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the WBC Cruiserweight Champion yet again. A weekend that has

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seen Diego Pacheco win, but it wasn't easy, including he

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got knocked down in his main event on his own.

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We're ready to recap both of those fight cards. We

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got lots of fight news and much more. It is

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the Fight Freaks Unit Recap podcast. I am the somewhat

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competent host, TJ.

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Speaker 2: Reeves.

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Speaker 1: Happy Holidays to everybody, Hanika Underway, Christmas coming. Fest of

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Us for the rest of us because Rayfield and I

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are big Seinfeld fans.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, aren't you a Seinfeld guy?

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Speaker 1: Through what about k Kwonza could probably count and there's

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probably seven other ones. But fest of Us for the

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rest of us and the tests of strength, the feats

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of strength, the airing of the grievances, all that goes

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off with that, which is like a regular basis on

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this podcast, the airing of the grievances for fest of Us.

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Speaker 2: Good to have you with us, however you have found us.

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Speaker 1: I have to say this, when we left this podcast,

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I said, you would know how my weekend was going.

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My Thursday night football with the Atlanta Falcons, So Raphel,

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you know that that was a bag over the head,

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kicking the crotch Thursday night, figuratively for the Buccaneer fans,

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the Buccaneer broadcasters, everybody involved. But now I'm a little

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cheered up as we come this way on Sunday night.

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That's because in my NFL world, which I'm paying attention to,

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the New Orleans Saints did the Bucks a favor.

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Bucks playing the Panthers twice in the last three weeks.

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Speaker 3: Heja.

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Speaker 4: Here's the only thing that matters for you New York

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Football Giants have retained their hold on the number one

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overall time. That's right, obrolably miserable loss.

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Speaker 1: How do you continue to win by losing? The Giants

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miserable season. But I'm just saying the two words playoff

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check are still in play for the host, and I'm

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Speaker 2: For down the road. That's down the road, So I'm

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Speaker 1: Rayfield has already got Hanikah in progress with young Raypheel.

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I gotta go Christmas shopping with the twins by the way, too,

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which that makes that should probably be a podcast in

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and of itself. So happy Holidays everybody, and we are

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going to be here throughout this week too. Wit let

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Speaker 1: It's back saying anything can happen as we're about to

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start first with the Cruiserweight world title win for Noel

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mcaylean in a fight that had fouls, that had some

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craziness at the end of the eighth round that eventually

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saw mchaylean wear down. I believe Badu jack and he

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won the fight convincingly in the championship rounds to win

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the unanimous decision and he regains the WBC Cruise aweight title.

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Speaker 4: In fact, two of the three judges scored at one

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sixteen to one ten, the third judge score at one

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fifteen to one eleven. As we've talked about probably a

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thousand times on the show, the range of acceptable scores

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that those two seemed to be the right scores. I

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had at one sixteen to one ten. If you tell

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me you had it one point closer, no argument for me.

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when they had their first fight in May. So in

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that fight you had, that was the card that was

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the undercard of Canilla against Skull and read Saudi Arabia.

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decision in favor of Ba du Jack, and the way

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that he won it was because he won the final

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two rounds on the scorecards to get him the margin

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of his victory. He came on strong the last couple

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of rounds. Mccallon's point of view was, Listen, you know,

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to be quite honest. And but dude, Jack is now,

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you know that many months more older. He's forty two

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fighting and fight out like a Hopkins was, or an

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Archie more for that matter. In any event, so the

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scores I thought were perfectly fine. McKellan though, Listen, he

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the guy that was probably doing most to make the fight.

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mckellian that was the one that came out of the clinch,

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firing first, taking advantage of things back in. But dude,

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Jack up and so from that perspective, he just had

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a little better defense. And the reality is bidu. Jack

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also got tired of the backside of the fight, and

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we didn't know this at the time. He didn't talk

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about in this post fight interview. On Sunday. I saw

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his post on his social media, which you know, we

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follow each other on social media. Had posted a picture

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of himself in the hospital, said that in the middle

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of rounds you know exactly what round that he had

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suffered a fractured cheekbone, so he was fighting through that. So,

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you know, he is a warrior type fighter. We've seen

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him in some tough fights with that horrendous cut. We

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saw him in fights. We've seen him, you know, in

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just massive barn burner brawls with James de Gale. So

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get up there if times to get tough. So that

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that you know, time waits for nobody, and when you're

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forty two and you're fighting a fairly well preserved guy

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craziness you mentioned, I mean, there was a lot of grapplings,

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in the eighth or in the seventh round, I should

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the head and that was that was the referee, Jerry Cantu,

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who had his hands fall all night long with a

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lot of the rough stuff. He made the right decision

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point deducted. So I had that round of ten to

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eight round, you know, because he got the point deducted,

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the fight and swept. If you look at the cards,

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the way he got to the victory was he won

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rounds eight through twelve on all three score cards and

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that put him a head in the fight. But in

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that eighth round he did damage, but due Jack also

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got penalized for hitting after the break with there was

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a right hand that came in, so the two point

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deductions sort offset each other. But it was the damage

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that Nick Kelly was doing. He was hurting him a

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the one of the Holy fell Ritic Bow fights where

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to jump over. It was like in rock Yes to

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jump over into the ring and pull them apart. This

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after the bell. Their corners had to get in the ring.

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Can two had to get in the ring and break

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them up. And I'll tell you that they were talking

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about the on the pay per view. This for Jerry

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his last fight as a referee. He's going to still

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continue to work as a judge with the California Commission.

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a really hard fight to keep controlling lost?

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two guys are you know, they're they're pretty big guys,

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were fighting for position throughout the fight. So it got

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a little messy. There was some tension there. But in

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the end, look, Noah mckellion backed up what he said,

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you know, and made the point. Like I said before,

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I took the fight on short notice before weird time

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wasn't really as good as he could have been, and

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in this fight he was much more prepared. And you know,

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bid dude Jack, good sportsman, showed class, you know, didn't

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didn't complain, didn't take it, didn't mention his injury you

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know during the interviews and just said, you know, he's

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a better man tonight. And to me, now it's a

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matter of a couple of things. Number One, at age

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forty two, what does bed dude Jack do. He's been

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a champion at a light heavyweight, cruiser weight, also at

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super middleweight. At forty two, does he retire? He first

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sounded like that in his post fight interview, but you

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never know, so we'll see what he ends up doing.

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In as far as mckellian, he's sitting in the cat

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birds see right now, because like not five minutes when

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the fight was over and they had announced the decision.

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I think I got the press release before they went

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off the air from the broadcast, and that was the

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folks at Tasman Fighters, which are the co promoters in Australia. Giobatia.

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Now we all have talked about this several times, how

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badly he wants a unification. He thought he might get

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an opportunity to fight zero zero opted for a higher

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profile fight, even if not a bigger legacy fight, a

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bigger money fight, probably also to fight David Benevidio. So

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he's gonna go do that, which kind of left Opataia.

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If you want to unify and you've got one belt

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and Ramirez has two of the belts, there's only one

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other belt you can go for, and that's the WBC

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belt and that's now mckellon's title. So immediately after the fight,

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there was you know, ample quotes from from ji Opataia

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and from his co promoter Mick Francis from Tasman Fighters

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about why let's make this fight happen.

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Speaker 1: Of course, well, you love me for a lot of reasons,

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including my humor. Don't you believe they had two versions

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of that press release that they had the blank whoever

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the name was, just the name and punch sind That's absolutely.

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Speaker 2: What they did.

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Speaker 4: Definitely, there's no doubt about it, because ji Opataia is

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the kind of guy where he didn't give a shit

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off but due Jack want or McKellan when he wants

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to win that belt, whoever's the one holding it h

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and you know he had just fought as we've discussed

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him the last couple weeks, because.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait to fight fill in the blank on

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a big time show.

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Speaker 2: And I would be willing to fight fill.

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fill in the blank exactly so.

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Speaker 4: And he's he had been in the new is making

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the case for unification coming off of the fight from

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two weeks ago when he knocked out Sinkara in a

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spectacular knockout. So hopefully he gets to fight, because I

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don't believe that now that this rematch is over, I

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don't think there is a due mandatory in the WBC.

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Speaker 3: He'll have to.

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Speaker 4: You know, they'll be one eventually, but he should have

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time enough to do a unification if they're serious about

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doing it. Now, the fly in that ointment is is

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mckellan's promoter is Don King and going strong at ninety

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three and ninety four is still a pain in the

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ass and do business with when it comes to making

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a big fight or not so big fight, because the

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you know, the the the making of the deal is

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so onerous. But sometimes people just throw up their hands

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and be like, forget about it. So but if King

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is in reality and they're serious show about making the fight,

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which I believe they are, there's no reason in the

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world why this fight should not happen.

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Speaker 1: All right, So stay tuned. But mchalean gets his hand raised,

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gets the victory. So that was in southern California. So

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slide up the I five to Stockton, California a few hours.

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Speaker 3: How could you with the directions You just go a.

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Speaker 1: Little geographical here on the fight preach unit recap or something.

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I just know, I just know that you can drive

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the I five all the way up and down the

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West coast, all right, So slide up to Stockton and

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diego Pacheco.

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Speaker 2: Now you did say now.

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Speaker 1: First of all one of us said on the podcast

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bad Jack's forty two years old, and you got to

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wonder if he starts showing his age, And that happened,

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and so I will take credit for that.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that was anything shocking.

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Speaker 2: I think we I think if we replay the pod.

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Speaker 1: You kind of disputed that with me, if we want

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to go back and re replay the pod.

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Speaker 2: But nonetheless, well.

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Speaker 4: Let me put you like this, It's not about so

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much the age. The fact that McKellan was the winner

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the fight does not surprise me in the right.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 1: But I will prop you because you said to us

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when I said, I don't really know a whole lot

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if anything about Kevin Leley Sajoe, and you said, real dude, thick,

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can fight, can punch. And oh, by the way, he

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dropped Diego Pacheco as he hid the way through this fight,

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and we began to find out some things about the

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rising prospect at super middleweight.

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Speaker 2: He guts out the decision. When what are your thoughts?

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Speaker 4: I mean, there's two ways to look at it. If

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you want to take the glasses half full approach to it,

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you could be like Eddie Hern and say Listen, this

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is a guy that on a night where it wasn't

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his best, he still came through against a guy that

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not a lot of people wanted to fight, who's dangerous

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because he's unknown, but he's strong as a bull, and

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he comes forward and he's there to fight and he's

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not looking to run around, and you know, you got

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to be on your game or you're going to be

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in some trouble. He's very physical. He used his head,

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you know, especially when he got inside on him, you know,

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and it was kind of one of those Mutton Jeff

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type of fights. And that's going to be the way

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it is when you're dealing with a super middleweight. In

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Sajo was five foot eight and a and a super

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middleweight like Pachecko was six foot four. That there's obviously

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a stark difference, you know. You could, you know when

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you see the photographs that look from like the press

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conferences and the face off and the way, and he

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knew there's gonna be a big size difference. So Sajo's

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goal was to just get into the chest and just

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stick his head right on top of Pachecko and swing

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away on the inside. And Pacheco, you know, can do that,

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but he'd prefer a guy more his thighs. He would

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have preferred, i think, against Sajo, to fight a little bit

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more on the outside, and Sajo wasn't having any of that.

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So the glass half full aspect is okay. We have

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never seen him in that kind of distress or that

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type of crisis. He got dropped, there was a legit knockdown,

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and he got up and he came back strong, and

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then in the last couple of rounds of the fight

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he really started to bring it on. Round eleven, he

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had him hurt, almost knocked him down and knocked them

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out possibly, and he came through the other as Eddie said,

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came through the other side and win the fight, which

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is the bottom line, And it was, you know, the

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type of performance you hope you don't see. What if

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you do, you see your guy prove that he can

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deal with, you know, some type of a difficult situation.

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So he wins the fight one seventeen to one ten,

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one sixteen to one eleven, and a little too close

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for my taste, one fifteen to one twelve. And so

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he moves on and we'll see what he does.

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Speaker 3: Sajo.

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Speaker 4: I feel like even in the loss, he raises his

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stock because he was here too before unknown other than

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by the dorks like myself. And now I think people

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see this is a guy that can actually fight and

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handle himself. He may not be a world champion, but

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he certainly could, you know, compete I think with pretty

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much anybody, you know, save maybe like the you know,

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the Terrence Crawford's or the Canelos.

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Speaker 3: People like that.

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Speaker 4: So if there's never a good loss, let's say this

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was a good loss for Sajo and for Pacheco. You know,

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he came through the crisis. Now on the negative side,

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he didn't look good because even besides a knockdown, he

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didn't look very good. He looked tentative, he looked flat footed,

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he kind of slow, He didn't he just he didn't

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have you know, the spring and the step. It'sn't seem

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to me. And this is really tg like the third

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fight in a row where this has been the case.

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Now he's gotten wins in those other fights, obviously because

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he's kept his undefeated record, but he didn't look exactly

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spectacular going the route with Trevor McCombe back in July,

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and he looked even worse going the route against you know,

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Steven Nelson in January. So he got in three fights

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this year. He won three decisions against good opponents, but

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not great opponents. And so maybe maybe he's been exposed

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a little bit perhaps, or maybe he's reached a certain

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plateau and he hasn't yet gotten to the next level.

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We'll see if he can get to the next level.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 4: After the fight, Ady Hearn was saying, you know what

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we've done our apprenticeship. This young man is twenty five

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and zero, and now it's time for a big fight.

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And they were asking for Haimi Mungia, which was you know,

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would be certainly a fun, exciting fight. You have a

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Mexican national against a Mexican American. You know, they would

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certainly fill up a you know, a good arena in

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Los Angeles. Which is the point that Eddie was making

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a fight that Diego Pacheco said he wanted. I don't

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think Mongia said for anything at the moment. So we'll

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see if they can actually make it. But you know,

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he made the point, if we can't, there's other guys,

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you know they were talking about, like Ams of Shiraz.

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Now Kerkiyashikha is out there saying we'd like to make

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Pacheco Sharaz in February. You know, convenient to mention that,

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of course, when he's coming off one of his worst performances.

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But right, I mean, if you can't get them on

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Gia fight Sharaz would certainly be an acceptable kind of fight.

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Do that fight on one of the riad season cards.

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But you know the other thing that Eddie said, and

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I totally agree with this because I think about these things.

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When you see a guy that's got a lot of

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hype and he has a rough night and nobody has

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previously really wanted to fight the guy, and you see

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him get dropped out, get dropped and maybe look.

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Speaker 3: A little vulnerable.

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Speaker 4: Suddenly the other top guys are like, yeah, you know what,

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maybe I'll take I'll take the guy. And so in

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some ways, having a less than stellar performance, and even

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with the knockdout, once it's over with, it may turn

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out to be a good thing, be because other people

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will then decide, hey, you're.

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Speaker 1: Risk indirectly helped the fight to be made, and so

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all right, so we'll see that that would be quick

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ninety days to turn around. And Shiraz obviously is off

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of destroying Edgar Berlanga, and so stay tuned if that

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can be made or what can happen with that. All right, now,

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I'm gonna say this, This will be my take. I

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think Joe Cordina had the performance of the weekend just

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because he literally came eight time zones away to the

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West coast of the United States from where he is

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in the UK and put it on Gabriel Flores in

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the co feature fight, winning decisively for the WBO's lightweight eliminator.

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That's me saying that could Cordina was impressive in this,

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and very impressive for the circumstances of doing this in

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the other guy's hometown.

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Speaker 4: I mean I didn't really rate Flores that highly in

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the first place. I mean, he got a lot of

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hype when he was and the reason he got it

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of hype because when he came into the professional ranks

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with Top Rank, he had become he was like he

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was signed when he was like sixteen or seventeen years

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old and was the youngest fighter at that time to

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ever have signed with Top Rank, you know, in like

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fifty years or whatever it had been that they'd been

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in business. And he got off to a good start,

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and then you know, he took a tough loss Luis

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Alberta Lopez, and you know, there was another fight where

475
00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,640
maybe he should have been stopped and there was like

476
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:24,200
they were crying after the fight. It was kind of

477
00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,359
a mess, and he kind of got a lot of

478
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:28,759
negativity surrounding about that. You know, him and the dad

479
00:21:29,079 --> 00:21:31,079
they had. They had also told the story about how

480
00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:33,480
his mother had been killed, so that you know, that

481
00:21:33,599 --> 00:21:35,359
humanized him and his family. So he'd got a lot

482
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,799
of hype because of that. But when it comes to

483
00:21:37,799 --> 00:21:39,960
the actual can he fight, can he be a world champion?

484
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,759
I kind of had my doubt's nice kid, nice dad, whatever,

485
00:21:42,759 --> 00:21:46,359
they're good people and all, but you know, I'm skeptically

486
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,720
ever gets to that point. So for Cordina, I feel

487
00:21:48,759 --> 00:21:52,039
like it was a calculated risk, you know, and just

488
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,319
this is thing I'd like to clarify also, like and

489
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,920
I actually it's funny everybody was referring to this as

490
00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,319
a WBO lightweight title illuminator. I got a WhatsApp from

491
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,240
Gustavo Oliveri, who was the president of the WBO okay,

492
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,920
and you know, it was not an official WBO eliminator,

493
00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:08,559
And I said Okay, that's fine. Maybe it's not official,

494
00:22:08,759 --> 00:22:10,839
but certainly it's unofficial because it was the number one

495
00:22:10,839 --> 00:22:13,039
guy in your ratings against the number two guy in

496
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:16,279
your ratings fighting for your top regional belt. It would

497
00:22:16,319 --> 00:22:18,319
seem to suffice to say, if the one guy beats

498
00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,480
the two guy, or the two guy beats the one guy,

499
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:21,480
the winners.

500
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,559
Speaker 1: Organizations, these organizations, good god.

501
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,079
Speaker 4: In any event, Cordeina did look did look pretty good.

502
00:22:27,279 --> 00:22:29,759
You know, he's new to the lightweight division, relatively speaking,

503
00:22:30,039 --> 00:22:33,240
after being stopped in his losing his title at one

504
00:22:33,279 --> 00:22:35,720
thirty by Casachi. That could have been a scenario where

505
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,599
the weight was becoming too much of a burden for

506
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,400
him to make. So, yeah, good friend, he came all

507
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:42,480
the way over here. Yeah, and he looked good. He

508
00:22:42,519 --> 00:22:42,960
got to win.

509
00:22:43,599 --> 00:22:46,079
Speaker 1: And I think, and sometimes you know, this is easy

510
00:22:46,079 --> 00:22:47,799
for us to say, we're in the armchair, we don't

511
00:22:47,799 --> 00:22:50,200
take the punches or whatever. I think we can pretty

512
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,480
well conclude. I'll say it's stronger than you did. Gabriel

513
00:22:52,519 --> 00:22:54,839
Flores is never going to be a world champion. He's

514
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,519
never going to be able to step up it, or

515
00:22:57,559 --> 00:22:59,559
he would have done it already. And this was another

516
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:01,240
example where he had a chance to do it in

517
00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:03,839
his own home setting, and he got dominated in this fight.

518
00:23:04,079 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm not disagreeing. I mean, no, Listen, I

519
00:23:07,079 --> 00:23:10,039
loth to say the word never, because there's plenty of

520
00:23:10,079 --> 00:23:11,799
guys that can cherry pick a belt here and there.

521
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:14,079
But to think that he'll be at the elite level,

522
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:15,240
I guess the way I look at it.

523
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,319
Speaker 1: But the cheery picked the belt, he's got to fight

524
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,400
another top contending fighter like Cordina, And where has he

525
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:22,839
against a top contending fighter.

526
00:23:22,839 --> 00:23:23,599
Speaker 2: They didn't get it done.

527
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,920
Speaker 4: I just I never say never. What I would say

528
00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,480
is maybe maybe he would win a belt, but I

529
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,000
don't think people will ever consider him to be an

530
00:23:31,079 --> 00:23:32,799
elite fighter in whatever weight class.

531
00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,119
Speaker 1: Eason, My line always is, be careful with the words

532
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,359
never exactly. Always the three words I love you. Be

533
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,119
careful with those words as well. Those could always get

534
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:42,240
I'm just here to make you laugh.

535
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: All right.

536
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: So Cordina gets that win and we'll see what's next

537
00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,279
for him. Now give me the rest.

538
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 4: So if he gets just to just to be clear,

539
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,240
if he does get the title fight, I don't think

540
00:23:50,279 --> 00:23:53,759
the mandatory is quite due. Theoretically he would be in

541
00:23:53,799 --> 00:23:56,759
position to fight Abdulla Mason, which would be a pretty

542
00:23:56,759 --> 00:23:59,000
intriguing fight. I mean, I'm not sure what top ranks

543
00:23:59,279 --> 00:24:01,799
plans are for Mason at the moment. You know, he's

544
00:24:01,799 --> 00:24:04,079
obviously a very talented fighter. He's coming off a big win,

545
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,359
but where he got the belt, Uh, they'll probably be

546
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,519
slightly judicious in the first defense. Maybe take him home

547
00:24:12,279 --> 00:24:14,680
to Cleveland where I wouldn't anticipate that he's in with

548
00:24:14,759 --> 00:24:17,920
a super top guy, but he's going to be in

549
00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,119
position where maybe he does fight Cordeina, you know, a

550
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,920
couple of fights from now, and that would that would

551
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,799
be an interesting fight.

552
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:24,559
Speaker 3: I could see that.

553
00:24:24,519 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: Being one with another Englishman in Sam Noakes on that

554
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:32,960
on that undercard in in Riot all the.

555
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: Rest of the card.

556
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:35,480
Speaker 4: I think the guy really that kind of stole the

557
00:24:35,519 --> 00:24:38,880
show was Ernesto Tito Mercado. He was the next fight

558
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,440
down the show prior to the Cordeina fight. He's a

559
00:24:41,519 --> 00:24:44,240
junior Walter Waite. He's now eighteen and oh with seventy knockouts.

560
00:24:44,279 --> 00:24:45,440
For the last couple of years, I've had him on

561
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,920
my top prospect list. He's only twenty four years old.

562
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,799
He comes from Mona California, the hometown of won Hall

563
00:24:50,839 --> 00:24:55,400
of Famer Sugar Shane Moseley, and we've seen his talent.

564
00:24:55,559 --> 00:24:57,720
He was off for a little while because of an injury.

565
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,519
He had signed with Mattroom and there trying to bring

566
00:25:00,559 --> 00:25:02,920
him along and they mad. They did the exact This

567
00:25:03,079 --> 00:25:06,359
was the exact perfect fight where you've seen him look good,

568
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,680
but against nobody in particular, and not to say Antonio Moran.

569
00:25:09,799 --> 00:25:12,680
His opponent was some superstar opponent, but he is the

570
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,240
epitome of a gatekeeper. He'll beat your ass if you're

571
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,680
not ready, but he can also be you know, he'll

572
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,759
lose to the top guys. And so it's time to

573
00:25:20,759 --> 00:25:22,720
find out where does Mercado fit and is he a

574
00:25:22,759 --> 00:25:25,640
guy that is a pretender and a guy like Moran

575
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,559
can expose him and beat him, or is he going

576
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,440
to look good and do what the other top guys

577
00:25:29,799 --> 00:25:33,720
have done to Antonio Moran. Antonio Moran has been He's

578
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:35,519
got eight losses now after it's the loss that he

579
00:25:35,559 --> 00:25:39,279
took against Mercado, but he'd only been stopped previously twice before,

580
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,000
once by Devin Haney. And I've said this before. I

581
00:25:42,079 --> 00:25:43,799
was sitting five feet in the ring that night when

582
00:25:43,799 --> 00:25:45,839
he went splatter in front of my face. He got

583
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,680
absolutely destroyed by Hani that night. He also got knocked

584
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,799
out not that long ago by Andy Cruz, the Cuban

585
00:25:51,799 --> 00:25:53,960
Olympic gold medal winner who was on his way to

586
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,880
fighting for a world title against Ray Maretaya, you know,

587
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,799
in the coming weeks, And the question was could Mercado

588
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,960
replicate or something similar of that type of domination if

589
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,240
you really think Mercado was the goods like a lot

590
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,359
of people do. And guess what, he showed that he

591
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,839
could do that because he scored a clear knockdout in

592
00:26:11,839 --> 00:26:15,559
the first round. He dominated the fight, and he dropped

593
00:26:15,599 --> 00:26:17,640
him twice more in the sixth round and got the knockout.

594
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:21,039
So he did what those other guys had done, which

595
00:26:21,079 --> 00:26:24,359
was to stop him, and he looked really good doing it.

596
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,799
I mean, Mercado, based on that performance, I don't think

597
00:26:27,839 --> 00:26:29,960
he's quite ready for fighting for the world title or

598
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,640
anything like that. But you can absolutely step him up

599
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,880
against a real guy at one point forty and it'll

600
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,279
be very fun to watch. He's young, he's fast, he's

601
00:26:37,319 --> 00:26:40,680
got some charisma to him. He's got that swagger like

602
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,599
he knows he's never been beaten. He's fresh, he's hungry,

603
00:26:44,039 --> 00:26:46,279
and he's fun to watch. I mean to me that

604
00:26:46,319 --> 00:26:48,680
he checks every box that you as a boxing fan.

605
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,039
You want to see guys who are committed to what

606
00:26:51,079 --> 00:26:52,759
they want to do. You want to see guys who

607
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:54,720
are out there to hurt you and knock you out.

608
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,799
You want to see guys who have skills and speed

609
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:02,240
and are responsible defensively, can move, can punch with both hands.

610
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,160
You know he pretty much does all that.

611
00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:05,319
Speaker 3: I think.

612
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,079
Speaker 4: Look, I think it looked really, really good and Marianne

613
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:11,000
again is no joke if you're not ready, and so

614
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:13,200
he took care of business and looked great doing it.

615
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:15,440
So for me, I know you thought Cordina looked great.

616
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,599
If I had to give like my MVP of the night,

617
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,480
I'm giving that to Tito Morraato.

618
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:25,839
Speaker 1: On car and also the women's WBC interim title light.

619
00:27:26,319 --> 00:27:29,559
Is Sky Nicholson getting a decision when any other thoughts

620
00:27:29,599 --> 00:27:32,319
on that? I know you poo pooed on her in

621
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:34,079
the preview of nothing Special.

622
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:37,799
Speaker 4: Well, in this she had been a title holder at

623
00:27:37,799 --> 00:27:39,920
featherweight and she lost the belt. She had come down

624
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,559
and wait, this was her second fight since dropping down

625
00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:45,079
to one hundred and twenty two pounds, and she has background.

626
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,640
She was an Olympian for Australia. And they match up

627
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:51,119
with a Yulon Luna from Mexico for this interim title.

628
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,480
I'm not sure why they did that, but whatever, And

629
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:54,839
she went out there and she did what she did.

630
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,279
She boxes a boring fight, she wins a clear decision,

631
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,640
and listen, she seems like a lovely woman. I have

632
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,599
nothing against her, but honestly, and I'm not trying to

633
00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,319
be a dick. I mean, I'm just being real. Life

634
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,559
is too short to keep watching Sky Nicholson fights ten rounds.

635
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,759
Thank god. Her fight's only two minutes apiece at each round. Okay,

636
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,160
I mean, she just doing it entertainment. She's a talented boxer,

637
00:28:17,559 --> 00:28:23,160
but I find nothing dramatic, nothing exciting. It's like, you know,

638
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,880
good luck for her. I hope she goes out there

639
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:26,960
and becomes a Hall of Famer and wins titles and

640
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:28,920
does all the good things. But I don't need to

641
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,319
be watching it. I gotta be honest, all right.

642
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 2: One other fight card.

643
00:28:34,039 --> 00:28:35,839
Speaker 1: We did not mention this because it was going to

644
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,000
practically be going on right as we were releasing the

645
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,480
podcast Friday morning US time Friday midday. That was in

646
00:28:41,559 --> 00:28:46,680
the UAE and Dubai, where Murat Gassiev, the former cruiserweight

647
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:51,680
world champ, scored a booming knockout of the forty four

648
00:28:51,759 --> 00:28:55,599
year old Khu brought poolv an upset win in that

649
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,319
he was the underdog and he was really being dominated

650
00:28:59,319 --> 00:29:01,400
through the first five rowns. But this is why boxing

651
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:02,640
is different, Big Dan.

652
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I don't know if I say he

653
00:29:05,359 --> 00:29:07,799
was being dominated. He was certainly losing the fight on

654
00:29:07,839 --> 00:29:10,240
the cards, but the rounds I felt like were.

655
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,519
Speaker 1: One card was five nothing, one card was four to one.

656
00:29:12,519 --> 00:29:14,400
Two of the three judges thought he was being dominated.

657
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:15,000
But continue on.

658
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 4: No, No, what I'm trying to say is sometimes scorecards

659
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,039
are misleading. Yes, he was losing the rounds, but within

660
00:29:21,079 --> 00:29:24,000
the context of each three minute period of time, he

661
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,079
was competitive in those rounds. So he lost the round,

662
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,359
but it wasn't like he didn't compete and didn't have

663
00:29:29,359 --> 00:29:32,839
some moments, but that instead again, he was down on

664
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:36,359
all three scorecards, five to nothing on one, forty seven

665
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,640
on another, and forty nine to forty six on the third.

666
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,640
And as as you said, Gassi was a former cruiserweight

667
00:29:41,759 --> 00:29:45,160
unified title holder when he met Alexander Usik in twenty

668
00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,200
eighteen for the four belt unification in the final of

669
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,200
the of the tournament that the World Boxing Super Series

670
00:29:53,279 --> 00:29:57,319
he was routed. He lost I believe literally like twelve

671
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,440
rounds and nothing in that fight. You know, he got complete.

672
00:30:00,799 --> 00:30:03,000
That was a domination, Like he never even came close

673
00:30:03,039 --> 00:30:06,359
to winning around in that fight. He had kind of

674
00:30:06,359 --> 00:30:07,920
been off the map for a while. He moved up

675
00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,759
to heavyweight, hadn't really done anything in particular, hadn't beaten anybody,

676
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,319
had lost a decision to Auto Whalen, which is never

677
00:30:15,359 --> 00:30:18,559
a good sign for your career prospects. Other than that,

678
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:20,519
he had, you know, won like a bunch of other fights,

679
00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,759
but again not against anybody that you would know, Like

680
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:26,039
whaling was the one guy that he lost to that

681
00:30:26,119 --> 00:30:28,440
people have heard of because he had fought a tough

682
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,079
fight with Tyson Fury and that was a split decision,

683
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:34,839
so it was competitive. I guess he gets this opportunity

684
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,079
to remember the pool at people who had won this belt,

685
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:41,319
this secondary title belt, and they had gone through this

686
00:30:41,359 --> 00:30:43,920
whole process with the BBA. There was an arbitration, there

687
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,319
was all kinds of lawsuits and litigation over this mandatory

688
00:30:47,319 --> 00:30:49,839
and that mandatory, and they asserted their rights for the optional,

689
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,920
and it was a whole disaster all because they wanted

690
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,519
to fight Mara Gassia, because the people from the IBA,

691
00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:00,079
who operate out of the UAE, were putting up a

692
00:31:00,119 --> 00:31:01,440
lot of money to do the fight on one of

693
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,319
these cards that they do, and this was the main

694
00:31:03,319 --> 00:31:07,799
event of that show. And Gasiev, whatever you say about him,

695
00:31:07,839 --> 00:31:09,759
the dude can fucking crack. I mean, he's was a

696
00:31:09,759 --> 00:31:12,000
tremendous punch or a cruiser weight. It feels like that

697
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,960
that power has carried to some degree into the heavyweight division.

698
00:31:15,319 --> 00:31:18,880
Pulev's two of his three losses prior to the fight

699
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,759
the other day, he got knocked out by Klitchko in

700
00:31:22,839 --> 00:31:24,720
a legit World Championship fight all the way back on

701
00:31:24,759 --> 00:31:26,519
twenty fourteen. I picked it as the knockout of the

702
00:31:26,519 --> 00:31:29,640
ear that year. He got knocked out during COVID when

703
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:31,839
Anthony Joshua fought in front of like a thousand people

704
00:31:32,119 --> 00:31:34,680
at the Wembley Arena that he was the mandatory. Anthony

705
00:31:34,759 --> 00:31:37,039
Joshua stopped him in the ninth round. That was like

706
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:41,319
twenty and twenty I believe or twenty twenty one, and

707
00:31:41,359 --> 00:31:43,720
the only other fight he lost was a split decision

708
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,119
against Derrek Tsa and Pulev. You know, he's forty four

709
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,759
years old, he's in great condition, just doesn't have the chin.

710
00:31:49,839 --> 00:31:52,279
And when Gassiev landed like a picture perfect left hook,

711
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,519
it was almost the exact same punch that Clitchical landed

712
00:31:54,519 --> 00:31:56,559
on him and knocked him out. He just went splatter

713
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,960
all you know, on the canvas. He was out, tried

714
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,680
to get up to his credit, gud to all fours,

715
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:01,440
but he was done for.

716
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,359
Speaker 1: When I say it was boom goes a dynamite left

717
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,240
to the chin and he could not beat the count.

718
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,039
And it was a shocking moment. This is why we

719
00:32:09,079 --> 00:32:11,200
love boxing because again he was in control, he was

720
00:32:11,279 --> 00:32:14,240
winning until he was KOed with one shot.

721
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, and now he has the WBA Regular heavyweight title

722
00:32:19,119 --> 00:32:20,559
and a lot of people will shit on that and

723
00:32:20,839 --> 00:32:22,920
piss on it, which I totally get. But here's the pint.

724
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,400
It's gonna help Mara Gassi make a shitload of money.

725
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,119
And the reason is because he if he follows through

726
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,279
with this, he based on the when they made the

727
00:32:31,319 --> 00:32:34,039
settlement with the WBA to allow Pool Left to go

728
00:32:34,119 --> 00:32:37,279
through with this fight. The edict was okay, fine, among

729
00:32:37,359 --> 00:32:40,680
the various other circumstances that they outline, was the winner

730
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,079
of this fight. Ohe's the next fight, not two fights,

731
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:47,519
not three fights. The next fight is the mandatory against

732
00:32:47,559 --> 00:32:50,200
Moses and Tom. Now he Tom has rated in other

733
00:32:50,279 --> 00:32:53,480
organizations and he has perhaps a roadmap to take him

734
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,599
to another belt. But if he opts to pursue the

735
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,599
WBA avenue, he will be the next opponent for Gassia.

736
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,599
Vergassi will have to vacate or be shipped of the title.

737
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,960
So his reward in quote marks, if you will, for

738
00:33:05,039 --> 00:33:08,319
knocking out Kubra Pula very impressively, I might add, is

739
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:12,640
probably a trip to England to face the much faster,

740
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:19,480
much younger, probably similarly heavy handed puncher, as as the

741
00:33:19,559 --> 00:33:21,759
young twenty year old maybe he'll be twenty one by

742
00:33:21,799 --> 00:33:24,839
then in Moses Etama. But you know what, if you're

743
00:33:24,839 --> 00:33:26,960
gonna fight as a professional fighter and get and get

744
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,640
a loss, I'd rather lose for a whole shiload of

745
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,480
money right to a guy that could go on to

746
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,599
be great than to lose to some you know, Jimoke

747
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,039
for a lot less money, so Gassi of at least

748
00:33:37,039 --> 00:33:39,200
gonna cash in. And you know, if he lands, I

749
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:40,799
don't care if you're if you're who you are, if

750
00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,480
you're Puola, if you're Atama, whoever you are, or if Moroc

751
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:46,160
Gassi of lands, you know, his best shot man, he

752
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,079
can do some damage. So we'll see if they actually

753
00:33:49,079 --> 00:33:51,440
get that fight made, unless the Tama goes another direction,

754
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:54,960
because he also could perhaps pursue a you know, a

755
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,079
mandatory with one of the other organizations. But it feels

756
00:33:58,079 --> 00:33:59,920
like that's a fight that they could make because Gassi

757
00:34:00,079 --> 00:34:02,960
of you know, there's not like some natural fighter out

758
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,200
there that can bring him a ton of money. And

759
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,200
if you go and fight a Tom in England's.

760
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 2: That's a seven figure pay day in England.

761
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 1: Absolute gotta be so stay tuned on whether that can happen.

762
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,880
And also, I don't know if the fight fans have

763
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,400
heard this, but Nico Ali Walsh is the grandson of

764
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,199
Muhammad Ali.

765
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 3: Is that right?

766
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: I like to point you and I like to point

767
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,360
that out whenever we bring him up, because it's not

768
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,800
said enough, it's not promoted enough.

769
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,559
Speaker 2: He was on this card and he was also victorious.

770
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 4: This was a you know the reason I put that

771
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,400
on the rundown, not just because it's Niko Ali wash

772
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,239
the grand son of Mhammad all that kids, you hadn't heard.

773
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,880
It was a really good fight. It was a sixth rounder.

774
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,960
He's a middleweight and he fought a very entertaining fight,

775
00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:42,840
and you know, he got a you got you got

776
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,400
to win a decision victory was he was competitive, but

777
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,199
I felt like he was clearly the winner of the fight.

778
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:50,280
And this was a fun fight. I can't think the

779
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,639
fighter he fought was a fighter from originally from Uganda

780
00:34:54,039 --> 00:34:56,800
who was based in Dubai, whose first name is Jeremiah

781
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,480
and the last name is So Where to sa.

782
00:35:00,639 --> 00:35:02,719
Speaker 2: So, where to Sata tomato tomato?

783
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,119
Speaker 4: But yeah, exactly so he won the fight. Nick Nico

784
00:35:06,199 --> 00:35:08,480
Ali watched fifty nine to fifty five and fifty eight

785
00:35:08,559 --> 00:35:10,679
fifty six twice and it was a it was a

786
00:35:11,039 --> 00:35:13,360
like I said, a very fun fight to watch. And

787
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:17,679
he's staying active. He's coming off the draw that he

788
00:35:17,679 --> 00:35:19,679
had just had like about I don't know, maybe six

789
00:35:19,679 --> 00:35:21,800
weeks or eight weeks ago where he fought on the

790
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,039
on the card that took place that celebrated the anniversary

791
00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:27,840
of the fiftieth anniversary of the Thriller in Manila, where

792
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,599
he got a draw on that card that was headlined

793
00:35:30,639 --> 00:35:33,679
by the strawweight World Championship fight involving Melvin Jerusalem.

794
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,679
Speaker 3: So here you have.

795
00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:37,639
Speaker 4: You know, the one thing we can say that he's

796
00:35:37,639 --> 00:35:40,119
similar to his grandfather in terms of boxing, maybe not

797
00:35:40,159 --> 00:35:42,840
so much in his ability for his skills, but that

798
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,719
he's going around the world and he's fighting wherever, because

799
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,400
he's now fought plenty times in America. He fought this

800
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,199
fight here in the UAE, he had that fight I

801
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:52,760
just mentioned, in the Philippines, he had fought I think

802
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,360
two fights. He's had in various places in Africa. So

803
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:57,719
he's going all over the place. And you know, I

804
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,719
give the kid credit. He's in a tough spot that

805
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,199
this spotlight's constantly on him. He may not develop or

806
00:36:02,199 --> 00:36:05,159
probably won't develop into you know, forget about you know,

807
00:36:05,159 --> 00:36:08,000
his grandfather, but even a top contender for that matter.

808
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,960
But he's put in the work. And you know what,

809
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,400
the kid made a hell of a fight against He.

810
00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,039
Speaker 2: Got to win, and he got to win.

811
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:18,519
Speaker 1: On the weekend, all right, some fight news, Okay, So

812
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:23,679
Anthony Joshua, Jake Paul Fight Week this week, but not

813
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,800
to be outdone, Turkey al Chic has released it on

814
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,199
social media and has been talking.

815
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,719
Speaker 2: About this that hey, we have a deal.

816
00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 1: The not retired Tyson Fury will apparently fight Anthony Joshua

817
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,239
in twenty twenty six, but we have some variables.

818
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,119
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Okay, So this is the thing. As you mentioned,

819
00:36:42,159 --> 00:36:44,760
we got the Friday fight between Joshua and Jake Paul.

820
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,880
As we sit here today, you and me and anybody

821
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,639
else that has thought about this fight probably thinks that

822
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,840
Anthony Joshua rolls through j Paul. What's the proverbial life

823
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:57,400
through hot butter, I guess mm hmm or hot life

824
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,079
through butter in any event, So once that's taken care of,

825
00:37:00,599 --> 00:37:03,280
then we'll hear from everybody I assume that's involved. Eddie

826
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,760
Hearn alluded to that in some interviews. I saw him

827
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,199
do that. He did up in Stockton when he was

828
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,119
talking about his car, but he was obviously asked about

829
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,239
Anthony Joshua's future. So apparently Turkey's got them on board

830
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,960
for a two fight deal where they'll each have a

831
00:37:18,199 --> 00:37:20,920
fight and then they'll fight each other in the back

832
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,199
half of next year. So the plan has always sort

833
00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,480
of been even before the Jake Paul fight came up.

834
00:37:26,519 --> 00:37:28,519
This is I've written about this, everybody's written about this,

835
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,480
that Joshua would come back and fight whoever in February

836
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,480
and then they'll be supposedly a big fight in the

837
00:37:35,519 --> 00:37:37,320
in the second half of the year. So I think

838
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:39,880
that's the plan. They'll fight to fight December nineteenth. If

839
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,119
he destroys Jake Paul the way most people think he will,

840
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:43,840
there won't be a too big of a problem from

841
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,760
the return to the rank February timeframe, maybe March whatever,

842
00:37:47,079 --> 00:37:49,280
and then move on if he wins that to some

843
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,440
type of like Folish September type fight against Fury, and Fury,

844
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:54,840
wh will have been out of the ring for over

845
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,039
a year, probably will want to come back and take

846
00:37:57,039 --> 00:37:59,199
a tune up fight or something or other, get paid,

847
00:37:59,519 --> 00:38:01,400
and then if wins, move on to the big fight

848
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,679
against Anthony Joshua at the end of twenty twenty six.

849
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,400
And obviously that is the fight that you and I

850
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:09,639
have talked about, that everybody in boxing has talked about

851
00:38:09,679 --> 00:38:12,039
that should happen, even more so than when we talked

852
00:38:12,039 --> 00:38:16,199
about Deontay Wilder against Tyson Theory and so we will

853
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:20,039
see hopefully that will get done. And like we've discussed

854
00:38:20,039 --> 00:38:22,239
many times, they may not be what they were at

855
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,320
their best. They are no longer champions. They're certainly closer

856
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:30,039
to retirement than certainly in their primes. But for the

857
00:38:30,119 --> 00:38:32,559
sake of the history books, this is a fight that

858
00:38:32,679 --> 00:38:37,400
must happen. You cannot go through your long careers and

859
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,280
the two best heavyweights in Britain for a long period

860
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,760
of time, who had titles and were back and forth

861
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,440
and never fight each other, they got to do the fight,

862
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,840
and hopefully that's what we'll see in twenty twenty six.

863
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:47,960
Whatever the stakes are.

864
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 2: Well and that's provided.

865
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: I mean, we got again the injury variable is still

866
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:53,239
there for Anthony Joshua and I'm not doing this for

867
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,280
the preview. We got a preview upcoming with Jake Paul,

868
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,719
so we got a question mark on his elbow injury

869
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,559
and coming back from that. Both older Fury beaten in

870
00:39:02,559 --> 00:39:04,119
his last two fights and has taken.

871
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:04,800
Speaker 2: A full year off.

872
00:39:05,199 --> 00:39:08,119
Speaker 1: We'll see lots of variables in play, but at least

873
00:39:08,159 --> 00:39:12,559
for now, Turkey Alischik's gonna follow through with Joshua and

874
00:39:12,599 --> 00:39:15,800
Fury at some point in twenty twenty six. All right,

875
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,320
you mentioned earlier about the options at cruiserweight with Michalean winning,

876
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:26,039
with Jai Opataia wanting a unification fight. So now Zerdo

877
00:39:26,159 --> 00:39:30,199
Ramirez was to have had a fight in January, but

878
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,639
that may not be happening now before he fights David Benavetez.

879
00:39:33,679 --> 00:39:34,519
Speaker 2: What have you learned?

880
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 4: So I talked to people that are directly in bob

881
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,039
with this event, and so Golden Boy is ready to

882
00:39:40,039 --> 00:39:41,639
go with their January sixteenth event.

883
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:42,679
Speaker 3: We've discussed it.

884
00:39:42,679 --> 00:39:47,039
Speaker 4: When they made the rematch between Curio and Alexis Rocha,

885
00:39:47,079 --> 00:39:49,000
they had a fantastic fight that was I think it

886
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:50,800
was a year ago today actually that we're taping this

887
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,039
where they put on a tremendous battle turned out to

888
00:39:53,079 --> 00:39:56,000
be a draw to you know, good weltirweight contenders. And

889
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,519
so they're doing the rematch on January sixteenth in Palm Desert, California.

890
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:04,239
And the idea was with Zerdo Ramirez having had the

891
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:07,159
victory against Dordacost that you were at back in June,

892
00:40:07,199 --> 00:40:09,639
he then underwent he had a suffered a shoulder injury

893
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:12,119
in that fight. He had surgery to repair that.

894
00:40:12,159 --> 00:40:12,639
Speaker 3: In July.

895
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:15,280
Speaker 4: He was going to be out until the end of

896
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,360
the year, and it would you know, try to come

897
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,280
back in the early part of twenty twenty six. And

898
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,679
so the plan sort of in pencil was Zerdo will

899
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,920
come back and fight on that card, perhaps even in

900
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,119
the headliner if they change it up, because he's I

901
00:40:28,119 --> 00:40:29,960
did find it weird that they would have the unified

902
00:40:30,199 --> 00:40:33,159
cruiserweight title holder fighting on an undercard of a non

903
00:40:33,199 --> 00:40:36,000
title fight where it's not like one guy is the

904
00:40:36,159 --> 00:40:39,159
massive crowd favorites all all the tickets. You know, Rocha

905
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:41,480
draws a crowd, but Zerdo would draw a crowd as

906
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,320
a champion for a type of fight like that anyway,

907
00:40:43,639 --> 00:40:45,599
But anyway, they would put him on the show, whether

908
00:40:45,639 --> 00:40:48,679
main event or otherwise. And the name that was said

909
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960
to me and others was that he would fight the

910
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,760
other another Golden Boy cruiserweight, Robin Safar, who was the

911
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:59,360
undefeated fighter that had kicked Sergey kovolevs Ass in Saudi

912
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,000
Arabia not long ago. In any event, it has come

913
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:04,079
to my knowledge as I speak to the people involved,

914
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,679
that Zerdo, while he wants to test the shoulder and

915
00:41:06,679 --> 00:41:08,920
make sure he is sound, because remember he has signed

916
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,880
since for the May fight against David Benavidez. He didn't

917
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,480
want to go into that fight off the layoff and

918
00:41:14,559 --> 00:41:17,800
off the injury without having a test now. But now

919
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,599
it's now time where the rubber is going to meet

920
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,800
the road. So he's in the process duel. I Actually

921
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:23,880
he's been training, I am told. But is he going

922
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:27,360
to take the gamble and actually fight in January? That's

923
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,239
still up in the air. I'm told he probably won't fight.

924
00:41:31,119 --> 00:41:34,639
If he does fight, I was told unequivocally he will

925
00:41:34,639 --> 00:41:37,119
not be fighting Robin so Far that I think everybody

926
00:41:37,199 --> 00:41:40,320
understood that is too danger of as an opponent to

927
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,199
put in front of him with the.

928
00:41:42,119 --> 00:41:46,039
Speaker 1: Benavide Because on the table, I saw a couple of

929
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,639
people that said they got to Sfar who was at

930
00:41:48,639 --> 00:41:52,239
the LA show, and so Far says, we have an agreement.

931
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,039
Speaker 2: What do we know? Do they have a signed agreement or.

932
00:41:55,519 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 4: So far with saying was that we're still negotiating in

933
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,159
it's fine for him to say that, but he's.

934
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,599
Speaker 1: An agreement and not being signed or two different things.

935
00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: But he also is not the one that has to

936
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,920
say no offense to so far. He's the opponent, So

937
00:42:08,039 --> 00:42:10,880
they opt to change the opponent. That's that he's got

938
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:12,960
no say over that matter, as he doesn't have a

939
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,119
signed contract where you could, you know, suit them or

940
00:42:15,159 --> 00:42:18,519
something like that. So if it's if I'm the one

941
00:42:18,559 --> 00:42:21,920
that's the betting man, I would tell you most likely

942
00:42:23,159 --> 00:42:25,599
that he probably won't fight and he'll go to the

943
00:42:25,599 --> 00:42:28,519
big fight in May. And that's what makes fucking sense

944
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,360
because it's not like he's coming off a two year left.

945
00:42:31,519 --> 00:42:33,480
He'll have been out of the ring for about what

946
00:42:33,679 --> 00:42:38,039
eleven months? Right in today's boxing world, for championship level fighters,

947
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:42,000
that is absolutely no big deal. If you're really worried

948
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,519
about your shoulder, you know what, Quietly close the gym door,

949
00:42:46,079 --> 00:42:48,639
take the head gear off, bring in one of your guys,

950
00:42:48,679 --> 00:42:50,840
and go for four rounds out out, you.

951
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,280
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.

952
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 2: You don't need to know, and then.

953
00:42:53,039 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 4: Then you'll know what's up. So uh, Now, if he

954
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:57,840
does go through with the fight, so be it. We'll

955
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,440
see who they who they dig up for him, and hopefully,

956
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,480
if it happens he comes out of the fight unscathed,

957
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,880
then we get the big fight in May. Uh and

958
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:07,599
if if if it falls apart, then shame on everybody

959
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:10,719
involved because to me, taking a dangerous tune up fight

960
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,679
before a big time money fight before a big time

961
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,400
attraction fight is just stupid business, all.

962
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:19,079
Speaker 1: Right, And we've seen that happen some even recently. Well

963
00:43:19,119 --> 00:43:21,760
I've seen you've seen and you've seen it. Well, yeah,

964
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,320
taking the tune up fight and getting beat.

965
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:26,679
Speaker 4: By the way, the same thing can be said. What's

966
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,519
going on with Joshua and the Fury right now?

967
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: That's correct.

968
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 3: The fact that we.

969
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,039
Speaker 4: Would spend so long finally trying to get to the

970
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:35,199
point where the fight could be made and they take

971
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:35,679
to fight.

972
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,119
Speaker 2: I was gonna say this to you. Can we just

973
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:38,719
circle back to that for one second? Then we got

974
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,079
to move on.

975
00:43:39,639 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 1: If Anthony Joshua was steam rolls Jake Paul like, we think,

976
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,119
why why can't the Fury fight be the next fight?

977
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:48,559
Is Fury gonna be insistent that he has to have

978
00:43:48,679 --> 00:43:50,840
a fight. Why can't that be the next fight like

979
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,679
in the spring.

980
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:52,639
Speaker 3: Because it's just not gonna be.

981
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 4: I think probably what it has to do with twofold

982
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,400
one is if you take the tune of fight, everybody

983
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,280
gets an extra pay day number one, uh number two.

984
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 2: But these guys don't need that. Who cares? I mean,

985
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,360
they've made hundreds of millions of dollars.

986
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,679
Speaker 4: Yet, but that's everybody want. They always want more as

987
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,119
the bottom line, but I think more for putting that aside.

988
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,679
I think this the timing of it is. Remember this

989
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:18,360
is Turkey's calendar that he's operating with. They do their

990
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,719
biggest events within the context of the riad season, so

991
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:24,920
they're gonna do probably this February ish type fight, which

992
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,039
would be around when the when the festival is ending,

993
00:44:27,559 --> 00:44:29,440
and they try to do a big event when the

994
00:44:29,559 --> 00:44:35,400
festival kicks off because it runs from like late. So

995
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:39,119
it seems to me that fury Jib would happen to

996
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:42,000
kick off the next festival. That's the reason for the

997
00:44:42,079 --> 00:44:43,519
timing of it, seems to me.

998
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,280
Speaker 1: All Right, a couple of more news items. So when

999
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,679
we uh left on the podcast Thursday night into Friday,

1000
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:55,400
we were wondering what would happen with Oshaki Foster now

1001
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,880
that he had gotten the WBC interim lightweight title bestowed

1002
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,760
upon him for winning a fight that should have just

1003
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,440
been for his title, but whatever.

1004
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 2: So now Foster's made his decision.

1005
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 4: That's but Fulton was that overweight, so that's why it

1006
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:09,639
wasn't for the title.

1007
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,599
Speaker 1: Well, but you could have still had it be for

1008
00:45:13,519 --> 00:45:15,559
Foster's one hundred and thirty pound title with just him

1009
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:17,719
being the winner and blah blah blah whatever. All right,

1010
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,079
So Foster had a decision to make, and Stephen Fulton

1011
00:45:20,199 --> 00:45:22,039
has now also made a decision since we put that

1012
00:45:22,159 --> 00:45:23,519
pod out, So what are the updates?

1013
00:45:24,159 --> 00:45:28,159
Speaker 4: Okay, So, when Foster defeated Fulton to win that interim

1014
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,480
belt and did so in very impressive virtual shutout fashion,

1015
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:33,760
when it was over here, he's sitting there with the

1016
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,159
WBC interim lightweight title. He also was still the BBC's

1017
00:45:37,199 --> 00:45:40,719
junior lightweight champion. And because the organizations don't let you

1018
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:45,840
hold multiple belts in different divisions, you know, unless you

1019
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,719
make that call, you get a few weeks gracetime or

1020
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,119
a month or whatever. They made an exception years ago

1021
00:45:50,159 --> 00:45:52,239
for Floyd Mayweather, but that was Floyd. He doesn't have

1022
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480
to play by the rules. Apparently, in any event, they

1023
00:45:54,519 --> 00:45:57,360
gave sho Shaky Foster fifteen days to decide am I

1024
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,199
going to keep this belt that lightweight or am I

1025
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,559
going to retain my belt at junior lightweight?

1026
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:02,760
Speaker 3: And he didn't waste a lot of time.

1027
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,599
Speaker 4: He didn't go to the last limit he weighed, you know,

1028
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,440
less than a week and told the WBC, I'm going

1029
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,119
to keep my belt at one hundred and thirty pounds,

1030
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,079
and so therefore he vacates the title of the interim

1031
00:46:12,159 --> 00:46:15,760
version at one hundred and thirty five pounds. And Stephen Fulton,

1032
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,880
who was the featherweight champion who was supposed to challenge

1033
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,400
for the one hundred and thirty pound title but came

1034
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,760
in two exits, passed the highway. Yeah, hundred thirty two pounds.

1035
00:46:24,639 --> 00:46:26,159
Clearly is not going to be able to make one

1036
00:46:26,199 --> 00:46:28,679
hundred and twenty six pounds any longer. So he also

1037
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,119
vacated the featherweight title, and presumably is if he whatever

1038
00:46:32,199 --> 00:46:34,440
he decides to in the future, probably I would think

1039
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:36,599
would still be at one thirty. That he'll he'll be

1040
00:46:36,679 --> 00:46:38,880
able to make one hundred and thirty. Maybe he won't,

1041
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,679
Maybe I'll stay at one thirty five. Who that knows,

1042
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:45,079
But the point is Foster keeps the belt at one thirty.

1043
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,159
Now with the featherweight situation, Bruce Shushu Carrington is the

1044
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,880
WBC's interim champion. Now, typically if there's a champion who

1045
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:56,199
vacates and there's an interim champion, the interim champion is

1046
00:46:56,199 --> 00:46:58,719
automatically elevated, and that is certainly the case in the

1047
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,199
WBA and in the IBF and the WBO. In the

1048
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,239
case of the WBC, it's not a guarantee. Sometimes it

1049
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,000
can be, sometimes it isn't. In this particular case, Shoes

1050
00:47:09,039 --> 00:47:13,039
Shoe Carrington has a fight scheduled January thirty first, probably

1051
00:47:13,119 --> 00:47:16,639
on the t FEMO card against Shakur lesser chance on

1052
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:19,039
the Xander Zayas card in Puerto Rico on the same day,

1053
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:20,920
which is also that's a top rank show.

1054
00:47:21,199 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 3: But he's going to.

1055
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,760
Speaker 4: Fight his mandatory or the number one guy whoever, however

1056
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,400
you want to phrase it in Carlos castro So. While

1057
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,119
he'll be the interim champion going into the fight, they're

1058
00:47:30,159 --> 00:47:33,400
actually fighting for the vacant WBC featherweight title that Fulton

1059
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:36,280
left behind, so at least he has to fight for it.

1060
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,199
He won't be a just a quote unquote email champion.

1061
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:41,159
He'll be able to win the vacant title in the ring,

1062
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,960
whichever the guy guys come out of that particular fight.

1063
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,199
And the one thing though that's interesting is that the

1064
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:52,079
WBC really dodged a bullet here, a potentially extraordinarily embarrassing situation,

1065
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:54,800
possibly litigation if it didn't go the way that the

1066
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:58,480
promoters were expecting at the convention. A few days before

1067
00:47:58,559 --> 00:48:01,599
they approved the fight for the interim title between Foster

1068
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,360
and Fulton. They had approved the fight at their convention

1069
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:08,719
for the interim title between Jada Herrera, an excellent prospect

1070
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:10,920
or had on my top prospects list at the end

1071
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:14,599
of last year, Who's a Queensberry fighter against Ricardo Duniez

1072
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,400
for the interim title vacant interim title even though it

1073
00:48:17,559 --> 00:48:20,559
was unnecessary to begin with. Nonetheless, they had approved it

1074
00:48:20,679 --> 00:48:22,960
was going to be January tenth on the undercart of

1075
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:27,559
your boy g Cabiel's German homecoming fight in the WBC

1076
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:32,280
interim heavyweight title. But then they approved the Foster Fulton fight.

1077
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,559
So Foster wins that interim belt. What if he decided

1078
00:48:35,599 --> 00:48:38,760
to keep it? They had already approved and stipulated that

1079
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,079
the other fighters that title, So what are they going

1080
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:43,440
to make two interim titles? So they dodged a bullet

1081
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,920
because Foster just was, you know, decided to give it up.

1082
00:48:46,159 --> 00:48:48,079
I'm actually very curious what would have happened if he

1083
00:48:48,119 --> 00:48:48,840
had actually kept it.

1084
00:48:49,679 --> 00:48:52,159
Speaker 2: Well, thing if benj to just to have the number

1085
00:48:52,199 --> 00:48:53,320
one contender.

1086
00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:56,039
Speaker 4: Him and well, TJ stop making so much sense.

1087
00:48:56,039 --> 00:48:59,559
Speaker 1: Exactly, all right, So that is resolved, by the way,

1088
00:48:59,679 --> 00:49:02,840
while we're here, you have also you mentioned to us

1089
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,920
that Richardson Hitchinson Richardson Hitchins exclude excuse me, was likely

1090
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,760
to be on the January thirty first card. You have

1091
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,599
more on that off the weekend. Here, what's the latest

1092
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:16,920
about Hitchins on this Tea Femo Shakor card.

1093
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 4: So he will be on the card, opponent his TV

1094
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,679
and now so he'll be defending his IBF title, which

1095
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,079
is not a surprise to me at all. He had

1096
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:25,119
been a free agent, but they had a relationship with

1097
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,400
Turkey and you know who was obviously the one backing

1098
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,559
the show, but the official promoter of the event is

1099
00:49:30,599 --> 00:49:32,639
mattrom Boxing. Of course, when he fought his last fight

1100
00:49:33,039 --> 00:49:36,360
and he knocked out George Cambosis, he was a free

1101
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,760
agent because that was his last fight. But what Eddie

1102
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:42,199
Hearn took exception to, because Eddie's a little sensitive sometimes,

1103
00:49:43,519 --> 00:49:45,920
is that when Richardson did his interview with his own

1104
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:48,920
post fight, he said I'm now a free agent, and

1105
00:49:49,039 --> 00:49:52,119
that irritated Eddie, who had ample time, by the way,

1106
00:49:52,159 --> 00:49:54,400
to resign him at any point leading up to the fight,

1107
00:49:55,159 --> 00:49:57,760
but regardless, so they had their back and forth between

1108
00:49:58,039 --> 00:50:01,199
Hitchins and Eddie and Eddie and Hitchens manager is Keith

1109
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Connolly and Connolly and and Eddie and whatever. But apparently

1110
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,079
when they were having the press conference for Shakhor and

1111
00:50:09,199 --> 00:50:14,079
Tiafimo in New York City last week, Eddie and Connolly

1112
00:50:14,159 --> 00:50:16,360
sat down and met with each other. They brought Richardson

1113
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:19,079
in to also meet with them, and they had done. Listen,

1114
00:50:19,159 --> 00:50:20,760
whatever you think they have, there's a lot of strong

1115
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:26,360
personalities in that room. They understand that they all benefited

1116
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,199
from each other, and they decided it was best to

1117
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:32,400
not break up the band. And so Richardson is back

1118
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,480
with Eddie at least for the time being. And the

1119
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:36,440
first fight of this new arrangement is going to take

1120
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:39,239
place on this undercard, and that makes logical sense putting

1121
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,679
the promotional aspect aside. Is here you have a brash,

1122
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:46,199
talented fighter like Richardson Hitchins defending his one hundred and

1123
00:50:46,199 --> 00:50:48,760
forty pound title. He is a New Yorker, and the

1124
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:50,880
main event, by the way, happens to be in the

1125
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,639
same way class and so if you're trying to set

1126
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,559
up future fights, even if it's not the next fight,

1127
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:59,000
you give him visibility and exposure and watch him defend

1128
00:50:59,039 --> 00:51:01,679
his title on the same card where the number one

1129
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:04,559
champion and tia Fimo was taken on, you know, arguably

1130
00:51:04,639 --> 00:51:05,400
the top lightweight.

1131
00:51:05,519 --> 00:51:08,360
Speaker 1: And as you said the other night, he's a draw

1132
00:51:08,519 --> 00:51:10,679
to a degree in New York. He's got a following.

1133
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,519
So all of this makes sense. It all lines up.

1134
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:16,119
Everybody figured it out. So opponent TBA, you'll hear him

1135
00:51:16,159 --> 00:51:18,840
that soon. And if I had to wager, the guy

1136
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,280
that's on the pod with me will have it on

1137
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,360
the fight Preach United, Substack or on one of the

1138
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:22,800
names that.

1139
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,239
Speaker 3: Was one of the rumored names.

1140
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 4: And you know, I've been at one point you hear, okay,

1141
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:28,199
this is the guy then here, Well it's probably not

1142
00:51:28,239 --> 00:51:30,000
going to be the guy now here again, Well, maybe

1143
00:51:30,039 --> 00:51:31,760
it'll be the guy one of the names that's been

1144
00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:34,239
very prominent in terms of who he'll fight. I don't

1145
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,599
know if it's actually gonna happen, but is Jermaine Ortiz,

1146
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,039
who has certainly been in the ring with good fighters.

1147
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:41,880
He gave Vasili Lomachenko one of his toughest fights, even

1148
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,079
though he lost a decision. I thought he beat t

1149
00:51:45,199 --> 00:51:47,639
Fimo Lopez the night they fought. He lost a very,

1150
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,320
very razor close decision that night. I thought he won

1151
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:51,920
that fight, as horrible of a fight as that was.

1152
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:55,000
So that's one guy that's possibly is going to get

1153
00:51:55,039 --> 00:51:56,639
this assignment. We'll see who else they come up with.

1154
00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:59,440
Speaker 1: And one other note, and I'm intrigued by this fight

1155
00:51:59,519 --> 00:52:02,400
that you have on the sheet here. WBA Featherweight champion

1156
00:52:02,519 --> 00:52:05,639
Nick Ball will make his latest defense in the new

1157
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,519
year on February seventh.

1158
00:52:07,679 --> 00:52:09,840
Speaker 2: Tell me about the opponent. What are the deats here?

1159
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,639
Speaker 3: I'm going to give you the t is that we're

1160
00:52:12,639 --> 00:52:13,280
talking about me the.

1161
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: T spill the tea right here, right now, Nick Ball,

1162
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,239
this intriguing fight. Tell the public.

1163
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 3: Okay.

1164
00:52:18,840 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 4: So back in like late October, I want to say,

1165
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,519
or mid October, the WB ordered his mandatory defense, which

1166
00:52:23,519 --> 00:52:28,400
is against Brandon Figueroa, the former featherweight and junior featherweight titleer.

1167
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,840
He had won a title eliminator. Off the top of

1168
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:32,480
my head, I want to say it was on the

1169
00:52:32,519 --> 00:52:35,559
Manny pac Yao Mario Barrios undercard that took place in

1170
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:37,760
July was at the fight, but I don't remember if

1171
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:38,360
that was the show.

1172
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 3: It was at any event.

1173
00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:43,800
Speaker 4: He escaped with a victory in that particular fight, and

1174
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,639
they ordered the mandatory and so they didn't have to

1175
00:52:46,679 --> 00:52:48,320
go through a lot of nonsense. They want to quickly

1176
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,800
make the deal and U just in the last couple

1177
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,519
of days, Frank Warde announced that that fight will in

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fact headline on his own February seventh. It will take

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place at the M and S Bank Arena in Nick

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Ball's hometown of Liverpool, where he's going to be fighting

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yet again. It's like a fortress Roomy's fault or now

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if this will be I think his third fighter's third

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defense there. He's fought there earlier in his career, I guess,

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But I'm talking about as a champion and uh, figure

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out will make the trip from the United States to

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go to England to do the fight.

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Speaker 3: And it's a good name.

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Speaker 4: I mean, figure out has got accomplishment, he's gotten some

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good wins. He's been in the ring twice with Steven Fulton,

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He's fought some other good opponents and Nick Ball always

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comes to fight, very exciting fighter, and look.

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Speaker 3: It's a real fight I mean, I think Figure like

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this matchup.

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Speaker 4: I definitely think Figure is gonna have to step his

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game up from the way he's looked at his last

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couple of fights. But it's not like he's not capable

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of winning the fight. And certainly Nick Ball is capable

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of winning the fight. You got to give him a

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little bit of a of a cushion because he's at home.

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But uh, this is not one of those hand picked

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you know jimos as I say, where you just bring

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the guy in and you get an appearance fight. This

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seems to be on paper like a legitimate fight compared

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to I'm not talking about nick Ball in particular. I

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just mean certain times when the champion goes and has

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a hometown fight and they try to find like the

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least guy they can get away with.

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Speaker 3: This is not that case.

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Speaker 4: Brandon Figueroa not only is he the mandatory, but he's

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a if you believe he won the last fight as

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close as it was, he's a legitimate mandator. This guy

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with some accomplishment, and he's been in with the ring

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with a lot of good guys, and he's got a big.

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Speaker 2: Name, all right. So that's for February. There you go.

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That's a full show.

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Speaker 1: As we head now to Jake Joshua Fight week and

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I say again, be on this podfeed because we're gonna

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do a special podcast with my guys in England, Ricky Carroll,

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the managing editor at Big Fight Weekend dot Com, David Payne,

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who's a contributor, the boxing writer, to see what they're

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saying over there about this fight coming in Miami on

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Friday night. Once again, you're gonna be with me a

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bunch Dan Rayfield Wednesday, Dan bet Us Boxing Show Wednesday

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that will be one Eastern time on their platforms again

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no longer on YouTube, bet USTv, on kick dot com,

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on the Rumble app, as well as Twitter X with

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the bet Us platforms, you'll see us Wednesday one Eastern time.

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You will get a full pod preview on this pod

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feed right here, this audio podfeed Thursday night into Friday,

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and then is if you haven't been with me enough,

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Big Dan, be with me after the fight card in

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Miami on Netflix Friday night late, probably not before midnight

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Eastern time, maybe even later than that. You and I'll

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recap whatever happens with Jake Joshua and the rest of

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the fight card off of Netflix Friday night on our

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YouTube page exclusively Big Fight Weekend YouTube page. Go there

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be there be subscribed up, help us out. Other than that,

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I think we're good to get this Fight week rolling.

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They need to follow and subscribe to this podfeed. They

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need to be on your newsletter and on the substack.

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Subscribe up. You've still got the holiday sale in progress.

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So other than that, I think we're good here for

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the week and we're ready to start talking Jake, Paul, Anthony,

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Joshua and whatever this is gonna.

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Speaker 3: Be coming, whatever this is gonna be, we don't know.

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Speaker 1: We don't know what this is gonna be. Stay tuned.

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We might think we know, and then then again it's boxing.

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Uh standards our as our.

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Speaker 4: The legendary Larry Merchant calls it thet very much. So

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I think a lot of us think this is going

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to be the expected and maybe will be proven wrong.

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Speaker 1: Maybe may be proven wrong, but this is what he

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meant all of those years ago. The unexpected sometimes happens, uh,

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And stay tuned, all right, Big Dan, have.

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Speaker 2: A good week.

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Speaker 1: They search up with you later in the week, obviously

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on the bet Us Show first and then on this

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pod feat Thursday in the preview mode as well. I'm

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merely tj Reefs. You've been with us on the Fight

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Preaching Night Recap podcast