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Speaker 1: He just comes off the gun. He's down here and

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he comes off the gun. He says, this maybe the

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one time I outshot you. He looks at me said

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I said, well, hell, let's go down range. I'm Ryan

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Gresham and this this is gun Talk Nation. All right,

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welcome into gun Talk Nation.

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Speaker 2: This Gun Talk Nation is brought to you by Smith

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and Wesson called Well, Range, Ready and Colt. Today on

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the show, we've got Kevin Jarn again, We've got Chris

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Serno team gun Talk.

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Speaker 1: So we all actually we.

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Speaker 2: Don't work remote remote working.

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Speaker 1: It blows.

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Speaker 2: Also say it has his pros and cons and it

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also has his cons.

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Speaker 1: It has a lot of cons.

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Speaker 2: So we're in the office. We've got a shooting range

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here on site. You guys have been I'm gonna say,

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I'm gonna say a four letter word that starts with

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f fiddle farting, Yes, with a gun.

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Speaker 1: That's a four letter word.

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Speaker 2: I'm counting them up in my head, goes, I'm counting

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at least.

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Speaker 1: Six or seven. Yeah. Yeah, we tool around with a

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lot of guns.

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Speaker 2: Sign But you guys have been fiddle with a gun

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for I feel like a few weeks, and I like

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drive in and out of the parking lot, like they're

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over there again.

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Speaker 1: What if you're doing what are they doing with the

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never know what they're doing? Never know? God, he doesn't.

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It's the same gun.

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Speaker 3: It is the same gun we're going to talk about,

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and it's Chris's gun.

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Speaker 2: Chasing accuracy and barrels and whatnot.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean we do that with a lot

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of different guns. We've done it with with uh, you know,

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every kind of gun that we shoot out here. Of course,

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this this story is going to be about bold actions.

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But there's a lot of factors that go into what happened.

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Speaker 2: So we'll start from the beginning.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it there? What is accuracy? Well, what

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is actually what's the expectation?

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Speaker 2: And yes, a lot of factors go into accuracy, because

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when it comes to guns, you'd be like.

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Speaker 1: Is it accurate?

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean are you accurate?

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Speaker 3: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Do your guns shoot low and left?

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Speaker 4: That's every single person. That's every single person because we

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look at groups on on instagrams and on the socials

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and it's like, is that you is that.

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Speaker 1: A one time group?

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Speaker 3: Because I know there's a lot of shooters. Shooters. I'm

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gonna use Chris saying.

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Speaker 1: I'm a shooter. I'm a shooter shoot just charged firearms.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of groups that I question out there.

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And because I because I have seen the people shoot

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in real.

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Speaker 2: Life, I r L it's basketball trick shots. Okay, look

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at this amazing trick shot. I mean it is amazing.

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It took you three days, eight hours a day to

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make that ball go in that hole.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, go for b Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So like, yes, it was accomplished, but can you do

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it on command? And we're going off on a tangent.

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Speaker 4: But that's not a tangent. That is, we are answering

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the question what is accurate? What is your accuracy? I

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guess that's really what it comes down to with us.

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Speaker 1: Had us wondering if we could even shoot. I had

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no clue, So what is so?

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Speaker 2: So if somebody is out there, and there's probably we

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have various folks. We have a fella who has a

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rifle and you know, shoots minute of deer and that's good.

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shooting four or five six inch groups at one hundred

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good enough to kill a deer. I'm like, I know,

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but that's really not that's not acct from the gun.

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Speaker 1: And this is why, because.

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Speaker 2: What was this gun was doing, A lot of people

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would have been like cool done.

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Speaker 3: They wouldn't have known.

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Speaker 4: They wouldn't have known until they got out in the field,

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Speaker 2: Guys, kind of maybe some parameters of like what perhaps

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you should expect. There's not one answer, because anytime someone

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says this is the answer, that's usually bs're.

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Speaker 3: Your antenna's better start going up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, what should the expectations be?

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Speaker 2: Probably different for different types of guns against gun, a

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bolt gun, a lever gun could be different expectations there, right, So.

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Speaker 4: So our expectations of accuracy have have really progressed over

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the past i'd say ten years. You so you talk

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about a bolt gun like this, let's just say out

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of the box, Remington's seven hundred. You're looking man one

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moa like it's an inch gun, Like.

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Speaker 1: If you can shoot an inch inch and a half.

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Speaker 2: If you go back twenty five years really close, it

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was a inch and a half two inch, right, gun

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was like, yeah, so accurate, our kill everything.

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Speaker 4: Our standards, our standards, and I think a lot of

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attributes to what gun manufacturers are really getting out there today,

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like we've changed we are. I mean around this office,

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I feel like we are accuracy snobs.

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Speaker 1: Oh sure, you shoot everything.

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Speaker 2: And so part of the reason why we're talking about

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accuracies so much and maybe having a higher standard is

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because we're doing different things. So, yes, if you hunt

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in the thick woods and the longest shot you have

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you can kind of get away with a lot.

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Speaker 1: Killed a lot of deer with rifled slugs out of

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smooth board shotguns. I lived in Ohio, right, And I

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mean they were anywhere from point bow range to one

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hundred and twenty five and fifty right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I mean it's fine, and and if somebody

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says that's good enough for me and I have no problems. Cool.

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rifle shooting, right, and precision doesn't only mean accurate. What

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we're really talking about is precision at range, at a

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longer range. So a one gun is a ten inch

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gun at one thousand yards.

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Speaker 1: Yes, that's one m away.

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Speaker 2: So if we're starting out and a gun is shooting

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quote unquote wild because it's shooting three inch groups, that's

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a thirty inch group of one thousand yards, You guys

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longer range rifle matches and stuff. And that's where this

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Speaker 4: Yes, my question, my question to you, Ryan is what

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what's what's your accuracy and a bolt gun? What do

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you expect out of a gun that you pick up

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Speaker 1: What should you expect? What should a guy listening to this.

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Speaker 2: A shelf gun is probably should be shooting an inch

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group at one hundred yards off the shelf, not some

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crazy custom thing.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, go ahead, because here's what I'm gonna say,

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because I haven't said much yet. Let's remember this a

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paster that you put on a bullet hole on a

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target as a one inch paster, Right, that's a that's

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really good. I'mall okay, if I just went and bought

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a gun and then bought Ammo just any amo, and gosh,

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this is forty two dollars for twenty and this is

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twenty seven for twenty and I went with the forty

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two or the twenty seven because either one could be wrong, right,

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I may not shoot that inch. Well we're here's yeah, there,

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there's we're going to get there. We're going to get there.

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then you guys go on. We've shot some really cool

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rifles on this range. We've shot rifles from from Seekins

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and Christensen and c Z. Yeah, we've shot. We shot

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the new Bonelli LOOPO. Yes, twenty seven, not three thousands,

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don't say three thousand. Well in general that category of gun.

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able to shoot flies off a target with it. Okay,

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unheard of, but they can do it. I could do it,

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the gun could do it. Then we shot the LOOPO.

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a this is a bold action gun that comes over

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the counter and literally shooting dimes like stacking half inch.

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Speaker 3: That's a half inch gun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, so then you're thinking, Okay, now we're building

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this custom gun. We're building something.

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Speaker 3: Should it be an eighth inch gun?

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Speaker 1: It should be, it should be amazing. Right, So now

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you guys can carry on with your things.

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Speaker 2: Okay saying it because it's not I'm sorry, I'm sorry,

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shoot a one inch because it depends, is the answer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're very good guns. Savage has been very good guns.

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Speaker 2: And these are these are five hundred dollars six hundred

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the access to.

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Speaker 1: We can we can do that and we know how

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Speaker 5: But it depends on the AMMO, right, because we have

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we have a whole room full of different bullets and

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we'll say, wow, this is not good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah we change this is a like here's lesson number one.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you probably say it before growing You got to

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try different AMMO to see what the gun likes.

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Speaker 1: Is that true or false? True?

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Speaker 3: That's frustrating, but it is true. Okay, why can't a

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gun just shoot?

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Speaker 4: Why can't? Why are we? Why are we in an

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age right now? Where Oh no, you got to try this,

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Ammo owner, You've got to You got to buy six

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different boxes of Ammo to find out what gun.

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Speaker 2: This like, because cag because you're picky, because you want accuracy, picky.

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Speaker 1: You could shoot.

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Speaker 2: You could grab any box of AMMO and put it

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Speaker 1: The worst Ammo.

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Speaker 2: It'll probably be less than a two inch group, yes, right, probably.

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Speaker 1: I problem is grain weights problem. That's where the weight

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one forty, so the one forties kind of everybody's favorite.

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maybe it does all right, So, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 2: We have a gun sitting on the table here. If

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you're listening to this, you're not watching it. You might

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go over to YouTube or our website or whatever to

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see this. But the gun we're gonna be talking about

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is sitting on the table. It's really cool looking and

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on the front of the gun is taped a little

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bitty card with a little ragged hole.

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Speaker 1: That is the group. Finally, the final Yeah, and I

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didn't shoot it.

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but let's get into the story of lessons learned and

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chasing this gun and accuracy of swapping out barrels.

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Speaker 4: I love your title of chasing accuracy because.

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Speaker 3: We always tend to do that. I think we are always.

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Speaker 4: Looking how can it be better? What can we do?

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What can we do more? And that's what Chris did.

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So I approached Chris and I said, hey, why don't

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we go shoot a team NRL match me and you.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be awesome. He goes, I've got the perfect gun.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's Kj's fault. No, it's my fault, chase fault.

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Speaker 3: It is all.

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Speaker 1: It was a great gun when it was a three

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oh eight, but it was at.

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Speaker 4: Three oh eight and you did not want to shoot

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an NRL Hunter match with a three oh eight and

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tell people why, Well, is the standard on interl circuits

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right now. Six Why speed kills man like, and it's

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a little tiny bullet, lower drag, less wind.

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Speaker 2: Well like, it's not necessarily a shooting not flaster flatter,

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a little little.

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Speaker 1: It shoots a lot, but not a lot, not a

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lot flatter.

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Speaker 3: It's that BC.

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Speaker 1: It's the BC. It doesn't have. It has a lot.

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Speaker 2: It has significantly less wind drift than a threeh eight

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because it's a longer bullet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know down here south where we're shooting

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this match, there's probably not going to be as much win.

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So a threeh eight you can absolutely do that. With

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a three O eight you can you can do these

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matches with three o A. I'm not trying to discard

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the three eight three eight is here. We're not replacing it.

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Speaker 1: Great man. It kills a lot of stuff, but it

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is takes a lot of effort to shoot it. Because

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I shot PRS for a long time with three eights

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and everybody that was shooting other calibers magnum caliber seven

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seven wisdoms, you know seven mags three shooting on a

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match with a seven.

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Speaker 2: Well maybe that was years ago. We're seeing a lot

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of years ago, but we're seeing now.

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Speaker 1: Right, were shooting flatter, they're shooting fast, right, Well that

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was the thing to win, like magnum, go faster.

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Speaker 2: But now what we find is bullets that buck the

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wind because they're long. They're longer bullets for the size,

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but also you're having less recoil, so they're able to

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stay into the gun, stay in the scope, call your shot,

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call the wind.

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Speaker 4: All those things, right, you're taking in all those variables,

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and it's a game.

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Speaker 1: That's why I think it's a game. Seven man, like ridiculous,

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you can't stop. We changed we were going to change

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this barrel out and we had one on hand because

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we had done some stuff. We get some prototype barrels.

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Speaker 2: We get prototypes in we have stuff laying around. So

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we got this prototype barrel and it looked good.

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Speaker 1: It was from Blistic. Beautiful barrel.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was beautiful, and it was a barrel blank.

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Speaker 1: There's a barrel blank. It was a perfect blank for

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a six ' five. And we have, of course Todd

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at Maniaco Firearms. Yeah, and Todd said, yeah, man, I'll

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do it. We'll change it out and it's going to

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be great. And I said I wanted twenty inches and

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he said, I was crazy, but you know I wanted

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twenty inches because I'm stupid. Yeah, it's a six to five.

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It needs a lot more. But so we did it

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and we brought it back home.

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Speaker 4: And so when a gun leaves Todd Shop, I mean

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he sends.

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Speaker 3: You a picture of the group he shoots. He did,

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and what was that group?

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Speaker 1: It was pretty rady. It was probably an inch and

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a half. I would say it was an inch and

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a half, maybe two. I wish we still had it

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at that picture. But he said, man, it's probably going

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to settle down. It just needs to be shot a bit.

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Speaker 4: Like when he's talking a bit, he's thinking like forty

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sixty rounds type settling in which that is that's a lot.

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I mean, you're you're talking about time, money and effort

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trying to break something in which that's fine.

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Speaker 1: Maybe yeah something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but like that's still eighty bucks.

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Speaker 1: Eighty bucks on top of it would have cost sure

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if I had to buy the barrel. Sure it would

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have been so you know, eight hundred bucks.

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Speaker 2: So you and that's that brings us to barrel break

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in perhaps, but.

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Speaker 3: That's a whole other can of worms.

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Speaker 2: So you took the gun the new barrel out and

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what happened.

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Speaker 1: Well, we shot it and I couldn't shoot it really well.

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So I made kJ shoot it because you know, even

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though kJ doesn't generally shoot as good as me, No,

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we all have good days and bad days. And kJ

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shot it and he was sucking. And so then we

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kept shooting it more and more and they started getting

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really wild. Well, six inches out, it didn't settle in. No,

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it wasn't getting even close.

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Speaker 4: And I was like, well is it It's not heated

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up because we hadn't run that many rounds through. So

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then we start okay with the AMMO, we start just

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put different We started chanting jam and that was our

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first step to chase this accuracy.

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Speaker 1: And it's a six y five. It should have just

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shot horn ay one forties right off the bed.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, that's fair. That's a good stand. It's a good

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standard to have.

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Speaker 1: So you said, it was like, what was it doing?

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Speaker 2: It was inconsistent or it just kept getting wilder.

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Speaker 1: It was consistently inconsistent. Yeah, it would like you shoot

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too through the same hole and it shoot one four

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inches out, and then it put another one in the

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same hold, and it put one six inches out somewhere else.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously people who know guns are listening to

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this one.

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Speaker 1: Well, it sounds like your scope is loose or your

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loose Okay, that was so so, So we sat on

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it for a couple of weeks. We said, we'll take

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it out again and we'll give it a try. So

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we did.

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Speaker 2: You checked the scope, We checked it, We checked everything,

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everything right, and and we we we took we took

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the expressor off, we did everything.

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Speaker 1: We took it back out, we shot it again. And

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this is when we said, well, maybe the scope's bad.

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I mean it's a loophold scope. Okay, it's a Mark

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six six eight.

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Speaker 3: It is older.

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Speaker 1: Cool shorty in that scope has been around the country

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with me on a couple of different guns throughout my years,

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and so anything can happen. Because kJ we had one

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go bad. Scope's just everyone's smallly go bad. That's why

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you send them back. I mean I had I had

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a Tragy coon go bad the other day. That's a

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high high, big name brand. Yeah, and I sent it

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back and new quality.

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Speaker 3: Well and in part.

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Speaker 2: Of anything, anything can break, yes, Well, and that was

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his car.

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Speaker 1: You know, you still have to get This part of.

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Speaker 4: My issue too, was I had just had a loophole

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Mark five go totally wrong. I mean we're talking like

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six feet off, like I would shoot one and it

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would hit the target and then shoot another. That was

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another instance where I was like, Chris, you need to

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come shoot this because maybe I'm just having an off day.

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Did the exact same thing if not, I shot twice

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and you guys are still you're not I'm I'm asking.

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I guess you're not saying there's a problem with loophold scopes.

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Speaker 1: No, I was just saying that that one.

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Speaker 3: It just I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I sent it in and they're gonna send me like

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a refer right back, like whatever that was.

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Speaker 3: Wrong with it something. You know, these guns get beat around.

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We don't. These aren't safe queen guns.

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Speaker 1: That where we used scope too. We put that on

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more guns for more tv YEA, more more tests, range

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tests than any scope that's been back in our cash

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of things.

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Speaker 4: It's been pulled off so many times and thrown in

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the safe and everywhere else.

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Speaker 3: But so aside from the scopes, like okay, so all

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of them can go wrong.

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Speaker 1: So we changed out. So that day we took this

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scope which has been in those rings for fifteen years.

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We took it apart so not to throw salt in

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the wound.

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Speaker 3: But oh, you're just throw it.

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Speaker 1: How did this.

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Speaker 2: Gun shoot before you started fiddling with it?

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Speaker 1: Was a Remington standard, Remington PSR or spr whatever, it was,

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special police rifle, special purpose rifle. Its shot three oh

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eight one SI eight fed match like dimes, you know,

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so its shocked.

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Speaker 3: It was fine.

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Speaker 1: It was going back to its kj's fault. Maybe. Yes,

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I built this gone a long time ago. I mean

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it was a Remington action, Remington barrel. But I did

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the bolt handle, I did the bottom metal, I betted it.

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I did all that stuff, got the McMillan stock, I

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did all very rifle badger rail on top. You know,

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that's all good stuff. And then so we changed the

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scope out.

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Speaker 3: And kJ said, hey, come to a match.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So we changed out the scope. We put another

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really good scope on it, and it shot exactly the same.

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Speaker 2: Kind of like two touching young than one wide.

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Speaker 1: Wild, I mean exact.

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Speaker 2: It was so you guys, you were really going through

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all the variables scope, scope, rings, bases, AMO, different different

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types of AMMO, all of that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we spent we spent a lot of time.

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We wasted a lot of time. So then, but we

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didn't waste any time.

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Speaker 3: We wasted zero time with this gun.

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Speaker 4: Because how else do we sit here and deliver on

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like a cautionary tale and what to look for if

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we're not doing this stuff.

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Speaker 1: You undred percent right, because someone has to do it.

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Are This is This is what makes a great gun writer.

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This is what makes a great gun smith. This is

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what makes people like us more knowledgeable because we are

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we are afforded the luxury to be able to do

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these kinds of things.

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Speaker 2: And most people they have a few guns, or maybe

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you're listening to this, maybe you got a bunch. We won't tell,

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but you know you don't play with all of the

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guns and all of our scopes and all of the

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ammon we do. And I'm only saying that to like

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to kind of back up what you're saying is, these

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are experiences and lessons learned, and we're trying to kind

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of like pass this along and we were this all

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this podcast came from you guys were This morning I

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go into the gun room and you guys are beaming

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because you're just like we did it.

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Speaker 1: We did it. It's so look at this group. It's

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that group. It's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Gun people are so funny, right, dude, look at this

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paper with holes in it.

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Speaker 1: Isn't this amazing? They put it on his wall.

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Speaker 2: But so you did, and we didn't. We already kind

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of told the secret, and this story is. You ended

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up saying, Okay, I think it's this barrel that I

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swapped out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so weird. So we took it back to Todd's.

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I took it back. Yeah, I said, Todd, this thing

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is a piece of crapence He said, this is a prototype.

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But it's a prototype.

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00:22:39,279 --> 00:22:42,079
Speaker 4: They don't offer that barrel on their website, like they

474
00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,079
figured out something is wrong with these Probably we have

475
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,440
even told us that, right, Well, I just assumed since

476
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:49,480
they didn't launch him out.

477
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we get new stuffoon that ready. It's

478
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:54,960
not always ready.

479
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 2: We get new stuff and you're like, oh, you get

480
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,200
to play with all the new stuff. Yeah, sometimes it's

481
00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:04,559
not really. But there's stuff that guns or scopes or

482
00:23:04,599 --> 00:23:08,359
accessories or am or whatever silencers that we've played with

483
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,759
here that we solve problems, and then sometimes because of us,

484
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,880
it's delayed in launching.

485
00:23:15,599 --> 00:23:18,359
Speaker 3: Another year or taking off the book, taking off.

486
00:23:18,279 --> 00:23:21,880
Speaker 2: The books, like and then it launches eventually and it's.

487
00:23:21,759 --> 00:23:24,160
Speaker 1: Great and it's great. Yeah, but look, this is like.

488
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:28,640
Speaker 2: Product testing, you know, R and D. So yeah, I'm

489
00:23:29,079 --> 00:23:30,839
we are calling it out that this was a ballistic

490
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:33,119
Danage barrel, but we're also trying to let you guys know,

491
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,440
like you can't go buy it, right, can go buy it?

492
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:40,440
So maybe it's Chris's fault don't put prototype barrels on your.

493
00:23:40,319 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: Gun, but you never know. Sometimes they're really good.

494
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:48,279
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's awesome. Yeah, so you know a sidebar. Sometimes

495
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:52,920
side get new stuff in. It's awesome, it runs great,

496
00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:55,279
and they still don't launch it for a few years

497
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:57,519
because they said, well, our engineers wanted to do more.

498
00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:00,559
You want to I don't understand, Like it was great

499
00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:00,759
for us.

500
00:24:00,799 --> 00:24:02,160
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, it's just not ready yet.

501
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:06,079
Speaker 4: And you're like, well was talk about like the RXm

502
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:08,880
ther RXm was a perfect example.

503
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: Of that behind the scenes. All right, you guys haven't.

504
00:24:11,519 --> 00:24:15,039
Speaker 2: Heard this story, yeh, Like it's the Rugards over in

505
00:24:15,559 --> 00:24:16,400
June June.

506
00:24:16,559 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: It's a long time ago.

507
00:24:17,519 --> 00:24:19,880
Speaker 2: In that video that we launched that was eighty four

508
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,240
hundred round through one gun in one days, one gun

509
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,920
that was done in June. Yeah, and we're like, dude,

510
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,039
this is a sweet gun.

511
00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was great back then.

512
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 2: And they were like they're like, yeah, we're not launching

513
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:30,759
it yet.

514
00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: It's not ready. We're going, what do you mean? There's

515
00:24:32,759 --> 00:24:33,559
nothing wrong with it.

516
00:24:33,759 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: Nothing we had wrong with it.

517
00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: We didn't have one malfunction. We'd have one problem. We

518
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,039
were dunking that gun in water to cool it off.

519
00:24:41,079 --> 00:24:42,559
Speaker 3: We were running it so much.

520
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, it wasn't. Just a couple times there's ice

521
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:47,599
in that bucket. I was back there.

522
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 2: But I'm just saying, like there's those times when you

523
00:24:51,559 --> 00:24:52,519
I don't understand what's.

524
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,559
Speaker 3: Iron, but they want to make about it. They want

525
00:24:54,559 --> 00:24:55,000
to make it good.

526
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,839
Speaker 2: You know, it could be a manufacturing thing of like,

527
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,400
well it's ready, but we need to make make sure

528
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,240
we can make it five hundred of them a day

529
00:25:01,319 --> 00:25:01,599
or something.

530
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: Who knows.

531
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 2: But back to back to barrels. So you brought it

532
00:25:06,279 --> 00:25:08,720
back to Todd's. You said, I think we got to

533
00:25:08,759 --> 00:25:09,559
swap out the barrel.

534
00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,759
Speaker 1: Oh where'd you go from there? So that was that

535
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,160
was on Friday last week.

536
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: Friday last week, that was like, that was Monday, that was.

537
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: That was Friday last week, because you shot it on

538
00:25:22,039 --> 00:25:23,640
Sunday and I got it Monday evening.

539
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:25,119
Speaker 3: You were day six on Friday.

540
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,039
Speaker 1: Okay, you're right. It was Wednesday before I got six,

541
00:25:28,079 --> 00:25:30,279
So it was Wednesday because I didn't come in Thursday

542
00:25:30,319 --> 00:25:33,319
and Friday. I know, he's still I don't know. It

543
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,920
was my Friday, right, Does that make sense? Yes, it

544
00:25:36,039 --> 00:25:38,839
was my Friday. It was my Friday. It was my Friday,

545
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,079
for God's sake, not to make today my Friday. Yeah,

546
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,759
I'm out here. Yeah, I got it. So I took

547
00:25:47,799 --> 00:25:50,640
it in Wednesday, Friday. He got it done the bumper

548
00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,440
sticker by Sunday. When I went and picked it up Monday,

549
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:57,640
he was still lasering it, putting the six five on

550
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,519
it and everything in the markings, and and uh he

551
00:26:00,559 --> 00:26:02,680
had shot at Sunday, and he says, is this good enough?

552
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,559
And it was a group very very similar to what

553
00:26:05,559 --> 00:26:08,039
we're looking at here on the table with one raggedy hole.

554
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,920
It's about it could be it could be three sixteens. Okay,

555
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,119
if you measured that from center to center and you

556
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,160
discounted the flyer, it'd be three sixteens.

557
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:20,319
Speaker 3: And we're we're talking a flyer, not not a fly

558
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,680
It cuts the hole.

559
00:26:21,799 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Well, there's a difference between a flyer when you shoot

560
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:27,000
and you shoot enough and you go, yeah, that wasn't

561
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,559
a when the when the gun went off, I wasn't

562
00:26:29,559 --> 00:26:31,559
really where I wanted to be on my hold or

563
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,359
I did something goofy, you know it right, and you

564
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,759
know it when you shoot and it's six inches off

565
00:26:37,759 --> 00:26:39,799
to one side, you're like, that was not me.

566
00:26:40,319 --> 00:26:42,400
Speaker 1: I can tell you on I saw that one and

567
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,720
that was my third shot. Yeah, that's a half. That's

568
00:26:44,759 --> 00:26:47,119
a half. Always face shot, and that's always when you

569
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,440
have a good group. Oh look at me, don't screw

570
00:26:49,519 --> 00:26:51,920
it up. God see, I thought it would have been

571
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,759
a fifth shot. So Todd, we did the whole thing.

572
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:56,640
We could tell there was a difference right away. I

573
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,599
mean we so it just everything looks good, it feels good,

574
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,319
it fits good.

575
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 3: What'd you switch it to?

576
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 1: We switched to bart Line, Bartline, Bartlen whatever you guys

577
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,599
call it Bartline barrel And did you it cost me?

578
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,759
Speaker 2: And did Todd let you go twenty inches?

579
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:15,039
Speaker 1: Todd didn't let me go twenty inches. He's smart. He

580
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,400
put twenty two on it. Twenty two and we're still

581
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,119
only at twenty six hundred feet per second, which is

582
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:22,599
really a n emic for the six five six fifty

583
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:24,720
twenty six, fifteen, fifteen.

584
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's about it's about right.

585
00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:28,559
Speaker 1: It's about what you're gonna get six.

586
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: That's the thing people confuse well and the four ballistic

587
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,680
nerds and they're like, oh, I hear the six five

588
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,759
shoots flat, and I think they think that means it's

589
00:27:38,759 --> 00:27:39,480
a magnum, that.

590
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: It's like going fast three thousand. No, No, you're not

591
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:42,400
going to get that.

592
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 2: And that's why people shoot it well, is because even

593
00:27:46,039 --> 00:27:48,079
just backing off, it's not backing off, it's just what

594
00:27:48,079 --> 00:27:51,680
it is. But not being at three thousand and being

595
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,240
at sixty five twenty six to fifty or whatever it is,

596
00:27:54,279 --> 00:27:58,640
twenty six to fifteen, Yeah, you got it. Uh, it's

597
00:27:58,759 --> 00:28:02,720
just comfortable to shoot. It's just that little bit. It's

598
00:28:02,759 --> 00:28:05,960
about you know, like fifteen percent less ten.

599
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: On the shoot. But let's before we go into all

600
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,759
the cool stuff that we we could talk about. Let's

601
00:28:11,759 --> 00:28:14,359
just say that, so we took it out. Oh, the

602
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,079
scope was thrown on, everything was put back together, even

603
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,440
the rail was off because he seracoated everything. Because you know,

604
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:22,759
it's a stainless barrel. We screwed the suppressor on it.

605
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,960
I could tell right away the suppressor fit on, and

606
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,000
he just his work is just magnificent. It just fits

607
00:28:28,039 --> 00:28:30,799
like two panes of glass coming together. We went out.

608
00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,359
I shot five rounds. I shot my first one. I

609
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,720
made one movement. I shot four more and it was

610
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,319
probably three quarters of an inch. Okay, but you could

611
00:28:41,319 --> 00:28:44,279
see every single ball at all. And I said, OKAYKJ,

612
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,359
I shot five. I'm satisfied. You know, I'm figuring it's

613
00:28:47,359 --> 00:28:50,079
either going to settle in or it's whatever. It's good enough,

614
00:28:50,119 --> 00:28:52,839
it's way better. So I give kJ a MAGA five.

615
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,680
kJ sits down and shoots.

616
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,799
Speaker 3: And we're talking the whole time like it's not like

617
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,119
it's real serious.

618
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 1: We're just say wow or anything like that. He just

619
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,640
comes off the gun. He's down here and he comes

620
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:08,319
off the gun. He says, it's maybe the one time

621
00:29:08,359 --> 00:29:12,319
I outshot you. And he looks at me, said, I said, well, hell,

622
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,480
let's go down range. When we went down range, that's

623
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,920
what we saw. And needless to say, that's ten rounds

624
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,160
through a brand new barrel that just got fitted within

625
00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:25,480
five days. Yeah, Sarah coated put back together and damn,

626
00:29:25,519 --> 00:29:28,680
I am excited to go shoot this match because I

627
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,359
was defeated. Because when you shoot a gun that doesn't

628
00:29:31,359 --> 00:29:33,240
do what it can do, and you know you're a

629
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,559
good shooter, and I know there's good shooters out there,

630
00:29:36,759 --> 00:29:39,920
you can get defeated and you start thinking, well, you know,

631
00:29:40,119 --> 00:29:42,279
is it is it me? Is it the AMMO? Is

632
00:29:42,279 --> 00:29:42,839
it the gun?

633
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 3: Is it me?

634
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: It's the bipod? And then and then what I'll do

635
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,960
is I'll start dry firing. I'm like, Okay, it looks

636
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,839
like I can press the trigger right and mister site

637
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:53,519
stay there right? And what's wrong with me?

638
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:55,039
Speaker 3: That's what it is.

639
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: It messes with you.

640
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: It's it's you think, what is wrong with me?

641
00:29:58,519 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden you start not having

642
00:30:00,759 --> 00:30:04,279
the same confidence in your own equipment, like in your

643
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,559
own gear and in other gear like that you normally

644
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:08,440
shoot really well.

645
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: Like when I used to carry one handgun all the time,

646
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,720
when I was just a one gun guy man, I

647
00:30:13,839 --> 00:30:16,279
was good with it and I was there was nothing

648
00:30:16,319 --> 00:30:19,440
I wouldn't try to do with it. Now I shoot

649
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:21,680
so many guns, and I don't shoot my gun that

650
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,960
I carry so much anymore. And I don't I don't

651
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,720
feel like I'm the headshot king anymore. I feel more

652
00:30:28,759 --> 00:30:30,920
like a shooting minute of man anymore, because it's like

653
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,000
I know I can hit that. I don't remember what

654
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,200
exactly I see or feel when I shoot this gun.

655
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, hey, here's this gun. It's not my gun,

656
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,359
It's just it's one of the guns we're shooting this week, or.

657
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, shoot it today.

658
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,079
Speaker 2: You know that Silencer Central makes it easy to buy silencers,

659
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:52,839
but they also have their whole line of banished suppressors,

660
00:30:52,839 --> 00:30:56,400
and the newest one is the Banish Speed k TI

661
00:30:56,799 --> 00:31:01,640
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662
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,279
Speaker 1: This is a really cool ultra.

663
00:31:04,079 --> 00:31:09,440
Speaker 2: Compact two two, three, five, five six dedicated silencer. Weighs

664
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,880
only eight point six ounces, it's four inches long, and

665
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,480
it has controlled flow technology. We have used this on

666
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:20,079
the range. We've been impressed at how light it is,

667
00:31:20,279 --> 00:31:22,759
doesn't change the weight and balance of the gun, and

668
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,200
also still very quiet. The Banish Speed k TI from

669
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,599
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670
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,079
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671
00:31:33,119 --> 00:31:35,920
carry and one that's easy to shoot. Small and light

672
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,160
weight at only nine point eight ounces, but plenty of

673
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,359
three eighty auto with ten and twelve round magazines. See

674
00:31:42,359 --> 00:31:46,640
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675
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 3: So I guess I guess my question would be, and

676
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,759
we were kind of talking about this off air, is

677
00:31:52,119 --> 00:31:54,799
if you out shoot someone with their own gun, is

678
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:56,000
that gun now yours?

679
00:31:56,079 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure that's the rule.

680
00:31:57,599 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's now your gun because I will, Tay, I

681
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,160
will take this gun all day long.

682
00:32:01,359 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: And I've not kJ get excited about anything that I had.

683
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,440
This is the first time Kj's like, wow, man, that

684
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:08,519
is really sweet.

685
00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:09,319
Speaker 3: He's got something.

686
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 4: And I mean it's not it's not only because Todd,

687
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,640
you know, put his mark on it and put his

688
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,119
stamp on it. It's because the story like of having

689
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,599
like Chris built this gun originally, like did everything to it,

690
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:26,759
betted it, and he got a chance to like work

691
00:32:26,799 --> 00:32:31,400
through issues in a different manner in which he normally does. Usually,

692
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,720
you know, you get a custom gun, you're just picking

693
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,319
out parts and you you trust that your gunsmith is

694
00:32:36,359 --> 00:32:36,880
good enough.

695
00:32:37,319 --> 00:32:39,599
Speaker 3: But like Chris had a hand in this, and I

696
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,480
think that's what's so special about it.

697
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,079
Speaker 2: So Todd, we kept mentioning that we may have said

698
00:32:44,079 --> 00:32:47,440
at the beginning. But Todd Maniacal Firearms. He's in Covington, Louisiana.

699
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:51,319
He's kind of been become our go to gunsmith guy

700
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:55,240
because he's local to us. He does fantastic work. We

701
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,640
featured him on Billbox.

702
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,599
Speaker 1: He does rifle build people all over the country. Oh yeah, Yeah,

703
00:33:00,839 --> 00:33:03,680
that box has really opened them up. He's got stuff

704
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:07,000
coming in constantly, and the guys are fanatics. When they

705
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,759
send they get them back. He's telling you, they get

706
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:12,400
their gun back and they're like, oh my god, this

707
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,559
thing is so amazing. I'm going to send you this next. Yeah.

708
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,839
They end up NonStop.

709
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,839
Speaker 3: They end up ordering more, which is it's incredition.

710
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,960
Speaker 2: It's like what we're talking about with this gun, it's special.

711
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:29,480
It's unique when he does that. When you guys what

712
00:33:29,519 --> 00:33:31,640
I mean, heck, even somebody building their own gun at

713
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,799
their their bench at their house. Yeah, it's not an

714
00:33:34,799 --> 00:33:37,960
off the rack thing. You've you've kind of selected one

715
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:40,160
that you want to be and you know it's one

716
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,559
of one. There's no other gun like that out there, but.

717
00:33:44,359 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: You want you want that like custom experience, so you

718
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,000
you believe you can have that accuracy and if you're

719
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:53,839
putting it together yourself. It's going to be a lot

720
00:33:53,839 --> 00:33:54,559
more difficult.

721
00:33:54,759 --> 00:33:55,039
Speaker 1: True.

722
00:33:55,119 --> 00:33:57,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it just is like you wouldn't have

723
00:33:57,799 --> 00:34:00,920
been able to switch all that over without No.

724
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:03,559
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't. I can't fit a barrel. But

725
00:34:03,599 --> 00:34:05,640
I can tell you this the one if you want

726
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,400
to know what the my favorite thing on this gun

727
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,199
is my very most favorite part of this entire gun.

728
00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:19,559
Speaker 3: Trigger or magazine, catch the action because it is a

729
00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:24,599
fifteen to eighteen year old Remington seven hundred special purpose

730
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:28,239
rifle off the shelf that I bought.

731
00:34:28,039 --> 00:34:30,840
Speaker 1: And is the one part of this gun that is

732
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,679
still original and it shoots like an amazing house of fire.

733
00:34:35,119 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 4: Well, I guess, I mean, I guess that goes to

734
00:34:37,079 --> 00:34:40,239
show because you look at all like there are a

735
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:46,159
number of custom action guys out there, companies out there

736
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,519
that are I mean, you're paying fourteen to sixteen hundred

737
00:34:49,519 --> 00:34:53,639
dollars just for the action, like you're talking about like

738
00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:58,840
a Defiance TI or an Impact. You know, you're looking

739
00:34:58,880 --> 00:34:59,920
at some that whole like.

740
00:35:00,119 --> 00:35:01,840
Speaker 1: Might have been five hundred bucks loan peak.

741
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 3: I mean no, like yeah, And that's what's cool about

742
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,400
it is, I mean you can get stuff like this.

743
00:35:07,559 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: I mean people have these all over the world in

744
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,159
their houses, in their closets.

745
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,280
Speaker 4: Is that the would you consider the Ruingtan seven hundred

746
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,960
action the most I mean prolific Oh yeah action boltgun

747
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,079
action out there?

748
00:35:20,159 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so.

749
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 3: Now it's pattern.

750
00:35:22,199 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 2: What's funny is Remington Firearms is still in existence, but

751
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:32,000
it's it's it's very small from what it used to be.

752
00:35:32,079 --> 00:35:35,159
It's they're not cranking out a very high number of guns.

753
00:35:35,679 --> 00:35:40,199
But what's funny is it's it's there's two reasons why

754
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:41,960
you have all these companies like, oh, we have a

755
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,800
Remington seven hundred pattern action or whatever you prefit barrels

756
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,960
and stuff like that. One is because there's a ton

757
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,159
of aftermarket options for you, right, triggers in it, one

758
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,280
bottom metal, all the all the other stuff.

759
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:54,559
Speaker 1: Right.

760
00:35:55,000 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 2: But if it wasn't accurate, they wouldn't doing it.

761
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,599
Speaker 1: It is, that's right, it works. And we just shot

762
00:36:03,679 --> 00:36:05,840
Joels today. Joel's going to shoot a match with us.

763
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,039
He's going to shoot the same match now, Joel. It

764
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:12,039
was unbuild Box. Yeah, he became our friend. So he's

765
00:36:12,039 --> 00:36:14,079
still got the gun we built him for Buildbox. It

766
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,639
is the exact same rifle that this was, which is

767
00:36:16,639 --> 00:36:21,159
a seven hundred special purpose rifle three oh eight, and

768
00:36:21,199 --> 00:36:24,360
we shot it yesterday. Yeah, he was out here yesterday

769
00:36:24,639 --> 00:36:28,079
and we were literally shooting dimes with FED match FED

770
00:36:28,119 --> 00:36:31,199
gold medal match won sixty eighth. Yeah, and that's a

771
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:31,920
good point too.

772
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:33,519
Speaker 2: And it kind of it's kind of like the build

773
00:36:33,559 --> 00:36:37,880
box thing. So you said there's probably hundreds and thousands,

774
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,039
not hundreds of thousands, but hundreds or thousands whatever of

775
00:36:41,119 --> 00:36:44,480
these types of guns, these special purpose guns, which really

776
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:47,239
they were twenty inch sparrel guns.

777
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:47,519
Speaker 1: Three oh eight.

778
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:53,039
Speaker 2: They were the the l E sniper. Yes, designated over

779
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:57,320
mold stock, Yes, whole exactly. Then has a version, right,

780
00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,599
I have that. Remington has a version. They're cool, they're great. However,

781
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,280
like a lot of people, if you probably if you

782
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,719
have that, you're probably a gun nerd like us. Yeah,

783
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,880
and it may be just sitting in the safe because

784
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:09,639
it's like I bought that.

785
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,679
Speaker 1: It was cool fifteen years ago. Yeah, because it was

786
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:12,800
in every police movie.

787
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,159
Speaker 2: But you show yeah, they're making you know, eighty seven

788
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,679
hard head shots. But you could give it new life

789
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,920
because that gun is not suited for what's popular right now.

790
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,239
As far as PRS NURL matchress. When you're shooting out

791
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,840
to how far?

792
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 3: I mean you're going out to nine.

793
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, so it's not really suited for that. So you

794
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:36,280
could give it new life by doing a barrel swap.

795
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:37,599
Speaker 3: You really could.

796
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: And look at this isn't a chassis, but chassis are soxy.

797
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,199
This is so retro.

798
00:37:42,559 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 4: So I do want we have not provided the listeners

799
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,760
and the people who are watching this. If you're not watching,

800
00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,760
I'm sorry you don't get to see this beautiful gun.

801
00:37:52,119 --> 00:37:55,920
But Chris, like, walk us through what's on this gun?

802
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:59,280
I mean, like, because it's not just a factory it's

803
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,800
a factory ring since had an interaction, but the stock

804
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,480
and you do a pressor what did you do to I.

805
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 1: Originally started with the stock. I bought him at Millana

806
00:38:07,079 --> 00:38:10,039
four and it took forever to get it, and it

807
00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,280
was like five hundred bucks back then. And it is

808
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:16,159
molded it's called gap camo. This camo is actually molded

809
00:38:16,199 --> 00:38:18,119
in so if you scratch it or ding it, it's

810
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:20,320
going to go as deep as the color all the

811
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,559
way to the center, which is cool. So then of

812
00:38:23,599 --> 00:38:26,079
course I did a bolt handle on it. I bolt

813
00:38:26,119 --> 00:38:28,239
that bolt knob off of brown els, and I thought

814
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,000
I can do this. So I sat in my garage

815
00:38:30,039 --> 00:38:32,480
with a bench grinder and I grounded down and kept

816
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,400
measuring because it said you have to have this measurement

817
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,000
for this thread. So I did it and then I

818
00:38:36,039 --> 00:38:39,239
threaded it and I screwed it on. Todd says, it's crooked,

819
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,199
but you know what, I did it and I love it.

820
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:46,679
It's got. So that's a Badger bolt. Now the Badger

821
00:38:48,079 --> 00:38:51,079
twenty ma rail on top, which is all steel, which

822
00:38:51,119 --> 00:38:53,360
is the best way to go, go all steel bolted

823
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:57,159
on lock tight it down. From there we go down

824
00:38:57,199 --> 00:38:59,239
to the bottom metal on the bottom. It was a

825
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,920
hinge them, so it had a trapdoor on the bottom

826
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,559
where you had to dump the rounds out from there

827
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,800
and the need to shoot matches with that, and it

828
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,320
was difficult because you have to unload and before you move. Yeah,

829
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,840
so I would just dump it and if I caught

830
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,760
them all I caught him throw them in my bag.

831
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,760
But then I put on bottom metal. So I had

832
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,000
betted the stock and everything, and then later I added

833
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:22,199
the bottom metal and I did it with the current

834
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:24,719
betting and I still managed to get it in perfectly.

835
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:28,920
Whose bottom metals has that, Hawkins? This is Accuracy. Well

836
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:31,800
it was from Brownel's, but it's it came with the

837
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,719
Accuracy International magazine. So I don't know whose that is.

838
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,480
I wish I knew. I don't know the name brand,

839
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:44,679
but that was a gift from uh from uh roy Hill.

840
00:39:45,519 --> 00:39:47,840
Royhill sent me that I and I did that while

841
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:49,639
I had cancer. I just took my time and it

842
00:39:49,679 --> 00:39:52,719
came out perfect, said nothing but time. So then we

843
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,639
put the new thing. The newest hotness is this area

844
00:39:55,639 --> 00:39:57,760
of four nineteen rail that goes all the way across,

845
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,760
which takes that old McMillan chat see and puts an

846
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,800
archie rail the full length. So now I have all that,

847
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,519
I can get my bipod way out on the end,

848
00:40:05,559 --> 00:40:08,719
which is an MDT on top, I've got that Loophold

849
00:40:09,079 --> 00:40:09,519
R six.

850
00:40:09,679 --> 00:40:12,159
Speaker 2: This is a great for a what is this a

851
00:40:12,199 --> 00:40:15,320
three to eighteen eighteen and that's a pretty short scope.

852
00:40:15,559 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: I got that when I used to shoot for FN

853
00:40:17,679 --> 00:40:20,440
because Loopholds was one of our sponsors, so I was

854
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,119
on my FN rifle for a lot a lot of years. Great,

855
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,400
it's been all over the country, it's had some good

856
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,800
times and on the end we've we've got it with

857
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:32,760
the old silencer central back country. That's my favorite Randard.

858
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,599
It's so quiet and it keeps the gun short and manageable.

859
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,760
And I didn't have any promise stand on target today,

860
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:39,559
did you? Oh no, pretty good, not at all. Well,

861
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,599
look at the group. Yeah, yeah, very cool.

862
00:40:43,679 --> 00:40:45,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know, just thought we'd have you guys on

863
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,599
talk about chasing accuracy and help.

864
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: Hopefully this is helpful. Don't get to feel.

865
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:53,920
Speaker 2: Like if you're like, it's also like, wait a minute,

866
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,719
maybe this gun that I've been shooting is shooting three

867
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,159
inch groups. It could the gun could be you could be,

868
00:41:02,679 --> 00:41:05,559
but it could be better, and it could be better, right,

869
00:41:05,559 --> 00:41:08,079
it could be better. Maybe you can't, Yeah, but you

870
00:41:08,119 --> 00:41:09,119
can also call it.

871
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I guess my question is is when is

872
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,159
when do you call it quits?

873
00:41:16,679 --> 00:41:17,440
Speaker 3: At what point?

874
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,559
Speaker 1: At what point? That depends on your personality.

875
00:41:21,159 --> 00:41:24,159
Speaker 2: I'm more of like a that's good enough, let's just

876
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:30,280
leave it there. You know, excel spreadsheets of their training.

877
00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:32,280
Are the ones who are going to be like, maybe

878
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,400
I can get a little bit more. I mean there

879
00:41:35,079 --> 00:41:37,760
there kind of is at this point, there's there's a

880
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:42,079
limit to what you can do. I mean a still,

881
00:41:42,159 --> 00:41:43,360
people will spout all.

882
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,599
Speaker 1: Kinds of nonsense online.

883
00:41:44,639 --> 00:41:48,119
Speaker 2: But I mean a half inch gun is really phenomenal,

884
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,320
and if you have something doing less than that, you

885
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,079
probably should just say okay.

886
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 4: Good, so good with what we're doing today in firearms

887
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,519
and what you're seeing come out right now is a

888
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:05,920
half inch? Should that be considered the new standard?

889
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,039
Speaker 2: I mean that just depends online if we don't.

890
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: Yeah for MOUs you know we've seen that come from

891
00:42:14,519 --> 00:42:16,840
lesser known Yeah, I'm Ruger at Ruger Ranch that I

892
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,920
shot with the two twenty three. Yeah, it's just shot.

893
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: There's lots of variables to say, you know that it'll do.

894
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,639
Speaker 1: That, But it didn't shoot a dime with other ammo

895
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:26,440
and then I tried a different AMMO and then all

896
00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:29,599
of a sudden it was like a dime. Yeah, stacking them.

897
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,320
So but see, you got to know that you can

898
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,159
do it first. You got to know what you're capable of.

899
00:42:35,199 --> 00:42:36,960
So if you have if you have a friend, if

900
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,440
you have somebody that has guns like this, like me

901
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,880
and kJ we have we have luxuries like this. This

902
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,360
is great. But if you have a friend, you go

903
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,320
out and you shoot that gun.

904
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,599
Speaker 5: If they shoot it really really well, and you don't

905
00:42:47,639 --> 00:42:50,199
shoot it really really well, like to them figure out

906
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:52,800
how to shoot it really really well, because once you

907
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,280
can start doing that, then you can say, man, I

908
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,119
can do this. So the next gun you pick up,

909
00:42:57,159 --> 00:42:59,480
you're like, you know, I'm doing everything right here, or

910
00:42:59,519 --> 00:43:01,559
maybe you'll up one in that chots really really well

911
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:03,159
and you'd be like, Wow, I didn't think I could

912
00:43:03,199 --> 00:43:03,440
do that.

913
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: But I mean, I think as far as like, should

914
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:10,320
we expect half accuracy if it's a if it's a

915
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,519
long range precision gun that costs three to five thousand dollars, Yeah, probably,

916
00:43:14,519 --> 00:43:17,280
so yeah, something like that. If it's a six hundred

917
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,199
dollars hunting gun, that doesn't seem fair to me.

918
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: Onea would be is great, Yeah.

919
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: Because I mean we're kind of joking about the minute

920
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,320
of deer thing, but like, seriously, if it's a one

921
00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:30,639
inch gun at one hundred, it really is a minute

922
00:43:30,639 --> 00:43:31,559
of deer thing.

923
00:43:31,679 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, if it's it's so inch gun at one hundred,

924
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:35,440
it's a minute of deer. If it's a one inch

925
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,280
gun at one hundred, even even at sondred yards.

926
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:42,280
Speaker 4: So I do we did gloss over something with this

927
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:44,280
gun in the testing phase of it, and I know

928
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,760
we're running out of time. Probably, but we I sent

929
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:50,920
you a text message and I thought you were going

930
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:52,440
to bring it up, and you didn't, and I just

931
00:43:52,519 --> 00:43:55,760
now thought of it. We would shoot when the other

932
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,360
barrel was on here. We would shoot, you know, five

933
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:02,800
shot groups, and they were okay, but then it got

934
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,639
wild after that, like so it looked like it shot

935
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:07,599
really well.

936
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,679
Speaker 1: But then you go, that's right, you said seven, eight, Yeah,

937
00:44:11,679 --> 00:44:14,599
first three to five shots, you're like, right, okay.

938
00:44:14,519 --> 00:44:18,679
Speaker 4: And that was great. So and then yes, when Todd

939
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,960
sent you the message will this work? And it was

940
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,760
a great group. My first thing was what were the

941
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:24,559
next five shots?

942
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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what were the next five shots? Like? And so

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today we did shoot tenant consecutively and last time, I

945
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mean the five wasn't anywhere close to this, No, I

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mean they were. They were an inch and a half

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too anyways. But that's why that's when it started slinging them.

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Speaker 4: That's when it's a cautionary tale of like, are you

949
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the three shot group guy? When you're going out hunting

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and going, oh, yeah, that's good enough. Well what what

951
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happens after that?

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Speaker 2: It's good enough for you? If you're going to take

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this to a march, You guys are going to shoot

954
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what und.

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Speaker 4: One hundred rounds for sure? So well, hopefully not one

956
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hundred rounds, Like I want to be a lot less

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than a hundred round because I'm shooting a hundred rounds,

958
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I'm I'm placing away at the bottom.

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Speaker 1: Is it less than a hundred round? Match?

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Speaker 3: It's a hunt?

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Speaker 1: Like, you take one hundred rounds, you'll be fine. Okay,

962
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So because I bought four hundred and it was expensive.

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Speaker 2: Don't don't think you're saving money if you're getting into

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this game though.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, that's a whole another.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm fine, but matchamo, Oh, don't tell me about

967
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handloading either. Why don't you handload? Yeah, it's called time.

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It's called hornity one forties and they work eld X

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and there's other ones that shoot just as good.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's a whole thing.

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Speaker 1: There's so many rabbit holes. All right.

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Speaker 2: Well, that's it for chasing accuracy. Go uh go find

973
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that old gun and you're safe, and maybe you bring

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in a little new life, put a new barrel on it.

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Hopefully you don't have to put two new barrels on it,

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like Chris

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Speaker 1: Let's see you next time on gun dog Days,