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<v Speaker 1>All right, one of our all time favorite guests is

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<v Speaker 1>former Dallas Cowboy Travis Frederick. We're gonna do a long

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<v Speaker 1>form sit down interview with him tomorrow night on our

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<v Speaker 1>YouTube channel. It's gonna start at eight pm. To go

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<v Speaker 1>to YouTube dot com slash Ben and Skin be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to hit subscribe. We're gonna talk to Travis Fredick for

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<v Speaker 1>about an hour. It's gonna be a lot of fun.

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<v Speaker 1>And don't forget he's the guy who's gonna make the

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<v Speaker 1>decision on who the Cowboys picking the second and third

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<v Speaker 1>round this year. Yeah, it's up this totally his decision.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure we'll talk to him about that. We've got

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<v Speaker 1>a gen Z survey coming up next that's very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now it's time for this.

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<v Speaker 2>Third time. Today we go back to the well of

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<v Speaker 2>the NBA on TNT.

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<v Speaker 3>Hell.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because again a huge episode last night.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm first going to play for you the clip that

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<v Speaker 4>was going viral, and then I'm gonna play you added context.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, here's the clip that was going viral last night.

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<v Speaker 4>In DFW, Charles Barkley addressing MAVs GM Nico Harrison after

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<v Speaker 4>yesterday's press conference.

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<v Speaker 5>Listen, man, I consider you a friend of mine, Nico Harrison,

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<v Speaker 5>I consider you a friend of mine. I wish you

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<v Speaker 5>nothing but the best. I thought you did a good

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<v Speaker 5>job last year with the MAVs, and obviously whatever happened

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<v Speaker 5>this year didn't work out. Man, don't do no more

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<v Speaker 5>press conferences. I don't even know what you're doing. I

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<v Speaker 5>really don't like. I got sympathy and love for you,

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<v Speaker 5>but I have zero idea what you're trying to do.

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<v Speaker 5>This war is over, brother, you you go to take

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<v Speaker 5>you take in the l I hope you keep your job.

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<v Speaker 5>I hope that team get healthy. But man, don't do

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<v Speaker 5>any more interviews.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you got that.

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<v Speaker 6>That's pretty real because you could tell Charles is an

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<v Speaker 6>anti Nico. He's not fire Nico, He's just an observer

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<v Speaker 6>looking at this from afar, going this has got to stop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, man, I don't see the upside here. Man. I

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<v Speaker 3>saw a list that the players vote thing. Did you

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<v Speaker 3>see that I did? Yeah? For the Athletics.

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<v Speaker 2>Not good.

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<v Speaker 1>The Mavericks were a bottom five team in the league

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<v Speaker 1>based on what players perceptions of the organizations are.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, that was in the Athletic The Athletic Anonymous players poll.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, small sample size.

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<v Speaker 3>They didn't you know they had like one hundred and

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<v Speaker 3>fifty players.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I guess if you look a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at the teams that are in that

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<v Speaker 1>bottom five, you're like, wait, what just like the bulls,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a tough It's it's a this is the this

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<v Speaker 1>is the biggest one season self inflicted free fall I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever witnessed in professional sports. It's I think that's probably accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're in the finals. You're in the finals, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're in the finals led by a twenty five year

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<v Speaker 1>old global icon.

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<v Speaker 3>You're like, man, we made it to the finals.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to be going to the finals pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>for the next decade.

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<v Speaker 3>And now this it's that.

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<v Speaker 6>The other thing working against them is if it's like

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<v Speaker 6>you're sitting there saying, and Charles just said it, I

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<v Speaker 6>hope y'all get healthy. The problem is that some of

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<v Speaker 6>your best players have a track record of not staying

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<v Speaker 6>healthy and your most important play Okay, only with an ACL.

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<v Speaker 2>But Charles said that he considers him a friend in

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<v Speaker 2>speaking to him, sincerely, have you all seen the added

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<v Speaker 2>context of this?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, I'm.

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<v Speaker 4>Gonna tell you that I do not know if this

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<v Speaker 4>was before or after Charles did the one shot at

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<v Speaker 4>the camera to address him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know if it was before or after this.

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<v Speaker 4>First you're gonna hear Shaq, who's a little off, I think,

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<v Speaker 4>then you're gonna hear Charles.

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<v Speaker 7>His problem is he wants to be liked when he

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<v Speaker 7>should just be focusing on doing his job.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually don't think Nico cares if he's liked or not.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't either. I promise who he didn't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, so Shack's Shack's well, but Shack's always kind of wrong.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I made a decision where it was his decisions.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, now time out.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what he's saying there and in essence is right,

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<v Speaker 1>and the reason why he's doing it somebody wants him

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<v Speaker 1>to be liked, or they at least want to serve

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<v Speaker 1>the fans. Yeah, they're not putting him out there for

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<v Speaker 1>his own health. They're making him go out there and

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna take bullets. Yeah, he's not doing it because

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<v Speaker 1>he wants everyone to like him. But he's trying to

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<v Speaker 1>be nice to everyone, to try to play nice with

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<v Speaker 1>the fans.

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<v Speaker 6>And he said in the press conference, he was like,

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<v Speaker 6>what we did last Tuesday. He didn't call it the disaster,

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<v Speaker 6>but he kind of said as much. Hey, it went poorly,

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<v Speaker 6>and that's why I'm back out here now.

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<v Speaker 7>The importance of Luca. But he just wanted to be nice.

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<v Speaker 7>He wanted to give the corporate answer. So my advice

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<v Speaker 7>to your brother is just do your job and to

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<v Speaker 7>just go up the flow. As long as the owner's

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<v Speaker 7>got your back, you should be fine, and.

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<v Speaker 5>The owner should have his back, because it clared the

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<v Speaker 5>owners threw him unto the bus. I don't know Nico

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<v Speaker 5>that well.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, wait, hold on, Well he's not saying they're best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was making it clear he wasn't just one

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<v Speaker 1>of the other people who's coming after him. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>but dude, he was out there. That is ownership making

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<v Speaker 1>him do that. Yeah, but Charles did.

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<v Speaker 5>This man, I consider you a friend of mine, Nico Harrison, Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, there's no one that I don't know that well

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<v Speaker 4>that I consider a friend of.

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<v Speaker 1>Mine, really, because I do person I feel the same

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<v Speaker 1>way about him.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a friend of yours. Yeah, I have his number.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had his number since what two thousand, two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and six.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you guys are friends.

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<v Speaker 2>With Nico.

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<v Speaker 3>So I've had his I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I've had his number since two thousand and six

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<v Speaker 1>in my phone, but I don't know him that well.

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<v Speaker 3>But I consider him a friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Nico a friend, So yeah, it's like what, I totally

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<v Speaker 1>understand what he's coming from. But he's not saying we're

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<v Speaker 1>not best friends. I don't know his kids' names, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know his wife, I don't know any of that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But we're certainly friendly. But there's a million people like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know why what Barkley's saying.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, And and the other thing too, is like friend

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<v Speaker 6>can mean a lot of different things to a lot

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<v Speaker 6>of different people. Right, hey man, we have we have

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<v Speaker 6>a good relationship as acquaintances. Some people consider that a friend.

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<v Speaker 6>It doesn't mean like you know, you're gonna go to

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<v Speaker 6>the hospital when their child.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I like this show because I rarely ever

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<v Speaker 4>agree with anything that they say, but I still love

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<v Speaker 4>watching it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I love watching it.

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<v Speaker 4>Kenny though, is like Nico's been to my house, Like

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<v Speaker 4>Kenny comes in later, is like he's been to my house. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>And Kenny's like, it's you know you shot the jumper

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<v Speaker 4>yet to see if they goes in or not, Like

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<v Speaker 4>Kenny's got the balance take on it.

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<v Speaker 1>My last interaction with Nico was over basketball shoes, and

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<v Speaker 1>he was going to give me a pair of Kobe's.

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<v Speaker 1>So think about that. He knows Kobe that well, He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to give me a pair of Kobe's. And then

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<v Speaker 1>I saw him again. He goes, hey, I still got

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<v Speaker 1>those Kobe's for you. Yeah, and I had a friend

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<v Speaker 1>the other day I go, would you accept those Kobe's?

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<v Speaker 3>Now, what are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, I'm I'm I still consider Nico a friend in

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<v Speaker 6>the same way I did two months ago, exactly. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm not. If I don't agree with a person, you

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<v Speaker 6>have to you have to like do something different than

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<v Speaker 6>trade an athlete for me to like turn on you, right,

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<v Speaker 6>you know. But I get people that are like that

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<v Speaker 6>because we ask fans to be passionate.

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<v Speaker 3>I get that.

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<v Speaker 6>But I'm not going to turn on a person because

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<v Speaker 6>they made a sports decision I disagree.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I trade show Hey off my fantasy baseball team,

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna suddenly you are dead to me in

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<v Speaker 1>that friends, Yeah, okay, I won't do that.