing a bunch of rare native plants. We got

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po Maria ostro texana, that cool weird legume that looks

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like an orchid, the pea flower that looks like an

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orchid flower, very glandular and sticky. From South Texas. Got

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a bunch of Senegalias you know, Guahio nurse plant for payote,

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a bunch of interesting stuff that not many people are growing.

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So there's a you know, we always need more native

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plant nurseries and wherever you live, no matter what part

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of the country, you should start growing shit too, just

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just for shits and giggles, you know. And uh, backyard

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growers especially are like the backbone. California's got a lot

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of I mean, it's still not enough, but they've got

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more native plant nurseries than most. It's where the native

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plant movement I feel like is strongest and where it's

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been going the most, you know, for the longest. But

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you know, Texas and southeast and east coast wherever there's

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still still a lot of need for more more native

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plant sources. But god, it just trives it. It tries

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me nuts, man, especially where I live. It's like it's

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it's such pure indoctrination to just want to cut everything

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down and mow it. I fucking don't understand. So I

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don't understand. Like you know, other places out west, maybe

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in the mountains, maybe wherever they they generally have an

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understanding that having plants on the landscape is good and

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they're nice. But like Texas is so good at disrespecting

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it's flora, you know, and just just getting horny for

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cutting shit down, clearing it. Like there's no even if

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you hate plants, and I say this all the time,

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forgive me if this is you know, if this is

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over overkill here, but like, even if you hate plants,

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the pragmatic fact that having plant cover on the landscape

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makes it twenty or thirty degrees cooler, Like, wouldn't that

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be enough that it mitigates flooding you're providing you know,

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it makes the soil more absorptive. It's like creating more

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pores in the sponge so that it can soak up

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more water for flooding. You know, lawn doesn't do any

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of that shit. Kyle in Native Habitat Project just did

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another clip where he takes a you know, what are

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those COVID thermometers they use at the airport, you know

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they're used to and he puts it on asphalt. It's

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one hundred and thirty degrees. Puts it on concrete, it's

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like one hundred and twenty degrees. Puts it on lawn.

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Lawn was like the same temperature, only marginally cooler than concrete.

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I assume as falls the hottest because it's darker. Concrete

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it's generally a lighter color, doesn't get as hot. But

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the lawn was almost as hot as the fucking concrete.

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It's just the heat island, you know, And of course

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it is. There's no you know, there's barely any leaf

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cover maybe an inch or two preventing the sun from

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heating up the ground. It's it's fucking nuts. I mean,

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the how unpragmatic mode turf grass is. Now, if you're

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playing bouchy ball or doing a picnic in the park,

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I get it. But if you're just you know, you're

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just some parts like like to do a movie night thing.

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You know, you have, like a free movie night. You

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roll out a fucking blanket and sit out there, eat

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a bucket of chicken and snort cocaine with your I'm

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just kidding around. I don't know why I picked fried

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chicken and cocaine. But any well, you know what I mean.

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You go sit out there and uh, you know, to

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get some dried mango and green tea, watch a fucking

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movie whatever they do movie nights in the park anywhere

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in Texas. It doesn't seem like a great Texas thing.

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It's god damn liverro We don't do that shit out her.

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We sit in our cars and slowly give ourselves metabolic

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diseases from not moving and eating greasy shit. But yeah,

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I mean it's you know, Lan's got a place you

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want to kick a soccer ball around or some shit,

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But it's so fucking hot. That's what's so funny to

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me too. Like again, another thing I say all the

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fucking time, people like, well, I got you know where

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our kid's supposed to play? What kid? If you got

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a loan that's one hundred and twenty degrees, you're sitting

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out there in the fucking sun. What kid, he's gonna

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like playing? I never like doing that. Go, yeah, I'm

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gonna go stand out in the middle of his field

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of moe turf grass where it's one hundred and twenty

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degrees and sweat my ass off. And no. Man, we

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used to like to go by the creeks and the

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bushes and the alleys and stuff to hide on her.

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That was the fun stuff. But you know, kids don't

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really go outside anymore these days anyways. Everyone is just

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staring at a phone all the time. I think the

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Internet shutting down for a day or two would be

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hilarious and good for good for all of us. It's it,

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really is. You's got to put that shit down, not

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fucking stare at it sometimes, you know, uh, figure out

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something to do, you know, look up shit on I Naturalist,

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read about random stuff on Wikipedia, think about the world

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around you, Think up questions to ask you know, at

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least you could use you know, just get off social media.

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Think of questions you want to ask the internet. You

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want to ask the oracle anyway. But they love clear

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and brush in Texas, they really do. They clear everything,

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cut it down and don't let it be messy. You know,

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don't let the plant covers messy. What a fucking twisted,

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twisted way to think about things. So anyway, I'm gonna be.

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I'm going to Minnesota in September. I'm getting paid to

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go talk to some college class. I can't believe to

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have me up there at college. They're gonna have me

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at some university talk about a bunch of stuff on

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a prairie's a prairie ecology. And so I'm going up

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there in somewhere like northwest of Minneapolis mid September to

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pay me. I gotta drive my ass up there. That

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should be a long drive. And then what else did

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you have? We got this Ecuador trip in November. I

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think October. I'm open. Maybe I'll just try to relax

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if I can do that. You know, do a bong rip.

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When's the last time you did a bong rip. I

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haven't done a bong rip in five years. Probably. I

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don't like the pot, but every once in a while

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it's nice. It's nice for trying to relax and calm

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yourself down. I just went to go check on sorel

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famnists Scoparius. It smells so good. It's in the amorphy tribe,

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and I guess they just split up the genus sorel damn,

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that's knots. There's a soorl famnists and sorodendron, And I

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guess it was polyphyletic. I guess when they looked at it,

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so I think it was written who wrote a column

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be in her Mexican bonders. There's a paper on it.

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It's open source, you get downloaded, but you know they're

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doing this whole dn They look at the DNA, they

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find out that it's you know, it's not as simple

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as morphology. The relationships are as simple as morphology would

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have you believe. But uh, you know, we're just outside

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of El Pasa right now, driving along beautiful I ten.

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I just saw the most the most lovely and just

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baking in the sun. I can only imagine how it

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smelled inside one liter bottle of urine that presumably had

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been you know, discarded by one of the many truckers

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on I ten, one of the bleakest freeways. It's like

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the Texas equivalent between Fort Worth and I'll pass. So

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I ten and what is it? I twenty are like

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the most bleak section of freeway after I five in

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central California. It's just, I mean, really, you just you

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want an Americana experience. You want a good exp you know,

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if you're from Europe or Australia or saying you really

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want you really want a rough idea, not rough, very

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very succinct, very articulate idea of what America is. Like.

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Go hang out on an I five corridor, like around

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the Bakersfield Fresno area, or I ten and I twenty

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anywhere west of Fort Worth in Dallas, which are both shitholes.

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No offense to anybody that has to live there. But yeah,

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that's it's really the best way to get an idea

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of what American you're I'm sitting there looking at that swollen,

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ready to burst piss bottle, and I just said to myself,

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I said, Wow, this is really the American experience right here.

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You know, this is like statue of liberty to my

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you know what it must have looked like the statue

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of liberty to my great grandparents when they were coming

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over here from Italy back in the twenties or fucking tens,

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whenever the hell it was. You know, you see that piss,

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You're like wow, I bet it smells wonderful, all that

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mountain dew and high fruit, those corn syrup flushed through

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some three hundred pound man's and testines or kidneys or

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whatever the for kidneys I mean, you know what I mean?

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Sorry anyway, but Sorol Faminists scoparius, which is such a

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fucking gorgeous native like humanist shrub, a relative of Dahlia

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d A l e a with the glands too. It's

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got the same glance. And it was flushing big big

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indigo flowers. When was it like a month or two

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of go when they come out here? I can't fucking

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remember I go, I go down pass so far too much.

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Maybe it was in May, maybe it's two months ago,

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but I was hoping to get seeds. There's no seeds.

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Paddy Manning grow it. Not many other people, but it

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should be more common. Imagine if you went to like,

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you know again, like a depressing strip mall or you

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know any of these like shopping you know what I mean,

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shopping thoroughfare. Uh, you know, an a'l passo or something.

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But instead of all this hideous home depot garden section ship,

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they had Soro Feminist School Paris and that be nice.

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God damn, maybe one day, but uh, you know, it's

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not gonna change everything, but it'll make the turns of

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life easier to swallow and maybe create some more life

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in that in the these very arid, hot regions. Anyway,

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it's ninety five degrees fahrenheit out, I'm blazing down. I ten. Oh,

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look at Warez looks lovely. El Paso. Really he's got

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a rough. They got a cool museum and like they're

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near to college. They got like a nice native plant

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garden with some rarities too. But I'm friends with one

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of the dudes that's that works there. It's the at

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the college and what is a uto passo? But anyway,

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you know, they got a nice day a plant card.

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But aside from that, and the museum is cool. But

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aside from there's not a lot going on in a

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Passo except that Italian restaurant I went to when they

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filmed that wired uh plant Wired Plant Talk interview that

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I did. When was it there? Was twenty twenty two?

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Got it fit? That was three years ago. So Isacoma

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plura flora? That was cool to see. Isacoma is a

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composite genus? Very waxy leaves, and a lot of them

462
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,680
are very tolerant of hot, dry conditions. We get Isacoma,

463
00:27:32,759 --> 00:27:39,160
Cornopofolio in South Texas Isacoma and z ci West. I

464
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,480
think there's a few in Mexico, you know. Exploring plant diversity,

465
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:49,079
the ast racy with the biogeographic with a biogeographical lens,

466
00:27:49,839 --> 00:27:54,839
where is this genus distributed comostly? These nice I found out?

467
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,440
I guess I should have known this, or I should

468
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,960
have figured But the family ast racy comprises like ten

469
00:28:01,799 --> 00:28:06,359
of the total population in existence of flowering plants, which

470
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,640
is nuts, So orchids must be ten percent too, So

471
00:28:10,759 --> 00:28:18,880
twenty percent of angiosperms are astraraci or orchids. Well that's

472
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:23,240
not correct, not by biomass, but by species. You know,

473
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:27,279
if you're counting the total species in existence, I should

474
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,039
have been more articulate there. Oh, what of that putting

475
00:28:30,079 --> 00:28:33,000
up here? It looks like a nice, bleak concrete data

476
00:28:33,079 --> 00:28:36,000
center or some sort of fucking warehouse. It looks like

477
00:28:36,039 --> 00:28:42,640
a goddamn external hard drive. How about that? Anyway, two

478
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:48,759
hours to go to beautiful Alamo Gordo, and then we're

479
00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:52,440
gonna be up in the mountains fittally fucking around at

480
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,400
eight thousand feet. I just talked to Alan. Him and

481
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,519
Mandy are on their way to it. They're driving out here,

482
00:28:57,559 --> 00:28:59,920
you know, they're going going their long haul in it.

483
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,839
Oh yeah, I forgot what I forgot what a shit

484
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920
old El Paso is. And I only mean that in

485
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,680
this sense. I mean, like any city in Texas is

486
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,680
a shittle. It's just built for cars. You can't fucking

487
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:16,319
walk anywhere, you know, It's it's dangerous. Anyone who's seen

488
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,279
on a sidewalk walking is presumed to be poor or

489
00:29:20,359 --> 00:29:24,359
homeless or otherwise just unable to afford a car. You know,

490
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:29,880
there's an old guy asking for spare change here on

491
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,359
the Median Strip. He's got a you know, there's two

492
00:29:32,359 --> 00:29:35,359
of them. They got matching shirts. They got vests and

493
00:29:35,519 --> 00:29:39,200
matching shirts that say God Loves sinners. The religious shit

494
00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:41,920
in this day really does get to be a lot.

495
00:29:42,039 --> 00:29:44,160
And of course I don't mind if people are religious,

496
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:48,000
but of course so many religious people, you know, don't

497
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:51,119
actually follow the parts about you know, the parts of

498
00:29:51,119 --> 00:29:55,519
the religion about being kind and taking care of the

499
00:29:55,599 --> 00:29:58,680
poor and shit like that. They're just really and they're

500
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,680
really horny for the culture worse stuff. It's all just

501
00:30:01,759 --> 00:30:04,519
in doctrination, but it gets to be a fucking lot

502
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:06,880
where I live. Yeah, I was in my neighborhood the

503
00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,559
other day. They went on a ten mile bike rad.

504
00:30:09,559 --> 00:30:11,480
I've been biking around, which is fucking nice. Gotta get

505
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,319
some cardio without pounding the knees, you know. And so

506
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,079
and I used to bike a lot. I would like

507
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,680
smoke weed, bike from Chicago to Milwaukee, smoke a dube

508
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,400
and then just bike for eight hours because weed makes

509
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,799
repetitive exercise easier. This is I must have been like

510
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,400
twenty two or something, but I was really in the

511
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,880
bike in a lot and uh, but it's terrifying to

512
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,279
do it in Texas because the drivers are horrible. All

513
00:30:34,279 --> 00:30:37,440
the trucks are oversized. And now especially since you know

514
00:30:37,559 --> 00:30:40,759
half half the idiots that comprise the majority of the

515
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:44,359
American populace, they're on their phone all the time. Got

516
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,279
Jack's mouth is powerful. I'm sorry, he's you know, he's

517
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,160
he's panting. He's doing his nervous panting in the back

518
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,559
and the fumes are coming out. But anyway, but I

519
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,480
was in my neighborhood and I live in you know,

520
00:30:55,519 --> 00:30:59,480
a poor Hispanic neighborhood, generally poor working classes Panic neighborhood.

521
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,119
And I saw some white girls driving around. You never

522
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,880
see white girls in my neighborhood. So I saw these

523
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:09,400
Caucasian women, these Caucasian young ladies, driving around in a

524
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,759
fucking I don't know, some sort of sporty small soccer momsuv.

525
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,480
And you know, I knew they weren't from it that

526
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,000
I knew they were. They were fucking Mormons or Jehovah's

527
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,599
witnesses or you know, one of the cults, all the

528
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:26,119
different you know, cults, the sects of Christianity come to

529
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,960
my neighborhood to prey on the poor people there, because

530
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,440
that's what they do. You know, you got to get

531
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,119
them in the door, you know, offer them salvation. If

532
00:31:34,119 --> 00:31:36,960
they're not that well educated, they're really easy to fall

533
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,440
for it, you know. And I think that just the

534
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,119
whole missionary thing's part of the Mormon experience that sat

535
00:31:42,279 --> 00:31:44,920
You know, I've met a lot of lovely Mormons, you know,

536
00:31:45,039 --> 00:31:47,920
and I've got a lot of gay friends that grew

537
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,799
up in Utah. They grew up Mormon, and they're all

538
00:31:50,839 --> 00:31:52,960
bubbly and always nice. But there's a you know, a

539
00:31:53,079 --> 00:31:56,960
high propensity of homosexuals in the Mormon could, but at

540
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:00,559
least they come out, which is you know, and I'm

541
00:32:00,799 --> 00:32:03,480
only saying that because I just noticed. That's that's the thing.

542
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,400
I don't know if it's the repression or what, but

543
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:08,440
I mean, they of course leave the church later on,

544
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:15,559
but uh, you know, bubbly blonde, very kind. Uh anyway, man,

545
00:32:15,599 --> 00:32:18,920
how many? My friend Vanessa, my friend Joe? Who else?

546
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,640
I haven't seen Joe in forever. He was a wonderful man.

547
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,920
He was making fun of me for one. We went

548
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,599
on a road trip together for a few days, and

549
00:32:25,599 --> 00:32:27,240
he was making fun of me for one to go

550
00:32:27,279 --> 00:32:30,799
to all these geologic sites in northern Youthah. He said,

551
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,799
he said that he felt like, you know, a kid

552
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:36,839
who's dead was making you know, dragging their asses to

553
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,440
rock and roll Hall of Fame or something. I think

554
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:43,440
it's the way he put it, which was actually pretty funny.

555
00:32:43,519 --> 00:32:45,720
Where the fuck did he go? Anyway? Yeah, but he's

556
00:32:45,799 --> 00:32:48,240
you know, he's gay, he's gay as hell. He was

557
00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:51,839
brought up Mormon. But but I met his family. They're

558
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,920
very nice people, and they didn't they you know, they

559
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:58,400
didn't They never disposed of him for being something that

560
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:02,000
their religion supposed to prohibits. I don't fucking I don't

561
00:33:02,039 --> 00:33:04,440
never got that part. But anyway, but you know, but

562
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,920
not knocking Mormons, but I'm just saying I knew what

563
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:12,960
they were doing there. You know, they're salespeople, so you know,

564
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,640
and that kind of it just gets annoying. It's it's

565
00:33:16,119 --> 00:33:19,599
I guess it's better than nothing kind of is it.

566
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,599
I don't know, you know, if you got to offer

567
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,759
people hopes somehow, but but it's still depressing and it's

568
00:33:27,039 --> 00:33:30,160
predatory and anyway, so I figured I would just go

569
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,119
off to them and ask them some questions. I thought

570
00:33:33,119 --> 00:33:36,480
this would be funny. They approached me. I had some

571
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:40,279
guys on bikes approached me a month or two ago,

572
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,480
and I said, fuck no. They said, can we have

573
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:44,920
a word with you for a minute. I said fuck no,

574
00:33:45,039 --> 00:33:48,640
and they said wow, And I said, all right. You know,

575
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,440
I just said said, that's that's absolutely right, Yes, Wow

576
00:33:51,599 --> 00:33:53,599
is right. Fuck no, stay away from me. But then

577
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,039
this time, you know, these these were like nice young ladies.

578
00:33:56,079 --> 00:33:57,720
I couldn't be rude to them. So I said, I'm

579
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:03,599
gonna go back and uh and and try to indoctrinate them.

580
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,160
And that's what I did. So I just you know,

581
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,639
started talking to them about the geologic time scale, uh,

582
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:14,440
the evolution of life, great oxygenation event, evolution of land plants.

583
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,920
How that that fills the void of of an origin story.

584
00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:22,199
Understanding evolution and natural selection fills the void of an

585
00:34:22,199 --> 00:34:25,679
origin story that we all seem to need as people.

586
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:28,119
And it makes a lot more sense, and it's a

587
00:34:28,159 --> 00:34:32,280
lot more quantifiable and measurable than some of the stories

588
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,679
that religion tells us, which of course are I believe

589
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,079
are just supposed to be metaphors anyways, not taken literally.

590
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:43,800
But but it was, you know, it was fun to do.

591
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:46,920
And also you know, I knew it wasn't gonna work

592
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:48,719
on them, of course, but it would get them to

593
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,599
it would drive them away. And so within two minutes

594
00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:56,800
they were they were checking out of the conversation. I'm

595
00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,079
gonna do that more. It's similar to what what I

596
00:34:59,199 --> 00:35:02,000
do with cops too, Like if they stop me, I

597
00:35:02,199 --> 00:35:04,880
just keep talking, Just start keep talking about plants. I

598
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,159
learned that from Allen. You would talk about mushrooms. Just

599
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:11,199
start telling them about different plants and blah blah blah

600
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:17,119
and native plants, how things evolve, biogeography, families and genus,

601
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,840
you know, families and genera that are native to certain

602
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,639
regions of the world, and you know, ecological strategies based

603
00:35:26,679 --> 00:35:30,639
on whatever set of conditions a plant may have evolved. Yeah,

604
00:35:30,679 --> 00:35:33,719
that kind of thing, and I think it's uh, it

605
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,840
does drive them away, but that's kind of what you want.

606
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,000
And then you know, if it doesn't drive them away,

607
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,239
then they're genuinely interested, then maybe you've you know, maybe

608
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,559
you've just indoctrinated someone else into the cult of the

609
00:35:45,599 --> 00:35:49,840
living world. The thing that always drives me nuts about

610
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,199
the religious fault though, is that, you know, I don't

611
00:35:53,199 --> 00:35:55,800
know why some of them takes so much issue with evolution.

612
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Still that just seems fucking that just seems lazy minded,

613
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,280
because your religion doesn't tell you that you can't believe

614
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,480
in natural selection and evolution and things that are solidly

615
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:10,840
quantifiable things that we've seen in real time, you know.

616
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,679
And it's like if you were back in when was

617
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,519
Galileo sixteen hundreds, when was he doing his thing looking

618
00:36:15,559 --> 00:36:18,440
at through his tubes, that'd be like if you were

619
00:36:19,519 --> 00:36:22,719
if you thought that, like believing in the existence of

620
00:36:23,079 --> 00:36:26,079
the solar system and that Earth wasn't at the center

621
00:36:26,119 --> 00:36:30,400
of it. If you thought that that was was was heresy.

622
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,480
Holy Dick, I can't wait to be in New Mexico.

623
00:36:34,159 --> 00:36:36,239
We're almost there. We're near to we're near to border.

624
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:41,000
Jack finally calmed down. No maybe not no, No, he's

625
00:36:41,039 --> 00:36:44,559
still he's still panting, nervous. It's like a nervous panting.

626
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,880
You know what. He was a puppy sixteen years ago

627
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,599
when I first got him. He used to just puke

628
00:36:49,679 --> 00:36:51,760
all over the back seat of my little Honda Civic.

629
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,480
I had a ready Honda Civic and he was you know,

630
00:36:57,519 --> 00:36:59,960
he would he would barf all the time. So I

631
00:37:00,119 --> 00:37:02,920
just would lay sheets down and then when we'd go places,

632
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:05,280
he just yeah, he got carsick. He didn't like driving

633
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:09,039
in the car. There's a lot of hideous development going

634
00:37:09,079 --> 00:37:11,840
on in El Paso, just like just like most of

635
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,159
Texas doesn't seem very well thought out. New town homes

636
00:37:16,199 --> 00:37:21,000
in a barren in a barren, rocky wasteland on the

637
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:24,719
outskirts of al Paso. Oh, what is this? This is

638
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:29,519
Baker as Sarahthroides forgot, that's dominant here. You know, al

639
00:37:29,559 --> 00:37:32,679
Paso's got some nice stuff. We're at elevation four thousand feet,

640
00:37:33,639 --> 00:37:35,719
so it's hot as balls, but the air is dry

641
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,639
and it cools off. It's still not as hot as

642
00:37:37,639 --> 00:37:43,280
where I live, as in South Texas, but it's gonna

643
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,960
be chilly up at the nine thousand foot elevation and

644
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:51,039
his Sacramentos. But yet next time, some you know, some

645
00:37:51,199 --> 00:37:54,400
religious nutter. And again, not all religious people are nutters.

646
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:58,360
Some are very kind and and wonderful, you know, especially

647
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,239
if they're you know, gay Mormons. But but next time

648
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:08,599
some religious mat or whether it's you know, anybody who's orthodox,

649
00:38:08,639 --> 00:38:10,199
I feel like, next time they come at you with

650
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,519
some anti evolution shit and they don't understand, you know,

651
00:38:14,199 --> 00:38:17,400
they say it's uh. Which again this is really I

652
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,159
feel like, only if you're in the southeast or in

653
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,480
Texas are you gonna encounter this level of shit for

654
00:38:23,559 --> 00:38:27,159
brinth But should you, should it happen, just ask them,

655
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,880
you know, if they can explain what haployd and diployd

656
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,920
mean and how it's you know, so much of the

657
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:38,119
things that back up evolution or the basis for modern medicine,

658
00:38:38,199 --> 00:38:42,280
especially you know, cancer research, that it's elementary genetics, things

659
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:46,320
like that, and UH and see what happens. That's the

660
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,440
thing about you know, with humanity, it's it's a small

661
00:38:49,519 --> 00:38:52,880
minority of people that you know, are smart enough to

662
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:55,320
make room for technological advancement. Then the rest of the

663
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,480
population benefits without really understanding how it works. This is

664
00:38:59,519 --> 00:39:03,519
something you know, and if they understood how it works,

665
00:39:03,559 --> 00:39:09,480
it would better all of society. This is something Carl

666
00:39:09,559 --> 00:39:13,760
Sagan brought up all the time, but it just it

667
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,400
escapes people. And I think we're only getting dumber, especially

668
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,599
now that we have AI and and smartphones all the time.

669
00:39:20,639 --> 00:39:22,760
I mean, these things do the thinking for us without

670
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:28,440
without us having to really comprehend any of the knowledge

671
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,880
that we can ask the oracle that is the internet.

672
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,559
You know, people you could just dictation, especially holy shit,

673
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:38,480
what's going on with kids? And AI too. You don't actually,

674
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,760
you don't actually have to think about problems anymore. You

675
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,079
just have to be smart enough to look shit up

676
00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:46,840
online and then remember it, memorize it for a test,

677
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:48,960
and then you get the degree. And then you know,

678
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,199
I don't know how we where are we headed? Oh

679
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:57,840
it's gonna be gnarly, just increasingly dumber populace, But maybe not.

680
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,519
I don't know who knows. Oh nice, thunder start off

681
00:40:00,559 --> 00:40:04,199
in a distance. Oh that's nice. We're driving by Fort

682
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,159
Bliss right now. You know, it's all dunes out here.

683
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:11,840
It's this red sandy. It's a very large patch from

684
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:16,199
here to fucking Carlsbad southeast to the oil fields of

685
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:21,000
Midland and the I mean, you want to talk truck

686
00:40:21,039 --> 00:40:25,159
or piss bottles and bleakness. That's spoy Midland Odessa area anyway.

687
00:40:25,639 --> 00:40:29,559
But it's all this red sand. And then there's just

688
00:40:29,679 --> 00:40:32,159
and there's you know, little patches of miskuit. The misky's

689
00:40:32,159 --> 00:40:34,679
here top out of two or three feet tall instead

690
00:40:34,679 --> 00:40:38,280
of thirty feet tall. But there's just this giant wall

691
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:42,480
of dust and rain. And to my east it's fucking

692
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,039
it's massive. I could barely see the mountains in the distance.

693
00:40:46,159 --> 00:40:49,320
I'm so excited to be in New Mexico. How nice

694
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,559
doesn't feel anywhere near as bleak as Texas or off limits.

695
00:40:54,199 --> 00:40:56,400
So we're up here now you could probably tell there's

696
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,159
no road noise left. But we're up here. And now

697
00:40:58,199 --> 00:41:01,119
we're like eighty five hundred feet more storm clouds in

698
00:41:01,159 --> 00:41:05,159
the distance. Man, These these clouds, these masses of water

699
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:09,639
vapor rising into the sky. Oh they're so lovely to see.

700
00:41:10,199 --> 00:41:13,400
But yeah, we're eighty five hundred feet doug Fur Forest,

701
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:21,559
Gamble Oak Forest just outside of Alamogordo, beautiful Alamogordo, New Mexico.

702
00:41:22,639 --> 00:41:24,760
And I already found a bunch of cool stuff. Found

703
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,199
a gymnapolis ludiefolius someone had found, which has silosin in it,

704
00:41:31,199 --> 00:41:38,000
which is what psilocybin polymerizes into. But it's got trace amounts,

705
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,079
so it's technically an illegal mushroom. But there were only

706
00:41:40,159 --> 00:41:42,960
trace amounts that. There's Allen fucking around on the I

707
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:47,400
should go go get him. But but yeah, Ryby's where

708
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,559
we're at. Now, there's Ryby's. There's doug Fur. A lot

709
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,920
of the doug Furs are dropping needles, which is concerning.

710
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,679
There's like not just needles, but entire branches like it

711
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,800
looks like it might be insect I guess it could

712
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,280
be hailed too, but it's really kind of extensive. But

713
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,599
the trees look healthy. Otherwise they're not. There's no orange

714
00:42:04,599 --> 00:42:06,559
and needles at the top. It looks maybe, yeah, maybe

715
00:42:06,559 --> 00:42:11,440
it was a insects removing it. What else we saw

716
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:16,400
we saw? Uh no, no micro rhyzl stuff. Yeah, oh no,

717
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:20,920
we saw an iosby, which is micro rhyzol, but uh,

718
00:42:21,199 --> 00:42:23,280
nothing else. Here's here's an We're gonna go see how

719
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,400
to own else about the tricholo my own.

720
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: This is a Tricholoma aurantium. Really cool tricholoma. Look at

721
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,639
that snake skin pattern on the stem.

722
00:42:33,039 --> 00:42:35,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, what the ship? That's crazy. It looks like fading paint,

723
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:38,039
like dripping fading paint almost.

724
00:42:38,199 --> 00:42:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, And if you taste it, you'll be really

725
00:42:40,639 --> 00:42:42,599
sad that you did, because it's very better.

726
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,960
Speaker 1: Okay, And this is this is probably not edible, but no,

727
00:42:46,039 --> 00:42:49,280
there's no reason to try because it tastes like hell anyway, exactly. Yeah,

728
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,840
and this is michael rhizol. We got what how big

729
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,920
is that cap? That's probably five inches across and the

730
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,239
little ones maybe two inches?

731
00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:57,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, pretty big, stocky trichyloma.

732
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,159
Speaker 1: And so this is there's staying with the doug Verson

733
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:06,000
Quircus gambelia here, and there's and then abs AB's as well.

734
00:43:06,079 --> 00:43:08,880
Aby's kind of color. Yeah, these are big. How do

735
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:13,079
these smell? They stink or what the oh? Yeah they do?

736
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:18,639
Oh wow? Yeah that color so tricholoma orantium you said,

737
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:25,840
are they yellow color? Orange orangish yellow, and then what's

738
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:28,599
that greening? It's just rotten or what?

739
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:31,599
Speaker 2: No, they do that they have green color sometimes.

740
00:43:32,639 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 1: And kind of like this revolute margin a little bit

741
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,880
fold it over. Do they mature? Does that end when

742
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:44,559
they mature? Oh? This guy's still in the ground. Huh uh?

743
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,239
Always wonder how extensive the myceelium is underground?

744
00:43:50,199 --> 00:43:51,199
Speaker 2: Have you tasted it yet?

745
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 3: No?

746
00:43:51,719 --> 00:44:01,079
Speaker 1: I got it like putting it in my mouth. Oh yeah,

747
00:44:01,119 --> 00:44:03,280
look at that. That's crazy. It looks like what paint

748
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,760
does on a wall if there's a fire indoors or something.

749
00:44:06,199 --> 00:44:10,320
That's kind of what it looks like. So are these

750
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,360
these are dropping spores right now? Probably? Huh oh yeah,

751
00:44:13,679 --> 00:44:16,679
tell have nice white prints. If I were to take

752
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,599
a hand lens up to them, what it could would

753
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,079
I be able to see them? Or is it a

754
00:44:21,079 --> 00:44:21,400
little bit?

755
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 2: We stacked one hundred spores and they'd be one millimeter,

756
00:44:25,079 --> 00:44:26,760
so they're a little too small for HandLens.

757
00:44:28,599 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 1: And it's a little yellow one. Okay, tell tell me

758
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,920
about this one. This is this is Hygrophers.

759
00:44:33,159 --> 00:44:39,119
Speaker 2: Crysodon, a little yellow ones macarizol, And like everything in Higraphrius,

760
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,559
it's edible. Usually they're a little bigger than that.

761
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Okay, we got a revision. What do you call this? Yeah,

762
00:44:46,119 --> 00:44:49,199
look coming right off the stick. Trauma, Watch out for

763
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,960
the dog shit zipto. What is it?

764
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,159
Speaker 2: Cypto trauma?

765
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:56,159
Speaker 1: Cipto trauma. Yeah, look at it? How would you? It's

766
00:44:56,159 --> 00:44:59,800
got like a convex cap. Yeah, really pretty. But then

767
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,360
there's stipe textures. Fucking the texture. You pay a lot

768
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,119
of attention to texture when you're looking at mushrooms. Huh. Yeah,

769
00:45:06,559 --> 00:45:09,280
it's not just colors and shapes, but texture of stipe,

770
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,199
texture of cap. What was what was the thing with

771
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,239
the really nice what was it that I showed you?

772
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,960
It was like a pink and had a crazy texture

773
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:23,280
to the cap. Castania what was it? Folliota castannia no lepiota.

774
00:45:23,639 --> 00:45:28,840
Oh yeah, but that's just a separate lepiota is. Yeah,

775
00:45:30,519 --> 00:45:33,400
it was nice. So, you know, I just put the

776
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,039
phone down for a minute. We just found like Goosta

777
00:45:37,119 --> 00:45:40,559
comporter eye, which is an apa ced carrot family. It's

778
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:44,079
also known as Osha, which you know, back when I

779
00:45:44,199 --> 00:45:47,039
used to know people that were into herbalism, not so

780
00:45:47,159 --> 00:45:49,559
much anymore. It's a little hippie dippy for me. I

781
00:45:49,639 --> 00:45:52,519
mean whatever. It's fine, whatever you're into. But you know,

782
00:45:54,360 --> 00:45:57,039
it's not always the most practical. I think there's like

783
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,880
a little bit of cosplaying alchemists in there sometimes just

784
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,880
saying sometimes right, no shade to anybody. But it's a

785
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:07,559
cool plant, and it's somewhat rare, kind of looks kind

786
00:46:07,559 --> 00:46:09,760
of like a Queen Anne's lace look to it, but

787
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:13,760
there's no hairs on it. And reportedly it's really hard

788
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,639
to grow. You know, we're up here at eighty five

789
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:17,559
hundred feet is you could probably tell because I'm a

790
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:21,480
little fucking winded too. But it gets up like, you know,

791
00:46:21,639 --> 00:46:24,719
three feet tall. It was growing in the shade of

792
00:46:25,679 --> 00:46:29,480
some gambles oaks which were maybe fifteen feet tall. It

793
00:46:29,599 --> 00:46:33,639
was grown with acer Grande and tatum this little maple

794
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:38,159
up here. But I haven't seen it. I've only seen

795
00:46:38,159 --> 00:46:41,320
it in a few places in the West. I've seen

796
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,039
there's another, like there's a couple like eustacumb species in California,

797
00:46:45,079 --> 00:46:48,960
remember like Gustacombe gray was one I would encounter. But

798
00:46:49,039 --> 00:46:50,800
you know, you go to these high elevations in the

799
00:46:50,920 --> 00:46:53,920
montane West and you find all these cool carrots simopterus

800
00:46:55,360 --> 00:47:01,159
like goose to coumbhit. There's a bunch more drawn a blank,

801
00:47:01,199 --> 00:47:03,239
but anyway, I hadn't seen it in a while. Like

802
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,639
gets poached a lot too, because it's an herbal remedy.

803
00:47:06,199 --> 00:47:10,159
So you know, if you've convinced yourself that you are

804
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,800
sick or otherwise need some sort of medicine, you get

805
00:47:12,840 --> 00:47:14,920
the play alchemists make a potion out of it. The

806
00:47:15,039 --> 00:47:17,639
roots smell really good, but of course when you take

807
00:47:17,679 --> 00:47:22,400
the roots, you kill the plant. And has anyone ever

808
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:27,199
successfully grown Oh shit, I don't think so. Anyway. Oh,

809
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:30,480
it's a little it's getting a little hot, just a

810
00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:33,400
little bumy. But there's a thunderstorm on the horizon. So

811
00:47:33,519 --> 00:47:34,960
but that was great to see. It was cool to

812
00:47:35,039 --> 00:47:37,480
see like goose to come. And we saw some more

813
00:47:38,159 --> 00:47:42,880
tricolomas as well. Always like noting the micro rhizal affiliates.

814
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,159
And I just when I was laying down taking a

815
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:51,440
picture of what was it a I figured some sort

816
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,880
of shelf mushroom. I got up and noticed all these

817
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,519
things crawling on me, which I was, you know, I shit,

818
00:47:57,639 --> 00:48:00,760
damn near gasped in horror. I thought it was seed ticks,

819
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:04,079
but it turned out, damon tye, I sent them a photo.

820
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,719
He thinks it's just in stars of batbed bugs. So

821
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:11,480
still a bloodsucking parasite. But you know, at least it's

822
00:48:11,519 --> 00:48:15,599
not a tick. So get some fucking ivermectin. You know,

823
00:48:15,639 --> 00:48:18,239
you gotta take the IV. Gotta have some ivermectin on

824
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:21,920
hand for dealing with parasites. You know, Oh they got

825
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,159
a little they got a little sign, they got a

826
00:48:24,199 --> 00:48:27,920
little label. But you know, you get to take some ivermectin.

827
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,320
Then you get to joke about taking fucking ivermectin too,

828
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:36,800
which is which is funny. Albendasoul and ivermectin. Always whenever

829
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,679
you leave the country, go pick up two of those

830
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:41,679
two sets. Look up the adequate dosers. Pick up two

831
00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:44,639
sets and just have them on hand. You know they're

832
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,039
they're de wormers and for parasites, and the ivermectin is

833
00:48:48,079 --> 00:48:51,719
good for the ticks and the chiggers as well. Ah,

834
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:53,800
I'm back in a hotel now, and you know, Jack,

835
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:57,079
he pete on a floor right by the door. You know,

836
00:48:57,199 --> 00:49:00,320
he's he's sixteen years old, and he's a floor piss

837
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,079
her in his old age, which if that's the only

838
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,880
you know, if that and aimlessly wandering around and having

839
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,599
the issue with silver alert every once in a while,

840
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,039
if those are the only cons to his you know,

841
00:49:13,159 --> 00:49:16,400
him being old as hell, it's not that bad. But

842
00:49:16,599 --> 00:49:18,320
uh yeah, I just you know, it's okay. You just

843
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,880
clean it up, Just get the kids, get the hotel

844
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:23,119
towels and throw them on the floor and then put

845
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:24,840
them in the bath. That you just you just want

846
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,559
to hide the piss from the cleaning lady. Otherwise she's

847
00:49:27,639 --> 00:49:30,800
got to report it and then you get charged, as

848
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,119
I learned when you know, my daughter pissed the bed

849
00:49:33,199 --> 00:49:36,119
we were sleeping in at the hotel. We got forced

850
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:39,920
to stay up by United Airlines after they canceled oura

851
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:42,840
our flight out of Houston, so we got stuck in

852
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:44,960
a in a what was it? What was was a

853
00:49:45,079 --> 00:49:47,320
Marriott They put us in, like the Marriott, one of

854
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,480
those rich hotels that doesn't give the free breakfast. None

855
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:52,280
of the rich hotels give the free breakfast. So that

856
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,159
means you got to just steal more towels to make

857
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,559
up for it. But if you ever have a chance

858
00:49:56,679 --> 00:50:00,159
to go out and vandalize the Marriotte Hotel u uh

859
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,800
near George Bush International Airport in Houston, please do it.

860
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,199
I would recommend some sort of well what I would do,

861
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,079
And I'm not telling you to do this. I'm just

862
00:50:08,159 --> 00:50:11,880
saying because they charged us. You know, she was my

863
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:14,000
daughter was on cancer manage at the time. She peed

864
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:15,920
the bed. I didn't. I made the mistake of not

865
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:17,599
and it was only a little bit of piss. She

866
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:19,400
had a diaper around, but she still a little bit

867
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,119
of piss, and so I just i'd made the mistake

868
00:50:22,159 --> 00:50:24,280
of not cleaning it up that in there, and they

869
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:29,039
charged us five hundred bucks. So it was fucking brutal.

870
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:30,960
But anyway, this is what you would do, This is

871
00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,800
what I would do. You get you get some etch

872
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:36,679
bath from the And again I'm not encouraging anyone to

873
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:41,079
vandalize anything unless you really got a hankering for it,

874
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:43,199
which this is a really shit bag hotel too, which

875
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,360
run by terrible people. You know, you get some of

876
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,159
that etch bath, you mix it up, throw it on

877
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:51,119
their windows, right, you can cause a few hundred, if

878
00:50:51,199 --> 00:50:53,440
not thousands of dollars worth of damage. Now this is

879
00:50:53,519 --> 00:50:55,639
not again, I'm not a I'm not telling you to

880
00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,519
do this. I'm just saying, if this were a parallel

881
00:50:58,639 --> 00:51:01,239
dimension and you wanted to do it, that would be.

882
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:03,280
That would be a way to do it, you know,

883
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:05,519
to just really quick vantage you can just walk by

884
00:51:05,559 --> 00:51:10,679
and just just you know, just splatter it anyway getting distracted.

885
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,119
So I remectin. We always telling you to take ivermectin

886
00:51:13,199 --> 00:51:14,960
for the ticks and chiggers. You can do that if

887
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,280
you've got a bad infestation of like seed ticks, I

888
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:22,719
would recommend, But otherwise, you know, you don't do it

889
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,599
as just the preventative. But I remect it's not that,

890
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,920
you know, iromectans not that toxic. And it's actually kind

891
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,679
of sad. It saddens me that it got such a

892
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,880
bad rap because all those morons were using it during COVID,

893
00:51:34,519 --> 00:51:36,880
because it's actually a pretty wonderful drug. And this story

894
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:39,920
of how it was discovered is pretty amazing. Some guy

895
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:45,960
in Japan was doing soil samples scanning for microbes. Uh,

896
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,400
and you know, the microbial diversity in soil, especially among bacteria,

897
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:56,320
is impossibly diverse and just massive. I mean, there are

898
00:51:56,360 --> 00:52:01,000
so many species and he happened to find this one species.

899
00:52:01,239 --> 00:52:03,519
What was it it was? I think it was streptomyces.

900
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:08,559
Avermectin is the precursor to ivermectin. But you know it

901
00:52:08,639 --> 00:52:12,519
basically gave the blueprints to scientists for this compound and

902
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:16,719
they can then synthesize ivermectin. But uh, avermectin was a

903
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:20,599
compound produced by this bacteria probably is protection against nematodes.

904
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:24,599
And so he found this one specific species out of

905
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,519
after scanning thousands, he found it from like a golf

906
00:52:28,599 --> 00:52:32,599
course in Japan. Fucking wild. He found this one species

907
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:35,840
and then he they were able to culture it successfully

908
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,880
and in the lab it did well, and so it

909
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,320
produced avermectin and they that's how that was the discovery

910
00:52:43,559 --> 00:52:46,840
of this. But this was a game changing compound because

911
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:51,679
it could cure all these weird, fucked up you know,

912
00:52:52,119 --> 00:52:54,639
diseases that you get in the tropics that are caused

913
00:52:54,719 --> 00:53:03,119
by protis and amibas and different invertebrates. So so so

914
00:53:03,199 --> 00:53:05,559
it was a wonderful I mean it was. It was

915
00:53:05,679 --> 00:53:09,880
like penicillin. It was as important it did for protus

916
00:53:10,599 --> 00:53:15,039
what penicillin did for bacteria. Excuse me, not not Protozola

917
00:53:15,079 --> 00:53:18,800
parasitic worms. I'm confusing the two, you know, I I'm

918
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:25,159
messing up the taxonomy of different lineages of various eukaryotes.

919
00:53:27,199 --> 00:53:30,639
But yeah, nematodes. Nematodes and worms were the main and

920
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,960
and insects and invertebrates are arthropods. So but this is

921
00:53:35,039 --> 00:53:37,599
you know, it's a it's a it's a groundbreaking medicine.

922
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:43,159
But what are the different phyla that nematodes in flatworms? Okay,

923
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:49,400
philum nematoda that clade, and uh philum Plata hell menthes,

924
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:56,119
plati hell minthis the flatworms and thorny headed worms philum acanthocephala.

925
00:53:56,239 --> 00:54:00,639
Jesus Christ who studies these things. Oh, and subgrew too

926
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:05,360
of Plata hawmant These the tapeworms class Cistoda, and there's

927
00:54:05,639 --> 00:54:11,159
many different u Jesus Christ. Liver flukes, blood flukes, pork tapeworm,

928
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:18,960
heightatid disease. Uh what else, intestinal roundworm? Oh yeah, river blindness,

929
00:54:19,039 --> 00:54:23,599
that was a big one in Senegal lymphatic philariasis. These

930
00:54:23,639 --> 00:54:28,719
are all diseases caused by different worms. So these you

931
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,400
know this, I really need to read up on some

932
00:54:30,519 --> 00:54:33,599
of his taxonomy because I am not I'm pretty clueless

933
00:54:33,599 --> 00:54:35,320
when it comes to some of this stuff. And you know,

934
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:37,920
being that they caused so many different human diseases, it

935
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:41,000
would be good to be aware of them. But again,

936
00:54:41,039 --> 00:54:44,880
these are not protozoa. These are not it's a whole

937
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,519
different I think protozoa is. It's I mean, listen to

938
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:49,840
the you know, if you're interested in any of this,

939
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:52,960
listen to the podcast I did with my friend Julia.

940
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:57,360
It was what did Julia doctor Julia van End What

941
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,000
was the name of that. It was like a year ago,

942
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,920
but it was a really fascinating podcast. She's a microbiologist.

943
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,559
But anyway, so don't knock. I've remeact it. And it's

944
00:55:09,559 --> 00:55:11,800
good to have some on hand, especially if you're visiting

945
00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:15,920
the tropics. Anyway, we had a really nice day yesterday.

946
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,320
We did a little We did that mushroom hunt which

947
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:21,320
you just listened to part of it, and there was

948
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,079
osha nearby, which was cool to see that again high

949
00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:30,920
elevation medicinal apac. And then after that there was a

950
00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:33,519
plant I wanted to see called paridally, which got split

951
00:55:33,639 --> 00:55:39,280
up into the genus paridally Lafamia Laphamia l A. P

952
00:55:39,679 --> 00:55:41,360
h A M I A. You know what. I read

953
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:43,960
the paper that did this that split these up. A

954
00:55:44,039 --> 00:55:47,320
while ago. My friend Isaac was studying this and I

955
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,880
was actually traveling around with him in twenty nineteen through

956
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,920
Sonora and various sky islands in the American Southwest when

957
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:57,000
he was out there sampling and collecting and sampling different

958
00:55:57,159 --> 00:56:00,679
paridley species. But it's a really cool I wanted to

959
00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:05,000
see U. Paridalis Storophila, which is the New Mexico rock daisy.

960
00:56:05,039 --> 00:56:08,440
And this is a really cool group of plants because

961
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:11,639
they've had an adaptive radiation throughout the American Southwest, you know,

962
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,559
basically speciating on sky islands, so they would get you know,

963
00:56:15,639 --> 00:56:20,840
the idea of what this is called this typical You know,

964
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,239
you've got a larger population that then gets split up

965
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,679
into different groups and isolated, much like happened with the

966
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,880
California cypresses. The genus has sparaciprus, so you know, it's

967
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:34,280
it's a classic case of just good old allopatric a speciation.

968
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,519
But you know, if you can think of it, the

969
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:39,320
way I always thought of it, like with the cypresses,

970
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:43,360
was imagine you have in this I guess this works

971
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,599
for the rock daisies too, but you got imagine there's

972
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,400
like a big valley and a river runs through it,

973
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,360
and then some ship for brain humans roll roll up.

974
00:56:52,519 --> 00:56:55,320
You know, after millions of years of this valley, this

975
00:56:55,559 --> 00:56:58,840
this plant one splant plant species growing in this big

976
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:03,320
broad valley that's bordered on all sides by mountains. And

977
00:57:03,440 --> 00:57:07,239
they decide they're gonna damn the river and basically flood

978
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:10,039
the valley. But in this valley there's these little hills

979
00:57:10,639 --> 00:57:12,599
and the tops of the hills would be above the

980
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,599
water level of the reservoir that then fills the valley.

981
00:57:15,639 --> 00:57:18,960
Once that valley, that dam is put up. And so

982
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:25,079
this plant species that grows all throughout this valley, but

983
00:57:25,199 --> 00:57:28,320
it also grows on tops of these hills, and they're

984
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,320
all exchanging genes. Well, this doesn't work so well. Imagine

985
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:34,039
the hills are farther, much farther apart, and when they

986
00:57:34,119 --> 00:57:38,039
can't exchange polland the plants can't exchange pollen when they're

987
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:41,480
on these hills. Anyway, to point this, the valley gets flooded,

988
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:46,480
the population in the lowlands gets in the lower areas

989
00:57:46,519 --> 00:57:50,599
gets wiped out by the inundation, and then now you've

990
00:57:50,679 --> 00:57:55,400
just got these isolated hills that can no longer. You know,

991
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,519
the gene flow is restricted. There's no pollen flow between

992
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:03,840
between these plants anymore. The pollen vector, whether it's insect

993
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,920
or wind, can't go between the hills. And so now

994
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:10,840
you've got these basically islands in this reservoir, each with

995
00:58:11,039 --> 00:58:16,039
its own, its own population of what started as a

996
00:58:16,119 --> 00:58:19,679
single species. And then as time goes on, since you

997
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:22,599
know these plants, these populations are restricted from each other,

998
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:28,360
they're no longer sharing genes. They start the speciating according

999
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:33,079
to the different climates and environments on each island. Now

1000
00:58:33,239 --> 00:58:35,320
remember this is an analogy, so it's got to be.

1001
00:58:36,159 --> 00:58:38,079
It doesn't it doesn't work so well. But that's basically

1002
00:58:38,079 --> 00:58:42,199
what happened with the Sky Islands in the Southwest is

1003
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:47,320
the climate changed and you had, you know, whatever conditions

1004
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,880
existed five hundred thousand, one million years ago that were

1005
00:58:51,119 --> 00:58:55,280
somewhat uniform in the lower elevations, probably much more music

1006
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:59,519
and more more pleasant for plant life, easier for plants

1007
00:58:59,559 --> 00:59:02,519
to grow in that it starts drying and the lowlands

1008
00:59:02,599 --> 00:59:07,440
dry up become deserts. The plants, of course are able

1009
00:59:07,519 --> 00:59:12,679
to move over time just by seed dispersal, gradually up

1010
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:18,199
to more beneficial growing conditions and higher elevations, but they're

1011
00:59:18,239 --> 00:59:20,960
also becoming isolated. So this one population is now broken

1012
00:59:21,039 --> 00:59:26,800
up into twenty or thirty different populations subpopulations that then

1013
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,119
become their new species. And so that's what happened, not

1014
00:59:29,239 --> 00:59:34,519
only with the California cypresses Haspero cyprus. There's like ten

1015
00:59:34,599 --> 00:59:36,760
species in California. A lot of them are fucking cool

1016
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:40,679
and really really beautiful plants, but they're restricted to certain

1017
00:59:40,719 --> 00:59:45,960
soil types like gabbro or serpentine or whatever. That's also

1018
00:59:46,039 --> 00:59:49,400
what happened with the peridles, the rock daisies. And to

1019
00:59:49,519 --> 00:59:52,760
make this plant lineage, which is just again a little

1020
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:57,039
fucking daisy looking thing, to make it even cooler is

1021
00:59:57,079 --> 01:00:01,039
that they only grow these ones, at least this clade,

1022
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:04,400
they only grow out of cracks and rock walls, So

1023
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,880
they're cosmo fights. A cosmo fight is a plant that

1024
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,360
grows out of a crack in a rock wall. Now,

1025
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:13,880
I wonder if you got, like a plant that grows

1026
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:18,519
out of concrete retaining walls in cities, is that still

1027
01:00:18,559 --> 01:00:21,639
technically a cosmo fight, A ruteral cosmo fight, probably I

1028
01:00:21,679 --> 01:00:24,480
would call it that. But anyway, traveling around with Isaac

1029
01:00:24,519 --> 01:00:26,360
in twenty nineteen when he was doing his PhD, and

1030
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:29,119
this is what got me interested in this lineage in

1031
01:00:29,199 --> 01:00:32,559
this clade, and so I learned there was a new

1032
01:00:32,639 --> 01:00:34,800
Mexico one that I hadn't seen yet, so I wanted

1033
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,639
to go see it. My fucking camera died too, My

1034
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:40,639
nice camera for taking nice pictures died when I got there.

1035
01:00:40,719 --> 01:00:43,559
The battery, I didn't have any extra batteries in the battery.

1036
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:47,159
Shit the bed. But it was a short hike down.

1037
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,880
We were like six thousand foot elevations, so it's transitioned

1038
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:55,840
from Chihuahua desert to the higher elevation dug fir forests

1039
01:00:56,039 --> 01:01:01,039
in the Sacramento Mountains. But it was a was always intermediate,

1040
01:01:01,079 --> 01:01:03,559
so you're getting some of the stuff from up above.

1041
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,039
You could tell it's the climate's getting a little bit

1042
01:01:06,119 --> 01:01:09,159
more conducive to plant life. It's not just creoso bush,

1043
01:01:09,199 --> 01:01:13,119
scrub and misk like it is at four thousand feet.

1044
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,039
But uh, but we're not right. We're not quite at

1045
01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:18,920
the dug fur force yet, which meant a lot of

1046
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,559
them looked like shit. There was a lot of branch

1047
01:01:20,639 --> 01:01:23,360
die back, I guess from a tussock moth, which is

1048
01:01:23,559 --> 01:01:25,480
I think it native. I think that the dug fer

1049
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:27,880
tussick month is native. But I know I had seen

1050
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,039
a paper where they were not a paper, a news

1051
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:33,360
report where the tussock moth was causing branches to just

1052
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:37,119
ebb size from planted dug furs in Santa Fe. Have

1053
01:01:37,239 --> 01:01:39,440
you ever been to Santa Fe before? Has anyone ever

1054
01:01:39,519 --> 01:01:41,440
been banned from Santa Fe before? It seems like a

1055
01:01:41,519 --> 01:01:44,639
really easy town to get banned from. Uh, it's like

1056
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:49,159
the Berkeley of New Mexico. Is that is that right?

1057
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:53,559
Or what about tows you anyway? Uh? The point is

1058
01:01:54,039 --> 01:01:56,119
we were. We went on this nice little hike going

1059
01:01:56,199 --> 01:01:58,760
down and it's all limestone affiliates. There was Sydney at

1060
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:05,719
Tenuifolio there, which is Chihuahua desert daisy bush basically asta racy,

1061
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,159
great in a native plant garden. I got a bunch

1062
01:02:08,239 --> 01:02:09,880
in my yard. They do great, happy as a pig,

1063
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,360
and shit in full sun. As long as you water them.

1064
01:02:12,360 --> 01:02:14,360
Every once in a while they take take off and

1065
01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:18,400
they can turn into like a five foot easily hedgeable

1066
01:02:18,519 --> 01:02:22,280
bush with daisies that come off of it, very waxy leaves,

1067
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:26,480
pleasant smells and leaves too. Skeleton leaf GoldenEye is the

1068
01:02:26,519 --> 01:02:27,920
common name. I don't know where the fuck that name

1069
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:31,760
came from, but that was there. There was Coberlinius spinosa,

1070
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:35,000
which of course is a monotypic family. It's the only

1071
01:02:35,079 --> 01:02:39,760
species in the family uh photosynthetic stems. You know, the

1072
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:42,440
taper into sharp spines looks like it looks like a

1073
01:02:42,519 --> 01:02:45,960
crucifixion bush. Which there's like, you know, two other two

1074
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:48,920
or three other plant species that do that, Castilla and

1075
01:02:49,039 --> 01:02:56,599
morai Castillas duertie and uh Kenosia halakanta. But oh and

1076
01:02:56,679 --> 01:02:59,199
a bunch of Dasilirium wheeler right too, which is a

1077
01:02:59,239 --> 01:03:03,400
beautiful So it's the blue sodol I want to get

1078
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,400
seeds of that. That's Ailirium. Sodos are easy to grow.

1079
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:09,519
They just take a while. And I feel like, you know, well,

1080
01:03:09,559 --> 01:03:12,519
the seeds won't germinate unless they're at seventy degrees fahrenheit

1081
01:03:12,719 --> 01:03:16,199
or less. They don't like a lot of heat. I mean,

1082
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:18,119
I don't know if it's exactly seventy degrees fair hut,

1083
01:03:18,119 --> 01:03:19,599
but you just you don't want these things to be hot.

1084
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,920
You don't want it hot in the you know, when

1085
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:23,440
you're trying to germinate these things, you don't want it

1086
01:03:23,519 --> 01:03:27,159
ninety degrees fahrenheit. So what is it in Celsius it's

1087
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:32,800
what's the equation. It's fahrenheit degrees divided by two minus

1088
01:03:34,159 --> 01:03:37,760
what is it thirty? Oh my bad, it's it's it's

1089
01:03:37,800 --> 01:03:41,320
subtract thirty from the fahrenheit temperature, then divide by two.

1090
01:03:42,079 --> 01:03:44,920
So when you're doing fahrenheit the celsius, subtract thirty from

1091
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,760
the fahrenheit temperature, so it would be ninety minus thirty.

1092
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:52,920
It's sixty divided by two. It's thirty degrees celsius rough estimate,

1093
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,960
and then celsius the fahrenheit is just the exact reverse that.

1094
01:03:56,119 --> 01:04:00,159
Multiply by two, then add thirty, So like you know,

1095
01:04:00,239 --> 01:04:05,599
twenty degrees celsius times two'd be forty forty plus thirty

1096
01:04:05,639 --> 01:04:09,519
seventy degrees fahrenheit, which actual is like sixty eight degrees fahrenheit.

1097
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:11,599
But that's that's a good conversion. Now I just need

1098
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,519
a proper one for meters to feet because it's not

1099
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:19,760
always so easy as divide by three anyway. But so yeah,

1100
01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:22,239
so that's the Lariu wheel. I was there Cobralinius spinosa

1101
01:04:22,360 --> 01:04:26,480
condalia worn nakii, which is ramnasy. It's also got spines

1102
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:29,559
that just taper it the sharp points very reduced leaves,

1103
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:33,119
linear leaves, and tiny fucking flowers that look like sion.

1104
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:36,400
Note this's flowers or is the zeiphis flowers you know,

1105
01:04:36,599 --> 01:04:40,480
is the snapomorphies of ramnacy or just even the gestalt

1106
01:04:40,559 --> 01:04:44,840
of ramnacy in dry areas. Ramnacy the Buckdorne family of course,

1107
01:04:45,000 --> 01:04:48,039
very diverse in dry areas. That was down there, and

1108
01:04:48,159 --> 01:04:51,000
then well really surprised me when you get so I

1109
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:52,639
knew this thing grew out of rock. I knew this

1110
01:04:52,719 --> 01:04:55,400
peridley species. Now at Lefami it grew out of rock.

1111
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,159
And so I was looking for the rock out crops

1112
01:04:58,639 --> 01:05:02,400
which were down at the base of the canyon where

1113
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:07,000
the river has cut through, and so anyway, so we

1114
01:05:08,079 --> 01:05:09,960
kept walking and then sure enough we hit the rock

1115
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:12,800
out crop like right there. Boom was First off, I

1116
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,400
saw this fucking salvia species that I prior to this

1117
01:05:15,559 --> 01:05:18,920
I had only read about. I'd never seen it. Salvia pinguefolia,

1118
01:05:19,559 --> 01:05:23,840
which is a bush sage. Smells incredible. It's got purple flowers,

1119
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,760
and it's growing. It only grows in habitat out of

1120
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,400
pure fucking limestone. So it's a it's a it's kind

1121
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,360
of like Salvia funaria in the Majave Desert, but it's

1122
01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:39,000
not as white and wooly. I mean, Salvia funerea is

1123
01:05:39,039 --> 01:05:41,039
an extreme, you know, because that's the driest desert in

1124
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:43,559
North America, the Mojave Desert. It grows in Death Valley.

1125
01:05:44,119 --> 01:05:48,199
But this thing, it was still covered in pubescents. It

1126
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,199
had some hair, but it was the leaves, aren't you know.

1127
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:53,599
They don't look like a cotton swab like Salvia funerea does. Anyway,

1128
01:05:54,559 --> 01:05:58,639
I was, I was so fucking stoked to see this species.

1129
01:05:58,679 --> 01:06:00,800
And I guess it's pretty rare. It only grows in

1130
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:05,039
southeastern Arizona, southern New Mexico, and then supposedly in West Texas,

1131
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,000
you know, but probably on some rich pricks land who

1132
01:06:08,000 --> 01:06:10,840
won't give you access, you know, like so much. It's

1133
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:13,760
it's the Texas conundrum. I'm really getting fucking tired of

1134
01:06:13,800 --> 01:06:15,960
that state. I love it. There's things I love about it, certainly,

1135
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:21,639
not the culture, but you know, I like the plants

1136
01:06:21,679 --> 01:06:25,199
and the geology, some of the some of the other

1137
01:06:25,239 --> 01:06:29,000
shit out there anyway, So so that was really exciting

1138
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:31,679
to see. And then there was a seedum. Of course,

1139
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:35,199
you always find the cool shit on the rocky outcrops, right,

1140
01:06:35,239 --> 01:06:37,119
because it's you're going to find stuff that can grow

1141
01:06:37,239 --> 01:06:40,960
or that can't tolerate other conditions, it would get smothered.

1142
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,159
And then of course you're gonna find you know, they

1143
01:06:43,239 --> 01:06:46,639
can the stuff you find on rocky outcrops doesn't have

1144
01:06:46,679 --> 01:06:49,159
any competition because a lot of shit can't grow out

1145
01:06:49,199 --> 01:06:52,159
of pure rock without any soil. It's just so you've

1146
01:06:52,159 --> 01:06:53,760
got to have drought tolerance. So you've got to be

1147
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,400
able to grow send your roots into the cracks in

1148
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,639
a rock wall or whatever. And so that's where the

1149
01:06:58,719 --> 01:07:01,719
salvia was growing. That's where this seedum was growing. Seedums

1150
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:05,000
of course have you know succulent storage mechan and they

1151
01:07:05,039 --> 01:07:10,239
could just little fleshy, crassillaceous bastards. And there was a

1152
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:13,079
cool gallium, I think it was gallium righty eye, which

1153
01:07:13,159 --> 01:07:16,519
is you know, bedstraw ruby ac the coffee family, but

1154
01:07:16,559 --> 01:07:19,559
this one had tiny red flowers. To see a gallium

1155
01:07:19,599 --> 01:07:24,840
with red flowers, And then the fuck else was there

1156
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,960
and then there was a kind of serious thing. It

1157
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:29,599
was just Coccinius, one of like the five different subspecies.

1158
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:33,719
And then sure enough there was the perridally just growing

1159
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:37,679
on this this limestone cliff thirty feet above. You know,

1160
01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:39,880
definitely got to be sure not to fall and break

1161
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,840
your ass. It's a sketchy it's this sketchy fall, but

1162
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,559
it was, you know, another variation on the theme. I've

1163
01:07:47,599 --> 01:07:51,000
seen so many different prittley species in New Mexico, maybe

1164
01:07:51,079 --> 01:07:53,320
four or five. And then there's a shif ton in

1165
01:07:53,400 --> 01:07:55,599
West Texas, a bunch you can't access because they're on

1166
01:07:55,679 --> 01:07:58,880
private land. They could go at any moment, you know,

1167
01:07:59,480 --> 01:08:02,440
if the land and donor sides to get rid of

1168
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,599
them for whatever reason. But oh god, there was ah.

1169
01:08:08,199 --> 01:08:10,880
And then on the gypsum there were these gypsum exposures too.

1170
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:14,280
You could see White Sands National Monument from the top

1171
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:15,719
of the mountain range. Like when I was in the

1172
01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,880
dug Fur Force. You can look out and see this

1173
01:08:18,119 --> 01:08:22,920
vast expanse of white dunes, gyps some sand dunes from

1174
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:28,720
the top of this mountain range. It was fucking wild.

1175
01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:31,399
I didn't realize, I mean, I didn't realize we were

1176
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:36,560
that close, I guess. But but where we were the

1177
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,680
spot we were hiking at six thousand feet lower down

1178
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:43,560
where the peridally was, there were there were these exposures

1179
01:08:43,600 --> 01:08:47,199
of gypsum and they just they erode so differently. You know,

1180
01:08:47,239 --> 01:08:50,239
they're they're much more soluble in water, so they look

1181
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:53,600
like eroding sand castles, like you'd be walking up this

1182
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:57,319
limestone hill and then there's a gypsum exposure which has

1183
01:08:57,359 --> 01:09:00,399
a different color and texture, and the soil just suddenly

1184
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:05,079
looks like this barren, eroding gray sand castle. It's got

1185
01:09:05,119 --> 01:09:08,800
the sand castle look to it. And that's where I

1186
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:11,720
saw a cleasanthis diffusa everywhere, which is like it's a

1187
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,600
nic tageneci. It's it's which there's a ship ton in

1188
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:18,880
the desert, you know, bougain Via family, Mirabilis family. But

1189
01:09:19,079 --> 01:09:22,199
this thing was it's got these little, these little winged

1190
01:09:22,279 --> 01:09:26,800
fruits and it's it's a woody subshrub. God, it was

1191
01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:28,119
cool to see and it was it was like the

1192
01:09:28,199 --> 01:09:32,920
only thing growing on some of these gypsum exposures. And

1193
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:35,159
there was another I think we saw Cipho maris, another

1194
01:09:35,439 --> 01:09:39,079
weird nicktag. But you know, the nicktags normally have opposite leaves,

1195
01:09:39,079 --> 01:09:41,840
their carry off fyle leaves, so they've got betelene pigments,

1196
01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:45,359
so like any pinks or reds in them, or purples

1197
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,119
look more like the pigment you would see in a

1198
01:09:48,239 --> 01:09:51,560
beet or a cactus fruit than you know, the red

1199
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,239
pigment you might see and you know something like that's

1200
01:09:54,239 --> 01:09:56,319
a member of the blueberry family or the rose family,

1201
01:09:56,359 --> 01:10:01,000
et cetera. So it was. But these things, these things

1202
01:10:01,039 --> 01:10:02,800
are like tough as nails. It's like growing out a

1203
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,640
barren gypsum. And then you realize that this gypsum eroding

1204
01:10:05,800 --> 01:10:09,439
is what is constantly eroding from gypsum exposures like this

1205
01:10:09,560 --> 01:10:12,680
in these mountains is basically what formed White Sands National

1206
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:17,039
Monument where they got that rare earless lizard. My friend

1207
01:10:17,119 --> 01:10:20,239
Spencer just saw it. I guess, fucking earless lizard. You know,

1208
01:10:20,279 --> 01:10:23,760
it looks like a reptilian overlord theme, like when they

1209
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:27,560
don't have yours. They look really that's when I start

1210
01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:33,039
looking real real, you know, they look more human. It's disconcerting.

1211
01:10:33,239 --> 01:10:34,760
I'll say that. He showed me a picture of it.

1212
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,119
Was disconcerting. Oh wow, you know, unrelated, but I just

1213
01:10:39,279 --> 01:10:44,239
got noticed that, Oh that's fucking dope. That this plant

1214
01:10:44,319 --> 01:10:46,600
that I thought was just a boring old sedge. No

1215
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:50,960
offense to anybody that's that likes the ciperacy, but I

1216
01:10:51,079 --> 01:10:55,119
saw it in these ephemeral pools up in the paramo

1217
01:10:55,239 --> 01:10:59,760
of Costa Rica. Really weird looking monocot looked like an octopus,

1218
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:03,920
was spiny tentacles upside down. When I saw it, I

1219
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,800
looked like an isoetes. But I you know, I picked

1220
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:08,199
off a leaf or two and there were I didn't

1221
01:11:08,199 --> 01:11:10,439
see any black sporangia, but I guess it just wasn't

1222
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:12,600
producing sports at the time. But I just got word

1223
01:11:13,399 --> 01:11:17,560
from eye naturalist. Thank you. By the way, fucking einad Is.

1224
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:21,279
It blows my mind that some people shit on that app,

1225
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:24,000
mostly old Caucasian. Mentally, you shouldn't listen to them anyway.

1226
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:26,960
I'm not not a hashtag, not all old Caucasian men.

1227
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,119
But I'm just saying the only people I've heard complain

1228
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:34,199
and shit on it are old, old white guys. But

1229
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:40,279
uh it, professional botanists in a professional capacity, they're very professional.

1230
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:43,840
They do professional work, and they're very career oriented in

1231
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:48,800
the field of botany. They do wonderful things, very important things,

1232
01:11:48,920 --> 01:11:53,279
important work, important field work in a professional capacity for

1233
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:58,479
botany in the state of Texas anyway. Yeah, but you

1234
01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:00,560
should listen to those people anyway. But the point is,

1235
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:07,439
you know the fact that people would shit on on

1236
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,920
I natural suppose of mine. But but this thanks to

1237
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:19,039
the I naturalist uh Rafael rafaela Cuna, Rafael acunya. Excuse me,

1238
01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:21,439
it just it was all one word. I couldn't read

1239
01:12:21,439 --> 01:12:24,279
it the right way. An I naturalist went through he

1240
01:12:24,399 --> 01:12:27,920
was going through Allen's observations, saw it, and then he

1241
01:12:28,119 --> 01:12:30,520
had hit some of my observations. But I guess he didn't.

1242
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,840
I've got so much shit up there for plants. So

1243
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:36,800
he was he was going through Allen's observations, saw it,

1244
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,760
commented Alan contacted me, said does this look like more

1245
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,680
like an isoetes? And I said, yeah, it does. But

1246
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,199
you know I there was. There were none reported from

1247
01:12:45,239 --> 01:12:49,279
the flora of the Talamanca Mountains. I guess they just

1248
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:53,119
maybe they just left out Sela janella or like a potiac.

1249
01:12:53,359 --> 01:12:56,800
I don't know, no, because they didn't. I remember looking

1250
01:12:56,880 --> 01:13:00,279
up WHUPERSI a species. Anyway, I didn't see it there,

1251
01:13:00,399 --> 01:13:02,840
so I figured maybe there's none here. But the fucking

1252
01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,920
habitat sure seemed right. I mean, like an ephemeral shallow pond,

1253
01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,640
you know, ten inches deep. I was there in the

1254
01:13:09,720 --> 01:13:12,279
dry season. It was empty. We were just there in

1255
01:13:12,359 --> 01:13:16,119
mid July early July, and it was full. But that

1256
01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:18,960
was a goddamned Isoetes. And then yeah, just I normally

1257
01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,800
I've only seen one or two is Isowhetes species before,

1258
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,840
so I wasn't entirely familiar with it. But I know

1259
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,479
that the sporangia at the base of the leaves underwater.

1260
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:30,319
I pulled some up, didn't see any and I figured, okay, well,

1261
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,640
I don't know. I thought it was just an allocaris

1262
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,880
because it's you know, sedges. And also there was a

1263
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:39,000
mishap we had in Tasmania and I still never got

1264
01:13:39,079 --> 01:13:42,560
resolution on this. We were looking for this really cool

1265
01:13:43,359 --> 01:13:47,880
same thing, an aquatic plant that grows in ephemeral, shallow

1266
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:53,800
ponds in rocky areas. That plant was Tritheria philamentosa. And

1267
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:56,279
it's still I still never got any resolution on this.

1268
01:13:56,720 --> 01:14:04,439
You know, this is a weird basal angiosperm. Let's see. Yeah,

1269
01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:07,119
and I still don't know if it was Tritheria or

1270
01:14:07,239 --> 01:14:10,760
if it was a sedge. I think it was Tritheria,

1271
01:14:12,079 --> 01:14:14,319
and I collected a little piece for DNA sampling and

1272
01:14:14,359 --> 01:14:15,720
sent it to Allen, but I think he lost it.

1273
01:14:15,760 --> 01:14:21,319
He's got too much shit. To sequence anyway, really doing

1274
01:14:21,359 --> 01:14:23,039
good work. Though by a way, I wish it was

1275
01:14:23,079 --> 01:14:28,359
as easy to DNA sequence plants. If anyone out there

1276
01:14:28,399 --> 01:14:30,640
wants to teach me, so I can teach others, and

1277
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:33,560
you work in a DNA sequencing lab. Well, also there's

1278
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,840
he's just using its for a lot of this stuff

1279
01:14:36,199 --> 01:14:38,439
which works with plants. It gets a little bit more complicated.

1280
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:40,640
There's like five or six more gene regions. But if

1281
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,600
anyone out there wants to teach me and needs help

1282
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,600
in the lab, I will come work in your lab

1283
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,239
for free if you could teach me DNA sequencing, and

1284
01:14:48,359 --> 01:14:50,560
then so I can teach others, so we can start

1285
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:52,840
doing what all the funky people are doing with plants,

1286
01:14:53,359 --> 01:14:57,479
you know, which is citizen sciences, not people who work

1287
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:01,960
in a professional capacity. They don't work professionals than not experts,

1288
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:07,319
but just citizens, you know, citizens scientists, criminal scientists. Starts

1289
01:15:07,359 --> 01:15:12,399
sequencing plants and then uploading those sequences of various gene

1290
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:16,000
regions to GenBank. It could really do a lot of good.

1291
01:15:16,039 --> 01:15:18,439
I mean, the more people we have sequencing stuff the better.

1292
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:20,479
But anyway, if you want to teach me, that's oh,

1293
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,439
I don't care where you are. If you're in fucking Germany,

1294
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:24,199
I'll go to German. If you're in Hong Kong, I'll

1295
01:15:24,199 --> 01:15:27,159
go to Hong Kong. Teach me sequencing. Put the word

1296
01:15:27,159 --> 01:15:29,800
out there, please, and then I will fucking teach other people.

1297
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:34,840
I'll do what Alan's been doing for fungi. But Tritheria

1298
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,560
philamentosa was thought to be It was thought to be

1299
01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,279
something else. What was it it said or something, and

1300
01:15:39,319 --> 01:15:41,760
then when it was sequenced, it was discovered. Holy shit,

1301
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:45,439
this thing is in one of the more basal angiosperm orders,

1302
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:51,720
the Nimphiales. Along with along with the quote water lilies

1303
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:56,159
and all, this one of the families in Nymphiales, right,

1304
01:15:56,239 --> 01:16:00,640
it's the order after amber l a Lees, which is

1305
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:05,359
the most basal of the orders of angiosperms with flowering plants. Yeah,

1306
01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:09,600
Hi to Telac Cabambase and ninmphi ac are the three families,

1307
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:12,520
and Nymphi a Lees, which is the nmphi Alies. I

1308
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:14,680
need to remember anytime it ends in Alies. It's an order.

1309
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:21,840
Ninphi Alis is sandwich between amberrell A Lei's everybody knows Amberella.

1310
01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:23,720
If you don't, you're really fucking them. You gotta learn

1311
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:25,840
about You gotta read about amborella. You know, maybe if

1312
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:28,000
you're just new to this, read about amberrella. It's a

1313
01:16:28,039 --> 01:16:31,399
fucking fascinating plant. Doesn't get enough respect. It's so so

1314
01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,119
weird looking. I've seen it in New Caledonia in those humid,

1315
01:16:36,279 --> 01:16:40,600
humid tropical forests at a thousand meters. Maybe they're less

1316
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,279
than that. Maybe it's like three thousand. Maybe it's less

1317
01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:47,279
than three thousand feet. I don't know, but there's flying

1318
01:16:47,399 --> 01:16:50,199
foxes and tree ferns where they grow. It's an understory plant,

1319
01:16:50,239 --> 01:16:54,359
but it's the basalmost angiosperm wild ninpa Ale's the sandwichween

1320
01:16:54,439 --> 01:16:58,479
amberrell A Leis and Austro Bailey Alies, which is where

1321
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,279
Skysandra and strabaili ac Sky's in. I gotta make that

1322
01:17:02,399 --> 01:17:04,359
that's the rare plant from the Atlanta area. I got

1323
01:17:04,439 --> 01:17:07,159
to make that video. Still put that out there. Really

1324
01:17:07,239 --> 01:17:09,159
been slacking on the videos. I apologize. I need a

1325
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:11,640
fucking break, man. I've been going through hard. I'm doing

1326
01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:14,600
other stuff. You know, I'll be back on a game soon.

1327
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,159
Don't worry. But uh hind to tell ac I think

1328
01:17:18,279 --> 01:17:20,760
is the family try Thuria t r I t h

1329
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,720
u r I a if you if you need some

1330
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,680
shit to read and like a lunch breaker, some read

1331
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:28,239
about try thuria. It's a fucking weird one. Ask deep

1332
01:17:28,319 --> 01:17:34,279
Seek about tri Thuria philamintosa and he's in you AI,

1333
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:38,680
you know, using AI to read research papers and teach

1334
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,840
yourself Spanish or teach yourself, you know, plant taxonomies. Not

1335
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:45,279
it's not like you're making, you know, posters of cartoon

1336
01:17:45,399 --> 01:17:49,159
dogs driving fucking fire trucks and jerking off. Actually could

1337
01:17:49,159 --> 01:17:51,600
you do that? How much? How much water would that take?

1338
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,960
How much water and energy would it take to make

1339
01:17:54,039 --> 01:17:58,000
a dirty cartoon AI of a Dalmatian in a fire

1340
01:17:58,079 --> 01:18:01,039
truck driving a fire truck, but maybe like with a

1341
01:18:01,319 --> 01:18:04,439
scowl on, like he just stole it and jerking off

1342
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,560
in the driver's seat. Only my sick mind could think

1343
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,680
of something as ridiculous that, But it is kind of

1344
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:14,600
funny at the same time. What a waste of energy

1345
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:17,359
and water for the modern age. But anyway, read about tritheria.

1346
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:22,479
But that was my that was my bad running because

1347
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:25,920
when you get to these these highly reduced monocot look

1348
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:29,840
and aquatic bastards, it can be you're looking at such

1349
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,680
subtle traits, especially if there's no reproductive structure that it's

1350
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,560
a real mind fuck trying to look at what trying

1351
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,720
to figure out what you're looking at. So my tritheria

1352
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:43,640
identification on a naturalist is still unresolved. I think it's

1353
01:18:43,720 --> 01:18:46,640
not a research grade yet and it shouldn't be. But

1354
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:52,479
let's see. Miguel looked at it. He said, I think

1355
01:18:52,520 --> 01:18:54,840
it's too unlike any of the other possibilities. But you know,

1356
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:59,359
you need someone who's a real sedge nerd to really

1357
01:18:59,439 --> 01:19:02,000
come at this. And because any so much cool shit

1358
01:19:02,039 --> 01:19:04,399
can look like sedges. And I'm not saying that sedges

1359
01:19:04,399 --> 01:19:08,000
aren't cool, but Cyperasi I lose. I lose a little

1360
01:19:08,039 --> 01:19:12,319
bit of my enthusiasm, you know, unless you're talking about

1361
01:19:12,479 --> 01:19:15,520
you know, some of the the what is the button

1362
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:19,800
sedge in Tasmania, Jim no, sheenis Spherrocephalus, which is a

1363
01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:23,479
keystone plant and also the foundation of much of the

1364
01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:28,880
peatlands that comprise the acidic soils of a lot of Tasmania,

1365
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:31,800
which and you getting you need those acidic peatlands to

1366
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,640
get all the cool carnivorous plants like drossers. And I

1367
01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,560
gotta go back to fucking Australia. I love it there.

1368
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,000
Australia is so nice. They're so nice. You know, they

1369
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:43,880
really are not as fucked up as we are. I

1370
01:19:44,079 --> 01:19:46,319
like guns, but I you know, I could gladly do

1371
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,279
without them. You know, the sad fact of the reality

1372
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:52,159
in the United States is that guns are never going away.

1373
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,000
And you know, you mix that with the insanity and

1374
01:19:55,039 --> 01:19:56,880
stupidity here. You just got to own a gun. It's

1375
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:58,000
just the way it is. You need to have a

1376
01:19:58,159 --> 01:19:59,399
you need to have a gun, and you need to

1377
01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,640
know how to shoot. If you live in the United States.

1378
01:20:02,119 --> 01:20:04,840
I would not miss them if I moved to Australia,

1379
01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,840
though I might still go hunting for feral cats and pigs.

1380
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,520
I was some guy sent me a video of h

1381
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:15,319
of this uh Bogan this AUSSI is Bogan offensive? It's not.

1382
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:19,319
It's not offensive, right, It's like redneck here some people

1383
01:20:19,399 --> 01:20:22,439
self identify as Bogans. But this bogan shooting feral cats

1384
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:25,680
and pigs using all this like thermal vision sculpts and shit,

1385
01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:29,119
wild crazy stuff. We just got two more feral pigs

1386
01:20:29,119 --> 01:20:32,159
at Thorn scrub by the way. Drew Drew Niedo went

1387
01:20:32,199 --> 01:20:35,079
out there and he they died in the trap. Which

1388
01:20:35,119 --> 01:20:37,279
sucks for them. You know, they were they just got

1389
01:20:37,319 --> 01:20:41,600
too hot, but they were destroying uh, you know, probably

1390
01:20:42,039 --> 01:20:46,560
hundreds of plants, uh in the meantime, but they died

1391
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,119
in the trap. And so now it's just a vulture party.

1392
01:20:49,239 --> 01:20:51,960
And we didn't have to use any bullets, which means

1393
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,800
we didn't you know, especially for the I used lead

1394
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,600
free bullets now. But because I don't want to poison

1395
01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:58,880
the vultures in the car cars, you know, and those

1396
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,000
are my guys, I want I want to take care

1397
01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:04,560
of them, you know, And so I think how many

1398
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:06,600
have we gotten now? Eight? We'll be doing this for

1399
01:21:06,680 --> 01:21:10,039
the rest of Thorn Scrubb's existence as a conservation property,

1400
01:21:10,199 --> 01:21:12,079
because the pigs aren't going away. It's just like weeding,

1401
01:21:12,119 --> 01:21:13,920
you got to keep doing it. And there's so many

1402
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:18,840
of them. It's so sad, I mean, the damage they're doing.

1403
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:21,279
We'd like to eventually fence the whole property, but that's

1404
01:21:21,319 --> 01:21:26,199
gonna cost twenty or thirty grand. But anyway, Yeah, I'm excited.

1405
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:29,319
We're gonna we're probably gonna have a I guess they're

1406
01:21:29,319 --> 01:21:32,439
gonna at some point this winter. We're gonna invite the

1407
01:21:32,439 --> 01:21:37,840
comanches down to have a prayer ceremony, then a paoty

1408
01:21:37,960 --> 01:21:41,760
ceremony maybe and then just fence off more of the

1409
01:21:42,279 --> 01:21:47,520
the gardens, so the wild gardens, the wild payoty gardens.

1410
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:50,079
But anyway, but yeah, I gotta get back to Australia.

1411
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:52,520
You know I could do without. You know, I'll gladly

1412
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:56,000
trading the gun thing for the free or affordable healthcare

1413
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:02,279
and just a generally more pleasant uh less idiotic, which

1414
01:22:02,319 --> 01:22:08,600
isn't saying much civic populous. And plus the plant diversity

1415
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,119
is just epic. You know, the lapids, the venomous snakes.

1416
01:22:13,319 --> 01:22:15,359
They're cool from a distance, but they still freak me

1417
01:22:15,399 --> 01:22:17,760
the fuck out. Remember seeing a tiger snake in the

1418
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:21,880
alpine areas of Tasmania, a melanistic tiger snake, and just

1419
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:25,479
being like, you're not expecting to see a cobra relative

1420
01:22:26,319 --> 01:22:28,159
in a in a place where you've got to like

1421
01:22:28,520 --> 01:22:31,520
wear a daygo tea and like a thick hooded sweatshirt

1422
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,560
to stay warm. But that's what goes on, you know,

1423
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:41,680
chillin in the athro Texas forests of highlands of Tasmania.

1424
01:22:44,439 --> 01:22:47,199
But yeah, anyway, God, there were still some videos from Tasmania.

1425
01:22:47,199 --> 01:22:50,720
I didn't finish making like we saw that weird quote

1426
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:55,239
the shrimp. It was an arthropod. It's like a weird arthropod.

1427
01:22:55,239 --> 01:22:58,119
It's a Gondwana and arthropod that's got relatives in Chile

1428
01:22:58,319 --> 01:23:01,800
and in Tasmania, Like the just dispersed across southern Chile,

1429
01:23:02,720 --> 01:23:05,439
in South America and Tasmania. So it's you know, total

1430
01:23:06,039 --> 01:23:10,359
gondwan and reliced. And I didn't put that video in there.

1431
01:23:10,359 --> 01:23:13,000
I got a fuck man. It breaks my heart. You know,

1432
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,399
some of the stuff I gotta do, I wish I

1433
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,680
just it's it's hard though. Editing sucks. It takes a

1434
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:19,760
lot of time and you kind of have to put

1435
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:24,199
life on hold for it. But yeah, the Jim nosenis

1436
01:23:24,319 --> 01:23:27,199
sphere ofcephalis there. It's a really cool button sedge. It

1437
01:23:27,279 --> 01:23:30,000
sends up a scape and then it's got this this

1438
01:23:30,279 --> 01:23:33,039
button like inflorescent stuff top looks like a little ride

1439
01:23:33,159 --> 01:23:35,199
kind of looks like a button willow in fluorescence, like

1440
01:23:35,239 --> 01:23:38,680
a little spherical globe on a rod. And then when

1441
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,560
those roots die, it makes those peat lands. And that's

1442
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:44,840
the same phenomenon I saw happen in the Paramo with

1443
01:23:45,039 --> 01:23:48,399
Cheskea subtests a lot of this bamboo that's just fucking everywhere,

1444
01:23:48,439 --> 01:23:52,039
and when it dies, it makes this peat material that

1445
01:23:52,840 --> 01:23:57,600
you know is highly acidic, uh, and it causes this

1446
01:23:58,279 --> 01:24:01,000
you know, this basically the sub straight of this plant

1447
01:24:01,039 --> 01:24:03,039
community to be vary acid its only a few things

1448
01:24:04,479 --> 01:24:06,680
can thrive there. And I think it also is part

1449
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:09,560
of what helps the forest surrounding forests because you're not

1450
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,279
in the alpine area. It fills alpine, but there's trees

1451
01:24:12,359 --> 01:24:15,760
can grow at this altitude, at ten thousand feet in

1452
01:24:16,760 --> 01:24:18,760
you know, nine degrees north latitude. And I think that

1453
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:22,239
acidic soil that peatland created by the roots of the Chiskea,

1454
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:27,359
the New World bamboo excellent fur caning is what helps

1455
01:24:29,039 --> 01:24:33,880
keep the forest from moving in and also dictates what

1456
01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,840
grows there. I mean, it's such a bizarre habitat. It's

1457
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,479
like peatlands with this bamboo that gets six feet tall,

1458
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,359
forming these little clumps of islands and then these intermittent ponds,

1459
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:49,560
which is where this Isohetes was growing. You know, Isoetes

1460
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:54,880
relative of the lepidodendron scale trees from the carboniferous. So

1461
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:59,640
you know, I did think that was the isohetes thing

1462
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:01,560
when I I first saw it crossed my mind, but

1463
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,199
I didn't see any sporangios, so I just put it

1464
01:25:03,239 --> 01:25:07,119
down as a sedge, you know. But yeah, tri Thuria

1465
01:25:07,239 --> 01:25:12,079
isowetes much cooler than sedges. No offense, all right. In

1466
01:25:12,199 --> 01:25:14,439
other news, I gotta give a shout out to whoever

1467
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:20,199
sent me this BLM Colorado Special Status Plant Species Guide

1468
01:25:20,479 --> 01:25:24,079
revised March twenty twenty five. It's someone asked me. I

1469
01:25:24,159 --> 01:25:26,399
forget whether it was over Instagram or email, but they right,

1470
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,159
they wrote me and said, hey, we just put this out.

1471
01:25:28,199 --> 01:25:32,159
You want one? I said, sure, and uh, I guarantee

1472
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,439
there this this kind of cool shit is going to

1473
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:39,880
stop since Trump's dumbass defunded, you know, basically defunded every

1474
01:25:40,359 --> 01:25:43,680
It's amazing how dystopic it has gotten. I try to

1475
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,840
not keep it too political here because there's Trumpers that

1476
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:50,039
I want to, you know, get into my cult. But

1477
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,319
it's just this shit. I mean, if you're still for

1478
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:55,520
this fucking guy, I mean, we could still get down.

1479
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:58,359
Don't talk to me about anything that requires intellect because

1480
01:25:58,359 --> 01:26:00,680
I just can't trust you anymore, but we can still

1481
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,880
get down and talk and hang up. But fucking hey,

1482
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:08,800
it's just it's unbelievable, you know, the shit he's doing.

1483
01:26:09,159 --> 01:26:12,399
Not to mention that, you know, kidnapping people all the

1484
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:16,760
ice shit is disgusting. Again. I just I don't know

1485
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,840
how we got here in this country, but I'm starting

1486
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:23,520
to you know, I want by the end of my life,

1487
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:25,279
no matter how long I live, I want my time

1488
01:26:25,359 --> 01:26:27,960
in the US only to be you know, moonlighting and

1489
01:26:28,039 --> 01:26:31,840
only coming back here because I have to very very intermittent.

1490
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,399
It's just it's it's not getting any better. It's a dystopia.

1491
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,840
The public's only getting dumber. People are so bamboozled here,

1492
01:26:38,399 --> 01:26:40,800
it's just fucking mind blowing. And not to mention, we've

1493
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:43,600
created the ugliest landscape in the first world. You know

1494
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:47,680
that's bad for the physical, mental, and spiritual health. Just

1495
01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:51,520
driving from parking lot, the parking lot completely isolated from

1496
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,159
each other, ugly plastic scigns. But you've heard me go

1497
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:58,079
through this before. Parking lots fucking used car dealerships or

1498
01:26:58,199 --> 01:27:00,159
just car dealerships in general, then't have to be you us,

1499
01:27:00,239 --> 01:27:02,600
you know it could be. It's normally you don't make

1500
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:04,199
a lot of money and used cars. You make most

1501
01:27:04,239 --> 01:27:07,359
of the money selling the new ones and duping people

1502
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:12,880
into you know, into basically getting locked into a finance contract,

1503
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,039
so they spend twenty k more than they would have

1504
01:27:15,119 --> 01:27:17,399
otherwise if they were able to just buy it hour. Anyway,

1505
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,119
I forget how even got on that fucking disjointed rant.

1506
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:24,560
Oh yeah, I was just shitting on the Trump administration. Anyway.

1507
01:27:25,399 --> 01:27:29,000
This is a wonderful guide I got sent. It's spiral bound,

1508
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:32,039
no hardcover, it's all paper. They got a little plastic

1509
01:27:32,119 --> 01:27:35,720
thing on the back, but it is. The photos are incredible.

1510
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:39,039
I'm not sure who compiled it, but it's all these

1511
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:42,520
rare plants for Colorado, and of course the coolest ones

1512
01:27:43,079 --> 01:27:47,199
occur on barren landscapes like gypsum or some sort of

1513
01:27:47,319 --> 01:27:54,000
limestone talus. Here's Ipomophsis pollyantha, Gentianella tortiosa. I mean, I

1514
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:58,399
look at these landscapes and they're all somewhat low elevation

1515
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:01,439
for Colorado. They're not high up. They're not like alpine

1516
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:07,520
Ariogonum tumulosum woodside buckwheat. They just look incredible. There are

1517
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:10,640
places where I would see out a map and I'd see,

1518
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:15,199
you know, the contour lines of the betting planes of

1519
01:28:15,279 --> 01:28:18,159
the limestone from a satellite map, and the generally barren,

1520
01:28:19,000 --> 01:28:22,000
whitish gray nature of the substrate, and immediately know there

1521
01:28:22,119 --> 01:28:24,520
was cool shit there. They may not be hyper diverse,

1522
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:26,800
but what's growing there is probably going to be restricted.

1523
01:28:27,399 --> 01:28:29,560
And you know, have that kind of matted cushion look

1524
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:34,359
to it. I mean, just really fucking crazy stuff. I mean,

1525
01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,640
plants shouldn't be growing here. It's high, it's exceptionally dry

1526
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,039
and windy, it gets really cold winters. But there's stuff

1527
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:44,119
just thriving. Tons of astragglers, you know, and most of

1528
01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:49,159
the species in this book, this little booklet are astraggoluss.

1529
01:28:49,399 --> 01:28:54,760
And you know there's not many different genera. You know,

1530
01:28:54,920 --> 01:29:00,560
you've got your family's apac, plantagenac. You know, penstemen's simopterouslamation.

1531
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:05,279
Oh there's cactus in here, Sclero Cactus dasoni grows in

1532
01:29:05,359 --> 01:29:10,359
western Colorado near Grand Junction Fizaria. There's a few physarias,

1533
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:15,119
of course, a bunch of penstemens, bunch of astragolis. What

1534
01:29:15,319 --> 01:29:18,479
is this parthenium looking think Parthenium ligulatum. It's like a

1535
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:23,000
dwarf matted parthium that grows in northwestern Colorado by a

1536
01:29:23,279 --> 01:29:27,560
Dinosaur National Monument, only known from four populations, probably grows

1537
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:31,760
in Utah too. Holy shit, what is this Oxytropius bessii

1538
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:37,439
variety ob napiformist Bessie's loco weed. And it's grown on

1539
01:29:37,600 --> 01:29:43,439
these shale barrens with you know, very sparse plant cover.

1540
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:46,199
And then there's just these giant pink flushes of flowers.

1541
01:29:47,119 --> 01:29:51,319
There's Oreo carrier ra Lindsayi baragein ac and a little

1542
01:29:51,359 --> 01:29:56,279
white popcorn flowers. Everything's covered in hairs. Almost every plant

1543
01:29:56,359 --> 01:29:59,680
is covered in tiny hairs. Oreo carrier revelii named after

1544
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:04,640
Jim James Reveal obviously that grows in southwestern Colorado. It's

1545
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:06,920
got maps on every species page. I mean, this is

1546
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,079
a Whoever put this together did a great fucking job.

1547
01:30:09,159 --> 01:30:13,760
This is an excellent booklet. I am inspired. Whoever sent

1548
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,119
this to me? Who sent this? I can't find out

1549
01:30:16,119 --> 01:30:18,600
who sent this to me either. I searched my Instagram messages,

1550
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:21,399
I searched Gmail. I couldn't find shit. This thing's amazing.

1551
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,000
Look at this. They got landscape photos too, wonderful photographs.

1552
01:30:25,279 --> 01:30:29,920
You got habitat photos as well as flower and leaf photos.

1553
01:30:30,000 --> 01:30:35,479
It looks fucking spectacular. Neoperia lithophila, which is a carrot

1554
01:30:36,399 --> 01:30:42,680
it's APAC bills, Neoperia and my friends have photos in it.

1555
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:48,960
Matt Berger, Matt reala damn man. I don't know. I

1556
01:30:49,000 --> 01:30:51,600
don't know, but if you can get your hands on it, Oh, Gudirizia,

1557
01:30:51,640 --> 01:30:54,039
Ela Games. I don't even know that. But tons of

1558
01:30:54,199 --> 01:30:57,439
unheard of, little known plants. If you live in uh,

1559
01:30:58,279 --> 01:31:00,680
if you live in Colorado, I would only put this

1560
01:31:00,840 --> 01:31:04,640
on your your to do list, you know, acquiring this

1561
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:07,840
booklet somehow. I don't know if it's online again BLM

1562
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:13,000
Colorado Special Status Plant Species Guide from the US Department

1563
01:31:13,079 --> 01:31:16,159
of the Interior Bureau of Land Management. But Trump's going

1564
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:20,520
to cancel all that. Don't worry. It's so counterintuitive, the

1565
01:31:20,560 --> 01:31:24,920
shit this fucking idiot's doing. I saw another There was

1566
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:30,239
a video today showing the graph of China's electricity production

1567
01:31:30,439 --> 01:31:33,600
compared to the United States. Is electricity production and China

1568
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:36,520
is I mean, granted it's all feeding the tumor, but

1569
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,760
still you need electricity if you're It just goes against

1570
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:43,479
everything that the United that would be beneficial to the

1571
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:46,960
United States. And you know, China's is shooting up. The

1572
01:31:47,159 --> 01:31:49,800
US is is just staying at a mid level plateau

1573
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:54,199
because Trump's canceling all the renewables and oil and gas.

1574
01:31:54,319 --> 01:31:56,039
He's just you know, he's just pleasing the oil and

1575
01:31:56,119 --> 01:31:58,359
gas oligarchs, which have done such a great job of

1576
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:03,399
duping the American public, you know. And I don't think

1577
01:32:03,439 --> 01:32:05,880
the US is investing in nuclear at all, which they

1578
01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:07,960
probably should. I don't know. It's just fucking nuts, man.

1579
01:32:08,039 --> 01:32:10,920
I mean, this country is just so it's so toast.

1580
01:32:11,039 --> 01:32:13,800
It's so over and sad, you know. But you know,

1581
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:17,800
you spend forty years defunding education and you know, widening

1582
01:32:17,880 --> 01:32:21,159
the wealth gap and rewarding oligarchs. That's what's gonna happen. Anyway.

1583
01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:23,920
Let's look at the I don't know if you've ever

1584
01:32:23,960 --> 01:32:27,159
heard of California Carnivores. It's a carnivorous plant nursery. It's

1585
01:32:27,199 --> 01:32:31,720
a my friend Damon's carnivorous plant nursery, and I think

1586
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:34,439
it's sin Sebastopol. And I used to visit it when

1587
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,000
I lived in California. I would go visit him and

1588
01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,319
see all the wild shit he's got growing on. He's

1589
01:32:39,319 --> 01:32:43,039
got heliamphoros growing, and he's got him growing under lights

1590
01:32:43,119 --> 01:32:45,760
in a in a soda fridge because there of course

1591
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,199
from the Tipui habitats. They like it much cooler. He's

1592
01:32:49,279 --> 01:32:52,039
got Darlingtonia's, he's got a bunch of drossers, and he's

1593
01:32:52,079 --> 01:32:55,000
hybridizing a bunch of the penthes. But he hybridized this

1594
01:32:55,079 --> 01:32:58,520
in the penthes. It's basically a living rat trap. It's

1595
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:04,640
a hybrid between a Nepenthes species that you know, is

1596
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a true carnivore eats other things, and another the Penthes

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species that's known as the toilet Nepenthes. It's the lid

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01:33:13,079 --> 01:33:17,279
of the pitcher leaf produces an exitit that shrews go

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and eat, and then they shit inside the the trap.

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It's funny. It's like a gg Allen the Penthes. But

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he hybridized these two. And so the lid that holds

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01:33:28,279 --> 01:33:32,159
the exitit, which is the bait for the shrew. And

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01:33:32,359 --> 01:33:35,520
again this Nepenthes lowii doesn't eat the shrew. It just

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01:33:36,159 --> 01:33:39,600
gets the nitrogen from the feces once the shrew takes

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01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:41,439
a shit, you know, because these these little guys they

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01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:44,359
shit a lot. If you've ever noticed rodents, and they

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01:33:44,359 --> 01:33:48,199
shit a lot. But this the lid doesn't, it doesn't.

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It's not laid flat. It's upright so it basically this

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01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,520
hybrid that he created still lures the rodents in, but

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then they end up falling into these giant pitchers. And

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he shows Oh, this nepenthes digesting how efficiently it digests

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01:34:06,039 --> 01:34:08,399
the rodent is mind blowing. I mean it's there's only

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01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:10,920
like a few bones left. It's like a mealy soup.

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01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:12,640
It's fucking well. Here, we'll watch it right now.

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Speaker 3: This is actually the penthe's truncata by a low eye.

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And here at the nursery for the first time ever,

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I did something that it's really kind of amazing, and

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01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,600
we brought my nephew here, Sam, who just wants to

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01:34:23,199 --> 01:34:27,520
see this. So Loli has a complicated interaction with the

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01:34:27,560 --> 01:34:31,319
tree shrew in Borneo, and it produces this exitit underneath

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01:34:31,359 --> 01:34:34,399
the lid. It's pure lowye, that is, and it draws

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01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,600
in the tree shrews and they eat that exitit, and

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01:34:36,640 --> 01:34:39,000
then they reward the plant by pooping into the picture,

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01:34:39,079 --> 01:34:41,479
which is kind of gross, but that's that's food for plants.

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Speaker 1: For most plants, that's what they need.

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Speaker 3: So when you cross it with truncata, which is one

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01:34:46,079 --> 01:34:48,199
of the biggest of all the nepenthees, you get this

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01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:52,600
kind of crazy monster plant that has an exitit for

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01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,319
drawing in rodents, but it's big enough.

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Speaker 1: To actually eat them.

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Speaker 3: And so here this year, this picture back here actually

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pot all.

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01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:04,439
Speaker 1: On its own a rat or a mouse.

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01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:07,720
Speaker 3: We're not really sure what's inside there, but we saw

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01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,199
hair floating and then that's all sunk to the bottom

1636
01:35:10,640 --> 01:35:13,239
and you can see it's made this explosive growth because

1637
01:35:13,239 --> 01:35:15,640
now it's making all these huge pictures, and this pictures,

1638
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:18,640
you know, they're like surreally big. So what we're gonna

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01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:18,960
do now is.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna cut. And that's what they do. If I

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01:35:21,000 --> 01:35:22,840
if I like, if I every time I get the

1642
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:25,520
mosquitos out of the mosquito trap and I put them

1643
01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:27,680
on a pinguicula, or I got a little in the

1644
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,840
penthes hybrid too. I'm not much in a the penties

1645
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:31,560
because they'd be a pain in the answer to take care.

1646
01:35:31,640 --> 01:35:34,119
But there's one that just sits in water like all

1647
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:37,279
the carnivorous plants under lights in the ac because of

1648
01:35:37,319 --> 01:35:39,239
where I live, it's too fucking hot. And every time

1649
01:35:39,319 --> 01:35:42,199
I dump mosquitos in there, you get bursts and new growth.

1650
01:35:42,319 --> 01:35:44,680
And same thing with the pings. You feed them nitrogen

1651
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,600
you get burst of new growth. It's pretty cool to see.

1652
01:35:48,239 --> 01:35:50,680
Speaker 3: Put this off because it's digested all the soft parts,

1653
01:35:50,720 --> 01:35:52,399
we think, and gotten a lot of benefit from it.

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01:35:52,760 --> 01:35:54,520
Speaker 1: Otherwise we leave it on there. We're gonna cut it

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01:35:56,039 --> 01:35:59,840
and then we're gonna go over here, jump it into

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01:35:59,880 --> 01:36:01,119
the soil sift here.

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01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:03,920
Speaker 3: To see what's actually inside.

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01:36:05,119 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: Let's do that right here, right, he's got a sifter.

1659
01:36:07,079 --> 01:36:09,800
He's got a soil shifter. He's pouring out the water. Oh,

1660
01:36:11,159 --> 01:36:14,960
it looks like puke, but there's no large particles in there.

1661
01:36:15,039 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 3: You know it's weird is that it actually doesn't smell.

1662
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,800
It's grossy shack concoction looks there's really no smell.

1663
01:36:20,119 --> 01:36:21,319
Speaker 1: It looks like bean puke.

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01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 3: There's not smelling off because the penthes are actually properly digesting.

1665
01:36:27,079 --> 01:36:29,039
So there's acids and enzymes in there. But then there's

1666
01:36:29,039 --> 01:36:33,079
also antibiotics and anti fosls that keep it from rotting.

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01:36:33,399 --> 01:36:37,600
And you can see almost everything is gone. The bones

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01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:40,039
are gone. There's a little foot.

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01:36:40,199 --> 01:36:42,079
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is bizarre.

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01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:44,000
Speaker 3: There's a little foot that's left.

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01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:45,560
Speaker 1: Disgusting.

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01:36:45,720 --> 01:36:50,119
Speaker 3: There's a little segment of vertebrae and the teeth are left.

1673
01:36:50,159 --> 01:36:51,600
But I think if we left it in there, it

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01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:55,199
would have digested all the bones and everything, so plants,

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01:36:55,239 --> 01:36:56,439
the vertebrates, mammals.

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01:36:56,520 --> 01:36:59,359
Speaker 1: Even that's fucking fast. You know, that thing would have

1677
01:37:00,079 --> 01:37:03,159
wonderful applications. Is a rat trap in a city if

1678
01:37:03,159 --> 01:37:06,640
you could find a way to you know, if you

1679
01:37:06,680 --> 01:37:09,079
could find a way to provide the conditions it needs

1680
01:37:10,199 --> 01:37:13,079
in any you know, large American city where you could

1681
01:37:13,319 --> 01:37:18,319
you know, create a moderate and mild enough climate for it,

1682
01:37:19,000 --> 01:37:21,800
but still have it be outside. I mean, the applications

1683
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:25,479
are endless. But uh, I wonder could a Norway rat

1684
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:27,800
shoo its way? Maybe maybe you gotta get it. But

1685
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,359
this looked like a big fucking rat in there. I

1686
01:37:29,399 --> 01:37:33,079
don't know. It's pretty amazing though. He basically the guy

1687
01:37:33,159 --> 01:37:37,800
basically hybridized a living rat trap. All right, that's hour

1688
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:40,960
and forty minutes. This has gone on far too long. Anyway,

1689
01:37:41,479 --> 01:37:43,279
I'll try to get another one of these out next week.

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01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:48,479
I'll be fucking around gallivanting throughout New Mexico possibly southern

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01:37:48,520 --> 01:37:51,920
Colorado for the next week, then headed back to Texas

1692
01:37:52,079 --> 01:37:55,520
for a brief spell doing some stuff at Thorn Scrub,

1693
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,800
and then heading up to Chicago and Minnesota for September.

1694
01:38:00,079 --> 01:38:03,479
So if you're in those areas and know something interesting

1695
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:05,760
going on, get at me Crimepace. A body doesn't it

1696
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,720
Gmail And yeah, I guess that's if you want to

1697
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:12,600
order thorn Scrub shirts. We still got a bunch. Email

1698
01:38:12,640 --> 01:38:15,319
me about that too. Stickers are twenty bucks for nine

1699
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,800
and uh, you know I did to draw on the

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01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:22,159
envelopes depending on how much time I have, so I'll

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01:38:22,199 --> 01:38:23,840
give you a nice little doodle or something too. But

1702
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:28,079
other than that, shout out to everybody who arranged the

1703
01:38:28,119 --> 01:38:32,560
New Mexico Mycological Society Fest this year. It was fun

1704
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:36,119
and it was uh, it was a good time, so

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01:38:37,159 --> 01:38:41,640
fucking New Mexico, the Sacramento Mountains. Uh yeah, all right,

1706
01:38:41,680 --> 01:38:43,439
Well thanks for listening, have a grocery day, go fuck

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01:38:43,439 --> 01:38:43,880
yourself by