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Speaker 1: And don't forget he's the guy who's gonna make the
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Speaker 1: round this year. Yeah, it's up this totally his decision.
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll talk to him about that. We've got
Speaker 1: a gen Z survey coming up next that's very interesting.
Speaker 1: But right now it's time for this.
Speaker 2: Third time. Today we go back to the well of
Speaker 2: the NBA on TNT.
Speaker 3: Hell.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because again a huge episode last night.
Speaker 4: I'm first going to play for you the clip that
Speaker 4: was going viral, and then I'm gonna play you added context.
Speaker 2: Okay, here's the clip that was going viral last night.
Speaker 4: In DFW, Charles Barkley addressing MAVs GM Nico Harrison after
Speaker 4: yesterday's press conference.
Speaker 5: Listen, man, I consider you a friend of mine, Nico Harrison,
Speaker 5: I consider you a friend of mine. I wish you
Speaker 5: nothing but the best. I thought you did a good
Speaker 5: job last year with the MAVs, and obviously whatever happened
Speaker 5: this year didn't work out. Man, don't do no more
Speaker 5: press conferences. I don't even know what you're doing. I
Speaker 5: really don't like. I got sympathy and love for you,
Speaker 5: but I have zero idea what you're trying to do.
Speaker 5: This war is over, brother, you you go to take
Speaker 5: you take in the l I hope you keep your job.
Speaker 5: I hope that team get healthy. But man, don't do
Speaker 5: any more interviews.
Speaker 2: Okay, so you got that.
Speaker 6: That's pretty real because you could tell Charles is an
Speaker 6: anti Nico. He's not fire Nico, He's just an observer
Speaker 6: looking at this from afar, going this has got to stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, I don't see the upside here. Man. I
Speaker 3: saw a list that the players vote thing. Did you
Speaker 3: see that I did? Yeah? For the Athletics.
Speaker 2: Not good.
Speaker 1: The Mavericks were a bottom five team in the league
Speaker 1: based on what players perceptions of the organizations are.
Speaker 4: Wait, that was in the Athletic The Athletic Anonymous players poll.
Speaker 2: Yes, small sample size.
Speaker 3: They didn't you know they had like one hundred and
Speaker 3: fifty players.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I guess if you look a lot.
Speaker 1: If you look at the teams that are in that
Speaker 1: bottom five, you're like, wait, what just like the bulls,
Speaker 1: that's a tough It's it's a this is the this
Speaker 1: is the biggest one season self inflicted free fall I've
Speaker 1: ever witnessed in professional sports. It's I think that's probably accurate.
Speaker 1: Because you're in the finals. You're in the finals, and
Speaker 1: you're in the finals led by a twenty five year
Speaker 1: old global icon.
Speaker 3: You're like, man, we made it to the finals.
Speaker 1: We're going to be going to the finals pretty much
Speaker 1: for the next decade.
Speaker 3: And now this it's that.
Speaker 6: The other thing working against them is if it's like
Speaker 6: you're sitting there saying, and Charles just said it, I
Speaker 6: hope y'all get healthy. The problem is that some of
Speaker 6: your best players have a track record of not staying
Speaker 6: healthy and your most important play Okay, only with an ACL.
Speaker 2: But Charles said that he considers him a friend in
Speaker 2: speaking to him, sincerely, have you all seen the added
Speaker 2: context of this?
Speaker 3: No, no, I'm.
Speaker 4: Gonna tell you that I do not know if this
Speaker 4: was before or after Charles did the one shot at
Speaker 4: the camera to address him.
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know if it was before or after this.
Speaker 4: First you're gonna hear Shaq, who's a little off, I think,
Speaker 4: then you're gonna hear Charles.
Speaker 7: His problem is he wants to be liked when he
Speaker 7: should just be focusing on doing his job.
Speaker 2: I actually don't think Nico cares if he's liked or not.
Speaker 3: I don't either. I promise who he didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so Shack's Shack's well, but Shack's always kind of wrong.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I made a decision where it was his decisions.
Speaker 3: Okay, now time out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what he's saying there and in essence is right,
Speaker 1: and the reason why he's doing it somebody wants him
Speaker 1: to be liked, or they at least want to serve
Speaker 1: the fans. Yeah, they're not putting him out there for
Speaker 1: his own health. They're making him go out there and
Speaker 1: he's gonna take bullets. Yeah, he's not doing it because
Speaker 1: he wants everyone to like him. But he's trying to
Speaker 1: be nice to everyone, to try to play nice with
Speaker 1: the fans.
Speaker 6: And he said in the press conference, he was like,
Speaker 6: what we did last Tuesday. He didn't call it the disaster,
Speaker 6: but he kind of said as much. Hey, it went poorly,
Speaker 6: and that's why I'm back out here now.
Speaker 7: The importance of Luca. But he just wanted to be nice.
Speaker 7: He wanted to give the corporate answer. So my advice
Speaker 7: to your brother is just do your job and to
Speaker 7: just go up the flow. As long as the owner's
Speaker 7: got your back, you should be fine, and.
Speaker 5: The owner should have his back, because it clared the
Speaker 5: owners threw him unto the bus. I don't know Nico
Speaker 5: that well.
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, hold on, Well he's not saying they're best friends,
Speaker 1: but he was making it clear he wasn't just one
Speaker 1: of the other people who's coming after him. I don't know,
Speaker 1: but dude, he was out there. That is ownership making
Speaker 1: him do that. Yeah, but Charles did.
Speaker 5: This man, I consider you a friend of mine, Nico Harrison, Right.
Speaker 4: Dude, there's no one that I don't know that well
Speaker 4: that I consider a friend of.
Speaker 1: Mine, really, because I do person I feel the same
Speaker 1: way about him.
Speaker 3: He's a friend of yours. Yeah, I have his number.
Speaker 1: I've had his number since what two thousand, two thousand
Speaker 1: and six.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you guys are friends.
Speaker 2: With Nico.
Speaker 3: So I've had his I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've had his number since two thousand and six
Speaker 1: in my phone, but I don't know him that well.
Speaker 3: But I consider him a friend.
Speaker 1: Nico a friend, So yeah, it's like what, I totally
Speaker 1: understand what he's coming from. But he's not saying we're
Speaker 1: not best friends. I don't know his kids' names, I
Speaker 1: don't know his wife, I don't know any of that stuff.
Speaker 1: But we're certainly friendly. But there's a million people like that.
Speaker 1: I know why what Barkley's saying.
Speaker 6: Yeah, And and the other thing too, is like friend
Speaker 6: can mean a lot of different things to a lot
Speaker 6: of different people. Right, hey man, we have we have
Speaker 6: a good relationship as acquaintances. Some people consider that a friend.
Speaker 6: It doesn't mean like you know, you're gonna go to
Speaker 6: the hospital when their child.
Speaker 4: I think I like this show because I rarely ever
Speaker 4: agree with anything that they say, but I still love
Speaker 4: watching it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love watching it.
Speaker 4: Kenny though, is like Nico's been to my house, Like
Speaker 4: Kenny comes in later, is like he's been to my house. Yeah,
Speaker 4: And Kenny's like, it's you know you shot the jumper
Speaker 4: yet to see if they goes in or not, Like
Speaker 4: Kenny's got the balance take on it.
Speaker 1: My last interaction with Nico was over basketball shoes, and
Speaker 1: he was going to give me a pair of Kobe's.
Speaker 1: So think about that. He knows Kobe that well, He's
Speaker 1: going to give me a pair of Kobe's. And then
Speaker 1: I saw him again. He goes, hey, I still got
Speaker 1: those Kobe's for you. Yeah, and I had a friend
Speaker 1: the other day I go, would you accept those Kobe's?
Speaker 3: Now, what are you talking about?
Speaker 6: Yes, I'm I'm I still consider Nico a friend in
Speaker 6: the same way I did two months ago, exactly. I mean,
Speaker 6: I'm not. If I don't agree with a person, you
Speaker 6: have to you have to like do something different than
Speaker 6: trade an athlete for me to like turn on you, right,
Speaker 6: you know. But I get people that are like that
Speaker 6: because we ask fans to be passionate.
Speaker 3: I get that.
Speaker 6: But I'm not going to turn on a person because
Speaker 6: they made a sports decision I disagree.
Speaker 1: So if I trade show Hey off my fantasy baseball team,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna suddenly you are dead to me in
Speaker 1: that friends, Yeah, okay, I won't do that.